GOHMERT! compares Obamacare to the Soviet Union

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It’s been awhile since GOHMERT weighed in with his usual kooky wackiness, but the hiatus has not mellowed him toward reality one bit!

There are some people that say, “Just let it go, it will fail on its own, and so why not let it go?” Well, that is true. It will fall on its own. But the Soviet Union was destined to fall. But think of the tens of millions of people that died, think of all the freedoms that were taken away from people for around 70 plus years. And I’m one of those who believes that Reagan, by the stand he took, by being aggressive and standing up to them, I believe he saved 20 years of liberty for people who wouldn’t have had it, maybe, in their lifetime.

He goes on to allege that new rules under the Affordable Care Act that went into effect on January 1 are preventing the father of one of his staff members from getting a pacemaker.

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220 comments
1 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 9:58:52am

One of the most reliably stupid people alive.

And apparently the father of the Ferenghi race, too.

2 Tigger2  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:45:48am

Gohmert you are a fail.

3 kerFuFFler  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:47:47am

Medicare is way more “socialist” than Obamacare, but you don’t see any of these jerks telling their scooter-bound Tea Party brethren that….

4 sauceruney  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 11:48:35am

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Soviet Union wasn’t so much a problem than the fact conservatives were no less batshit crazy 60 years ago, than they are today.

5 No Country For Old Haters  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:34:16pm

re: #1 BusyMonster

One of the most reliably stupid people alive.

And apparently the father of the Ferenghi race, too.

Acting crazy is bad for business. It has to be against at least one of the Rules of Acquisition, so he sucks at being a Ferenghi just as much as he sucks at being a congressman and a person.

6 No Country For Old Haters  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:36:08pm

re: #4 sauceruney

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Soviet Union wasn’t so much a problem than the fact conservatives were no less batshit crazy 60 years ago, than they are today.

Of course. Their maniacs and our maniacs use each other as a threat to control their local populations and line their own pockets. It’s been this way for a very long time.

7 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:45:38pm

Moron.

8 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:47:12pm

He better be careful. No one under 30 remembers the cold war.

9 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:49:23pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

He better be careful. No one under 30 remembers the cold war.

Given the aging GOP base, I don’t see that’s a problem.

10 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:51:21pm

Apparently State’s Rights only count for ignoring Federal gun control laws, enforcing traditional marriage or banning abortions.


Senator Ted Cruz attacks Obama for not locking up marijuana users in Colorado

Yeah, we can’t let States violate Federal Laws now, can we?
/

11 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:54:20pm

re: #1 BusyMonster

One of the most reliably stupid people alive.

And apparently the father of the Ferenghi race, too.

That sounds like a photoshop challenge for Gus.

12 Lidane  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:54:55pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

He better be careful. No one under 30 remembers the cold war.

A whole lot of people over 30 don’t remember it either if GOHMERT! and the rest of the GOP are any indication.

13 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:55:36pm

14 Lidane  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:58:09pm
15 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 1:58:24pm

Has anyone gotten Sarah Palin’s reaction to this yet?

Alaska drops TransCanada deal, plots new way forward on gas pipeline

Read more here: adn.com

How much money did this “oil energy expert” waste on this crap?

16 Lidane  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:00:54pm

re: #10 Kragar

Apparently State’s Rights only count for ignoring Federal gun control laws, enforcing traditional marriage or banning abortions.

Also for denying people health care.

17 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:01:05pm
think of all the freedoms that were taken away from people for around 70 plus years

Ok first, They were hardly a liberated, free paradise before communism, so, not much changed for the majority of poor, exploited workers, just new dictators.

And if Romneycare = The Soviet Union, then western Europe must be a cesspool of suffering masses, barely surviving and living under dictator rule.

18 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:02:10pm

the fact that obamacare is alive and well and solving health insurance problems for millions of americans is increasingly dealt with by the right wing through Denial Of Reality attacks

19 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:02:32pm

IF WE JUST ISSUE ENOUGH NO-BID MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR POINTLESS EQUIPMENT, WE CAN BRING DOWN OBAMACARE. LIKE DAVID BROUGHT DOWN GOLIATH WITH A SLING THAT WAS OVERBUDGET BY 100 MILLION, FOUR YEARS LATE, AND WAS ALSO A TROOP CARRIER,

PRAISE REAGAN

IA IA PH’NGLUI MGLW’NAFH WELFARE QUEENS CADILLACS WGAH’NAGL FHTAGN

20 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:08:25pm

actually, reading r/w blogs, it’s clear that a lot of people still think that obamacare means that you will be forced to get your health insurance plan through the exchange

21 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:09:51pm

Latest from West Virginia:

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) — The West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection’s Division of Water and Waste Management has issued a Cease Operations Order to Freedom Industries in connection with the company’s leak of 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol into the Elk River.

Also, the WVDEP’s Division of Air Quality has issued a Notice of Violation to Freedom Industries for causing statutory air pollution by discharging MCHM into the air.

Cease Operations Order Issued to Freedom Industries

Article also has PDF links to DEP’s letter to Freedom Industries and the Cease & Desist Order.

22 Lidane  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:10:15pm

re: #20 dog philosopher

actually, reading r/w blogs, it’s clear that a lot of people still think that obamacare means that you will be forced to get your health insurance plan through the exchange

They also believe in death panels, too. Fox News and the rest of the RWNJ machine has them all well trained.

23 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:10:37pm

re: #17 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11

Ok first, They were hardly a liberated, free paradise before communism, so, not much changed for the majority of poor, exploited workers, just new dictators.

And if Romneycare = The Soviet Union, then western Europe must be a cesspool of suffering masses, barely surviving and living under dictator rule.

oh i’ve had plenty of people tell me that england is a ‘socialist hellhole’ where everybody walks around with their teeth falling out

24 Ian G.  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:10:37pm

re: #10 Kragar

Apparently State’s Rights only count for ignoring Federal gun control laws, enforcing traditional marriage or banning abortions.


Senator Ted Cruz attacks Obama for not locking up marijuana users in Colorado

Yeah, we can’t let States violate Federal Laws now, can we?
/

“States rights” means “whatever the fuck the reactionaries want”. C’mon, do you think South Carolina was in favor of “states rights” when it applied to New York or Massachusetts ignoring federal fugitive slaves laws? That was one of their grievances upon seceding.

25 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:11:45pm

re: #20 dog philosopher

I know, it’s crazy what they have been told, or more precisely, what they have been led to believe. I know right wingers who swear they will be sent to jail for not buying “government health care”.

26 Ian G.  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:12:21pm

re: #23 dog philosopher

oh i’ve had plenty of people tell me that england is a ‘socialist hellhole’ where everybody walks around with their teeth falling out

Yeah, I doubt too many wingers (at least the FOX News true believers) have ever set foot outside the borders of this country, aside from maybe a vacation to Cancun or Montego Bay. They probably genuinely believe Western Europe is poverty-riddled and overrun by Islamist gangs.

