Target Breach Bigger: Personal Data on 70, not 40 Million Customers Stolen

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From Target’s Press Release:

Target today announced updates on its continuing investigation into the recent data breach and its expected fourth quarter financial performance.

As part of Target’s ongoing forensic investigation, it has been determined that certain guest information — separate from the payment card data previously disclosed — was taken during the data breach.

This theft is not a new breach, but was uncovered as part of the ongoing investigation. At this time, the investigation has determined that the stolen information includes names, mailing addresses, phone numbers or email addresses for up to 70 million individuals.

Much of this data is partial in nature, but in cases where Target has an email address, the Company will attempt to contact affected guests. This communication will be informational, including tips to guard against consumer scams. Target will not ask those guests to provide any personal information as part of that communication. In addition, guests can find the tips on our website.

“I know that it is frustrating for our guests to learn that this information was taken and we are truly sorry they are having to endure this,” said Gregg Steinhafel, chairman, president and chief executive officer, Target. “I also want our guests to know that understanding and sharing the facts related to this incident is important to me and the entire Target team.”

More: Target Provides Update on Data Breach and Financial Performance

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216 comments
1 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 6:15:30am

When are businesses going to get tired of apologizing to angry, fleeing customers and learn to take important things like security seriously?

2 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:38:21am

But let’s privatize NSA data collection, because the private sector does such a great job of safeguarding sensitive data.

3 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:39:47am

So, Target’s customers are called guests? That’s a little weird.

4 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:42:06am

I guess Target…

…missed the mark.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

5 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:42:18am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

But let’s privatize NSA data collection, because the private sector does such a great job of safeguarding sensitive data.

Game. Set. Match.

6 erik_t  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:42:58am

Sigh.

Should’ve been you, Walmart.

Should’ve been you.

7 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:43:15am

re: #3 Bulworth

So, Target’s customers are called guests? That’s a little weird.

That’s the new thing now at a lot of retailers. They’re not customers anymore, they are “visitors” or “guests” or “clients”.

8 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:43:42am

So, now it could be up to 110M. That’s the latest report, from 70-110M.

nytimes.com

“A company spokeswoman said that there may be overlap between the 40 million people whose payment information was breached in Target’s stores and the 70 million whose information was stolen regardless of whether they shopped. The spokeswoman, Molly Snyder, said the two batches of data were stolen as parts of the same overall theft.

“Fraud experts said the information stolen from Target’s systems quickly flooded the black market. On Dec. 11, shortly after hackers first breached Target, Easy Solutions, a company that tracks fraud, noticed a ten- to twentyfold increase in the number of high-value stolen cards on black market websites, from nearly every bank and credit union.

“The data breach, confirmed less than a week before Christmas, could not have come at a worse time for Target. The holiday season can account for between 20 percent and 40 percent of a retailer’s annual sales, according to industry groups.”

9 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:46:19am

So, it looks like if you ever shopped at Target and used a card, your information was stolen.

This was a huge theft and I’m wondering if it was an inside job, or if the hackers had inside help?

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:47:47am

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

So, it looks like if you ever shopped at Target and used a card, your information was stolen.

This was a huge theft and I’m wondering if it was an inside job, or if the hackers had inside help?

I’d guess the first one.

11 geoffm33  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:50:45am

Posted this in the thread downstairs, funny:

For Hockey fans, and fans of karma in general:

Youtube Video

12 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:50:48am

I know wingnuts have claimed that the Obamacare exchanges are insecure, and I just assumed it was more derp. The last thing the Administration needs is something like this happening to the federal exchange, so I am hoping they are secure; the October flop was bad enough as it is.

13 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:51:53am
14 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:52:29am

Hubby already got new debit card. I haven’t been in a Target since long before xmas.

15 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:52:31am

re: #12 aagcobb

I know wingnuts have claimed that the Obamacare exchanges are insecure, and I just assumed it was more derp. The last thing the Administration needs is something like this happening to the federal exchange, so I am hoping they are secure; the October flop was bad enough as it is.

There have been numerous attempts to hack the site, but no successful intrusions. It’s another bogus controversy drummed up by the right.

16 allegro  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:53:51am

re: #13 FemNaziBitch

Is there anything in them that is more informative than “I take the fifth?”

17 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:55:04am

re: #3 Bulworth

So, Target’s customers are called guests? That’s a little weird.

‘Marks’ seemed a little raw.

18 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:55:15am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

There have been numerous attempts to hack the site, but no successful intrusions. It’s another bogus controversy drummed by the right.

Repeat from downstairs: Issa put up on the Internet excerpts of unredacted security materials in the course of his “inquiry.”

So he may have just made it easier.

19 b.d.  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:55:39am

Target - The date range is still the same though, right?

20 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:56:20am

TARGET VISA included a message in the last monthly statement I received assuring me that if there were any ‘purchases” made to my account that were not mine that they would immediately resolve the issue

21 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:58:04am

re: #16 allegro

Is there anything in them that is more informative than “I take the fifth?”

It is hearing transcipts.

22 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:59:56am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

There have been numerous attempts to hack the site, but no successful intrusions. It’s another bogus controversy drummed by the right.

That’s good to know, thanks!

23 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:59:58am

Was it taunting the gods a bit in naming the stores ‘Target’?

24 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:01:12pm
25 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:01:20pm

re: #16 allegro

It’s got all the emails and subpoenaed evidence that were requested by the NJ Legislature in connection to the lane closures.

There’s also testimony from yesterday’s hearings, including Wildstein’s repeatedly taking the 5th. Lots to go through here.

26 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:01:22pm

re: #6 erik_t

Sigh.

Should’ve been you, Walmart.

Should’ve been you.

Why on earth would you wish that (or any other retailer for that matter)

The pain would be on those consumers with Wal Mart charge cards,, you know ,,, PEOPLE !!!!

27 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:01:31pm

re: #16 allegro

Is there anything in them that is more informative than “I take the fifth?”

i’ll take the augmented fourth

28 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:03:35pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Was it taunting the gods a bit in naming the stores ‘Target’?

Better than it’s old name: Ayr-way

29 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:03:35pm

re: #27 dog philosopher

i’ll take the augmented fourth

I’ll open and pour from a fifth!!

