Great Moments in GOP Election Fraud: Dinesh D’Souza Indicted

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You know how conservatives are always issuing dire warnings about election fraud, and demanding tough new voter ID laws in disadvantaged areas to make sure the lower classes don’t cheat?

Well, um, yeah. Dinesh D’Souza Indicted Over Campaign Contributions.

NEW YORK — Dinesh D’Souza, a conservative commentator and best-selling author, has been indicted by a federal grand jury for arranging excessive campaign contributions to a candidate for the U.S. Senate.

The candidate was Wendy Long, a Republican who sought to unseat Democratic incumbent Kirsten Gillibrand as New York’s junior senator in 2012, according to a person familiar with the case. …

The indictment said D’Souza directed individuals to contribute a total $20,000 to the campaign of an unnamed Senate candidate in 2012 and then reimbursed them for their contributions.

Federal law in 2012 limited primary and general election campaign contributions to $2,500 each, for a total of $5,000, from any individual to any one candidate.

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215 comments
1 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:54:28pm

So his acumen at electioneering is on par with his skill at political analysis, history, anthropology, sociology, documentary making, marital fidelity…..

2 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:55:45pm
3 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:56:03pm

re: #1 The Ghost of a Flea

So his acumen at electioneering is on par with his skill at political analysis, history, anthropology, sociology, documentary making, marital fidelity…..

Jack of all trades…

4 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:56:46pm

By feeding hate to the RWNJ et al, he’s made bank in the most vile way.

Karma baby.

5 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:57:08pm

Talk about “entitlement nation.”

6 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:57:09pm

Obama’s America sucks…….if you break the law.

7 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:57:12pm

It takes talent to find one of the few bits of corruption in US elections that is still officially illegal.

8 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:57:17pm

Was that wrong?

9 dog philosopher  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:58:12pm

clearly dinesh couldn’t control his libido

10 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:58:50pm
11 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:59:14pm

re: #9 dog philosopher

clearly dinesh couldn’t control his libido

He wants to screw us all.

12 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:00:14pm

re: #9 dog philosopher

clearly dinesh couldn’t control his libido

Or maybe his mosquito.

13 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:00:20pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

By feeding hate to the RWNJ et al, he’s made bank in the most vile way.

Karma baby.

Yes, I admit to feeling a lot of schadenfreude. Just waiting for the Big Mouth to get his—oh, it’s going to come and it will put fear into a lot of those hate-mongers.

14 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:01:16pm

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

And that’s the name of that tune!

- Baretta

15 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:04:05pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

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Is Drudge implying that the FBI should NOT look into the Murdoch empire’s violations of privacy by tapping people’s phones?

Do I detect a bit of inconsistency?

16 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:04:28pm

Jackass of all trades.

17 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:05:15pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

Is Drudge implying that the FBI should NOT look into the Murdoch empire’s violations of privacy by tapping people’s phones?

Do I detect a bit of inconsistency?

There’s no inconsistency at all. Drudge is perfectly consistent in spinning everything as dictated by his paymasters.

18 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:11:35pm

Long lost to Gilibrand by a 44% margin. I have to believe this wide a margin was obvious going in, so what kind of dumbass thought that $20K was anything more than the sunk costs fallacy applied to a political lost cause.

19 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:12:26pm
20 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:13:47pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Long lost to Gilibrand by a 44% margin. I have to believe this wide a margin was obvious going in, so what kind of dumbass thought that $20K was anything more than the sunk costs fallacy applied to a political lost cause.

One of the more benign effects of religion zealotry as applied to politics. I’m sure D’Souza justified this stupidity (and the fraud) on the grounds that he was thereby opposing the Armies of Satan.

21 freetoken  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:14:10pm

re: #19 Kragar

Someone should lock Akin, Huckabee, and Fischer in a jacuzzi and observe what happens.

22 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:14:56pm

You know it’s in the works — the Great Todd Akin Comeback Tour.

23 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:15:23pm

re: #21 freetoken

Someone should lock Akin, Huckabee, and Fischer in a jacuzzi and observe what happens.

That is considerably worse than the Putin/Snowden business in the last thread.

No photoshops, please!

24 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:15:46pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

You know it’s in the works — the Great Todd Akin Comeback Tour.

One can only hope.

25 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:16:10pm

re: #21 freetoken

Someone should lock Akin, Huckabee, and Fischer in a jacuzzi and observe what happens.

I will not speculate on the details but I would guess that at least 2 of them end up getting shot?

26 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:17:22pm

re: #19 Kragar

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hahahahahahaha

27 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:17:32pm

I’m in the middle of reading Tom Clancy’s last novel, in which Ukrainian unrest is being fostered as Russia prepares to invade, so the news coming out of there is kind of eerie and unsettling to me right now.

28 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:18:12pm

re: #25 b.d.

I will not speculate on the details but I would guess that at least 2 of them end up getting shot?

I would expect at least three money shots.

29 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:19:24pm

Erik son of Erick was bleating about Todd Akin the other night

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:23:32pm

So, going by the Rule of Three, who’s the next douchebag to get busted?

1. Bieber
2. D’Souza
3. ???

31 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:23:57pm

re: #21 freetoken

Someone should lock Akin, Huckabee, and Fischer in a jacuzzi and observe what happens.

You made me throw up in my mouth.

32 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:24:27pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

You know it’s in the works — the Great Todd Akin Comeback Tour.

It’s only a legitimate comeback tour if female audiences find a way to shut it down.

33 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:24:46pm

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

So, going by the Rule of Three, who’s the next douchebag to get busted?

1. Bieber
2. D’Souza
3. ???

It already happened; McDonnell

34 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:25:20pm

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

So, going by the Rule of Three, who’s the next douchebag to get busted?

1. Bieber
2. D’Souza
3. ???

Revenge Porn Purveyor Hunter Moore Finally Arrested by the FBI

35 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:25:55pm
36 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:26:56pm

WTFITS
He has no self awareness.

37 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:27:36pm

It’s a goofy song, but there’s a kitteh…

Youtube Video

Later, lizards.

