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1 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:31:11pm

If the video comes up blank, reload and it will be there.

2 lawhawk  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:34:19pm

I’m a happy camper. The Mrs. is making one-mug brownies. Yum.

3 Gus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:35:07pm
4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:37:24pm
5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:39:43pm

What you’re seeing in the video above, by the way, is absolutely perfect classical guitar technique. So precise it’s scary.

6 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:43:12pm

re: #3 Gus

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I haven’t seen the open gloating part yet but I paused at her claim that the Bostom bombers were changed with “weapons of mass destruction” because they’re muslims and shoud have been charged like white non-muslims. She cites Tim McVeigh as an example.
en.wikipedia.org

On August 10, 1995, McVeigh was indicted on 11 federal counts, including conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, use of a weapon of mass destruction, destruction by explosives and eight counts of first-degree murder

7 Internet Tough Guy  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:01:29pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Fascists tend to be horrible people.

8 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:03:58pm
9 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:07:05pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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That just creeps me out.

10 b.d.  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:08:04pm

re: #3 Gus

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Russia Today, go figure. Gotta pay the piper.

11 thedopefishlives  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:09:12pm

Evening Lizardim from the highly windy wild north country. How go things in the war on derp?

12 Gus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:09:47pm

As you probably heard.

“Grammys to Feature On-Air Weddings of 34 Couples”

Stand by for wingnut outrageous outrage!

13 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:12:41pm
14 nines09  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:13:07pm

re: #10 b.d.

Russia Today, go figure. Gotta pay the piper.

They have a template. It’s called Fox News.

15 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:15:57pm

I think I like this guy. He’s in Houston, working, but I take it he’s not from there. He may have Ukrainian lineage, from his name.

twitter.com

Keeping up w/Ukraine as well. Showing the 200-250 people who showed up to support Euromaidans in Houston. Evidently there is a Ukrainian community there.

uacch.net

16 b.d.  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:17:13pm

That Radack is nothing but class:

17 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:20:13pm

Pink Floyd

Echoes

listening to Meddle on Youtube.

Fucking epic. Which coincidentally started the Fucking Epic era of Pink Floyd’s evolution as musicians. Waters and Mason do some bad ass shit on Bass and Drums respectively on this track.

18 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:22:22pm

re: #16 b.d.

That Radack is nothing but class:

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Quite the overachiever.

“Nat’l Sec & Human Rights Dir. at Gov’t Acct Proj, mom, whistleblower, 1st Amend. absolutist, lawyer, ethicist, blogger, yogi, feminist, pundit. Tweets R my own.”

Does them all at one time, too. The word “absolutist” almost stopped my clock, though.

19 Petero1818  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:27:44pm

re: #18 Justanotherhuman

Quite the overachiever.

”
Does them all at one time, too. The word “absolutist” almost stopped my clock, though.

Kettloneist sounded too pretentious.

20 b.d.  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:28:31pm

re: #18 Justanotherhuman

Quite the overachiever.

“Nat’l Sec & Human Rights Dir. at Gov’t Acct Proj, mom, whistleblower, 1st Amend. absolutist, lawyer, ethicist, blogger, yogi, feminist, pundit. Tweets R my own.”

Does them all at one time, too. The word “absolutist” almost stopped my clock, though.

She’s the most obnoxious, close minded, hateful yogi I’ve ever stumbled upon.

21 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:28:36pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Why are all these Wikileaks-associated people so horrible?

For the same reason the wingnuts are so horrible. They know they are right. They know anything done to pursue their goals is right. They know things will be perfect and wonderful when the revolution comes.

And they’ll be the big dogs in this new world.

Fanatics are like that.

22 Gus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:31:28pm

“Daddy? What’s a Macklemore?”

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:32:48pm

Aw shucks, our climate denier friend did the usual “you libruls can’t HANDLE THE TRUTH!” thing. I was almost hoping he’d try to argue a little bit.

We need a better class of troll.

24 Chrysicat  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:33:56pm

re: #22 Gus

re: #22 Gus

“Daddy? What’s a Macklemore?”

For one thing, a spoiler for me. Looks like I’ll have to avoid the net until 10 tonight so that every Grammy winner isn’t spoiled (or, CBS, you could, y’know, stop tape-delaying for everyone west of Kansas…)

25 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:36:53pm
26 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:40:26pm
27 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:43:22pm
28 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:46:19pm

LOL

30 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:48:20pm

re: #3 Gus

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A blond who can defending the indefensible. She’ll be great on Fox News.

31 Gus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:49:12pm

“Where’s the song? Why aren’t they singing?”

32 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:49:27pm

All I can do is wait for Shameless.

Anyone else watch that one?

33 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:51:26pm

re: #17 subterraneanhomesickalien

Pink Floyd

Echoes

listening to Meddle on Youtube.

Fucking epic. Which coincidentally started the Fucking Epic era of Pink Floyd’s evolution as musicians. Waters and Mason do some bad ass shit on Bass and Drums respectively on this track.

And no I don’t think the Sy Barret era was that good.

Starting at 5:00 the greatest guitar solo in history. I experience the same feeling every single time, since the first time I heard it. It just seizes my body in total ecstasy. And no, I’m not on drugs. : )

Youtube Video

34 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:51:31pm

Shameless

35 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:51:50pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

All I can do is wait for Shameless.

Anyone else watch that one?

I do at times. In large part because the series is set in Chicago and they actually do shoot the exterior shots in Chi-town.

36 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:53:03pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

I do at times. In large part because the series is set in Chicago and they actually do shoot the exterior shots in Chi-town.

I totally think of you during.

The Gallagher’s neighborhood….Northside?

37 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:55:35pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

I could not agree more. I still shake me head every time I hear Gilmour’s solo thinking “Sweet Jesus, that is STILL the most amazing thing I have ever heard in my life.” I still think that to this day. Gilmour, you are #DIESEL.

38 Gus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:57:55pm

To this day I still find it amusing how people will say rockstar “X” plays the most amazing guitar. No thanks. Not my cup of tea.

39 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:04:03pm

re: #38 Gus

Music effects individuals in different ways I suppose. Thanks for commenting. :)

40 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:04:22pm
41 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:07:06pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

gilmourish.com

42 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:08:20pm

re: #38 Gus

To this day I still find it amusing how people will say rockstar “X” plays the most amazing guitar. No thanks. Not my cup of tea.

I would never say it about that particular piece if it wasn’t almost orgasmic. I tend to feel music—but that one makes me listen very closely, also, to every single note. That’s how good I think it is.

44 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:14:59pm

re: #42 Justanotherhuman

Bingo. Most people hear but don’t listen to music. On this particular song, Gilmour grabs you and doesn’t let go, hence we’re still talking about it in such revered terms 34 years later. It’s 2 minutes of heaven, Gus. Trust us.

45 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:22:36pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

I totally think of you during.

The Gallagher’s neighborhood….Northside?

No, they’re South Side Irish.

The concrete pillar structure of the ‘L’ tracks seen in Shameless is not found on the North Side of Chicago. The Red Line south of Lawrence and the Brown Line up till Western use steel elevated track structures. The tracks near the house shown as the Gallagher house are likely are part of the Orange Line, which starts at Midway International Airport, circles the Loop, and then heads back to Midway. They could also be part of the Green Line after it splits in two, but I’ve never ridden the Green Line south of 35th Street so I can’t speak to what kind of tracks are down there.

46 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:26:03pm

re: #37 Kid A

The funk section that starts around eight minutes in, with the baseline from Waters and with Wrights keyboards is just awesome.

Try not to move your feet and nod your head to the rhythm of that shit.

47 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:27:37pm

re: #46 subterraneanhomesickalien

Nice Radiohead reference, by the way.

48 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:28:17pm

re: #47 Kid A

You as well.

49 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:28:19pm

What does Google have in mind?