30 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:04:12pm

NJ Senate President doesn’t think much of Maddow’s awesome new theory
NJ Senate President Rejects Maddow’s Alternate Bridge Scandal Theory

“That’s a real conspiracy thing, right?” Sweeney said, after TPM described to him the gist of Maddow’s argument.
….
“That can’t be part of that, that can’t be,” he told TPM, referring to the Supreme Court fight, later adding: “Whoever said that has a very creative imagination.”

31 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:05:02pm

Rut roh.

32 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:05:43pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

NJ Senate President doesn’t think much of Maddow’s awesome new theory
NJ Senate President Rejects Maddow’s Alternate Bridge Scandal Theory

Just proves he’s part of it !!!

/

33 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:06:14pm
34 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:07:39pm

re: #32 sattv4u2

Just proves he’s part of it !!!

/

MBF!

35 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:08:31pm
36 erik_t  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:09:05pm

Thread derailed once again. My lizard-sense tells me so.

Catch y’all later. It’s about to get really stupid in here.

37 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:09:42pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

MBF!

Now I’m really confused!!

A republican governor and a Democrat State Senate president, that’s already BALANCE,,, so would MBF cancel that out,,, or ,, DOUBLE it ????

38 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:10:46pm

re: #36 erik_t

Thread derailed once again. My lizard-sense tells me so.

Catch y’all later. It’s about to get really stupid in here.

Why??

Because I didn’t want to wish this breach on Wal Mart credit card holders!?!?!

39 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:10:51pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

Not surprising that there were lots of media inquiries. Any kind of lane shutdown at NYC metro area bridges or tunnels will get heavy coverage - all the local radio, tv, and newspapers will want to know what’s going on, especially if it’s going to be a prolonged closure.

That Baroni and Wildstein were running interference and not giving any information about this shows that they knew what they were doing was wrong, and were quite possibly trying to figure out a cover for their nonsensical closures.

Still not quite a smoking gun directly leading to Christie, but one that should have resulted in their being fired - not allowed to resign/retire.

40 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:10:51pm

re: #37 sattv4u2

Now I’m really confused!!

A republican governor and a Democrat State Senate president, that’s already BALANCE,,, so would MBF cancel that out,,, or ,, DOUBLE it ????

It’s a double reverse whammy. Bridgegate was an inside job from the outside!

41 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:11:35pm

Fairies aren’t real, dudes. Neither is ‘balance’. It’s a joke.

42 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:11:49pm

re: #35 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

looks like a BEFORE Color By Numbers scene

43 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:12:01pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

NJ Senate President doesn’t think much of Maddow’s awesome new theory
NJ Senate President Rejects Maddow’s Alternate Bridge Scandal Theory

re: #30 Killgore Trout

So the guy who admits he didn’t see the program thinks the theory can’t be right. Great reporting there Lou. Her theory for motive is still far more plausible than payback to a Democratic mayor over some phantom endorsement request that there’s no proof for and that the mayor can’t even specifically remember.

44 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:12:28pm

re: #36 erik_t

Thread derailed once again. My lizard-sense tells me so.

Catch y’all later. It’s about to get really stupid in here.

A pattern is emerging.

45 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:12:35pm
46 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:13:05pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Game. Set. Match.

Some of the LGF people were on that earlier today in the other thread. (The one I was still responding to…sigh…alone…and cold!)

I made mention the dudebros and wingnuts seem to be fine with the news of private corps giving it up, but wildly pissed off they’ll tell you if the the government gets even tracking info.

So, why not just close the NSA, and hire a bunch of hackers, I asked?

Someone pointed out about the love affair of hackers and how they build careers on it.

That reminded me that you might be able to start out at a place like Dell, move up to the CIA and then onto the NSA.

Its a career path that can put you in a great foreign country like China and Russia. Think of the possibilities.

47 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:14:29pm

Fort Lee mayor says port authority blamed him for lane closures.

businessinsider.com

48 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:14:36pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

Some of the LGF people were on that earlier today in the other thread. (The one I was still responding to…sigh…alone…and cold!)

I made mention the dudebros and wingnuts seem to be fine with the news of private corps giving it up, but wildly pissed off they’ll tell you if the the government gets even tracking info.

So, why not just close the NSA, and hire a bunch of hackers, I asked?

Someone pointed out about the love affair of hackers and how they build careers on it.

That reminded me that you might be able to start out at a place like Dell, move up to the CIA and then onto the NSA.

Its a career path that can put you in a great foreign country like China and Russia. Think of the possibilities.

There seem to be some Whacko Religious People who would prefer this country be more like Russia.

49 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:14:47pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

(The one I was still responding to…sigh…alone…and cold!)

Two words

BREATH
MINTS

50 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:15:39pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

So the guy who admits he didn’t see the program thinks the theory can’t be right. Great reporting there Lou. Her theory for motive is still far more plausible than payback to a Democratic mayor over some phantom endorsement request that there’s no proof for and that the mayor can’t even specifically remember.

I haven’t voiced an opinion on her theory one way of the other but I don’t consider her a reliable source of news. The Dem president of the NJ senate (who might know a thing or two about a thing or two) doesn’t seem to think much of her theory. We’ll see when we have more facts.

51 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:16:11pm

re: #14 FemNaziBitch

Hubby already got new debit card. I haven’t been in a Target since long before xmas.

I wonder how much it has and now will further hurt their business? I doubt any info on that will be out soon.

52 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:17:15pm
53 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:18:31pm

re: #20 sattv4u2

TARGET VISA included a message in the last monthly statement I received assuring me that if there were any ‘purchases” made to my account that were not mine that they would immediately resolve the issue

Oh? Believe me. You will pay. All of us will pay.

54 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:18:58pm

There’s a math error in that headline above - TIME added a correction:

Therefore we can estimate that commuters spend 320,850 hours going from New Jersey to New York over the bridge during a normal four-day stretch. If we assume the traffic jam doubled that time, the total cost of the jam would be $7 million. If we assume that it quadrupled commuters time on the road it could have cost as much as $21 million!

Correction: An ealier version of this post mistakenly used the total number of minutes traveled each day across the bridge rather than hours, overestimating the cost by a factor of 60. Thanks to reader Gary Goetz for pointing out the mistake!

55 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:20:06pm

re: #51 ObserverArt

I wonder how much it has and now will further hurt their business? I doubt any info on that will be out soon.

