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1 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:58:46pm

2 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:12:12pm

Christie’s fucked.

3 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:14:14pm

re: #2 darthstar

Christie’s fucked.

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But what about Benghazi?
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4 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:15:17pm

re: #2 darthstar

Christie’s fucked.

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Hoboken? What happened in Hoboken? //

5 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:16:12pm

Waaah! Want 4k monitor!

More seriously it looks great.

6 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:17:50pm

re: #4 Gus

Company Behind Hoboken Project Has Long Trail Of Jersey Campaign Cash

Rockefeller Group became a focus of attention Saturday when Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer alleged that Christie aides had threatened to withhold hurricane relief money unless she approved a development project that involves the company. Rockefeller owns the land where the project was to be built and was also represented by a law firm founded by a close Christie ally.

In an email to TPM Monday, Dwayne Doherty, a spokesman for Rockefeller Group, said the company allows its employees to make “personal donations.”

“The Rockefeller Group has a long-standing company policy that prohibits political contributions on behalf of the company. Employees may make political contributions personally,” Doherty wrote.

But even though Doherty initially said Rockefeller Group does not make campaign contributions as a company, campaign finance records show the company has been making political donations for more than two decades. From 1989 until 2011, records show Rockefeller Group has made 21 campaign contributions in New Jersey totaling $77,500.

7 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:18:20pm

re: #6 Kragar

Company Behind Hoboken Project Has Long Trail Of Jersey Campaign Cash

Thanks. I heard. Saw it about 100 times already today.

8 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:19:30pm
9 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:22:20pm

re: #4 Gus

Hoboken? What happened in Hoboken? //

Wendy Davis.

10 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:24:17pm

re: #9 darthstar

Wendy Davis.

Yeah. I seem to remember everyone ignoring Barbara Buono until the last week before the election.

11 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:37:43pm
12 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:41:35pm

re: #11 Pie-onist Overlord

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Everyone is gay for Putin
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13 Ryan King  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:42:29pm

re: #3 Kragar

But what about Benghazi?
/

I had forgot about Benghazi you fookin Benghazifier.

14 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:43:02pm

re: #10 Gus

Yeah. I seem to remember everyone ignoring Barbara Buono until the last week before the election.

Look at the bright side. If Buono had won, her inauguration would be tomorrow and all these scandals would be her fault.

15 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:45:52pm

Evening Lizardim.

16 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:48:43pm
17 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:49:21pm

I love caving. I remember one particularly tough horizontal tube crawl. It was probably 50 meters long and about 200cm wide and 150 cm tall. If you weighed more than about 100 kilos you would likely be stuck. Crawling consisted of one arm out in front, the other was down at your hip, pulling with the lead hand and pushing with the trailing hand and toe tips. At the half way point there was a rock dipping down from the ceiling, requiring some back and hip arching to get past. At the far end was a small triangular room at about a 60 degree tilt, with just enough room for 3 of us to stand in. Good times!

18 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:50:50pm

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

I get claustrophobia just from reading that paragraph.

19 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:51:15pm

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

I love caving. I remember one particularly tough horizontal tube crawl. It was probably 50 meters long and about 200cm wide and 150 cm tall. If you weighed more than about 100 kilos you would likely be stuck. Crawling consisted of one arm out in front, the other was down at your hip, pulling with the lead hand and pushing with the trailing hand and toe tips. At the half way point there was a rock dipping down from the ceiling, requiring some back and hip arching to get past. At the far end was a small triangular room at about a 60 degree tilt, with just enough room for 3 of us to stand in. Good times!

I never suffered from claustrophobia until just this minute.

(ETA: feh)

20 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:52:32pm

I do like caves, but I get bad feelings about getting stuck head down in an oubliette.

21 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:52:55pm

re: #19 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I never suffered from claustrophobia until just this minute.

Yeah, that was about the closest I’ve been to claustrophobia. If I had been the first person to explore it I think I’d have lost it.

22 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:53:41pm

re: #18 jaunte

23 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:57:40pm

This little tube goes down to a room big enough for a dozen of people sitting with hunched backs. It’s just over a meter long into the roof of the room. They call it “The Womb”

The Womb

24 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:58:24pm

*shudder*

25 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:58:32pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

Thanks, but I have no need to revisit the birth process…

26 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 6:59:13pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

This little tube goes down to a room big enough for a dozen of people sitting with hunched backs. It’s just over a meter long into the roof of the room. They call it “The Womb”

The Womb

You’d never get me in there. That would drive me mental.

27 blueraven  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:00:33pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

This little tube goes down to a room big enough for a dozen of people sitting with hunched backs. It’s just over a meter long into the roof of the room. They call it “The Womb”

The Womb

oh hell no

28 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:01:00pm
29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:01:21pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

This little tube goes down to a room big enough for a dozen of people sitting with hunched backs. It’s just over a meter long into the roof of the room. They call it “The Womb”

The Womb

nope…

30 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:02:26pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

This little tube goes down to a room big enough for a dozen of people sitting with hunched backs. It’s just over a meter long into the roof of the room. They call it “The Womb”

The Womb

Crazy

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:04:13pm

And in Florida…

Florida House candidate Joshua Black calls for hanging of President Obama

“I’m past impeachment,” Joshua Black wrote on Twitter. “It’s time to arrest and hang him high.”

“He should be executed for treason,” Black said. “I think the appropriate punishment is death. They killed Benedict Arnold. (Obama) shouldn’t be allowed to kill Americans without a trial.”
The political newcomer said he doesn’t fear U.S. Secret Service agents showing up on his doorstep. Many voters might agree with his position, he said, adding: “I guess they’re going to call me a racist now.”

32 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:07:05pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because impeachment and conviction aren’t important when you’re talking about treason? Oh. Sorry. The actual offense is Presidentin’ while Black. Never mind.

33 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:07:28pm

re: #27 blueraven

oh hell no

Word.

34 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:07:49pm
35 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:08:31pm
36 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:08:42pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

And in Florida…

Florida House candidate Joshua Black calls for hanging of President Obama


“Many voters might agree with his position, he said, adding: “I guess they’re going to call me a racist now.”

I’d rather they just call you ‘the defendant,’ asshole.

37 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:09:33pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

And in Florida…

The political newcomer said he doesn’t fear U.S. Secret Service agents showing up on his doorstep. Many voters might agree with his position, he said, adding: “I guess they’re going to call me a racist now.”

Florida House candidate Joshua Black calls for hanging of President Obama

No, and he doesn’t have to FEAR Secret Service showing up because in this country we don’t “disappear” people for speaking out, even if they are total buttwads. We do make sure that any potential threat is investigated and acted upon according to law.

Of course, if he does get a visit from the Secret Service, that is going to be just more red meat for his supporters, with cries of “Violation of his Rights” and “Dictatorial President”.

RBS

38 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:12:15pm
39 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:14:49pm

re: #34 Kid A

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That’s the second time he’s accidentally shot himself, too.

40 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:15:22pm

FreeRepublicUSA’s man crush on Putie is creeping me out. A lot.

41 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:18:01pm

re: #38 Kid A

“…as Peyton explains in the excerpt, he has intentionally chosen to speak more by his actions than by his words.”

Maybe that will catch on. ////

42 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:18:52pm

re: #38 Kid A

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Crap. Go Seahawks!

43 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:20:01pm

Yeesh. What a strange world.

44 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:20:02pm
45 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:20:11pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

And in Florida…

Florida House candidate Joshua Black calls for hanging of President Obama

Actually, Benedict Arnold ended up with a British commission, moved to England and started a business there before dying of dropsy in 1801

46 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:20:57pm

Um, actually he made it worse. A whole lot worse.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:23:26pm

re: #45 Kragar

Actually, Benedict Arnold ended up with a British commission, moved to England and started a business there before dying of dropsy in 1801

Nobody is implying that Mr. Black has any real grasp of American history…

48 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:24:02pm

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

I guess they forgot about that whole selling arms to Iran thing.

49 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:24:11pm

Here is something for FreeRepublicUSA to think about all night long:

Vlad Putin doing Teh Ghey Sexytimes with Zombie Ronald Reagan.

Twerk it!

50 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:25:44pm

HURR HURR!!11!!!!

51 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:26:46pm

re: #48 jaunte

I guess they forgot about that whole selling arms to Iran thing.

And the Contras. And cutting and running from Lebanon. And Reagan’s support for Pinochet. And…

52 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:27:37pm
53 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:30:30pm
54 blueraven  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:30:59pm

re: #38 Kid A

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Who objects to Peyton Manning being a Christian?
Why do some people think liberals hate Christians? I certainty don’t. Most of my family members are Christians.

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:31:20pm

heh….

56 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:31:23pm

re: #51 Kragar

And the Contras. And cutting and running from Lebanon. And Reagan’s support for Pinochet. And…

The last time I got banned at FR it was for suggesting that Pinochet wasn’t a great individual. Little did I know that he was a Jeti knight protecting the world against ravenous zombie commie ninjas.

Yea, if a couple of years ago you would have said that the freepers were going to have serious man-crushes on an ex-KGB Russian strongman you would have been laughed out of town.

RBS

57 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:31:47pm

re: #51 Kragar

And the Contras. And cutting and running from Lebanon. And Reagan’s support for Pinochet. And…

And legalizing abortion as governor of California. And that he was the leader of a union. And…

58 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:33:47pm
59 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:34:17pm

re: #57 Kid A

And legalizing abortion as governor of California. And that he was the leader of a union. And…

And that whole amnesty for illegal immigrants, and oh yea, he was divorced too, so there goes the sanctity of marriage. I guess he was just a RINO.

RBS

60 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:34:57pm

re: #58 Kragar

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Toga! Toga! Toga!

61 Belafon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:35:33pm

re: #59 RealityBasedSteve

And restricting guns.

62 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:36:42pm

re: #57 Kid A

And legalizing abortion as governor of California. And that he was the leader of a union. And…

Gun control!

63 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:36:45pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toga! Toga! Toga!

Torga! Torga! Torga!

RBS

64 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:38:08pm
65 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:38:15pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toga! Toga! Toga!

I refuse to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the United States of America!

66 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:39:47pm
67 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:40:24pm

Hi everyone, happy MLK Day!

Apparently on my Facebook feed, they are talking about Duck Dynasty again because apparently, Daddy Duck isn’t actually a homophobe. That’s the new reasoning now. So I followed some of their links:

nunya > CriticalThinker
• 25 days ago
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⚑
The guy from the duck show is not a homophobe, Do you even know what a homophobe is? A homophobe is afraid of homosexuals. The duck dude was just saying what he belives in, that homosexuality is a sin. He didn’t say that he’s terrified of homosexuals. Get it together…Think B4 you speak. Get a clue

gEt A cLuE!!!11111!!!!!!

68 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:42:54pm

re: #57 Kid A

And legalizing abortion as governor of California. And that he was the leader of a union. And…

And instituting withholding of taxes in CA.

69 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:43:30pm

This guy needs 10,000 followers.

70 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:44:36pm
71 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:47:01pm

re: #70 Kid A

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Well, THAT certainly vindicates him.

72 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:47:54pm
73 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:50:56pm

Wait. So Ronald Reagan is running this year?

74 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:52:23pm
“I wonder who paid for Greg Abbott’s education, or if his political ambitions affected his family life?” said no one ever.
burntorangereport.com
75 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:52:29pm

re: #73 Gus

He’s pretty much all they’ve got. All the living possibilities have feet of clay.

76 Ed E. Lishus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:53:56pm

re: #73 Gus

If I were a Gooper, looking at the field of ‘16 candidates they’re fronting, I’d be living in the past, too.

77 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:54:33pm

Make that 1,000,000 followers. I freaking love this guy.

78 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:55:30pm

re: #75 calochortus

They have Reagan, and….

79 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:58:55pm

re: #78 jaunte

So you’re saying they have Reagan and…nothing?

80 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:06:52pm

re: #78 jaunte

They have Reagan, and….

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Wow. Bottom of barrel, scraped.

Nice work, there, Rinse. You’re making Michael Steele look like a friggin’ genius.

81 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:08:18pm

82 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:10:00pm

re: #79 calochortus

So you’re saying they have Reagan and…nothing?

Well, Palin is the political and spiritual descendant of Reagan.
Be afraid… Be very afraid.

RBS

83 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:10:07pm

Well surprise, surprise…walk back time.

CB Richard Sherman apologizes

“I apologize for attacking an individual and taking the attention away from the fantastic game by my teammates … That was not my intent,” Sherman said Monday in a text message to ESPN’s Ed Werder.

Sherman also addressed his postgame comments in an interview Monday with ESPN Radio on the “SVP and Russillo” show.

“Obviously I could have worded things better and could obviously have had a better reaction and done things differently,” he said during the interview. “But it is what it is now, and people’s reactions are what they are.”

It all seems so…well, like a cliche script. I wish someone could actually surprise us these days. It’s a public relations entertainment industry.

84 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:12:03pm

re: #82 RealityBasedSteve

Well, Palin is the political and spiritual descendant of Reagan.
Be afraid… Be very afraid.

RBS

85 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:13:42pm

A goddamned Benghazi petition on the official GOP web site.

Isn’t that pretty much an admission that they’re the party of Bad Craziness?

86 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:13:53pm

re: #84 Gus

And now some of the people who were (still are?) big Palin fans are all over Wendy Davis for “embellishing” her life story.

87 Belafon  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:14:54pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

I’m so glad that the biggest thing we have to worry about is how offended a white female report was at the words from a hyped up black football player.

88 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:15:14pm

re: #82 RealityBasedSteve

Sigh.

89 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:17:35pm

re: #85 makeitstop

A goddamned Benghazi petition on the official GOP web site.

Isn’t that pretty much an admission that they’re the party of Bad Craziness?

This is collectible grade weirdness:
“Sign The Petition If You Knew All Along”

90 blueraven  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:17:48pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

Well surprise, surprise…walk back time.

CB Richard Sherman apologizes

It all seems so…well, like a cliche script. I wish someone could actually surprise us these days. It’s a public relations entertainment industry.

That was actually his second apology. I guess we need blood.

91 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:19:45pm

well, I’m outta here… for your dining and dancing pleasure, your guide to interpreting scientific reports on the internet.

RBS

92 jaunte  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:22:48pm

Dewhurst: Texas teachers paid ‘very fair salary’

“…Texas’ average teacher pay was about $47,300 in 2009-10 dollars — lower than the national average of nearly $55,000, and less than what 32 other states pay educators.”
………..

“…Dewhurst is also by far the wealthiest candidate in the race, but spending $25 million of his personal [fortune] in 2012 still wasn’t enough to defeat Ted Cruz for a U.S. Senate seat.”

$25 million is about $7,500 for every public school teacher in Texas.

93 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:25:23pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

And in Florida…

Florida House candidate Joshua Black calls for hanging of President Obama

Now why on earth would anyone call him racist just because he wants to lynch the black president?////

94 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:30:13pm

re: #91 RealityBasedSteve

well, I’m outta here… for your dining and dancing pleasure, your guide to interpreting scientific reports on the internet.

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RBS

All have wide applicability in the social sciences, as well as the physical sciences.

95 calochortus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:34:53pm

Good night, fellow lizards. Hasta mañana.

96 gwangung  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:46:11pm

re: #87 Belafon

I’m so glad that the biggest thing we have to worry about is how offended a white female report uptight fans was were at the words from a hyped up black football player.

Given that Erin Andrews said, basically, she knew she struck a gold mine, I think that’s more accurate.

We ridicule the bland, preprogrammed sound bites coming from athletes, but when we get something that’s actually authentic, we recoil from it.

I think that says something more about us than it does about Richard Sherman.

97 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:50:26pm
98 Kid A  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:56:41pm
99 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:08:15pm
100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:11:32pm

Off to sleep….

101 darthstar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:12:41pm

Okay, fuck it. If we’re going to do the whole “Super Bowl” weed game, let’s do it right…here they come.

Referee “Dude…chill” Sign

Referee “Whoa” sign.

Referee “Oh shit I took something else, SPIDERS!!!” sign.

102 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:20:06pm

INVADE LIBYA!

103 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:28:00pm
104 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:39:30pm

Jesus Christ. Ted Cruz is a freaking numbskull.

105 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:03:48pm

106 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:09:35pm

107 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:11:37pm

108 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:11:57pm

re: #105 Gus

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Is it just me or did they totally miss where Guantanamo Bay is located?

109 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:13:40pm

re: #108 Single-handed sailor

Is it just me or did they totally miss where Guantanamo Bay is located?

Kind of a big giant arrow north of Cuba.

110 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:14:08pm

re: #108 Single-handed sailor

Is it just me or did they totally miss where Guantanamo Bay is located?

Oh. Yeah. That one’s a big giant circle in western Cuba. Yep.

111 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:18:59pm

Now add ICBMs, SLCMs, SLBMs, and intel satellites…

Black sites. Black budgets. SIGINT. NSA, FBI…

112 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:20:01pm

Then add local LE, federal LE agencies, and National Guard units.

