Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin Defend ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star’s Homophobia and Racism

The more disgusting they are, the more the right loves them
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Before yesterday, I lived in a state of bliss, ignorant of Duck Dynasty and its glorification of redneck culture. I would have been perfectly happy to continue in this blissful ignorance, but then one of the main rednecks on this brain-dead “reality show” happened to spew a whole bunch of ugly homophobia and patronizing racism, and got suspended from the show by A&E.

Here’s what this cretin actually said, just so we all know what the baseline is here:

“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus,” he said. “That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying?

“But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

[…]

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field…. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!… Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

Pretty awful, right? Nobody could possibly defend this kind of rancid, blatant anti-gay hatred and racism masquerading as religious piety, could they?

Of course they could, silly! Never underestimate the right wing’s affection for truly awful people.

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal:

“Phil Robertson and his family are great citizens of the State of Louisiana. The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with. I don’t agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV. In fact, come to think of it, I find a good bit of it offensive. But I also acknowledge that this is a free country and everyone is entitled to express their views. In fact, I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended.”

And the always incredibly dim-witted Sarah Palin had to weigh in too:

“Free speech is an endangered species. Those ‘intolerants’ hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.”

It’s kind of pointless to point it out, because the wingnuts aren’t listening and don’t care, but this suspension has absolutely nothing to do with the First Amendment, which lays out the limits on government restriction of free speech. Last time I checked, A&E wasn’t a branch of the government.

For people who elevate the US Constitution to the status of holy writ, the wingnut crowd seems to have almost no understanding of what it actually says.

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167 comments
1 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:27:27am

HURR HURR

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:28:31am
3 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:28:34am

HURR HURR

4 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:28:36am
5 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:29:23am

Sarah has to defend the fellow: they occupies similar niches in the media envoronment: idealized figures of rugged individualism, self-reliance and rejection of elitist over-eddicated snobs trying to tell them what to do.

6 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:29:46am

Meanwhile:

7 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:29:56am

Advertisers should be worried if the teatards mount a boycott of Duck Dynasty since we all know how effective their boycott was of Monday Night Football.

8 Jay in Oregon  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:29:58am

Best comment I’ve seen on this issue so far:

9 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:30:06am

The tide is turning, despite the haters.

10 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:31:54am

THIS IS TEH MOAST DERP YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY.
Duck Dynasty fans cry your heart out.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:32:25am

re: #8 Jay in Oregon

Ha! PWNage!

12 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:33:08am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

I have no words…

…well okay, I do but I don’t want to be banned.

13 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:33:13am

I’m not surprised Palin thinks a private company suspending an employee/contractor for speech the company doesn’t like is a First Amendment issue. After all, she’s dumb as a fucking stump.

But Jindal? He’s either dumb as a fucking stump, too, or he’s playing to the Rubes.

The funny thing is, the same folks who are crying “Free Speech!” now would have told you that the Dixie Chicks could say anything they want but weren’t entitled to a platform. Situational Logic.

14 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:33:29am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I have no words…

…well okay, I do but I don’t want to be banned.

And it’s totally plagiarized…

15 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:33:31am

“We’re sorry. God is not available right now. Would you like to speak to Bobby Jindal or Sarah Palin?”

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:33:47am

I’m wondering if the wingnuts are screaming “1st amendment!” over this because it plays into their “government controls the media” talking point.

Otherwise, a pretty sad display from so-called “constitutional experts”

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:34:06am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

And it’s totally plagiarized…

Well, that’s Rand Paul’s MO isn’t it?

18 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:34:28am
19 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:34:31am

There is some sort of poetic justice in some of the drivers of the GOP clown-car complaining about the treatment of a reality show “star”.

After all, that’s what they really are.

20 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:35:21am

As usual they trot out the God Squad™.

21 b.d.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:35:48am

The flood gates of teh stupid are opened up all the way.

I hadn’t seen the part about the African Americans from the duck guy, funny how no one is talking about that part.

22 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:36:04am

Argumentum ad this is what my God Book tells me. Your argument is invalid.

23 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:36:54am

Seriously?


