Sarah Palin Co-Opts MLK to Attack President Obama, Commenters Spew Racism

Caribou Barbie weighs in, while her followers provide the hate
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Next one up in the Co-Opt MLK Sweepstakes, the always dim-witted Sarah Palin, who uses the occasion of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day to accuse President Obama of “playing the race card.”

Mr. President, in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr. and all who commit to ending any racial divide, no more playing the race card.

This asinine turnspeak is always a winner with the knuckle-dragging right wing base. Here’s a sampling of the comments for her Facebook post, in which complaints about being falsely accused of racism are juxtaposed with incredibly hateful racism, often right next to each other:

Be careful of what you wish for… We are judging them by the content of their character and it is not good.

[…]

Pin the tale on the Honkie. He is blaming racism for him being the worst president in history.

[…]

This president had set race relations in this country back 50 years. We were finally making headway until he took over and ruined it. For this and a host of other reasons, I declare his presidency an epic fail!! Shame on him!!

[…]

I am white and now have a dream my four children will one day live in a country where they aren’t prejudged because they are white.

[…]

everytime some one goes against Obama hes gonna play the race card but he needs to look the mirror and decide who hes gonna be racist against because he is white and black!!!!!!!!!!

[…]

We do judge on content of character and we’re called racist for it.

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Obama could have been one of the greatest presidents this country ever knew if he hadn’t played the race card, loved the USA more then his Muslim faith and fought to prevent socialism and bring back our American values and pride.

[…]

Amen, Sarah. I don’t believe it is the white race that is prejudice in the year of our Lord 2014. Seems to me that it is definitely some misguided black people that will not let the nations problem with color, die. I believe they are doing it purely for personal reasons, their pocketbook.

[…]

Hitler aka Obama has undone everything n set this country back a 100 years more..

[…]

This administration has done the most to divide the races since slavery.

[…]

He would be very disappointed in the first black president and the obamaphone foodstamp “ain’t nobody got time fo dat” crowd that exists now

[…]

Obama just can’t get over the fact that he’s half white.

[…]

Don’t for get the fraud, voting several times and illegal voting. threats by black panthers, oh and the dead that voted for him. Not race hes as much white as black, but hes muslim.

[…]

Maybe he resents being half white.

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The problem today is blacks hating whites and feeling that we owe them something because we are white. Most of the whites migrated here after slavery.

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Today’s blacks are more racists than today’s whites. Today’s blacks want a handout and don’t wanna Put in work to get it like MLK.

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The content of their character IS the problem!

[…]

the white,s do not have a race problem with the black,s the black,s have the problem,they are really better off, than the white,we have to work for what we get, you just hold your hand out.

[…]

It is not about the color of skin. It is the content of their character. Clean up your acts. Quit being a race of ghetto gang banging thug criminals wanting your entire life paid for. Quit being the true racists in America. Try making MLK proud instead of ashamed.

[…]

No one can prove what race he is…he could just be Arab….a lot of Arabs are mixed. We have seen enough birth certificates and none are accurate. He doesnt even know his exact birthday. He cant even prove who his Mother is…in all honesty. His so called book wasnt written by him, and it is a fairy tale that, in his mind, actually happened. This guy has no known ACTUAL proven past, and what there is…cannot be seen…why is it hidden? No one verified his SS#. His marriage is a sham, due to his “background” that “is proven” and I have no respect for a woman who would live as she has. Maybe some day..she will disappear as his other.”lovers”. This whole nightmare is just allowed to continue with no recourse. Where is the strength and honesty in this country? How can we recover from the embarrassments we have faced. around the world… with the deception connected the Obama legacy?????

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400 comments
1 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:13:15am

Repost from the previous thread:

Here we have a Tweeted photo of Sarah Palin in front of a ‘green screen’:

Lets have some fun with a question: What would you put as the background image behind Sarah Palin?

2 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:14:29am

I’d say I expected better, but Caribou Barbie has yet to rise above the very low bar I set for her back in ‘08. If anything, she seems to always find a way to limbo under it.

3 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:14:33am

HURR HURRRRR!!!11!!

4 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:15:00am

Dear John McCain,

Fuck you and the rest of the GOP brain trust for foisting this dimwit on the rest of us. I will never, ever forgive you for that.

No love,
Me

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:17:16am

HURR HURRRRR!!!!11!

6 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:18:09am

re: #3 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURRRRR!!!11!!

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Let’s see, there’s the cost of the economic crash that the previous admin allowed to rollercoaster without delay, putting the cost of two foreign wars back on the books rather than running them on a separate ledger, the cost of maintaining tax cuts that should have been allowed to expire, the cost of all the welfare to those left unemployed by the economic crash, stop me if this starts getting repetitive…

7 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:20:19am

Blacks are better off than white people??

Talk about a disconnect.

8 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:20:45am

HURR HURRRRRR BUT TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!1!!!11!!!

9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:21:26am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Blacks are better off than white people??

Talk about a disconnect.

Welfare Moms who drive cadillacs, eat steaks and shrimp and do not have to work are better of than hard-working white people, yes.

10 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:22:45am

re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURRRRR!!!!11!

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The wingnut’s Foghorn Leghorn avatar made this reply fun to compose:

11 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:26:07am

WTFITS I just can’t even…

12 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:26:24am

But they called him a Communist while he was alive.

13 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:27:31am

Since we’re now talking about concussions and other head injuries, I guess it’s OK if I mention that I have to become a Seahawks fan. One of their players is from the same city I am from.

14 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:28:28am

White People:

God’s Umpires for Race Relations.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:28:35am

OfficeMax addresses junk mail to father of “daughter killed in car crash

No one likes junk mail. It’s annoying, we agree. We never imagined one simple piece of mail could cause a family pain and trauma, but it did last week. An Illinois man received what at first appeared to be an ordinary mailing from OfficeMax, except under his name was the line “daughter killed in car crash”.

While it might seem like a shot in the dark, it wasn’t. The man and his family are still dealing with the aftermath of his 17-year-old daughter’s death in a car accident last year, the Los Angeles Times reports.

How did OfficeMax get ahold of this very personal information? The man says he’s not a regular customer and would never tell anyone from OfficeMax about the crash.

OfficeMax officials said in a statement that the mailing is the result of a list rented through a third-party provider and offered their apologies to the man and his family.

16 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:28:45am

re: #12 Pie-onist Overlord

But they called him a Communist while he was alive.

He’s a hero. He’s dead.
They can adopt him without worrying he’ll shoot them down.

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:31:29am

Any RWNJs compared MLK to Snowden yet?

18 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:32:53am

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Any RWNJs compared MLK to Snowden yet?

No but Greenwald has

19 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:33:49am

Unfrozen Siberian Girlfriend came up with tickets to see chick corea and bela fleck at the zellerbach this weekend

20 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:34:15am

I noticed you’re black. Clearly you must take steps to correct this situation.

21 Ace-o-aces  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:34:59am

Just to be clear, “playing the race card” = “being black”.

22 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:35:35am

re: #20 The Ghost of a Flea

I noticed you’re black. Clearly you must take steps to correct this situation.

Ah, hello my fellow of color. Allow me to introduce you to the Gospel of Rand. Once you’ve seen the light, you’ll wonder why you ever stayed on the Democrat’s plantation.

23 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:36:27am

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

Repost from the previous thread:

Here we have a Tweeted photo of Sarah Palin in front of a ‘green screen’:

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Lets have some fun with a question: What would you put as the background image behind Sarah Palin?

A shill-covered beach.

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:36:49am

HURR HURRRRR HOW DARES U CALL ME TEH RACIST!!!1!!! I SPAM-TWEET THOMAS SOWELL & BEN CARSON ALL OVER TEH TWITTERS!!!11!!! U R TEH REAL RACISTS HURR HURR!!!!

25 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:37:25am

my mlk day resolution:

no more perusing of the venomous exhalations of vexatious and ignorant persons

at least not before lunch

26 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:37:52am

re: #25 dog philosopher

my mlk day resolution:

no more perusing of the venomous exhalations of vexatious and ignorant persons

at least not before lunch

So you’re staying off Twitter then?

27 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:38:26am

Explosion and building collapse at livestock feed plant in Omaha.

usnews.nbcnews.com

Cows blaming Big Corn. Big Corn blaming radical cow faction.

28 piratedan  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:38:42am

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

The wingnut’s Foghorn Leghorn avatar made this reply fun to compose:

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boy’s got a mind like a steel trap, nothing gets in and nothing gets out…..

29 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:39:00am

2,000 years from now Fox News will be telling its viewers that MLK was white and was sent down by God to free the white man.

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:39:22am

TELL US AGAIN WHAT A PATRIOT YOU ARE.

31 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:40:19am
32 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:40:25am

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

They do love a strongman.

33 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:40:26am

re: #27 Feline Fearless Leader

Explosion and building collapse at livestock feed plant in Omaha.

usnews.nbcnews.com

Cows blaming Big Corn. Big Corn blaming radical cow faction.

Clearly, we should never have armed the livestock:

Youtube Video

34 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:40:35am

re: #28 piratedan

boy’s got a mind like a steel trap, nothing gets in and nothing gets out…..

That works well, too. But given I was replying to racism, I could not use the word ‘boy’ in my tweet. It would have been pounced upon had I done so.

35 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:41:06am

re: #3 Pie-onist Overlord

What the fuck does that even mean?

36 BongCrodny  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:41:12am

Best response ever to a Starbucks “Cease and Desist” Letter

37 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:41:14am

re: #31 Pie-onist Overlord

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It already exists, it’s called the Republican Party.

38 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:41:49am
39 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:42:02am

re: #35 Ian G.

Divide by unrelated numbers = OUTRAGE!!!

40 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:42:05am
41 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:42:16am
42 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:42:51am

This is the OFFICIAL FreeRepublic Twitter account, not the FreeRepublicTXT.

43 bubba zanetti  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:43:32am
44 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:44:04am

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

TELL US AGAIN WHAT A PATRIOT YOU ARE.

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How many wingnuts are closet homosexuals, I seriously wonder? Many seem to have some sexual attraction to Putin.

45 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:44:20am

re: #42 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s impossible to tell the difference most days.

46 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:44:48am

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

TELL US AGAIN WHAT A PATRIOT YOU ARE.

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Obama with a shotgun:

Image: barack-obama-fun-getty.jpg

Putin with a pistol:

Image: putin8_11_06_2085671i.jpg

Winner: Obama. More firepower and better use of sound dampeners gives him the edge.

47 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:45:08am

MOAR PUTIE LOVE

48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:45:20am

re: #42 Pie-onist Overlord

This is the OFFICIAL FreeRepublic Twitter account, not the FreeRepublicTXT.

Cool Heads, Patriots. The statist elites want violence. Any false flag for martial law.

That’s why they allowed us to be armed to the teeth with assault rifles and hair-trigger, meth-induced rage, so we’d be easy to set off!!

49 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:45:22am

Sarah Palin Co-Opts MLK to Attack President Obama, Commenters GOP Base Spew Racism

Fixed.

50 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:45:57am

re: #41 darthstar

Great stuff, Darth.

51 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:46:01am

Uh, maybe it is because Obama is taller?

52 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:46:43am

Because POTUS takes the trouble to learn Japanese etiquette.

53 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:47:17am

re: #27 Feline Fearless Leader

Explosion and building collapse at livestock feed plant in Omaha.

usnews.nbcnews.com

Cows blaming Big Corn. Big Corn blaming radical cow faction.