27 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:13:43pm

Awww. Someone needs his diaper changed again. Problem is though, it’s Texas. So, it’s bigger and all full up! I hope Texas can take care of it, as it stinks all the way up here in Ohio.

28 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:13:58pm

re: #23 dog philosopher

oh i’ve had plenty of people tell me that england is a ‘socialist hellhole’ where everybody walks around with their teeth falling out

That classic chestnut, “people had to wait for healthcare, which is totally worse than them not being able to get it entirely”!!

29 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:14:03pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Communists interfering with the FREE MARKET! I owe my prodigious thinking powers to drinking Cuyahoga river water back in the day. As an added benefit, it cleaned out my sinuses.

30 ericblair  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:18:19pm

re: #23 dog philosopher

oh i’ve had plenty of people tell me that england is a ‘socialist hellhole’ where everybody walks around with their teeth falling out

Apparently they eat something called “spotted dick” there, which is an abomination unto the Lord. Plus it rains a lot.

31 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:18:24pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Latest from West Virginia:

Cease Operations Order Issued to Freedom Industries

Article also has PDF links to DEP’s letter to Freedom Industries and the Cease & Desist Order.

I notice the co site has a 2005 copyright on it. Wonder if it was one of those Federal contracting services that was originally set up to service the Iraq War?

32 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:18:38pm

Okay, I watched the complete video. I’m sick now.

Gohmert and out!

33 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:19:58pm

just think how would he have described single payer? he’s already waving the red scare flag as fast as he can.

34 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:21:09pm

re: #30 ericblair

Apparently they eat something called “spotted dick” there, which is an abomination unto the Lord. Plus it rains a lot.

Spotted dick is a lovely dessert cake made w/dried fruits (currants, raisins) and accompanied by a custard sauce.

Image: 300px-Spotted_Dick_Wikimeet_London_2005.jpg

35 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:21:38pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

I notice the co site has a 2005 copyright on it. Wonder if it was one of those Federal contracting services that was originally set up to service the Iraq War?

Probably not. They were founded in 1986.

36 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:22:26pm

I’m not familiar with the episode…


…but the caption translates to ‘I am the lizard queen!’

37 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:23:32pm

re: #30 ericblair

And quite frankly, we do have better teeth (Sorry British readers, we out weigh you though!)

38 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:24:03pm

re: #33 Political Atheist

just think how would he have described single payer? he’s already waving the red scare flag as fast as he can.

The hordes of Genghis Khan, rioting across the sea of grass, carrying single payer health with them and leaving only mounds of corpses with excellent dental care in their wake.

39 ericblair  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:25:01pm

re: #34 Justanotherhuman

Spotted dick is a lovely dessert cake made w/dried fruits (currants, raisins) and accompanied by a custard sauce.

Image: 300px-Spotted_Dick_Wikimeet_London_2005.jpg

Spotted Dick is PEOPLE!

40 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:25:52pm

re: #34 Justanotherhuman

I’ve always wondered how it got its name?

41 bratwurst  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:27:29pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

I’m not familiar with the episode…

[Embedded content]


…but the caption translates to ‘I am the lizard queen!’

I am going to guess it is when she drank the water when they were on the “It’s a Small World”-like boat ride and started tripping…as has happened to pretty much every character on the show at one time or another!

42 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:28:37pm

re: #34 Justanotherhuman

Spotted dick is a lovely dessert cake made w/dried fruits (currants, raisins) and accompanied by a custard sauce.

That’s not what my doctor said!

43 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:28:45pm

Sorry for going OT, but #OhHellNo:

World’s Scariest Airport Runways (PHOTOS) O_o

44 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:28:49pm

re: #30 ericblair

Apparently they eat something called “spotted dick”

that’s just part of the british anti-american disinformation campaign, where they keep you from eating by calling cookies ‘biscuits’ and breakfast sausages ‘pudding’

45 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:29:42pm

re: #40 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11

Someone with a bad cold wanted pudding, and asked for puddick.

46 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:29:47pm

re: #40 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11

I’ve always wondered how it got its name?

No one seems to know for sure.

straightdope.com

47 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:30:02pm
48 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:31:14pm

re: #38 The Ghost of a Flea

As things stand, America is to be blotted out like the Cathars of Langedoc, who Raymond of Toulouse destroyed by providing preventative care and recommending moderate exercise and diet that doesn’t cause spikes in blood sugar.

49 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:31:41pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably not. They were founded in 1986.

Ah. Do you have more info on them? Who owns it, etc?

50 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:33:34pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

I’m not familiar with the episode…

[Embedded content]


…but the caption translates to ‘I am the lizard queen!’

That’s from one of the early seasons. Lisa drinks the water from something and starts hallucinating.

51 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:34:29pm
52 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:34:45pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

Sorry for going OT, but #OhHellNo:

World’s Scariest Airport Runways (PHOTOS) O_o

Check this out…..a 747 landing at St. Maarten.

Youtube Video

53 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:34:47pm

Afternoon Lizardim from the warm and wonderful wild north country. (Thank you, Obama.) How go things among the lizardfolk this cloudy yet mild afternoon?

54 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:36:02pm

re: #41 bratwurst

That was the one, where Selma I think was looking after Her and Bart. A REALLY early episode. Second or Third season I think.

55 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:38:02pm

foxed up news today:


BIDING ITS TIME? FBI hasn’t contacted most Tea Party groups in IRS probe

LAWYER REPRESENTING DOZENS OF TEA PARTY GROUPS says only a few of his clients have been approached by federal investigators over the IRS targeting scandal, in the latest complaint about the slow pace of the probe eight months after the original admission.

apparently there is some very suspicious activity on the part of the government where it is failing to act out the paranoid fantasies of the r/w!

56 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:41:28pm
57 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:42:32pm

Youtube Video

Clip leading to the quote

58 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:49:56pm

I hope his name is “Meta”

59 BongCrodny  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:50:21pm

I, too, predict Obamacare will fail.

It may take the zombie apocalypse, or it may take a meteor crashing into the Earth, or it may take until the sun has run out of fuel and becomes a red dwarf, BUT IT WILL FAIL!

60 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:50:40pm

Worked some more on drag and drop uploading - now we have real error messages. If the image file’s too large ( > 500K) , you’ll now see an error message telling you that, instead of the generic catch-all message used by the old uploading method. And even better, it tells you right away if it’s too large instead of first uploading the file, so the feedback is much more immediate.

61 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:50:49pm

re: #55 dog philosopher

foxed up news today:


BIDING ITS TIME? FBI hasn’t contacted most Tea Party groups in IRS probe

LAWYER REPRESENTING DOZENS OF TEA PARTY GROUPS says only a few of his clients have been approached by federal investigators over the IRS targeting scandal, in the latest complaint about the slow pace of the probe eight months after the original admission.

apparently there is some very suspicious activity on the part of the government where it is failing to act out the paranoid fantasies of the r/w!