38 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:27:45pm

re: #34 The Ghost of a Flea

Revenge Porn Purveyor Hunter Moore Finally Arrested by the FBI

Would it be inappropriate to hope he shares a cell with Bubba, who thinks he has a purty mouth?

39 EiMitch  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:27:59pm

Oh noes! Not the same Dinesh D’Souza who put out a hit-piece film about Obama in ‘12. He created the right-wing’s Fahrenheit 911. He doesn’t deserve to be persecuted for refusing to recognize fascist electoral finance laws.

/do I need to?

40 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:28:05pm

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

Unlike liberals, conservatives don’t believe societal standards must be legislated.

Ben has parted ways with reality.

41 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:28:13pm

re: #35 Kragar

From the article.

“In fact, Republicans have been tremendous in supporting equality of women, in the workplace and other places,” Santorum argued. “We happen to disagree on reproductive rights and abortion. But on the issue of contraception, I don’t think there’s a whole lot of disagreement in America.”

Someone is practicing his Really Big Lies.

42 klys  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:28:21pm

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS
He has no self awareness.

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…that’s totally why the conservatives are pushing bills to get involved in discussions between me, my husband, and my doctor. Because BABIES and also SLUTZ.

43 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:30:05pm
44 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:30:12pm

re: #35 Kragar

“Mike speaks off the cuff, as some of us are known to do, and probably would [have] chose different words to communicate that.”

Still confusing the map with the territory.

45 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:30:33pm

re: #40 jaunte

Ben has parted ways with reality.

Unbelievable. Ben Shapiro shills for so-con thugs, a significant fraction of which would love to implement the Republic of Gilead from the Handmaid’s Tale down to the last detail.

46 missliberties  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:31:13pm

Why is everybody picking on poor widdle Dinesh! Poor guy.

He is so innocent.

“I am thankful this week when I remember that America is big enough and great enough to survive Grown-Up Trayvon in the White House!”~Dinesh D’Souza

He’s a swell guy! twitter.com

47 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:34:03pm

Since we are talking about misogyny: 13 arrested for gang rape of woman ordered as punishment for dating

48 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:34:38pm

As much craziness that continues within the Republican party, some reasonable GOP bigwigs have to be sitting around somewhere in a complete funk wondering what the holy hell is going on.

The realistic, old-time, last of the moderates in the party have to be asking why their party seems so out of control and then they remember they had guys like Dick Armey and Karl Rove open Pandora’s box buying the astro turf for the Tea Party and teaching the slime methods that is all killing them now.

They wear it well.

49 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:34:42pm

Of course! That’s why he lost the election in 2012 and Mitt Romney is President now.

50 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:34:44pm

Atlas 5 rocket launching NASA’s TDRS L communications and data relay satellite live feed
spaceflightnow.com

51 missliberties  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:35:05pm

re: #6 b.d.

Obama’s America sucks…….if you break the law.

Remember when the Republican Party was the party of Law & Order?

Now they are the part of FreeDom!! All laws restrict freedom. That’s just the way it is.

52 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:36:57pm

re: #48 ObserverArt

As much craziness that continues within the Republican party, some reasonable GOP bigwigs have to be sitting around somewhere in a complete funk wondering what the holy hell is going on.

The realistic, old-time, last of the moderates in the party have to be asking why their party seems so out of control and then they remember they had guys like Dick Armey and Karl Rove open Pandora’s box buying the astro turf for the Tea Party and teaching the slime methods that is all killing them now.

They wear it well.

I suspect the big money players that like things nice and orderly for business reasons are well on their way to owning the Democratic party. If so, the GOP freakshow can be allowed to continue as a distraction from economic issues.

53 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:37:08pm
54 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:38:34pm

11,298 mph.

55 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:40:37pm

12,112 mph.

56 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:42:02pm

12,838 mph.

57 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:42:44pm

58 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:43:53pm

14,039 mph.

59 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:44:49pm

TEH APPLE PIE HAS BEEN BAKED!

60 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:45:38pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH APPLE PIE HAS BEEN BAKED!
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61 b.d.  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:45:45pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH APPLE PIE HAS BEEN BAKED!
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GImmmmmeeeee!

62 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:45:48pm

15,509 mph.

63 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:46:20pm

That’s a little ceramic bird in the center of the pie, to vent off the steam that builds up under the crust. Usually the pie sauce bubbles all around the edge of the crust.

64 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:46:45pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH APPLE PIE HAS BEEN BAKED!
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[mouth waters]

65 klys  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:47:17pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH APPLE PIE HAS BEEN BAKED!
[Embedded image]

Where do I sign up for my piece?

66 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:48:29pm

Losing control of Applelibido.

67 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:48:50pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH APPLE PIE HAS BEEN BAKED!
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Sitting on it’s radioactive storage block.
;)

68 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:48:53pm

re: #60 Gus

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DAMN!!!! Gus had that up in under 1 minute after the original post.

RBS

69 Bear  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:49:32pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

Looks good. Please may I have my piece in a bowl with cream?

70 BongCrodny  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:49:43pm

If he’s found guilty, I think they should d’port him.

71 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:49:47pm

re: #63 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s a little ceramic bird in the center of the pie, to vent off the steam that builds up under the crust. Usually the pie sauce bubbles all around the edge of the crust.

What’s your preferred apple type(s) for making pies with?

72 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:51:39pm

re: #68 RealityBasedSteve

DAMN!!!! Gus had that up in under 1 minute after the original post.

RBS

I’ve got my secret weapons. OK, not really a secret. :D

73 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:54:49pm

re: #70 BongCrodny

If he’s found guilty, I think they should d’port him.

There won’t be a trial, he’ll strike a plea of some kind for the Miami mess. It’s the potential vandalism charge out in LA that Bieber has to worry about. That one is a felony and the guy whose house the brat and his pack egged has enough juice to make sure Bieber doesn’t get off scot-free if a case can be made.

Frankly, I’d like to send Justin Bieber to a well-run boot camp program. He badly needs to learn discipline.

74 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:55:39pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

It’s a goofy song, but there’s a kitteh…

[Embedded content]

Later, lizards.

Just beautiful. Girl, it gave me a tear!

