Bridgeghazi: Christie Says He Was Misled, Didn’t Know, Unacceptable

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The latest moves in the burgeoning Bridgeghazi scandal are pretty predictable, as Gov. Chris Christie responds in classic politician’s fashion by blaming someone else.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) has acknowledged that the New Jersey bridge closing scandal has reached his office.

In a statement issued Wednesday afternoon, Christie responded to the revelation that one of his close aides discussed plans to close lanes on the George Washington Bridge last year.

“What I’ve seen today for the first time is unacceptable,” Christie said. “I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge.”

Mmkay. We shall see. Meanwhile, Christie’s (former?) pal David Wildstein is trying to get his subpoena quashed. And we all know how painful that can be.

David Wildstein, the former Port Authority of New York and New Jersey executive at the center of New Jersey bridge scandal, does not want to testify before state lawmakers on Thursday. And he’s going to court to avoid it.

Wildstein filed a lawsuit in state court on Wednesday in an attempt to quash the legislature’s subpoena of his testimony, according to The Bergen Record.

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177 comments
1 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:44:18pm

Reposted from the previous thread:

re: #196 thedopefishlives

Yeah, he seems to be stuck in a lose-lose situation here. If he disavows all knowledge, he looks incompetent; if he admits he knew about it, he torpedoes any plausible deniability and opens himself to liability.

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:44:55pm

The RW reactions to this should be interesting.

3 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:45:09pm

I LOVE THIS GUY! I LOVE HIM!

4 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:45:59pm

(cue the music) “Woke up this morning, got yourself a gun…”

5 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:46:05pm
6 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:46:06pm

re: #3 Kragar

I LOVE THIS GUY! I LOVE HIM!

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He has GOT to start using the term “Bridgeghazi” soon. It fits in perfectly with his obsession with Hillary.

7 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:46:44pm

More trouble for NJ. Hope no one closes any bridges…

Mile-Long Ice Jam on Delaware River Prompts Flash Flooding Concerns

nbcphiladelphia.com

8 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:46:51pm
9 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:48:02pm

Dear Mr. Christie, let me fix that for you:

What I’ve seen today for the first time is unacceptable. I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge these idiots used email .

10 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:48:15pm
11 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:48:33pm
12 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:48:59pm

re: #10 Kragar

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13 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:49:22pm
14 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:49:50pm

re: #13 Kragar

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He doesn’t understand. Wingnut tears are the secret ingredient behind our grilled gamey troll buttocks.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:50:40pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Wow. I wonder what he thinks IS a big deal? Obamacare?

16 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:51:53pm

re: #13 Kragar

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“That’s”

17 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:52:06pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow. I wonder what he thinks IS a big deal? Obamacare?

It wasn’t that big a deal when the media thought the whole thing began and ended at the Port Authority, where he wanted them to think it began and ended. Now? Now it’s a big deal, so big in fact that he’s saddened and outraged…but not enough to fire anybody over it.

18 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:53:29pm

re: #16 Gus

“That’s”

I’ll let you correct him. I’m basking in the the glow of victory.

19 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:53:48pm

Am I to understand that Christie couldn’t ascertain the situation internally after being asked about it by the press, even given multiple weeks to poke around and have his IT staff do some email digging?

Come on, nobody is that incompetent.

20 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:54:35pm
21 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:55:08pm

re: #19 erik_t

Am I to understand that Christie couldn’t ascertain the situation internally after being asked about it by the press, even given multiple weeks to poke around and have his IT staff do some email digging?

Come on, nobody is that incompetent.

Reagan slept through just about his entire second term in this mode. IOKIYAR strikes again.

22 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:55:19pm

re: #3 Kragar

He’s got a great mustache.

23 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:56:03pm

re: #19 erik_t

Am I to understand that Christie couldn’t ascertain the situation internally after being asked about it by the press, even given multiple weeks to poke around and have his IT staff do some email digging?

Come on, nobody is that incompetent.

His choice now is between looking incompetent and looking complicit. He seems to have gone for the incompetent defense.

24 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:56:14pm

re: #14 thedopefishlives

He doesn’t understand. Wingnut tears are the secret ingredient behind our grilled gamey troll buttocks.

re: #14 thedopefishlives

He doesn’t understand. Wingnut tears are the secret ingredient behind our grilled gamey troll buttocks.

25 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:56:45pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

His choice now is between looking incompetent and looking complicit. He seems to have gone for the incompetent defense.

This is good news for Rick Perry.

26 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:57:06pm

re: #3 Kragar

I LOVE THIS GUY! I LOVE HIM!

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I’d like to know the 4-5 non-Christie GOPers this loon thinks could win in 2016. This list is sure to be clinically interesting.

27 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:57:25pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

His choice now is between looking incompetent and looking complicit. He seems to have gone for the incompetent defense.

Which puts him in exactly the same position as everyone else in the GOP.

28 ericblair  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:57:56pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

His choice now is between looking incompetent and looking complicit. He seems to have gone for the incompetent defense.

