Glenn Beck Attacks Bill Nye for Opposing the Teaching of Creationism to Kids

If you don’t support keeping children ignorant, you’re just like the people who imprisoned Galileo
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Glenn Beck continues his headlong plunge into religious right extremism, attacking Bill Nye for his statement opposing the teaching of creationism to kids. And yes, he actually compared Bill Nye’s promotion of sound science to the Roman Catholic Inquisition against Galileo.

You can’t force things onto people. And that’s what I mean when I say Governor Cuomo is going to be on the wrong side of history. Because he’s among the increasing number of voices who want to segregate an entire group of people. He wants to eradicate a certain kind of thought. And that doesn’t work. And unfortunately his children or grandchildren will figure that one out, far too late, after his death most likely, that he was on the wrong side.

And you know what, he’s not alone though, I mean those people who are forcing Common Core into schools, I mean, think of Arnie Duncan in 30 years when his grandchildren say, “Did you really say, that the only people who were against Common Core were white suburban moms? Really?”

Or Bill Nye the Science Guy, who said teaching creationism is just dangerous and not appropriate for children!

BILL NYE: And I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it because we need them.

How’s he going to look? Is he going to look like the people who threw Galileo up?

How people like Beck can say this batshit insane stuff with a straight face is beyond me. There’s something deeply wrong with this man.

Via Right Wing Watch.

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47 comments
1 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:32:31pm
2 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:35:38pm
3 b.d.  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:35:40pm

Grifters gotta grift.

4 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:36:02pm

These wingnut loons really do seem to compete with each other to see who can come up with the most ludicrous totally backward analogy to hype their fucked up ideology.

5 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:37:54pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

These wingnut loons really do seem to compete with each other to see who can come up with the most ludicrous totally backward analogy to hype their fucked up ideology.

Its like they know all the names and dates but have no fucking clue as to how or why they’re important.

6 AlexRogan  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:40:39pm

re: #1 Kragar

Image: 191.gif

My fellow nerds and geeks may want to string me up from the nearest tree for saying this, but I like Nathan Fillion much more in Castle than in Firefly.

7 freetoken  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:41:08pm

re: #5 Kragar

Its like they know all the names and dates but have no fucking clue as to how or why they’re important.

Because to them words are magick, and they just have to repeat them in some special order for the magick to work.

8 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:41:46pm

re: #6 AlexRogan

My fellow nerds and geeks may want to string me up from the nearest tree for saying this, but I like Nathan Fillion much more in Castle than in Firefly.

You are dead to me.

9 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:41:47pm

Glenn Greenwald: *silence*

10 AlexRogan  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:43:22pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

These wingnut loons really do seem to compete with each other to see who can come up with the most ludicrous totally backward analogy to hype their fucked up ideology.

re: #5 Kragar

Its like they know all the names and dates but have no fucking clue as to how or why they’re important.

D-Day: [to Bluto] Let it go. War’s over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.

Bluto: What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Otter: [to Boon] Germans?

Boon: Forget it, he’s rolling.

11 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:43:42pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn Greenwald: *silence*

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I’m sure Sirota has been on the case expressing his outrage.

*crickets*

12 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:44:19pm

I’ve been in character encoding hell all day, trying to figure out how to tweak the PHP mysql library to better handle UTF-8 characters. We’re pretty good now but Russian/Cyrillic characters still cause problems in some cases, and it’s fiendishly difficult to debug between the various APIs and database connections and PHP’s own encoding and the mmm and the glavin!

13 freetoken  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:44:46pm

After all these years of dealing with creationists, I’ve concluded that the most important thing is not that they are wrong (which they are), but rather that they are desperate to continue to live in a fantasy world.

14 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:45:46pm

re: #10 AlexRogan

Ron Burgundy: Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale’s vagina.

Veronica Corningstone: No, there’s no way that’s correct.

Ron Burgundy: I’m sorry, I was trying to impress you. I don’t know what it means. I’ll be honest, I don’t think anyone knows what it means anymore. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost hundreds of years ago.

Veronica Corningstone: Doesn’t it mean Saint Diego?

Ron Burgundy: No. No.

Veronica Corningstone: No, that’s - that’s what it means. Really.

Ron Burgundy: Agree to disagree.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:45:56pm

Can someone fill me in on how NY is supposedly persecuting Christians?

I seem to have missed that story somewhere along the line

16 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:46:01pm

re: #13 freetoken

After all these years of dealing with creationists, I’ve concluded that the most important thing is not that they are wrong (which they are), but rather that they are desperate to continue to live in a fantasy world.