TJX/ Marshalls had a similar breach back in 2007

The company incurred costs of more than $250 million as a result of the security breach, which went toward covering lawsuits, investigations and improvements to its tech infrastructure. Although a significant amount of money, it’s still a drop in the bucket compared to TJX’s $18.6 billion in sales in the 2007 fiscal year, an increase of 7% from the previous year. The company’s revenue has continued to grow since then and topped $25 billion in 2012.

56 Mattand  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:20:32pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

I haven’t voiced an opinion on her theory one way of the other but I don’t consider her a reliable source of news. The Dem president of the NJ senate (who might know a thing or two about a thing or two) doesn’t seem to think much of her theory. We’ll see when we have more facts.

And if those facts support Maddow’s story last night, you’ll be more than happy to admit she’s correct, right?

57 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:21:43pm

re: #27 dog philosopher

i’ll take the augmented fourth

Does that require lifting a pinkie? I hate to have to lift and replace a pinkie!

/// Looking for other positions. Guitar Kama Sutra.

58 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:22:07pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

If we assume that it quadrupled commuters time on the road it could have cost as much as $21 million!

watching the republican establishment squirm : priceless

59 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:22:46pm

re: #51 ObserverArt

re: #55 sattv4u2

Robert Siciliano, an identity theft analyst, expects that Target may go through a similar ordeal. His estimate, albeit a very general one, is that Target will incur costs “in excess of” $100 million to cover legal costs, possible fines, improved security measures and dealings with major credit card companies that may push for reimbursements. Just like with TJX, though, that would represent a drop in the bucket: Target reported sales of $73 billion in 2012.

60 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:23:35pm
61 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:24:18pm

Polio Vaccination Effort in Syria Appears to Have Some Effect

Despite the collapse of Syria’s once-vaunted public health system and frustration by international aid groups over the lack of access to parts of the country, Dr. Aylward said that with regard to polio, a crippling scourge that mainly attacks young children, “everybody wants it stopped — the government, the opposition.”

More unintended consequences of war.

62 Joanne  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:24:52pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

There seem to be some Whacko Religious People who would prefer this country be more like Russia.

And China.

63 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:25:03pm

Message from an admirer in Dallas, Texas:

Charles Johnson doesn’t think that that Americans being murdered at Benghazi was a very big deal, yet he thinks a goddamn bridge being closed IS EPIC.

Ironically, or not, even though Charles thinks Benghazi wasn’t a scandal, he uses the last two syllables -‘ghazi- as a suffix for something he thinks IS a scandal.

No wonder so many people believe that Charles Johnson is a drunken faggot psycho.

64 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:25:34pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

MBF!

See, you sharpened the axe…ground it to a point you did.

65 makeitstop  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:25:39pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Message from an admirer in Dallas, Texas:

He seems nice.

66 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:26:08pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson


True or false accusation-?

In the case of HealthCare.gov, the real risk is likely to be in how it relays data back and forth between the various third-party websites it’s linked to (e.g., IRS, Veterans Affairs, etc.) and how well it encrypts those communications.
What You Can Do: There’s nothing you can do to protect your data on the website.

huffingtonpost.com

67 b.d.  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:27:06pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Message from an admirer in Dallas, Texas:

Charles is not drunk!!!!!

//

68 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:27:18pm

re: #66 Political Atheist

What You Can Do: There’s nothing you can do to protect your data on the website.

See,,,, Thats why we can’t have nice things!
/

69 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:27:21pm
70 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:28:20pm
71 b.d.  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:28:32pm

re: #65 makeitstop

He seems nice.

No such thing as bad publicity.

72 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:28:43pm

re: #66 Political Atheist

True or false accusation-?

huffingtonpost.com

What a generic article. Yes, all the things listed there are security issues for every site on the web. There’s nothing unusually vulnerable about healthcare.gov.

73 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:29:17pm

re: #56 Mattand

And if those facts support Maddow’s story last night, you’ll be more than happy to admit she’s correct, right?

Sure, not a problem.

74 piratedan  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:29:40pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

What a generic article. Yes, all the things listed there are security issues for every site on the web. There’s nothing unusually vulnerable about healthcare.gov.

headline probably ghost written by Glenn Greenwald

75 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:32:52pm

re: #55 sattv4u2

TJX/ Marshalls had a similar breach back in 2007

The company incurred costs of more than $250 million as a result of the security breach, which went toward covering lawsuits, investigations and improvements to its tech infrastructure. Although a significant amount of money, it’s still a drop in the bucket compared to TJX’s $18.6 billion in sales in the 2007 fiscal year, an increase of 7% from the previous year. The company’s revenue has continued to grow since then and topped $25 billion in 2012.

Interesting. Maybe TJX/Marshalls customers are gluttons for punishment. Or, there are less and less places to shop, so you have to go where you can. But still interesting in that there wasn’t even a drop that year.

76 abolitionist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:33:17pm

I was more than a little disturbed last Nov on finding that a popular port-scanning vulnerability test (ShieldsUP at grc.com) was indicating about 800 open ports (out of 1056 ports tested) for my IP address.

The results were more or less repeatable over a period of about 2 weeks. Yet some other vuln-testing sites such as PCFlank indicated no serious issues.

Even one open port detection is cause for concern (unless you know you are running service fs that must accept incoming connections, and you clearly understand what’s happening). Several hundred is utterly crazy.

For last few weeks, my ShieldsUP results have been back to normal (for me) — 100% stealth.

77 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:33:27pm

It’s be interesting to see where that instruction came from.

Fort Lee, N.J. Mayor Mark Sokolich (D) wrote a letter to a top Port Authority official on Sept. 12 complaining that the agency’s police officers were telling commuters it was the mayor’s fault that lanes were closed on the George Washington Bridge, causing massive traffic jams.

businessinsider.com

78 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:35:58pm

re: #77 jaunte

Maybe the Mayor ordered the code red traffic study.

/

79 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:36:00pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

That’s half my point. Healthcare.gov has all the vulnerabilities other “secure” sites have. What is different is it’s appeal as a target, no pun intended. The “yes it is”, “no it’s not secure” argument is silly. Rhetorical. The facts are technical and glaring. If the pentagon and BofA can be hacked so can healthcare.gov. And all those points of access only sharpen the point.

IMO-That launch was not a confidence builder. Unless a wholly different team was on the security task than the development team, hacking it and exposing data is a matter of time.

80 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:36:31pm

re: #78 Bulworth

Fifths be taken.

