Duck Dynasty Bigot Not Suspended Any More

Gigantic right wing rage-fest gets results
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And of course, surprising no one, A&E has announced that the racist, anti-gay, misogynistic hillbilly who heads the Duck Dynasty show is not suspended any more.

Following a political and cultural backlash, the A&E cable network on Friday reversed its decision to suspend the patriarch of the hit series “Duck Dynasty” over inflammatory remarks about gay people.

He made many other inflammatory remarks, of course, including openly racist comments about the happy singing black people he saw in the Jim Crow south, but for some reason the media reports are just gliding right past all that.

A&E’s statement to the media reads: “As a global media content company, A+E Networks’ core values are centered around creativity, inclusion and mutual respect. We believe it is a privilege for our brands to be invited into people’s home and we operate with a strong sense of integrity and deep commitment to these principals.”

Highly ironic misspeling of “principles” aside, it’s not a shock that A&E has no real principles other than cash; I expected them to cave in on Duck Dynasty sooner. They may even have contrived the whole thing when they saw the protests against Robertson’s hateful comments in GQ, in a bid to enrage the easily-enraged right wing base and get even more of them to watch this stupid show. And prominent Republicans like Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin jumped out there early and let the base know it was time to yell and scream.

But you gotta hand it to the right wing media and the GOP — they pitched an absolutely gigantic fit over the suspension. They’re really excellent at this. And they are the audience for Duck Dynasty, no doubt about that. Well played, A&E.

UPDATE at 12/27/13 3:25:01 pm

And speaking of Ted Cruz:

UPDATE at 12/27/13 4:04:15 pm

And speaking of Bobby Jindal:

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240 comments
1 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:22:54pm
2 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:23:32pm

Moved from downstairs.

A&E proves that it’s just as racist as Phil Robertson.

“”I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person,” Robertson is quoted in GQ. “Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field…. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!… Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

Fuck you, A&E, you white cracker opportunistic greedy bastards. I’m only 5 yrs older than Robertson and I remember separate drinking fountains, eating facilities, rest rooms, segregated schools, neighborhoods, and (still) churches. And that was in NC, not even the “deep south” like LA. Robertson went to school in the 1950s, and it was to segregated schools and no doubt he saw the same things I did. And he probably lived in segregated neighborhoods his entire childhood, too, just as I did. Lying about “mixing” with Black folks in the fields doesn’t mean shit when it came to social and economic conditions for Blacks before the Civil Rights Act, and even after.

But no, no “mistreatment of any black person”—ever.

3 Stanley Sea  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:23:56pm
4 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:25:08pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

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So now condemnation and memory loss are considered “conversing”?

5 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:28:40pm

So basically, everything’s going according to plan.

Everybody wins except those not in A&E’s demo the blacks and teh gays.

6 A Mom Anon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:28:42pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

Oh well, that’s mighty, um, what’s the word I’m looking for, oh, yeah, Caucasian of them. That they’d deem to come sloshing out of the fucking swamp to talk to some colored and gay folks. Remind me to send them some polish for their crowns.

God, this makes me want to set piles of camo shit on fire.

7 Stanley Sea  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:31:41pm
8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:32:31pm

So basically, this suspension had no effect at all, on anything, except to generate a whole lot of publicity for the show.

9 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:32:45pm

They look like a Berkeley moonbat radical rock band, circa 1970.

Who could have imagined back in the 60s that growing your hair and beard to max length and leaving it all un-trimmed would someday identify you as a right wing Jesus crazed bigot and probably a hater of hippies as well?

10 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:33:10pm

Sadly, this was inevitable. It’s about dollars not anything else. Entertainment is as soulless as energy at the corporate level. A&E had more to lose than the Robinsons. All else from them was thin window dressing.

How many advertisers will bail out? What did the ratings do? Merch sales? The right thing to do was never in play at A&E.

11 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:34:58pm

I wonder if we’ll see A&E run ads for bullet proof kiddie backpacks? Rush Limbaugh has them now.

12 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:35:38pm

In your face from A&E-The Duck Dynasty Marathon.

13 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:39:20pm

Get a haircut you damn hippies! I hope you get drafted too. Be good for you.

Huh?

2013, nearly 2014? Yikes!!

Being a grumpy old fart ain’t what it used to be.

14 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:39:26pm

$$$$$$$$

Phil Robertson Flap Stings A&E
Demo drops 22 percent following Duck Dynasty star’s suspension

adweek.com

“A&E this year is expected to crack the half-billion-dollar mark in annual ad sales revenue for the first time in its history. Through the first three quarters of 2013—a period that includes the entirety of Season 3 and the first six episodes of Season 4—Duck Dynasty has generated around $80 million in ad sales revenue, or about 16 percent of the network’s projected annual haul, per Kantar Media estimates.”

Bigotry pays. Big time.

15 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:40:26pm
16 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:41:55pm

Back during the WW2 fiftieth anniversary period of 1989-95, A&E ran so many military history documentaries that it could have stood for Arms and Explosives network.

17 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:45:12pm

December 23, 2013 at 10:51 am

Because of your objections to Christianity in general and specifically Duck Dynasty, I hereby suspend and terminate Cable Television from my household.

If you object to who I am, I object to supporting your services.

disneybymark.com

18 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:45:16pm

Oh, come on Advocate. You don’t believe this bullshit, surely?

Report: A&E CEO Suspended Robertson for Sake of Gay Employees
Nancy Dubuc, currently receiving death threats, said she had to take action out of respect for A&E’s LGBT employees.

advocate.com

I suppose A&E has no Black employees?

19 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:45:59pm

You Tea Party know-nothing bastards got sooooo played. Trust me, the only people that are cheering “VICTORY!!!” are the Robersons and A&E. Always follow the money. Always.

20 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:46:03pm

Listening to the wingnuts accused GLAAD and those who criticized Robertson’s remarks of being “bullies,” when they were the ones threatening a boycott and sending all sorts of hate towards A&E, is IMAX level projection.

21 makeitstop  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:46:05pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

So basically, this suspension had no effect at all, on anything, except to generate a whole lot of publicity for the show.

Correct.

As I said downstairs - I thought reality shows didn’t have scriptwriters.

This was about as scripted as it could possibly get.

22 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:46:52pm

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

$$$$$$$$

Bigotry pays. Big time.

“A “family” show that American families love.”

23 makeitstop  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:47:50pm

re: #15 Gus

A+E Networks CEO, Nancy Dubuc.