Seems there is a vast cultural divide in the world.

24 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:37:19am

Gotta love the WHACKO’s knowledge of the law.

25 ramex  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:38:58am

Screaming about taking away first amendment rights out of one side of their mouth and praising Putin out of the other.

26 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:38:59am

Fox News guest: Anti-LGBT rant makes Duck Dynasty star like Martin Luther King Jr.

MLK Jr was a hateful, racist redneck and a homophobe?

27 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:39:10am
28 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:39:31am

re: #23 FemNaziBitch

Seriously?

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Seems there is a vast cultural divide in the world.

Poe’s Law would apply here.

29 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:40:05am

re: #23 FemNaziBitch

Seriously?

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Seems there is a vast cultural divide in the world.

14 is the ideal age to get married.

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30 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:40:38am


ah! Me thinks it is a Parody account.

31 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:40:45am
32 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:41:16am

re: #25 ramex

Screaming about taking away first amendment rights out of one side of their mouth and praising Putin out of the other.

Screaming about taking away first amendment rights out of one side of their mouth and screaming about Bashir’s comments out of the other.

33 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:41:54am

re: #13 GeneJockey

I’m not surprised Palin thinks a private company suspending an employee/contractor for speech the company doesn’t like is a First Amendment issue. After all, she’s dumb as a fucking stump.

They know what the scoere is, but they also know what their target audience wants to hear from them.

34 Stanley Sea  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:41:59am

“No one was singing the blues”

35 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:43:07am

re: #34 Stanley Sea

“No one was singing the blues”

Because, among other things, they were smart enough to know that mouthing off and pissing off their employer was not a good way to stay employed.

Whatshisname McDuckman apparently did not learn from their example.

36 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:43:22am

e) RIGHT WING NUT JOBS!

37 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:44:17am
38 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:45:01am

Wheee!

39 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:45:04am

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

e) RIGHT WING NUT JOBS!

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Lotta overlap in those categories. I think I qualify for 3 out of 4.

40 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:45:11am

re: #37 FemNaziBitch

LOL.

And boom goes the dynamite.

41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:45:21am
42 b.d.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:45:24am

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

e) RIGHT WING NUT JOBS!

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lol, bicyclists?

43 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:46:46am

Where was the librul media outrage over the dismissals of Bashir and Alec Baldwin?

44 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:48:18am

re: #43 Dr. Matt

Where was the librul media outrage over the dismissals of Bashir and Alec Baldwin?

They were not suspended for quoting God’s Biblical Truth!

/

45 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:49:07am

re: #44 Sol Berdinowitz

They were not suspended for quoting God’s Biblical Truth!

/

I walked right into that one….didn’t I?

46 Dave In Austin  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:50:26am

Bwahahaha!!!!

47 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:51:18am

why does Palin write her tweets in that ‘folkys’ accent? Everytime I read one of them I can hear her voice trying to sound just like one of the ‘plain speakin’ folks.

Just one of my pet peeves.

RBS

48 b.d.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:52:34am

re: #46 Dave In Austin

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Bwahahaha!!!!

OK, I’m ready for Andy Kaufman to shave and reveal himself as the old duck guy.

49 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:52:45am
50 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:53:23am

Add Ted Cruz to the list of demagogues who are willing to ignore what the Constitution actually says and who it applies to.

The First Amendment is about protecting individuals from the acts of government.

It is not about a television network/production company involved in a contractual matter with one of its show’s stars.

The company has a contract with Robertson. The terms of the contract spell out obligations of the parties. I wouldn’t be surprised if the contract includes all kinds of conduct related clauses including any/all of the following: 1) suspension of individuals for bad conduct (and bad conduct is anything the producers say it is - without any reconsideration); 2) firing the individual for bad conduct; 3) shutting down the show; 4) or any other actions the producers see fit.

The production company has to answer to the network and advertisers. But their actions aren’t a free speech concern. It’s a contractual matter.

Cruz and Jindal should definitely know better than to make their asinine free speech/constitutional arguments. Palin? Well, she’s playing word salad, so she’s defaulting to her usual trope.

