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A Lost World: 1960s Afghanistan, the Photos of Bill Podlich

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Parking lot of the American International School of Kabul (AISK). The school no longer exists, although alumni stay in touch through Facebook and hold reunions every few years at different cities around the U.S. The next reunion will be held in Boston in 2013. “AISK’s last year was 1979, so the school had a 20 year history. AISK was located on the same campus that currently houses the American University of Afghanistan (on Darul-aman Rd in west Kabul). In 1967-68, there were about 250 students attending AISK and 18 graduating seniors.” - Peg Podlich

In 1967, Dr. William Podlich took a two-year leave of absence from teaching at Arizona State University and began a stint with UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) to teach in the Higher Teachers College in Kabul, Afghanistan, where he served as the “Expert on Principles of Education.” His wife Margaret and two daughters, Peg and Jan, came with him. Then teenagers, the Podlich sisters attended high school at the American International School of Kabul, which catered to the children of American and other foreigners living and working in the country.

Outside of higher education, Dr. Podlich was a prolific amateur photographer and he documented his family’s experience and daily life in Kabul, rendering frame after frame of a serene, idyllic Afghanistan. Only about a decade before the 1979 Soviet invasion, Dr. Podlich and his family experienced a thriving, modernizing country. These images, taken from 1967-68, show a stark contrast to the war torn scenes associated with Afghanistan today.

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1 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:47:53pm

It’s a beautiful country. I’ve had the pleasure of knowing a few Afghans over the years. I really hope that some day the people of that nation will be able to enjoy peace.

2 darthstar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:48:00pm

Saw a pic of Afghanistan in 1972. Women in mini-skirts with school books walking along the college campus. Looked like Anytown USA. When you look at what the Taliban has done to Afghanistan, remember that it is exactly what the Republicans and Christian Right want to do to America.

3 Kid A  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:48:34pm

Wow.

4 freetoken  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:50:18pm
The fragility of modernity

Indeed.

5 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:53:03pm

re: #2 darthstar

Saw a pic of Afghanistan in 1972. Women in mini-skirts with school books walking along the college campus. Looked like Anytown USA. When you look at what the Taliban has done to Afghanistan, remember that it is exactly what the Republicans and Christian Right want to do to America.

I really hate making the comparison but you’re right. These are two groups who want to make their religion the law and punish anyone who doesn’t follow their version of it.

6 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:53:16pm

very different vibe. tragic.

7 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:54:45pm

Nice helmets. :D

8 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:55:01pm

re: #6 SpaceJesus

very different vibe. tragic.

That’s what I was thinking too. It looks like a nation with so much possibility. And then of course you think about first the Soviet invasion, the Taliban rule, and later our invasion(not equating ours with the former two) but you just feel for the people of that nation seeing those photos.

9 darthstar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:56:38pm

Best. Fucking. List. Ever.

The list of bands that appeared on Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert:

donkirshner.com

10 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:00:45pm
11 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:02:07pm

Here’s when it went downhill.

Saur Revolution

The Saur Revolution (Persian: إنقلاب ثور‎, Pashto: اوښتون غويی‎) (also written Sawr Revolution) is the name given to the communist People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) takeover of political power from the government of Afghanistan on 27-28 April 1978. The word ‘Saur’, i.e. Taurus, refers to the Dari name of the second month of the Persian calendar, the month in which the uprising took place.[1

12 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:05:00pm
13 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:05:04pm

I recall there being a line in The Kite Runner used by the narrator’s father and based off the writer’s own father- “The mullahs want to control our souls and the Communists believe we have none.”

14 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:06:39pm

That marching band in #22 looks like something from a Mel Brooks movie.

15 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:09:32pm

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

16 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:11:14pm

Explain to me how desperate women are just going to carry a fetus to term and give birth when they can no longer LEGALLY obtain abortions.

17 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:13:28pm

re: #15 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

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This is not really about Snowden or any other whistleblower. It is about the right to a fair trial. Whether you loathe Snowden or love him should be immaterial to your view of whether the accused should retain uch a right.

You can be on the side of the Obama administration, which has made clear it doesn’t believe the accused have such a right (in its extrajudicial assassinations, it has further made clear that it doesn’t believe people deserve to be even formally accused of a crime before they are summarily executed). Or you can stand on the side of the “due process” principles that are supposed to make sure the justice system is as fair to defendants as the dissembling political class claims it is.

18 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:16:29pm

I think Sirota is surpassing even his idol, Greenwald, in Teh Derpness.

19 blueraven  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:17:49pm

Brain-dead Tarrant woman’s fetus is ‘distinctly abnormal,’ attorneys say

Time to let this woman and her family go.

“According to the medical records we have been provided, the fetus is distinctly abnormal,” the attorneys said. “Even at this early stage, the lower extremities are deformed to the extent that the gender cannot be determined.”
The attorneys said the fetus also has fluid building up inside the skull and possibly has a heart problem.
“Quite sadly, this information is not surprising due to the fact that the fetus, after being deprived of oxygen for an indeterminate length of time, is gestating within a dead and deteriorating body, as a horrified family looks on in absolute anguish, distress and sadness,” the attorneys said.

20 ausador  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:24:01pm

Update on the sad saga of the pregnant Texas woman being kept alive via life support despite her wishes and those of her husband and family. Recent tests indicate that the fetus is “Distinctly Abnormal.”

“Even at this early stage, the lower extremities are deformed to the extent the gender cannot be determined,” the statement says.

In addition the statement says the fetus has swelling of the brain — “hydrocephalus” — as well as possible heart problem.

“Quite sadly, this information is not surprising due to the fact that the fetus, after being deprived of oxygen for an indeterminate length of time, is gestating within a dead and deteriorating body, as a horrified family looks on in absolute anguish, distress and sadness,” the statement from Munoz’s lawyers Heather King and Jessica Janicek read.

usnews.nbcnews.com

This whole thing just sucks, way to go Texas legislators. :(

21 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:26:22pm

Will someone please make this inane shrew go away?

22 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:28:57pm

re: #19 blueraven

Brain-dead Tarrant woman’s fetus is ‘distinctly abnormal,’ attorneys say

Time to let this woman and her family go.

So, can we call the people that insist on this going on for who knows how long for their political/religious drum beating agenda monsters?

I’m trying to come up with some other terms but it all escapes me after reading that article.

There is so much more I’d like to type, but I am going to constrain myself for fear of going overboard. So, monsters it is!

Maybe ghouls???

23 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:29:31pm

re: #21 Kragar

No, of course an abortion doesn’t “un-rape” a woman. No one said it did. Nor does setting a leg broken in an attack “un-attack” the person. It just sets about mitigating the harm of the attack.

24 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:30:05pm

re: #22 ObserverArt

Ghouls is what first came to mind for me.

25 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:32:37pm

re: #21 Kragar

Will someone please make this inane shrew go away?

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And imprisoning the rapist doesn’t “un-rape” the victim either. Should we just give up on jailing rapists as well?

26 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:37:20pm

re: #21 Kragar

Will someone please make this inane shrew go away?

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Shouldn’t she be home having babies anyway?

27 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:38:27pm

re: #21 Kragar

Will someone please make this inane shrew go away?

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Oh no…Lila Rose.

Everyone knows who she is, but just to brush up on her a bit I just did a quick Google and of course Wiki is the first link and scrolling down I came across this:

Activism

At the age of 15, Rose founded Live Action and began giving presentations to schools and youth groups.[2] While at UCLA, she partnered with conservative activist James O’Keefe III, who found inspiration in activist Saul Alinsky’s grassroots organizing handbook Rules for Radicals.[2] After further inspiration by Texas activist Mark Crutcher’s taping of calls to Planned Parenthood clinics featuring women posing as pregnant minors, Rose and O’Keefe decided in the fall of 2006 to don hidden cameras and secretly record staffers in several Planned Parenthood facilities.[9]

Anyone see anything kind of strange in that entry?

(Tapping fingers on desk top wondering about the strange dichotomy in front of me…I’m gonna get some tea…)

28 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:43:42pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

And imprisoning the rapist doesn’t “un-rape” the victim either. Should we just give up on jailing rapists as well?

And executing a murderer does not “un-murder” the victim. Awaiting Texas to lead the charge to get rid of the death penalty.
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29 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:49:44pm

re: #27 ObserverArt

I must be missing something. What struck you as strange?

30 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:50:05pm

I don’t think Ms. Rose quite understands that rape is not about sex, it’s about control. And nothing gives a rapist control over his victim like leaving her dealing with an unwanted pregnancy and subsequently an unwanted child if she chooses to carry to term.

Perhaps she might spend some time talking to rape victims and actually telling them to their face that carrying their rapist’s child to term is preferable to abortion because they can’t be “un-raped.”

31 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:54:45pm

re: #29 calochortus

I must be missing something. What struck you as strange?

I’m gonna let it play out a bit and see if any other members see what I see. Maybe it is just my viewpoint, but I’m wondering if any others might share it.

32 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 7:57:07pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

OK, I’ll wait.

33 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:07:50pm

re: #27 ObserverArt

Oh no…Lila Rose.

Everyone knows who she is, but just to brush up on her a bit I just did a quick Google and of course Wiki is the first link and scrolling down I came across this:

Activism

At the age of 15, Rose founded Live Action and began giving presentations to schools and youth groups.[2] While at UCLA, she partnered with conservative activist James O’Keefe III, who found inspiration in activist Saul Alinsky’s grassroots organizing handbook Rules for Radicals.[2] After further inspiration by Texas activist Mark Crutcher’s taping of calls to Planned Parenthood clinics featuring women posing as pregnant minors, Rose and O’Keefe decided in the fall of 2006 to don hidden cameras and secretly record staffers in several Planned Parenthood facilities.[9]

Anyone see anything kind of strange in that entry?

(Tapping fingers on desk top wondering about the strange dichotomy in front of me…I’m gonna get some tea…)

The bolded part?

34 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:12:38pm

re: #33 Eventual Carrion

Anyone see anything kind of strange in that entry?

(Tapping fingers on desk top wondering about the strange dichotomy in front of me…I’m gonna get some tea…)

The bolded part?

Ha…I am not alone!

I was just going to copy and paste that into a new response, as it looks to be a slow night this evening comment wise.

Think about that all for a moment.

Saul Alinsky radical founder of community organizing. Hated by Republicans and used as a political hammer against Obama.

James O’Keefe, Conservative gadabout using the writings of one Saul Alinsky to go out and bring down a community organizing group…Acorn.

35 darthstar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:14:05pm

Watching Bill Maher from last Friday. He’s got GG on for the opening interview. While GG is blowing his usual smoke, it’s obvious that Maher doesn’t take him seriously, and just asked him why he should decide what’s classified and what’s not. GG of course, claims the Constitution (ahh-AHHH! in angel voices) gives him, an ex-pat in Brazil, the right.

A more interesting interview thank I expected.

36 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:14:46pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

It didn’t really surprise me because so many of the wingnuts absolutely obsess about Alinsky that they have been far more familiar his writings than most people.

37 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:16:09pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

The bolded part?

Ha…I am not alone!

I was just going to copy and paste that into a new response, as it looks to be a slow night this evening comment wise.

Think about that all for a moment.

Saul Alinsky radical founder of community organizing. Hated by Republicans and used as a political hammer against Obama.

James O’Keefe, Conservative gadabout using the writings of one Saul Alinsky to go out and bring down a community organizing group…Acorn.

Yeah, James is a goofy bastard.

38 Kragar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:18:24pm
39 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:18:25pm

re: #36 calochortus

It didn’t really surprise me because so many of the wingnuts absolutely obsess about Alinsky that they have been far more familiar his writings than most people.

True. But surely in O’Keefe’s case a strange relationship in philosophies. Makes me wonder how that dude’s brain works. Maybe I really do not want to know…

40 darthstar  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:18:27pm

re: #35 darthstar

Watching Bill Maher from last Friday. He’s got GG on for the opening interview. While GG is blowing his usual smoke, it’s obvious that Maher doesn’t take him seriously, and just asked him why he should decide what’s classified and what’s not. GG of course, claims the Constitution (ahh-AHHH! in angel voices) gives him, an ex-pat in Brazil, the right.

A more interesting interview thank I expected.

He really pinned GG down on the fact that every time Snowden says something, he also says something that is “fucking nuts.”

41 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:20:27pm

42 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:20:38pm

re: #39 ObserverArt

True. But surely in O’Keefe’s case a strange relationship in philosophies. Makes me wonder how that dude’s brain works. Maybe I really do not want to know…

I know I don’t want to know.

43 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:21:49pm

re: #40 darthstar

He really pinned GG down on the fact that every time Snowden says something, he also says something that is “fucking nuts.”

Are there YouTube or other ways to see that interview? ‘m disconnected from HBO.

(Going searching…but hoping a lizard can speed that up…)

44 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:23:01pm

re: #38 Kragar

Lies, damn lies, and statistics…

45 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:26:28pm

re: #41 Gus

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Nice quote there Gus. I’ve not read or heard that one. I haven’t read much about him admittedly, but I am going to. I like his thinking as it seems close to mine…especially the whole doubt thing. Being steeped in Catholic dogma confused me for life!

; ) But it sure left me thinking about everything…a lot!

Edit. Now that I think about it, that quote is close to another famous commie. Marx.

No, not that one. Groucho! I wouldn’t want to be a member of a club that would accept people like me as a member!

46 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:29:03pm

re: #38 Kragar

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[** looking at a cardboard box **]
Son: What are you talking about dad?
Dad: One day this could all be yours!

47 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:31:59pm

“Let’s say that if there is an afterlife, and I have anything to say about it, I will unreservedly choose to go to hell.” — Saul Alinsky

48 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:33:42pm

re: #47 Gus

“Let’s say that if there is an afterlife, and I have anything to say about it, I will unreservedly choose to go to hell.” — Saul Alinsky

He would have made a great Lizard!

(I think I’ve read that comment around here a few times)

49 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:36:23pm

This is the full answer:

ALINSKY: Not at any time. I’ve never joined any organization — not even the ones I’ve organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it’s Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what judge Learned Hand described as “that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you’re right.” If you don’t have that, if you think you’ve got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide. The great atomic physicist Niels Bohr summed it up pretty well when he said, “Every sentence I utter must be understood not as an affirmation, but as a question.” Nobody owns the truth, and dogma, whatever form it takes, is the ultimate enemy of human freedom.

Now, this doesn’t mean that I’m rudderless; I think I have a much keener sense of direction and purpose than the true believer with his rigid ideology, because I’m free to be loose, resilient and independent, able to respond to any situation as it arises without getting trapped by articles of faith. My only fixed truth is a belief in people, a conviction that if people have the opportunity to act freely and the power to control their own destinies, they’ll generally reach the right decisions. The only alternative to that belief is rule by an elite, whether it’s a Communist bureaucracy or our own present-day corporate establishment. You should never have an ideology more specific than that of the founding fathers: “For the general welfare.” That’s where I parted company with the Communists in the Thirties, and that’s where I stay parted from them today.

From What Would Saul Alinsky Do? (Playboy interview 1972)

50 ausador  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:36:42pm

Sad news, the Captain (71) and Tennille (73) have filed for divorce after 39 years of marriage. What happened to “Love will keep us together?”

Youtube Video

(reports say that the Captain is suffering from a neurological disorder of some type) :(

51 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:39:22pm

I used to work with Jan, his daughter, she told me all about this, what a surprise!!

52 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:41:45pm

re: #47 Gus

“Let’s say that if there is an afterlife, and I have anything to say about it, I will unreservedly choose to go to hell.” — Saul Alinsky

PLAYBOY: Why?

ALINSKY: Hell would be heaven for me. All my life I’ve been with the have-nots. Over here, if you’re a have-not, you’re short of dough. If you’re a have-not in hell, you’re short of virtue. Once I get into hell, I’ll start organizing the have-nots over there.

PLAYBOY: Why them?

ALINSKY: They’re my kind of people.

Saul Alinsky died a few months later, on June 12, 1972.

53 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:45:58pm

re: #47 Gus

“Let’s say that if there is an afterlife, and I have anything to say about it, I will unreservedly choose to go to hell.” — Saul Alinsky

re: #48 ObserverArt

He would have made a great Lizard!

