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1 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:31:53pm
2 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:34:10pm

This is pretty cool. A friend of mine’s company designed the OLPC ($100 one laptop per child). It’s now on official Rwandan currency.

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3 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:40:12pm
4 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:43:57pm

re: #2 darthstar

This is pretty cool. A friend of mine’s company designed the OLPC ($100 one laptop per child). It’s now on official Rwandan currency.

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My kid bought one on a deal that sent one to Africa, and one to him. it’s part of an international Penguinista plot.

5 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:45:50pm

re: #3 darthstar

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I started ignoring 60 Minutes back in the ’90s when they covered something that I actually knew details about and saw how their reports ignored or glossed over information that did not support their chosen position and narrative.

6 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:49:26pm

Take your choice of coverage

ESPN “Mega-Cast” Coverage:

ESPN - Standard game coverage
ESPN2 - “BCS Title Talk” with coaches, analysts, and more
ESPNEWS - “BCS Film Room” providing film breakdown as it happens
ESPN Classic - “Sounds of the BCS” providing only on field, stands, and stadium audio
ESPN Goal Line - “BCS Command Center” with live and replays side-by-side
ESPN3/WatchESPN - FSU and Auburn radio broadcasts with video coverage, “BCS Campus Connection” airing live fan reactions, “BCS Spider Cam” watching from the overhead angle

Credit where credit is due - a Miami Dolphin site

7 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:52:15pm

re: #5 Feline Fearless Leader

I started ignoring 60 Minutes back in the ’90s when they covered something that I actually knew details about and saw how their reports ignored or glossed over information that did not support their chosen position and narrative.

I think that’s a universal feeling for anyone who has been in a complex situation ‘explained’ by almost any journalists. I have buddies from Desert Storm who absolutely despise Christianne Amanpour, though she always seemed cool to me.

8 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:54:23pm

re: #5 Feline Fearless Leader

I started ignoring 60 Minutes back in the ’90s when they covered something that I actually knew details about and saw how their reports ignored or glossed over information that did not support their chosen position and narrative.

It’s why I’ve tuned out from Old Media, as it’s ceased being about the facts and is now dedicated to the “controversy.” They keep invoking Solyndra as if it’s some proof that solar can’t succeed in America, ignoring that Solyndra failed largely because the global market is already saturated by Chinese companies which have major backing from their government. China’s setting itself up as the world’s source of clean energy, while our government remains a bunch of Koch suckers who remain convinced that fossil fuels will be as relevant in 100 years as they are today.

9 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:06:52pm
10 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:08:01pm

That video is reason 6,382 why I don’t try and play guitar. (that and I have no musical gifts at all). Again, a fantastic choice Charles.

RBS

11 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:09:22pm

re: #9 Gus

It’s a rough life.

Poor baby only gets one month off the entire year. That’s horrible!!

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12 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:09:23pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

I think that’s a universal feeling for anyone who has been in a complex situation ‘explained’ by almost any journalists. I have buddies from Desert Storm who absolutely despise Christianne Amanpour, though she always seemed cool to me.

Though I think it’s bit different from a short bit in the nightly news which is a minute or two tops without probably that much background investigation. As compared to a “news magazine” that can be topical, but often has had months to do their interviews, investigation, etc. for a 10-15 minute segment where they do have some time to cover or explain things in some depth.

13 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:09:58pm

re: #9 Gus

Nice work if you can get it.

14 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:11:04pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Poor baby only gets one month off the entire year. That’s horrible!!

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That’s to recover from that arduous four weeks of work in July.
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15 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:11:06pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Poor baby only gets one month off the entire year. That’s horrible!!

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Looks like 2 months. Plus a whole bunch of 4 day weekends.

16 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:12:31pm

2 months off. 4 day weekends and one week off per month.

17 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:13:11pm

re: #16 Gus

2 months off. 4 day weekends and one week off per month.

And these are the people who bitch up a storm when teachers demand higher pay because “They get three months of vacation!!!”

18 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:14:13pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

And these are the people who bitch up a storm when teachers demand higher pay because “They get three months of vacation!!!”

I’m sure they get more than 3 months off all told.

19 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:15:59pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

And these are the people who bitch up a storm when teachers demand higher pay because “They get three months of vacation!!!”

Or the people who lecture poor people about their work ethic. Eric Cantor is the last person who should be lecturing anyone about their work ethic.

20 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:17:03pm

re: #9 Gus

Geez. If I had a calendar like that and got paid the salary he did, I’d probably bitch and moan about the 99% too.

21 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:17:44pm

At first, I thought, “Geez, those guys take off more time than THAT!”, then I realized the highlighted part was when they were WORKING, not when they were off.

22 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:18:02pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Or the people who lecture poor people about their work ethic. Eric Cantor is the last person who should be lecturing anyone about their work ethic.

That was one thing that was a HUGE shock to me, coming from the Military to the Civilian world. Military I started my first year with 30 days paid leave. Plus we usually had a 3 day (or 2 1/2 day) weekend every month without fail. Got to my new job, and got a whopping 5 days vacation time year 1.

RBS

23 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:18:18pm

So that’s 112 days?

24 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:19:08pm

113

25 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:19:31pm

re: #22 RealityBasedSteve

That was one thing that was a HUGE shock to me, coming from the Military to the Civilian world. Military I started my first year with 30 days paid leave. Plus we usually had a 3 day (or 2 1/2 day) weekend every month without fail. Got to my new job, and got a whopping 5 days vacation time year 1.

RBS

Much lower probability of being sent where people shoot at you in the Private Sector, however. So, there’s that.

26 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:19:53pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

Geez. If I had a calendar like that and got paid the salary he did, I’d probably bitch and moan about the 99% too.

Six figure salary, various benefits paid for by taxpayers, and an almost guaranteed job in a lobbying firm or “think tank” upon leaving office. Like Charles said, good work if you can get it.

27 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:20:34pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

It’s why I’ve tuned out from Old Media, as it’s ceased being about the facts and is now dedicated to the “controversy.” They keep invoking Solyndra as if it’s some proof that solar can’t succeed in America, ignoring that Solyndra failed largely because the global market is already saturated by Chinese companies which have major backing from their government. China’s setting itself up as the world’s source of clean energy, while our government remains a bunch of Koch suckers who remain convinced that fossil fuels will be as relevant in 100 years as they are today.


Actually, China just pulled the funding from most of them.

28 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:21:03pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Six figure salary, various benefits paid for by taxpayers, and an almost guaranteed job in a lobbying firm or “think tank” upon leaving office. Like Charles said, good work if you can get it.

Or a spot on one of the major networks plus a comfy pension. As I said, these guys are the last guys who should be lecturing the poor, other federal employees, etc about their work ethic.

29 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:22:05pm

I think tomorrow is going to be quite literally the coldest day in my life. Here’s hoping Spring and my first niece come quick.

30 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:22:56pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon


Actually, China just pulled the funding from most of them.

Makes sense, consolidate the industry and focus on increasing quality. Market’s flooded, time to throttle things back so as to avoid creating a public perception of shoddy goods that would hurt the industry in the long run.

31 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:23:50pm

I saw that Native American wanna be fall off his horse once!!

32 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:26:02pm

They return tomorrow. They were last in session on December 13, 2013.

33 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:27:19pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

Makes sense, consolidate the industry and focus on increasing quality. Market’s flooded, time to throttle things back so as to avoid creating a public perception of shoddy goods that would hurt the industry in the long run.

Assuming that the list of firms they plan to continue supporting was honestly decided. Given the corruption in China, many if not most of the firms still being supported likely paid bribes to ensure they kept getting said support.

34 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:27:20pm

re: #25 GeneJockey

Much lower probability of being sent where people shoot at you in the Private Sector, however. So, there’s that.

I do have to admit that not once in 15 years has the company I’m with called me at 3 AM and said “Come on in, and bring all your camping gear, we’re going on a trip”.

RBS

35 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:27:42pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Six figure salary, various benefits paid for by taxpayers, and an almost guaranteed job in a lobbying firm or “think tank” upon leaving office. Like Charles said, good work if you can get it.

And therein lies the problem. I could never get elected to public office. I’m too honest. And even if that did get me elected, I’d never be able to get anything done and I’d immediately be voted out for breaking all my campaign promises.

36 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:28:00pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Assuming that the list of firms they plan to continue supporting was honestly decided. Given the corruption in China, many if not most of the firms still being supported likely paid bribes to ensure they kept getting said support.

Something I’m sure US firms have plenty of experience with as well.

37 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:29:21pm

They’ll be in session for 8 days then get 10 days off.

38 danarchy  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:30:16pm

re: #9 Gus

It’s a rough life.

I wouldn’t have a problem with that schedule if they actually spent the time off in their districts actually providing constituent services. My impression is mostly they just golf and go to fundraising parties.

39 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:31:38pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

Something I’m sure US firms have plenty of experience with as well.

Also in China, they had some pretty major anti-meth action recently:

More than 3,000 paramilitary forces and police descended on a small coastal village in China’s Guangdong province — many of them in helicopters and speedboats.

In the early hours of Sunday, they conducted 109 raids in Boshe, a village of 14,000 people.

In the massive crackdown on the region’s illicit narcotic trade, police seized three tons of crystalline methamphetamine, also known as crystal meth or ice, and arrested 182 people with suspected links to 18 drug rings, according to a statement released Thursday by Guangdong’s public security bureau.

They recovered another 100 tons of raw materials for producing drugs, as well as guns, knives and a grenade, a spokesperson for the public security bureau told CNN on Friday.

Some 77 drug factories were shut down in the raid, police say.

Boshe is located inside the city of Lufeng, long considered by authorities as a hotbed for the production and trade of drugs. In the last three years, one-third of China’s crystal meth came from the city, according to the security bureau’s statement.

40 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:31:53pm

re: #38 danarchy

I wouldn’t have a problem with that schedule if they actually spent the time off in their districts actually providing constituent services. My impression is mostly they just golf and go to fundraising parties.

Or paid fundraising junkets at resorts.

41 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:33:02pm

re: #38 danarchy

I wouldn’t have a problem with that schedule if they actually spent the time off in their districts actually providing constituent services. My impression is mostly they just golf and go to fundraising parties.

Not really true. They do go to fund raising parties, but for them that’s work, believe me. They also have to attend constituent events and dial for dollars.

42 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:33:15pm

The funny thing is while they’re taking time off, some of them will be on social media blasting POTUS for taking off.

43 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:34:01pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Not really true. They do go to fund raising parties, but for them that’s work, believe me. They also have to attend constituent events and dial for dollars.

It is work in a sense, yes but it’s also a lot of blowharding and self-fellating too.

44 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:35:24pm

I mean is it any wonder that this institution is at a historic low in popularity? I still don’t know how I feel about term limits. I don’t like the idea of forcing them but I do wish more would set limits for themselves.

45 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:35:38pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

The funny thing is while they’re taking time off, some of them will be on social media blasting POTUS for taking off.

That’s just par for the course. Being in politics means being a hypocrite,

46 gwangung  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:36:47pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

That’s just par for the course. Being in politics means being a hypocrite,

Yeah, but they do such a bad job at it!

(Also….MBF!)

47 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:37:04pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Not really true. They do go to fund raising parties, but for them that’s work, believe me. They also have to attend constituent events and dial for dollars.

If they weren’t leaving important legislation that affecte real people on the table, while voting umpteen times on Obamacare repeals which they KNOW FOR ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN are going nowhere, the lack of time spent in session might be less galling, but that graphic explains very simply why this Congress will go down in history as the least productive. Ever.

48 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:37:05pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

That’s just par for the course. Being in politics means being a hypocrite,

I know it is. It’s just amusing.

49 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:41:04pm

Look on the bright side, though — when they’re not working they can’t do any damage.

50 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:42:14pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Look on the bright side, though — when they’re not working they can’t do any damage.

To themselves or America? These days, they seem more of a danger to themselves to the country at large.

51 jaunte  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:42:50pm
52 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:44:24pm

re: #51 jaunte

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“What’s unpleasant about being drunk?”

“Ask a glass of water.”

53 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:45:33pm

Guess who?

It’s precisely that sort of “reasoning” that ought to lead one also to inquire whether the spying cases of AIPAC’s Larry Franklin and Jonathan Pollard suggest that Jews have too much loyalty to Israel to be trusted in high government positions and with access to classified information, or whether the corruption cases of Jack Abramoff and Marc Rich prove that Jews have a desire for unwarranted profits and therefore can’t be trusted around money.

54 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:48:18pm

re: #53 Gus

Guess who?

It’s precisely that sort of “reasoning” that ought to lead one also to inquire whether the spying cases of AIPAC’s Larry Franklin and Jonathan Pollard suggest that Jews have too much loyalty to Israel to be trusted in high government positions and with access to classified information, or whether the corruption cases of Jack APbramoff and Marc Rich prove that Jews have a desire for unwarranted profits and therefore can’t be trusted around money.

Hopefully the same person asked whether Catholics can be trusted since they’re spying and loyal to the Pope. Or the Protestants spying for Billy Graham I guess…
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55 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:49:57pm
56 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:52:11pm

Shorter Greenwald: Can’t trust “the Jews” in high USG positions because they’re beholden to a) Israel and b) AIPAC.

57 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:53:08pm

Greenwald being Nixon again.

58 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:53:18pm

re: #56 Gus

Shorter Greenwald: Can’t trust “the Jews” in high USG positions because they’re beholden to a) Israel and b) AIPAC.