113 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:20:48pm

Plus! Add the armed American population.

114 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:21:31pm

And fireworks.

115 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:29:50pm

re: #85 makeitstop

A goddamned Benghazi petition on the official GOP web site.

Isn’t that pretty much an admission that they’re the party of Bad Craziness?

There’s also this:


Wheee!

116 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:30:54pm

re: #92 jaunte

Dewhurst: Texas teachers paid ‘very fair salary’

David Dewhusrt’s political savvy is why Ted Cruz is now a Senator.

Let that sink in a while.

117 Gus  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:37:00pm

Eisenhower was right.

118 Kragar  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:39:46pm
119 The War TARDIS  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:51:10pm

It appears there is an actual, factual problem in the US Muslim Community. An odd one.

The Muslim Marriage Crisis

120 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:56:47pm
121 The War TARDIS  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:07:38pm

re: #119 The War TARDIS

WIth yet another friend looking to get married, this is quickly fraying my nerves.

I got advice from one person trying to match-make in Pakistan, another saying only look in the US, a former military officer telling me to look in Morocco, and a one person saying that she didn’t know of people in OKC would be looking for someone like me to marry.

Combine that with Autism, being a convert, whose big dream in life is having a family, and you have someone who will get stressed out every dang time someone in their social circle gets engaged or married.

I do my best to run away from this issue, but it always comes back. Roughly once every 2-3 weeks.

122 Lidane  Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:47:55pm

So I finally got to watch the first episode of Series 3 for Sherlock. No spoilers, but part of the plot involves references to Guy Fawkes Night and the original Gunpowder Plot.

Cue the internet retards babbling about “OMG! Sherlock pulled ideas from V For Vendetta! How cool!”

Is it really that hard to do a Google search or read Wikipedia? WTF. Guy Fawkes wasn’t just some random guy that Alan Moore made up FFS. Morons.

123 The War TARDIS  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 12:04:36am

re: #122 Lidane

I think Doctor Who has somewhere too.

But, then again, Doctor Who has referenced everything. Including Sherlock.

124 freetoken  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 12:57:27am

MP3 Audio

125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:52:39am

re: #54 blueraven

Who objects to Peyton Manning being a Christian?
Why do some people think liberals hate Christians? I certainty don’t. Most of my family members are Christians.

If we don’t allow Christianity to be the official default state religion of the USA, we hate both Jesus and the Founding Fathers.

126 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:56:26am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

If we don’t allow [their version of] Christianity to be the official default state religion of the USA, we hate both Jesus and the Founding Fathers.

Added for accuracy.

127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 2:02:44am

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi

If we don’t allow their narrow-minded, fundamentalist, misogynist, patriarchal, agenda-driven, selectively interpreted version of Christianity to be the official default state religion of the USA, we hate both Jesus and the Founding Fathers.

Enhanced for further accuracy.

128 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 3:30:54am

re: #118 Kragar

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129 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 3:55:11am

re: #121 The War TARDIS

Instead of looking for someone to marry and have a family with, perhaps you should look for someone to go out with, have dinner, a movie, go to a museum
Every single one of my friends, (and now, at our ages, our children) dated many people before they found “the” one, and even then, when they started dating that one, they didn’t KNOW it was going to be “the” one. That developed over time

130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:07:23am

Same story here, I had all but given up on dating. Then I met a fiddle player, we played music for half a year and started leaning into each other, but I did not take it too seriously because she is a lot younger than II am (35 vs 54), always busy and travelling, and had a boyfriend who was about to move in with her.

Then one night it clicked and went BANG and the boyfriend was gone by the next week. Been together ever since.

131 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:17:53am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Zaccly

Wifey and I started out casual daters. 3 years before “the M word” (how she would reference to it) even came up in convo. Another 18 months before we were engaged, and yet 16 before we walked down the aisle

132 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:28:07am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

OH ,, and unlike The WAR Tardis, ,, wifey and I weren’t exactly ‘kids” when we met ( her 28, me 30) and 5+ years older when we married and ANOTHER 4 before our son was born!

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:34:41am

re: #129 sattv4u2

Instead of looking for someone to marry and have a family with, perhaps you should look for someone to go out with, have dinner, a movie, go to a museum
Every single one of my friends, (and now, at our ages, our children) dated many people before they found “the” one, and even then, when they started dating that one, they didn’t KNOW it was going to be “the” one. That developed over time

My youngest daughter thought she was going to be the single “career gal.” She had (still has) a nice job. She decided to treat herself to a vacation in the UK, because she could afford it and she was single. She loved it so much that six months later she decided to treat herself to ANOTHER vacation in the UK. Everybody was all like “Um Becky did you meet somebody over there?”

Because in my culture everybody is a matchmaker all the time.

Yeah she did meet somebody over there. He’s over here now, they’ve been married for 2 years and have a baby girl. :)

134 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:39:29am

First Derp O’The Day: WHY WE SHOULD WORSHIP THE 0.01%

135 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:44:11am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

First Derp O’The Day: WHY WE SHOULD WORSHIP THE 0.01%

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Hey Galt, folks like you were arguing that the Romanovs and the aristocracy were not wrong for plundering all of Russia’s wealth and keeping it to themselves. You know where those folks ended up? Against the wall when the revolution came.

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:46:05am

re: #135 Targetpractice

Hey Galt, folks like you were arguing that the Romanovs and the aristocracy were not wrong for plundering all of Russia’s wealth and keeping it to themselves. You know where those folks ended up? Against the wall when the revolution came.

Galt is assuming that those 85 got all their riches BECAUSE THEY ARE TEH MAKERS & PRODUCERS & THEY EARNED IT ALL BY THEMSELVES instead of you know, inheriting it, or doing the hedge fund thing which creates no jobs, or by creating a bunch of slave jrrbs in China and Bangladesh to sell to minimum wage workers in the U.S.

137 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:47:00am

re: #121 The War TARDIS

My advice is to relax, but to be aware of possibilities. I don’t know how much you get out and about. Besides activities in your religious community, do you belong to any clubs or such? Take any classes?

I met my ex when we were both attending the same Quaker meeting. She apparently had her eyes set on me long before I was aware of it, because I was juggling two girlfriends at the time. (Oh, those were the days!)

My daughter met her future husband at a college party. They met via their roommates, who were not even trying to set them up. They were attending different colleges and definitely would have never met, had it not been for one roommate asking the other up for the weekend. My daughter tagged along, and met the love of her life. They got married last April.

One of my Chinese students met her future husband, a Canadian, by chance while they were both visiting a nearby tourist spot. He needed some translation help. and her English is really good. Two years later, they got married. She was 23 and he was 39. Now they live in Ontario and just had a baby boy on Dec. 31.

138 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:50:46am

re: #136 Pie-onist Overlord

Galt is assuming that those 85 got all their riches BECAUSE THEY ARE TEH MAKERS & PRODUCERS & THEY EARNED IT ALL BY THEMSELVES instead of you know, inheriting it, or doing the hedge fund thing which creates no jobs, or by creating a bunch of slave jrrbs in China and Bangladesh to sell to minimum wage workers in the U.S.

Or have all their wealth in stocks, allowing them to increase their wealth knowing that if they ever take any of it out of the market, it will be taxed out of a fraction of what the guy working on the assembly line will be taxed at.

139 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 4:55:05am

HURR HURRR!!!! IF WE LOWER TEH MINIMUM WAGE TO NOTHING & ABOLISH TEH CHILD LABOR LAWS THEIR WILL BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF MOAR JRRBS!!!!1!!!!

NORMAL PERSON: Yeah but those will be shit jrrbs.

HURR HURR!!!!! JRRBS IS JRRBS!!!!! WHY SHOULD A YOUNG TEENAGER WITH NO SKILLS GET PAID???? WHEN THEY LEARN SUM SKILLS THEN THEY CAN MAKE MOAR MONEYS1!!!111!!!

NORMAL PERSON: How long should they have to work for little or nothing before they learn skills?

HURR HURR!!!111!! 8 OR 10 YEARS!!!! BY THEN THEY WILL BE FIRED AND MANAGEMENT HIRE MOAR YOUNG TEENS WITH NO SKILLZ!!!!11!

NORMAL PERSON: So then the by-now 20somethings who worked for little or no pay can get good jobs with their skills, right?

HURR HURR!!!!111 WHO WANTZ TO HIRE SUM LUZER WHO FLIPPED BURGERS & STOCKED WALMART SHELVES FOR 10 YEARS THAT ANY UNSKILLED YOUNG TEENAGER CAN DO!!!!!11!!!

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:00:17am
141 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:02:02am

Hell, even to the Galts, not all rich people are equal. James Sinegal is a very wealthy guy because of Costco, but the Galts sneer at him because he puts workers ahead of stockholders and realizes that a happy workforce is more important than a bigger compensation package.

But they love the Waltons who find ways to pay their workers as little as possible, make their working lives miserable, and establish various “charities” that in reality allow them to claim tax credits for charitable donations while the money ends up going back in their coffers.

142 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:03:28am

One of the reasons Romney lost was because it was clear that for all his wealth, he was no job creator, he was a money maker and a job offshorer.

Not because we want to expropriate their wealth, we just want to see a system in place that allows everyone to benefit from it, not just the upper 85 families.

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:03:31am

Thomas Sowell is such a tool.

144 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:06:47am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

One of the reasons Romney lost was because it was clear that for all his wealth, he was no job creator, he was a money maker and a job offshorer.

Not because we want to expropriate their wealth, we just want to see a system in place that allows everyone to benefit from it, not just the upper 85 families.

Speaking for myself, I would think that conservatives would want to live by their creed that you get paid for what you produce, which means if you make all your wealth through stock speculation and downsizing, then you should not be surprised that you’re taxed more than the guy who puts in 40+ hours of manual labor a week.

145 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:08:12am

re: #121 The War TARDIS

That pressure you feel is self imposed. You’re so worried about a woman meeting all your very specific criteria that you’re eliminating a huge portion of the female population. Asperger’s can have that effect but you can counter that if you’re aware of it. Instead of looking at the religious and family/marriage aspects of this, why not just look at the PERSON, let the religion/family thing be secondary. If your faith is that important to you, the right woman for you will honor that, Muslim or not. You know, there are a lot of couples who have different faiths and go on to have happy, healthy families and marriages. Look at the woman first and then figure out the commonalities. That means a time investment in people, being patient to some degree and willing to explore some new things, even if they may be somewhat out of your comfort zone. And trust an old lady who used to date a lot before she settled down: Women can sense your anxiousness about all these things and it sends out a terrible vibe and can scare people away. Focus less on potential wife right this minute to “Who is she? What does she like to do for fun? Does she like her job? Favorite author? Movie?” Start there, just there, the small mundane details of life we all experience. If there’s more there it will start to grow past that and then you can determine how much more time to invest.

You are you. Honor that, but also try to figure out how sometimes you get in your own way. We all do that sometimes, but autism can sometimes bring it out to an unhealthy degree. One of the people I love the most in this world is an Aspie, he’s going through a similar thing right now. Relax a little, maybe yoga would help (I mean that, it can be useful), you cannot plan a relationship down to the last detail and control all circumstances.

Morning everyone!!! LOL.

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:12:28am

BRYAN IT MEANS STOP ALL CANADIAN IMMIGRATION IMMEDIATELY1!!!!11

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:13:39am

HURR HURR

148 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:15:43am

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR

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What’s the point of buying bakeries if there’s nobody to buy bread? Who are they producing all those loaves of bread for? The rich certainly aren’t eating enough at a time to make up for the poor who aren’t.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:16:56am

re: #148 Targetpractice

What’s the point of buying bakeries if there’s nobody to buy bread? Who are they producing all those loaves of bread for? The rich certainly aren’t eating enough at a time to make up for the poor who aren’t.

THEY ARE BUYING ALL TEH BAKERIES SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE SURE NOBODY WILL BE BAKING TEH GHEY WEDDING CAKES!!!!!1!!!

150 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:16:58am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

Newspapers are now reporting law enforcement officer found no drugs at Chez Beiber. Bryan will ignore facts, as usual.

151 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:17:35am

I have been remodeling my dining room mostly by myself for two weeks, what did I miss? Actually, I’ve peeked in and updinged a few comments, but I’ve been up to my eyeballs in the real world and haven’t had a free morning til now. Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone? Not sure about my presence here, I’m thinking of doing a big once over refresh on the house so we can maybe put it on the market next year around this time, while I look for a job too. Financial troubles loom in my world right now.

Also too, has anyone noticed that part of Morning Joe is a repeat of earlier segments? Or am I hallucinating? Joe’s hair looks idiotic too, what is he doing there?

152 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:22:46am

re: #151 A Mom Anon

Joe’s hair looks idiotic too, what is he doing there?
Not sure, don’t watch

but i’ll bet dollars to donuts the ‘hair” is a suggestion of some consultant to boost ratings

153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:31:48am

How”s this for a business proposition? The whole world should loan the 85 families all the money you have so they can buy up everything else we own.

Then we can all work for them for minimum wage.

154 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:31:56am

re: #152 sattv4u2

It’s funky looking, almost Beiberish. ((((shudder))).

155 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:34:09am

re: #154 A Mom Anon

It’s funky looking, almost Beiberish. ((((shudder))).

my point!

156 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:36:06am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

How”s this for a business proposition? The whole world should loan the 85 families all the money you have so they can buy up everything else we own.

Then we can all work for them for minimum wage.WHATEVER THEY CARE TO PAY, THEY ARE TEH JRRB CREEYATERZ!!!1

157 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:37:44am

Here’s a question for the Galts: Where are the wealthy buying all those new bakeries? Answer: In China, or India, or Russia, or any of a number of other nations where the population isn’t lugging around debt in the form of medical bills, credit card debt, or mortgage payments for houses whose value still hasn’t recovered years later. Why expand here in the States when the average household is living paycheck to paycheck?

158 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:41:21am

re: #156 Pie-onist Overlord

I forgot to mention that they get to set the minimum wage.

159 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:44:06am

HURR HURR!!!!!

160 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:48:57am
161 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:50:52am

re: #159 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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The GOP up through the 60s was seen as the “progressive” party, the party that prided itself on pushing civil rights and workers rights.

Today, no Republican declares himself a “progressive” without immediately drawing the ire of his entire party down on his head.

162 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:54:22am

This brouhaha over Wendy Davis by the Rs has me really, really pissed off.

I have a similar story to Wendy’s, although I wasn’t able to achieve as much. Two babies by the time I was 19, and the marriage was over before the second one was born, but the final CA decree wasn’t done until I was 21. No trailer, but some sketchy places. No bitter second husband, either, who I believe is driving this narrative about Wendy. Still, I really do think Wendy Davis understands the problems of all women in being independent, whether single or married, mothers or not.

Davis’s own mother and father were divorced, and her mother struggled to support the 4 kids. Ironically, it’s reported that Davis’s father, a restaurant owner, introduced her to the 13 yrs older Jeffrey Davis. It would be interesting if Jeffrey Davis had the documents to back up what is being said about his ex-wife and if he approves of this character assassination attempt. I also think it’s pretty hypocritical and misogynistic to bring up this old history when we have male politicians who not only don’t pay child support but glory in it (Joe Walsh), and who get caught with drugs or prostitutes and stay in business, like Trey Radel and David Vitter.

I’m wondering if we’re going to hear something from her daughters, adults now, as well. Surely they must be proud of their mother, if that well hasn’t been poisoned.

I don’t think Wendy Davis has done anything in reporting her past that many politicians haven’t done. Everyone wants to appear at their best, but I don’t think she lied about her past circumstances, perhaps embellished the facts a bit, and so what?

163 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:55:40am

Well, I am off. No dog walk, no peace in my house ever. And then it’s more painting. With a little luck the furniture can be moved back into place today. BBL.

164 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:57:50am

LOLWUT

165 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 5:59:55am

re: #164 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT

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That’s the best they can do, speculating that he lied about voting Republican because a friend said he votes Democrat?

166 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:01:09am

WTFITS

167 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:01:46am

re: #166 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Headdesk

168 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:09:21am

Whoa, Philly.

Up to 16 inches of snow forecast for the Philadelphia area, local forecasters say - @NBCPhiladelphia

Federal offices in DC are closed today because of the weather.

169 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:11:58am

re: #150 wheat-dogghazi

Newspapers are now reporting law enforcement officer found no drugs at Chez Beiber. Bryan will ignore facts, as usual.

Or that there was never a large scale, peer reviewed examination that said that weed was a “gateway drug”. On the other hand there have been a few that show alcohol to be.

The report sponsored by the government (in the 40’s or 50’s sometime, and another in 1999) to bolster their want to make/keep weed illegal showed that the drug was not a “gateway drug” as they wanted it to. So they ignored it and went ahead and said it was anyway. But cigs are ok and global warming is a hoax.

