The Gorgeous Voice of Sarah Jarosz: ‘Ring Them Bells’

Another beautiful solo performance on octave mandolin
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Sarah Jarosz’s acoustic performance of “Ring Them Bells” for Vanguard and Sugar Hill Record’s The Americana Sessions recorded and taped at Minutia Studios in Nashville, TN.

From Sarah Jarosz’s 2011 ‘Follow Me Down’ available on Sugar Hill Records.

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317 comments
1 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:40:26pm

This amazon prime thing being a sticky is very confusing.

My brain does not like.

2 RinaX  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:44:20pm

Is that what happened? I got confused, too.

3 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:47:32pm

Yeah, I’m working on that. It will probably change soon to a less confusing way of doing it.

4 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:47:32pm

I think perhaps some border in a different color, green shading in the background or title showing it as ‘“sticky” post would help.

5 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:48:13pm

Yeah, I think the green shading would work best.

6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:48:20pm

Come on in! The water’s just fine!

7 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:50:01pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Come on in! The water’s just fine!

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Holy Fuck!

8 Single-handed sailor  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:50:53pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Come on in! The water’s just fine!

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Leopard sharks are common on the So Cal coast, they are mostly harmless.

9 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:52:17pm

Right-wing biblical illiterates would be shocked by Jesus’ teachings …if they ever picked up a Bible

More than 95 percent of U.S. households own at least one copy of the Bible. So how much do Americans know of the book that one-third of the country believes to be literally true? Apparently, very little, according to data from the Barna Research group. Surveys show that 60 percent can’t name more than five of the Ten Commandments; 12 percent of adults think Joan of Arc was Noah’s wife; and nearly 50 percent of high school seniors think Sodom and Gomorrah were a married couple. A Gallup poll shows 50 percent of Americans can’t name the first book of the Bible, while roughly 82 percent believe “God helps those who help themselves” is a biblical verse.

So, if Americans get an F in the basic fundamentals of the Bible, what hope do they have in knowing what Jesus would say about labor unions, taxes on the rich, universal healthcare, and food stamps? It becomes easy to spread a lie when no one knows what the truth is.

10 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:52:56pm

bbl

11 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:53:55pm

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

Holy Fuck!

I’d faint.

12 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:54:51pm

A lot of people on Twitter are like a broken political ad. Non-stop argle bargle and constant complaining and always disgruntled. Not everyone but there’s a few that are just miserable even if I agree with them on some things.

13 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:55:00pm

re: #9 Kragar

Rofl.

14 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:56:24pm

re: #9 Kragar

Right-wing biblical illiterates would be shocked by Jesus’ teachings …if they ever picked up a Bible

Shit, I bet most atheists know more about the Bible than the people who claim it guides their lives.

15 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:56:54pm

The Book of Sega Genesis.

16 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:56:57pm

re: #9 Kragar

Those who are the most knowledgeable of the bible in my experience have all been atheists. That’s the way most of them got that way.

17 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:58:12pm

I’ve been told by a major booze retailer that alcohol sales actually go down in Lubbock during the Christmas/New Year holiday. This is apparently because hard drinking Texas Tech students (16% of population and a very high percentage of the drunkards) return to their home towns over the break.

18 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:59:18pm

It’s usually telling that those who claim to be people of The Book never seem to have read past Leviticus. Hell, most of them don’t even seem to know that there was more to Leviticus than “Gays are bad.”

19 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:59:36pm
Biblical illiteracy is what has allowed the Republican Party to get away with shaping Jesus into their image. That’s why politicians on the right can get away with saying the Lord commands that our healthcare, prisons, schools, retirement, transport, and all the rest should be run by corporations for profit. Ironically, the Republican Jesus was actually a devout atheist—Ayn Rand—who called the Christian religion “monstrous.” Rand advocated selfishness over charity, and she divided the world into makers versus takers. She also stated that followers of her philosophy had to chose between Jesus and her teachings. When the Christian Right believes it’s channeling Jesus when they say it’s immoral for government to tax billionaires to help pay for healthcare, education and the poor, they’re actually channeling Ayn Rand. When Bill O’Reilly claims the poor are immoral and lazy, that’s not Jesus, it’s Ayn Rand.
20 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 3:59:46pm
21 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:02:14pm

re: #9 Kragar

Right-wing biblical illiterates would be shocked by Jesus’ teachings …if they ever picked up a Bible

I thought this was pretty amazing, too.

“More than 95 percent of U.S. households own at least one copy of the Bible. So how much do Americans know of the book that one-third of the country believes to be literally true? “

I suppose I’m in that 5% minority…

22 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:02:29pm

The Palo Pinto County sheriff says his crew will be out in force Tuesday night, partly to keep local drunks off the streets, but mostly to catch any Metroplex drunkards who spill out of their lair and go careening through the countryside in their SUVs and other pig iron. Even so I will be hiding in my fortress which is thankfully more than half a mile from the nearest public road.

23 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:03:19pm

re: #20 Gus

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Assad and Assange: A match made in Hell.

24 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:04:21pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

The Palo Pinto County sheriff says his crew will be out in force Tuesday night, partly to keep local drunks off the streets, but mostly to catch any Metroplex drunkards who spill out of their lair and go careening through the countryside in their SUVs and other pig iron. Even so I will be hiding in my fortress which is thankfully more than half a mile from the nearest public road.

Unless you have at least 2 guns in there its not a Texas fortress.

25 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:05:06pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I thought this was pretty amazing, too.

“More than 95 percent of U.S. households own at least one copy of the Bible. So how much do Americans know of the book that one-third of the country believes to be literally true? “

I suppose I’m in that 5% minority…

We own copies, but they have the feel of hand-me-downs than things that my folks went out and purposefully bought. Certainly they’ve got enough dust caked on them to indicate nobody’s looking to get right with God. It probably has a lot to do with none of the people in our house having more than a passing interest in religion besides intellectual discussion.

26 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:06:12pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Assad and Assange: A match made in Hell.

Assad and Assange. Two asses made for hell. :D

27 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:08:54pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

We own copies, but they have the feel of hand-me-downs than things that my folks went out and purposefully bought. Certainly they’ve got enough dust caked on them to indicate nobody’s looking to get right with God. It probably has a lot to do with none of the people in our house having more than a passing interest in religion besides intellectual discussion.

Yeah, I think a lot of those get handed down. Around these parts, if you go into a dr’s or dentist’s office, you’re likely to find a bible or two laying around, along with biblical material for the kiddies.

28 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:09:18pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

At Manhattan Beach, a woman unknowingly took a photo of her son, his friend — and a shark.

Well, that’s what they want you to think.

But they can’t fool us, we know what that is - a SUBMARINE DRONE!!

29 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:09:18pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I thought this was pretty amazing, too.

“More than 95 percent of U.S. households own at least one copy of the Bible. So how much do Americans know of the book that one-third of the country believes to be literally true? “

I suppose I’m in that 5% minority…

I have a copy that I got when I was 10.

30 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:10:07pm

re: #27 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I think a lot of those get handed down. Around these parts, if you go into a dr’s or dentist’s office, you’re likely to find a bible or two laying around, along with biblical material for the kiddies.

My father-in-law just got me a very handsome new King James edition for Christmas. It was a wonderful gift and I’m very thankful for it. Of course, I’m one of those radicals that actually doesn’t think that Jesus wants us to legislate Christianity.

31 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:10:42pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I thought this was pretty amazing, too.

“More than 95 percent of U.S. households own at least one copy of the Bible. So how much do Americans know of the book that one-third of the country believes to be literally true? “

I suppose I’m in that 5% minority…

I think might we have a Japanese copy my wife got from a friend, but we don’t have one I’ve ever gone out to get.

The only time I ever really read it was in Boot Camp because there was nothing else around to read except training material. Got bored with it then too.

32 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:11:42pm

re: #31 Kragar

I think might we have a Japanese copy my wife got from a friend, but we don’t have one I’ve ever gone out to get.

The only time I ever really read it was in Boot Camp because there was nothing else around to read except training material. Got bored with it then too.

But!
All the begating!

33 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:12:08pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Unless you have at least 2 guns in there its not a Texas fortress.

I have more than 2 guns (7 in fact). Unlike true nuts I do not have millions of rounds of ammunition, but there is more than enough to discourage invading wingnuts and tea party drunks.

34 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:12:32pm

I was originally given a different copy, but it had art in it with naked bodies so I asked for a copy without the art.

35 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:12:40pm

Both the Mrs. Fish’s family and mine have inherited “family Bibles” with inscribed genealogies and other such things in them. The Mrs. Fish’s family copy is in Swedish.

36 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:12:57pm

re: #32 Varek Raith

But!
All the begating!

I read Revelations for a sci-fi fix.

37 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:13:58pm

Meanwhile, out here the in pale Golden State:

California drought deepens as another year’s rains stay away

The driest year on record is turning the golden hills of California to dust, drying up wells, pastures and cash reserves in a season that is traditionally lush and generous.

“It’s about the worst I’ve ever seen,” said Gilroy’s Jim Warren, 72, as a hungry herd of Angus cattle jostled toward his truck, piled high with $6,000 worth of imported alfalfa hay. “But you can’t starve a cow into profit.”

[…]

LA too I think has had it’s driest calendar year on record, in 2013.

38 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:14:01pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

I have more than 2 guns (7 in fact). Unlike true nuts I do not have millions of rounds of ammunition, but there is more than enough to discourage invading wingnuts and tea party drunks.

Then you have a true Texas fortress.

39 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:14:52pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

I have more than 2 guns (7 in fact). Unlike true nuts I do not have millions of rounds of ammunition, but there is more than enough to discourage invading wingnuts and tea party drunks.

I have one rifle. A .22 with a broken trigger. No ammo.

I have 4 compound bows with a few dozen arrows though.

40 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:17:32pm

Haven’t read a physical bible since wayyy before the internet. Last I remember we were sitting around drunk and playing background acoustical music.

God mad= Palm muted power chords.
God happy= Airy fingerpicking.

41 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:17:51pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

Shit, I bet most atheists know more about the Bible than the people who claim it guides their lives.