I’d say he can’t possibly be serious, but one must always take The Greenwald perfectly seriously.

59 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:54:06pm

re: #57 Gus

Greenwald being Nixon again.

So who is Greenwald having ratfucked?

60 bratwurst  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:54:08pm

re: #55 Gus

Dammit…I was TOTALLY going to say Greenwald, but thought “no, Gus wouldn’t make it THAT obvious, would he?”

I’ve got to say though, Glenn is really going to have to step it up if he is going to keep up with the level of venom and intellectual dishonesty displayed by Juan Cole in the piece you linked earlier:

Recognizing Israel as a Jewish State is like saying the US is a White State

61 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:54:37pm

Evening Lizards.

I have a request. I want to download/capture video from Youtube.

Any suggestions? Links would be appreciated.

Thanks.

62 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:58:53pm

Notice that he doesn’t say Israelis. He says “the Jews.”

63 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:59:08pm

Nixon.

64 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 5:59:17pm

re: #57 Gus

Greenwald apparently thinks the Pollard case proves the drooling hypocrisy of the US, because if “everyone does it,” that should mean the US would never prosecute spies at all. Or something.

Don’t people realize yet how this guy is playing them? Of course he’s going to use the Pollard case to play up to the Israeli right wing, after years of Israel-bashing bordering on antisemitism. He has no shame.

65 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:00:26pm

re: #61 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards.

I have a request. I want to download/capture video from Youtube.

Any suggestions? Links would be appreciated.

Thanks.

There are some free browser addons with Firefox which let you do that.

66 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:00:30pm

Why I’m bringing this up:

67 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:01:29pm
68 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:01:37pm

Wow! It’s colder here right now (24) than it is in Lubbock (27). It bottomed out at 14 last night. The all time low for the nearest town (Mineral Wells) is -8 on December 20, 1962.

69 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:01:42pm

Glenn Greenwald: There Are More Snowden Documents on Israel - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz

Channel 10 asked Greenwald about the increasingly popular argument in Israel that given Snowden’s revelations about the scope of U.S. spying on its allies, Washington had no grounds for its continued refusal to free Pollard, who is serving a life sentence for spying on the United States on Israel’s behalf. Inter alia, the documents revealed that the U.S. National Security Agency had monitored the email address of the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office in 2009.

Greenwald agreed that the Snowden revelations are relevant to Pollard’s case. “When the U.S. government goes around the world criticizing other countries for spying on allies and prosecuting them,” he said, “are they going to maintain that with a straight face when they’re doing exactly that?”

It’s proper to raise Pollard’s case in the context of U.S. spying on its Israeli ally, he continued, because that underscores the hypocrisy of what the U.S. itself is doing. The U.S. government, Greenwald charged, does exactly what it accuses its enemies of doing, and no country has the right to say other countries shouldn’t do something while it is secretly violating that very same taboo.

70 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:04:52pm
71 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:05:31pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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He’s a hack. No principles. Just reactions.

72 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:05:46pm

It’s the Glenn Greenwald Global Ratfucking Tour 2014.

73 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:06:30pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

It’s the Glenn Greenwald Global Ratfucking Tour 2014.

Meanwhile, Russia and China are strangely absent from Glenn’s coverage…

74 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:06:59pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

It’s the Glenn Greenwald Global Ratfucking Tour 2014.

Tweet that. :D

75 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:07:11pm

Spies… like us?

Youtube Video

No Greenwald’s going to pull out all the stops, no matter how much pretzel logic he utilizes so as to make his point.

And if it means pulling in the Pollard case, then that’s what he’s going to do.

If it also means shredding the US-Israel relationship by leaking documents that might harm the relationship, then he’s all for dumping those as well.

Of course, when it does cause harm to the relationship, he’ll just turn around and say “who me?” all while snickering that he’s doing incalculable damage to US foreign policy and national security.

Because he still gets to play like he knows more than everyone else.

76 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:07:26pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

It’s the Glenn Greenwald Global Ratfucking Tour 2014.

Nominated for rotating — oh wait.

77 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:08:11pm

The USA is spying on everyone so release all the spies held in US jails! //

78 Mattand  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:10:43pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Glenn Greenwald: There Are More Snowden Documents on Israel - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz

Explain to me again how Snowden is a hero for releasing NSA documents that deal with Israel?

I mean, seriously, WTF, Glenn?

79 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:11:21pm

re: #65 Kragar

There are some free browser addons with Firefox which let you do that.

Using Safari. I DLed one a coupled of months ago that worked well, then the HD got trashed, Just wish I had written it down.

Live and learn I guess.

Thanks anyway

80 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:11:22pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, Russia and China are strangely absent from Glenn’s coverage…

It’s amazing how that works. Heck, there’s nothing released so far that relates to US-China or US-Russia. It’s all about Greenwald and Co. going after US allies and 3d parties in the hopes of making foreign policy more difficult for the US even as everyone knows everyone else spies.

81 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:12:19pm

Greenwald is playing to a very simplistic worldview where spying is not allowed. It brings to mind the phrase used by then Secretary of War, Henry Stinson upon discovering espionage done on the Japanese in the late 20’s and early 30’s- Gentlemen do not reach other’s mail. Greenwald panders through his writings, tweets, and rhetoric to that part of the world that doesn’t accept that espionage is a dirty but vital part of foreign affairs.

82 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:14:20pm

This guy……..mentally ill.

83 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:15:02pm

Personally, I still marvel at how anybody seriously believed all the talk in the beginning about how Greenwald and Snowden were only interested in shining a light on domestic spying and how they’d not do anything that hurt America or her allies.

84 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:15:22pm
85 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:15:24pm

Hello Lizards! Back from vacation. On Saturday I was drinking a frozen beverage on a Bahamian beach, and today I’m back in Kentucky where its two below. That’s life, I guess.

86 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:15:47pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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So is Snowden Mr. Bigglesworth or Mini-me?

87 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:16:04pm
88 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:16:17pm

re: #78 Mattand

Explain to me again how Snowden is a hero for releasing NSA documents that deal with Israel?

I mean, seriously, WTF, Glenn?

That first question belongs on one of those ‘Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka’ photoshops.

89 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:17:52pm

re: #86 thedopefishlives

So is Snowden Mr. Bigglesworth or Mini-me?

Mini-me. He lacks the grace and class of a cat.

90 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:19:23pm
91 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:20:32pm

It’s times like these that I miss the occasional dudebro signing up, because I’d love to grill them on how document drops about US spying operations abroad in any way help protect our freedoms here at home. Ask them why it is that we should be concerned about whether the NSA is spying on on allies, bugging phones, or gathering intelligence on foreign leaders. And then ask them if they really, honestly believe that none of our allies spy on us.

92 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:21:04pm

I have to hand it to Edward Snowden. He couldn’t possibly have found a better tool to hand over his stolen documents to. Greenwald’s ego has expanded to the point where he’s trying to change the course of US foreign policy toward some kind of twisted libertarian ideal — and Snowden gave him some very powerful tools by violating the basic agreements nation states have operated under for centuries.

93 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:22:18pm

re: #55 Gus

Hold on here—that GG quote is from the Mark Foley scandal, and he’s talking about Bill Kristol supporting the boy scouts’ ban on gay leaders, saying that Kristol was arguing that all gay men can’t be trusted around kids because Mark Foley.

In the next paragraph, GG says that “reasoning” (gay men can’t be trusted because Mark Foley) is the same rationale behind saying Jews can’t be trusted in intel because Pollard. Hence the scare quotes.

The guy is a sack of shit, but this quote isn’t proof of anything one way or the other.

94 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:22:52pm

95 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:23:43pm

re: #94 Gus

I regret, sir, that I have but one upding to give. So instead, I gift thee with an Internet for thy mastery, and I bow to you.

96 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:24:23pm

re: #94 Gus

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You gonna tweet that?

97 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:24:25pm

re: #93 The Mountain That Blogs

Hold on here—that GG quote is from the Mark Foley scandal, and he’s talking about Bill Kristol supporting the boy scouts’ ban on gay leaders, saying that Kristol was arguing that all gay men can’t be trusted around kids because Mark Foley.

In the next paragraph, GG says that “reasoning” (gay men can’t be trusted because Mark Foley) is the same rationale behind saying Jews can’t be trusted in intel because Pollard.

The guy is a sack of shit, but this quote isn’t proof of anything one way or the other.

IOW hes was using Pollard again to make a point of self-interest. Anyway, don’t really care about the details. I provided the link so people can read the whole thing so no one can accuse me of not providing the context.

98 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:24:50pm

The US is the only country that spies on its allies, which is why the US must immediately release any spies that were working for our allies, because they obviously were motivated by our spying and so were not committing a crime.

/Wait, what?

99 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:25:24pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

You gonna tweet that?

100 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:26:01pm

re: #93 The Mountain That Blogs

Hold on here—that GG quote is from the Mark Foley scandal, and he’s talking about Bill Kristol supporting the boy scouts’ ban on gay leaders, saying that Kristol was arguing that all gay men can’t be trusted around kids because Mark Foley.

In the next paragraph, GG says that “reasoning” (gay men can’t be trusted because Mark Foley) is the same rationale behind saying Jews can’t be trusted in intel because Pollard.

The guy is a sack of shit, but this quote isn’t proof of anything one way or the other.

More to the point then. He’s acknowledging wrongdoing by Pollard.

101 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:26:06pm

re: #99 Gus

Seriously though, it took me about 10-15 seconds of staring at it to figure out what you had done. Your Photoshop skills are first-rate.

102 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:26:36pm

A word to the wise: GG is a darling of the commercial media and the current administration in Brazil, but that can turn on a dime. At a more fundamental level, Brazilians are rightly suspicious and contemptuous of foreign meddlers, especially those who bring the outside world’s problems to a country where they have more than enough of their own. There are powerful forces there who find his presence embarrassing.

103 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:29:05pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Not surprising … Brazil turned down Snowden’s requests for asylum and after the obligatory outraged statements of disapproval, have now gone pretty silent.

104 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:30:53pm

re: #85 aagcobb

Hello Lizards! Back from vacation. On Saturday I was drinking a frozen beverage on a Bahamian beach, and today I’m back in Kentucky where its two below. That’s life, I guess.

Shouldn’t be hard to find a frozen beverage.

105 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:31:13pm
106 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:32:44pm

It’s releases like this that make it harder and harder to say that anything good came from Snowden. If it had stopped within our borders, focused strictly on accusations of NSA domestic spying, dudebros might have been able to make a convincing case that he was really a whistleblower focused on addressing the excesses of post-9/11 politics. But it didn’t stop there, it became a vendetta against the NSA, and that has made it easier to argue that the man was working to hurt somebody, whether it was his former employers or the US at large, rather than any dedication to rights or freedoms.

107 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:34:51pm
108 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:35:37pm

Conservatives stage ‘uprising’ demanding sheriffs ‘take back’ Utah from ‘homosexuals’

The CSPOA’s “uprising” consisted of a meeting in which a standing-room only crowd of same-sex marriage opponents watched PowerPoint presentations about the federal government overstepping its authority. Organizers and speakers claim that Governor Gary Herbert has failed the people of Utah, and that it is up to the sheriff’s to “take back” the state from “the homosexuals.”

Former Graham County, Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack said that “[t]he people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals. The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats.”

He claimed that the only way to “take back freedom in America is one county at a time. The sheriffs need to defend the county clerks in saying, ‘No, we’re not going to issue marriage licenses to homosexuals.’”

One of the event’s organizers, Cherilyn Eager, concurred, telling Fox 13 that “[w]e need people to stand up and speak out. We need to get noisy. We need some outrage. It is about the sheriffs now coming out to protect the people.”

Everyone except the gay people apparently.

109 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:36:42pm

re: #107 Gus

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May as well be from Duluth.

110 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:37:01pm

re: #108 Kragar

Conservatives stage ‘uprising’ demanding sheriffs ‘take back’ Utah from ‘homosexuals’

Everyone except the gay people apparently.

How exactly are sheriff’s supposed to “defend” the country clerks?

111 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:37:22pm

Sorry I needed to step away, but I read some thing I needed to Page:

At Guns & Ammo, No Room for Mild Deviation

112 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:39:36pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

How exactly are sheriff’s supposed to “defend” the country clerks?

By not doing their jobs and not enforcing the law apparently.

113 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:40:56pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

How exactly are sheriff’s supposed to “defend” the country clerks?

I though we went over this one; The wingnuts think they should defend the clerks using guns. It’s that whole, ‘gun as magic talisman’ thing again.

The focus on sheriffs is also tied into ‘sovereign citizen’ malarkey.

114 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:41:15pm

re: #109 thedopefishlives

May as well be from Duluth.

115 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:42:55pm

re: #112 Kragar

By not doing their jobs and not enforcing the law apparently.

I guess that works right up until state troopers show up to relieve the county clerk of his job.

116 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:45:18pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

I guess that works right up until state troopers show up to relieve the county clerk of his job.

AKA Obama sends in his gay jackbooted stormtroopers to impose gay martial law.

117 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:50:02pm

re: #108 Kragar

Conservatives stage ‘uprising’ demanding sheriffs ‘take back’ Utah from ‘homosexuals’
Former Graham County, Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack said that “[t]he people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals. The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats.”

Everyone except the gay people apparently.

Once again, there is that whole “Shoving their agenda down the throat” thing again. Am I wrong for finding that hugely amusing?