He should just go for incontinent. Might be enough of a distraction to work.

29 teresa  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:58:05pm

I don’t know about you, but I am pretty damn sure that Chris Christie is lying. His buds will cover for him, but I’m pretty sure he is lying.
I certainly hope this negatively impacts his run in 2016.

30 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:59:04pm

re: #29 teresa

I don’t know about you, but I am pretty damn sure that Chris Christie is lying. His buds will cover for him, but I’m pretty sure he is lying.
I certainly hope this negatively impacts his run in 2016.

Meant literally: what run in 2016?

31 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:59:19pm

re: #29 teresa

I don’t know about you, but I am pretty damn sure that Chris Christie is lying. His buds will cover for him, but I’m pretty sure he is lying.
I certainly hope this negatively impacts his run in 2016.

It will, if nothing else, raise a lot of questions as to just what kind of people he will surround himself with if elected.

32 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:00:29pm
33 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:00:32pm

Christie’s in big to Johnny Sac. He dipped his beak in Jersey with those no show jobs behind Tony’s back.

34 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:01:34pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

It will, if nothing else, raise a lot of questions as to just what kind of people he will surround himself with if elected.

I don’t think there are any more Corleones that are still alive. Maybe Anthony, but he went into opera.

35 Just never mind.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:01:38pm

re: #32 darthstar

Happy to be in the LOL area!

36 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:03:05pm

Is Christie’s nose getting longer, or is it just me?

N.J. Governor Christie says misled by staff in bridge scandal

reuters.com

37 teresa  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:03:23pm

re: #30 erik_t

The 2016 presidential run, he is gunning for it.

38 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:03:44pm

re: #32 darthstar

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39 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:04:49pm

re: #37 teresa

The 2016 presidential run, he is gunning for it.

He was gunning for it.

People don’t like to lose. He already faced nasty primary battles. He’s not a complete Perry-grade idiot. I don’t think he’ll bother, at least not with anything more than a tentative dip-the-toes exploratory campaign. We might see him in 2020.

40 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:05:49pm

re: #13 Kragar

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Sorry but Max Twain’s avatar IS the awesome.

41 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:06:29pm

re: #33 Amory Blaine
“I hear Ginny Sack is having a 90-pound mole taken off her ass.”

42 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:06:56pm

re: #39 erik_t

He was gunning for it.

I respectfully disagree. The GOP is full of corrupt whackadoodles. I think Christie has every bit as much a shot as any other loon the GOP could put forward, even with Bridgeghazi hanging around his neck. After all, it’s that sort of stupidity that the right wing absolutely adores.

43 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:07:22pm

re: #4 Kid A

Cue the music:

You woke up this morning
All those lanes had gone,
Your Papa never told you
About right and wrong.

You woke up this morning
Got a blue moon in your eyes
You woke up this morning
Got a blue moon in your eyes

44 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:07:23pm

Where’d you hear that, from Ralphy’s crew?

45 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:08:33pm

[paulie walnuts] We shut down those lanes boss. [/paulie walnuts]

46 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:09:43pm
47 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:10:32pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

I respectfully disagree. The GOP is full of corrupt whackadoodles. I think Christie has every bit as much a shot as any other loon the GOP could put forward, even with Bridgeghazi hanging around his neck. After all, it’s that sort of stupidity that the right wing absolutely adores.

Christie only ever had as a possible path a unification of what passes for moderate GOP primary voters. He could blow the fucking bridge up entirely and it still wouldn’t make him more than tepidly palatable to the truly far right. He’s got too many examples of being vaguely sane and rational. Those won’t go away; he has a much tougher path than Romney did.

48 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:13:27pm

re: #45 b.d.

[paulie walnuts] We shut down those lanes boss. [/paulie walnuts]

Youtube Video

NSFW

49 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:14:35pm

The Sopranos - F*ck Version

Youtube Video

50 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:16:44pm

re: #28 ericblair

He should just go for incontinent. Might be enough of a distraction to work.

well, he is definitely a pisser

51 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:17:27pm

Why yes, yes his nose is getting longer…

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52 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:17:42pm

re: #47 erik_t

Christie only ever had as a possible path a unification of what passes for moderate GOP primary voters. He could blow the fucking bridge up entirely and it still wouldn’t make him more than tepidly palatable to the truly far right. He’s got too many examples of being vaguely sane and rational. Those won’t go away; he has a much tougher path than Romney did.

i took at look at the freepers reaction and they’re all ‘fuck that RINO anyway’

53 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:19:36pm

imagine - christie shakes obama’s hand once, and the entire right wing disowns him forever

54 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:20:03pm

Just saying…

55 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:22:15pm

WAR ON POVERTY
50 years later, no victory
in sight for LBJ’s vision

clearly we have not won the war on poverty since we haven’t killed enough poor people to get them to surrender yet

56 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:22:24pm

re: #53 dog philosopher

imagine - christie shakes obama’s hand once, and the entire right wing disowns him forever

Like The Day The Rat Pack Died - when Sammy Davis Jr. hugged Nixon.

