Overnight Jam: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings, ‘Retreat!’

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In their first animated music video, Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings face off against a pack of mischievous wolves in a psychedelic dance battle.

For more information about the making of “Retreat!” go to:
slanted.org

FULL CREDITS:
Artist: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings
Label: Daptone Records

Production Company: Slanted Studios
Executive Producer: Michelle Higa Fox

Director: Lizzi Akana
Art Director: Erin Kilkenny
Technical Director: Michelle Higa Fox
Additional Design: Josh Goodrich
Animation: Josh Goodrich, Shixie Shi, Tim Beckhardt, David Hobizal, Leah Shore, Gabriel Pulecio, Nika Offenbac
Watercolor Animation: Leeanne Brennan
FX Animation: Matt Timms
Special Thanks: Futurestack, Merlin, Olive, and the Fig Tree

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1 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Dec 10, 2013 9:06:50pm

White middle america is fucking strange.

Walmart Called - Your Christmas Photos Are ready

2 bratwurst  Tue, Dec 10, 2013 9:59:09pm

Trump Adviser Wants Him To Stay Out Of NY Governor’s Race

Don’t worry…the moment he has to provide the necessary financial disclosures, he is out of there.

3 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 10, 2013 9:59:12pm

A lot of those Xmas photos seem to stem from the 70/80’s, an era of unique strangeness in American popular cultural history.

4 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Dec 10, 2013 10:07:55pm

I haz question, mostly for Charles. For some reason, Chrome is not showing all the pretty buttons for dings and even formatting in comments. For example,
Image: Untitled-1_copy.png

I’m using the most recent version of Chrome on Vista. It makes no difference if I reload the page. Any ideas what’s up?

5 dog philosopher  Tue, Dec 10, 2013 10:30:39pm

re: #3 Sol Berdinowitz

A lot of those Xmas photos seem to stem from the 70/80’s, an era of unique strangeness in American popular cultural history.

when i was a kid in the 60s, we felt that the 50s deserved that title

of course, we had yet to experience the glories of polyester and white white disco

6 dog philosopher  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 12:06:17am

omg i think i have actually caught up with my business and personal correspondence and here it is only just after midnight and i’m up too late yet again

7 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 1:48:19am

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

White middle america is fucking strange.

I was showing my grandson those and he said, “Grandma, I don’t often feel at the top of the gene pool, but when I do, it’s when I’m at WalMart.”

Then, he said, when shown the photo of Granny in the t-shirt: “Grandma, promise me you’ll never do that.”

Image: badfamilyxmasphotos8.jpg

It’s Morning in America. Or Mourning for It.

8 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:08:29am

Just think, if Arianna & AOL had put out $250M, they could have bought Greenwald (he retweeted this).


Get ready for Huffington Post, Brazil edition.

9 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:11:02am

re: #8 Justanotherhuman

Just think, if Arianna & AOL had put out $250M, they could have bought Greenwald (he retweeted this).


Get ready for Huffington Post, Brazil edition.

I would lay odds that GG does not speak Portuguese beyond basic pleasantries.

10 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:30:47am

re: #9 wheat-dogghazi

I would lay odds that GG does not speak Portuguese beyond basic pleasantries.

Probably street Portuguese, but he obviously knows educated people who do, like those at El Globo, where he’s appeared on their TV program a number of times. That would be enough for that lot at HP/AOL—contacts. They need to get established before the World Cup.

But Omidyar has more money to burn.

11 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:36:29am

Well, lookee here. Want to know if your State legislators are bought by ALEC?

Page 39. The entire legislatures in S. Dakota and Iowa are members of ALEC, 100%. But it also appears ALEC is losing ground in some states: “Lost over 40%”—I think NC is among those. Art Pope is boss in NC, not ALEC, and I don’t know which is worse.

documentcloud.org

12 Kragar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:51:46am
13 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:52:45am

ALEC also voted to establish a 501(c)(4) called “The Jeffersonian Project” which could do any ALEC activities if legal counsel advises it will “provide greater legal protections and lessen ethics concerns.”

Page 13. documentcloud.org

A closer read of this ALEC documents gives great insight into how corporate interests combined with legislatures influence laws, lawmakers, and our future.

ALEC’s 2013 “prospects” list, page 34.

14 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:10:37am

re: #11 Justanotherhuman

NC membership may have fallen off to practically zilch, but the Speaker of the NC House, Thom Tillis, is a director of ALEC. (Page 5) He and Art Pope (called the third Koch brother in NC) are buddy-buddy in Tillis’s Senate race.

He would run against Kay Hagen in 2014, but his approval numbers are down in the GOP primary race right now.

GOP Senate race jumbled, Tillis’ numbers fall

Read more here: newsobserver.com

15 Amory Blaine  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:28:40am

Flair Master

16 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:32:15am

That’s it—I’m inventing my own “church” and getting wealthy off ignorant and loaded idiots. Nah, I don’t have any faith in bullshit and skirting the law with hocus-pocus.

Woman wins legal battle to marry in London Church of Scientology chapel
Supreme court rules in favour of Louisa Hodkin after deciding Scientology church is ‘place of meeting for religious worship’

theguardian.com

The only thing Scientologists worship is money. But don’t all sects?

17 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:34:49am

Well, it’s a new morning and all I can type is brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. 16 degrees with some wind.

But I see some 40s in our future. I’ll take ‘em!

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:36:06am

re: #17 ObserverArt

Well, it’s a new morning and all I can type is brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. 16 degrees with some wind.

But I see some 40s in our future. I’ll take ‘em!

Same here. But not as cold as this place:

OTOH, the sky is prettier there.

19 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:37:13am

Up for over an hour…I’m doing big time coffee, packing and playing with the dog. He is so dumb..I love him.. I can just jack him up at 5am.
So..What is the first news story I hear before even the weather? ( Weather sucks )
50% of all woman polled this morning would rather give up sex than their cell phone for a month. Men.. This is your failure..
With all the passion in the world..You came in second to a phone..
Shit..It’s so funny…
What was that 60’s song? Try a little tenderness?
It is so funny..Half of all men lose out to texting..

20 Amory Blaine  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:38:49am

Yeah I’m on the road later today. Going to Louisville for family fun. Bringing the geetar!!

21 Amory Blaine  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:40:32am

re: #19 HoosierHoops

Yeah well, it could be worse.

British women would rather give up sex than moisturiser

heh

22 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:42:12am

re: #20 Amory Blaine

Yeah I’m on the road later today. Going to Louisville for family fun. Bringing the geetar!!

Love it there..We went there several times for the race parties..1.5 hrs from Indy. Great people..

23 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:46:03am

re: #19 HoosierHoops

50% of all woman polled this morning would rather give up sex than their cell phone for a month. Men.. This is your failure..

How many times do they have sex, and how many times do they use their cell phones? I hate to say it, but it’s a no-brainer.

Still sad, though…

24 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:48:23am

re: #19 HoosierHoops

Up for over an hour…I’m doing big time coffee, packing and playing with the dog. He is so dumb..I love him.. I can just jack him up at 5am.
So..What is the first news story I hear before even the weather? ( Weather sucks )
50% of all woman polled this morning would rather give up sex than their cell phone for a month. Men.. This is your failure..
With all the passion in the world..You came in second to a phone..
Shit..It’s so funny…
What was that 60’s song? Try a little tenderness?
It is so funny..Half of all men lose out to texting..

Not funny. I don’t use a cell phone, but men really don’t want women who are that weird, that they wouldn’t have the latest gadgets. I mean, how could they send each other photos of their genitals? Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer being unwrapped like a present, and getting one myself, not being seen as some sort of “investment” of someone’s time and energy. That takes all the fun out of it.

I suppose I just don’t understand modern “courtship” at all. Well, that I even called it that puts me in way back in the 20th century, I suppose.

25 freetoken  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:48:51am

1958, from the first Christmas album by a young 23 y.o. Johnny Mathis:

MP3 Audio

26 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:58:37am

So, women would prefer putting on moisturizer and talking on their cell phone than making love?

Lolwhut?

There’s your clue, men.

27 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:59:31am

re: #24 Justanotherhuman

Good Morning..It’s the first morning of my early retirement..Think I’ll make Pancakes..Pancakes sound good right? And eggs..And coffee…
Need to do some packing today..But breakfast…I need pancakes..Stat!

28 freetoken  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:00:42am

An old classical standby, words originally written supposedly in the 13th century, here I believe the Mozart rendition:

MP3 Audio

29 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:01:08am

re: #27 HoosierHoops

Good Morning..It’s the first morning of my early retirement..Think I’ll make Pancakes..Pancakes sound good right? And eggs..And coffee…
Need to do some packing today..But breakfast…I need pancakes..Stat!

G’morning!

30 sagehen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:07:19am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Same here. But not as cold as this place:

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OTOH, the sky is prettier there.

Is that Prince Harry looking out the window?

31 sagehen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:09:32am

re: #23 Sol Berdinowitz

How many times do they have sex, and how many times do they use their cell phones? I hate to say it, but it’s a no-brainer.

Still sad, though…

(pssst… it’s only British women answering that survey; need I point out that the sex they’re willing to give up is with British men? I’m sure you’d get a different answer in many other places)

(rimshot)

32 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:14:11am

When in the last 10 years did people start calling it “having sex” instead of “making love”?

Call me an old romantic, but it just sounds so damned clinical. I suppose “getting off” is more important these days for far too many. You wanna do that instead of really “being there” for the other person and his or her needs, getting to know one another, do it yourself.

re: #31 sagehen

(pssst… it’s only British women answering that survey; need I point out that the sex they’re willing to give up is with British men? I’m sure you’d get a different answer in many other places)

(rimshot)

Naw, not if British TV is any example. The Brits are as randy a bunch as any I’ve seen. Can’t keep their knickers on. : )

33 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:14:34am

re: #31 sagehen

(pssst… it’s only British women answering that survey; need I point out that the sex they’re willing to give up is with British men? I’m sure you’d get a different answer in many other places)

(rimshot)

Well.. She was an American girl
raised on promises..

34 freetoken  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:28:02am

Beware of COOKIES!!

The Greensnow dribble continues…

NSA uses ‘cookies’ to locate its targets

[…]

The agency’s internal presentation slides, provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, show that when companies follow consumers on the Internet to better tailor their advertising, the technique opens the door for similar tracking by the government.

According to the documents, the NSA and its British counterpart, GCHQ, are using the tracking files called “cookies” that advertising networks place on computers to identify people browsing the Internet.

[…]

35 freetoken  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:31:40am

Not that this is anything unique to RT, but dropping misleading nouns into headlines to grab attention at it’s finest:

300k Fukushima refugees still living ‘in cages’ in makeshift camps

Makes one think that the Fukushima nuclear power disaster is responsible…. but many of those residents don’t have a home because of the earthquake and tsunami.

But heh…. FUKUSHIMA!!!

36 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:35:38am

re: #35 freetoken

Not that this is anything unique to RT, but dropping misleading nouns into headlines to grab attention at it’s finest:

300k Fukushima refugees still living ‘in cages’ in makeshift camps

Makes one think that the Fukushima nuclear power disaster is responsible…. but many of those residents don’t have a home because of the earthquake and tsunami.

But heh…. FUKUSHIMA!!!

It’s like Japan’s Benghazi!!

37 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:37:33am

re: #20 Amory Blaine

Yeah I’m on the road later today. Going to Louisville for family fun. Bringing the geetar!!

I was in Louisville for a night on the way down to Alabama. Stayed at the gorgeous old Brown Hotel.

38 freetoken  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:37:52am

One of the wingnuts’ favorite tokens, Walter Williams, chimes:

Williams: It is not about Earth, but communism

[…]

I’ve pointed out only a tiny portion of the cataclysmic events that have struck the earth — ignoring whole categories, such as tornadoes, hurricanes, lightning strikes, fires, blizzards, landslides and avalanches. Despite these cataclysmic events, the earth survived. My question is: Which of these powers of nature can be matched by mankind? For example, can mankind duplicate the polluting effects of the 1815 Tambora volcanic eruption or the asteroid impact that wiped out dinosaurs? It is the height of arrogance to think that mankind can make significant parametric changes in the earth or can match nature’s destructive forces.

Occasionally, environmentalists spill the beans and reveal their true agenda. Barry Commoner said, “Capitalism is the earth’s number one enemy.” Amherst College professor Leo Marx said, “On ecological grounds, the case for world government is beyond argument.” With the decline of the USSR, communism has lost considerable respectability and is now repackaged as environmentalism and progressivism.

Meanwhile, down south, way south:

Antarctica’s Ice Loss On The Rise

Three years of observations by ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is losing over 150 cubic kilometres of ice each year – considerably more than when last surveyed.

The imbalance in West Antarctica continues to be dominated by ice losses from glaciers flowing into the Amundsen Sea.

“We find that ice thinning continues to be most pronounced along fast-flowing ice streams of this sector and their tributaries, with thinning rates of between 4–8 m per year near to the grounding lines – where the ice streams lift up off the land and begin to float out over the ocean – of the Pine Island, Thwaites and Smith Glaciers,” said Dr Malcolm McMillan from the University of Leeds, UK.

Melting of ice sheets that blanket Antarctica and Greenland is a major contributor to global sea-level rise.

An international team of polar scientists had recently concluded that West Antarctica caused global sea levels to rise by 0.28 mm each year between 2005 and 2010, based on observations from 10 different satellite missions. But the latest research from CryoSat suggests that the sea level contribution from this area is now 15% higher.

