Nelson Mandela Death: Excerpts of His Rivonia Speech

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These excerpts are from one of the many defining speeches that Nelson Mandela gave, a statement from the Rivonia trial where he was found guilty of sabotage. In it he gives a clear answer to accusations of communism, and the reasons the ANC chose sabotage over other forms of active resistance. After he was sentenced he would not be heard again for decades.

I have always regarded myself, in the first place, as an African patriot. I was born in Mthatha, 46 years ago. My guardian was my cousin, who was the acting paramount chief of Tembuland, and I am related both to the present paramount chief of Tembuland, Sabata Dalindyebo, and to Kaizer Matanzima, the chief minister of the Transkei.

As I understand the state case… the suggestion is that Umkhonto was the inspiration of the Communist Party which sought by playing upon imaginary grievances to enrol the African people into an army which ostensibly was to fight for African freedom, but in reality was fighting for a communist state.

Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact the suggestion is preposterous. Umkhonto was formed by Africans to further their struggle for freedom in their own land.

Our fight is against real, and not imaginary, hardships or, to use the language of the state prosecutor, so-called hardships. Basically, we fight against two features which are the hallmarks of African life in South Africa and which are entrenched by legislation which we seek to have repealed.

These features are poverty and lack of human dignity, and we do not need communists or so-called agitators to teach us about these things.

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1 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:36:19am

Meanwhile in Kiev….
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2 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:41:18am

Doesn’t sound like he was a communist, wingnuts.

3 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:44:30am

re: #2 b_sharp

Doesn’t sound like he was a communist, wingnuts.

Yeah. Mandela was a far more complex man then these knuckleheads try to portray him as.

4 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:46:54am
5 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:48:10am

And if you read the timeline for the various apartheid acts you see things go from bad to worse for minority rights between 1948 and 1960. Including “anti-communist” laws that are so loose in what defines a “communist” that essentially anyone protesting against the apartheid laws would be guilty under these statutes.

And the ANC doesn’t really start looking towards militancy until after the Sharpesville massacre.

6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:49:19am

oh, no, he didn’t go there…
Yes, he did…

7 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:51:10am

Oppressed People are Oppressed People.

When push comes to shove, they will shove back.

8 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:51:35am

Bob Estes: clever in Abilene.

9 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:53:09am


HA!

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:55:57am

Bob Estes says he didn’t know anything about Mandela’s history before yesterday - so he heads over to the John Birch Society to get educated.

11 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:56:37am

re: #3 Gus

Yeah. Mandela was a far more complex man then these knuckleheads try to portray him as.

Gee, you mean people are complicated and often require nuance to understand?

Inconceivable!

12 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:57:00am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Bob Estes says he didn’t know anything about Mandela’s history before yesterday - so he heads over to the John Birch Society to get educated.

Yeah. Makes you wonder how he ended up there now. //

13 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:57:28am

OT must see the snow bowl game between Detroit & Philly.

Holy shitto.

14 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:57:54am
15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:58:21am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Bob Estes says he didn’t know anything about Mandela’s history before yesterday - so he heads over to the John Birch Society to get educated.

But first he went to Wiki, which is where he found lots of his links…

16 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:58:42am

New American is a John Birch Society website? Why, well, how the hell did that happen? //

17 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:58:42am

re: #13 Stanley Sea

OT must see the snow bowl game between Detroit & Philly.

Holy shitto.

I’m watching that now. I didn’t know the NFL was planning on broadcasting from Hoth.

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:58:59am

re: #13 Stanley Sea

OT must see the snow bowl game between Detroit & Philly.

Holy shitto.

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 10:59:31am
20 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:00:19am

re: #17 Lidane

I’m watching that now. I didn’t know the NFL was planning on broadcasting from Hoth.

Football the way it was meant to be played (occasionally). Almost makes one hope for a nor’easter blizzard for NYC right around Superbowl Sunday.

21 blueraven  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:00:25am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

16th Street Baptist Church: Birmingham, Alabama 1963

22 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:00:32am

re: #17 Lidane

I’m watching that now. I didn’t know the NFL was planning on broadcasting from Hoth.

Hopefully the Eagles defense does better that the Rebels ended up doing.

/Stay on Target!

23 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:00:43am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

But first he went to Wiki, which is where he found lots of his links…

He also ended up at Frontpage.

24 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:01:39am

WOW trailer for film.

deepsouthfilm.com website

Atlantic.com article on the film

25 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:03:17am

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

Hopefully the Eagles defense does better that the Rebels ended up doing.

/Stay on Target!

And we can verify that Megatron operates well in snowy conditions.

26 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:04:45am

shock factor

27 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:07:42am

Industry to D.C and reverse --revolving door

28 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:12:09am

BBL

29 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:12:13am

re: #26 FemNaziBitch

Shock factor, but effective.