That has actually been tested, in at least two different studies that I am aware of, the atheists came out ahead of the self-professed “Christians” on biblical knowledge both times.

42 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:17:52pm

re: #35 thedopefishlives

Both the Mrs. Fish’s family and mine have inherited “family Bibles” with inscribed genealogies and other such things in them. The Mrs. Fish’s family copy is in Swedish.

No one has ever passed one on to me—I think they knew better, even though my mother’s family was fairly religious in the southern baptist sense—that is, scared that they were going to hell if they didn’t go to church once in a while or at least read the bible. My dad was basically a non-believer who could “get religion” when it was convenient or an opportunity for him but he wasn’t serious. My mother died when I was 7.

43 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:18:01pm

re: #39 b_sharp

I have one rifle. A .22 with a broken trigger. No ammo.

I have 4 compound bows with a few dozen arrows though.

I’ve got a knife. No Ninja mask however.

44 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:18:24pm

re: #39 b_sharp

I have one rifle. A .22 with a broken trigger. No ammo.

I have 4 compound bows with a few dozen arrows though.

I have 2 dogs and a cell phone. And a black belt in Chayon Ryu if those aren’t enough. ;)

45 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:18:44pm

This is the model of rifle I have.

46 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:19:06pm

re: #44 allegro

I have 2 dogs and a cell phone. And a black belt in Chayon Ryu if those aren’t enough. ;)

Hadoken!

47 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:19:12pm

re: #42 Justanotherhuman

My father is an elder at his church back in fish country. My father-in-law used to be a pastor. I think that speaks for itself.

48 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:19:34pm

re: #45 b_sharp

Nice pencil. The eraser looks mint.

49 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:20:13pm

re: #44 allegro

I have 2 dogs and a cell phone. And a black belt in Chayon Ryu if those aren’t enough. ;)

I have 3 cell phones, a white belt in karate and a green belt in hapkido as well as several pointy sticks.

50 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:20:41pm

re: #37 freetoken

Meanwhile, out here the in pale Golden State:

California drought deepens as another year’s rains stay away

LA too I think has had it’s driest calendar year on record, in 2013.

Divine retribution for coddling gays!!1

51 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:20:44pm
52 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:21:02pm

re: #15 Varek Raith

The Book of Sega Genesis.

In the beginning was the Emerald Zone,
And Sonic looked at it, and it was good.

Suddenly, from the garden an Altered Beast appeared and questioned Tails about the Golden ring on the tree…

And Sonic said: Go forth Shinobi and slaughter all who oppose me, especially those losers at Nintendo!

53 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:21:09pm

re: #51 Gus

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Oy.

54 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:21:44pm

re: #53 Varek Raith

Oy.

BENGHAZI/0

55 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:22:28pm

re: #54 Gus

BENGHAZI/0

Talk about atomizing the atoms of that horse.

56 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:23:41pm

re: #55 Varek Raith

Talk about atomizing the atoms of that horse.

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, and, Benghazi.

57 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:23:59pm

re: #28 freetoken

Well, that’s what they want you to think.

But they can’t fool us, we know what that is - a SUBMARINE DRONE!!

FTFY

58 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:24:17pm

re: #19 Kragar

I’ve taken to calling them the “Church of Galt,” because that’s all they really are. People who put their Bible right beside their dog-earred copy of Atlas Shrugged and see nothing hypocritical about it. Who think that a woman who spent most of her life railing against government and charity but who went on the dole as soon as she developed lung cancer from a years of chain smoking (no doubt believing that cigarette smoking doesn’t lead to cancer).

59 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:24:25pm

re: #54 Gus

BENGHAZI/0

Is that Infinite Benghazi?

60 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:24:29pm
61 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:24:38pm

re: #56 Gus

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, and, Benghazi.

Benghazi! DRINK!

62 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:25:09pm

re: #56 Gus

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, and, Benghazi.

I had Benghazi once, but then I took a pill and I feel much better now.

63 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:25:27pm

re: #47 thedopefishlives

My father is an elder at his church back in fish country. My father-in-law used to be a pastor. I think that speaks for itself.

Yes, I think some of the older bibles can be quite interesting when they have family histories involved. My grandmother’s generation’s births were recorded in bibles. All her siblings were born at home, and even a couple of her own children were delivered at home by a friend of hers who was a midwife (back then, they were self-trained), but her own children’s births were recorded at the county office. Her own bible had births and deaths recorded in them; I remember it very well, a black flexible cover with very thin tissue-like paper which she read every day. She didn’t read much of anything else, though, because she had a very limited education, so how much she actually absorbed, I have no idea.

64 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:25:47pm

GO PACK GO!

That is all.

65 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:26:46pm

BENGHAZI
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IZAHGNEB

66 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:27:46pm

re: #63 Justanotherhuman

My grandmother has a beautiful old family bible in which she keeps all the birth/death announcements for us. It’s already been promised to me after she passes. What an awesome piece of family history.

67 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:28:14pm

re: #64 Lidane

GO PACK GO!

That is all.

Speaking of religions…

//

68 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:29:33pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Speaking of religions…

//

I do live in Texas. Around here, football IS religion.

Heh.

69 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:29:34pm

Before:

Image: 1527125_10152130590823024_431581369_n.jpg

After:

Image: 1503381_10152130590888024_418529285_n.jpg

Still need to put drawers across the bottom and add four more cabinets across the top, but a pretty good day of doing battle with Ikea…and I signed up as an Ikea family member when I bought it, so I saved about $100.

70 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:29:49pm

re: #64 Lidane

GO PACK GO!

That is all.

I can only assume this is a football reference.

Youtube Video

71 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:30:13pm

re: #63 Justanotherhuman

My dad’s family Bible was, until I dove into Ancestry.com, the only extant record of his family’s history. We had no idea who we were or where we came from - and even the family Bible only went back to his grandfather. Still, it was - and is - a priceless family heirloom.

72 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:30:37pm

re: #64 Lidane

GO PACK GO!

That is all.

GO TEXANS GO!

Really, go. At least I got to see NFL history made this season as in the worst record in history. Took some real doing considering the talent on the team.

73 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:31:09pm

Because Canada is so, uncool, eh?

Ted Cruz ‘taking steps’ to renounce Canadian citizenship

Senator Ted Cruz has said that he is taking steps to renounce his mysterious Canadian citizenship – in a move he insists does not in any way indicate a run for the White House in 2016.

74 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:32:01pm

OK, that sticky post on the front page looks a bit different now, should be more obvious what’s up.

75 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:32:42pm

re: #73 freetoken

Because Canada is so, uncool, eh?

Ted Cruz ‘taking steps’ to renounce Canadian citizenship

Ted, it doesn’t work that way.

76 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:33:21pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

OK, that sticky post on the front page looks a bit different now, should be more obvious what’s up.

Thank you, Charles. It was a bit weird to navigate there for a while.

77 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:33:28pm

re: #73 freetoken

Because Canada is so, uncool, eh?

Ted Cruz ‘taking steps’ to renounce Canadian citizenship

So true.

78 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:33:28pm

re: #73 freetoken

Because Canada is so, uncool, eh?

Ted Cruz ‘taking steps’ to renounce Canadian citizenship

Anyone who believes that is in the market for a bridge

79 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:33:34pm

re: #64 Lidane

GO PACK GO!

That is all.

And Green Bay wins 33-28.

80 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:34:25pm

Green borderz - and just in time for the 6th Day of Christmas!

I don’t know if the 6th Day has a special name. I believe the 7th day does.

Holy Feasts - who can keep track of them all?

81 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:34:51pm

Does Ted really believe that just saying “I’m not Canadian!” three times will keep the critics from asserting that he’s a “natural born American”?

82 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:36:44pm

re: #72 allegro

GO TEXANS GO!

Really, go. At least I got to see NFL history made this season as in the worst record in history. Took some real doing considering the talent on the team.

I simply don’t understand how the Texans imploded so spectacularly this year. What the actual fuck? I expected a LOT more from them and they played worse than a high school team.

At least my Packers won the division (Sorry DF!) so today is a good day.

83 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:36:55pm

re: #19 Kragar

I finally got my Nephew to read “Atlas Shrugged” after warning him about how many impressionable lives it had screwed up. I made a point of telling him to watch for how all the main characters were impossibly larger than life.

“Yes I grew up dirt poor and worked as a child miner, but I saved my subsistence level paychecks (while eating only dirt for years apparently) and then I bought that mine while still very young, NO DON’T ASK ME HOW! Then I bought a steel mill, then many more steel mills, NO DON’T ASK ME HOW! Then I invented a metal ten times stronger and lighter than steel even though I never went to school, and have no knowledge of chemistry or metallurgy, NO DON’T ASK ME HOW!” - Hank Rearden

84 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:37:15pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

It works sort of like clicking one’s ruby red slippers three times.

85 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:37:38pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

Does Ted really believe that just saying “I’m not Canadian!” three times will keep the critics from asserting that he’s a “natural born American”?

Doesn’t it have to be diluted 100s of times and then shaken?

86 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:40:26pm

I’m a fuckin’ wreck now. Don’t even have enough energy left to go surf.

87 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:41:06pm

re: #86 darthstar

I’m a fuckin’ wreck now. Don’t even have enough energy left to go surf.

Better watch Sharknado then.

88 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:43:20pm

HURR HURR
Top Israeli Magazine Names Edward Snowden “Person of the Year”
I MIGHT VOMIT.
972Mag is NOT a “Top Israeli Magazine” it’s just a bunch of Dudebros who too extreme even for Haaretz. NOTE that they are the ones calling themselves a “Top Magazine.” It’s like Glenn Greenwald calling himself “The World’s Greatest Journalist.”

89 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:43:41pm

re: #85 b_sharp

Doesn’t it have to be diluted 100s of times and then shaken?

Flying monkeys. Doesn’t work without flying monkeys.

90 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:43:46pm

re: #87 b_sharp

Better watch Sharknado then.

I’m always good for a Sharknado, but I think maybe bourbon and football would be a better choice. My wife’s making me dinner as the TV console was her Xmas wish. Butterflied leg of lamb on the grill…hang on…that’s my job. Oh well, she’ll make the rest.