81 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:37:02pm

I received a letter from my credit union saying they had been made aware that my debit card was among the ones leaked in the Target mess. They proactively decided to issue me a new card with a new number, even though no actual fraud has occurred [yet].

They also gave me a new account number and did some other reassuring voodoo after my rent check was stolen from my apartment’s leasing office. Whole thing took about 30 minutes.

Contrast this with Compass/BBVA, who went out of their way to avoid doing anything whatsoever after some actual fraud *did* take place involving my debit card with them. Not only did they take about a month to do a chargeback and reimburse my account, they also refused to do anything like change my account number or issue a new debit card, even though my account was obviously compromised in some way. I was expected to just watch for weird transactions, and if I got cleaned out, they’d “address it” with what I only assume would have been their customary alacrity and deep, abiding concern.

82 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:38:09pm

#ReplaceAMovieTitleWithBeard

Something Bearded This Way Comes

83 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:38:29pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Message from an admirer in Dallas, Texas:

Man Charles…you got some mean powers.

Got that amp all the way up to 12! Impressive.

84 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:38:30pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Interesting. Maybe TJX/Marshalls customers gluttons for punishment. Or, there are less and less places to shop, so you have to go where you can. But still interesting in that there wasn’t even a drop that year.

Wifey has TJX/ Marshalls card. iirc, it’s a MasterCard so wherever she uses it she accumulates points for discounts AT TJX or Marshalls

Same with our Target VISA. We can use it anywhere a VISA card is taken and at the end of each month if we use it we get a coupon for discounts at Target

85 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:40:11pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Message from an admirer in Dallas, Texas:

Gotta highlight this for Decatur Deb. He’ll hit the tip jar, as he always does after Hate Mail.

86 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:40:19pm

re: #68 sattv4u2

What You Can Do: There’s nothing you can do to protect your data on the website.

See,,,, Thats why we can’t have nice things!
/

What am I typing right now?

(What am I typing right now?)

I betcha Charles Johnson knows.

/// this is fun.

87 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:40:41pm

It is Friday, right?

88 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:41:11pm

re: #69 FemNaziBitch

Congressional GOP renews abortion focus

House Republicans will get to work today, holding another all-male congressional hearing on — what else? — restricting access to abortion.

Jobs! See…

89 abolitionist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:41:21pm

I learned several days ago that Virginia Credit Union plans on upgrading clients MC debit cards in Feb; new cards are to include chip & pin technology.

90 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:41:56pm

re: #82 FemNaziBitch

#ReplaceAMovieTitleWithBeard

Something Bearded This Way Comes

The Good, The Bad, And the Beard

91 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:42:19pm

re: #89 abolitionist

I learned several days ago that Virginia Credit Union plans on upgrading clients MC debit cards in Feb; new cards are to include chip & pin technology.

I think there is a joke in there.

92 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:42:31pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

Wifey has TJX/ Marshalls card. iirc, it’s a MasterCard so wherever she uses it she accumulates points for discounts AT TJX or Marshalls

Same with our Target VISA. We can use it anywhere a VISA card is taken and at the end of each month if we use it we get a coupon for discounts at Target

I always try to get my customers to use a debit card if they’re going to use plastic. Costs the merchant much less. Those rewards programs are my enemy, and cause prices to rise everywhere credit cards are taken.

93 Joanne  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:43:00pm

re: #81 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I received a letter from my credit union saying they had been made aware that my debit card was among the ones leaked in the Target mess. They proactively decided to issue me a new card with a new number, even though no actual fraud has occurred [yet].

They also gave me a new account number and did some other reassuring voodoo after my rent check was stolen from my apartment’s leasing office. Whole thing took about 30 minutes.

Contrast this with Compass/BBVA, who went out of their way to avoid doing anything whatsoever after some actual fraud *did* take place involving my debit card with them. Not only did they take about a month to do a chargeback and reimburse my account, they also refused to do anything like change my account number or issue a new debit card, even though my account was obviously compromised in some way. I was expected to just watch for weird transactions, and if I got cleaned out, they’d “address it” with what I only assume would have been their customary alacrity and deep, abiding concern.

5/3 gave me massive amounts of shit when my business credit card number was used fraudulently. Had it not been for KMart calling my cell (not sure how they even got the number), and asking about the charge, I wouldn’t have known that someone was using that card. The whole disaster was over $400 spent (before I shut the card down) - while I was on a business trip.

Chase, on the other hand, is really proactive in preventing fraud. I moved all my accounts to Chase. Sometimes I have to call them before a charge goes through, but that is a minor inconvenience compared to dealing with fraud after the fact.

94 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:43:10pm
95 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:43:26pm

When exactly did Sokolich endorse Buono? Answering that would go a long way towards helping compare the two motives. Also, there’s no mutual exclusivity here, there’s no reason that both issues can’t have collectively added together in the minds of Christie’s staffers / administration. That actually makes more sense for the targeting of an entire municipality than a beef with any one specific individual.

96 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:43:42pm

re: #87 FemNaziBitch

It is Friday, right?

Fat lotta good that does me

I’m working Saturday from 2 p.m. till sometime after midnight, then back at it Sunday from noon(ish) till after midnight again,,, then back at it Zero Dark Thirty Monday morning


((thinking of getting a room near work Saturday on the way in))

97 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:43:57pm

re: #90 Feline Fearless Leader

The Good, The Bad, And the Beard

The Alfred Hitchcock classic, The Beards

98 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:44:26pm

re: #77 jaunte

Here’s an organizational chart of the PANYNJ from 2011. Not all on that chart were in those same positions in 2013 when these actions occurred. For instance, Chris Ward was replaced by Gov. Cuomo with Patrick Foye after this chart was produced.

The last page is noteworthy as to who is answerable to whom:
Public Safety is answerable to the Chief Operating Officer.

It’s just another avenue for further subpoenas to testify and requests for more information to be released from the PANYNJ.

99 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:45:25pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

I always try to get my customers to use a debit card if they’re going to use plastic. Costs the merchant much less. Those rewards programs are my enemy, and cause prices to rise everywhere credit cards are taken.

Agree

We RARELY use credit cards. Mostly for my flights or hotel reservations (when checking out of the hotel we pay either cash or cancel the charge and debit it)

100 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:46:08pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

The Beard Who Wasn’t There

The Beard Over the River Kwai

Lawrence of Beard

Game of Beards

Monty Python and the Holy Beard

101 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:46:14pm

re: #90 Feline Fearless Leader

The Good, The Bad, And the Beard

The Man With The Golden Beard.