76 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:56:47pm

re: #72 Gus

I’ve got my secret weapons. OK, not really a secret. :D

I’m on to you…

; )

77 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:56:51pm

re: #71 Feline Fearless Leader

What’s your preferred apple type(s) for making pies with?

Granny Smith & Braeburn.

78 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:56:59pm
79 klys  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:57:09pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

I think the comment was about Dinesh, not JB.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:58:37pm

Huckabee is throwing away his Tea Party popularity.

81 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:58:56pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

There won’t be a trial, he’ll strike a plea of some kind for the Miami mess. It’s the potential vandalism charge out in LA that Bieber has to worry about. That one is a felony and the guy whose house the brat and his pack egged has enough juice to make sure Bieber doesn’t get off scot-free if a case can be made.

Frankly, I’d like to send Justin Bieber to a well-run boot camp program. He badly needs to learn discipline.

Beiber or D’Souza???

Hell, pack them both off…

82 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 6:59:42pm

And for Throwback Thursday we have this 1950’s Soviet photo gallery of USSR Arctic personnel feeding condensed milk to polar bears. This sample may be filed under “Bad idea with some redeeming Cute value”:

Image: tumblr_mzs5bnpkxz1r9khx4o4_1280.jpg

83 chadu  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:00:05pm

O/T

Holy crap!

Tales of Zo is:

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #21,016 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)

#2 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Literature & Fiction > Mythology & Folk Tales > Folklore

#14 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Literature & Fiction > Mythology & Folk Tales > Fairy Tales

#32 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Fantasy > Anthologies & Short Stories

It just went up yesterday! Woof!

84 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:02:28pm

re: #80 Pie-onist Overlord

Huckabee is throwing away his Tea Party popularity.

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Huckabee needs to get past the GOP purity squad if he wants the nomination. For all of his innumerable other faults, Huckabee is not completely evil on fiscal issues, which will be a problem for him in the GOP primaries.

85 Bear  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:02:46pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

How about this cake? adn.com

86 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:03:46pm

So the Columbus Blue Jackets win another NHL game…5-2 against Philly…for 8 wins in a row. Lookin’ good, lookin’ good. Best run going in the NHL right now. Nice, since we’ve been the doormat for too long.

87 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:04:58pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

And for Throwback Thursday we have this 1950’s Soviet photo gallery of USSR Arctic personnel feeding condensed milk to polar bears. This sample may be filed under “Bad idea with some redeeming Cute value”:

Image: tumblr_mzs5bnpkxz1r9khx4o4_1280.jpg

This leg tastes good mommy!

88 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:05:02pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

And for Throwback Thursday we have this 1950’s Soviet photo gallery of USSR Arctic personnel feeding condensed milk to polar bears. This sample may be filed under “Bad idea with some redeeming Cute value”:

Image: tumblr_mzs5bnpkxz1r9khx4o4_1280.jpg

Yea… questionable judgement there, especially considering that’s a sow with cubs. On the other hand, ya gotta give the guy credit for having a pair. (why do I think this photo was preceded by “Hold my vodka and watch this”?)

RBS

89 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:06:50pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

Beiber or D’Souza???

Hell, pack them both off…

They aren’t interchangeable. Justin Bieber is an undisciplined 19-year old. His wrongs are those of weakness. He needs to be taught to be a proper man.

By contrast, the wrongs of Dinesh D’Souza have been born of malice and calculation. In his case punitive action is needed to impress upon him that fraud will not be tolerated.

90 calochortus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:10:09pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

They aren’t interchangeable. Justin Bieber is an undisciplined 19-year old. His wrongs are those of weakness. He needs to be taught to be a proper man.

By contrast, the wrongs of Dinesh D’Souza have been born of malice and calculation. In his case punitive action is needed to impress upon him that fraud will not be tolerated.

Surely you know that this is all part of an evil administration plot to get rid of troublesome conservatives? Or that’s what the folks at FR are saying anyway. Someone did mention that his private life wasn’t exactly exemplary (the adultery), but in general that was ignored.

91 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:10:12pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

They aren’t interchangeable. Justin Bieber is an undisciplined 19-year old. His wrongs are those of weakness. He needs to be taught to be a proper man.

By contrast, the wrongs of Dinesh D’Souza have been born of malice and calculation. In his case punitive action is needed to impress upon him that fraud will not be tolerated.

Send them both to Kiev so that the Ukraine uprisings finally get noticed on American TV.

92 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:10:15pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

Yea… questionable judgement there, especially considering that’s a sow with cubs. On the other hand, ya gotta give the guy credit for having a pair. (why do I think this photo was preceded by “Hold my vodka and watch this”?)

RBS

I learned something new today: Female bears are called sows, males are called boars. I never would have guess that the male and female names for pigs are also used for bears.

Thanks Steve.

93 calochortus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:10:50pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

I learned something new today: Female bears are called sows, males are called boars. I never would have guess that the male and female names for pigs are also used for bears.

Thanks Steve.

And weirdly IMHO, for guinea pigs.

94 ObserverArt  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:11:46pm

re: #52 EPR-radar

I suspect the big money players that like things nice and orderly for business reasons are well on their way to owning the Democratic party. If so, the GOP freakshow can be allowed to continue as a distraction from economic issues.

You may be onto something there. It would make sense.

Add some of that to the complete disillusionment of congress by the general populace and the feeling by those that might now consider themselves independent and I think there might be a surprise coming in the half elections in ‘14 the Grand Old Party might not find too grand.

95 klys  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:12:37pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

They aren’t interchangeable. Justin Bieber is an undisciplined 19-year old. His wrongs are those of weakness. He needs to be taught to be a proper man.

By contrast, the wrongs of Dinesh D’Souza have been born of malice and calculation. In his case punitive action is needed to impress upon him that fraud will not be tolerated.

Can we change “proper man” to “responsible adult”?

Thx.

96 chadu  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:13:00pm

re: #14 b.d.

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

And that’s the name of that tune!

- Baretta

Irony: It’s like goldy or bronzy but made of iron.

97 chadu  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:15:13pm

re: #36 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS
He has no self awareness.

Unlike liberals, conservatives don’t believe societal standards must be legislated.