AKA the 2013 equivalent of Faye Dunaway in Network.

24 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:48:52pm
25 AlexRogan  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:49:35pm

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

$$$$$$$$

Phil Robertson Flap Stings A&E
Demo drops 22 percent following Duck Dynasty star’s suspension

adweek.com

“A&E this year is expected to crack the half-billion-dollar mark in annual ad sales revenue for the first time in its history. Through the first three quarters of 2013—a period that includes the entirety of Season 3 and the first six episodes of Season 4—Duck Dynasty has generated around $80 million in ad sales revenue, or about 16 percent of the network’s projected annual haul, per Kantar Media estimates.”

Bigotry pays. Big time.

Just for reference, a list of the A+E Networks properties:

A&E
Bio
Crime & Investigation Network
History
H2
History en Español
Lifetime
LMN
Lifetime Real Women
Military History

26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:49:41pm

These fellows appeal to their fans at a very visceral level, just the kind of thing that TV thrives on, it is not designed to appeal to the intellect.

They look like a cross between rock stars, Biblical patriarchs and Confederate officers. In other words, the embodiment of a lot of these fellows’ dreams.

27 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:52:34pm
28 EmmaAnne  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:53:46pm

Seems like a short term win for A&E anyway. But I have a residual icky feeling about the network that will last long beyond this, and I doubt I am the only one.

29 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:53:48pm

Shows yet again how easily led by the nose americans are. Sure don’t take much effort.

30 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 3:57:26pm
31 plansbandc  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:00:36pm

JIndal’s idiocy and pandering just gave me a headache over my eye.

32 Decatur Deb  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:00:37pm

re: #30 Gus

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Yon asshole just signed up to go the distance with the swampdwellers.

33 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:01:11pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Please proceed…

34 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:01:19pm

re: #30 Gus

Meanwhile, in Utah….

35 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:01:41pm

Greta’s show on Fixed just led off with a BREAKING! STORY! that Roberson has rejoined the DD show. Does Murdoch know his audience or what?

36 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:04:07pm
37 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:04:48pm

re: #36 Gus

Did you borrow those eyeballs from Michele Bachmann?

38 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:05:15pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

Did you borrow those eyeballs from Michele Bachmann?

Yep.

39 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:05:52pm

Could you add a corndog?
/

40 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:07:41pm

41 nines09  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:08:59pm

Like they were going to fire him? Right. Sure. You bet. One dollar is worth more than any amount of responsibility for ugly words from it’s employees to A&E.

42 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:09:12pm

David Duke could guest star. They could hunt beavers together and give us words of wisdom. O_0

43 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:09:31pm

Just WTF is a “faith-driven consumer”? Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?

faithdrivenconsumer.com

Please don’t give them the clicks, though. This is their petition site that obviously worked, with a quarter of a million signatures (around 16% of total A&E viewers).

44 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:09:47pm

re: #36 Gus

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Gus, please quit scaring me. : )

45 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:12:00pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

It’s in the Book of Trump.

46 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:12:18pm

re: #30 Gus

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True enough, but we know we’re not the bigots in the room, either. You brand yourselves quite well that way.

47 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:17:42pm

OT, but Lizards, you gotta check this one out:

Youtube Video

This particular episode of ‘Midsomer Murders’ co-stars Peter Davison (the Fifth Doctor) Alice Krige (the Borg Queen) and John Bowe (the titular “Prime Suspect” - George Marlow - in the original telefilm from 1991).

It’s British TV awesomeness.

48 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:19:02pm

What total bullshit. He was never suspended, not for a single second.

Why, A&E was so outraged by his statements that they ran 12 hour blocks of the show all Christmas, and damn near every other day since the “suspension” was(n’t) imposed.

49 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:20:27pm

re: #15 Gus

The woman who single-handedly destroyed A&E and The History Channel.

50 Kragar  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:20:42pm

So in other words, I can continue to ignore shit for brains now?

51 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:21:17pm

52 makeitstop  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:23:01pm

re: #51 Gus

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Yeah, that’s pretty disturbing, right there.

53 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:23:46pm
54 AntonSirius  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:25:52pm

re: #30 Gus

55 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:26:12pm

With all of DD political friends on the right intertwining with the open racism and homophobia, it’s a matter of time before they will be emboldened to say something even more vile. I’m sure they feel they have the political capital to lecture.

56 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:27:13pm

This whole extravaganza is yet another reason why I am very glad that we do not have a TV in the house. To hell with all these cable companies. If there is something I want to watch I can find it online somewhere.

57 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:28:04pm

re: #55 Amory Blaine

With all of DD political friends on the right intertwining with the open racism and homophobia, it’s a matter of time before they will be emboldened to say something even more vile. I’m sure they feel they have the political capital to lecture.

Oh, I imagine they feel that have capital to spend and will use it in the near future, where Phil or Alan (the pastor of the family) insist that A&E allow them to express their “Christian” views unedited, else they’re leaving the show.

58 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:31:32pm

re: #53 Gus

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Oh fuck, now that is disturbing.

59 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:32:24pm

re: #51 Gus

Nice touch with the corndog’s cast shadow.

60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:33:23pm

re: #53 Gus

This image was found in the basement bedroom in Lanzas home

coulda been me at that age

61 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:33:46pm

re: #54 AntonSirius

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RBS

62 Bubblehead II  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:34:10pm

re: #51 Gus

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You forgot the mustard. Not to mention he really needs to clip his her nails. :-)

63 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:36:51pm
64 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:37:22pm

Freedom! :D

65 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:39:05pm

Cracker Barrel, A&E, Martin Bashir….who says fake outrages never get anything done?

Should we be worried about easily certain entities will cave to the RW machine?

66 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:39:35pm

re: #63 Gus

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+ 64! updings

RBS

67 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:39:44pm

re: #63 Gus

$350!!!!!

68 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:41:36pm

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

OT, but Lizards, you gotta check this one out:

[Embedded content]

This particular episode of ‘Midsomer Murders’ co-stars Peter Davison (the Fifth Doctor) Alice Krige (the Borg Queen) and John Bowe (the titular “Prime Suspect” - George Marlow - in the original telefilm from 1991).

It’s British TV awesomeness.

One of my favorite series, which I can revisit any time on Netflix. : )

69 AlexRogan  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:42:00pm
70 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:42:09pm

re: #67 Balfour Rage

I’ll go 350

RBS

71 Bubblehead II  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:43:04pm

re: #63 Gus

Phil Robertson with corn dog and Michele Bachmann eyes and a French manicure. Bidding starts at $250K.