Its almost like after the initial investigation, there was nothing there to follow up on.

62 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:52:37pm

Also, right now you can only upload one file at a time with drag and drop, but I’ll be adding the ability to drag and drop more than one image at a time, as soon as I figure out how to reconfigure the interface.

63 The War TARDIS  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:53:50pm

Gus just snapped at me. :(

64 piratedan  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:58:22pm

re: #63 The War TARDIS

Gus just snapped at me. :(

quit poking him with stick then…… //////

65 Dave In Austin  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:59:12pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

I’m getting a “File Extension not allowed”, for JPG? I’m using a Mac

66 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 2:59:16pm

As if public servants don’t have enough to put up with, now the public will have reason to suspect that even road closures could be political.

67 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:01:35pm

re: #65 Dave In Austin

I’m getting a “File Extension not allowed”, for JPG? I’m using a Mac

Does the file have the extension in uppercase like that?

68 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:01:49pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

I’m not familiar with the episode…

[Embedded content]


…but the caption translates to ‘I am the lizard queen!’

Selma’s Choice

69 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:02:26pm

This is a good development and could shed some light on Adam Lanza’s real motives and his state of mind.

Father of Sandy Hook Shooter to Turn Over Son’s Medical Records

nbcconnecticut.com

70 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:06:05pm

re: #65 Dave In Austin

I’m getting a “File Extension not allowed”, for JPG? I’m using a Mac

OK, that’s what it was - if you reload the page that’s now fixed.

71 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:09:03pm

Well, apparently the neighbor from hell is now on the run from the cops.

72 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:09:26pm

If there’s a hell, that cat will see to it that the woman sees it as soon as possible.

73 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:13:18pm

Would you ride this elevator?
The unnerving elevator aka the enervator.

My ride to a customer yesterday. I hope they don’t use odd cables as often as odd buttons!

74 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:14:29pm

re: #71 Kragar

Well, apparently the neighbor from hell is now on the run from the cops.

Time wounds all heels?

75 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:14:55pm

re: #73 Political Atheist

It’s not the worst elevator I’ve been in. The elevators in my current client’s building are absolutely possessed. One group of cow-orkers got stuck in there for 2 hours just trying to get out to go to lunch.

76 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:15:48pm

re: #71 Kragar

Well, apparently the neighbor from hell is now on the run from the cops.

Better than intentionally burning down the house to try to claim the insurance money…

77 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:16:16pm

re: #74 Political Atheist

Time wounds all heels?

I guess so. The cops showed up at his place over the weekend and talked to him, and they’ve been back 2 more times looking for him. His roommates are still here, but we never had a problem with them.

78 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:19:16pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

It’s not the worst elevator I’ve been in. The elevators in my current client’s building are absolutely possessed. One group of cow-orkers got stuck in there for 2 hours just trying to get out to go to lunch.

We have an elevator in our building - which is only two floors. It’s the slowest elevator I’ve ever ridden in. It takes about 30 seconds to change floors, most of which seems to be spent deciding whether to move, then later trying to find the exact spot to stop so that it drops 3 or so inches all at once when it thinks it’s there.

The drop just before the doors open is creepy. I used to take the elevator when I had my bike, so I could leave it by my office instead of out on the roof rack for all to see and steal. The *BUMP!* scared me into carrying the bike over my shoulder and taking the stairs.

79 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:19:56pm

re: #73 Political Atheist

Would you ride this elevator?
The unnerving elevator aka the enervator.

My ride to a customer yesterday. I hope they don’t use odd cables as often as odd buttons!

It’s wrong, too. 8 is greater than 7.

80 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:21:39pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

Whatever the Pilots and flight attendants in Lesotho are making, it’s not enough.

81 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:23:50pm
82 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:23:57pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

It’s not the worst elevator I’ve been in. The elevators in my current client’s building are absolutely possessed. One group of cow-orkers got stuck in there for 2 hours just trying to get out to go to lunch.

We still have paternoster elevators. Here’s a YouTube of one at the Pasaž Lucerna in downtown Prague.

Youtube Video

83 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:24:50pm

The latest from Gary Bauer:

“Ted Kennedy can drive a woman off a bridge and go on to serve decades in the Senate and be hailed as a courageous leader. But if a Republican shuts down a bridge, the left is ready to breakout the pitchforks.”

84 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:24:58pm

re: #78 GeneJockey

Our building was built in the 1970’s. The elevators, apparently, have had the absolute minimum service ever since. And I do mean minimum; the buttons may or may not work depending on which panel you’re pressing, they’re slow, they frequently malfunction and have a reputation for getting stuck. However, the company appears to be doing well enough now that they’ve finally ponied up to get the elevators refurbished this year.

85 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:26:13pm

re: #79 GeneJockey

It’s wrong, too. 8 is greater than 7.

it’s a boolean expression that evaluates to false

86 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:27:18pm

re: #83 Kragar

Harry Truman: “I don’t give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it’s Hell.”

87 Zamb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:27:38pm

“x can’t get the treatment they need” is gonna be the new “I saw someone buying king crab legs with food stamps.” Probably one single story backs up an entire movements claims of rampant abuse.

88 bratwurst  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:27:53pm
90 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:29:23pm

re: #30 ericblair

Apparently they eat something called “spotted dick” there, which is an abomination unto the Lord. Plus it rains a lot.

Except in the Thames Valley, where Inspector Morse solves 6 murders a week.

91 Kragar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:31:38pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Except in the Thames Valley, where Inspector Morse solves 6 murders a week.

But only maybe 4 times a year.

92 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:31:43pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Except in the Thames Valley, where Inspector Morse solves 6 murders a week.

Did you ever consider that Inspector Morse is actually an incredibly cunning serial killer who manages to frame all those people?
Just saying….

RBS

93 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:33:03pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

It’s not the worst elevator I’ve been in. The elevators in my current client’s building are absolutely possessed. One group of cow-orkers got stuck in there for 2 hours just trying to get out to go to lunch.

Elevators!! You kids these days. In my time we rode Paternosters, and we liked it.

en.wikipedia.org

(Rode one in the old IG Farben Building in Heidelberg. The device is so jacked up it has its own OSHA standard.)

94 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:34:44pm

UBER MAXIMUS CUTENESS ALERT!!!!!
Baby white tiger makes friends with Lab puppy.

Warning: Contains dangerously high levels of “OHHHHHH”

Youtube Video

RBS

95 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:35:10pm

re: #87 Zamb

“x can’t get the treatment they need” is gonna be the new “I saw someone buying king crab legs with food stamps.” Probably one single story backs up an entire movements claims of rampant abuse.