91 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:46:00pm

92 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:46:03pm

re: #88 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Top Israeli Magazine Names Edward Snowden “Person of the Year”
I MIGHT VOMIT.
972Mag is NOT a “Top Israeli Magazine” it’s just a bunch of Dudebros who too extreme even for Haaretz. NOTE that they are the ones calling themselves a “Top Magazine.” It’s like Glenn Greenwald calling himself “The World’s Greatest Journalist.”

There is a Chinese buffet restaurant near where I live. Pretty good food, nice place, but nothing special. They have a huge sign on the interstate near the exit with “Voted one of the top 50 Chinese Buffets” in America. No mention who, what, or where that was voted. Same thing..

RBS

93 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:46:07pm
12 percent of adults think Joan of Arc was Noah’s wife

Noah of Arc. Makes sense.

94 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:46:32pm

re: #88 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Top Israeli Magazine Names Edward Snowden “Person of the Year”
I MIGHT VOMIT.
972Mag is NOT a “Top Israeli Magazine” it’s just a bunch of Dudebros who too extreme even for Haaretz. NOTE that they are the ones calling themselves a “Top Magazine.” It’s like Glenn Greenwald calling himself “The World’s Greatest Journalist.”

Unfortunately, alternet also has a good number of dudebros. Hence the following:

One of Israel’s best online publications - +972 Magazine - has for the first time chosen someone unconnected to Israeli/Palestinian issues as its ” Person of the Year.”

That person is Edward Snowden.

The unusual move by this progressive, politically searing outlet in Israel is testament to just how strongly Snowden’s leaks have reverberated across political spectra. And as +972 Magazine revealed, it is also testament to just how critical Snowden’s leaks are when considering the very nature of the Internet itself, and what it may become.

DERP

95 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:46:32pm

re: #90 darthstar

I’m always good for a Sharknado, but I think maybe bourbon and football would be a better choice. My wife’s making me dinner as the TV console was her Xmas wish. Butterflied leg of lamb on the grill…hang on…that’s my job. Oh well, she’ll make the rest.

LAMB!!!! On the Grill…. I’m on my way.


RBS

96 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:47:07pm

We are in such deep shit.

What did the world search for in 2013?

google.com

97 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:47:11pm

re: #88 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Top Israeli Magazine Names Edward Snowden “Person of the Year”
I MIGHT VOMIT.
972Mag is NOT a “Top Israeli Magazine” it’s just a bunch of Dudebros who too extreme even for Haaretz. NOTE that they are the ones calling themselves a “Top Magazine.” It’s like Glenn Greenwald calling himself “The World’s Greatest Journalist.”

Well…

98 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:47:33pm

Speaking of family heirlooms, my late grandmother’s Christmas cactus bloomed today. It is very beautiful.

99 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:47:48pm

re: #95 RealityBasedSteve

LAMB!!!! On the Grill…. I’m on my way.

RBS

A friend of mine posted a pic of her children on facebook holding newborn lambs…at Xmas…it was so sweet. My comment: “Braise the lord.”

100 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:48:06pm

Oh, we have a dudebro font! When did that happen?

101 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:48:58pm

102 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:49:04pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Yet many of them get upset when you call them tea-baggers, what is this world coming to…

103 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:49:06pm

re: #93 jaunte

Noah of Arc. Makes sense.

Arc, Ark, spellcheck doesn’t care.

104 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:49:13pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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Wow….

105 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:50:39pm

re: #88 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Top Israeli Magazine Names Edward Snowden “Person of the Year”

SAAB shareholders agree!

106 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:50:52pm

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Arc, Ark, spellcheck doesn’t care.

I met a Monica with a k yesterday…Monika. Nice gal. Her wife was pretty cool too.

107 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:51:22pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Unfortunately, alternet also has a good number of dudebros. hence the following:

One of Israel’s best online publications - +972 Magazine - has for the first time chosen someone unconnected to Israeli/Palestinian issues as its ” Person of the Year.”

That person is Edward Snowden.

The unusual move by this progressive, politically searing outlet in Israel is testament to just how strongly Snowden’s leaks have reverberated across political spectra. And as +972 Magazine revealed, it is also testament to just how critical Snowden’s leaks are when considering the very nature of the Internet itself, and what it may become.

DERP

See #96.

108 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:51:44pm

Why do wingnuts think it is OK for a girl to dress like a slut as long as she can haz a gun?

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:52:52pm

But if a girl wearing a hijab or a niqab had a gun ZOMG IT TEH SHARIA!!!!!!!

110 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:52:52pm

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

Why do wingnuts think it is OK for a girl to dress like a slut as long as she can haz a gun?

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Nothing like living in the real world.

111 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:53:08pm

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

Funny thing is, this would spark cries of SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT! if one of these girls was sexually assaulted…

112 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:53:41pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

And Green Bay wins 33-28.

They’ll one and out in the playoffs. Weakest team that made it.

113 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:53:59pm

re: #111 thedopefishlives

Funny thing is, this would spark cries of SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT! if one of these girls was sexually assaulted…

Only if she was a librul.

114 thedopefishlives  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:54:39pm

re: #113 b_sharp

Only if she was a librul.

Well, if she’s dressing like a slut and not carrying a gun, clearly she’s a librul. DUH.

115 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:55:32pm

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

Man Grabs Gun Instead Of Wallet, Shoots Self In Butt At Home Depot

Police say the 32-year-old Green Oak Township man, who was not named, was apparently reaching into his pocket for his wallet when he inadvertently grabbed his pistol and a shot fired, striking him in the buttocks.
….
Police say the man had a license to carry the concealed weapon and no charges will be filed.

116 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:56:46pm

re: #115 jaunte

Man Grabs Gun Instead Of Wallet, Shoots Self In Butt At Home Depot

Good for a giggle. Even had the wife laughing.

117 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:57:11pm

re: #112 William Barnett-Lewis

They’ll one and out in the playoffs. Weakest team that made it.

They get to play their first game at home, but they’ll be playing the Saints. Given how good New Orleans is, they’re the favorite, and if the Bears had won the Crescent City’s team would still be the favorite.

118 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:57:18pm

re: #115 jaunte

Man Grabs Gun Instead Of Wallet, Shoots Self In Butt At Home Depot

No arrest for reckless endangerment of others? I’m sick of this kind of shit.

119 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:57:26pm

re: #116 b_sharp

Reminds me to keep my distance in the checkout line.

120 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:57:40pm

re: #115 jaunte

Man Grabs Gun Instead Of Wallet, Shoots Self In Butt At Home Depot

An insurance claim, however, will be.

121 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:58:02pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

No arrest for reckless endangerment of others? I’m sick of this kind of shit.

He could have shot his mouth off…

122 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:58:32pm

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

You should look at some of the gun porn, yes, really, that is a legitimate thing. Naked girls with guns, naked girls with guns probing or brushing certain parts of their bodies with said guns.

It is all pretty disturbing, not to mention that pretty much any YouTube video with a girl in daisy duke cut-offs, a halter top, and firing a light machine gun is guaranteed to have at least 3 million views…

It is definitely a “Bubba” type guy thing that is best not looked into too closely.

123 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:58:41pm

re: #72 allegro

GO TEXANS GO!

Really, go. At least I got to see NFL history made this season as in the worst record in history. Took some real doing considering the talent on the team.

I was at the game; after raining for the past day or so, it cleared up this morning and was almost cloudless and cool all game long.

After the first half, I was happy, for the most part, but my Titans couldn’t even break .500 this year.

With Bud Adams now deceased, I think Mike Munchak and his staff are dead coaches walking at this point, even after closing out this season with a win over the team that took the Oilers’ place and a division rival.

124 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 4:59:59pm

I’m really fucking liking having my 55” tv wall-mounted and having all the cables hidden. Thank you Ikea. And thank you to my wife for picking such an awesome Xmas wish.

125 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:00:42pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

No arrest for reckless endangerment of others? I’m sick of this kind of shit.

This is exactly the thing I’m afraid of. Out to eat with the wife then some douchebag’s gun falls out and kills someone.

126 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:00:53pm
127 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:01:31pm

re: #122 ausador

You should look at some of the gun porn, yes, really, that is a legitimate thing. Naked girls with guns, naked girls with guns probing or brushing certain parts of their bodies with said guns.

It is all pretty disturbing, not to mention that pretty much any YouTube video with a girl in daisy duke cut-offs, a halter top, and firing a light machine gun is guaranteed to have at least 3 million views…

It is definitely a “Bubba” type guy thing that is best not looked into too closely.

Am I right that there is porn with girls sticking gun barrels up their…lady bits?

128 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:01:51pm

re: #123 AlexRogan

I was at the game.

After the first half, I was happy, for the most part, but my Titans couldn’t even break .500 this year.

With Bud Adams now deceased, I think Mike Munchak and his staff are still dead coaches walking at this point, even after closing out this season with a win.

At least they kept their jobs until the end of the season unlike Kubiak.

129 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:02:49pm

re: #100 thedopefishlives

Oh, we have a dudebro font! When did that happen?

we do?

130 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:02:57pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Eugh, I hope not.

131 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:03:07pm

Has anyone dissected Eli Lake’s article yet?
Yes, There IS Evidence Linking al Qaeda to Benghazi
It seems to check out to me.

132 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:03:09pm

re: #122 ausador

There’s a video on youtube of a girl in a bikini shooting a machine gun that has over 10 million views.

133 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:03:27pm

re: #115 jaunte

Man Grabs Gun Instead Of Wallet, Shoots Self In Butt At Home Depot

That’s why I never put my gun between my wallet and my butt-plug.

134 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:03:56pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Am I right that there is porn with girls sticking gun barrels up their…lady bits?

Absolutely, if in doubt you can always refer to rule #34 about porn on the internet.

“If it exists, there is porn of it.”

also sometimes phrased as…

“If you can imagine it existing, there is porn of it.”

135 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:04:00pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Am I right that there is porn with girls sticking gun barrels up their…lady bits?

I am given to understand that such a thing exists, though the idea appalls me, since it both treats the gun as a penis substitute and yet does not treat it with the proper care. The idea makes me ill.