[…]

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:47:05am
40 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:49:27am

But can he twerk?

41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:50:09am

re: #40 Lord of the Pies

But can he twerk?

Who knows what he does when he sneaks out at night?

42 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:50:49am
43 freetoken  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:50:59am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOOK WHO HE JOINS!!!!

44 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:51:01am

re: #38 freetoken

“Capitalism is the earth’s number one enemy.” Amherst College professor Leo Marx said, “On ecological grounds, the case for world government is beyond argument.”

One function of the market is to ensure that the price of an item is in line with the actual costs related to it, including social and environmental ones.

Without a mechanism to ensure ensure that costs are borne by those who incur them, the entire system is skewered towards players who manage to slough their costs off down the road or sweep them underground for others to deal with later.

And since these elements do not stop at national boundaries, there is a strong case for an international body to regulate the markets.

45 Amory Blaine  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:51:49am

MMmm. A steaming hot one, fresh off the presses.

Report: Wisconsin’s rejection of Medicaid money will cost the state $1.8 billion in 2022

According to a new study, Wisconsin will lose $1.8 billion in 2022 by rejecting federal funds to pay for expansion of its Medicaid program.

While that pales in comparison to the $9.2 billion Texas will lose as a consequence of rejecting federally funded Medicaid expansion, or the $5 billion forgone by Florida, it roughly equals the amount the state will pay that year in incentives to attract private businesses to the state.

And the kicker: Wisconsin residents will still pay federal taxes that go to fund Medicaid expansion in other states.

46 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:54:45am

re: #45 Amory Blaine

MMmm. A steaming hot one, fresh off the presses.

Report: Wisconsin’s rejection of Medicaid money will cost the state $1.8 billion in 2022

WI voters are really getting spanked for electing retrogrades like Walker, et al.

47 Joanne  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:58:13am

HHoops, congrats on your retirement!

It sounds as if your head is still attached after a night of mass celebration. :-)

48 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:00:07am

re: #11 Justanotherhuman

Well, lookee here. Want to know if your State legislators are bought by ALEC?

Page 39. The entire legislatures in S. Dakota and Iowa are members of ALEC, 100%. But it also appears ALEC is losing ground in some states: “Lost over 40%”—I think NC is among those. Art Pope is boss in NC, not ALEC, and I don’t know which is worse.

documentcloud.org

That’s worth a close read. There are some surprises, and some valuable media and commerce lists.

49 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:08:27am

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

WI voters are really getting spanked for electing retrogrades like Walker, et al.

Given the crap candidates the Democrats insist on running (I’m _still_ getting fund raising spam from the twit that lost the last TWO elections.) it’s more a surprise that we aren’t fucked even worse.

50 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:09:01am

re: #42 Lord of the Pies

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Must be tough to lose ‘Person of the Year’ to a guy in a beanie and a white dress.

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:14:51am

hahahaaaa

Other “runners-up” included Ted Cruz and Assad.

52 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:15:44am
53 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:24:03am

Very sad for these young people.

The Homeschool Apostates

They were raised to carry the fundamentalist banner forward and redeem America. But now the Joshua Generation is rebelling.

prospect.org

54 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:25:50am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaaa

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Other “runners-up” included Ted Cruz and Assad.

And Miley Cyrus? Teehee.

55 Lidane  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:26:06am
56 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:29:26am

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

Very sad for these young people.

The Homeschool Apostates

They were raised to carry the fundamentalist banner forward and redeem America. But now the Joshua Generation is rebelling.

prospect.org

Some countries forbid home schooling, America takes a highly unregulated approach that leaves room for cases like the one described.

57 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:39:15am

OT: Son just called. He and DIL are heading to the hospital for possible delivery of my second grandson. The hospital is only about a mile and a half from my office so I can be there pretty quickly after I get the call that the baby is on the way.

58 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:46:20am

re: #52 Lord of the Pies

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Considering all the THE STORY IS NOT ABOUT SNOWDEN!!!1! BS we had to listen to months this particular overlooked diva poutrage is really annoying.

59 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:47:20am

re: #57 Eventual Carrion


Congratulations and best wishes for an easy birth.

60 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:56:03am

Really starting to enjoy Harry Reid—nothing like Old School.

Reid Aide Gives Cornyn Democratic Bear Hug

talkingpointsmemo.com

61 Lidane  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 5:56:36am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

Ha! Giving Cornyn a Judas kiss. That’s awesome.

62 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:00:54am
63 sattv4u2  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:03:01am

re: #57 Eventual Carrion

OT: Son just called. He and DIL are heading to the hospital for possible delivery of my second grandson. The hospital is only about a mile and a half from my office so I can be there pretty quickly after I get the call that the baby is on the way.

Pre-Congrats

Perfect excuse for a Skip Work day, no matter how long the delivery takes!!

64 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:05:01am

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

Very sad for these young people.

The Homeschool Apostates

They were raised to carry the fundamentalist banner forward and redeem America. But now the Joshua Generation is rebelling.

prospect.org

Thank you for this article. I’ve seen a lot of this as well. I used to think that those bible “academies” were bad but at least by having the form of a school it’s better for the kids even if they are taught the same ignorance. This kind of trash is sickness.

65 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:05:50am

re: #61 Lidane

Ha! Giving Cornyn a Judas kiss. That’s awesome.

That is exactly what I thought when I saw Decatur Deb’s comment.

Operation “Buddy Up a Conservative” is underway. Man your cameras. Dems, choose a favorite Republican you wanna make sweat and have to fight off a ‘nut in the ‘14 primaries.

66 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:06:45am

Glenn can take solace in the fact that Snowden is the FSB’s person of the year.

67 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:08:56am

Oh yeah…Snowden as TIME person of the year. So sorry.

And that bit where Glenn G calls him an exile…he built that for himself. Someone send a box of tissues to Glenn so he can dry those eyes.

68 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:11:22am

re: #67 ObserverArt

Oh yeah…Snowden as TIME person of the year. So sorry.

And that bit where Glenn G calls him an exile…he built that for himself. Someone send a box of tissues to Glenn so he can dry those eyes.

I wouldn’t give GG my sweat flop.

69 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:14:18am

re: #65 ObserverArt

That is exactly what I thought when I saw Decatur Deb’s comment.

Operation “Buddy Up a Conservative” is underway. Man your cameras. Dems, choose a favorite Republican you wanna make sweat and have to fight off a ‘nut in the ‘14 primaries.

Doncha love it? I hope the nuts keep on coming.

Image: government+shutdown.jpg

70 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:16:14am

Actually Matt, it should make the Ayn-Rander, Yoonyun-buster, Walton & Koch worshipping Haters of Teh Poors lose their shit.

71 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:18:43am

So now Snowden misses out on a year’s free subscription to TIME?

Ask anyone next week who the person of the year is and no one will remember.

The only TIME people of the year people remember getting the honor are:

Gandhi
Hitler
You
and
Stalin

72 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:19:43am

re: #71 b.d.

So now Snowden misses out on a year’s free subscription to TIME?

Ask anyone next week who the person of the year is and no one will remember.

The only TIME people of the year people remember getting the honor are:

Gandhi
Hitler
You
and
Stalin

THE COMPUTER

73 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:20:27am

re: #70 Lord of the Pies

Actually Matt, it should make the Ayn-Rander, Yoonyun-buster, Walton & Koch worshipping Haters of Teh Poors lose their shit.

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I guess he didn’t get the RW memo that they hate the pope now. Shit, didn’t Pope John Paul II win in the late 70’s or early 80’s? What idiots like Barber don’t seem to get is Time chooses someone who they think they had the most impact on the year so even though I strongly do disagree with Francis on abortion and gay marriage, I think it’s a fine choice because I think he’s starting a new dialogue and attitude within the RCC that needed to happen. One that Barber couldn’t have started since Barber’s stuck in the Dark Ages.

74 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:21:47am

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

Doncha love it? I hope the nuts keep on coming.

Image: government+shutdown.jpg

The state of the GOP today all summed up.

75 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:23:08am

Matt Barber is the utterly horrible human being who Tweeted this shit:

76 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:23:16am

re: #74 Varek Raith

The state of the GOP today all summed up.

Heh yeah. I can’t believe we have a possibility of yet another shut down in January. Fun, fun.

78 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:26:26am

re: #70 Lord of the Pies

Actually Matt, it should make the Ayn-Rander, Yoonyun-buster, Walton & Koch worshipping Haters of Teh Poors lose their shit.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, fools, please.

Even this old atheist approves the choice. I don’t mind incremental change, after all, it’s better than the “all or nothing” choices, and if Francis does change the direction of the church to embrace helping the poor, more power to him.

79 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:27:32am

re: #77 Varek Raith

Oklahoma lawmakers: No Satanist monument because ‘this is a faith-based state’

Lol.

I’d like to see the Satanists take this one all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. I’d say they’ve got a good case.

80 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:27:58am

Greets and saluts from the chilly but sunny NYC metro area. I see that Time selected Pope Francis as the POY. It’s a good though safe choice.

The Pope has definitely put his own stamp on the Vatican’s public face. He’s trying to move the Church in a more person-centric direction where faith is paramount and trying to get people to connect or reconnect with the Church, especially in areas where the Church has lost support through scandals. His message is one of trying to spread the faith while remaining true to traditional church doctrine. It wont be a sea-change where all of a sudden we’ll see gay or married priests, but one that is more inclusive.

Those are generally positive developments.

I see that Snowden’s a runner up and Greenwald’s feeling the hurtz. Too bad. So sad. Snowden’s a criminal who stole classified information and isn’t a whistleblower (which would indicate that he’s stayed in-country to defend his actions). He fled to a country and sought asylum in a country that directly benefits from the revelations (Russia). Did he shake up national security? Absolutely. That’s why he’s in the running.

But so too is the butcher Assad. Murdering his own countrymen who have taken up arms against him because of his violent repression of the majority of Syrians - more than 120,000 have died in Syria because of the ongoing conflict. His actions have repercussions throughout the Middle East. So, that put him in the running.

On the whole, the Pope’s selection is a positivist choice - one that is intended to make people feel good, rather than going with someone whose criminality was particularly noteworthy.

81 djcelts  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:28:15am

Charles,
Thanks for posting this video. I am a big fan of Sharon and the Dap Kings and I’m really looking forward to the new album. They need to be heard by more people.

82 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:28:25am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

I’d like to see the Satanists take this one all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. I’d say they’ve got a good case.

Yep, the state walked right in to this one.

83 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:28:56am

re: #77 Varek Raith

Oklahoma lawmakers: No Satanist monument because ‘this is a faith-based state’

Lol.

Can my stick figure sculpture of Allah make it to OKC?

84 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:29:31am

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Can my stick figure sculpture of Allah make it to OKC?

How about a DC9 devoted to Xenu?

85 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:29:36am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

I’d like to see the Satanists take this one all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. I’d say they’ve got a good case.

I do too. This is an obvious example of one state favoring one religion over others.

86 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:29:52am

re: #34 freetoken

Beware of COOKIES!!

The Greensnow dribble continues…

NSA uses ‘cookies’ to locate its targets

This is news. That point has been known for more than a decade. I can’t even say I’m ‘Shocked!’, because its so ‘old news’.

87 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:30:08am

[His Holiness Pope Francis] I humbly accept TIME Magazine’s honor of being Man of The Year for the sole reason that it pisses off Glenn Greenwald [/His Holiness Pope Francis]

88 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:30:20am

re: #84 Lord of the Pies

How about a DC9 devoted to Xenu?

That’s for someone else, I’m a terrible artist so I have to go some the popsicle sticks for the aforementioned.

89 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:30:42am

re: #82 Varek Raith

Yep, the state walked right in to this one.

I agree. Should the SCOTUS rule on behalf of the Satanists (and I think they would - it’s a pretty clear-cut First Amendment case) the wingnuts will lose it in spectacular fashion.

90 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:31:34am

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Can my stick figure sculpture of Allah make it to OKC?

re: #84 Lord of the Pies

How about a DC9 devoted to Xenu?

Yes.

91 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:32:01am

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

Doncha love it? I hope the nuts keep on coming.

Image: government+shutdown.jpg

Wouldn’t you rather have a budget deal? Ryan and Murray seem to have negotiated a decent one. how about holding off on the trolling so the deal can get passed.

92 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:32:14am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

I agree. Should the SCOTUS rule on behalf of the Satanists (and I think they would - it’s a pretty clear-cut First Amendment case) the wingnuts will lose it in spectacular fashion.

Hell I think Scalia may even take the Satanists side in this. Or maybe I haven’t had any caffeine yet and I’m giving Old Tony too much credit.

93 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:33:19am

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Wouldn’t you rather have a budget deal? Ryan and Murray seem to have negotiated a decent one. how about holding off on the trolling so the deal can get passed.

You’re asking the wrong people.
Talk to your side, they’re the ones who will scuttle it.

94 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:33:23am

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

It’s only shocking when Obama the government does it; when corporations and Russian billionaire criminals do it, it’s OK.

95 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:33:53am

Tracking cookies?
I eated them.

96 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:34:03am

For clarification purposes.

Previous papal winners include Pope John Paul II in 1994 and John XXIII in 1962.

news.sky.com

97 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:34:44am

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Hell I think Scalia may even take the Satanists side in this. Or maybe I haven’t had any caffeine yet and I’m giving Old Tony too much credit.

Heh. Who knows? It could end up being one of those very rare decisions in which all of the Justices rule unanimously.

Man, the winguts would really lose it at that point.

98 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:35:09am

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

For clarification purposes.