Exclusive: Google to Buy Artificial Intelligence Startup DeepMind for $400M

recode.net’

Youtube Video

50 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:33:59pm

Gilmour is a slow handed god, but I think its the rhythm section that sets Echoes apart.

51 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:35:48pm

re: #50 subterraneanhomesickalien

What’s your favorite Radiohead album? Mine is not Kid A, by the way. Lol

52 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:36:26pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

All I can do is wait for Shameless.

Anyone else watch that one?

Yeah I’m a couple eps behind though since I was out of town for last week’s episode. Frank is such a different role for Macy but he’s great in it. And not to take anything away from her acting but Emmy Rossum is a very attractive woman.

53 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:36:35pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

No, they’re South Side Irish.

The concrete pillar structure of the ‘L’ tracks seen in Shameless is not found on the North Side of Chicago. The Red Line south of Lawrence and the Brown Line up till Western use steel elevated track structures. The tracks near the house shown as the Gallagher house are likely are part of the Orange Line, which starts at Midway International Airport, circles the Loop, and then heads back to Midway. They could also be part of the Green Line after it splits in two, but I’ve never ridden the Green Line south of 35th Street so I can’t speak to what kind of tracks are down there.

Thanks Dark.

54 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:37:08pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m a couple eps behind though since I was out of town for last week’s episode. Frank is such a different role for Macy but he’s great in it. And not to take anything away from her acting but Emmy Rossum is a very attractive woman.

its on now. Sheila’s Christian dating.

I love this show.

55 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:38:09pm

re: #3 Gus

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Wouldn’t their calls have been domestic calls to each other, not foreign? So no, the way the law is set up we are not able to do that sort of thing. So the law “worked” as written.

56 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:39:08pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

its on now. Sheila’s Christian dating.

I love this show.

I know. I’m still a week behind though. I love it too. One of the better shows on TV IMO and there’s a lot of good programming to be found.

57 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:39:20pm

1.OK Computer
2. In Rainbows
3. The Bends
4. Kid A


After that they get into kind of un-listenable territory.

I couldn’t get through five minutes of Amnesiac or King of Limbs. I mean I’m all for experimentation, but maybe make another guitar album for fucks sake.

58 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:40:04pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

Starting at 5:00 the greatest guitar solo in history. I experience the same feeling every single time, since the first time I heard it. It just seizes my body in total ecstasy. And no, I’m not on drugs. : )

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Another great solo here starting at 3:15

Youtube Video

I’ve always liked this song….an underrated Pink Floyd number.

59 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:42:09pm

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Its kind of the song that turned progressive rock into a serious genre.

I mean King Crimson was a really good band, but there is so much fantasy related Tolkien influenced crap I can stomach.

Echoes I mean, not the song you linked to. Which is still awesome nonetheless.

60 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:45:01pm

re: #57 subterraneanhomesickalien

It took me two minutes to fall in love with IR. I heard Reckoner and just fell in love with it immediately. It’s their easiest album to “get,” if that makes sense. Awesome comment about the lack of guitars in KOL.

61 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:45:46pm

Well, he continues to spread this bullshit.

Wanted dead by US officials, Snowden tells German TV

Fugitive former NSA contractor Edward Snowden has claimed that US government officials “want to kill me” in an exclusive interview which German television says it conducted in Moscow.

dw.de

62 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:53:31pm

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Another great solo here starting at 3:15

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I’ve always liked this song….an underrated Pink Floyd number.

His pastoral phase.

63 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 6:54:03pm

re: #60 Kid A

I sometimes don’t really get the way Thom Yorke thinks.

I mean I can understand that maybe after OK came out and after a thousand bands that pretty much copied it verbatim flooded the market with their mediocrity, he wanted to do something else.

But to totally abandon everything that made them great in the 90’s is kind of weird.

Bands like Metallica did the same thing, but not anywhere nearly as drastic.

There are some truly beautiful parts of Kid A, but there is a pretty big gap between it and OK Computer for me.

I am contradiciting myself though, because there were some great things that came from them changing tempos like they did. In Rainbows made me want to cry the first time I heard it. And they did do some great guitar work on Hail to the Thief.

64 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:05:22pm

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Come back in 100 or 200 years and Pink Floyd will still be looked at as a high point of our time in terms of music. (A high point not sayin THE high point)

65 Kragar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:08:29pm
66 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:10:15pm

re: #64 Political Atheist

Come back in 100 or 200 years and Pink Floyd will still be looked at as a high point of our time in terms of music. (A high point not sayin THE high point)

I quite agree.

67 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:11:06pm

re: #64 Political Atheist

And Dark Side of the Moon will still be on the Billboard top 100 charts.

68 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:13:24pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

Starting at 5:00 the greatest guitar solo in history. I experience the same feeling every single time, since the first time I heard it. It just seizes my body in total ecstasy. And no, I’m not on drugs. : )

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I always find it interesting to compare what one person’s “best” is to another’s. Floyd is ok, perfer later period stuff but I could listen to this guy for hours instead:

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or any of Pete Townsend’s solos. Put “Who’s Next” here as a place holder ;)

69 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:14:34pm

This is sickening: #ScarJosFavoriteSodaStreamFlavor

70 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:15:52pm

Since the Floyd fans are around tonight the demo for Us and Them is pretty cool
Pink Floyd - Us and Them (Richard Wright Demo)
Youtube Video

71 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:18:31pm

I’d like to thank everyone on this blog for the photos and updates from the Ukraine. I’ve become very interested in a story I would have never even known about if not for LGF. Some of the pictures coming out of the there have been really fascinating to see.

72 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:20:00pm

re: #67 subterraneanhomesickalien

And Dark Side of the Moon will still be on the Billboard top 100 charts.

“And I am not frightened of dying. Any time will do; I don’t mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There’s no reason for it—you’ve gotta go sometime.”

Great Gig in the Sky. I’ll be 73 next month, so it’s something I consider these days, of which mine are becoming numbered now. : )

73 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:20:04pm

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

I… What..? do I even want to know?

74 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:20:43pm

re: #73 122 Year Old Obama

I… What..? do I even want to know?

I think I’d rather not.

75 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:20:47pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Seconded.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:22:02pm

#ScarJosFavoriteSodaStreamFlavor Killthe Juice

77 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:22:34pm

I mean man, some of the photos here are really compelling.

78 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:22:34pm

re: #61 Justanotherhuman

dw.de

Strangely similar to ‘dude.’

79 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:23:05pm

re: #78 jaunte

dw.de

Strangely similar to ‘dude.’

dw.de/bros?

80 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:24:53pm

Genesis-A Firth Of Fifth
Before The Wall, this is what carried me away for a few minutes at a time.

Youtube Video

81 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:25:33pm

If Dark Side of the Moon was released for the first time tomorrow, the world would explode.

82 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:25:54pm
IMPACTS… SNOW AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF TWO INCHES AND SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF A QUARTER INCH OR MORE ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME DIFFICULT DUE TO ICY ROADS AND BRIDGES DURING THE DAY ON TUESDAY. IN AREAS WHERE SIGNIFICANT FREEZING RAIN OCCURS… SPORADIC POWER OUTAGES ARE POSSIBLE. THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL FOR FREEZING RAIN WILL BE ACROSS SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA SOUTH OF LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS.

Doesn’t seem so out of place until you see the location does it?

“in EXCESS of two inches”…of snow…in the deep south.

Please keep me and the other southern lizards in your thoughts as areas around here aren’t used to that kind of weather and this could really mess some things up.

83 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:28:09pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

Doesn’t seem so out of place until you see the location does it?

“in EXCESS of two inches”…of snow…in the deep south.

Please keep me and the other southern lizards in your thoughts as areas around here aren’t used to that kind of weather and this could really mess some things up.

The personal injury lawyers are gonna clean up, I tell you. Always happens when there’s snow or ice down here. : )

84 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:28:22pm

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

So if she decides to drop her participation with the company, what does that accomplish?