102 blueraven  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:46:37pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

NJ Senate President doesn’t think much of Maddow’s awesome new theory
NJ Senate President Rejects Maddow’s Alternate Bridge Scandal Theory

Kind of pathetic, the constant railing on Ms Maddow. Is it that she is a woman? a lesbian? what?
Even if you buy into the crap that she is just a dumb, liberal talking head, there are plenty worse on both sides. What is it?

103 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:46:43pm

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

The Man With The Golden Beard.

Chitty Chitty Beard Beard.

104 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:46:50pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

The Alfred Hitchcock classic, The Beards

105 calochortus  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:47:36pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

I always try to get my customers to use a debit card if they’re going to use plastic. Costs the merchant much less. Those rewards programs are my enemy, and cause prices to rise everywhere credit cards are taken.

The trouble with debit cards is that they don’t have the same protections as credit cards, so if your debit card is compromised, the thieves get whatever is in the account it is attached to.

I tend to try to write checks to small businesses and use my CC at the chains.

106 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:47:48pm

re: #104 darthstar

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Damn, beat me to it.

107 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:47:56pm

re: #99 sattv4u2

Agree

We RARELY use credit cards. Mostly for my flights or hotel reservations (when checking out of the hotel we pay either cash or cancel the charge and debit it)

For a long time now, I’ve preferred credit cards to debit cards because if the credit card gets compromised, there’s a charge on your statement that you can dispute with the CC issuer.

If a debit card get compromised, there might be a big hole in your bank account that you need to get reimbursed for.

108 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:48:10pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

The Alfred Hitchcock classic, The Beards

That will be the name of the first Duck Dynasty feature film.

109 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:49:16pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

Damn, beat me to it.

You could always take Red Beard…Doh! Too late! Beat you to it!

110 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:49:18pm

re: #107 EPR-radar

For a long time now, I’ve preferred credit cards to debit cards because if the credit card gets compromised, there’s a charge on your statement that you can dispute with the CC issuer.

If a debit card get compromised, there might be a big hole in your bank account that you need to get reimbursed for.

Mine was compromised to the tune of $4,500 about three years ago

i had NO issue with the bank (Wells Fargo) as far as reimbursement

111 Joanne  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:49:53pm

re: #82 FemNaziBitch

#ReplaceAMovieTitleWithBeard

Something Bearded This Way Comes

Snow White and the Beardsman

Les Miserablebeards

War of the Beards

Beard and Clyde

Resident Evil: After Beard

112 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:50:12pm

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

That will be the name of the first Duck Dynasty feature film.

And duck calls will blacken the skies and rain down breaking windows and phone booths and scaring people as they attack!!!

113 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:50:24pm

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

That will be the name of the first Duck Dynasty feature film.

A bunch of those guys perched on a jungle gym would, in fact, be frightening.

114 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:51:39pm

re: #105 calochortus

The trouble with debit cards is that they don’t have the same protections as credit cards, so if your debit card is compromised, the thieves get whatever is in the account it is attached to.

I tend to try to write checks to small businesses and use my CC at the chains.

Checks are great. They cost me nothing, and nobody has ever bounced one here in my 15 years of business.

115 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:51:58pm

re: #102 blueraven

Kind of pathetic, the constant railing on Ms Maddow. Is it that she is a woman? a lesbian? what?
Even if you buy into the crap that she is just a dumb, liberal talking head, there are plenty worse on both sides. What is it?

Kinda pathetic whipping out the misogynist or homophobe card because someone questions someone elses position

just sayin!!

116 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:53:39pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

Checks are great. They cost me nothing, and nobody has ever bounced one here in my 15 years of business.

Your lucky!! When I had my business(es) I had a cork board with no less than 50 checks (copies) that bounced

117 blueraven  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:54:52pm

re: #115 sattv4u2

Kinda pathetic whipping out the misogynist or homophobe card because someone questions someone elses position

just sayin!!

Just asking questions!
I am curious why Maddow seems to rile KT so.

118 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:54:58pm
119 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:55:36pm

I have a SunTrust check card, which I use as a credit card at various business establishments, but which actually functions as a debit card. It’s a little confusing. Anyway, I have had a couple of fraud issues come up in the last couple of years, both times SunTrust flagged it and froze my card. The fraudulent amounts were not significant. After the most recent episode in the Fall of last year, and after talking to the bank’s fraud investigator, I have tried to limit the times I swipe my card at a gas station or other outside place where these scam artists apparently work their funny business. I’ve also started carrying more cash. Back to the Future.

120 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:55:46pm

re: #117 blueraven

Just asking questions!
I am curious why Maddow seems to rile KT so.

Could have been done without bringing gender and/ or sexual preference into it though, no???

121 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:57:43pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

Your lucky!! When I had my business(es) I had a cork board with no less than 50 checks (copies) that bounced

It’s not luck. It’s the way I stare into their souls before they write it.

/

122 blueraven  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:58:29pm

re: #120 sattv4u2

Could have been done without bringing gender and/ or sexual preference into it though, no???

Some men are threatened by smart women. Some men are threatened by gay women. Some men don’t like women who question authority.

Pepper spray anyone?

123 gwangung  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:58:38pm

re: #115 sattv4u2

Kinda pathetic whipping out the misogynist or homophobe card because someone questions someone elses position

just sayin!!

It’s kinda pathetic to undergo misogyny and homophobia constantly.

Just saying’.

124 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:58:39pm

re: #119 Bulworth

I have a SunTrust check card, which I use as a credit card at various business establishments, but which actually functions as a debit card. It’s a little confusing. Anyway, I have had a couple of fraud issues come up in the last couple of years, both times SunTrust flagged it and froze my card. The fraudulent amounts were not significant. After the most recent episode in the Fall of last year, and after talking to the bank’s fraud investigator, I have tried to limit the times I swipe my card at a gas station or other outside place where these scam artists apparently work their funny business. I’ve also started carrying more cash. Back to the Future.

Cash is the best. Although I always ask for ID with it, just for laughs.

