And Again: “Active Shooting Situation” at Colorado High School

On the anniversary of the Newtown massacre
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Here we go again: Denver Police Respond to Active Shooting Situation at Arapahoe High School.

CENTENNIAL, Colo. (CBS4) - Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson says there’s an active shooting situation with possibly two victims at Arapahoe High School.

A scene that’s become horribly familiar recently:

UPDATE at 12/13/13 1:01:13 pm

Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson announced that the shooter came to the high school looking for a specific teacher, who was informed of the situation and fled. After shooting two students, he committed suicide.

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1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:50:12pm
2 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:52:08pm
3 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:55:55pm

Was the shooter “inspired” by the anniversary of Newtown?

4 blueraven  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:56:01pm

Mixed reports now that it may be a suicide.

5 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:56:58pm

“It’s too soon to talk about common sense gun regulations!!!!”

6 Bulworth  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:57:31pm

This G-d damn muthereffin shit again. G-dammit.

7 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:57:37pm

Shooting suspect dead of self-inflicted gunshot wound, per MSNBC.

8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:58:21pm

Sheriff says the shooter committed suicide - came to the school looking for a specific teacher.

9 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:59:18pm

I wish to register that I’m not politicizing this current school shooting, but am responding to the previous school shooting, and the anniversary of the Newtown massacre in that Congress and Americans in general need to reconsider the easy access to firearms that makes these mass casualty events far too common.

That means addressing easy access to weapons that are designed to maximize firing rates, high capacity clips/magazines/ammo holding devices, licensing/registration, and mental health aspects.

But for the easy access to firearms, these kinds of situations would be extremely uncommon. And that is reinforced by the fact that so many of the mass shootings involve legally-owned firearms.

Mass shootings - defined when 3 or more people are shot, occur like clockwork. At least one every two weeks. But that’s a small percentage of the overall fatalities and injuries due to firearms use in the US overall.

Other facts and statistics relating to firearms in the US.

10 erik_t  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:03:10pm

re: #9 lawhawk

I wish to register that I’m not politicizing this current school shooting, but am responding to the previous school shooting, and the anniversary of the Newtown massacre in that Congress and Americans in general need to reconsider the easy access to firearms that makes these mass casualty events far too common.

I don’t remember when X HAPPENED, LET’S TRY MEASURES TO STOP X became political.

When the Exxon Valdez crashed in Alaska in 1989, were increased safety measures for supertankers political?
When the major blackout happened in the Northeast in 2003, did grid maintenance become political?
When the I-35 bridge in Minnesota collapsed in 2007, was replacing it and rechecking the previous design political?

Such bullshit.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:04:08pm

If only all the teachers were armed.

//

12 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:05:03pm

re: #10 erik_t

I don’t remember when X HAPPENED, LET’S TRY MEASURES TO STOP X became political.

When the Exxon Valdez crashed in Alaska in 1989, were increased safety measures for supertankers political?
When the major blackout happened in the Northeast in 2003, did grid maintenance become political?
When the I-35 bridge in Minnesota collapsed in 2007, was replacing it and rechecking the previous design political?

Such bullshit.

‘round the time the NRA ceased being an organization of gun owners wishing to promote gun safety and responsibility and converted into a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

13 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:05:47pm
14 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:09:39pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Heh. Abdul Tareeq bin Billy-Ray Jim Bob.

Great……hillbilly jihadis. Just what the world needs.

*facepalm*

15 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:10:20pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Why does the press always seem to rush to find the most demeaning picture they can of a suspect? Is it too long a wait for official mugshots?

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:10:32pm

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Abdul Tareeq bin Billy-Ray Jim Bob.

Great……hillbilly jihadis. Just what the world needs.

*facepalm*

Muhammad Shabbab Al-Duggar

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:11:02pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Mugshots are public record and easy to find.

18 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:11:22pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Muhammad Shabbab Al-Duggar

Cletus Abdurrahman al-Bubba.

19 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:12:16pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Mugshots are public record and easy to find.

If previously arrested for a crime. If not, then they have to wait til the latest brain trust has been drug to the station and booked.

20 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:13:21pm

Billy Ray Cyrus Al-maliki

21 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:17:20pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Billy Ray Cyrus Al-maliki

Y’all got halal Slim Jims?

22 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:18:03pm

Jim-Bob Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb.

23 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:18:43pm

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Y’all got halal Slim Jims?

Ooooooooh yeah!!