85 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:29:51pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

Doesn’t seem so out of place until you see the location does it?

“in EXCESS of two inches”…of snow…in the deep south.

Please keep me and the other southern lizards in your thoughts as areas around here aren’t used to that kind of weather and this could really mess some things up.

Just got an email that school is closed again tomorrow due to wind chill.

5th time this year.

Unlike them, we’re used to it in Northern Wisconsin but still… Hope Hoops is nice a snuggled into his farm house.

86 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:30:02pm

That much snow could seriously close a bunch of the roads around here. We don’t exactly keep a fleet of plows on standby for this kind of thing.

87 calochortus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:32:04pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

That much snow could seriously close a bunch of the roads around here. We don’t exactly keep a fleet of plows on standby for this kind of thing.

Oh, just hose down the streets to melt the snow. What’s the worst that could happen?

88 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:33:27pm

re: #80 Political Atheist

Genesis-A Firth Of Fifth
Before The Wall, this is what carried me away for a few minutes at a time.

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Love the older Genesis material. Though oddly enough my favorite album of theirs is “Trick of the Tale” - which is the first one with Phil Collins singing lead instead of Gabriel.

89 jamesfirecat  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:34:23pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Aw shucks, our climate denier friend did the usual “you libruls can’t HANDLE THE TRUTH!” thing. I was almost hoping he’d try to argue a little bit.

We need a better class of troll.

Honestly a lot of the reason I don’t post here as often as I do sis that because there’s less arguing to be done.

Not a complaint against Charles it’s just that you either have the token sane Republican like DF who only holds economic issues (and one can only repost “solidarity forever” so many times) and tends to be In and out threads fairly frequently or bug fuck crazy people who get ban hammered like it is going out of style.

At this rate I’m gonna have to visit a clinic if I want a good argument…

90 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:35:24pm

As long as we’re talking about Pink Floyd, I’ve been listening to “Run Like Hell” a lot lately. Can’t explain why.

I think it’s because that scene in the film has the skinheads causing all sorts of mayhem and it reminds me of a lot of the stuff coming out of Kiev.

91 Belafon  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:37:17pm

re: #89 jamesfirecat

I come here for the twitter finds.

92 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:38:57pm

re: #89 jamesfirecat

Honestly a lot of the reason I don’t post here as often as I do sis that because there’s less arguing to be done.

Not a complaint against Charles it’s just that you either have the token sane Republican like DF who only holds economic issues (and one can only repost “solidarity forever” so many times) and tends to be In and out threads fairly frequently or bug fuck crazy people who get ban hammered like it is going out of style.

At this rate I’m gonna have to visit a clinic if I want a good argument…

Oh Hai!
:-)

Been a while since we had a chat. Or, thankfully, an argument.

93 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:39:50pm

re: #90 Lidane

I saw Pink Floyd at Rice Stadium in 1994. The concert was cut off halfway because of thunderstorms, I mean it was coming down in sheets, it was that bad. Last song? Run Like Hell, I shit you not.

94 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:41:36pm

re: #93 Kid A

I saw Pink Floyd at Rice Stadium in 1994. The concert was cut off halfway because of thunderstorms, I mean it was coming down in sheets, it was that bad. Last song? Run Like Hell, I shit you not.

ROFL. Small fucking world. I was at that show too. In fact, it was on my 21st birthday. One of my greatest concert memories.

My friends had given up and wanted to run for cover right before the end. We started to leave, then I heard the opening guitar strains of “Run Like Hell”. I deliberately ran back out into the rain to hear that song.

95 sagehen  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:43:36pm

Sherlock’s best man speech is the best ever.

96 jamesfirecat  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:44:24pm

re: #92 Political Atheist

Oh Hai!
:-)

Been a while since we had a chat. Or, thankfully, an argument.

Same to you.

So what do you have, on tap for today?

Anybody think abortion should be illegal? That’s always one of my favorites to run into…

97 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:44:30pm

re: #94 Lidane

Small world indeed.

98 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:46:48pm

re: #76 Pie-onist Overlord

#ScarJosFavoriteSodaStreamFlavor Killthe Juice

Twitter provides an excellent platform for the crazies. It’s helpful for sane people too, but its enforced brevity will always favor the nutbars.

99 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:48:05pm

re: #97 Kid A

Haha, true.

Funny thing. I looked on YouTube just now and that show has apparently gained the name of the Rain Like Hell concert. I laughed.

100 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:48:33pm
101 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:52:12pm

Musicapocolypse.

Song of the Year at the Grammys.

Youtube Video

102 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:53:38pm

re: #99 Lidane

Refresh my memory. Did they play “One of These Days” with the pigs and lights coming out both sides of the stage? That’s when Gilmour let’s it rip on the slide guitar. #DIESEL

103 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:55:13pm

re: #101 Justanotherhuman

Musicopolypse.

Song of the Year at the Grammys.

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I take it that it was the best selling single of the nominees? That’s usually the only real Grammy consideration.

104 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:57:01pm

re: #102 Kid A

Refresh my memory. Did they play “One of These Days” with the pigs and lights coming out both sides of the stage? That’s when Gilmour let’s it rip on the slide guitar. #DIESEL

Oh, I love that one, too!

Youtube Video

105 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:58:20pm

re: #102 Kid A

Refresh my memory. Did they play “One of These Days” with the pigs and lights coming out both sides of the stage? That’s when Gilmour let’s it rip on the slide guitar. #DIESEL

Yes. I remember the pigs. The setlist is here.

Apparently, that show was the first time that Pink Floyd had ever cut a set short due to weather. I remember that rain. It doesn’t surprise me. I also remember thinking that the universe had a sense of humor, because the storm really opened up during “The Great Gig in the Sky”. The rain made the laser lights look incredible.

It took me over an hour to find my friends after we got separated when I ran back into the storm, but it was worth it. It’s a great story to tell. Haha.

106 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:05:50pm

Whoa!

US strike ‘targets al-Shabab chief’ in Somalia

The US military has carried out a missile strike in Somalia against a suspected militant leader with ties to al-Qaeda and al-Shabab.

bbc.co.uk

“US defence officials say they are trying to establish whether the strike killed the intended target, whose identity they have not confirmed.

“The strike was aimed at a vehicle in a remote area of southern Somalia, near the town of Barawe.

(snip)

“A rebel leader has told the Associated Press news agency that it was Sahal Iskudhuq, an al-Shabab commander who was close to the head of the militant Islamist group, and to al-Qaeda.

“However this has not been confirmed.”

107 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:08:18pm

re: #106 Justanotherhuman

Whoa!

US strike ‘targets al-Shabab chief’ in Somalia

The US military has carried out a missile strike in Somalia against a suspected militant leader with ties to al-Qaeda and al-Shabab.

bbc.co.uk

“US defence officials say they are trying to establish whether the strike killed the intended target, whose identity they have not confirmed.

“The strike was aimed at a vehicle in a remote area of southern Somalia, near the town of Barawe.

(snip)

“A rebel leader has told the Associated Press news agency that it was Sahal Iskudhuq, an al-Shabab commander who was close to the head of the militant Islamist group, and to al-Qaeda.

“However this has not been confirmed.”

Queue RWNJ claims that this is a planned distraction from Benghazi, ACA failure, Obama’s fading poll numbers, and Michelle turning 50.
///

108 Kragar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:14:28pm
109 dr. luba  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:15:00pm

For those of you interested in the Maidan in Ukraine, someone shared this today with me on Facebook. I have family on the front lines, and this jibes with what I’ve been hearing from them.

Great photos at the link.

110 HypnoToad  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:18:03pm

re: #105 Lidane

Saw them at the Rose Bowl on that tour. I was less than fifty feet from the stage; my ears weren’t right for two days after that. A co-worker at home a couple of miles away in Altadena said it was a comfortable listening level there…

111 blueraven  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:21:08pm

re: #109 dr. luba

For those of you interested in the Maidan in Ukraine, someone shared this today with me on Facebook. I have family on the front lines, and this jibes with what I’ve been hearing from them.