125 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:59:01pm

re: #119 Bulworth

I have a SunTrust check card, which I use as a credit card at various business establishments, but which actually functions as a debit card

I have both a Wells Fargo and CHASE that can be used as either Credit/ Debit

I have a SUNTRUST that’s only debit

As stated, my Wells Fargo was compromised via the DEBIT feature, but they rectified the problem immedialtyl

126 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:59:58pm

bbiab

127 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:00:58pm

re: #125 sattv4u2

Yeah both times SunTrust thought the transactions were suspicious and froze my card before I recognized a problem. So I’m happy they’ve been proactive. At the same time, to have this happen a couple of times where it requires a new card being sent out and my needing to make sure any automatic payments I have set up with the old card number are changed is annoying.

128 Joanne  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:02:20pm

re: #125 sattv4u2


I have a SunTrust check card, which I use as a credit card at various business establishments, but which actually functions as a debit card

I have both a Wells Fargo and CHASE that can be used as either Credit/ Debit

I have a SUNTRUST that’s only debit

As stated, my Wells Fargo was compromised via the DEBIT feature, but they rectified the problem immedialtyl

A debit issue freaks me out because that is tied directly into the checking account and wiping that out could affect bill payments, mortgage, etc. I would rather use a credit card because if it gets hosed, worst case, it maxes out.

129 AlexRogan  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:03:35pm

re: #47 Bulworth

Fort Lee mayor says port authority blamed him for lane closures.

businessinsider.com

“Why do you keep hitting yourself?”

130 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:03:37pm

re: #128 Joanne

Yeah, I have switched some of my automatic payments to a regular credit card to avoid the problem you mentioned.

131 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:04:41pm
132 Belafon  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:04:58pm

re: #105 calochortus

Both banks I am a member of treat debit card transactions the same way they handle credit card transactions: if they detect a fraudulent transaction, they negate the charge and freeze the card.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:05:08pm

DERP

134 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:06:45pm

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

Executive orders have limited power. Dictatorial decrees do not.

Logic, how does it work?

135 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:07:02pm

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

DERP

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Methinks this person does not want to be educated.

136 Mattand  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:07:36pm

re: #102 blueraven

Kind of pathetic, the constant railing on Ms Maddow. Is it that she is a woman? a lesbian? what?
Even if you buy into the crap that she is just a dumb, liberal talking head, there are plenty worse on both sides. What is it?

re: #115 sattv4u2

Kinda pathetic whipping out the misogynist or homophobe card because someone questions someone elses position

just sayin!!

There’s a really nasty homophobic slur that rang up dozens of downdings from a few years back that bolsters that supposition.

137 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:08:10pm
138 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:08:21pm

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

DERP

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They should ask Reagan.

139 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:08:22pm

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

DERP

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Well, first often Presidential Memorandae are mistaken or misreported as Executive Orders.

There are actually 3 types of Presidential Actions, as I understand it.

140 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:08:26pm

re: #128 Joanne

A debit issue freaks me out because that is tied directly into the checking account and wiping that out could affect bill payments, mortgage, etc. I would rather use a credit card because if it gets hosed, worst case, it maxes out.

Suggestion

Keep a minimum amount in you checking account (tied to the debit card) Keep the rest of the money in a money market account. When you have to make a large purchase or bill pay (i.e. mortgage) you can go online and transfer that amount from the MM account to the checking (just make sure you tell the bank that the debit CANNOT be accesable via the debit card)

141 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:08:35pm

re: #115 sattv4u2

Kinda pathetic whipping out the misogynist or homophobe card because someone questions someone elses position

just sayin!!

Kinda like people who defend Christie by bringing up Gates’ book…some idiot did that on my facebook page the other day when I made a joke about Christie.

142 Mattand  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:09:33pm

re: #137 Kragar

From Free Republic:

Please educate me? Exactly how does a Executive Order differ from a Dictator’s decree?

Well, for one, the Freepers had no fucking problem with them when a white guy made them.

143 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:09:37pm

bbl

144 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:10:02pm

re: #141 darthstar

Kinda like people who defend Christie by bringing up Gates’ book…some idiot did that on my facebook page the other day when I made a joke about Christie.

Gee

How idiotic was your ‘joke” !?!?!

145 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:10:42pm

re: #132 Belafon

Both banks I am a member of treat debit card transactions the same way they handle credit card transactions: if they detect a fraudulent transaction, they negate the charge and freeze the card.

I’m with Bank Of America, and have been very pleased with their security process. I had one time they froze my card, I had, in a 24 hour period, paid for some auto repairs (which I found out is a way that somebody working in cahoots with a crooked shop can pull funds out quickly), a new computer, travel to Vegas and a room at one of the casinos. Since my usual pattern on that card was “Gas, Groceries and 50 bucks cash” it set off all kinds of flares.

They actually contacted me, were very apologetic, but I told them no problem, I appreciated the service.

RBS

146 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:11:53pm

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

Exactly how does a Executive Order differ from a Dictator’s decree?

ask george bush, he’d know

executive orders per president:

Jimmy Carter Total 320
Ronald Reagan Total 381
George Bush Total 166
William J. Clinton Total 364
George W. Bush Total 291
Barack Obama Total 161

147 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:12:34pm
148 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:13:03pm

re: #144 sattv4u2

Gee

How idiotic was your ‘joke” !?!?!

(~):-}

149 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:13:38pm

re: #146 dog philosopher

ask george bush, he’d know

executive orders per president:

Jimmy Carter Total 320
Ronald Reagan Total 381
George Bush Total 166
William J. Clinton Total 364
George W. Bush Total 291
Barack Obama Total 161

Now look at signing statements.

151 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:14:33pm

BRYAN, JESUS THINKS U SUCK

152 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:14:38pm

re: #146 dog philosopher

ask george bush, he’d know

executive orders per president:

Jimmy Carter Total 320
Ronald Reagan Total 381
George Bush Total 166
William J. Clinton Total 364
George W. Bush Total 291
Barack Obama Total 161

Not really a good gauge UNLESS beside each Total # it were to include (in descending order)
4 years
8 years
4 years
8 years
8 years
5 years

153 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:15:18pm

154 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:15:50pm

You know which President issues TEH MOAST executive orders?

FDR!

Well he was President longer than anyone.

155 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:16:48pm

re: #150 dog philosopher

UU LIES!!!

156 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:17:45pm
157 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:17:46pm

Somebody report this Twitter account to Secret Service.

158 becominginvisible  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:19:47pm

Local NBC affilate KSHB is now claiming that up to 110million Target customers are affected by the breach.

