Gohmert! - Judges Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage Need ‘Plumbing Lessons’

By Clare Kim
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Texas Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert told federal judges who’ve ruled in favor of same-sex marriage to get “some basic plumbing lessons.”

During an event titled “Conversations with Conservatives” hosted by the Heritage Foundation Wednesday, Rep. Gohmert was asked about the federal judge’s ruling that struck down Oklahoma’s ban on same-sex nuptials, declaring it unconstitutional.

Gohmert characterized rulings that allow marriage equality as: “Basically, we haven’t seen any biological evidence to support marriage being between a man and a woman,” Roll Call reported.

Gohmert said those judges “need some basic plumbing lessons,” according to a report from Raw Story. “For one omnipotent, omniscious, ubiquitous federal judge who is wise beyond his education to say - to make such a declaration about the law, I think, requires revisiting by each state and compliance with the U.S. Supreme Court.”

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1 Joanne  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:00:14am

Hey, Louie. The toilet in my downstairs bathroom needs some help. When can I expect you and your plumbing expertise to arrive?

2 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:07:34am

Because marriage is all about sex -you know …

*facepalm*

3 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:12:27am

re: #2 FemNaziBitch

Because marriage is all about sex -you know …

*facepalm*

The GOP prefers to call it “legitimate rape”.

4 BusyMonster  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:53:58am

So women aren’t people. They’re plumbing.

Republicans; nobody but we are real people.

5 calochortus  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:22:07am

Now, now. It is kind and thoughtful of Gohmert to let gays know that they really aren’t in satisfying relationships because of the “plumbing” involved. If he didn’t tell them, how would they know they weren’t in a happy fulfilling relationship?
/ / (do I really need to?)

6 thecommodore  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:33:21am

re: #5 calochortus

Now, now. It is kind and thoughtful of Gohmert to let gays know that they really aren’t in satisfying relationships because of the “plumbing” involved. If he didn’t tell them, how would they know they weren’t in a happy fulfilling relationship?
/ / (do I really need to?)

*ping*

7 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:17:13am

I wonder if the legitimate-rape shutoff is a ball valve or a butterfly type.

So many questions for the Noted and Distinguished Statesman from Texas.

9 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:18:06am

If Gohmert was really worried about “plumbing lessons”, you would think he would be more supportive of comprehensive sex education in schools.

10 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:18:50am

re: #8 Dr. Matt

And this……

Fox’s Keith Ablow: Trans people only exist as part of liberal plot to steal your rights

Keith Ablow needs to be thrown out of the building.

Escorting him to the ground floor would be optional.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:19:40am

The RWNJS are really in a corner on this one. Sure they can try to claim man/woman marriage should be the only choice because only hetero couples can have kids, but then what about hetero couples who do not want to or are physically unable to procreate? Either you don’t want those marriages to be legal or you need to accept procreation is not the be all, end of all of marriage.

12 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:20:11am

re: #8 Dr. Matt

And this……

Fox’s Keith Ablow: Trans people only exist as part of liberal plot to steal your rights

I’m usually not a violent person, but I’d love to slap the shit out of Keith Ablow.

13 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:20:22am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m usually not a violent person, but I’d love to slap the shit out of Keith Ablow.

I’ll help…..

14 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:20:44am

re: #10 Kragar

Keith Ablow needs to be thrown out of the building.

Escorting him to the ground floor would be optional.

No options in this case!

I’ve never read much about him. Does he actually practice or was his license taken away for being a quack?

15 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:23:02am

re: #7 erik_t

I wonder if the legitimate-rape shutoff is a ball valve or a butterfly type.

So many questions for the Noted and Distinguished Statesman from Texas.

Ball valve, with a ballcock of course. /need I?

16 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:23:14am

HURR HURR TEH SATANIC ACTIVIST JUDGES IS DENYING WE TEH PEOPLE ARE RITES TO DENY TEH BIG GHEY THERE RITES!!!!1!!!111!!!!

17 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:23:16am

re: #14 ObserverArt

No options in this case!

I’ve never read much about him. Does he actually practice or was his license taken away for being a quack?

Still has a license I believe

Keith Ablow

In April 2011, Ablow wrote a health column for FoxNews.com[15] which criticized designer Jenna Lyons for publishing an advertisement in the J. Crew catalogue in which she was depicted painting her young son’s toenails hot pink. Ablow wrote that gender distinctions are “part of the magnificent synergy that creates and sustains the human race”. The column sparked a controversy around his claims that painting a child’s toenails pink could have an effect on their gender identity and led to accusations of overreaction, as was reported upon by numerous news media sources.[16][17][18][19] Ablow refused to back down, even re-posting the column on his Facebook page.

During the 2012 Republican primary, Ablow wrote a column arguing that Newt Gingrich’s three marriages actually made him more qualified to be president. He wrote: “When three women want to sign on for life with a man who is now running for president, I worry more about whether we’ll be clamoring for a third Gingrich term, not whether we’ll want to let him go after one.”[20] The column was criticized, with Rod Dreher of The American Conservative commenting thusly: “Oh for frack’s sake. At some point, you have to wonder when shamelessness crosses the line from character defect to psychopathology. If only Dr. Leo Spaceman were a Republican, he could have a lucrative career on Fox.”[21]

Dr. Ablow later clarified that his position was that one’s private sexual life should remain private and that dissecting the sex lives of public figures was counterproductive and salacious.

While providing Fox News television “medical analysis” of the October 11th, 2012 Vice Presidential debate, Ablow strongly and repeatedly suggested that some of Vice President Joe Biden’s behaviors, such as interruptions of the opposing candidate and what he believed to be excessive laughter, might mean that he should be evaluated for dementia, alcoholism, or other conditions.[22] “I’m not diagnosing him,” he clarified. “I haven’t evaluated him. But psychological testing - It’s anyone’s guess what it would show.” Psychologist John Grohol questioned Ablow’s ethical behavior in an article on Psych Central, a website he created for the accurate dissemination of authoritative mental health information to the public. Citing Section 7, Article 3 of the APA’s “Principles of Medical Ethics…,”[23] he accused Ablow of a double standard.[24] “He prefaces his comments with a standard disclaimer media doctors often try to use to make it sound more ethical. Dr. Keith Ablow acknowledges he’s never seen Joe Biden in a professional capacity. Yet, Dr. Ablow is discussing differential diagnoses about Biden as though he had…Would anyone feel comfortable being judged by a medical professional like Dr. Ablow based upon a single incident like this?” At the time of Dr. Ablow’s comments, however, he was no longer affiliated with the APA and not technically bound to its ethical standards.

18 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:23:36am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

I’ll help…..

You have my sword.

/

19 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:24:04am

re: #18 Targetpractice

You have my sword.

/

And my axe!

20 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:24:24am

And a pie in the face!

21 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:25:05am

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

Defying federal judges and authority? Yeah, that’s TOTALLY constitutional!

22 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:25:09am

re: #19 Pie-onist Overlord

And my axe!

I’ll get the catapult

23 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:25:16am

Depending on the source, the LGBT community comprises 3 to 7% of the US population while divorce occurs in 50% of marriages. Both are “sins”, yet RWNJs only worry about the former. *Paging Dr. Freud*

24 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:28:15am

re: #23 Dr. Matt

I would think the LGBT community would be larger.

25 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:28:59am

Why not a catapult?

Image: catapult1.gif

26 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:30:35am
Basically, we haven’t seen any biological evidence to support marriage being between a man and a woman.

What the fuck does this even mean? Marriage is entirely a social construct. A man could easily pass his genes on by raping as many women as he sees. That’s biologically sound, but socially unacceptable, so human societies have developed things like marriage to add some stability to the whole thing. Now that we’re living in 21st century America, and not 4th century BCE Israel, we’ve tweaked the social construct a bit to include homosexuals. This isn’t hard, Louie.

Honestly, I think reading Gomer is bad for one’s health. Prolonged exposure can cause brain damage.

27 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:30:51am
28 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:30:59am

re: #23 Dr. Matt

Depending on the source, the LGBT community comprises 3 to 7% of the US population while divorce occurs in 50% of marriages. Both are “sins”, yet RWNJs only worry about the former. *Paging Dr. Freud*

They’d want to see no-fault eliminated too. Back to the bad old day of for-cause divorce where you’d have to prove cruel and inhuman treatment,
abandonment for a continuous period of one year or more, imprisonment for more than three years subsequent to the marriage, or adultery. Very tough to accomplish, but left lots of people in dangerous and/or unloving situations.

My gut feeling says Fischer wants to go back even further to considering women to be property of their spouses. But he’s not going to come out and say that explicitly. The signs are there though.

29 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:31:31am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

I’ll help…..

Just put him in this seat…

Youtube Video

30 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:31:39am

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

I would think the LGBT community would be larger.

I have yet to find recent published sources that exceed these values. I would venture that these values are still conservative because of potential reporting biases, study design issues, etc.

31 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:31:55am

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

The RWNJS are really in a corner on this one. Sure they can try to claim man/woman marriage should be the only choice because only hetero couples can have kids, but then what about hetero couples who do not want to or are physically unable to procreate? Either you don’t want those marriages to be legal or you need to accept procreation is not the be all, end of all of marriage.

Exactly the strategy that lost the issue for the RWNJs in New Mexico.

32 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:31:58am

re: #27 Kragar

They do realize that the Daleks are the bad guys and ultimately lose to the Doctor? Taking your cues from the bad guy is never a good sign.

33 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:32:27am

re: #30 Dr. Matt

I have yet to find recent published sources that exceed these values. I would venture that these values are still conservative because of potential reporting biases, study design issues, etc.

People not wishing to honestly answer the questions.

34 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:34:08am

re: #32 lawhawk

They do realize that the Daleks are the bad guys and ultimately lose to the Doctor? Taking your cues from the bad guy is never a good sign.

THAT IS RACIST!

35 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:36:34am

re: #33 Kragar

People not wishing to honestly answer the questions.

Lots of fear—of being “found out” by someone you don’t want to know; losing a job, losing housing, loss of a lot of things, not to mention that polls themselves are not exclusively treated as private information that won’t be sold to a third party.

I can understand why people wouldn’t want to be forthcoming with what some consider to be rather intimate information about themselves, information that could possibly be used against them. That’s what actual oppressive laws can do to people.

36 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:37:03am

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

37 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:37:38am

Wow, the article is accompanied by a photo of Gohmert giving actual plumbing lessons! From 1860, of course.

38 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:38:05am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

He’s the Larry the Cable guy of the House?

39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:38:13am

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Personally, I didn’t marry my wife in order to procreate and we’re both on the fence about having kids (sometimes we want them, then we see other people’s kids) so for us it was, first and foremost about wanting to be together and married because we loved one another.

If a marriage is supposed to be all about having kids and my marriage (under that scenario) I am just glad I don’t live in states where they’ve even tried to push laws that unwed couples can’t live together.

40 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:38:31am

re: #38 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, someone has to graduate at the bottom of the class.

41 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:38:39am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Where did he get them from?

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:38:46am

Bryan Fischer is Exhibit A for the argument that “Tartuffe” is a word that really should be included more and more in modern conversation.

43 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:40:11am

re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Personally, I didn’t marry my wife in order to procreate and we’re both on the fence about having kids (sometimes we want them, then we see other people’s kids) so for us it was, first and foremost about wanting to be together and married because we loved one another.

If a marriage is supposed to be all about having kids and my marriage (under that scenario) I am just glad I don’t live in states where they’ve even tried to push laws that unwed couples can’t live together.

Oh, that last thing was pretty rampant when I was a young woman. You could not rent a place if you were simply living together, and having a “friend” of the opposite sex staying overnight could get you evicted.

44 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:40:51am

re: #40 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, someone has to graduate at the bottom of the class.

e.g., John McCain

45 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:40:59am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

HEY!!!

46 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:41:36am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

Texas A&M and Baylor. Basically, that’s a poetry degree from MIT.

47 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:41:36am

re: #41 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Where did he get them from?

A&M and Baylor. Weird Dog Cult U and a religious institution.

So…

48 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:42:23am

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

Oh, that last thing was pretty rampant when I was a young woman. You could not rent a place if you were simply living together, and having a “friend” of the opposite sex staying overnight could get you evicted.

I heard some states/cities/towns were trying to revive those laws to force people to get married if they wanted to live together. It boggles my mind. Honestly, marriage is great, but being in a non-binding relationship has its advantages.

49 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:42:36am

re: #41 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Where did he get them from?

Texas A&M on an Army scholarship; then Baylor Law School (class president).

50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:42:36am

re: #47 erik_t

A&M and Baylor. Weird Dog Cult U and a religious institution.

So…

That explains everything.

51 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:42:50am

re: #47 erik_t

A&M and Baylor. Weird Dog Cult U and a religious institution.

So…

Less than a second. Up your typing drills.

52 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:43:04am

All Gohmert’s talk of plumbing just shows what a prudish twit he is.

Ever heard of Texan foreplay?
“BRACE YOURSELF!”

Gohmert was having sex with his wife when he stopped and asked her “Are you OK?”
“I’m fine. What’s wrong?”
“You moved.”