Great photos at the link.

wow
amazing photos!
hoping the best for your family…may they be safe!

112 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:21:58pm

re: #109 dr. luba

For those of you interested in the Maidan in Ukraine, someone shared this today with me on Facebook. I have family on the front lines, and this jibes with what I’ve been hearing from them.

Great photos at the link.

Wow, thanks. A lot of those look like they could be scenes from an upcoming video game.

113 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:28:45pm

re: #110 HypnoToad

Saw them at the Rose Bowl on that tour. I was less than fifty feet from the stage; my ears weren’t right for two days after that. A co-worker at home a couple of miles away in Altadena said it was a comfortable listening level there…

I didn’t care where I sat. They were all tiny specks from my vantage point, but it was my birthday and I was going to that show. The rest was details. Heh.

I had two great birthdays in a row at Rice Stadium. My 21st was spent watching Pink Floyd, and the 22nd was at an Elton John/Billy Joel gig.

114 Kragar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:31:17pm

Biggest Concert I ever went to: Metallica/ Guns and Roses at the Rose Bowl

Best Concert I ever went to: Iron Maiden/ Ronnie James Dio

And Motorhead ended up being the opener at both

115 HypnoToad  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:33:22pm

re: #113 Lidane

Pink Floyd was the only major rock concert I’ve ever been to. The one that I absolutely HAD to see (&hear).

116 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:33:37pm

re: #113 Lidane

Rice has a cool stadium.

On September 12, 1962, Rice Stadium hosted the speech in which President John F. Kennedy challenged Americans to meet his goal, set the previous year, to send a man to the moon by the end of the decade.
en.wikipedia.org

117 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:39:38pm

re: #114 Kragar

Best show I’ve ever seen, hands down, was Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band at SXSW in 2012. Seeing The Boss in a venue that holds less than 3000 people blew my mind.

To give you an idea how close I was to the stage, this video was taken from behind me. I can see my hands on camera:

Youtube Video

118 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:40:21pm

re: #114 Kragar

Biggest Concert I ever went to: Metallica/ Guns and Roses at the Rose Bowl

Best Concert I ever went to: Iron Maiden/ Ronnie James Dio

And Motorhead ended up being the opener at both

Biggest I’ve been to, Styx, Rick Derringer, Peter Frampton (Frampton comes alive tour) and the headline act was Steve Miller Band. Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO, 1976.

Best I’ve ever been to, be a toss up between Flogging Molly at a smallish club in Nashville, and the 2011 REDUX of the Frampton Comes Alive Tour at Ryman Auditorium (The high church of Country Music, PERFECT acoustics and seats 2300 people, it was the LAST stop on the American leg of the tour before they headed off to Europe. FANTASTIC.

Biggest change between 2 concerts, seeing Flogging Molly and then 2 weeks later seeing The Decemberists at the same club. Two more different experiences I can’t imagine.

RBS

119 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:41:23pm
The citations … are numerous and all over the Internet.

Some days I miss the rotating titles.

120 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:42:41pm

re: #105 Lidane

Now I remember, because I saw the concert video for “Momentary Lapse of Reason” a few months before the gig, and it was amazing. If Watters could deflate his ego and agree to do one more tour with the originals (sans Syd, obviously) it would make my life.

121 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:43:53pm

re: #116 jaunte

We had a Super Bowl here, too. Miami v Minnesota in 1974 I think.

122 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:44:06pm

My favorite concert I attended. It rained for days. Who gives a shit? No one.

Grateful Dead Downhill from here Alpine Valley 7/17/1989

Youtube Video

123 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:45:15pm

re: #118 RealityBasedSteve

Decemberists, cool band.

124 The War TARDIS  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:46:17pm

Finally unfollowed a friend on Twitter. Hasn’t talked to me in months, and constant BS regarding TSwift.

125 Kragar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:46:52pm

Went to a Tool concert where I got to meet the band backstage after the show. Good show, but it was outside and we were freezing most of the night.

126 blueraven  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:49:29pm

My best concert - Van Morrison at the Armadillo World Headquarters in Austin 1979

Small venue, about 2500 capacity.

127 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:51:49pm

re: #122 Amory Blaine

My favorite concert I attended. It rained for days. Who gives a shit? No one.

Grateful Dead Downhill from here Alpine Valley 7/17/1989

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The whole valley was high on this cats LSD

128 sagehen  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:54:16pm

summer 1976, The Who at Anaheim Stadium.

Two carloads of us (all HS students) went down the night before to camp out in line (festival seating); we got very drunk (I’m still missing a few hours memory of that evening). I woke up about 10 minutes before they opened the doors, participated in the mad rush to get a good spot to spread out our blanket on field (100 feet from the stage); then napped for most of the afternoon. The smell of pot is extremely unpleasant when hungover to that degree; but I was feeling much better by sunset, we had enough food in the cooler, and was feeling just fine by the time they took the stage.

I used to have a bootleg, on vinyl, of that show — I was heartbroken when a bad roommate stole it.

I’ve seen shows since that may have been better, in venues that were better (small clubs), or arenas from seats that were definitely better (actual seats in a close row, could show up just before it started, backstage passes, etc,) or with better company… but that Who show remains the finest Concert Experience of my memory.

129 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:56:03pm

re: #126 blueraven

For me, same venue in 1974:
austinchronicle.com

130 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:58:24pm

I saw Pink Floyd twice back in 1988, once at Giants Stadium and then 3 months later at Nassau Coliseum. They filmed part of the Momentary Lapse of Reason video at Nassau. An amazing concert I will never forget.

131 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 8:59:49pm

Good Night, All.

132 blueraven  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:00:04pm

re: #129 jaunte

For me, same venue in 1974:
austinchronicle.com

Awesome! I was still living in New Orleans then.
Would have loved that!

133 wrenchwench  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:00:51pm

My old boyfriend was a huge Kinks fan. I got tickets to see them in Santa Barbara on his birthday. Then I wrote to both the venue and the record label to see if I could get them to say happy birthday to him from the stage. They did and dedicated ‘Demon Alcohol’ to him. Then we waited out back to say thanks. We never saw Ray, but when Dave Davies came out, the rest of the crowd hollered happy birthday to him, because my BF’s name was David. Then my BF got to shake Dave Davies hand and say ‘I’m the Dave with the birthday.’ And Davies said, ‘Oh, well, good luck then.’

He was so happy.

134 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:06:21pm
135 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:06:29pm

re: #128 sagehen

summer 1976, The Who at Anaheim Stadium.

Two carloads of us (all HS students) went down the night before to camp out in line (festival seating); we got very drunk (I’m still missing a few hours memory of that evening). I woke up about 10 minutes before they opened the doors, participated in the mad rush to get a good spot to spread out our blanket on field (100 feet from the stage); then napped for most of the afternoon. The smell of pot is extremely unpleasant when hungover to that degree; but I was feeling much better by sunset, we had enough food in the cooler, and was feeling just fine by the time they took the stage.

I used to have a bootleg, on vinyl, of that show — I was heartbroken when a bad roommate stole it.

I’ve seen shows since that may have been better, in venues that were better (small clubs), or arenas from seats that were definitely better (actual seats in a close row, could show up just before it started, backstage passes, etc,) or with better company… but that Who show remains the finest Concert Experience of my memory.

I saw The Who in 1980 with Jethro Tull and John Cougar. Jethro Tull was awesome. I didn’t think it could get any better than that then The Who came out and killed it. Could be my best major concert.

136 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:10:47pm

Lots of Twitter butthurt from the bigots about the Ryan Lewis/Macklemore performance that had the gay marriages.

I am amused.