(I think I’ve read that comment around here a few times)

(raises hand.)

54 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:52:16pm

re: #50 ausador

Sad news, the Captain (71) and Tennille (73) have filed for divorce after 39 years of marriage. What happened to “Love will keep us together?”

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(reports say that the Captain is suffering from a neurological disorder of some type) :(

At that age? Could well be a maneuver to keep from losing all they own to medical expenses - medicare usually requires you to spend all your money before you get help. If one has high expense problems, they could divorce, allow the other to have a comfortable set of resources while allowing the other to legally be within the limits required by law.

No clue if that’s actually the case, but it isn’t an uncommon reality if you aren’t really wealthy.

55 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:53:40pm

Alinsky is probably too complex for the average bear.

56 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:54:21pm

But, life is like a buffet. You pick the stuff you want without eating everything on the cart.

57 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:56:14pm

Of course the RWNJs would see me posting this and think I’m a communist. Hehe. :D

58 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:56:38pm
59 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:57:36pm

re: #57 Gus

Of course the RWNJs would see me posting this and think I’m a communist. Hehe. :D

I think you’re a figment of my imagination.
In fact, you all are.

60 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:57:42pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

The bolded part?

Ha…I am not alone!

I was just going to copy and paste that into a new response, as it looks to be a slow night this evening comment wise.

Think about that all for a moment.

Saul Alinsky radical founder of community organizing. Hated by Republicans and used as a political hammer against Obama.

James O’Keefe, Conservative gadabout using the writings of one Saul Alinsky to go out and bring down a community organizing group…Acorn.

I recall reading somewhere (here, maybe?) that some conservatives really admire the organizational skills of Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zidong, and Pol Pot. Not sure if they completely buy into the brutal killing of opponents part, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t consider from time to time.

61 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:57:49pm

re: #54 William Barnett-Lewis

I had a neighbor years ago that divorced because he had an inoperable brain tumor and didn’t want to bankrupt her. So sad.

62 calochortus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:00:41pm

Time to say good night. Hasta mañana.

63 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:01:48pm

re: #59 Varek Raith

I think you’re a figment of my imagination.
In fact, you all are.

Just a figment of my neurons.

64 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:05:38pm

65 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:10:59pm

re: #61 calochortus

I had a neighbor years ago that divorced because he had an inoperable brain tumor and didn’t want to bankrupt her. So sad.

In a similar vein — I might be misremembering this a little, but the gist of the story is correct — I read a story a while ago where a guy had to quit his job because the state insurance program provided for an experimental treatment for his sick daughter….she was eligible for the treatment, but only as long as he stayed unemployed and on welfare.

With each passing day it seems like we live on Bizarro Planet.

66 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:13:19pm

Video Released Of Fatal Plane Crash In Aspen

Liveleak Video

67 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:16:17pm

Looks like he porpoised.

68 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:21:40pm

Damn. That crash was nasty. Did he come in way too fast to cause that, or did he try to pull up on purpose and it then nosed back in?

Edit…time to log out. Thanks for the back’n’forth Gus and others.

69 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:29:24pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Damn. That crash was nasty. Did he come in way too fast to cause that, or did he try to pull up on purpose and it then nosed back in?

My guess would be his rate of decent was too high. Hit the runway, bounced up, the over-control to bring it back down. Could have been oscillation too for the pitch down. Looks like two bounces and then down. Also a tail wind. You can see the snow blowing in the tail wind direction here.

70 bratwurst  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:30:16pm
71 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:34:45pm

NTSB Identification: CEN14FA099
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, January 05, 2014 in Aspen, CO
Aircraft: CANADAIR LTD CL 600 2B16, registration: N115WF
Injuries: 1 Fatal,2 Serious.

72 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:43:59pm

Avoidable. Tail winds were more than twice the recommended speed. Should have aborted after the first bounce. Not a pilot but I’ve read the FAA pilot’s manual a bunch of times. Never try to recover a porpoising landing.

73 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:45:16pm

Plane crashes into dragstrip at Akureyri, Iceland August 5 2013

Liveleak Video

Another crash. This one’s really bone headed. Looks like he exceeded bank angle and caused a left wing stall.

74 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:47:27pm
75 Kid A  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:47:46pm

Lolwut

76 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:48:01pm

Like on flight simulator when it starts yelling at you, “bank angle, bank angle.”

77 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:48:40pm

That’s what happened in that bone headed B-52 crash at Fairchild AFB.

78 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:49:58pm

B-52 Crash at Fairchild Air Force Base

Youtube Video

79 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:51:11pm

The Aspen crash could have been worse IMO. I was surprised to see the fuselage still intact.

80 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:06:53pm

Saab Gripen Pilot Induced Oscillation

Youtube Video

81 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:08:01pm

Lighter version of oscillation.

Hard Landing and Pilot-Induced-Oscillation in a Glider

Youtube Video

82 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:12:21pm

Chase plane view of F-8 DFBW pilot-induced oscillations

Youtube Video

83 joe90  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:14:36pm

Fascinating stuff Gus, thanks for posting.

84 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:15:55pm

re: #79 Gus

The Aspen crash could have been worse IMO. I was surprised to see the fuselage still intact.

The landing gear acted as a crush zone for the fuselage. As they collapsed, they absorbed a lot of the shock. Longitudinal strength of the fuselage thus maintained some integrity. It was likely that the landing gear strut broke the wing spar that snapped the wing that was lost, causing the rollover. If you look at the FedEx MD-11 crash at Narita you can see a similar result. Sadly, everyone died.

In any case, only fools land with a 30 knot tailwind behind them. If your normal landing speed is 110 knots, you are touching down at 140. No room for error. They kangaroo’d that plane into the runway and blew it up. Major fuckup.

85 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:18:23pm

re: #84 austin_blue

The landing gear acted as a crush zone for the fuselage. As they collapsed, they absorbed a lot of the shock. Longitudinal strength of the fuselage thus maintained some integrity. It was likely that the landing gear strut broke the wing spar that snapped the wing that was lost, causing the rollover. If you look at the FedEx MD-11 crash at Narita you can see a similar result. Sadly, everyone died.

In any case, only fools land with a 30 knot tailwind behind them. If your normal landing speed is 110 knots, you are touching down at 140. No room for error. They kangaroo’d that plane into the runway and blew it up. Major fuckup.

Yep. Was just looking at the Narita crash again. Bouncing like crazy. Porpoising.

86 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:18:44pm

re: #75 Kid A

Er, no. Leno might be retiring from the Tonight Show, but he still wants a viable career. Tying himself to Glenn Beck’s pile of fail and derp would destroy that.

87 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:20:10pm

Narita crash.

Youtube Video

88 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:20:55pm

re: #74 Gus

Accelerated and turning flight stall

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If your are banking at 60 degrees and you aren’t pulling two gees, you are falling out of the sky. Simple physics. Gravity is the law that keeps aircraft flying.

89 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:22:40pm

The mountains in the background where so many Russians, from Britain, Americans have died. Bloody mountains of Afghanistan.

90 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:25:59pm

This one bounced and rolled to the right and then over (+/-). No fatalities though.

FedEx Express Flight 14

Narita crash: FedEx Express Flight 80

91 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:26:17pm

Afghanistan ~
No money for development. War with Russia, resurgent strength of jingoist power groups. Gripping poverty. Usurping of women’s rights. It seems it is about to be given back to the Taliban?

92 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:27:15pm

re: #87 Gus

Narita crash.

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Yeesh.

Every time I see that, I keep yelling “No!”. As an ex-AF pilot it’s just too tragic. Fly the airplane. Airspeed and altitude. Fly the airplane.

Chilling to see two men die in a perfectly good airframe.

93 Lidane  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:28:41pm

This should be fun:

94 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:28:50pm

re: #90 Gus

This one bounced and rolled to the right and then over (+/-). No fatalities though.

FedEx Express Flight 14

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Narita crash: FedEx Express Flight 80

Newark, right?

95 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:29:28pm

Another one that ended up on its back: China Airlines Flight 642

Amazingly…

Fatalities 3
Survivors 312

Video. You might have seen this one.

Liveleak Video

96 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:29:41pm

re: #94 austin_blue

Newark, right?

Yep.

97 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:30:23pm

re: #92 austin_blue

Read the instruments! JFK jr. died because he could not. The recovery crew found them all strapped in their seats, hanging upside down in the ocean.

98 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:35:31pm

re: #97 prairiefire

Read the instruments! JFK jr. died because he could not. The recovery crew found them all strapped in their seats, hanging upside down in the ocean.

NTSB Identification: NYC99MA178.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division
Accident occurred Friday, July 16, 1999 in VINEYARD HAVEN, MA
Probable Cause Approval Date: 07/06/2000
Aircraft: Piper PA-32R-301, registration: N9253N
Injuries: 3 Fatal.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:
The pilot’s failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation. Factors in the accident were haze, and the dark night.

99 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:36:44pm

re: #95 Gus

Another one that ended up on its back: China Airlines Flight 642

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Amazingly…

Video. You might have seen this one.

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Yeah, when trying to land at Kai Tak, don’t do it during a fucking typhoon.

I landed three times at that motherfucker of an airport from the western approach and my testicles retracted into my abdomen each time. Flop sweat? Yeah, baby. That was just a bitch kitty of a landing.

100 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:40:27pm

re: #99 austin_blue

Yeah, when trying to land at Kai Tak, don’t do it during a fucking typhoon.

I landed three times at that motherfucker of an airport from the western approach and my testicles retracted into my abdomen each time. Flop sweat? Yeah, baby. That was just a bitch kitty of a landing.

Best landing videos ever though. :D

101 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:43:26pm

102 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:44:07pm

re: #100 Gus

Best landing videos ever though. :D

Hell yes! Engine strike central, and more tire smoke than anywhere else in the world.

Oh, and you got to see Kowloon up close and personal. REALLY up close.

103 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:45:29pm

104 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:45:58pm

Oops. Wrong one. Derp.

105 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:46:35pm

re: #103 Gus

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That’s not Kai Tak.

106 piratedan  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:46:53pm

I’ve heard that Juneau can also be a tricky place to land…. any truth to it?

107 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:47:54pm

re: #104 Gus

Oops. Wrong one. Derp.

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That might be. Can’t see the checkerboard, though.

108 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:47:56pm

re: #105 austin_blue

That’s not Kai Tak.

airliners.net

109 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:50:20pm

110 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:51:46pm

re: #108 Gus

airliners.net

Never saw an approach from the southwest! We always came in from the northwest. Aim at the checkerboard, turn right to Kowloon, and a hard left at the last second to line up on the runway.

111 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:52:56pm

re: #110 austin_blue

Never saw an approach from the southwest! We always came in from the northwest. Aim at the checkerboard, turn right to Kowloon, and a hard left at the last second to line up on the runway.

That must explain the “Abnormal approach.” :D

112 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:54:48pm

re: #109 Gus

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Yup, that’s it.

Maximum pucker factor. Can you imagine living there?

113 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:58:05pm

re: #112 austin_blue

Yup, that’s it.

Maximum pucker factor. Can you imagine living there?

Would suck. Looks cool from the outside living there must have been a challenge.

114 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:04:15pm

Boeing 747 Cockpit Video landing Hong Kong Kai Tak Rain IGS

Youtube Video

Checkerboard!

115 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:04:47pm

Planes Over Hong Kong (1998)

Youtube Video

116 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:06:08pm

Instruction would have better prepared Kennedy ~articles.courant.com

117 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:06:43pm

118 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:09:06pm

re: #113 Gus

Would suck. Looks cool from the outside living there must have been a challenge.

As far as I know, no jet has splashed into Kowloon. Lucky for them.

Kai Tak used to be a joint Civil/Military base in the early 80’s when I flew in there, although the military area was tucked waaay back in one corner of the facility. Nice stopover. I got some very nice bespoke suits and shirts in Hong Kong.

Noisiest place I’ve ever been, though. Great food, but there were times when it was best not to ask what was being served.

(“Shut up and swallow it, yank.”)

119 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:09:46pm

re: #116 prairiefire

Instruction would have better prepared Kennedy ~articles.courant.com

Yep. Like an instrument rating. My brother got one. Took a lot of work. Not flying much any more. I took an intro flight out of Princeton once.

120 austin_blue  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:14:51pm

Gah! Late.

Nasty weather day tomorrow and the possibility of Snowpocalypse 2014!! by Friday morning (.10” of ice! Hide your daughters!). We’ll see.

in any case, night all. Sweet scaly dreams to you and yours.

121 Gus  Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:23:37pm

Good night.

122 Teukka  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 12:37:54am

re: #80 Gus

Saab Gripen Pilot Induced Oscillation

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If I remember correctly, SAAB JAS-39 Gripen wasn’t all pilot induced oscillation, from what I recall there was some issue with the flight control system which made the whole thing oscillate when the right conditions occured. It has since been fixed. This is another JAS-39 crash, this time in central Stockholm, Sweden, early 90’s.

Youtube Video

Number of injured was 1. The jet crashed some 30 ft / 10m east of Västerbron, a major bridge through town (also a couple of hundred yards north of my home), on just about the only empty spot there was, the bridge and the rest of the island it crashed on was pretty much packed. It could’ve easily been much, much worse.

The site reeked of jet fuel for at least 3 months, the aviation authority no longer allows airshows over any area where there is people, and according to a satirical TV show, the consumer protection agency was considering action against SAAB Aerospace for false labeling, as SAAB JAS-39 Gripen was obviously not a fighter jet, but the most expensive earth rotator in the agency’s history. :P

123 freetoken  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 12:54:42am
124 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:22:01am

Yeah, no kidding, though “trust [to carry water]” would perhaps be more accurate. Holland is a lawyer who was part of Greenwald’s law practice in the ’90s, and whose name you will often see on internet forums and twitter arguing against criticisms of him (so she most likely meant this as a rebuke of ‘untrustworthy’ journalists).

125 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:23:19am

re: #102 austin_blue

Hell yes! Engine strike central, and more tire smoke than anywhere else in the world.

Oh, and you got to see Kowloon up close and personal. REALLY up close.

Kai Tak has been retired from active service for commercial flights. The new airport is much better.

126 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:41:21am

File under Authentic Frontier Gibberish:

A woman who hopes to be Alaska’s next U.S. senator recently uploaded video of herself speaking in tongues while fully clothed in a steam room.

“I’m at the Alaska Club West and I’m spending a little time in the steam room with Suzie,” Republican candidate Kathleen Tonn said in the video, which was uploaded to YouTube on January 18. “Suzie doesn’t know Jesus Christ as her savior, but ironically she has a pastor/priest who is her neighbor. So, she has allowed me to sing and deliver a message in the Holy Ghost and tongues.”

“One point of clarification: Speaking in tongues or singing in tongues is very valuable because the message cannot be understood by Satan,” she continued. “But the Holy Spirit can use that message to bring deliverance, to bring clarity, to give discernment and words of wisdom and knowledge, and tongues is interpreted by a person who has the gift of interpretation. So I’m going to go fast. “

She then prayed and spent the next few minutes singing in tongues.

127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:43:56am

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

File under Authentic Frontier Gibberish:

I have little concern that people like this will prevail under normal circumstances. But I am worried that if there is a major crisis, disaster or upheaval, folks like this could gain undue influence and do a great deal of damage before the situation is brought under control again.

128 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:49:58am

Wolf Blitzer / Jane Mayer interview.

Youtube Video

Starts out with her obfuscating around Wolf Blitzer’s questions on how exactly the communication worked for her Snowden interview, and then is mostly uninteresting Snowden apologetics. She also dodges a question about whether or not she asked Snowden to address this charge:

cbsnews.com

ROGERS: … we noticed that a guy that was worried about privacy issues spent a lot of time, and as a recent DIA report revealed, stealing information the vast majority of which had nothing to do with the NSA program and everything to do with our military capabilities, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, number one.

The relevant bit from the above Blitzer / Mayer interview:

BLITZER: What Mike Rogers also says, he says that if you take a look at the at the stuff that Snowden stole, some of it does deal with the privacy rights of the american public, but most of it, he says, deals with major military related issues, that only a country, let’s say like Russia or China, would really find beneficial, and that had nothing to do with national security issues, if you will — privacy issues, if you will. Did you get into that at all with him?