51 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:54:07am

re: #47 RealityBasedSteve

why does Palin write her tweets in that ‘folkys’ accent? Everytime I read one of them I can hear her voice trying to sound just like one of the ‘plain speakin’ folks.

Just one of my pet peeves.

RBS

I am sure that her site manager edits those in for effect

52 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:56:44am

OMG!

53 Mattand  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:57:22am

re: #51 Sol Berdinowitz

I am sure that her site manager edits those in for effect

If Palin were writing her own tweets, you’d be able to see the crayon smudges on the screen.

54 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:57:29am

re: #47 RealityBasedSteve

why does Palin write her tweets in that ‘folkys’ accent? Everytime I read one of them I can hear her voice trying to sound just like one of the ‘plain speakin’ folks.

Just one of my pet peeves.

RBS

Her voice is one of my pet peeves.

so freakin’ irritating.

55 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:58:03am

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

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I don’t like the c-word (and I don’t mean Cracker) used in any context.

56 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:58:28am

He made a plan and he followed through:

57 Uncle Obdicut  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:58:49am

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

Using ‘****’ to go after someone who said shitty things is kind of missing the point by a wide mile.

58 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:59:20am
59 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:59:54am

re: #57 Uncle Obdicut

Using ‘****’ to go after someone who said shitty things is kind of missing the point by a wide mile.

I know! I should have posted an emoticon sarc tag after that. Sorry.

60 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:00:11am

re: #53 Mattand

If Palin were writing her own tweets, you’d be able to see the crayon smudges on the screen.

I mean, hatin’?

Sarah Palin probably thinks that an apostrophe is the mantle-top prize you’re awarded in bible camp for being able to name the first twelve saints.

61 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:00:18am

re: #57 Uncle Obdicut

Using ‘****’ to go after someone who said shitty things is kind of missing the point by a wide mile.

He’s from the UK. Common there.

62 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:01:00am

re: #61 Gus

He’s from the UK. Common there.

I updated my post, hope it’s understandable.

63 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:01:09am

re: #55 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t like the c-word (and I don’t mean Cracker) used in any context.

what was funny was that while the text was loaded, and before the full twitter embed showed up, LGF was **** the c-word.

RBS

64 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:01:13am

If, and this is a huge if, Robertson was suspended and the terms of his contract do not allow the producers/network to do that, then Robertson has a contract law case against them. But he’s not fighting it AFAIK. In other words, the producers/network is within their rights to do what they’ve done.

EOS.

65 Ian G.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:02:47am

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

Ah, what about gay, black climate scientists who ride bikes?

CHECKMATE, WINGERS!!!!

66 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:03:17am

re: #63 RealityBasedSteve

Tech note: LGF’s word filters don’t work on embedded tweets, because they’re dynamically generated inside an iframe.

67 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:03:22am

re: #42 b.d.

lol, bicyclists?

They’re mistaking a squeaky chain for whining.

68 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:04:53am

re: #67 wrenchwench

They’re mistaking a squeaky chain for whining.

ALL BICYCLISTS ARE LIKE THOSE CRITICAL MASS HIPPIES! I KNOW. I READ IT ON FREE REPUBLIC AND IN THE LIVELEAK COMMENTS!!

69 Bulworth  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:05:03am

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

RWNJ whiners whining about other whiners?

70 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:05:10am

Now, I am hungry:

71 Gus  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:07:06am

Boy. If you don’t understand that people in the UK use the c-word left and right then I don’t know what to say. I’m out of here.

72 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:07:53am

re: #71 Gus

Boy. If you don’t understand that people in the UK use the c-word left and right then I don’t know what to say. I’m out of here.

Yeah, it’s a cultural and generation thing. It’s not the nasty it used to be, I guess. I hear younger people using it.

73 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:08:16am

re: #71 Gus

Boy. If you don’t understand that people in the UK use the c-word left and right then I don’t know what to say. I’m out of here.

And here I thought they just called each other “git” all the time.

/

74 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:08:32am
75 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:08:36am

re: #71 Gus

Boy. If you don’t understand that people in the UK use the c-word left and right then I don’t know what to say. I’m out of here.