137 Kragar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:18:49pm

re: #136 Lidane

Lots of Twitter butthurt from the bigots about the Ryan Lewis/Macklemore performance that had the gay marriages.

I am amused.

Livetweeting from the wrong side of history

138 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:21:22pm

Most memorable bands I saw in small bars (does that count as a concert?)

The Ramones - Toads Place in New Haven Ct - What can I say, it was the Ramones. Awesome, loud, raunchy.

Blue Oyster Cult - CD’s Bar in Darien Ct - Tiniest bar I ever saw a band. The lead guitar player couldn’t make it so Alice Cooper’s guitarist filled in. I got a table reserved for me and my friends on the stage. Perfect seats!

Matt ‘Guitar’ Murphy - CD’s

Lester Chambers - CD’s every Sunday. I never missed him.

139 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:24:23pm

Harold Lloyd is a hoot.

[Just sayin’]

140 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:32:45pm

Things are heating up in Kiev. Live YouTube coverage:

Youtube Video

141 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:34:11pm

Never mind. I think it’s a video from Wednesday.

142 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:34:38pm

Let’s see, some of my favorite shows …

The Urban Guerrillas at the UW-Eau Claire
The Replacements/Paul Westerberg - various places
(I regret missing Husker Du though I’ve seen the Grant Hart & Bob Mould since)
Patti Smith
X - several times
Hole - fairly shortly after Cobain’s suicide. She was a train wreck but the show was pretty good anyway.
U2 - played Camp Randal. Amazing hearing 50,000 people singing “Pride”.
Concrete Blond

My best friend got tickets to the Who in Chicago when the Clash opened for them. Unfortunately, I spend _that_ night in Basic Training O_o

Most of the best of the rest were small local bands.

143 darthstar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:37:46pm
144 jaunte  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:40:16pm

Aerial Demo Reel 2013
from Alterna Films
Footage was captured for the following fine companies

westcoasfishingclub.com
intergalactic.com
concordpacific.com
helijet.com
canucks.nhl.com

Vimeo

145 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:41:02pm

Veteran CBS host laughs in Cruz’s face after he repeatedly denies shutting down government
Personal Responsibility - GOP Style!

146 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:49:27pm
147 darthstar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:49:42pm

My penis is cuter than you.

148 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:51:28pm

Gilmour with Waters in London, 2011.

Youtube Video

149 Kid A  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 9:54:33pm

The “Gilmour sound.”
Youtube Video

150 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:00:09pm

Bayer Pharmaceutical CEO: Cancer drug only ‘for western patients who can afford it’

In an interview with Bloomberg Businessweek, Bayer CEO Marijn Dekkers said that his company’s new cancer drug, Nexavar, isn’t “for Indians,” but “for western patients who can afford it.”

The drug, which is particularly effective on late-stage kidney and liver cancer, costs approximately $69,000 per year in India, so in March 2012 an Indian court granted a license to an Indian company to produce to the drug at a 97 percent discount.

Bayer sued Natco Pharma Ltd., but in March of last year, the High Court in Mumbai denied its appeal. Bayer CEO called the compulsory license issued by the Indian court “essentially theft,” then said “[w]e did not develop this medicine for Indians…[w]e developed it for western patients who can afford it.”

Nexavar costs approximately $96,000 per year in the United States, but Bayer assures “western patients” that they can have access to the drug for a $100 copay.

151 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:04:16pm

re: #150 Varek Raith

Medicine for the 1%! That’s what’s great about America!

152 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:04:50pm

The performance that has the bigots going ‘splodey:

Youtube Video

I like that the whole thing is a definitive statement. And I appreciate them trying to make Madonna relevant again. Good effort. I can’t wait for the RWNJ derp tomorrow. Haha.

153 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:07:22pm

Yeah, nevermind the fact the the US taxpayers fund their research.
Pharma spends most of it’s money on marketing.

154 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:08:03pm

Some things in the world should not be for profit.
Healthcare is one of them.

155 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:09:36pm

I’m a tad infuriated.
Gonna make some coffee.

156 darthstar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:13:47pm

157 darthstar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:14:34pm

Just iused WD-40 on my wife’s pruning shears today. Love that shit.

158 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:22:18pm

re: #156 darthstar

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Eve joke;

Minmatar Ships are held together by hopes and dreams….
And duck tape lots and lots of duck tape.

159 Ryan King  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:22:30pm

Love WD40. A lighter and quick blast will take care of a spider and it’s whole web.

160 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:26:17pm

re: #159 Ryan King

Love WD40. A lighter and quick blast will take care of a spider and it’s whole web.

I believe that’s a violation of the Geneva Conventions.

161 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:27:01pm

re: #157 darthstar

Just iused WD-40 on my wife’s pruning shears today. Love that shit.

I just removed it from my tablesaw. It got wet during the move and I had to stop the rust building up on the table top and covered it with WD-40. Worked great. Today I spent all day cleaning it up and polishing it. It looks like it never was rusty.

162 piratedan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:28:50pm

re: #73 122 Year Old Obama

I… What..? do I even want to know?

I hear it’s Summer’s Eve

163 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:33:28pm
164 Lidane  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:36:10pm

re: #152 Lidane


Tomorrow is going to be glorious. Bring on the derp!

165 klys  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:40:54pm

re: #164 Lidane

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Tomorrow is going to be glorious. Bring on the derp!

Because watching someone else getting married is a display of hatred and bigotry.

No, really, explain this one to me.

166 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:40:56pm

re: #164 Lidane

Somebody’s got their feewings hurt! Poor babies.

167 Ryan King  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:41:49pm

re: #164 Lidane

[Embedded content]Tomorrow is going to be glorious. Bring on the derp!

A ginormous Vortex of Wingnut Tears.

168 Ryan King  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:44:45pm

re: #165 klys

No, really, explain this one to me.

You Can’t Explain That-ism.

169 The War TARDIS  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:50:43pm

Canada, a word with you please.

The bomb was said to be 15cm long and filled with gunpowder. The teenager claimed to have forgotten it was in the bag after making it with a friend for fun some months before.

He subsequently pleaded guilty and was fined 100 Canadian dollars.

170 Kragar  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:51:53pm

re: #164 Lidane

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Tomorrow is going to be glorious. Bring on the derp!

Got to get in on the action

171 GlutenFreeJesus  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:54:39pm

Here’s a friend of mine playing Bayer’s Souvenir d’amour.

Youtube Video

172 gwangung  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 10:58:57pm

re: #170 Kragar

And not all Christians disapprove of gay marriage…in fact, they liked the ceremony on the Grammys just fine.

173 piratedan  Sun, Jan 26, 2014 11:53:57pm

re: #172 gwangung

And not all Christians disapprove of gay marriage…in fact, they liked the ceremony on the Grammys just fine.

ty for the reminder that not all people of faith are automagically drooling god botherers that are infinitely more concerned with whatever misdeeds they perceive you to be making rather than acting as an example for those around them. Sometimes its hard to remember that Bryan Fischer doesn’t speak for all faiths when he’s such an oblivious dingleberry.

174 sagehen  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 12:06:05am

re: #170 Kragar

Got to get in on the action

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Where did they ever get the idea that “God wrote the book”??

Jews were using that book generations before Christians even existed, we in fact wrote it, we never thought God wrote it. He’s quoted in it, sometimes; if you pull out all the quotes supposedly directly from him, it might take 2 pages… but that includes some of us arguing with him, telling him he’s wrong about something, he thinks it over and says “huh. you’ve got a point. okay, I’ll change that rule then.”

And some of the other “quotes” from god are some guy who had a dream, all in visual images with no words, and he *thinks* it probably means God’s telling him X, Y and Z… but then again maybe he’s misinterpreted the imagery.

175 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 12:59:43am

re: #174 sagehen

Some believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, communicated via the divine hotline to human scribes here on Earth who wrote it down for less fortunate people to read. For them, the Bible is a magic talisman containing All That Needs to Be Known, because God Wrote It.