53 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:43:28am

Oh and just a little tooting my own horn. Haven’t smoked a cigarette in 9 months. Granted I am a vaping fiend but feel sooooo much better.

54 nines09  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:44:05am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

Apparently he’s hit his head quite hard numerous times since then.

55 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:45:23am

re: #47 erik_t

A&M and Baylor. Weird Dog Cult U and a religious institution.

So…

Which is which?

////

56 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:45:56am

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

Texas A&M on an Army scholarship; then Baylor Law School (class president).

Baylor’s ranked 54th in US News for top law schools. It’s a very good program. He’s just a despicable person who embodies every negative connotation of what a lawyer is - someone without morals, ethics, or compassion.

57 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:46:11am

re: #48 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I heard some states/cities/towns were trying to revive those laws to force people to get married if they wanted to live together. It boggles my mind. Honestly, marriage is great, but being in a non-binding relationship has its advantages.

There’s a lot of reactionaries out there just salivating at the prospect of repealing the Twentieth Century everything that happened after the Enlightenment.

58 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:50:04am

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Texas A&M and Baylor. Basically, that’s a poetry degree from MIT.

ok, I’ve got to object (though I appreciate the humor).

See, I’ve met too many graduates of MIT for me to hold it in such esteem. Basically it’s the fact it’s a history degree. That has and had this bad habit of being a ‘let’s get by’ course in almost every school - and yes I count MIT in that group. FWIW the schools that don’t seem to use it as a dump stat are the service academies.

Business administration, History, and English, all seem to hit this problem. There ARE programs that require extensive effort and push the need to understand the connections. They’re the exception.

59 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:50:33am


This can’t get resolved soon enough considering all the chicanery that the GOP has sought to enact the moment the Court ruled last year in Shelby County v. Holder.

60 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:50:39am

re: #56 lawhawk

Baylor’s ranked 54th in US News for top law schools. It’s a very good program. He’s just a despicable person who embodies every negative connotation of what a lawyer is - someone without morals, ethics, or compassion.

They’re very good at settling bonfire liability suits.

61 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:50:54am

Gohmert said those judges “need some basic

marriage is between one penis and one vagina?

62 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:51:27am

re: #59 lawhawk

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This can’t get resolved soon enough considering all the chicanery that the GOP has sought to enact the moment the Court ruled last year in Shelby County v. Holder.

My guess: If it’s any good it won’t pass.

63 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:51:40am
64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:51:43am

re: #61 dog philosopher

yes cuz anal sex is sodomy and sodomy is bad mmmmmk

65 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:51:43am

re: #59 lawhawk

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This can’t get resolved soon enough considering all the chicanery that the GOP has sought to enact the moment the Court ruled last year in Shelby County v. Holder.

I see I’ll have to get my barrel ready for the ocean of wingnut tears.

66 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:52:53am

re: #53 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh and just a little tooting my own horn. Haven’t smoked a cigarette in 9 months. Granted I am a vaping fiend but feel sooooo much better.

Congratulations!

67 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:53:00am

This really does show how desperate they’ve gotten to keep their bigotry alive as part of the law, that they can no longer argue on religious or moral grounds, so they’re left with trying to argue that marriage is to facilitate some biological role restricted solely to heterosexual couples. Hence why three judges now have gaveled in rulings saying such argues are bullshit.

68 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:54:12am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

I thought that was A&M.

69 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:54:56am

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

Ty!

70 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:55:07am

I’m sure if we just got Gohmert a few sessions with a decent German Femdom mistress we could work this whole thing out.

71 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:55:08am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

They’re very good at settling bonfire liability suits.

Hey-ooooooo…

72 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:55:42am

re: #70 Kragar

I’m sure if we just got Gohmert a few sessions with a decent German Femdom mistress we could work this whole thing out.

forget him, that’s a waste of a good german femdom Mistress!

73 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:55:47am

re: #68 lawhawk

I thought that was A&M.

Sorry—inverted them in the thread.

74 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:57:18am

re: #72 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

forget him, that’s a waste of a good german femdom Mistress!

Well, we could get a decent Ukranian one on standby I guess.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:57:26am
76 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:58:55am

re: #62 kirkspencer

Sensenbrenner is one of the sponsors, and he was useful in the last reauthorization by overwhelming majorities.

The bill is hardly perfect, but it’s a vast improvement over the current mess, which is allowing states to act without repercussion (sure, they can be sued to stop, but that means disenfranchisement until after the court rules against the state action). The VRA would put these kinds of actions on hold until after the courts got to decide whether they were legit or not - protecting the rights of potential voters in the process.

77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:00:01am

re: #74 Kragar

Well, we could get a decent Ukranian one on standby I guess.

I would have to test them out first. Good and decent are relative terms ;)

78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:01:02am

re: #74 Kragar

Well, we could get a decent Ukranian one on standby I guess.

we could just arrange to send him on a fact finding mission to OWK…

79 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:01:41am

re: #77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I would have to test them out first. Good and decent are relative terms ;)

how come i never get a chance to test out the ukranian mistresses??

80 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:01:58am

re: #67 Targetpractice

This really does show how desperate they’ve gotten to keep their bigotry alive as part of the law, that they can no longer argue on religious or moral grounds, so they’re left with trying to argue that marriage is to facilitate some biological role restricted solely to heterosexual couples. Hence why three judges now have gaveled in rulings saying such argues are bullshit.

Not just hetero couples, but only those couples of reproductive age and with functioning reproductive systems. That’s the path Gohmert is going down. Sure, he’d like to keep this to hetero couples, but the “plumbing” references ignore that there are plenty of hetero couples who can’t have kids for any number of reasons. Yet we don’t discriminate against their ability to be married and inure the benefits that accompany a civil marriage including tax and employee benefits (insurance, visitation rights, etc.)

81 BusyMonster  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:02:29am

re: Kragar

Keith Ablow needs to be thrown out of the building.

I love the English language, because of words like defenestration.

82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:02:31am

re: #79 dog philosopher

how come i never get a chance to test out the ukranian mistresses??

Ok I’ll take the german ones, I prefer them anyway hehe

83 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:03:21am

Meanwhile, a racist asshole in Italy puts on blackface in parliament to deliver an anti-immigration rant.

independent.co.uk

Mr. Buonanno is from the Northern League Party; they’re pretty well-known for their xenophobic rhetoric.

*headdesk*

84 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:03:24am

re: #79 dog philosopher

how come i never get a chance to test out the ukranian mistresses??

Never been to Pittsburgh? Twilight of the stereotypes.

85 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:04:27am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, a racist asshole in Italy puts on blackface in parliament to deliver an anti-immigration rant.

independent.co.uk

Mr. Buonanno is from the Northern League Party; they’re pretty well-known for their xenophobic rhetoric.

*headdesk*

That’s mild. They’re basically the Klan, and several of my neighbors were stalwarts.

86 BusyMonster  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:06:01am

re Justanotherhuman (#49)

You could not rent a place if you were simply living together, and having a “friend†of the opposite sex staying overnight could get you evicted.

When I was 20, I had just moved to Kentucky and tried to rent an apartment with my girlfriend. The first place we went, would not even consider doing such a thing.

The year was fucking 1989. Of course it was only later I found Mark Twain’s excellent quote explaining that for most of history, Kentucky has been 20 ass-backwards years behind everyone else.

I was shocked, but of course also that dumb place lost several thousand dollars’ worth of business.

87 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:06:46am

re: #68 lawhawk

I thought that was A&M.

I just moved to Houston shortly after the bonfire tragedy in College Station; there was non-stop coverage on the local stations for days and days. A year later when A&M decided that bonfire would no longer be allowed, there was a lot of uproar from students and alum. The school held a townhall forum to discuss their decision and allowed individuals to speak. One of the students got up to the microphone and proceeded to explain how life was not worth living if there was no bonfire. He even cried and screeched at the mic. True story.

That’s when I realized I moved to the wrong state.

88 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:06:53am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, a racist asshole in Italy puts on blackface in parliament to deliver an anti-immigration rant.

independent.co.uk

Mr. Buonanno is from the Northern League Party; they’re pretty well-known for their xenophobic rhetoric.

*headdesk*

I was in business school when Obama was elected in 2008. I remember a few of my classmates from India telling me that his election really made them realize how amazing a place America is. In their estimation, a dark-skinned man could never be elected prime minister or president in Europe.

Shit like this makes me understand where they were coming from.

89 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:07:15am

re: #26 Ian G.

What the fuck does this even mean? Marriage is entirely a social construct. A man could easily pass his genes on by raping as many women as he sees. That’s biologically sound, but socially unacceptable, so human societies have developed things like marriage to add some stability to the whole thing. Now that we’re living in 21st century America, and not 4th century BCE Israel, we’ve tweaked the social construct a bit to include homosexuals. This isn’t hard, Louie.

Honestly, I think reading Gomer is bad for one’s health. Prolonged exposure can cause brain damage.

Updinged, faved and quoted. The trifecta.

Nailed it right on the head.

90 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:08:14am

In NC, we call the State agricultural school (NC State) “Moo U”. Probably the same where you all live? It’s not as large as TAMU, which is the 4th largest U in the country, and which now surpasses an enrollment of 50K. Sounds like a real mill which also attracts conservative and religious matriculators and grinds ‘em out.

91 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:08:23am

re: #87 Dr. Matt

I just moved to Houston shortly after the bonfire tragedy in College Station; there was non-stop coverage on the local station for days and days. A year later when A&M decided that bonfire would no longer be allowed, there was a lot of uproar from students and alum. The school held a townhall forum to discuss their decision and allowed individuals to speak. One of the students got up to the microphone and proceeded explain how life was not worth living if there was no bonfire. He even cried and screeched at the mic. True story.

That’s when I realized I moved to the wrong state.

I read the official FAA-like report on the burn. Fucking disgrace for an engineering school.

92 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:09:26am

re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Personally, I didn’t marry my wife in order to procreate and we’re both on the fence about having kids (sometimes we want them, then we see other people’s kids) so for us it was, first and foremost about wanting to be together and married because we loved one another.

If a marriage is supposed to be all about having kids and my marriage (under that scenario) I am just glad I don’t live in states where they’ve even tried to push laws that unwed couples can’t live together.

I married my wife with the hopes we would one day have them (and now sometimes we don’t) ;)

93 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:09:33am

re: #91 Decatur Deb

I read the official FAA-like report on the burn. Fucking disgrace for an engineering school.

“Hey, it’s worked for fifty years, just a little bit bigger is probably fine!”

94 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:10:12am

re: #90 Justanotherhuman

Sounds like a real mill which also attracts conservative and religious matriculators and grinds ‘em out.

It wouldn’t surprise me if right-wing religious nuts tend to head for Texas A&M, given that UT is in the godless socialist hellhole that is Austin.

95 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:11:03am

And now, pige.

96 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:12:11am

Washington Waste Plumbung

97 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:12:41am
98 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:13:30am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m usually not a violent person, but I’d love to slap the shit out of Keith Ablow.

So, you’d strike Ablow for freedom?
//

99 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:13:48am

re: #79 dog philosopher

how come i never get a chance to test out the ukranian mistresses??

Seniority

100 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:14:28am

re: #94 Ian G.

It wouldn’t surprise me if right-wing religious nuts tend to head for Texas A&M, given that UT is in the godless socialist hellhole that is Austin.

A&M is a breeding ground for conservatives. Right before the 2000 elections I was on campus for a football game and the A&M College Republicans had a massive organizational effort with tents, presence everywhere, huge spread in the student union building….The A&M College Democrats was a single guy standing on a small ledge handing out pamphlets.

101 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:14:35am

re: #88 Ian G.

I was in business school when Obama was elected in 2008. I remember a few of my classmates from India telling me that his election really made them realize how amazing a place America is. In their estimation, a dark-skinned man could never be elected prime minister or president in Europe.

Shit like this makes me understand where they were coming from.

Many of my Czech students were of the same opinion - I asked them point-blank if a dark-skinned man (or woman) could be elected as President or PM here, and they universally answered no.

Granted, these were young people, and they thought President Obama’s election was a good and positive thing, but they regretted that in the Czech Republic, it would be likely impossible for something similar to happen, at least for the time being. Like one of them said, “Maybe in 50 years or so, but not now.”

102 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:16:01am
103 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:16:46am

HURR HURR!!!!11!!!

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:17:52am

HURR HURR!!!!11!!!!!

105 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:18:06am
106 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:20:10am

Breaking: 16 year old boy shot in St. Pete, FL at Lake Vista Park. Nearby high school is on lockdown.

107 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:20:29am

re: #100 Dr. Matt

Amazingly, it was like that 20 years ago when I went to Delaware. Had a Republican friend who was asked if he belonged to the College R’s. He said “No, they’re too mean.” The state was somewhat R then, with Biden in the Senate, Republican Roth in the Senate (of the Roth IRA), and the governorship flipping from term to term. State’s pretty solid Dem now with gay rights, too.

108 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:20:33am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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They have to reject evolution. If they weren’t created as per the Bible, they’re no longer special, and they lose their excuse for treating everyone and everything else in the world like shit.

109 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:20:39am

Utahans find themselves split on SSM. Utah!