RBS

118 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:51:51pm

Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association

The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA, for short) is a US wingnut group that believes that sheriffs are “the highest executive authority in a county and therefore constitutionally empowered to be able to keep federal agents out of the county”.[1] It promotes this viewpoint as a method of saving the country from tuh overbearing fedrul gubnmint. Their membership consists of a staggering fourteen sheriffs, one county commissioner, and one chief of police, drawn from thirteen states (mostly southern and western). The organization draws much of its philosophy from the similar sovereign citizen and Posse Comitatus movements…

119 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:52:34pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

I guess that works right up until state troopers show up to relieve the county clerk of his job.

In the wingnut fantasies, the locals show up armed and prevent that. The state troopers either slink away in defeat, join the locals, or are slain by a hail of gunfire.

Sick, just plain sick.

120 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:53:33pm

Network (1976) - Ned Beatty - “The World is a Business”

Youtube Video

121 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:53:33pm

re: #117 RealityBasedSteve

Once again, there is that whole “Shoving their agenda down the throat” thing again. Am I wrong for finding that hugely amusing?

RBS

Homophobes think about gay sex more than gay people do.

122 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:54:27pm

Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack Seeks ‘Army’ of Sheriffs to Resist Federal Authority

He’s a graduate of the FBI National Academy who preaches that county sheriffs are the highest legitimate law enforcement officials in the land. He’s a hard-right libertarian who believes the federal government has no authority to require drivers to wear seat belts and who once demanded the government give him back the $4,800 he paid in income taxes. He’s a self-styled “constitutional conservative” with little or no formal legal training who believes that states can ignore federal laws they don’t like, despite clear language in the U.S. Constitution that says otherwise.

Meet Richard Mack — or “Sheriff Mack,” as he is more commonly known.

Mack, 59, is the raven-haired former sheriff of a sparsely populated Arizona county who was catapulted from obscurity to right-wing fame in the mid-1990s when he challenged the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and won a U.S. Supreme Court victory that weakened the gun-control law signed by President Bill Clinton…

Whether he’s speaking to local chapters of the JBS or appearing on far-right radio shows like James Edwards’ white nationalist program “The Political Cesspool,” Mack’s central message is that the federal government has far overstepped its constitutional bounds and that county sheriffs have the rightful authority — and duty — to protect citizens from what he believes are its unlawful incursions. This idea that sheriffs have supremacy over other law enforcement agencies and even the federal government was born and gained traction in the 1970s and 1980s when it was pushed by the explicitly racist, anti-Semitic Posse Comitatus (Latin for “power of the county”), which capitalized on the Midwestern farm crisis of the era to promote an extreme antigovernment ideology. The Posse’s founding tract, the so-called Blue Book written by white supremacist Henry Lamont Beach, asserted the county was “the highest authority of government in our Republic.”…

123 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:54:55pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Noticing that the Youtube links are getting kludged here (on Chrome 31.0.1650.63 m). Did YouTube switch up some setting or other?

124 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:55:10pm

re: #123 lawhawk

Noticing that the Youtube links are getting kludged here (on Chrome 31.0.1650.63 m). Did YouTube switch up some setting or other?

Fixed now.

125 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:55:54pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

In the wingnut fantasies, the locals show up armed and prevent that. The state troopers either slink away in defeat, join the locals, or are slain by a hail of gunfire.

Sick, just plain sick.

Yeah, I know, just like their fantasies are about how there will be a “popular uprising” and that the Armed Forces, rather than abiding by the oath they swore, will instead either defect to the side of the uprising or simply throw down their arms and refuse to fight. Why? “They’d never fire on American citizens!”

126 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:56:06pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Cool. Reloaded, and it fixed itself.

127 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:56:26pm

re: #118 Gus

Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association

They have as legal advisor one Judge Navin-Chandra Naidu, who has worked with many organizations from the Sultanate of Sulu to a Chinese county, and is a member of the American Federation of Television & Radio Artists. Sounds like an interesting guy. His website, “Ecclesiastical Court of Justice and Law Offices,”[3], has the usual stuff about the country being essentially Christian in nature, and offers advice on how churches can avoid paying tax. In 2001, he was a wanted man, accused in Fiji of forging his law degree,[4] and his dealings with the Pembina Nation in North Dakota have managed to irk the Anti-Defamation League. Of course, this is all the result of a conspiracy against him.

128 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:56:58pm

re: #122 Gus

Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack Seeks ‘Army’ of Sheriffs to Resist Federal Authority

I hate these ‘Sovereign Citizen’ spewers, I truly hate them. The lies and distortions they traffic in offend me deeply.

129 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:57:44pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

Yeah, I know, just like their fantasies are about how there will be a “popular uprising” and that the Armed Forces, rather than abiding by the oath they swore, will instead either defect to the side of the uprising or simply throw down their arms and refuse to fight. Why? “They’d never fire on American citizens!”

These people being the same people who come up with reasons to shoot down government drones and say private citizens should be allowed to arm rocket launchers to take out the military if necessary.

130 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:58:30pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

I hate these ‘Sovereign Citizen’ spewers, I truly hate them. The lies and distortions they traffic in offend me deeply.

This guy and this group are a bunch of kooks.

131 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 6:59:21pm

re: #129 Kragar

These people being the same people who come up with reasons to shoot down government drones and say private citizens should be allowed to arm rocket launchers to take out the military if necessary.

“The Second Amendment was meant to allow the citizens to fight off the Army, which is why I should be allowed to own explosives and rocket launchers!”

132 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:02:10pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

“The Second Amendment was meant to allow the citizens to fight off the Army, which is why I should be allowed to own explosives and rocket launchers!”

I love their fantasies where they think because they have a pimped out AR-15, they’re ready to go up against trained SWAT or military units.

133 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:03:19pm

Where’s Obdicut?

134 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:04:14pm

re: #133 Gus

Where’s Obdicut?

MIA. I’d been emailing him back and forth but haven’t heard from him since before Christmas.

135 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:04:15pm

Ah. The fantasy of being the underdog fighting off the government.

For certain values of “government” where gay people, non-Christians, and liberals are “the government” regardless of their politics or employment.

Also, consider that the back end of the “the military will back us” aspect of this fantasy is that they want to bear their arms against unarmed civilians who think differently, and imagine that the armed forces will help them in supressing those civilians.

136 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:06:52pm

re: #135 The Ghost of a Flea

Ah. The fantasy of being the underdog fighting off the government.

For certain values of “government” where gay people, non-Christians, and liberals are “the government” regardless of their politics or employment.

Also, consider that the back end of the “the military will back us” aspect of this fantasy is that they want to bear their arms against unarmed civilians who think differently, and imagine that the armed forces will help them in supressing those civilians.

Right there with “We got us a military base, so everyone there thinks just like us!”

Never mind that the troops there come from all over the US.

137 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:07:29pm

Needless to say, we are seeing a lot of violent and revolutionary rhetoric from the right. No matter how ludicrous and garbled it might be, enough of it will sooner or later lead to some major action by the small percentage of true believers.
It is interesting that there is almost no contrasting attempt by the far left to revive the revolutionary and violent rhetoric of Vietnam era far-left terrorists, still less to emulate European Cold War terrorists like the Baader-Meinhof gang. When we do see violent talk from the left, it is from the fringe of the fringe, mostly the drug culture, where it blends seamlessly into the right wing’s libertarian fringe.

138 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:08:05pm

re: #132 Kragar

I love their fantasies where they think because they have a pimped out AR-15, they’re ready to go up against trained SWAT or military units.

Occasionally they will get themselves and law enforcement personnel killed in a gun fight over something stupid like not having a license plate on their car. They also have a tendency to go to prison for not paying their income taxes.

139 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:08:09pm

re: #118 Gus

Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association

The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA, for short) is a US wingnut group that believes that sheriffs are “the highest executive authority in a county and therefore constitutionally empowered to be able to keep federal agents out of the county”.

If they’re that illiterate about basic legal concepts, they shouldn’t be sheriffs.

140 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:09:43pm

re: #135 The Ghost of a Flea

Ah. The fantasy of being the underdog fighting off the government.

For certain values of “government” where gay people, non-Christians, and liberals are “the government” regardless of their politics or employment.

Also, consider that the back end of the “the military will back us” aspect of this fantasy is that they want to bear their arms against unarmed civilians who think differently, and imagine that the armed forces will help them in supressing those civilians.

I’ve quizzed a dudebro on occasion about what the endgame for this whole “popular uprising” business is. After all, in their minds, they rise up against the “tyrannical” government and imprison many of those holding office for their “unconstitutional” actions. But what then? Call elections to elect a new government? That just puts them at risk of the same sort of people they disapprove of being elected. Install a military government or appoint one? No provision for that in the Constitution, so they’d be in violation of it.

The response I usually got? That they hadn’t thought that far, but were sure when the time came, those who’d overthrown the popularly elected government would make sure that the Constitution was followed.

141 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:10:14pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

“The Second Amendment was meant to allow the citizens to fight off the Army, which is why I should be allowed to own explosives and rocket launchers!”

Howitzers and tactical nukes for everybody!

///////////////

142 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:11:41pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

The response I usually got? That they hadn’t thought that far, but were sure when the time came, those who’d overthrown the popularly elected government would make sure that the Constitution was followed.

In other words, they’re ignorant, naive dipshits.

143 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:12:01pm

re: #121 Kragar

Homophobes think about gay sex more than gay people do.

I remember somebody here posting that “Bryan Fisher think about gay sex more than a gay porn actor”. I said the reason for that was simple, for the actor it’s just a job, for Bryan, it’s his fetish and reason to get up in the morning.

I remember one person telling me that “the reason Gays don’t come out is because they are ashamed for what they are”. I just looked them straight in the face and said, “No, I think they are ashamed of what you are.” I don’t have a lot of patience with idiots.

RBS

144 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:14:03pm

re: #139 Lidane

If they’re that illiterate about basic legal concepts, they shouldn’t be sheriffs.

“As a sheriff, I endorse the idea that the sheriff should be the highest arbiter of the legitimate use of violence and detention.

I totes won’t abuse this authority…pinky swear, guys. Because I have principles that cannot be shaken. Principles about how my elected position gives me total authority.”

145 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:14:22pm

re: #143 RealityBasedSteve

I remember somebody here posting that “Bryan Fisher think about gay sex more than a gay porn actor”. I said the reason for that was simple, for the actor it’s just a job, for Bryan, it’s his fetish and reason to get up in the morning.

I remember one person telling me that “the reason Gays don’t come out is because they are ashamed for what they are”. I just looked them straight in the face and said, “No, I think they are ashamed of what you are.” I don’t have a lot of patience with idiots.

RBS

Why wouldn’t a person want to come out when they risk being attacked, villified, called all kinds of names, told they were dirty sinners or crazy, and scorned by family and supposed friends?
/

146 Belafon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:14:54pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

“They’d never fire on American citizens!”

“Students at Kent State an unions in the late 1800s/early 1900s would like to have a word with you.”

147 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:15:02pm

re: #142 Lidane

In other words, they’re ignorant, naive dipshits.

Pretty much. In their minds, whatever happens, their good intentions will ensure an outcome beneficial to all. If you question how they ensure we won’t be back here again, they shrug it off with comments about how “the people” will keep the new government in line. What if the military decides they don’t want to relinquish power? See above. And what if the leaders of this “popular uprising” decide to shred the Constitution and install themselves as President-for-Life on flimsy legal grounds? “That could never happen because the people would oppose it.”

148 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:15:52pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

I hate these ‘Sovereign Citizen’ spewers, I truly hate them. The lies and distortions they traffic in offend me deeply.

They are an old cancer though. Wisconsin has been fighting these scum in one form or another (neo-Nazi, posse commitatus, sovereign citizen, etc) for decades. They’re one of the reasons I believe all Americans, liberal and conservative, should know how to defend themselves and their loved ones.

149 Belafon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:17:39pm

re: #143 RealityBasedSteve

“the reason Gays don’t come out is because they are ashamed for what they are”

“Or maybe, unlike your raging heterosexual self, gays don’t automatically believe that everyone they could possibly be sexually attracted to might actually want it.” (Of which this heterosexual male has been guilty of in earlier times.)

150 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:22:16pm

re: #127 Gus

They have as legal advisor one Judge Navin-Chandra Naidu, who has worked with many organizations from the Sultanate of Sulu to a Chinese county, and is a member of the American Federation of Television & Radio Artists. Sounds like an interesting guy. His website, “Ecclesiastical Court of Justice and Law Offices,”[3], has the usual stuff about the country being essentially Christian in nature, and offers advice on how churches can avoid paying tax. In 2001, he was a wanted man, accused in Fiji of forging his law degree,[4] and his dealings with the Pembina Nation in North Dakota have managed to irk the Anti-Defamation League. Of course, this is all the result of a conspiracy against him.

And apparently the Judge has his own law school

Now I’m not fluent in legaleese, but if one of the august minds here on LGF PLEASE tell me what in the heck this means. It’s from his syllabus.

At the end of 18 months you will sit for a major examination. When you pass this written examination, you will receive your Law degree and a special Bar License to practice in all secular courts.

The School will approach bar associations, to accredit you as a lawyer licensed to practice in federal courts through the pro hac vice rule or through MJP (multi-jurisdictional practice) procedures in conformity with the adoption of the The Role of Lawyers at the 8th United Nations Congress on the Prevention of Crime and the Treatment of Offenders, Havana, Cuba, 27th August to 7th September, 1990. You must understand that we need to instruct other sovereigns that we are equals, and not inferior to them.