Probably in 17th century English. He sent the first part down, translated into Hebrew, for the locals, got distracted or something, and sent the second part down a few thousand years later, but in Aramaic and Greek, with a different main character and plotline.

Hack writer. Unreliable. Fails to meet deadlines. Loses train of thought.

176 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 1:01:14am

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi

Some believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, communicated via the divine hotline to human scribes here on Earth who wrote it down for less fortunate people to read. For them, the Bible is a magic talisman containing All That Needs to Be Known, because God Wrote It.

Probably in 17th century English. He sent the first part down, translated into Hebrew, for the locals, got distracted or something, and sent the second part down a few thousand years later, but in Aramaic and Greek, with a different main character and plotline.

Hack writer. Unreliable. Fails to meet deadlines. Loses train of thought.

And spawned a whole niche for fan fiction

177 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 1:03:57am

re: #176 Kragar

It went downhill after Paradise Lost. The “Left Behind” series is but one example.

178 freetoken  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 2:00:30am

MP3 Audio

179 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 3:38:27am

Holy shit!

180 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 3:41:46am

These are the oblasts the protesters are trying to take over…in the eastern part of Ukraine where there is more Russian sentiment.


I wouldn’t be surprised if they haven’t imported some cops for the job.

181 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 3:45:23am

re: #146 NJDhockeyfan

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In all fairness, there’s no such thing as a fortress that cannot be conquered.

Ask the folks in Constantinople Istanbul about that one.

182 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 3:59:08am

Woke up at 5:30 to someone knocking on my door and the sound of a large truck idling outside my bedroom. I’m doing some renovation in the house this week and had ordered a smallish dumpster to deal with it. Well, it was the dumpster being delivered. Might as well get some coffee working and get started on the day.

RBS

183 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:17:48am

Just awful. This is from the Press service of the “Belarusian Association of Journalists”

Belsat TV Crew Beaten in Cherkassy, Equipment Seized

On Sunday evening, January 26, the crew of Belsat TV, officially accredited for work in Kyiv, was brutally beaten and detained in the regional city Cherkassy while covering clashes between prosteres and riot police.

baj.by

Cherkassy is one of the 4 oblasts where the cops are cracking down hard.

184 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:32:08am

One other thing I noticed about coverage of this situation in Ukraine, and that is “Espreso TV” which I had watched for several days on Youtube was not online all day yesterday, and is still not online today; got the message that the “video you requested is not available”. The RT “live coverage” was a 35 min video, not live streaming.

The UkrStream, which I’m watching currently seems touch and go, with most scenes static, as though they’re coming from a CCTV, or even on a loop. For instance, yesterday, the entire viewing of Ukr showed Kiev in the dark and it never changed. Right now, although it should be about 3 pm in Kiev, it’s very dusky, more like the sun going down, as opposed to other photos of real daylight. I can hear a man repeating stuff in a monotone, like through a bullhorn.

So, I’m going to try to find something else, although with the way the cops are dealing w/journalists, it probably won’t be easy.

185 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:38:55am

This is ridiculous. It’s kind of like the attitude in most of the South back in the day. I personally went to the 2 gay bars in Charlotte w/gay friends back in the early ’70s when they operated rather quietly and didn’t advertise. That changed over time. Now, I live in a county that doesn’t even admit it has gay people, either. Some places don’t change.

Sochi 2014: No gay people in city, says mayor

bbc.co.uk

186 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:42:52am

re: #185 Justanotherhuman

i[snip]

Sochi 2014: No gay people in city, says mayor

bbc.co.uk

They all probably moved back to Iran.

187 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:48:05am

re: #93 Kid A

I saw Pink Floyd at Rice Stadium in 1994. The concert was cut off halfway because of thunderstorms, I mean it was coming down in sheets, it was that bad. Last song? Run Like Hell, I shit you not.

Took two of the kids to the Venice ‘89 concert off St Mark’s square—still have an Italian broadcast on VHS. Wife took the little girl (10) to the zoo at Verona to make it up. Bad decision—we were in the open air all day, those two were caught on a closed train with every stoner in Europe. Both had massive 2nd-hand highs.

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:48:46am

WTFITS I just can’t even…

189 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:51:53am

Regardless of what one may think of Turkey’s PM Erdogan, I gotta admit, this is freakin’ cool as hell.

hurriyetdailynews.com

It’s Darth Erdogan!!

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:52:04am

MLK gives advice to a young Gay man.

It was 19-FIFTY-freaking-EIGHT. He advised him to stay in the closet and get therapy that would help him adjust to life in the closet. Because it was, you know,1958.

191 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:53:32am

re: #190 Pie-onist Overlord

MLK gives advice to a young Gay man.

It was 19-fifty-freaking-EIGHT. He advised him to stay in the closet and get therapy that would help him adjust to life in the closet. Because it was, you know,1958.

Yes, and to some people, 1958 was a Very Good Year…they would like to have it back.

192 kirkspencer  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:56:41am

re: #170 Kragar

Got to get in on the action

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If he wrote the book, how come there are so many different versions?

No, I’m not talking about the translations to English and other languages. Nor am I talking about the different versions that include fewer or more books than other vesions. I’m not even talking about how the gospels are obviously four different authors each writing a biography of the same man. I’m talking about original sources such as the ‘dead sea’ scrolls which are obviously the same story but have variations in how they tell them.

193 freetoken  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:58:35am

Cannabis during pregnancy endangers fetal brain development

An increasing number of children suffer from the consequences of maternal drug exposure during pregnancy, and Cannabis is one of the most frequently used substances. This motivated the study, published in the EMBO Journal, cunducted in mice and human brain tissue, to decipher the molecular basis of how the major psychoactive component from Cannabis called delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol or THC affects brain development of the unborn foetus.

[…]

194 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 4:59:28am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Yes, and to some people, 1968 was a Very Good Year…they would like to have it back.

Typo: 1958.

195 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:02:57am

Social Security, Medicare, Interstate highways, ALL TAKEN FROM SOMEBODY ELSE!!!1!!!!!!

196 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:04:52am

Dudebros all umgebroyzelt at Scarlett Johanson.

197 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:06:08am

re: #193 freetoken

Cannabis during pregnancy endangers fetal brain development

This is my concern about pot; not only in the fetus but in the child’s developing brain as well. We don’t know exactly how every substance we put into our body works, esp on the brain. We have seen babies born who were addicted to other substances.

The institute is well known and in Sweden. It awards The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

ki.se

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:06:43am

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

199 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:07:15am

re: #196 Pie-onist Overlord

Dudebros all umgebroyzelt at Scarlett Johanson.

Can’t spell ‘umgebroyzelt’ without ‘bro’.

(Had to look it up.)

200 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:08:38am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

Can’t spell ‘umgebroyzelt’ without ‘bro’.

(Had to look it up.)

What did you find?

201 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:09:16am

“Umgebroyzelt” is a Yiddish word meaning “in a seething frenzy of rage”

202 The War TARDIS  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:09:36am

re: #196 Pie-onist Overlord

Why?

203 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:10:13am

After a prayer for Ukraine Francis released two doves, but they immediately attacked by a seagull and black crows. But those saved. (Google transl)

204 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:10:41am

re: #200 Pie-onist Overlord

What did you find?

You, mostly:

google.com

205 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:13:15am

I did not make up that word, although maybe I am the only one to use that particular transliteration.

206 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:14:34am

re: #204 Decatur Deb

You, mostly:

google.com

Maybe this? Of course, this site quotes Mondoweiss and they say the entire internet hates Johannson.

liberalplanet.com

207 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:14:55am

re: #164 Lidane

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Tomorrow is going to be glorious. Bring on the derp!

It would almost be worth dealing with Twitter to tell that twit that I’ll pray he someday meets the Lord and is born again because his fruits show he hasn’t yet.