170 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:12:00am

re: #168 Justanotherhuman

Whoa, Philly.

Up to 16 inches of snow forecast for the Philadelphia area, local forecasters say - @NBCPhiladelphia

Federal offices in DC are closed today because of the weather.

That’s a lot of snow.

171 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:12:11am

re: #168 Justanotherhuman

Whoa, Philly.

Up to 16 inches of snow forecast for the Philadelphia area, local forecasters say - @NBCPhiladelphia

Federal offices in DC are closed today because of the weather.

Yeah, they may be including the Poconos as “part of Philly.” Trying to stoke a little Snowmegeddon ratings fear.

Off to prep the snow blower…

172 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:12:37am

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

173 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:13:09am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

That’s a lot of snow.

Accuweather is still saying 6 to 10 inches. We’ll probably get about 8-9.

174 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:13:57am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

That’s a lot of snow.

Nahh

back when I was a kid in new England,, 16 inches was a “dusting” and just meant school would start an hour late ,,,, because once we got there we shoveled the schoolyard!!

175 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:14:17am

re: #173 Mattand

Accuweather is still saying 6 to 10 inches. We’ll probably get about 8-9.

It’s 4 degrees here, but at least there’s no snow forecast.

176 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:15:05am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

First Derp O’The Day: WHY WE SHOULD WORSHIP THE 0.01%

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I just do not get this form of reasoning. All it seems to be is the individual concocting some situation or occurrence based on their own or other biased thinking and then posting it as actual fact. A complete mind bending of bits and pieces of scenarios that is justified by fear and or hatred and is very real to them and their is no convincing them otherwise.

Is this some form of mental illness…like disassociation or detachment?

177 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:16:20am

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s 4 degrees here, but at least there’s no snow forecast.

You can have some of ours! I insist!

178 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:16:51am

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s 4 degrees here, but at least there’s no snow forecast.

Wasn’t Detroit supposed to get some?

179 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:17:29am

re: #178 Mattand

Wasn’t Detroit supposed to get some?

The Ninja Tigers scared it away.

180 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:17:35am

‘Morning, Lizards.

The ODS seems to be particularly thick today, especially on Facebook. What’s got the nutjobs so riled up?

Also, snow. How’s everybody doin’?

181 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:18:08am

re: #172 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

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Seriously, Mr. Galt subscribes to the belief that the rich are a people separate from the average man, that only they can be great and thus worthy of the wealth they hold? I’m not sure that Rand would approve of that belief.

182 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:18:19am

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

Thomas Sowell is such a tool.

Well, I guess that is a word you could use to describe him. But I think there is a whole thesaurus made for a guy like him.

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:18:49am

re: #180 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards.

The ODS seems to be particularly thick today, especially on Facebook. What’s got the nutjobs so riled up?

Also, snow. How’s everybody doin’?

MLK Day was probably the primary cause. A “hot spot” on the calendar for that sort of thing.

Per the snow thing - none expected here until the afternoon.

184 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:19:39am

re: #181 Targetpractice

Seriously, Mr. Galt subscribes to the belief that the rich are a people separate from the average man, that only they can be great and thus worthy of the wealth they hold? I’m not sure that Rand would approve of that belief.

Jordan Belfort (The Wolf of Wall Street) would agree wholeheartedly.

185 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:20:39am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

BRYAN IT MEANS STOP ALL CANADIAN IMMIGRATION IMMEDIATELY1!!!!11

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Retroactively…so we can send Cruz and Father Cruz back.

186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:21:33am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Is this some form of mental illness…like disassociation or detachment?

I see this as a lack in basic education: not only in civics, economics, science and history, but in how to think logically and critically.

We are going to pay dearly for this some day, about as soon as we face our first real crisis in the form of a major man-made and/or natural catastrophe that shuts down the infrastructure over a broad area and compels the government to intervene or declare martial law.

187 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:26:58am
188 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:27:46am

re: #154 A Mom Anon

It’s funky looking, almost Beiberish. ((((shudder))).

I think Joke is one of those guys that are going to have a hard time aging and accepting it. He seems so college prep and jock-like and a lot of times those types suffer from permanent mid-life crisis. He’ll never grow up.

Another indicator…how many divorces has he been through now? And would it surprise anyone if he became involved with women who are younger as he grows older. It will be ugly.

I was always amazed at the show intro images. Is that a political show or a fashion entertainment lifestyle show? Lots of mixed messages going on there.

189 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:28:35am

re: #183 Feline Fearless Leader

MLK Day was probably the primary cause. A “hot spot” on the calendar for that sort of thing.

Per the snow thing - none expected here until the afternoon.

One of the things that cracks me up about the MLK Day resentment is that it’s a freaking day off for many Americans, most of whom don’t get that much time off to begin with.

Yet they still bitch about it. They’re getting some time off, but since since MLK wasn’t a perfect human being who magically destroyed all racism ever, they fucking complain about it.

That Daily Kos editorial yesterday brought up a really good point. The author’s dad essentially said that MLK helped end the terror associated with Existing While Black in the South. That’s something I and most of my family and associates will never, ever have to face.

But apparently it’s more satisfying to complain that the only reason MLK got a holiday was because he’s black.

God, I hate people sometimes.

190 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:29:09am

re: #187 darthstar

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If there were no Todd Kincannon, the Democrats would have to invent him.

191 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:30:03am
192 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:30:09am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s already snowing, and sticking, here in Lower Manhattan, and they’re predicting up to a foot here. The morning commute was pretty quiet, but the evening commute is going to suck.

Gov. Christie’s inauguration is today, and his team has cancelled the inaugural ball scheduled for tonight at Ellis Island due to the weather.


Much of NJ is going to be hit hard by the snow (lower amounts N/W of NYC), so that’s probably a good thing.

I’m still in the air about the revelations by Hoboken mayor Dawn Zimmer and that there was a quid pro quo for storm relief aid flowing into Hoboken in exchange for getting a politically connected real estate development deal fast-tracked.

It’s something that sounds plausible considering what we’ve learned from the GWB mess, but I’d need to see more evidence that this quid pro quo actually occurred.

I’d say in Zimmer’s favor is the slow pace of recovery funds. A few GOP/conservative pundits were busy complaining over the weekend about how much money was supposed to flow into Hoboken, ignoring that it’s a major community, and part of a regional transit hub. Reducing flooding through the city is going to take significant funding, and the city had built a flood pumping system to handle rainfall events that used to flood the city. They’re going to need something significantly bigger to handle storm surges up the Hudson. It’s also going to take a rethinking about how development occurs along the rivers and coastlines.

We shouldn’t be making it easier to build just anything along the coasts. It has to be done with an eye towards elevation changes and rising waters due to climate change and coastal storms. It takes a reform of building codes, and buying up properties along the coast to build buffers.

None of this is cheap. But to do nothing is grossly irresponsible and will be even more costly.

193 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:30:34am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

If there were no Todd Kincannon, the Democrats would have to invent him.

I think the kid exists entirely on twitter.

194 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:31:46am

re: #191 darthstar

195 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:32:03am

re: #180 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards.

The ODS seems to be particularly thick today, especially on Facebook. What’s got the nutjobs so riled up?

Also, snow. How’s everybody doin’?

Feeling good out here in SoCal, hoping our friends bask east don’t get slammed. Ever see a movie on DVD or BluRay and really want to kick yourself for not seeing it in a theater? The Prestige. Wow. What a movie.

196 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:32:13am

re: #192 lawhawk

“Gov. Christie’s inauguration is today, and his team has cancelled the inaugural ball scheduled for tonight at Ellis Island due to the weather.”

His Guv’ness is busy routing snowplows away from Dem communities.

197 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:34:08am

Well let’s explore that.

Rich Guy #1 buys up a chain of bakeries to add to his portfolio of stuff. He pays part-time workers minimum wage, They produce crap shit and his bakeries do not sell wedding cakes to Teh Ghey because HURR HURR RELIJUS FREEDUMB!!!!1!!

Normal Guy #2 opens an artisan bakery because he loves to bake. He hires full time workers and pays them a decent wage as they learn valuable artisanal baking skills. They bake for everyone and specialize in custom made wedding cakes.

Which business model is more likely to be successful?

I can’t explain this to “John Galt” because it’s more than 140 chars.

198 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:35:18am

re: #192 lawhawk

What made me laugh were the people pushing the “$70 million went to individuals and businesses” meme, ignoring the fact that much of that was FEMA flood insurance that said citizens already paid premiums for.

If that’s the best Christie’s people have, there may be more to Mayor Zimmer’s complaint than they realize.

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:35:36am

*HEADDESK*

200 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:37:07am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

“Gov. Christie’s inauguration is today, and his team has cancelled the inaugural ball scheduled for tonight at Ellis Island due to the weather.”

His Guv’ness is busy routing snowplows away from Dem communities.

That’s OK. Cory Booker has already said he’s not attending the Christie inauguration. I doubt a lot of Dems will. : )

201 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:37:08am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

“Gov. Christie’s inauguration is today, and his team has cancelled the inaugural ball scheduled for tonight at Ellis Island due to the weather.”

His Guv’ness is busy routing snowplows away from Dem communities.

To be honest, this whole mess makes me wonder if my town and county, which normally lean Democratic, have gotten “punished” by the good Governor’s people.

202 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:37:24am
203 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:38:04am

I see many talking about the weather…just heard central Ohio is headed for -5° tonight with strong winds and a high tomorrow of 14° with continued strong winds. Currently we have about an inch or more snow from overnight but its hard to tell as it is all blowing sideways in the northeastern winds. In other words…it’s freaking cold!!!

This has been the coldest winter around here in a few years. Uggh. I’m ready to go out and find a damn groundhog and keep it out of the sun for years!!!

204 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:38:59am

re: #191 darthstar

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OMB RACECARD RACECARD RACECARD STOPIT RACECARD STOPIT RACECARD!!!11!!!1!!1!

205 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:39:12am

re: #192 lawhawk

Josh Marshall seems to think that Christie will try to come out of this by putting himself “above the fray” by going to ground for a week, then coming out with a huge “bust,” providing evidence of widespread “pay to play” in NJ politics and even in his own office.

206 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:40:19am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

I know that’s a bit tongue in cheek, but I really doubt that. State-agency snowplows pretty much are operated by the Turnpike Authority - clearing the Turnpike and GSP. State DOT handles other state highways. County plows will clear county roads, and towns/cities will clear their roads. Port Authority clears the approaches and spans of the bridges/tunnels.

Where a problem could occur? When the snow amounts become too great for the plows to keep up, cars get abandoned, and/or response after the storm is slowed.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:40:26am

re: #189 Mattand

One of the things that cracks me up about the MLK Day resentment is that it’s a freaking day off for many Americans, most of whom don’t get that much time off to begin with.

Yet they still bitch about it. They’re getting some time off, but since since MLK wasn’t a perfect human being who magically destroyed all racism ever, they fucking complain about it.

That Daily Kos editorial yesterday brought up a really good point. The author’s dad essentially said that MLK helped end the terror associated with Existing While Black in the South. That’s something I and most of my family and associates will never, ever have to face.

But apparently it’s more satisfying to complain that the only reason MLK got a holiday was because he’s black.

God, I hate people sometimes.

This. And that diary (plus other comments here and at KOS over the last day or so) pointed out a lot of things. I grew up without a concept of white privilege, mainly because the neighborhood (up to age 9) and the village (age 9 through high school) was 90+% white. So I did not see any of this stuff in action since it simply wasn’t on display. (I did see some class war stuff, but not color war.)

Moved around then and started university. Pretty much instant diversity thing. Wide mix of nationalities and homes from within the US. Mainly Pennsylvanians, but still lots of people from NYC, Long Island, and a mix of inner city and rural backgrounds. Two years of dorm living was a good mixing pot experience - with both good and bad encounters. Felt like a fish out of water, but stuck to being myself and not trying to act or be something else, and that got me through. After that was living in a fraternity house, which essentially at that time was back to white-only for the most part, but not exclusively.

And, just in those four years, I saw a wide spectrum of behaviors in people being bigots, racists, or just general assholes. The last does not seem to discriminate by color, home city, or parental wealth.

208 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:40:38am

re: #197 Pie-onist Overlord

Workers are just cogs, plug them in, if they break, throw them out and get some more. /////

209 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:41:45am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, actually he made it worse. A whole lot worse.

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No, he fixed the mess. When Reagan came into office, Communism was advancing and the US economy was in recession. When he left office, Communism was in retreat, the US economy was growing, and the US was in a much stronger position in the world than it had held in 1981.

210 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:41:47am

I just can’t even.
HURR HURR AN ACTUAL LETTER FROM MLK DOESN’T PROVE ANYTHING!!!!! HE COULD HAVE LIED!!!!11!!!!

211 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:42:15am

re: #205 Targetpractice

That’s a possibility.

I would rather have seen him clear the Port Authority of its board, and dump Samson, who was named in the emails. That he’s still around (and he’s connected to the Zimmer accusations) suggests a conflict of interest (one of many in this mess).

Instead, he let Baroni and Wildstein resign/retire with their pensions intact. Only Kelly got fired.

That’s notable in its own right.

212 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:43:14am

This Tweet is so full of FAIL

213 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:45:11am

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

No, he fixed the mess. When Reagan came into office, Communism was advancing and the US economy was in recession. When he left office, Communism was in retreat, the US economy was growing, and the US was in a much stronger position in the world than it had held in 1981.

The economy was growing for the same reason it went into recession when Bush Sr took office: defense spending was jacked through the fucking roof to buy all sorts of new military goodies, from a 600 ship fleet to B-1 and B-2 bombers and M1 tanks galore. Communism was in retreat because we caused them to implode through overspending.

214 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:45:49am

re: #212 Pie-onist Overlord

This Tweet is so full of FAIL

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Hey Will Turner, go ahead and drink that tap water now…

215 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:46:23am

re: #205 Targetpractice

Josh Marshall seems to think that Christie will try to come out of this by putting himself “above the fray” by going to ground for a week, then coming out with a huge “bust,” providing evidence of widespread “pay to play” in NJ politics and even in his own office.

That might work, if it hit the right Dems. And if the media doesn’t yawn “Business as usual.” To make it work, Christie would need allies in the press outside of Fox News (he can’t use the Wall Street Journal, since that paper led the charge on Bridgeghazi).

216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:46:24am

re: #208 Bulworth

Workers are just cogs, plug them in, if they break, throw them out and get some more. /////

And that is the aspect you cannot explain in 140 characters or in a bullet point/sound byte: The difference between labor as just another business expense like staples, toner or copier paper, and the concept of labor as a measure of human dignity.

The ability to not only live off one’s wage, but to better oneself and provide one’s family with the means to do so. Staples and toner do not care, and if they are dumped out on the street, it does not matter much to anyone.

But who gets stuck dealing with the social costs of people who are unable to find work or to live off the wage they earn?

217 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:47:17am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

I just can’t even.
HURR HURR AN ACTUAL LETTER FROM MLK DOESN’T PROVE ANYTHING!!!!! HE COULD HAVE LIED!!!!11!!!!

@viciousbabushka @AdamSchaefer218 Nor can you prove anything. #Spin

Damn. Now that is exactly what I was trying to get at in my comment in number 176. The facts are out there, and they absolutely refuse to acknowledge them because it doesn’t fit what reality they want it to be.

And with that…my own reality…I got to get something going before I freeze in place. Later on!

218 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:47:32am

And so it begins…

First flurries have materialized. Soon, armies of rabid snowmen will come to eat our children and cheat at Monopoly.

This freaking snow blower better start.

219 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:48:20am

re: #213 Targetpractice

The economy was growing for the same reason it went into recession when Bush Sr took office: defense spending was jacked through the fucking roof to buy all sorts of new military goodies, from a 600 ship fleet to B-1 and B-2 bombers and M1 tanks galore. Communism was in retreat because we caused them to implode through overspending.

Victories are still victories, and Reagan’s build-up was important in ending the Soviet Union.

220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:48:45am

re: #213 Targetpractice

. Communism was in retreat because we caused them to implode through overspending.

Communism was starting to collapse on itself anyways, the money they eared from the 1973 oil crisis bought them another fifteen years, but when oil prices bottomed out during the Iraq-Iran war, they totally fell apart. The military spending simply made sure they had insufficient means to remedy it.

221 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:49:05am

re: #192 lawhawk

I hear they had lots of tickets left anyway. Apparently a lot of people who normally shell out whatever cost is asked for these kinds of events are thinking it might be better to watch NCIS.

222 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:49:09am

re: #208 Bulworth

Workers are just cogs, plug them in, if they break, throw them out and get some more. /////

John Galt probably thinks HURR HURR JUST REPLACE ALL TEH WORKERS WITH A GIANT BREAD MACHINE!!!11!!!!1!!!!

Except that the Giant Bread Machine and the Giant Cake Machine cost a bunch of money and if they break down or need maintenance you will have to hire someone who makes more than minimum wage to come over and fix them.