48/48 on SSM, but overwhelmingly approve of civil unions 72/25:


This is why the country will eventually move towards SSM acceptance. When a state like UT is already leaning towards SSM and equality for LGBT, it’s only a matter of time before the socons are left with egg on their face.

110 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:20:42am

Nothing reveals the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement more than its rejection of humanism, especially compassion.

111 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:20:58am

That blog post by Albert Mohler is pure crap, of course. The usual “believing in evolution is a religion too” bullshit.

The creationist dumbshits haven’t come up with a new argument in about 100 years.

112 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:22:23am

re: #107 Bulworth

Amazingly, it was like that 20 years ago when I went to Delaware. Had a Republican friend who was asked if he belonged to the College R’s. He said “No, they’re too mean.” The state was somewhat R then, with Biden in the Senate, Republican Roth in the Senate (of the Roth IRA), and the governorship flipping from term to term. State’s pretty solid Dem now with gay rights, too.

Amazingly that 40+ years ago Texas largely voted Democratic!

113 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:22:48am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Oh, Erick son of Erick is demanding we all go and read a column by Albert Mohler “right now”? No thanks.

114 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:23:32am
115 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:24:32am

re: #109 lawhawk

holy shit.

116 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:25:11am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

That blog post by Albert Mohler is pure crap, of course. The usual “believing in evolution is a religion too” bullshit.

The creationist dumbshits haven’t come up with a new argument in about 100 years.

The usual trick where you broaden the definitions of words like ‘Faith’ and ‘Belief’ and ‘Proof’ so that you can apply them as widely as possible - simultaneously rendering them meaningless? I’ve seen that one too many times to count!

Did you know that we Scientists take the results others publish on faith? And here I thought the M&M section of the paper was to allow you to replicate the work and see if the results are accurate. Silly me!

117 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:26:27am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

Evolution Is Most Certainly a Matter of Belief—and so Is Christianity

“everybody should believe in something.

i believe i’ll have another drink…”

118 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:26:50am

Erick Erickson’s creationist guru:

Richard Albert Mohler, Jr., is an American theologian and the ninth president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky.

119 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:27:12am

“everybody should believe in something”

“I believe you’re full of shit.”

120 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:27:30am

poll finds Utahns evenly split

i find them easily spilt

121 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:28:20am

re: #109 lawhawk

Utahans find themselves split on SSM. Utah!

48/48 on SSM, but overwhelmingly approve of civil unions 72/25:

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This is why the country will eventually move towards SSM acceptance. When a state like UT is already leaning towards SSM and equality for LGBT, it’s only a matter of time before the socons are left with egg on their face.

I suspect a huge part of this has to do with younger folks growing up in a less homophobic world. The older guard of the Right cannot fathom that, for example, the vast majority of soldiers are cool with the end of DADT, or that most Americans now favor SSM.

122 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:28:32am

It’s like I’ve said before, Erick really seems to regret missing his call as a televangelist.

123 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:28:33am

re: #119 Kragar

“everybody should believe in something”

“I believe you’re full of shit.”

you need another drink

124 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:28:49am

re: #119 Kragar

“everybody should believe in something”

“I believe you’re full of shit.”

This should be changed to: “I know you are full of shit.”

Confirmed fact.

125 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:29:37am

re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!11!!!!!

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Bill may have had his knob polished, but he didn’t call Monica a slut. It was between consenting adults, too, something Limbaugh can’t always claim as truth for himself. I thought at the time Bill should have had more self-control, esp w/such a dynamite wife backing him, but I wasn’t ready to impeach him for it.

Also, Limbaugh is a misogynist who says a woman who uses b/c is a slut so fallen she doesn’t deserve to be up there with everyone else.

126 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:29:49am

re: #122 Targetpractice

It’s like I’ve said before, Erick really seems to regret missing his call as a televangelist.

The money’s better in Talibangelism, too. And you can threaten eternal damnation more convincingly than you can as a political pundit.

127 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:30:52am

Yes, evolution is a “belief” just like the beliefs that smoking can cause lung cancer, aspirin can prevent heart disease, and obesity can cause diabetes.

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:32:38am

re: #122 Targetpractice

It’s like I’ve said before, Erick really seems to regret missing his call as a televangelist.

He also thinks he will inherit the EIB (Evil In Broadcasting) Microphone when/if Rush retires.

129 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:33:11am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

He also thinks he will inherit the EIB (Evil In Broadcasting) Microphone when/if Rush retires.

Well, he’s acquiring the requisite chins.

130 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:33:33am

re: #127 Dr. Matt

Yes, evolution is a “belief” just like the beliefs that smoking can cause lung cancer, aspirin can prevent heart disease, and obesity can cause diabetes.

And actually, the theory of evolution has proven itself over time FAR more than any of those examples. When right wing fanatics reject evolution they’re rejecting the basis for modern biology almost in its entirety.

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:34:37am
132 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:35:06am

re: #76 lawhawk

Sensenbrenner is one of the sponsors, and he was useful in the last reauthorization by overwhelming majorities.

The bill is hardly perfect, but it’s a vast improvement over the current mess, which is allowing states to act without repercussion (sure, they can be sued to stop, but that means disenfranchisement until after the court rules against the state action). The VRA would put these kinds of actions on hold until after the courts got to decide whether they were legit or not - protecting the rights of potential voters in the process.

Yep. Doesn’t change my bet. I think the house has shifted enough that they won’t pass it.

Now if it gets out of the house and into the senate I think it’ll pass. It’s the house that’s the sticking point.

133 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:37:48am

re: #130 Charles Johnson

And actually, the theory of evolution has proven itself over time FAR more than any of those examples. When right wing fanatics reject evolution they’re rejecting the basis for modern biology almost in its entirety.

I like to point out to Creationists that if they really believe that it’s true, they have no rationale to support animal testing of drugs, since we’re no more closely related to a chimpanzee than a banana.

The thing is, they tacitly accept the relatedness that evolution implies - and that implies evolution. They struggle to articulate it in a way that DOESN’T overtly accept evolution, but they really do not believe in separate, special creation.

134 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:39:50am

re: #130 Charles Johnson

And actually, the theory of evolution has proven itself over time FAR more than any of those examples. When right wing fanatics reject evolution they’re rejecting the basis for modern biology almost in its entirety.

I feel like there’s also an implicit concession by creationists that the scientific method IS superior to unfalsifiable belief in each argument. Either they try to put lipstick on a pig and make creationism sound all science-y (“intelligent design”), or they dry to drag science down to the level of unfalsifiable belief (which is what Erickson and Mohler are doing here).

It shows that they know they’ve lost the honest debate, so they’re going to try to make the “debate” a charade.

135 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:39:54am

re: #133 GeneJockey

I like to point out to Creationists that if they really believe that it’s true, they have no rationale to support animal testing of drugs, since we’re no more closely related to a chimpanzee than a banana.

The thing is, they tacitly accept the relatedness that evolution implies - and that implies evolution. They struggle to articulate it in a way that DOESN’T overtly accept evolution, but they really do not believe in separate, special creation.

Their God created us just as if we had evolved exactly as modern science concludes, however, he didn’t actually just have us evolve, and felt no real need to leave us any actual clues that we’re barking up the wrong tree. Because faith or something.

Frankly, their God is a colossal dick. For no reason at all, about almost everything.

136 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:41:23am

Erickson = Exhibit B for “Tartuffe”

137 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:41:42am

re: #135 erik_t

Their God created us just as if we had evolved exactly as modern science concludes, however, he didn’t actually just have us evolve, and felt no real need to leave us any actual clues that we’re barking up the wrong tree. Because faith or something.

Frankly, their God is a colossal dick. For no reason at all, about almost everything.

He’s testing us!
//

138 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:43:32am

re: #135 erik_t

The Southern Baptist God is more like Loki, but without the sense of humor.

139 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:44:39am

Can someone ask a creationist how they account for antibiotic-resistant bacteria? Evolutionary theory predicts that such a thing would happen. Where in the creationist “theory” (I hate abusing the word “theory” like that) does it say that bacteria could adapt to antibiotics?

140 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:44:55am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

The Southern Baptist God is more like Loki, but without the sense of humor.

Puny god. /Hulk

141 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:45:49am

If we let gays freely marry, our society will be overrun by gays within a generation or two. They’re just that damn sexxy.

142 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:46:29am

re: #139 Ian G.

Can someone ask a creationist how they account for antibiotic-resistant bacteria? Evolutionary theory predicts that such a thing would happen. Where in the creationist “theory” (I hate abusing the word “theory” like that) does it say that bacteria could adapt to antibiotics?

That’s microevolution, which obviously happens. You’re talking about MACROevolution, which is totally different and disproven by the Bible and stuff.

143 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:46:50am

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Amazingly that 40+ years ago Texas largely voted Democratic!

40+ years ago. Hmmm. What amazing political restructuring could have happened in the late 1960s/early 1970s?

(edited: forgot the ////)

144 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:46:56am

re: #133 GeneJockey

I like to point out to Creationists that if they really believe that it’s true, they have no rationale to support animal testing of drugs, since we’re no more closely related to a chimpanzee than a banana.

The thing is, they tacitly accept the relatedness that evolution implies - and that implies evolution. They struggle to articulate it in a way that DOESN’T overtly accept evolution, but they really do not believe in separate, special creation.

i ain’t related to no durn banana!

145 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:47:45am

Speaking of Utah and SSM.

Utah tax officials allow joint filing for married same-sex couples

“Previously, the Utah Tax Commission had issued a policy statement saying it would not allow joint filing of state returns by gay or lesbian couples married legally in any other state. That was before a federal judge struck down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage but after the Internal Revenue Service had announced it would allow joint filing by same-sex couples married legally anywhere, regardless of their state of residence.”

This applies only to the 2013 returns and could be reversed depending upon Utah’s appeal of the decision striking down their ban on SSM.

But I have a feeling that this decision to recognize these marriages as legal will have a profound impact on the full 10th circuicts decision.

ymmv of course.

146 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:48:01am

re: #144 dog philosopher

i ain’t related to no durn banana!

Your relatives would beg to differ. /

147 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:48:03am

re: #142 erik_t

That’s microevolution, which obviously happens. You’re talking about MACROevolution, which is totally different and disproven by the Bible and stuff.

I’d laugh at this, but I have a wingnut uncle who believes exactly this shit (he just tends to leave the Bible bit out and pretend that “science” backs him up).

148 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:48:22am

Ich lieb dich nicht du liebst mich nicht.

149 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:48:46am

German, the language of poetry.

150 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:49:41am

You mean everyone is not equal in the eyes of Jesus, Bryan?

151 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:49:48am

re: #145 Bubblehead II

The State Tax Commission issued this notice about SSM.

Same-sex couples who are eligible to file a joint federal income tax return and who elect to file jointly, may also file a joint 2013 Utah Individual Income Tax return as provided in Utah Code § 59-10-503. Eligible married couples may file a joint return if they are married as of the close of the tax year. (As of December 31, 2013, the Supreme Court had not yet issued its stay of the District Court’s injunction.)

LIMITATIONS

This notice is limited to the 2013 tax year. Filing information for future years will be provided as court rulings and other information become available. If any taxpayers are required to file amended 2013 tax returns based on future court rulings, they will not be subject to penalties for any tax deficiencies resulting solely from following this guidance. As with all income tax returns, any original or amended returns for 2013 may be subject to audit

152 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:52:17am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

German, the language of poetry.

hungarians think their phrase for “i love you” does not exactly fall softly on the ears either:

szeretlek

“ya, great, sure, it sounds like somet’ing you take for stomach problems…”

153 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:56:35am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

German, the language of poetry.

154 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:56:55am

re: #151 lawhawk

The State Tax Commission issued this notice about SSM.

Correct. I pointed this out in my post (that this applies only to 2013 tax returns) and is subject to change depending upon the out come of Utah’s appeal.

I also opined that this decision to recognize these marriages as legal COULD have a profound effect on the 10th’s decision on wether ot not to uphold the decision to strike down Utah’s ssm laws.

155 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:57:01am

How to be a first-class, top-tier Christian

i think this means you get comfier seats at all the lynchings

156 Joanne  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:57:03am

re: #8 Dr. Matt

And this……

Fox’s Keith Ablow: Trans people only exist as part of liberal plot to steal your rights

I do not understand how Fox viewers cannot see the performance art that is Fox. I mean..,.the stupid just…burns.

157 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:57:51am

re: #147 Ian G.

I’d laugh at this, but I have a wingnut uncle who believes exactly this shit (he just tends to leave the Bible bit out and pretend that “science” backs him up).

There is a whole field of pseudoscience called ‘Baraminology’, which Creationists use to build their ‘Evolution only occurs within kinds’ argument, as well as their answer to how the ark could POSSIBLY contain one of each kind. The latter argument goes that each ‘kind’ was represented by a single species, which subsequently diverged into all the current species. Thus, the large diversity of Felids all diverged from a single proto-cat species.

Of course, this requires evolution on a MUCH, MUCH shorter timescale!!

But it allows them to pretend they have an answer. Plus of course they get to include Magic in their explanation.