208 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:15:19am

re: #205 Pie-onist Overlord

I did not make up that word, although maybe I am the only one to use that particular transliteration.

Good name for a punk-klezmer garage band.

209 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:16:37am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

One other thing I noticed about coverage of this situation in Ukraine, and that is “Espreso TV” which I had watched for several days on Youtube was not online all day yesterday, and is still not online today; got the message that the “video you requested is not available”. The RT “live coverage” was a 35 min video, not live streaming.

The UkrStream, which I’m watching currently seems touch and go, with most scenes static, as though they’re coming from a CCTV, or even on a loop. For instance, yesterday, the entire viewing of Ukr showed Kiev in the dark and it never changed. Right now, although it should be about 3 pm in Kiev, it’s very dusky, more like the sun going down, as opposed to other photos of real daylight. I can hear a man repeating stuff in a monotone, like through a bullhorn.

So, I’m going to try to find something else, although with the way the cops are dealing w/journalists, it probably won’t be easy.

There are some good links here. Looks like the crowds are again huge.

210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:16:51am

re: #195 Pie-onist Overlord

Social Security, Medicare, Interstate highways, ALL TAKEN FROM SOMEBODY ELSE!!!1!!!!!!

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not to mention that education you got…from someobody else…

211 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:22:37am

re: #195 Pie-onist Overlord

Social Security, Medicare, Interstate highways, ALL TAKEN FROM SOMEBODY ELSE!!!1!!!!!!

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Tenkswatawa agrees.

en.wikipedia.org

212 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:23:00am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

not to mention that education you got…from someobody else…

HURR HURR!!!! WHO NEEDS SKOOLZ!!!! I CAN HOME-SKOOL MY KIDZ!!!11!!

HURR HURR!!!!!11 WHO NEED POLICE!!!! I CAN HAZ GUNZ!!!1!!!

HURR HURR!!!11!!! WHO NEED INTERSTATES!!!111 I CAN HAZ 4-WHEEL DRIVE!!!!1!!!

213 piratedan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:41:31am

re: #195 Pie-onist Overlord

you mean my right to vote for elected representation was taken from somebody else, who knew?

214 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:42:06am

re: #174 sagehen

Where did they ever get the idea that “God wrote the book”??

Jews were using that book generations before Christians even existed, we in fact wrote it, we never thought God wrote it. He’s quoted in it, sometimes; if you pull out all the quotes supposedly directly from him, it might take 2 pages… but that includes some of us arguing with him, telling him he’s wrong about something, he thinks it over and says “huh. you’ve got a point. okay, I’ll change that rule then.”

I like the part where he moons Moses.

215 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:43:32am

re: #213 piratedan

you mean my right to vote for elected representation was taken from somebody else, pray tell me, who?

Old white male landowners…

216 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:43:51am

re: #213 piratedan

you mean my right to vote for elected representation was taken from somebody else, pray tell me, who?

HURR HURR!!!1!!!!! FROM TEH WHITE MALE PROPERTY OWNER WHO CAN HAZ ALL TEH RITES 2 VOAT!!!111!!!! TEH FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T LET TEH LAZY MOOCHER NON-PROPERTY-HAVING POORS & TEH WOMENS & TEH 3/5 OF A PERSON VOTE!!!11!! BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD JUST VOTES THERESELFS ALL TEH MONEYS!!!11!!!!!

217 piratedan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:44:25am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

Old white male landowners…

ahh yes, the landed gentry of Old New Jersey…. :-)

218 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:45:40am
219 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:47:16am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

I look back at HS, recall that our Civics class was taught by a wrestling coach (the only course he taught, other than study hall), and the state of the citizenry’s knowledge on how gummint works becomes clear.

(Why were so many history and health classes in my school district back in the day taught half-assedly by bro-tastic sports coaches?)

220 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:48:19am

Found another livestream.

hromadske.tv

From Max Eristavi’s link to this article:

“Ukraine: Stop the Seeds of Violence now”. My interview to Le Monde

sofarsoclose.net

“Nataliya Gumenyuk was born in Birobidzhan in the Russian Far East, where her father, a Soviet military man, had been stationed. She was seven years old when Ukraine became independent. Another thing which changed her life, in 2005, was a grant from the Swedish government, which allowed her to do a Masters in Journalism at the University of Örebro, Sweden. When she returned to Ukraine, she was a European. Here is her story:

“I used work at Ukrainian mainstream media for a decade as an international reporter. But I found the structure to be too oppressive. With some colleagues, we decided to create an Internet TV station based on the principles of public broadcasting. By chance, we launched it on 24 November 2013… the day of the first EU demonstrations on the Maidan. So, we became the main source of information about what happens, being professionals who use cheap citizen journalists tools.

“Most of my colleagues in the media, culture, the social sciences, have studied in Europe. They are not different from my European friends. We don’t see Europe as something that is beyond our borders. There is a strong bond.”

221 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:48:21am
222 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:48:54am
223 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:49:23am

re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

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Shouldn’t that be comrad chumpski?

Hey dude, if they really wanted him dead, he’d already be pushing daisies…

224 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:51:13am

re: #219 chadu

I look back at HS, recall that our Civics class was taught by a wrestling coach (the only course he taught, other than study hall), and the state of the citizenry’s knowledge on how gummint works becomes clear.

(Why were so many history and health classes in my school district back in the day taught half-assedly by bro-tastic sports coaches?)

My 7th grade history teacher was also the JV football coach, and he was a pretty decent history teacher. He sported a buzzcut, probably because he was ex-military, and was pretty strict with us in class. But he knew his stuff. I remember he told us (in 1970) to watch out for Brazil, that it would become an important economy in the future.

225 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:51:30am

re: #202 The War TARDIS

Why?

Because she is a spokeswoman for Sodastream and one of Sodastream production plants is in a West Bank settlement. Thus the meme is that Johannson “supports Israeli apartheid!!1”.

226 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:51:40am

re: #221 Lidane

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Fuck you, Stockman, you’re paid over $176K/yr to be there—plus perks. Borrow the money if you’re living too high on the hog so you can do your damned job instead of campaigning 24/7.

227 darthstar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:52:58am
228 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:54:12am

Here is an example of the rapier-like wit and razor-sharp logic that liberals have come to fear when arguing with informed Conservatives:

229 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:54:32am

re: #219 chadu

I look back at HS, recall that our Civics class was taught by a wrestling coach (the only course he taught, other than study hall), and the state of the citizenry’s knowledge on how gummint works becomes clear.

(Why were so many history and health classes in my school district back in the day taught half-assedly by bro-tastic sports coaches?)

I always got lucky in those subjects. Now, my Chem teacher? Even though he’d retired from industry he couldn’t teach the way out of a paper bag. I’d have rather had the coach - you could teach a coach something occasionally. I ended up with an F for the year in the class and the highest score in the city on the city wide chemistry exam :)

230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:54:42am

re: #227 darthstar

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Been watching that “House of Cards” series on Netflix, all about sex, drugs and power-crazed people in Washington.

231 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:55:55am

re: #221 Lidane

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He can try BSing like that, but his campaign is already in the toilet and this is just one more reason he’s not going to oust Sen. Cornyn.

232 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:57:45am

re: #228 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is an example of the rapier-like wit and razor-sharp logic that liberals have come to fear when arguing with informed Conservatives:

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Purely grade-school taunts. That one probably peaked when she was a bully in 6th grade.

233 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:57:57am

re: #217 piratedan

ahh yes, the landed gentry of Old New Jersey…. :-)

Whose lands were seized for the right-of-way for the NJ Turnpike and interstate highways…
/////

234 darthstar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:58:55am
235 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:01:30am

HURR HURR!!!11!!! THIS IS WHAT ALL TEH LIBTARDS THINKS1!!!1!!!!

236 darthstar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:03:44am
237 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:06:54am

re: #235 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!! THIS IS WHAT ALL TEH LIBTARDS THINKS1!!!1!!!!