136 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:04:57pm

re: #134 ausador

Absolutely, if in doubt you can always refer to rule #34.

At one time I had hoped several exceptions to that rule existed…however now I believe that was merely wishful thinking.

137 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:05:39pm

re: #128 allegro

At least they kept their jobs until the end of the season unlike Kubiak.

True, though I thought how he was let go was fucked up.

The man had a fucking mini-stroke during a game, comes back from that, and the team cans him less than a month later.

Bob McNair, his team president, and his GM could have fucking waited until after today for that shit.

138 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:05:56pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Has anyone dissected Eli Lake’s article yet?
Yes, There IS Evidence Linking al Qaeda to Benghazi
It seems to check out to me.

Evidence of loose affiliations between some of the local militia leaders and Al Qaeda, maybe. Evidence that Al Qaeda planned and executed this attack? Not at all.

139 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:06:03pm

Women are the source for humankind and the gun is a symbol of death.

140 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:07:03pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Has anyone dissected Eli Lake’s article yet?
Yes, There IS Evidence Linking al Qaeda to Benghazi
It seems to check out to me.

The article effectively takes the new position that critics of the administration have dropped back to in absence of evidence of direct Al-Q involvement or planning, namely that affiliated militias engaged in the attack with Al-Q’s blessing.

141 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:07:57pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

The article effectively takes the new position that critics of the administration have dropped back to in absence of evidence of direct Al-Q involvement or planning, namely that affiliated militias engaged in the attack with Al-Q’s blessing.

Exactly. It’s the fallback.

142 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:08:14pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

The Palo Pinto County sheriff says his crew will be out in force Tuesday night, partly to keep local drunks off the streets, but mostly to catch any Metroplex drunkards who spill out of their lair and go careening through the countryside in their SUVs and other pig iron. Even so I will be hiding in my fortress which is thankfully more than half a mile from the nearest public road.

And those loons will be armed to the teeth!

143 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:09:00pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

I am given to understand that such a thing exists, though the idea appalls me, since it both treats the gun as a penis substitute and yet does not treat it with the proper care. The idea makes me ill.

And there’s nothing like a shiny hard wet cock in high def, right?

“I am given to understand” means one of two things to most people who read it: a) you watch gun porn and like it or b) you watch gun porn and feel guilty about it.

144 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:09:18pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

I am given to understand that such a thing exists, though the idea appalls me, since it both treats the gun as a penis substitute and yet does not treat it with the proper care. The idea makes me ill.

For a lot of the gun nuts, their guns ARE penis substitutes. Ergo, the existence of gun porn.

145 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:09:19pm

re: #139 Amory Blaine

Women are the source for humankind and the gun is a symbol of death.

“The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life to poison the Earth with a plague of men, as once it was, but the gun shoots death, and purifies the Earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth … and kill!”

/Zardoz

146 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:09:25pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s a video on youtube of a girl in a bikini shooting a machine gun that has over 10 million views.

Typical, all like videos have high view counts.

Something about a very scantily clad woman shooting a gun seems to attract a certain fairly large audience.

147 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:09:29pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Evidence of loose affiliations between some of the local militia leaders and Al Qaeda, maybe. Evidence that Al Qaeda planned and executed this attack? Not at all.

Yeah, that seems to be about it. I think Eli Lake may be a little off about Ansar al Sharia. Last I checked they have no operational connection to other groups using that name. Some people may dispute that but I still think it’s just a common name, nothing more.

148 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:10:08pm

re: #143 darthstar

And there’s nothing like a shiny hard wet cock in high def, right?

“I am given to understand” means one of two things to most people who read it: a) you watch gun porn and like it or b) you watch gun porn and feel guilty about it.

In this case it means: “I’ve seen it, I hated seeing it, and now I avoid it.”

149 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:10:38pm

re: #143 darthstar

150 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:10:45pm

re: #146 ausador

So does bathtub girl apparently

151 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:13pm
152 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:31pm

re: #123 AlexRogan

I was at the game; after raining for the past day or so, it cleared up this morning and was almost cloudless and cool all game long.

After the first half, I was happy, for the most part, but my Titans couldn’t even break .500 this year.

With Bud Adams now deceased, I think Mike Munchak and his staff are dead coaches walking at this point, even after closing out this season with a win over the team that took the Oilers’ place and a division rival.

I’m with you on Munchak. We can only have just so many rebuilding years in a row {grin}. I suspect that we’ll see some shakeups coming in the near future.

RBS

153 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:44pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

They get to play their first game at home, but they’ll be playing the Saints Niners.

FTFY

The Saints will play whoever wins between the Eagles and Cowboys, then the winner of that game plays Seattle. The Packers will play San Fran and the winner of that game plays Carolina.

154 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:44pm

By the way, when you’re looking at a thread in Spy Mode now, the same popup comment viewer we have in the regular comments is now implemented there. You just click on the “re: xxx” link in the comment and that comment opens in a popup dialog. You can go back through a conversation this way, even if that comment has already scrolled off the bottom in the Spy. Kinda cool.

155 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:49pm

re: #115 jaunte

Man Grabs Gun Instead Of Wallet, Shoots Self In Butt At Home Depot

The comments are hilarious. Gun defenders are using terms like “Condition zero” and “Rack your action” to defend asshole having a round in the chamber and shooting himself in the ass.

156 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:55pm

re: #151 Gus

No trace of drool!

157 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:11:57pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

The article effectively takes the new position that critics of the administration have dropped back to in absence of evidence of direct Al-Q involvement or planning, namely that affiliated militias engaged in the attack with Al-Q’s blessing.

Republicans may move the goalposts or whatever but I’m not interested much in the partisan pissing contest. Eli Lake seems to have been consistent in his assessment, I don’t think he’s changing his story.

158 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:12:05pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Has anyone dissected Eli Lake’s article yet?
Yes, There IS Evidence Linking al Qaeda to Benghazi
It seems to check out to me.

Doesn’t sound like they have evidence the attack was planned and carried out by AQ, just that the attack had members in common with AQ.

Is it enough to identify members of AQ participating in the attack to claim it an AQ attack or does there have to be AQ planning and implementation involved?

That sounds much like calling the OWS an anarchist movement because there were anarchists at some of the sites.

159 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:12:20pm

re: #156 jaunte

No trace of drool!

Sticky on the inside. //

160 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:12:26pm
161 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:12:48pm

re: #152 RealityBasedSteve

I’m with you on Munchak. We can only have just so many rebuilding years in a row {grin}. I suspect that we’ll see some shakeups coming in the near future.

RBS

Mike Munchak: a great player, a middling head coach.

Sorry, Mike, but head coaching in the NFL ain’t for everyone.

162 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:12:53pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Your link sends me to twitter feeds for … porn.

163 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:14:50pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

In this case it means: “I’ve seen it, I hated seeing it, and now I avoid it.”

Dude…if you rent it you might as well enjoy it. There’s no shame. I watched a bit of porn in my lifetime, and I never saw anyone getting a gun-barrel stuck in their unmentionable. That’s some pretty out there shit you watch…I mean ‘avoid’…but I won’t ask how one avoids gun porn.

164 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:14:56pm

re: #162 freetoken

Your link sends me to twitter feeds for … porn.

Porn? On the Internet?

165 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:15:28pm

Eli Lake’s article doesn’t refute the New York Times piece at all - in fact, he’s making the same point when you get past the link-baiting headline. The connections are all murky and ill-defined.

166 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:15:45pm

re: #164 Targetpractice

Porn? On the Internet?

I can’t believe that.

167 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:15:47pm

re: #164 Targetpractice

Porn? On the Internet?

When did this start?

168 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:16:13pm

re: #145 AlexRogan

“The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life to poison the Earth with a plague of men, as once it was, but the gun shoots death, and purifies the Earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth … and kill!”

/Zardoz

You asked for it…..

RBS

169 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:16:24pm

I’m shocked, SHOCKED to learn that there is porn on the internet.

170 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:16:49pm

“Affiliated” with Al-Qaeda seems to have a hugely variable definition.

171 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:16:50pm

re: #142 prairiefire

And those loons will be armed to the teeth!

I have a nice bottle of Riesling with which I’ll celebrate at home with whoever is here or comes by. For the last several years, I haven’t been able to stay up until midnight, anyway, haha. It hasn’t been an important holiday for many, many years.

On New Years, I’ll cook the traditional black eyed peas and fresh collards we have in the south, though. : ) Try cooking the peas w/plenty of sweet onion and red pepper flakes…healthier than the old-fashioned way. I’ll cook the collards with some red wine vinegar, and make some corn muffins and a few pork chops for the meat eaters.

172 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:16:54pm

I”m not grasping what the big deal is about Benghazi being the result of a collaboration with a group who want to self label as being “Al Qaeda”.

There’s a false premise being pushed here, that somehow the existence of groups who want to use the “AQ” brand (and that is more or less what it has become) somehow translates in President Obama being a resident evul creature or something.

I’m just not getting it.

173 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:17:01pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

When did this start?

I think it was the flying monkeys

174 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:17:37pm

re: #168 RealityBasedSteve

You asked for it…..

[Embedded image]

RBS

I could have happily gone through life without seeing that.

175 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:17:42pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

When did this start?

re: #169 darthstar

I’m shocked, SHOCKED to learn that there is porn on the internet.

Your Vivid DVDs, sir…

176 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:18:09pm

HURR HURR

177 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:18:35pm

re: #169 darthstar

I’m shocked, SHOCKED to learn that there is porn on the internet.

Youtube Video

178 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:18:55pm

re: #163 darthstar

Dude…if you rent it you might as well enjoy it. There’s no shame. I watched a bit of porn in my lifetime, and I never saw anyone getting a gun-barrel stuck in their unmentionable. That’s some pretty out there shit you watch…I mean ‘avoid’…but I won’t ask how one avoids gun porn.

I’m not going to debate this with you, but suffice it to say that I clicked on a gallery the photos in question were part of and did not know in advance they were there. It’s not always clear what’s in a photo gallery from its external description, y’know?

179 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:19:34pm

re: #176 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR

[Embedded content]

Uh huh. Unnamed sources from Fox News. That’s credible.