158 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:58:49am

re: #148 Charles Johnson

Ich lieb dich nicht du liebst mich nicht.

Do you give out towels with your lectures?

159 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:00:05pm
160 Joanne  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:00:15pm

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

Defying federal judges and authority? Yeah, that’s TOTALLY constitutional!

Of course it is! In the Wingnut constitution…the one they always carry in their back pocket tiny little minds.

161 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:00:17pm

re: #153 erik_t

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You gotta admit, though, that ‘Fledermaus’ is much more poetic than ‘Bat’.

162 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:00:35pm

Shorter GOHMERT! :

163 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:02:26pm

re: #150 Pie-onist Overlord

You mean everyone is not equal in the eyes of Jesus, Bryan?

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There is neither Jew nor Greek, Slave or Free, Male or Female. For you are all one under Bryan Fischer, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, et. al.

-Galatians 3:28, New Wingnut Supply-Side Jesus Version.

164 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:02:46pm

there is one very pretty word in german, at least - the word for peace and quiet:

ruhe

with the soft ‘r’ used in modern german, the sound of the word matches the concept very nicely…

165 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:03:26pm

Please see JuanitaJean for your full Louie Lineup

166 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:03:32pm

re: #159 Kragar

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As an actual Biologist, I can definitively state that he’s full of shit.

167 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:03:39pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

The RWNJS are really in a corner on this one. Sure they can try to claim man/woman marriage should be the only choice because only hetero couples can have kids, but then what about hetero couples who do not want to or are physically unable to procreate? Either you don’t want those marriages to be legal or you need to accept procreation is not the be all, end of all of marriage.

You have to understand, they don’t think it that far through.

There is one and exactly one reason to desire the criminality of same-sex marriage: Because God Said So™.

There’s just one little problem with that: Because God Said So™ is not an acceptable basis for the law in the United States of America. You have to be able to show that there’s some sort of good reason beyond purely religious dogma.

So, in their attempts to provide some non-religious reason to keep SSM illegal, they have to try to find some other reason that it shouldn’t be allowed. Their current tack for that is to try to show that Marriage, rather than being a simple legal context established between consenting adults, has something fundamentally to do with heterosexual norms.

This, of course, is horseshit. But deeply religious people don’t really have a problem with that.

168 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:03:41pm

re: #161 GeneJockey

You gotta admit, though, that ‘Fledermaus’ is much more poetic than ‘Bat’.

But nowhere near as nice as ‘pipistrella’.

169 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:05:08pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

And Steve Stockman has a degree in Accounting. Ironic for a guy who can’t explain his income.

170 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:05:09pm

re: #139 Ian G.

Can someone ask a creationist how they account for antibiotic-resistant bacteria? Evolutionary theory predicts that such a thing would happen. Where in the creationist “theory” (I hate abusing the word “theory” like that) does it say that bacteria could adapt to antibiotics?

Aww…that is just the invisible hand of God at work.

/

171 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:06:30pm

re: #170 ObserverArt

Aww…that is just the invisible hand of God at work.

/

Furthering the argument that God is a sadistic bastard.

172 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:07:50pm

Bryan Fischer ranting and raving about Teh Ghey is exactly like Father Coughlin ranting and raving about Teh Juice.

173 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:09:52pm

re: #172 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan Fischer ranting and raving about Teh Ghey is exactly like Father Coughlin ranting and raving about Teh Juice.

Related:

174 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:10:21pm

re: #171 Targetpractice

Furthering the argument that God is a sadistic bastard.

If there is such a thing as the Christian God, as described in the Christian Bible, then it is a malevolent God which must be destroyed at all costs.

175 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:10:51pm

re: #169 Lidane

And Steve Stockman has a degree in Accounting. Ironic Telling for a guy who can’t explain his income.

there.

176 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:11:31pm

Wanna see smoke come out of a fundamentalist’s ears? Ask him that, if God created everything that exists, and evil exists, and the works we do define us, then does this mean God is evil?

177 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:12:38pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Wanna see smoke come out of a fundamentalist’s ears? Ask him that, if God created everything that exists, and evil exists, and the works we do define us, then does this mean God is evil?

Something something free will original sin apple snake-Stan tricks!

178 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:12:50pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

German, the language of poetry.

On the other hand, it’s one of the best languages in which to curse someone out.

179 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:12:58pm

MA State Lege is currenty voting on election reforms. Same Day Reg amendment was just adopted :)

180 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:14:14pm

Cue the ‘splodey heads and the panicked TX GOP fundraising emails:

181 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:14:48pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Wanna see smoke come out of a fundamentalist’s ears? Ask him that, if God created everything that exists, and evil exists, and the works we do define us, then does this mean God is evil?

I defer to Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

182 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:16:00pm

re: #17 Kragar

Still has a license I believe

Keith Ablow

One of the earliest TV shows I remember was Pinky Lee —unfortunately named, considering the McCarthyism of that era.

When Did Girls Start Wearing Pink?
Every generation brings a new definition of masculinity and femininity that manifests itself in children’s dress
By Jeanne Maglaty
smithsonianmag.com
April 8, 2011
Excerpts:

We find the look unsettling today, yet social convention of 1884, when FDR was photographed at age 2 1/2, dictated that boys wore dresses until age 6 or 7, also the time of their first haircut. Franklin’s outfit was considered gender-neutral.

But nowadays people just have to know the sex of a baby or young child at first glance, says Jo B. Paoletti, a historian at the University of Maryland and author of Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America, to be published later this year. Thus we see, for example, a pink headband encircling the bald head of an infant girl.

Why have young children’s clothing styles changed so dramatically? How did we end up with two “teams”—boys in blue and girls in pink?
…
In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago.

Today’s color dictate wasn’t established until the 1940s, as a result of Americans’ preferences as interpreted by manufacturers and retailers. “It could have gone the other way,” Paoletti says.

So the baby boomers were raised in gender-specific clothing. Boys dressed like their fathers, girls like their mothers. Girls had to wear dresses to school, though unadorned styles and tomboy play clothes were acceptable.

When the women’s liberation movement arrived in the mid-1960s, with its anti-feminine, anti-fashion message, the unisex look became the rage—but completely reversed from the time of young Franklin Roosevelt. Now young girls were dressing in masculine—or at least unfeminine—styles, devoid of gender hints. Paoletti found that in the 1970s, the Sears, Roebuck catalog pictured no pink toddler clothing for two years.

183 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:16:00pm

DSCC just called me asking for money, again.

They really don’t seem to understand the “You supported Joe Lieberman once, politely get the fuck off of my lawn” response.

Why should I need a party campaign committee to find me politicians worthy of my cash in the age of the internet?

184 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:16:06pm

re: #180 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads and the panicked TX GOP fundraising emails:

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The only one I have heard over and over and over its the “Abortion Barbie” meme…..

Gettin’ stale it is…..

185 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:16:37pm

OK. Now is it parody?

Tea Party Candidate’s Ad Touts His ‘Sexy’ Wife And Large Testicles

thinkprogress.org

186 gwangung  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:17:10pm

re: #180 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads and the panicked TX GOP fundraising emails:

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I heard Davis thinks she needs to raise at least three times this to win.

187 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:17:43pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

OK. Now is it parody?

Tea Party Candidate’s Ad Touts His ‘Sexy’ Wife And Large Testicles

thinkprogress.org

This just in, The Onion has declared bankruptcy, cites reality becoming stranger than fiction.

188 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:19:13pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

This just in, The Onion has declared bankruptcy, cites reality becoming stranger than fiction.

Thanks Obama

189 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:19:15pm

re: #186 gwangung

I heard Davis thinks she needs to raise at least three times this to win.

The assumption is that it will take about $40 million to mount a credible campaign in this state.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:19:45pm

re: #182 abolitionist

But nowadays people just have to know the sex of a baby or young child at first glance, says Jo B. Paoletti, a historian at the University of Maryland and author of Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America, to be published later this year. Thus we see, for example, a pink headband encircling the bald head of an infant girl.

My daughter loves to dress her baby girl in frilly pink outfits, headbands, pink swaddling blanket, even little earrings!

Yet whenever she takes her baby out for a stroll there is always somebody who asks “Is that a boy or a girl?”

191 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:21:36pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Wanna see smoke come out of a fundamentalist’s ears? Ask him that, if God created everything that exists, and evil exists, and the works we do define us, then does this mean God is evil?

I think that bit falls under “there are things about God we do not understand and are not meant to…part of the mystery of God that only he knows and we as good sheep must accept.”

/ I learned a whole lot under 12 years of Catholic schooling. I learned there was a fact or excuse for everything, especially when it is all so mysterious.

192 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:22:41pm

re: #177 erik_t

Something something free will original sin apple snake-Stan tricks!

Not sure what all that means, but it sure am funny!

193 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:22:47pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

I think that bit falls under “there are things about God we do not understand and are not meant to…part of the mystery of God that only he knows and we as good sheep must accept.”

/ I learned a whole lot under 12 years of Catholic schooling. I learned there was a fact or excuse for everything, especially when it is all so mysterious.

“Mysterious Ways” is religious code for “You’re right, that’s bullshit and I have no response to it.”

194 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:23:15pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

I think that bit falls under “there are things about God we do not understand and are not meant to…part of the mystery of God that only he knows and we as good sheep must accept.”

/ I learned a whole lot under 12 years of Catholic schooling. I learned there was a fact or excuse for everything, especially when it is all so mysterious.

Yeah, the “moves in mysterious ways” business is pretty much the ecclesiastical equivalent of a scifi/fantasy author saying “a wizard did it.”

195 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:25:44pm

Russell Johnson, “The Professor” from Gilligan’s Island, has died at the age of 89.

en.wikipedia.org

facebook.com

196 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:26:32pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Russell Johnson, “The Professor” from Gilligan’s Island, has died at the age of 89.

en.wikipedia.org

facebook.com

And his coffin will be made entirely of coconuts.

/

197 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:27:12pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Amazingly, Gohmert has a BA in history and a Juris Doctor law degree, and still manages to sound like the dumbest hillbilly in the backwoods.

Serves to convince me he really knows better and just lies to suit his purposes at will.

198 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:27:42pm
199 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:27:48pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

And his coffin will be made entirely of coconuts.

/

Beat me to it

200 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:28:37pm

re: #199 Kragar

Beat me to it

It was either that or “I regret nothing!”

201 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:28:52pm

re: #198 Lidane

When RWW has to start prefacing descriptions with “actual”, you know shit is getting absurd.

202 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:29:07pm

re: #180 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads and the panicked TX GOP fundraising emails:

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Would be interesting to see the female to male breakdown on those donations.

And no, I am not saying men will not support her, just that I think women are outraged and probably will more than what would be normal and more so than men due to the Texas laws that have been foisted on them.

I am expecting similar in Ohio, but in Ohio’s case, the Democrat in the Governors race isn’t all that strong. If there was a strong female candidate in Ohio, Johnny Kasich would be in a hell of a fight.

203 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:29:24pm

re: #189 Lidane

The assumption is that it will take about $40 million to mount a credible campaign in this state.

Would’nt mind making a $25.00 donation to her campaign, but why is her site asking me who I am employed by and what my job is?

204 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:29:54pm

re: #198 Lidane

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Going to be a great campaign season.

205 EmmaAnne  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:30:14pm

re: #180 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads and the panicked TX GOP fundraising emails:

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I sent her $25.

206 b.d.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:31:06pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Russell Johnson, “The Professor” from Gilligan’s Island, has died at the age of 89.

en.wikipedia.org

facebook.com

Their chances of getting off that island again are fading fast.

//

207 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:31:23pm

re: #119 Kragar

“everybody should believe in something”

“I believe you’re full of shit.”

I believe I’ll have another beer.

208 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:31:51pm

And now I have a desire to watch MST3K: The Movie yet again.

209 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:32:28pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Russell Johnson, “The Professor” from Gilligan’s Island, has died at the age of 89.

en.wikipedia.org

facebook.com

That leaves Mary Ann and Ginger?

210 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:34:06pm

re: #205 EmmaAnne

I sent her $25.

Same here. From Boston to Texas with love.

211 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:34:31pm

re: #139 Ian G.

Can someone ask a creationist how they account for antibiotic-resistant bacteria? Evolutionary theory predicts that such a thing would happen. Where in the creationist “theory” (I hate abusing the word “theory” like that) does it say that bacteria could adapt to antibiotics?

Goddidit.

212 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:34:54pm
213 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:34:58pm

re: #135 erik_t

Frankly, their God is a colossal dick. For no reason at all, about almost everything.

Now thinking of this cartoon.

214 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:37:02pm

The GOP has already started with the 2016 Presidential straw poll/begging letter. They list 32 potential (plausible?) candidates.

gop.com

215 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:37:32pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

German, the language of poetry.

A real challenge in German is haiku. //

216 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:38:21pm

re: #210 geoffm33

Same here. From Boston to Texas with love.

I just sent mine in as well. Feel the love from Idaho Wendy.

217 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:38:40pm

re: #214 Decatur Deb

The GOP has already started with the 2016 Presidential straw poll/begging letter. They list >32 potential (plausible?) candidates.

gop.com

32? Geez, and we thought ‘12 was a circus.