It’s always the cows.
It’s the cows

54 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:47:48am

re: #52 Pie-onist Overlord

Those are also horribly racist.

55 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:48:10am

Well, if they’re spewing racism at the President, it means they’re too busy to spew racism at Richard Sherman, who is a guy who seemed to have followed wingnut advice and lifted himself up by the bootstraps to graduate from one of the most prestigious universities in the world despite his roots in Compton.

I seriously think that the only acceptable African-American public figures are those that spew paranoid lunacy even moreso than your typical white wingnut (see West, Allen). Anyone else is either a thug, welfare cheat, or communist.

56 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:48:21am

ThePeoplesCube also created this lovely graphic:

57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:48:22am

Remember, people who have no idea of what manhood or patriotism really mean tend to fixate on outward symbols and arbitrary gestures that have come to be associated with those concepts.

Where’s my lapel flag pin?

58 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:49:58am

FReep just keeps on Derping MOAR PUTIE LOVE. (Not embedding any more here)

59 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:50:01am

re: #55 Ian G.

Well, if they’re spewing racism at the President, it means they’re too busy to spew racism at Richard Sherman, who is a guy who seemed to have followed wingnut advice and lifted himself up by the bootstraps to graduate from one of the most prestigious universities in the world despite his roots in Compton.

I seriously think that the only acceptable African-American public figures are those that spew paranoid lunacy even moreso than your typical white wingnut (see West, Allen). Anyone else is either a thug, welfare cheat, or communist.

Sherman and the President don’t talk at length about the “Democrat plantation” or declare that black folks need to “get over slavery” and “act white.”

60 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:50:03am

re: #55 Ian G.

What’s Herman Cain up to these days?

61 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:51:13am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Remember, people who have no idea of what manhood or patriotism really mean tend to fixate on outward symbols and arbitrary gestures that have come to be associated with those concepts.

Where’s my lapel flag pin?

Pseudomasculinity has always been an important part of the fascist psyche, as if strutting in uniform makes one a man.

62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:51:20am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s Herman Cain up to these days?

theblaze.com

63 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:51:22am

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Clearly, we should never have armed the livestock:

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I want to know whether or not Peyton Manning was signaling the cows yesterday.
/// ;P

64 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:52:26am

Now Freep is all HURR HURR GOSPOZHE PUTINA IS TEH HAWT & MICHELLE IS TEH FUGLY!!!11!!!!

65 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:53:56am

re: #55 Ian G.

And it poisons the ability to have a discussion about what’s good sportsmanship to boot because let’s face it, there was some pretty shitty sportsmanship on display there yesterday.

66 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:54:19am

Vladimir Putin, gay icon FB page

67 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:54:25am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Remember, people who have no idea of what manhood or patriotism piety really mean tend to fixate on outward symbols and arbitrary gestures that have come to be associated with those concepts.

Where’s my lapel flag pin 10 Commandments monument?

Just a reminder: the same wingnuts that have inverted the principles of our governance to justify their authoritarianism have already done the same with the principles of their faith.

68 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:55:12am
69 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:56:03am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Remember, people who have no idea of what manhood or patriotism really mean tend to fixate on outward symbols and arbitrary gestures that have come to be associated with those concepts.

Where’s my lapel flag pin?

As witness:

Image: here-putin-trains-with-an-assault-rifle-simulator.jpg

The device on the end of the rifle is intended to act as a recoil compensator, but some might say the entire rifle is a “compensator”.

70 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:56:30am

HURR HURRRR!!!11!!

71 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:57:12am

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Not pictured: The TV monitor and PS3 he’s using.

/

72 Jack Burton  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:57:21am

I made the mistake of searching for the n-word on twitter just to see if it was as bad as last year, and the year before…

Of course, the ignorant assholes on twitter are legion.

73 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:59:53am

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

The wingnut’s Foghorn Leghorn avatar made this reply fun to compose:

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He’s about as sharp as a bowling ball.

74 piratedan  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:00:30pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

That works well, too. But given I was replying to racism, I could not use the word ‘boy’ in my tweet. It would have been pounced upon had I done so.

understoos, perhaps we could have gone with Son….. instead :-)

75 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:02:10pm

re: #61 Ian G.

And to this, remember the thrill they got when GWB did his roster strut on the flight carrier?

76 psddluva4evah  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:02:19pm

Cause nothing celebrates MLK life and legacy more than accusing the first Black President of being racist by telling him to stop playing the race card….UGH..stupid b….

77 122 Year Old Obama  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:04:56pm

Not enough headdesks in the world.

78 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:06:29pm

re: #73 Varek Raith

He’s about as sharp as a bowling ball.

79 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:07:26pm
80 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:08:12pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

As witness:

Image: here-putin-trains-with-an-assault-rifle-simulator.jpg

The device on the end of the rifle is intended to act as a recoil compensator, but some might say the entire rifle is a “compensator”.

There’s a pretty deep vein to mine in the way that Putin uses “manliness” as part of his image management as a dictator. Not just the shirtless thing…the “Putin’s girls,” the outdoorsmanship, etc. Old school male potency equals leadership potency stuff.

It gets really creepy when you factor in the anti-gay part though.

I can’t believe people are impressed by this. It’s so…obvious.

81 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:08:45pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

It’s a conspiracy between Congress, The Courts, and the President to take over the government!

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:09:12pm
83 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:09:28pm
84 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:10:50pm
85 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:11:09pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

For more checkout KDS’ Twitter feed. While there, be sure to note Gus’s “Bridgeghazi Ribbon” wallpaper.

86 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:13:34pm
87 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:13:37pm

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

Which iteration?
- Marvel comic book hero team
- UK TV series
- Rock Band
- The 90s Serbian paramilitary group
- The Nokmim (הנוקמים)

88 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:15:12pm
89 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:15:16pm

My suggestion for how to celebrate MLK day.

Pick a good long article or video to take in that is on point for understanding the culture or the history of African Americans. Contemporary, historical you pick it. but put in the time and effort.

90 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:16:52pm

re: #89 Political Atheist

My suggestion for how to celebrate MLK day.

Pick a good long article or video to take in that is on point for understanding the culture or the history of African Americans. Contemporary, historical you pick it. but put in the time and effort.

Check out Critical Dragon’s page from the Daily Kos.

91 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:21:36pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Remember, Obama’s a dictator because nobody in these clowns social circles voted for him, so he must’ve “stolen” the election.

92 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:21:53pm

Whoa…I never knew ET was a fucking Jedi.

93 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:31:20pm

ET kilt the thread.

94 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:31:56pm

Lions and tigers and bears, oh my.

95 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:32:07pm

re: #93 makeitstop

ET kilt the thread.

Massive cuteness will do that…

96 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:34:20pm
97 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:35:51pm
98 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:36:12pm

re: #93 makeitstop

ET kilt the thread.

Fucking Jedi.

99 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:36:55pm
100 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:37:24pm
101 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:37:31pm

Pew Research Center/USA Today. Jan. 15-19, 2014

“Do you believe Chris Christie when he says he didn’t have any knowledge of his aides’ involvement in this incident until it became public, or do you not believe him?”

Believe Teh Christie 32%
Do not believe Teh Christie 58%
Fish 11%

102 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:38:17pm
103 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:38:25pm
104 leftynyc  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:38:34pm

OT - fellow New Yorkers/tri-state region - my phone just beeped to inform that the winter storm watch has been upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning for most of our area for tomorrow night/Wed morning. Everyone be careful as it’s also supposed to be crazy cold.

105 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:38:53pm
106 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:41:03pm

HURR HURR!!!!1!!! HOW DARE U QUESTION ME, ME TEH GREATEST JOURNALIST WHO EVER JOURNALED!!!!1!!!!

107 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:42:02pm

re: #106 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!1!!! HOW DARE U QUESTION ME, ME TEH GREATEST JOURNALIST WHO EVER JOURNALED!!!!1!!!!

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Glenn Greenwald, the man whose picture appears in the dictionary next to “chutzpah.”

108 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:43:58pm

re: #27 Feline Fearless Leader

Explosion and building collapse at livestock feed plant in Omaha.

usnews.nbcnews.com

Cows blaming Big Corn. Big Corn blaming radical cow faction.

Cows with Guns.

Youtube Video

109 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:44:36pm
110 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:44:55pm

re: #101 dog philosopher

Believe Teh Christie 32%
Do not believe Teh Christie 58%
Fish 11%

Much skepticism!

Would love it if research firms used LOLCat and Doge vernacular in their polls.

111 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:45:32pm

re: #99 Kragar

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Sadly, I have seen comments that suggest white youth deserve leniency on drug related infractions because they are “good kids” while youth of color should be treated more harshly because they are thugs anyway.

112 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:46:40pm
113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:46:54pm

re: #104 leftynyc

OT - fellow New Yorkers/tri-state region - my phone just beeped to inform that the winter storm watch has been upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning for most of our area for tomorrow night/Wed morning. Everyone be careful as it’s also supposed to be crazy cold.

It is 51F right now here in eastern Kentucky.
A Winter Storm Advisory begins at midnight (along with 2-4 inches of snow and 10-20 mph winds with gusts up to 30).
Tomorrow night’s low is forecast to be 1F.

I am truly sick and tired of this nonsense…

114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:46:57pm

re: #111 calochortus

Sadly, I have seen comments that suggest white youth deserve leniency on drug related infractions because they are “good kids” while youth of color should be treated more harshly because they are thugs anyway.

White kids are more likely to have families that can afford private therapy and counselling, the black kids just go back to hangin’ with they homies…

115 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:47:40pm

re: #100 darthstar

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58% don’t believe he’s being honest, which naturally means that tomorrow Morning Joke..er, Joe will try extra hard to scream that anybody who doesn’t think the governor is being totally honest and wanting to move past all this is a partisan doody-head.

116 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:48:56pm

Can any RWNJs explain why not pay nothing at all and citizenship only for white male landowners?

117 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:49:25pm

re: #104 leftynyc

OT - fellow New Yorkers/tri-state region - my phone just beeped to inform that the winter storm watch has been upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning for most of our area for tomorrow night/Wed morning. Everyone be careful as it’s also supposed to be crazy cold.

Yup. GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!!

/////////////////

In all seriousness, the cold won’t be as awful as 2 weeks ago with the “polar vortex”, but snow will be pretty significant. 6-10 inches in the city and Nassau (probably more towards 10 in Nassau), 10-14 in Suffolk.

Most storms are worst “north and west” of the city when it comes to snowfall totals, but not this one. If you’re in Orange County or the Poconos, you’ll only see a couple of inches.

118 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:49:44pm

re: #112 darthstar

Video of the finish:
Youtube Video

119 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:50:08pm

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Love how they always blow right by the Costco wage model into $100 an hour territory.

120 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:50:15pm

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Can any RWNJs explain why not pay nothing at all and citizenship only for white male landowners?

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They don’t do nuance and “gray areas” well, so maybe they can explain that.

121 Weet  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:50:26pm

Pretty good article on the new terrorism video in regards to Sochi.
An ‘Ansar al-Sunna’ tied group in Dagestan is the group that put out the video.
Russia to study video threatening Sochi Olympics

Part of the Video itself with commentary by ITN

122 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:50:41pm

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Can any RWNJs explain why not pay nothing at all and citizenship only for white male landowners?