180 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:20:19pm

re: #177 Varek Raith

[Embedded content]

Giggity.

181 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:20:20pm

re: #175 AlexRogan

Your Vivid DVDs, sir…

I had a friend who worked for an adult film company - he said they had so much money coming through the door it made his head spin…and the “talent” (that’s what they call the actors) are just dumb guys who don’t mind fucking each other for $9 an hour. The owner of the company was pulling $20k a week.

182 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:20:27pm

re: #150 allegro

So does bathtub girl apparently

If you don’t know what that is yet then just read a description of it from another site, don’t go there. You will be very sorry if you do, what has been seen can never be unseen.

183 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:20:38pm

re: #176 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR

[Embedded content]

The article names none of its sources, which in my mind means its full of crap.

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:20:41pm

HURR HURR

185 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:20:58pm

re: #172 freetoken

I”m not grasping what the big deal is about Benghazi being the result of a collaboration with a group who want to self label as being “Al Qaeda”.

There’s a false premise being pushed here, that somehow the existence of groups who want to use the “AQ” brand (and that is more or less what it has become) somehow translates in President Obama being a resident evul creature or something.

I’m just not getting it.

The flogging of the deceased equine began over the GOP (read: Romney) wanting to get in a typical electoral pissing contest over which party better “protected” America from foreign threats by asserting that the Obama admin had not defeated Al-Q and the “terrorist attack” in Benghazi was in reality a planned retaliatory attack on the anniversary of Sept 11th and in the name of OBL. The Romney campaign began, and the GOP quickly took up, the talking point that the White House had “lied” about the riots being due to outrage sparked over a video tape to hide that reality from the public during an election year.

186 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:21:04pm

re: #171 Justanotherhuman

I love German white wines. Riesling Kabinett my fave, trocken of course, followed by a good Gewurztraminer.

187 darthstar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:21:15pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’m not going to debate this with you, but suffice it to say that I clicked on gallery the photos in question were part of and did not know in advance they were there. It’s not always clear what’s in a photo gallery from its external description, y’know?

Suffice it to say.

188 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:21:40pm

re: #176 Pie-onist Overlord

Has anyone actually made the argument that they’re refuting, that the attack was completely unplanned and spontaneous?

189 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:22:29pm

re: #182 ausador

If you don’t know what that is yet then just read a description of it from another site, don’t go there. You will be very sorry if you do, what has been seen can never be unseen.

[Embedded image]

Email that photo to Harmony Gold!

/Battletech gaming reference

190 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:23:07pm

re: #181 darthstar

I had a friend who worked for an adult film company - he said they had so much money coming through the door it made his head spin…and the “talent” (that’s what they call the actors) are just dumb guys who don’t mind fucking each other for $9 an hour. The owner of the company was pulling $20k a week.

Also, they don’t always get treated well by the bosses. One of many reasons I no longer watch porn.

However, I must say with free porn so readily available, it still surprises me that people are willing to pay so much for it.

191 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:24:34pm

They don’t even look like AQ if you look at the photos from Benghazi that night. They look like run of the mill younger men from the area.

192 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:24:40pm

re: #176 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR

[Embedded content]

“Unnamed sources” who could be characters from a Tom Clancy novel. Oy.

193 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:26:05pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

“Unnamed sources” who could be characters from a Tom Clancy novel. Oy.

Except that a Tom Clancy novel would likely correspond closer to reality than an anonymously sourced FNC report.

194 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:26:09pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, they don’t always get treated well by the bosses. One of many reasons I no longer watch porn.

It’s a very exploitative industry, and always will be, no matter how they try to “clean it up”.

195 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:26:29pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

“Guys were coming into the compound, moving left, moving right…and using IMT (individual movement techniques). … That’s not a spontaneous attack,” one special operator said.

They were moving LEFT, then RIGHT!! These were pros, man.

196 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:26:50pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

The assertion, spoken or unspoken, that the US can eliminate “AQ” from the face of the planet, is itself horribly naive, or dishonest, or both.

I do not expect, assume, or otherwise believe that any US President can so finely sculpt the planet’s human society in such detail.

There’s such a disconnect between reality and the American political echo chamber that it’s one of the few things about my life in America that I find a bit scary. Between marketing scams for weight loss and penis enlargement, this idea that the US President can infinitely steer the coarse of every living person on the planet fits right in.

It’s the Independence Day view of reality, which is to say, not reality at all.

197 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:29:09pm

re: #195 jaunte

They were moving LEFT, then RIGHT!! These were pros, man.

Youtube Video

198 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:29:40pm

re: #191 Gus

They don’t even look like AQ if you look at the photos from Benghazi that night. They look like run of the mill younger men from the area.

It was basically a mob, but there were militia members with serious weaponry among them too.

199 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:30:42pm

re: #195 jaunte

They were moving LEFT, then RIGHT!! These were pros, man.

Some of the attackers were clearly trained in how to fight, but that doesn’t mean they were Al-Qaeda.

200 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:31:21pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

This whole story has been about the huge excluded middle ground.

201 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:31:26pm

re: #176 Pie-onist Overlord

I eagerly await the unskewed polls guy’s input on Benghazi.

Also, Dick Morris. That should be a hoot.

202 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:31:34pm

re: #197 Pie-onist Overlord

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I was thinking more of Belushi in Animal House but I can’t find a clip.

203 Dave In Austin  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:31:39pm

Rethugs for Kwanzaa!!! Oh this is good…..

Be sure to follow the linkage.

Dear Jaunita…

204 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:31:40pm

Yikes! The “world’s fastest shooter,” Jerry Miculek, fires five rounds in one second from a Smith and Wesson .500 magnum revolver:
Youtube Video

Fortunately, Jerry is a showman and target shooter rather than a homicidal maniac, since a maniac could get the same gun about as easily as Jerry can (though Jerry would probably get a bigger discount).

205 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:31:53pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

It was basically a mob, but there were militia members with serious weaponry among them too.

And again. All of this was counter to a typical AQ attack which has never involved “mob violence.” AQ does organized large to medium scale para-military attacks either involving small arms fire, IEDs, or truck bombs. This would be very unusual for AQ.

206 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:32:57pm

re: #205 Gus

And again. All of this was counter to a typical AQ attack which has never involved “mob violence.” AQ does organized large to medium scale para-military attacks either involving small arms fire, IEDs, or truck bombs. This would be very unusual for AQ.

QFT.

207 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:34:13pm

re: #201 Lidane

I eagerly await the unskewed polls guy’s input on Benghazi.

Also, Dick Morris. That should be a hoot.

“Once Mitt Romney’s version of Benghazi has the lead in the polls I don’t think he’s going to give it up.”

208 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:36:42pm

AQ would have also recorded almost every detail and put up snackbar videos up on Liveleak complete with their respective logos and chanting.

209 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:37:20pm

210 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:37:32pm

They would have been gloating, gloating, gloating.

211 kirkspencer  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:38:07pm

re: #137 AlexRogan

True, though I thought how he was let go was fucked up.

The man had a fucking mini-stroke >during a game, comes back from that, and the team cans him less than a month later.

Bob McNair, his team president, and his GM could have fucking waited until after today for that shit.

A possibility to consider (and this is pure guess, not inside knowledge).

The normal requirement after a mini-stroke is rest and physical therapy, not jump right back into the same stress environment two weeks later. So what if it’s “Since you won’t ensure you’re around next year, we will.” It may be to prevent various lawsuits, it might because of honest desire to have him around for dinners and visits next season. It may be something else.

But it’s a possibility.

212 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:38:39pm

213 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:39:12pm

Videos and gloating which is used as a recruiting tool for AQ. And this? Nothing?

214 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:39:18pm
215 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:39:30pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

And I thought MLK was a Republican. Isn’t that the usual RWNJ derp?

216 jaunte  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:39:40pm

It gives you that much more respect for the Founders to know they didn’t carry patriotic lawnchairs around with them.

217 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:39:42pm

re: #169 darthstar

I’m shocked, SHOCKED to learn that there is porn on the internet.

WHEN DID THAT START?

218 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:41:02pm

re: #217 Kragar

WHEN DID THAT START?

RIGHT AFTER THE ROBERTS COURT LEGALIZED TEH GAY MARRIAGE!!

219 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:41:20pm

re: #215 Lidane

And I thought MLK was a Republican. Isn’t that the usual RWNJ derp?

I love how he ran out of space for “THE BOLD TRuth“…

220 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:42:03pm

I’m rooting for the Eagles. This has never happened before. WTF.

Oh right. I loathe Jerry Jones, so I root against him on principle. Never mind.

221 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:43:11pm

Unfortunately, it’s in Arabic.

That’s Al Jazeera…(AJE)

222 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:44:01pm

HURR HURR THIS 185 YEAR OLD NEGRO WAS A REPUBLICAN!!!11!!!

223 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:44:46pm

re: #211 kirkspencer

A possibility to consider (and this is pure guess, not inside knowledge).

The normal requirement after a mini-stroke is rest and physical therapy, not jump right back into the same stress environment two weeks later. So what if it’s “Since you won’t ensure you’re around next year, we will.” It may be to prevent various lawsuits, it might because of honest desire to have him around for dinners and visits next season. It may be something else.

But it’s a possibility.

McNair and his seconds could have put Kubiak on mandatory medical leave if that were the case, instead of firing him outright.

The way that it did happen, however, looks skeezy as shit, even if the team was in the toilet before Kubiak’s mini-stroke.

224 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:56:49pm

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! The “world’s fastest shooter,” Jerry Miculek, fires five rounds in one second from a Smith and Wesson .500 magnum revolver:
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Fortunately, Jerry is a showman and target shooter rather than a homicidal maniac, since a maniac could get the same gun about as easily as Jerry can (though Jerry would probably get a bigger discount).

Jerry and his wife are humble, kind and cool people. We shot Steel Challenge with them and a bunch of scary good shooters. KC Eusebio. Julie Golub, Mike Dalton, and many more. Good times.

225 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:57:10pm

Since I’m doing (another) Amazon Prime trial I decided to view some of the on-demand TV.

They have Duck Dynasty, a show not previously experienced by me.