Thanks

RBS

151 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:25:01pm

The dudebro/wingnut convergence is, if nothing else, good for a laugh at times. When they’re not hopelessly naive, they’re absolutely stupid as to the realities of what their fantasies would entail. The result of their hoped for “popular uprising” has a better chance of resembling post-revolution Egypt than it does a “Second American Revolution.”

152 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:37:10pm

*pokes thread with a stick*

153 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:38:03pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

*pokes thread with a stick*

We’re frozen…

154 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:39:16pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

*pokes thread with a stick*

We hope you’re using protection

155 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:39:33pm

We don’t know where that stick has been!!

156 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:39:59pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re frozen…

Not me

I’m inside !!

157 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:42:01pm

re: #114 Gus

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I’m saving these pics for the next summer heat wave.

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:42:14pm

re: #156 sattv4u2

Not me

I’m inside !!

I’m inside too.
Still cold…

159 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:43:32pm

re: #150 RealityBasedSteve

Now I’m not fluent in legaleese, but if one of the august minds here on LGF PLEASE tell me what in the heck this means. It’s from his syllabus.

It means that his law degrees are worthless.

160 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:43:53pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m inside too.
Still cold…

A.) ,, close the windows
B.) ,,put on some clothes

161 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:43:56pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

*pokes thread with a stick*

I was out hooking a little 1.5 amp trickle charger to the car battery, keep it nice an warm so it starts easy tomorrow AM. Going to be right about 0 tonight, record low today by about 4 degrees, and a new record tomorrow by probably 10 degrees. Sunny South HURRMPH

RBS

162 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:44:47pm

163 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:46:00pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

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Objects in the mirror may appear ,,,,,,ummmm,,,,, dude ,,, look at the colors, man!!!

164 Gus  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:46:05pm

re: #160 sattv4u2

A.) ,, close the windows
B.) ,,put on some clothes

Now you tell me.

165 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:46:44pm

re: #163 sattv4u2

Objects in the mirror may appear ,,,,,,ummmm,,,,, dude ,,, look at the colors, man!!!

Look at the colors? Just LISTEN to them!

166 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:47:47pm

re: #165 darthstar

Look at the colors? Just LISTEN to them!

What ,,, and turn the volume down on Zeppelin!?!?! No way man !

167 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:47:47pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

Reminds me of my favorite Philip Roth short story. Lost in the Fun House.

168 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:47:49pm

re: #159 Lidane

It means that his law degrees are worthless.

Thank you… I was about 99.999% sure that was what it meant. I bet he has a whole class dedicated to why if the courtroom has a flag with a gold fringe on it, it’s not part of the United States. The SC movement seems to put huge store in that.

RBS

169 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:48:30pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

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“We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.”

170 Bear  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:51:33pm

re: #168 RealityBasedSteve

A number of years ago a person complained about such a flag in the court room and the fringed flag was removed.

171 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 7:53:35pm

re: #150 RealityBasedSteve

And apparently the Judge has his own law school

Now I’m not fluent in legaleese, but if one of the august minds here on LGF PLEASE tell me what in the heck this means. It’s from his syllabus.

Thanks

RBS

It means that after they have taken your money for 18 months, you will receive a piece of paper you can use to wipe your ass with, since that is all it will be useful for.

172 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:00:40pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

“We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.”

Ah… would that I had more updings for anyone who quotes Hunter S.

I do dearly miss him. :(

173 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:06:06pm

re: #168 RealityBasedSteve

Thank you… I was about 99.999% sure that was what it meant. I bet he has a whole class dedicated to why if the courtroom has a flag with a gold fringe on it, it’s not part of the United States. The SC movement seems to put huge store in that.

RBS

Let’s put it this way — the long-ass UN document he refers to in his syllabus is from a series of Congresses the UN has every five years to discuss criminal issues and law . It’s interesting he points to one from 1990 when there have been a bunch more since then.

Here’s the most recent UN recap of all their Congresses on crime and law. It’s fairly short and just hits the major bullet points: PDF

It’s hilarious to me that a sovereign citizen type would use the UN as the basis of his legal philosophy.

Also, the pro hac vice rule he points to actually varies by state, since they all have their own standards for what that means and how an unlicensed lawyer can participate in the local courts.

174 kirkspencer  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:09:39pm

re: #173 Lidane

Let’s put it this way — the long-ass UN document he refers to in his syllabus is from a series of Congresses the UN has every five years to discuss criminal issues and law . It’s interesting he points to one from 1990 when there have been a bunch more since then.

Here’s the most recent UN recap of all their Congresses on crime and law. It’s fairly short and just hits the major bullet points: PDF

It’s hilarious to me that a sovereign citizen type would use the UN as the basis of his legal philosophy.

Also, the pro hac vice rule he points to actually varies by state, since they all have their own standards for what that means and how an unlicensed lawyer can participate in the local courts.

With the key point being that they tend to require you to be licensed in another state AND that your license meet all other state bar requirements besides passing the state bar exam.

Since for every state but California this means getting a degree from an ABA accredited law school, it should be obvious how likely authorization from the state is going to be.

175 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:11:27pm
176 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:12:48pm

re: #175 Kragar

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Lying asshole lies again. DERPage at 5.

177 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:16:57pm

re: #174 kirkspencer

With the key point being that they tend to require you to be licensed in another state AND that your license meet all other state bar requirements besides passing the state bar exam.

Since for every state but California this means getting a degree from an ABA accredited law school, it should be obvious how likely authorization from the state is going to be.

LIES! I just spent 18 months learning about your secular courts and how to practice law in them! See? Here’s my law license printed on hotel stationary.

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178 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:18:38pm

re: #175 Kragar

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Is this the part where we get a long sermon about how the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are based upon Biblical law/concepts? Or am I thinking of the wrong fundamentalist nutjob?

179 allegro  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:24:40pm

I have to take my dogs out for nightie walkies. It’s 29 degrees. I don’t have a coat.

I am going to be crunchie froze.

180 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:24:41pm
181 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:27:00pm

re: #180 Kragar

He realizes of course that by that standard, Jesus wouldn’t have been allowed to speak at all, since he was a Jew.

182 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:27:47pm

Speaking of the law, I would like to nominate this post as the funniest and most imaginitively vivid comment of 2013, posted on the last day of the year:

I have long been under the impression that any individual SCOTUS justice could douse his dick with Ronsonol, strike a match, and dance around singing “Disco Inferno” and it wouldn’t mean shit legally unless he convinced 4 other suckers to do the same. Have I completely misunderstood the SCOTUS this entire time?

183 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:27:54pm

re: #180 Kragar

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Well, if you start your argument from a false assertion, then it’s all down hill from there.

RBS

184 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:29:17pm

re: #180 Kragar

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I don’t think Bryan’s quite clear on that whole “Shall no make no law respecting an establishment of religion” business.

185 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:31:13pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I don’t think Bryan’s quite clear on that whole “Shall no make no law respecting an establishment of religion” business.

The wingnut theory on that was that it meant that Congress couldn’t interfere with the establishment of religion by the individual states.

186 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:32:02pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I don’t think Bryan’s quite clear on that whole “Shall no make no law respecting an establishment of religion” business.

Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by Congress in 1797

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

What about the Founders beliefs again?

187 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:32:34pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I don’t think Bryan’s quite clear on that whole “Shall no make no law respecting an establishment of religion” business.

The scary part is that I really believe that in his own mind he doesn’t see any problem or conflict. Since he (and the rest of that camp) tend to refer to anything that isn’t mainstream or fundamental Christian as a “False” religion, there is no issue. The constitution protects “Religions”, and since those are “FALSE” they aren’t protected.

I’m not being facetious on this one, I really truly believe that is how their minds work.

RBS

188 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:34:28pm

re: #185 aagcobb

The wingnut theory on that was that it meant that Congress couldn’t interfere with the establishment of religion by the individual states.

Yeah, the Supremes put the kibosh on that ages ago, in the aftermath of the 14th Amendment’s ratification. Then again, considering the 14th’s on their shit list of amendments they don’t think constitutional in the first place…

189 Lidane  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:35:48pm

re: #188 Targetpractice

Yeah, the Supremes put the kibosh on that ages ago, in the aftermath of the 14th Amendment’s ratification. Then again, considering the 14th’s on their shit list of amendments they don’t think constitutional in the first place…

So everything after the Bill of Rights, then?

190 122 Year Old Obama  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:37:53pm

re: #189 Lidane

So everything after the Bill of Rights but the Second Amendment, then?

FTFY

191 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:42:01pm

re: #189 Lidane

So everything after the Bill of Rights, then?

Basically. In their minds, there’s no need for amendments past the 10th because anything they can think of that’s not addressed in the first 8 are covered by the 9th and 10th. And numbers 1 through 8 are subject to their whims, such as the aforementioned belief that states can establish official religions. And, despite several of the Founders weighing in in favor of judicial review, they think Marbury v. Madison was an unconstitutional power grab on the part of SCOTUS because only states can decide if a law passed by Congress is constitutional.

192 kirkspencer  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:46:42pm

re: #183 RealityBasedSteve

Well, if you start your argument from a false assertion, then it’s all down hill from there.

RBS

From a petition by James Madison, 1875, in opposition to Patrick Henry’s application for a bill to establish a tax for the support of the Christian religion:

Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects? that the same authority which can force a citizen to contribute three pence only of his property for the support of any one establishment, may force him to conform to any other establishment in all cases whatsoever?

193 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:56:36pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I don’t think Bryan’s quite clear on that whole “Shall no make no law respecting an establishment of religion” business.

I don’t think he’s quite clear on the idea that Madison and Jefferson knew how to express their thoughts in words, and if they had meant to invoke Christianity, they would have bloody well used the word “Christianity” at least once or twice.

194 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:59:36pm

Just saw this elsewhere and decided to share it before wandering off for the night…



Good night & stay warm.

195 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 9:00:20pm

re: #193 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I don’t think he’s quite clear on the idea that Madison and Jefferson knew how to express their thoughts in words, and if they had meant to invoke Christianity, they would have bloody well used the word “Christianity” at least once or twice.

Indeed, it’s a bit hard to believe that a bunch of Christians who intended to establish this as a Christian nation would fail to mention God anywhere in the governing document of this new nation.

196 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:07:43pm
197 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:08:48pm

re: #180 Kragar

He’s so easily trolled.

198 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:10:27pm

King Tut…longest hard on ever.

199 Kragar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:15:38pm

re: #198 darthstar

King Tut…longest hard on ever.

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Buried with a donkey!

He’s my favorite honky!

200 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:19:58pm

re: #199 Kragar

Buried with a donkey!

He’s my favorite honky!

Well played, Mr. Martin…well played indeed.

201 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:24:15pm

The upside of protesting with a mirror.

Image: 1538636_10152583300614782_2005318217_n.jpg

202 darthstar  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 10:26:08pm

Okay…time for bed. Good night, everyone.

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 6, 2014 11:15:11pm

welp, about 30 minutes ago I was awakened by the sound of something shattering.
Got up, stumbled in the dark yelling at the cats.
Couldn’t find anything.
House felt really cold, so I started checking the pipes.
Kitchen sink: OK
Bathroom sink: hot water=yes/cold water=no
Bathtub: hot water=yes/cold water=nothing at first, then some slush, finally water.
Flush the toilet: coughing sounds, then finally water.
Put more wood in the woodstove.

Cat comes strolling in, very smug, with a fat mouse in her mouth, taunts other cat.

Other cat is not impressed, has discovered slush in the bathtub AND there is water trickling from the tap with which to play.

I’ll be up for a while, keeping an eye on the water taps and periodically flushing the toilet.

Oh, it’s -8F here at the moment…

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 12:01:05am
205 Lidane  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 12:21:40am
206 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 12:35:49am

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Take your choice of coverage

ESPN “Mega-Cast” Coverage:

ESPN - Standard game coverage
ESPN2 - “BCS Title Talk” with coaches, analysts, and more
ESPNEWS - “BCS Film Room” providing film breakdown as it happens
ESPN Classic - “Sounds of the BCS” providing only on field, stands, and stadium audio
ESPN Goal Line - “BCS Command Center” with live and replays side-by-side
ESPN3/WatchESPN - FSU and Auburn radio broadcasts with video coverage, “BCS Campus Connection” airing live fan reactions, “BCS Spider Cam” watching from the overhead angle

Credit where credit is due - a Miami Dolphin site

No Ocho ?

207 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 2:53:23am
208 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 2:54:42am

Well, it’s a toasty 7 deg here in this part of NC.

You?

209 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 2:56:15am

-12

oops my bad -16

210 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:08:00am

I’m just glad this freeze isn’t longer as it costs a fortune. My furnace hasn’t kept up although I am fully heating every area of the house, my furnace runs non stop and hasn’t tipped 70.

211 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:14:57am

re: #210 Amory Blaine

I’m just glad this freeze isn’t longer as it costs a fortune. My furnace hasn’t kept up although I am fully heating every area of the house, my furnace runs non stop and hasn’t tipped 70.

Yeah, I imagine this cold will suck up the $16 increase in my SS check I got this month. Or more. Thermostat is on 68 and actually, it’s pretty warm in here. Computer is located on an outside wall, so I just put a throw over my legs, so it’s all good.