223 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:49:11am

re: #218 Mattand

And so it begins…

First flurries have materialized. Soon, armies of rabid snowmen will come to eat our children and cheat at Monopoly.

This freaking snow blower better start.

Careful now, those snowmen have teeth…

224 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:49:22am

re: #218 Mattand

Heh.

Image: release_27th_snowmen-3.jpg

225 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:50:09am

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Victories are still victories, and Reagan’s build-up was important in ending the Soviet Union.

It’s a “victory” in the sense that Capitalism won by virtue of being able to walk away from the crash that killed Communism. Hell, we’re still paying today for that “victory.”

226 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:50:10am

re: #223 Targetpractice

re: #224 lawhawk

That’s awesome! I should have waited about 15 seconds before sending that tweet!

227 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:50:19am

11 seconds. A lifetime on the internet

228 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:53:40am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Communism was starting to collapse on itself anyways, the money they eared from the 1973 oil crisis bought them another fifteen years, but when oil prices bottomed out during the Iraq-Iran war, they totally fell apart. The military spending simply made sure they had insufficient means to remedy it.

The abandonment of the 1965 Kosygin Reforms played a big part in the USSR’s ultimate implosion. The Era of Stagnation under L. Brezhnev didn’t help matters much either.

229 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:54:12am

re: #206 lawhawk

I know that’s a bit tongue in cheek, but I really doubt that. State-agency snowplows pretty much are operated by the Turnpike Authority - clearing the Turnpike and GSP. State DOT handles other state highways. County plows will clear county roads, and towns/cities will clear their roads. Port Authority clears the approaches and spans of the bridges/tunnels.

Where a problem could occur? When the snow amounts become too great for the plows to keep up, cars get abandoned, and/or response after the storm is slowed.

That’s one reason the large cities close stuff down in advance of major weather threats. Large traffic volumes through choke points. And once there is an accident, or worse, anything leading to abandoned cars then removal issues compound since the trucks and plow have issues getting around the newly placed obstacles.

230 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:55:05am

No arrests, no trials. Just kill ‘em? This is the land Snowden loves?

231 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:55:52am

HURR HURR!!!1!!

232 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:55:52am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

The abandonment of the 1965 Kosygin Reforms played a big part in the USSR’s ultimate implosion. The Era of Stagnation under L. Brezhnev didn’t help matters much either.

They spent the 70’s and 80’s selling raw materials (oil, minerals) off cheap to buy consumer goods that they could not produce. By the time they tried to turn things around under Gorbachev, the system was too sclerotic and entrenched to change from within.

233 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:55:53am

re: #229 Feline Fearless Leader

So far, I haven’t seen state of emergencies issued for NYC/NJ/LI just yet. That could change as day goes on and the snow starts piling up. That would allow the DOTs to get ahead of the storm - or at least not fall so far behind that the roads become impassible.

234 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:56:12am
235 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:56:16am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

And that is the aspect you cannot explain in 140 characters or in a bullet point/sound byte: The difference between labor as just another business expense like staples, toner or copier paper, and the concept of labor as a measure of human dignity.

The ability to not only live off one’s wage, but to better oneself and provide one’s family with the means to do so. Staples and toner do not care, and if they are dumped out on the street, it does not matter much to anyone.

But who gets stuck dealing with the social costs of people who are unable to find work or to live off the wage they earn?

Well, at least please keep the toner out of the water supply.
:p

236 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:57:13am

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

Due process? Right to jury trial? Just executing them on your own soil? But hey, the US might actually want to try Snowden for espionage and would treat him as a criminal instead of liberating hero.

The dudebros hypocrisy is showing.

237 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:57:32am

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

No arrests, no trials. Just kill ‘em? This is the land Snowden loves?

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Until details of the “killing” comes out, I would hold off on judging the “No arrests, no trials. Just kill ‘em? “

Could have been a confrontation/ shootout a la the Boston Marathon bomber who was “killed” without an arrest/ trial

238 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:58:05am

re: #236 lawhawk

See 237

239 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:58:21am

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

240 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:59:02am

re: #233 lawhawk

So far, I haven’t seen state of emergencies issued for NYC/NJ/LI just yet. That could change as day goes on and the snow starts piling up. That would allow the DOTs to get ahead of the storm - or at least not fall so far behind that the roads become impassible.

I know that a lot of schools went on 1/2 schedules by last night. And the flurries are starting here in Philly already.

241 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:59:15am

re: #239 lawhawk

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They’ve probably already bought off Snowden with free passes to Sochi.

242 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:59:20am

re: #237 sattv4u2

The Russians have a history of not bothering with due process and killing terrorists - with or without any kind of intent to arrest.

243 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:59:27am

re: #159 Pie-onist Overlord

Liberals need 2 learn real history, not some fantasy history from the Daily KOS!

Man, talk about projection. Mythology has always been the ideologues replacement for history.

As my favourite writer puts it, “History is not about a limited dialectic, but an unlimited movement.”

Damn, but sometimes the wingnuts really pick my ass.

244 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:59:55am

re: #242 lawhawk

The Russians have a history of not bothering with due process and killing terrorists - with or without any kind of intent to arrest.

How in any way does that negate what I posted?

245 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 6:59:57am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

They spent the 70’s and 80’s selling raw materials (oil, minerals) off cheap to buy consumer goods that they could not produce. By the time they tried to turn things around under Gorbachev, the system was too sclerotic and entrenched to change from within.

Yep. There’s a wide variety of reasons for the USSR’s ultimate collapse - it can’t be pinned down to one cause alone; many factors came into play. And certainly by the time Gorbachev introduced his perestroika program, it was already far too late. Those reforms, had they been done in the early to mid 1960s, might have yielded positive long-term results. But, that’s speculation - a “what if” of history.

246 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:02:52am

Got a late New Year’s present. VP for our division (N.A./European operations) just sent an email announcing a 2.5% raise for salaried employees backdated to the 1st of the year.

Round for the house on me.

:)

247 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:03:24am

Tracking NYC snow plow activity.

And the NWS is upping the total for Eastern LI and into New England - 12-20 inches.

248 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:03:35am

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

Got a late New Year’s present. VP for our division (N.A./European operations) just sent an email announcing a 2.5% raise for salaried employees backdated to the 1st of the year.

Round for the house on me.

:)

Bloody Mary please ,,,, extra celery!! (healthy eating this week!!)

249 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:05:11am

re: #231 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!

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250 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:06:41am

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

No arrests, no trials. Just kill ‘em? This is the land Snowden loves?

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Radical Islamists such as that often cannot be taken prisoner, and if you get close enough to try they’ll often blow themselves up (and take you with them). A raid against 7 such people has to be expected to be a ‘kill-op’.

251 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:06:49am

re: #247 lawhawk

Tracking NYC snow plow activity.

And the NWS is upping the total for Eastern LI and into New England - 12-20 inches.

Weather radar seems to showing it tracking from southwest to northeast as the mass of snowfall comes generally eastward.

Which looks like a track that will snow constantly and heavily on LI and New England.

252 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:07:41am

“Super Bowl”

253 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:08:26am

re: #176 ObserverArt

I just do not get this form of reasoning. All it seems to be is the individual concocting some situation or occurrence based on their own or other biased thinking and then posting it as actual fact. A complete mind bending of bits and pieces of scenarios that is justified by fear and or hatred and is very real to them and their is no convincing them otherwise.

Is this some form of mental illness…like disassociation or detachment?

It’s a sign, in my opinion, of a severe inferiority complex. These people are unconsciously suffering from very weak egos, a sense of self. So, as Eric Fromme pointed out in Escape From Freedom, allowing themselves to be absorbed into something ‘greater’. They become, in their minds, part of the 1% with all its power.

So any criticism or difference of opinion must be attacked viciously because such things are an attack on their very identity. If the 1%, or what ever they’ve attached themselves to, falls they vanish since they have no identity of their own.

It’s another way the wingnuts resemble the Fascists and Marxists. It’s why I’ve often said The Borg are some people’s idea of Nirvana.

254 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:09:20am

re: #185 ObserverArt

Retroactively…so we can send Cruz and Father Cruz back.

No! We don’t want ‘em! semi-//

255 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:09:31am

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

Got a late New Year’s present. VP for our division (N.A./European operations) just sent an email announcing a 2.5% raise for salaried employees backdated to the 1st of the year.

Round for the house on me.

:)

Congratulations! Anything for the hourly wage slaves?

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:11:14am

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

Congratulations! Anything for the hourly wage slaves?

Good question. The plants are unionized, so their wages would be per the contract. Not sure about the hourlies here at the HQ, and it’s sort of rude to ask. :-/

257 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:11:29am
Pastor tells Fox News: Obama’s getting us ready to embrace the anti-Christ

“My thesis is, people will have been conditioned long before the anti-Christ comes to accept governmental overreach, and that’s what you’re seeing with President Obama.”

[…]

“President Obama is without apology the most pro-abortion president in history, but what’s even worse, Bill, is we are being conditioned to accept that government has the right to persecute people of faith,”
rawstory.com

Remember, it’s the Left that is hostile to “Teh Christians”……

258 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:13:45am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Radical Islamists such as that often cannot be taken prisoner, and if you get close enough to try they’ll often blow themselves up (and take you with them). A raid against 7 such people has to be expected to be a ‘kill-op’.

Oh please. So you’re apologizing for the Russians who simply attacked them with all their resources and force before they could blow themselves up, if that is what they actually intended to do?

They were still “suspects” not perpetrators at that stage.

259 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:13:56am

Time to go walk the dogs. Let me know if this cat moves.

260 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:14:48am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

Remember, it’s the Left that is hostile to “Teh Christians”……

The last two paragraphs are interesting:

Despite his lengthy indictment, Jeffers pooh-poohed the notion that Obama could be the satanic figure predicted in scripture.

“I’m not saying President Obama is the anti-Christ — in fact, I’m sure he’s not — because the anti-Christ is going to have higher poll numbers, according to the Bible, at least in the beginning,” Jeffers said. “But I believe he is conditioning people to accept governmental overreach, which they will finally give into when this final dictator comes, whether that’s 10 years from now or 1,000 years from now.”

261 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:14:50am

re: #259 darthstar

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Cat has engaged radar.

262 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:16:18am

re: #261 Targetpractice

Cat has engaged radar.

That should replace the flashing Drudge sirens.

263 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:17:28am

re: #258 Justanotherhuman

Oh please. So you’re apologizing for the Russians who simply attacked them with all their resources and force before they could blow themselves up, if that is what they actually intended to do?

They were still “suspects” not perpetrators at that stage.

And again, what of the Boston Marathon bomber!

We have NO idea yet the circumstances behind this ‘killing”
MAYBE the Russians just hunted them down and killed them

But by the same MAYBE, perhaps once approached these people resisted, started shooting (like Tamerlan Tsarnaev did in Boston) and were killed due to superior firepower

264 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:17:44am

re: #249 darthstar

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Sirota must have read this.

Snowden to ask Russian police for protection after US threats - lawyer

rt.com

Just remember that RT is an organ of the Russian govt.

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:18:07am

re: #259 darthstar

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Time to go walk the dogs. Let me know if this cat moves.

Nice picture of a DEW site in operation.
;)

266 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:18:32am

And on that note, the belated long quiet drive home beckons!

267 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:19:30am

re: #258 Justanotherhuman

Oh please. So you’re apologizing for the Russians who simply attacked them with all their resources and force before they could blow themselves up, if that is what they actually intended to do?

They were still “suspects” not perpetrators at that stage.

Not the case. The Russians know who the leaders of these groups are and such a leader became a perpetrator a long way back.

But moreover, yeah I’ll defend the Russians on this one because I don’t care what happens to Radical Islamists as long as they are neutralized.

268 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:19:40am

re: #263 sattv4u2

And again, what of the Boston Marathon bomber!

We have NO idea yet the circumstances behind this ‘killing”
MAYBE the Russians just hunted them down and killed them

But by the same MAYBE, perhaps once approached these people resisted, started shooting (like Tamerlan Tsarnaev did in Boston) and were killed due to superior firepower

Big difference. We know what happened in Boston—there was continuous coverage. We’ll never know what happened in Dagestan.

269 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:21:24am

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Victories are still victories, and Reagan’s build-up was important in ending the Soviet Union.

Even before Reagan came to power I knew the Soviet Union was doomed.

Brezhnev got to be head of the Politburo with the backing of the armed forces. As a reward he started jacking up arms spending. By the time Reagan became President something like 30% of the Soviet GDP, which was rather smaller than the States, was going to manufacturing armaments.

This is unsustainable as armaments are, economically, the most extravagant of luxury goods. Politically they are very important but from an economic point of view they are a money pit.

So, I never worried about the Soviet Union.

The West did not win the Cold War. The Soviets lost.

270 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:22:35am

Well, it looks like there will be bipartisanship in the NJ legislature, it’s just not the kind that will help Christie:

NJ Lawmakers To Launch Joint Senate, Assembly Committee To Investigate Christie Scandal

The New Jersey General Assembly and Senate plan on Monday morning to announce the creation of a special joint committee dedicated to investigating the scandal that has fallen on Gov. Chris Christie’s (R) administration, a source in the State House confirmed to TPM.

The establishment of the joint committee, which was first reported by NBC News’ Michael Isikoff, will be announced at a press conference scheduled for 10:30 a.m.

Last week, the Assembly and Senate established separate committees to investigate the closures, which caused days of gridlock in Fort Lee, N.J. Some Democrats have alleged the closures were ordered by allies of Christie as retaliation against a mayor who declined to endorse him.

271 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:23:45am

re: #269 Romantic Heretic

Even before Reagan came to power I knew the Soviet Union was doomed.

Brezhnev got to be head of the Politburo with the backing of the armed forces. As a reward he started jacking up arms spending. By the time Reagan became President something like 30% of the Soviet GDP, which was rather smaller than the States, was going to manufacturing armaments.

This is unsustainable as armaments are, economically, the most extravagant of luxury goods. Politically they are very important but from an economic point of view they are a money pit.

So, I never worried about the Soviet Union.

The West did not win the Cold War. The Soviets lost.

Which is one reason why when you have them there comes a horrible temptation to use them since otherwise you’ve wasted the money. (Beyond the deterrence effect of course.) Not to mention the opportunity cost for what you could have spent that money on instead of military goods.

272 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:26:05am

re: #269 Romantic Heretic

Even before Reagan came to power I knew the Soviet Union was doomed.

Brezhnev got to be head of the Politburo with the backing of the armed forces. As a reward he started jacking up arms spending. By the time Reagan became President something like 30% of the Soviet GDP, which was rather smaller than the States, was going to manufacturing armaments.

This is unsustainable as armaments are, economically, the most extravagant of luxury goods. Politically they are very important but from an economic point of view they are a money pit.

So, I never worried about the Soviet Union.

The West did not win the Cold War. The Soviets lost.

There was also the money pit that was the Afghanistan War, something that we like to say we helped the Afghans win, but in reality had more to do with the Soviets just throwing in the towel.

273 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:26:17am

{sigh}

274 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:26:37am

re: #273 sattv4u2

{sigh}

No golf today?

275 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:27:29am

re: #192 lawhawk

A few GOP/conservative pundits were busy complaining over the weekend about how much money was supposed to flow into Hoboken, ignoring that it’s a major community, and part of a regional transit hub.

Chuck Todd had Haley Barbour on this morning to discredit Zimmer, and he was pounding the point that she wanted “one third of the total recovery funds” repeatedly.

276 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:29:03am

re: #275 jaunte

Chuck Todd had Haley Barbour on this morning to discredit Zimmer, and he was pounding the point that she wanted “one third of the total recovery funds” repeatedly.

One excuse I heard yesterday was “The money went to the people, not the government.” Which is why the mayor was saying just 1% of all money requested by the local government had been granted.

277 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:29:12am

re: #272 Targetpractice

There was also the money pit that was the Afghanistan War, something that we like to say we helped the Afghans win, but in reality had more to do with the Soviets just throwing in the towel.

The Stingers did play an important role in getting the USSR to quit, since they reduced the effectiveness of Mi-24 gunships and made airmobile operations more dangerous.

278 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:29:33am

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

Which is one reason why when you have them there comes a horrible temptation to use them since otherwise you’ve wasted the money. (Beyond the deterrence effect of course.) Not to mention the opportunity cost for what you could have spent that money on instead of military goods.

That’s true.

But remember, most of the Soviets at that time had been in The Great Patriotic War. The one where 20 million Soviet citizens died. Where pretty much everything from Berlin to Moscow was destroyed.

They knew the next war would be worse. So although all payed lip service to ‘expanding Communism’ and some believed it, they didn’t want to go through that again.

279 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:31:02am

re: #269 Romantic Heretic

Even before Reagan came to power I knew the Soviet Union was doomed.