They should tweet in good American English, though.

/

76 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:08:49am
77 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:09:06am

My girlfriend uses the c-word when she’s feeling extra randy…..but that’s a whole different story.

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78 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:10:21am

re: #77 Dr. Matt

My girlfriend uses the c-word when she’s feeling extra randy…..but that’s a whole different story.

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Nope, I got nuthin’.

79 Ian G.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:10:37am

re: #74 FemNaziBitch

It’s actually about 27%, not 1/4 as Klein says.

That number really is the pi of wingnuttery. It reappears again and again.

80 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:10:39am

re: #76 Lidane

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Dafuq is dat?

81 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:11:06am

re: #79 Ian G.

It’s actually about 27%, not 1/4 as Klein says.

That number really is the pi of wingnuttery. It reappears again and again.

e, I think, might be a better metaphor.

82 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:11:08am

re: #79 Ian G.

It’s actually about 27%, not 1/4 as Klein says.

That number really is the pi of wingnuttery. It reappears again and again.

Pi of Wingnuttery? Sounds bitter.

83 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:11:53am

So, Gov Jindal, of course you had to defend the State’s investment in this racist, homophobic bullshit piece of crap. How much of the taxpayers’ money was it, exactly?

And if it’s considered being “white trash” to work alongside people of a different ethnicity at the same job, then this country is in bigger trouble than anyone thinks.

84 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:12:01am

re: #76 Lidane

Looks like they’re on a little trip to the post office.

85 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:12:03am


PUPPY!

86 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:13:02am

re: #85 FemNaziBitch

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PUPPY!

Heartwarming. And, if he takes his pills, heartworming.

87 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:13:41am

Duck Dynasty and LSU football are the only two things that reminds Americans that Louisiana still exists.

88 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:13:51am

re: #86 GeneJockey

Heartwarming. And, if he takes his pills, heartworming.

The picure is better when viewed on it’s own. The dog is beautiful! —has a few grays in it’s beard.

89 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:13:52am

re: #83 Justanotherhuman

And if it’s considered being “white trash” to work alongside people of a different ethnicity at the same job, then this country is in bigger trouble than anyone thinks.

Being white and working with black people in a field makes you trash. More than that, it trashens your whiteness.

It’s an incredibly illuminating statement.

90 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:14:35am
91 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:14:37am

re: #42 b.d.

lol, bicyclists?

I’m tired of bicyclists complaining when I run them off the road! Whiners!!

92 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:14:58am

re: #80 GeneJockey

Dafuq is dat?

Quokka!

93 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:15:11am

re: #80 GeneJockey

Dafuq is dat?

The quokka is the only member of the genus Setonix, known locally as the Kangaroo Rat, is a small macropod about the size of a domestic cat.

en.wikipedia.org

94 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:15:38am

Another Britishism that sounds sexist to our American ears: twat. As in, “He’s a pretentious twat.”

95 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:15:45am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Tech note: LGF’s word filters don’t work on embedded tweets, because they’re dynamically generated inside an iframe.

I figured that was what it was when I saw the embed code. Just amused me to see it change.

RBS

96 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:16:01am

re: #87 Dr. Matt

Duck Dynasty and LSU football are the only two things that reminds America that Louisiana still exists.

I’d say Mardi Gras, but New Orleans is not actually part of Louisiana.

It’s a very strange place.

97 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:17:18am


You know what I replied.

98 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:17:26am

re: #96 erik_t

I’d say Mardi Gras, but New Orleans is not actually part of Louisiana.

It’s a very strange place.

There’s New Orleans and there’s the rest of Louisiana.

Just like how there’s Austin and then there’s Texas.

99 Ming  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:18:30am

re: #13 GeneJockey

I’m not surprised Palin thinks a private company suspending an employee/contractor for speech the company doesn’t like is a First Amendment issue. After all, she’s dumb as a fucking stump.

But Jindal? He’s either dumb as a fucking stump, too, or he’s playing to the Rubes….

Sarah Palin has an excuse. She’s mentally ill. She got a college degree after 6 years in 5 colleges, or was it 5 years in 6 colleges?