FTFY

72 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:43:59pm

re: #71 Bubblehead II

Phil Robertson with corn dog and Michele Bachmann eyes and a French manicure. Bidding starts at $250K.

FTFY

Yeah. Oh well. Works with the eyes. :D

73 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:44:38pm

Duck meat corn dog of course. //

74 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:45:02pm

Heck. Phil’s already used to putting things in his mouth. //

75 dog philosopher  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:46:17pm

phil robertson has so much free speech that his blather is ringing in my ears

76 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:48:54pm
77 dog philosopher  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:49:42pm

re: #53 Gus

This image was found in the basement

i tend to think that i should not attempt to view this

78 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:50:10pm
79 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:50:38pm

More Republican rebranding!

80 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:51:07pm

re: #77 dog philosopher

i tend to think that i should not attempt to view this

Up to you.

81 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:51:16pm

re: #79 Balfour Rage

More Republican rebranding!

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WTF???

82 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:51:41pm

re: #79 Balfour Rage

More Republican rebranding!

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23,606 followers!

83 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:52:07pm

re: #82 Gus

Yeah but how many are REAL?

84 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:52:10pm

Possibly the only appropriate response. NSFW.

Youtube Video

85 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:53:01pm

re: #82 Gus

23,606 followers!

You need to retweet this bullshit, you have tons of followers. Justine last Friday, this maniac tonight.

86 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:53:26pm

There certainly is no “art” here and little entertainment, either.

aetv.com

87 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:53:34pm
88 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:54:29pm

re: #87 Balfour Rage

Parody account?

89 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:54:54pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

Yeah I remember when A&E used to be waaaay different. Same with MTV and the History Channel.

90 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:55:41pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

Parody account?

Not even close.

91 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:56:02pm

re: #90 Balfour Rage

Dammit.

92 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:56:37pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah I remember when A&E used to be waaaay different. Same with MTV and the History Channel.

And Bravo, too. Seems like a century ago…

93 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:56:58pm

re: #76 Gus

Pussy Riots imprisonment is a real issue of free speech. That’s why America will get bogged down by defending a racist homophobe.

*barf

94 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:57:12pm

re: #85 Balfour Rage

You need to retweet this bullshit, you have tons of followers. Justine last Friday, this maniac tonight.

OK. Done. Now let’s see how many people unfollow me. :D

95 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:57:40pm
96 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:58:05pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

Nothing but garbage. Lowest bid vessels to deliver advertisements.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:58:31pm

re: #82 Gus

23,606 followers!

Lots of crazy there.
Even more crazy in who she follows.
o_O

98 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 4:59:11pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

Parody account?

Nope, genuine winger in its native habitat.

99 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:01:09pm
100 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:02:25pm
101 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:04:35pm

re: #94 Gus

Gus, how did you format her tweet in your tweet? I want to do the same. Screenshot???

102 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:04:43pm

re: #76 Gus

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That’s the price of regimes violating free speech. Pussy Riot was imprisoned for criticizing the government in Russia. They were released at Putin’s behest.

103 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:05:26pm

re: #101 Balfour Rage

Gus, how did you format her tweet in your tweet? I want to do the same. Screenshot???

I copy and paste the Tweet link.

104 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:06:01pm
105 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:06:19pm

There ain’t no difference since ‘73!

Youtube Video

106 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:07:04pm

Jindal voters no doubt.

107 AlexRogan  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:07:41pm

re: #104 Gus

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WTFIS?!?

What moronic imbeciles.

108 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:07:58pm

re: #92 Justanotherhuman

And Bravo, too. Seems like a century ago…

A lot of cable TV channels have become a blur. Time was, you watched MTV for music videos, History channel for hIstory, A&E for quasi-PBS-y stuff, Discovery for quasi-Nat Geo stuff. Now, it makes little difference which one you choose. The programming is nearly the same.

Oh, remember when “SyFy” used to show, well, science fiction? Those were the days.

109 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:08:17pm

re: #104 Gus

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The Stupid! It Buuuurns!

110 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:08:47pm

re: #107 AlexRogan

WTFIS?!?

What moronic imbeciles.

Yes.

…A significant chunk of Louisiana Republicans evidently believe that President Barack Obama is to blame for the poor response to the hurricane that ravaged their state more than three years before he took office.

The latest survey from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling, provided exclusively to TPM, showed an eye-popping divide among Republicans in the Bayou State when it comes to accountability for the government’s post-Katrina blunders.

Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame….

111 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:09:10pm

Duck Dynasty is back on the air. I will still not be watching. Didn’t watch before. Wont watch going forward. Nothing has changed, except that I now feel confident in not watching because it would be giving money to a racist and bigoted homophobe.

112 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:09:34pm

re: #110 Gus

44% say they aren’t sure who to blame. Oops. They were referring to the federal response. Typing faster than my reading comprehension. :P

113 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:11:40pm

re: #112 Balfour Rage

44% say they aren’t sure >who to blame. It was a fucking hurricane!!!

I’m going with Satan, myself.
/

114 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:12:19pm

MTV has never devoted one program to giving lessons on playing an instrument.

115 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:12:47pm

re: #102 lawhawk

That’s the price of regimes violating free speech. Pussy Riot was imprisoned for criticizing the government in Russia. They were released at Putin’s behest.

And so the difference “Putin” and the “government of Russia” is…?

As to cause:

There’s a Winter Olympics coming up in month or so. Where is it being held…?

116 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:13:20pm


At the link:

Louisiana Film Tax Incentives Help Create “Hollywood South”

117 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:13:51pm

re: #114 Amory Blaine

MTV has never devoted one program to giving lessons on playing an instrument.

You know, I’m not sure any cable channel has done that. Seems like there would be viewers for such a thing.

118 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:14:19pm
119 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:16:01pm

re: #108 wheat-dogghazi

A lot of cable TV channels have become a blur. Time was, you watched MTV for music videos, History channel for hIstory, A&E for quasi-PBS-y stuff, Discovery for quasi-Nat Geo stuff. Now, it makes little difference which one you choose. The programming is nearly the same.

Oh, remember when “SyFy” used to show, well, science fiction? Those were the days.

Yep, Discovery / Nat Geo / History all the rest have totally lost sight of what their original mission brief was. During the last Shark Week they went so far as to present a totally fictitious story about a megalodon like it was true.

We need an LFG Network, with Pies, Photoshops and Punditry.

