Law Firm Drops Mark Steyn and National Review in Climate Change Denial Suit

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Lawyers depart after Mark Steyn insults the judge in his defamation lawsuit on-air.

Weisberg’s order is just the latest in a string of setbacks, which have left the climate-change skeptics’ case in disarray. Earlier this month, Steptoe & Johnson, the law firm representing the National Review and its writer, Mark Steyn, withdrew as Steyn’s counsel. According to two sources with inside knowledge, it also plans to drop the National Review as a client.

The lawyers’ withdrawal came shortly after Steyn—a prominent conservative pundit, who regularly fills in as host of Rush Limbaugh’s radio show—publicly attacked the former judge in the case, Natalia Combs Greene, accusing her of “stupidity” and “staggering” incompetence. Mann’s attorney, John B. Williams, suspects this is no coincidence. “Any lawyer would be taken aback if their client said such things about the judge,” he says. “That may well be why Steptoe withdrew.”

Steyn’s manager, Melissa Howes, acknowledged that his commentary “did not go over well with the judge.” But Steyn maintains it was his decision to part ways with his attorneys.

More from Mariah Blake at Mother Jones: A Coup for the Climate Scientist Whom Skeptics Compared to Jerry Sandusky

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84 comments
1 Joanne  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 7:47:04am

Honestly, these “conservatives” just cannot help themselves. They just say whatever they want, usually with no consequences.

Let’s hope consequences finally catch up with them.

2 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 8:37:25am
The lawyers’ withdrawal came shortly after Steyn—a prominent conservative pundit, who regularly fills in as host of Rush Limbaugh’s radio show—publicly attacked the former judge in the case, Natalia Combs Greene, accusing her of “stupidity” and “staggering” incompetence.

The swaggering pissants of the far right continue to destroy their own credibility. Protip for dumb-fuck Mark Steyn: if you’re arguing a case in court, be sure to respect the judge you’re arguing in front of, instead of turning everything into your own personal toddler-age hissyfit.

On the other hand, just keep being a jackass, Mark. You’re making a marvelous case that you can’t be trusted or even believed.

3 Skip Intro  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 9:10:45am

I see Steyn is a product of the Orly Taitz school of law which teaches the best way to impress the judge is to slander them repeatedly.

4 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:16:02am

Steyn used to be a columnist here in Toronto for the Toronto Stun, I mean Sun.

He was an arrogant, pompous, vicious little prick even then. Like too many people claiming the title ‘conservative’ he’s clawing for the bottom go human behaviour.

5 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:16:06am

re: #1 Joanne

Honestly, these “conservatives” just cannot help themselves. They just say whatever they want, usually with no consequences.

Let’s hope consequences finally catch up with them.

Because they learned early in the game that there were few consequences: the GOP did not dare to denounce or distance themselves from them for fear of being shouted down at town hall meetings, media outlets continued to run stories by discredited journalists and they found that anyone who voiced any criticism, however contrived or unfounded, of the Obama administration received glowing praise for his “courage” and “willingness to stand up for his conservative principles”.

6 Kragar  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:16:52am

I can’t wait to see Steyn crushed.

7 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:19:58am

Years ago, I made the mistake of appealing to Mark Steyn in a private email to renounce Pamela Geller’s bigotry.

He promptly turned over my email to Pamela Geller, who published it at her hate site. Lesson learned.

8 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:20:05am

re: #6 Kragar

I can’t wait to see Steyn crushed.

To see him driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of his women?

/

9 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:20:28am

I hope this defamation suit bankrupts Steyn.

10 jaunte  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:25:10am
“As readers may have deduced from my absence at National Review Online and my termination of our joint representation, there have been a few differences between me and the rest of the team.”

So you can’t be a constant dick to everyone and still keep some allies? Who knew.

11 Lidane  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:25:26am
Steyn’s manager, Melissa Howes, acknowledged that his commentary “did not go over well with the judge.”

Gee, ya think?

No wonder the lawyers dumped him. I wouldn’t want anything to do with a client that stupid either.

12 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:31:49am

re: #11 Lidane

Gee, ya think?

No wonder the lawyers dumped him. I wouldn’t want anything to do with a client that stupid either.