MAYER: Well, I mean, he, you know, the other thing is that we don’t know, I’m not sure how he knows, but maybe he does, but we don’t really know everything that’s that-that Snowden took. So, I mean, and what’s been released so far really is focused on the privacy issue and has obviously broken into a, you know, tremendous debate all around the world.

BLITZER: Because Rogers says a lot of it deals with military hardware, stuff like that, sensitive information.

Seems likely the real answer is “no, I never bothered to raise that obvious question about the composition of the files he stole. I was too busy facilitating his essentially puting out a press release.”

129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:54:36am

re: #128 simoom

Seems likely the real answer is “no, I never bothered to raise that obvious question about the composition of the files he stole.”

And that is my problem. Uncovering illegal activity on the part of the NSA was one thing, but revealing a mass of other undifferentiated secrets was not acceptable.

130 CarolJ  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 3:16:57am

re: #86 Lidane

Not only that, but he could make more just doing appearances than what the Blaze could even consider offering him. Hell, his retirement package would pay more than that.

131 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:07:09am

re: #41 Gus

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Ironically, that quote about “gnawing inner doubt” is pretty much exactly what my Sufi Sheikh in Berlin said about religious faith; if you don’t question your faith from time to time, if you don’t stop and think, “Am I following the right path?” every so often, then you’ll find yourself on the road to dogmatism and ultimately, radicalism.

Heh……I guess the Sheikh was a secret Alinskyite. :D

132 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:25:01am

This is why I’m not fond of “outsider watchdog” committees who second-guess what the courts should ultimately decide. Just because they say it’s illegal doesn’t make it so—that’s up to the courts to declare it.

Watchdog Report Says N.S.A. Program Is Illegal and Should End

nytimes.com

The headline should read, “Watchdog Report Thinks NSA Program is Illegal and Should End”. As far as anyone knows, it is operating within the parameters of the law at this time. As the following paragraph says, this is a critique of the law and bulk collection program. Whether or not this section of the law is over-broad and abusive is something to be decided by the courts or by Congress clarifying and amending, or ending it.

“The Obama administration has portrayed the bulk collection program as useful and lawful while at the same time acknowledging concerns about privacy and potential abuse. But in its report, the board lays out what may be the most detailed critique of the government’s once-secret legal theory behind the program: that a law known as Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows the F.B.I. to obtain business records deemed “relevant” to an investigation, can be legitimately interpreted as authorizing the N.S.A. to collect all calling records in the country.”

133 chadu  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:50:00am

re: #52 Gus

That was pretty awesome.

134 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:54:41am

Looks like there may be a truce in Kiev?


Don’t know if everyone has dispersed or not; there is no longer any twitter activity from Euromaidan, and none of the live streams are functioning, just showing videos.

135 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:59:48am

HURR HURR!!!! BUT TEH LIBRULS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!1!!!

136 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:06:59am

re: #56 Gus

But, life is like a buffet. You pick the stuff you want without eating everything on the cart.

Isn’t that more like dim sum than a buffet?
;)

137 theye1  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:10:23am

I would like to point out that these photos are misleading, it’s ignoring the reality of Afghanistan pre-civil war. Most the country was not like the small group of liberal elite in Kabul, for one thing, at 50% of the population didn’t attend school at all, and most didn’t go beyond basic primary schooling. This goes up dramatically for women, of course. You see half a dozen women in miniskirts, and ignore the largely conservative and rural population of Afghanistan.

138 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:11:44am

After protestors took over his office, this governor resigned.

139 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:17:37am

Heh. Looks like Justin Bieber got arrested for drag racing his Lamborghini and DUI. He’s in the slammer, apparently.

tmz.com

Can’t say I didn’t see this coming.

140 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:18:08am

re: #134 Justanotherhuman

Looks like there may be a truce in Kiev?

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Don’t know if everyone has dispersed or not; there is no longer any twitter activity from Euromaidan, and none of the live streams are functioning, just showing videos.

It’s like an eight-hour truce, pending the outcome of a meeting between the opposition and the President.

141 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:19:59am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

It’s like an eight-hour truce, pending the outcome of a meeting between the opposition and the President.

They seem to be employing another tactic, as well.

142 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:24:05am

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

They seem to be employing another tactic, as well.

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That’s an interesting tactic. A somewhat more subtle form of protest.

I think Putin’s having a headache right about now.

143 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:25:28am

re: #139 Dr Lizardo

drag racing his Lamborghini

How f-ing stupid is that. I almost wish some of these supercars had age limits on purchase and driving. Those are not cars to be played with. Thankfully, nobody was injured or killed because of a man-child’s stupidity.

144 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:27:56am
145 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:28:17am

re: #143 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How f-ing stupid is that. I almost wish some of these supercars had age limits on purchase and driving. Those are not cars to be played with. Thankfully, nobody was injured or killed because of a man-child’s stupidity.

Yeah…….a kid in a high-performance supercar is a disaster waiting to happen. You have to be a damned good driver for those type of cars; it’s not like being behind the wheel of a Toyota Camry or something.

And of course, even experienced drivers can still crash.

146 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:28:47am

Euromaidan back up after 12 hrs. Just posted this a few min ago.


So the western press is finally taking notice?

147 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:31:28am

Good morning Lizards. Another sunny and cold day in Philly.

Looks like most people have dug themselves out. But the secondary roads in a lot of places still have some packed snow/ice combo on them. And the cold temps are affecting use of road salt.

148 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:31:56am

re: #143 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How f-ing stupid is that. I almost wish some of these supercars had age limits on purchase and driving. Those are not cars to be played with. Thankfully, nobody was injured or killed because of a man-child’s stupidity.

Article I saw said that the car was a rental.

149 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:33:02am

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

Euromaidan back up after 12 hrs. Just posted this a few min ago.

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So the western press is finally taking notice?

The Western media has been pretty much MIA on this story; The Guardian is covering it pretty well, but everyone else seems to be ignoring it.

150 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:33:27am

WTFITS

151 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:36:04am

re: #150 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

Look at my tantrum!! Pay no attention to the illogical timeline, methods, and nature of the documents we’re releasing in order to hold your attention for our own profit.
(end translation)

152 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:39:17am

Whoa!

(Google translation) Yanukovych called Fisherman’s parliament and hold a meeting “to resolve the situation.” But photos of the meeting of the future.


Full Godwin.

153 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:40:06am

At least they’re not seizure-inducing like the Norwegian team.

154 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:41:09am

re: #152 Justanotherhuman

Whoa!

(Google translation) Yanukovych called Fisherman’s parliament and hold a meeting “to resolve the situation.” But photos of the meeting of the future.

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Full Godwin.

That looks like a scene from “Inglourious Bastards”

155 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:41:33am

Oh it TOTALLY IS a scene from IB.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:45:49am

Brad Pitt has taken over the Ukraine?!?
/

157 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:45:50am

re: #155 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh it TOTALLY IS a scene from IB.

Obviously the Euromaidans don’t trust Yanukovych?

They’re smart.

158 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:48:46am

Woot!

159 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:51:50am

Alternative city council established in Rivne and peaceful takeover.

160 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:57:32am

re: #158 Justanotherhuman

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

Yankunovych is in trouble. Control is slipping away.

161 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:57:35am

Fitchburg Teacher’s Aide Goes On Paid Leave Over Modeling Photos

Oh the irony. If the teacher’s aid were a man, he’d get to serve as a US Senator in MA and potentially NH. #bqhatevwr

162 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:58:17am
163 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:00:50am

re: #143 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How f-ing stupid is that. I almost wish some of these supercars had age limits on purchase and driving. Those are not cars to be played with. Thankfully, nobody was injured or killed because of a man-child’s stupidity.

I’m not sure if it is still in effect, but at a time in auto racing you had to work your way up in smaller classes of cars until the FIA granted you a super license. A super license allowed you to go to the high-powered stuff to race. And if you were incompetent or a danger to others on the track, they would pull your license.

Many car buffs (me!) think something similar should be done with road cars. Just because you can plunk down the big bucks for something with over 500 hp doesn’t mean you should be able to take to the streets in it. There should be performance testing facilities where you have to go through high-performance driving school.

I remember a bad accident here in Columbus when the third generation of the Dodge Viper came out, two brothers too one for a test drive (luckily without the sales rep). They made a turn onto this one road and got on the gas real hard. The car fishtailed and the back end went into a culvert and when they came back out the car launched airborne into an on coming car killing the people in the other car ( I think 2 people, memory fades).

The two brothers turned into complete snakes after they both came out of the hospital with head injuries. One claimed the other was driving and neither would admit it saying they had head injuries and amnesia. I do believe the jury went with who the salesman said was driving when they left the car lot and hit him pretty hard with vehicular manslaughter and a maximum sentence set by law. It really pissed of a lot of car people. Many local car buffs discussed the super license idea after that.

Now ther are even more cars that have extreme performance. Need we talk about some of the fantastic Porsche accidents that have claimed some Hollywood types.

164 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:01:03am
165 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:02:09am

I should attribute that quote to “Tomcat Jefferson”

166 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:03:51am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

I should attribute that quote to “Tomcat Jefferson”

Or, if you want ‘splodey heads…Cat Stevens

167 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:06:31am

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

Yankunovych is in trouble. Control is slipping away.

Maybe this can be accomplished w/o total revolution. I’d like to think so. Whether it’s going to work for the majority of Ukrainians is for the future to decide. But isn’t it always like that? We’ll just have to wait and see if a liberal democracy can be established in place of the authoritarian regime that is there now posing as “open govt”. I expect the Euromaidans have a way to go to fully live up to that; however, better than what’s in place now.

168 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:06:45am

...

169 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:07:09am

re: #163 ObserverArt

The FAA licenses pilots that way, you work your way up. And it’s not a bad idea with guns either.

170 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:07:35am

Hm… tweet didn’t post

171 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:08:06am

re: #161 geoffm33

Fitchburg Teacher’s Aide Goes On Paid Leave Over Modeling Photos

Oh the irony. If the teacher’s aid were a man, he’d get to serve as a US Senator in MA and potentially NH. #bqhatevwr

Pearson was put on paid administrative leave from the South Street Elementary School, where she works as a special-needs assistant, after someone sent the district a package containing a sample of the dozens of semi-explicit modeling photos that Pearson has posed for

Awesome. #nowangry

172 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:08:26am
173 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:10:49am

re: #167 Justanotherhuman

Maybe this can be accomplished w/o total revolution. I’d like to think so. Whether it’s going to work for the majority of Ukrainians is for the future to decide. But isn’t it always like that? We’ll just have to wait and see if a liberal democracy can be established in place of the authoritarian regime that is there now posing as “open govt”. I expect the Euromaidans have a way to go to fully live up to that; however, better than what’s in place now.

I hope so. On a less optimistic tone, there’s this:

…if people die and martyrs appear, an escalation could easily turn into an armed conflict. The protests are, perhaps, not even the only and most dangerous issue. A civil war could also occur as a result of separatist tendencies. In the case of an accumulation of various crises in Ukraine - political, social, economic, financial, international etc. - some regions in the East and South of Ukraine could appeal to Moscow asking to become Russian protectorates. Both official Kyiv and Ukrainian nationalists would hardly accept this, and may try to prevent a separation by force. This, in turn, could trigger a Russian military involvement following the scheme of Moscow’s intervention in Georgia in August 2008.

social-europe.eu

174 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:11:18am

re: #170 darthstar

Hm… tweet didn’t post

Deleted Tweet?

175 Flounder  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:11:20am

Bieber vid

176 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:13:55am

re: #161 geoffm33

Fitchburg Teacher’s Aide Goes On Paid Leave Over Modeling Photos

Oh the irony. If the teacher’s aid were a man, he’d get to serve as a US Senator in MA and potentially NH. #bqhatevwr

She’s a teacher’s aide for elementary school special ed students. I doubt any of them cruise modelmayhem to ogle at the photos. (Well, maybe 6th graders might.)

There are more relevant grounds to dismiss or furlough a teacher. Posing semi-nude shouldn’t be one of them.

177 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:13:57am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

I should attribute that quote to “Tomcat Jefferson”

Sorry but I searched meowticello.org and found no such quote

178 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:14:06am
179 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:16:02am

re: #161 geoffm33

Fitchburg Teacher’s Aide Goes On Paid Leave Over Modeling Photos

Oh the irony. If the teacher’s aid were a man, he’d get to serve as a US Senator in MA and potentially NH. #bqhatevwr

Except Brown was still a student. She isn’t, but I get the point. I don’t think teacher’s aide is her life’s work, though, so with this publicity, she can get on with it.

180 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:16:56am

This is what happens when FReepers achieve their goal of outlawing all abortion worldwide.

181 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:18:05am
182 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:18:35am

re: #172 darthstar

Justin Bieber arrested for DUI

Ha…nice!

As for as Bieber, watch the little punk’s handlers turn this into some kind of bad-boy street cred thing.

I don’t know his stuff, but isn’t he all pure pop stuff? Every time I see him in images on the ‘net he continually adds more tats, athletic wear, chains and flat brim hats trying to look like a rapper. How the hell does anyone singing ‘baby baby’ pop stuff think he is ever going to have hip hop/rapper street cred?

Aside…not that I understand the whole street cred thing anyway. I just wish that would all change back into some motown/philly like soul, fusion jazz, and soulful blues or something. Put some melody back into it, back off the bass and beat and mellow the hell out. It might do a lot of good for everyone.

(Get your loud crap off my lawn!)

183 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:19:13am

re: #180 Pie-onist Overlord

This is what happens when FReepers achieve their goal of outlawing all abortion worldwide.

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Yeah, like they cared so much about those CAR kids in the first place except as converts.

184 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:19:20am

re: #171 geoffm33

Pearson was put on paid administrative leave from the South Street Elementary School, where she works as a special-needs assistant, after someone sent the district a package containing a sample of the dozens of semi-explicit modeling photos that Pearson has posed for

Now there’s some editorializing in a news story. WTF does semi-explicit mean to that reporter? I checked her photos. Most are PG-14.

185 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:19:22am

re: #175 Flounder

Bieber vid

When are they going to revoke this idiots passport and deport his dumb ass?

186 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:20:14am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Bieber is a poser. That is all.

187 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:23:07am

Morning local news-
Our drought and very warm winter is impacting biology in the mountains. Bears are waking up and coming out of hibernation. In January. Plants are sprouting new growth that could be frozen off in a cold snap or just die or be stunted from a lack of water. And short days,

Just another unintended experiment in climate.

188 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:24:01am

re: #163 ObserverArt

Need we talk about some of the fantastic Porsche accidents that have claimed some Hollywood types.

That is exactly what I was thinking about. Those cars have way too much power for Joe Schmoe who has an extra few hundred grand to burn.

I’m all for extra licensing for supercars. Less death, less twisted beautiful cars.

189 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:24:23am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Bubble-gum pop I believe. Didn’t know he was getting inked up. That’s forward thinking on his part.

190 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:24:30am
191 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:24:58am

re: #185 Bubblehead II

When are they going to revoke this idiots passport and deport his dumb ass?

re: #186 wheat-dogghazi

Bieber is a poser. That is all.

Agreed.

But it just drives me mad that somehow they make so damn much money and real artists struggle so.

Welcome to the world. Nothing new I know. Sigh.

192 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:27:10am

re: #190 simoom

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Watch out Knoller, Greenwald will be coming for your ass.

193 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:27:42am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi

She’s a teacher’s aide for elementary school special ed students. I doubt any of them cruise modelmayhem to ogle at the photos. (Well, maybe 6th graders might.)

There are more relevant grounds to dismiss or furlough a teacher. Posing semi-nude shouldn’t be one of them.

Exactly. And this town in MA gave Scott Brown 60% of the vote in 2010. In 2012 Warren narrowly beat him (51-49).


re: #184 wheat-dogghazi

Now there’s some editorializing in a news story. WTF does semi-explicit mean to that reporter? I checked her photos. Most are PG-14.

Semi Explicit = Bum + Cleavage.

Oh and she was photographed with another semi-explicit female!