98 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:15:27pm

re: #91 Lidane

Send them both to Kiev so that the Ukraine uprisings finally get noticed on American TV.

So you’re saying Bieber needs a Holiday in Cambodia?

Youtube Video

99 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:17:24pm
100 chadu  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:17:34pm

re: #80 Pie-onist Overlord

Huckabee is throwing away his Tea Party popularity.

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101 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:18:09pm

re: #95 klys

Can we change “proper man” to “responsible adult”?

Thx.

You can if you wish.

102 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:19:03pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Some you’re saying Bieber needs a Holiday in Cambodia?

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Normally I’d get annoyed by anyone putting that little twerp next to a band with actual talent. HOWEVER, sending him overseas with only Jello Biafra and/or Henry Rollins for company might be the wake up call he needs.

103 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:20:53pm

re: #99 Lidane

One day that whole list will be ruled unconstitutional. It is without any practical doubt punishment absent due process and / or trial.

104 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:21:05pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

They aren’t interchangeable. Justin Bieber is an undisciplined 19-year old. His wrongs are those of weakness. He needs to be taught to be a proper man.

By contrast, the wrongs of Dinesh D’Souza have been born of malice and calculation. In his case punitive action is needed to impress upon him that fraud will not be tolerated.

Bieber is a menace to public safety, D’Souza to the rule of law itself.

105 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:21:11pm

re: #102 Lidane

Normally I’d get annoyed by anyone putting that little twerp next to a band with actual talent. HOWEVER, sending him overseas with only Jello Biafra and/or Henry Rollins for company might be the wake up call he needs.

Thread this morning thought of adding him to the Iron Maiden line-up solely to serve as Eddy-fodder.

106 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:24:48pm

re: #91 Lidane

Send them both to Kiev so that the Ukraine uprisings finally get noticed on American TV.

It does strike me a bit strange how little interest there is in the Ukraine story. There has been some discussion here so I assumed there would be some interest among progressives. Nope. I can understand the unrest in Thailand wouldn’t generate much interest from Americans since Thailand is far away and the people are brown(ish). Ukraine is much closer, white people and good quality riot videos. Maybe we’ll have to wait until a Republican or Dem picks a side, then everybody else will know who to oppose. At the very least we’ll have to wait until the republicans blame Obama for whatever the end result.

107 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:25:04pm

re: #102 Lidane

Normally I’d get annoyed by anyone putting that little twerp next to a band with actual talent. HOWEVER, sending him overseas with only Jello Biafra and/or Henry Rollins for company might be the wake up call he needs.

I hope I did not offend, its just that the song seemed well suited as a reply to Bieber’s antics.

108 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:27:41pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

I hope I did not offend, its just that the song seemed well suited as a reply to Bieber’s antics.

Haha no. Not offended. If anything, the idea of sending that little shit overseas to see real world struggles with a politically active punk singer might be what he needs.

Either that or just send him to Kiev so the media will talk about the Ukraine instead of his DUI arrest.

109 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:27:46pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

It does strike me a bit strange how little interest there is in the Ukraine story. There has been some discussion here so I assumed there would be some interest among progressives. Nope. I can understand the unrest in Thailand wouldn’t generate much interest from Americans since Thailand is far away and the people are brown(ish). Ukraine is much closer, white people and good quality riot videos. Maybe we’ll have to wait until a Republican or Dem picks a side, then everybody else will know who to oppose. At the very least we’ll have to wait until the republicans blame Obama for whatever the end result.

Well, it’s certainly impressive that you’ve found a way to make the violence in the Ukraine all about your personal druid fetish.

110 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:27:57pm

This Justin Bieber hooligan is a literal celebrity to me, that is, someone I have heard of only for being famous. I don’t know what he is famous for and don’t much care to know. I was surprised to see that he is only 19 years old. I have a working computer that is older than that (486 DX2), as well as assorted shoes, socks and possibly underwear. It seems like I have been hearing his name in the background buzz of pop culture for decades but that can’t be right.

111 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:28:28pm
112 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:28:46pm
113 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:29:03pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

It does strike me a bit strange how little interest there is in the Ukraine story. There has been some discussion here so I assumed there would be some interest among progressives. Nope. I can understand the unrest in Thailand wouldn’t generate much interest from Americans since Thailand is far away and the people are brown(ish). Ukraine is much closer, white people and good quality riot videos. Maybe we’ll have to wait until a Republican or Dem picks a side, then everybody else will know who to oppose. At the very least we’ll have to wait until the republicans blame Obama for whatever the end result.

The only one I know of to date is John McCain, who has sided firmly with Euromaidan. Of course, wherever John McCain goes on a matter such as this Lindsey Graham, Mark Kirk and often Marco Rubio will follow in train. But even Sen. McCain is not suggesting any action past economic sanctions.

114 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:29:59pm

re: #77 Pie-onist Overlord

Granny Smith & Braeburn.

How sad is it that I can see this answer and I can only assume you are making a My Little Pony reference?

115 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:30:00pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel

I don’t know what he is famous for and don’t much care to know.

He’s another in a long line of disposable teen pop stars. That’s all.

116 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:30:55pm

re: #115 Lidane

He’s another in a long line of disposable teen pop stars. That’s all.

Youtube Video

117 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:31:11pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

How sad is it that I can see this answer and I can only assume you are making a My Little Pony reference?

heh. Cooking actually.

118 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:33:06pm

BTW that street racing via using your posse to block traffic is not uncommon. D_L just had a frustrating incident on Hwy 605 just last Sunday. The traffic was blocked like a rolling stop that CHP does. Then the 3, 2, 1 hand gesture and two guys were off racing. Then twice more. She hit 911 to alert CHP but all the cars had paper over the plates.

Seven cars involved. D_L had her own gesture to provide but that was little satisfaction.

119 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:33:57pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

How sad is it that I can see this answer and I can only assume you are making a My Little Pony reference?

OK. Fine. Have a My Little Pony video:

Youtube Video

Haha.

120 Belafon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:34:40pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel

When he was really young, it turned out he was pretty good at the drums. So his parents turned him into a pop star.

121 aagcobb  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:35:10pm

Rep. Steve Stockman is missing. Last time this happened, Mark Sanford was “hiking the Appalachian Trail.”