NOW WORKING PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE FOR THE HEALTHCARE THAT I DON’T BELIEVE THEY SHOULD GET!!!!!

96 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:35:40pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Except in the Thames Valley, where Inspector Morse solves 6 murders a week.

Even worse, Midsomer, where 6 people a day are more likely to be murdered for not serving spotted dick in those tiny villages.

97 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:36:34pm

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Elevators!! You kids these days. In my time we rode Paternosters, and we liked it.

en.wikipedia.org

(Rode one in the old IG Farben Building ion Heidelberg. The device is so jacked up it has its own OSHA standeard.)

That’s pretty epic.

98 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:41:34pm

re: #92 RealityBasedSteve

Did you ever consider that Inspector Morse is actually an incredibly cunning serial killer who manages to frame all those people?
Just saying….

RBS

Ooooh…….that changes things.

99 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:41:40pm

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Elevators!! You kids these days. In my time we rode Paternosters, and we liked it.

en.wikipedia.org

(Rode one in the old IG Farben Building in Heidelberg. The device is so jacked up it has its own OSHA standeard.)

is that what they’re called?

the only time i ever saw one of those was in a university building in copenhagen and i just thought ‘oh those crazy danes there they go again’

now i want some rød grød med fløde

100 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:41:50pm

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

Even worse, Midsomer, where 6 people a day are more likely to be murdered for not serving spotted dick in those tiny villages.

…and the murders would all be performed with implements that were somehow thematic with steamed puddings.

(Currently binging on Midsomer eps. Watching them one after another kind of emphasizes the small town, giant serial crime death count)

101 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:43:06pm

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

We still have paternoster elevators. Here’s a YouTube of one at the Pasaž Lucerna in downtown Prague.

[Embedded content]

I wonder how many legs have been broken getting off and on those things?

102 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:43:27pm

re: #92 RealityBasedSteve

Did you ever consider that Inspector Morse is actually an incredibly cunning serial killer who manages to frame all those people?
Just saying….

RBS

The Chief Inspector With the Dragon Tattoo

103 Joanne  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:43:34pm

re: #85 dog philosopher

it’s a boolean expression that evaluates to false

Excellent.

104 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:43:58pm

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Elevators!! You kids these days. In my time we rode Paternosters, and we liked it.

en.wikipedia.org

(Rode one in the old IG Farben Building in Heidelberg. The device is so jacked up it has its own OSHA standard.)

There’s two left in Prague…..the one in Pasaž Lucerna, and another one at the Ministry of Health building.

There is one here in Ostrava, but it’s shut down currently. They were going to rip it out and replace it, but it’s been decided to renovate it instead. It should reopen this summer.

105 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:46:13pm

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

There’s two left in Prague…..the one in Pasaž Lucerna, and another one at the Ministry of Health building.

…snip.

Trauma Surgery Institute?

106 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:49:45pm

Friday evening. Co-worker just got out his new brass Gretch and is serenading the rest of us left here:
musiciansfriend.com

107 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:52:28pm
108 jaunte  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:56:29pm
The other business will be a for-profit tech corporation that will develop privacy software and “tools.”

I recall this fear/solution business setup from The Arms of Krupp.

109 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 3:59:24pm

re: #105 Decatur Deb

Trauma Surgery Institute?

Heh.

I’ve used them before, and I’ve never had a problem. It takes a little getting used to.

110 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:06:58pm

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I’ve used them before, and I’ve never had a problem. It takes a little getting used to.

I’d imagine it’s a real case of “Keep your hands and feet inside the ride”.

111 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:12:20pm

re: #94 RealityBasedSteve

>UBER MAXIMUS CUTENESS ALERT!!!!!
Baby white tiger makes friends with Lab puppy.

Warning: Contains dangerously high levels of “OHHHHHH”

[Embedded content]

RBS

Bengal cat, not Bengal Tiger. I looked up the addy on the vid. NOTE: this does not detract at all from the UBER MAXIMUS CUTENESS.

112 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:13:02pm

113 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:13:35pm

Great, now I’m thirsty.

114 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:15:39pm
115 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:16:02pm

re: #113 wrenchwench

Great, now I’m thirsty.

And I have to pee…never mind…had to pee.

116 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:19:44pm

It’s terrible, but it’s called war. It was an accident. What are you insinuating there, Greenwald? We are pulling our combat troops from Afghanistan. Is it worse than children being used as suicide bombers? You must really hate this country. Nothing anyone in this country does will ever suit you. No politician is as right as the Mighty Greenwald in your little mind. Well, tough titty. Not everyone exists to satisfy you and what you want.


There are just some people in this world who I cannot abide and wish would just go away and fade from view.

117 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:20:39pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Bengal cat, not Bengal Tiger. I looked up the addy on the vid. NOTE: this does not detract at all from the UBER MAXIMUS CUTENESS.

Ok, my bad. In any case, one of my kats had to come wandering out when the one in the vid did those loud high MEWS. Told them I was shopping for their replacement.

RBS

118 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:20:44pm

re: #110 GeneJockey

I’d imagine it’s a real case of “Keep your hands and feet inside the ride”.

And head, and torso. The Farben system tried to cut a teenage summer intern in half. The system was not designed for screwing around, so of course they were installed in British universities. Students report a game of grabbing a newbie and making him go ‘over the top’.

forum.towerstimes.co.uk!/

119 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:22:17pm

Just to add my $.02.

Ronald Reagan did not end the USSR.

120 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:24:24pm

That’s one smart dog!

Youtube Video

121 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:27:10pm

re: #120 GlutenFreeJesus

That’s one smart dog!

[Embedded content]

It was her day to make supper.

122 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:33:40pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

There’s Hate Mail in the previous thread at #63. It’s a goodie baddie.

123 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:35:55pm

re: #94 RealityBasedSteve

>UBER MAXIMUS CUTENESS ALERT!!!!!
Baby white tiger makes friends with Lab puppy.

Warning: Contains dangerously high levels of “OHHHHHH”

[Embedded content]

RBS

Cute but it appears the lab has feathers in the brain cavity.

124 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:36:46pm

re: #116 Justanotherhuman

It’s terrible, but it’s called war. It was an accident. What are you insinuating there, Greenwald? We are pulling our combat troops from Afghanistan. Is it worse than children being used as suicide bombers? You must really hate this country. Nothing anyone in this country does will ever suit you. No politician is as right as the Mighty Greenwald in your little mind. Well, tough titty. Not everyone exists to satisfy you and what you want.

[Embedded content]


There are just some people in this world who I cannot abide and wish would just go away and fade from view.

The Taliban deliberately murder children, quite often. And I don’t think I’ve ever heard a word of condemnation from Glenn Greenwald about that.

125 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:40:14pm

Note to Louie, the Soviet Union was evil for reasons other than having socialized medicine. Fucking Champ Kind wannabe.