Bobby Jindal was a Rhodes Scholar. In Biology. I’m blown away by his willingness to pander to people’s ignorance, while supporting hatred (in this case, of gays). He’s a real piece of work.

100 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:18:37am

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

I would laugh my ass off if he was, but he’s not. They wouldn’t have elected Francis as Pope if he was anything other than a strict conservative theologian.

101 S'latch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:18:52am

I know a lot of right-wingers get called Neanderthals. But, Phil Robertson, and these other male members of his Duck Dynasty family, actually look like real life Neanderthals to me.

102 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:19:06am

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

Another Britishism that sounds sexist to our American ears: twat. As in, “He’s a pretentious twat.”

I think the big cultural difference is that the C-word and the T-word are generally applied to men there, whereas over here they’re applied to women.

103 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:19:51am

re: #83 Justanotherhuman

In 2012, Louisiana doled out $231 million in film production subsidies (film/tv/broadcast). It breaks out to about $50 million in credits sold back to the state and the remainder evenly split between corporate and individual income tax breaks.

This is how the credit breaks down for an individual production. The problem is that many states have canned the film production incentives because they aren’t generating the money claimed, and aren’t delivering the economic benefits sought (namely jobs).

104 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:19:52am

re: #98 Lidane

Just like how there’s Austin and then there’s Texas.

I was literally typing the exact same thing.

Jerk.

:)

105 b.d.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:19:53am

The only two whiney bicyclists I can think of are Lance Armstrong and George Bush.

106 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:20:12am

I can say from a personal standpoint that I am not at all surprised about the comments that Robertson made. I was born and lived for almost 30 years less than 20 miles from where he is located, and still have family members living there - and as such I know the culture of Northern Louisiana. To say that there is still a culture of bigotry and even hints of the old “Jim Crow” mindset is a major, MAJOR understatement.
Case in point: back when David Duke was running (and actually made it to the runoff) for Louisiana Governor, this part of the state is where he had his strongest support. He handily won almost all of the parishes in this part of the state - in many areas by a 20-25% margin.

In fact, this, coupled with the fact that there wasn’t a significant economy in the technology sector in the area is what drove me to move out of the state in the early 1990s - and from every interaction that I’ve had when traveling back to the area for family-related business, I can attest that the mindset hasn’t moved a bit since the day I left more than two decades ago.

107 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:20:35am
108 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:22:00am
109 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:22:22am

re: #105 b.d.

The only two whiney bicyclists I can think of are Lance Armstrong and George Bush.

They pretty much make up for the rest of them.

110 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:22:55am

re: #101 S’latch

I know a lot of right-wingers get called Neanderthals. But, Phil Robertson, and these other male members of his Duck Dynasty family, actually look like real life Neanderthals to me.

ah S’latch…. there is a delegation from TNADL (The Neanderthal Anti-Defamation League) here to see you. (and they don’t look very happy).

RBS

111 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:23:03am

re: #107 Lidane

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good answer

112 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:23:06am

Actually, I think I’m going to get rid of those word filters in comments. I originally put them in because our software wasn’t very sophisticated at the time and I had no other way to keep racist/sexist words out of comments. LGF’s tools are much better now.

113 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:23:10am

I can’t access twitter from my PC (blocked at work), but go to Piers Morgan’s twitter account. He just retweeted a pic from a RWNJ that has a sniper rifle on the POTUS.

114 Ian G.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:24:59am

So any howling yet from Bryan Fischer about New Mexico legalizing gay marriage, or is it all still about Duck Dynasty?

Because I have this self-loathing, but out-of-the-closet, gay Republican “friend” on Facebook who is screaming about “unelected tyrants” in New Mexico.

115 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:25:27am

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

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In my family, we think of my sister Suzi as the White Sheep of the family. She’s the one who was a cheerleader, a Homecoming attendant, the May Day Queen, had lots of normal friends, etc. Married her High School sweetheart, and they just celebrated, IIRC 44 years together.