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I always like that “Why not set the wages at $100/hr and make everybody rich?!,” because it assumes that A) anybody’s suggesting that the purpose of raising the minimum wage is to make people rich and B) that the person engaging in such sarcasm feels no need to justify his own wages.

123 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:50:49pm

re: #119 jaunte

Love how they always blow right by the Costco wage model into $100 an hour territory.

re: #120 calochortus

They don’t do nuance and “gray areas” well, so maybe they can explain that.

Wingnuts loves them some straw man.

124 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:50:53pm
125 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:52:22pm

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Can any RWNJs explain why not pay nothing at all and citizenship only for white male landowners?

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Can any wingnuts explain the concept of reductio ad absurdum?

126 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:53:01pm

Well, it looks like even when I’m gone for a few hours, the DERP continues apace.

Got back from seeing “The Wolf Of Wall Street”.

Loved it. Loved every one of its 179 testosterone-soaked, cocaine-fueled debauched minutes. Brilliance from DiCaprio, Jonah Hill, Margot Robbie, and Martin Scorsese.

And I’d say the best DiCaprio performance I’ve ever seen; I’m not a big fan, but for TWOWS, it’s certainly an Oscar-worthy performance. Makes Gordon Gekko look like a freaking saint.

127 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:53:44pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

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GWB had 291 EOs.
Obama has had 168.

presidency.ucsb.edu

128 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:54:09pm

That ends that:

129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:54:21pm

re: #119 jaunte

Love how they always blow right by the Costcowage model into $100 an hour territory.

To get serious about it, it is because they have no understanding of Economics as a science beyond business economics.

There is labor as a business commodity, which puts people on the same level as staples, toner and copier paper, another expense to be minimized, and then there is the social and human value of labor as a component not only of human dignity, but also the ability to live and support one’s family and give them a chance a t a better future.

Not to mention the fact that paper and toner can be disposed of at no loss to them, but when people get put out on the street, who gets stuck dealing with the expenses and problems that creates?

130 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:54:54pm

re: #117 Ian G.

Yup. GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!!

/////////////////

In all seriousness, the cold won’t be as awful as 2 weeks ago with the “polar vortex”, but snow will be pretty significant. 6-10 inches in the city and Nassau (probably more towards 10 in Nassau), 10-14 in Suffolk.

Most storms are worst “north and west” of the city when it comes to snowfall totals, but not this one. If you’re in Orange County or the Poconos, you’ll only see a couple of inches.

I’m so not looking forward to this. While I’m self-employed and work from home, my wife has to go from here in Islip to Woodbury for work.

And boy, do the morons come out in force when it starts snowing out here.

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:57:07pm

Obama says some people don’t like him because he is Black, Breitbart erupts with racism.

132 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:57:14pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Andrew McKeown
@APMcKeownTX

Retired Army Officer - Blocked by many intolerant liberals that want to surpress opposing viewpoints #Libertarian #Freedom #Zionist #2A #WarEagle #GodBlessTexas

Dallas area, Texas

133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:58:21pm

re: #130 makeitstop

And boy, do the morons come out in force when it starts snowing out here.

I read about a massive pileup on the Autobahn outside Frankfurt, it was caused when the low-hanging sun came out from behind a cloud, blinding a driver to the backed-up traffic ahead of him.

Which confirmed my theory: come rain, snow or shine…they drive like idiots!!!

134 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:58:41pm

re: #132 jaunte

That’s what makes it so funny. He talks ‘intolerance’ then he’s the one of throws out blocks.

135 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:59:02pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Obama says some people don’t like him because he is Black, Breitbart erupts with racism.

Thus showing they aren’t the real racists.
/

136 Mattand  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:01:56pm

re: #104 leftynyc

OT - fellow New Yorkers/tri-state region - my phone just beeped to inform that the winter storm watch has been upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning for most of our area for tomorrow night/Wed morning. Everyone be careful as it’s also supposed to be crazy cold.

Same down here in South Jersey/Philly. Where the freak did this thing materialize from?

137 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:02:31pm

re: #135 calochortus

They don’t think referring to Michelle as “that fat pig-cow” or referring to “Obama’s purple monkey lips” is racist. They think it takes bravery to speak so honestly. That’s why they are the REAL patriots.

138 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:03:24pm

This oughta piss everybody off - a mashup between Ozzy and A-Ha…

Pretty well done, though.

Youtube Video

139 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:04:09pm
140 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:04:28pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Twitter has empowered thousands of wanna-be talk show hosts, ranting away and ‘hanging up’ on any responders they find disagreeable.

141 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:04:49pm

re: #139 Kragar

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Hell, that’s tame compared to the Breitbartians. They want her charged with perjury for testimony she gave back in Jan 2012.

142 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:05:39pm

re: #140 jaunte

Twitter has empowered thousands of wanna-be talk show hosts, ranting way and ‘hanging up’ on any responders they find disagreeable.

Which is worse: Rush Limbaugh, or the many ‘El Rushbo’ wannabes?

143 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:06:10pm

I’m at work today and the “I have a dream” speech is playing on loop in the break room.

144 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:06:24pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Which is worse: Rush Limbaugh, or the many ‘El Rushbo’ wannabes?

Rush, because he has a larger audience and corporate sponsors.

145 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:06:58pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

He’s one of the people who set the pattern, and has vastly greater influence, so I think he’s a bigger negative.

146 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:07:49pm

re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord

Rush, because he has a larger audience and corporate sponsors.

And more ex-wives.

147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:09:10pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

And more ex-wives.

and a bigger ego than all the wanna-be’s put together…

148 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:10:54pm
149 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:11:16pm

BBL

150 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:12:14pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Which is worse: Rush Limbaugh, or the many ‘El Rushbo’ wannabes?

The former has clout. It’s not just that he spews stuff, but that people quote what he spews as though it was a pronouncement from authority. And over time that authority has calcified, and now actual politicians have to apologize for contradicting him. He’s been given actual influence.

151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:14:17pm

re: #150 The Ghost of a Flea

The former has clout. It’s not just that he spews stuff, but that people quote what he spews as though it was a pronouncement from authority. And over time that authority has calcified, and now actual politicians have to apologize for contradicting him. He’s been given actual influence.

A one-man Tea Party?

152 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:14:45pm

re: #28 piratedan

boy’s got a mind like a steel trap, nothing gets in and nothing gets out…..

He’s about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. (/leghorn)

153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:15:26pm

re: #152 chadu

He’s about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. (/leghorn)

dumb as a bag of hammers (/leghorn)

154 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:15:54pm

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

A one-man Tea Party?

The face that launched a thousand shitheels.

155 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:17:06pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Which is worse: Rush Limbaugh, or the many ‘El Rushbo’ wannabes?

Answered: Rush Limbaugh is worse.

156 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:19:00pm

re: #101 dog philosopher

Pew Research Center/USA Today. Jan. 15-19, 2014

“Do you believe Chris Christie when he says he didn’t have any knowledge of his aides’ involvement in this incident until it became public, or do you not believe him?”

Believe Teh Christie 32%
Do not believe Teh Christie 58%
Fish 11%

I believe in Harvey Dent Abe Vigoda.

157 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:19:41pm

re: #156 chadu

I believe in Harvey Dent Abe Vigoda.

abevigoda.com

158 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:20:56pm

re: #125 Ian G.

Can any wingnuts explain the concept of reductio ad absurdum?

Quit using German words. We speak American here.

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159 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:22:40pm

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

To get serious about it, it is because they have no understanding of Economics as a science beyond business economics.

Flag on the play. Facts not in evidence. 10 yards.

160 BusyMonster  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:23:20pm

re: #31 Pie-onist Overlord

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OMG, he just cannot get more oblivious than that.

Yes, Ron, that’s fucking racism. Yes, it is as humiliating to a civilized, intelligent adult as a giant crap apple sticking out of your butt-cheeks, yes it smells just as badly, and yes, you are just as socially ostracized as a grown man would be who shit in his pants and then bragged about it.

161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:27:26pm

re: #159 chadu

Flag on the play. Facts not in evidence. 10 yards.

They understand basic business economics, namely that if their tax rates are lower, they have more money left over. Beyond that, little evidence.

162 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:28:42pm

re: #102 Kragar

Page that, Kragar. Excellent article!

163 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:31:29pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

They understand basic business economics, namely that if their tax rates are lower, they have more money left over. Beyond that, little evidence.

That’s not understanding a process, that’s nearly a fricking axiom.

Penalty stands.

164 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:37:03pm

Satty got hacked! Just got this spam from sattv4u2

I removed your real name…this time. CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD!

165 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:38:29pm

re: #160 BusyMonster

When I was in high school I was very much a minority (white kid in an inner city school). As I saw my classmates applying for minority scholarships that I was not eligible for because of my ethnicity, I railed against the racism that would put their skin color over achievement. I asked out loud and more than once why there couldn’t be a white response to the NAACP and other orgs offering minority scholarships.

When I got to college I was surrounded by more white students than I ever had been before. It was then I understood “white privilege” and understood that despite being poor I had an advantage others didn’t simply because of the color of my skin.

I was asking the same question as Ron Paul when I was 17 years old and very ignorant to the ways of the world. I didn’t remain ignorant but Ron Paul apparently did.

166 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:40:00pm

re: #163 chadu

That’s not understanding a process, that’s nearly a fricking axiom.

Penalty stands.

After further review, the penalty was called by a liberal. It is therefore reversed, and the liberal is to be ejected. First Down!

///

167 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:40:24pm

re: #164 darthstar

Satty got hacked! Just got this spam from sattv4u2

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I removed your real name…this time. CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD!

The NSA has gotten to him!!

//

168 prairiefire  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:41:05pm

re: #136 Mattand

Same down here in South Jersey/Philly. Where the freak did this thing materialize from?

It’s another polar vortex.

169 prairiefire  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:42:03pm

re: #168 prairiefire

It’s another polar vortex.

Time to get out the Spandex.

170 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:42:11pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

The NSA has gotten to him!!

//

It’s about time.

171 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:45:15pm
172 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:45:23pm

The link in question belongs to a porn twitter feed, but has no NSFW material in that particular tweet.

173 BusyMonster  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:51:17pm

re: #165 Flying Squirrel Girl

When I was in high school I was very much a minority (white kid in an inner city school). As I saw my classmates applying for minority scholarships that I was not eligible for because of my ethnicity, I railed against the racism that would put their skin color over achievement. I asked out loud and more than once why there couldn’t be a white response to the NAACP and other orgs offering minority scholarships.

When I got to college I was surrounded by more white students than I ever had been before. It was then I understood “white privilege” and understood that despite being poor I had an advantage others didn’t simply because of the color of my skin.

I was asking the same question as Ron Paul when I was 17 years old and very ignorant to the ways of the world. I didn’t remain ignorant but Ron Paul apparently did.

LOL I had almost the same experience, except I bitched at an Hispanic friend of mine about white guy scholarships, and he set me straight. I remember feeling pretty small that day. But then it became very obvious to me.

I grew up with the kind of lazy, de-facto racism that the GOP pines for and wants to re-impress upon our social order. Each time I realized what I was doing that was bigoted, I was ashamed of how petty and small-minded a thought that was.

So, now some 40+ years later, I’m pretty rough on people who are still figuring this crap out. I don’t feel people have a lot of excuses for being lazy in the head — it costs us nothing at all to think more carefully, ya know?