218 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:38:45pm

re: #215 Romantic Heretic

A real challenge in German is haiku. //

Pffft. A really good German haiku would have 3 words on 3 lines.

219 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:39:19pm

re: #156 Joanne

I do not understand how Fox viewers cannot see the performance art that is Fox. I mean..,.the stupid just…burns.

Anecdotal, but based on the regular Fox viewers I know, it’s one big, noxious, sticky vat of Confirmation Bias. Roger Ailes is telling them that every prejudice they have is not only right, but they shouldn’t be ashamed of it.

220 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:39:44pm

re: #209 wrenchwench

That leaves Mary Ann and Ginger?

Yep, I think so.

221 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:40:20pm

A heterosexual gender match doesn’t magically connote virility on a couple. If Gohmert had his purported way and all marriage was based on “plumbing” capable of producing children then that leaves a lot of sterile people out in the cold. An entire class of human beings, post menopausal women, women who’ve had hysterectomies / oophorectomies, and otherwise infertile men and women would have no legit reason for getting married.

Since it’s the voting block they most count on I somehow doubt that the GOP bigots very much want to go around telling old people that their late in life marriages are a sham mockery of nature and God. Indirectly however that is exactly the message they’re sending when they say shit like this.

222 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:41:51pm

Tool proved definitively that German is just an evil sounding language years ago.

Youtube Video

The actual lyrics translated into English:

Half a cup of powdered sugar
One quarter teaspoo salt
One knifetip turkish hash
Half a pound butter
One teaspoon vanilla-sugar
Half a pound flour
150 g ground nuts
A little extra powdered sugar
… and no eggs

Place in a bowl
Add butter
Add the ground nuts and
Knead the dough

Form eyeball-size pieces from the dough
Roll in the powdered sugar
And say the magic words:
sim sala bim bamba sala do saladim

Place on a greased baking pan and
Bake at 200 degrees for 15 minutes
…and no eggs

Bake at 200 degrees for 15 minutes
…and no eggs.

223 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:44:00pm

WTF is wrong with these people? It’s beginning to wear…

Gunman, two others dead in Indiana supermarket shooting

reuters.com

“What appears to be Bair’s Facebook page contains disturbing, bloody images and posts, including a man’s bloodied face. His “likes” include the National Rifle Association, God, and the National Association for Gun Rights.

“Smith said Bair lived with his parents, whose home has been searched.”

224 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:44:27pm

Because states are totally free to ignore federal laws and federal rulings they don’t like:


And he’s the dean of a law school? ROFL.

225 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:44:38pm

re: #212 Lidane

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When they did their best work.

226 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:45:47pm

re: #219 Mattand

Anecdotal, but based on the regular Fox viewers I know, it’s one big, noxious, sticky vat of Confirmation Bias. Roger Ailes is telling them that every prejudice they have is not only right, but they shouldn’t be ashamed of it.

Exactly. For example (and I think it was covered here back when it first appeared), there’s this crap:

foxnews.com

This drivel isn’t intended to convince an atheist that God exists, it’s intended to keep the wingnuts comfortable that they’re right and the meanie atheists are wrong. Points 1 and 2 are almost onto something, while points 3, 4, and 5 are just pathetic.

227 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:46:05pm

re: #224 Lidane

Because states are totally free to ignore federal laws and federal rulings they don’t like:

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And he’s the dean of a law school? ROFL.

It really is beginning to look more and more like the 60s all over again, as the same forces that said “Disobey the law! Keep the races segregated!” are now screaming “Disobey the law! Keep traditional marriage sacred!”

228 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:46:22pm

Yikes.

229 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:46:35pm

re: #224 Lidane

It’s almost as if the Civil War never happened to these clowns.

230 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:46:36pm

re: #214 Decatur Deb

The GOP has already started with the 2016 Presidential straw poll/begging letter. They list >32 potential (plausible?) candidates.

gop.com

If you listen to the Paultards, that’s not enough. Each party needs 50 candidates to sift through, just like the Miss America pageant.

231 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:48:03pm

re: #230 Lidane

If you listen to the Paultards, that’s not enough. Each party needs 50 candidates to sift through, just like the Miss America pageant.

Will there be a swimsuit competition?

232 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:48:15pm

re: #229 Ian G.

It’s almost as if the Civil War never happened to these clowns.

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!
/

233 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:48:28pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Will there be a swimsuit competition?

OMG. NO

234 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:49:22pm

re: #233 wrenchwench

OMG. NO

Chris Cristie in a speedo. Fear the Vision.

RBS

235 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:49:37pm

re: #214 Decatur Deb

The GOP has already started with the 2016 Presidential straw poll/begging letter. They list >32 potential (plausible?) candidates.

gop.com

Tim Pawlenty? Allen West? Ron Paul (RONPAUL!)?! BEN CARSON!?!?!?

GOP. Oh, honey. Your bench.

236 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:49:42pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Will there be a swimsuit competition?

237 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:50:07pm

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

A heterosexual gender match doesn’t magically connote virility on a couple. If Gohmert had his purported way and all marriage was based on “plumbing” capable of producing children then that leaves a lot of sterile people out in the cold. An entire class of human beings, post menopausal women, women who’ve had hysterectomies / oophorectomies, and otherwise infertile men and women would have no legit reason for getting married.

Since it’s the voting block they most count on I somehow doubt that the GOP bigots very much want to go around telling old people that their late in life marriages are a sham mockery of nature and God. Indirectly however that is exactly the message they’re sending when they say shit like this.

I had another take. As in he is even more full of it than you point out.
Nobody has to be married to father or carry a pregnancy. So what exactly is this “biological” tie to marriage?

238 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:50:49pm

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

WTF is wrong with these people? It’s beginning to wear…

Gunman, two others dead in Indiana supermarket shooting

reuters.com

“What appears to be Bair’s Facebook page contains disturbing, bloody images and posts, including a man’s bloodied face. His “likes” include the National Rifle Association, God, and the National Association for Gun Rights.

“Smith said Bair lived with his parents, whose home has been searched.”

And now it’s too soon to talk about guns again.

239 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:51:10pm

Managed to get stupid and just installed Secure Guard Scareware With Extra Trojans and Password Stealers on my classroom server. Now in the process of repairing same said machine.

RBS

240 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:52:38pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Will there be a swimsuit competition?

I hope not, especially on the GOP side. o_O

241 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:53:04pm

re: #226 Ian G.

Exactly. For example (and I think it was covered here back when it first appeared), there’s this crap:

foxnews.com

This drivel isn’t intended to convince an atheist that God exists, it’s intended to keep the wingnuts comfortable that they’re right and the meanie atheists are wrong. Points 1 and 2 are almost onto something, while points 3, 4, and 5 are just pathetic.

William Lane Craig is a philosopher, author, and founder of ReasonableFaith.org, a web-based ministry whose purpose is to provide an intelligent and articulate perspective about the existence of God in the public arena.

hasn’t done it so far

242 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:53:04pm

re: #203 Bubblehead II

Would’nt mind making a $25.00 donation to her campaign, but why is her site asking me who I am employed by and what my job is?

My assumption? They are covering their asses.

I wouldn’t put it past some people to create something like a ‘Positive Pedophile Association’ and give money to her campaign.

Then word will be ‘leaked’ to her opponent that pedophles support Wendy Davis! And here’s the proof!

Remember, her opponent is a member of the modern GOP and there is very little they are unwilling to do in order to gain power.

243 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:53:04pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

Dtown LA had a red/orange sunrise this morning, as the sun rose and shone through the smoke plume. Very weird look to the air and all outside reflections. If you have asthma or COPD compromised lungs, get the heck out of the way of that plume.

244 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:53:19pm

Charles needs to implement [ronpaul] [/ronpaul] tags, which alternate dudebro and wingnut fonts with each letter.

That shit is tedious!

245 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:54:18pm

More on the death of Russell Johnson - apparently, it was kidney failure at the age of 89.

abcnews.go.com

89 is a good run, no doubt about it.

246 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:54:23pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Will there be a swimsuit competition?

247 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:56:57pm

re: #244 erik_t

Charles needs to implement [ronpaul] [/ronpaul] tags, which alternate dudebro and wingnut fonts with each letter.

That shit is tedious!

I have an app (typeitforme) where I press ‘wn’ and it does the wingnut font tag and puts cursor in the middle (same with ‘db’ for dudebro font.)

Hello Wo r ld !

Still pretty tedious though :)

248 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:56:58pm

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

WTF is wrong with these people? It’s beginning to wear…

Gunman, two others dead in Indiana supermarket shooting

reuters.com

“What appears to be Bair’s Facebook page contains disturbing, bloody images and posts, including a man’s bloodied face. His “likes” include the National Rifle Association, God, and the National Association for Gun Rights.

“Smith said Bair lived with his parents, whose home has been searched.”

More human sacrifices for the religion known as ‘America’.

249 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:58:12pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Will there be a swimsuit competition?

God, I hope not.

250 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 12:59:55pm

251 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:04:18pm

re: #250 Dr. Matt

Rarely does one describe one of history’s greatest monsters as “frumpy”.

252 klys  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:04:51pm

Dear Target:

On the heels of your wonderful data breach (and thank you so much for that, monitoring for false charges is my favorite thing to do!), it might be smart to send communications to customers about this from an e-mail address that ends in target.com.

Because the first thing that comes to my mind when I get an e-mail from 14f4c3d40layfovcia3lqamyaaaaab2yuzjdc7h6twyyaaaaa @ target.bfi0.com is that oh yeah, that’s totally legit. Hah.

253 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:05:16pm

re: #250 Dr. Matt

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“I sink diss ist ein gut look for me, nein? Duss anyone vant to disagree?”“

254 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:05:20pm

re: #250 Dr. Matt

Oh to wish to be Rory Williams and knock Hitler senseless into a storage cabinet. /to the TARDIS!

255 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:06:02pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

Yikes.

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3 in custody.

Wildfire near L.A.: Officer nabs suspects, ‘knew something was off’

“The police officer who detained suspects Thursday in connection with a fast-moving wildfire near Los Angeles said she “knew immediately” the men were involved.”

According to the story, the 3 were camping in an unauthorized area, started a fire to keep warm and it got away from them.

256 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:07:16pm

re: #252 klys

Dear Target:

On the heels of your wonderful data breach (and thank you so much for that, monitoring for false charges is my favorite thing to do!), it might be smart to send communications to customers about this from an e-mail address that ends in target.com.

Because the first thing that comes to my mind when I get an e-mail from 14f4c3d40layfovcia3lqamyaaaaab2yuzjdc7h6twyyaaaaa @ target.bfi0.com is that oh yeah, that’s totally legit. Hah.

We got a dead-tree letter from them today, offering a year’s free credit surveillance. Don’t think we’ve been in their store in months, and certainly don’t want their overwatch.

257 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:08:13pm

AXE better watch out…

Man sues Unilever after toothpaste fails to help him attract women

The 26-year-old man filed the lawsuit against Unilever Nigeria Limited, saying its ads for the toothpaste — which show women getting all hot and bothered after a dude brushes his teeth — are deceptive and false. Because he’s still single, despite using Close-up for seven years.

In his suit he claims “no girl ever agreed to even go out for a tea or coffee with me, even though I’m sure they could smell my breath. I always brush my teeth with so much close up gel to make sure the girls get turned on by my fresh breath as they usually show on TV.”

As evidence in the case, he’s submitting all of his tubes of toothpaste — the used, the half-used and those he has yet to use — as evidence.

The lonely life he’s living due to lack of help from the toothpaste has left him feeling “cheated” and in a state of “mental anguish.”

258 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:08:47pm

re: #255 Bubblehead II

3 in custody.

Wildfire near L.A.: Officer nabs suspects, ‘knew something was off’

“The police officer who detained suspects Thursday in connection with a fast-moving wildfire near Los Angeles said she “knew immediately” the men were involved.”

According to the story, the 3 were camping in an unauthorized area, starteda fire to keep warm and it got away from them.

Oh, hey! Record daily highs, exceptionally dry conditions with offshore winds! Let’s start a fire! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

259 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:09:15pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

It’s Experian that is providing the check. I’d say it’s worth it if something happens.

One tip I’ve seen is that you should stagger your free credit reports - 1 per agency, to every 4 months. This way, you’re able to keep a closer eye on your credit histories than if you did them all in one shot.

260 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:09:41pm

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

AXE better watch out…

Man sues Unilever after toothpaste fails to help him attract women

clearly, he failed to purchase the accompanying pussy magnet

261 klys  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:11:38pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

We got a dead-tree letter from them today, offering a year’s free credit surveillance. Don’t think we’ve been in their store in months, and certainly don’t want their overwatch.

The watching is actually done by Experian; I am unsure if we will go for it or not.

At this point, I know that the possible info affected was the card and (apparently) my e-mail address. Would be nice if Target told me what *other* information they were storing about me that could have been accessed, but…

262 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:12:46pm

re: #259 lawhawk

It’s Experian that is providing the check. I’d say it’s worth it if something happens.

One tip I’ve seen is that you should stagger your free credit reports - 1 per agency, to every 4 months. This way, you’re able to keep a closer eye on your credit histories than if you did them all in one shot.