Previous papal winners include Pope John Paul II in 1994 and John XXIII in 1962.

news.sky.com

Now here I thought JPII would have won in the late 70’s and early 80’s at the height of the Solidarity movement in Poland. John XXIII in ‘62 makes sense for the same reasons that Francis makes sense now.

99 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:35:34am

Lol.

100 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:36:05am

re: #78 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, fools, please.

Even this old atheist approves the choice. I don’t mind incremental change, after all, it’s better than the “all or nothing” choices, and if Francis does change the direction of the church to embrace helping the poor, more power to him.

He is still anti-abortion and anti-homosexuality but has made it clear that these are not the core message of his Church, which is light-years beyond the message of a lot of fundamentalists in the USA.

101 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:36:13am

re: #97 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Who knows? It could end up being one of those very rare decisions in which all of the Justices rule unanimously.

Man, the winguts would really lose it at that point.

If that would mean, we’d get a Twitter shot of Bryan Fischer all the justices of the Supreme Court satanists and some unusual harmony on the USSC, then it will be worth it.

102 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:36:45am

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Wouldn’t you rather have a budget deal? Ryan and Murray seem to have negotiated a decent one. how about holding off on the trolling so the deal can get passed.

I was talking about incumbent Rs being primaried, ensuring wins for Dems.

The Rs are going to be the ones objecting to the budget deal, and just wait—Ryan will be persona non grata because he didn’t go far enough to take the Obama admin down.

103 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:36:51am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

I agree. Should the SCOTUS rule on behalf of the Satanists (and I think they would - it’s a pretty clear-cut First Amendment case) the wingnuts will lose it in spectacular fashion.

They’ll rule in favor of the Satanists. I doubt they’ll enjoy ruling that way, since many of the justices likely find Satanism offensive, but I predict the ruling will be unanimous. The only justice I can see as possibly siding with Oklahoma would be Justice Thomas.

104 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:37:35am

re: #102 Justanotherhuman

I was talking about incumbent Rs being primaried, ensuring wins for Dems.

The Rs are going to be the ones objecting to the budget deal, and just wait—Ryan will be persona non grata because he didn’t go far enough to take the Obama admin down.

Conservatives Revolting On Ryan Budget Deal

105 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:38:07am

re: #104 Varek Raith

Conservatives Revolting On Ryan Budget Deal

They stink on ice.

106 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:38:28am

Everyone who doesn’t get person of the year is in second place.

107 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:38:38am

re: #99 Varek Raith

Lol.

The most shocking part about this to me is that Bill Donahue has kids especially ones that he has to explain things to. Leading me to believe A_)he has adult children and has sheltered them and B) he’s another hypocrite
who has remarried and has small kids. Note to Bill, religion is allowed to be teased and you’re a little late to be upset by a Seinfeld spoof.

108 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:38:57am

re: #99 Varek Raith

Lol.

I assume she’s too cheap (and non-believing) to have a creche in her own house for her kids? She can certainly afford it.

Screw you, Getchen, you cheap-assed, hypocritical shill.

109 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:39:19am

re: #106 darthstar

Everyone who doesn’t get person of the year is in second place.

[Embedded content]

Robbed?
Irony.

110 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:39:36am

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

They’ll rule in favor of the Satanists. I doubt they’ll enjoy ruling that way, since many of the justices likely find Satanism offensive, but I predict the ruling will be unanimous. The only justice I can see as possibly siding with Oklahoma would be Justice Thomas.

I agree. This is a clear-cut First Amendment case, no ambiguity about it. No matter what people may think of Satanists, they have every right to practice their religion. The First Amendment applies to all, regardless of their creed.

111 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:40:29am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

I agree. This is a clear-cut First Amendment case, no ambiguity about it. No matter what people may think of Satanists, they have every right to practice their religion. The First Amendment applies to all, regardless of their creed.

Can I get a statue of myself???
/

112 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:40:36am

re: #108 Justanotherhuman

I assume she’s too cheap (and non-believing) to have a creche in her own house for her kids? She can certainly afford it.

Screw you, Getchen, you cheap-assed, hypocritical shill.

She does, she is just playing on the sacred image of “our America” when you could load the kids into your union-made American car and drive them downtown to see the Nativity scene in a public park.

113 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:40:42am

re: #102 Justanotherhuman

I was talking about incumbent Rs being primaried, ensuring wins for Dems.

The Rs are going to be the ones objecting to the budget deal, and just wait—Ryan will be persona non grata because he didn’t go far enough to take the Obama admin down.

Don’t assume the incumbent being primaried means a win for you; Instead you might end up helping to hand the seat over to a nutcase.

Once again I say, as I have since 2008, that it is unwise to try to get crazy candidates nominated on the other side, because then you might end up with crazy officeholders.

114 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:40:43am

re: #109 Varek Raith

Robbed?
Irony.

Hahahahaha

115 piratedan  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:41:22am

re: #106 darthstar

if only the Pope hadn’t applied to Booz and stolen the voters passwords and downloaded the votes for sale to the Russian Orthodox Church, Snowden would have TOTALLY won!

116 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:41:38am

re: #52 Lord of the Pies

When GG starts tossing insults the Pope’s way someone should make sure they get translated to Portuguese and dumped back out on the Brazilian twitter channel. Let his home audience learn what he is really like.

117 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:42:35am

Just like Greenwald. He’s the Kanye West of newsmakers.
I’m going to let you finish but Ed Snowden has the best year of all!

118 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:42:53am

Glenn Greenwald retweeted:

119 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:43:22am

re: #65 ObserverArt

That is exactly what I thought when I saw Decatur Deb’s comment.

Operation “Buddy Up a Conservative” is underway. Man your cameras. Dems, choose a favorite Republican you wanna make sweat and have to fight off a ‘nut in the ‘14 primaries.

Someone needs to find a picture of Jimmy Carter shaking hands with Franco and dump it on FR.
/

120 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:43:34am
121 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:43:35am

re: #111 Varek Raith

Can I get a statue of myself???
/

Only if you’re the founder of Varekism. Then I say……go for it.

122 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:43:55am

This reminds me of the dudebros;

Peter: Well, I’m gettin’ something really special too. And by special I don’t mean special like that Kleinaman boy down the street. More special like… like Special K, the cereal. Hey, what do they do with the regular K? And for that matter, what ever happend to K. Ballard? You know, if you said mallard and you had a cold, it would sound like ballard.

Brian: Do you listen to yourself when you talk?

Peter: I drift in and out.

123 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:44:02am
124 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:44:27am
125 piratedan  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:44:43am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

well apparently a win for you means that millions of Americans suffer for the sake of ideological purity and political expediency, so excuse us if we root for our side to win and restore some semblance of sanity to the affairs of the nation. Christ DF, you show signs of reasonableness from time to time regarding issues and whammo you turn back into full blown partisan mode when it comes to thinking about some sort of political expediency and completely forget that the decisions of the party that you supposedly support totally abhor you when given even the slightest modicum of reflection.

126 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:44:54am

re: #99 Varek Raith

Lol.

You know, Fox would win their war on Christmas if they’d just shut the fuck up about it. Nobody really cares. The PBR Festivus pole is just another example of how gullible they are.

127 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:45:12am

re: #120 Lord of the Pies

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Right and picking Snowden wouldn’t have been “cowardly.” He’s right that the economic message the Pope is talking isn’t new but I’d ask him what has Snowden actually done to change the conversation in security practices and better yet, what about say the real whistleblower in Syria who risked his life to prove that the Syrian government committed crimes against its own people

128 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:45:24am

Gleen Greenwald Retweeted:


Hahahahaha, bitter much?

129 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:45:33am

re: #120 Lord of the Pies

Gee, someone stealing classified intel and dumping it into the hands of those who wish to do that country harm isn’t new. But it is cowardly when that person seeks asylum in a country that benefits from the theft.

130 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:45:45am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Don’t assume the incumbent being primaried means a win for you; Instead you might end up helping to hand the seat over to a nutcase.

Once again I say, as I have since 2008, that it is unwise to try to get crazy candidates nominated on the other side, because then you might end up with crazy officeholders.

At worst, it means they replace one nutcase with another, depleting their warchests in the process. Every TPGOP dollar spent in Texas is one that won’t be spent in Florida.

131 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:46:36am
132 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:46:41am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

I agree. Should the SCOTUS rule on behalf of the Satanists (and I think they would - it’s a pretty clear-cut First Amendment case) the wingnuts will lose it in spectacular fashion.

Will the decision be announced with “Sympathy for the Devil” playing in the background?
:)

133 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:47:04am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Reid would’ve lost had it not been for the TP.
They also cost you that Delaware seat.
They are toxic.

134 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:47:20am

re: #124 Lord of the Pies

[Embedded content]

Of course if Snowden was Person of the Year then TIME would be a very highly respected publication and a huge honor.

135 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:47:34am

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

Will the decision be announced with “Sympathy for the Devil” playing in the background?
:)

Gets me thinking, I’m sure there are still many a fundamentalist zealot who is outraged over that song being allowed to play on the radio.

136 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:48:06am

re: #133 Varek Raith

Reid would’ve lost had it not been for the TP.
They also cost you that Delaware seat.
They are toxic.

You also would’ve won the Va Governor had they not put up that kook Ken.

137 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:48:17am
138 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:48:27am

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

Will the decision be announced with “Sympathy for the Devil” playing in the background?
:)

Probably not, but that would be awesome. :)

139 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:06am

10 Racial Justice Wins for 2013

Some stuff I didn’t know, and very kewl.

140 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:08am

re: #137 Lord of the Pies

[Embedded content]

54 is the new elderly?

141 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:21am

It snowed a bit again last night.

you?

142 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:35am

re: #133 Varek Raith

Reid would’ve lost had it not been for the TP.
They also cost you that Delaware seat.
They are toxic.

McAuliffe gets creamed if the Va GOP doesn’t pander to the Cuccinelli wing of the party. Instead Virginia Dems despite the most unlikable Dem to run for governor in ages sweeps gov, lt gov, and AG. Yes, there are some places where the TP challenger has become successful in the GE but they are far and in between compared with the “true conservatives” who got their asses handed to them in a GE.

143 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:38am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

It snowed a bit again last night.

you?

Icy.

144 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:42am

re: #137 Lord of the Pies

Yes. Bin Laden was just watching porn when he died. So what?

145 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:45am

re: #140 Varek Raith

54 is the new elderly?

depends on the age of the person you are asking :)

Most 12 year olds would think so.

146 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:49:48am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Gets me thinking, I’m sure there are still many a fundamentalist zealot who is outraged over that song being allowed to play on the radio.

I had a buddy whose parents would not allow Beatles records in the house over John’s “more popular than Jesus” comment but we were allowed to listen to the Rolling Stones…

147 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:12am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Don’t assume the incumbent being primaried means a win for you; Instead you might end up helping to hand the seat over to a nutcase.

Once again I say, as I have since 2008, that it is unwise to try to get crazy candidates nominated on the other side, because then you might end up with crazy officeholders.

They’re already holding office anyway. At least the ones that won’t go back once people come to their senses.

The congressional approval rate is at its lowest in history. And that’s not just Dems. I think plenty of Rs are having buyer’s remorse.

148 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:13am

re: #137 Lord of the Pies

[Embedded content]

Aw the poor elderly 54 year old Bin Laden?

149 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:16am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Only if you’re the founder of Varekism. Then I say……go for it.

Deny Varek’s divinity three times and you face the orbital death ray.

150 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:17am

re: #140 Varek Raith

54 is the new elderly?

HE WAS ALREADY DYING OF KIDNEY FAILURE!!!!111!!!

151 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:28am

re: #137 Lord of the Pies

[Embedded content]

Elderly? He was only four years older than Obama.

152 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:43am

re: #140 Varek Raith

54 is the new elderly?

That is my age, Ask my 35-year-old girlfriend…

153 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:50:52am

Pope or Snowden for Person of the year?

I vote for Malala.

154 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:51:35am

re: #153 FemNaziBitch

Pope or Snowden for Person of the year?

I vote for Malala.

Good choice. And she’s someone who actually placed herself in real danger too.

155 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:51:54am

re: #137 Lord of the Pies

[Embedded content]

Jesus, Glenn. OBL was 54 when that happened.

The same age as my older son, and I’m elderly, not him.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:53:25am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Don’t assume the incumbent being primaried means a win for you; Instead you might end up helping to hand the seat over to a nutcase.

Once again I say, as I have since 2008, that it is unwise to try to get crazy candidates nominated on the other side, because then you might end up with crazy officeholders.

That’s how Kentucky ended up with Rand Paul.

157 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:53:56am
158 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:54:36am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

It snowed a bit again last night.

you?

Sunny, cold overnight, high of 51 today (we’ll see about that one).

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:54:40am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

It snowed a bit again last night.

you?

No snow. Just clear and cold. Any rain melt that didn’t drain off yesterday is now ice.

Young cat has taken to the Feline Overlord throne. Was sleeping on it last night. Older cat still prefers the office chair since it is better cushioned and has a few towels piled on it for cat comfort. The latter is also very convenient for getting to the window sill in the bedroom.

160 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:55:12am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s how Kentucky ended up with Rand Paul.

Reminds me but I really think Kentucky’s current Dem governor should run against him in 2016.

161 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:56:05am

re: #146 Sol Berdinowitz

I had a buddy whose parents would not allow Beatles records in the house over John’s “more popular than Jesus” comment but we were allowed to listen to the Rolling Stones…

We weren’t allowed to play “Wake Up, Little Susie” in our dorms—dirty song.
Times change.