Brezhnev got to be head of the Politburo with the backing of the armed forces. As a reward he started jacking up arms spending. By the time Reagan became President something like 30% of the Soviet GDP, which was rather smaller than the States, was going to manufacturing armaments.

This is unsustainable as armaments are, economically, the most extravagant of luxury goods. Politically they are very important but from an economic point of view they are a money pit.

So, I never worried about the Soviet Union.

The West did not win the Cold War. The Soviets lost.

One thing I noticed when we had Soviet specialists over to our company (this was at the tail end, ca 1990) and we would show them the latest spectroscopy or analytical or whatever sort of device, and they would say something like “We saw one just like that, a prototype at a research laboratory in Minsk”, and I would explain that the model they saw was already in the third generation of serial production.

Their system lacked the means to get these brilliant ideas into production.

280 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:31:39am

re: #275 jaunte

Chuck Todd had Haley Barbour on this morning to discredit Zimmer, and he was pounding the point that she wanted “one third of the total recovery funds” repeatedly.

Dafaq? Why is Haley Barbour of Mississippi even brought on to comment on the affairs in New Jersey?! Chuck Todd is such a fucking douchebag…..excuse my language.

281 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:31:39am

re: #278 Romantic Heretic

That’s true.

But remember, most of the Soviets at that time had been in The Great Patriotic War. The one where 20 million Soviet citizens died. Where pretty much everything from Berlin to Moscow was destroyed.

They new the next war would be worse. So although all payed lip service to ‘expanding Communism’ and some believed it, they didn’t want to go through that again.

So their support for Communist insurgencies is Latin America was what, exactly? Because it sure as hell was a lot more than lip service.

282 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:32:06am

re: #278 Romantic Heretic

That’s true.

But remember, most of the Soviets at that time had been in The Great Patriotic War. The one where 20 million Soviet citizens died. Where pretty much everything from Berlin to Moscow was destroyed.

They new the next war would be worse. So although all payed lip service to ‘expanding Communism’ and some believed it, they didn’t want to go through that again.

Which is one reason you spy. You want to know what the real attitude and views are behind the proud rhetoric. And the nagging worry that those in charge on the other side will eventually find themselves in a bind and decide that if they are going to go down they will burn the house (world) down with them.

283 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:32:50am

He’s gotta be kidding.

Sen. David Vitter, R-La., will be a candidate in Louisiana’s 2015 governor’s race, he announces in email to supporters - @AP

Of course, it is Louisiana.

284 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:33:00am

YOu also re: #281 Dark_Falcon

So their support for Communist insurgencies is Latin America was what, exactly? Because it sure as hell was a lot more than lip service.

You also wanna see your weapons systems tested under combat condition, and what better means than by a proxy war?

285 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:33:34am

re: #283 Justanotherhuman

He’s gotta be kidding.

Sen. David Vitter, R-La., will be a candidate in Louisiana’s 2015 governor’s race, he announces in email to supporters - @AP

Of course, it is Louisiana.

He has the diaper fetish vote locked-up.

286 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:33:36am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Dafaq? Why is Haley Barbour of Mississippi even brought on to comment on the affairs in New Jersey?!

I would bet he was on assignment.

287 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:34:36am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Dafaq? Why is Haley Barbour of Mississippi even brought on to comment on the affairs in New Jersey?! Chuck Todd is such a fucking douchebag…..excuse my language.

Friends of Christie Movement.

288 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:35:27am

re: #287 ObserverArt

Friends of Christie Movement.

But different than the Friends of Carlotta I assume?
;)

289 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:36:23am

re: #287 ObserverArt

Friends of Christie Movement.

I imagine the Morning (Holy) Joe crew were in full defense mode this morning.

290 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:39:23am

re: #275 jaunte

Chuck Todd had Haley Barbour on this morning to discredit Zimmer, and he was pounding the point that she wanted “one third of the total recovery funds” repeatedly.

Haley Barbour? The governor of Mississippi, whose ties/experience with Ashbritt led Gov. Christie to pick them in a no-bid to handle Sandy waste removal?

Well, at least Barbour is consistent in defending Christie.

But on the facts, he’s just wrong.

$70 million was set aside for storm projects. Just $342,000 was disbursed. The $70 million includes FEMA flood assistance and other direct assistance to businesses and individuals affected by Sandy (which is most everyone in Hoboken given the flooding to most of the city.

State officials arrive at the $70 million figure by lumping in more than $43 million in payouts Hoboken residents and business owners received from flood insurance policies administered by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. The state has no control over how that money is awarded.

The same goes for $6.13 million Hoboken residents received in “individual assistance” grants from the federal government and more than $8.5 million in loans the U.S. Small Business Administration approved for merchants and residents.

Zimmer’s number includes only funding given to the city of Hoboken from two pots of money the state has discretion over: the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program and the Community Development Block Grant Program.

Zimmer claims the state shortchanged her city on disaster aid because she didn’t push forward a redevelopment initiative known as the Rockefeller project, so named because of the company backing it. The mayor said Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno personally warned her Sandy aid would be tied to the project’s outcome, a charge Guadagno called “not only false but illogical.”

Zimmer said she applied for $100 million in grants to help mitigate against future disasters but received only $142,000. Separately, through the block grant program, the city requested — and received — another $200,000 to plan for future storms.

Both figures are accurate. But that’s also apples-oranges comparison. Some projects do take time to let-out and get underway, and block grants were spread across the state, with some areas getting larger amounts, including Newark (the state’s largest city) but others getting $10,000. Hoboken got an amount less than what was requested, but it appears reasonable.

There’s no word here on how much Newark applied for (or Jersey City or Little Falls or Moonachie or any of the hardest hit Jersey Shore communities). No word on whether those requests were out of line with what Hoboken requested.

The request had to be balanced by statewide need.

291 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:39:25am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

I imagine the Morning (Holy) Joe crew were in full defense mode this morning.

Though they’re planning on releasing mutant cheese mold on Hoboken if they do not get the full cooperation of the whole of the state.

292 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:43:25am

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Sirota must have read this.

Snowden to ask Russian police for protection after US threats - lawyer

rt.com

Just remember that RT is an organ of the Russian govt.

Sirota’s quoting himself quoting Buzzfeed.

293 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:43:43am

re: #249 darthstar

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Hey man. I’m just asking questions.

294 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:48:23am

Just one of the reasons I have no use for religion. And I’m an ex-Catholic.

Archdiocese releases documents detailing sexual abuse by priests

suntimes.com

A woman I worked w/10 yrs ago here in NC had been abused in CT, where she was from, by the same priest who abused her brother; she was around 8, he was a little older. She received a settlement but I doubt it made up for any of the pain she suffered through her life or any of the decisions she had to make in her wrecked life. She didn’t talk about it very much, except broadly because she was still the victim of that priest.

295 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:48:47am

re: #263 sattv4u2

And again, what of the Boston Marathon bomber!

He had already killed people and taken hostile actions against law enforcement, on repeated occasions.

Not sticking up for anyone here, just pointing out a fundamental difference.

296 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:53:45am

re: #291 Feline Fearless Leader

Though they’re planning on releasing mutant cheese mold on Hoboken if they do not get the full cooperation of the whole of the state.

No, no no. Mutant cheese mold is a weapon used by Scott Walker, not Chris Christie.

297 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:53:52am

I see they have named this storm “Janus”.


Nothing like a Roman god to mess up your day.

298 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:57:07am

re: #297 Justanotherhuman

I see they have named this storm “Janus”.

Because it originated in Joplin, Missouri?

299 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:57:28am

re: #297 Justanotherhuman

Not they. Just TWC. It’s a purely BS business decision.

I will go with Polar Vortex II, Revenge of the Arctic Airmass.

300 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:58:08am

re: #299 lawhawk

Not they. Just TWC. It’s a purely BS business decision.

I will go with Polar Vortex II, Revenge of the Arctic Airmass.

Polar Vortex II, Arctic Bugaloo.

301 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:58:17am
302 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:58:45am

re: #299 lawhawk

Not they. Just TWC. It’s a purely BS business decision.

I will go with Polar Vortex II, Revenge of the Arctic Airmass.

With its Chicago area companion, Lake Effect II, Electric Bugaloo.

303 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:59:32am
GOP Florida House candidate on Obama: ‘It’s time to arrest and hang him high’ via RS

Joshua Black, a candidate for Florida House District 68, said on Monday that the time had come to “hang” President Barack Obama.

“It’s time to arrest and hang him high,” he added.

Republican candidate for House District 67 Chris Latvala replied in shock. “You aren’t seriously calling for the killing of Obama are you?” he asked. “I know you are crazy but good heavens.U R an embarrassment.”

Flori-DUH continues to lead the nation in the crazy…..

P.S. He’s not White

304 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:59:48am

re: #300 Feline Fearless Leader

Polar Vortex II, Arctic Bugaloo.

What, no votes for “Snownado”?

305 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:02:48am

re: #304 Targetpractice

What, no votes for “Snownado”?

Not in Manhattan. Well, maybe in 6” stilettos?

306 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:03:05am

Morning Lizards. Snow falling heavily now. Wind chills will be as low as -10 tonight. I scanned the 10 day forecast at weather.com, and while no more heavy snow is on the horizon, temperatures above freezing aren’t either. If that holds, they’ll be ice skating on the lake at Prospect Park before long.

Also, I see I was beaten to the punch on mentioning to the raving moron from Florida who wants to execute the President that, uh, Benedict Arnold was never hanged.

307 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:03:22am

re: #304 Targetpractice

What, no votes for “Snownado”?

No…too close to Snowden!

308 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:04:50am

re: #307 ObserverArt

No…too close to Snowden!

Snowjob.

309 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:05:04am

re: #297 Justanotherhuman

Wait, am I reading that right? No traffic in DC? They must have shut the entire city down because of the storm. DC has (IMHO) the worst traffic in the US east of LA and north of Atlanta. The Long Island Expressway has nothing on the perpetual parking lot that is the DC Beltway.

310 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:05:54am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

No, not pot. Millions of dollars in the hands of a young douchebag. That’s the “gateway” to cocaine.

311 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:06:26am

re: #309 Ian G.

Wait, am I reading that right? No traffic in DC? They must have shut the entire city down because of the storm. DC has (IMHO) the worst traffic in the US east of LA and north of Atlanta. The Long Island Expressway has nothing on the perpetual parking lot that is the DC Beltway.

Yeah. All Fed offices closed. Except for the SC. No WH tours, no nothing.

Rs will be complaining about Federal workers getting 2 day MLK holiday now. Just wait for it.

312 Ryan King  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:06:36am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Flori-DUH continues to lead the nation in the crazy…..

P.S. He’s not White

Note douchewads calling out Gawker for race baiting, because the nutter GOP is black.

Get that: he can’t be racist because he’s black. But according to a small percentage of conservatives (94.398%), blacks are the real racists.

They’re all over the place.

313 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:08:23am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Flori-DUH continues to lead the nation in the crazy…..

P.S. He’s not White

That’s the nutty thing: Joshua Black is actually black, Chris Latvala is the sane Republican who tried to talk him down :

314 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:09:38am

They are already planning a sequel to “Sharknado”, including the Polar Vortex: “Grizzlard”

315 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:10:23am

I have a LFG Pages question. Maybe the Lizards around at the moment can answer for me.

Can a side bar page be a total comedy send-up? I have a photoshop and a fun explanation written as scientific news that I would like to do. And my thinking is it would make a fun page and with the time involved I wouldn’t mind it sticking around and being available a bit more than a standard comment in a thread.

Thanks for any advice. Maybe I should wait and ask Charles, or email him or something. I do not want to be out of line or abuse his desires for pages being newsworthy and topical.

316 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:11:30am

Apparently the only way a Black man can be accepted in the GOP is to be completely batshit crazy. For evidence I present: Allen West, Alan Keyes, and now Joshua Black.

317 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:12:01am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Dafaq? Why is Haley Barbour of Mississippi even brought on to comment on the affairs in New Jersey?! Chuck Todd is such a fucking douchebag…..excuse my language.

Barbour is tied in to the story via the no-bid contracts a carting firm got to haul away Sandy debris - a carting firm that was among the clients of his lobbying firm.

I’m sure that was discussed in great detail.
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318 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:12:56am

re: #315 ObserverArt

I have a LFG Pages question. Maybe the Lizards around at the moment can answer for me.

Can a side bar page be a total comedy send-up? I have a photoshop and a fun explanation written as scientific news that I would like to do. And my thinking is it would make a fun page and with the time involved I wouldn’t mind it sticking around and being available a bit more than a standard comment in a thread.

Thanks for any advice. Maybe I should wait and ask Charles, or email him or something. I do not want to be out of line or abuse his desires for pages being newsworthy and topical.

There is a “Humor” category, so go for it.

319 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:16:23am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

He’s a certified street preacher, doncha know, who moved to FL and finally found some white people to con in the R party.

“I moved to Saint Petersburg back in 2007, in November, with ministry on my mind. I had been practicing street evangelism in Saint Louis, but always alone. So, finding a team here, I decided to go where I could grow. And grow I have. It hasn’t always been easy, and some of the difficulties were my own fault, but I have no regrets about moving to Florida and am very grateful for the friends that I have found here.

“My involvement in politics began in 2012, as I tried to influence the Republican presidential primary. I didn’t do much at first, not finding time, but I wanted to do more. After Florida’s primary, I got involved in the local Republican Executive Committee. There I met local candidates for elected office and decided to volunteer to help some of them. I learned a lot, even though the Republicans lost badly and seemed at a loss to explain why. I knew why.”

This guy knows where to get money and it’s not on the street.

joshuablack2014.com

Home schooled with a GPA of 3.9? But no college? And an admirer of Ben Carson and hater of Common Core.

This website is just too slick for a self-admitted “street preacher” to have devised. And it’s pretty devoid of specifics about Joshua Black himself. He came out of nowhere, it seems.

320 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:16:26am

re: #318 Pie-onist Overlord

There is a “Humor” category, so go for it.

Thanks, I did not know there was a category. I need to do some reading regarding them. I’ve yet to create one.

321 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:16:49am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Apparently the only way a Black man can be accepted in the GOP is to be completely batshit crazy. For evidence I present: Allen West, Alan Keyes, and now Joshua Black.

I noted that the other day. No more Colin Powell. No more JC Watts even. Just utterly unhinged lunatics. Add Herman Cain and EW Jackson to the list.

322 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:18:17am

re: #321 Ian G.

I noted that the other day. No more Colin Powell. No more JC Watts even. Just utterly unhinged lunatics. Add Herman Cain and EW Jackson to the list.

And add Ben Carson as ‘Justanotherhuman’ noted above.

323 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:18:36am

re: #319 Justanotherhuman

This website is just too slick for a self-admitted “street preacher” to have devised.

There are standard web templates that hosting services provide, the user just has to fill in the pages with stuff. No technical expertise required.

324 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:21:24am

I think “John Galt” has a limited understanding of math.

I know a family who owns two bakeries. They live in my neighborhood and probably make about as much money as I do. They are comfortable but hardly the 1%.

Also they work longer hours than I do and HARD MANUAL WORK. Get up at 3:00AM to prepare the day’s product.

325 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:24:38am

re: #323 Pie-onist Overlord

There are standard web templates that hosting services provide, the user just has to fill in the pages with stuff. No technical expertise required.

I think he has plenty of help. And he’s fallen into the trap and their meme can be, “See, Black people want to hang Obama.”

He wouldn’t be the R’s first patsy, even if he is probably batshit crazy.

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:25:09am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

I just can’t even.
HURR HURR AN ACTUAL LETTER FROM MLK DOESN’T PROVE ANYTHING!!!!! HE COULD HAVE LIED!!!!11!!!!

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Good Lord, he’s dumber than the real Ronnie. At least Raygun had Alzheimer’s to blame. What’s this maroon’s problem?

327 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:25:49am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Apparently the only way a Black man can be accepted in the GOP is to be completely batshit crazy. For evidence I present: Allen West, Alan Keyes, and now Joshua Black.

I’ll also add that those black men who follow the GOP prescription of “pulling yourself up by the bootstraps” are dismissed as “thugs”. Jay-Z, millionaire entrepreneur from the projects of Brooklyn, should be exhibit A in the GOP success story book. Why isn’t he, unless the GOP is entirely defined by racial identity, and the only minorities allowed in are those who bow before the implied superiority of white rural Christian American culture.

328 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:26:36am

re: #311 Justanotherhuman

Yeah. All Fed offices closed. Except for the SC. No WH tours, no nothing.

Rs will be complaining about Federal workers getting 2 day MLK holiday now. Just wait for it.

On a related note, this article features young Republicans learning the social skills and racial sensitivity they’re so famous for:

Fraternity Suspended After Throwing MLK Day Party with Watermelon Cups

329 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:26:39am

re: #326 William Barnett-Lewis

Good Lord, he’s dumber than the real Ronnie. At least Raygun had Alzheimer’s to blame. What’s this maroon’s problem?