Probably the only one of us who doesn’t have at least one toe On The Spectrum…

116 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:25:32am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I can’t access twitter from my PC (blocked at work), but go to Piers Morgan’s twitter account. He just retweeted a pic from a RWNJ that has a sniper rifle on the POTUS.

117 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:25:35am

re: #98 Lidane

There’s New Orleans and there’s the rest of Louisiana.

Just like how there’s Austin and then there’s Texas.

More like three.
Northern Louisiana (where the DuckDynasty people are located), Acadiana (aka “Creole/Cajun country”), and New Orleans.

118 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:26:05am

re: #110 RealityBasedSteve

ah S’latch…. there is a delegation from TNADL (The Neanderthal Anti-Defamation League) here to see you. (and they don’t look very happy).

RBS

That’s just the prominent brows. They always look angry.

119 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:26:49am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yea… that’s going to get somebody a visit from the Secret Service.

RBS

120 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:27:20am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Hey, Sharon? It’s the Secret Service for you on Line 2.”

Jesus.

121 b.d.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:27:49am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mean and dumb is not a good combination

122 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:28:34am

re: #121 b.d.

Mean and dumb is not a good combination

“How efficient of you!”

123 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:28:48am

WHAT?

124 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:29:37am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I can’t access twitter from my PC (blocked at work), but go to Piers Morgan’s twitter account. He just retweeted a pic from a RWNJ that has a sniper rifle on the POTUS.

This the one? (Not embedding)

125 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:29:39am

I gotta eat somfin’

bbl

126 ObserverArt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:29:51am

re: #24 FemNaziBitch

Gotta love the WHACKO’s knowledge of the law.

God’s law trumps all!

/

127 Ian G.  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:30:12am

re: #117 RadicalModerate

More like three.
Northern Louisiana (where the DuckDynasty people are located), Acadiana (aka “Creole/Cajun country”), and New Orleans.

What’s Acadiana like, politically? Completely wingnutty, or more moderate because it’s linguistically and religiously from the rest of the Solid South?

128 Lidane  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:30:40am
129 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:30:47am
130 erik_t  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:30:57am

re: #127 Ian G.

What’s Acadiana like, politically? Completely wingnutty, or more moderate because it’s linguistically and religiously from the rest of the Solid South?

Defensive-compound right, not whacko hateful white right.

Kinda like parts of Idaho.

[PIMF’d]

131 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:31:22am

re: #89 erik_t

Being white and working with black people in a field makes you trash. More than that, it trashens your whiteness.

It’s an incredibly illuminating statement.

Not just in a field of cotton—there are plenty of occupations that white people think are below them, such as garbage collector, janitor, street cleaner (except on the huge street sweepers—that’s “equipment operator”). The higher whites go in occupations and no longer seek the lower ones, the more those occupations are looked down on. Some of it is a class thing, but a lot of it is racism, too.

I’ve been through the racism of the south all my life. I can remember the last year I worked at the local gas co—there were no Black females in our office except a young HS senior doing her DE program in the pm. I gave her rides downtown so she wouldn’t have to pay for a transfer on the bus, and for that, I was looked down on—in 1969. Before I got my first car in 1968, it was announced by one asshole in the office that “Only _____ and n_____s ride the bus” as if it was something to be ashamed of. That was during the period I became very interested in politics and knew I had to work for it if there was ever going to be any progress in this country.

Racism destroys everything in its path, just like other bigotry does.

132 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:31:36am

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

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Unclear on the concept.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:31:44am

HURR HURR IT JUST A TELESCOPE!!!!11!!!!!

134 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:32:35am

Oh it’s a dumbfuck birther too!

135 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:32:58am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh it’s a dumbfuck birther too!

And a Palin fan…

136 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:33:03am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh it’s a dumbfuck birther too!

My surprise, etc.

137 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:33:08am
138 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:34:24am

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

And a Palin fan…

Hey now! He’s done some excellent work! Not just with the Pythons, but in his own right! Not as big as Eric Idle or John Cleese, perhaps, but nothing to sneeze at!

What?

Oh, THAT Palin.

Nevermind.

139 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:36:16am

re: #127 Ian G.