126 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:42:02pm

re: #119 b_sharp

Just to add my $.02.

Ronald Reagan did not end the USSR.

No, he didn’t. I’ll say it here but Reagan was damn lucky for most of his presidency he dealt with Gorbachev rather than a hardliner like Andropov (former KGB head) or Chernenko (Brezhnev lite). Frankly the people of the EAstern Bloc don’t get enough credit. Whether it was the Hungarians in ‘56, the Czechs and Slovaks in ‘68, or the Poles in the late 70’s and early 80’s and etc.

127 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:44:31pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

No, he didn’t. I’ll say it here but Reagan was damn lucky for most of his presidency he dealt with Gorbachev rather than a hardliner like Andropov (former KGB head) or Chernenko (Brezhnev lite). Frankly the people of the EAstern Bloc don’t get enough credit. Whether it was the Hungarians in ‘56, the Czechs and Slovaks in ‘68, or the Poles in the late 70’s and early 80’s and etc.

Gorby had Reagan wrapped around his finger once he learned how to BS him about being supposedly a closet orthodox believer.

128 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:46:25pm

When you drag and drop an image that’s over the 500K maximum size now, it will display a popup with the maximum size allowed, and the name of your file and its size for comparison.

If you’re a Mac user, I recommend this little utility for quick scaling and editing of image files: ImageWell. The nice thing about it: when you finish editing an image you can just drag it out of the ImageWell window and drop it in the LGF comment box. Couldn’t be easier.

129 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:46:37pm

re: #127 William Barnett-Lewis

Gorby had Reagan wrapped around his finger once he learned how to BS him about being supposedly a closet orthodox believer.

Interesting, I had never heard that. Anyhow, speaking of “winning the Cold War”, I’m reading the late David Halbersham’s book on the Korean War and he argues that early Cold Warriors like Dean Acheson deserve their due for containing the Soviets when they did and I absolutely subscribe to that sentiment too.

130 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:48:45pm

well the usual story is that reagan hastened the end of the ussr by radically increasing our military spending so that the ussr had to kill itself trying to keep up. obviously, how much sooner the ussr gave up because of this can only be a guess

and it strikes me as a thoroughly damaging and disreputable way to influence other countries

but without that, try finding out why st ronnie remains the only true conservative saint…

131 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:50:08pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

No, he didn’t. I’ll say it here but Reagan was damn lucky for most of his presidency he dealt with Gorbachev rather than a hardliner like Andropov (former KGB head) or Chernenko (Brezhnev lite). Frankly the people of the EAstern Bloc don’t get enough credit. Whether it was the Hungarians in ‘56, the Czechs and Slovaks in ‘68, or the Poles in the late 70’s and early 80’s and etc.

Gorbachev was working on changing the USSR and bringing down the wall.

132 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:50:29pm
133 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:51:01pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

When you drag and drop an image that’s over the 500K maximum size now, it will display a popup with the maximum size allowed, and the name of your file and its size for comparison.

If you’re a Mac user, I recommend this little utility for quick scaling and editing of image files: ImageWell. The nice thing about it: when you finish editing an image you can just drag it out of the ImageWell window and drop it in the LGF comment box. Couldn’t be easier.

We sure get a lot of gifts when there isn’t an election to worry about.

134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:51:05pm

good grief…

135 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:51:25pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

The Taliban deliberately murder children, quite often. And I don’t think I’ve ever heard a word of condemnation from Glenn Greenwald about that.

Greenwald doesn’t actually care about anyone but himself. Even when he pretends to, it’s for his own benefit and means to an end, a way to promote his own agenda.

He doesn’t give a damn if anyone has “privacy”. If he did, he wouldn’t approve of hacking and stealing govt documents. And the people’s names that are contained in those documents, those public servants whose names might appear in those documents, are put at grave risk. But that isn’t as important to him as “exposing” the perceived “wrongdoing” of the govt and trying to make a name for himself.

136 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:54:15pm
137 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:54:39pm
138 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:54:42pm

facepalm

139 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:56:45pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

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Because that’s what you said. It certainly is tragic but to imply as Greenwald has here that the killing of this boy was deliberate when he as you point out doesn’t say nary a word when the Taliban deliberately murders children is quite pathetic.

140 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:57:10pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Greenwald focuses on US crimes”?

WTF is that supposed to mean?

141 darthstar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:58:16pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…

[Embedded content]

Taken out of context, “Fuck him and the Star Ledger” might not sound all that positive. But if you put it in context - there was a genuine effort to reach out and communicate and this was the response…well…I guess it still doesn’t sound all that good.

142 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 4:58:38pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…

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I am going to enjoy seeing Christie’s long term aspirations be ruined but I feel bad for New Jerseyians that they have this dickhead as a governor. He puts on a good face for the media but I think he’s one of the biggest dicks in the GOP and that’s saying something.

143 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:01:51pm

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

“Greenwald focuses on US crimes”?

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Anything the U.S. does is a crime, even when it isn’t. This is the logic of GG. Pretty much along the same lines that anything PBO does is a crime, even when it isn’t (ACA) according to the RWNJ’s.

In other words, projection and circular logic.

144 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:03:12pm

Why do I have the feeling that Greenwald’s one of these guys that agrees with the people who complain about Dresden but don’t say a word about Axis war crimes in WWII? Not a Godwin or intended to be but it seems to me that GG is a guy who only finds fault with US/Western policy.

145 AlexRogan  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:04:44pm

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

“Greenwald focuses on US crimes”?

WTF is that supposed to mean?

An admission from a GG fanboi that GG’s “mission” is not spotlighting bad decisions and policies of the US government, it’s to actively undermine and directly affect any foreign policy or domestic LE actions of the US government.

GG isn’t a journalist, he’s an activist with an agenda.

146 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:05:13pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

There’s Hate Mail in the previous thread at #63. It’s a goodie baddie.

Yeah, that’s worth 2014’s first tipjar visit.

147 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:07:20pm

Hahaha.

Image: can_you_read_this.png

148 bratwurst  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:07:50pm

re: #119 b_sharp

Just to add my $.02.

Ronald Reagan did not end the USSR.

One of the hardcore right wingers we used to have around here once made a post detailing her recollections of how President Ronald Reagan reacted to the fall of the Berlin Wall…10 months after he was out of office. I am not exaggerating.

149 jamesfirecat  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:08:52pm

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

Hahaha.

Image: can_you_read_this.png

Huh for what it’s worth I can read that just fine.

150 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:09:17pm

re: #143 Bubblehead II

Anything the U.S. does is a crime, even when it isn’t. This is the logic of GG. Pretty much along the same lines that anything PBO does is a crime, even when it isn’t (ACA) according to the RWNJ’s.

In other words, projection and circular logic.

It’s like American Exceptionalism, but backwards. Rather than whatever the US does being okay because we’re uniquely good, in GG’s mind whatever the US does is bad because we’re uniquely bad.