159 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:19:55pm

re: #151 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus fed the people with fish and loaves, He didn’t decry them as moochers and tell them all to go get jobs,

160 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:21:02pm

re: #157 Pie-onist Overlord

Somebody report this Twitter account to Secret Service.

Meh…I’d rather see the woman in this pic actually pull the trigger while holding this gun as she is.
(from same asshole’s time line)

161 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:21:23pm

re: #152 sattv4u2

Not really a good gauge UNLESS beside each Total # it were to include (in descending order)

Jimmy Carter: 320/4 = 80
Ronald Reagan: 381/8 = 47.6
George Bush: 166/4 = 41.5
William J. Clinton: 364/8 = 45.5
George W. Bush: 291/8 = 36.3
Barack Obama: 161/5 = 32.2

162 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:21:31pm

re: #158 becominginvisible

Local NBC affilate KSHB is now claiming that up to 110million Target customers are affected by the breach.

Which I believe might take the record for biggest U.S. domestic data breach of all time.

163 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:22:03pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

Jimmy Carter: 320/4 = 80
Ronald Reagan: 381/8 = 47.6
George Bush: 166/4 = 41.5
William J. Clinton: 364/8 = 45.5
George W. Bush: 291/8 = 36.3
Barack Obama: 161/5 = 32.2

Nobody told me there was going to be maff!!!

164 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:22:18pm

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

When a Democrat party prez issues EO then they’re dictator degrees. When Repub prez issues them then they aren’t. They’re freedom and democracy. //

165 Mattand  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:23:03pm

re: #163 sattv4u2

Nobody told me there was going to be maff!!!

LOL, if there’s punctuation, you’re screwed.

166 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:24:35pm

Anthem BCBS advertising benefits it’s REQUIRED to offer under ACA

There’s nothing factually inaccurate about this letter. It just omits important information. Anthem does sell policies that have these features, and they do accept people who have been sick before in their lives. The thing is, these great benefits are the bare minimum benefits that all insurance plans have to have under the Affordable Care Act.

It’s a bit like advertising a car by bragging that it has tires and a windshield

167 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:24:38pm

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

The Man With The Golden Beard.

Beard Science

168 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:24:41pm

oh wow

Image: BdpMN3FCQAAVsHk.jpg

Christie Agonistes

169 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:25:41pm
170 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:25:46pm

So the veggies and chicken are all cut up for stir fry tonight

side of pot stickers are ready to be pan fried

All the Stir fry sauce ingredients are ready to be mixed,

EXCEPT ,,,


I FORGOT TO BUY SOY SAUCE FOR IT


{{grumble mumble grumble}} Have to go all the way to the store just to get a F
rakkin $1.19 bottle of Soy Sauce !!!

171 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:26:50pm

re: #165 Mattand

LOL, if there’s punctuation, you’re screwed.

And spelling,,, and grammar,,, and science ,,,

I PRAY that there is a geography pop quiz!!

172 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:27:35pm

re: #163 sattv4u2

Nobody told me there was going to be maff!!!

Not only that, you have to show your work, and spelling counts to too two also.

RBS

173 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:28:28pm
174 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:28:41pm

re: #172 RealityBasedSteve

Not only that, you have to show your work, and spelling counts to too two also.

RBS

Wear?? Ware?? Whare?? Where???

175 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:28:47pm
176 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:29:14pm

re: #167 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Beard Science

Does it still have a catchy theme song by Oingo Boingo?

177 Mattand  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:29:42pm

re: #169 Kragar

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I hope Wildstein, Kelly, Baroni, and anyone else involved in this see the inside of a fucking jail for a least a month.

178 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:30:41pm

re: #175 Kragar

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I’m just trying to imagine Carter with his accent calling the faithful to prayer from the top of the grain silo. It’s making me giggle, and that’s NOT good.

RBS

179 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:31:10pm

re: #167 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Beard Science

Quest For Beard

180 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:31:37pm

Breaking Beard

181 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:31:52pm

re: #176 Feline Fearless Leader

Does it still have a catchy theme song by Oingo Boingo?

I would think ZZ Top would be more appropriate.

Also:

Terms of Embeardment

182 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:32:08pm

2001: A Beard Odyssey

RBS

183 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:32:34pm

They’re calling Scott Walker a centrist on NPR.

184 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:32:45pm

The Spy Who Shaved Me

185 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:33:01pm

re: #175 Kragar

confirmed, fact, etc.

186 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:33:09pm

I

AM

SO

FUCKING

HAPPY

RIGHT

NOW!

Boba Fett ‘Star Wars’ Movie Could be in Works: ‘Metalocalypse’ Director Says

187 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:33:19pm

re: #182 RealityBasedSteve

2001: A Beard Odyssey

RBS

It’s a Beard, Beard, Beard, Beard, Beard, Beard World

188 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:33:25pm

Chariots Of Beard

Beard Gordon

189 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:33:55pm

re: #175 Kragar

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Shit, you mean all our presidents since Carter have been Muslim?? WTF—why isn’t there a caliphate yet? Oh, I see, it must’ve been the righteous Christian Republican presidents that kept it at bay, otherwise you’d all be our dhimmi bitches by now. // *snort, faceplam*

190 Dave In Austin  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:34:13pm

Douche Bags at it again. “Rue the Day!!”

Lions Tigers and Bears… Oh My

They got a fight going in the comments

191 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:36:39pm

re: #189 CuriousLurker

Here you see the inefficiencies inherent in the public sector crypto-jihad.

192 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:37:38pm

re: #191 jaunte

Here you see the inefficiencies inherent in the public sector crypto-jihad.

LOL, indeed. I just… *smh*

193 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:37:39pm

CNN has gone through the emails, and thinks they’ve got proof that a study was done:

4:28 p.m. ET - Amid the controversy surrounding access lane closures near the George Washington Bridge scandal for apparent political reasons, documents released Friday show that a traffic study did in fact occur.

An “early assessment” of traffic patterns on the bridge was conducted. The assessment, which was released on September 12, the fourth day of the lane closures, produced findings that detailed the number of vehicles that used the Ft. Lee section of the bridge, peak traffic hours and what the impact would be if lanes were removed or added.

I wouldn’t say that was a traffic study so much as an attempt to CYA by those involved. A traffic study would have involved more people, including local PD at Fort Lee to alert them to the potential for traffic, etc. Because any kind of adjustment of lanes at the bridge would have fallout locally, and Fort Lee would have to adjust their traffic patterns accordingly. To simply claim they did this to find out what happens when they randomly shut lanes for no good reason is akin to simply causing chaos to see what happens and how everyone responds.