LGF Network, Where the Facts come to life!

RBS

120 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:16:59pm

Well, A&E should change its name to “The Bigotry Channel”, I suppose.

Junk TV—easy to produce, not much cost involved since you can get State govts to help fund it. I mean, why do you think there are so many “shows” about Alaska?

One half-hour show would suffice for any and all of the premises these shows are based on—not an entire series for several seasons, for crying out loud.

For instance, do I want to watch people’s pathologies being broadcast nationwide, like “Hoarders”, for instance? That is little more than cruel exploitation.

re: #96 Amory Blaine

Nothing but garbage. Lowest bid vessels to deliver advertisements.

Totally correct assessment.

121 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:17:43pm

I gave up cable for usenet years ago (shhh). I’ve exposed my family to alot of foreign programming.

122 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:18:48pm

re: #118 Balfour Rage

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I’m enjoying Eric Christian Smith. Quite the sharp wit. (Hell, sharp? Steppin’ Razor!)

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:18:51pm

Seen on FB and somehow it seems fitting for this thread…

124 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:19:40pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

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At the link:

Well, at least NC has a burgeoning film industry, concentrated mostly in Wilmington, but filming goes on all over the State. Major motion pictures have been produced here; I don’t think any “reality” shows have been.

125 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:20:32pm

Remember when Java chat scripts seemed like pretty cool technology?

Using one right now to talk to my cable company and man, does this thing look like crap.

126 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:22:25pm

The logic disconnect in this tweet is beyond stunning in its awesome sauce level of clueless.

127 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:23:16pm

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

Well, A&E should change its name to “The Bigotry Channel”, I suppose.

Junk TV—easy to produce, not much cost involved since you can get State govts to help fund it. I mean, why do you think there are so many “shows” about Alaska?

One half-hour show would suffice for any and all of the premises these shows are based on—not an entire series for several seasons, for crying out loud.

For instance, do I want to watch people’s pathologies being broadcast nationwide, like “Hoarders”, for instance? That is little more than cruel exploitation.

Totally correct assessment.

Many of these shows waste time recapping what happened before the commercial break, then proceeding with the “story.” If they took out the commercial breaks, and piled the ads near the ends of the program (as they do in other countries), the actual program would be about a half hour long.

In a similar vein, most broadcast TV dramas are about 42 minutes long, or less, once you account for the beginning and ending credits and the commercials. That’s 18 minutes of story-telling lost.

128 nines09  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:24:29pm

re: #104 Gus

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That’s why the GOP don’t need no facts. Their base wouldn’t know anyway.

129 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:24:32pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

The logic disconnect in this tweet is beyond stunning in its awesome sauce level of clueless.

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See #116 for even more disconnect.

130 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:24:42pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

But a week ago, A&E represented big Hollywood with their “homosexual agenda”. Now they’re the official sponsor of Wolverines!!

131 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:26:24pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seen on FB and somehow it seems fitting for this thread…

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Hell, it used to be that if you didn’t DIE, you could only get an “Honorable Mention” in the Annual Darwin Awards.

Pitiful decline in standards, IMHO.

(But that *is* funny as hell. And since it’s the holiday season…)

“Shitter’s full!”

132 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:26:32pm

re: #127 wheat-dogghazi

Many of these shows waste time recapping what happened before the commercial break, then proceeding with the “story.” If they took out the commercial breaks, and piled the ads near the ends of the program (as they do in other countries), the actual program would be about a half hour long.

In a similar vein, most broadcast TV dramas are about 42 minutes long, or less, once you account for the beginning and ending credits and the commercials. That’s 18 minutes of story-telling lost.

Brits having fun with American style recap filler
Gift Shop Sketch
Youtube Video

133 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:27:03pm

Wait! I found it…

134 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:27:08pm
135 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:27:53pm

re: #104 Gus

If they polled people about the causes of the Civil War, or WWII, and put Obama’s name as one of the possible answers, I’d bet a respectable percentage would choose his name.

136 A Mom Anon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:28:33pm

re: #134 Gus

Water is wet, bears crap where they want to and people are freaking nuts.

137 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:29:25pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Brits having fun with American style recap filler
Gift Shop Sketch
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Brilliant!

138 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:30:40pm

I’m thinking we need to start coming up with some programming for LFG Network. I mean, we can’t ask VB to carry the entire network with pies.

Here are a few…

Wrenching with the Wench… A traveloge / educational show featuring WW showing beautiful bicycles and rides, and teaching basic bike maintence.

Amazing Pictures Gus doing a series of shows on the beauty and wonder that is PhotoShop. I see a “Bob Ross” type show, with his famous tag line “And we’ll put a happy little corndog here”

Open Mike with Charles Each week Charles will entertain with both song and coding. Be prepared for guests to drop in and play the ever popular “Debug that error” game.

Other ideas?

RBS

139 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:31:15pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

140 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:31:20pm

re: #134 Gus

I believe she’s quoting Oxford University’s Chancellor.

141 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:33:02pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Brits having fun with American style recap filler
Gift Shop Sketch
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I am literally LOLing at this. Oh damn, now my sides are hurting.


RBS

142 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:33:21pm
143 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:34:17pm

re: #142 Gus

I am an American voter. Of course I don’t remember.

144 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:35:02pm

re: #63 Gus

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Zimmerman supposedly got over $100,000 on ebay for his “work”. You should put yours up for auction; what have you got to lose (except my 10% fee for giving you the idea if you sell it).

145 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:37:22pm
146 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:37:33pm

Poor stalkers are agitated.

147 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:38:25pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

I am an American voter. Of course I don’t remember.

Might have been volcano rather than volcanic but yes. :D

148 Bubblehead II  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:38:27pm

re: #144 Skip Intro

Zimmerman supposedly got over $100,000 on ebay for his “work”. You should put yours up for auction; what have you got to lose (except my 10% fee for giving you the idea if you sell it).

And my modest 1.5% for pointing out he had a French manicure as well :-)

149 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:41:10pm

re: #111 lawhawk

Duck Dynasty is back on the air. I will still not be watching. Didn’t watch before. Wont watch going forward. Nothing has changed, except that I now feel confident in not watching because it would be giving money to a racist and bigoted homophobe.

Uh, it never went away. In fact, A&E started running 12 hour marathons of the show just to let everyone know that they’re weren’t fucking around.

150 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:41:36pm

Later, lizards.

151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:42:06pm

re: #144 Skip Intro

Zimmerman supposedly got over $100,000 on ebay for his “work”. You should put yours up for auction; what have you got to lose (except my 10% fee for giving you the idea if you sell it).