174 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:53:32pm

re: #80 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s a pretty deep vein to mine in the way that Putin uses “manliness” as part of his image management as a dictator. Not just the shirtless thing…the “Putin’s girls,” the outdoorsmanship, etc. Old school male potency equals leadership potency stuff.

It gets really creepy when you factor in the anti-gay part though.

I can’t believe people are impressed by this. It’s so…obvious.

I made a similar comment in yesterday’s morning thread. I was using the words over and compensation.

And, no I didn’t mean Putin is a homosexual closet resident. But he sure comes off like he is sacred that even thinking allowing homosexuals basic rights paints him as one so out come the guns, fire up the race car, take off the shirt…see me as manly man.

Funny thing, there most likely are some rather large athletic manly men homosexual males that are likely even more “macho” than Vladimir.

Maybe they should put on some manly man costumes, grab some manly man props and show up to support Putin somewhere he would be glad to show them off as Russia’s best. And after the “show” take Vlad backstage and beat the holy hell out of him. And then as they leave say…who’s the punk?

Why Am I getting a feeling that Sochi 2014 has a chance to come out like Berlin 1936? Will Vlad get put in place by some kind of resounding demonstration?

175 palomino  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:53:42pm

She’s a fucking idiot. The “I Have a Dream” speech is a very long and eloquent use of the “race card.” Her ilk would have pejoratively referred to him as a “race agitator” back in the 60s.

Palin is talking to old white people who want blacks (and Hispanics, gays and others) to shut up and be less visible like they were 50 years ago (ironically when MLK gave his speech).

176 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:55:13pm

Hopefully, one day, every single race card will read: EXPIRED.

177 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:55:35pm

re: #171 darthstar

The first photo ever taken of the Rolling Stones, by Philip Townsend, 1962

Muppet Baby Stones.

178 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:56:15pm

re: #175 palomino

They would have called him a “race pimp” or a “race hustler.”

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:56:52pm

latest on that plant explosion in Omaha:

180 Mattand  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:58:20pm

re: #175 palomino

She’s a fucking idiot. The “I Have a Dream” speech is a very long and eloquent use of the “race card.” Her ilk would have pejoratively referred to him as a “race agitator” back in the 60s.

Palin is talking to old white people who want blacks (and Hispanics, gays and others) to shut up and be less visible like they were 50 years ago (ironically when MLK gave his speech).

Depends on what your definition of old is. I know far too many people in their 40’s who think like that.

And to be honest, the few people in their teens and 20’s that I know are not exactly giving me warm and fuzzes.

181 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:58:56pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

58% don’t believe he’s being honest, which naturally means that tomorrow Morning Joke..er, Joe will try extra hard to scream that anybody who doesn’t think the governor is being totally honest and wanting to move past all this is a partisan doody-head.

Go with Joke..it works for me!

: )

182 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 1:59:32pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

After further review, the penalty was called by a liberal. It is therefore reversed, and the liberal is to be ejected. First Down!

///

Well-played. Curses!

183 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:03:27pm
184 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:05:03pm

re: #172 Kragar

The link in question belongs to a porn twitter feed, but has no NSFW material in that particular tweet.

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How do I insert the Nathan Fillion handwavey gif here?

185 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:05:36pm

No doubt Palin, instead of running for “Miss Alaska” would have run for “Miss KKK” if she had been old enough when MLK was working for civil rights. And could someone tell me how she managed to take up space in 6 colleges that she actually conned into thinking she had any incentive to get an education?

Have I told you how much I totally loathe that useless, lying grifter? Mediocrity has a much better reputation than she does.

186 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:06:23pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

latest on that plant explosion in Omaha:

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It’s a sad commentary that I read “Obama” for “Omaha.”

…

Wait for it.

half-/

187 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:07:29pm

re: #184 chadu

How do I insert the Nathan Fillion handwavey gif here?

Image: 191.gif

188 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:08:56pm

Why do I suspect that Omaha plant hasn’t been inspected in a good long while?

189 chadu  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:12:21pm

re: #187 Kragar

Not helpful, wiseass. ;)

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:12:58pm

Stay classy, Steve Stockman!

191 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:17:55pm

re: #172 Kragar

The link in question belongs to a porn twitter feed, but has no NSFW material in that particular tweet.

[Embedded content]

“There’s porn on twitter? I’m shocked, SHOCKED! that I didn’t hear of this sooner. “—Abraham Lincoln

192 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:18:41pm

Oh damn.

Omaha Fire chief Bernard Kanger: There is no possibility of survivors left in the building - @AlissaSkelton
see original on twitter.com

Next presser at 8 pm.

193 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:20:15pm

HURR HURRRR!!! WHAT GOOD IS IT TO BE A WHITE MURICAN IF THEY KEEP GIVIN CITIZENSHIP TO THESE BROWN MEXICANS & INDIANS & CHINAMENS!!!11!!!!

194 palomino  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:21:23pm

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Can any RWNJs explain why not pay nothing at all and citizenship only for white male landowners?

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I don’t understand the hostility to raising the minimum wage. It’s not going to put McDonald’s or most other minimum wage employers out of business. Or even hurt them if the min. wage increases are modest.

And yet there is great anger out there among TP types over a small wage increase for the poorest Americans. Why? Could it be because it disproportionately would help minorities and urbanites?

195 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:24:22pm

ZOMG HORRIBLE!!! SOMEBODY WIPED THE WORD “BIGOT” ON THE DIRT ON THEIR CAR!!!!

196 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:24:39pm

re: #194 palomino

It’s because they feel those workers shouldn’t be paid more, that their low wages should serve as an incentive for them to want to get a better, higher paying job and that if the min. wage goes up, people will just be content to work at Pizza Hut for $13/hr their whole lives.

197 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:25:17pm

re: #195 Pie-onist Overlord

Someone missed the “negative publicity” lesson at business school.

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:27:18pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone missed the “negative publicity” lesson at business school.

If I were a gay person I would not want to buy a cake from this bakery. Are they the only bakery in town?

I would totally bake a cake for them (or a pie) but I’m not a professional baker, even so I am sure there must be plenty of bakeries who would be happy to have gay customers.

199 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:28:15pm

“It’s not the first accident at the plant. In August 2002, a 45-year-old man was crushed to death by a mixing machine.

“The company at the time was fined $13,600 by OSHA for five “serious” violations and one other violation discovered during an investigation of the accident.

“Separately, in 2012, the firm was fined $10,430 by OSHA to settle six “serious” violations found in a planned inspection. An OSHA report did not detail the violations but said they were in the following categories: Medical services and first aid; handling materials, general; general requirements for machines; abrasive wheel machinery; hand and portable powered tools and equipment; and wiring methods, components and equipment.”

omaha.com

The owner of the private co, Steven Silver, donated to McCain/Palin, the RNC and Mike Johanns.

campaignmoney.com

200 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:28:33pm

re: #139 Kragar

So the obligatory character assassination has begun. Fun times.

I don’t care what she may or may not have embellished. It’s not going to make me vote Republican in this state ever again. Ever. Wendy is my choice for Texas governor. Period.

201 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:28:33pm

I’m guessing a number of family values Republicans will be scrambling for tickets to Sochi after they see this (especially those with a wide stance)

202 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:29:20pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Which is worse: Rush Limbaugh, or the many ‘El Rushbo’ wannabes?

Rush, because he actually has influence in the GOP.

203 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:35:31pm

I hate to break it to you, Glenn, but the election was back in 2012. He got re-elected.

204 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:36:41pm

re: #203 Lidane

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But remember, the only one playing the race card is the President.

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205 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:38:54pm
206 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:40:02pm

Gawd, this is really terrible.

Editor’s note: via @AP, there were 38 people inside the Omaha plant building before explosion. - Tom

Any time a company is found guilty of OSHA violations, they should be fined 10% of its current value. Do that, and these kinds of incidents would be rare. If a company protests, they don’t need to be in business, risking lives.

207 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:45:10pm

re: #206 Justanotherhuman

Gawd, this is really terrible.

Editor’s note: via @AP, there were 38 people inside the Omaha plant building before explosion. - Tom

Any time a company is found guilty of OSHA violations, they should be fined 10% of its current value. Do that, and these kinds of incidents would be rare. If a company protests, they don’t need to be in business, risking lives.

Typical corporate philosophy: Labor is expendable, money is not.

208 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:46:30pm

re: #206 Justanotherhuman

Gawd, this is really terrible.

Editor’s note: via @AP, there were 38 people inside the Omaha plant building before explosion. - Tom

Any time a company is found guilty of OSHA violations, they should be fined 10% of its current value. Do that, and these kinds of incidents would be rare. If a company protests, they don’t need to be in business, risking lives.

To be fair, some violations are pretty minor, and that would be totally disproportionate.

209 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:53:47pm

WTFITS

210 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:53:50pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone missed the “negative publicity” lesson at business school.

I don’t think these two care. They really don’t understand that the future for them consists of one of two possibilities:

1. They truckle under and bake the cake as ordered by the court.

2. They suffer whatever punishment the judge decides to impose for Contempt of Court.

211 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:55:25pm

re: #190 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, at least we know what he’s been up to and spending his campaign money on. /

212 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:55:53pm

That was quick. Your info could have wound up anywhere in the world.

2 nabbed at Texas border in credit card fraud case

bigstory.ap.org

McALLEN, Texas (AP) — Account information stolen during the Target security breach is now being divided up and sold off regionally, a South Texas police chief said Monday following the arrest of two Mexican citizens who authorities say arrived at the border with 96 fraudulent credit cards.

“McAllen Police Chief Victor Rodriguez said Mary Carmen Garcia, 27, and Daniel Guardiola Dominguez, 28, both of Monterrey, Mexico, used cards containing the account information of South Texas residents. Rodriguez said they were used to buy tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of merchandise at national retailers in the area including Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Toys R Us.

“They’re obviously selling the data sets by region,” Rodriguez said.”

213 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:57:54pm

The season finale for Sleepy Hollow is tonight! I, along with the 2nd NC Regt will be somewhere in the show (assuming the scene was not cut) as modern Rev War re-enactors playing as …wait for it…modern Rev War re-enactors. You can see the jokes a mile away as our awakened 18th century hero gets very confused seeing a bunch of people in Continental Army uniforms in 21st century America. So…tune and and get a laugh at the ridiculous stuff the art direction people put in what was supposed to be a Revolutionary War re-enactment camp (like the 19th century train lanterns and the lantern hangers from Hobby Lobby, along with circling the tents around the campfire??!), not to mention the farb uniforms and weapons the actual extras were wearing The bit with re-enactors in a golf cart is icing on the cake (although they admittedly did put that in as comic relief) At least we were able to get them to remove the artillery piece that was on an improvised carriage without any wheels…

214 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:58:35pm

And what the frak. This morning the weather reports were indicating that NYC metro would be dodging a significant snow. 1-3 N/W of NYC, 3-5 in NYC, and a bit more towards Eastern Long Island and down the Jersey shore.

Now?

Major snow throughout entire region.

erh.noaa.gov

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW YORK HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING FOR SNOW…WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO
6 AM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* LOCATIONS…NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY…SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER
COUNTY…AND SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD COUNTY.

* HAZARD TYPES…HEAVY SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS…SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 6 TO 10 INCHES.

* WINDS…NORTH 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH.

* WIND CHILLS…AS LOW AS 10 BELOW ZERO LATE TUESDAY NIGHT.