194 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:27:59am

re: #185 Bubblehead II

When are they going to revoke this idiots passport and deport his dumb ass?

If he came from our southern bordering country he would have been kicked out by now.

195 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:28:03am

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

Explain to me how desperate women are just going to carry a fetus to term and give birth when they can no longer LEGALLY obtain abortions.

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Apples and oranges, ma’am. One can be against registration of firearms while also opposing restrictions on abortion.

196 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:28:25am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Ha…nice!

As for as Bieber, watch the little punk’s handlers turn this into some kind of bad-boy street cred thing.

I don’t know his stuff, but isn’t he all pure pop stuff? Every time I see him in images on the ‘net he continually adds more tats, athletic wear, chains and flat brim hats trying to look like a rapper. How the hell does anyone singing ‘baby baby’ pop stuff think he is ever going to have hip hop/rapper street cred?

Aside…not that I understand the whole street cred thing anyway. I just wish that would all change back into some motown/philly like soul, fusion jazz, and soulful blues or something. Put some melody back into it, back off the bass and beat and mellow the hell out. It might do a lot of good for everyone.

(Get your loud crap off my lawn!)

Actually, I don’t see any of the hip-hop generation (who all just seem to want to just be rich) with the social attitude of someone like Marvin Gaye. It’s not about politics so much with them as it is just about bitching. And most of them should just wish they had his talent. Love his music still.

Youtube Video

197 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:29:08am
198 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:30:24am

Greets and saluts from the nearly frozen tundra of the NYC metro area. It’s apparently colder here in the NYC metro area than it was in much of Alaska. Weird how that works.

Meanwhile, on the firearms front, statistics out of NJ shows that there’s a limit as to what NJ (or NY or CT) can do to reduce firearms use in crimes or suicides, when nearby states or states down I95 have such lax laws that anyone can get their hands on guns.


It once again speaks to how most firearm crimes and suicides are committed with handguns, not long barreled guns, let alone AR-15s.

199 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:32:08am

re: #197 geoffm33

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I worked in Fitchburg in the late 70’s/ early 80’s. I hope it wasn’t any of THOSE teachers aides!!!!!

200 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:32:39am

re: #198 lawhawk

Wait, you mean that Virginia is the Russian Army to the American criminal: arms dealer and trainer extraordinaire?

My surprise, let me show you it…

201 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:35:04am

re: #198 lawhawk

Thank you for that last.

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:35:17am

re: #200 Schadenboner

Wait, you mean that Virginia is the Russian Army to the American criminal: arms dealer and trainer extraordinaire?

My surprise, let me show you it…

Yep. You respect and allow their loose gun purchase laws, while they rail and ignore your laws regarding same-sex marriage.
//

203 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:36:52am

More takeovers being attempted.

In Ivano-Frankivsk region captured the governor’s office. Zhytomyr is an attempt, there’s photo

204 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:36:56am

re: #182 ObserverArt

As for as Bieber, watch the little punk’s handlers turn this into some kind of bad-boy street cred thing.

Don’t think so
That’s not his target audience (read ,,, $$$$$$$$$)
What they most likely will do is hustle him into some boutique rehab facility, come out with statements about how contrite he is and that he’ll accept whatever punishment the system hands out (meanwhile, making backroom deals for probation and community service)

205 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:37:52am

Justin Bieber isn’t the only Canadian screw-up in the news today:

Mayor Ford appears drunk in latest video

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford appears incoherent in a new video where he rants about the city’s chief of police.

206 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:37:58am
207 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:39:31am

re: #202 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. You respect and allow their loose gun purchase laws, while they rail and ignore your laws regarding same-sex marriage.
//

Federalism! States Rights! ARGLE BLARGLE RAAAGGHHHHHH!

208 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:39:34am
209 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:39:57am

re: #194 b.d.

If he came from our southern bordering country he would have been kicked out by now.

Sadly, you’re probably correct.

210 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:42:21am
211 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:43:18am
212 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:45:16am

This might be NSFW; full frontal male nudity.

213 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:46:29am

re: #210 lawhawk

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Well, hell, they had 35 yrs to spend it all.

214 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:46:49am

re: #200 Schadenboner

Wait, you mean that Virginia is the Russian Army to the American criminal: arms dealer and trainer extraordinaire?

My surprise, let me show you it…

It’s like how folks living outside of Chicago like to point and snicker at how gun laws are “doing nothing” about gun crime, ignoring that there’s no wall and security checkpoints at the city limits where people wishing to enter must be checked to ensure they’re in compliance with city ordinances.

215 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:47:09am

re: #210 lawhawk

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35 years ago
guess there’s no statute of limitations
the connection to the heist by the other four men - who were not identified - is not yet known since an indictment is under seal.

The men are expected to be arraigned in Brooklyn Federal Court this afternoon.
Will this be in open (to the public) court, or will we still not know what was in the indictment after todays court proceedings??

216 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:48:46am
217 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:50:36am

re: #213 Justanotherhuman

Well, hell, they had 35 yrs to spend it all.

James “Jimmy the Gent” Burke, wasn’t spending much! He was in prison since 1982 where he died in ‘96,

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:52:03am
219 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:52:33am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s National Pie Day!

March 14 already?

220 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:53:08am

re: #215 sattv4u2

35 years ago
guess there’s no statute of limitations
the connection to the heist by the other four men - who were not identified - is not yet known since an indictment is under seal.

The men are expected to be arraigned in Brooklyn Federal Court this afternoon.
Will this be in open (to the public) court, or will we still not know what was in the indictment after todays court proceedings??

For the robbery there is. For the murders that followed to cover it up, nope

Violent deaths of heist associates[edit]

When Jimmy Burke realized that the robbery had netted $6 million, three times the amount that he expected, he knew that a robbery of this magnitude would attract the intense attention of the police at every level (local, state, and federal), causing a lot of problems for everyone involved as well as organized crime in New York in general. Burke became increasingly concerned that there were too many witnesses who knew of his involvement, and too many who became greedy once learning the true amount of money stolen in the heist.
When Jimmy Burke realized that Edwards’ failure to properly dispose of the van had allowed the police to catch on to his crew, he resolved to kill anyone who could implicate him in the heist. The first to be murdered, just 7 days after the heist, would be Edwards - shot and killed in his apartment on December 18, 1978 by Tommy DeSimone and Angelo Sepe.[2] This was the first in a series of players, or their acquaintances, who were murdered after the heist at Burke’s orders:[4][5]

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:53:48am

re: #219 Schadenboner

March 14 already?

No, that would be Pi Day.

222 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:54:13am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s National Pie Day!

What’s in the oven today to celebrate?

And if you do make one…post pictures so we can all drool!

223 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:55:19am

re: #220 Bubblehead II

For the robbery there is. For the murders that followed to cover it up, nope

Yup

#217

Thats wht Burke was in prison for

224 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:56:16am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, that would be Pi Day.

Pie? Pi? There’s just no end to either of them.

225 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:56:30am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

226 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:58:46am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s National Pie Day!

YAY!

So what pie should I bake in honor?
APPLE PIE.

227 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:59:31am

re: #226 Pie-onist Overlord

YAY!

So what pie should I bake in honor?
APPLE PIE.

Why do you hate love America?

228 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:00:02am
229 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:01:22am

Speaking of pies…

The Four & Twenty Blackbirds Pie Book: Uncommon Recipes from the Celebrated Brooklyn Pie Shop

amazon.com

Note that these sisters were originally from S Dakota…

230 Flounder  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:03:02am

re: #226 Pie-onist Overlord

With crumb topping!?

231 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:03:25am
232 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:06:54am

Murder suicide suspected in the death of three people on the base at Fort Hood. The soldier had just returned from deployment overseas.

233 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:09:30am
234 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:12:29am

re: #233 darthstar

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I remember doing “Doors for Gore” with her back in 2000 on the South Side of Milwaukee. Good times, bad outcomes.

235 Flounder  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:13:02am

One down, one to go, guilty plea in deathray scheme.

My “neighbor” (as the crow flies) remains:

Crawford, of Providence in Saratoga County, pleaded not guilty Wednesday before Magistrate Judge Christian Hummel at an arraignment on a three-count indictment handed up last week. It accuses the alleged KKK member of attempting to produce and use a radiological device, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction and distribution of information relating to weapons.

236 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:13:50am

re: #233 darthstar

Says the liberal. Hope she’s still full of humor when Scott Walker is reelected and Pat Quinn goes down in defeat in Illinois.

237 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:13:57am

re: #231 darthstar

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SC woman charged with stabbing husband with a ceramic squirrel

A South Carolina woman was held on a domestic abuse charge for allegedly stabbing her common-law husband with a decorative ceramic squirrel when he came home late on Christmas Eve without any beer.

*snip*

The condition of the squirrel wasn’t reported.

238 darthstar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:16:35am

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

Says the liberal. Hope she’s still full of humor when Scott Walker is reelected and Pat Quinn goes down in defeat in Illinois.

You say ‘liberal’ like it’s a bad thing.

239 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:16:40am

re: #237 Bubblehead II

SC woman charged with stabbing husband with a ceramic squirrel

A South Carolina woman was held on a domestic abuse charge for allegedly stabbing her common-law husband with a decorative ceramic squirrel when he came home late on Christmas Eve without any beer.

*snip*

The condition of the squirrel wasn’t reported.

SQUIRREL! The story is just a distraction. :)

240 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:16:50am

Some of the nuttier #AskSnowden Q’s from the past hour:

241 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:17:22am

re: #238 darthstar

You say ‘liberal’ like it’s a bad thing.

Not evil just wrong.

242 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:18:41am

re: #240 simoom

These two are actually decent, which I suppose means they’re unlikely to be preselected:

243 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:19:39am

re: #240 simoom

Conspiracy theories du jour.

244 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:21:11am

re: #242 simoom

I want to know if he seriously covered himself and his laptop with a pillowcase to avoid detection. That was in one of the first articles about his Hong Kong sojourn.

245 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:25:09am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi

I want to know if he seriously covered himself and his laptop with a pillowcase to avoid detection. That was in one of the first articles about his Hong Kong sojourn.

I thought it was pillows. Pillowcases wouldn’t be nearly thick enough, doncha know. : )

246 piratedan  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:26:32am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Not evil just wrong.

yeah because Conservatives have the best interests of Americans in mind… ////

247 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:27:35am

Some folks may have gotten a serious eye twitch from the Norweigan uniforms for the Sochi games, but the US opening ceremony outfit is enough to give someone a headache and suggests that Ralph Lauren couldn’t decide what to put on the outfit, so he put everything:


At least they’re made in the USA.

248 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:27:59am

re: #240 simoom

Some of the nuttier #AskSnowden Q’s from the past hour:

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You’re tuned to the Art Bell show.

249 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:28:41am

Mornin’ Lizards. Still in the deep freeze around here, with no relief in sight.

I found this on 24/7 Wall St: States with the best and worst schools.

Would it surprise any of you to know that 11 of the 11 best states voted for Obama in 2012, and 9 of the 11 worst voted for Romney? Because it doesn’t surprise me in the least.

250 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:29:53am

re: #249 Ian G.

Mornin’ Lizards. Still in the deep freeze around here, with no relief in sight.

I found this on 24/7 Wall St: States with the best and worst schools.

Would it surprise any of you to know that 11 of the 11 best states voted for Obama in 2012, and 9 of the 11 worst voted for Romney? Because it doesn’t surprise me in the least.

No relief? Argh. That sucks. 9F here. High of 28. High of 61 on Saturday. :D

251 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:29:55am

HAARP! ANCIENT ALIENS! NEW WORLD ORDER! BOHEMIAN GROVE! CHEMTRAILS! BILDERBERGERS!


IS THE REASON YOU’RE NOT TELLING US ABOUT THESE BECAUSE YOU ARE PART OF THE GROUP AND SENT HERE AS SOME SORT OF DECOY?

A DECOY WOULD DENY ALL OF THIS BTW.

252 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:30:04am

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

Pat Quinn goes down in defeat in Illinois.

We both know there is little chance Quinn will lose…and if Brady gets the nomination to run against him again you won’t be voting anyway:

littlegreenfootballs.com

253 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:33:07am

re: #248 Gus

You’re tuned to the Art Bell show.

Exactly! The kind of stuff Snowden and Greenwald spout is only a few degrees removed from the worldwide conspiracies the Art Bell/Alex Jones crowd spouts. Instead of aliens, reptilians and the Illuminati, we have the NSA and the evil, monolithic US government.

They’re all out to get us!

254 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:34:20am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Not evil just wrong.

And backing a single party because of ideology, even when they are wrong is wrong too.

255 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:35:57am
256 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:36:11am

HURR HURR!!!!11!!

257 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:36:26am
258 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:37:07am

re: #252 bratwurst

There’s a good chance Quinn will lose, I’d say. He’s flummoxed from crisis to crisis and he’s not very popular. Illinois is in a bad way and Quinn is not the man to lead it to better places. Republicans need to make that case then explain why their man is better. Done right, they should have a good chance.

259 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:38:10am

re: #255 Gus

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Resisting arrest (albeit, non-violently), DUI, drag racing, and an expired license?

Yep, the Beebster is in deep doo-doo. Granted, he can likely buy his way out of said doo-doo far better than most folks, but he’s still in trouble.

260 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:38:56am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

There’s a good chance Quinn will lose, I’d say. He’s flummoxed from crisis to crisis and he’s not very popular. Illinois is in a bad way and Quinn is not the man to lead it to better places. Republicans need to make that case then explain why their man is better. Done right, they should have a good chance.

Fortunately, they’re more likely to offer a new definition of rape and call for the elimination of the minimum wage.

261 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:39:25am

re: #247 lawhawk

Some folks may have gotten a serious eye twitch from the Norweigan uniforms for the Sochi games, but the US opening ceremony outfit is enough to give someone a headache and suggests that Ralph Lauren couldn’t decide what to put on the outfit, so he put everything:

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At least they’re made in the USA.

Blocky bullshit design. Ugh. Looks like it came off a bed.

262 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:39:54am
263 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:40:12am

re: #260 Decatur Deb

Illinois is not Texas, and I can tell you they’ll do neither of those.

264 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:40:48am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

Resisting arrest (albeit, non-violently), DUI, drag racing, and an expired license?

Yep, the Beebster is in deep doo-doo. Granted, he can likely buy his way out of said doo-doo far better than most folks, but he’s still in trouble.

Ah, he’ll get off with community service and a fine. Consider all the shit Lindsay Lohan has done, and she’s free as a bird now. (She came to Shanghai just last week, and lost her laptop at the airport. Watch for leaked photos on the Internet.)

265 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:40:55am
266 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:42:01am

re: #250 Gus

No relief? Argh. That sucks. 9F here. High of 28. High of 61 on Saturday. :D

Well, it’s supposed to hit 34 on Monday and then….20 (with a low of 1!) on Tuesday.

Godspeed to the nuts who are going to see the NHL stadium series games at Yankee Stadium. Sunday’s Rangers-Devils game is supposed to have a high of 26 (at least it’s during the day). Next Wednesday’s Rangers-Islanders game will probably be in the teens, given that the forecast high is 22, and the game is at night.

267 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:42:03am

re: #265 Gus

Maybe the Biebs could run for mayor somewhere. He’s got the experience.

268 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:42:09am

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

Says the liberal. Hope she’s still full of humor when Scott Walker is reelected and Pat Quinn goes down in defeat in Illinois.

That would be death of Wisconsin. He’s already destroyed thousands of jobs, run a record number of “job creators” aka employers out of state, gutted the states economy and devastated our education system soon to force us to add inefficient short term mines that will create few jobs while destroying the Wolf River & Lake Superior watersheds. If he’s re-elected, the puppet will put the state on the road to becoming the Mississippi of the north - a total 3rd world hell hole

You can pretend he’s a good person, DF. But we saw what these people want for America in the 1890’s. I want a real future for my son instead of what these greedy neo-fascists.

“Capitalism was reasonably content under Hitler, happy under Mussolini, very happy under Franco and delirious under General Pinochet.”
- John Ralston Saul.

Before you dismiss that, look at the man crush the far right has on the strong man of the day - Putin. That’s what they want and what good people need to be opposing.