What’s Acadiana like, politically? Completely wingnutty, or more moderate because it’s linguistically and religiously from the rest of the Solid South?

There is some social conservatism there, since it is still very much a rural area, but because of the muti-cultural background of the residents, who are a mix of French Canadian, Spanish, Haitian, German, and several tribes of Native Americans, the taint of racism isn’t nearly as prevalent as other areas.

140 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:36:34am

re: #103 lawhawk

In 2012, Louisiana doled out $231 million in film production subsidies (film/tv/broadcast). It breaks out to about $50 million in credits sold back to the state and the remainder evenly split between corporate and individual income tax breaks.

This is how the credit breaks down for an individual production. The problem is that many states have canned the film production incentives because they aren’t generating the money claimed, and aren’t delivering the economic benefits sought (namely jobs).

So—

“The Louisiana Motion Picture Industry Development Tax Credit provides a 30% tax credit on qualified expenditures with no project or program caps (on qualified Louisiana expenses).” Plus, the additional 5% for LA residents who work in the filming.

Nice subsidy for the Robertsons and Gurney Productions since isn’t it filmed entirely in LA? You know the Robertsons have a lot of creative control over it, too, employing their large, extended family.

141 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:37:58am

re: #139 RadicalModerate

There is some social conservatism there, since it is still very much a rural area, but because of the muti-cultural background of the residents, who are a mix of French Canadian, Spanish, Haitian, German, and several tribes of Native Americans, the taint of racism isn’t nearly as prevalent as other areas.

Wonder what the country would be like if the Louisiana Purchase had fallen through?

142 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:40:04am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

Yup. I was trying to track down that portion of the film credits associated with the show, but didn’t see a cost breakdown. Taking those credits means they’re getting taxpayer dollars to do something they’d be doing anyways - namely filming in the state, which is a reason that film credits aren’t always the job generators hoped for.

143 ObserverArt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:40:20am

re: #92 Lidane

Quokka!

Cute little critters. Love the full cheeks.

144 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:41:05am

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

Wonder what the country would be like if the Louisiana Purchase had fallen through?

Middle America would be just like Quebec.

145 jaunte  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:41:54am
no one was singing the blues

Social origins of a classic American musical form for $200, Alex.

146 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:42:03am

re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord

Middle America would be just like Quebec.

Sacre Bleu!!

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:42:06am

Or maybe Canada would extend all the way down the Mississippi.

148 jaunte  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:42:43am

Crawfish poutine.

149 ObserverArt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:44:09am

re: #104 Dr. Matt

I was literally typing the exact same thing.

Jerk.

:)

Land islands.

Several states have them, and a lot of them have big universities full of liberal/classic/progressive/scientific thinking.

150 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:45:18am

re: #142 lawhawk

Yup. I was trying to track down that portion of the film credits associated with the show, but didn’t see a cost breakdown. Taking those credits means they’re getting taxpayer dollars to do something they’d be doing anyways - namely filming in the state, which is a reason that film credits aren’t always the job generators hoped for.

Sarah Palin does the same thing. Everybody in her family gets paid. And she’s the one who got the film credit passed when she was gov. Just before she quit. She is clever, I’ll give her that. Greedy people usually are.

151 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:46:08am

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

Sarah Palin does the same thing. Everybody in her family gets paid. And she’s the one who got the film credit passed when she was gov. Just before she quit. She is clever, I’ll give her that. Greedy people usually are.

I saw it once described as “white trash feral cleverness”

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:47:25am

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

Sarah Palin does the same thing. Everybody in her family gets paid. And she’s the one who got the film credit passed when she was gov. Just before she quit. She is clever, I’ll give her that. Greedy people usually are.

Cunning, not clever.

Stupid people can be very cunning.

153 dog philosopher  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:47:26am

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

Wonder what the country would be like if the Louisiana Purchase had fallen through?

hmmm wonder what would have happened to it at the decision points of history…

administered by the restored bourbon dynasty after the fall of napoleon… stayed neutral or not if there had still been a mexican war and then a american civil war… eventually join the united states or become an independent country, and, if not, administered by vichy during the nazi occupation of france?