162 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:56:13am

Yup, this would be the point, wouldn’t it.

163 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:56:21am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s how Kentucky ended up with Rand Paul.

There are cases where nominating a TP nut case worked, like with Sharron Angle in Nevada, Christine O’Donnell in Delaware or Joe Miller in Alaska. But it does not necessarily mean that they will then lose out to a more reasonable Democratic/independent candidate.

164 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:56:21am
165 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:57:09am

re: #164 darthstar

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So, what you’re saying is we need to repeal Obamacare.//

166 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:57:16am

re: #164 darthstar

I suspect he’s just *acting*.

167 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:58:05am

Who is Alison Weir? I thought she was a romance novelist?

168 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:58:09am

re: #163 Sol Berdinowitz

There are cases where nominating a TP nut case worked, like with Sharron Angle in Nevada, Christine O’Donnell in Delaware or Joe Miller in Alaska. But it does not necessarily mean that they will then lose out to a more reasonable Democratic/independent candidate.

It’s Texas—they’re going to elect a nutcase.

169 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:58:18am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

So, what you’re saying is we need to repeal Obamacare.//

Even if we cannot repeal it, we should hold at least another dozen House votes against it.

170 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:58:35am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

So, what you’re saying is we need to repeal Obamacare.//

Yes, of course. Benghazi to you too.

171 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:59:19am
172 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:59:21am

re: #170 darthstar

Yes, of course. Benghazi to you too.

And we should hold more hearings on that, too…and Fast and Furious and Solyndra and the matter of Obama’s birth certificate, etc…

173 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:59:27am

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

Heresy by NIN.

Sample lyrics:

“Your god is dead. And no one cares. If there is a hell, I’ll see you there. “

174 b.d.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 6:59:51am

Daniel Ellsberg is 82 and if anyone referred to him as elderly it would incite a DudeBro shitstorm.

175 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:00:37am

Fucking hell, how did I miss that India re-criminalized homosexuality?

176 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:01:35am

re: #170 darthstar

Yes, of course. Benghazi to you too.

BENGHAZI!

177 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:02:03am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

BENGHAZI!

Gesundheit.

178 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:02:06am

re: #175 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Fucking hell, how did I miss that India re-criminalized homosexuality?

They never decriminalized it, the law is on the books from colonial times, all their Supreme Court did was to say that the law itself has to be changed, that is not their jurisdiction.

179 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:02:41am

Economic Populism?

I can’t keep-up with all the terms.

I guess it’s not new.

What do I know?

180 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:03:09am

re: #178 Sol Berdinowitz

They never decriminalized it, the law is on the books from colonial times, all their Supreme Court did was to say that the law itself has to be changed, that is not their jurisdiction.

A ton of people in India interpreted the 2009 ruling as the end of criminalization, though, and came out. Now they’re in bigger danger than they were before.

181 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:03:29am

re: #167 Lord of the Pies

Who is Alison Weir? I thought she was a romance novelist?

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IUS, I went there for a semester or two.

Vincent Price spoke while I was there. There was barely standing room in the hallway outside. I heard some reverberations of his voice from the way, way back of the next hallway.

182 Mattand  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:04:28am
183 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:04:33am

re: #175 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Fucking hell, how did I miss that India re-criminalized homosexuality?

You don’t follow Bryan Fischer’s Twitter feed.

184 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:01am

re: #175 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Fucking hell, how did I miss that India re-criminalized homosexuality?

It’s new news, I just read about it yesterday —or that it was going to trial. I can’t remember.

Sad, very sad, news.

185 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:27am

re: #183 Lord of the Pies

You don’t follow Bryan Fischer’s Twitter feed.

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I must have missed when THE PEOPLE agreed with your primitive ass views on homosexuality, Bry.

186 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:30am
187 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:32am

re: #183 Lord of the Pies

You don’t follow Bryan Fischer’s Twitter feed.

[Embedded content]

Oh Bob! How can you subject yourself to that?

188 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:37am

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189 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:41am

SelfieGate proves that Benghazigate was a coverup for Islamohomoindoctrination via UN envirohegemony.

190 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:05:57am

re: #183 Lord of the Pies

You don’t follow Bryan Fischer’s Twitter feed.

India’s Supreme Court upheld a law passed by the elected representatives of the people. We need a Supreme Court which will do the same.

You mean like our Supreme Court did with ACA?

191 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:06:26am

re: #182 Mattand

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Or that we had the President of the NRA blaming movies that came out when shooter of said shooting was a 8 year old for it rather than easy access to guns. Or the many idiots that blame tolerance of gays for these things.

192 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:07:53am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Or that we had the President of the NRA blaming movies that came out when shooter of said shooting was a 8 year old for it rather than easy access to guns. Or the many idiots that blame tolerance of gays for these things.

Or the bipartisan favorite, video games.

193 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:08:05am

How do you reduce a public debt without raising taxes, Rand?
HURR HURR FREE ENTERPRISE ZONES!!!! PROFIT!!!!!!!

194 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:08:59am

re: #190 Sol Berdinowitz

You mean like our Supreme Court did with ACA?

Judicial Review is only illegitimate when it disagrees with you.

195 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:09:11am
196 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:09:39am

re: #192 Varek Raith

The the bipartisan favorite, video games.

Yeah I feel like jumping on a turtle and going to trade school to become a plumber and meeting a princess who always gets kidnapped! But yeah that one unfortunately is a bipartisan favorite going back to Lieberman and Mortal Kombat.

197 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:09:41am

Boom. Take that.

198 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:10:54am

re: #193 Lord of the Pies

How do you reduce a public debt without raising taxes, Rand?
HURR HURR FREE ENTERPRISE ZONES!!!! PROFIT!!!!!!!

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Idiot. You can’t fix a deficit just by cutting spend you pathetic moron. By refusing to even consider tax hikes now, Rand’s pretty much guaranteeing that we’ll have worse tax increases later. Way to go idiot, Ronald Reagan beat you to do that idiocy while you were playing Aqua Buddha.

199 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:10:58am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Yeah I feel like jumping on a turtle and going to trade school to become a plumber and meeting a princess who always gets kidnapped! But yeah that one unfortunately is a bipartisan favorite going back to Lieberman and Mortal Kombat.

Remember when the original Mortal Kombat was considered shockingly violent, and everyone said it would corrupt our children with its graphic intensity?

Ah, how the years go by…

200 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:11:19am

So, a selfie is a picture one takes of one self and shares on social media?

Am I getting that right?

201 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:11:22am

re: #195 darthstar

Is this the payback for the farm law and SNAP being separated instead of the traditional method of passing them together in order to get unified support?

202 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:12:09am

re: #200 FemNaziBitch

So, a selfie is a picture one takes of one self and shares on social media?

Am I getting that right?

Yes. It’s considered less ‘legitimate’ than a picture taken by another person.

Because our society is stupid like that.

203 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:12:55am

re: #195 darthstar

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So how much is a gallon of milk going to cost?

204 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:13:22am
205 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:13:29am

Gawker gets the final anti-Godwin on Raul Castro:

“Raul Castro is a lot of things. He is a sonofabitch, to be sure. But he is no Adolf Hitler. He is not effectual enough to be Adolf Hitler. Even if he had the organizational skills of an Adolf Hitler, which he demonstrably doesn’t, he probably wouldn’t kill millions of the same people in the same way that Hitler did, because Hitler was a special phylum of committed lunatic. Hitler comparisons only expose the comparer’s inability to utilize taxonomic reasoning in the way that humans were designed to, like an immature tree sloth trying vainly to work a bandsaw with its penis.”

206 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:13:30am
207 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:13:35am

re: #202 GunstarGreen

Yes. It’s considered less ‘legitimate’ than a picture taken by another person.

Because our society is stupid like that.

It something that is a lot easier with the advent of digital photography. And is often associated with the sort of thing one posts on adult dating or porno sites.

208 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:13:48am
209 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:15:22am

Texans: If You’re Not Scared, You’re Not Paying Attention

210 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:15:27am

WTFITS I just can’t even
Matt Barber explains to somebody Why He Is Going To Hell

211 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:16:02am

About the Katrina metaphor for Obamacare.

212 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:16:29am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

So how much is a gallon of milk going to cost?

I drink soy milk.

213 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:17:14am

re: #183 Lord of the Pies

You don’t follow Bryan Fischer’s Twitter feed.

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Because a National gay sex ban would TOTALLY have a chance in hell at passing in America.

I have a better idea, let’s ship all the wingnuts to India.

214 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:18:05am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

So how much is a gallon of milk going to cost?

if the price goes up, Reid’s gonna take the blame.

215 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:18:10am

re: #212 darthstar

I drink soy milk.

The Dude abides with soy milk.

216 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:18:18am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Because a National gay sex ban would TOTALLY have a chance in hell at passing in America.

I have a better idea, let’s ship all the wingnuts to India.

Let’s ship them to Russia, they love Puti so much.

217 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:18:19am

Also, at first I misread the name of the band in the thread title as:

“Sharon Jones and the Derp Kings”

218 Bubblehead II  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:18:19am

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

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Looks like something from Calvin and Hobbs.

BTW, morning Lizards from a Chilly (5 degrees) Twin Falls, Idaho.

219 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:18:20am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

So how much is a gallon of milk going to cost?

The question is not how much it is going to cost, but rather how much of that cost will be borne directly by consumers and how much of the rest will be subsidized by tax money.

220 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:19:13am

These morons don’t understand a gay sex ban COULD be passed in America if there were widespread support for it but there’s NOT.

They don’t seem to understand the concept of majority rules.

221 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:19:19am

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

if the price goes up, Reid’s gonna take the blame.

No, if the price goes up the Walmart cashier takes the blame.

222 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:19:25am
223 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:20:06am

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

if the price goes up, Reid’s gonna take the blame.

Did you read the article?

224 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:20:14am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

No, if the price goes up the Walmart cashier takes the blame.

If the price goes up, the Walmart cashier buys a box of powdered milk.

225 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:20:17am

bbl

226 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:20:26am

re: #195 darthstar

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Senator anti-tax isn’t my concern - he’s outnumbered in their.

No, my real concern is whether the speaker of the house can muster enough courage to ignore his anti-tax coalition and let it passed.

227 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:20:56am

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

Ah…you beat me to it.

228 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:20:59am

re: #224 darthstar

If the price goes up, the Walmart cashier buys a box of powdered milk.

On her EBT.

229 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:21:03am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

These morons don’t understand a gay sex ban COULD be passed in America if there were widespread support for it but there’s NOT.

They don’t seem to understand the concept of majority rules.

They think they would totally be The Majority if only the Browns, Blacks, Women, Immigrants, Muslims, Juice, Poors & Librulz were banned from voting.

230 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:21:31am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

No, if the price goes up the Walmart cashier takes the blame.

If the price goes up the Walmart cashier gets fired.

231 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:21:42am

re: #223 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Did you read the article?

Yep. If Reid refuses the extension, then the attack ads will blame him, and people will accept that explanation over something more complicated.

232 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:22:24am

re: #230 Lord of the Pies

If the price goes up the Walmart cashier gets fired.

Should have organized.

233 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:22:25am

re: #231 Dark_Falcon

Yep. If Reid refuses the extension, then the attack ads will blame him, and people will accept that explanation over something more complicated.

Why do you think this is true, when it didn’t work when the GOP tried the same thing over the government shutdown?

234 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:23:38am

re: #232 Decatur Deb

Should have organized.

If the Walmart workers organize, they get fired.

235 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:24:26am

re: #234 Lord of the Pies

If the Walmart workers organize, they get fired.

So did the first ILGWU.

236 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:24:32am

re: #233 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Why do you think this is true, when it didn’t work when the GOP tried the same thing over the government shutdown?

I would argue that it did, to a degree.

There was still a very substantial chunk of people polling in a “everyone is to blame equally” direction. Not totally in the GOP’s favor, but also quite willing to spread the blame around.

237 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:24:55am

re: #234 Lord of the Pies

If the Walmart workers organize, they get fired.

Then they get government surplus milk powder

238 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:25:11am

re: #195 darthstar

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The farm bill was tied to the food stamps (and school lunches) for a long time as sausage politics: people who at best tolerated one liked the other and so both would pass. Republicans who insisted they be separated kept being told if it happened they’d see the farm bill lose soon after.

Once more, we demonstrate that for a majority of the GOP “tomorrow doesn’t matter today.”

239 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:25:38am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

I’d like to see the Satanists take this one all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. I’d say they’ve got a good case.

Absolutely. You open the door to one, you open the door to all. Easy-Peasy Lemon Squeezie.

RBS

240 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:26:30am

re: #239 RealityBasedSteve

Absolutely. You open the door to one, you open the door to all. Easy-Peasy Lemon Squeezie.

RBS

Fundamentalists don’t understand that concept. See also: Louisiana school vouchers.

241 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:26:45am

re: #239 RealityBasedSteve

Absolutely. You open the door to one, you open the door to all. Easy-Peasy Lemon Squeezie.

RBS

And Baby Jesus is by the Festivus Pole because he has a long list of grievances to air at his supposed “followers”.

242 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:27:34am

re: #237 Sol Berdinowitz

Then they get government surplus milk powder

and then they can make cheese from the powered milk… See, it’s multi-purpose.

RBS
Who really doubts you could make cheese from powered milk, not about to try.

243 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:29:48am

re: #242 RealityBasedSteve

and then they can make cheese from the powered milk… See, it’s multi-purpose.

RBS
Who really doubts you could make cheese from powered milk, not about to try.