269 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:42:41am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

Resisting arrest (albeit, non-violently), DUI, drag racing, and an expired license?

Yep, the Beebster is in deep doo-doo. Granted, he can likely buy his way out of said doo-doo far better than most folks, but he’s still in trouble.

Can we at least deport him? Isn’t that SOP for felonious foreign nationals?

270 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:43:11am

In Florida!

271 piratedan  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:43:29am

re: #263 Dark_Falcon

Illinois is not Texas, and I can tell you they’ll do neither of those.

yeah, Illinois, home of famous former R Congressman Joe Walsh, who was known for his reasonableness and working for the greater good…..

272 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:44:19am

Thug!

[Crickets]

273 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:44:20am

In addition to the weather the last three days has also had an on-going IT Keystone Kops serial playing.

We added some new programming designed to run some additional hand-offs between one of our divisions and a bank who will not be named. Two weeks of testing with files and such to verify that the parameters and jobs for processing would be set up correctly. And some connections that could not be tested since the system in question is only Production and does not have a Q/A version. And the modified code and procedures went to Production over the weekend.

Day 4 of being live with the modifications and we have not had a clean run of the revised daily processing yet.
- one analyst missed resetting a job to use a modified parameter (D’oh!)
- a modified bat file failed to purge an old style file name. As a result the not reset job re-ran the old not purged files. (Double d’oh!)
- a contracted firm did not act on a ticket to activate two background jobs for three days.
- the background job processor does not have the right password for the userid running a set of hand-off jobs. Two days of connection failures there once they actually activated the jobs.

Need to do a video call with my boss and see how much of his remaining hair is now missing.

274 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:44:54am

Point out a Fake Quote to a wingnut:
HURR HURR!!!! BUT IT TEH TROOF!!!1!!!

Point out a Fake Quote to a liberal:
Thank you for the correct information! I did not know that!

275 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:45:33am

re: #264 wheat-dogghazi

Ah, he’ll get off with community service and a fine. Consider all the shit Lindsay Lohan has done, and she’s free as a bird now. (She came to Shanghai just last week, and lost her laptop at the airport. Watch for leaked photos on the Internet.)

Heh. Most likely, Bieber will skate - more or less - but there are times when the justice system decides to make an “example” out of someone like him.

Ms. Lohan has done all sorts of wackiness; and yeah, I’m sure there will be some photos of her from her missing laptop on the internet doing all manner of hijinks soon.

276 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:45:40am
277 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:47:27am

re: #269 Ian G.

Can we at least deport him? Isn’t that SOP for felonious foreign nationals?

To the best of my knowledge, deportation is indeed the SOP for ‘felonious foreign nationals’, but then again, Bieber is a celebrity, and a fairly wealthy one at that.

278 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:48:21am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

To the best of my knowledge, deportation is indeed the SOP for ‘felonious foreign nationals’, but then again, Bieber is a celebrity, and a fairly wealthy one at that.

I think it’s time we just replace him with Ozzy Ozbourne.
//

279 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:48:44am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Done right, they should have a good chance.

And there’s the rub…the GOP figured out how to lose this election in 2010 when they hardly lost anything anywhere.

280 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:48:55am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi

A few off the top of my head if I could actually get them answered:

Please detail your relationship with Wikileaks. Is it true WL’s Sarah Harrision flew with you from HK, lived with you at the Sheremetyevo Airport and afterward, and has been aiding in your planning? Is it accurate, as Julian Assange has claimed, that Wikileaks has helped you pay for transportation and lodgings? Have they provided you any other direct or indirect financial support? Are you in contact with Assange?

You now serve on the board of Press Freedom Foundation, along with the journalists who cover you most closely. Also Press Freedom Foundation raises money for Wikileaks, which according to Assange, has been supporting you with their resources. Do you see a conflict of interest in any of this?

In the interest of transparency, estimate the total number of documents you stole.

Glenn Greenwald has long claimed that you’ve distributed your entire document trove, encrypted, to additional people all around the world. Is this true? How many people? Have you shared it with Wikileaks?

Again, for someone who advocates transparency, why have you so far failed to hold a true press conference where you’d be subjected to unpredictable and adversarial questioning?

De Spiegel claims you’ve been living in a “safe house” in Moscow, the location not even known by your closest associates, where Russian security guard you 24 hours a day, and that you’re not allowed to leave without them. Spiegel also said all meetings with you are negotiated through Russian security. Is this true? If so why did you claim to Bart Gellman that you have no agreements or relationship with the Russian gov’t? What exactly are the rules and restrictions you’ve agreed to live under and that are the conditions of your continued asylum?

281 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:49:05am

re: #264 wheat-dogghazi

Ah, he’ll get off with community service and a fine. Consider all the shit Lindsay Lohan has done, and she’s free as a bird now. (She came to Shanghai just last week, and lost her laptop at the airport. Watch for leaked photos on the Internet.)

He’s Canadian so it’s not quite the same thing. Technically he could be deported for his antics, though likely not. Still, Florida is not California and the Sunshine State tends to enforce its laws with less celebrity deference than the Golden State. But you’re still likely right.

282 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:49:50am

re: #249 Ian G.

Mornin’ Lizards. Still in the deep freeze around here, with no relief in sight.

I found this on 24/7 Wall St: States with the best and worst schools.

Would it surprise any of you to know that 11 of the 11 best states voted for Obama in 2012, and 9 of the 11 worst voted for Romney? Because it doesn’t surprise me in the least.

I find it hard to believe that Florida is in the top 10, but can see how AK was in the worst 10. After all, it’s where Sarah Palin skated through her first 12 years.

283 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:51:40am

re: #269 Ian G.

Can we at least deport him? Isn’t that SOP for felonious foreign nationals?

Yes, but if there’s one thing we know very well, it’s that rich white people don’t have to deal with SOP.

See also: ‘Affluenza’, where United States courts determined that straight up killing people doesn’t get you any jail time as long as you’re rich-and-white enough.

284 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:51:45am

re: #280 simoom

All good ones, and not snarky like mine was. Snowden is as sheltered from real journalists as Sarah Palin was. His access to the outside is tightly monitored by any number of agencies.

285 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:52:50am

re: #278 Feline Fearless Leader

I think it’s time we just replace him with Ozzy Ozbourne.
//

Personally, I’d prefer Bruce Dickinson. And the rest of Iron Maiden, for that matter.

Image: ironmaiden.jpg

286 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:54:08am

Bieber makes for a perfect American.

287 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:55:44am

re: #269 Ian G.

Can we at least deport him? Isn’t that SOP for felonious foreign nationals?

We only deport people who don’t have boatloads of money. Bieber will get the Lindsay Lohan treatment because he’s a star.

288 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:56:55am

re: #279 bratwurst

And there’s the rub…the GOP figured out how to lose this election in 2010 when they hardly lost anything anywhere.

That was Brady, and I’ll remind you that Mark Kirk won a state-wide election in the same year. Although it must be admitted that Kirk was greatly helped by his not being anti-abortion, though an even larger factor was the fact that his opponent had run Chicago’s Bright Start program into the ground. This year, Republicans should say that Quinn has helped run the entire state into the ground and that Illinois needs a governor able to stand up to Michael Madigan and the Chicago Machine.

The Land of Lincoln is a place where Lincoln’s party can win in 2014.

Edited.

289 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:58:51am

re: #287 Skip Intro

We only deport people who don’t have boatloads of money. Bieber will get the Lindsay Lohan treatment because he’s a star.

We deported Conrad Black and he’s not poor.

290 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:59:10am
291 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:00:00am

re: #285 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I’d prefer Bruce Dickinson. And the rest of Iron Maiden, for that matter.

Image: ironmaiden.jpg

I propose a compromise: Put Justin Beiber in an iron maiden. x(

292 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:01:04am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

I propose a compromise: Put Justin Beiber in an iron maiden. x(

Heh. EDIT: I thought you’d written “Put Justin Bieber in Iron Maiden”.

My bad, hence my NOPE graphic.

293 Tigger2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:01:04am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Not evil just wrong.

I happen to think you Republicans are wrong.

294 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:01:21am

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

Hopefully enough people like me will see that the Taliban and the Republicans operate in the same portion of the political spectrum.

295 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:03:10am

re: #294 The War TARDIS

Hopefully enough people like me will see that the Taliban and the Republicans operate in the same portion of the political spectrum.

Republicans do not have a problem with the policies of the Taliban, only their particular choice of skydad.

296 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:04:13am

re: #290 lawhawk

That’s a poor-quality Tweet, as it shows a graph without explaining what the graph shows.

297 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:04:43am

re: #295 GunstarGreen

Republicans do not have a problem with the policies of the Taliban, only their particular choice of skydad.

Yet it was a republican president that went after and ousted them in Afghanastan

Funny that

298 gwangung  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:06:11am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Yet it was a republican president that went after and ousted them in Afghanastan

Funny that

Uh, dude, that kinda supports the thesis.

299 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:06:36am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Yes, because they chose the ‘wrong’ skydad.

300 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:07:24am

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

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Heh. EDIT: I thought you’d written “Put Justin Bieber in Iron Maiden”.

My bad, hence my NOPE graphic.

If his role was to spend the entire concert being silent and being chased (and caught?) by Eddy that might be acceptable.

301 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:07:46am

re: #298 gwangung

re: #299 GunstarGreen

So Bush went after the Taliban because they don’t ascribe to Jesus!!

hmmmm,, I (and nobody else) did not know that!!!

302 danarchy  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:08:27am

re: #295 GunstarGreen

Republicans do not have a problem with the policies of the Taliban, only their particular choice of skydad.

Yep, Republicans all are totally cool with gunning down young girls for just trying to get an education.

303 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:08:32am

Wonder why Bush didn’t invade israel!!!

304 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:08:41am

re: #299 GunstarGreen

Yes, because they chose the ‘wrong’ skydad.

No, it was because the Taliban were hosting Al Qaeda, which had just murdered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01.

305 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:09:31am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Yet it was a republican president that went after and ousted them in Afghanastan

Funny that

You don’t go into competition with the Mafia either…


/// well, only half snark.

306 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:09:37am

re: #300 Feline Fearless Leader

If his role was to spend the entire concert being silent and being chased (and caught?) by Eddy that might be acceptable.

lol.

307 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:09:55am

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

No, it was because the Taliban were hosting Al Qaeda, which had just murdered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01.

That was just a cover story!!

308 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:10:26am

OK, I’m lost.

309 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:11:03am

re: #308 Gus

OK, I’m lost.

Is it still possible to do an instrument landing?

310 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:11:57am

No matter what you think of him, can anyone here imagine Ted Cruz ordering this:

Woman in India tells police village head ordered her gang-raped

New Delhi (CNN) — A 20-year-old woman in India has alleged that she was gang-raped by a group of men this week after the head of a village ordered them to do so, police in West Bengal said on Thursday.

The incident allegedly took place Monday in a tribal village in a very remote part of West Bengal, in India’s northeast, police spokesman Prasanta Chowdhury said.

Police have arrested 13 men for questioning in the case, and the alleged victim is undergoing medical treatment in a hospital, Chowdhury said.

Violent crimes against women have been in the spotlight in India since a 23-year-old woman was raped and beaten by several men on a bus in December 2012.

The victim later died in a Singapore hospital. The shocking attack provoked outrage across India, leading to calls for improved safety and treatment of women.

311 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:11:58am

re: #308 Gus

OK, I’m lost.

MAPS FOR SALE ,,,, CAN’T FIND YOUR WAY WITHOUT A MAP ,,,,,

312 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:12:00am

re: #309 Feline Fearless Leader

Is it still possible to do an instrument landing?

Sure but we go around after the first bounce!

313 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:12:18am

re: #309 Feline Fearless Leader

Is it still possible to do an instrument landing?

Have you ever tried to land a tuba???

314 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:12:37am

re: #295 GunstarGreen

Bingo.

Also, Brady is no moderate.

Education
Brady supports replacing the Illinois State Board of Education with a smaller agency that receives half of the current $80 million funding, or $40 million.
Brady believes that intelligent design, which he has described as “in other words, teaching the Bible”, should be taught in public schools, saying that “we should teach the Bible in our schools. One of the basic, fundamental voids we have in our school system is bringing God into the system.” In a follow-up interview, he explained: “I certainly believe that local school boards should have the opportunity to teach kids about the Bible, just as they ought to be able to teach them about the Qur’an.” He added: “I believe in school prayer. I think that local school boards should be able to dictate that they start the day with prayer.”
Brady supports competition in elementary and secondary education and, “either through board action or citizens initiative”, school districts funding the tuition to private schools, at a rate that is, at minimum, what the state provides to the school district.

Employment
Brady supports lowering Illinois’ minimum wage from its current $8.25 per hour to match the federal minimum wage of $7.25. Brady has said that the minimum wage should be controlled by “market-forces”. “I think supply and demand in the marketplace determines the rate of minimum wage. I don’t think governmental intrusion is as effective,” said Brady. Brady has also called for a freeze in the state’s minimum wage until the lower federal rate catches up to that in Illinois.

Death penalty
Brady intended to lift the moratorium on the death penalty if he became governor.

Abortion
Bill Brady self-identifies as pro-life. He supports a ban on all abortions, including in cases of rape and incest. He makes an exception and allows abortion when a mother’s life is at risk. He has also backed legislation allowing pharmacists refuse to dispense emergency contraception.

Same-sex marriage
A week after winning the Republican primary, Brady introduced a proposed state constitutional amendment on February 10, 2010 defining marriage as between “one man and one woman”.The proposed constitutional amendment would also deny validity and recognition to any “uniting of persons of the same sex in a civil union, domestic partnership, or other similar same sex relationship.” Although Brady was originally the main sponsor of the amendment, its chief sponsor is now Illinois State Senator John O. Jones, who became co-sponsor with Brady the week following its submission. Brady has stated that he is “concerned that activist judges could overturn our current law protecting this institution”. Brady has also stated his opposition to civil unions for gay couples on more than one occasion.

Stem cell research
Brady voted against legislation that would authorize state funding for embryonic stem cell research but prohibit human cloning. The legislation passed.

Health insurance
Brady voted against extending parental health insurance to unmarried dependents. The legislation later passed.
Brady co-sponsored SB 908 - Insurance Without Mandated Coverage - in 2003. SB 908 would have allowed insurance providers to offer plans that do not include coverage otherwise mandated in Illinois law. He voted NO on HB 211 in 2003 - Contraceptive Coverage in Private Health Insurance. HB 211, which became law in 2003, required any private insurance plan that covered prescription drugs and devices to also cover FDA approved contraceptive drugs and devices, but expressly states that nothing in it requires the coverage of abortion services.
Brady has called for cuts to the state’s Medicaid program, where he says his proposed forensic audit would reveal fraud, mismanagement and abuse. He also favors switching many Medicaid patients to a managed care system - the type currently administered by many Health Management Organizations (HMOs) - to control the cost of health care.

Drugs
Brady opposes the legalization of marijuana in Illinois.

Gun control
Brady has stated that he is opposed to any further restrictions to the ownership of firearms in Illinois. He is also for legalizing concealed carry, which would allow a law-abiding, licensed Illinois resident to carry a handgun or other weapon in public in a concealed manner.

Taxes
Brady has opposed efforts to raise state sales and income tax rates in Illinois. He favors reducing sales taxes that he claims drive retail jobs and businesses to other states. He favors dedicating a percentage of Illinois revenue to property tax relief and eliminating the estate tax in Illinois.

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:13:34am

re: #314 The War TARDIS

The epitome of GOP moderation.
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316 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:14:12am

re: #308 Gus

OK, I’m lost.

Just keep following the braying, Gus. You’ll reach the local Democratic HQ soon enough that way. Follow the trumpeting to reach the local Republican HQ. ;)

317 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:14:31am

How long until Christie throws Guadagno under the bus?

FBI questions Hoboken mayor’s aides over alleged Sandy relief funds threat: sources

FBI agents have begun questioning witnesses in the investigation into whether New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s aides threatened to cut off Hurricane Sandy relief money to Hoboken unless the city’s mayor backed a billion-dollar development project, three sources with direct knowledge of the probe told NBC News on Wednesday.