57 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:22:45pm

All that time he put in getting his card punched will be for nothing.

58 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:22:57pm

Ha!

David Corn - “We’re waiting for the John Dean of Trenton to show up”

59 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:23:17pm
60 AntonSirius  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:23:19pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

His choice now is between looking incompetent and looking complicit. He seems to have gone for the incompetent defense.

Well, no. His choice was between admitting he was complicit, or lying about being complicit and looking incompetent.

In what should be a shock to no one, his ego chose to brazen it out and pick door #2. Once the truth comes out he is toast as a national political figure.

61 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:24:03pm

re: #55 dog philosopher

WAR ON POVERTY
50 years later, no victory
in sight for LBJ’s vision

clearly we have not won the war on poverty since we haven’t killed enough poor people to get them to surrender yet

WE TRIED BEING NICE TO ‘EM, AND THEY’RE STILL POOR. LET’S TAKE AWAY THEIR FOOD AND SHELTER AND HEALTHCARE, AND CUT THEIR WAGES! THEN THEY’LL STOP BEING POOR!!!!

62 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:24:13pm

Hasta luego, everyone. It’s time for dinner and a movie.

I do hereby endorse Christie’s selection of my meal and film… I would like this to go smoothly.

63 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:24:43pm

re: #59 Lidane

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Turns out he did something they like - fucking up a bunch of Blue Staters.

64 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:25:08pm

Christie’s now going to throw Kelly and perhaps Samson under the bus to maintain credibility.

At least that’s what he should do. Fire them.

What will he do? Probably get them to resign. It’s semantics with a twist.

The people who are trying to claim that this is much ado about nothing seem to ignore a couple of very important details.

This isn’t just any bridge or any road.

It’s the most heavily traveled bridge in the US and handles more than 50 million vehicles Eastbound annually (similar amount Westbound, but not tolled).

It’s a multi-billion dollar piece of infrastructure where any lane closure is big news and affects millions of commuters and truckers throughout the NYC metro region - from Boston to DC. Any kind of backup or delay can have serious ramifications.

The action by Christie’s people led to massive public safety hazards for Fort Lee. Four EMS calls were significantly delayed, with one woman dying. Yeah, that’s pretty significant for a political vendetta.

It goes to Christie’s judgment about the people who work for him. If he doesn’t fire them, then his statement today is meaningless.

And as kirkspencer, justaminute and I had noted down below, Wildstein’s efforts to quash the subpoena should go nowhere because the legislature has every right and power to bring him before the legislature to answer for his actions.

65 zora  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:25:48pm

re: #52 dog philosopher

similar sentiment on hot air.

66 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:26:31pm

S.E. Cupp: Chris Christie can resign and win the presidency

Cupp said, resigning would allow the issue to “be done” by the time it was time to start that campaign.

“He’ll say, ‘What do you want from me? I resigned. I did what’s best for New Jersey. I made a mistake, I took responsibility for it, and now I want to be your president,’” Cupp argued.

67 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:26:50pm

re: #64 lawhawk

It’s not just any bridge or any road; it’s a bridge too far.

*ducks*

68 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:26:57pm

Christzilla throws buses at people.

69 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:27:12pm

re: #66 Kragar

S.E. Cupp: Chris Christie can resign and win the presidency

That woman is dumb as a post.

70 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:28:04pm

re: #69 GeneJockey

That woman is dumb as a post.

Yup.

71 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:28:29pm

re: #66 Kragar

S.E. Cupp: Chris Christie can resign and win the presidency

Alternatively,

“You fucked up! You trusted us me.”

72 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:28:41pm

re: #67 thedopefishlives

It’s not just any bridge or any road; it’s a bridge too far.

*ducks*

Roads? Where we’re going… we don’t need roads! /

73 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:29:09pm

re: #61 GeneJockey

WE TRIED BEING NICE TO ‘EM, AND THEY’RE STILL POOR. LET’S TAKE AWAY THEIR FOOD AND SHELTER AND HEALTHCARE, AND CUT THEIR WAGES! >THEN THEY’LL STOP BEING POOR!!!!

Or at least we’ll be able to buy their votes real cheap. /

74 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:30:48pm
75 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:30:51pm

re: #66 Kragar

S E Cupp is an idiot.

That worked well for Palin, didn’t it?

76 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:33:00pm
77 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:33:13pm

re: #11 darthstar

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In which universe? His presidential aspirations are dead on arrival. Perhaps he’ll get a job on Fox News after he’s forced to resign in disgrace. First casualty of the Republican Clown Car.

78 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:34:49pm

re: #64 lawhawk

I don’t know how important this is, but the fact this idiocy was communicated through private e-mail services speaks volumes about the guilt of those involved.

The absolute arrogance is astounding: “Not only are we going to fuck up Fort Lee’s traffic as payback, we’ll write about it through Gmail. No way anyone will ever see these e-mails!”