* TEMPERATURES…10 TO 19.

* VISIBILITIES…ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS AT TIMES.

I could snark that I would implore whoever was busy praying for snow to… well.. stop! However, I enjoy the snow. It’s the shoveling/plowing/snowblowing that sucks.

And this will be a snow that sticks around for a bit courtesy of Polar Vortex II, the freeze-down booglaloo.

215 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:00:09pm

Looks like the gold medal in MLK day fuckery goes to the Russians.

216 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:02:09pm

re: #208 aagcobb

To be fair, some violations are pretty minor, and that would be totally disproportionate.

I think it would work as incentive to pay attention and run your business according to the law. Is a life only worth a $14K fine?

217 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:04:12pm

re: #214 lawhawk

Whoa. It was 60 here today and beautiful.

But wait—tomorrow a high of 43, low 16 with rain and possible snow. In the 30s on Wed. Damn it.

218 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:04:57pm

re: #215 darthstar

Looks like the gold medal in MLK day fuckery goes to the Russians.

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It seems simple enough: (White) Russian woman superior, black woman inferior.

Typical sick racist shit.

219 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:06:02pm

re: #214 lawhawk

well, crap. I was hoping MrBWS would be home by Thursday night before it goes below zero again here.
Fingers crossed that your power stays on, damage is minimal and hubs doesn’t have to spend another winter in New England…

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:06:46pm

re: #215 darthstar

Looks like the gold medal in MLK day fuckery goes to the Russians.

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good freakin grief!

221 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:09:21pm

*FACEPALM*
Ben you are a freaking embarrassment to Teh Juice. Pie-onist demands your resignation.
You get a PIE in the face. But a soap foam one, not one made of actual yummy whipped cream.

222 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:10:20pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hope so too.

223 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:11:34pm

re: #215 darthstar

Looks like the gold medal in MLK day fuckery goes to the Russians.

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20 yrs ago that POS wouldn’t have been an “heiress” of an oligarch, but the daughter of a Soviet bureaucrat. And her mother is an American professor? WTF?

How can these racist idiots lived with themselves? I suppose all that money and privilege gives you brain damage.

224 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:12:21pm

Commercial data mining - far more offensive than government meta data collection.

225 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:13:27pm

re: #214 lawhawk

And what the frak. This morning the weather reports were indicating that NYC metro would be dodging a significant snow. 1-3 N/W of NYC, 3-5 in NYC, and a bit more towards Eastern Long Island and down the Jersey shore.

Now?

Major snow throughout entire region.

erh.noaa.gov

I could snark that I would implore whoever was busy praying for snow to… well.. stop! However, I enjoy the snow. It’s the shoveling/plowing/snowblowing that sucks.

And this will be a snow that sticks around for a bit courtesy of Polar Vortex II, the freeze-down booglaloo.

We’re in line for 10-14 inches out here on LI. Not liking the prospect, but I keep reminding myself ‘It’s January, dude. This is what happens in Winter.’

226 bratwurst  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:15:42pm

Been reading the apology from the Grantland editor concerning the story in which the author outed a transgendered person who subsequently committed suicide over and over because I can’t believe my eyes. He contends that 13-15 people ready the story before publication and not one of them could see what the problem was before publication. I am speechless.

227 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:17:04pm

re: #214 lawhawk

And what the frak. This morning the weather reports were indicating that NYC metro would be dodging a significant snow. 1-3 N/W of NYC, 3-5 in NYC, and a bit more towards Eastern Long Island and down the Jersey shore.

Now?

Major snow throughout entire region.

erh.noaa.gov

I could snark that I would implore whoever was busy praying for snow to… well.. stop! However, I enjoy the snow. It’s the shoveling/plowing/snowblowing that sucks.

And this will be a snow that sticks around for a bit courtesy of Polar Vortex II, the freeze-down booglaloo.

Same.
Went from 1-3 to now possibly 6-10.
Fuck that.

228 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:17:25pm

re: #226 bratwurst

Been reading the apology from the Grantland editor concerning the story in which the author outed a transgendered person who subsequently committed suicide over and over because I can’t believe my eyes. He contends that 13-15 people ready the story before publication and not one of them could see what the problem was before publication. I am speechless.

Worst editors ever.

229 palomino  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:18:30pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Which is worse: Rush Limbaugh, or the many ‘El Rushbo’ wannabes?

Rush over the Rushbos. After all, he’s your party’s most popular spokesman two decades running.

230 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:20:03pm

Wow, this is interesting….
Times Square bomb plot: Pakistani Army major arrested

A Pakistani Army major, who was until recently a serving officer, has been arrested in connection with the failed Times Square bomb plot.

A Pakistani law enforcement sources said that the major had mobile phone contact with Shahzad on the day of the attempted bombing, including one conversation at the same time the bomber was allegedly parking his car loaded with propane tanks and explosives.
…
In all, 11 people have been detained in Pakistan, including the co-owner of a prominent catering firm used by the US embassy in Islamabad.

He had also met the naturalised American in Islamabad, he claimed.

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:22:49pm
232 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:24:32pm

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Wow, this is interesting….
Times Square bomb plot: Pakistani Army major arrested

A Pakistani Army major, who was until recently a serving officer, has been arrested in connection with the failed Times Square bomb plot.

He had also met the naturalised American in Islamabad, he claimed.

Ooops, sorry. Old article I picked up from Gus’s twitter. I didn’t check the date, my bad.

233 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:26:16pm

Dark_Falcon,

It would be nice if you can go back re-read and maybe edit this comment

234 palomino  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:26:42pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s because they feel those workers shouldn’t be paid more, that their low wages should serve as an incentive for them to want to get a better, higher paying job and that if the min. wage goes up, people will just be content to work at Pizza Hut for $13/hr their whole lives.

But many people WILL work at Pizza Hut or Target or Walmart or McDonalds for their whole lives. Should they live in poverty for most of their lives because they don’t rise to middle management or get a college degree? Let’s face it: not everyone has the intellect or skills to advance very far in the workaday world. Does that mean they don’t deserve a decent wage?

The response I hear from the right is usually along the lines of, “Screw them, let them eat cake.” It’s utterly lacking in both compassion and recognizing certain economic realities.

235 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:29:54pm

re: #234 palomino

Fully agree. I think anyone working full time (that is 40 hours or more a week) should earn a living wage.

236 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:30:04pm
237 gwangung  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:30:24pm

re: #226 bratwurst

Been reading the apology from the Grantland editor concerning the story in which the author outed a transgendered person who subsequently committed suicide over and over because I can’t believe my eyes. He contends that 13-15 people ready the story before publication and not one of them could see what the problem was before publication. I am speechless.

I can well see that. That is privilege, writ large.

I hope they feel extreme guilt at this. Not because I want to punish them, but for them to realize they fucked it up. Totally. And that fucking it up has consequences a lot more serious than not getting page clicks. And that they strive a hell of a lot harder not to fuck up in the future.

238 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:31:12pm

re: #225 makeitstop

I get snow. It’s January. I used to live in Albany. We got snow. A lot.

But usually when we got a forecast for snow, they don’t suddenly double/triple/quadruple the amount expected less than 24 hours before the storm hits.

This is one heck of a late blooming storm.

239 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:32:51pm

240 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:34:11pm

re: #226 bratwurst

Been reading the apology from the Grantland editor concerning the story in which the author outed a transgendered person who subsequently committed suicide over and over because I can’t believe my eyes. He contends that 13-15 people ready the story before publication and not one of them could see what the problem was before publication. I am speechless.

“I asked all my Dudebros and they were cool with it.”

Fucking assholes

241 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:34:57pm

re: #233 Usually refered to as anyways

Dark_Falcon,

It would be nice if you can go back re-read and maybe edit this comment

Done:

It’s a serious risk. The Islamists will be doing whatever they can to murder those who believe differently from their reactionary interpretation of Islam.

Edited for tense agreement. ‘Islamist’ ≠ ‘Muslim’ in my vocabulary.

242 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:37:56pm

re: #238 lawhawk

I get snow. It’s January. I used to live in Albany. We got snow. A lot.

But usually when we got a forecast for snow, they don’t suddenly double/triple/quadruple the amount expected less than 24 hours before the storm hits.

This is one heck of a late blooming storm.

True. The initial predictions I saw this morning for my neck of the woods was 1-4 inches. Each revision upwards during the day was met with a hearty ‘WTF?’ over here.

I’m hoping they’re wrong, but I get the feeling they won’t be this time.

243 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:39:12pm

Thank you, ESB.

244 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:40:37pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Done:

It’s a serious risk. The Islamists will be doing whatever they can to murder those who believe differently from their reactionary interpretation of Islam.

Edited for tense agreement. ‘Islamist’ ≠ ‘Muslim’ in my vocabulary.

What’s with the downdings?

245 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:41:35pm

I guess all of America is talking about Seattle’s Richard Sherman today and his outburst after the game yesterday against San Francisco. I understand there is no room for getting all bigoted about it, but I think what is being lost in the whole debate and outrage is the interview itself.

All the time everyone is told, don’t judge me by my skin, judge me by my actions. Maybe he should have considered his actions.

I have a feeling in a few years when Stewart grows up a bit more and is out of the game, he will look back on the whole thing and be left with one feeling all his own. Embarrassment.

I can hear him in a few years saying “what was I doing/thinking?” Maybe he will be able to use it all to teach some kids class rises above all color, religion, politics…everything. And when you maintain class, it gives the bigots and haters a whole lot less ammo to be outraged about.

And on this day, I should think one MLK would help teach him that lesson.

246 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:41:42pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Fuck eh…

Here here I was thinking you would say, “Oh shit” forgot the word ‘Radical’.

247 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:42:22pm

WTFITS
Hey FReep! You are the ones who have ALL TEH GUNZ!!!!! So it’s really YOU who want to murder all the “Socialists” not the other way around.

248 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:43:32pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

There was a football game yesterday?

249 Bear  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:44:58pm

For the folks in the snowy East, you might take a look at this: weather.com
However consider that your snow does mean water and this area is without.

250 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:46:11pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

I guess all of America is talking about Seattle’s Richard Sherman today and his outburst after the game yesterday against San Francisco. I understand there is no room for getting all bigoted about it, but I think what is being lost in the whole debate and outrage is the interview itself.

All the time everyone is told, don’t judge me by my skin, judge me by my actions. Maybe he should have considered his actions.

I have a feeling in a few years when Stewart grows up a bit more and is out of the game, he will look back on the whole thing and be left with one feeling all his own. Embarrassment.

I can hear him in a few years saying “what was I doing/thinking?” Maybe he will be able to use it all to teach some kids class rises above all color, religion, politics…everything. And when you maintain class, it gives the bigots and haters a whole lot less ammo to be outraged about.

And on this day, I should think one MLK would help teach him that lesson.

Not just the interview, but also the unsportsmanlike conduct he showed before it.

251 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:47:15pm
252 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:47:26pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

I guess all of America is talking about Seattle’s Richard Sherman today and his outburst after the game yesterday against San Francisco. I understand there is no room for getting all bigoted about it, but I think what is being lost in the whole debate and outrage is the interview itself.

All the time everyone is told, don’t judge me by my skin, judge me by my actions. Maybe he should have considered his actions.

I have a feeling in a few years when Stewart grows up a bit more and is out of the game, he will look back on the whole thing and be left with one feeling all his own. Embarrassment.