24 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:19:05pm

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Y’all got halal Slim Jims?

lolol

25 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:22:40pm

Billions more will be thrown at school security and LE while America will continue to ignore the symptoms, causes, etc.

26 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:23:51pm

re: #25 Gus

Billions more will be thrown at school security and LE while America will continue to ignore the symptoms, causes, etc.

Another run on AR-15s is almost assured.

27 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:25:11pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Another run on AR-15s is almost assured.

Oh yeah; pretty much guaranteed.

28 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:27:55pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Another run on AR-15s is almost assured.

Apparently this was a shotgun. But yeah. We better figure out what to do in Syria first.

29 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:28:43pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Another run on AR-15s is almost assured.

As well as another ammo shortage.

30 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:29:27pm

Kansas Man Charged With Trying to Explode Bomb at Airport

The complaint said Loewen left a letter dated Dec. 11 that said, “By the time you read this I will — if everything went as planned — have been martyred in the path of Allah.” It said he added, “I expect to be called a terrorist (which I am), a psychopath and a homicidal maniac.”
….
In October, the complaint said, the FBI official asked if Loewen would be willing to plant “some type of device.”

“Am I interested? Yes,” Loewen responded, according to the complaint. “I still need time to think about it, but I can’t imagine anything short of arrest stopping me.”

31 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:30:15pm

re: #28 Gus

Apparently this was a shotgun. But yeah. We better figure out what to do in Syria first.

It’s always an ar15, always.

32 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:31:15pm

re: #9 lawhawk

I wish to register that I’m not politicizing this current school shooting, but am responding to the previous school shooting, and the anniversary of the Newtown massacre in that Congress and Americans in general need to reconsider the easy access to firearms that makes these mass casualty events far too common.

That means addressing easy access to weapons that are designed to maximize firing rates, high capacity clips/magazines/ammo holding devices, licensing/registration, and mental health aspects.

But for the easy access to firearms, these kinds of situations would be extremely uncommon. And that is reinforced by the fact that so many of the mass shootings involve legally-owned firearms.

Mass shootings - defined when 3 or more people are shot, occur like clockwork. At least one every two weeks. But that’s a small percentage of the overall fatalities and injuries due to firearms use in the US overall.

Other facts and statistics relating to firearms in the US.

When I was attending school in the 40s and 50s, I witnessed only 1 incident, in jr high, that involved a gun. That was when a student brought a gun to school for himself and others to play Russian roulette. One boy shot himself in the head and died. The school, in Charlotte, was going to be closed (this would have been around 1954-55) and parts of it were closed off and not in use, and kids would sometimes go there for various forbidden activities. Even though the school was less than 40 yrs old (built in 1920), the location, near downtown, was not considered suitable for the upper middle class kids who attended there from Myers Park and a new school was built on Runnymeade Ln, the older one being torn down in the late 1950s. A large residence YMCA was built on the site a bit later.

However, school shootings are not new, even occurring during the 1800s (1850s was probably when they started keeping tabs), but in the 20th century, they became fairly common. This doesn’t even appear to be an exhaustive list, either, since the one I experienced is not listed. I think because of the identity of the kid, the family kept it pretty hush-hush and within the school itself.

en.wikipedia.org

33 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:32:24pm

Crap. My connection sucks.

34 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:33:50pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

The FBI seems to be pretty good at infiltrating and ferreting out potential radicals. That’s a good thing.

The Sheikh at the Sufi Center I used to go to in Berlin once said quite explicitly that if someone came to him having overheard a terrorist plot, he would immediately tell that person to go to the police; if they were too afraid to do so themselves, he continued by saying he’d go to the police himself and warn them that something was up.

And that’s how it’s done, because I’d damn well do the same without hesitation.

35 Uncle Obdicut  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:35:52pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

The FBI seems to be pretty good at infiltrating and ferreting out potential radicals. That’s a good thing.

The Sheikh at the Sufi Center I used to go to in Berlin once said quite explicitly that if someone came to him having overheard a terrorist plot, he would immediately tell that person to go to the police; if they were too afraid to do so themselves, he continued by saying he’d go to the police himself and warn them that something was up.

And that’s how it’s done, because I’d damn well do the same without hesitation.

And this is the kind of things the cops ruin by running tactics like the mosque infiltration and observation stuff in NYC. Infiltrate the actual terrorist groups, not the community as a whole. The community you work with, you bring them into it.