79 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:35:56pm

re: #69 GeneJockey

That woman is dumb as a post.

*cough, cough*

S.E. Cupp Writes Stupidest Possible Column On Pot

80 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:36:27pm

re: #76 darthstar

Ron Jeremy’s guest house?

81 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:36:31pm

re: #78 Mattand

I don’t know how important this is, but the fact this idiocy was communicated through private e-mail services speaks volumes about the guilt of those involved.

The absolute arrogance is astounding: “Not only are we going to fuck up Fort Lee’s traffic as payback, we’ll write about it through Gmail. No way anyone will ever see these e-mails!”

I think one acct was with Yahoo.

Yahoo. Think about it.

82 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:36:40pm

re: #66 Kragar

S.E. Cupp: Chris Christie can resign and win the presidency

Sadly, she may be right. It would be the ultimate Deny And Reverse Victim Order maneuver.

83 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:37:57pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Jeremy’s guest house?

Excellent actor. Loved his movies.

84 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:38:08pm

re: #81 Justanotherhuman

I think one acct was with Yahoo.

Yahoo. Think about it.

LOL!

Yahoo mail: when Gmail is too snobby, but you’re still embarrassed to be seen with Hotmail in public.

85 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:39:06pm
86 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:39:19pm

re: #78 Mattand

It would seem to go to the fact that those involved knew that this couldn’t or shouldn’t go through official channels because everything would be logged, recorded and maintained under public records requirements.

They thought they’d avoid the scrutiny by using private email accounts.

They ignore that as public officials that subpoenas and FOIAs would enable access to private emails, phone logs, texts, and claw back who spoke to whom, what was said, who else was in the loop, and whether anyone involved tried to cover their tracks further with deletions.

87 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:39:30pm

I just can’t see Christie getting the GOP nod. The Tea Party type hate him with a passion, and they are going to be active in the primaries. Main Stream Moderate GOPers are going to watch him blow up the first time he gets challenged, won’t be attracted.

I think both parties are going to have interesting primary seasons.

RBS

88 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:39:45pm

re: #81 Justanotherhuman

I think one acct was with Yahoo.

Yahoo. Think about it.


Even Yahoo employees want nothing to do with Yahoo mail

89 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:40:10pm

Night Lizards. B5 marathon.

90 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:42:01pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

B5 marathon where?

91 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:42:52pm

re: #3 Kragar

If you go to that NRO article about Bridgeghazi that DF linked to in the last thread, your bud Max posted there. They think he’s a progressive liberal doing a poor imitation of a conservative.

I was going to point out that maybe, just MAYBE, they were in denial about the shithole that conservatism in general has tumbled into. But then I was like, “You know what? You guys deserve each other.”

92 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:43:11pm

re: #55 dog philosopher

WAR ON POVERTY
50 years later, no victory
in sight for LBJ’s vision

clearly we have not won the war on poverty since we haven’t killed enough poor people to get them to surrender yet

How many poor would there be without LBj’s policies?

93 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:43:46pm
94 zora  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:44:55pm
“Don’t call me, but call the families who were waiting three, four times longer for emergency service agencies when their loved ones were having heart palpitations or extreme chest pains and were waiting for our ambulance corps to arrive,” he said. “Who would plausibly reduce themselves to closing lanes to the busiest bridge in the world?”

In addition to the lane closures that crippled Fort Lee, Sokolich was himself personally attacked by members of Christie’s team. Port Authority official David Wildstein apparently referred to Sokolich as “this little Serbian” when emailing Christie two-time campaign manager Bill Stepien.

“I’m Croatian, Wolf,” Sokolich clarified to CNN

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Read more: politico.com

95 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:45:15pm

The Florida Republican says in a speech Wednesday that money from the federal government to address poverty should be shifted to the states and Congress should reform the tax code to give people in low-wage jobs an incentive to stay in the workforce and not collect unemployment insurance

is he going to re-invent the paycheck?

96 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:45:44pm

Red, White & Black beans with sausage and rice coming up. Chill with the lizards and watch “The Magnificent Seven” tonight.

Life Ain’t Bad.

RBS

97 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:51:42pm

re: #95 dog philosopher

The Florida Republican says in a speech Wednesday that money from the federal government to address poverty should be shifted to the states and Congress should reform the tax code to give people in low-wage jobs an incentive to stay in the workforce and not collect unemployment insurance

is he going to re-invent the paycheck?

Yeah. We really need these reactionary confederate assholes in Alabama to control the lunchpails of our poor.

98 Dave In Austin  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:52:55pm

Costco sells Chicken Noodle Soup made from the rotisserie chickens they don’t sell. Big tub for $10. Man is it good!!

99 compound_Idaho  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:54:50pm

re: #95 dog philosopher

The Florida Republican says in a speech Wednesday that money from the federal government to address poverty should be shifted to the states and Congress should reform the tax code to give people in low-wage jobs an incentive to stay in the workforce and not collect unemployment insurance

is he going to re-invent the paycheck?