I am sure you can make spray-can cheese out of it…if that is not what it is made from already.

244 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:30:49am

heh…

245 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:31:45am

re: #240 GunstarGreen

Fundamentalists don’t understand that concept. See also: Louisiana school vouchers.

I remember that…. The utter shock and horror that a Muslim based school was going to get vouchers. It was obvious that that when they made them available to ‘religious based schools’ they KNEW it would only be ‘the good religions’, not them foreign ones.

I’d love to see a ‘humanist (or unitarian)’ school open and get vouchers.

RBS

246 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:32:01am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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I love it when they eat their own over stupid shit.

247 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:32:32am

re: #242 RealityBasedSteve

How to make cheese from powdered milk

248 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:32:57am

Suck it, Republicans

249 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:33:55am

Teh Butthurt It Hurtsss! It Hurtss Precioussss!

250 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:34:06am

re: #247 Sol Berdinowitz

How to make cheese from powdered milk

DAMN YOU!!!! Now I’m going to have to try that this weekend, just out of morbid fascination. I’ll report back on the results (If I survive)

RBS

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:34:13am

moar funniez:

252 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:34:47am

re: #241 Feline Fearless Leader

And Baby Jesus is by the Festivus Pole because he has a long list of grievances to air at his supposed “followers”.

If he can do magic with a loaf of bread and a fish, imagine what he could do with a tower of PBR.

253 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:35:54am

re: #249 Lord of the Pies

Teh Butthurt It Hurtsss! It Hurtss Precioussss!

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This year’s Pulitzer prizes either will or will not be meaningful.

254 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:36:17am

re: #249 Lord of the Pies

Teh Butthurt It Hurtsss! It Hurtss Precioussss!

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So it’s a meaning less award from and meaningless publication that your guy should have gotten, which would have made it important and valued. Am I following you here, bunkie? ‘Cuz I think I detect the slight taste of sour grapes combined with hubris. Enjoy your dish

RBS

255 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:37:22am

I’m out to head to an interview. Back later.

256 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:37:46am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

I’m out to head to an interview. Back later.

Good luck.

257 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:37:58am

re: #250 RealityBasedSteve

DAMN YOU!!!! Now I’m going to have to try that this weekend, just out of morbid fascination. I’ll report back on the results (If I survive)

RBS

Are you gonna batter it and deep-fry it on a stick?

258 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:38:07am

Caveat-FB link to a blog I’m unfamiliar with. It’s aid that the skateboarding school in Afghanistan has the highest (or at least a very high) female participation rate. 40%. In any case it’s kinda cool, I’m sure Malala would approve. Paged.

259 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:38:09am

re: #245 RealityBasedSteve

I remember that…. The utter shock and horror that a Muslim based school was going to get vouchers. It was obvious that that when they made them available to ‘religious based schools’ they KNEW it would only be ‘the good religions’, not them foreign ones.

I’d love to see a ‘humanist (or unitarian)’ school open and get vouchers.

RBS

I still haven’t decided whether I’m amused or enraged that the people that bleat the loudest about “Religious Freedom” don’t actually give one single damn about actual freedom, just the ability to shove their particular flavor of fairy tale down everyone else’s throat.

But then, that’s really just a subset of my distaste for the American Right as a whole. Even if their economic ideas were anything other than a way to prop up the wealthy at the expense of everyone else, I refuse to have anything to do with the kind of obvious hypocrite that crows about being “the party of freedom/liberty/etc.” and then immediately tries to have the government tell me who I can or can’t marry, or which plants I can or can’t smoke.

Believing that the Republican party, or any of its surrogate splinter factions, stands for anything resembling “freedom” requires one to be a complete idiot that is literally incapable of critical thought.

260 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:38:13am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

I’m out to head to an interview. Back later.

Wish you well.

RBS

261 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:39:31am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

I’m out to head to an interview. Back later.

Nail it.

262 Amory Blaine  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:39:58am

I’m going to hoard all the heavy cream bitcoins can buy.

263 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:41:01am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

I’m out to head to an interview. Back later.

Good luck!

264 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:42:28am

re: #257 Sol Berdinowitz

Are you gonna batter it and deep-fry it on a stick?

Your appetizer tonight at the Road Kill Cafe is a delightful powered milk cheese prepared by the chef in the meth lab kitchen and then carefully battered with canned bread crumbs, fried and served on a clean stick of wood. Bon Appetit.

265 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:43:04am

re: #193 Lord of the Pies

266 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:43:58am

re: #262 Amory Blaine

I’m going to hoard all the heavy cream bitcoins can buy.

Mrs. Lawhawk will add chocolate to that and make some seriously creamy goodness chocolate gelt bitcoins.

267 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:44:16am

re: #265 lawhawk

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He never replies but you might get some crazy ass replies from some morons.

268 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:47:26am

IO9 fans around?

Freakishly realistic telemarketing robots are denying they’re robots

SoundCloud

I gotta admit the robot sounds pretty human.

269 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:52:19am

re: #265 lawhawk

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ok, in fairness you can (short term) balance the budget on just tax cuts. The problem is the consequences: See my earlier comment of “tomorrow doesn’t matter today.”

And we’ve cut sufficient at this time that we could, with little negative consequence for about a decade, balance the budget solely by raising taxes on the rich. Add a new bracket at 1 million dollars, make the rate 50%. Well, no negative consequence beyond the loud complaints of people with lots of money to swing around.

But in general, yes, we have to do both.

270 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:53:58am

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Wouldn’t you rather have a budget deal? Ryan and Murray seem to have negotiated a decent one. how about holding off on the trolling so the deal can get passed.

Trolling? I think that was posted in response to Harry Reid buddying up for a photo with John Cornyn…and how that will send the wingnuts into a tizzy. Nothing to do with the budget.

271 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:54:09am
272 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:58:10am

re: #271 Lord of the Pies

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I’ve seen plenty of arguments that the rich are productive.

I find myself asking what productive thing the Walton kids did.

273 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:59:10am

re: #268 Political Atheist

IO9 fans around?

Freakishly realistic telemarketing robots are denying they’re robots

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I gotta admit the robot sounds pretty human.

Because instead of doing synthesized Text-To-Speech (Microsoft Sam, etc.), they hired a woman to sit down and record a set of lines, then configured a bot script to play back those lines instead of responding with canned text and then running it through TTS.

Which is why the bot’s phrases are so repetitive and don’t make sense in context if you’re familiar with how actual humans behave in conversation.

“Are you sure you’re not a robot” is a question that, with an actual human, garners a response along the lines of, “I’m sure that I’m not a robot, sir.” A typical person often responds to the question with some part of the original question phrase as an indication that they’ve heard what you’re saying, a sort of call-back confirmation. But the bot can’t make arbitrary phrases, they only have a handful of canned “I’m a real person” phrases available, so it uses one and then picks something from their ‘excuse library’, i.e. ‘bad connection’. It hears “robot” and assumes that it’s being questioned as to whether or not it’s a bot. Hell, you could probably trick it by asking, “So, what are your thoughts on robots?”, to which it will likely respond that it’s a real person, you must have a bad connection.

Basically, it’s nothing new or interesting. They just decided to try using pre-recorded lines instead of TTS because some people are gullible enough to believe human-sounding lines no matter how strange the conversation is, but TTS is a dead giveaway to even braindead people.

274 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:59:20am

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

Very sad for these young people.

The Homeschool Apostates

They were raised to carry the fundamentalist banner forward and redeem America. But now the Joshua Generation is rebelling.

prospect.org

It’s good to see a growing insurrection against this totalitarian madness. That’s the Achilles’ heel of the Christian right: they don’t have an army or secret police to keep dissenters in line. No wonder Rafael Cruz and others are so desperate to get the organs of state power on their side.

275 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:59:34am

re: #272 kirkspencer

I’ve seen plenty of arguments that the rich are productive.

I find myself asking what productive thing the Walton kids did.

HURR HURR THEY ARE TEH JRRB CREATERS!!!! HOW MENY JRRBZ HAS U CREEYATED???? U JUST SIT AT HOME ALL UNEMPLOYED & MOOCHIN TEH WELFARES & TEH FOOD STAMPZ!!! GET A JRRB U LIBRUL!!!!!!!

Actual response on Teh Twitters.

276 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 7:59:56am

re: #183 Lord of the Pies

You don’t follow Bryan Fischer’s Twitter feed.

India’s Supreme Court upheld a law passed by the elected representatives of the people. We need a Supreme Court which will do the same.

This would be the same Bryan Fischer who howled like a banshee when OUR Supreme Court upheld a law passed by the representatives of the people, called the Affordable Care Act.

277 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:02:39am

Has GG had a meltdown yet because Snowdela wasn’t selected as TIme’s person of the year?

278 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:05:13am

re: #277 Dr. Matt

Has GG had a meltdown yet because Snowdela wasn’t selected as TIme’s person of the year?

Yes.

279 Bubblehead II  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:06:55am

re: #277 Dr. Matt

Has GG had a meltdown yet because Snowdela wasn’t selected as TIme’s person of the year?

He has some butt hurt.

280 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:08:09am

re: #273 GunstarGreen

Getting better fast right? And maybe good enough to fake out the elderly in a scam. At some point sooner rather than later I’d like to see a regulation for disclosure of an automated conversation.

281 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:12:12am

re: #278 Lord of the Pies

re: #279 Bubblehead II

Ah. Awesome. Just getting caught up on the GG butthurt. Amusing.

282 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:13:07am

re: #271 Lord of the Pies

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So, you are anti-American now, eh? Well, aren’t you feeling special?

Do these idiot tweeters ever use their tiny little brains? Oh, wait…flapping your fingers over some keys without any feel for history makes one an expert on “Americanism.”

The way it is going, one day when some of these people realize they are screwing themselves with the help of the 1 percents and helping the one percenter become the 0.25 percenter group they might figure it out.

I still do not get the fascination with tweeting to prove you are a twit. Sigh.

283 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:15:45am

re: #282 ObserverArt

So, you are anti-American now, eh? Well, aren’t you feeling special?

Not as special as I was yesterday when a Twerp called me HURR HURR UR A COMMUNIST!!!!!!!

284 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:16:31am

re: #277 Dr. Matt

Has GG had a meltdown yet because Snowdela wasn’t selected as TIme’s person of the year?

He’s getting there. Denial and sour grapes about TIME being an inconsequential magazine so far.

285 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:18:02am

re: #284 Feline Fearless Leader

And if Snowdela was selected, GG would have claimed that it validated everything……or some other utter bullshit.

286 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:18:03am

re: #268 Political Atheist

IO9 fans around?

Freakishly realistic telemarketing robots are denying they’re robots

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I gotta admit the robot sounds pretty human.


Been there.

Done that.

Mine was a ‘man’.

287 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:18:56am
288 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:20:20am

re: #283 Lord of the Pies

Not as special as I was yesterday when a Twerp called me HURR HURR UR A COMMUNIST!!!!!!!

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say to the limited-thinker, it is all one and the same. If you are anti-American you MUST be pro communist/socialist/fascist/Muslim/Atheist/Humanist/Pro-Obama/etc.

289 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:20:23am

re: #287 Charles Johnson

Sorry to see Jeremy go over the edge. He has done some interesting work, though ya gotta step back from his conclusions a bit.

290 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:20:33am

re: #287 Charles Johnson

Greenwaldians?

Ugh, what a lame name for a group.

291 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:20:50am

re: #268 Political Atheist

IO9 fans around?

Freakishly realistic telemarketing robots are denying they’re robots
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I gotta admit the robot sounds pretty human.

Oh shit. This is the genesis to AI which is the genesis to the Matrix. We’re screwed.

292 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:21:26am
293 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:21:59am

I can’t say I’m the least tiny bit regretful the order probably was just shoot Osama Bin Laden. To me unquestionably the right decision.

294 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:22:50am

re: #286 wrenchwench


Been there.

Done that.

Mine was a ‘man’.

It’s easy to outwit the robots….

Youtube Video

Classic Star Trek.

RBS

295 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:23:15am

re: #293 Political Atheist

I can’t say I’m the least tiny bit regretful the order probably was just shoot Osama Bin Laden. To me unquestionably the right decision.

Why do you say the order was probably just shoot Bin Laden?

296 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:24:30am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

Oh shit. This is the genesis to AI which is the genesis to the Matrix. We’re screwed.

Huh, and I thought Skynet was the problem.

297 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:24:57am

re: #293 Political Atheist

I can’t say I’m the least tiny bit regretful the order probably was just shoot Osama Bin Laden. To me unquestionably the right decision.

I suspect that it was “We would like you to capture him, but if he dies… oh well” with the solid understanding that he WASN’T going to be coming out alive. I believe that the popular term is “Plausible Deniability”. I really have no heartburn on this one at all.

RBS

298 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:25:17am

re: #269 kirkspencer

ok, in fairness you can (short term) balance the budget on just tax cuts. The problem is the consequences: See my earlier comment of “tomorrow doesn’t matter today.”

I think you meant to say spending cuts, not tax cuts in the first sentence, but otherwise I agree.

299 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:25:19am

Okay…here it is.

Glenn Greenwald’s Anti-NSA-Spyware.

The bestest, most tested and proven anti-spyware package available to computer users eva!

Developed by Glenn Greenwald and Eric Snowden with the help of Mother Russia. Only $69.95 available everywhere online.

“Don’t you feel safer?”

300 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:25:59am
301 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:26:13am

re: #295 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Why do you say the order was probably just shoot Bin Laden?

Because more than likely it was. The odds OBL would allow himself to be captured/taken alive were always minimal at best.