I think this toxic movement is finally eating itself. IMHO, most of this last 30 years of political movement has been driven by a single thing: self-centered greed, and the people who think they are simply entitled to it all. It’s been the Plague of Bullies and Users, the people who stampede through you city, and town, and country and wreck everything in sight and then run off for the next big thing. I don’t know what to call it, but it looks like it happens to us every couple of generations or so.

Another way I’ve been visualizing it is as if all the stupid, greedy, lazy, useless, toxically destructive folks decided to get together and make the world work for them, regardless of the fact that it actually doesn’t.

13 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:33:19am

Meanwhile, Jake Tapper is shamelessly sucking up to Glenn Greenwald on Twitter.

14 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:37:15am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Is something up with Pages this morning? Can’t seem to make one despite a reboot.

15 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:42:13am

More interesting developments.

16 Kragar  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:42:52am
17 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:44:03am

re: #14 Political Atheist

Is something up with Pages this morning? Can’t seem to make one despite a reboot.

Just posted one myself. We did have some kind of server issue earlier when I was out, but it seems to be resolved now.

18 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:44:21am

re: #16 Kragar

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Yeah Bryan, isn’t one of the lines we hear all the time about how a right, like to be able to choose whether one will be insured or not, is something that the states or individuals have a say on?

19 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:45:33am

re: #16 Kragar

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Bryan, you have the right to be obsessed with sodomy. But not to prevent it between consenting adults. That is the current state of the law and its application.

20 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:47:03am

re: #11 Lidane

Gee, ya think?

No wonder the lawyers dumped him. I wouldn’t want anything to do with a client that stupid either.

They struck the ‘with the judge’ part of that quote. Note at the bottom of the current version:

Correction: A previous version of this story mistakenly quoted Howes as saying that Steyn’s commentary did not go over well with the judge. We regret the error.

Makes no difference as far as I can tell.

21 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:48:09am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Hm. Just tried again-Win7, Chrome

aclu.org

I’ll try from another workstation later.

22 Ryan King  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:48:14am

I have a giant Polar Vortex of Shadenfruede going right now.

Steyn will still turn this into fodder for his schtick, but I have to laugh when he gets nailed. I hope Mann hammers him, really hard.

23 jaunte  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:49:01am
24 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:50:11am

re: #21 Political Atheist

Hm. Just tried again-Win7, Chrome

aclu.org

I’ll try from another workstation later.

What happens when you try to post?

25 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:51:24am

When your client insults and attempts to smear the judge who is hearing his case, it’s time, as an officer of the court, that you get rid of a client who does that and doesn’t listen to your advice. If it took place in court, it would be called contempt. Lawyers are expected to ensure that their clients commit no crimes, any actions, or say anything publicly which will impact the case negatively that they’re trying to defend.

Lawyer tend to remember this, because they’re in it to win cases, not lose them.

I’m sick of those like Steyn who have absolutely no respect for anyone—and as it turns out, even for themselves. He is just scum who doesn’t know when to STFU for his own benefit.

I hope he winds up in the food stamp line. Tired of these pigs who make lots of money from their reactionary bullshit.

26 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:51:32am
27 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:51:42am

The “mind” of a RWNJ: Steyn simply cannot disagree with someone, he has to compare a Ph.D scientist to Jerry Sandusky.

28 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:51:55am

re: #22 Ryan King

I have a giant Polar Vortex of Shadenfruede going right now.

Steyn will still turn this into fodder for his schtick, but I have to laugh when he gets nailed. I hope Mann hammers him, really hard.

Local weather doesn’t prove/disprove global warming.

But if you’re (and by you, I mean global warming denialists) going to claim that the polar vortex is proof global warming doesn’t exist, explain the record heat in Australia, the record heat in NYC just a week ago (in between the two polar vortices), and the fact that it’s warmer in Alaska than NYC. Or Florida.

Fact is that global temperature averages show an indisputable increase over time - it’s trending up. And the last 30+ years of global temps have all been above the long term averages.

29 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:52:07am
Earlier this month, Steptoe & Johnson, the law firm representing the National Review and its writer, Mark Steyn, withdrew as Steyn’s counsel.

I guess you could say Steyn stepped on their toes.

OOOOOOOhh

I’ll be here all day.

30 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:52:31am

I hope when Dark gets back from his interview he has a job and an apology for ever linking to NRO, and to Mark Steyn in particular.

Or at least a job.