We keep our retired credit life very simple—doubt we’ll ever buy anything on credit again. We use a sacrificial card for anything online or on travel.

263 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:14:17pm

re: #258 GeneJockey

Oh, hey! Record daily highs, exceptionally dry conditions with offshore winds! Let’s start a fire! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Since they also found pot in their backpacks I think is’s safe to assume they were probably stoned.

264 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:15:12pm

re: #226 Ian G.

Exactly. For example (and I think it was covered here back when it first appeared), there’s this crap:

foxnews.com

This drivel isn’t intended to convince an atheist that God exists, it’s intended to keep the wingnuts comfortable that they’re right and the meanie atheists are wrong. Points 1 and 2 are almost onto something, while points 3, 4, and 5 are just pathetic.

1. God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe. Given the scientific evidence we have about our universe and its origins, and bolstered by arguments presented by philosophers for centuries, it is highly probable that the universe had an absolute beginning. Since the universe, like everything else, could not have merely popped into being without a cause, there must exist a transcendent reality beyond time and space that brought the universe into existence. This entity must therefore be enormously powerful. Only a transcendent, unembodied mind suitably fits that description.

so, this ‘entity’, like the universe, and everything else, “could not have merely popped into being without a cause”, either - wouldn’t you agree?

and what is your explanation of the origin of this “enormously powerful” entity, the, um, “transcendent, unembodied mind”?

265 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:16:20pm

re: #264 dog philosopher

1. God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe.

“God” is not an explanation. “God” is a word.

Fucking people.

266 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:17:22pm

Update on MA voting reform:

267 EmmaAnne  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:17:27pm

re: #203 Bubblehead II

Would’nt mind making a $25.00 donation to her campaign, but why is her site asking me who I am employed by and what my job is?

I think it is a legal requirement. I have always had to provide those things when making donations.

268 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:17:50pm

re: #263 Bubblehead II

Since they also found pot in their backpacks I think is’s safe to assume they were probably stoned.

Well, then that makes more sense. I remember a friend telling me about arriving late to a party after everyone else was already stoned, and stopping them from going out to buy a turkey to cook -

“Hey, man! You know what would be great right about now? A Thanksgiving Dinner!”

“Oh, wow, man! Yeah! How long does it take to cook a turkey, like an hour?”

269 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:18:34pm


Drought conditions are going to be with us through May

270 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:19:46pm

re: #269 lawhawk

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Drought conditions are going to be with us through May

Looks like God hates Texas.

//

271 darthstar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:21:35pm
272 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:21:57pm

re: #264 dog philosopher

1. God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe. Given the scientific evidence we have about our universe and its origins, and bolstered by arguments presented by philosophers for centuries, it is highly probable that the universe had an absolute beginning. Since the universe, like everything else, could not have merely popped into being without a cause, there must exist a transcendent reality beyond time and space that brought the universe into existence. This entity must therefore be enormously powerful. Only a transcendent, unembodied mind suitably fits that description.

so, this ‘entity’, like the universe, and everything else, “could not have merely popped into being without a cause”, either - wouldn’t you agree?

and what is your explanation of the origin of this “enormously powerful” entity, the, um, “transcendent, unembodied mind”?

This was written a year after the Sandy Hook massacre. I would like to know why this entity sat around with a thumb up its ass let twenty 1st graders and their teachers get slaughtered.

273 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:23:20pm

re: #272 Mattand

This was written a year after the Sandy Hook massacre. I would like to know why this entity sat around with a thumb up its ass let twenty 1st graders and their teachers get slaughtered.

Not enough blood on the doorpost.

274 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:24:39pm

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

More on the death of Russell Johnson - apparently, it was kidney failure at the age of 89.

abcnews.go.com

89 is a good run, no doubt about it.

Not-so-fun-fact: None of the cast members got a dime in syndication royalties from Gilligan’s Island. That show is probably still on the air, somewhere.

275 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:25:04pm

re: #272 Mattand

Posted in slightly edited form at the Fox website.

276 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:25:28pm

re: #269 lawhawk

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Drought conditions are going to be with us through May

Well Sourthen Idaho is really going to get fucked this year. Snow pack is well below normal with no relief in sight. It was 22F this morning (normal) and is currently 44F (not normal).

277 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:26:28pm

re: #274 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Not-so-fun-fact: None of the cast members got a dime in syndication royalties from Gilligan’s Island. That show is probably still on the air, somewhere.

Dawn Wells did. At the time of sitcom, her then-husband was an entertainment industry attorney. He told her to make sure residuals were in her contract.

Or so I heard.

278 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:27:15pm

re: #274 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Not-so-fun-fact: None of the cast members got a dime in syndication royalties from Gilligan’s Island. That show is probably still on the air, somewhere.

I was wondering about shows like Gilligans’s Island and the Brady Bunch the other day. These were “cultural”* touchstones/memes for my generation. I was wondering if they carry any meaning for the current one.

*Extremely loose definition of “cultural”, ya freaking snobs!

279 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:27:48pm

re: #274 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Not-so-fun-fact: None of the cast members got a dime in syndication royalties from Gilligan’s Island. That show is probably still on the air, somewhere.

Actually, Dawn Wells got royalties.

It has long been stated that the entire cast of Gilligan’s Island (1964) never received residuals beyond the first four reruns of each episode. This was true for the entire cast except Dawn Wells. When the show was picked up by CBS and Dawn was cast to replace Nancy McCarthy, she was married to her agent at the time. In her original contract she was to be paid $1200 per week plus the residual contract the six other castaways received. Her husband/agent said that should the show become successful Dawn would not benefit from receiving such a limited residual option. Believing the show would flop, the CBS executives humored Dawn and her husband and put a clause in her contract giving her long-term residuals should the show ever syndicate. As a result from that clause Dawn has made literally millions of dollars as the years have gone by from syndication of “Gilligan’s Island”. This was never public knowledge. Dawn and series creator Sherwood Schwartz are the only individuals to profit long-term from the series.

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:28:10pm

Hope the Fish folk are hunkered down at home.
Pictures from NWS Twin Cities office look horrible.

facebook.com

281 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:29:28pm

re: #278 Mattand

I was wondering about shows like Gilligans’s Island and the Brady Bunch the other day. These were “cultural”* touchstones/memes for my generation. I was wondering if they carry any meaning for the current one.

*Extremely loose definition of “cultural”, ya freaking snobs!

Well, it was no “Dobie Gillis”.

282 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:29:49pm

re: #161 GeneJockey

You gotta admit, though, that ‘Fledermaus’ is much more poetic than ‘Bat’.

I’ve always been partial to the Latin word for bat, vespertilio. A pity that none of the Romance languages seems to have retained it.

283 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:30:41pm

Y no one fired becauze BENGHAzi???!?!??!!?!11111

284 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:32:13pm

re: #283 Bulworth

Y no one fired executed becauze BENGHAzi???!?!??!!?!11111

FTFY

285 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:32:17pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hope the Fish folk are hunkered down at home.
Pictures from NWS Twin Cities office look horrible.

facebook.com

My peeps up that way inform me that most of the badness is in outstate Minnesota, mostly well to the southwest of major population centers.

And thank God for that…

286 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:33:01pm

re: #269 lawhawk

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Drought conditions are going to be with us through May

Great. Just fucking great.

287 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:34:53pm

re: #285 erik_t

My peeps up that way inform me that most of the badness is in outstate Minnesota, mostly well to the southwest of major population centers.

And thank God for that…

What’s ‘outstate Minnesota’, anything not in the Twin Cities?

288 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:35:28pm

re: #282 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I’ve always been partial to the Latin word for bat, vespertilio. A pity that none of the Romance languages seems to have retained it.

“I’m not going to kill you. I want you to do me a favor. I want you to tell all your friends about me.”

“What are you??!!?”

“I’m VirVespertilio.”

Doesn’t have the same ring…

289 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:35:54pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

What’s ‘outstate Minnesota’, anything not in the Twin Cities?

I think so, yes. Not an expert.

290 freetoken  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:36:53pm

re: #279 Kragar

Not only that, but Dawn was a celebrity guest on Chopped.

Yeah, yeah, correlation without causation…

291 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:37:37pm

OMG, my g-son just showed me this, what his cousin sent him just now.

Image: 21439959.jpg

292 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:37:38pm

re: #288 Mattand

“I’m not going to kill you. I want you to do me a favor. I want you to tell all your friends about me.”

“What are you??!!?”

“I’m VirVespertilio.”

Doesn’t have the same ring…

Better than “Ich bin der Fledermausmensch.”

293 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:37:49pm

re: #288 Mattand

“I’m not going to kill you. I want you to do me a favor. I want you to tell all your friends about me.”

“What are you??!!?”

“I’m VirVespertilio.”

Doesn’t have the same ring…

What about BATMANUEL?

Youtube Video

294 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:38:25pm

re: #286 GeneJockey

Yeah, the drought continues. For western states, drought conditions affect a slightly larger area than last year but it just a smidge less intense than last year at this time. You have to go back to May 2012 to find a time when less than 50% of the West is not in some form of drought condition. Or December 2011 to find when less than 50% was not abnormally dry.

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

295 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:40:52pm

Oh boy

296 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:42:45pm

re: #295 Kragar

Oh boy

[Embedded content]

I don’t think that pretending to care is going to cut it for the RNC.

297 chadu  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:42:52pm

re: #279 Kragar

IIRC, it was Dawn Wells (successful), Adam West/Burt Ward (unsuccessful), and the cast of Star Trek (unsuccessful) that were some of the touchstones/poster-children for massive overhauls to the residuals clauses in TV contracts.

But that could be misremembered anecdata.

298 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:43:33pm

re: #283 Bulworth

Y no one fired becauze BENGHAzi???!?!??!!?!11111

benghazis will continue until moral improves

or at least until both barack obama and hillary clinton can no longer serve in any capacity

299 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:44:10pm

re: #293 Kragar

What about BATMANUEL?

[Embedded content]

Pfft. Turkish Batman has them all beat. May not be safe for work.

Youtube Video

300 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:44:42pm

Breaking

3 arrested in the Glendora brush fire for arson. if anyone dies its murder.

Maybe we need not play up the Red Flag Warning in the news?

latimes.com,0,5340676.story#axzz2qbILQJKp

301 Lidane  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:45:27pm

re: #295 Kragar

Here’s my thought:

Dear GOP,

You’re a party filled with and run by raving lunatics that has spent the last 40+ years appealing to the bigots, the idiots and the religious fanatics. Until you give up the anti-science, anti-reason, anti-everything that’s not a rich white evangelical Christian guy, I’m not interested in what you’re selling.

No love,
Me

302 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:45:34pm

re: #298 dog philosopher

benghazis will continue until moral improves

or at least until both barack obama and hillary clinton can no longer serve in any capacity

Not even PPOTUS (Parent of the President of the United States)?

303 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:46:16pm
304 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:47:06pm

re: #252 klys

Dear Target:

On the heels of your wonderful data breach (and thank you so much for that, monitoring for false charges is my favorite thing to do!), it might be smart to send communications to customers about this from an e-mail address that ends in target.com.

Because the first thing that comes to my mind when I get an e-mail from 14f4c3d40layfovcia3lqamyaaaaab2yuzjdc7h6twyyaaaaa @ target.bfi0.com is that oh yeah, that’s totally legit. Hah.

More on that; moron that:
Target’s Latest Failure And How To Spot A Scam

305 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:48:38pm

re: #295 Kragar

Oh boy

[Embedded content]

Dear RNC,
Send me popcorn, this is going to be funny.

306 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:48:54pm

re: #288 Mattand

“I’m not going to kill you. I want you to do me a favor. I want you to tell all your friends about me.”

“What are you??!!?”

“I’m VirVespertilio.”

Doesn’t have the same ring…

Quick, Erithace, to the Spelunca Vespertiliana.

307 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:49:35pm

re: #300 Political Atheist

Breaking

3 arrested in the Glendora brush fire for arson. if anyone dies its murder.

Maybe we need not play up the Red Flag Warning in the news?

Manslaughter. They didn’t intend for it to get away, from what little I’ve seen so far.

308 freetoken  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:50:10pm

The new pop-up system when clicking on a comment number is nifty.

309 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:50:19pm

re: #304 abolitionist

More on that; moron that:
Target’s Latest Failure And How To Spot A Scam

Malware in Target Breach Written Partly in Russian, Report Says

online.wsj.com

“The holiday data breach at Target Corp. appeared to be part of a broad and highly sophisticated hacking campaign against multiple retailers, according to a report prepared with the U.S. government.

“In some of the first details to emerge about the source of the attack that compromised 40 million credit- and debit-card accounts and personal data of 70 million people, the report said parts of the malicious computer code used had been on the online black market since last spring and were written partially in Russian.”

310 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:50:39pm

re: #300 Political Atheist

latimes.com,0,5340676.story#axzz2qbILQJKp

Charles ?

Dd a straight copy and paste with that link. What might I do to not have those odd characters off the end?

311 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:50:57pm

re: #300 Political Atheist

Breaking

3 arrested in the Glendora brush fire for arson. if anyone dies its murder.