122 andres  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:35:47pm

re: #25 b.d.

I will not speculate on the details but I would guess that at least 2 of them end up getting shot?

Shot? Is that what kids call it these days?

:P

123 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:37:08pm

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

The only one I know of to date is John McCain, who has sided firmly with Euromaidan. Of course, wherever John McCain goes on a matter such as this Lindsey Graham, Mark Kirk and often Marco Rubio will follow in train. But even Sen. McCain is not suggesting any action past economic sanctions.

Maybe if the partisan pundits invent a Koch-Soros conspiracy theory we’ll get some coverage. That shouldn’t take long, I’m sure there are plenty connections to be explored.

124 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:38:59pm

Watching a very funny movie. Crime Spree (2003)

An out-of-town heist becomes a nightmare for a crew of French burglars when they mistakenly rob the head of the Chicago mafia. Unaccustomed to the ways of the American underworld, it is not long before they have the mafia, the FBI and a couple of street gangs on their backs as they attempt to make their way back to Paris. Written by Vincent Reed

Gérard Depardieu and Harvey Keitel. It’s sort of like “The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight”,

RBS

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:39:21pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

How sad is it that I can see this answer and I can only assume you are making a My Little Pony reference?

Apple pie.

126 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:40:40pm

re: #120 Belafon

When he was really young, it turned out he was pretty good at the drums. So his parents turned him into a pop star.

It was his mother who did that. He didn’t have regular contact with his father until relatively recently. His father does have another much younger son with the woman he ultimately married. A number of photos over the past 18 months have depicted Justin Bieber playing with his baby brother.

/Random add-ons.

128 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:42:44pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Maybe if the partisan pundits invent a Koch-Soros conspiracy theory we’ll get some coverage. That shouldn’t take long, I’m sure there are plenty connections to be explored.

Well, Russian natural gas is sent to Europe via pipelines that run through Ukraine. Perhaps that could be amalgamated with Keystone XL to provide a Koch connection.

/kidding

129 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:42:57pm
130 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:43:13pm

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

Apple pie.

I know, I know, but I hear “Granny Smith” and I think

deviantart.com


And I hear Braeburn and I think

deviantart.com

131 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:44:06pm

Mary Toft and Her Extraordinary Delivery of Rabbits

132 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:45:33pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Well, Russian natural gas is sent to Europe via pipelines that run through Ukraine. Perhaps that could be amalgamated with Keystone XL to provide a Koch connection.

/kidding

Infowars already has the Soros angle covered: Soros Supported Protests Turn Violent in Ukraine

133 BishopX  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:45:55pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Honestly, I think it’s a sign that a) it’s fucking cold over there so no american journalist wants to go. b) There’s not an active Ukrainian contingent in America (no market) so publishers don’t want to pay a lot to cover the story and c) it’s actually rather complicated. there’s a multi-year political corruption scandal/power grab going on, multiple competing parties which don’t break down ideologically and headless protests.

Also, everyone’s name is hard to pronounce.

134 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:47:52pm

Google sreach for “Koch Ukraine” turns up a Nazi administrator. Maybe a distant relative or something.

135 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:49:02pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Infowars already has the Soros angle covered: Soros Supported Protests Turn Violent in Ukraine

George Soros has backed the reform movement in Ukraine for some time. However, its not something he’s kept a secret nor has he done anything wrong in providing such support.

Of course, in some people’s eyes my saying that George Soros is something other than an ogre makes me a “contemptible RINO”.

136 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:51:35pm

re: #133 BishopX

Honestly, I think it’s a sign that a) it’s fucking cold over there so no american journalist wants to go. b) There’s not an active Ukrainian contingent in America (no market) so publishers don’t want to pay a lot to cover the story and c) it’s actually rather complicated. there’s a multi-year political corruption scandal/power grab going on, multiple competing parties which don’t break down ideologically and headless protests.

Also, everyone’s name is hard to pronounce.

good points. I think the complicated narrative is a big factor. Without a side to root for American audiences aren’t much interested.

137 BishopX  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:53:04pm

re: #136 Killgore Trout

Yeah, we don’t like rooting for right-wing nationalists these days.

138 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:53:39pm

re: #136 Killgore Trout

re: #133 BishopX

Honestly, I think it’s a sign that a) it’s fucking cold over there so no american journalist wants to go. b) There’s not an active Ukrainian contingent in America (no market) so publishers don’t want to pay a lot to cover the story and c) it’s actually rather complicated. there’s a multi-year political corruption scandal/power grab going on, multiple competing parties which don’t break down ideologically and headless protests.

Also, everyone’s name is hard to pronounce.

How did we get so soft and shallow? Excess success perhaps. So self absorbed.

139 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:55:07pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

George Soros has backed the reform movement in Ukraine for some time. However, its not something he’s kept a secret nor has he done anything wrong in providing such support.

Of course, in some people’s eyes my saying that George Soros is something other than an ogre makes me a “contemptible RINO”.

Hating Soros isn’t just for wingnuts. Here’s a Western socialist blaming Soros for the right wing extremist uprising: The Struggle for Ukraine - Protests Made in Germany, America and the EU

140 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:56:21pm

And in Dudebro news:

Cody Wilson signs book deal after creating 3D printed gun, finalizes Dark Wallet Bitcoin anonymizer (VIDEO)

After setting the Internet abuzz with a blueprint for a functional 3D-printable firearm, Cody Wilson recently signed a book deal to chronicle his journey, and in his spare time the “dark web” aficionado is placing the finishing touches on a Bitcoin anonymizer project.

SNIP

he law-school dropout has an interesting story to tell and plans to pen the details in his upcoming book, “Negative Liberty,” which he says “won’t be a manifesto,” but will “leave a couple of zingers… for the young, disaffected radical towards his own political and social development.”

When he’s not creating revolutionary new weapons that can be made from home, Wilson works with the libertarian developer group Unsystem, where he places the final touches on the soon-to-be-released Bitcoin anonymizer Dark Wallet.

“If Bitcoin represents anything to us, it’s the ability to forbid the government,” says Wilson. “DarkWallet is your way of locking out the State, flipping the channel to one beyond observation.”