30 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:13:02am
31 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:13:20am

re: #29 Lidane

Shock factor, but effective.

Yeah, reality bites—huh?

32 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:15:04am
34 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:17:16am
35 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:17:47am

Yeah, I’m still tired and can’t sleep, can’t do much of anything, but read and link and drive everyone nuts.

36 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:19:40am

re: #4 jaunte

THIS. SO MUCH.

It’s amazing how things like slavery and apartheid are supposed to be brushed aside, but the sacred history of the Confederate south and the complicated history of Mandela’s life are forever.

37 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:21:35am

re: #36 Lidane

THIS. SO MUCH.

It’s amazing how things like slavery and apartheid are supposed to be brushed aside, but the sacred history of the Confederate south and the complicated history of Mandela’s life are forever.

because misery is our lot decreed by god, human sinners that we are

38 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:25:06am

re: #33 FemNaziBitch

Nobody In Congress Dares To Close The Trillion Dollar Loophole That Apple, Google And Microsoft Use To Reduce Taxes

ha!

A tax incentive to sell intellectual assets to other countries. Now that’s what I call foreign aid. Below the line foreign aid.

39 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:26:16am
40 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:27:50am

re: #9 FemNaziBitch

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HA!

That’s the joy of ‘unanticipated results’. Once you open the door to one, you have to open it to all. Even ones you don’t like.
Prayer In School, Be careful what you wish for….

RBS

42 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:32:28am
43 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:33:13am
44 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:35:09am

If you want strange alliances I can think of a couple. Let’s start with Saddam Hussein and in other parts, the Mujaheddin.

45 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:36:32am
46 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:40:24am

Oy.

47 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:46:06am
48 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:49:30am
49 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:50:18am

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

How Elizabeth Warren Is Scaring the Crap Out of Think Tanks and Banks

She would make a wonderful second female president.

50 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:50:33am

re: #48 Gus

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He did his time, served his sentence, paid his debt to society more than all of us put together.

51 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:52:53am
52 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:52:57am

re: #50 FemNaziBitch

He did his time, served his sentence, paid his debt to society societies debt more than all of us put together.

FIFY

RBS

53 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:53:29am

The thinking process of these people defies belief:

The ANC accepted aid from the Soviet bloc, Mandela must be a communist.

The Soviet Union accepted aid from the Roosevelt administration. Stalin must have been a New York aristocrat. (All the more so since Stalin wasn’t in prison.)

54 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:54:53am

Mandela even invited a former prison guard to his inaugural no? He never sought “revenge.” He was quite gracious.

55 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:56:23am

Checked out some of the links Bob Estes has been tweeting - John Birch Society, Frontpage, Weasel Zippers. This guy is a hard core wingnut.

56 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:57:30am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Checked out some of the links Bob Estes has been tweeting - John Birch Society, Frontpage, Weasel Zippers. This guy is a hard core wingnut.

Oy. Weasel Zippers. They have some commenter there that’s always linking to some white supremacist “black on white crime” website.

57 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 11:59:34am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now THAT’S what American Football is all about. When a Super Bowl looks like that, say Green Bay vs. New England, it will be good, very good, indeed… :D

58 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:01:50pm

re: #39 FemNaziBitch

South Carolina Gun Nut Senator Dying For A Second Civil War (VIDEOS)

For every tax dollar it paid, South Carolina took in about two dollars of federal funding in 2010.* Has there been an economic miracle in the subsequent three years?

South Carolina Gun Nut Senator is a canting leech.

* $1.92 — motherjones.com ; $2.13 — ritholtz.com

59 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:03:13pm

Bibi wimping out on going to the memorial.

60 blueraven  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:05:45pm

I think a vast majority of the vitriol spouted against Mandela is because…Obama

If he had died during the Bush years, and was praised in the same manner, you might hear some blow-back but not nearly what we are hearing now.

Because Obama identifies with and was inspired by Mandela, his memory and his life must be tarnished as much as possible.

61 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:06:52pm

re: #54 Gus

Mandela even invited a former prison guard to his inaugural no? He never sought “revenge.” He was quite gracious.

From Jonathan Chait’s review of 12 Years a Slave

Notably, the most horrific torture depicted in 12 Years a Slave is set in motion when the protagonist, Solomon Northup, offers up to his master engineering knowledge he acquired as a free man, thereby showing up his enraged white overseer. It was precisely Northup’s calm, dignified competence in the scene that so enraged his oppressor.
nymag.com

I think part of what makes the RW so grumpy about Mandela is that he competently helped prevent a bloodbath in South Africa.

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:08:10pm

re: #61 jaunte

From Jonathan Chait’s review of 12 Years a Slave

I think part of what makes the RW so grumpy about Mandela is that he competently helped prevent a bloodbath in South Africa.