318 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:15:11am

re: #314 The War TARDIS

I didn’t say he was a moderate, I said he lost in 2010.

319 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:15:34am

re: #302 danarchy

Give it a decade.

You already have Republicans like the guy on Duck Dynasty making comments about how old women should be at marriage. Within 3 years, we will hear from Republicans how women don’t need an education, because they belong at home.

MB, Republicans, Taliban, BJP all look the same to me.

320 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:16:39am

re: #319 The War TARDIS

Give it a decade.

You already have Republicans like the guy on Duck Dynasty making comments about how old women should be at marriage. Within 3 years, we will hear from Republicans how women don’t need an education, because they belong at home.

MB, Republicans, Taliban, BJP all look the same to me.

Have they developed a close resemblance to any particular Dr Who villain in your mind yet as well?

321 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:17:08am

re: #249 Ian G.

Mornin’ Lizards. Still in the deep freeze around here, with no relief in sight.

I found this on 24/7 Wall St: States with the best and worst schools.

Would it surprise any of you to know that 11 of the 11 best states voted for Obama in 2012, and 9 of the 11 worst voted for Romney? Because it doesn’t surprise me in the least.

And once again, Mississippi is #1 on a “bad” list. What is it with this state, anyway?

322 simoom  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:17:52am

Wow:

Australian FM lashes Snowden ‘treachery’ on US visit

Washington (AFP) - Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop lashed out Wednesday at Edward Snowden, accusing the US intelligence leaker of “unprecedented treachery” after he unveiled Canberra’s efforts to spy on Indonesia.

Bishop praised cooperation with Washington and reserved harsh words for Snowden, whose revelations led Indonesia to halt work with Australia to stem people smuggling, a key priority for new conservative Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

Shortly before a meeting with US Vice President Joe Biden in Washington, Bishop said Snowden “continues to shamefully betray his nation while skulking in Russia.

“This represents unprecedented treachery; he is no hero,” she added, in a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

“Snowden claims his actions were driven by a desire for transparency, but in fact they strike at the heart of the collaboration between those nations in world affairs that stand at the forefront of protecting human freedom,” she said.

323 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:18:30am

If people in southern and eastern Ukraine don’t support the Euromaidans, the situation could split the country. However, this is the Crimea parliament, and the Google translation sounds directly out of Moscow, at least to me. They wind up tagging the entire lot of protestors as “far-right neo-Nazi gangs”.


“Every day confrontation organized opposition in the central squares and streets of the capital of Ukraine , brings new evidence that the country’s slide to disaster is the main purpose of the whole “Maidan” technology. Previously tested in selected countries in Asia and Africa, methods of overthrowing the legitimate government purposefully planted on Ukrainian soil.

“So yesterday in one of the protesters illegally occupied premises in the House of Trade Unions Kiev constituent assembly so-called ” People’s Parliament of Ukraine .” In this ” operetta ” structure includes MPs from the opposition , individual deputies and some mythical ” representatives ” of the local authorities . Was adopted hastily penned Declaration and set goals and objectives of this dubious enterprise. Among them, the creation of power units , and only then “the protection of the Constitution , human rights and freedoms .” Here, however , the question arises how to defend the Constitution , in flagrant violation of its essence , assigning , and not to give legal representation elections and legislative functions.

“Doubt that the initiators of another illegal action not understand unconstitutional steps taken by the usurpation of power , is not necessary. Just the founding fathers of the terrorist coup in Ukraine took the puppet structure with which bypassing legally elected authorities will directly build their communication those from abroad for their own political and economic order inspired tragic events in Kiev.

“Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea in full accordance with its powers enshrined in the legislation of Ukraine , once again expresses its strong protest against the escalation of the crisis in the social and political sphere of the state , the responsibility for the consequences of which lies entirely on the opposition political forces and their satellites of the number of far-right neo-Nazi gangs .

“We urge our voters , all Crimeans who cherish the ideals of justice, democracy and equality , to give a rebuff attempts unconstitutional coup and seize power by radical nationalists . We warn presumptuous politicians that in the territory of our country , it is and will act solely the laws of our state , one of which is the Constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. All solutions “Maidan” unconstitutional bodies , including on any early elections on our peninsula have no power and no one will fail.”

324 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:19:30am
325 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:20:40am

re: #324 Gus

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326 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:21:52am

re: #322 simoom

Wow:

Australian FM lashes Snowden ‘treachery’ on US visit

That will make Julie Bishop the target of some nasty Greenwald/Sirota hate-spewing later today. Since she’s a woman, maybe Glenn will decide to go wingnut and call her a “shameless surveillance state slut”.

/spits

327 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:22:30am

re: #320 Feline Fearless Leader

There hasn’t been a villain like that in Doctor Who that I can remember off the top of my head.

328 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:22:54am

re: #324 Gus

He still looks like he’s 14.

329 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:23:14am

Don’t forget the NY Times’ magazine Planet Hillary cover…

Also Ralph Lauren’s US Olympic team uniforms…

330 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:23:37am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We are oh holy one, we are.

331 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:24:52am

332 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:25:08am

Oops.

333 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:27:03am

A funny for anyone who has done any programming:

334 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:28:19am

re: #163 ObserverArt

I’m not sure if it is still in effect, but at a time in auto racing you had to work your way up in smaller classes of cars until the FIA granted you a super license. A super license allowed you to go to the high-powered stuff to race. And if you were incompetent or a danger to others on the track, they would pull your license.

It’s still like that.

335 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:28:39am

re: #327 The War TARDIS

There hasn’t been a villain like that in Doctor Who that I can remember off the top of my head.

The Silence, perhaps?

336 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:29:41am

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

And once again, Mississippi is #1 on a “bad” list. What is it with this state, anyway?

The wikipedia page on the state can supply a lot of background on that. Here are a few sentences in particular:

Mississippi’s rank as one of the poorest states is related to its dependence on cotton agriculture before and after the Civil War, late development of its frontier bottomlands in the Mississippi Delta, repeated natural disasters of flooding in the late 19th and early 20th century requiring massive capital investment in levees, heavy capital investment to ditch and drain the bottomlands, and slow development of railroads to link bottomland towns and river cities. In addition, when conservative white Democrats regained control, they passed the 1890 constitution that discouraged corporate industrial development in favor of rural agriculture, a legacy that would slow the state’s progress for years.

337 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:29:46am

re: #335 Targetpractice

True. Though that was a splinter…..which is exactly what I was talking about. All of them are radical splinters.

338 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:30:45am

re: #337 The War TARDIS

True. Though that was a splinter…..which is exactly what I was talking about. All of them are radical splinters.

Not so much as a splinter as a crack.

//

339 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:32:46am
340 geoffm33  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:33:13am

re: #324 Gus


WAIT! Miley Cyrus was arrested too?

341 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:33:23am
342 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:33:31am

re: #339 Pie-onist Overlord

Why would that be pleasing?

343 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:35:11am

Joint statement of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia regarding the situation in Ukraine.

msz.gov.pl

344 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:35:42am

Illinois TPGOP:

GOP House Candidate Says God Created Autism, Dementia And Tornadoes To Punish Gays

talkingpointsmemo.com

Might not be ‘mainstream’ Illinois.

345 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:35:42am

re: #342 GunstarGreen

Why would that be pleasing?

Schadenfreude.

346 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:36:19am

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

We deported Conrad Black and he’s not poor.

A non-celebrity convicted felon is a little different from a punk DUI/mouthy music “star”.

He’ll get the minimum punishment possible, just like Lohan. Then he’ll do it again, and again, and again, with similar results.

That’s just the way things work in the USA.

347 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:36:56am

BBL

348 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:37:19am


“It’s ironic that many of those who are kind of the modern, welfare-state proponents, they quote or they harken back to Martin Luther King as if he was some proponent of civil rights, and he was not,” Peroutka said.
349 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:37:46am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Not evil just wrong.

You may be one of the very few conservatives that think that way.

350 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:38:20am

re: #340 geoffm33

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WAIT! Miley Cyrus was arrested too?

Cover photo for his next album!!

351 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:39:35am

re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!11!!

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So, he’s saying the ends justify the means?

352 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:39:58am
353 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:39:59am

Sadly, our librul MSM will now obsess over Bieber for the next 96 hours instead of covering real topics.

354 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:41:00am

re: #353 Dr. Matt

Sadly, our librul MSM will now obsess over Bieber for the next 96 hours instead of covering real topics.

Which is exactly why I didn’t link it at 7 this morning.

355 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:41:04am

re: #353 Dr. Matt

Sadly, our librul MSM will now obsess over Bieber for the next 96 hours instead of covering real topics.

So much for events in the Ukraine finally getting noticed here.

356 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:42:24am

re: #355 Lidane

So much for events in the Ukraine finally getting noticed here.

A lot of Lizards are keeping an eye on it. The real fireworks might start when the “truce” expires at 8 pm local time in Kiev, one hour ahead of me on CET.

357 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:43:30am

re: #344 Decatur Deb

Illinois TPGOP:

GOP House Candidate Says God Created Autism, Dementia And Tornadoes To Punish Gays

talkingpointsmemo.com

Might not be ‘mainstream’ Illinois.

She’s one of several running for a nomination and she won’t get it. Kooks sometimes seek office, but unless they are nominated they shouldn’t be held against the party.

358 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:43:37am

Way to troll the wingnuts, White House!

359 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:44:15am

That school at the top looks like the elementary school I went to, except it was always too smoggy to see the mountains in Southern California.

360 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:44:20am

re: #268 William Barnett-Lewis

Ah, another fan of Mr. Saul’s.

That reminds me, my copy of The Doubter’s Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense is getting worn out. Must get a new one.

361 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:45:24am

re: #356 Dr Lizardo

A lot of Lizards are keeping an eye on it. The real fireworks might start when the “truce” expires at 8 pm local time in Kiev, one hour ahead of me on CET.

I wasn’t talking about LGF. We tend to keep up with events. I was talking more about the US. Our pathetic excuse for a press will now focus on a spoiled rich kid instead of real news.

362 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:46:12am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Way to troll the wingnuts, White House!

Oh, that will be fun. Heh.

363 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:46:58am

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

She’s one of several running for a nomination and she won’t get it. Kooks sometimes seek office, but unless they are nominated they shouldn’t be held against the party.

So we can hold all the crazy that the GOP *does* nominate against the party? Good. Because there’s plenty of it.

364 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:47:39am

re: #359 wrenchwench

That school at the top looks like the elementary school I went to, except it was always too smoggy to see the mountains in Southern California.

I thought it looked a lot like my junior high back around the same time as that school.

365 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:47:54am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Way to troll the wingnuts, White House!

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Splodey heads on #lnyhbt

366 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:48:56am
367 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:49:04am

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

She’s one of several running for a nomination and she won’t get it. Kooks sometimes seek office, but unless they are nominated they shouldn’t be held against the party.

Why not? The party encourages all kinds of nuts/losers/reactionaries. Look at how the tea party got started.

368 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:49:15am

re: #361 Lidane

I wasn’t talking about LGF. We tend to keep up with events. I was talking more about the US. Our pathetic excuse for a press will now focus on a spoiled rich kid instead of real news.

Fair enough. Hell, even Matt Drudge is MIA on what’s going on in Ukraine.

369 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:52:28am
370 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:52:45am

I could live with this:

371 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:53:13am

America’s Spies Want Justin Bieber Dead - BuzzFeed

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372 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:53:17am

re: #369 wrenchwench

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THEY’RE LIKE HAPPY LITTLE BUDDHAS!

373 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:53:39am

More Batshit Crazy from the Gunshine State

Florida GOP candidate defends call to hang Obama by comparing him to George Zimmerman

Republican candidate for Florida’s state house defended his call for the hanging of President Barack Obama. According to Tampa’s Fox Channel 13, Joshua Black persisted in his insistence that Obama is a war criminal and a traitor who should be executed by “whatever method is applicable for the situation.”

[…]

I know that we don’t use hanging as a method of execution here in the U.S. anymore, so be it,” Black told Channel 13 in a Walmart parking lot interview. “Whatever method is applicable for the situation, I just want justice to be served.”

[…]

“When George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, he got a trial. And whatever was going to happen came out of that trial. President Obama kills a 15year-old, somebody else’s teenage son, and gets no trial,” said Black.

Chris Latvala, who is running to represent the neighboring 67th district called Black an “embarrassment” and dubbed him the “loser of the week.”

374 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:53:44am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

CNN trends:
Bieber
Jonah Hill got only $60k for his role in Wolf of Wall Street (but got an Oscar nod!)
NSA
Fetus of pregnant, brain-dead wife is ‘distinctly abnormal’
University of Oklahoma shooting was a false alarm.
Iran nuke deal
Al Qaeda urging unified front in Syria
The Lufthansa heist arrests
Health insurance
Ex-NFLer enters guilty plea on manslaughter.

What’s not on that list?
Kiev
Thailand
The other university shooting at Purdue that was a confirmed instance.

Amazing how skewed priorities we have (or CNN chooses to promote, skewing our knowledge of events).

375 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:55:50am

re: #361 Lidane

I wasn’t talking about LGF. We tend to keep up with events. I was talking more about the US. Our pathetic excuse for a press will now focus on a spoiled rich kid instead of real news.

There has been some reporting.

NBC News.

Fox

CNN

But yeah, the beib’s antics have pretty much grabbed the headlines.

376 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:56:00am

re: #340 geoffm33

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WAIT! Miley Cyrus was arrested too?

I do NOT want to see Justin Bieber naked on a wrecking ball. Of course, I didn’t really want to see Miley naked on one either.

377 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:56:37am

Thanks Canada!

Where’s b_sharp?

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378 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:56:40am

re: #374 lawhawk

CNN trends:
Bieber
Jonah Hill got only $60k for his role in Wolf of Wall Street (but got an Oscar nod!)
NSA
Fetus of pregnant, brain-dead wife is ‘distinctly abnormal’
University of Oklahoma shooting was a false alarm.
Iran nuke deal
Al Qaeda urging unified front in Syria
The Lufthansa heist arrests
Health insurance
Ex-NFLer enters guilty plea on manslaughter.

What’s not on that list?
Kiev
Thailand
The other university shooting at Purdue that was a confirmed instance.

Amazing how skewed priorities we have (or CNN chooses to promote, skewing our knowledge of events).

A significant insurrection is occurring in a European country, and CNN and most of the Western media blithely ignore it.

379 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:56:51am

re: #370 Lidane

I could live with this:

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Celine Dion? Christ, the Germans got better terms at Versailles.

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380 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:56:52am

re: #370 Lidane

I could live with this:

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Cheese grater or wringer washer? Which shall I use on my gonads?

Decisions, decisions.

381 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:57:31am

Quick Justin!

Grow what beard you can, put on some cammo and start quoting bible verses, it’s your only hope.

382 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:57:52am
383 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:58:59am

re: #371 Gus

America’s Spies Want Justin Bieber Dead - BuzzFeed

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NSA: Who is this Justin Bieber and why should we care?

GOP (Issa): We need to investigate why the NSA doesn’t know who Bieber is.

NSA anonymous agent: We know who he is, but don’t care.

GOP/Dudebros: Aha!!! So they’ve been tracking him with DRONEZ!

NSA: Wait. What?

GOP/Dudebros: Gotcha! We knew you were tracking everyone with metadata. This is proof that you’re tracking Americans with surveillance data.

NSA: Ummm… we were watching all this on TMZ. Best damned investigative journalists out there.

GOP/Dudebros: So, wait, now TMZ is part of your surveillance tactics?

NSA: SMH

(descend into conspiracy madness - even more than already).

384 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:59:07am

re: #373 Dr. Matt

More Batshit Crazy from the Gunshine State

Note that Chris Latvala, who has forcefully called out Joshua Black, is also a Republican. And I think more Florida Republicans agree with Latvala than with Black.

Be that as it may, will folks here at least concede that Chris Latvala is both sane and Republican?

385 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:00:22am
386 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:00:51am

Why is America becoming Canada’s dumping ground? Dion, Cruz, and now Bieber. Wasn’t it bad enough when they inflicted Shatner on us?

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387 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:01:05am

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

Note that Chris Latvala, who has forcefully called out Joshua Black, is also a Republican. And I think more Florida Republicans agree with Latvala than with Black.