Youtube Video

I’m sure Ayman al-Zawahiri eagerly awaits the release of Dark Wallet.

141 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:57:46pm

re: #138 Political Atheist

How did we get so soft and shallow? Excess success perhaps. So self absorbed.

Self absorption is a factor. But we are also for away and we don’t travel much. The Brits and Europeans are closer to the rest of the world geographically but they are also much more likely to travel to these places or at least know where they are. Americans, not so much.

142 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:01:03pm

143 Belafon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:01:25pm

re: #138 Political Atheist

How did we get so soft and shallow?

Just like the bipartisanship of the post war era was an anomoly for the US, so was knowledge of the world. We’ve never really learned more about the world in this country than we have needed to. For the most part, people just assume the rest of the world is either like the US, or wants to be the US.

144 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:03:41pm

re: #142 Gus

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I find it amusing you used a still from a scene where James T. Kirk is trapped in a cavern with both an object and a product of his libido.

145 Shvaughn  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:04:20pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

It does strike me a bit strange how little interest there is in the Ukraine story. There has been some discussion here so I assumed there would be some interest among progressives. Nope.

Oh, look, wow, it’s Killgore Trout cherrypicking something related to DailyKos to show that progressives just don’t care!

IT MUST BE A DAY THAT ENDS IN Y.

Oh by the way, please remember that Killgore Trout will lie shamelessly in order to push his narratives. Especially when that involves DailyKos.

146 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:08:28pm

147 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:11:32pm

re: #146 Gus

OMyGod!! Take that picture down, Gus!

Anyone got a jug of brain bleach?

148 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:16:20pm

149 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:20:54pm

YES

150 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:21:17pm

re: #148 Gus

*Walks round back, climbs fence*

151 Mattand  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:21:54pm

re: #148 Gus

Well, shit. And here I made cupcakes for everyone.

152 bubba zanetti  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:22:25pm

153 Lidane  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:22:36pm

I knew it was too good to be true. Rick Perry doesn’t actually support decriminalization of weed. He just articulated some frontier “states’ rights” gibberish:

“I am a staunch promoter of the 10th Amendment,” Perry said. States should be able to set their own policies on abortion, same-sex marriage and marijuana legalization, he said, “then people will decide where they want to live.”

IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY YOU INBRED NEO-CONFEDERATE LOON.

WTF. We fought a whole fucking war about this garbage. Let it go already.

154 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:22:41pm

I’ll take a cupcake!!!!

RBS

155 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:22:56pm

re: #149 SpaceJesus

YES

NO!

156 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:24:25pm

Here’s a story that’ll trip Alex Jones’ trigger:

Military gives Utah police MRAP, grenade launchers

The Department of Defense recently gave the Utah Highway Patrol a mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle (MRAP), various weaponry and other military surplus equipment as part of their 1033 Program.

According to an audit conducted April 2013, Utah’s law enforcement agencies have received $2.8 million worth of military gear. In total, 62 local police forces and three statewide agencies have enlisted in the program, but it was the UHP that most recently received an MRAP, The Salt Lake Tribune reports.

“Obviously, it is intimidating,” Utah Highway Patrol Lt. Alex Lepley said of his office’s newly acquired MRAP. “But that isn’t its primary purpose. It’s saving lives. I can drive this right through the middle of a gunfight.”

Since 2011 Utah police have received multiple MRAPs, four grenade launchers, 1,230 rifles, 17 .45-caliber pistols, medical gear, camera equipment, pliers, emergency blankets, and various other equipment.

157 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:25:47pm

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a story that’ll trip Alex Jones’ trigger:

Military gives Utah police MRAP, grenade launchers

GETTING READY FOR THE FEMA CAMPS!!!!

158 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:26:35pm

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a story that’ll trip Alex Jones’ trigger:

Military gives Utah police MRAP, grenade launchers

Pliers? really?

159 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:26:51pm

Oh man, wow. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this.

London Underground: Victoria Line Suspended After Concrete Poured into Control Room

London’s Victoria tube line is currently suspended after an engineering team flooded a control room with fast-setting concrete.

Photos appearing on the UsVsth3m website appear to show a signalling engine room covered in cement, as well as submerged controls panels.

Transport for London (TFL) said contractors were working on the new station in an area next to the Victoria line signal control room. This work involved the use of water and cement which then “leaked into the room” resulting in the disruption.

Hundreds of underground trains are set to be hit by the delays, causing travel chaos for potentially thousands of commuters during peak times.

160 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:28:04pm

re: #158 allegro

Pliers? really?

That’s for fingernail torture. //

161 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:28:33pm

re: #159 Single-handed sailor

Oh man, wow. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this.

London Underground: Victoria Line Suspended After Concrete Poured into Control Room

This would never had happened if they’d had pliers.

162 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:29:13pm

re: #160 Gus

That’s for fingernail torture. //

Oh. I thought it was for tooth extraction.

163 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:30:10pm

re: #159 Single-handed sailor

Oh man, wow. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this.

London Underground: Victoria Line Suspended After Concrete Poured into Control Room

Victoria line is a major artery for the city. That’s going to be a mess.

164 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:30:52pm

If the cops want to ruin your day all they need is a Chrysler K-Car patrol vehicle, billy club, .9mm automatic, and a badge.

165 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:31:37pm

Or even their fists. That whole thing about gear is really kind of meaningless.

166 fern01  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:32:13pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

…

Frankly, I’d like to send Justin Bieber to a well-run boot camp program. He badly needs to learn discipline.

Deport him - why is it the wealthy can act this way & stay in the US - while someone with little money is deported the second they have a minor run in with the law.

167 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:33:13pm

re: #164 Gus

If the cops want to ruin your day all they need is a Chrysler K-Car patrol vehicle, billy club, .9mm automatic, and a badge.

All a cop needs to do to ruin my day is get between me and my coffee like the cop did this morning at the Exxon station (that has really excellent coffee).

168 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:34:21pm

re: #159 Single-handed sailor

Oh man, wow. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this.

London Underground: Victoria Line Suspended After Concrete Poured into Control Room

Well that gotta set the timeline back just a little bit.