We already have that. It’s called the earned income tax credit.

100 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:57:16pm

re: #99 compound_Idaho

We already have that. It’s called the earned income tax credit.

Rubio wants it gone ‘consolidated’.

blogs.wsj.com

101 Just never mind.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:58:52pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Costco sells Chicken Noodle Soup made from the rotisserie chickens they don’t sell. Big tub for $10. Man is it good!!

Now, to introduce you to the chicken pasta salad…

102 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:59:36pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Costco sells Chicken Noodle Soup made from the rotisserie chickens they don’t sell. Big tub for $10. Man is it good!!

That WOULD be good. I wish we had a Costco here.

RBS

103 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:59:56pm

found on the fox news page

Cheyenne police say a 22-year-old woman was accidentally shot at a Lowe’s store when a handgun of another customer fell out of its holster.

KGWN-TV reports that the woman was shot in the arm Thursday afternoon and taken to the hospital.

The customer who had the gun was a 58-year-old woman. Neither woman has been identified.

104 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:00:41pm

re: #66 Kragar

S.E. Cupp: Chris Christie can resign and win the presidency

How did she ever get to be a political talking head? I have never understood it. Can anyone help me figure it out?

Of course, I temper that knowing there are many a fool acting like political talking heads. And, hell we have the Palin types that act like they are politicians. Fakes…all of ‘em.

105 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:05:04pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

I recall a saying from the car biz. “There is an ass for every seat” I think we have a 24 hour news/internet/twitter cycle analog.

Maybe…

“There is an audience for every ass.”

106 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:09:18pm

re: #103 dog philosopher

found on the fox news page

Cheyenne police say a 22-year-old woman was accidentally shot at a Lowe’s store when a handgun of another customer fell out of its holster.

KGWN-TV reports that the woman was shot in the arm Thursday afternoon and taken to the hospital.

The customer who had the gun was a 58-year-old woman. Neither woman has been identified.

Who can be so freakn’ paranoid they need a gun at Lowe’s, in the afternoon?

107 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:11:44pm

Oh my. This GW bridge thing is really big. There is even a banner on the NJTV website listing it as “breaking news.” njtvonline.org

108 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:15:29pm
109 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:15:57pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

Oh my. This GW bridge thing is really big. There is even a banner on the NJTV website listing it as “breaking news.” njtvonline.org

It was the lead story on the NBC Nightly News

110 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:16:08pm

For those who missed Orphan Black last year, BBC america is re running season one starting next Sunday, 2 episodes per day
bbcamerica.com

111 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:17:11pm

Obama edges closer to decisions on intelligence reforms

reuters.com

“Obama, who could announce his intelligence reforms in a speech as early as next week, is acting in an attempt to restore Americans’ confidence in U.S. intelligence services after damaging disclosures from former spy contractor Edward Snowden about the sweep of surveillance practices.

“Obama reviewed the progress of the administration’s review in a meeting with James Clapper, the director of U.S. intelligence, and Keith Alexander, the National Security Agency director, as well as Attorney General Eric Holder and Vice President Joe Biden.

“This was an important chance for the president to hear directly from his team as he begins to make final decisions about how we move forward with key intelligence collection programs,” said Caitlin Hayden, spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council.”

Two things the dudebros won’t like at all: Who Pres Obama has already met with, and Reuters calling Snowden a “former spy contractor”.

The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a bipartisan independent panel, says its findings won’t be ready until as late as early Feb, too late to be considered in Pres Obama’s reform plans.

112 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:19:05pm

Super nifty new feature tonight - it’s now easier than ever to upload images. Just drag and drop them on the “Upload Image” button. No more messing around with that dreaded file selector thingie. Just drag it and drop it, baby.

113 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:20:20pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Thank you Charles for improving your website. :)

114 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:22:05pm

Why do small business people really get pissed at silly regulations? Usually it closes out market opportunities or adds severe costs. If you guys will forgive a little “inside baseball”.

Small biz in this case is US makers of white gold jewelry. Nickel is the metal to change the color. The EU passed some regulations limiting the nickel emission onto the skin from white gold rings etc, and a stricter rule for ear posts and body piercing jewelry. That’s because some people are allergic to nickel and can get a rash, sometimes severe. So far so good. With some effort the trade worked up alloys that comply. Since 2011 the magic number for compliance was cut more than 80%. Now it’s really hard to comply. It almost makes white gold impractical.

What gets me is the EU is perfectly content to allow the sales of foods with nut content or shellfish content. Those allergies are sometimes fatal. of course they have labeling rules for safety, and that’s great, glad to see that.

But why is labeling not enough for jewelry and the risk of a rash? BTW the EU is a ripe territory for US makers of jewelry. It’s the kind of market that recoveries build upon.

Okay trying the new feature

It works!

115 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:26:54pm

re: #87 RealityBasedSteve

I just can’t see Christie getting the GOP nod. The Tea Party type hate him with a passion, and they are going to be active in the primaries. Main Stream Moderate GOPers are going to watch him blow up the first time he gets challenged, won’t be attracted.