302 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:26:14am

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

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CALVIN!!!!!!

303 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:28:49am

re: #294 RealityBasedSteve

It’s easy to outwit the robots….

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Classic Star Trek.

RBS

They did it in Blade Runner, too

304 Mattand  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:29:04am

re: #300 Gus

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One possibility is that Pee-Wee’s comedy is on purpose.

305 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:30:24am

re: #295 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Why do you say the order was probably just shoot Bin Laden?

Speculative. Nothing more. As in “even if”. Which I should have said to begin with.

306 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:31:58am

re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg

Because more than likely it was. The odds OBL would allow himself to be captured/taken alive were always minimal at best.

“Because it more than likely was” is not an answer to the question “Why do you say it probably was”, it is actually just a restatement.

307 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:32:09am

re: #293 Political Atheist

I can’t say I’m the least tiny bit regretful the order probably was just shoot Osama Bin Laden. To me unquestionably the right decision.

Would there have been any other plausible or reasonable way?

308 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:33:00am

re: #306 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Is this distinction important? To me it’s just the commanders call i.e. standing orders from GWB’s days or as Obama chose.

309 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:34:36am

re: #308 Political Atheist

Is this distinction important? To me it’s just the commanders call i.e. standing orders from GWB’s days or as Obama chose.

It would be very different for there to be orders to simply kill him rather than for the force on the ground to exercise discretion, yes.

I think a ‘shoot on sight’ order is defensible, but I don’t see any evidence that’s what we had.

310 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:34:57am

re: #307 Sol Berdinowitz

Would there have been any other plausible or reasonable way?

Sure, we should have just slapped the handcuffs on him, read him his rights, and brought him before a judge then and there. And we should have done the same to Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg. I’m sure there would have been no logistical problem with either.


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311 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:35:08am

re: #307 Sol Berdinowitz

Would there have been any other plausible or reasonable way?

They captured other people from there, so yes.

312 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:35:58am

Worthy of a page for those who page (I don’t):

Ted Cruz Attends Mandela Service to prove he is no racist, walks out on Castro Speech to prove he is still American

313 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:37:02am

re: #312 Sol Berdinowitz

Worthy of a page for those who page (I don’t):

Ted Cruz Attends Mandela Service to prove he is no racist, walks out on Castro Speech to prove he is still American an idiot

314 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:37:22am

re: #311 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

They captured other people from there, so yes.

OBL is where Realpolitik meets our Democratic ideals. It would have too risky to the lives of our Seals to try to take him alive, and frankly, I value the lives of our commandos more than OBL.

315 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:37:46am

re: #312 Sol Berdinowitz

Worthy of a page for those who page (I don’t):

Ted Cruz Attends Mandela Service to prove he is no racist, walks out on Castro Speech to prove he is still American

In other words, all for show.

Does this putz have an honest human bone in his body?

316 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:38:45am
317 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:38:55am

When my finger itches is higher on my priority list than that fucker OBL.

318 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:40:14am

re: #314 Sol Berdinowitz

OBL is where Realpolitik meets our Democratic ideals. It would have too risky to the lives of our Seals to try to take him aline, and frankly, I value the lives of our commandos more than OBL.

But you didn’t set the orders, so what you would have done doesn’t actually matter. I’m talking about actual proof of any sort that there was a ‘shoot on sight’ order for Bin Laden.

If you’re aware of any, I’d be interested in seeing it.

319 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:40:27am

re: #312 Sol Berdinowitz

Worthy of a page for those who page (I don’t):

Ted Cruz Attends Mandela Service to prove he is no racist, walks out on Castro Speech to prove he is still American

The fact that NO ONE saw this happen is amusing.

Translation: “Hey everyone, look at me! LOOK AT ME!”

320 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:40:31am

A lot of elderly unarmed men died on 9/11.

321 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:40:37am

re: #315 ObserverArt

In other words, all for show.

Does this putz have an honest human bone in his body?

Whatever else you can say about him he is a cunning and scheming politician, he obvioulsy has his eyes on big, big things.

322 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:41:11am

Advocacy Journalism

Heh.

323 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:41:26am

re: #314 Sol Berdinowitz

OBL is where Realpolitik meets our Democratic ideals. It would have too risky to the lives of our Seals to try to take him aline, and frankly, I value the lives of our commandos more than OBL.

What about the small government angle…taking him out saved money. Think of all the costs involved with bringing him to America or Gitmo and putting on a big media circus trial. The lawyers, etc.

Amazing, in 2002 everybody wanted him dead, no questions asked. Now?

Must be Obama.

324 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:41:45am

Bin Laden was not unarmed.

325 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:42:02am

re: #318 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

But you didn’t set the orders, so what you would have done doesn’t actually matter. I’m talking about actual proof of any sort that there was a ‘shoot on sight’ order for Bin Laden.

If you’re aware of any, I’d be interested in seeing it.

We can only speculate, but I assume that their chief directive was to assure that OBL did not plot any more terrorist attacks.

326 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:42:20am

re: #321 Sol Berdinowitz

Whatever else you can say about him he is a cunning and scheming politician, he obvioulsy has his eyes on big, big things.

Set to the tune of Peter Gabriel’s “Big Time”.
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327 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:43:52am
328 Lidane  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:43:55am

re: #297 RealityBasedSteve

I really have no heartburn on this one at all.

Yeah, I can’t work up any sympathy or tears for Bin Laden being shot and killed.

329 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:44:04am

This is quite possibly the worst thing I’ve ever read; not the writing—but what the writing reveals. Actually I couldn’t finish reading it.

rollingstone.com

330 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:44:40am

re: #327 Gus

Welcome to the monster you helped create, Paul.

331 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:46:55am

re: #330 Bulworth

Welcome to the monster you helped create, Paul.

They had a chance to silence or at least distance themselves from the most extreme elements of the Tea party, but they were so afraid of being booed at a town hall meeting that they learned to overcome their gag reflex and swallow their own vomit.

332 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:46:58am

re: #327 Gus

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That would be more believable if he had any principles beyond worshiping Ayn Rand.

333 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:47:15am

Jeremy Scahill is photogenic!

334 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:48:15am

re: #332 William Barnett-Lewis

That would be more believable if he had any principles beyond worshiping Ayn Rand.

Well, these conservative groups are trying to sink the budget deal everyone was celebrating last night. It was a bipartisan budget. This isn’t, or should not be, about Ryan.

335 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:48:48am

re: #332 William Barnett-Lewis

That would be more believable if he had any principles beyond worshiping Ayn Rand.

He is now trying to distance himself from her at least.

336 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:49:05am
re: #330 Bulworth
Welcome to the monster you helped create, Paul.

And the Left predicted this would happen 4 years ago when the GOP refused to distance themselves and renounce the Tea Party rallies/hissy fits.

337 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:49:22am
338 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:49:26am

Folks, the SEAL team was ordered to try to capture bin Laden alive. They were not given a “shoot to kill” order.

339 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:49:35am

re: #321 Sol Berdinowitz

Whatever else you can say about him he is a cunning and scheming politician, he obvioulsy has his eyes on big, big things.

Cunning and scheming, depending on view and practice, can also mean dangerous demagogue nutcase.

Nothing about that guy says to me he is out to benefit this country. That may just be my opinion, but I think I can live with it, and I think this country can live without Teddy Cruz.

340 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:49:43am

re: #327 Gus

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Tough shit Paul. You guys pandered to these guys because you cared more about knee-capping President Obama than getting shit done and now you have to deal with it. Sympathy for Ryan and the others who helped create the TP idiocy and now are regretting it, shit little.

341 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:50:32am

Do you want a budget deal or more politics?

342 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:50:38am

re: #335 Sol Berdinowitz

He is now trying to distance himself from her at least.

Right, this was after he discovered she was vehemently anti-religion and around the same time Boehner tabbed him to head the budget committee. Consequence, nah……

343 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:51:15am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Tough shit Paul. You guys pandered to these guys because you cared more about knee-capping President Obama than getting shit done and now you have to deal with it. Sympathy for Ryan and the others who helped create the TP idiocy and now are regretting it, shit little.

Sympathy? He’s part of the BIPARTISAN BUDGET COMPROMISE. It’s not about sympathy.

344 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:52:29am

re: #294 RealityBasedSteve

It’s easy to outwit the robots….

[Embedded content]

Classic Star Trek.

RBS

Goddamn, that was hokey. No wonder I used to wander off while my brother was watching that. Give me TNG any day!

345 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:53:25am

re: #343 Gus

Sympathy? He’s part of the BIPARTISAN BUDGET COMPROMISE. It’s not about sympathy.

Fair enough, but this whole “conservative attacks are a whole new normal” is what I’m talking about here. Ryan had no problem with these guys before but now that they’re threatening HIS power, he’s upset. I’m glad he’s working to get something done but at the same time, I don’t want to hear him bellyaching about a movement and rhetoric that he’s responsible for.

346 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:55:52am

re: #331 Sol Berdinowitz

They had a chance to silence or at least distance themselves from the most extreme elements of the Tea party, but they were so afraid of being booed at a town hall meeting that they learned to overcome their gag reflex and swallow their own vomit.

I think they thought they’d get more out of it than they got. I believe they thought the Tea Party would carry them to the election of Mitt. They gagged and swallowed thinking they could get in office and maybe the Tea Party would go away. After all, they helped set up the Tea Party because Obama, so they may have though, no Obama, no need for the Tea Party.

Funny how things turn out when you create a monster. I guess they never watched any movie with a Frankenstein theme.

GOP science fiction results in GOP science friction.

347 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:57:15am

re: #333 Gus

Jeremy Scahill is photogenic!

He has that close-cropped beard thing going on doesn’t he. Makes him all swarthy and serious…a man to watch and listen too…yo!

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Time for lunch…I have my eyes on a nice chunk of Salmon. A little salad…

348 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:59:33am

re: #341 Gus

Do you want a budget deal or more politics?

‘What do we want?!?!’

‘A budget deal or more politics!!!’

‘When do we want it?!?!?’

‘One right after the other!!!’

349 Dave In Austin  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 8:59:38am

Some gooduns’ today folks…..

Todays Fit

350 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:01:26am

re: #280 Political Atheist

Getting better fast right? And maybe good enough to fake out the elderly in a scam. At some point sooner rather than later I’d like to see a regulation for disclosure of an automated conversation.

That’s rather the point of this sort of thing. It’s dishonest at the core. Again, people who are familiar with human conversation and of moderate intelligence can spot these sorts of bots easy. We know that humans simply don’t repeat a phrase the exact same way with the exact same inflection. We know when a question is being improperly answered, because the machine doesn’t have the ability to dynamically create responses. It’s the Uncanny Valley, just in audio form instead of visual — as a species we’re pretty good at detecting cheats. Where the problem comes in is with people who aren’t in full possession of their faculties, for whatever reason, and yes the elderly tend to be one such group. To such people, the odd and disjointed way that the machine answers just seems like a particularly inept intern reading from a script.

Personally, I don’t think that ANY form of automated telephone advertising should be legal, let alone openly deceptive ones such as this. My phone is my link to family and friends, especially so in times of emergency, as well as my means of contacting emergency services like police and ambulance should the need arise. In my opinion, it is unconscionable to be tying up that resource with advertisements for whatever cheap crap someone happens to be hawking today.

351 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:02:13am

re: #348 wrenchwench

‘What do we want?!?!’

‘A budget deal or more politics!!!’

‘When do we want it?!?!?’

‘One right after the other!!!’

Paul Ryan. He of all people is part of the compromise and they’re still whining. Weird.

352 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:03:51am

re: #349 Dave In Austin

Some gooduns’ today folks…..

Todays Fit

Nice site…gonna save that one.

353 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:07:46am

re: #350 GunstarGreen

Personally, I don’t think that ANY form of automated telephone advertising should be legal, let alone openly deceptive ones such as this. My phone is my link to family and friends, especially so in times of emergency, as well as my means of contacting emergency services like police and ambulance should the need arise. In my opinion, it is unconscionable to be tying up that resource with advertisements for whatever cheap crap someone happens to be hawking today.

Even though we are on the DNC list, there are so many robo-calls coming in on our house landline I just hang up on them.

These scams like to target the elderly because they are low hanging fruit. We are always getting a robocall that starts out “If you are a senior citizen, YOU MUST listen to this message!” I don’t know what the rest of the message is because 1) I’m not a senior citizen 2) I hang up. But there are a lot of elderly who were raised to respect authority who must think they are obligated to listen to the pitch.

354 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:09:08am

Whackobirds is the “new normal.”

355 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:09:12am

re: #324 Charles Johnson

Bin Laden was not unarmed.

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ELDERLY? 54 is ELDERLY? Fuck you, Jeremy Scahill!!!

“I’m not old! I’m only 37 56!”

356 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:10:36am

A Dudebro and a Wingnut are duking it out on my timeline. It’s kind of entertaining but if I get bored I can block them both.

357 blueraven  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:10:48am

wow


politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

(CNN) - Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tennessee, said Tuesday that law enforcement officials were searching the Washington home of his chief of staff, Ryan Loskarn, regarding allegations involving child pornography.

358 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:11:28am

re: #355 GeneJockey

ELDERLY? 54 is ELDERLY? Fuck you, Jeremy Scahill!!!

“I’m not old! I’m only 37 56!”

Ageism!

359 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:11:45am

Just blocked the wingnut for getting into personal insults.

360 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:11:51am

re: #357 blueraven

wow

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

Yikes.

361 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:12:21am

“Old” is a relative term.