He’s just stupid. Also too, probably home schooled so he wouldn’t learn about Teh Evolutions & all that secular humanist satanic stuff.

330 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:28:37am

The Home-screweled like ronnie also learn “Talking Points” in “How To Argue With A Libtard” in which the “Libtard” (moi) produces an actual document, just dismiss it by claiming, with no basis, that the subject “lied” as we have seen demonstrated here.

331 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:29:19am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

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I think “John Galt” has a limited understanding of math.

I know a family who owns two bakeries. They live in my neighborhood and probably make about as much money as I do. They are comfortable but hardly the 1%.

Econ 101. What sane people take.
Ayn Rand 101. What fools take.

For, as we are well aware, “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
― John Rogers

332 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:31:34am

Seen the FLOTUS dunk vid yet?

Youtube Video

Now available in gif format!

Image: airflotus.0_standard_709.0.gif

333 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:33:08am

re: #328 Mattand

On a related note, this article features young Republicans learning the social skills and racial sensitivity they’re so famous for:

Fraternity Suspended After Throwing MLK Day Party with Watermelon Cups

You see? Persecution of harmless fun just for the crime of PABOAOWW (Partying and being obnoxious and offensive while white)

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334 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:33:30am

The Wendy Davis Derangement continues:

335 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:35:10am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

The Wendy Davis Derangement continues:

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This is just a warmup of what they have waiting for Elizabeth Warren if she should run in 2016

336 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:35:12am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

The Wendy Davis Derangement continues:

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She really has them terrified, doesn’t she?

337 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:36:55am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

This is just a warmup of what they have waiting for Elizabeth Warren if she should run in 2016

Hillary will run in 2016. Elizabeth Warren will run in 2024.

338 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:37:44am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

The Wendy Davis Derangement continues:

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I’m convinced they are taking the nasty to 11 in hopes it will become too much for her and she’ll drop out.

339 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:37:54am

re: #326 William Barnett-Lewis

Good Lord, he’s dumber than the real Ronnie. At least Raygun had Alzheimer’s to blame. What’s this maroon’s problem?

Reagan wouldn’t have been such a fool as to get down into the weeds where a letter could prove him wrong like that. But he had better speech writers and fact-checkers than your average wingnut.

340 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:41:20am

The right’s fetish-like obsession with Ronnie Raygun hides the reality that today he would be primaried by a teabagger because he’s “big government RINO”.

341 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:43:07am

re: #338 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m convinced they are taking the nasty to 11 in hopes it will become too much for her and she’ll drop out.

It’s more intended to weaken her early on. Greg Abbott’s primary opponents have immolated themselves on funeral pyres of Burning Stupid, so he is starting to turn his attention the likely general election opponent. And truth is, Davis has blurred some of the facts.

342 Ian G.  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:43:45am

re: #334 Pie-onist Overlord

The Wendy Davis Derangement continues:

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I take it as a good sign. They must think she has a shot at winning.

343 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:43:53am

“The top 1 percent of American households had pretax income above $394,000 last year. The top 10 percent had income exceeding $114,000.”

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:44:10am


“She abandoned her children in order to pursue a career.” Because Jeff Davis took care of their daughters while Wendy went to law school, therefore flipping traditional gender roles in childcare, right-wing pundits are now calling her a bad mother who “apparently abandoned her children.”

My daughter put herself through Columbia, earned a Master’s degree in nursing and now has a practice in Flatbush. Her husband stays home and takes care of the kids. Does that make her a bad mother?

She really wanted to go to medical school but couldn’t afford it.

345 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:46:07am

And if I may take a moment and air one of my major gripes with the U.S. political system:

I really don’t like the fact that there’s a major election every TWO years. It basically puts each and every politician in to full time campaigning mode leaving little time and focus left for actually governing.

In the Canadian system there is no such thing as midterms, just a full election every several years and, as far as I’m aware, that’s never been a huge problem for us.

Two years is not much time to get anything done politically. Think about it, a two term President winds up having to deal with FOUR different Senates and Houses which, while similar in many regards, will present distinct advantages and disadvantages to getting things done.

Not exactly a great model for political productivity IMO.

346 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:46:08am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

flipping traditional gender roles

Let the stoning begin!

347 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:46:41am

re: #340 Dr. Matt

The right’s fetish-like obsession with Ronnie Raygun hides the reality that today he would be primaried by a teabagger because he’s “big government RINO”.

Regan is simply a projection surface onto which the GOP displays its image of the ideal politician and statesman.

348 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:47:30am

re: #347 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Regan is simply a projection surface onto which the GOP displays its image of the ideal politician and statesman.

That….and his last name isn’t “Bush” or “Nixon”.

349 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:47:49am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

Germany is worse, there is no national system of elections, it is up to the individual states and regions, there is almost always an election going on somewhere at state or regional level.

350 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:48:47am

Does it really matter though? Look at Pierre Omidyar. He’s well beyond the top-1 percent. Or George Soros. Or Bill Gates. Or ALEC member COMCAST which owns MSNBC. General Electric used to be part owner of MSNBC. EIEIO. It’s not all about money but it’s a great deal about money.

351 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:50:34am

re: #350 Gus

Does it really matter though? Look at Pierre Omidyar. He’s well beyond the top-1 percent. Or George Soros. Or Bill Gates. Or ALEC member COMCAST which owns MSNBC. General Electric used to be part owner of MSNBC. EIEIO. It’s not all about money but it’s a great deal about money.

It’s not about money it’s about HAVING ALL TEH MONEYS.

352 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:50:36am

re: #341 Dark_Falcon

It’s more intended to weaken her early on. Greg Abbott’s primary opponents have immolated themselves on funeral pyres of Burning Stupid, so he is starting to turn his attention the likely general election opponent. And truth is, Davis has blurred some of the facts.

Great story there Dark. Full of typical blurred facts by the writer to blur the Davis story.

All is fair heh? You sometimes put the Chicago in Chicago-style Politics.

/// for the second sentence.

353 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:51:34am

Jeff Bezos now owns the Washington Post. AOL bought the Huffington Post.

354 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:51:58am

MLK day promotion hits and misses on Twitter

355 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:52:36am

You cant spell BENGHAZI without BLURRED FACTZ!!!

356 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:52:42am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

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My daughter put herself through Columbia, earned a Master’s degree in nursing and now has a practice in Flatbush. Her husband stays home and takes care of the kids. Does that make her a bad mother?

She really wanted to go to medical school but couldn’t afford it.

The anti-equal pay crowd bitch all the time that women shouldn’t be paid equal to men because they don’t work as hard or put in as many hours as a man does, but yet when women do put their careers first, they get criticized as “bad mothers” because they’re more focused on their career than being home all the time for their kids.

357 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:53:16am
358 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:53:58am

re: #356 Targetpractice

My wife runs a daycare. She doesn’t earn more than I do, but she sure as hell works harder. I’ve had to fill in for her on certain days and there’s NO way I could handle that full time like she does. Bless her heart.

359 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:54:22am

Ok…so, is MSNBC shifting to the right now?

360 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:54:37am

Time owns the Daily Beast.

361 ericblair  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:55:23am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

Two years is not much time to get anything done politically. Think about it, a two term President winds up having to deal with FOUR different Senates and Houses which, while similar in many regards, will present distinct advantages and disadvantages to getting things done.

Not exactly a great model for political productivity IMO.

In a parliamentary system, you also don’t know when the election will be until it’s called, so there’s less possible lead time to stuff with campaigning.

362 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:55:48am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok…so, is MSNBC shifting to the right now?

Depends. When Joe is on, yes. :D

363 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:55:51am

re: #361 ericblair

In a parliamentary system, you also don’t know when the election will be until it’s called, so there’s less possible lead time to stuff with campaigning.

Another thing I like about it. :)

Also, at least in Canada, campaign time frames are shorter. I think by law the time between an election call and the actual vote can’t be more than about two months.

364 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:56:27am

The GIF is too big to upload, but this is f’ing awesome:

Michelle Obama Posterizes Dwyane Wade, Then Mean Mugs

365 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:56:41am

Almost everyone in congress is in the 1 percent.

366 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:57:26am

I’m hungry.

367 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:57:45am

re: #365 Gus

Almost everyone in congress is in the 1 percent.

Which is NOT what the Founders intended.

A entire Congress of one percenters is certainly NOT “of the people”

368 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:58:24am

re: #352 ObserverArt

Great story there Dark. Full of typical blurred facts by the writer to blur the Davis story.

All is fair heh? You sometimes put the Chicago in Chicago-style Politics.

/// for the second sentence.

Examples?

369 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:58:40am

re: #367 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is NOT what the Founders intended.

A entire Congress of one percenters is certainly NOT “of the people”

That’s debatable. Some would say that was what they intended but I’m not that radical. :D Also, the Founders were 1 percenters.

370 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:58:44am
371 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:00:03am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

First operational US nuclear-powered sub Nautilus (here NYC, 1956) was launched 60 years ago today.


Cool, that was one of my first models as a kid, that and the USS Skipjack.

372 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:00:22am

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!

373 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:00:42am

re: #369 Gus

But their relative wealth was substantially less as compared to the one percenters of today.

374 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:01:28am

re: #373 Eclectic Cyborg

But their relative wealth was substantially less as compared to the one percenters of today.

Oh, yes, no doubt.

375 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:03:56am

I can’t believe I actually used to post at Free Republic. Haven’t been there in years, not even to hate-read the comments.

376 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:04:29am

HURR HURR!!!1!!! DERP DERP

377 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:04:49am

re: #341 Dark_Falcon

It’s more intended to weaken her early on. Greg Abbott’s primary opponents have immolated themselves on funeral pyres of Burning Stupid, so he is starting to turn his attention the likely general election opponent. And truth is, Davis has blurred some of the facts.

Let’s see: fudged minor facts in her bio vs. thinking the state should stay the fuck out of deciding when women can get abortions.

Tough call, that one…

378 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:04:54am

re: #364 Dr. Matt

The GIF is too big to upload, but this is f’ing awesome:

Michelle Obama Posterizes Dwyane Wade, Then Mean Mugs

Awwwwwwwsome!

379 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:05:28am

re: #375 Pie-onist Overlord

I can’t believe I actually used to post at Free Republic. Haven’t been there in years, not even to hate-read the comments.

Was that during your wingnut phase?

380 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:06:17am

re: #364 Dr. Matt

The GIF is too big to upload, but this is f’ing awesome:

Michelle Obama Posterizes Dwyane Wade, Then Mean Mugs

That’s awesome, but sadly it’ll just be more red meat for stupid, racist RWNJs.

381 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:06:26am

So, is Sirota and GG really going to hinge the remainder of their “journalistic” careers on Snowden and the NSA? Sorta sad, yet amusing.

382 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:06:46am

re: #379 Eclectic Cyborg

Was that during your wingnut phase?

Yeah, I thought Free Republic was always a “The only good liberal is a dead one” kind of place.

383 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:06:55am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got to see the Croaker and Nautilus in New London CT way back when. Toured the Croaker and saw the Nautilus at distance. Being on the Croaker (a WWII boat) was like being in a sardine can, maybe worse.

384 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:07:15am

re: #379 Eclectic Cyborg

Was that during your wingnut phase?

Yeah, I used to be a wingnut. Then Obama got elected and the FReepers lost their shit and it was too much.

Then in 2010 I got a job because of Obama!

385 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:08:31am

re: #381 Dr. Matt

So, is Sirota and GG really going to hinge the remainder of their “journalistic” careers on Snowden and the NSA? Sorta sad, yet amusing.

They’ll milk that cow until its dry and eventually move on to something else…eventually.

386 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:09:04am

re: #372 Pie-onist Overlord

Every dollar wasted by teaching creationism in science classrooms is a dollar that is stolen from the education system.

387 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:09:09am

re: #382 Mattand

Yeah, I thought Free Republic was always a “The only good liberal is a dead one” kind of place.

FR and LGF used to be much closer when I joined here in 2003. Then there came The Great Flounce of 2008 and I had to decide whether I wanted to stay here, or stay at FReep.

I made my decision and never looked back.

388 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:09:41am

re: #377 Mattand

Let’s see: fudged minor facts in her bio vs. thinking the state should stay the fuck out of deciding when women can get abortions.

Tough call, that one…

Fudging dates by two years is legitimate fodder for a newspaper. When fudge facts in your bio, you’re asking for trouble.

389 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:09:52am

re: #372 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!

Every tax dollar ‘stolen’ from me is actually stolen from MY kids. I work to support MY children.

And who educates your children, and works to help keep them safe and healthy?

390 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:10:02am

re: #377 Mattand

Let’s see: fudged minor facts in her bio vs. thinking the state should stay the fuck out of deciding when women can get abortions.

Tough call, that one…

But she was not actually divorced when she was 19 but only separated, and didn’t live in a trailer for all that long…

391 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:10:35am

re: #341 Dark_Falcon

It’s more intended to weaken her early on. Greg Abbott’s primary opponents have immolated themselves on funeral pyres of Burning Stupid, so he is starting to turn his attention the likely general election opponent. And truth is, Davis has blurred some of the facts.

Please proceed, wingnuts.

Seriously, Dark. There is nothing more sexist than attacking a woman based on divorce and custody. NOTHING.

392 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:10:44am

re: #387 Pie-onist Overlord

FR and LGF used to be much closer when I joined here in 2003. Then there came The Great Flounce of 2008 and I had to decide whether I wanted to stay here, or stay at FReep.

I made my decision and never looked back.

The Great Flouncing happened in 2009.

393 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:11:31am

re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

And who educates your children, and works to help keep them safe and healthy?

I am sure the FReeper home-schools his children, to keep them away from Teh Ebil Evolutions.

394 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:12:35am

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Fudging dates by two years is legitimate fodder for a newspaper. When fudge facts in your bio, you’re asking for trouble.

Proceed some more.

395 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:13:53am

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Fudging dates by two years is legitimate fodder for a newspaper. When fudge facts in your bio, you’re asking for trouble.

True. Given some of the asswipes Texas has elected governor recently, that’s the kind of bullshit a lot of voters will focus on.

396 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:14:21am

re: #392 Dark_Falcon

The Great Flouncing happened in 2009.

It started after the election and became a swarm.

397 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:14:32am

re: #392 Dark_Falcon

The Great Flouncing happened in 2009.

VB fudged a date in her bio. I can’t vote for her now.

398 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:15:01am

re: #397 Mattand

VB fudged a date in her bio. I can’t vote for her now.

NO PIE FOR YOU!

399 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:15:46am

HURR HURR!!!1!!!

Productivity has increased but wages have stagnated.
HURR HURR NY TIMES, LIBRULS!!!!1!11

400 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:15:52am

re: #383 lawhawk

Got to see the Croaker and Nautilus in New London CT way back when. Toured the Croaker and saw the Nautilus at distance. Being on the Croaker (a WWII boat) was like being in a sardine can, maybe worse.

Here in Wisconsin we have the USS Cobia (ss-245) on display. It’s tight, true.

Then go down to Chicago and visit the U-505 a “big” type IXC boat and see what a sardine can really feels like. I can’t imagine how they did it…

401 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:16:30am

Hmm. “White up” conditions here in Center City Philly right now. Apparent snow direction is up at a 45 degree angle due to wind direction and velocity. Building more than a few blocks away hard to see from up on high (about 30 stories up).

402 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:18:03am

re: #400 William Barnett-Lewis

Here in Wisconsin we have the USS Cobia (ss-245) on display. It’s tight, true.

Then go down to Chicago and visit the U-505 a “big” type IXC boat and see what a sardine can really feels like. I can’t imagine how they did it…

Yep. The Gato and Balao class were roomy and comfortable compared to the German U-boats. And the latter didn’t have “luxuries” like A/C either and thus had massive humidity issues that the USN avoided to some degree.

403 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:18:11am

Virgin Mobile sucks.

404 Mattand  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:18:48am

re: #403 Gus

Virgin Mobile sucks.

I was looking at them for my iPhone. Anything specific?

405 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:18:56am
406 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:19:03am

re: #399 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!!

Income is the product of valued productivity. Increase your productivity!

Income is the amount that a multi-billion-dollar, international company can negotiate with an individual with limited means and a family to support.

Who is gonna get the better end of those negotiations?

407 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:19:45am

re: #360 Gus

“Time owns the Daily Beast.”

— Charles Bukowsky

408 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:21:29am

Hey FReep you left out “Wealthy Privileged Family Connections”

409 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:21:50am

re: #405 Pie-onist Overlord

“Lol”
— Button Gwinnett

410 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:21:54am

Good news for people who like to eat:


In the US, margarine consumption is at a 70 year low. Since 2000, sales are down by more than 30%.
411 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:26:37am

re: #404 Mattand

I was looking at them for my iPhone. Anything specific?

A) Super slow.
B) Practically stops working after 10 AM. Every. Single. Day.