I made it ten minutes into the first episode.

I deserve a prize for lasting so long.

226 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 5:59:16pm

re: #225 freetoken

Since I’m doing (another) Amazon Prime trial I decided to view some of the on-demand TV.

They have Duck Dynasty, a show not previously experienced by me.

I made it ten minutes into the first episode.

I deserve a prize for lasting so long.

Possibly the most hideous television show ever, without a doubt.

227 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:00:09pm

re: #225 freetoken

Here is an upding for lasting that long. And if I recall correctly they also have Downton Abbey.

228 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:01:15pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Possibly the most hideous television show ever, without a doubt.

Remember when Gene Scott used to broadcast on his flakey cable program?

Gene Scott was more interesting than Duck Dynasty.

229 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:01:57pm

I’ve been watching The Good Wife on Amazon Prime’s iPhone app. Kinda getting hooked on it despite some of the formulaic elements. The characters are complex enough to be interesting.

230 Single-handed sailor  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:03:06pm

re: #228 freetoken

Remember when Gene Scott used to broadcast on his flakey cable program?

Gene Scott was more interesting than Duck Dynasty.

Gene Scott was the greatest TV show of all time… OF ALL TIME!

231 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:05:03pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

I’ve been watching The Good Wife on Amazon Prime’s iPhone app. Kinda getting hooked on it despite some of the formulaic elements. The characters are complex enough to be interesting.

The show’s a bit formulaic, but the cast is solid and it’s interesting. I like it.

My latest binge-watch has been It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Funny stuff.

232 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:05:25pm

re: #224 Political Atheist

Jerry and his wife are humble, kind and cool people. We shot Steel Challenge with them and a bunch of scary good shooters. KC Eusebio. Julie Golub, Mike Dalton, and many more. Good times.

For the record, I have to say that there is no way I could control the recoil on that thing like that even with the porting I suspect. Second, imagine shooting that in the dark. Look like Smaug firing off a blast.

RBS

233 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:05:59pm

My new Page:

The Financial Crisis: Why Have No High-Level Executives Been Prosecuted?

The article I linked to is fairly long, but its well worth the read.

234 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:06:12pm

Went through the entire Falling Skies series on Amazon Prime too — another really promising idea based on a very old science fiction plot that loses the thread about 3/4 of the way through. Worth watching, though, for some imaginative moments.

235 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:07:46pm

Watched Lilyhammer last week, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Rewatched Venture Bros, watching the last season of Fringe now.

236 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:08:18pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Went through the entire Falling Skies series on Amazon Prime too — another really promising idea based on a very old science fiction plot that loses the thread about 3/4 of the way through. Worth watching, though, for some imaginative moments.

It’s not done, though. It’ll be back this coming summer for another 12 episodes.

237 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:09:13pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

I tried that one too, but got really bored with it. There are very few novel ideas in science fiction, so re-imagining old ideas really takes a lot of creativity on the part of the script writers and actors to make a story come alive.

I also tried (courtesy of Amazon Prime) The Event, but found the long flashbacks to be quite counterproductive to an enjoyable viewing experience.

238 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:10:27pm

re: #235 Kragar

Watched Lilyhammer last week, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Rewatched Venture Bros, watching the last season of Fringe now.

Fringe was another science fiction series that was really promising and almost got there, but lost focus somewhere in the last innings.

239 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:12:28pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Fringe was another science fiction series that was really promising and almost got there, but lost focus somewhere in the last innings.

It started out as another X-Files, but then it ran into the same problem that series had, getting more wrapped up in its own mythology than the idea of a “monster of the week” set-up leading to a year-end payoff.

240 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:12:37pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Fringe was another science fiction series that was really promising and almost got there, but lost focus somewhere in the last innings.

Agree. After season 2 I lost interest, somewhere in season 3 I think.

It’s very hard to maintain drama for a long time (and this is where Vince Gilligan did so well in Breaking Bad.)

Eventually all these shows suffer from runners trying to do too many episodes, and the scripts become reruns of previous shows.

241 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:12:38pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Fringe was another science fiction series that was really promising and almost got there, but lost focus somewhere in the last innings.

Yeah, watching it now and saying “Where the hell did this Observer invasion come from?”

242 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:14:51pm

re: #232 RealityBasedSteve

For the record, I have to say that there is no way I could control the recoil on that thing like that even with the porting I suspect. Second, imagine shooting that in the dark. Look like Smaug firing off a blast.

RBS

IIRC he shoots .45 ACP in his N frame. Depending on the load, the recoil can be quite minimal, as with mine in .45 Colt (though I tend to warmer loads since if I have it on I’m concerned about larger critters like black bear). Heavy revolver + light load = reasonably easy to control.

Much (Most?) flash comes from unburned powder which is wasted energy. A load that burns fully in the barrel of the weapon is a much better for velocity and for your night vision. The remaining flash is best dealt with by flash suppressed powders.

The other thing that helps him is that it’s loaded using moon clips - a circular piece of metal clipping (a correct usage of the word, btw) all 6 rounds together so they can be loaded in a single motion.

243 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:15:29pm

re: #241 Kragar

Yeah, watching it now and saying “Where the hell did this Observer invasion come from?”

I lost interest there as well. Didn’t even bother with the last season.

244 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:16:19pm

I think what turned me off about Fringe in the end was when it started becoming less about the scientific oddities and more about the drama between Olivia and Peter. Sorry, I’m not here for the white bread romance or Peter is the interdimensional messiah, I’m here for seeing what horrific way we can disfigure and/or kill people this week.

245 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:18:03pm

re: #242 William Barnett-Lewis

IIRC he shoots .45 ACP in his N frame. Depending on the load, the recoil can be quite minimal, as with mine in .45 Colt (though I tend to warmer loads since if I have it on I’m concerned about larger critters like black bear). Heavy revolver + light load = reasonably easy to control.

Much (Most?) flash comes from unburned powder which is wasted energy. A load that burns fully in the barrel of the weapon is a much better for velocity and for your night vision. The remaining flash is best dealt with by flash suppressed powders.

The other thing that helps him is that it’s loaded using moon clips - a circular piece of metal clipping (a correct usage of the word, btw) all 6 rounds together so they can be loaded in a single motion.

Upding for correct usage of ‘clip’.

246 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:19:11pm

re: #243 allegro

I lost interest there as well. Didn’t even bother with the last season.

2 episodes in and its losing me.

247 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:19:51pm

I’ve been having a lot of fun watching Warehouse 13. It’s one of the most fun and creative series I’ve seen with the often hilarious historical references and plays on fictional characters and objects.

248 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:21:43pm

Television is not a medium which entertains me much anymore. Maybe I’ve just grown too old, but my reaction to new shows is “seen that before”.

Reality TV is no more fresh or different than dramas, just cheaper to make.

As for American TV, maybe a Chopped episode here and there will keep my attention. Some of the BBC productions still entice me.

I wonder if the essential nature of nearly all of American TV - that it is a medium for advertisement - has forced a similarity across product lines, that thus has become so boring and repetitive. Or perhaps the constraint of the medium itself means all we have from now on are derivatives of past inventions?

249 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:22:43pm

Wingnuts keep spamming this over and over and over again. This is just so fucked up.

250 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:25:07pm

re: #249 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts keep spamming this over and over and over again. This is just so fucked up.

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Considering most abortions take place before they’re anywhere near that size…

251 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:25:18pm

re: #249 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts keep spamming this over and over and over again. This is just so fucked up.

[Embedded content]

I notice they never have the silhouette of a man next to woman saying “not your body, not your choice.”

252 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:25:48pm

re: #240 freetoken

Eventually all these shows suffer from runners trying to do too many episodes, and the scripts become reruns of previous shows.

Or they just become blatant fanservice for the diehards and lose the more casual viewer.

Supernatural is a great example of this. IMO the show ended in Season 5. Everything after that has been catering to the slash fic writers and Tumblr fangirls.

253 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:25:57pm

re: #250 Targetpractice

Considering most abortions take place before they’re anywhere near that size…

Or ignoring the fact they think morning after pills are abortions.

254 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:27:12pm

re: #252 Lidane

Or they just become blatant fanservice for the diehards and lose the more casual viewer.

Supernatural is a great example of this. IMO the show ended in Season 5. Everything after that has been catering to the slash fic writers and Tumblr fangirls.

Stargate should have ended around season 5, limped on thru season 8 and its body dragged thru the streets as roadkill thru season 10

255 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:27:17pm

re: #249 Pie-onist Overlord

I love the blatant assumption that once a woman gets pregnant, she loses all agency and ceases to be a person. It really shows how much the “pro-life” people care.

256 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:27:58pm

re: #249 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts keep spamming this over and over and over again. This is just so fucked up.

So Alexis I demand one of your kidneys! Hand it over NOW! What? You think your body belongs to you? But I’ll die without it! You murderer!

257 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:28:10pm

re: #253 Kragar

Or ignoring the fact they think morning after pills are abortions.

Birth control pills too.

You know, because a woman’s uterus is lined with a bunch of tiny fetuses that die every time a woman takes The Pill.

258 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:28:14pm

re: #252 Lidane

Or they just become blatant fanservice for the diehards and lose the more casual viewer.

Supernatural is a great example of this. IMO the show ended in Season 5. Everything after that has been catering to the slash fic writers and Tumblr fangirls.

Then there are the series that seem to start out with some plan but eventually it becomes obvious that the producers are just winging it from season to season. I feel stupid that I got strung along as far I did with the new BSG series, but I pity the bastards who followed LOST all the way to the end in anticipation of some big payoff.

259 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:29:25pm

re: #254 Kragar

Stargate should have ended around season 5, limped on thru season 8 and its body dragged thru the streets as roadkill thru season 10

At least they had the decency to give Stargate Universe a mercy killing in season 2.

260 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:31:19pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

Then there are the series that seem to start out with some plan but eventually it becomes obvious that the producers are just winging it from season to season. I feel stupid that I got strung along as far I did with the new BSG series, but I pity the bastards who followed LOST all the way to the end in anticipation of some big payoff.