36 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:37:37pm

re: #35 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And this is the kind of things the cops ruin by running tactics like the mosque infiltration and observation stuff in NYC. Infiltrate the actual terrorist groups, not the community as a whole. The community you work with, you bring them into it.

Very true. Much like the FBI successfully infiltrated the KKK in the 1960s, they need to do the same today with regard to potential terrorist groups, jihad-inspired or otherwise.

37 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:38:06pm

Just a note but this was at Arapahoe High School in Centennial, CO and not Denver. Denver area maybe but not in Denver.

38 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:39:08pm

re: #10 erik_t

I don’t remember when X HAPPENED, LET’S TRY MEASURES TO STOP X became political.

When the Exxon Valdez crashed in Alaska in 1989, were increased safety measures for supertankers political?
When the major blackout happened in the Northeast in 2003, did grid maintenance become political?
When the I-35 bridge in Minnesota collapsed in 2007, was replacing it and rechecking the previous design political?

Such bullshit.

I was mentioning the politicization tongue in cheek since calling for something to not be politicized is itself politicizing the activity. I led with that because these mass shootings happen so frequently that there’s no letup between grieving over one shooting situation and the next occurring.

It’s horrific for everyone involved, and lockdowns are an all-too-common occurrence. Something has to give, and that means addressing the lax firearms laws and treatment of firearms nationally.

39 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:41:17pm

Post-mayors meeting w/Pres Obama.


Pres Obama also mentioned shooting at Arapahoe HS in his remarks.

40 Ian G.  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:42:12pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

‘round the time the NRA ceased being an organization of gun owners wishing to promote gun safety and responsibility and converted into a lobby group for the gun manufacturers. paranoid white people who think they need to be armed to the teeth to prevent the black panthers from raping their daughters and the government from throwing them into prison camps

Fix’d

41 Bulworth  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:42:57pm

I’m just waiting to learn what video games this shooter had in his house. //

42 GeneJockey  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:44:07pm

re: #41 Bulworth

I’m just waiting to learn what video games this shooter had in his house. //

Definitely not too soon to talk video games, satanism, rock and roll, bad parenting, antidepressants, or Jihad. Too soon to talk about guns, though.

43 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:47:06pm

re: #41 Bulworth

I’m just waiting to learn what video games this shooter had in his house. //

Call of Duty. After paying to play the same game in different wrapping for years, I’d be ready to kill somebody too.

//

44 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:47:59pm

Look out, New England. Six-10 in of snow predicted, starting around 1 pm on Sat.

forecast.weather.gov

45 geoffm33  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:48:01pm

re: #39 Justanotherhuman

Post-mayors meeting w/Pres Obama.

[Embedded content]


Pres Obama also mentioned shooting at Arapahoe HS in his remarks.

That’s my mayor-elect Walsh on De Blasio’s right :)

46 Bulworth  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:50:19pm

Also bet this shooter or at least his family are Obama supporters and Democrats because all mass shooters are Dems who hate gunz. Confirmed. FACT. //

47 abolitionist  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:51:20pm

Decades ago, mobile phones within schools were typically used only for drug dealing. In short order, students were routinely forbidden from carrying such.

Forward to today. Mobile phones are now part of our culture, but most students in US schools face draconian and largely arbitrary rules about posession and/or use on school property, especially during school session hours. Sanctions often include confiscation for several days, or with another infraction, until the end of the school term.

(Of course, parents are typically still required to continue paying for phone service that goes unused. Or worse, the carrier contract may specify that if “the device” is “out of service” for more than x days, that constitutes a breach of contract, and an early termination fee is owed. Have you read your TOS?)

Altho I can imagine some downsides, possibly more cell phones in the hands of more students and teachers could be helpful in these situations.

48 GeneJockey  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

When I was attending school in the 40s and 50s, I witnessed only 1 incident, in jr high, that involved a gun. That was when a student brought a gun to school for himself and others to play Russian roulette. One boy shot himself in the head and died. The school, in Charlotte, was going to be closed (this would have been around 1954-55) and parts of it were closed off and not in use, and kids would sometimes go there for various forbidden activities. Even though the school was less than 40 yrs old (built in 1920), the location, near downtown, was not considered suitable for the upper middle class kids who attended there from Myers Park and a new school was built on Runnymeade Ln, the older one being torn down in the late 1950s. A large residence YMCA was built on the site a bit later.