:-)

31 jaunte  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:52:42am

re: #27 Dr. Matt

As a prose stylist, he’s Operation Market Garden.

32 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:54:16am

re: #31 jaunte

As a prose stylist, he’s Operation Market Garden.

Hey, that was going swimmingly until the bad guys starting shooting.

33 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:54:47am
I hope when Dark gets back from his interview he has a job and an apology for ever linking to NRO, and to Mark Steyn in particular.

Or at least a job.

And learns to be more discerning in who he reads and recommends. So far, his record stinks.

34 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:54:51am

Rule 1 of lawyering: Never piss off the judge.
Rule 1 of being a client: Don’t piss off your attorney.

Steyn violated both rules.

Super move there Steyn. That will go a long way to making friends and influencing people. Well, it’s influencing people alright, but not in the way you want.

It’s revealing your true self. And it’s not a pretty sight.

FWIW, Rule 1a of lawyering is never ever commingle/mishandle client funds - that’s the quickest way to disbarment.

35 The War TARDIS  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:55:38am

Things aren’t looking good for the Scottish Independence Referendum:

Cowdenbeath by-election, 2014

Labour Alex Rowley 11,192 55.78 +9.28
SNP Natalie McGarry 5,704 28.43 -13.17
Conservative Dave Dempsey 1,893 9.44 +2.44
UKIP Denise Baykal 610 3.04 N/A
Liberal Democrats Jade Holden 425 2.12 -1.78
The Victims Final Right Stuart Graham 187 0.93 N/A
SDA James Trolland 51 0.25 N/A

SNP lost over 30% of its support.

36 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:56:09am

Some helpful context here: This is the one map you need to understand Ukraine’s crisis

37 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:56:10am

Steyn’s just marking his territory. Alpha man! Beta judge!

38 Ace-o-aces  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:56:13am
Steyn, meanwhile, appears to be paying a price for his brazenness. He still has no legal representation….since his Christmas Eve diatribe, the conservative pundit—who had been writing near-daily posts for the National Review Online—hasn’t written a single item. Neither he nor the magazine’s publisher, Jack Fowler, would say why.

I suspect Steyn may be joining his pal Derbyshire over at V-Dare soon.

39 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:57:05am

re: #34 lawhawk

Rule 1 of lawyering: Never piss off the judge.
Rule 1 of being a client: Don’t piss off your attorney.

Steyn violated both rules.

Super move there Steyn. That will go a long way to making friends and influencing people. Well, it’s influencing people alright, but not in the way you want.

It’s revealing your true self. And it’s not a pretty sight.

FWIW, Rule 1a of lawyering is never ever commingle/mishandle client funds - that’s the quickest way to disbarment.

A former attorney I knew did just that. Apparently there was a random audit (does that sound right?) and it showed up. Dead in the water.

RBS

40 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:57:22am

re: #35 The War TARDIS

lol, the UK independence party outpolled the Liberal Democrats in Scotland

41 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:58:18am

re: #37 Aqua Obama

Steyn’s just marking his territory. Alpha man! Beta judge!

Beta female judge. Sure, he would have insulted a male judge the same way…..not.

42 The War TARDIS  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 10:59:41am

re: #40 Aqua Obama

Yeah, that’s pretty bad.

Even the Conservatives got a pickup for the SNP! Not a huge one, but it looks like the referendum will fail.

Hopefully that question won’t be coming back after it goes down in flames.

43 darthstar  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:00:19am

Nice day at Mavericks for a competition.

44 Ace-o-aces  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:00:48am

re: #27 Dr. Matt

The “mind” of a RWNJ: Steyn simply cannot disagree with someone, he has to compare a Ph.D scientist to Jerry Sandusky.

I remember last year the Heartland institute put up billboards comparing climate scientists to the Uni-bomber. That proved too much for even the RWNJs and they had to take it down.

45 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:01:08am
46 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:01:20am

re: #43 darthstar

I was wondering why the new Mac OS had such a weird name and wave imagery and stuff then I was like oh

47 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:03:36am

re: #45 Dr Lizardo

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Oblasts falling to protesters, reports of cops and soldiers either refusing to accept orders to put down the protests or even joining the protesters, and Russia presently choosing to remain on the sidelines.

Something tells me Yanik will be lucky if he gets out of this alive.

48 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:04:10am

Hello. Just wanted to say,

FUCK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Thanks for listening.