Be that as it may, will folks here at least concede that Chris Latvala is both sane and Republican?

Even Laura Ingraham refudiated [sic] Black. Apparently there is a Batshit Crazy that is too Batshit Crazy for the rest of the Batshit Crazy.

388 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:01:42am

re: #383 lawhawk

What about David Sirota? He’s a major dudebro, yet his campaign work was for the Democrats and his politics are still left-of-center.

389 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:01:50am

re: #379 Targetpractice

Celine Dion? Christ, the Germans got better terms at Versailles.

//

Celine is a Vegas act now. Her damage is minimal. We can contain it. ;)

390 Mattand  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:02:02am

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

Note that Chris Latvala, who has forcefully called out Joshua Black, is also a Republican. And I think more Florida Republicans agree with Latvala than with Black.

Be that as it may, will folks here at least concede that Chris Latvala is both sane and Republican?

I’d have to see Latvala’s track record on other stuff first. Make sure there’s no “Obamacare is slavery” and “Evolution is false” horseshit.

391 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:02:32am

Was it over when the Canadians bomber Pearl Harbor?!?!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

392 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:02:35am

re: #389 Lidane

Celine is a Vegas act now. Her damage is minimal. We can contain it. ;)

We said the same thing about Saddam.

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393 Mattand  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:03:10am

re: #390 Mattand

As far as the rep for being insane, the GOP has only itself to blame.

394 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:04:08am

re: #377 Gus

Thanks Canada!

Where’s b_sharp?

//

Shredding his collection of Beiber CD’s !!

395 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:04:29am

re: #390 Mattand

I’d have to see Latvala’s track record on other stuff first. Make sure there’s no “Obamacare is slavery” and “Evolution is false” horseshit.

According to the Breitards: Moderate Republican Chris Latvala Wants to Purge Conservatives From GOP

Of course, the Breitards label everyone a ‘RINO’ unless they are right of Palin.

396 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:05:04am

Shouldn’t there be a return policy on celebrities? Keep them until they start acting up, then return to the country of origin for store credit or something?

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397 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:06:05am
398 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:08:25am

Eggplant Parm

Labor intensive

(having people over for dinner tonight ,, that’s going to be the appetizer)

That is all

399 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:09:16am

re: #387 Dr. Matt

Even Laura Ingraham refudiated [sic] Black. Apparently there is a Batshit Crazy that is too Batshit Crazy for the rest of the Batshit Crazy.

It’s also that Black thinks Obama should be executed for having Anwar al-Awlakikilled via drone strike, an action that most Republicans support. Joshua Black is not only crazy, but he’s on the wrong side of the issue relative to the GOP.

400 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:10:06am

Always nice when your team lead just says “Fuck it, we’re not doing this bullshit anymore” when you’re looking at 2 days worth of make-work no one cares about.

We had an “improved reporting system” brought in about a year ago, where we had to pull duplicate data to import into its system, but after a few weeks, pretty much everyone stopped using it because it was a pain in the ass to use and we had simpler, more efficient methods everyone knew. Technically, the new system is still in place, we’re just not going to use it anymore.

401 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:11:38am

re: #395 Dr. Matt

According to the Breitards: Moderate Republican Chris Latvala Wants to Purge Conservatives From GOP

Of course, the Breitards label everyone a ‘RINO’ unless they are right of Palin.

According to that article, Lavala has squared off directly against the Breitbarters. That’s worthy of some respect, IMO.

402 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:13:56am

I’m making Apple Pie in honor of National Pie Day but do I want to do the vodka crust?

403 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:14:35am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

According to that article, Lavala has squared off directly against the Breitbarters. That’s worthy of some respect, IMO.

He will quit in frustration and become a Democrat.

404 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:15:55am
405 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:16:54am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

According to that article, Lavala has squared off directly against the Breitbarters. That’s worthy of some respect, IMO.

From what I found Latvala does seem to be a card-carrying “moderate” Republican; an endangered species today. I wish there were more like him.

406 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:18:01am

Naked man humiliated, beaten and stripped by cops ID’d.

Google translation: “Man who are bullied fascists name Michael Gavriliouk he of Self Defense. Where he is not known.”

407 calochortus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:18:03am

re: #402 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m making Apple Pie in honor of National Pie Day but do I want to do the vodka crust?

You know you do. ;)

408 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:19:12am

re: #405 Dr. Matt

From what I found Latvala does seem to be a card-carrying moderate Republican; an endangered species today. I wish there were more like him.

in museums…

409 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:19:17am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

According to that article, Lavala has squared off directly against the Breitbarters. That’s worthy of some respect, IMO.

So basically, he’s a RINO with no chance of wining in today’s GOP.

410 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:19:21am

re: #406 Justanotherhuman

Hey, thanks for your posting on Kiev.

411 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:19:51am

re: #402 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m making Apple Pie in honor of National Pie Day but do I want to do the vodka crust?

Waste of vodka if you ask me

Regular crust with a vodka chaser!! Now THAT”S the ticket!!

412 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:20:48am

re: #411 sattv4u2

Waste of vodka if you ask me

Regular crust with a vodka chaser!! Now THAT”S the ticket!!

That will get you pie-eyed.

RBS

413 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:21:04am

re: #409 Lidane

So basically, he’s a RINO with no chance of wining in today’s GOP.

414 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:21:48am

*sigh*

415 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:25:20am

Right after we get rid of the NSA we can get rid of the Pentagon. Later we can get rid of DHS, FEMA, and then NOAA. Because, libertarian anarchy and something, something.

416 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:27:01am

re: #402 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m making Apple Pie in honor of National Pie Day but do I want to do the vodka crust?

Got chilled vodka? Time to try it!

417 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:27:50am

re: #415 Gus

Right after we get rid of the NSA we can get rid of the Pentagon. Later we can get rid of DHS, FEMA, and then NOAA. Because, libertarian anarchy and something, something.

418 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:28:08am

$5 that whoever claims to be Snowden today picks this question from a member of dudebro roaylty.

419 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:29:09am

re: #416 wrenchwench

Got chilled vodka? Time to try it!

The only vodka that I have is lime-flavored. I don’t know how that will affect the taste of the pie crust. I don’t feel like going out and buy a whole new bottle. It takes months to finish a bottle of vodka, unless my sons come to visit, then it takes all night.

420 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:30:14am

Clearly, it’s all about having the NSA stop collecting data of white males, age 20-40.

421 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:30:22am

BBL

422 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:31:39am
423 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:32:05am

Believe it or not people are shocked that Twitter and the internet relies on data collection.

424 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:32:21am

re: #419 Pie-onist Overlord

The only vodka that I have is lime-flavored. I don’t know how that will affect the taste of the pie crust. I don’t feel like going out and buy a whole new bottle. It takes months to finish a bottle of vodka, unless my sons come to visit, then it takes all night.

Save it for a Key Lime pie. Does that use a regular crust?

425 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:33:49am

re: #423 Gus

Believe it or not people are shocked that Twitter and the internet relies on data collection.

That’s because there are a lot of deeply stupid people in the world.

426 calochortus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:34:57am

re: #422 Kragar

If Obama is enslaving whites, he’s doing a damn poor job of it.
Besides, I thought he was enslaving blacks by making them dependent. Wingnuts need to get their story straight.

427 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:35:06am

Wow.


But let’s focus on an NFL player trash talking after a game and a spoiled rich kid pop star. Or on the plight of the dudebro. You know, things that matter.

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428 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:35:26am

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

Note that Chris Latvala, who has forcefully called out Joshua Black, is also a Republican. And I think more Florida Republicans agree with Latvala than with Black.

Be that as it may, will folks here at least concede that Chris Latvala is both sane and Republican?

He’s still an extremist when it comes to women. He retweeted this:

I can’t appreciate his many other qualities when he thinks an embryo’s rights and life trump a woman’s rights and life.

429 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:38:25am

re: #400 Kragar

Always nice when your team lead just says “Fuck it, we’re not doing this bullshit anymore” when you’re looking at 2 days worth of make-work no one cares about.

We had an “improved reporting system” brought in about a year ago, where we had to pull duplicate data to import into its system, but after a few weeks, pretty much everyone stopped using it because it was a pain in the ass to use and we had simpler, more efficient methods everyone knew. Technically, the new system is still in place, we’re just not going to use it anymore.

Sounds like a standard top-down implementation where the system was not properly vetted, given an executive sponsor, and not tested and documented using the folk who were expected to use it - along with feedback on what the issues with implementing it was going to be.

And of course there will be no push back against the bottom-liner who got the expense budgeted for the system without doing the necessary work that had to go along with the idea.

430 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:38:59am

HURR HURR!!!!!


Here is the original photo:

431 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:39:44am

Max Blumenthal removed the watermark for his Photoshop. Stay classy Max.

432 calochortus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:40:32am

re: #428 wrenchwench

He’s till an extremist when it comes to women. He retweeted this:

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I can’t appreciate his many other qualities when he thinks an embryo’s rights and life trump a woman’s rights and life.

If life doesn’t begin at conception, please tell me when it does.

Well, there’s birth, ability to survive independently and ‘quickening’. They’ve all been used as “obvious” points where life begins.
If you want to get all philosophical, life doesn’t begin at conception-it began way before and each new birth is merely a continuation of that life.

None of these definitions make any difference to whether a woman has a right to terminate a pregnancy unless you also think people should be forced to donate organs, or whatever to save someone else’s life.

433 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:40:45am

re: #430 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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Here is the original photo:
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Black hatters gonna hat. (Seriously, at least rock the fur hats guys, at least then you won’t look like the Kosher Nostra.)

434 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:41:39am
435 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:41:41am

re: #431 Pie-onist Overlord

Max Blumenthal removed the watermark for his Photoshop. Stay classy Max.

Wouldn’t that violate some sort of copyright laws….or something along those lines?

436 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:42:37am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

No matter what you think of him, can anyone here imagine Ted Cruz ordering this:

Woman in India tells police village head ordered her gang-raped

Maybe not in a physical sense. But in an emotional and political sense I think many Republicans rape women almost daily.

By the way, is this your way of packaging Ted Cruz? If so, good luck with that.

EDIT: I’m just logging in for some lunchtime reading. Busy day so far, and that is why I am behind in quoting DF.

437 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:43:17am

re: #433 Schadenboner

You mean like these three?

Image: 833145a9510ddc2ee7518aed86d96ee8.jpg

438 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:43:27am

re: #429 Feline Fearless Leader

Sounds like a standard top-down implementation where the system was not properly vetted, given an executive sponsor, and not tested and documented using the folk who were expected to use it - along with feedback on what the issues with implementing it was going to be.

And of course there will be no push back against the bottom-liner who got the expense budgeted for the system without doing the necessary work that had to go along with the idea.

It was touted as a completely automatic reporting system to management.

What they didn’t say was automatic meant you had about a dozen people feeding in data and manipulating the reports because the scripting never worked right, but the GUI for management sure looked nice.

439 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:43:55am

re: #433 Schadenboner

Black hatters gonna hat. (Seriously, at least rock the fur hats guys, at least then you won’t look like the Kosher Nostra.)

This RIGOROUSLY DEFINED AND REGULATED little thing schtickle of ours…

440 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:45:58am

441 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:46:19am

HURR HURR!!!1!!!

442 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:46:22am

re: #437 lawhawk

You mean like these three?

Image: 833145a9510ddc2ee7518aed86d96ee8.jpg

Oh, a wise guy, eh?

443 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:47:47am

Dick Black withdraws from House race.

Unfortunately, it’s not so he can spend more time with his family.

huffingtonpost.com

444 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:48:57am

re: #432 calochortus

Well, there’s birth, ability to survive independently and ‘quickening’. They’ve all been used as “obvious” points where life begins.
If you want to get all philosophical, life doesn’t begin at conception-it began way before and each new birth is merely a continuation of that life.

None of these definitions make any difference to whether a woman has a right to terminate a pregnancy unless you also thing people should be forced to donate organs, or whatever to save someone else’s life.

Yup. It’s not about ‘when does life begin’, it’s about ‘when does a woman’s autonomy end’. The answer should be ‘never’, or whatever the answer is for men. It must be the same answer for both sexes.

445 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:48:59am
446 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:49:33am

re: #441 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!!

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Why would anybody outside of the Military Police need a gun on-base? Seriously, we get told all the time that we can’t put restrictions on semi-auto rifles because they’re not responsible for a majority of gun deaths in any given year, but at the same time we’re supposed to believe there’s such an epidemic of gun-related deaths on military installations that people being able to carry a gun for “self-defense” is a major issue.

447 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:49:50am
448 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:49:50am

re: #443 Skip Intro

Dick Black withdraws from House race.

Unfortunately, it’s not so he can spend more time with his family.

huffingtonpost.com

If there is any person in the world that should seriously consider changing their name, this guy is a leading candidate.

449 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:50:40am

re: #446 Targetpractice

Why would anybody outside of the Military Police need a gun on-base? Seriously, we get told all the time that we can’t put restrictions on semi-auto rifles because they’re not responsible for a majority of gun deaths in any given year, but at the same time we’re supposed to believe there’s such an epidemic of gun-related deaths on military installations that people being able to carry a gun for “self-defense” is a major issue.

HURR HURR!!!!! FT. HOOD!!!11!!!!

450 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:50:52am

re: #441 Pie-onist Overlord


Please proceed, GOP. Take Ted’s advice.

451 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:52:04am

re: #446 Targetpractice

Why would anybody outside of the Military Police need a gun on-base? Seriously, we get told all the time that we can’t put restrictions on semi-auto rifles because they’re not responsible for a majority of gun deaths in any given year, but at the same time we’re supposed to believe there’s such an epidemic of gun-related deaths on military installations that people being able to carry a gun for “self-defense” is a major issue.

Why do bases ban guns?

Because the military know how dangerous guns really can be.

452 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:52:37am

re: #450 Lidane

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Please proceed, GOP. Take Ted’s advice.

I approve.

They’ll destroy the GOP much faster than Reince.

453 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:53:13am

re: #448 Dr. Matt

If there is any person in the world that should seriously consider changing their name, this guy is a leading candidate.

I used to work with a guy named Dick Short. I don’t know how he made it through high school P.E.

454 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:53:14am
455 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:54:26am

re: #324 Gus

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Have Bieber and Miley ever been seen in the same room together? Very weird resemblance there.

Or are they just the latest model of popstar-bots?

456 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:54:40am

re: #453 Skip Intro

I used to work with a guy named Dick Short. I don’t know how he made it through high school P.E.

I’ll bet that guy got really good at dodgeball. And running.

457 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:55:06am

re: #451 Kragar

Why do bases ban guns?

Because the military know how dangerous guns really can be.

And no matter how well trained you are, accidents do happen and people do get hurt or killed.

458 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:55:13am

re: #451 Kragar

Why do bases ban guns?

Because the military know how dangerous guns really can be.

You can’t fight in here! This is the War Room!

459 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:55:43am

re: #454 Pie-onist Overlord

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Riots in Kiev or scene from Fallout live-action movie, you be the judge.

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460 Schadenboner  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:56:05am

re: #454 Pie-onist Overlord

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“Meanwhile, in The Ukraine”

(No, seriously…)

461 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:56:51am

re: #454 Pie-onist Overlord

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And that one guy is creeping everyone out by just going around saying “Are you my Mommy?”

462 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:56:58am

Looks like the Harpy has ditched typepad and set up shop over here

Still spewing her hateful shit and whining about being banned from entering Great Britain.

463 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:57:41am


And nothing of value was lost.

464 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:00:07am

HURR HURR!!!1111 STONE TEH SLUT!!111 BURN TEH WITCH!!11!!!!

465 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:01:18am

re: #462 Bubblehead II

Looks like the Harpy has ditched typepad and set up shop over here

Still spewing her hateful shit and whining about being banned from entering Great Britain.

From her ‘Quotables’ page:

The heroine of the right wing blogosphere. ‘We’re all Pamela Geller now!’” - Charles Johnson, mental patient

I guess butthurt is forever.

466 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:03:59am

I’ve managed to avoid anything to do with Bieber ‘til now, but I like this tweet:

468 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:06:26am

re: #463 Targetpractice

And nothing of value was lost.