However, school shootings are not new, even occurring during the 1800s (1850s was probably when they started keeping tabs), but in the 20th century, they became fairly common. This doesn’t even appear to be an exhaustive list, either, since the one I experienced is not listed. I think because of the identity of the kid, the family kept it pretty hush-hush and within the school itself.

en.wikipedia.org

My younger son’s first week of High School, a stones throw from our house. Around 8 in the morning, a cop car goes by, siren blaring. Then another, and another. We live at the intersection of two major streets, though, so that happens. My wife said, “Probably an accident on Rt. 92.”

Then we hear a helicopter, and instead of flying past, it’s hovering nearby. My wife goes out front to check. Hundreds of students are walking from the HS to the Middle School a block away.

It turns out a former student had come to the school to commit mayhem, armed with pipebombs and a chainsaw. Fortunately he was completely incompetent - his pipebombs were barely powerful enough to scorch the linoleum, let alone bring down windows, walls, or doors, and a chainsaw is a really stupid offensive weapon, fevered gamer imaginations notwithstanding. The Principal and a teacher tackled him and held him till the Police got there.

49 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:53:55pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

The FBI seems to be pretty good at infiltrating and ferreting out potential radicals. That’s a good thing.

The Sheikh at the Sufi Center I used to go to in Berlin once said quite explicitly that if someone came to him having overheard a terrorist plot, he would immediately tell that person to go to the police; if they were too afraid to do so themselves, he continued by saying he’d go to the police himself and warn them that something was up.

And that’s how it’s done, because I’d damn well do the same without hesitation.

Thankfully most communities will do the same. There are very few circles where people can openly discuss planning terrorist attacks.

50 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 1:54:59pm

Anywho.

51 GeneJockey  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:01:01pm

re: #50 Gus

Anywho.

Threadkiller.

52 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:01:52pm

re: #51 GeneJockey

Threadkiller.

Why is my snipping tool picking up my desktop background?

53 GeneJockey  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:03:47pm

re: #52 Gus

Why is my snipping tool picking up my desktop background?

“I don’t rightly know, child. I don’t rightly know.”

54 blueraven  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:06:15pm

Per news conference CNN

Student entered school asking location of specific teacher by name
Teacher, upon hearing left building
Student then shot 2 kids…one seriously
apparently then shot self

55 Kragar  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:09:41pm
56 freetoken  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:12:21pm

re: #54 blueraven

So, the scenario emerging is that this is some sort of retribution/revenge kind of thing?

Seriously f*cked up student body when students go after teachers with guns.

But we love our guns in this country, and its how many apparently fantasize dealing with their problems.

57 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:13:01pm

re: #55 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I used to shoot a BB gun when I was a kid. Also shot a Mauser and 30/30 lever action Marlin when I was a kid.

58 Gus  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:13:33pm

I better come back later.

59 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:13:35pm

As an expat, I tend to get homesick around the holidays…then hews like this of Sandy Hook comes on the news and I am more content living abroad…

60 Kragar  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:14:04pm

re: #57 Gus

I used to shoot a BB gun when I was a kid. Also shot a Mauser and 30/30 lever action Marlin when I was a kid.

Did you do that wearing an NRA infant bib after you signed your very own copy of the Declaration of Independence?

61 freetoken  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:15:07pm

Off topic I know, but another in the continuing run of how messed up our public discourse is:

Texas Lt. Gov. Hopefuls Voice Support for Creationism

Three out of four Republican candidates for Texas lieutenant governor said at a debate in Waco on Thursday evening that creationism should be taught in the state’s public schools.

All four men in the race said religion should play a larger role in public education when asked where they stood on the issue during the event hosted by the McClennan County Republican Party and broadcast by KCEN-TV. But only one, Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, stopped short of endorsing creationism in the state’s curriculum.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said he happens “to believe in creationism.”

“I believe that in fairness we need to expose students to both sides of this,” he said. “That’s why I’ve supported including in our textbooks the discussion of the biblical account of life and creation, and I understand there are a lot of people who disagree with me, and believe in evolution.”

Both state Sen. Dan Patrick of Houston and Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples echoed Dewhurst’s remarks, saying that as Christians they believe students should learn the biblical view of creation in school.


“Our students … must really be confused. They go to Sunday School on Sunday and then they go into school on Monday and we tell them they can’t talk about God,” said Patrick. “I’m sick and tired of a minority in our country who want us to turn our back on God.”

[…]

And don’t go cheering for the one who said no, as he simply means in a science classroom, but goes on later be one of those real constitutionalist fetishists.