Yes, and very determined to force it on others, which is the real problem. Especially the kids, as Bill Nye is totally right to point out.

17 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:47:25pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone fill me in on how NY is supposedly persecuting Christians?

I seem to have missed that story somewhere along the line

I’m guessing they’ve got their undies in a bunch about Cuomo.

18 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:47:42pm

It’s all about fleecing the rubes, Charles.

19 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:47:46pm

re: #13 freetoken

After all these years of dealing with creationists, I’ve concluded that the most important thing is not that they are wrong (which they are), but rather that they are desperate to continue to live in a fantasy world.

It’s because they all have pathetically weak faith in their God. If evolution is true and the Bible isn’t literal, then their entire world falls apart and life has no meaning.

20 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:48:15pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Yes, and very determined to force it on others, which is the real problem. Especially the kids, as Bill Nye is totally right to point out.

But its all about freedom!

In this case, their freedom to force your kids to waste time learning meaningless nonsense at school.

21 AlexRogan  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:49:16pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Yes, and very determined to force it on others, which is the real problem. Especially the kids, as Bill Nye is totally right to point out.

Like any “good” cult, creationists love to get ‘em young.

It makes it that much harder for them to figure out how big a bill of goods they were sold and that much harder to leave.

22 freetoken  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:50:54pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

This gets back to the fake “history” that Barton writes and which the atavists embrace. They really do want to live in a fantasy world.

I don’t know of how practical importance all this becomes, but when I see how American politics gets gridlocked on issues like the UN and international treaties (like LotS) and that the politicians holding up important agreements are so often the creationists/atavists (e.g., Inhofe), I do believe that the unwillingness to go forward and change will in the end hurt us.

23 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:51:16pm

re: #17 Kragar

I’m guessing they’ve got their undies in a bunch about Cuomo.

And what did he do to piss them off?

24 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:51:54pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone fill me in on how NY is supposedly persecuting Christians?

I seem to have missed that story somewhere along the line

It’s the typical combination of selective editing and then generated outrage. Good analysis over on Newshounds

It’s the typical Faux news story, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

RBS

25 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:52:51pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

And what did he do to piss them off?

He’s a libtard?

26 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:53:17pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn Greenwald: *silence*

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I wonder how much of a chance the protesters have. Putin wants Ukraine a lot more than the West. I don’t think the government would be risking much in the way of Western intervention in the event of a brutal crackdown.

27 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:54:08pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

And what did he do to piss them off?

Criticism continues of Cuomo’s ‘extreme’ comment

A blunt remark from New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo last week on the viability of “extreme conservatives” in New York has drawn continued criticism from the right, with both national pundits and state political leaders taking offense to the comment.

Cuomo’s Friday remark — in which he said “right to life, pro-assault weapon, anti-gay” conservatives have “no place in the state of New York” — immediately sparked ire from both the state Conservative and Republican parties, attracting headlines across the state and beyond.

28 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:54:36pm

re: #24 RealityBasedSteve

It’s the typical combination of selective editing and then generated outrage. Good analysis over on Newshounds

It’s the typical Faux news story, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

RBS

Thanks for that, I understand now.

But to stretch a remark from Cuomo like that into Persecution!

I’d be willing to bet he doesn’t want any nutjobs, liberal OR conservative in his state ideally.

29 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:55:30pm

Note that Cuomo said conservative extremists, not simply conservatives.

30 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:56:25pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Note that Cuomo said conservative >extremists, not simply conservatives.

I don’t think conservatives even bother with making that distinction any more.

31 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:57:51pm

Point being, there is a difference between someone who is pro-life and someone who is a pro-life EXTREMIST.

32 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:58:50pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Note that Cuomo said conservative [strong]extremists[/strong], not simply conservatives.

And he was talking about their electoral chances in the State, accurately.

33 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:59:37pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Point being, there is a difference between someone who is pro-life and someone who is a pro-life EXTREMIST.

Considering the fact that the state of Texas is currently forcing a family to keep a dead woman alive against her wishes because she was pregnant when she died, I’m not so sure there’s a difference between “pro-life” and “pro-life extremist” anymore.

34 klys  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:02:04pm

re: #33 Lidane

Considering the fact that the state of Texas is currently forcing a family to keep a dead woman alive against her wishes because she was pregnant when she died, I’m not so sure there’s a difference between “pro-life” and “pro-life extremist” anymore.

Here’s a reasonable distinction:

“Pro-life” = opposed to abortion for themselves.

“Pro-life extremist” = opposed to abortion for anyone and wants to legislate my body to apply their beliefs.

35 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:02:34pm

Poland seems to be weighing in a lot on the Ukraine crisis.