Scuppers his chances of getting a court appointed lawyer next time he is charged with something…

152 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:42:13pm

re: #142 Gus

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Oh yeah…

Youtube Video

Worst response speech in history?

153 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:42:46pm

re: #152 Justanotherhuman

Oh yeah…

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Worst response speech in history?

The infamous Howdy Doody response. :D

154 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:42:50pm
155 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:43:13pm

re: #117 wheat-dogghazi

You know, I’m not sure any cable channel has done that. Seems like there would be viewers for such a thing.

Yeah, but would they buy gold or magic cleaning rags for $19.95 (but if you call right now we’ll send you two for the price of one. Operators are standing by).

156 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:43:21pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

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His life hasn’t changed. He’s still the asshole he always was.

157 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:43:23pm

the demographic that likes this show is the same demographic that believes the Andy Griffith Show was some sort of documentary- overwhelmingly white, content to admire a world where black and brown colored people do not exist, or if they do, serve as service personnel.

It is not a demographic prepared to function with the outside World, or prosper.

It is a large plurality of America. It is the main reason why the USA is struggling to prosper or evolve compared to juggernauts like Manufacturing Germany and Finance-UK. These “Old World” countries are adapting and evolving. Under Government direction and private company cooperation, they are setting themselves up for future prosperity. The US meanwhile is spasming a in a collective fit. A Hard Right Duck Dynasty plurality is content to live in the 1950’s. The rest of the country struggles to drag the whole body into the 21st Century. It is a struggle that will last at least another 20 years as the Baby Boomer Generation ages and finally passes on.

158 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:49:33pm
159 Kid A  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:51:03pm

re: #122 austin_blue

I’m enjoying Eric Christian Smith. Quite the sharp wit. (Hell, sharp? Steppin’ Razor!)

That would be me, and thank you very much!

160 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:55:55pm
161 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:58:48pm
162 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:02:59pm

re: #138 RealityBasedSteve

I’m thinking we need to start coming up with some programming for LFG Network. I mean, we can’t ask VB to carry the entire network with pies.

Here are a few…

>Wrenching with the Wench… A traveloge / educational show featuring WW showing beautiful bicycles and rides, and teaching basic bike maintence.

>Amazing Pictures Gus doing a series of shows on the beauty and wonder that is PhotoShop. I see a “Bob Ross” type show, with his famous tag line “And we’ll put a happy little corndog here”

>Open Mike with Charles Each week Charles will entertain with both song and coding. Be prepared for guests to drop in and play the ever popular “Debug that error” game.

Other ideas?

RBS

We should add a call-in/news show. This Week in Feline Overlords

163 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:03:17pm
164 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:03:25pm

re: #157 Rocky-in-Connecticut

A Hard Right Duck Dynasty plurality is content to live in the 1950’s.

If only back to the 1950’s that would be one thing, but many of the Robertson worldview adherents would prefer the 1850’s.

165 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:06:31pm

I can’t believe the difference between this repaired monitor and its twin that’s been operating for years. The older one looks yellowed and faded compared to the one that just had its display panel replaced. Amazing what you can gradually get used to.

166 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:10:08pm

Just so everybody knows who they’re playing with, A&E Networks - which is owned by Hearst Corp. and Disney Inc. - are the same people who bring you the History channel.

You know, the History channel, where you learn about Earth’s past with Ancient Aliens, UFOs, and other turning points in human history.

167 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:11:15pm

re: #10 Political Atheist

Sadly, this was inevitable. It’s about dollars not anything else. Entertainment is as soulless as energy at the corporate level. A&E had more to lose than the Robinsons. All else from them was thin window dressing.

How many advertisers will bail out? What did the ratings do? Merch sales? The right thing to do was never in play at A&E.

It was best said 28 years ago:

The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason.

Which is more or less true. For the most part, they are dirty little animals with huge brains and no pulse.

Hunter S. Thompson, Generation of Swine: Tales of Shame and Degradation in the ’80s , Page 43

168 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:13:17pm

re: #166 freetoken

Just so everybody knows who they’re playing with, A&E Networks - which is owned by Hearst Corp. and Disney Inc. - are the same people who bring you the History channel.

You know, the History channel, where you learn about Earth’s history with Ancient Aliens, UFOs, and other turning points in human history.

169 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:13:33pm

America has a God-problem.

170 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:17:47pm
171 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:17:53pm

re: #168 Gus

But man the bullshit looks so good on my super HD plasma. Hitler’s Mustache looks like BX cables!!!

172 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:18:05pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I can’t believe the difference between this repaired monitor and its twin that’s been operating for years. The older one looks yellowed and faded compared to the one that just had its display panel replaced. Amazing what you can gradually get used to.

Think that’s something? Wait until you have a cataract replaced with a new lens.

173 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:18:50pm

Up in CL’s page on atheism:
littlegreenfootballs.com
I offered up the famous Marx quote on religion.

As if we actually need to keep reproving Marx over and over, A&E and Duck Dynasty is yet another drop coming out of the opiate drip-chamber.

174 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:19:16pm

re: #138 RealityBasedSteve

I’m thinking we need to start coming up with some programming for LFG Network. I mean, we can’t ask VB to carry the entire network with pies.

Here are a few…

>Wrenching with the Wench… A traveloge / educational show featuring WW showing beautiful bicycles and rides, and teaching basic bike maintence.

>Amazing Pictures Gus doing a series of shows on the beauty and wonder that is PhotoShop. I see a “Bob Ross” type show, with his famous tag line “And we’ll put a happy little corndog here”

>Open Mike with Charles Each week Charles will entertain with both song and coding. Be prepared for guests to drop in and play the ever popular “Debug that error” game.

Other ideas?

RBS

The Fauxtograph of the week

The Velvet Jacket Page Pimp
Best of the Pages reviewed

175 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:19:23pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

I can’t believe the difference between this repaired monitor and its twin that’s been operating for years. The older one looks yellowed and faded compared to the one that just had its display panel replaced. Amazing what you can gradually get used to.

I imagine it’s a lot like before I had the cataract taken out and the plastic lens put in. I didn’t realize how much lack of sharpness I had lost, how the colors had gotten so muted. It was probably as big a difference as you’re looking at right now, if not more. I actually cried the the day after the surgery with how beautiful everything is.

Except for me that is. I really look better in a “Moonlighting” soft focus.