62 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:16:30pm

re: #47 abolitionist

Decades ago, mobile phones within schools were typically used only for drug dealing. In short order, students were routinely forbidden from carrying such.

Forward to today. Mobile phones are now part of our culture, but most students in US schools face draconian and largely arbitrary rules about posession and/or use on school property, especially during school session hours. Sanctions often include confiscation for several days, or with another infraction, until the end of the school term.

(Of course, parents are typically still required to continue paying for phone service that goes unused. Or worse, the carrier contract may specify that if “the device” is “out of service” for more than x days, that constitutes a breach of contract, and an early termination fee is owed. Have you read your TOS?)

Altho I can imagine some downsides, possibly more cell phones in the hands of more students and teachers could be helpful in these situations.

Beepers. Remember those?

How many teachers are at a typical school? I think that’s probably enough people armed w/a phone to call 911. Phones are probably a real distraction to kids learning, even if it’s just texting. If parents need to contact their kids, they can do it through the office. No one else needs to disturb them while they’re ostensibly getting an education.

I think a good education is going to make kids productive adults, not cell phones, which at that age contribute to a lot of social dissension, gossip, and just utter BS.

63 freetoken  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:19:09pm

To wit:

Patterson favors teaching creationism, but not in science class

Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson says creationism should be taught in public schools, only not in science class.

On Friday, he said I erred in lumping him with three GOP rivals for lieutenant governor in this story about their televised debate in Waco late Thursday.

“My position is we shouldn’t teach creationism as a science subject, but as a social studies/history/comparative religion subject,” Patterson wrote in an email.

“And the kids and their parents can decide to subscribe to that theory or not,” he said. “When I was in public school here in Texas in the 1950s and ’60s, we didn’t teach creationism, but we did say the Lord’s prayer every morning. As I said last night, voluntary prayer, or a moment of silent prayer every morning isn’t unconstitutional and isn’t unfair to anyone.”

[…]

Because subscribing to reality is optional.

64 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:19:46pm

re: #56 freetoken

So, the scenario emerging is that this is some sort of retribution/revenge kind of thing?

Seriously f*cked up student body when students go after teachers with guns.

But we love our guns in this country, and its how many apparently fantasize dealing with their problems.

And what do you want to bet it’s daddy’s gun and he either A) didn’t have it locked up or B) had it locked up, but son had the code?

65 freetoken  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:23:05pm

This is the image of the GOP, from the TX Lt. Gov. “debate” for nomination:

Image: Lt_Gov_debate.jpg

Four greying white guys, wanting to impose fundamentalist Christianity on the entire society.

This is re-messaging?

66 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:26:32pm

Sheriff says student was armed with shotgun at Colorado’s Arapahoe High School; made no effort to hide it or conceal it; also a “device” possibly a molotov cocktail, was found inside the school, per bulletin on Breaking News.

Other students called shooter “troubled”, so this is probably a mental health situation.

“Colorado does not provide a minimum age to possess rifles or shotguns. Colorado also provides no minimum age for the purchase of a handgun or a long gun, although federal age restrictions still apply.”

smartgunlaws.org

67 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:28:50pm

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

Sheriff says student was armed with shotgun at Colorado’s Arapahoe High School; made no effort to hide it or conceal it; also a “device” possibly a molotov cocktail, was found inside the school, per bulletin on Breaking News.

Other students called shooter “troubled”, so this is probably a mental health situation.

“Colorado does not provide a minimum age to possess rifles or shotguns. Colorado also provides no minimum age for the purchase of a handgun or a long gun, although federal age restrictions still apply.”

smartgunlaws.org

So it very well could have been his gun. Because when your child might be mentally disturbed, buying him a shotgun or letting him have access to daddy’s is always a safe bet.////

68 GeneJockey  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:29:42pm

re: #65 freetoken

This is the image of the GOP, from the TX Lt. Gov. “debate” for nomination:

Image: Lt_Gov_debate.jpg

Four greying white guys, wanting to impose fundamentalist Christianity on the entire society.

This is re-messaging?

Apparently the new message is “Pay not attention to what we’ve done, or what we say we’ll do. Listen to us tell you how bad Democrats are!”

69 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 2:49:16pm

Hmmm.

70 boredtechindenver  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 3:02:44pm

Good Lord, Denver local station has a camera crew at what they are identifying as the “shooter’s home” with the street on the chyron and a zoom shot of the front door. There is no news value in the shot or the information given by the “reporter”, just an excuse to use the equipment.


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