The Cuomo administration replied: James who?

469 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:07:02am

re: #451 Kragar

Why do bases ban guns?

Because the military know how dangerous guns really can be.

Bravo Kragar!

470 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:07:10am
471 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:07:15am
472 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:07:27am

re: #465 wrenchwench

From her ‘Quotables’ page:

I guess butthurt is forever.

Haters gotta hate. Just no helping it.

473 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:07:52am

re: #452 Kragar

I approve.

They’ll destroy the GOP much faster than Reince.

How about putting Ted into Reince’s position.

474 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:09:15am


No shit. It’s trying to develop inside a dead woman that’s being kept alive by artificial means. It’s not getting the proper anything it needs to grow.

This entire case is an obscenity. That poor woman died months ago. Her family should be allowed to bury her.

475 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:11:26am

re: #474 Lidane

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No shit. It’s trying to develop inside a dead woman that’s being kept alive by artificial means. It’s not getting the proper anything it needs to grow.

This entire case is an obscenity. That poor woman died months ago. Her family should be allowed to bury her.

Have any lawmakers weighed in on this case?

476 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:11:50am

re: #450 Lidane

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Please proceed, GOP. Take Ted’s advice.

Speaking of Nuge - I educated a youngster on the origin of that ‘subhuman mongrel’ shit that Nuge was peddling the other day. The kid was truly aghast once I showed him historic examples of the usage of those words - he just thought Nuge was applying the traditional definitions and not dog whistling to his White Power buddies. He issued a sincere apology for trying to defend Nuge.

I feel like I did something good today. One for our side.

477 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:12:40am
478 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:14:04am

Well there is the proof that news is entertainment. MSNBC - Andrea Mitchell just broke away form an interview with Rep. Jane Harmann regarding NSA data collection to go to Miami for the bail setting for freakin’ Bieber.

Yep, real important hard news there, what with nothing of importance going on in the world!

479 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:15:49am

re: #478 ObserverArt

480 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:16:09am

re: #474 Lidane

[Embedded content]


No shit. It’s trying to develop inside a dead woman that’s being kept alive by artificial means. It’s not getting the proper anything it needs to grow.

This entire case is an obscenity. That poor woman died months ago. Her family should be allowed to bury her.

Up the thread last night we were discussing a good word for describing those carrying this mess out. I said monsters, we sort of settled on ghouls,

481 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:16:16am

HURR HURR!!!!11 STONE TEH SLUT!!!!111

482 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:17:05am

Meanwhile, back in the real world:

483 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:17:28am

We as a nation spend more time and effort analyzing the rise and fall of celebrities than we do real news. No wonder the rest of the world looks on us like we’re crazy.

484 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:18:11am

re: #479 Lidane

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Because clearly, a drunken pop star is infinitely more important than an insurrection in a European country.

485 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:18:29am

re: #483 Targetpractice

We as a nation spend more time and effort analyzing the rise and fall of celebrities than we do real news. No wonder the rest of the world looks on us like we’re crazy.

Shut up and pass me the bread. The circus is on!

486 blueraven  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:18:55am

re: #464 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1111 STONE TEH SLUT!!111 BURN TEH WITCH!!11!!!!

Vile? What EE and James O’Keefe are trying to do is vile. They are the ones exploiting the fact that Abbot is in a wheelchair.

487 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:19:28am

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

Note that Chris Latvala, who has forcefully called out Joshua Black, is also a Republican. And I think more Florida Republicans agree with Latvala than with Black.

Be that as it may, will folks here at least concede that Chris Latvala is both sane and Republican?

Not without at least the long-form certificate of his MMPI.

488 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:20:31am

re: #480 ObserverArt

Up the thread last night we were discussing a good word for describing those carrying this mess out. I said monsters, we sort of settled on ghouls,

Ghouls is a good word for it.

Personally, I think all the people who support keeping her alive— including the state of Texas — should pay for it out of their own pockets. You want to force unnecessary expenses on a family because of your religious fanaticism? Then pay the medical bills for that dead woman’s care. Period.

489 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:21:42am

re: #486 blueraven

Vile? What EE and James O’Keefe are trying to do is vile. They are the ones exploiting the fact that Abbot is in a wheelchair.

I considered digging up some of the articles written by wingnuts about Max Cleland, the open suggestions that the man was a “liar” whose disabilities and confinement to a wheelchair were his own fault and Democrats were “exploiting” him for the anti-war effort against Dubya…

But then I realized that wading into garbage is less appealing that it sounds.

490 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:21:55am

re: #488 Lidane

Ghouls is a good word for it.

Personally, I think all the people who support keeping her alive— including the state of Texas — should pay for it out of their own pockets. You want to force unnecessary expenses on a family because of your religious fanaticism? Then pay the medical bills for that dead woman’s care. Period.

Of course you know that Munoz will be driven bankrupt and homeless by the wingnuts.

491 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:24:21am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

Of course you know that Munoz will be driven bankrupt and homeless by the wingnuts.

Sure. They’re all about family values, don’tcha know.

492 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:24:51am

I can hear the RWNJ head explosions from here:

493 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:25:30am

Step right up ladies and gentlemen to the sideshow:



494 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:26:07am

heh

495 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:26:16am

Iranian official on nuke deal: ‘We did not agree to dismantle anything’

(CNN) — Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif insisted Wednesday that the Obama administration mischaracterizes concessions by his side in the six-month nuclear deal with Iran, telling CNN in an exclusive interview that “we did not agree to dismantle anything.”

Zarif told CNN Chief National Security Correspondent Jim Sciutto that terminology used by the White House to describe the agreement differed from the text agreed to by Iran and the other countries in the talks — the United States, Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany.

“The White House version both underplays the concessions and overplays Iranian commitments” under the agreement that took effect Monday, Zarif said in Davos, Switzerland, where he was attending the World Economic Forum.

496 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:28:11am
497 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:28:51am
498 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:29:10am

re: #481 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!11 STONE TEH SLUT!!!!111

Because saying that “we stand with Wendy” is mocking Abbott’s physical disability? Just speaking for myself I mock Abbott for being an asshole who I do not want in office in any capacity.

499 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:29:20am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

500 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:29:22am
501 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:30:38am
502 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:31:25am

Meanwhile, in the not-Justin Bieberverse:

503 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:31:52am

re: #419 Pie-onist Overlord

The only vodka that I have is lime-flavored. I don’t know how that will affect the taste of the pie crust. I don’t feel like going out and buy a whole new bottle. It takes months to finish a bottle of vodka, unless my sons come to visit, then it takes all night.

That will work. A little bit of citrus with an apple pie isn’t bad. My favorite recipe for it includes using fresh lemon juice and lemon zest.

504 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:31:53am

re: #481 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!11 STONE TEH SLUT!!!!111

BREAKING O’KEEFE VIDEO>>> Wendy Davis Supporters, Battleground Texas Mock Greg Abbott’s Disability t.co via @gatewaypundit
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) January 23, 2014

The right have selective political correctness.

505 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:32:14am

re: #495 Gus

Iranian official on nuke deal: ‘We did not agree to dismantle anything’

It’ll be interesting to see if the Iranians include their stockpile of 20% in the “not dismantling”. It does seem the Iranians view their “agreement” much differently than we do.

506 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:32:22am

[Crickets]

507 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:32:41am

More RWNJ head explosions:

508 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:32:46am

re: #497 Gus

Thanks for posting that Alinsky interview last night. I enjoyed reading it.

509 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:33:10am

re: #505 Killgore Trout

It’ll be interesting to see if the Iranians include their stockpile of 20% in the “not dismantling”. It does seem the Iranians view their “agreement” much differently than we do.

Zarif accused the Obama administration of creating a false impression with such language.

“The White House tries to portray it as basically a dismantling of Iran’s nuclear program. That is the word they use time and again,” he said, urging Sciutto to read the actual text of the agreement. “If you find a single, a single word, that even closely resembles dismantling or could be defined as dismantling in the entire text, then I would take back my comment.”

510 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:33:52am


Scotty Walker, the gift that keeps on giving.

511 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:34:01am

He repeated that “we are not dismantling any centrifuges, we’re not dismantling any equipment, we’re simply not producing, not enriching over 5%.”

512 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:35:37am

re: #440 lawhawk

[Embedded image]

Caption: We’re from upper management, and we’re here to help!

513 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:37:53am

re: #453 Skip Intro

I used to work with a guy named Dick Short. I don’t know how he made it through high school P.E.

I used to work for a manager named Richard Long. He went by “Rich”.

514 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:38:01am

re: #492 Lidane

I can hear the RWNJ head explosions from here:

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L O V E IT!

515 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:42:08am

re: #511 Gus

He repeated that “we are not dismantling any centrifuges, we’re not dismantling any equipment, we’re simply not producing, not enriching over 5%.”

Yeah, it seems the Iranian interpretation is they aren’t going to add to their 20% stockpile. This seems overlooked in most press coverage…..
Iran’s nuclear stockpile may rise for now despite deal with powers

Although the immediate attention is focused on removing the stockpile of 20 percent enriched uranium, it is important not to forget about the much larger stockpile of 3-5 percent enriched uranium,” Fitzpatrick said. Experts say Iran potentially has enough LEU for a few nuclear weapons if refined much further. Limiting its overall enrichment capacity is expected be one of the thorniest issues in future negotiations. Reflecting Western concern also about the lower-grade stockpile, the United States says Iran has undertaken to not increase it so that it is not larger in half a year’s time than it is now.

516 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:45:26am
517 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:47:04am

re: #516 Kragar

I see the GOP’s outreach to women is ongoing. Whee!

518 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:49:28am

Watched the W.H. presser. Unless I missed it, there was not one question about what was going on in Ukraine

519 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:50:08am
520 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:50:25am

re: #518 Bubblehead II

Watched the W.H. presser. Unless I missed it, there was not one question about what was going on in Ukraine

Did they get a question in about whether the President would be granting Bieber a pardon?

521 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:51:17am

re: #516 Kragar

[Embedded content]

On the other hand, a photo of Huckabee would be a very effective means of libido control.

522 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:51:58am

re: #515 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it seems the Iranian interpretation is they aren’t going to add to their 20% stockpile. This seems overlooked in most press coverage…..
Iran’s nuclear stockpile may rise for now despite deal with powers

We’ll see what happens in the next 6 months. I’m not optimistic.

523 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:52:05am

re: #521 wrenchwench

On the other hand, a photo of Huckabee would be a very effective means of libido control.

He is the poster boy for abstinence.

524 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:52:21am

re: #519 Kragar

[Embedded content]

This is new how?

525 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:52:24am

Shorter Huckabee: Ladies, keep your junk in your pants, you whores!

526 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:52:54am

An educational 10 minutes of Wikipedia surfing.

Never knew there had been an underground nuclear test in 1964 in Mississippi. This led to a page on the whole US nuclear test program. Which led to this wonderful 50s idea.

en.wikipedia.org

527 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:53:50am

re: #520 Targetpractice

Did they get a question in about whether the President would be granting Bieber a pardon?

Thankfully no, but Jay did get asked about the Huxters Women can’t control their libido without government help remark. Said it was offensive.

528 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:54:05am

Make that not new. Doubt it though. He’ll get a slap on the wrist. Although he has two things against him: a) he’s male and b) he’s Canadian.

529 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:54:33am
530 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:54:47am

re: #528 Gus

Make that not new. Doubt it though. He’ll get a slap on the wrist. Although he has two things against him: a) he’s male and b) he’s Canadian.

Does the former prevent his crying before the judge having an chance of drawing leniency?

531 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:55:47am

re: #516 Kragar

… he sez fondling his bubble pack of insurance paid for Cialis…

532 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:55:49am

re: #530 Feline Fearless Leader

Does the former prevent his crying before the judge having an chance of drawing leniency?

Yes.

533 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:55:57am

re: #516 Kragar

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No word yet from Huck on whether the government should stop helping horny old men by ending insurance coverage of Viagra.

534 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:56:52am
535 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:57:08am

re: #529 Gus

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Remember when the news actually followed newsworthy events and left celebrity news to the gossip rags?

536 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:57:10am

re: #522 Gus

We’ll see what happens in the next 6 months. I’m not optimistic.

Neither am I.

537 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:57:32am

Plus. It’s not like what he did was the worst thing in the world.

538 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:59:26am

re: #533 Targetpractice

No word yet from Huck on whether the government should stop helping horny old men by ending insurance coverage of Viagra.

539 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:59:46am

re: #518 Bubblehead II

Watched the W.H. presser. Unless I missed it, there was not one question about what was going on in Ukraine

US threatens Ukraine sanctions if violence continues
I’m not sure if the Ukrainians are too worried, the Russians would likely take the sting out of sanctions if they were to happen.

540 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:00:02am

re: #537 Gus

Plus. It’s not like what he did was the worst thing in the world.

541 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:03:04am

re: #417 Dr. Matt

As I’ve noted before, all libertarianism is simply a product rebranding. The name was chosen because it makes it appear that if you argue against libertarianism you are arguing against the very concept of liberty itself.

And despite years of exposure to modern marketing too many people still buy the bullshit.

542 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:04:04am
543 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:05:38am

re: #440 lawhawk

[Embedded image]

Ala Duck Dynasty.

544 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:05:55am

re: #427 Lidane

Wow.

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But let’s focus on an NFL player trash talking after a game and a spoiled rich kid pop star. Or on the plight of the dudebro. You know, things that matter.

////

To the wingnuts and dudebros. That’s oppression looks like.

So quite your fucking whining.

545 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:06:59am

re: #542 Gus

[Embedded content]

Bill is free to provide his evidence, but so far every study done on the effects of minimum wage increases shows the exact opposite.

546 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:08:08am

re: #542 Gus

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Words of “wisdom” from someone who has never missed a meal in his life unwillingly or worried about a roof over his head. CATO, why should I care about what a spoiled rich old white man thinks?

547 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:12:04am

re: #546 William Barnett-Lewis

Words of “wisdom” from someone who has never missed a meal in his life unwillingly or worried about a roof over his head. CATO, why should I care about what a spoiled rich old white man thinks?

Gates is a man who got his money the old-fashioned way: He bought somebody else’s work for cheap, filed off the serial numbers, and sold it as his own at a severe mark-up.

548 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:16:19am

re: #547 Targetpractice

Gates is a man who got his money the old-fashioned way: He bought somebody else’s work for cheap, filed off the serial numbers, and sold it as his own at a severe mark-up.

His original work was really his - his very good basic compiler. Just don’t ask how they used the Navy PDP-11 to code it when that was provided to Harvard on a strictly “no commercial uses” basis. That started MS and the rest is crime and history.

549 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:21:25am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Yet it was a republican president that went after and ousted them in Afghanastan

Funny that

That was money and revenge not sky daddy religion. And money carries MUCH more weight.

550 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:23:10am

re: #302 danarchy

Yep, Republicans all are totally cool with gunning down young girls for just trying to get an education.

Of course not. Only raping them if they are dressed provocatively.

551 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:25:06am

re: #521 wrenchwench

On the other hand, a photo of Huckabee would be a very effective means of libido control.

So, you heard that part of his speech too.

By the way, Mike is getting fat…in the head!

552 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 11:31:54am

re: #535 Targetpractice

Remember when the news actually followed newsworthy events and left celebrity news to the gossip rags?

I remember when crazy ass news was in super markets tabloids like the National Enquirer, World Weekly News and others. And then Fox took it all over!

553 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 12:17:30pm

re: #548 William Barnett-Lewis

His original work was really his - his very good basic compiler. Just don’t ask how they used the Navy PDP-11 to code it when that was provided to Harvard on a strictly “no commercial uses” basis. That started MS and the rest is crime and history.

Just noticed a typo - PDP-10 Not PDP-11. Very different systems… O_o

554 122 Year Old Obama  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 12:28:38pm

re: #510 Targetpractice

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Scotty Walker, the gift that keeps on giving.

555 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:05:40pm

re: #456 Lidane

I’ll bet that guy got really good at dodgeball. And running.

“And if I ever have a son, I’m going to name him …

BILL! or GEORGE! Anything but Dick Short!”


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