412 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:26:37am

re: #341 Dark_Falcon

Dark, it doesn’t matter what was blurred and what wasn’t. The Texas GOP would be saying these things about Wendy Davis anyway, election year or not. She pissed them off with her filibuster. She’s going to be a target for the assholes no matter what.

413 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:27:16am

re: #410 wrenchwench

Good news for people who like to eat:

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Margarine is disgusting.

414 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:27:49am

I haven’t updated The Vicious Babushka blog in like 4 weeks. I need to bake a new pie or something.

Oh I know.

I want to start a cookbook project converting recipes from my collection of antique cookbooks for modern kitchen equipment.

415 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:27:55am

re: #400 William Barnett-Lewis

The USS Ling is berthed in Hackensack as a museum. Haven’t gone to visit, but I’ve passed by there regularly.

Interesting sidenote - the ling is a fish also known as the cobia.

Guess someone decided not a good idea to name the boat the USS Prodigal Son.

416 Gus  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:28:19am

Could be OK in New Jersey though. I am still in Cowtown, I mean Denver.

417 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:28:41am

re: #413 Stanley Sea

Margarine is disgusting.

I use it for baking when I don’t want a cake, pie or bread to contain any dairy ingredients.

418 The War TARDIS  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:29:29am

re: #137 wheat-dogghazi

The problem is, I want to marry a another Muslim.

And my current work hours preclude any outside the work activity, not to mention that where I work, they change the bosses and schedules of everyone every 3 months.

Right now, leaning towards the option of my friend who wants to use a matchmaker in Pakistan to find someone. I haven’t known many female Muslim Converts, but my experiences back when I was a Christian in Colorado Springs with Christian Girls who converted from Mainstream Christianity to Born-Again Christianity was that they tended to by unsupportive of me to a massive degree, and so wrapped up in the intricacies of the little things that they tended to be the least fun people ever. As someone who notices patterns, that gives me pause before even thinking about Converts.

419 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:30:49am

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Fudging dates by two years is legitimate fodder for a newspaper. When fudge facts in your bio, you’re asking for trouble.

I seem to recall Mitt Romney fudging a fact or two. *cough* Bain Capital *cough*

420 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:31:17am

re: #414 Pie-onist Overlord

I haven’t updated The Vicious Babushka blog in like 4 weeks. I need to bake a new pie or something.

Oh I know.

I want to start a cookbook project converting recipes from my collection of antique cookbooks for modern kitchen equipment.

Perhaps it’s time for a new edition of the LGF cookbook?

421 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:31:17am

re: #418 The War TARDIS

The problem is, I want to marry a another Muslim.

And my current work hours preclude any outside the work activity, not to mention that where I work, they change the bosses and schedules of everyone every 3 months.

Right now, leaning towards the option of my friend who wants to use a matchmaker in Pakistan to find someone. I haven’t known many female Muslim Converts, but my experiences back when I was a Christian in Colorado Springs with Christian Girls who converted from Mainstream Christianity to Born-Again Christianity was that they tended to by unsupportive of me to a massive degree, and so wrapped up in the intricacies of the little things that they tended to be the least fun people ever. As someone who notices patterns, that gives me pause before even thinking about Converts.

Don’t you have matchmakers like Teh Juice?

422 blueraven  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:31:39am

re: #411 Gus

A) Super slow.
B) Practically stops working after 10 AM. Every. Single. Day.

That is when the stoners wake up and light up. Thick cloud of smoke blocks your signal!

///

423 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:31:49am

re: #418 The War TARDIS

The problem is, I want to marry a another Muslim.

And my current work hours preclude any outside the work activity, not to mention that where I work, they change the bosses and schedules of everyone every 3 months.

Right now, leaning towards the option of my friend who wants to use a matchmaker in Pakistan to find someone. I haven’t known many female Muslim Converts, but my experiences back when I was a Christian in Colorado Springs with Christian Girls who converted from Mainstream Christianity to Born-Again Christianity was that they tended to by unsupportive of me to a massive degree, and so wrapped up in the intricacies of the little things that they tended to be the least fun people ever. As someone who notices patterns, that gives me pause before even thinking about Converts.

Don’t rush! I didn’t meet my wife until I’d pretty much given up looking.

424 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:32:19am

re: #413 Stanley Sea

Margarine is disgusting.

I was raised on margarine. When I have no choice, I’ll take it, but for spreading on rolls or baking, nothing beats real butter.

425 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:32:29am

re: #411 Gus

A) Super slow.
B) Practically stops working after 10 AM. Every. Single. Day.

and
C) coverage is total crap. You can move five feet and lose any signal you may have had.

426 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:32:29am
427 The War TARDIS  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:32:59am

re: #421 Pie-onist Overlord

Not in the US.

We don’t even have a a mechanism to meet people in that regard in the US.

There’s a reason why the article I linked to before I went to bed described a Muslim Marriage Crisis.

428 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:33:21am

re: #415 lawhawk

The USS Ling is berthed in Hackensack as a museum. Haven’t gone to visit, but I’ve passed by there regularly.

Interesting sidenote - the ling is a fish also known as the cobia.

Guess someone decided not a good idea to name the boat the USS Prodigal Son.

They started running low on fish names to use as the building program went on.

429 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:34:10am

A French acquaintance said that in France, they put butter on cheese, as well as on everything else.

430 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:34:18am

re: #414 Pie-onist Overlord

The Mrs had to scan some pictures for a friend’s scrapbook she’s putting together. That got me thinking about digitizing photos that are in albums but not online/digital. So, I finished going and digitizing my wedding photos off the proofs.

The newish printer/scanner seems to be up to the task. HP 8600 plus has a auto-document feeder that let me scan up to 50 at a clip. Still have to go back and do some minor cropping per photo, but it’s better than nothing at all. Scanned something like 400+ photos last night in just about 3 hours with a good part of the time taken by pulling photos out of albums and putting them back in. If I come across good ones, I might post.

I just digitized my Grand Canyon/Zion trip. Lots more to come. I had selectively scanned a few years back, but the quality is so much better now.

431 ericblair  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:35:35am

re: #417 Pie-onist Overlord

I use it for baking when I don’t want a cake, pie or bread to contain any dairy ingredients.

Yeah, I’ve had some pretty good marg at Kosher restaurants. It doesn’t have to suck.

432 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:35:59am

re: #426 Pie-onist Overlord

Does he understand that calling her “abortion barbie” makes him look like a total douche? Is he trying to come up with an RW answer for “caribou barbie” or something?

433 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:36:09am

re: #426 Pie-onist Overlord

Erickson’s really scraping the bottom.

RedState’s Erick Erickson Smears Wendy Davis with Bogus ‘Restraining Order’ Story

Tommy Christopher: “…even a newspaper airing the sexist grievances of an ex-spouse has standards, and would not make the sick suggestion that Wendy Davis was somehow unfit to be around her children based on a Temporary Restraining Order that’s actually an automatic feature of most divorces involving children.”

“In Texas, our Family Code provides standard language for restraining orders that can be requested and served on parties at the beginning of a divorce. To a layperson, the language may seem harsh and even accusatory. Parties who get served with a restraining order often read a lot of details into it and make a lot of assumptions. In the court system, however, little significance is attached to it.

A very common procedure is for a party to file for a divorce and request a temporary restraining order (TRO) and an order setting hearing. In some counties in Texas, there’s an automatic order that goes into effect immediately against both parties (it’s made “mutual”), to preserve the status quo. In Tarrant County, we don’t have that immediate “standing order”, but judges routinely grant TROs and then make them mutual at the first hearing date. In other words, the TRO is effective against the party who gets served with it, beginning with the time of service, and then the same language is normally applied against both parties when the judge starts making temporary orders.”

434 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:36:19am

re: #429 wrenchwench

A French acquaintance said that in France, they put butter on cheese, as well as on everything else.

Suddenly I am craving croissants…

435 The War TARDIS  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:37:24am

The article I mentioned.

The Muslim Marriage Crisis

436 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:37:26am

re: #415 lawhawk

The USS Ling is berthed in Hackensack as a museum. Haven’t gone to visit, but I’ve passed by there regularly.

Interesting sidenote - the ling is a fish also known as the cobia.

Guess someone decided not a good idea to name the boat the USS Prodigal Son.

And it’s quite a delicious fish! Best if smoked, FYI.

437 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:38:01am

re: #426 Pie-onist Overlord

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The court was sexist then, so to use it against her now is still sexist, yes. He’s such a moron, but he knows his audience.

438 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:38:25am

re: #432 Eclectic Cyborg

Does he understand that calling her “abortion barbie” makes him look like a total douche? Is he trying to come up with an RW answer for “caribou barbie” or something?

That would be the general idea. Once you start labeling women you don’t agree with as “Barbie” to tack on a little extra dig, you make the parlance fair game.

Ex-half-governor Moosehead is deserving of a lot of scorn, but ‘Caribou Barbie’ is pushing it.

439 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:38:33am

re: #417 Pie-onist Overlord

I use it for baking when I don’t want a cake, pie or bread to contain any dairy ingredients.

That reminds me, I was cooking something the other day and wondered if shortening was kosher or not. It certainly is helpful as an alternative to lard. Didn’t see an obvious mark on the Crisco can but that’ only one brand.

440 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:38:41am

I have a cookbook from the 1800’s that in addition to food recipes, also includes recipes for making “home remedies” from medicinal ingredients that everybody would just happen to have around the house, like “opium” and “laudanum” and “cocaine.”

441 ericblair  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:38:44am

re: #436 Dr. Matt

And it’s quite a delicious fish! Best if smoked, FYI.

Be careful about asking other people to smoke your ling, cuz you might get slapped.

442 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:38:46am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

Suddenly I am craving croissants…

Which are things made out of butter for the purpose of putting more butter on.

443 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:39:05am
444 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:39:44am

re: #414 Pie-onist Overlord

I haven’t updated The Vicious Babushka blog in like 4 weeks. I need to bake a new pie or something.

Oh I know.

I want to start a cookbook project converting recipes from my collection of antique cookbooks for modern kitchen equipment.

You could put up a post talking about your planned project with a sample conversion. That would be a good place to start.

445 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:39:57am

re: #442 wrenchwench

Which are things made out of butter for the purpose of putting more butter on.

EXACTLY! It’s perfection!

Seriously though, the perfect lunch for me is a hot, freshly made ham and cheese crossiant.

Yes, I know, I’m a simple man.

446 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:40:05am

re: #423 makeitstop

Don’t rush! I didn’t meet my wife until I’d pretty much given up looking.

This! I was 30 before I met my wife - in a bar after midnight but hey, we just had our 18th anny on New Year’s Eve.

447 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:40:17am

re: #439 William Barnett-Lewis

That reminds me, I was cooking something the other day and wondered if shortening was kosher or not. It certainly is helpful as an alternative to lard. Didn’t see an obvious mark on the Crisco can but that’ only one brand.

Crisco shortening is kosher, most store brands are too.

I only use the Crisco “baking bars” which I keep in the freezer.

448 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:41:30am

re: #435 The War TARDIS

The article I mentioned.

The Muslim Marriage Crisis

Doesn’t sound so bad for your side.

At any Muslim marriage event, there are more females attendees than males. The ISNA marriage banquet sold out for the women’s section weeks in advance, while men strolled in at the last minute. Al Rahmah Marriage Bureau in Baltimore has two women for every man in its database. At a local marriage brunch, many of the women attending were born and raised in the US, educated and articulate, while most of the men were first generation immigrants, without large local networks.

Weddings are a great place to meet. Don’t dread the announcements when friends are getting married. Offer to help with the guest list. Or at least to review it for spelling errors or something.

449 jaunte  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:42:05am

Women Running for Governor: Three Things to Watch For in 2014 Races

To distract from what really matters — the policies, priorities, and platforms of each candidate — male opponents often strike early with attacks questioning a woman’s integrity. It’s a well-worn strategy.

We saw this happen in Senator Elizabeth Warren’s race against then-Senator Scott Brown in 2012, when he repeatedly questioned her integrity, and we’re already seeing it in State Senator Wendy Davis’s race against Attorney General Greg Abbott in Texas. Watch for more of this tactic in play as the races progress, particularly in man versus woman candidate races.

450 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:43:38am

re: #446 William Barnett-Lewis

This! I was 30 before I met my wife - in a bar after midnight but hey, we just had our 18th anny on New Year’s Eve.

Thirded. Frustrated with relationships and dating in general, I’d blown off looking for women altogether and then about two months later, I met my wife in a place I wouldn’t really have expected to meet anyone.

Funny where life takes you.

451 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:43:51am

re: #447 Pie-onist Overlord

Crisco shortening is kosher, most store brands are too.

I only use the Crisco “baking bars” which I keep in the freezer.

Thanks! That’s into to the “good to know just in case” file :)

452 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:44:09am

And again.

453 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:45:46am

re: #451 William Barnett-Lewis

Thanks! That’s into to the “good to know just in case” file :)

The Crisco shortening in huge tubs is disgusting, unless you make a lot of fried chicken.

454 The War TARDIS  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:45:49am

re: #448 wrenchwench

I’ve been invited to exactly one thus far.

Couldn’t go because I was in Colorado at the time, and my parents balked at the flight cost and the cost to get a suit. I was unemployed too then.

So, that is out of the question. And you would think it was easier, but nope. I’ve been told by others that I will have to “settle” for someone as a result of the combo of being Autistic and a Convert.

It’s easy if you are born into the community. Not so much if you converted into it.

455 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:46:44am

Finally got to you, eh Dark?

Rating: -1
Total: 1
Plus: 0

Minus: 1
Dark_Falcon

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456 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:48:16am

re: #433 jaunte

Erickson’s really scraping the bottom.

RedState’s Erick Erickson Smears Wendy Davis with Bogus ‘Restraining Order’ Story

Tommy Christopher: “…even a newspaper airing the sexist grievances of an ex-spouse has standards, and would not make the sick suggestion that Wendy Davis was somehow unfit to be around her children based on a Temporary Restraining Order that’s actually >an automatic feature of most divorces involving children.”

I don’t agree with Christopher’s characterization of the Dallas Morning News piece, but he is right about why the newspaper didn’t mention any restraining orders: the kinds of orders mentioned are indeed routine in Texas and the one in Davis’ case was unremarkable.

There’s a case to be made about Wendy Davis fudging bio facts, but that case is already being taken far further than it should by a wingnut hatefest.

457 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:48:17am

re: #452 lawhawk

And again.

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458 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:48:21am

re: #449 jaunte

Women Running for Governor: Three Things to Watch For in 2014 Races

Yep. This is just an inevitable part of the misogyny playbook.

Right now the GOP candidates are busy tearing each other apart since they’re having a primary. They need a distraction for the rubes, so going after Wendy Davis it is.

459 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:48:38am

re: #455 wrenchwench

Finally got to you, eh Dark?

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Croissants are so…French. l love ‘em!

460 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:49:17am

re: #458 Lidane

Yep. This is just an inevitable part of the misogyny playbook.

Right now the GOP candidates are busy tearing each other apart since they’re having a primary. They need a distraction for the rubes, so going after Wendy Davis it is.

And the topic of all of it? Davis is a “bad mother” because she was furthering her education rather than staying home and in the kitchen.

461 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:50:01am

re: #455 wrenchwench

Finally got to you, eh Dark?

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Slight error, now corrected.

462 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:51:50am

re: #454 The War TARDIS

I’ve been invited to exactly one thus far.

Couldn’t go because I was in Colorado at the time, and my parents balked at the flight cost and the cost to get a suit. I was unemployed too then.

So, that is out of the question. And you would think it was easier, but nope. I’ve been told by others that I will have to “settle” for someone as a result of the combo of being Autistic and a Convert.

It’s easy if you are born into the community. Not so much if you converted into it.

It was out of the question in the past, not the future. Don’t listen to people who think you will have to ‘settle’. Just concentrate on being the best you that you can. Be extra nice to someone different every day, just to make it a habit. Someone will observe you being nice, and be impressed. Stand up straight. Smile more often.

OK, I’m pulling out the heavy artillery now. Read this. What you read in there only sounds cliche now because for 60 years, every motivational speaker and writer has been ripping him off.

463 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:53:21am

re: #460 Targetpractice

And the topic of all of it? Davis is a “bad mother” because she was furthering her education rather than staying home and in the kitchen.

Davis furthered her education rather than stay home with the kids. Their father got custody in the divorce because he could offer a more stable home life since she was busy with school and getting herself established. She was fine with that and even willingly paid child support and kept to the terms of the custody arrangement. So naturally, that makes her a bad mother.

HOWEVER, if she’d just stayed a single mom and had never gone to college and never done anything except wait tables, she’d be a moocher leeching off the system that doesn’t understand the value of education and hard work.

The GOP, as usual, are completely fucked up when it comes to women.

464 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:53:36am

re: #457 Targetpractice

It’s too early to talk guns re: Purdue, but I can talk about Virginia Tech all I want. /half

465 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:55:37am

Breaking: Shooting at Purdue University….