I think both parties are going to have interesting primary seasons.

RBS

If Hilary Clinton runs, no one is going to challenge her. Democrats want to keep the White House and a contentious primary would be foolish. The Republican primary is going to be fun.

116 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:26:57pm

re: #110 Randall Gross

For those who missed Orphan Black last year, BBC america is re running season one starting next Sunday, 2 episodes per day
bbcamerica.com

Justified, Orphan Black, Helix…. my DVR is gonna burst. I better get that external drive feature up and running.

117 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:28:38pm

re: #114 Political Atheist

Why do small business people really get pissed at silly regulations? Usually it closes out market opportunities or adds severe costs. If you guys will forgive a little “inside baseball”.

Small biz in this case is US makers of white gold jewelry. Nickel is the metal to change the color. The EU passed some regulations limiting the nickel emission onto the skin from white gold rings etc, and a stricter rule for ear posts and body piercing jewelry. That’s because some people are allergic to nickel and can get a rash, sometimes severe. So far so good. With some effort the trade worked up alloys that comply. Since 2011 the magic number for compliance was cut more than 80%. Now it’s really hard to comply. It almost makes white gold impractical.

What gets me is the EU is perfectly content to allow the sales of foods with nut content or shellfish content. Those allergies are sometimes fatal. of course they have labeling rules for safety, and that’s great, glad to see that.

But why is labeling not enough for jewelry and the risk of a rash? BTW the EU is a ripe territory for US makers of jewelry. It’s the kind of market that recoveries build upon.

Okay trying the new feature

It works!

Some regulations are silly, some aren’t.

Some regulations are archaic, some are not.

Most regulations are the result of lobbying. Follow the money for silly regulations.

118 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:29:11pm

re: #108 Kragar

Is this a real person? Looks like someone put a moustache on Morning Joe. Thought it was a parody twitter feed.

119 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:30:16pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Super nifty new feature tonight - it’s now easier than ever to upload images. Just drag and drop them on the “Upload Image” button. No more messing around with that dreaded file selector thingie. Just drag it and drop it, baby.

Works perfect. But ya knew that. Nice work. Thanks. And BTW 500k is a generous limit, Few things need be presented any larger than that. I find myself tweaking for that clarity / size sweet spot to get close to the limit but not over.

120 geoffm33  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:30:55pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Super nifty new feature tonight - it’s now easier than ever to upload images. Just drag and drop them on the “Upload Image” button. No more messing around with that dreaded file selector thingie. Just drag it and drop it, baby.

Sounds awesome! Any way to make the whole text edit area a hotspot for dropping the image like in gmail?

121 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:34:09pm

Some of my latest WIP

122 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:34:30pm

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

Is this a real person? Looks like someone put a moustache on Morning Joe. Thought it was a parody twitter feed.

No, this is a true Christie fan.

123 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:34:46pm

For sale. Never used.

124 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:35:07pm

re: #121 Kragar

Some of my latest WIP

[Embedded image][Embedded image][Embedded image]

You have a steady hand.

125 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:36:45pm

re: #124 b_sharp

You have a steady hand.

Not done yet, got a lot of detail and touch up work to go on them.

126 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:38:24pm

Each one of those guys is about 1 inch call, and made up of about dozen pieces each, not counting other modifications.

127 GlutenFreeJesus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:40:55pm

Aren’t bridges socialist anyway? Everyone pays in so everyone else can use them. //

Christie will still be their hero. (to this, I’m not being sarcastic)

128 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:41:43pm

re: #126 Kragar

Each one of those guys is about 1 inch call, and made up of about dozen pieces each, not counting other modifications.

That is freaking amazing. My hat’s off to you and your craftsmanship. I’d never have the patience for that.

RBS

129 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:43:17pm

re: #126 Kragar

Each one of those guys is about 1 inch call, and made up of about dozen pieces each, not counting other modifications.

Hand made pieces?

130 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:43:44pm

re: #128 RealityBasedSteve

That is freaking amazing. My hat’s off to you and your craftsmanship. I’d never have the patience for that.

RBS

I find it very relaxing.

131 allegro  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:44:17pm

re: #114 Political Atheist

But why is labeling not enough for jewelry and the risk of a rash?

Because jewelry is durable and gets sold, handed down, etc and the labeling doesn’t go with it?

Just a thought.

132 GlutenFreeJesus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:44:42pm

re: #103 dog philosopher

found on the fox news page

Cheyenne police say a 22-year-old woman was accidentally shot at a Lowe’s store when a handgun of another customer fell out of its holster.

KGWN-TV reports that the woman was shot in the arm Thursday afternoon and taken to the hospital.

The customer who had the gun was a 58-year-old woman. Neither woman has been identified.

What I want to know is what guns these morons are carrying? Every handgun I own has a firing pin safety. Even if in Condition 1, they won’t fire if dropped.