Babylon 5 was one of the few shows able to pull it off, but even then, execs dicked with the formula, which is why they wrapped up so much in Season 4, then had so little to work with in season 5. They were worried they were going to get cancelled before they could finish the story.

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:32:21pm

I have an answer to that.

262 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:32:34pm

And because the execs wanted to milk every bit they could from Stargate, they killed off Farscape early.

BASTARDS!

263 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:32:40pm

re: #260 Kragar

Babylon 5 was one of the few shows able to pull it off, but even then, execs dicked with the formula, which is why they wrapped up so much in Season 4, then had so little to work with in season 5. They were worried they were going to get cancelled before they could finish the story.

There was a joke around the time that Season 5 was going about JMS being asked what he’d do if TNT wanted a Season 6. “Two words: Scorched Earth.”

264 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:34:24pm

Two series that absolutely needed to continue: Firefly and Jericho.

265 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:36:15pm

re: #248 freetoken

Television is not a medium which entertains me much anymore. Maybe I’ve just grown too old, but my reaction to new shows is “seen that before”.

Reality TV is no more fresh or different than dramas, just cheaper to make.

As for American TV, maybe a Chopped episode here and there will keep my attention. Some of the BBC productions still entice me.

I wonder if the essential nature of nearly all of American TV - that it is a medium for advertisement - has forced a similarity across product lines, that thus has become so boring and repetitive. Or perhaps the constraint of the medium itself means all we have from now on are derivatives of past inventions?

I just can’t sit through the commercials anymore and very little TV content is interesting to me. I still check out Uk tv sometimes. The cooking shows are much better than ours.

266 Kragar  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:41:41pm

If my TV were to break today, I can honestly say replacing it would not be much of a concern

267 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:44:08pm
268 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:45:26pm

269 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:46:20pm

Thing that kept Stargate going for so long is it was a ready-made series for Scifi, since they just bought everything down to the sets off Showtime. And considering how they could save so much money on human-looking aliens with some face paint or different clothes, it’s no wonder they flogged that horse past the point of it being reduced to a fine powder.

270 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:46:53pm

*sigh*

One of the “Constitutional Conservatives” on my FB timeline is in the middle of patting himself on the back for supporting Bitcoin despite the fact he doesn’t know anything about it. Why? Because Paul Krugman wrote an editorial calling Bitcoin evil.

Yeah! That’s a great bit of reasoning there. Krugman thinks something is bad, so obviously it should be supported.

WTF.

271 Snarknado!  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:46:56pm

re: #266 Kragar

If my TV were to break today, I can honestly say replacing it would not be much of a concern

My basic cable has been out for a couple of months now. I’ll get around to making a service call Real Soon Now. (I still use it to play dvds, and even old videos.)

272 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:47:46pm
273 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:48:39pm

re: #266 Kragar

If my TV were to break today, I can honestly say replacing it would not be much of a concern

I’ve gone without tv for years. I watched tv and cable news for about 2 weeks this summer when my computer crapped out. I don’t miss it at all.

274 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:50:58pm

Between a DVR, On-Demand, Hulu, and Netflix, I’ve seen no need to watch much TV anymore. I wanna catch up on a series, I can do it at my leisure.

275 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:54:03pm

276 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:54:50pm

re: #275 Charles Johnson

Nice. What did you shoot that with?

277 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:55:42pm

re: #276 Political Atheist

That’s with the iPhone 4, believe it or not.

278 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:56:30pm

re: #188 jaunte

Has anyone actually made the argument that they’re refuting, that the attack was completely unplanned and spontaneous?

Yes, because it is for the most part true.

Tensions were known to be high in Libya, after all a full blown civil war to oust Omar Gaddafi had just concluded and armed militias (some of them Muslim extremest) were in de-facto control of various parts of the country. The Ansar al-Sharia militia group in Benghazi was particularly anti-western in that they wanted the country to embrace full sharia law/theocracy and wished for all corrupting western influences to be eliminated.

Still, even though we had intercepted talk from them loosely discussing striking American or other Western targets within Libya it was just that, talk. At least as far as the intelligence community was concerned it was nothing to be immediately concerned about.

Then came the YouTube video and in particular the giant protests in Egypt in response to it. During which we wisely let the Egyptian protestors overrun the embassy compound and burn flags/set other fires (but not enter the main building) without firing on them.

Al-Jazeera live coverage of the protests in Egypt led to violent and non-violent protests in about 12 other countries including Indonesia, far removed from the middle east. Members of Ansar al-Sharia decided that now was the time to join in and started calling each other to arrange an attack on the embassy annex. These phone intercepts are specifically mentioned in the congressional hearings, and show that this was a last minute impromptu thing rather than a pre-planned attack.

The Republicans keep saying Who shows up for a protest with machineguns and rpgs? To which the proper response is, “a heavily armed and battle tested Libyan militia intent on attacking the Benghazi embassy annex.”

Come on, the Libyan security force (hired from another militia) fled at the first sign of conflict, leaving only seven Americans including Ambassador Stevens and computer specialist Sean Smith within the compound. Yet the Americans were not annihilated within minutes (or even hours) even though the attackers outnumbered them more than 20 to one. Not exactly the sign of a planned attack designed solely to kill Americans.

Stevens and Smith died of smoke inhalation after the militia members finding their way blocked to where the Americans were by heavy steel bars decided to instead set the building on fire. The DSS agent with them managed to escape the smoke by releasing the bars on the office lavatory window and climbing out but could not locate Stevens or Smith to get them out because of the smoke. (he had also been wounded in the shoulder by a rifle round after first climbing out of the window)

The other two fatalities occurred about five hours later, after the five survivors (and Sean Smith’s body) had been evacuated to the CIA annex station about a mile and a half away. The Ansar al-Sharia militia was by this time bombarding the CIA station intermittently with small (40mm) mortar fire along with the almost constant small arms fire.

The stations roof had a parapet wall that the defenders had taken cover behind to fire down on the attackers. Eventually a mortar round unfortunately landed on the roof between two of the CIA station defenders and killed them instantly along with wounding several other people on the roof.

The survivors were evacuated without further incident since it was now becoming daylight and the attack ceased.

That is pretty much the all the relevant bits to the story.

So yes we knew that the Ansar al-Sharia militia probably intended to attack us or another western target at some point. But no, we didn’t have a date or any specific intelligence warning of this particular attack, we were just keeping an eye on them.

Ultimately this was a “unplanned” attack in that watching the news reports of the Egyptian protests is what set this assault in motion on that day. I think that pretty much takes care of “spontaneous” too, doesn’t it?

279 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:05:56pm

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

Stop holding that baby hostage!!!

Seriously that logic doesn’t lead to where they want it to. If it’s a person, GTFO, quit feeding off of me!!!

280 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:06:12pm
281 Bear  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:08:26pm

re: #275 Charles Johnson
It is Not a bed of roses.

282 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:09:21pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

I must admit my next smartphone choice will be shaped by the on board camera. The best camera is the one you have in hand at the right moment. D_L and I got to the tidepools near Laguna Beach yesterday at the December low tide. Interesting shoot, high noon and low tide. “Lake Laguna”, no worries about getting swamped or splashed.

I can share this one shot for now Paging after some more sorting and post work is done. 7d, 60mm macro. To make sure I did not get the lens in the water I stuck my finger out a bit to feel the water surface. The anemone was 2” under water. I’d hate to dip that lens in saltwater!!

283 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:24:57pm
284 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:30:13pm

Hmm. Something tells me this won’t go over well.

285 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:36:03pm

re: #279 Amory Blaine

If it’s a person, GTFO, quit feeding off of me!!!

Though you probably intended this as a joke, this is perhaps the most succinct description of the feeling of being pregnant with a child you cannot hope to support and that will destroy your dreams for any future you have worked very hard for.

Thanks for getting it.

286 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:44:41pm

re: #283 Gus

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You know, one thing that seems to be assumed in all of these GG/Snowden/NSA/CIA stories is that the US government is just Hoovering info and intel from all of these countries, especially that from those countries’ intel services, as if it’s strictly a one-way proposition.

Anyone with any idea how modern intelligence and diplomacy works knows that this kind of stuff is usually a two-way street, especially with our staunchest European and Asia-Pacific allies.

287 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:46:42pm

Oh crap.

JERUSALEM — In the first border flare-up of its kind in four months, at least one Katyusha rocket fired from Lebanon struck northern Israel on Sunday, triggering a heavy artillery barrage from Israeli forces in response. No casualties were reported on either side of the frontier.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a harshly worded statement to his Cabinet, blamed the Shiite Muslim militia Hezbollah for the rocket strike and condemned the Lebanese army for failing to “lift a finger” to rein in the group.

The United Nations peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon urged restraint on both sides and said it was in contact with Israeli and Lebanese authorities.


latimes.com,0,4356302.story#ixzz2ovV4wpOy

288 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:48:36pm

re: #284 Gus

Hmm. Something tells me this won’t go over well.

His future contract offers should be even higher since after ovarian surgery of that type his risk of future pregnancy leave from the team is almost nil. :p

289 GlutenFreeJesus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:49:37pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I thought this was pretty amazing, too.

“More than 95 percent of U.S. households own at least one copy of the Bible. So how much do Americans know of the book that one-third of the country believes to be literally true? “

I suppose I’m in that 5% minority…

Do Cliff’s Notes count?

290 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:53:56pm

re: #248 freetoken

Television is not a medium which entertains me much anymore. Maybe I’ve just grown too old, but my reaction to new shows is “seen that before”.

Reality TV is no more fresh or different than dramas, just cheaper to make.

As for American TV, maybe a Chopped episode here and there will keep my attention. Some of the BBC productions still entice me.

I wonder if the essential nature of nearly all of American TV - that it is a medium for advertisement - has forced a similarity across product lines, that thus has become so boring and repetitive. Or perhaps the constraint of the medium itself means all we have from now on are derivatives of past inventions?

It’s certainly gone too far in that direction. When I was a kid, the length of the average television program was somewhere around 52 minutes, with the remaining time given over to commercials. Now, it’s about 41-42 minutes of program, so it’s barely a 2-1 program to commercial ratio.