Nevermind…..ya’ll beat me to it,….

466 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:56:05am

re: #463 Lidane

Davis furthered her education rather than stay home with the kids. Their father got custody in the divorce because he could offer a more stable home life since she was busy with school and getting herself established. She was fine with that and even willingly paid child support and kept to the terms of the custody arrangement. So naturally, that makes her a bad mother.

HOWEVER, if she’d just stayed a single mom and had never gone to college and never done anything except wait tables, she’d be a moocher leeching off the system that doesn’t understand the value of education and hard work.

The GOP, as usual, are completely fucked up when it comes to women.

What they won’t say aloud is that she was wrong (in their minds) for seeking an education in the first place, that once kids are in the household, a woman is supposed to abandon all ideas of seeking out education or employment and devotes themselves entirely to those kids. That a “good mother” would have made the marriage work “for the children,” giving up foolish ideas of making something of herself.

467 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:57:05am

From yahoo: news.yahoo.com
Purdue University Shooting

468 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:58:41am

re: #466 Targetpractice

What they won’t say aloud is that she was wrong (in their minds) for seeking an education in the first place, that once kids are in the household, a woman is supposed to abandon all ideas of seeking out education or employment and devotes themselves entirely to those kids. That a “good mother” would have made the marriage work “for the children,” giving up foolish ideas of making something of herself.

Some of them will proceed that far, because they have no awareness of how they sound to women.

469 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:00:04am

re: #466 Targetpractice

What they won’t say aloud is that she was wrong (in their minds) for seeking an education in the first place, that once kids are in the household, a woman is supposed to abandon all ideas of seeking out education or employment and devotes themselves entirely to those kids. That a “good mother” would have made the marriage work “for the children,” giving up foolish ideas of making something of herself.

Pretty much, yeah. That’s why I say they’re a fucked up party when it comes to women.

Just the fact that she went to college at all is a sticking point for many of them, especially since she didn’t even get that idea until after she was a mother. Heaven forbid a woman want an education to be able to better provide for herself and her kids. She should just stay home and pump out babies and let the big strong man take care of everything.

Of course, they’d also get pissed at her if something happened to that guy and she ended up poor and homeless and without any education or means to support her family. She couldn’t win no matter what.

470 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:01:34am

re: #469 Lidane

Pretty much, yeah. That’s why I say they’re a fucked up party when it comes to women.

Just the fact that she went to college at all is a sticking point for many of them, especially since she didn’t even get that idea until after she was a mother. Heaven forbid a woman want an education to be able to better provide for herself and her kids. She should just stay home and pump out babies and let the big strong man take care of everything.

Of course, they’d also get pissed at her if something happened to that guy and she ended up poor and homeless and without any education or means to support her family. She couldn’t win no matter what.

You make that last paragraph sound like a liability in their approach.
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471 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:02:09am

re: #466 Targetpractice

What they won’t say aloud is that she was wrong (in their minds) for seeking an education in the first place, that once kids are in the household, a woman is supposed to abandon all ideas of seeking out education or employment and devotes themselves entirely to those kids. That a “good mother” would have made the marriage work “for the children,” giving up foolish ideas of making something of herself.

That’s so wrong. I finished up my degree after I already had 6 kids. My daughter did the same thing, except that she got a Master’s degree.

472 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:02:48am

re: #470 Feline Fearless Leader

You make that last paragraph sound like a liability in their approach.
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It sounds perfectly reasonable to real men. After all, they’re the only ones that matter.

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473 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:05:52am

re: #472 Lidane

It sounds perfectly reasonable to real men. After all, they’re the only ones that matter.

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Horrible viewpoint for a society. Just waste half of your brainpower and creativity right out of the gate.

474 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:06:52am

FReep is at it again. They keep spamming this shit all day long.

475 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:07:02am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

So their support for Communist insurgencies is Latin America was what, exactly? Because it sure as hell was a lot more than lip service.

I suspect that had more to do with hoping America would get its prick caught in the wringer than any hope of ‘expanding Communism’. Also it’s good strategy to keep your opponent’s attention divided, as we did to them.

That sort of minor shit is hardly comparable to an attack through Fulda Gap.

476 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:08:00am

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

Gah, when I went to bed last night I immediately realized I screwed up the dimensions of that tube I crawled though. It was 1.5 x 2 feet in diameter which is 46 x 61 CM, not 200 x 150 CM (because that would be pretty damn big and easy). I am so ashamed to have screwed up a simple conversion in my head. Dumb, dumb, dumb!

/simple maths is hard, dammit.

477 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:08:33am

re: #473 Feline Fearless Leader

Horrible viewpoint for a society. Just waste half of your brainpower and creativity right out of the gate.

Social conservatism in a nutshell. Women don’t matter except as baby machines, and that’s only if they’re married and stay home and let The Man provide. Getting an education or a job or some way to support yourself independently is something only Teh Ebil Feminazis would encourage.

478 erik_t  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:09:20am

Of all the mystifying shit that has cropped up on the right wing, and a LOT of mystifying shit has cropped up on the right wing, NOTHING compares to the enthusiastic embrace of the fucking ex-KGB fucking President of fucking Russia.

It just blows my mind. I have to keep reminding myself it’s actually real, not some sort of crazed fever dream.

479 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:10:00am

re: #474 Pie-onist Overlord

FReep is at it again. They keep spamming this shit all day long.

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Obama is the smart man because he wears a helmet. Concussions are not fun.

480 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:10:04am

re: #475 Romantic Heretic

I suspect that had more to do with hoping America would get its prick caught in the wringer than any hope of ‘expanding Communism’. Also it’s good strategy to keep your opponent’s attention divided, as we did to them.

That sort of minor shit is hardly comparable to an attack through Fulda Gap.

The more time & money wasted on the Contras & Iranians, the less we can do in Europe. The Sandinistas weren’t perfect but they have a democratic legacy better than the Samosas left behind them.

481 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:10:57am

re: #477 Lidane

Social conservatism in a nutshell. Women don’t matter except as baby machines, and that’s only if they’re married and stay home and let The Man provide. Getting an education or a job or some way to support yourself independently is something only Teh Ebil Feminazis would encourage.

Oh, some are okay with women in the workplace, but only in jobs where they don’t compete with men, don’t expect to get paid the same as men, and in general do not make men feel inadequate. Basically they look at Mad Men and think “That’s the way things should be!”

482 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:12:24am

re: #478 erik_t

Of all the mystifying shit that has cropped up on the right wing, and a LOT of mystifying shit has cropped up on the right wing, NOTHING compares to the enthusiastic embrace of the fucking ex-KGB fucking President of fucking Russia.

It just blows my mind. I have to keep reminding myself it’s actually real, not some sort of crazed fever dream.

It’s the RWNJ’s love of an authoritarian leader - RWNJ’s yearn to be dominated - combined with a thinly-veiled homoeroticism (at least for the male contingent of the RWNJ’s) that goes back to my point about yearning to be dominated.

483 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:12:30am

re: #474 Pie-onist Overlord

FReep is at it again. They keep spamming this shit all day long.

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Funny, the last guy in office also rode bikes while wearing helmets, but I can’t remember them looking at him and accusing him of being a girly-man.

484 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:12:57am

re: #479 Dark_Falcon

Obama is the smart man because he wears a helmet. Concussions are not fun.

Also, when you ride a horse, the horse does the work. When you ride a bike, you’re hauling your own weight around under your own power.

485 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:14:32am

re: #469 Lidane

Pretty much, yeah. That’s why I say they’re a fucked up party when it comes to women.

Just the fact that she went to college at all is a sticking point for many of them, especially since she didn’t even get that idea until after she was a mother. Heaven forbid a woman want an education to be able to better provide for herself and her kids. She should just stay home and pump out babies and let the big strong man take care of everything.

Of course, they’d also get pissed at her if something happened to that guy and she ended up poor and homeless and without any education or means to support her family. She couldn’t win no matter what.

Add in some more circular logic to the whole thing.

They call her abortion Barbie, they get on her for “abandoning” her kids, yet she didn’t get any abortions, had the kids and then did what she and her ex had to do to make a go of it. And again, they call her abortion Barbie because she is standing up for other women.

The circle, it just goes around and around.

486 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:14:59am

re: #483 Targetpractice

Funny, the last guy in office also rode bikes while wearing helmets, but I can’t remember them looking at him and accusing him of being a girly-man.

RWNJs don’t talk about that guy. He wasn’t a real conservative. Putin is.

487 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:15:25am

re: #480 William Barnett-Lewis

The more time & money wasted on the Contras & Iranians, the less we can do in Europe. The Sandinistas weren’t perfect but they have a democratic legacy better than the Samosas left behind them.

We did plenty enough in Nicaragua, and the Improved TOW missiles and M113 parts we sold Iran cost less than the Iraqi T-72s Iranian I-TOW-armed M113s destroyed. We came out money and resources ahead on that exchange.

Of course, as you’ve pointed out, we were helped by the T-72’s bad ammunition storage system as well as the weak armor of the T-72M. The latter prompted the Soviets to supply Iraq with the T-72M1, which had forward armor able to survive frontal hits by I-TOW. But by 1991, the US had moved on to TOW-2, against which the T-72M1’s armor came up short.

488 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:16:42am

re: #486 Lidane

RWNJs don’t talk about that guy. He wasn’t a real conservative. Putin is.

Yep, it’s why they like to venerate Ronaldus Magnus, the movie star who rode horses in front of cameras, and not Ronald Reagan, the guy who raised taxes 11 times and grew the government to a size that would make a wingnut’s head explode.

489 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:17:56am

re: #484 wrenchwench

Also, when you ride a horse, the horse does the work. When you ride a bike, you’re hauling your own weight around under your own power.

Either way, a helmet is a smart idea. Of course, said wingnuts would just love for Barack Obama to get a concussion so they could say it had “rendered him unfit to lead”.

490 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:18:15am
491 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:18:40am

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

One of my grad school friends is from Nicaragua. She’s not exactly complimentary of all the “plenty enough” we did over there.

492 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:18:42am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

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No doubt the EPA’s at fault…somehow…

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493 Kragar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:18:51am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

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This is why we can’t have nice things.

494 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:19:43am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

And in Philly too no less. :(

495 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:20:10am

re: #383 lawhawk

Got to see the Croaker and Nautilus in New London CT way back when. Toured the Croaker and saw the Nautilus at distance. Being on the Croaker (a WWII boat) was like being in a sardine can, maybe worse.

You should try the inside of a Type VII U-Boat.

496 Kragar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:21:33am

re: #495 Romantic Heretic

You should try the inside of a Type VII U-Boat.

My grand uncle was a submariner in the Pacific during WWII.

497 blueraven  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:21:53am

re: #479 Dark_Falcon

Obama is the smart man because he wears a helmet. Concussions are not fun.

Obama also has two daughters. Parents are role models. Who knew?

498 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:22:25am

re: #495 Romantic Heretic

You should try the inside of a Type VII U-Boat.

Indeed. The Type IX was luxery liner compared to the Type VII. However, many German submariners actually preferred the Type VII due to its faster dive time. Fast diving was critical to escaping air attacks.

499 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:23:08am

re: #489 Dark_Falcon

Either way, a helmet is a smart idea. Of course, said wingnuts would just love for Barack Obama to get a concussion so they could say it had “rendered him unfit to lead”.

Jeez Dark, they say he is unfit for office now, Where you been?

500 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:23:45am
501 Kragar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:24:55am
502 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:26:20am

re: #495 Romantic Heretic

You should try the inside of a Type VII U-Boat.

I don’t think there are any Type VII’s for touring. The U-505 is a IXC and that’s bigger than the VII series, though drastically smaller than the US fleet boats.

503 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:27:08am

re: #481 Targetpractice

Oh, some are okay with women in the workplace, but only in jobs where they don’t compete with men, don’t expect to get paid the same as men, and in general do not make men feel inadequate. Basically they look at Mad Men and think “That’s the way things should be!”

Those women are office decor that bring you coffee and are delighted to do your personal shopping/errands during lunch hour…

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504 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:27:30am

re: #474 Pie-onist Overlord

FReep is at it again. They keep spamming this shit all day long.

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See, it’s funny because in (American) biker communities, there are a lot of “big tough manly man” types that like to make fun of the riders that wear proper armor, while they go around wearing nothing but vests and jeans and a halfshell, if even that.

And they make fun right up until they’re sliding along the asphalt at 50+ MPH, and it goes from ‘manly’ to ‘excruciatingly painful’.


re: #464 lawhawk

It’s too early to talk guns re: Purdue, but I can talk about Virginia Tech all I want. /half

There’s really nothing to talk about RE: gunz at this point. Guns don’t cause violence, but they do make violence on a mass scale trivial to perpetrate. People do with that fact what they will.

505 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:28:39am


Beck threatening to renounce his American citizenship, Hannity threatening to leave New York… this is hilarious.

506 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:29:32am

re: #505 Lidane

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Beck threatening to renounce his American citizenship, Hannity threatening to leave New York… this is hilarious.

Threat or promise?

507 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:29:33am

re: #500 Lidane

Glenn Beck and his buddy Pastor Hagee.

Of “God sent Hitler to get the Jews back to Israel” and “If you don’t like ‘Christian’ primacy in the US, you should leave”

508 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:30:02am

re: #505 Lidane

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Beck threatening to renounce his American citizenship, Hannity threatening to leave New York… this is hilarious.

Still waiting on that “Dead or In Jail” guy.

Republicans have this curious habit of saying a lot of crap that they never actually do when push comes to shove.

509 Kragar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:30:44am

re: #505 Lidane

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Beck threatening to renounce his American citizenship, Hannity threatening to leave New York… this is hilarious.

Quomo should offer a police escort to Hannity so he can get out faster.

510 Lidane  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:31:02am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

Threat or promise?

Just threats for now. None of them have the balls to actually follow through.

511 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:31:29am

arrrrrrrrggggggggg……

512 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:31:44am

re: #505 Lidane

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Beck threatening to renounce his American citizenship, Hannity threatening to leave New York… this is hilarious.

Do it…Do it…Do it!

513 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:32:01am

re: #499 ObserverArt

Jeez Dark, they say he is unfit for office now, Where you been?

Of course they do, but they’d enjoy a new angle of attack as well as the chance to “use Obama’s attack on pro-football against him”.

514 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:32:16am

re: #501 Kragar

You really have to hand it to these guys. They have made parody completely futile. They all sound like a cross between Eric Cartman and Grampa Simpson.

515 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:35:19am

re: #510 Lidane

Just threats for now. None of them have the balls to actually follow through.

Limbaugh left New York.

516 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:36:32am

re: #505 Lidane

Wonkette has diagnosed the problem as butthurt.

Mind you, that if Hannity does leave, he’s going to probably sell his place at a considerable profit because the liberal bastion of NYC has real estate prices that are obscene and if you’ve bought property years back, you can make a very sizeable profit. Hannity should thank Cuomo for the opportunity to sell into a strong market.

That is, if he ever does actually move.

Hannity, like other bloviation experts, talk much, but act very little. He gets paid either way.

517 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:36:44am

re: #467 PhillyPretzel

From yahoo: news.yahoo.com
Purdue University Shooting

Another human sacrifice for the religion known as America.

518 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:37:08am

re: #505 Lidane

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Beck threatening to renounce his American citizenship, Hannity threatening to leave New York… this is hilarious.

Byyyeeee! Don’t let the door, etc.

519 Bear  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:37:52am

re: #515 wrenchwench

Did he not also leave California?

520 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:39:11am

re: #500 Lidane

Is it just me or is GB aging quickly?

521 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:39:23am

re: #494 PhillyPretzel

And in Philly too no less. :(

I drove by that on I-76 yesterday. Two derailed cars right there on the bridge with a crane working on them. Would have loved to snap a picture, but traffic n’at were involved.

522 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:39:24am

re: #519 Bear

Did he not also leave California?

Don’t know, wasn’t paying attention for most of his career. I wonder when he’ll feel he has to leave Florida? And then where will he go?

523 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:39:52am

re: #511 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow…Good luck with that, Kentucky.

524 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:40:55am

Got this on the next thread, but it belongs here.

Frank says:

The first hyphen in MAH-JUH-REEN could be used for erotic gratification by a very desparate stenographer. — Sydney australia, 1974, second night. on Mystery box III

525 darthstar  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 11:03:02am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t see anyone with a red cape flying in to pick that up. WTF?

526 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 11:04:47am

re: #376 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!! DERP DERP
Will the Obama administration take action against NSA/Pentagon officials promoting idea of killing Edward Snowden?

All servicemembers E5 and above named “Anonymous” have been placed on shit-burning detail.

527 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 21, 2014 11:35:12am

re: #512 ObserverArt

Do it…Do it…Do it!

Yeah, well, as long as they don’t think about setting up shop in the Czech Republic.


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