RBS

176 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:20:30pm

re: #170 Gus

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177 Skip Intro  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:20:38pm

re: #166 freetoken

Just so everybody knows who they’re playing with, A&E Networks - which is owned by Hearst Corp. and Disney Inc. - are the same people who bring you the History channel.

You know, the History channel, where you learn about Earth’s past with Ancient Aliens, UFOs, and other turning points in human history.

The same woman - Nancy Dubuc - runs both networks and has put her special touch on them both. Pure garbage, repeated endlessly, seven days a week.

They’re making a fortune, of course.

178 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:20:38pm

re: #172 Skip Intro

Think that’s something? Wait until you have a cataract replaced with a new lens.

I didn’t see your post, but +bunches

RBS

179 Bubblehead II  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:21:22pm

Night Lizards

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

180 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:22:07pm

re: #177 Skip Intro

The same woman - Nancy Dubuc runs both networks and has put her special touch on them both. Pure garbage, repeated endlessly, seven days a week.

They’ making a fortune, of course.

Youtube Video

181 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:22:24pm

The IBT runs with the Pauley wiki page shenanigans:

Judge’s Wikipedia Page Vandalized After Ruling In Favor Of NSA Surveillance

182 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:23:07pm

Hey, look who gets credit:

One vandal protested the decision by changing Judge Pauley’s biography to note that he was a “Terrorist, Enemy of the People, and The Constitution of the United States,” first reported by LittleGreenFootball’s Charles Johnson.

183 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:24:34pm

LGF get’s hat-tipped by a NYT outfit - the dudebros are going to be not happy.

EDIT — The IBT is not the IHT, which I had thought.

184 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:24:58pm

re: #173 freetoken

Up in CL’s page on atheism:
littlegreenfootballs.com
I offered up the famous Marx quote on religion.

As if we actually need to keep reproving Marx over and over, A&E and Duck Dynasty is yet another drop coming out of the opiate drip-chamber.

If atheism is a luxury for the wealthy then I wonder how the Catholic church amassed billions in gold and land. How the LDS church has amassed billions. How my father basically stopped sending us to Catholic school because he couldn’t afford the tuition. How I became an atheist when I was 8 years old when were living in some crappy neighborhood in Ulster Country, NY and my mom finally had to start working so we could make ends meet. How now, I’m living like a hobo and still an atheist albeit one that rarely talking about atheism because I don’t see the point and various other personal reasons.

185 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:25:00pm

I wonder what this is about

Libyan Government Holds 4 U.S. Military Personnel

186 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:27:17pm

I’m working on college entrance essays with/for my daughter. Help me. Please. Or just kill me. Now.

187 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:28:31pm

‘The Bible’ tops ‘American Idol’ in Nielsen ratings

NEW YORK - In the latest television ratings, the Bible is hot and aspiring pop stars are not.
The History network’s first installment of the miniseries “The Bible” aired twice Sunday, for a total audience of 14.8 million people — topping both of last week’s episodes of “American Idol.”
…

Mostly due to curiosity about the series, History’s website had its most visited day ever on Sunday, said Nancy Dubuc, president of entertainment and media for the A&E networks.
“Clearly, the passion for this project has resonated with our viewers and across the nation,” Ms. Dubuc said. “We are thrilled, and the story is only just beginning.”

The show was produced by the creator of “Survivor”, which had Satan looking like someone.. I can’t quite place it..

188 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:28:40pm

re: #182 freetoken

Hey, look who gets credit:

From the article:

Neither of the recent vandals targeting Judge Pauley’s Wikipedia entry came from government computers — one of the edits was made from New York and the other from California.

I think Gus determined that one of the IPs was Canada, not California.

189 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:29:01pm

Four Americans Arrested in Al-Ajailat West of Tripoli in Libya

According to Omar Al-Mukhtar, the head of the Sabratha Military Council, the incident occurred when two SUVs were stopped at a checkpoint of Shebaika and each was carrying two foreigners.

The persons were armed and carried communication equipment.
…
Postings on social media have accused the four Americans as spies and questioned the reason behind their venturing away from the capital tripoli.

One vehicle, Toyota Land cruiser, carrying two people tried to escape but it was chased and stopped near Sabratha city where the security people from Ajailat arrested the two Americans in the car which was later set on fire.

190 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:29:56pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

From the article:

I think Gus determined that one of the IPs was Canada, not California.

Yep.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:30:17pm
192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:31:26pm

re: #190 Gus

Yep.

Well, they both start with “Ca”…common mistake…
//

193 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:32:08pm

Whoops, I should have said that IBT is owned by IBT media. I confused it with the similarly named International New York Times which was formerly the International Herald.

IBT is what bought out Newsweek.

194 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:32:10pm

Essay: How religion helped keep the poor in poverty.

195 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:32:22pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Four Americans Arrested in Al-Ajailat West of Tripoli in Libya

It’s possible they were trying some covert strike against a identified terrorist leader but did so without letting the locals know.

196 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:32:54pm

re: #194 Gus

Essay: How religion helped keep the poor in poverty.

Baloney!

197 Amory Blaine  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:33:26pm

re: #194 Gus

Don’t waste a single drop.

198 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:34:11pm

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

It’s possible they were trying some covert strike against a identified terrorist leader but did so without letting the locals know.

It could be anything. There are plenty of militias, militant leaders in the country. I couldn’t even venture a guess what they were up to.

199 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:36:49pm

Turkey’s political turmoil may be tied to its relations with Iran

An interesting theory…

“The Turks have made it very clear that they are opposed to the Iranian nuclear program,” Schanzer says. “They have also been at odds with the Iranians over the civil war in Syria, but at the same time we heard about this gas for gold scheme.”

He says the Turks were relying on the US for many years to unseat Bashar al-Assad of Syria. “When the United States determined that it was not going to intervene militarily, the Turks I think saw that as a turning point and it looks like now they may be more willing to work with the Iranians, since the Iranians are likely to be a power in the region, if things continue to go the way they are now.”

200 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:39:52pm

re: #198 Killgore Trout

It could be anything. There are plenty of militias, militant leaders in the country. I couldn’t even venture a guess what they were up to.

The one thing I feel safe in saying: The Americans set their own vehicle on fire, and they did so to keep sensitive information and equipment out of Libyan hands. Some of the gear SOCOM has access to would be worth a fortune if corrupt Libyan forces were able to get it to a buyer. Russia or China would dearly love to get their hands on some of that.