Here’s the answer - not well. Especially when you screw with people’s commutes on the first week of September with schools opening up and a full commute expected on roads/bridges due to the return to regular business hours for many businesses that stopped their summer hours (flex schedules).

4:02 p.m. ET - David Wildstein, New Jersey’s top official at the Port Authority who has since left his job, forwarded e-mails about the bridge lane closures in September from his official account to his personal G-mail.

On one occasion, Wildstein forwarded the e-mails after a member of his staff told him that a Wall Street Journal reporter was asking questions about the lane closures.

He did the same when Democratic Congressman Bill Pascrell sent a letter inquiring about the traffic getting onto the bridge.

194 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:38:12pm
195 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:39:00pm

So the Port Authority lied and told people the mayor of Fort Lee shut down the bridge:

Image: ERlQcBH.png

196 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:40:22pm
197 Bulworth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:40:26pm

re: #193 lawhawk

To simply claim they did this to find out what happens when they randomly shut lanes for no good reason is akin to simply causing chaos to see what happens and how everyone responds.

Yeah but isn’t that pretty much the wingnut style of government?

///

198 freetoken  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:41:00pm

re: #183 Amory Blaine

They’re calling Scott Walker a centrist on NPR.

NPR/PBS - both have become increasingly reliant on funding from major corporations, and I now find the vanilla-i-zation of almost every topic covered by the news programs of these outlets to be too much to bother spending my time to listen/view.

Sure, there may be an individual who comes along and does a true investigative piece once in a while, but for me it’s just not worth the effort to try and sort the wheat from the corporate chaff.

199 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:43:15pm

Alrighty then

After searching every drawer, cabinet, nook and cranny in here, there is NO SOY SAUCE

SO ,,,,,, 20 mile (round trip) to the nearest store to get some!!!

oh ,,, joy

200 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:43:21pm

re: #195 Aqua Obama

The PAPD were getting the instructions to say that from somewhere. You’ve got to follow the chain of command to see who said what to whom.

At this point, I’m all for completely nuking the PANYNJ public authority structure and starting from scratch. Everyone should be booted and house cleaned - including anyone at the GWB who was involved in this decision.

Next step. Merge the PAPD into the local PD on both sides of the Hudson, and work out a method for addressing crossing the border - so that you can have pursuits and coverage on PATH, etc.

Eliminate the PAPD altogether and you’d save a few hundred million in personnel and other costs since they pay/pension higher than every other PD in the region, including the NYPD.

201 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:44:39pm

re: #199 sattv4u2

Alrighty then

After searching every drawer, cabinet, nook and cranny in here, there is NO SOY SAUCE

SO ,,,,,, 20 mile (round trip) to the nearest store to get some!!!

oh ,,, joy

Damn, do you live in the freaking boonies? Isn’t there a convenience store that sells it, or maybe even a Chinese restaurant you can talk out of some?

202 leftynyc  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:45:32pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

Mine was compromised to the tune of $4,500 about three years ago

i had NO issue with the bank (Wells Fargo) as far as reimbursement

Mine was for around $200 and Citibank immediately reimbursed me.

203 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:45:58pm

re: #199 sattv4u2

Just use some anchovies and worchestershire sauce.

204 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:46:50pm

re: #201 CuriousLurker

Damn, do you live in the freaking boonies? Isn’t there a convenience store that sells it, or maybe even a Chinese restaurant you can talk out of some?

boonies,,, YUP
Closest Chinese restaurant is in the same strip mall as the closest store
There is a convenience store closer, but they don’t carry things like that

Gas,,, beer,,, wine,,, coffee ,, snacks ,, Lotto tickets,,,,, bread/ milk/ soda ,, etc

205 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:47:27pm

re: #203 Amory Blaine

Just use some anchovies and worchestershire sauce.

Have one (anchovies) ,,,,, not the other

206 leftynyc  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:47:32pm

re: #129 AlexRogan

“Why do you keep hitting yourself?”

Could it be as simple as that? The Christie folks closed the bridge and tried to get the mayor to take the blame?

207 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:49:56pm

re: #205 sattv4u2


Beef boullion and vinegar?

208 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:50:26pm

re: #207 Amory Blaine

Beef boullion and vinegar?

Again,,,,, 50%!!

209 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:50:44pm

which 50?

210 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:52:31pm

re: #209 Amory Blaine

which 50?

The vinegar. I just used my last beef bullion cube last night for a cup of broth as a snack

211 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:52:54pm

re: #209 Amory Blaine

Thanks for the suggestions anyway

Hitting the road

212 leftynyc  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:53:57pm

re: #170 sattv4u2

So the veggies and chicken are all cut up for stir fry tonight

side of pot stickers are ready to be pan fried

All the Stir fry sauce ingredients are ready to be mixed,

EXCEPT ,,,

>I FORGOT TO BUY SOY SAUCE FOR IT

{{grumble mumble grumble}} Have to go all the way to the store just to get a F
rakkin $1.19 bottle of Soy Sauce !!!

Try Tamari - it tastes better and it’s gluten free.

213 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:55:16pm

re: #205 sattv4u2

Have one (anchovies) ,,,,, not the other

You don’t have Worcestershire sauce? WTF are you, some kinda commie subversive or something?

214 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:55:24pm

re: #186 Kragar

That link is blocked here, but am I to understand that Brendon Small is doing a Boba Fett movie?!

215 ericblair  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:05:29pm

re: #79 Political Atheist

That’s half my point. Healthcare.gov has all the vulnerabilities other “secure” sites have.

What the article doesn’t seem to mention about these backend vulnerabilities is that in accordance with standard Federal practices they don’t accept traffic except from each other. Valid source IPs are put on a whitelist, and any traffic from other sources to that destination is dropped in the bit bucket by the routers. If you try to spoof the source IP for an attack, the routers will notice (via RPF) that the traffic is not coming from the correct link and drop it as well.

216 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:11:41pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

Checks can hurt at my day job. Two ways-we do get “returned items” and the postal transit means we always have (redacted) many thousands of dollars “in the mail” We are always looking for an edge like wire transfers etc.

WW bless you and your customers who always pay well. If that comes in a bottle, I’ll buy a bunch. :-)


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