I can hear him in a few years saying “what was I doing/thinking?” Maybe he will be able to use it all to teach some kids class rises above all color, religion, politics…everything. And when you maintain class, it gives the bigots and haters a whole lot less ammo to be outraged about.

And on this day, I should think one MLK would help teach him that lesson.

I don’t think there was anything wrong or unusual with his interview but I did lol when the interviewer said “nobody’s talking about you”. It seems this MLK day is about racial outrage and accusations. I really don’t think it’s a great way to mark MLK’s legacy, I hope this doesn’t become a tradition. Kinda bums me out.

253 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:48:08pm

re: #251 Kragar

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Trash-talking in professional sports? I’m shocked, SHOCKED!!!

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254 urbanmeemaw  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:50:34pm

re: #31 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn and Eddie’s hero!!!! Which may explain why the NSA, in existence since 1952, had to be “exposed” in 2013 when an African American Democrat was President.

255 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:50:47pm

re: #27 Feline Fearless Leader

radical cow faction

oh oh oh that is an even better band name than ‘unknown unknowns’!!!

256 urbanmeemaw  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:51:23pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Some in the comments section were blaming the workers.

257 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:51:42pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

What’s with the downdings?

My guess is an overly broad brush.

258 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:52:05pm
259 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:53:36pm

HP sticks thumb in Microsoft’s eye, extends Windows 7 option for new machines

Customers clamor for ‘anything but Windows 8’ alternative

Good news. I have to buy a new laptop as a backup for my windows 8 machine because it’s so unreliable. I was worried I wouldn’t be able to buy a Win7 machine. Avoid 8 if you can.

260 compound_Idaho  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:54:46pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

I coached baseball for many many many years. If I saw my guys trash talking, they found themselves on the bench. It’s just not the way you conduct yourself on the field or off.

261 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:55:30pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

What’s with the downdings?

“Islamist” connotes a negative image of Muslims as bomb-throwing radicals. It has become a pejorative in most circles.

It doesn’t matter about one’s race, sex, religion or politics—call people what they are—if they’re dangerous radicals who don’t mind stooping to violence, say so, but don’t use a broad brush to taint others who may share the same characteristics of race, sex, religion or politics.

262 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:56:15pm

re: #257 abolitionist

My guess is an overly broad brush.

I thought I was properly restrained in my scope. If others disagree, I’d ask them to state why.

Question answered.

263 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:56:53pm

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

“Islamist” connotes a negative image of Muslims as bomb-throwing radicals. It has become a pejorative in most circles.

It doesn’t matter about one’s race, sex, religion or politics—call people what they are—if they’re dangerous radicals who don’t mind stooping to violence, say so, but don’t use a broad brush to taint others who may share the same characteristics of race, sex, religion or politics.

Personally, I just use “sectarian extremists”.

264 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:57:43pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

i thought I was properly restrained in my scope. If others disagree, I’d ask them to state why.

Maybe jihadist?

265 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:58:30pm

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I just use “sectarian extremists”.

One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s insurgent. Fuckers.

266 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:58:43pm

re: #264 Political Atheist

Maybe jihadist?

Nope. “Peaceful inner struggle”

267 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:59:58pm

re: #248 Kragar

There was a football game yesterday?

Well Kragar, you know the media. Even if you didn’t watch the game, you get to hear about Sherman and all the ugly reactions.

There are always games.

268 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:01:38pm

HURR HURR!!!1!!!

269 gwangung  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:01:47pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

Meh. Sherman didn’t kill anyone. Sherman didn’t rape anyone. Sherman didn’t drive while drunk. He’s not even at the John Rocker level of big-mouthism.

I find it interesting that both detractors and supporters highlight his background as opposed to the the rivalry and grudge match he was involved in with Crabtree (which has a long history in all sports).

270 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:02:46pm

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

“Islamist” connotes a negative image of Muslims as bomb-throwing radicals. It has become a pejorative in most circles.

It doesn’t matter about one’s race, sex, religion or politics—call people what they are—if they’re dangerous radicals who don’t mind stooping to violence, say so, but don’t use a broad brush to taint others who may share the same characteristics of race, sex, religion or politics.

I have always distinguished between Muslims and Islamists, with the latter referring to those who buy into one of the tyrannical interpretations of Islam. I’ve never conflated the majority of Muslims with the extremists.

271 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:03:18pm

Might be time for a feel good story? And from Texas!


Texas officer stops to play catch with child

272 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:04:33pm

re: #269 gwangung

Meh. Sherman didn’t kill anyone. Sherman didn’t rape anyone. Sherman didn’t drive while drunk. He’s not even at the John Rocker level of big-mouthism.

I find it interesting that both detractors and supporters highlight his background as opposed to the the rivalry and grudge match he was involved in with Crabtree (which has a long history in all sports).

Rival players on rival teams, both having traded barbs and insults both on and off the field all year, and we’re supposed to be surprised that one was holding a grudge?

273 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:05:09pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

I have always distinguished between Muslims and Islamists, with the latter referring to those who buy into one of the tyrannical interpretations of Islam. I’ve never conflated the majority of Muslims with the extremists.

They’re Qutbists. en.wikipedia.org

Or as my Sheikh calls them, “agents of shaitan.”

274 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:06:38pm
275 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:06:40pm

Philly’s weather for tomorrow: forecast.weather.gov

276 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:06:40pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Might be time for a feel good story? And from Texas!

Texas officer stops to play catch with child

Good PR. (Hoping the officer has official support for such action.)

277 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:09:01pm

re: #273 Dr Lizardo

They’re Qutbists. en.wikipedia.org

Or as my Sheikh calls them, “agents of shaitan.”

I’d agree with that last, but I typically want to use a less religiously loaded term. A number of the folks here aren’t fond of references to Satan.

278 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:09:28pm

re: #269 gwangung

Meh. Sherman didn’t kill anyone. Sherman didn’t rape anyone. Sherman didn’t drive while drunk. He’s not even at the John Rocker level of big-mouthism.

I find it interesting that both detractors and supporters highlight his background as opposed to the the rivalry and grudge match he was involved in with Crabtree (which has a long history in all sports).

I don’t consider myself either detractor or supporter. I always try to be a realist. How do you think he will look back on it in a few years? I don’t know your age, but I do know as you age and you look back many times you will find yourself saying, “what was I thinking.”

And after seeing his education level, which I did not know until the media has told me everything, I got to thinking he was going to be one of the guys that will look back with embarrassment. He knows professional and great players act like it. He may have forgot it in the heat of the grudge rivalry, but it will forever be in the games history and he will cringe every time he sees it later.

279 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:09:49pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

I have always distinguished between Muslims and Islamists, with the latter referring to those who buy into one of the tyrannical interpretations of Islam. I’ve never conflated the majority of Muslims with the extremists.

Then you miss my entire point. “Islamist” is the same as “Muslim”, a follower of Islam, but it is being used the way you use it to denote a fundamentalist and violence prone proponent of jihad.

280 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:12:16pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

I’d agree with that last, but I typically want to use a less religiously loaded term. A number of the folks here aren’t fond of references to Satan.

Heh. The Qur’an makes numerous references to those who ‘spread mischief’ or ‘corruption’ in the world.


I just use the general rubric “sectarian extremists”; when I’m talking to my fellow Muslims, “Qutbists” is used most frequently.

But trying to explain Qutbism to someone who isn’t familiar with it isn’t always so easy.

281 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:14:28pm

Oh, good grief.

282 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:19:17pm

re: #281 Justanotherhuman

Oh, good grief.

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That sort of thing is definitely unsportsmanlike.

283 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:19:26pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

I have always distinguished between Muslims and Islamists, with the latter referring to those who buy into one of the tyrannical interpretations of Islam. I’ve never conflated the majority of Muslims with the extremists.

Using the term Islamists as opposed to perhaps radical Islamists infers you believe that your statement is true for all Islamists.

I didn’t think you meant that, perhaps I was wrong.

284 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:20:38pm

re: #276 abolitionist

Good PR. (Hoping the officer has official support for such action.)

“The Rosenberg Police Department shared the video on their Facebook page with the message, “While a 2 minute game of football might not mean anything, to some it could mean everything! #ReachThemBeforeTheWolvesDo”

285 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:20:50pm

re: #280 Dr Lizardo

But trying to explain Qutbism

i’d be satisfied if you’d just explain how to pronounce it

286 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:22:02pm

re: #285 dog philosopher

i’d be satisfied if you’d just explain how to pronounce it

Ku’toobism.

More or less.

287 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:22:05pm

re: #280 Dr Lizardo

Heh. The Qur’an makes numerous references to those who ‘spread mischief’ or ‘corruption’ in the world.

I just use the general rubric “sectarian extremists”; when I’m talking to my fellow Muslims, “Qutbists” is used most frequently.

But trying to explain Qutbism to someone who isn’t familiar with it isn’t always so easy.

It’s amazing how many people scream about the Muslim Brotherhood, often as part of screeching “BENGHAZI!!!11”, yet who do not know who Sayyid Qutb was.

288 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:23:06pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

I have always distinguished between Muslims and Islamists, with the latter referring to those who buy into one of the tyrannical interpretations of Islam. I’ve never conflated the majority of Muslims with the extremists.

i think wiksterpedia tends to support your interpretation:

‘Islamism (Islam+-ism) or Political Islam […] is a set of ideologies holding that “Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life”’

289 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:23:39pm

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

It’s amazing how many people scream about the Muslim Brotherhood, often as part of screeching “BENGHAZI!!!11”, yet who do not know who Sayyid Qutb was.

All too true. I doubt many of those same folks known nothing about Islam aside from what they hear from Pam Geller, Robert Spencer, etc.

290 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:24:03pm

Scary pup:

291 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:24:53pm

re: #281 Justanotherhuman

The Sports Authority Office in question is in Denver.

292 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:26:38pm

re: #291 Eclectic Cyborg

The Sports Authority Office in question is in Denver.

Yeah, go Broncos. : )

293 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:27:02pm

HURR HURR GUN CONTROL IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!1!!!!!!

294 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:27:49pm

For all of you getting ready to be, or being hammered by the weather…

REO Speedwagon, Riding the Storm Out, MIDNIGHT SPECIAL

Youtube Video


RBS

295 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:31:55pm

re: #294 RealityBasedSteve

This is what I will be watching tonight. Snow white horses. njtvonline.org

296 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:32:09pm

re: #293 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR GUN CONTROL IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!1!!!!!!

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“effecutal” way? Once again…

I guess old George Mason wasn’t thinking of Black folks back then, either.

297 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:33:35pm

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

“effecutal” way? Once again…

I guess old George Mason wasn’t thinking of Black folks back then, either.

Fake Quote, yada yada.

298 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:35:06pm

re: #297 Pie-onist Overlord

Fake Quote, yada yada.

both of the quotes or is one of them real?

299 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:35:46pm

re: #295 PhillyPretzel

This is what I will be watching tonight. Snow white horses. njtvonline.org

A friend took me to see them years ago, I’m not a horse person in any way, shape or form. (they actually scare me a little bit). I figured that I’d put up with it ‘cuz I knew she liked them. I ended up sitting on the edge of my seat all night simply enthralled by them.