Also, it used to be that if a show made it through a full season, there were as many as 39 new episodes produced. For example, Gilligan’s Island, which lasted 3 seasons in the 60’s had a total of 98 episodes produced. At the current rate of about 22 episodes produced per season, it takes almost 4.5 seasons to get to the number of episodes once produced in 3 seasons.

My preferred choice now is Netflix. No commercials means you can get through three “hour-long” episodes in two hours.

Much less time spent watching insurance commercials.

291 Snarknado!  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 7:59:38pm

re: #290 BongCrodny

This. It’s also why I seek out BBC and public television programs, and programs that ran in the ’60s. Many of them are still well worth seeing. (Back then, a one-hour program ran more like 56 minutes. Time for an “a” and “b” story, and resonances between them,)

292 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:01:37pm

re: #287 Political Atheist

Oh crap.

Hezbollah is feeling froggy these days. The missiles were probablyto provoke an Israeli reaction to distract from the car bomb assassination last week. The Suadis and the French are working to give a boost to the Lebanese army….
bbc.co.uk

There’s a lot of instability and uncertainty in the region these days. Iran, Syria and Russia look like they’re on the rise and sunni-shia tensions are getting worse.

293 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:02:03pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

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Was Martin Luther King, Jr. a Republican, or a Communist?

MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS, YOU IDIOTS!

294 allegro  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:03:19pm

re: #293 BongCrodny

Was Martin Luther King, Jr. a Republican, or a Communist?

MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS, YOU IDIOTS!

He was a black guy. Answers all your questions.

295 ausador  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:07:54pm

re: #287 Political Atheist

Oh crap.

JERUSALEM — In the first border flare-up of its kind in four months, at least one Katyusha rocket fired from Lebanon struck northern Israel on Sunday, triggering a heavy artillery barrage from Israeli forces in response. No casualties were reported on either side of the frontier.

I’m kinda disappointed in the news article (but what else is new) for not saying that the Israeli’s “heavy artillery barrage” (which was probably about four rounds total) is only aimed at the sight of the missile launch.

Makes it sound as if they are indiscriminately lobbing artillery shells into Lebanon and don’t care who or what they hit doesn’t it? No mention of the small band “fire finder” radar used by the Israelis and us that instantly pinpoints the exact spot a rocket or artillery shell was fired from allowing you to target that exact spot for “counter battery fire.”

Oh well new day, same old shit, ” Lebanese fire one rocket, Israel retaliates with massive indiscriminate artillery barrage, stay tuned till we can let you know how many children were killed!!!”

296 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:12:04pm

Wow, Tony Romo just came through in the clutch to bring the Cowboys within two points.

I kid, I kid. It was really Kyle Orton.

297 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:12:12pm

Turkey knows which way the wind is blowing
Iran, Turkey’s New Ally?

298 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:13:12pm

re: #171 Justanotherhuman

I have a nice bottle of Riesling with which I’ll celebrate at home with whoever is here or comes by. For the last several years, I haven’t been able to stay up until midnight, anyway, haha. It hasn’t been an important holiday for many, many years.

On New Years, I’ll cook the traditional black eyed peas and fresh collards we have in the south, though. : ) Try cooking the peas w/plenty of sweet onion and red pepper flakes…healthier than the old-fashioned way. I’ll cook the collards with some red wine vinegar, and make some corn muffins and a few pork chops for the meat eaters.

Black eyed peas are for St. Lucia, saint of sight.

299 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:13:19pm

Thank you Cowboys for missing the 2-point conversion. Just a few more minutes to go and your season ends.

300 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:15:06pm

re: #299 Lidane

Thank you Cowboys for missing the 2-point conversion. Just a few more minutes to go and your season ends.

All Chiefs’ dreams are crushed.

301 Mattand  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:19:09pm

re: #299 Lidane

Thank you Cowboys for missing the 2-point conversion. Just a few more minutes to go and your season ends.

This is the first time all season I’ve worn my Eagles jersey. I may have doomed them.

302 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:19:17pm

re: #270 Lidane

*sigh*

One of the “Constitutional Conservatives” on my FB timeline is in the middle of patting himself on the back for supporting Bitcoin despite the fact he doesn’t know anything about it. Why? Because Paul Krugman wrote an editorial calling Bitcoin evil.

Yeah! That’s a great bit of reasoning there. Krugman thinks something is bad, so obviously it should be supported.

WTF.

I’ve been making a lot of heads explode on FB, mostly, by noting that private currencies fail, and fail big. There’s a reason countries have central banks and why private banks are no longer allowed to issue currency.

Bitcoin is no different.

303 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:19:37pm

re: #290 BongCrodny

Also, it used to be that if a show made it through a full season, there were as many as 39 new episodes produced. For example, Gilligan’s Island, which lasted 3 seasons in the 60’s had a total of 98 episodes produced. At the current rate of about 22 episodes produced per season, it takes almost 4.5 seasons to get to the number of episodes once produced in 3 seasons.

BBC “seasons” are six episodes. Quantity =/= Quality

304 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:20:36pm

YES! Eagles interception. Hahahaha. That is awesome.

Suck it, Jones.

305 Mattand  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:20:55pm

Ignore my last post

WOO HOO!!!

306 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:21:53pm

re: #295 ausador

The template will have its way,

307 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:23:14pm

huh, this is a bit of a stretch…..

With American influence in the region in decline, and with Israel and the Persian Gulf monarchies finding themselves united in their opposition to Iran, Turkey could find itself playing a central role thanks to its links with Iran. A new Turkish-Iranian partnership could be a welcome development for the West: Turkey’s economic ties could boost Iran’s commercial development, which would help consolidate the political position of the moderates in Tehran. The real gains would come if a closer relationship with Turkey began to erode the alliance of militias and radical religious forces on which Iran has relied to project its influence.

I really don’t see how improving the Mullah’s economy helps moderates, it will just consolidate the theocracy’s hold on the country. I also don’t see any chance in hell Iran is going to abandon Hezbollah. Now that Assad is safe in Syria I’m pretty sure he’d like to be more involved in Lebanon again and Hezbollah can make that happen.

308 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:38:48pm
309 Gus  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:46:03pm

“Of the 41 percent of Republicans who consider Benghazi to be the worst political scandal in American history, 39 percent are unaware that Benghazi is located in Libya.”

From May.

310 Snarknado!  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 8:54:15pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

huh, this is a bit of a stretch…..

I really don’t see how improving the Mullah’s economy helps moderates, it will just consolidate the theocracy’s hold on the country. I also don’t see any chance in hell Iran is going to abandon Hezbollah. Now that Assad is safe in Syria I’m pretty sure he’d like to be more involved in Lebanon again and Hezbollah can make that happen.

I don’t really see Iran and Turkey as long-term allies, both of them want to be the top dog in the region, and they have major religious and ethnic differences.

(Iran has been around for at least 2500 years, depending on how you count, and it’s not going anywhere [whereas Turkey has been as it now is for a mere 1000 years or so]. The current theocracy is a shift in the wind, which will shift again. The only thing you can really predict for the whole area is that it won’t be stable for quite a while. And even that could be wrong, so the US needs to keep its options open.)

311 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 9:11:33pm

re: #310 Snarknado!

I don’t really see Iran and Turkey as long-term allies, both of them want to be the top dog in the region, and they have major religious and ethnic differences.

(Iran has been around for at least 2500 years, depending on how you count, and it’s not going anywhere [whereas Turkey has been as it now is for a mere 1000 years or so]. The current theocracy is a shift in the wind, which will shift again. The only thing you can really predict for the whole area is that it won’t be stable for quite a while. And even that could be wrong, so the US needs to keep its options open.)

Good points. I haven’t been happy with Obama’s 2nd term foreign policy but I can’t get too bent out of shape about it. Like you said, the region is unpredictable any thing can happen. the one thing that most seem to agree on these days is our influence is waning. But it seems the French are stepping up to be a stabilizing force in the world. they’ve done well in Africa and maybe they can do better in the ME and Gulf region than we could. It will suck for our defense industry, looks like a lot of those deals are going to the French now. Oh well, so it goes.

312 freetoken  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 9:33:36pm

re: #265 Killgore Trout

I just can’t sit through the commercials anymore and very little TV content is interesting to me. I still check out Uk tv sometimes. The cooking shows are much better than ours.

The Great British Bakeoff is the best of the baking competition shows. Likewise, the original UK Masterchef is so much better than that Ramsey-fied version pushed in the US.

313 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 9:38:34pm

re: #312 freetoken

The Great British Bakeoff is the best of the baking competition shows. Likewise, the original UK Masterchef is so much better than that Ramsey-fied version pushed in the US.

Even the Gordon Ramsay stuff in the UK is better than we get. The UK version of kitchen nightmares was really interesting. A variety of different problems, chefs and owners or various skill levels. The US version is just repetitions of the same show with different people. Also Ramsay’s UK shows often show him as just a food dork instead of a cursing bad ass. He actually kind of a geek.

314 Lidane  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 9:54:56pm

Gordon Ramsay in an epic cooking battle for the ages:

Youtube Video

315 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 29, 2013 10:51:44pm

Turkey, for sure, is a long term ally. They really want to be in the EU and will, I believe, try to curb their rising extremistists.

316 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Dec 30, 2013 2:13:08am

re: #290 BongCrodny

It’s certainly gone too far in that direction. When I was a kid, the length of the average television program was somewhere around 52 minutes, with the remaining time given over to commercials. Now, it’s about 41-42 minutes of program, so it’s barely a 2-1 program to commercial ratio.

Also, it used to be that if a show made it through a full season, there were as many as 39 new episodes produced. For example, Gilligan’s Island, which lasted 3 seasons in the 60’s had a total of 98 episodes produced. At the current rate of about 22 episodes produced per season, it takes almost 4.5 seasons to get to the number of episodes once produced in 3 seasons.

My preferred choice now is Netflix. No commercials means you can get through three “hour-long” episodes in two hours.

Much less time spent watching insurance commercials.

What, you don’t wanna watch yet another Flo or cockney gecko commercial? Why do you hate America?
/

317 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 30, 2013 4:44:05am

re: #284 Gus

Hmm. Something tells me this won’t go over well.

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