At least we have heat and the money to pay for it. For that, I’m thankful. Basics first has been my motto—I couldn’t have survived without following it.

212 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:17:19am

re: #207 Amory Blaine

Jesus Christ…

Former ALEC tactician Robert King among finalists for UW System presidency

Univ to be renamed Koch U at some point in the near future?

213 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:19:06am

All 3 candidates are conservatives. Whatever. Drive it into the ground. This state is fucked.

214 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:31:51am

This poor guy doesn’t realize that the people he’s preaching to really don’t care. He’s called “crazy” and having a “nervous breakdown”, and they’re laughing at him.

Apple, Amazon downgraded ‘on moral and ethical grounds’

cnbc.com

“One analyst blacklisted several companies on Monday, citing a reason not often (or possibly ever) heard on Wall Street—moral and ethical grounds.

“In the report, Ronnie Moas, Standpoint Research’s founder and director of research, downgraded Apple stock from a “hold” to a “sell,” reiterated a “sell” recommendation for Amazon.com shares and initiated Philip Morris stock with a “sell” rating.

(snip)

“I recently read something about Amazon and how much pressure is on their employees … and at the same time Jeff Bezos with his obscene net worth of $27 bln was on his yacht in the Galapagos Islands. $27 bln and this man is not treating his workers fairly? It boggles the mind,” Moas wrote.”

Regardless of the fact that Moas is actually talking about Apple contractors in China, using such facilities for the parts and labor that go into their products, Apple and any company that operates in a similar manner could actually afford to pay and treat workers much better than they do and still make huge profits.

After all, if it wasn’t about the bottom line and increasing both their company and personal wealth and rewarding investors, any company could treat workers with the dignity and respect all of us deserve.

215 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:41:46am

re: #214 Justanotherhuman

Right on!

216 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:52:59am

re: #215 Amory Blaine

Right on!

I hope the Ecuadorean Navy bills Bezos for “rescuing” him from the Galapagos when he passed a kidney stone.

news.cnet.com

“The Internet billionaire was flown by navy helicopter from Academy Bay in Santa Cruz Island to a private jet on Baltra Island, according to a report in El Comercio. Bezos, who was on a sightseeing cruise in the area, was then flown to the US for emergency treatment, according to a report in El Universo.”

The article fails to mention the “cruise” was on his own yacht.

217 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:00:10am

hmmmm

FRED EX just showed up (at work)
Couldn’t let him in. The security gate is frozen shut (luckily he only had a small bubble envelope so he just tossed it to me over the fence)

DOWNSIDE ,,,, I can’t get out!!!!! (here for another 3 hours, so hopefully it will unfreeze by then)

218 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:08:07am

A toasty -3 here on the TN-KY boarder. Just going to get warmer from here on out, Wednesday is going to be 40, so we’re just about done here.

RBS

219 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:08:45am

re: #216 Justanotherhuman

Amazon won’t be paying taxes in this state. I do. And I’ve never had a fucking helicopter save my ass.

220 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:10:31am

re: #218 RealityBasedSteve

26 in Atlanta

64 by Saturday, but alas, raining

no golf till at least next Tuesday/ Wednesday (mid 50’s and sunny)

221 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:30:07am

It’s dropped to 6 deg here. Won’t get out of the 20s today.

222 sagehen  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:43:02am

5ºF here (NYC); may crack double digits by mid-afternoon.

223 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:43:55am

The rich will be getting richer in NC as flat rate income tax of 5.8% is passed. Actually, it probably only means that you, a working person, pays tax because the wealthy and companies have armies of accts to help them avoid paying any tax whatsoever.

And if you buy an electric car, the State will ding you an extra $100 when you register it because you’re not paying gas taxes.

And the rich will be getting richer…and you no longer get a “no tax” buying weekend for return to school sales and your incentive for buying energy efficient appliances just went down, too.

2014 brings new tax laws to North Carolina

wbtv.com

Yeah, Republicans really, really hate you but they love money.

224 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:04:10am

re: #220 sattv4u2

26 in Atlanta

64 by Saturday, but alas, raining

no golf till at least next Tuesday/ Wednesday (mid 50’s and sunny)

About 60 here on Sat and rain, too.

It will seem summer-like after this crap.

225 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:04:24am

Blast from the past regarding GW Bush’s disastrous new Medicare program rollout.

The States Step In As Medicare Falters

Two weeks into the new Medicare prescription drug program, many of the nation’s sickest and poorest elderly and disabled people are being turned away or overcharged at pharmacies, prompting more than a dozen states to declare health emergencies and pay for their life-saving medicines.

Computer glitches, overloaded telephone lines and poorly trained pharmacists are being blamed for mix-ups that have resulted in the worst of unintended consequences: As many as 6.4 million low-income seniors, who until Dec. 31 received their medications free, suddenly find themselves navigating an insurance maze of large deductibles, co-payments and outright denial of coverage.

But true to form, democrats didn’t cry treason:

Politicians in both parties were quick to rise to the defense of a particularly vulnerable population. As a group, dual-eligibles have incomes below the poverty rate of $9,570 a year and take an average of 15 medications a day. More than half are women, 40 percent have cognitive impairments such as Alzheimer’s and 20 percent do not speak English, according to Finberg.

Hmm that’s funny. Not one teabagger interviewed for the article. Where were they?

226 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:14:59am

Damn it pipes froze on the kitchen sink while I was at work. Grr.

227 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:16:51am

Scott Walker picked for jury duty — yes, that Scott Walker

Gov. Scott Walker can clear his calendar for the next couple of days — he’ll be serving on a jury at the Milwaukee County Courthouse.

Circuit Judge Kevin Martens advised Walker and a dozen other jurors selected late Monday to arrive promptly at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday for the start of what’s expected to be a two-day trial.

The governor will be hearing a personal injury lawsuit filed by Carri and Michael Natarelli and their insurance company against Gabriel Deltoro and his insurer. Martens cautioned jurors not to watch or read any media about the case, though he said he doubted there’d be any media interest in it.

228 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:24:12am

-5° this morning in Columbus…heading for a high of 9°.

Last night around 2 in the am I woke up (thankfully) feeling a bit cold. Walked out into my main hall and realized, holy crap…it’s cold in here, the furnace was off. Arrrgh.

I knew what it was, it has happened before, but not quite like this. When it gets real cold that air rushing into the inlet pipe is being pulled in so fast and compressed in the inlet curve it condenses and starts to build up snow-like crystals and when they build up enough, the air flows becomes too low and the furnace sensors kick the damn thing off for safety reasons.

So, put on clothes and out into the frigid air. These old houses are close together and I have to access the one side of the house through my neighbors gate…which I have a key to. Trying to open the damn gate half asleep, with a flashlight in hand and cold…not fun. Clean out inlet pipe with bare hand (fast…it’s damn cold and too long means danger)…close and lock gate and run back into house to turn furnace back on. Damn.

I have a little electric space heater that I run and aim at the inlet pipe to keep it warm…something I learned a couple years back. I didn’t have it turned on yesterday and I should have. I’ve found in the past it is needed when there is fluffy snow blowing down between our houses when around 5° or less. My thinking yesterday was the air was dry, no fluffy snow so I thought I cold get by. Wrong. Lesson learned.

After a nice warm cup o’ tea…back to bed!

By the way…anyone heard from Hoosier Hoops and how he is doing?

Brrrrrrrrr!!!

229 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:29:55am

re: #226 Amory Blaine

Damn it pipes froze on the kitchen sink while I was at work. Grr.

Space heaters…can’t live without them in some cases!

230 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:30:48am

re: #229 ObserverArt

Running under the sink as we type.

231 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:36:13am

Turn on your taps on night and let them drip water. It’ll help keep the pipes freezing. And if I remember correctly, it’s the hot water pipes that’ll freeze up first.

232 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:37:45am

re: #229 ObserverArt

re: #230 Amory Blaine

Letting a bit more than a trickle of water running all night also helps. These past 3 nights I’ve left water running in the kitchen (downstairs) sink as well as one of the upstairs vanities in the master bathroom

233 sagehen  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:39:59am

If I order food delivered, do I tip double the usual amount? Or triple? (I already know I can’t complain if it’s cold when it gets here…)

234 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:41:13am

Yeah I had the doors open but no dice. It’s a prewar stone cape cod, galvanized pipes inside exterior wall.I have intent on running pex and then bringing pipes up through the floor over there.

235 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:42:39am

re: #233 sagehen

If I order food delivered, do I tip double the usual amount? Or triple? (I already know I can’t complain if it’s cold when it gets here…)

Double is a tad much. If you usually do 20%, 30% would be fine

236 Mattand  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:46:59am

6° in South Jersey before wind chill. Not gonna complain, given what other users are posting and going through. Stay warm and safe.

On a lighter note, Ars Technica posted a story about how ahead of their shareholders meeting, the Apple board is going to be asked to get more people of color and/or women on there.

If you know anything about Ars Technica readers, you have a pretty good idea of how they react when things like white or male privilege gets pointed out. I certainly did, and thanked them for the entertainment about 90 posts in:

LOL, I saw the title of the article on the front page and immediately thought “I wonder how angry/defensive the Ars crowd will get when lack of diversity gets pointed out?”

The “We have to stop looking at race and gender in order to be truly diverse” comments are the most hilarious, Especially considering that in all likelihood, those comments are coming from white guys who have no idea how much privilege they have.

You know who says shit like that? Stephen Colbert. Unlike some of the butthurt Ars commenters, he’s playing a character who believes that nonsense.

Thanks for not disappointing, kids. Downding away!!!

Got a warning from a Ars board monitor about trolling. Made me laugh.

Was I trolling? Probably. Am I wrong? I don’t think so. Would I do it again? Hell, yeah. Someone around page 5 of the comments pulled the old “I’m not racist or sexist, but” defense.

I genuinely do think the reporting at Ars is well done, the occasional fawning over Snowden not withstanding. Some of the commenters, though? IMO, often they’re the poster children for the soft bigotry the tech world is still thoroughly enmeshed in.

237 Just never mind.  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:07:11am

re: #228 ObserverArt

Hoops is well. Yes, he’s cold but he & Winston are fine.
(I think he’s regretting Wisconsin)

238 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:07:29am

Walker should be excused from jury duty.

239 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:07:50am

4 F (3 according to my iPhone) here in Philly this morning. -5 over in Pittsburgh.

Cold enough the cat wasn’t sitting on the window sill this morning. She sat on the back of the office chair in order to look out the window. (The other cat snoozes next to me until I get up and feed them.)

About the coldest I recall it getting in Philly since I moved here six years ago. Personal experienced low however is about -30 F in the 70s when I lived in northern NY state along the St Lawrence river.

240 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:09:48am

Robert Scheer at Truthdig has penned a column lauding Ed Snowden and comparing him to John Peter Zenger.

The patriotic ideology that drives Snowden is a throwback to that innate American sense of personal liberty in the face of government excess for which Zenger stood. In every interview Snowden has relied on the simple notion that informed the founders of our nation regarding the primacy of truth in public discourse.

His commitment to that ideal cannot be comprehended by a mass media culture of careerism informed by public relations that trivializes all differences of truth and logic into incomprehensible mulch. His is instead the simple veracity of the once honored slogan that the truth shall set us free and that it is overwhelming government power that is most threatening to that freedom.

What is at issue in the information Snowden’s courageous actions have revealed is our government’s denial of the core principles of the enlightenment: rule by, and of, an informed and thoughtful citizenry that has come to be smothered by the omnipresent corporatized national security state.

Oh, brother.

Flowery prose aside, comparing Snowden to Zenger makes no damn sense. Zenger was a newspaper publisher who wrote articles criticizing the royal governor of the colony of New York. He was arrested on charges of seditious libel and imprisoned for eight months. His attorney, Alexander Hamilton, argued that the truth is not libelous, and Zenger was within his legal rights to print the truth, no matter how embarrassing it was to the governor. The jury found in favor of Zenger,

Zenger was a journalist. Snowden is not. Zenger stood his ground, and was arrested and tried. Snowden skipped the country. The Zenger case is a cornerstone of a free press in the USA. Snowden’s is … what? A legal precedent? Hardly.

Another big difference is the kind of information being shared. Zenger was reporting on the actions of the royal governor, which were not secret. Others knew about them. Snowden stole secrets from the NSA, and shared them with non-citizens of the USA, or at least non-residents, in the case of Glenn Greenwald.

How are these two guys at all similar? I don’t get it.

241 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:14:06am

Some appropriate (and strangely beautiful) photos:

Michigan lighthouses transformed into stunning giant icicles after being frozen solid by storm

Stay warm, everyone.

242 BongCrodny  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:14:38am

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

Walker should be excused from jury dutyleadership.

Fixed.

243 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:15:51am

Greets and saluts from the frozen tundra of the NYC metro area. 6 degrees on the Century 21 sign outside the building this morning. Wind chills in the unspeakable range (and while there’s a constant wind, the wind really picks up around some of the buildings here making it nearly impossible to walk.

This is pretty damned cold, but at least the house had heat, the office had heat, and we didn’t lose power like some folks in scattered outages around the City.

Meanwhile, an Amtrak train outside Chicago was stuck for hours. That’s gotta suck something harsh.