RBS

300 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:37:49pm

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel

Scary pup:[Embedded image]

Grumpy Cat getting some string time:

vine.co

301 gwangung  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:39:03pm

re: #278 ObserverArt

Heh. I think BECAUSE of his education he’s going to look back years from now and not think the less of his behavior….because he knows the context of what is demanded of sports figures, quite tacitly, but is there none the less….The system incentivizes outspokenness, particularly when it breaks the sanitized quotes most athletes give. The media LIVES for the type of quotes Sherman gave…and he will be given a stature he wouldn’t necessarily have if he had played the good boy that so many people think they want (but really don’t).

He’s an entertainer, and gave an entertainer’s answer.

grantland.com

302 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:39:27pm

re: #293 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR GUN CONTROL IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!1!!!!!!

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Note the original Jefferson quote was “freeman” and not “free man”. Makes a difference back in the slavery days

303 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:42:36pm

re: #274 Kragar

Reagan also turned a blind eye to what Hizbullah did to the Marines in Beirut. Hizbullah, a proxy for Iran in Lebanon. Lobbed a bunch of shells from the USS New Jersey and then tucked tail and ran. Never got the justice those Marines (and French) peacekeepers deserved.

304 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:42:53pm

re: #288 dog philosopher

i think wiksterpedia tends to support your interpretation:

‘Islamism (Islam+-ism) or Political Islam […] is a set of ideologies holding that “Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life”’

There’s still quite a distance between thinking “Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life” and thinking “I should blow up innocent people in support of that goal.”

305 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:43:04pm

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

both of the quotes or is one of them real?

The Jefferson quote is incomplete. Jefferson was actually talking about WHITE MEN PATROLLING ON THEIR OWN PLANTATIONS.

The George Mason quote is taken out of context. Surprise, surprise, he was referring to a “well regulated militia” not to a bunch of random guys with a bunch of gunz.

306 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:43:48pm

re: #303 lawhawk

Reagan also turned a blind eye to what Hizbullah did to the Marines in Beirut. Hizbullah, a proxy for Iran in Lebanon. Lobbed a bunch of shells from the USS New Jersey and then tucked tail and ran. Never got the justice those Marines (and French) peacekeepers deserved.

Brave Saint Reagan ran away,
bravely ran away away…

307 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:44:27pm

Here is a Jefferson quote you will never see the wingnuts Tweeting.

308 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:45:07pm

re: #305 Pie-onist Overlord

The Jefferson quote is incomplete. Jefferson was actually talking about WHITE MEN PATROLLING ON THEIR OWN PLANTATIONS.

The George Mason quote is taken out of context. Surprise, surprise, he was referring to a “well regulated militia” not to a bunch of random guys with a bunch of gunz.

I love how gun humpers can only read half of the 2nd amendment

309 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:46:12pm

HURR HURR DERP DERP CONFIRMED. FACT!!!!!!

310 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:46:36pm

re: #304 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

There’s still quite a distance between thinking “Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life” and thinking “I should blow up innocent people in support of that goal.”

definitely true, but D_F described ‘islamism’ as a “tyrannical” interpretation

if violence comes into the picture, though, clearly this should be distinguished from mere philosophical islamsm

311 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:47:21pm

HURR HURR STONE TEH SLUT!!!!1!!!!

312 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:47:31pm

re: #308 Kragar

I love how gun humpers can only read half of the 2nd amendment

‘militia’ is a hard wurd therefore what time is the game on and where’s my beer?

313 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:47:38pm

re: #269 gwangung

Was watching the news this morning and that’s all they seemed to talk about. He had the play of the game and held off SF from getting the key score in the game.

He’s got a right to crow.

He did so virtually incoherently.

That’s my shocked face that he was talking trash and did so incoherently.

Now that’s my meh face about what that means in the grand parade of lifeless packaging.

We’ll be seeing him and the rest of Seattle in NY/NJ real soon.

314 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:48:33pm

re: #99 Kragar

Fox News host: Solution to high minority arrest rate is for them to smoke less pot while black

fyt

315 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:49:03pm

re: #312 dog philosopher

‘militia’ is a hard wurd therefore what time is the game on and where’s my beer?

It’s the “well regulated” part they don’t want to see.

316 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:50:06pm

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

both of the quotes or is one of them real?

The Mason quote is altered. The original was:

Forty years ago, when the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people. That it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them. But that they should not do it openly; but to weaken them and let them sink gradually, by totally difusing and neglecting the militia.

I.e., this is not Mason expressing his own opinion of disarmament, but rather describing the governor of Pennsylvania (Sir William Keith)’s reasoning. Mason may well have agreed with that reasoning, but this quote doesn’t demonstrate it.

(ETA: Also, what VB said at #305.)

317 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:50:10pm

re: #311 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh why did I bother reading that horribly partisan trash??

318 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:50:36pm

re: #315 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s the “well regulated” part they don’t want to see.

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OK, I am the militia. I don’t see anything happening that requires me to go down to the armory and do anything.

319 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:51:41pm

HURR HURR

320 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:51:51pm

re: #312 dog philosopher

‘militia’ is a hard wurd therefore what time is the game on and where’s my beer?

A well regulated militia, which under the original intent would require a uniformity of equipment, so as to ensure parts could be swapped for repairs, only one type of ammo that could be shared, etc.

321 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:52:31pm

OH HAI TRISLER

322 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:52:36pm

re: #319 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow, ‘assbama’.

They’re not even trying any more are they?

323 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:52:46pm

Every state has a well regulated milita. Its called the National Guard. Nothing is stopping you from joining up.

324 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:53:21pm

re: #323 Kragar

Every state has a well regulated milita. Its called the National Guard. Nothing is stopping you from joining up.

Well they probably couldn’t pass the physical.

325 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:54:49pm

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

Well they probably couldn’t pass the physical.

DAMN THOSE REGULATIONS!

326 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:55:15pm

re: #323 Kragar

I prefer to bear a cast iron frying pan. Heat it up and cook. It is also good to throw at intruders.

327 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:57:07pm

NEWS FLASH, IT’S NOT ONLY DUCK CHENEY.

328 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:57:51pm

re: #311 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR STONE TEH SLUT!!!!1!!!!

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And of course, there’s no evidence of that being in a court order. Even if there was, that can be standard language in many child custody orders. A lot of things are “alleged” in these very adversarial cases that turn out to be gossip, innuendo, or just plain lies.

It doesn’t mean Wendy Davis actually used alcohol or illegal drugs around her kids.

329 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:59:06pm

i should think that requiring background checks at gun shows and online would clearly come under the “well regulated” clause

330 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:00:01pm

BEN YOU SUCK

331 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:00:48pm

re: #311 Pie-onist Overlord

Nice to see Wendy Davis has Erickson worried.

332 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:01:14pm

re: #311 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR STONE TEH SLUT!!!!1!!!!

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So where is the evidence she was using drugs and it wasn’t wasn’t her ex-husband just being a dick in a custody battle?

Oh right, they don’t need evidence.

333 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:01:52pm

HURR HURR TEH GUNZ IS ARE FREEDUMZ!!!!11!!! MLK WAS A GUN FREAK JUST LIKE WE RRR!!!!!

334 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:02:49pm
335 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:03:03pm



336 palomino  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:03:32pm

re: #247 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS
Hey FReep! You are the ones who have ALL TEH GUNZ!!!!! So it’s really YOU who want to murder all the “Socialists” not the other way around.

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The freepers seem to still be fighting a civil war…at least in their own minds. I don’t know how much more dead end you can get than talking about socialists vs. conservatives in an all-out cage match to the death.

Violent fantasies about killing one’s fellow citizens who happen to be—not enemies—just political opponents…not a good sign for the UNITED in USA.

337 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:04:22pm
338 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:05:11pm

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

BEN YOU SUCK

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And Conservatives wonder why they keep losing people when they have folks like Ben on their side

339 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:06:54pm

re: #338 Kragar

And Conservatives wonder why they keep losing people when they have folks like Ben on their side

HURR HURR WHY IS TEH JUICE DONTS LIKE US? WE CAN HAS BEN SHAPIRO, HE IS ALL TEH JUICE!!!!111

HURR HURR WHY IS TEH BLAHS DON’T LIKES US??? WE CAN HAS BEN CARSON & THOMAS SOWELL THEY ARE ALL TEH BLAHS!!!!11!!

340 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:07:22pm

re: #338 Kragar

And Conservatives wonder why they keep losing people when they have folks like Ben on their side

You just don’t understand. If they could only get a REAL conservative on the ballot for president then everybody will flock to them. No, I’m not quite sure HOW that works outside of their fevered brainpan.

RBS

341 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:08:18pm
342 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:08:40pm

This was a 15 study review.

Guns in the home raise suicide, homicide risk, review confirms

nbcnews.com

I think we see the results every single day of having a gun in the home.

“Andrew Anglemyer and colleagues at the University of California, San Francisco, trolled through studies that had already been done to see if they could clarify the association between gun ownership and violent death. They found 14 studies that found the odds of suicide went up by anywhere from 1.5 times to 10-fold if people had access to guns. Experts say this is partly because guns are far deadlier than other suicide methods, such as taking pills, which may not succeed.

“Studies looking at homicide found that if people had access to guns, they were two to three times more likely to be killed themselves.

“Firearms cause an estimated 31,000 deaths annually in the United States,” they wrote in their report, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. “Data from the 16-state National Violent Death Reporting System indicate that 51.8 percent of deaths from suicide in 2009 were firearm-related; among homicide victims, 66.5 percent were firearm-related.”

343 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:11:58pm

WTFITHFS!!!!!!! HELLO, HOW MUCH DID 2 WARS & A TAX CUT FOR THE 1% COST THIS COUNTRY? U THINK IT WAS FREE?

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:13:24pm

NO, IT’S NOT GLORIOUS, IT’S FUCKED UP.

345 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:13:44pm

re: #319 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR

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Attention baggerati: This is a much younger me. Please leave present-day me out of your illiterate persecution fantasies.

346 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:15:16pm

If the WW2 GI’s were the MOAST PATRIOTIC PATRIOTS OF ALL TIMES (EXCEPT FOR TEH PATRIOTS OF TEH REVOLUTION)
WHY DID FDR GET ELECTED PRESIDENT 4 TIMES?

347 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:16:54pm

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

BEN YOU SUCK

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Ben’s just an entertainer!

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348 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:16:58pm
349 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:17:42pm

DUMBEST. FAKE. QUOTE. EVER.
Originally attributed to Queen Victoria. Or was it Queen Elizabeth I?
I am pretty sure there were motorcars by Reagan’s time.

350 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:18:15pm

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

Pierson has Malkin’s endorsement, but Pete Sessions has the NRA’s.

351 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:19:00pm
352 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:19:23pm

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

Was it Reagan who first said “HURR”?

353 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:19:57pm

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

NO, IT’S NOT GLORIOUS, IT’S FUCKED UP.

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The answer to the debt problem is, of course, tax cuts for the rich.

354 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:22:06pm

Holy crap. Want to live in Vietnam? Don’t smuggle drugs.

Vietnam Sentences 30 Heroin Smugglers to Death
Vietnamese Court’s Ruling Will ‘Also Warn Other Smugglers’ Still at Large

online.wsj.com

355 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:23:53pm

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

DUMBEST. FAKE. QUOTE. EVER.
Originally attributed to Queen Victoria. Or was it Queen Elizabeth I?
I am pretty sure there were motorcars by Reagan’s time.

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Apparently a quote from one Mrs. Patrick Campbell.

356 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:25:19pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

I guess all of America is talking about Seattle’s Richard Sherman today and his outburst after the game yesterday against San Francisco. I understand there is no room for getting all bigoted about it, but I think what is being lost in the whole debate and outrage is the interview itself.