That’s because competency, passion, and forgiveness all put the lie to blacks being a inferior group.

63 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:08:28pm

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

The thinking process of these people defies belief:

The ANC accepted aid from the Soviet bloc, Mandela must be a communist.

The Soviet Union accepted aid from the Roosevelt administration. Stalin must have been a New York aristocrat. (All the more so since Stalin wasn’t in prison.)

The same dipshits will be quick to say that Luap Nor isn’t a white supremacist despite his newsletters featuring white supremacist writers.

64 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:10:37pm

re: #54 Gus

Mandela even invited a former prison guard to his inaugural no? He never sought “revenge.” He was quite gracious.

The prison guard taught Mandela Afrikaans.

“If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart.”

65 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:13:08pm

re: #61 jaunte

I think part of what makes the RW so grumpy about Mandela is that he competently helped prevent a bloodbath in South Africa.

Look at all their propaganda from the 80’s. The right wing expected Mandela to come out of prison and immediately start openly killing whites in the street. Instead, he worked hard to reconcile both sides in South Africa.

It’s the same racist shit driving the RWNJ derp over Obama. They expected the first black POTUS to start demanding reparations for slavery and opely lynching whites on the White House grounds as payback for Jim Crow. Instead they got a calm pragmatist that makes Spock look like an anger management patient.

It absolutely kills the racist douchebags when a person of color displays calm and competency at their jobs.

66 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:14:36pm

re: #58 Mentis Fugit

For every tax dollar it paid, South Carolina took in about two dollars of federal funding in 2010.* Has there been an economic miracle in the subsequent three years?

South Carolina Gun Nut Senator is a canting leech.

* $1.92 — motherjones.com ; $2.13 — ritholtz.com

South Carolina is becoming too crazy for the neoconfederates. Their faction of the League of the South has installed a chairman who has caused a split by adopting a new variant of the battle flag that’s entirely B&W. He is a white nationalist/neonazi stalwart.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

Michael Cushman, from SPLC:

splcenter.org

67 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:18:00pm

“What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?” Gingrich asks. “That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior.”

“This is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president,” Gingrich tells us.

“I think he worked very hard at being a person who is normal, reasonable, moderate, bipartisan, transparent, accommodating — none of which was true,” Gingrich continues. “In the Alinksy tradition, he was being the person he needed to be in order to achieve the position he needed to achieve … He was authentically dishonest.”
mediamatters.org

Inauthentically honest Newt the G.

68 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:21:56pm

“Mandela is a terrorist now if you’ll excuse me I have to take this arms shipment to the Mujaheddin.” //

69 Lord of the Pies  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:23:05pm

MACY’S IS TEH COMMUNIST!!!!!11!!!!!

70 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:23:50pm

Oops. //

71 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:25:55pm

re: #69 Lord of the Pies

MACY’S IS TEH COMMUNIST!!!!!11!!!!!

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Oh dear God. Derp. Derp. Did I say, derp?

72 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:25:58pm

Bb,b,b,ut there is no global warming.

73 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:30:12pm

re: #69 Lord of the Pies

MACY’S IS TEH COMMUNIST!!!!!11!!!!!

That makes my brain hurt.

74 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:30:29pm
75 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:31:20pm

re: #69 Lord of the Pies

MACY’S IS TEH COMMUNIST!!!!!11!!!!!

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OMG, the Lenin’s have captured Mr. Macy!
www1.macys.com

76 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:36:51pm

I seem to remember papa Koch making millions in the Soviet Union.

77 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:38:21pm

re: #76 Gus

I seem to remember papa Koch making millions in the Soviet Union.

A People’s History of Koch Industries: How Stalin Funded the Tea Party Movement

78 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:39:26pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

A People’s History of Koch Industries: How Stalin Funded the Tea Party Movement

Anti-Sovietism for you but not for me! [Ka-ching]

79 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:40:04pm

Pride Before The Fall?
Nothing Is Beyond Our Reach

Paged.

80 Kragar  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:44:04pm

re: #79 Political Atheist

Pride Before The Fall?
Nothing Is Beyond Our Reach

Paged.

Great, they put Cthulhu in orbit.

81 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:46:41pm
82 Kragar  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:48:45pm

Westboro Baptists ‘booking flights’ for Johannesburg to protest Mandela’s funeral

I wonder when they’ll realize South Africa isn’t going to put up with their shit.

83 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:50:47pm

going to try to sleep again.

bbl

84 Kragar  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:51:59pm

re: #81 Lidane

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:55:23pm

I knew it already…

86 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:55:31pm

re: #82 Kragar

Westboro Baptists ‘booking flights’ for Johannesburg to protest Mandela’s funeral

I wonder when they’ll realize South Africa isn’t going to put up with their shit.