244 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:16:37am

re: #237 Monarch Butterfly Heading to rest

Hoops is well. Yes, he’s cold but he & Winston are fine.
(I think he’s regretting Wisconsin)

I hope he gives Wisconsin a chance. When spring comes and he gets into the real good seasons of spring, summer and fall, he’ll find out why he moved there. And as he get’s himself settled and prepared for next winter, he’ll be fine.

Thanks for the update.

245 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:20:17am

re: #241 makeitstop

From last January. 500px.com

246 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:21:05am

re: #240 wheat-dogghazi

Comparing Snowden to Zenger? That’s a new one. I’ll give them points on originality. But by going to these new lengths, it shows that they’re running out of excuses for his actions.

While these dudebros are at it, why not compare him to Nathan Hale? If you’re going to go with nonsensical analogies, why not go all the way?

Oh wait. Snowden isn’t willing to pay the consequences of his actions. He fled to a country that benefits from his release of classified US documents, and refuses to come back to the US because he fears being prosecuted (for all the crimes he committed - including countless counts of espionage and passing classified information to those unauthorized to have it).

247 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:21:30am

re: #237 Monarch Butterfly Heading to rest

Hoops is well. Yes, he’s cold but he & Winston are fine.
(I think he’s regretting Wisconsin)

Good to hear. Had visions of Hoops and Winston eyeing each other hungrily, waiting for the other to fall asleep.

248 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:23:42am

My grandddaughter just called—no water; their well undoubtedly froze up and the landlord is on the way. I told her to tell him to put a 100 watt lightbulb under the well cover and leave it there (temp is not going to get above freezing today and lower tonight, too). My son used to do that every time it fell below freezing here.

Plus, the school called and they have no heat. I asked her why the school even allowed the kids in? It was delayed 2 hrs anyway, and by the time they get it fixed and the school warm again, it will be time for them to go home anyway. If it was me, I’d go yank him out.

249 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:25:35am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Good to hear. Had visions of Hoops and Winston eyeing each other hungrily, waiting for the other to fall asleep.

I shouldn’t have laughed…but I did.

250 kirkspencer  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:26:24am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Good to hear. Had visions of Hoops and Winston eyeing each other hungrily, waiting for the other to fall asleep.

Winston would wait?
//

251 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:28:01am

Over 43K outages in NC & SC. The county my granddaughter lives in (adjacent to this one) has over 5K, so it’s a system outage, not the school furnace.

duke-energy.com

252 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:28:53am

re: #246 lawhawk

Comparing Snowden to Zenger? That’s a new one. I’ll give them points on originality. But by going to these new lengths, it shows that they’re running out of excuses for his actions.

While these dudebros are at it, why not compare him to Nathan Hale? If you’re going to go with nonsensical analogies, why not go all the way?

Oh wait. Snowden isn’t willing to pay the consequences of his actions. He fled to a country that benefits from his release of classified US documents, and refuses to come back to the US because he fears being prosecuted (for all the crimes he committed - including countless counts of espionage and passing classified information to those unauthorized to have it).

Zenger was someone to admire. Snowden, not so much. Comparing him to Zenger sullies the latter’s name and the principles on which Zenger and Hamilton stood.

Next up: Snowden is the modern equivalent of Giordano Bruno!

253 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:29:25am

re: #237 Monarch Butterfly Heading to rest

Hoops is well. Yes, he’s cold but he & Winston are fine.
(I think he’s regretting Wisconsin)

re: #247 Decatur Deb

re: #249 ObserverArt

re: #250 kirkspencer

They went to Wisconsin, not Siberia !!!

(wait ,,, is that a distinction without a difference!?!?!)
//

254 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:30:01am

re: #237 Monarch Butterfly Heading to rest

Whew, Must be a good story in there somewhere. C c cold story.

255 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:30:13am

re: #253 sattv4u2

They went to Wisconsin, not Siberia !!!

(wait ,,, is that a distinction without a difference!?!?!)
//

Wasn’t Hoops on the edge of going to Singapore at one point? Talk about a change in direction…

256 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:31:35am

Breaking News

LA County Sheriff Lee Baca may be stepping down. Announcement later. HT NBC news

investigations.nbcnews.com

257 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:35:07am

re: #252 wheat-dogghazi

Zenger was someone to admire. Snowden, not so much. Comparing him to Zenger sullies the latter’s name and the principles on which Zenger and Hamilton stood.

Next up: Snowden is the modern equivalent of Giordano Bruno!

I notice Snowden keeps getting compared to men who all ended up being brought before a court and in some cases ended up in prison. Apparently the fact that he bolted from US shores and won’t return unless promised immunity for his crimes makes him some sort of “hero.”

258 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:36:47am

So, Greenwald admits “we” published NSA docs. Remember that, GG, when you’re in the dock.


Actually, GG has no idea of what intelligence the US shares w/Israel, giving lift to the idea that the US whores for Israel while the US gets nothing from Israel.

259 Just never mind.  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:37:19am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

I suggested he burn the dining room table & chairs, if that was what he needed to do to stay warm!
He & Winston will be fine. It’s just a harsh learning curve.
And “the big chill” his first week, sucketh!

261 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:49:04am

re: #259 Monarch Butterfly Heading to rest

I suggested he burn the dining room table & chairs, if that was what he needed to do to stay warm!
He & Winston will be fine. It’s just a harsh learning curve.
And “the big chill” his first week, sucketh!

Baptism by ice!

/

262 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:50:51am

I used my seat heaters in my car for the first time….interesting sensation.

263 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:51:37am

and on that note, the long quiet (chilly) drive home beckons

264 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:53:37am

re: #263 sattv4u2

and on that note, the long quiet (chilly) drive home beckons

Assuming the gate will open?

265 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:53:52am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

I used my seat heaters in my car for the first time….interesting sensation.

They are good for keeping pizzas warm on the trip home from the pizzeria.

266 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 6:57:32am

OK, lizards, I’ll be a big man and admit it: the wind made me cry this morning. A few sustained gust of, oh, 30 mph in this 5 degree weather, and there were tears on my cheeks.

267 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:08:07am

You really have to love winter to live in the north woods. And unless you live in town you probably need a truck and plow or pay someone to do your road. Can be nerve racking driving at night on pitch black roads with deer and shit running around, snow drifting onto the road.

268 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:12:29am

re: #129 Kragar

These people being the same people who come up with reasons to shoot down government drones and say private citizens should be allowed to arm rocket launchers to take out the military if necessary.

Then I should be allowed to have them also in case I have to take them out. Really sucks how it works both ways.

269 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:13:03am
270 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:13:16am

Mornin’ everyone.

271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:14:57am

re: #269 darthstar

I just watched a duck dynasty marathon and proposed to my sister.

I assume she is of marriageable age: 16 or younger…

272 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:15:43am

Beginning of the first full work week for Congress of 2014 and the GOP are starting it off with filibustering a 3 month extension of federal UI, on the grounds that it shouldn’t come without “offsets.”

Oy-fucking-vey.

273 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:17:07am

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

Walker should be excused from jury duty.

They didn’t excuse Rudy Guliani back when he was mayor of New york City, although that was even more odd given that Guliani is a lawyer.

Scott Walker likely did not want to be excused, as his Democratic opponents would use that to suggest that Walker thought himself above the common man. Walker does not wish to foster such thoughts and perhaps hopes to use his jury service to see how his fellow jurors see political matters. Heck, if he makes a good impression he might win over some jurors who would otherwise have voted against him in the fall.

274 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:19:40am

re: #272 Targetpractice

Beginning of the first full work week for Congress of 2014 and the GOP are starting it off with filibustering a 3 month extension of federal UI, on the grounds that it shouldn’t come without “offsets.”

Oy-fucking-vey.

Unemployment benefits are an offset - they boost the economy and raise revenue.

275 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:20:40am
276 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:20:44am

re: #274 darthstar

Unemployment benefits are an offset - they boost the economy and raise revenue.

Yeah, but it’s “spending,” and they’re trying to use it as leverage to get cuts yet again to things they haven’t been able to cut otherwise.

277 jaunte  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:22:39am

Good morning from sunny (at 30 degrees) Houston.

278 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:25:21am
279 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:25:29am

Giblets.

280 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:25:36am

re: #244 ObserverArt

I hope he gives Wisconsin a chance. When spring comes and he gets into the real good seasons of spring, summer and fall, he’ll find out why he moved there. And as he get’s himself settled and prepared for next winter, he’ll be fine.

Thanks for the update.

Yea, but after this he can figure that he can handle whatever it throws at him. I know when I was stationed in Alaska the last date that somebody could be slated to arrive was in September, and earliest was March. They didn’t want people showing up in the dead of winter.

RBS

281 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:27:15am

Indeed…

282 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:28:55am

Sarsaparilla.

283 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:29:40am

re: #281 darthstar

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McConnell’s got a well-funded primary challenge, so he needs to say the right things and bash the right people.

284 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:30:07am

re: #281 darthstar

Heading for another showdown with the White House, while screwing the middle class. GOP politics as usual.

285 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:30:09am

re: #282 Gus

Sarsaparilla.

[slides drink down the bar to Gus]

Here you go!

286 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:32:13am

usnews.nbcnews.com

Sandusky wants his pension back.

287 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:32:14am

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

[slides drink down the bar to Gus]

Here you go!

Corn-pone.

288 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:32:42am

re: #281 darthstar

289 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:32:43am

Sioux City Sarsaparilla’s a good one.

290 jaunte  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:32:52am

Poobah:
baron, big boy, big cheese, bigfoot, biggie, big gun, big leaguer, big-timer, big wheel, bigwig, czar, fat cat, heavy, heavy hitter, heavyweight, high-muckety-muck, honcho, kahuna, king, kingfish, kingpin, major leaguer, nabob, nawab, nibs, nob, wheel, lion, magnate, mogul, prince, tycoon, VIP.

291 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:33:35am

re: #290 jaunte

Poobah:
baron, big boy, big cheese, bigfoot, biggie, big gun, big leaguer, big-timer, big wheel, bigwig, czar, fat cat, heavy, heavy hitter, heavyweight, high-muckety-muck, honcho, kahuna, king, kingfish, kingpin, major leaguer, nabob, nawab, nibs, nob, wheel, lion, magnate, mogul, prince, tycoon, VIP.

The Grand-Poobah.

292 darthstar  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:33:40am

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

McConnell’s got a well-funded primary challenge, so he needs to say the right things and bash the right people.

McConnell’s a dick who refuses to give an inch to a black president…on anything. Fuck him.

293 kirkspencer  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:34:16am

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

McConnell’s got a well-funded primary challenge, so he needs to say the right things and bash the right people.

Yep. And his problem is that at the same time he has to avoid pushing it so far the middle and left get riled.

I don’t think he can do it.

I think we’re going to see dancing on the precipice one or two times this year - maybe stepping off for a bit. Ceilings and shutdowns and all the rest. And we’re now too close to the election for the politicians to ‘let it blow over’.

I’m beginning to think we will continue to see a Democratic senate and Republican house.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:35:01am

So, for the 2014 GOP platform we have the following so far (in order of priority):
1. Repeal ACA
2. More creationism in schools
3. …

295 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:35:42am
296 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:35:52am

re: #288 lawhawk

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Apparently Costa thinks McConnell’s dealing this as some sort of “Take That” to the idea that the White House wants the UI extensions without any sort of offset. This is how childish they’ve become, treating any refusal to get their way as a reason to burn down the whole fucking house.

297 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:36:20am

re: #282 Gus

Sarsaparilla.

298 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:36:34am

re: #291 Gus

The Grand-Poobah.

Yabba Dabba Doo!

299 jaunte  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:37:11am

re: #297 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Frank Herbert’s coffee table.

300 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:38:39am

re: #293 kirkspencer

Yep. And his problem is that at the same time he has to avoid pushing it so far the middle and left get riled.

I don’t think he can do it.

I think we’re going to see dancing on the precipice one or two times this year - maybe stepping off for a bit. Ceilings and shutdowns and all the rest. And we’re now too close to the election for the politicians to ‘let it blow over’.

I’m beginning to think we will continue to see a Democratic senate and Republican house.

I think McConnell can pull it off, at least as far as Kentucky is concerned, since the playing field there is well to the right of the national average.

301 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:38:58am

House is back in session.

BENGHAZI!

302 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:39:20am

re: #294 Feline Fearless Leader

So, for the 2014 GOP platform we have the following so far (in order of priority):
1. Repeal ACA
2. More creationism in schools
3. BENGHAZI!
4. …

Next…

303 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:40:27am

re: #301 Gus

House is back in session.

BENGHAZI!

That reminds me, Breitbart was alive earlier with an “exclusive” about a letter sent by family as well as friends of those killed at Benghazi to Boehner, demanding he appoint a select committee with subpoena power to look into the “truth.”

And they didn’t manage three paragraphs before bringing up Watergate.

304 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:40:52am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

Classy as ever.

Ann Coulter Calls Melissa Harris-Perry MSNBC’s ‘Token’ African-American

Coulter knows exactly what she’s doing: Throwing red meat to the wingnuts. She doesn’t care about the ugliness of her words, all she cares about is money.

She’s a bitch.

305 kirkspencer  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:43:12am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

I think McConnell can pull it off, at least as far as Kentucky is concerned, since the playing field there is well to the right of the national average.

If he can win the primary I think you’re probably right. But that’s just one election, and not the tightest by any means.

306 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:46:16am

re: #305 kirkspencer

If he can win the primary I think you’re probably right. But that’s just one election, and not the tightest by any means.