Maybe we need not play up the Red Flag Warning in the news?

They also found pot in their backpacks. See my #255

312 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:52:58pm

re: #309 Justanotherhuman

Malware in Target Breach Written Partly in Russian, Report Says

online.wsj.com

“The holiday data breach at Target Corp. appeared to be part of a broad and highly sophisticated hacking campaign against multiple retailers, according to a report prepared with the U.S. government.

“In some of the first details to emerge about the source of the attack that compromised 40 million credit- and debit-card accounts and personal data of 70 million people, the report said parts of the malicious computer code used had been on the online black market since last spring and were written partially in Russian.”

i suppose this means that the variable and function names and/or the comments were in russian

313 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:53:03pm

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

Pfft. Turkish Batman has them all beat. >May not be safe for work.

[Embedded content]

I’ve seen that before. I’d argue it’s not safe to view anywhere.

314 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:53:08pm

re: #311 Bubblehead II

Aha. Sorry I missed that post. So maybe nor arson but just a outrageously felonious stupid time and place for an illegal campfire. Our mountains are so very, very dry.

315 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:53:11pm

re: #310 Political Atheist

latimes.com,0,5340676.story#axzz2qbILQJKp

Charles ?

Dd a straight copy and paste with that link. What might I do to not have those odd characters off the end?

Safe bet, in general, is to delete a # and anything after it.

316 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:54:16pm

re: #315 erik_t

Safe bet, in general, is to delete a # and anything after it.

Thanks.

317 klys  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:54:38pm

re: #304 abolitionist

More on that; moron that:
Target’s Latest Failure And How To Spot A Scam

Even better, the number of users reporting that this email arrived at addresses used only in conjunction with Amazon.

Which would explain much for me.

Target: how to totally fuck up handing a major data breach, the sequel.

318 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:55:04pm

re: #304 abolitionist

More on that; moron that:
Target’s Latest Failure And How To Spot A Scam

there are over a hundred million republican voters in the united states who by this evidence couldn’t spot a scam if it bit them in the ass

319 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:55:05pm

re: #315 erik_t

Safe bet, in general, is to delete a # and anything after it.

Doesn’t that designate a label within the target page? Can be useful, particularly if its a big page.

320 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:55:07pm

re: #313 Mattand

I’ve seen that before. I’d argue it’s not safe to view anywhere.

lol

321 erik_t  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:56:53pm

re: #319 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Doesn’t that designate a label within the target page? Can be useful, particularly if its a big page.

Well, presumably you preview your link first, and if it breaks that’d be my first recourse.

322 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:57:30pm

More OMFG…

‘Swiss Cheese Pervert’ suspect arrested

philly.com

323 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:58:25pm

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

More OMFG…

‘Swiss Cheese Pervert’ suspect arrested

philly.com

his case is full of holes

324 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:58:57pm

re: #323 dog philosopher

his case is full of holes

He’s a big wheel.

325 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:59:15pm

re: #321 erik_t

Well, presumably you preview your link first, and if it breaks that’d be my first recourse.

I’m not the only obsessive user of ‘Preview’?

Oh, wait. You didn’t admit to obsessiveness…

326 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:59:43pm

re: #324 Decatur Deb

He’s a big wheel.

And holier than thou.

327 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 1:59:48pm
328 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:00:23pm

Oh god, the cheese puns. I ate wrote too many last time, and kind of lost the taste for them.

329 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:00:39pm

re: #309 Justanotherhuman

Malware in Target Breach Written Partly in Russian, Report Says

online.wsj.com

“The holiday data breach at Target Corp. appeared to be part of a broad and highly sophisticated hacking campaign against multiple retailers, according to a report prepared with the U.S. government.

“In some of the first details to emerge about the source of the attack that compromised 40 million credit- and debit-card accounts and personal data of 70 million people, the report said parts of the malicious computer code used had been on the online black market since last spring and were written partially in Russian.”

Not paywalled, and one of my must-read news sources — krebsonsecurity.com
A First Look at the Target Intrusion, Malware

WHO IS ANTIKILLER?

A more full-featured Breadcrumbs-level analysis of this malware author will have to wait for another day, but for now there are some clues already dug up and assembled by Russian security firm Group-IB.

Not long after Antikiller began offering his BlackPOS crimeware for sale, Group-IB published an analysis of it, stating that “customers of major US banks, such as such as Chase (Newark, Delaware), Capital One (Virginia, Richmond), Citibank (South Dakota), Union Bank of California (California, San Diego), Nordstrom FSB Debit (Scottsdale, Arizona), were compromised by this malware.”

330 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:00:46pm

re: #317 klys

Even better, the number of users reporting that this email arrived at addresses used only in conjunction with Amazon.

Which would explain much for me.

Target: how to totally fuck up handing a major data breach, the sequel.

I got one of those this morning and I haven’t shopped at Target, either physically or online, for many years. I doubt I even had my current email address the last time I bought anything from Target.

331 BongCrodny  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:00:49pm

Ire: #324 Decatur Deb

He’s a big wheel.

…but with time off for gouda behavior…

332 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:02:32pm

re: #331 BongCrodny

I

…but with time off for gouda behavior…

Dog wants his walk. Gotta rennet.

333 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:03:15pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

And actually, the theory of evolution has proven itself over time FAR more than any of those examples. When right wing fanatics reject evolution they’re rejecting the basis for modern biology almost in its entirety.

The young earth creationist types are more ambitious —- they pretty much need to reject all science.

334 Mattand  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:04:36pm

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

More OMFG…

‘Swiss Cheese Pervert’ suspect arrested

philly.com

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

Oy, this city, sometimes…

335 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:04:39pm

re: #297 chadu

IIRC, it was Dawn Wells (successful), Adam West/Burt Ward (unsuccessful), and the cast of Star Trek (unsuccessful) that were some of the touchstones/poster-children for massive overhauls to the residuals clauses in TV contracts.

But that could be misremembered anecdata.

Dawn Wells’ case is one of those urban myths that won’t die. Her residuals contract was used up within two years:

DW: I don’t know there was a whole lot to save, but I’m a businesswoman. I know this business is fickle, so I’ve tried very hard with investments. I’m not rich by any means. Had we had some of those residuals everybody had, sure. But I’ve managed to make a good living all my life and to provide for when I get old and I’m alone.

B: So you don’t make money from the show in syndication?

DW: Not a bit. Not after the first five runs of each episode, which took about two years.

B: So at this point it’s all (show creator) Sherwood Schwartz’s?

DW: No. Time Warner.

She stayed busy though, worked theater, the odd TV gig, GI reunions and was quick to capitalize on the internet by selling GI merchandize on her website. Smart lady.

336 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:06:12pm

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

Pfft. Turkish Batman has them all beat. >May not be safe for work.

[Embedded content]

That was, well, dreadful dreck. 70s? Noticed the bell bottom pants, hairdos, etc. Has it attained cult status yet? ; )

337 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:08:15pm

re: #336 Justanotherhuman

That was, well, dreadful dreck. 70s? Noticed the bell bottom pants, hairdos, etc. Has it attained cult status yet? ; )

I don’t know. I know ‘Turkish Star Wars’ has.

338 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:08:19pm

re: #314 Political Atheist

Aha. Sorry I missed that post. So maybe nor arson but just a outrageously felonious stupid time and place for an illegal campfire. Our mountains are so very, very dry.

Yep, And this one is going to be more than apolgetic by the time criminal and civil proceedings against him are through.

Staab said one of the suspects admitted starting the fire and was “apologetic.”

Don’t think homes in that area come very cheap.

Video courtesy of L.A. Times

landing.newsinc.com

339 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:09:01pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

Dawn Wells’ case is one of those urban myths that won’t die. Her residuals contract was used up within two years:

She stayed busy though, worked theater, the odd TV gig, GI reunions and was quick to capitalize on the internet by selling GI merchandize on her website. Smart lady.

Mr. w had a date with her once. He said more like escorting her to an event. Back in the 60s.

340 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:09:47pm

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

What’s with all the flipping???

341 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:10:25pm

re: #340 Varek Raith

What’s with all the flipping???

Good question. Acrobatic batmoves, no doubt.

342 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:14:21pm

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

More OMFG…

‘Swiss Cheese Pervert’ suspect arrested

philly.com

Turns out it’s not him. They’re looking for emmentaler than he is.

343 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:20:51pm

re: #342 GeneJockey

Turns out it’s not him. They’re looking for emmentaler than he is.

Look into my avatar.

344 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:24:14pm

Man gasped for 10 minutes during execution
WTF

345 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:24:46pm

Are the Mormons loosening up?

346 Jack Burton  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:24:58pm

re: #264 dog philosopher

1. God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe. Given the scientific evidence we have about our universe and its origins, and bolstered by arguments presented by philosophers for centuries, it is highly probable that the universe had an absolute beginning. Since the universe, like everything else, could not have merely popped into being without a cause, there must exist a transcendent reality beyond time and space that brought the universe into existence. This entity must therefore be enormously powerful. Only a transcendent, unembodied mind suitably fits that description.

so, this ‘entity’, like the universe, and everything else, “could not have merely popped into being without a cause”, either - wouldn’t you agree?

and what is your explanation of the origin of this “enormously powerful” entity, the, um, “transcendent, unembodied mind”?

This is just a badly worded and dumbed down version of Thomas Aquinas’ Cosmological Argument. It’s something that modern science shows is not required for the existence of the universe and is therefore debunked.

Even if it was true, this ‘entity’ does not necessarily have to continue to exist, nor does it, simply on the basis of this argument, match the Christian or any other God as portrayed in by any religion in existence.

347 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:25:22pm

re: #336 Justanotherhuman

That was, well, dreadful dreck. 70s? Noticed the bell bottom pants, hairdos, etc. Has it attained cult status yet? ; )

What??? No ACTION PANTS!!! ???

348 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:26:25pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

What??? No ACTION PANTS!!! ???

Should have gotten a speed suit.

349 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:27:04pm

You are all terrible, terrible people.
/

350 ericblair  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:27:17pm

re: #264 dog philosopher

so, this ‘entity’, like the universe, and everything else, “could not have merely popped into being without a cause”, either - wouldn’t you agree?

and what is your explanation of the origin of this “enormously powerful” entity, the, um, “transcendent, unembodied mind”?

Yes, and of course from quantum mechanics we’re pretty sure that things happen (like creation of particle-antiparticle pairs) without any cause all the time.

351 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:28:09pm

re: #342 GeneJockey

Turns out it’s not him. They’re looking for emmentaler than he is.

He’s still a muenster.

352 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:31:37pm
353 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:33:15pm

Deadly farts…deadly Medieval Farts…

354 GeneJockey  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:43:18pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

Man gasped for 10 minutes during execution
WTF

Jesus. Why not just hang him? Or maybe an enormous overdose of morphine.

355 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:52:15pm
356 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:53:03pm

heh…responses are great!

357 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:53:56pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

Man gasped for 10 minutes during execution
WTF

In an opinion piece written for CNN earlier this week, a law professor noted that McGuire’s attorneys argued he would “suffocate to death in agony and terror.”

The state disagreed. Looks like the State was fucking wrong. But hey, they got their pound of flesh.

*spit*

358 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:54:12pm

Obama to nominate first black lesbian judge in 20 years

Read more: politico.com

“President Barack Obama has already nominated more African-American judges and more LGBT judges than any previous president. On Thursday, he’ll announce the nomination of Staci Michelle Yandle, the first African-American lesbian federal judge he’s picked.


Yandle, who’s in private practice, will be Obama’s pick for the district court for the Southern District of his home state of Illinois. If confirmed, that would make her the first African-American judge ever on that court, and the first openly gay judge in the 7th Circuit, which covers Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.”

359 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:55:25pm

re: #346 Jack Burton

This is just a badly worded and dumbed down version of Thomas Aquinas’ Cosmological Argument. It’s something that modern science shows is not required for the existence of the universe and is therefore debunked.

Even if it was true, this ‘entity’ does not necessarily have to continue to exist, nor does it, simply on the basis of this argument, match the Christian or any other God as portrayed in by any religion in existence.

it’s a rare case where every single assertion in the entire chain of argument is bogus:

God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe

no he doesn’t

Given the scientific evidence we have about our universe and its origins, and bolstered by arguments presented by philosophers for centuries, it is highly probable that the universe had an absolute beginning

not necessarily at all. why? does your “God” have an absolute beginning?

Since the universe, like everything else, could not have merely popped into being without a cause

why not?

there must exist a transcendent reality beyond time and space that brought the universe into existence

no, there doesn’t

This entity must therefore be enormously powerful. Only a transcendent, unembodied mind suitably fits that description

no, other things could account for it

360 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:56:03pm

Evening Lizardim from the dangerously windy wild north country. Yeah, I said dangerously windy - that wind is COLD, and in addition, drifting snow from this morning’s snowfall makes it hard to see in places. Nevertheless, here I am warm in my fishbowl with the Mrs. Fish and fishspawn. How go things among the lizardfolk?

361 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:56:05pm
362 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:56:37pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

Man gasped for 10 minutes during execution
WTF

was it an execution or an orgasm?