When i was 18, I considered 30 “old”

Now that I’m 32 I think of 65 as “old”

I’m sure when I’m 60 then 80 will be “old”

362 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:12:44am

re: #353 Lord of the Pies

Even though we are on the DNC list, there are so many robo-calls coming in on our house landline I just hang up on them.

These scams like to target the elderly because they are low hanging fruit. We are always getting a robocall that starts out “If you are a senior citizen, YOU MUST listen to this message!” I don’t know what the rest of the message is because 1) I’m not a senior citizen 2) I hang up. But there are a lot of elderly who were raised to respect authority who must think they are obligated to listen to the pitch.

I used to love the ones “We have an important call for you… Please remain on the line”…. if it was so important you wouldn’t have called me and then stuck me in the queue. There would be somebody there.

I also got one one time when I had a land-line on my answering machine. A 15 minute sales pitch for something, interrupted occasional to say “If you would like to speak to a sales associate, Please press “1”….” It truly was “Have Your Machine Call My Machine”

RBS

363 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:13:38am

re: #357 blueraven

wow

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

It never fails to amaze me how many professionals CP stings nab Doctors, lawyers, teachers, prominent businessmen, elected officials, even law enforcement.

I wonder why otherwise sane, successful, competent people are so susceptible to this kind of illegal activity?

364 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:13:38am

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

“Old” is a relative term.

When i was 18, I considered 30 “old”

Now that I’m 32 I think of 65 as “old”

I’m sure when I’m 60 then 80 will be “old”

Ha, I’m 26. Part of my walking to work commute involves going through part of George Washington University’s campus. Makes me feel old. i don’t mind though. I’m at a good age.

365 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:13:58am

re: #362 RealityBasedSteve

I used to love the ones “We have an important call for you… Please remain on the line”….

Debt collections like to use that one.

366 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:14:16am

Sign language translator at Nelson Mandela’s memorial was a FAKE

The RWNJs will somehow make this about Obama in 5…4…3…2…..

367 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:14:45am

The Dudbro about to get blocked now.

368 Lidane  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:15:05am

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder why otherwise sane, successful, competent people are so susceptible to this kind of illegal activity?

Because they’re idiots that think they’re bulletproof and that no one will ever catch them.

369 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:15:36am

The Dudebro actually very polite and supplies some good links so I’ll keep him for now.

370 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:17:19am
371 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:18:08am

re: #370 Lord of the Pies

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Exactly.

372 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:18:32am
373 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:19:37am
374 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:20:06am

re: #368 Lidane

Because they’re idiots that think they’re bulletproof and that no one will ever catch them.

I’m sure that’s part of it, but I mean, how do reasonably sane people develop an interest in CP in the first place? I don’t understand why it’s such a widespread problem.

Seems like most rational people would find it revolting.

375 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:20:41am


U.S. charitable foundation said Wednesday that it was the anonymous bidder which paid $530,000 for 24 Native American masks, and will return them to the Hopi Nation in Arizona and the San Carlos Apache tribe.

“These are not trophies to have on one’s mantel,” said Gregory Annenberg Weingarten, director of the Los Angeles-based Annenberg Foundation. He added: “They do not belong in auction houses or private collections.”

Twenty-one masks are being returned to the Hopis and three to the San Carlos Apaches.

[…]

The masks are considered sacred and are not meant to be on display or featured in pictures.

So, no pictures, but the rest of the article is at the link in the tweet.

376 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:20:51am
377 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:21:37am


This isn’t going to end well if they get their way. Levin and the rest of the right wing is trying to roll back the safety net by any means necessary, and to do so they’re now looking at ways of circumventing the US Congress, which is essentially deadlocked and wouldn’t be able to take up actions that would amend the US Constitution in any meaningful manner. So, they’ve turned to the states as the progenitors of amendments that would then push through the conservative agenda.

Sneaky bastards, and there’s enough state legislatures and governors who are GOPers that this strategy may have legs.

378 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:23:00am

re: #377 lawhawk

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This isn’t going to end well if they get their way. Levin and the rest of the right wing is trying to roll back the safety net by any means necessary, and to do so they’re now looking at ways of circumventing the US Congress, which is essentially deadlocked and wouldn’t be able to take up actions that would amend the US Constitution in any meaningful manner. So, they’ve turned to the states as the progenitors of amendments that would then push through the conservative agenda.

Sneaky bastards, and there’s enough state legislatures and governors who are GOPers that this strategy may have legs.

Calhoun wannabe IMO.

379 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:25:25am

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

It never fails to amaze me how many professionals CP stings nab Doctors, lawyers, teachers, prominent businessmen, elected officials, even law enforcement.

I wonder why otherwise sane, successful, competent people are so susceptible to this kind of illegal activity?

They’re used to abusing helpless people. Turns out we only care about the children though.

380 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:26:49am

re: #377 lawhawk

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This isn’t going to end well if they get their way. Levin and the rest of the right wing is trying to roll back the safety net by any means necessary, and to do so they’re now looking at ways of circumventing the US Congress, which is essentially deadlocked and wouldn’t be able to take up actions that would amend the US Constitution in any meaningful manner. So, they’ve turned to the states as the progenitors of amendments that would then push through the conservative agenda.

Sneaky bastards, and there’s enough state legislatures and governors who are GOPers that this strategy may have legs.

Mark Levin speaking on behalf of the land of make believe. What a weirdo.

381 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:27:06am
382 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:28:15am

At least the AT&T Park Seagulls are taking it in stride.

383 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:28:55am

re: #377 lawhawk

Ugh, how many IOKIYAR examples can you find there?

I guess it’s official now. They don’t give a RAT’S ASS about the actual Constitution.

384 Uncle Obdicut  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:31:00am

For old picture buffs, this site is amazing:

shorpy.com

385 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:31:12am


Backstory on this exchange involving Rep Shimkus:

thinkprogress.org

The comment came during an exchange about the effect of preventive services on health care premiums under the Affordable Care Act. Sebelius disputed Rep. John Shimkus’ (R-IL) claim that offering prevention benefits without cost sharing would increase beneficiaries’ health care expenses. “There is no free lunch, Madam Secretary!,” Shimkus charged. “When you mandate coverage, it is rolled directly on premiums, premiums increase, that is paying for these services!” Sebelius responded by arguing that investing in prevention could decrease costs down the road.

Shimkus grew visibly agitated by her explanation and tried to compare Sebelius to the leaders of North Korea. But rather than referencing the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), Shimkus likened the Secretary to the “Republic of Korea” or South Korea, America’s ally in the region. “Alright, I got it. We’re just going to agree to disagree. It’s like talking to the Republic of Korea or something,” he said.

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) loudly objected, saying that Shimkus should at least allow Sebelius to answer his questions. “I do not have to allow her to answer the question!” Shimkus screamed in reply.

That’s right folks. Invite someone to speak and give testimony, but don’t allow them to answer. Might send the wrong message.

Add to that Shimkus’ geographic illiteracy, and you’ve got a typical low-information GOP Representative who doesn’t care about facts or logic as long as he’s on a roll…

386 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:31:46am

Pink Floyd’s Rogers Waters: Comparisons between Israel and Nazis ‘crushingly obvious’

KYS Roger.

387 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:34:13am

re: #385 lawhawk

If we lived in a just nation, he would have been ejected from the hearing and formally censured.

Too bad our congress is currently more interested in a witch hunt.

388 Dr. Matt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:36:30am
Lamar Alexander top aide investigated for child porn
politico.com

Just another distraction from Obamacare

389 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:36:54am

re: #386 Gus

KYS = Kill yourself?

390 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:37:45am

re: #389 Eclectic Cyborg

KYS = Kill yourself?

Yes.

391 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:39:00am
392 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:41:00am

re: #377 lawhawk

This isn’t going to end well if they get their way. Levin and the rest of the right wing is trying to roll back the safety net by any means necessary, and to do so they’re now looking at ways of circumventing the US Congress, which is essentially deadlocked and wouldn’t be able to take up actions that would amend the US Constitution in any meaningful manner. So, they’ve turned to the states as the progenitors of amendments that would then push through the conservative agenda.

Sneaky bastards, and there’s enough state legislatures and governors who are GOPers that this strategy may have legs.

The question may not be getting their way. I’d be curious who Levin knows or works with that will profit from the drive attempting to make it so. Nothing preventing groups from making a nice bundle helping others chase something they will not be able to catch.

393 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:41:50am
394 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:42:52am

re: #393 Gus

[Embedded content]

Read the responses.

395 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:43:04am

re: #392 Feline Fearless Leader

ALEC is involved. And they’ve been successful in other areas on passing conservative-leaning bills in legislatures, particularly on abortion rights and voter ID.

396 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:44:39am

re: #393 Gus

Can you tell what city has the red x on the map?

397 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:46:08am

re: #396 Killgore Trout

Can you tell what city has the red x on the map?

Slow connection here and have adblock on.

398 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:47:37am

re: #396 Killgore Trout

Can you tell what city has the red x on the map?

Looks like it’s over some text. Don’t know.

399 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:51:12am

re: #398 Gus

Looks like it’s over some text. Don’t know.

I can’t tell either. Oh well, it seems he has a new book out and is looking for attention.

400 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:52:20am

re: #399 Killgore Trout

I can’t tell either. Oh well, it seems he has a new book out and is looking for attention.

Yeah. He’s mad that it’s not getting the attention he wanted. Another big ego like Greenwald.

401 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:52:22am

re: #385 lawhawk

Stay classy, GOP

402 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:53:32am

re: #377 lawhawk

So they want to amend the Constitution they say they adore in an unconstitutional manner?

403 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:53:51am

re: #399 Killgore Trout

I can’t tell either. Oh well, it seems he has a new book out and is looking for attention.

But it’s OK to make fun out of religious Jews. If you know what I mean.

404 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:55:24am

re: #396 Killgore Trout

Can you tell what city has the red x on the map?

Don’t think it’s a city. It sort of looks like the blue/grey shaded area is the Dead Sea, and the red marker is over the label for the Dead Sea. It further appears that the blue/grey shade running N/S from the larger area is the Jordan River.

405 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:56:35am
406 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 9:57:06am

re: #336 Dr. Matt

It’s like religous fundamentalism—ultimately the fault-finding and purity tests turn inward and the community becomes an exercise in emotional cannabalism.

407 Lidane  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:02:27am

Proof that derp over the Obama selfie at the Mandela memorial isn’t just an RWNJ thing:


I’ve already ranted about this on my FB and on NPR’s page, too. It’s such a ridiculous nontroversy. And it’s an indictment of the entire American meda, honestly.

408 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:03:30am

Greenwald, Snowden, Waters, Blumenthal, Scahill… I’m about ready to throw up now. Dudebro morning with a twist.

409 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:05:06am

re: #338 Charles Johnson

Folks, the SEAL team was ordered to try to capture bin Laden alive. They were not given a “shoot to kill” order.

Nor would they have been able to execute it under the UCMJ.

410 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:05:09am

re: #396 Killgore Trout

Can you tell what city has the red x on the map?

Not a city. It’s somewhere in the waters of the Gulf of Aqaba.

411 Gus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:05:36am

bbl

412 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:07:30am

re: #403 Gus

But it’s OK to make fun out of religious Jews. If you know what I mean.

He should have stuck with hating white American evangelicals. it’s more socially acceptable.

413 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:07:54am

re: #404 lawhawk

Don’t think it’s a city. It sort of looks like the blue/grey shaded area is the Dead Sea, and the red marker is over the label for the Dead Sea. It further appears that the blue/grey shade running N/S from the larger area is the Jordan River.

ah, that looks like it. Nice catch.

414 geoffm33  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:10:18am

Wesley is also a Boston Globe columnist:


Link behind paywall, here are some choice quotes:

WHEN A racist slur was spray-painted on the home of a biracial Lunenburg High School football player last month, the reaction was predictable.
…
Then, after two weeks of eating their hearts out over the apparent bigotry festering in their midst, Lunenburg’s residents learned that the “hate crime” was most likely a hoax. The football team had nothing to do with the odious graffiti painted on the house, police said. Instead they suspect that the boy’s mother, Andrea Brazier, may have painted the racist taunt herself.

OK, shit like this happens (if true). Jacoby then cites a few other faked hate crimes:

nj.com
legalinsurrection.com
nydailynews.com

So he continues:

Hatred and bigotry really do exist, of course. Every society has some lowlifes and bullies. But by and large, America’s racist past is dead and gone. This is not a nation that conspires to keep blacks and women down, let alone to terrorize or humiliate them. Anyone seeking genuinely racist or misogynistic hate crimes in America today is likely to be disappointed. It is precisely because America is no longer steeped in racism that those who believe it is must resort to fakery.

Is he truly positing that the number of faked-hate-crimes far outweigh true hate crimes?

415 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:11:13am

Time’s person of the year pick of Pope Francis is a nice choice.

416 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:12:10am

re: #415 Killgore Trout

Time’s person of the year pick of Pope Francis is a nice choice.

I’m happy with it, if only to see Glenn Greenwald flipping out.

417 geoffm33  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:12:34am

re: #414 geoffm33

And holy-fuck the only thing worse than the article is the comments.

418 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:13:20am

re: #414 geoffm33

Wesley is also a Boston Globe columnist:

[Embedded content]


Link behind paywall, here are some choice quotes:

OK, shit like this happens (if true). Jacoby then cites a few other faked hate crimes:

nj.com
legalinsurrection.com
nydailynews.com

So he continues:

Is he truly positing that the number of faked-hate-crimes far outweigh true hate crimes?