49 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:04:40am

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Some helpful context here: This is the one map you need to understand Ukraine’s crisis

Just please remember this when you find those trying to describe this as an “ultra nationalist” or “fascist” movement. While there may be those elements in one form or another, those people don’t run the entire show—it’s far more complicated than that designation.

50 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:06:08am

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

Just please remember this when you find those trying to describe this as an “ultra nationalist” or “fascist” movement. While there may be those elements in one form or another, those people don’t run the entire show—it’s far more complicated than that designation.

Yes, very complicated. lots of variables but it’s always interesting to learn.

51 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:06:58am

Huckabee signed state legislation in 2005 that required all health insurance plans providing prescription drug coverage to cover contraceptives

Huckabee signed state legislation in 2005 that required all health insurance plans providing prescription drug coverage to cover contraceptive drugs and devices as well. According to the Arkansas Times, Huckabee’s exemption for religious organizations was actually narrower than the exemption in the Affordable Care Act:

But like the original federal regulation proposed by Obama, the Arkansas law did not exempt church-affiliated hospitals and universities. It exempts only “religious employers” that are nonprofit organizations whose primary mission is “the inculcation of religious values,” and primarily employ people who share the same religion, a standard few Catholic hospitals meet.

52 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:08:34am

re: #47 Targetpractice

Oblasts falling to protesters, reports of cops and soldiers either refusing to accept orders to put down the protests or even joining the protesters, and Russia presently choosing to remain on the sidelines.

Something tells me Yanik will be lucky if he gets out of this alive.

He can always fly to Moscow if the heat gets to be too much. And more than likely, he’ll pull an Idi Amin while he’s at it and loot the Central Bank before he splits.

53 Aqua Obama  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:09:29am

According to the Russians, you (EU swine) are a bunch of Nazi Homosexual Emo Drug-Addict Gremlins

Image: LDDGQeK.jpg

54 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:09:33am

Ukrainian opposition activist missing

A prominent Ukrainian opposition activist has been reported missing in Kiev following the apparent abductions of two other opponents of President Viktor Yanukovych, one of whom was found dead.

Dmytro Bulatov is a 35-year-old activist from the Avtomaidan group, car drivers who hold motorcade protests against Yanukovych. He was reported missing by his wife late on Thursday, Kiev police said.

Bulatov’s disappearance comes after the two-month protests escalated into deadly clashes with police and as other activists were going into hiding or even leaving the country.

Activists are ‘really concerned about Dmytro Bulatov’s disappearance,’ said Sergiy Klein, another Avtomaidan member, adding that he himself had left Ukraine for Germany on Thursday.

Activists wrote on social networking websites that Bulatov, who acts as a spokesman for Avtomaidan, had stopped responding to phone calls on Wednesday.

56 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:11:03am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

I get the spinning wheel Loading message in the window

57 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:11:52am
58 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:14:10am
59 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:16:40am
60 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:17:14am

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Some helpful context here: This is the one map you need to understand Ukraine’s crisis

61 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:18:10am

Dear RNC, blow me. Thanks.

62 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:20:19am

Republican History

2001-2008 NSA - National Security Agency
2009-Present NSA - Negro Security Agency

63 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:21:32am

re: #60 wrenchwench

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Agreed. The title oversells the importance of the map but it’s important context I hadn’t seen covered before.

64 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:22:28am
65 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:22:58am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

What happens when you try to post?

Ah, fixed. oddly enough a database optimization run interfered. My end, sorry to trouble ya.

66 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:23:00am
67 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:24:05am

Can’t say I remember the GOP getting overly worked up over the possibility of the NSA being abusive with its powers after the passage of the Patriot Act. Or at any time since being that strongly against renewing the Act.

68 The War TARDIS  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:25:54am

re: #60 wrenchwench

I wonder if Ukraine will split in two?

69 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:27:30am

re: #64 Gus

They’re calling for investigations? How about the GOP calling the following to testify:

senate.gov (passed US Senate 98-1, the one person being Russ Feingold).

clerk.house.gov (211 GOPers approved, versus 3 opposed, including Ron Paul; 145 Democrats approved versus 66 opposed).

Issa can investigate himself. He voted for. So too did Boehner.