I’m willing to kick in for one way flights. Half way would even be better.

87 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:56:51pm

re: #82 Kragar

Westboro Baptists ‘booking flights’ for Johannesburg to protest Mandela’s funeral

I wonder when they’ll realize South Africa isn’t going to put up with their shit.

As soon as they land in South Africa.

I’ll be amazed if they even gain entry into the country given their plans. If they DO manage to get in, they’ll end up arrested.

88 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:58:25pm

re: #82 Kragar

Westboro Baptists ‘booking flights’ for Johannesburg to protest Mandela’s funeral

I wonder when they’ll realize South Africa isn’t going to put up with their shit.

Could be a self-solving problem.

89 jaunte  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:58:30pm

re: #82 Kragar

Westboro Baptists ‘booking flights’ for Johannesburg to protest Mandela’s funeral

I wonder when they’ll realize South Africa isn’t going to put up with their shit.

Upcoming: a lesson about assumed privilege.

90 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:58:50pm

Meh. [deleted]

91 ObserverArt  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 12:59:39pm

I suggest someone needs to set up the online Tweet Twits Hall of Shame. First nominee, Bryan Fischer.

Other potential hall members: Prudence, Steve Stockman (short list…)

I’m sure there are many others. Got to start somewhere.

92 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:00:08pm

re: #57 William Barnett-Lewis

Now THAT’S what American Football is all about. When a Super Bowl looks like that, say Green Bay vs. New England, it will be good, very good, indeed… :D

Just like in Canada.

93 White African American  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:01:36pm

Many radio listeners this week heard audio of Nelson Mandela proclaiming his willingness at the Rivonia Trial to live —- and, if needs be, die —- for his beliefs.

Here is the story of how the long-lost audio of that famous speech was found:

allafrica.com

94 Kragar  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:01:58pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

I suggest someone needs to set up the online Tweet Twits Hall of Shame. First nominee, Bryan Fischer.

Other potential hall members: Prudence, Steve Stockman (short list…)

I’m sure there are many others. Got to start somewhere.

Image: The_Problem_with_Twitter.jpg

95 Lord of the Pies  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:02:49pm

HURR HURR DONTS BELIEVE TEH OBAMABOT!!!11!!!!!

96 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:03:28pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

Bb,b,b,ut there is no global warming.

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Believe it or not, Harper is an anti-science denier. But he loves his oil.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:04:10pm
98 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:04:17pm
99 Lord of the Pies  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:04:58pm
100 Kragar  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:06:28pm

re: #95 Lord of the Pies

HURR HURR DONTS BELIEVE TEH OBAMABOT!!!11!!!!!

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101 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:07:55pm

re: #100 Kragar

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Idiots struggling to stay idiots are idiots.

102 Gus  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:11:32pm

Meh. Never mind #90. Deleted. Lost interest.

103 Lord of the Pies  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:12:51pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

I suggest someone needs to set up the online Tweet Twits Hall of Shame. First nominee, Bryan Fischer.

Other potential hall members: Prudence, Steve Stockman (short list…)

I’m sure there are many others. Got to start somewhere.

#LNYHBT the Mother Lode of Derp

104 ObserverArt  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:15:45pm

Seems like a great day on da nile, which is not just a river in Africa!

105 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:17:02pm

Snow/cold/ice is making for weird football games today.

Blizzard in Eagles-Lions with Lions player with two TD returns (kick and punt) plus Eagles RB with over 200 yards rushing.

Now Ravens-Vikings game is ending weird with I think 4 TDs in the last five minutes and *3* in 1:24. Lead changing back and forth like a ping-pong ball.

106 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:17:10pm
107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:18:16pm

Rand Paul visited Detroit and asked “Anybody here work for a poor person?”

Image: 1497791_661219263930605_134320960_n.png

108 Kragar  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:20:15pm
109 Lidane  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:25:16pm

:04 left in the Baltimore/Minnesota game and Fox cuts away?

Bastards.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:25:59pm

not good.

111 Lord of the Pies  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:32:42pm

WTF. Gotta live one.

Got another one. (What RW racism????)

112 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 1:37:13pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

I suggest someone needs to set up the online Tweet Twits Hall of Shame. First nominee, Bryan Fischer.

Other potential hall members: Prudence, Steve Stockman (short list…)

I’m sure there are many others. Got to start somewhere.

David Sirota, Glenn Greenwald.

113 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 3:20:08pm

re: #108 Kragar

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They’re hard of learning.

114 Tigger2  Sun, Dec 8, 2013 5:05:14pm

re: #111 Lord of the Pies

WTF. Gotta live one.

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He must be getting paid better than the other trolls./


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