201 Stanley Sea  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:40:23pm
202 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:41:57pm

I was going to watch the Blackhawks game, but they’re already winning 7-1 at the end of the second period. Colorado is just getting obliterated tonight.

Ottawa also had a bad night, as Boston stomped them 5-0.

203 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:43:12pm

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

The one thing I feel safe in saying: The Americans set their own vehicle on fire, and they did so to keep sensitive information and equipment out of Libyan hands. Some of the gear SOCOM has access to would be worth a fortune if corrupt Libyan forces were able to get it to a buyer. Russia or China would dearly love to get their hands on some of that.

Ah, good theory. I couldn’t make sense of the car fire.

205 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:45:26pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“He kept asking me where his bottle of Romulan Ale was … “

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:47:36pm

re: #205 William Barnett-Lewis

“He kept asking me where his bottle of Romulan Ale was … “

I’m just happy that an anal prob wasn’t involved…

207 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:50:00pm

re: #172 Skip Intro

Think that’s something? Wait until you have a cataract replaced with a new lens.

Do I have to?

208 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:52:02pm

I think I’ve found Phil Robertson’s next shotgun:

Gun Review: The Intrepid RAS-12 shotgun is worth working with (VIDEO)

Let’s start with a look at the problems the designers face when trying to convert the AR platform to 12 gauge. The lower of an AR-15 isn’t really large enough to handle the physical size of a 12-gauge shell. We would then need a reliable way to feed 12 gauge shells from either a tube or box (or, potentially a belt). The rimmed 12-gauge shell doesn’t stack up neatly in a box magazine. The belt is a bit extreme. A tube, which has been proven to be the most efficient, won’t really work with an AR lower.

The Intrepid RAS-12 system requires an AR-10 style lower. The one for our test gun is a DPMS. That’s hefty enough to handle the size of the 12-gauge shell and the recoil. The upper is built by Intrepid. The gun uses a box magazine, too, which has been heavily modified to fit the final solution: a custom shaped 12-gauge round.

SNIP

A new kind of 12 gauge

RAS-12 ammunition is a 2 3/4-inch 12-gauge shell made entirely of polymer. No brass. Inside are nine OO buckshot pellets. The round reaches speeds of 1,200 fps.

The nose of the shell has a polymer cap that is shaped like old-school ball ammo. It is domed over to allow it to feed into the chamber. We ran all of our test rounds and had no issues at all with feeding. One of the things that Intrepid expects in the break-in period, which is just 50 rounds, is slow feeds or jams. The tolerances are tight and they say (we didn’t experience it at all) that the first round may require an assist to get it seated fully.

The other oddity here is that the shells don’t have rims. The rim on a 12-gauge shell creates all kinds of potential problems. So these are shaped like most automatic pistol cartridges. The extractor works like it would on a typical automatic rifle. We didn’t have any failures to eject either.

Bolding in original. I’m sure they’d make birdshot rounds if it would get the shotgun upper featured on Duck Dynasty. Its being based on the ‘scary’ AR-10 platform will make it desirable for a certain kind of wingnut.

209 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:54:08pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

That’s perfect!

210 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 6:54:37pm

Yes, Hefferman really is a creationist is the sense that word is most often used:

She said she was a creationist. Then the firestorm began.

[…]

I say that I also had read “The Origins of Species,” and found that it didn’t address the origin of the cosmos of the origin of human consciousness—the two places that most stir the mind and heart. By contrast, I felt satisfied and inspired by the origin stories in the Bible.

[…]

And then she laments how her science journalist peers treated her.

It’s just a softball interview by Al.com, who want to cater to the Christian-victimization crowd.

211 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:00:15pm

Brother remarked on FB:

“Stopped at the House of Curries on Court Street in Binghamton on the way home. A literal hole in the wall with excellent food. Did not experiment beyond the buffet, but you must love a menu that says: “so hot that your eyes will bleed.”

Anyone have any previous experience with this place? I might just have to time my next trip in order to give it a shot.

212 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:00:44pm

213 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:01:04pm

Real-life Tony Stark makes Iron Man laser weapons from home

Making laser weapons started as a hobby, but after one lab technician lost his job it became a full-time career.

Patrick Priebe, 30, made his first laser weapon after he saw the television series, Battlestar Galactica (the original series from the 70s). Since then he has made replicas of the gauntlets used by Tony Stark in the movie “Iron Man” that are powerful enough to pop balloons and burn holes in black t-shirts, Yahoo reports.

After Priebe was fired from his job as a lab technician, he founded Laser-Gadgets.com and now builds custom pieces of work full-time. He says his inventions aren’t intended to be used as weapons, though they can cause a nasty burn or serious eye damage if used improperly.

Youtube Video

214 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:02:10pm

re: #186 Iwouldprefernotto

I’m working on college entrance essays with/for my daughter. Help me. Please. Or just kill me. Now.

I feel your pain, having read scads of them for my students over the years.

215 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:02:45pm

re: #212 Gus

Is that a “find Waldo Phil” picture?

216 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:03:42pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

France can have them.

217 Gus  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:03:55pm

Title: Southern justice and the president’s veto of the military government bill / Th. Nast.
Creator(s): Nast, Thomas, 1840-1902, artist
Date Created/Published: 1867.
Medium: 11 prints (2 pages) : wood engraving.
Summary: Prints show a statue of a snake-haired man wearing a toga with a CSA belt holding a scale tipping in favor of the south; the unjust results of trials involving southerners and northerners; and depictions of atrocities committed against African Americans.
Reproduction Number: LC-USZ62-138359 (b&w film copy neg.)
Rights Advisory: No known restrictions on publication.
Call Number: Illus. in AP2.H32 (Case Y) [P&P]
Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA hdl.loc.gov
Notes:

Title from item.
Illus. in: Harper’s weekly, v. 11, no. 534 (1867 Mar. 23), pp. 184-185.

218 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:05:35pm

re: #212 Gus

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Liberty Leading The People, an 1830 French work. The photo shows a rather French version of Liberty, in that her nipples are clearly visible. I don’t say that to be prudish, but very few American painters would allow the female symbol of Liberty to be topless.

219 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:05:45pm

Friday Night Hummingbirds
While visiting near Laguna we stayed at a place that has a feeder out. It had run dry so we made some simple syrup and refilled it. Within a couple hours the birds were at it. Had to use some fill flash and a tripod the scene was strongly back-lit. This was using our 400mm telephoto. Very happy with its fast focus and sharpness. This was Dragon_Ladys first good long session with the new lens. Really making use of the more advanced focus options the 7D has, like setting a zone where it will lock on whatever is moving. Very helpful feature.