All the time everyone is told, don’t judge me by my skin, judge me by my actions. Maybe he should have considered his actions.

I have a feeling in a few years when Stewart grows up a bit more and is out of the game, he will look back on the whole thing and be left with one feeling all his own. Embarrassment.

I can hear him in a few years saying “what was I doing/thinking?” Maybe he will be able to use it all to teach some kids class rises above all color, religion, politics…everything. And when you maintain class, it gives the bigots and haters a whole lot less ammo to be outraged about.

And on this day, I should think one MLK would help teach him that lesson.

At least he wasn’t drunk, slobbering all over the reporter, and telling her he wanted to kiss her.

357 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:26:07pm

re: #356 Eventual Carrion

At least he wasn’t drunk, slobbering all over the reporter, and telling her he wanted to kiss her.

I’m glad this is what our standards have come to.

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358 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:26:12pm

re: #353 Kragar

The answer to the debt problem everything is, of course, tax cuts for the rich.

FTFY

The GOP are a one note party. Tax Cuts Uber Alles. For everything and everyone else, fuck off.

359 Belafon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:26:34pm

re: #56 Pie-onist Overlord

They need to get off the taxpayer funded internet, stop using taxpayer funded roads, and shut down their taxpayer researched computer.

360 bratwurst  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:26:57pm
361 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:27:44pm

re: #356 Eventual Carrion

At least he wasn’t drunk, slobbering all over the reporter, and telling her he wanted to kiss her.

One day he could have had an O’Reilly show of his own.

362 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:29:56pm

re: #360 bratwurst

Because post-menopausal women never, ever have a reason to go to a gynecologist. WTF.

363 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:30:25pm

re: #360 bratwurst

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Kaiser would beg to differ and I’m guessing their business model doesn’t include unnecessary services for their patients.

I think he meant obstetrical services.

364 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:35:23pm

120 “likes” and counting from Dim’s comment section:

How many Americans hated George Bush because he is white? At least he didn’t whine about it like a little metrosexual pussy Momma’s boy.

I despise our little poopy pants President because he such a whiny Marxist America-hating loser.

365 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:36:56pm

How does any woman vote for a Republican after the last few years?

Heck, how does a Republican female currently elected political office holder vote for a Republican anymore?

Who knows, maybe when the voting booth curtain closes, they don’t

366 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:36:56pm

re: #364 Kid A

Six years into his dictatorial reign and no one’s gotten their guns grabbed yet. It’s making them a little cranky.

367 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:44:17pm

re: #319 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR

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Almost all the ones I know were drafted by the government, with the threat of imprisonment, if they didn’t show up for enlistment.

368 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:46:30pm

re: #367 Eventual Carrion

Almost all the ones I know were drafted by the government, with the threat of imprisonment, if they didn’t show up for enlistment.

Except for that one guy who crapped his pants for 30 days then carried the shitload to the draft board.

369 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:48:04pm

This just in: still no global shortage of white space. Please continue to use some to make code more readable.

/this message brought to you by pet peeves and classmate code examples posted to the class website.

370 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:48:10pm

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

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Why do the Republicans have the least attractive human beings in the country?

They’re soul-less ideological puppets of the 1%, nothing more.

This one is a real winner:

Owner at Pierson Consulting Group
Opinion Commentator at WFAA-TV
Talk Show Host at America’s Web Radio/Radio Sandy Springs

linkedin.com

She is being paid well by the rightwing, you just know it. She has a BS in Biology and held 3 jobs in 3 yrs before she had to figure out how to make a living.

WTF does she “consult” on? You decide. I’d say it was attention whoring.

This is her “Pierson Consulting Group”:

piersonconsultinggroup.com

Her campaign page lists no biography, no qualifications.

371 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:50:37pm

re: #362 Lidane

Because post-menopausal women never, ever have a reason to go to a gynecologist. WTF.

Yeah, we’re just supposed to fuck off and die.

372 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:51:05pm

re: #371 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, we’re just supposed to fuck off and die.

Well, after menopause we can’t pop out babies, so what good are we?

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373 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:51:11pm

re: #370 Justanotherhuman

Here’s her bio:
piersonconsultinggroup.com!about2/c4nz

Seems like a PR type, but she has a Bachelors in biology. Maybe someone will ask her how old she thinks the earth is.

374 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:51:27pm

In that one tweet that Ted Cruz barfed out posted earlier, is he saying he too would cut a backdoor deal with sworn enemies and drug dealin’ revolutionaries so he too could look good?

Or, is he admitting he has no idea of American political history making him a hack?

Amazing. Maybe making an ass of yourself really is the new way.

375 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:51:36pm

re: #345 Shiplord Kirel

Attention baggerati: This is a much younger me. Please leave present-day me out of your illiterate persecution fantasies.
[Embedded image]

Love it.

376 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:53:40pm

WTFITS
You think this is bad, just wait until MJay Rosenberg gets hold of it.

377 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:54:05pm

Man, Richard Sherman really brought out the swamp-dwelling crazies on twitter. If they’re not calling him a “thug,” (I don’t know many Stanford graduates that are thug life) they’re just straight up calling him a n-word.

378 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:54:45pm

re: #371 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, we’re just supposed to fuck off and die.

Better than a Sister Palin and Mother Michelle Bachmann death panel, eh?

379 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:54:54pm
380 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:55:45pm

This asshole is getting a lot of attention on twitter and for all the wrong reasons.

381 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:56:39pm

re: #378 ObserverArt

Better than a Sister Palin and Mother Michelle Bachmann death panel, eh?

At least we don’t need Viagra.

382 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:56:57pm

re: #369 klys

This just in: still no global shortage of white space. Please continue to use some to make code more readable.

/this message brought to you by pet peeves and classmate code examples posted to the class website.

i have some extra left over letters that i use to name my functions and variables in the little known “english” language

383 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:58:33pm

re: #382 dog philosopher

i have some extra left over letters that i use to name my functions and variables in the little known “english” language

The only place “i” is an acceptable variable name is in a for loop.

WE ARE NOT CODING ON MEMORY LIMITED DEVICES HERE.

/my functions include determine_overlap, print_error_warnings, and merge_strings.

384 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:59:47pm

re: #376 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS
You think this is bad, just wait until MJay Rosenberg gets hold of it.

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Dkos is pretty excited about the BDS movement making progress….
A Nation Awakening: Boycott Against Israel Is the Top Story in … Israel

385 palomino  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:59:49pm

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

NO, IT’S NOT GLORIOUS, IT’S FUCKED UP.

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Total bubble they live in.

I guess it was OK when Bush added $5 trillion to the national debt, because it’s less than $7 trillion. Forget the fact that annual deficits were going up throughout the Bush years, starting in his first year, while they’ve been declining for the last 3 years under Obama. Indeed, the party establishment doesn’t even see the debt as a major issue in 2014. It’s all about Obamacare and social issues.

Regardless of how “utterly fearless” Cruz finds her, I doubt if she’ll be taking Rep. Sessions’ spot in the House. He’s been there forever, and I don’t think his far right bona fides are really in question. Then again, you never know when both Texas AND the tea party are involved. It’s a recipe for total fuckedupness.

386 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:01:07pm

re: #377 Kid A

Man, Richard Sherman really brought out the swamp-dwelling crazies on twitter. If they’re not calling him a “thug,” (I don’t know many Stanford graduates that are thug life) they’re just straight up calling him a n-word.

It is actually a great study. Thesis in the making.

387 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:02:08pm

Gun accident kills veteran Texas singer-songwriter Steven Fromholz


Now the man with the big hat is buying
Drink up while the drinking is free
Drink up to the cowboys a dead or a dying
Drink to my compadres and me
Youtube Video

388 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:02:10pm

re: #377 Kid A

Man, Richard Sherman really brought out the swamp-dwelling crazies on twitter. If they’re not calling him a “thug,” (I don’t know many Stanford graduates that are thug life) they’re just straight up calling him a n-word.

This statement does leave me compelled to add that going to Stanford does not preclude being an asshole.

It probably just means you’re a reasonably intelligent asshole.

389 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:03:42pm

re: #382 dog philosopher

i have some extra left over letters that i use to name my functions and variables in the little known “english” language

UseCamelCase I hope

390 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:04:18pm

re: #372 klys

Well, after menopause we can’t pop out babies, so what good are we?

///

Making Pies?

RBS

391 klys  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:05:11pm

re: #389 Eventual Carrion

UseCamelCase I hope

My current class is in C; underscore is preferred to camelcase right now.

392 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:08:36pm

re: #391 klys

My current class is in C; underscore is preferred to camelcase right now.

Our coding standard at work calls for camel case in naming. And variables start with:
b = Boolean
s = String
i = Integer

etc…

393 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:12:10pm

Behold the wild programmer

I’ve always told my students that the best names are short enough to easily type and long enough to be clearly understood.

And if you’re good and consistent anybody else will be able to easily parse your code. Then they call me on a demo when I make a couple of variables like Foo and Bar, along with a method or two called DoIt and DoItAgain.

RBS

394 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:16:25pm

re: #389 Eventual Carrion

UseCamelCase I hope

you mean to write useCamelCase eh what?

395 Mattand  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:19:38pm

re: #377 Kid A

Man, Richard Sherman really brought out the swamp-dwelling crazies on twitter. If they’re not calling him a “thug,” (I don’t know many Stanford graduates that are thug life) they’re just straight up calling him a n-word.

There’s plenty of outrage among my fellow Eagles fans over Sherman. Of course, when an Eagles white wide receiver was recorded calling a black dude a ni-CLANG!, then all of a sudden we needed to get over race.

Fucking idiots.

396 Ryan King  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:40:12pm

‘sssSupair Booowwl’

397 Ryan King  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:41:24pm

re: #395 Mattand

There’s plenty of outrage among my fellow Eagles fans over Sherman. Of course, when an Eagles white wide receiver was recorded calling a black dude a ni-CLANG!, then all of a sudden we needed to get over race.

Fucking idiots.

Racists just looooove Richard Sherman. Think of all the Photoshop Jockeys working late tonight.

398 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:55:20am

re: #304 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

There’s still quite a distance between thinking “Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life” and thinking “I should blow up innocent people in support of that goal.”

And we don’t use “Christian” verses “Christianist” around here much to separate Bryan Fisher and his ilk from the general run of fellow religionists.

399 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:15:51am

re: #346 Pie-onist Overlord

If the WW2 GI’s were the MOAST PATRIOTIC PATRIOTS OF ALL TIMES (EXCEPT FOR TEH PATRIOTS OF TEH REVOLUTION)
WHY DID FDR GET ELECTED PRESIDENT 4 TIMES?

Those of them who could vote in 1940 and/or 1944, voted for FDR because he had experience running the government and because his resolution to defend America and defeat her enemies was unparalleled.

Of course, just like the Republicans of the Civil War era weren’t like today’s Republicans, neither was FDR like most post-60’s Democrats. He reacted to the effective failure of naval disarmament treaties by building warships instead of seeking talks the other side was no longer interested in. He didn’t give up on talking till after war had broken out, but he had a realistic view of peace talks and prepared the US as best he could for the war he knew we were likely going to get pulled into.

400 Ryan King  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:27:16am

This asinine turnspeak is always a winner with the knuckle-dragging right wing base.

Just have to say this was a gem.


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