It’s the election that matters most to Mitch McConnell. His focus is quite narrow right now.

307 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:46:53am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

Classy as ever.

Ann Coulter Calls Melissa Harris-Perry MSNBC’s ‘Token’ African-American

This is coming from the same “people” that defended pedo-Phil’s hate speech. Amusing.

308 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:48:05am

Greenwald is at it again. He has some new heroes and a new documentary by his old pal and partner in crime, Laura Poitras that he’s shilling, called 1971.

4 points about the 1971 FBI break-in

utdocuments.blogspot.com.br

Different decade, different circumstances, different political culture.

I was an anti-war protestor. If the FBI was monitoring me, they were bored. OTOH, even though I considered myself pretty “radical”, I wasn’t trying to bring the US govt down, either, or engage in criminal activity. The fact that an outspoken Haverford College professor wasn’t monitored, nor were the people he engaged in his scheme, also shows that no, the entire anti-war movement was not as monitored as many thought it was.

Notice how “brave” those who broke into the FBI office in Media were: they waited until the statute of limitations for any criminal charges are over. And 3 of them still refuse to come forward.

309 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:50:55am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

This is coming from the same “people” that defended pedo-Phil’s hate speech. Amusing.

Ann’s just pissed because no one will give her a show.

310 geoffm33  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:51:56am

re: #302 Gus

So, for the 2014 GOP platform we have the following so far (in order of priority):
1. Repeal ACA
2. More creationism in schools
3. BENGHAZI!
4. Rinse and Repeat

Next…

311 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:53:59am

re: #309 Justanotherhuman

Ann’s just pissed because no one will give her a show.

The same nasty shrillness that lets her sell books also limits her to guest spots. Even Fox News doesn’t want the grief and risk she’d bring if she were hosting a show.

312 bratwurst  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:55:03am

A fuckwit speaks out:

313 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:57:04am

re: #312 bratwurst

A fuckwit speaks out:

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Ari who?

314 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:57:39am

re: #286 Feline Fearless Leader

usnews.nbcnews.com

Sandusky wants his pension back.

Mrs. Sandusky can get a better paying job. No one is guaranteeing that she can continue living the lifestyle to which she became accustomed before Sandusky’s conviction.

And she had to know, so screw her. She just ignored what was happening. She’s lucky she’s not in prison, too.

315 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 7:58:47am

Apparently David Petraeus is still an innocent bystander in HIS affair.

316 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:00:40am

re: #314 Justanotherhuman

Mrs. Sandusky can get a better paying job. No one is guaranteeing that she can continue living the lifestyle to which she became accustomed before Sandusky’s conviction.

And she had to know, so screw her. She just ignored what was happening. She’s lucky she’s not in prison, too.

She should divorce him and sue for alimony which could be his pension.

317 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:01:27am

re: #312 bratwurst

Let’s see, chop government spending on projects that would increase employment (like infrastructure investment, research and development, etc,) and unemployment rates stagnate.

The GOP refuses to do any kind of jobs bill, infrastructure spending, or anything that might remotely increase economic activity if it means increasing spending without offsets. But to heck with everything else if you dare suggest cutting spending on defense because that would affect jobs.

The GOP recognizes that defense jobs are keyed to spending on defense, but refuse to accept that spending on other sectors would create jobs in those sectors (and spinoff jobs from those that support the initial job).

It’s not like these folks on UI want to remain on UI. Many would rather have jobs, but for the lack of hiring by businesses that continue to put their profits (and they’re raking in massive profits as per the S&P 500 and Russell 2000 and the DJIA) over hiring. Home building is rebounding in many parts of the country, home prices are rising, and the economy has turned around, but the GOP wants to show its compassion by chopping the safety net.

318 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:02:50am

Interesting. Using “RWNJ” on HuffPo results in getting your comment immediately deleted. What a shithole of a website.

319 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:03:54am

re: #318 Dr. Matt

Interesting. Using “RWNJ” on HuffPo results in getting your comment immediately deleted. What a shithole of a website.

What do they have against right-wing New Jerseyites?

320 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:04:49am

re: #319 Feline Fearless Leader

What do they have against right-wing New Jerseyites?

haha. Good point.

321 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:05:49am

re: #317 lawhawk

Now lawhawk, you know better. Their “compassion” is in kicking those people off UI, because it’s holding them down, keeping them from getting out there and finding a new job. Yeah, so what if there’s 3 applicants to every 1 job opening, surely there’s some jobs out there that they can work 2 or 3 at a time to make ends meet. It’ll be better for them in the long run, finding a backbreaking job in their twilight years to cover the gap between today and when Medicare and SS kick in.

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322 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:07:05am

re: #319 Feline Fearless Leader

What do they have against right-wing New Jerseyites?

I guess they really hate Chris Christie.

323 jaunte  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:08:36am

re: #321 Targetpractice

“You are fettered,” said Scrooge, trembling. “Tell me why?”
“I wear the chain I forged in life,” replied the Ghost. “I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it. Is its pattern strange to you?”

324 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:17:06am

re: #316 Gus

She should divorce him and sue for alimony which could be his pension.

Sorry Gus, but no. I agree with JAH: I cannot imagine that she did not know her husband was sick in the head, although perhaps she did not know the depths of his evil. But she chose to avert her eyes, as to a greater degree of culpability did Joe Paterno. For doing such she must pay the penalty and as JAH said she’s lucky that is only the loss of her husband’s pension. That money would by rights belong to Jerry Sandusky’s victims, not to her.

325 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:17:56am
326 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:18:55am

re: #316 Gus

She should divorce him and sue for alimony which could be his pension.

He isn’t getting a pension and she can’t get it, either.

She can have his SS and live on it like so many other women have to to do.

Like I said, she is lucky she isn’t in jail—if not for “spousal privilege” she would be.

327 Gus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:19:33am

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

Sorry Gus, but no. I agree with JAH: I cannot imagine that she did not know her husband was sick in the head, although perhaps she did not know the depths of his evil. But she chose to avert her eyes, as to a greater degree of culpability did Joe Paterno. For doing such she must pay the penalty and as JAH said she’s lucky that is only the loss of her husband’s pension. That money would by rights belong to Jerry Sandusky’s victims, not to her.

You can’t prove that. Or you would have to go before a court and prove that. Otherwise that’s just an assumption.

328 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:20:14am

re: #318 Dr. Matt

The Huffington Post imposed that rule as part of a cleanup they launched a few years ago to rid their comments sections of several colonies of moonbats. The moonbats’ loud barking and mounds of guano were repulsive to more moderate commentators and columnists, so HuffPo ran the moonbats off.

329 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:22:11am

re: #327 Gus

You can’t prove that. Or you would have to go before a court and prove that. Otherwise that’s just an assumption.

No, I can’t prove it, but it doesn’t matter. Any pension monies that would otherwise be due Jerry Sandusky or his wife rightfully belong to his victims. He forfeited his pension by his vile misdeeds.

330 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:23:52am

re: #327 Gus

You can’t prove that. Or you would have to go before a court and prove that. Otherwise that’s just an assumption.

Victims testified that she was in the house when he was committing his crimes. She must have heard the screams…she must have noticed the changes in behavior. She must have seen the blood, the evidence, in the laundry, which no doubt she took care of—the dutiful wife.

331 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:24:56am

Dennis Rodman’s Bizarre, Screaming Meltdown on CNN

This is embarrassing to watch. He’s clearly mentally unstable.

332 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:25:41am

I’m actually surprised Sandusky hasn’t been beaten into a pulp yet.

333 jaunte  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:26:08am

Nice beets.

334 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:27:19am

re: #240 wheat-dogghazi

WTFITS

His commitment to that ideal cannot be comprehended by a mass media culture of careerism informed by public relations that trivializes all differences of truth and logic into incomprehensible mulch. His is instead the simple veracity of the once honored slogan that the truth shall set us free and that it is overwhelming government power that is most threatening to that freedom.

I read this paragraph three freaking times and it makes no sense whatsoever. Scheer must have been drunk.

335 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:29:01am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

“The truth shall set you free” is originally from the New Testament and was referring to a SPECIFIC truth. It wasn’t just a general statement effectively saying “Be honest, it’s better in the long run”.

336 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:29:15am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

Ed Snowden is the John Galt of the new journalisms.

337 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:29:43am

re: #332 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually surprised Sandusky hasn’t been beaten into a pulp yet.

He’s likely in protective custody, and I suspect the warden is very careful about who is assigned to guard him. This is likely to avoid a situation similar to what happened to Jeffery Dahmer.

338 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:32:50am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ll try to translate.

Snowden is INVINCIBLE! The tiny minds of the mass media cannot comprehend the awesomeness that is Snowden. Only he has the keys that can release us from captivity by government control. He will set us free, I say, free from the fetters of government control!

339 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:34:13am

re: #336 Internet Tough Guy

Ed Snowden is the John Galt of the new journalisms.

No, he’s not. John Galt, at least as written by Ayn Rand, had a good idea of what he wanted to build after bringing down the ‘Looters’. Edward Snowden, by contrast, just has a bunch of complaints he ‘wants addressed’ and has no real idea of who things are to function after that is done.

The preceding should not be read as a defense of Objectivism. Ayn Rand’s ideas were very wrong, but unlike Snowden she did take the time and trouble to flesh them out.

340 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:35:18am

re: #335 Eclectic Cyborg

“The truth shall set you free” is originally from the New Testament and was referring to a SPECIFIC truth. It wasn’t just a general statement effectively saying “Be honest, it’s better in the long run”.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Maybe the next comparison of Snowden will be to Jesus.

341 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:36:31am

re: #333 jaunte

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Nice beets.

They had me until the 10 million no-see-ems.

342 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:37:59am

re: #332 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually surprised Sandusky hasn’t been beaten into a pulp yet.

Last I read he was in isolation, but was requesting to be put in general population……sort of like covering yourself in bacon fat around a pack of hungry wolves.

343 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:38:14am

re: #340 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Maybe the next comparison of Snowden will be to Jesus.

Already done.

Edward Snowden and Jesus Christ

trueminarchist.wordpress.com

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:38:41am

How’s that Rebranding going for ya, GOP? (This guy is actually running for state legislature in WA)

345 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:39:19am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Oh he is; he’s just the John Galt the dudebros think they read, not the John Galt Rand actually created.

346 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:41:08am

6 Deaths Reported in Illinois After Snow, Cold

Source: nbcchicago.com

Frozen fountain in Hot ‘Lanta.

Image: BdY7r8yIAAAjamd.jpg:large

347 jaunte  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:43:04am
348 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:43:30am

Unemployment Ins. takes another step. Sen Lisa Murkowski has not missed one chance to stick to the yahoos who tried to drive her out in AK.

nytimes.com

349 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:44:29am

re: #343 Justanotherhuman

Already done.

Edward Snowden and Jesus Christ

trueminarchist.wordpress.com

Stranger than fiction.

350 Dave In Austin  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:44:55am

re: #331 Dr. Matt

Dennis Rodman’s Bizarre, Screaming Meltdown on CNN

This is embarrassing to watch. He’s clearly mentally unstable.

Birds of a Feather……. He could just stay there and it wouldn’t hurt anyones feelings

351 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:45:35am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

How’s that Rebranding going for ya, GOP? (This guy is actually running for state legislature in WA)

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352 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:49:44am

re: #350 Dave In Austin

Birds of a Feather……. He could just stay there and it wouldn’t hurt anyones feelings

If he stayed over there, it would only be a matter of time before Kim Jong-un became became bored with Rodman and had him executed.

353 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:50:16am

re: #348 Decatur Deb

Unemployment Ins. takes another step. Sen Lisa Murkowski has not missed one chance to stick to the yahoos who tried to drive her out in AK.

nytimes.com

It was a senator who said it best: “Don’t get mad, get even.”

JFK was a senator when he said that.

354 kirkspencer  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:54:19am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

How’s that Rebranding going for ya, GOP? (This guy is actually running for state legislature in WA)

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Mr. Olsen, if I photoshopped your face on a KKK member leading a lynch mob, would you be more upset at the implied insult or that I put you in the wrong robes?

355 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:55:38am

re: #348 Decatur Deb

Unemployment Ins. takes another step. Sen Lisa Murkowski has not missed one chance to stick to the yahoos who tried to drive her out in AK.

nytimes.com

So. Republicans think “expanded oil drilling” will create more jobs? For who? Morons.

356 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:56:39am

re: #355 GlutenFreeJesus

So. Republicans think “expanded oil drilling” will create more jobs? For who? Morons.

At least they’re consistent.

357 Mattand  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:57:01am

And so, to add a third to the previously mentioned derp of Coulter and Rodman:

Matt Drudge: ‘I’ve Opted Out Of Obamacare For Life’

It’s entirely possible that Drudge is going to go without insurance and pay full freight every time he gets sick, incurring years of ACA fines in the process.

But I really, really doubt it.

358 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:58:15am

re: #355 GlutenFreeJesus

So. Republicans think “expanded oil drilling” will create more jobs? For who? Morons.

For the people who run the rigs, For the Teamsters who haul supplies to the drill sites and those who haul the oil to the nearest pipeline, for the steel workers who build the rigs…

359 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:59:46am

re: #357 Mattand

And so, to add a third to the previously mentioned derp of Coulter and Rodman:

Matt Drudge: ‘I’ve Opted Out Of Obamacare For Life’

It’s entirely possible that Drudge is going to go without insurance and pay full freight every time he gets sick, incurring years of ACA fines in the process.