154 makeitstop  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:47:46am

For you model train fans - the most insane model train setup EVAH.

Youtube Video

155 Dr. Matt  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:48:21am

re: #119 RealityBasedSteve

Yea… that’s going to get somebody a visit from the Secret Service.

RBS

I Hope so.

156 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:48:22am

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

Wonder what the country would be like if the Louisiana Purchase had fallen through?

There might have been a different dynamic to how the Civil War unfolded, as what became the Confederacy would have lost their major shipping ports, as well as Mississippi River access.
And then there’s the fact that things like the Missouri Compromise, ( and subsequently the Kansas-Nebraska Act) would have never taken place, as they wouldn’t have been US Territories, at least not in the timeframe that the Louisiana Purchase afforded them.

157 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:50:58am

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

Another Britishism that sounds sexist to our American ears: twat. As in, “He’s a pretentious twat.”

And a “fanny” is the female private parts, not the posterior, or “bum”.

Needless to say, Brits are very amused when American tourists talk about their “fanny packs”.

158 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:51:50am

re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord

Middle America would be just like Quebec.

There would only be the United East Coast States.

No westward ho! crap because you would have had to leave the US and go through a foreign country and get their permission. Even become a citizen. No homesteading unless they approved it; of course, today it would still be flyover country. CA and the west would have stayed in Spanish hands and reverted to Mexico.

Rick Perry (and others) would have never been born.

159 Joanne  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:52:35am

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

GOP Teens


ah! Me thinks it is a Parody account.

I wish. Look at the timeline. I thought so too, originally.

160 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:53:23am

re: #109 wrenchwench

They pretty much make up for the rest of them.

Daughter1 helps mount the 100mi Cheaha Challenge. She says about a quarter can be made to whine under the right conditions.

161 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 11:55:03am

re: #130 erik_t

Defensive-compound right, not whacko hateful white right.

Kinda like parts of Idaho.

[PIMF’d]

With one major difference.
The primary faith in Acadiana is Roman Catholic, which makes it significantly different culturally than most other areas of the Southern US, which is almost exclusively Protestant - specifically Southern Baptist and Pentecostal.

162 nines09  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 12:34:34pm

One more dipstick on one more worthless TV show comes out and shows everybody his IQ and ignorance. “Contract? What contract?”

163 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 12:40:47pm

re: #157 Sol Berdinowitz

And a “fanny” is the female private parts, not the posterior, or “bum”.

Needless to say, Brits are very amused when American tourists talk about their “fanny packs”.

I say, would you please “knock me up” in the morning? And in the meantime, do try to “keep your pecker up”.

164 Egregious Philbin  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 12:54:11pm

But…Palin wanted Martin Bashir fired because of what he said.

Hmmm, that means she is a hypocrite?

Blowin my mind….

165 BeenHereAwhile  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 1:10:55pm

re: #35 erik_t

re: #34 Stanley Sea

“No one was singing the blues”

Because, among other things, they were smart enough to know that mouthing off and pissing off their employer was not a good way to stay employed.

Whatshisname McDuckman apparently did not learn from their example.

The response to a black man in the 1960s, in that area of the US, acting “uppity;” would have been much worse than unemployment.

166 BeenHereAwhile  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 1:51:51pm

re: #127 Ian G.

What’s Acadiana like, politically? Completely wingnutty, or more moderate because it’s linguistically and religiously from the rest of the Solid South?

Probably the quickest way to get a feel how different the cajun culture is to listen to some Cajun and Zydeco music.

The easiest way to tell the difference between Cajun and Zydeco is, “if you can’t dance to it, it’s Zydeco.

Here’s C J Chenier, performing his late father’s Zydeco signature song:

“My Baby Ain’t Got No Shoes.”

Youtube Video

167 Ace-o-aces  Thu, Dec 19, 2013 3:54:11pm
And the always incredibly dim-witted Sarah Palin had to weigh in too:

“Free speech is an endangered species. Those ‘intolerants’ hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us.”

But is was OK to fire Martin Bashir for voicing His personal opinion.


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