220 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:07:10pm

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

Liberty Leading The People, an 1830 French work. The photo shows a rather French version of Liberty, in that her nipples are clearly visible. I don’t say that to be prudish, but very few American painters would allow the female symbol of Liberty to be topless.

Neo-classicists imitated the Greeks in their depiction of the human form.

221 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:08:16pm

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi

Neo-classicists imitated the Greeks in their depiction of the human form.

The ‘human form’ is a sinful thing.

So there.

222 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:09:03pm

re: #217 Gus

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Brutal stuff. Nast’s condemnation of anti-black racism and political corruption played a major role in shifting attitudes in New York City.

But Thomas Nast was himself a bigot, as he hated Catholics in general and the Irish in specific.

223 Kragar  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:10:50pm

Spent the last few hours making some homemade beef and barley soup using the left over roast from Christmas.

224 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:12:23pm

re: #221 freetoken

The ‘human form’ is a sinful thing.

So there.

I didn’t say that, but there are still many in the US who would be scandalized by a depiction of Liberty’s ‘female components’.

There are also the more juvenile males who would reduce the depicted female to a Seth MacFarlane-esque “We saw yer boobs!”.

225 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:13:25pm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

The boobs of liberty nourish the masses.

226 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:14:39pm

re: #225 freetoken

The boobs of liberty nourish the masses.

I ain’t gonna touch that one with a 10-foot pole.

227 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:17:27pm

re: #221 freetoken

The ‘human form’ is a sinful thing.

So there.

Cultural attitudes about nudity vary widely. The Greeks had no problem with nudity in sculpture, but the revealing clothing of Spartan women apparently scandalized other Greeks. (Spartan women wore a simple length of cloth with an opening for the head, belted around the waist. No undergarments, it seems.)

Meanwhile, the Israelites had Adam and Eve traipsing around naked in the Garden until the big fruit episode, then they became embarrassed and covered up. (And they tried to hide from God behind some bushes. Silly kids.)

Spinning ahead to the 19th century, neoclassic painting and sculpture often portrayed women (mostly) nude or partially nude, but even the French then would draw the line about walking around Paris, or even the beach, in the buff. In the next century, though, they invented the bikini.

228 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:18:01pm

re: #216 Internet Tough Guy

France can have them.

They probably can. I’m no fan of the House d’Saud but our friendship with them has given us a lot of economic benefits in the past. Losing those benefits probably isn’t going to gain us much. Even if we trade our Saudi pals for new Iranian BFF’s, I’m not sure that’s an improvement.

229 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:20:30pm

Ultra atavists/creationist gonna run agin’ in Okie:

Owasso Republican makes a bid to become Governor

My promise as governor is to protect Oklahoma families from the overreach of federal and state government and to restore your God given unalienable rights of life, liberty and property.

Because the current Oklahoma theocrats evidently have failed to be God-y enough.

230 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:22:02pm

We’ve covered Brogdon before - he’s one of the most ardent creationists in OK politics.

231 freetoken  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:30:57pm

I’m not sure anyone caught the latest PaleoPat opinion piece, but it ought to leave no doubt about the “Paleo” part.

232 Good Morning  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:34:32pm

I thought releasing the new rainbow themed Duck Commander kazoo thingy was nice gesture that should be recognized by the LBGT community.

233 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:39:48pm

You wouldn’t believe the controversy that this statue got when it was put in a big traffic circle in Nashville. It’s called “The Muses” and it’s located in the part of town know as Music Row. There were people calling in to the radio and writing the paper that “That pornograpy has no place in Nashville”.

It was really quite amusing.

RBS
Who went in the shop with his good khakis on, just to do one quick thing, and managed to get red enamel paint on them. ARRRGH

234 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 7:54:57pm

re: #233 RealityBasedSteve

You wouldn’t believe the controversy that this statue got when it was put in a big traffic circle in Nashville. It’s called “The Muses” and it’s located in the part of town know as Music Row. There were people calling in to the radio and writing the paper that “That pornograpy has no place in Nashville”.

It was really quite amusing.

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RBS
Who went in the shop with his good khakis on, just to do one quick thing, and managed to get red enamel paint on them. ARRRGH

Did anyone try to put clothes or something over their naughty bits?

In a similar vein, I remember watching My Father, the Hero on separate occasions. The premise was a teenage girl (Katherine Heigl) spending time with her absent father (Gerard Departdieu) for the first time. It being France, she dared to wear a thong swimsuit on the beach. The first time I saw the flick, Heigl really was wearing a thong. But when I saw the same movie on the Disney channel, her thong had miraculously become a somewhat indistinct bikini bottom.

235 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 8:00:03pm

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi

Did anyone try to put clothes or something over their naughty bits?

Yes. In 2010 on St. Paddys day a local band dress them in kilts and peasant tops. Has happened a couple more times too.

And I was wrong on the name, it’s Musica, not The Muses.

RBS

236 palomino  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 8:56:58pm

Jindal as usual is full of shit. The left wasn’t screaming about free speech when Alec Baldwin or Martin Bashir got fired. For one simple reason: it’s not a free speech issue. There is no govt. involvement here, which means the constitution doesn’t apply…it’s all about private corps. and who they want to hire/fire.

In this case, there’s no way A&E would cancel its one real hit show.

237 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 9:23:23pm

re: #42 Amory Blaine

David Duke could guest star. They could hunt beavers together and give us words of wisdom. O_0

Nutria

238 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 9:41:09pm

re: #138 RealityBasedSteve

I’m thinking we need to start coming up with some programming for LFG Network. I mean, we can’t ask VB to carry the entire network with pies.

Here are a few…

>Wrenching with the Wench… A traveloge / educational show featuring WW showing beautiful bicycles and rides, and teaching basic bike maintence.

>Amazing Pictures Gus doing a series of shows on the beauty and wonder that is PhotoShop. I see a “Bob Ross” type show, with his famous tag line “And we’ll put a happy little corndog here”

>Open Mike with Charles Each week Charles will entertain with both song and coding. Be prepared for guests to drop in and play the ever popular “Debug that error” game.

Other ideas?

RBS

239 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Dec 27, 2013 9:45:14pm

Well that went well.
[posting on a handheld is still dicey]

240 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sat, Dec 28, 2013 5:40:49am

re: #164 freetoken

the 1950’s South was a lot like the 1850’s country as a whole.


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