RBS

169 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:36:00pm

re: #165 Gus

Or even their fists. That whole thing about gear is really kind of meaningless.

Not really. Cartel enforcers, gangs, or cults sometimes require serious firepower and protection to deal with.

170 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:36:33pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Cartel enforcers, gangs, or cults sometimes require serious firepower and protection to deal with.

Talking about us normal folks, not them.

171 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:36:45pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Cartel enforcers, gangs, or cults sometimes require serious firepower and protection to deal with.

In Utah?

172 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:37:26pm

173 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:38:00pm

re: #171 allegro

In Utah?

Don’t you think if there’s a mass shooter incident an MRAP would be nice to have around?

174 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:38:33pm

re: #171 allegro

Provo. Vitamin & supplements cartel.

175 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:38:35pm

re: #171 allegro

In Utah?

They do have those fundamentalist Mormon sects and parts of Utah might be used as drug transit routes by smugglers.

176 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:39:47pm

re: #173 Gus

Don’t you think if there’s a mass shooter incident an MRAP would be nice to have around?

They’re so handy to drive down school halls and theater aisles.

177 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:40:01pm

re: #165 Gus

“This thing can drive through a gunfight”

If it were just guns over there the MRAP would not exist. What’s wrong with an ordinary armored truck? MRAP. For small town (Banning, CA) police departments that would like to compensate for coming up short. Er… somehow. 5 MPG and it ain’t no hybrid.

178 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:41:04pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

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Richard Nixon was a man who could teach OCP’s board a thing or two about cynical, ruthless tactics. But he was also someone who genuinely wanted to improve the lives of the urban poor in Detroit.

179 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:41:22pm

It’s part of a DOD program. Pentagon falls under Chuck Hagel who falls under the command of President Obama. Complain to him.

180 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:41:30pm

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

They do have those fundamentalist Mormon sects and parts of Utah might be used as drug transit routes by smugglers.

Well that’s that then. Let’s thoroughly militarize our police forces. What could go wrong?

181 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:42:14pm

re: #155 Gus

PERHAPS

182 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:43:09pm

re: #177 Political Atheist

“This thing can drive through a gunfight”

If it were just guns over there the MRAP would not exist. What’s wrong with an ordinary armored truck? MRAP. For small town (Banning, CA) police department that would like to compensate for coming up short. Er… somehow. 5 MPG and it aint ni hybrid.

The MRAPs have already been built and Utah’s Highway Patrol was able to get one essentially free. It’s blast protection also makes it well suited for approaching a suspected bomb.

183 Gus  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:45:19pm

re: #177 Political Atheist

“This thing can drive through a gunfight”

If it were just guns over there the MRAP would not exist. What’s wrong with an ordinary armored truck? MRAP. For small town (Banning, CA) police department that would like to compensate for coming up short. Er… somehow. 5 MPG and it aint ni hybrid.

So those two Fullerton cops that beat that homeless guy to death used an MRAP?

184 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:45:54pm

re: #180 allegro

Well that’s that then. Let’s thoroughly militarize our police forces. What could go wrong?

You asked a question which I answered.

185 jaunte  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:46:10pm

Curiosity wheel damage.

midnightplanets.com

186 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:46:30pm

re: #183 Gus

So those two Fullerton cops that beat that homeless guy to death used an MRAP?

At least they refrained from using the grenade launcher.

187 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:51:01pm

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

Well just my humble opinion, but the real military can damn well afford to store their own tools. Mothball ‘em. Heaven knows what we paid and now they just give them away. As if Banning needs it more than Kabul. WTF?

The MRAP is not a police vehicle. It’s a military vehicle designed for a specific threat. Buried bombs. All SWAT needs is ordinary armored trucks like what we see Brinks or FedEx use. That’s 5 MPG, too much weight for streets and high maintenance costs forever. LAPD had a Bradley. Guess what it’s used for now? It’s a relic. A reminder of a bad idea on display at the police museum.

188 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:54:03pm

Hey I hear some B-52’s are coming up next for retirement. I’m sure they will be much better than helicopters for LAPD.
///

189 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:56:32pm

re: #187 Political Atheist

Well just my humble opinion, but the real military can damn well afford to store their own tools. Mothball ‘em. Heaven knows what we paid and now they just give them away. As if Banning needs it more than Kabul. WTF?

The MRAP is not a police vehicle. It’s a military vehicle designed for a specific threat. Buried bombs. All SWAT needs is ordinary armored trucks like what we see Brinks or FedEx use. That’s 5 MPG, too much weight for streets and high maintenance costs forever. LAPD had a Bradley. Guess what it’s used for now? It’s a relic. A reminder of a bad idea on display at the police museum.

Seriously. I’m all for recycling and re-purposing but WTF? Though I can see a use for pliers and emergency blankets do we really need fucking MRAPs and grenade launchers in the hands of our police forces? This is lunacy.

190 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:00:28pm

re: #187 Political Atheist

Well just my humble opinion, but the real military can damn well afford to store their own tools. Mothball ‘em. Heaven knows what we paid and now they just give them away. As if Banning needs it more than Kabul. WTF?

The MRAP is not a police vehicle. It’s a military vehicle designed for a specific threat. Buried bombs. All SWAT needs is ordinary armored trucks like what we see Brinks or FedEx use. That’s 5 MPG, too much weight for streets and high maintenance costs forever. LAPD had a Bradley. Guess what it’s used for now? It’s a relic. A reminder of a bad idea on display at the police museum.

SWAT vehicles are getting less like Brinks trucks and more like MRAPs anyways. The results of IED attacks against older armored vehicles have been analyzed and newer designs have incorporated the lessons learned. War stimulates technological change and in this case that change involves improved blast protection.

Moreover, in cases of a suspected IED or even for a meth lab an MRAP’s blast protection might be the difference between life and death.

191 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:00:46pm
192 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:04:10pm

MSNBC interrupts Congresswoman for report on Justin Bieber
Youtube Video

193 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:04:39pm

re: #189 allegro

Seriously. I’m all for recycling and re-purposing but WTF? Though I can see a use for pliers and emergency blankets do we really need fucking MRAPs and grenade launchers in the hands of our police forces? This is lunacy.