But I really, really doubt it.

Ah, yeah, over-paying for health insurance is such a sound conservative economic approach. Idiots.

360 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:59:49am

re: #357 Mattand

And so, to add a third to the previously mentioned derp of Coulter and Rodman:

Matt Drudge: ‘I’ve Opted Out Of Obamacare For Life’

It’s entirely possible that Drudge is going to go without insurance and pay full freight every time he gets sick, incurring years of ACA fines in the process.

But I really, really doubt it.

More realistically, it means he’s going to buy ACA-compliant insurance on the expensive private market or establish a group if he has enough employees.

361 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:00:20am

Hey, it’s Buffalo…

362 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:04:39am

re: #360 Decatur Deb

More realistically, it means he’s going to by ACA-compliant insurance on the expensive private market or establish a group if he has enough employees.

Eggman is worth millions. He can afford and will likely just pay out of pocket for his health care needs.

363 Mattand  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:08:01am

re: #360 Decatur Deb

More realistically, it means he’s going to buy ACA-compliant insurance on the expensive private market or establish a group if he has enough employees.

I know that; you know that; the commenters here know that.

You know who doesn’t? Drudge’s readership.

I’ll say this much: the guy has definitely not gone broke underestimating his fans’ mental accumen.

364 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:09:01am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Eggman is worth millions. He can afford and will likely just pay out of pocket for his health care needs.

And he can expense it, too, for income tax purposes.

365 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:11:02am

re: #361 Justanotherhuman

intellicast.com

366 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:13:11am

re: #365 lawhawk

intellicast.com

Lake effect: intellicast.com

Here in NC, as of right now, we’ve achieved a high of 19. And the sun is out.

367 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:15:09am

Malkin being Malkin:


Let’s just ignore that this Congress has done less than any other in history, and basically took all of December off. It was in session for fewer days than any in recent history. But let’s complain about the President who never truly has a day off even if he’s not in the White House at a point in time.

SMH.

368 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:17:32am

Go to hell. Go straight to hell and don’t collect a pension on your way.

369 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:21:25am

re: #368 Justanotherhuman

Go to hell. Go straight to hell and don’t collect a pension on your way.

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That vile piece of filth is still trying to weasel away from his wrongdoing.

I truly wish the death penalty had been available in Jerry Sandusky’s case. That monster should not be breathing.

370 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:23:47am

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

They didn’t excuse Rudy Guliani back when he was mayor of New york City, although that was even more odd given that Guliani is a lawyer.

Scott Walker likely did not want to be excused, as his Democratic opponents would use that to suggest that Walker thought himself above the common man. Walker does not wish to foster such thoughts and perhaps hopes to use his jury service to see how his fellow jurors see political matters. Heck, if he makes a good impression he might win over some jurors who would otherwise have voted against him in the fall.

Have a friend who is an attorney that specializes in workouts and settlements, but doesn’t do any litigation.

He was called to jury duty, so appeared and was excused. As it turned out during voir dire that he was friends with both the plaintiff and defendant.

Outside the courtroom, he came across the plaintiff and defendant. While talking to them in the hallway, he as a third party, got them to agree to settle the case out of court. He didn’t sent them a bill, because he knew in the future who they would call for legal counseling.

371 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:24:14am
372 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:25:11am

re: #371 lawhawk

Because gas is just so cheap, don’t you know.

373 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:25:52am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

That vile piece of filth is still trying to weasel away from his wrongdoing.

I truly wish the death penalty had been available in Jerry Sandusky’s case. That monster should not be breathing.

Actually, I’m against the death penalty. But Sandusky just admitted, at least, that victims #2-8 were, in fact, victims.

He deserves whatever happens to him, and no pension whatsoever. The same goes for his wife. I’m really tired of people getting away with this kind of shit, I don’t care who they are,

374 blueraven  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:26:13am

re: #372 Eclectic Cyborg

Because gas is just so cheap, don’t you know.

And a hotel, and a day or two off work. Who cares?

375 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:26:50am

Ben u stupid fuck

376 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:27:25am

re: #370 BeenHereAwhile

Have a friend who is an attorney that specializes in workouts and settlements, but doesn’t do any litigation.

He was called to jury duty, so appeared and was excused. As it turned out during voir dire that he was friends with both the plaintiff and defendant.

Outside the courtroom, he came across the plaintiff and defendant. While talking to them in the hallway, he as a third party, got them to agree to settle the case out of court. He didn’t sent them a bill, because he knew in the future who they would call for legal counseling.

Where some see annoyance, smart people may see opportunity. Wise is the man who keeps his eyes open and makes the most of his chances.

377 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:28:39am

re: #370 BeenHereAwhile

Have a friend who is an attorney that specializes in workouts and settlements, but doesn’t do any litigation.

He was called to jury duty, so appeared and was excused. As it turned out during voir dire that he was friends with both the plaintiff and defendant.

Outside the courtroom, he came across the plaintiff and defendant. While talking to them in the hallway, he as a third party, got them to agree to settle the case out of court. He didn’t sent them a bill, because he knew in the future who they would call for legal counseling.

That’s pretty smooth.

378 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:28:46am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

How’s that Rebranding going for ya, GOP? (This guy is actually running for state legislature in WA)

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I checked out his twitter feed. This guy may just make Jim Hoft look like a freaking genius. He ran and lost in 2010, suspect this won’t help him any this time around.

RBS

379 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:29:45am

re: #370 BeenHereAwhile

Have a friend who is an attorney that specializes in workouts and settlements, but doesn’t do any litigation.

He was called to jury duty, so appeared and was excused. As it turned out during voir dire that he was friends with both the plaintiff and defendant.

Outside the courtroom, he came across the plaintiff and defendant. While talking to them in the hallway, he as a third party, got them to agree to settle the case out of court. He didn’t sent them a bill, because he knew in the future who they would call for legal counseling.

Lawyers usually don’t want other lawyers on a jury anyway. When I was a paralegal, I was excused—they don’t want anyone who works in the legal field who might have some understanding of law and who work with it every day—they seeing it as “tainting” the jury.

380 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:32:18am

Photoshop!

381 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:35:46am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

Lawyers usually don’t want other lawyers on a jury anyway. When I was a paralegal, I was excused—they don’t want anyone who works in the legal field who might have some understanding of law and who work with it every day—they seeing it as “tainting” the jury.

That’s part of what made Rudy Guliani being picked for a jury so strange and given that it was a criminal case I’ve since wondered if the defendant’s attorney was competent. Picking a former prosecutor for a criminal trial mean the likely leader of the jury is someone who both knows the law and is unlikely to be sympathetic to the defendant.

382 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:39:41am

re: #375 Pie-onist Overlord

Ben u stupid fuck


Why not put the unemployed on Unemployment so that they can have some money to (a) keep themselves and their dependents alive and (b) increase the immediate demand for goods and services and thus buoy the economy?

But no.

383 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:40:03am
384 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:41:06am

re: #370 BeenHereAwhile

What he did was extremely unethical. It’s called “soliciting” and he evidently knew it and knew he couldn’t send them a bill because he was not the attorney of record for either of them. And he couldn’t have represented both, either—that’s called a conflict of interest.

385 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:42:13am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The prayers of the mantis were answered and Jesus knocked the heathen dog senseless!

386 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:44:13am

re: #382 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

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Why not put the >unemployed on Unemployment so that they can have some money to (a) keep themselves and their dependents alive and (b) increase the immediate demand for goods and services and thus buoy the economy?

But no.

The only thing stupider than than Ben’s comment are the responses to it.

HURR HURR PEOPLE LOVE BEING ON UNEMPLOYMENT BECAUSE THEY GET MONEY AND DON’T HAVE TO WORK HURR HURR!!!!111

HE U STUPID ENGINEER LAID OFF FROM GM U WILL NEVER FIND ANOTHER $75k JOB GET A JRRB AT WALMART OR MCD, U THINK UR TOO GOOD 4!!!!

387 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:45:04am

True Facts about the Mantis

Youtube Video

RBS

388 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:46:07am

HURR HURR U UNEMPLOYED 60 YEAR OLD, GO OUT & SHOVEL SNOW HURR HURR

389 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:48:40am

The little weasel Shapiro tries a bit too hard to troll. He’s a shabby knockoff of Erikkk son of Erikkk.

390 Mattand  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:52:59am

re: #387 RealityBasedSteve

>True Facts about the Mantis

[Embedded content]

RBS

They also are unrepentant criminals:

Youtube Video

391 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:54:46am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

The little weasel Shapiro tries a bit too hard to troll. He’s a shabby knockoff of Erikkk son of Erikkk.

I see what you did there…

392 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:58:03am

re: #331 Dr. Matt

Dennis Rodman’s Bizarre, Screaming Meltdown on CNN

This is embarrassing to watch. He’s clearly mentally unstable.

Was a good rebounder, was always interesting to watch him run backwards as fast as his opponents on their fast breaks. Allegedly has 42 siblings.

And his nickname is “Wormy.”

393 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:03:10am


[…]

In other border briefs provided by the agency, a 24-year-old Phoenix woman on her way into Mexico on New Year’s Day was busted with 6,000 rounds of ammunition, and in separate incidents, a Mexican woman attempted to bring 15 pounds of meth into the U.S., and an Avondale man tried to bring in 50 pounds of meth.

394 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:06:01am

re: #392 BeenHereAwhile

Was a good rebounder, was always interesting to watch him run backwards as fast as his opponents on their fast breaks. Allegedly has 42 siblings.

And his nickname is “Wormy.”

I grew up in Detroit in the 70s and 80s while the Pistons and the Bad Boys wreaked havoc in the NBA. I was a HUGE Rodman fan when he was a Piston. I was crushed when he was traded to SA. Little did we know what was brewing inside.

395 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:06:21am

Heck of a rebranding mission by the GOP.

396 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:07:19am

No, sorry, this is not “innovative”. And really, depending on “friends” to give the correct answers?

Twitter founder Biz Stone launches Jelly, a social Q&A network for mobile

theverge.com

Is our children gettin’ lazier? Are software/app developers in it for the quick buck?

397 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:12:56am

re: #394 Dr. Matt

I grew up in Detroit in the 70s and 80s while the Pistons and the Bad Boys wreaked havoc in the NBA. I was a HUGE Rodman fan when he was a Piston. I was crushed when he was traded to SA. Little did we know what was brewing inside.

I cheered when the Bulls signed him, as he was the rebound expert Chicago needed to win championships, and for three years he played the role Horace Grant had played in the Bulls’ first “Threepeat” run. For that reason, I am frustrated and angered by Rodman’s actions but I’ll never hate him.

398 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:13:33am

re: #393 wrenchwench

Haha, I liked this story, too.

Mark Connelly, Phoenix-Area Megachurch Pastor, Resigns Over Alleged Affairs

blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com

400 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:14:10am

re: #396 Justanotherhuman

No, sorry, this is not “innovative”. And really, depending on “friends” to give the correct answers?

Twitter founder Biz Stone launches Jelly, a social Q&A network for mobile

theverge.com

Is our children gettin’ lazier? Are software/app developers in it for the quick buck?

It’s just another bunch of bullshit that some marketing genius sold to a bunch of rich people for millions. WARNING: Comedy Central autoplay at link that you have to scroll down to find and turn off.

401 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:15:19am

re: #397 Dark_Falcon

I cheered when the Bulls signed him, as he was the rebound expert Chicago needed to win championships, and for three years he played the role Horace Grant had played in the Bulls’ first “Threepeat” run. For that reason, I am frustrated and angered by Rodman’s actions but I’ll never hate him.

As a rival fan across the lake, it was painful to see Rodman in that uni….almost as painful as seeing Chris Chelios wear the Winged Wheel.

402 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:17:17am

re: #393 wrenchwench

In other border briefs provided by the agency, a 24-year-old Phoenix woman on her way into Mexico on New Year’s Day was busted with 6,000 rounds of ammunition, and in separate incidents, a Mexican woman attempted to bring 15 pounds of meth into the U.S., and an Avondale man tried to bring in 50 pounds of meth.

That first story may inspire yet more ‘Fast and Furious’ carping, especially since one of the guns that was ‘walked’ was recently used in a shootout at a Mexican resort.

BBL

403 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:19:26am
404 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:22:52am

re: #402 Dark_Falcon

That first story may inspire yet more ‘Fast and Furious’ carping, especially since one of the guns that was ‘walked’ was recently used in a shootout at a Mexican resort.

BBL

That’s not the only thing about that shootout that should get more attention.

405 CarolJ  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 11:03:26am

re: #114 Gus

Looks like an ice sculpture, and probably was only good for one when that car thawed out-ice in every seam and joint makes the thing undriveable.

GG is just flailing about now. The world has moved on from him, and Snowden is probably reaching the end of his promised asylum with no where to go.

406 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 11:16:46am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

Lawyers usually don’t want other lawyers on a jury anyway. When I was a paralegal, I was excused—they don’t want anyone who works in the legal field who might have some understanding of law and who work with it every day—they seeing it as “tainting” the jury.

Most attorneys in Miami, just call the clerk and get removed from jury panels.

My friend who is the rainmaker for his firm, is a genuine nice guy. He, was curious what the procedure looked like from the jury side, and decided to appear in person.

The only jury I didn’t get excused from appearing while working for law firms was a federal grand jury.

407 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 7, 2014 5:59:20pm

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mr. Plow!


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