Yeah pretty much. Wingnuts like to point to fake hate crimes and go HURR HURR THERE ALL FAKE!!!!11!!!

419 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:15:12am
420 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:16:11am

re: #417 geoffm33

And holy-fuck the only thing worse than the article is the comments.

Internet comments, where the mere asshole becomes a King Douche. Yes, hoaxes like the aforementioned do happen but to act like fake hate crimes are the norm and to ignore very real hate crimes that still occur is absurd.

421 geoffm33  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:20:02am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Internet comments, where the mere asshole becomes a King Douche. Yes, hoaxes like the aforementioned do happen but to act like fake hate crimes are the norm and to ignore very real hate crimes that still occur is absurd.

Yeah, I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised. The comments are always worse.

422 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:23:06am
423 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:24:44am

Aid to Syria rebels groups officially ends.
US and UK suspend non-lethal aid for Syria rebels
Although it was never officially announced I suspect stopping aid to rebel groups was probably part of the chemical weapons and Iran nuclear deals. Maybe rebel groups were too problematic anyways but I can’t say I’m happy about Assad’s new lease on life.

424 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:26:23am

When righteous is not righteous enough. Why do these people have trouble with busses?

425 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:29:15am

re: #423 Killgore Trout

Aid to Syria rebels groups officially ends.
US and UK suspend non-lethal aid for Syria rebels
Although it was never officially announced I suspect stopping aid to rebel groups was probably part of the chemical weapons and Iran nuclear deals. Maybe rebel groups were too problematic anyways but I can’t say I’m happy about Assad’s new lease on life.

My desire to see Assad gone notwithstanding, it’s not our fight. From the sounds of it, the rebels tended to fall anywhere from “ineffectual” to “worse than the regime.”

426 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:31:05am
427 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:32:58am

Badass priest in Kiev
Image: 8818789_original.jpg

428 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:35:19am

re: #427 Killgore Trout

Badass priest in Kiev
Image: 8818789_original.jpg

Harvey Keitel would be proud.

429 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:36:13am

re: #427 Killgore Trout

Badass priest in Kiev
Image: 8818789_original.jpg

“I kick ass for the Lord!”

430 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:39:04am

re: #428 Eclectic Cyborg

Harvey Keitel would be proud.

lol

431 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:40:02am

re: #424 Sol Berdinowitz

When righteous is not righteous enough. Why do these people have trouble with busses?

The argument appears to be that Google and similar tech companies have declined to invest in the city’s public transportation, and instead supplied their employees with their own private busses.

Calling it a ‘two-tier system’ is asinine, though. Every system in this country has tiers. That’s how capitalism works. The wealthy guy drives a brand-new $1M+ Ferrari, you drive a $3K Civic from 10 years ago. The wealthy guy lives in a sprawling McMansion, you live in a studio apartment in a half-crumbling building. What’s so surprising about busses being the same way?

432 Mattand  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:40:07am

re: #426 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus Christ, are there any pictures of the actual ceremony? I’m getting the impression that every frickin’ camera there was aimed at Obama.

433 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:43:07am

WTFITS—Oh a MAN Tweeted this.

434 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:44:49am
435 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:46:27am

re: #434 darthstar

#9 on the Bottom 10 List Of Worst Christmas Songs Ever.

436 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:46:57am

General Sherman, where are you when we need you?

437 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:47:31am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Jesus Christ! That finger is ENORMOUS!!!

438 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:48:21am

Serious lake effect snows are beginning to pile up along the Southern Tier NY.

Of particular note:

.OSWEGO COUNTY…
9 E LACONA 28.0 530 AM 12/11 COCORAHS
REDFIELD 24.5 700 AM 12/11 OWLES
3 NE BENNETTS BRIDGE 15.0 700 AM 12/11 CO-OP OBSERVER
1 NE PULASKI 14.0 800 AM 12/11 COCORAHS
PULASKI 14.0 1145 PM 12/10 TRAINED SPOTTER
4 SSE LACONA 12.7 700 AM 12/11 COCORAHS
SANDY CREEK 10.2 700 AM 12/11 OWLES
5 ESE OSWEGO 1.2 600 AM 12/11 COCORAHS
4 SSW MEXICO 1.0 930 AM 12/11 COCORAHS

If you’re in the snow bands, you’re getting hammered. Just a bit outside, and you get… nothing. We’re going to be in this pattern until the weekend because of the arctic high pressure and winds coming in off the lakes. Skiers/snowboarders will delight, but it means folks will have to take care driving around (as if they shouldn’t do that all the time).

439 klys  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:50:10am

re: #431 GunstarGreen

The argument appears to be that Google and similar tech companies have declined to invest in the city’s public transportation, and instead supplied their employees with their own private busses.

Calling it a ‘two-tier system’ is asinine, though. Every system in this country has tiers. That’s how capitalism works. The wealthy guy drives a brand-new $1M+ Ferrari, you drive a $3K Civic from 10 years ago. The wealthy guy lives in a sprawling McMansion, you live in a studio apartment in a half-crumbling building. What’s so surprising about busses being the same way?

Also, public transportation in the Bay Area is not exactly fantastic. The system that would be most useful for Google employees heading down to the Mountain View campus from, say, SF, is Caltrain. But Caltrain is the bastard stepchild that relies on what little it can scrounge from the budgets of BART and …pretty sure there’s at least one other agency involved. So there’s been lots of issues with scheduling, with financial solvency, all that fun stuff.

The Caltrain station in SF is also all the way on the east side of the city. Good luck if you live more central/west.

BART doesn’t run far enough down the peninsula, normal busing isn’t going to work because you’re talking about transiting through 3 counties and at least 2 public transit systems from a busing viewpoint. And traffic on 101 doesn’t need any more help to be shitty.

440 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:51:05am

I got called away for two hours and there is no new thread?

441 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:51:30am
442 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:51:30am

what are we talking about now?

443 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:51:31am

re: #433 Lord of the Pies

WTFITS—Oh a MAN Tweeted this.

[Embedded content]

I need to find an image of an Arabic wedding ceremony.

“These are a group of (random set of numbers) year old living human beings. Most ‘collateral damage’ happens right about now. Still consider yourself ‘pro-life’?”

444 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:52:02am

re: #438 lawhawk

Serious lake effect snows are beginning to pile up along the Southern Tier NY.

Of particular note:

If you’re in the snow bands, you’re getting hammered. Just a bit outside, and you get… nothing. We’re going to be in this pattern until the weekend because of the arctic high pressure and winds coming in off the lakes. Skiers/snowboarders will delight, but it means folks will have to take care driving around (as if they shouldn’t do that all the time).

I lived in Ithaca for a couple years. When I got there, I heard that everybody did cross country skiing, so I got myself a set of skis, poles, and boots. ONE TIME in TWO YEARS was there enough snow to X-C ski on. Meanwhile, we’d hear about Syracuse an hour away, getting FEET of the stuff routinely,

445 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:52:29am

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

what are we talking about now?

WORST EVER CHRISTMAS SONGS.

446 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:53:17am

re: #438 lawhawk

Serious lake effect snows are beginning to pile up along the Southern Tier NY.

Of particular note:

If you’re in the snow bands, you’re getting hammered. Just a bit outside, and you get… nothing. We’re going to be in this pattern until the weekend because of the arctic high pressure and winds coming in off the lakes. Skiers/snowboarders will delight, but it means folks will have to take care driving around (as if they shouldn’t do that all the time).

I am outside the snow band in East Egypt, Chicago. In some ways it sucks, cause we miss everything.

447 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:54:45am

re: #364 HappyWarrior

Ha, I’m 26. Part of my walking to work commute involves going through part of George Washington University’s campus. Makes me feel old. i don’t mind though. I’m at a good age.

Ha, you won’t be 26 for long! Some day you’ll be OldWarrior.

Now get off my lawn!

///

448 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:55:21am

re: #445 Lord of the Pies

WORST EVER CHRISTMAS SONGS.

Youtube Video

449 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:55:24am

re: #445 Lord of the Pies

WORST EVER CHRISTMAS SONGS.

Ha! I’ve never heard even ONE of those. I’m a lucky guy, I guess.

My nominee for BEST Christmas Song ever, one we sing every year in the Smith Jockey family, is “Deck Us All With Boston Charlie”.

450 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:55:55am

re: #449 GeneJockey

Ha! I’ve never heard even ONE of those. I’m a lucky guy, I guess.

My nominee for BEST Christmas Song ever, one we sing every year in the Smith Jockey family, is “Deck Us All With Boston Charlie”.

My Dear Ole Dad used to sing that. —when he was drunk.

451 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 10:58:19am

50 DUMBEST THINGS RIGHT-WINGERS SAID IN 2013

452 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:00:26am

re: #449 GeneJockey

Ha! I’ve never heard even ONE of those. I’m a lucky guy, I guess.

My nominee for BEST Christmas Song ever, one we sing every year in the Smith Jockey family, is “Deck Us All With Boston Charlie”.

Fa la la la la, and Kalamazoo.

Did I remember that right?

453 darthstar  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:00:50am

re: #445 Lord of the Pies

WORST EVER CHRISTMAS SONGS.

I actually think this is a pretty good Xmas song.
Youtube Video

454 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:02:38am
“There are many other states that embrace those conservative values, the approach that we’ve taken over the years. I’m in one today, in Florida.” - Texas Gov. Rick Perry, delivering a speech in … Louisiana
455 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:03:12am

re: #440 FemNaziBitch

I got called away for two hours and there is no new thread?

We didn’t want to start one without you….

RBS
Sucking-up Without Shame

456 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:04:19am

re: #437 GeneJockey

Jesus Christ! That finger is ENORMOUS!!!

Yea, that’s Phil the Proctologist.

RBS

457 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:06:07am
“When a physician removes a child from a woman, that is the largest organ in a body.” - Alabama state Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin

Wait, the fetus, or the doctor is the largest organ?

458 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:07:03am

re: #452 wrenchwench

Fa la la la la, and Kalamazoo.

Did I remember that right?

It’s actually “Walla Walla Wash, and Kalamazoo!”

There are apparently 6 verses, only the first of which we sing. Might need to change that! Then again, haw many people know the SECOND verse of the Star Spangled Banner?

459 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:07:53am

re: #456 RealityBasedSteve

Yea, that’s Phil the Proctologist.

RBS

Phil McCavity?

Or perhaps Phil McCavity Search?

460 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:09:06am

re: #457 FemNaziBitch

Wait, the fetus, or the doctor is the largest organ?

She’s never looked at any anatomy books, has she?

461 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:11:08am

re: #460 GeneJockey

She’s never looked at any anatomy books, has she?

Probably considers them pornography.

462 leftynyc  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:11:47am

re: #77 Varek Raith

Oklahoma lawmakers: No Satanist monument because ‘this is a faith-based state’

Lol.

Exactly what the satanists were hoping. Now they get to take the case all the way to the supremes who get to decide which are “established religions”. This could be fun.

463 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:12:47am

re: #462 leftynyc

Exactly what the satanists were hoping. Now they get to take the case all the way to the supremes who get to decide which are “established religions”. This could be fun.

Fiendishly clever, these satanists.

464 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:13:43am

re: #463 GeneJockey

Fiendishly clever, these satanists.

I bet they laughed devilishly when they heard the news.

RBS

465 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:15:12am

re: #464 RealityBasedSteve

I bet they laughed devilishly when they heard the news.

RBS

What do you call an Oklahoma Satanist, anyway - Beelzebubba?

466 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:15:15am

re: #433 Lord of the Pies

WTFITS—Oh a MAN Tweeted this.

[Embedded content]

Hmmm. No.

Image: a_101708849.jpg

It’s a half inch—about the size of a blueberry. Hardly a baby at all.

467 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:21:52am

re: #465 GeneJockey

What do you call an Oklahoma Satanist, anyway - Beelzebubba?

Yep. and his girlfriend is Lilith-Sue

468 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:23:22am

re: #467 RealityBasedSteve

Yep. and his girlfriend is Lilith-Sue

Sissy, the girls are all Sissy.

469 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:30:37am

re: #458 GeneJockey

It’s actually “Walla Walla Wash, and Kalamazoo!”

There are apparently 6 verses, only the first of which we sing. Might need to change that! Then again, haw many people know the SECOND verse of the Star Spangled Banner?

All the Spetsnatz infiltrators.

470 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 11:43:53am

re: #19 HoosierHoops

Up for over an hour…I’m doing big time coffee, packing and playing with the dog. He is so dumb..I love him.. I can just jack him up at 5am.
So..What is the first news story I hear before even the weather? ( Weather sucks )
50% of all woman polled this morning would rather give up sex than their cell phone for a month. Men.. This is your failure..
With all the passion in the world..You came in second to a phone..
Shit..It’s so funny…
What was that 60’s song? Try a little tenderness?
It is so funny..Half of all men lose out to texting..

As performed by Otis Redding - “Try A Little Tenderness”
(The song was written in 1932)

Ooh she may be weary
And young girls they do get weary
Wearing that same old shaggy dress yeah
But when she gets weary
You gotta try a little tenderness yeah yeah

You know she’s waiting
Just anticipating
The thing that she’ll never, never, never, never possess yeah yeah
But while she’s there waiting, and without them
Try just a little bit of tenderness
That’s all you gotta do

471 leftynyc  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 12:45:47pm

re: #137 Lord of the Pies

[Embedded content]

THAT’ll win over so many Americans. I would have put a bullet in his head personally and know many that don’t support the death penalty who would have done the same.


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