151 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:10:25pm

re: #150 GeneJockey

It’s like American Exceptionalism, but backwards. Rather than whatever the US does being okay because we’re uniquely good, in GG’s mind whatever the US does is bad because we’re uniquely bad.

Yep it’s the twin of “America fuck yeah.”

152 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:10:27pm

re: #149 jamesfirecat

Huh for what it’s worth I can read that just fine.

You have a strange mind if you can do what 55% of people can do? IMO, you have a strange mind if you think it’s strange to be able to do what most people can do.

153 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:10:54pm

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Yep it’s the twin of “America fuck yeah.”

“American, Fuck You”?

154 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:11:02pm

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

Hahaha.

Image: can_you_read_this.png

great moendz thgggbh asdhsafg brtzzz

155 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:12:14pm

re: #148 bratwurst

One of the hardcore right wingers we used to have around here once made a post detailing her recollections of how President Ronald Reagan reacted to the fall of the Berlin Wall…10 months after he was out of office. I am not exaggerating.

More like 22 months.

156 The War TARDIS  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:12:23pm

re: #153 GeneJockey

And yet, he still uses our various services.

He can fuck off. Brazil can have him.

157 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:13:32pm

re: #153 GeneJockey

“American, Fuck You”?

Ha twins do typically have similar sounding names so yes.

158 bratwurst  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:13:41pm

re: #155 b_sharp

More like 22 months.

Check your math. :)

Reagan left office in January of 1989, the Wall came down in November, 1989.

159 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:14:11pm

re: #149 jamesfirecat

Huh for what it’s worth I can read that just fine.

Anyone should be able to whiz right through it. The reason why is contained in it.

160 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:14:34pm

re: #158 bratwurst

Check your math. :)

Reagan was out in Jan of 1989. The wall came down in Oct of 1990.

161 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:14:37pm

You know, I don’t even mind GG’s criticism of US policy in general. What I have a problem with are his selective outrages and narrative that only the US spies on its allies. He’s presenting a very simplistic and dishonest vision of what international relations actually entails and it’s leading to stupid paranoia.

162 bratwurst  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:15:05pm

re: #160 b_sharp

The wall came down in Oct of 1990.

False, wrong month and year.

163 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:16:19pm

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

Hahaha.

Image: can_you_read_this.png

Reads like alot of post I’ve seen on some RWNJ blogs.

BTW, Diary of Dorkas (one of the fever swamps) is no longer online.

Not Found

The requested URL / was not found on this server.

Apache/2.2.23 (CentOS) Server at diaryofdaedalus.com Port 80

Good ridance to bad rubish.

164 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:16:31pm

The next New Yorker cover:

165 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:16:53pm

Know Your Hater

Democrats have a constituency - the crazy, the lazy, the moochers, socialistss, sexual deviates, racists, criminals and America haters.

And they serve them well.

Republicans have a constiuency - the RINOs, the democrat lites, the constitutionalists, conservatives and patriots.

But they are embarrased by the last three and do not serve us well.

In fact, they don’t serve us hardly at all.

Until the republican party stops trying to out pander the democrat party and embraces conservatives they will not compete successfully with democrats on the national level.

well, i’m definitely crazy…

166 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:16:55pm

Via TPM: Free Lunch

Georgia GOPer Attacking Free School Lunch Expensed $4,200 In Meals

talkingpointsmemo.com

167 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:16:58pm

re: #160 b_sharp

Reagan was out in Jan of 1989. The wall came down in Oct of 1990.

I thought it was ‘89. When Gorby spoke at my campus, it was 2009 and it was in recognition of it being 20 years since the Wall came down. I think it was October though.

168 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:17:23pm

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Via TPM: Free Lunch

Georgia GOPer Attacking Free School Lunch Expensed $4,200 In Meals

talkingpointsmemo.com

That’s what we call a fucking hypocritical douche, Billy.

169 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:18:09pm

I’d say the worst problem I have with GG is that he makes me want to defend things I don’t like, because he’s such a flaming asshole.

You have to be on your guard to ensure you don’t support or oppose things simply because those who oppose or support them (respectively) are awful people.

170 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:18:51pm

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

Hahaha.

Image: can_you_read_this.png

Heh.

I had no problem reading it; somewhat humorous.

171 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:19:00pm

re: #145 AlexRogan

An admission from a GG fanboi that GG’s “mission” is not spotlighting bad decisions and policies of the US government, it’s to actively undermine and directly affect any foreign policy or domestic LE actions of the US government.

GG isn’t a journalist, he’s an activist with an agenda.

Yeah, thanks for pointing it out, but he just becomes more loathsome every single day.

If he hates this country so much, why doesn’t he just renounce his citizenship?

172 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:19:34pm

re: #133 b_sharp

We sure get a lot of gifts when there isn’t an election to worry about.

Free stuff! Bunch of takers, the lot of you.

173 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:19:41pm

re: #169 GeneJockey

I’d say the worst problem I have with GG is that he makes me want to defend things I don’t like, because he’s such a flaming asshole.

You have to be on your guard to ensure you don’t support or oppose things simply because those who oppose or support them (respectively) are awful people.

Too true. In fact, this is the main reason I have little to say on the Snowden/GG threads here.

174 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:19:42pm

re: #165 dog philosopher

Know Your Hater

Democrats have a constituency - the crazy, the lazy, the moochers, socialistss, sexual deviates, racists, criminals and America haters.

And they serve them well.

Republicans have a constiuency - the RINOs, the democrat lites, the constitutionalists, conservatives and patriots.

But they are embarrased by the last three and do not serve us well.

In fact, they don’t serve us hardly at all.

Until the republican party stops trying to out pander the democrat party and embraces conservatives they will not compete successfully with democrats on the national level.

well, i’m definitely crazy…

He forgot “deviated preverts”.

Col. “Bat” Guano will be most unhappy.

175 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:20:05pm

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I had no problem reading it; somewhat humorous.

I want a bumper sticker that’s printed backwards saying,

IF YOU CAN READ THIS, I’M TOO CLOSE

176 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:20:12pm

re: #162 bratwurst

False, wrong month and year.

The gates were opened in Nov 1989.
People took chunks of the wall in 1989 and early 1990.
The wall was demolished in late 1990.

177 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:21:15pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

The next New Yorker cover:

[Embedded image]

I like Christie’s elephant shaped hairdo…

178 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:21:41pm

re: #163 Bubblehead II

Reads like alot of post I’ve seen on some RWNJ blogs.

BTW, Diary of Dorkas (one of the fever swamps) is no longer online.

Not Found

The requested URL / was not found on this server.

Apache/2.2.23 (CentOS) Server at diaryofdaedalus.com Port 80

Good ridance to bad rubish.