Rotary grenade launchers can also be used to fire tea gas rounds, pepper spray rounds, ‘rubber shot’ rounds and ‘rubber baton’ rounds. They are effective riot control delivery systems. Honestly, its unlikely the UHP was given any high explosive rounds.

194 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:05:43pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Well okay just two questions. Here in the USA- What IED attacks? And why SWAT rather than bomb squads? The only valid argument for them I think any way is the price,

Short term cheap long term costly.

195 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:07:55pm

re: #194 Political Atheist

Well okay just two questions. Here in the USA- What IED attacks? And why SWAT rather than bomb squads? The only valid argument for them I think any way is the price,

Short term cheap long term costly.

1. All homemade bombs are IEDs. What I was considering was a scenario where an MRAP was used to approach a suspected bomb.

2. The MRAP could be used by both units.

196 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:08:02pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

Rotary grenade launchers can also be used to fire tea gas rounds, pepper spray rounds, ‘rubber shot’ rounds and ‘rubber baton’ rounds. They are effective riot control delivery systems. Honestly, its unlikely the UHP was given any high explosive rounds.

Full preparation for the next OWS protests then. I feel much better now.

197 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:10:31pm

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

1. All homemade bombs are IEDs. What I was considering was a scenario where an MRAP was used to approach a suspected bomb.

2. The MRAP could be used by both units.

Wouldn’t a bomb guy still have to get out to attend to/disable the bomb or send in a bomb robot?

198 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:10:52pm

re: #196 allegro

Full preparation for the next OWS protests then. I feel much better now.

They’ll make Killgore happy, though.

199 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:12:11pm

re: #197 allegro

Wouldn’t a bomb guy still have to get out to attend to/disable the bomb or send in a bomb robot?

The robot can be deployed out the rear hatch with the MRAP facing the suspected bomb. The robot can then be controlled remotely while the operator remains protected within the vehicle.

200 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:12:43pm

A more basic question.

What are the direct expenses of maintaining an MRAP even if its unused, and what are the subsidiary expenses that would arise from its use (such as gas, road damage).

I mean, up front, it’s free, but what’s the back end, particularly if it’s going somewhere where maintenance is cutting into a small county budget.

201 Kragar  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:15:39pm
202 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:16:05pm

Ugh. Just got up to come turn off the computer for the night and saw this on Twitter. Going to bed, don’t wanna think about bombs right now::

203 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:16:56pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

They could deploy a robot out of a soccer moms van. Dude, it’s overkill. Squared. Hell Sochi needs then more than small town USA.

204 allegro  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:18:44pm

re: #200 The Ghost of a Flea

A more basic question.

What are the direct expenses of maintaining an MRAP even if its unused, and what are the subsidiary expenses that would arise from its use (such as gas, road damage).

I mean, up front, it’s free, but what’s the back end, particularly if it’s going somewhere where maintenance is cutting into a small county budget.

So a small county gets this MRAP. Expense aside, WTF? Oh, lordy, Johnny set off another stink bomb in the high school locker! Send in the MRAP! Have we really gone that insane?

205 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:19:42pm

re: #202 CuriousLurker

Ugh. Just got up to come turn off the computer for the night and saw this on Twitter. Going to bed, don’t wanna think about bombs right now::

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Reuters confirming the explosion, no details yet.

206 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:21:54pm

re: #200 The Ghost of a Flea

A more basic question.

What are the direct expenses of maintaining an MRAP even if its unused, and what are the subsidiary expenses that would arise from its use (such as gas, road damage).

I mean, up front, it’s free, but what’s the back end, particularly if it’s going somewhere where maintenance is cutting into a small county budget.

That I’d have to research. I should note though that this particular MRAP is owned by a state agency. However, another MRAP was recently transferred to the Fort Pierce, FL police department.

207 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:24:43pm

re: #202 CuriousLurker

Hi CL.

How goes it with the new DSLR?

208 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:24:54pm

re: #205 Killgore Trout

Reuters confirming the explosion, no details yet.

You did like the part about using 40mm launchers to fire pepper rounds at OWS protests, didn’t you? ;)

209 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:27:03pm

re: #202 CuriousLurker

Make the MB pay. Hard

210 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:31:27pm

re: #209 The War TARDIS

Make the MB pay. Hard

The Egyptian government’s been doing that, but rooting those dirtbags out isn’t quick or easy.

211 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:44:43pm

re: #209 The War TARDIS

Make the MB pay. Hard

Killgore has some more details upstairs.

212 Ming  Thu, Jan 23, 2014 10:06:16pm

About Dinesh D’Souza, I’m embarrassed to say that I actually purchased his DVD, 2016. I was thinking about doing a business deal with a right-wing guy whom I really liked (although I decided to back out of the potential deal). But I really did like this person, and he implored me to watch the 2016 DVD. I wanted to appreciate his point of view (OK, I already said I’m embarrassed), so I bought the DVD on amazon (please don’t do the same) and watched it (yet another mistake).

D’Souza’s DVD was one of the saddest exercises in self-insult I’ve ever seen. One particularly sad scene was when D’Souza, narrating to the camera, COMPLAINED that he and his video crew had to sneak up on Barack Obama’s various friends and relatives, because those people invariably tended to avoid him. He said this as if those people were treating him unfairly! Of course, those people were, very simply, responding as any civilized person would respond to unwanted harassment by a hateful, delusional nutjob.

213 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 5:58:57am

re: #40 jaunte

Ben has parted ways with reality.

Unlike liberals, conservatives don’t believe societal standards must be legislated.

So, I just couldn’t help but seize on this. What do Republicans do with government, but make laws, to enforce their social standards? I’m trying to figure out just how fucking retarded Ben Shapiro actually is.

214 KiTA  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 8:23:37am

re: #1 The Ghost of a Flea

So his acumen at electioneering is on par with his skill at political analysis, history, anthropology, sociology, documentary making, marital fidelity…..

I dunno, his scam to get Bill Maher off the air a few years back worked quite well. D’Souza is kinda a proto-O’Keefe.

215 Ryan King  Sat, Jan 25, 2014 5:11:18am

Just asking questions. Uh huh.


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