133 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:45:04pm

re: #130 Kragar

I find it very relaxing.

So, the ultimate LGF fan photo would be of a cat knocking WH40K figures into a fruit pie while sitting on a pizza with pineapple on it?
:D

134 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:45:20pm

re: #129 b_sharp

Hand made pieces?

Kits with various components, but they can be assembled in various poses. Plus, I’ve learned how to modify and sculpt parts on my own over time.

135 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:45:48pm

re: #130 Kragar

I find it very relaxing.

I used to paint ceramic plates. Would just zone out doing it, very very relaxing.

They’re amazing even tho I have no idea what they are for.

136 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:46:16pm

re: #133 Feline Fearless Leader

So, the ultimate LGF fan photo would be of a cat knocking WH40K figures into a fruit pie while sitting on a pizza with pineapple on it?
:D

While playing a guitar.

RBS

137 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:47:16pm

re: #136 RealityBasedSteve

While playing a guitar.

RBS

Sure. And what would the background music of the video be?

138 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:49:03pm

re: #137 Feline Fearless Leader

Sure. And what would the background music of the video be?

Bob Schneider.

139 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:50:46pm

re: #95 dog philosopher

The Florida Republican says in a speech Wednesday that money from the federal government to address poverty should be shifted to the states and Congress should reform the tax code to give people in low-wage jobs an incentive to stay in the workforce and not collect unemployment insurance

is he going to re-invent the paycheck?

WTF? AFAIK, Unemployment Insurance pays a fraction of what your last job paid. Most folks who collect it would DEARLY LOVE to have a job.

140 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:51:06pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

I used to paint ceramic plates. Would just zone out doing it, very very relaxing.

They’re amazing even tho I have no idea what they are for.

They’re for wargaming. I’ve got a few different armies, each in the company size forced, so about 100-150+ infantry models plus support vehicles for each force.

141 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:51:22pm

Cancel the tunnel and close the bridge!

142 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:52:00pm
143 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:56:36pm

Night folks. Off to read for a while and turn in early.

144 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:57:15pm

re: #126 Kragar

Each one of those guys is about 1 inch call, and made up of about dozen pieces each, not counting other modifications.

BFD

///

145 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:57:28pm

re: #143 Feline Fearless Leader

Night folks. Off to read for a while and turn in early.

what are you going to turn into?

146 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:58:04pm

re: #144 GeneJockey

BFD
[Embedded image]
///

Nice.

147 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 5:58:40pm

148 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:00:01pm

re: #146 Kragar

Nice.

Thanks!

Nice work, BTW!

149 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:01:49pm

Freezing fog? Need to be on facebook to see.

facebook.com

150 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:04:02pm

re: #149 darthstar

Freezing fog? Need to be on facebook to see.

facebook.com

What the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch is THAT?!?

151 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:06:58pm

re: #149 darthstar

Freezing fog? Need to be on facebook to see.

facebook.com

Ice shove

I believe that’s from last year.

152 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:09:52pm

Watching The Magnificent Seven. What an awesome cast. Yul Brenner was The Bomb!!!

RBS

153 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:10:03pm

‘Ice tsunamis’ sweep into homes
By Brad Lendon, CNN
updated 6:33 AM EDT, Tue May 14, 2013

Same video clip here.

154 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:16:53pm

Electrolytes

155 ausador  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:17:50pm

It doesn’t matter what Christie does or says, I imagine he would be running on the Mitt Romney platform laid out for him in the last election.

That platform says that you can say anything you want to whoever is listening to you at the time. If people complain about it later you have an aide “retract” your previous statement but don’t ever correct it or apologize for it yourself.

That way you can lie and lie and lie and appear to everything to everyone simultaneously. Even though some of the media will eventually find the guts to call you a liar you will still take home at least 47% of the vote at the end of election day (even if you are a Mormon and have no/negligible charisma, Christie can probably do better).

Welcome to the idiocracy. :(

156 ausador  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:21:00pm

re: #152 RealityBasedSteve

Watching The Magnificent Seven. What an awesome cast. Yul Brenner was The Bomb!!!

[Embedded image]

RBS

If your in the mood for nostalgia then watch “The Sting” Newman was in his prime and Redford was still just a “kid.”

Great movie, a true classic, with excellent acting and direction!

157 Just never mind.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:21:10pm

re: #152 RealityBasedSteve

Um no, Steve McQueen was the hottest!

158 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:22:16pm
159 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:22:41pm

re: #157 Just never mind.

Um no, Steve McQueen was the hottest!

Robert Vaughn is the warmest. //

160 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:23:04pm

re: #156 ausador

If your in the mood for nostalgia then watch “The Sting” Newman was in his prime and Redford was still just a “kid.”

Great movie, a true classic, with excellent acting and direction!

Geeze, haven’t seen “The Sting” in years and years. Know what I’m going to be watching next.

THANKS!!!