Fever swamps? Haha, don’t know what that is. My grandson showed me that (FB post, again) and said he could read it better than regular text. He’s dyslexic.

179 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:21:54pm

re: #150 GeneJockey

It’s like American Exceptionalism, but backwards. Rather than whatever the US does being okay because we’re uniquely good, in GG’s mind whatever the US does is bad because we’re uniquely bad.

Yep, if America has anything to with it, it’s automaticaly bad because of his hatred for America.

Just out of curouisty, what is his basic reason for this hatred of the U.S anyway?

180 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:22:03pm

Captain Christie. Iceberg! Dead Ahead!

181 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:22:19pm

I could point out to that guy on Twitter that I didn’t say what he attributed to me (“if someone else kills children it’s perfectly ok for USA to kill children”), but I’ve learned that when they start out like that it’s almost always a waste of time to discuss any further.

182 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:22:50pm

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

Anyone should be able to whiz right through it. The reason why is contained in it.

I stumbled over “important”. Time to get the ol’ brain adjusted.

183 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:23:10pm

re: #180 lawhawk

That’s kind of a spooky picture.

184 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:23:12pm

re: #176 b_sharp

The gates were opened in Nov 1989.
People took chunks of the wall in 1989 and early 1990.
The wall was demolished in late 1990.

I was there in ‘93 and took a chunk. A small chunk.

‘89 counts as the wall ‘coming down’, because it no longer kept the easterners from heading west.

185 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:23:55pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

The next New Yorker cover:

[Embedded image]

The second car from the Right is a Citroen. AFAIK, they don’t sell them here, even in oh-so-cosmopolitan New York. Is it possible this cartoon was offshored?
////

186 AlexRogan  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:24:26pm

re: #171 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, thanks for pointing it out, but he just becomes more loathsome every single day.

If he hates this country so much, why doesn’t he just renounce his citizenship?

Because my guess is that, in GG’s fevered mind, he’d lose any “moral superiority” he think he has if he were to renounce his US citizenship.

187 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:24:36pm

re: #184 wrenchwench

I was there in ‘93 and took a chunk. A small chunk.

‘89 counts as the wall ‘coming down’, because it no longer kept the easterners from heading west.

Gotcha.
I stand corrected then.
Well, sit really.

188 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:25:28pm

re: #169 GeneJockey

I’d say the worst problem I have with GG is that he makes me want to defend things I don’t like, because he’s such a flaming asshole.

You have to be on your guard to ensure you don’t support or oppose things simply because those who oppose or support them (respectively) are awful people.

Dude he makes me feel like a national security hawk when I am in reality merely someone who has read a lot about foreign policy.

189 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:26:25pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Dude he makes me feel like a national security hawk when I am in reality merely someone who has read a lot about foreign policy.

Gawd, I know the feeling. : )

190 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:26:52pm

re: #186 AlexRogan

Because my guess is that, in GG’s fevered mind, he’d lose any “moral superiority” he think he has if he were to renounce his US citizenship.

Plus it would be harder for people to use him in arguments as ‘Even-the-Liberal Glen Greenwald’, if he just made himself a furriner. Now he can pretend his shit is ‘More In Sorrow Than In Anger’.

191 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:27:23pm

I really don’t understand what about Glenn Greenwald inspires this rabid devotion among the dudebros. Can’t be his sparkling personality.

Guess they just admire assholes.

192 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:28:12pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

I really don’t understand what about Glenn Greenwald inspires this rabid devotion among the dudebros. Can’t be his sparkling personality.

Guess they just admire assholes.

He’s fighting for our freedom, man!

193 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:28:43pm

re: #192 GeneJockey

He’s fighting for our freedom, man!

He rubs their freedom boner.

194 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:28:47pm
195 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:29:20pm

re: #189 Justanotherhuman

Gawd, I know the feeling. : )

Yep and it’s also why I hate talking foreign policy with Ron Paul fans. Made the mistake of telling one of them in ;’08 that you can’t claim that the Founding Fathers would be anti-internationalist since it’s a different world in 2008 than it was in the late 1700’s. And hell given that Barbary Wars, they weren’t Paul style isolationists at all when it came to FP.

196 AlexRogan  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:30:08pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

I could point out to that guy on Twitter that I didn’t say what he attributed to me (“if someone else kills children it’s perfectly ok for USA to kill children”), but I’ve learned that when they start out like that it’s almost always a waste of time to discuss any further.

And when you punch the eject button so that you don’t get sucked in further into their “discussion”, they then tend to declare victory.

Naked, unabashed vacuousness in full effect.

197 bratwurst  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:30:18pm

re: #184 wrenchwench

I was there in ‘93 and took a chunk. A small chunk.

‘89 counts as the wall ‘coming down’, because it no longer kept the easterners from heading west.

I was studying German in college as preparation for my first ever trip over there as I watched easterners celebrating on top of the thing in late 1989. A few months later I was over there having a life changing experience. As was this was before reunification, I and my classmates got a definite taste of what life was like in the east as we visited Leipzig and Dresden. We were…uh…happy to get back to West Berlin.

198 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:31:03pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

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It interests me considering that over 75% of my country wasn’t here then and the war happened not even 75 years after the Constitution was ratified.

199 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:31:21pm

re: #179 Bubblehead II

Yep, if America has anything to with it, it’s automaticaly bad because of his hatred for America.

Just out of curouisty, what is his basic reason for this hatred of the U.S anyway?

It’s basically childish behavior by GG. Some time ago, my sister had just finished reading “Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee” and had lapsed into a mindless anti-American, pro-Soviet position as a result.

In her defense, she was probably 15 or so at the time, and a brief review of the Soviet Gulag and Stalin’s various modes of entertainment corrected the problem.

GG should know better than this.

200 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:31:47pm

re: #184 wrenchwench

I was there in ‘93 and took a chunk. A small chunk.

‘89 counts as the wall ‘coming down’, because it no longer kept the easterners from heading west.

Quite Concur. Removing the various sections of the barrier took months, but the opening of the wall’s gates in November of 1989 marked the end of the Berlin Wall for all intents and purposes.

201 dog philosopher  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:32:05pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

The next New Yorker cover:

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what’s up with the citroen in the front row??? as far as i know, nobody has onna them over here…

202 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:33:54pm

re: #196 AlexRogan

And when you punch the eject button so that you don’t get sucked in further into their “discussion”, they then tend to declare victory.

Naked, unabashed vacuousness in full effect.

As in, I made Charles Johnson tuck tail and run!.

You gotta be careful. I stayed on the Bowsite for way longer than I should, just because I didn’t want to be seen as running away. Finally I realized that there was nobody there, or even lurking, whose image of me mattered, or if it did, they’d been telling me to stop wrassling the pig for months.

203 thecommodore  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:34:55pm

re: #24 Ian G.