363 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:57:55pm

re: #359 dog philosopher

it’s a rare case where every single assertion in the entire chain of argument is bogus:

Nice job. One small correction to note —- a 100% error/fallacy rate is in fact typical of creationist literature.

364 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 2:59:21pm
365 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:01:56pm

re: #360 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the dangerously windy wild north country. Yeah, I said dangerously windy - that wind is COLD, and in addition, drifting snow from this morning’s snowfall makes it hard to see in places. Nevertheless, here I am warm in my fishbowl with the Mrs. Fish and fishspawn. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Good to hear you and the Fishfolk are safe & warm. I posted a link to the NWS Twin Cities office’s FB page earlier in the thread. The pictures look awful.

366 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:02:20pm

Hey, lizards. *waves*

Are any of the photography geeks here right now? I have a question about a quick-release system I bought for my tripod’s head.

367 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:05:42pm

Went out to grab an armload of firewood a little while ago before the sun set. Heard a strange noise and saw a possum attempting to run for its life down the driveway.
A driveway covered in ice.
The attempt at running was not graceful.

I laughed.

368 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:06:16pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good to hear you and the Fishfolk are safe & warm. I posted a link to the NWS Twin Cities office’s FB page earlier in the thread. The pictures look awful.

It’s pretty real up here. The wild temperature swings - nearing 40 degrees F across the last couple of days - the wind, the snow, it’s all coming together in a perfect storm of winter misery.

369 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:07:26pm
370 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:10:06pm

Ah, I just received an email from Target.

Late last week, as part of our ongoing investigation, we learned that additional information, including name, mailing address, phone number or email address, was also taken.

That’s absolutely fantastic, folks. This is turning into the mother of all cluster-f’s.

371 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:11:46pm

re: #368 thedopefishlives

It’s pretty real up here. The wild temperature swings - nearing 40 degrees F across the last couple of days - the wind, the snow, it’s all coming together in a perfect storm of winter misery.

I was worried about all of you when I saw those photos.
MrBWS is on his way home right now from Cincinnati, where it’s been blizzarding all day and there have been the requisite numbers of idiot drivers causing problems.
Including one particular idiot who blew through the work signs, traffic cones and almost ran over the flagger before slamming on the brakes and wrecking where husband and his crew were replacing a broken utility pole and downed power lines caused by a previous idiot driver.

heavy sigh…

372 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:14:03pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

Man gasped for 10 minutes during execution
WTF

Okay, enough of this “humane execution” crap. It is really only a way for death penalty proponents to ease their consciences anyway, not to mention the monumental scandal of dozens of death row exonerations. If these people do not have the guts to pull the lanyard on the guillotine or wield the axe themselves, I suggest they give it up and let scum like this rot in prison.

373 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:14:14pm

Can someone be removed from office based on mental health grounds?

374 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:14:23pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

This morning was warm enough that the roads were merely wet, not icy. Still, some complete dumbass managed to bury their minivan up on the embankment off the side of the freeway. I imagine the accident frequency would be much higher this evening; I heard several reports of such on other roads when I was on my way home.

375 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:14:43pm

re: #373 Kragar

Can someone be removed from office based on mental health grounds?

[Embedded content]

If they could, there would be few Republicans still in office.

376 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:16:14pm

re: #373 Kragar

Can someone be removed from office based on mental health grounds?

[Embedded content]

Having a member of a death cult make ‘pro-life’ noises on the House floor is irritating.

377 AlexRogan  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:16:54pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

OK. Now is it parody?

Tea Party Candidate’s Ad Touts His ‘Sexy’ Wife And Large Testicles

thinkprogress.org

Ain’t gonna lie, Maria Conchita Alonso was smokin’ hot back when she was in The Running Man with Ahnold and Richard Dawson.

These days, not so much.

378 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:18:19pm

re: #355 Kragar

Liberals love to argue. It’s a big part of their shtick. It’s not enough just to subscribe to an ideology and live it out as they see fit. If liberals did that, they’d be conservatives. Instead, they feel the need to impose their beliefs on you and everyone else.

That projection room sure is busy these days.

379 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:19:58pm

re: #364 Kragar

Ugh, the comments are almost worse than the article.

380 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:20:28pm

re: #370 thedopefishlives

Ah, I just received an email from Target.

That’s absolutely fantastic, folks. This is turning into the mother of all cluster-f’s.

Not to mention the fact that the E-Mail has all the hallmarks of a classic phishing attempt.

littlegreenfootballs.com

381 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:21:22pm

US Attorney seizes $28 million in Bitcoin from the Silk Road server

theverge.com

“This most recent discovery is separate from an earlier bitcoin cache, nearly four times the size, which was discovered in Silk Road mastermind Ross Ulbricht’s personal possession in October. That stash has skyrocketed in price since the seizure, and is now worth more than $130 million. Ulbricht has contested the seizure, asserting that he is the personal owner of the bitcoins found on his personal hardware.”

Proceeds from your criminal activities, Ulbricht. Good luck w/that for now.

382 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:21:28pm

re: #358 Justanotherhuman

Obama to nominate first black lesbian judge in 20 years

Read more: politico.com

“President Barack Obama has already nominated more African-American judges and more LGBT judges than any previous president. On Thursday, he’ll announce the nomination of Staci Michelle Yandle, the first African-American lesbian federal judge he’s picked.

Yandle, who’s in private practice, will be Obama’s pick for the district court for the Southern District of his home state of Illinois. If confirmed, that would make her the first African-American judge ever on that court, and the first openly gay judge in the 7th Circuit, which covers Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.”

Ideally, this should be a footnote to an article listing her lifetime of accomplishments.

383 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:21:44pm

re: #378 Eclectic Cyborg

That projection room sure is busy these days.

” They regulate everything, especially fun. They’re big on telling you, “No.”“

Yeah, all those liberal telling you who you can or can’t marry, telling you can’t use birth control, imposing restrictions on voting. They’re just regulating the fun out of everything.

384 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:23:59pm

“President Barack Obama has already nominated more African-American judges and more LGBT judges than any previous president. On Thursday, he’ll announce the nomination of Staci Michelle Yandle, the first African-American lesbian federal judge he’s picked.”

You think he’s doing some of this just to troll the RWers?

385 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:24:51pm

re: #383 Kragar

” They regulate everything, especially fun. They’re big on telling you, “No.”“

Yeah, all those liberal telling you who you can or can’t marry, telling you can’t use birth control, imposing restrictions on voting. They’re just regulating the fun out of everything.

HL Mencken on puritanism —- “The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy” —- is a much better fit for US conservatives than for US liberals.

386 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:27:42pm

Everything you wanted to know about the “New Improved Colorado”

387 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:27:44pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…responses are great!

[Embedded content]

I see a survey where they don’t really want to hear what people want. They only want people to tell them they’re right.

Please proceed.

388 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:27:55pm

re: #369 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Is he joining Larry Klayman in calling for a coup d’etat?

These jackwagons started calling for this last summer.

18 USC § 2382 - Misprision of treason, “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.”

That means you, Hannity. And the others know who they are.

389 Tigger2005  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:28:18pm

He is a sad, strange little man, and he has my pity.

390 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:29:16pm

re: #387 makeitstop

I see a survey where they don’t really want to hear what people want. They only want people to tell them they’re right.

Please proceed.

What is your impression of President Obama?

1) He’s a communist
2) He’s a socialist
3) He’s Satan
4) BENGHAZI!!

391 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:30:08pm

re: #380 Bubblehead II

Not to mention the fact that the E-Mail has all the hallmarks of a classic phishing attempt.

littlegreenfootballs.com

The interesting thing is, I read the article. The email originates from a bfi0 address (why didn’t I think to check that first?), but the link goes to a bona fide target.com address. Looks like it might be a hijacked subdomain of target.com. Gotta hand it to ‘em - that one actually got me, and I’m pretty good at these things.

392 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:30:14pm

re: #389 Tigger2005

He is a sad, strange little man, and he has my pity.

Yeah, I hate Justin Bieber too.

393 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:31:18pm

re: #391 thedopefishlives

the bfi address is legit, it represents some company working with Target called Bigfoot Data Protection or something like that.

394 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:31:22pm
395 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:32:14pm

re: #394 Kragar

That’s the year I was born.

Thanks for making me feel OLD!

396 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:32:28pm

re: #393 Eclectic Cyborg

the bfi address is legit, it represents some company working with Target called Bigfoot Data Protection or something like that.

Ah, ok. I just read the article to the end and discovered that it was, in fact, legit. Which explains also why I was able to get to the same page by navigating directly from the target.com root.

397 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:32:54pm

re: #387 makeitstop

I see a survey where they don’t really want to hear what people want. They only want people to tell them they’re right.

Please proceed.

The comments I was referring to are the twitter responses to that tweet.

398 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:33:45pm

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

The comments I was referring to are the twitter responses to that tweet.

Ah. Missed those. Off I go!

399 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:33:58pm

re: #394 Kragar

[Embedded content]

What’s that, a ‘telegram’?

/

‘It’s not as farfetched as it might seem.’

400 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:34:55pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…responses are great!

[Embedded content]

I like how strictly pigeon holed those options are. No room for deviation, reflection or a difference of opinion. No text field option to send a personalized message. Just tell us which of the things we already stand for is most likely to get you to send us money.

That’s not a survey, it’s a direct mail targeting tool.

401 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:35:01pm

re: #399 wrenchwench

What’s that, a ‘telegram’?

/

‘It’s not as farfetched as it might seem.’

But we just now got the Pony Express running!!!!

/

402 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:36:29pm

re: #400 goddamnedfrank

I like how strictly pigeon holed those options are. No room for deviation, reflection or a difference of opinion. No text field option to send a personalized message. Just tell us which of the things we already stand for is most likely to get you to send us money.

That’s not a survey, it’s a direct mail targeting tool.

I didn’t even bother clicking the tweet link, I just saw some twitter responses in my TL, so went to the tweet itself where responses are GREAT.

403 b_sharp  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:39:20pm

re: #359 dog philosopher

it’s a rare case where every single assertion in the entire chain of argument is bogus:

God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe

no he doesn’t

Given the scientific evidence we have about our universe and its origins, and bolstered by arguments presented by philosophers for centuries, it is highly probable that the universe had an absolute beginning

not necessarily at all. why? does your “God” have an absolute beginning?

Since the universe, like everything else, could not have merely popped into being without a cause

why not?

there must exist a transcendent reality beyond time and space that brought the universe into existence

no, there doesn’t

This entity must therefore be enormously powerful. Only a transcendent, unembodied mind suitably fits that description

no, other things could account for it

Stop thinking.

It scares them.

404 klys  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:40:36pm

re: #396 thedopefishlives

Ah, ok. I just read the article to the end and discovered that it was, in fact, legit. Which explains also why I was able to get to the same page by navigating directly from the target.com root.

Added bonus: Target may not have actually gotten your e-mail at all, as several folks have reported getting them on addresses never used at Target - but in many cases used with Amazon.

They’re doing a phenomenal job of demonstrating how not to respond to a major data breach.

405 b_sharp  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:41:35pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

Went out to grab an armload of firewood a little while ago before the sun set. Heard a strange noise and saw a possum attempting to run for its life down the driveway.
A driveway covered in ice.
The attempt at running was not graceful.

I laughed.

No video?

406 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:41:49pm

re: #395 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s the year I was born.

Thanks for making me feel OLD!

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

(1961 DOB)

407 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:43:33pm

re: #405 b_sharp

No video?

If I’d only known it was going to happen.
Usually the possum is just on the porch eating catfood.

408 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:44:14pm

Going upstairs.

409 b_sharp  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:44:58pm

re: #384 Eclectic Cyborg

“President Barack Obama has already nominated more African-American judges and more LGBT judges than any previous president. On Thursday, >he’ll announce the nomination of Staci Michelle Yandle, the first African-American lesbian federal judge he’s picked.”

You think he’s doing some of this just to troll the RWers?

That would be funny, but I suspect he’s doing it because she’s good.

410 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:45:02pm

re: #395 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s the year I was born.

Thanks for making me feel OLD!

That’s the year I graduated from college and got married. Thanks for making me feel OLDER!

411 b_sharp  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:47:34pm

re: #410 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

That’s the year I graduated from college and got married. Thanks for making me feel OLDER!

I was already 100 then.

412 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:47:52pm

re: #264 dog philosopher

1. God provides the best explanation of the origin of the universe. []

so, this ‘entity’, like the universe, and everything else, “could not have merely popped into being without a cause”, either - wouldn’t you agree?

and what is your explanation of the origin of this “enormously powerful” entity, the, um, “transcendent, unembodied mind”?

S/he/it popped out of nowhere. Do I win?

413 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 3:49:38pm

re: #271 darthstar

[Embedded content]

RIP professor

414 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 4:04:34pm

re: #311 Bubblehead II

They also found pot in their backpacks. See my #255

They probably didn’t want to carry anything heavy out, so they could move faster, so the beer coolers probably had to stay behind.

415 chadu  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:31:14pm

re: #348 Kragar

Should have gotten a speed suit.

When does the new season for VB start, anyway?

The move kilt mah TiVo.


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