RBS

161 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:24:49pm

It’s getting so you can’t fuck with the people even when you’re being paid by the.re: #139 GeneJockey

WTF? AFAIK, Unemployment Insurance pays a fraction of what your last job paid. Most folks who collect it would DEARLY LOVE to have a job.

Each state has different rules. New Hampshire, for example, has a maximum weekly benefit rate of $427 per week. To qualify for that amount, you’d have to earn $41,500 per year. Per capita income was somewhat lower than that; if you earned an average amount of $33,000 per year, you’d qualify for $331 weekly in benefits. You’ll get less if you earned less; earning below minimum threshold requirement and you might not get anything at all.

In a factoid that will surprise absolutely no one, Massachusetts offers the highest potential weekly benefit at $653, while Mississippi’s highest weekly benefit is the lowest in the country at $235.

162 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:25:44pm

A Kitten A Cat & A Bag

Youtube Video

163 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:27:07pm

Low water levels on Shasta Lake in Northern California reveal roads, bridges, tunnels long buried.

krcrtv.com

164 Stephen T.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:30:27pm

Rule #1 for staffers. If you are going to do something for your boss that may get you in trouble with the world, and your boss is the one telling you to do it. Get a record of your boss telling you to do it or you will be hung out to dry and blamed for it in the long run. If your boss isn’t the one telling you to do it, don’t do it.

165 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:32:58pm

re: #164 Stephen T.

Rule #1 for staffers. If you are going to do something for your boss that may get you in trouble with the world, and your boss is the one telling you to do it. Get a record of your boss telling you to do it or you will be hung out to dry and blamed for it in the long run. If your boss isn’t the one telling you to do it, don’t do it.

And if your boss is telling you to do it and it’s unethical and could create unnecessary risks to the community, tell boss to get fucked and go find a new boss.

166 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:35:13pm
167 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:37:25pm

re: #165 darthstar

And if your boss is telling you to do it and it’s unethical and could create unnecessary risks to the community, tell boss to get fucked and go find a new boss.

Back when I was giving user briefs, I would tell all people the best rule for using a business computer was picture your mom behind one shoulder and your CO behind the other at all times. If either one would be angry, you shouldn’t be doing it.

Works well for most situations.

168 Stephen T.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:43:39pm

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

What I want to know is what guns these morons are carrying? Every handgun I own has a firing pin safety. Even if in Condition 1, they won’t fire if dropped.

“Accidentally went off when dropped.” Is cover up speak for “Accidentally discharged firearm when she didn’t want to.”

169 psddluva4evah  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 7:49:49pm

Good question from Richard Wolfe on Lawrence, why hasn’t the announcement made that the aide Mrs Bridges had been “put on leave” pending the outcome of investigation or just that she had been fired?

170 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 8:12:04pm

re: #131 allegro

Because jewelry is durable and gets sold, handed down, etc and the labeling doesn’t go with it?

Just a thought.

Good point, the mark would best be a part of the stamp in an item.

171 majii  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 8:19:16pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

They seem to largely be sticking to their old tried and true means of dealing with unpleasant news about one of their own. They’re pretending that it either doesn’t exist, it’s not that important, or they’re saying that the “liberal media” is doing this to help HRC in 2016. They’re doing everything except facing the fact that Christie has surrounded himself with people with very questionable ethics who have no problem abusing their power for political gain/payback.

172 Mich-again  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 9:29:13pm

After hearing about this story I wonder if other Democratic mayors in NJ who did endorse Christie felt some threat real or imagined that if they didn’t endorse him some stupid shit like this might happen in their city.

173 Mich-again  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 9:31:04pm

re: #171 majii

I wonder how long till they pull out this picture to use against the President..

174 Death Panel Truck  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 9:35:46pm

re: #1 thedopefishlives

Christie’s situation is a conundrum known as Reagan’s Bind

175 Mich-again  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 9:39:02pm

re: #174 Death Panel Truck

Or go with Option 3.. blame the media

176 jvic  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 9:56:40pm

1. What did the President Governor know, and when did he know it?

I’m not the first to think of that and I’m pretty sure I won’t be the last.

2. Like the man said, history doesn’t repeat but it rhymes. (Are bell bottoms coming back?)

177 BusyMonster  Thu, Jan 9, 2014 6:04:16am

re: #64 lawhawk

The action by Christie’s people led to massive public safety hazards for Fort Lee. Four EMS calls were significantly delayed, with one woman dying. Yeah, that’s pretty significant for a political vendetta.

It goes to Christie’s judgment about the people who work for him. If he doesn’t fire them, then his statement today is meaningless.

I wanted to re-iterate this significant point you made: people often DIE in bad traffic. This kind of tantrum-throwing isn’t just embarassing and inconvenient: it’s deadly. It goes directly to Christie’s judgment that he even hired toddlers this immature and untrustworthy to begin with, if he’s trying to tell us that he didn’t order this closure himself.

Either way, he’s made it pointedly clear that he is not a responsible adult and cannot be trusted to run anything. I think when we’re done with this asshole, he’ll be lucky to find a job running a fucking deep fryer.


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