“States rights” means “whatever the fuck the reactionaries want”. C’mon, do you think South Carolina was in favor of “states rights” when it applied to New York or Massachusetts ignoring federal fugitive slaves laws? That was one of their grievances upon seceding.

THE SOUTH SECEDED BECAUSE OF THE MORILL TARIFF ONLY 6% OF SOUTHERNERS OWNED SLAVES BLACKS FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY SO SLAVERY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!1!1!1!1!1

204 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:35:42pm

Who the hell would wear these except the tackiest fake politician in US history?

Image: BdpQomNCMAA-FLO.jpg

205 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:36:56pm

re: #203 thecommodore

THE SOUTH SECEDED BECAUSE OF THE MORILL TARIFF ONLY 6% OF SOUTHERNERS OWNED SLAVES BLACKS FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY SO SLAVERY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!1!1!1!1!1

Pay no attention to the cornerstone speech, or to the constitution of the CSA. Liberal plants were responsible for the pro-slavery sentiments in these documents.

206 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:37:58pm

re: #203 thecommodore

THE SOUTH SECEDED BECAUSE OF THE MORILL TARIFF ONLY 6% OF SOUTHERNERS OWNED SLAVES BLACKS FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY SO SLAVERY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!1!1!1!1!1

I had a wingnut once tell me that Slavery wasn’t a racist institution because some blacks owned slaves. I asked if any of the slaves they owned, or indeed ANYONE owned were white.

That shut him up.

Briefly.

207 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:38:58pm

re: #178 Justanotherhuman

Fever swamps? Haha, don’t know what that is. My grandson showed me that (FB post, again) and said he could read it better than regular text. He’s dyslexic.

Fever Swamp(s) refer to the blogs that came into existance after the great meltdown of 2009. Their sole reason for existing was as a gathering place for those who either got outright banned for blatant racist posts or “flounced” because of the political turn LGF took.

Their sole purpose was to ridicule and even stalk Lizards who refused to agree with them. Charles, of course being their main target. Most of them have been, like DoD, swept away into the dust bin of history.

Did I miss anything Lizards?

208 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:39:04pm

re: #201 dog philosopher

what’s up with the citroen in the front row??? as far as i know, nobody has onna them over here…

9 minutes.

re: #185 GeneJockey

The second car from the Right is a Citroen. AFAIK, they don’t sell them here, even in oh-so-cosmopolitan New York. Is it possible this cartoon was offshored?
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209 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:39:46pm

re: #206 GeneJockey

I had a wingnut once tell me that Slavery wasn’t a racist institution because some blacks owned slaves. I asked if any of the slaves they owned, or indeed ANYONE owned were white.

That shut him up.

Briefly.

Wow. Did you get a picture of this loon so you could caption it: “Dumbest mouthbreather in the nation”?

210 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:39:53pm

re: #205 EPR-radar

Pay no attention to the cornerstone speech, or to the constitution of the CSA. Liberal plants were responsible for the pro-slavery sentiments in these documents.

And then there’s the “Slavery would have faded out in the new Confederacy anyway!”

211 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:40:48pm

re: #207 Bubblehead II

Fever Swamp(s) refer to the blogs that came into existance after the great meltdown of 2009. Their sole reason for existing was as a gathering place for those who either got outright banned for blatant racist posts or “flounced” because of the political turn LGF took.

Their sole purpose was to ridicule and even stalk Lizards who refused to agree with them. Charles, of course being their main target. Most of them have been, like DoD, swept away into the dust bin of history.

Did I miss anything Lizards?

OK, thanks. That was “before my time” at LGF. : )

212 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:41:40pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

Thanks. It’s just a black and white filter, looking south from Hoboken Terminal towards Exchange Place. Very low cloud deck and foggy with a mist. Visibility of about a 1/4 mile.

213 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:42:07pm

re: #209 EPR-radar

Wow. Did you get a picture of this loon so you could caption it: “Dumbest mouthbreather in the nation”?

Funny thing is, he’s not stupid. He’s just the guy whose picture should go in the Dictionary as the exemplar of Confirmation Bias - it sounded good to him, so he didn’t even think about it.

The same guy told me that Thomas Jefferson didn’t bang Sally Hemings, it was his brother Randolph. I said, “So what? HE OWNED SLAVES!!!”

214 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:43:44pm

re: #207 Bubblehead II

Fever Swamp(s) refer to the blogs that came into existance after the great meltdown of 2009. Their sole reason for existing was as a gathering place for those who either got outright banned for blatant racist posts or “flounced” because of the political turn LGF took.

Their sole purpose was to ridicule and even stalk Lizards who refused to agree with them. Charles, of course being their main target. Most of them have been, like DoD, swept away into the dust bin of history.

Did I miss anything Lizards?

Non that’s pretty accurate.

215 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:44:10pm

re: #213 GeneJockey

Funny thing is, he’s not stupid. He’s just the guy whose picture should go in the Dictionary as the exemplar of Confirmation Bias - it sounded good to him, so he didn’t even think about it.

The same guy told me that Thomas Jefferson didn’t bang Sally Hemings, it was his brother Randolph. I said, “So what? HE OWNED SLAVES!!!”

Ah. Willful stupidity. I tend to be more irritated by willful stupidity than by involuntary stupidity.

216 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:45:58pm

Moving Upstairs.

217 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:46:01pm

re: #203 thecommodore

THE SOUTH SECEDED BECAUSE OF THE MORILL TARIFF ONLY 6% OF SOUTHERNERS OWNED SLAVES BLACKS FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY SO SLAVERY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!1!1!1!1!1

It’s worth remembering that the Morill Tarriff only passed the Senate after the first wave of Southern states seceded. They could have blocked it had they stayed, but the hysteria and butthurt in the South had reached the point of overwhelming all reason.

218 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:47:00pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

It’s worth remembering that the Morill Tarriff only passed the Senate after the first wave of Southern states seceded. They could have blocked it had they stayed, but the hysteria and butthurt in the South had reached the point of overwhelming all reason.

Obama’s time machine at work again, reversing causality!

219 GeneJockey  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 5:51:42pm

re: #201 dog philosopher

what’s up with the citroen in the front row??? as far as i know, nobody has onna them over here…

BTW, the reason I recognized it is that my Dad owns a Citroen. Got his first one in 1971. Picked it up at the Factory in Paris, on a one-month vacation in France and Spain. I got to drive it a lot as a teenager.

When it rusted out, his Cit mechanic found him the 1972 DS21 Pallas from a Southern state, which he drove for years, and which now sits moldering in the garage, under an ever-increasing coating of dust and barnswallow poop.

220 Joanne  Fri, Jan 10, 2014 6:19:42pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Dude he makes me feel like a national security hawk when I am in reality merely someone who has read a lot about foreign policy.

And when I find myself agreeing with *anything* Bolton or Krystal says…that’s on Greenwald. And I hate him for that.


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