“The most serious crisis on our borders since 1989? We check in practice whether we can mobilize the EU. Conclusions meanwhile bitter” (Google translation)

36 Belafon  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:04:41pm

re: #6 AlexRogan

He didn’t get enough time in Firefly. I liked him in Two Guys and a Girl.

37 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:06:48pm

re: #36 Belafon

He didn’t get enough time in Firefly. I liked him in Two Guys and a Girl.

He was a great Captain Hammer

Youtube Video

38 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:08:02pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

These wingnut loons really do seem to compete with each other to see who can come up with the most ludicrous totally backward analogy to hype their fucked up ideology.

It’s all about eyeballs on the TV screen. It’s all about revenue.

It’s all about Capitalism in a fractured society where almost half of the population, remarkably, rejects basic science.

Pitiful, really.

39 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:09:34pm
40 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:11:12pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

This is one that I’ve had live streaming from time to time, along w/others.

Police assault journalist providing live video for Espresso TV

kyivpost.com

41 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:15:07pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Poland seems to be weighing in a lot on the Ukraine crisis.

“The most serious crisis on our borders since 1989? We check in practice whether we can mobilize the EU. Conclusions meanwhile bitter” (Google translation)

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I have a hard time imagining NATO getting involved, I just think the Russians are too serious about expanding their influence these days. I also think the French and Germans are probably concerned about Ukraine being politically dysfunctional and an economic dead weight. But the French seem adventurous with their military lately so anything could happen.

42 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:16:59pm

this is just a warning to all you phlogiston deniers out there

43 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:19:27pm


He said the “small symbol” was hidden in the ear and it did not take anything away from the statue.

“You need a long lens or binoculars to see it,” he said.

Photo at the link. Photo right here.

Another photo at the link to give you a sense of the size of the statue.

44 ausador  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:21:18pm

Re-posted from the page on this subject…

Glenn Beck is a Mormon, but he purposefully blurs the lines when doing his radio show to be able to appeal to evangelical Christians also. I would wager that the majority of his national audience don’t even realize that his faith is different from theirs.

The “Official” Mormon position (in public) is that the Church has no position on whether or not biological evolution is true. However their doctrine is actually quite specific about it, as least as far as humankind is concerned. When they say that the Church has no official position on biological evolution they are really talking about all other terrestrial life forms, not humans.

The first official statement from the “First Presidency” on the issue of evolution was released in 1909… (on the 50th anniversary of the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, basing its belief on divine revelation, ancient and modern, proclaims man to be the direct and lineal offspring of Deity.

All [men] who have inhabited the earth since Adam have taken bodies and become souls in like manner. It is held by some that Adam was not the first man upon this earth, and that the original human being was a development from lower orders of the animal creation. These, however, are the theories of men. The word of the Lord declares that Adam was ‘the first man of all men’ (Moses 1:34), and we are therefore in duty bound to regard him as the primal parent of the race…all men were created in the beginning after the image of God; and whether we take this to mean the spirit or the body, or both, it commits us to the same conclusion: Man began life as a human being, in the likeness of our heavenly Father.

True it is that the body of man enters upon its career as a tiny germ or embryo, which becomes an infant, quickened at a certain stage by the spirit whose tabernacle it is, and the child, after being born, develops into a man. There is nothing in this, however, to indicate that the original man the first of our race, began life as anything less than a man, or less than the human germ or embryo that becomes a man.

In 1910 a Christmas message from the “First Presidency” attempted to draw a clear line between science and Church doctrine on the matter…

Diversity of opinion does not necessitate intolerance of spirit, nor should it embitter or set rational beings against each other. … Our religion is not hostile to real science. That which is demonstrated, we accept with joy; but vain philosophy, human theory and mere speculations of men, we do not accept nor do we adopt anything contrary to divine revelation or to good common sense.

The 1909 statement is still considered official Church doctrine and has been republished verbatim in many other Mormon publications over the ensuing years. There have also been many other publications and doctrinal statements that have supported and further elucidated on the 1909 statement.

I guess Glenn will say whatever he has to in order to get the evangelicals to support him in allowing the teaching of creationism in our schools. What they don’t realize however is that the Mormon creation story he has it in mind to teach is very different than the one they learned in Sunday school.

45 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:21:44pm

ukraine is a dagger frog pointed at the heart of europe

46 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:24:20pm

So far the French are just “deeply concerned”

47 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:08:10pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Note that Cuomo said conservative >extremists, not simply conservatives.

The difference between a conservative and a conservative extremist is that the former is a RINO (or CINO, I guess).


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