70 Kragar  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:27:37am
71 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:29:39am

re: #69 lawhawk

They’re calling for investigations? How about the GOP calling the following to testify:

senate.gov (passed US Senate 98-1, the one person being Russ Feingold).

clerk.house.gov (211 GOPers approved, versus 3 opposed, including Ron Paul; 145 Democrats approved versus 66 opposed).

Issa can investigate himself. He voted for. So too did Boehner.

Kill me now!

72 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:29:56am

re: #69 lawhawk

They’re calling for investigations? How about the GOP calling the following to testify:
Link
senate.gov (passed US Senate 98-1, the one person being Russ Feingold).

clerk.house.gov (211 GOPers approved, versus 3 opposed, including Ron Paul; 145 Democrats approved versus 66 opposed).

Issa can investigate himself. He voted for. So too did Boehner.

And they weren’t so broken up about as little as 3 years ago:

GOP struggles for PATRIOT Act votes

House Republican leaders are aggressively lobbying rank-and-file GOP lawmakers to pass a long-term extension of the Patriot Act, a Bush-era anti-terrorism law that has already provided Republicans with an embarrassing defeat early in their majority.

A high-profile test looms Thursday when the House Judiciary Committee takes up the legislation and the internal debate among Republicans reveals that the 90-day extension passed in February hasn’t mollified all concerns among some conservatives about the domestic surveillance law.

Republican leaders have had to play up the death of Osama bin Laden — and fears of retaliation by Al Qaeda following the May 1 U.S. raid that killed him — as reasons for extending the controversial legislation, arguing that American counterterrorism experts need the authority granted them under the Patriot Act in order to thwart any plots against the U.S.

73 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:30:03am

re: #66 Gus

Well, it’s no different than their former position on the individual mandate. They were all for it, up until it became expedient for them to oppose it, including claiming constitutional problems that they previously dismissed or otherwise had no qualms about.

It’s cognitive dissonance mixed with craven politics.

They now think that opposing the NSA is good thing since it will undermine the President and Democrats’ positions on the NSA. Except that it once again exposes the GOP as political opportunists who couldn’t care about national security (see how you can flip that usual sad trope on its head when it’s the GOP who usually hits the Democrats for being soft on national security).

74 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:31:22am

More signs control is slipping away from Yanukovych.

75 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:31:39am

Finally Paged

Texas has broken international agreements with this execution of a Mexican national. Truly a sad situation.

BTW Charles-The auto fill feature would not work. I put this together “manually”. For some reason that particular url won’t auto Page. Maybe my end but LGF, Wired and CNN all auto Page just fine. Weird.

aclu.org

76 Gus  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:32:32am

Project for the New American Century

Good times. Ah, memories.

77 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:32:47am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

More signs control is slipping away from Yanukovych.

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So now even the government mouthpieces are calling it quits. Yanik, I think it’s time that you noticed the writing on the wall.

78 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:33:46am

re: #70 Kragar

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Odd. I just went over there—no problems. But then, this:

Problems with GMail - Eto Problems in Google.


I think it’s up again. Just a wrinkle in the e-niverse.

79 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:34:12am

re: #77 Targetpractice

So now even the government mouthpieces are calling it quits. Yanik, I think it’s time that you noticed the writing on the wall.

Nicolae Ceaucescu didn’t notice the writing on the wall until shortly before he was stood up in front of it, along with his wife.

80 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:34:38am

re: #64 Gus

Investigation? Let me give them a hint:

Go get wording of Patriot Act and subsequent re-authorizations. Investigation done!

81 Mattand  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:39:53am

Was just reading over the Mother Jones article in the original post.

I just do not understand why people want to be associated with conservatism these days. The whole movement, whether it’s climate change, women’s rights, gay rights, whatever, is just off the fucking rails.

I try really hard to adhere to the whole “a few bad apples” cliché, but Jesus Christ; what am I supposed to do when the allegedly good apples are sitting by with their thumbs up their asses?

82 Lidane  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:40:17am

re: #66 Gus

So more breathtaking hypocrisy from the Republicans?

Must be a day that ends in y.

83 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 11:54:19am

re: #69 lawhawk

(passed US Senate 98-1, the one person being Russ Feingold).

That single fact will always get him my gratitude and my vote for anything he’d care to run for.

84 Ryan King  Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:09:53pm

re: #28 lawhawk

I agree. Also note, the western half of the US is totally baking and in drought. CA is catching up to Texas.

And it’s just getting started.


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