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I checked the Twitter feed in question and so far 5 of the 7 depicted ‘liberals’ have been women,

Prediction: The People’s Cube just earned itself a “war on women” article or 2.

238 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:10:18am

re: #234 darthstar

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The neighbors are more concerned about the “noise” than stray bullets?

Cheeez.

There’s a guy down the street from me (about 3 properties down) who has a gun range on his property; this is the county and it’s perfectly legal here, too, because I live in an unincorporated area.

239 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:11:04am

re: #237 Dark_Falcon

I checked the Twitter feed in question and so far 5 of the 7 depicted ‘liberals’ have been women,

Prediction: The People’s Cube just earned itself a “war on women” article or 2.

TPC must be affiliated with FreeRepublic because the FReepers are always spamming their lame memes. During my FReeper days, there was this guy “Registered” who had some mad Photoshop skillz, but he was still a crazy wingnut.

240 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:11:51am

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

The neighbors are more concerned about the “noise” than stray bullets?

Cheeez.

There’s a guy down the street from me (about 3 properties down) who has a gun range on his property; this is the county and it’s perfectly legal here, too, because I live in an unincorporated area.

If the range is properly constructed and its users properly trained, there isn’t a danger of stray rounds.

241 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:11:58am

I just can’t even…

242 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:13:16am
243 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:13:18am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Watched til the end of the Grammys because they had both Metallica and NIN performing at the last half hour of the show.

Both kicked ass. Metallica performed One, which is super ironic given that song was the first song they ever performed at the Grammys - in 1989, when they lost best heavy metal to Jethro Tull.

They performed the song ostensibly in memory of Lou Reed, with whom they collaborated on an album.

NIN closed the show with Queens of the Stone Age, but CBS and the producers decided to cut away before they could finish the set. Really? In a show all about honoring musicians, showing off musical talent, the producers decided to overrun them? They have advertisers to keep happy. Who cares about the music - the only reason they have the show.

It was an opportunity to show off QotSA, and they failed.

Youtube Video

Trent Reznor was not a happy camper with that.

244 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:13:50am

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

If the range is properly constructed and its users properly trained, there isn’t a danger of stray rounds.

Well, for the last month, I haven’t heard anything. Don’t know if he moved, someone filed a complaint, or he was “out of compliance”. You don’t know this county; almost anything goes, and I doubt he would ever be “out of compliance” according to the wingnuts that run it.

245 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:16:14am

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

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Reports of roadblocks being set up outside of Kiev, also.

kyivpost.com

246 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:18:53am

re: #195 Pie-onist Overlord

The money to fund the Defense Department. All those tanks, planes, nukes, aircraft carriers, and environmentally spoiled areas at places like Hanford and Oak Ridge. All came from somewhere.

Taxes, which is part of the compact between a people with a representative government, and a government to provide for the common good.

These numbnuts think taxes are an evil thing. Yet, most everything that society requires to function needs taxes to function properly.

247 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:02am

re: #243 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Watched til the end of the Grammys because they had both Metallica and NIN performing at the last half hour of the show.

Both kicked ass. Metallica performed One, which is super ironic given that song was the first song they ever performed at the Grammys - in 1989, when they lost best heavy metal to Jethro Tull.

They performed the song ostensibly in memory of Lou Reed, with whom they collaborated on an album.

NIN closed the show with Queens of the Stone Age, but CBS and the producers decided to cut away before they could finish the set. Really? In a show all about honoring musicians, showing off musical talent, the producers decided to overrun them? They have advertisers to keep happy. Who cares about the music - the only reason they have the show.

It was an opportunity to show off QotSA, and they failed.

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Trent Reznor was not a happy camper with that.

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This was the Grammys. It’s a sales award - the winner is almost always the one who sold the most copies. It is not now, nor has it ever been, a music award.

OTOH, anything that PO’s Reznor can’t be all bad… O_o

249 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:07am
250 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:53am

re: #246 lawhawk

The money to fund the Defense Department. All those tanks, planes, nukes, aircraft carriers, and environmentally spoiled areas at places like Hanford and Oak Ridge. All came from somewhere.

Taxes, which is part of the compact between a people with a representative government, and a government to provide for the common good.

These numbnuts think taxes are an evil thing. Yet, most everything that society requires to function needs taxes to function properly.

Maybe it’s time to re-word the concept of taxes in terms they are more willing to accept and understand. It’s protection money to the local warlord organization - in exchange for services and protection from the neighboring warlord organizations. And the local warlord like the concept of paved roads, utilities, etc. since it helps economic productivity, is useful for transport of trade goods and troops, and also serves as an economic stimulus.
/(sorta)

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:31:23am

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

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It’s almost like a race for the most horrible thing.

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:33:42am

When breakfast bites back…

253 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:33:48am

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

If the range is properly constructed and its users properly trained, there isn’t a danger of stray rounds.

And how will those stipulations (regulations?) be accomplished?

254 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:35:03am

re: #249 lawhawk

That took long enough. I guess there was a large wave of denial and belief in taking things back up after claiming divine forgiveness.

255 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:38:55am

re: #246 lawhawk

The money to fund the Defense Department. All those tanks, planes, nukes, aircraft carriers, and environmentally spoiled areas at places like Hanford and Oak Ridge. All came from somewhere.

Taxes, which is part of the compact between a people with a representative government, and a government to provide for the common good.

These numbnuts think taxes are an evil thing. Yet, most everything that society requires to function needs taxes to function properly.

Yeah. They are probably the first ones bitching about their roads not being plowed. Fuck them, they can go buy their own fucking plows and clear their way to work.

256 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:43:57am

re: #246 lawhawk

The money to fund the Defense Department. All those tanks, planes, nukes, aircraft carriers, and environmentally spoiled areas at places like Hanford and Oak Ridge. All came from somewhere.

Taxes, which is part of the compact between a people with a representative government, and a government to provide for the common good.

These numbnuts think taxes are an evil thing. Yet, most everything that society requires to function needs taxes to function properly.

Read this shit which the wingnuts are all umbegroyzelt about. They seem to think that NO MOAR TAXES!!!1!!! is a worth goal to strive for.

257 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:43:57am

re: #249 lawhawk

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I saw that privileged white guy and twice-divorced Connie Mack IV is going to run for his seat now?

Haha, he supports Wikileaks and signed the no tax “pledge” and supports a “balanced budget”. No doubt he’s at heart a flaming libertarian, but he’s also an empty suit who can handle neither money nor his personal life and simply trades on his name.

258 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:47:12am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

No tax “pledges” are very bipartisany and Very Serious. Only dirty American hating hippies don’t sign ‘no tax pledges’. /

259 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:48:27am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

Reports of roadblocks being set up outside of Kiev, also.

kyivpost.com

It won’t stop the protesters. They got another govt building.

260 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:49:24am
261 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:49:40am
262 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:51:00am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s almost like a race for the most horrible thing.

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Funny that the specifics, including his name, are lacking. I don’t believe a word of it, even while I also think some protesters aren’t angels, either.

263 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:53:49am

Speaking of NIN - when I listen to ‘Hurt,’ why do I hear the line ‘What have I become, my Swedish friend?’

‘Morning, all. Actually almost not cold here in NY today.

264 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:55:15am

HURR HURRRR!!!!11!!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL WAR ON TEH WIMMENS!!!11!!!!

265 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:56:13am

I don’t watch award shows so I didn’t see the Grammys last night, but apparently there were some teh gay people in them meaning the usual suspects are haz the sadz today.

266 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:58:09am

That sound you hear is the Tumblr fangirls having a collective spasm:

267 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:59:41am

re: #265 Bulworth

I don’t watch award shows so I didn’t see the Grammys last night, but apparently there were some teh gay people in them meaning the usual suspects are haz the sadz today.

I didn’t watch either since I have no interest in award shows. But it was an obviously wonderful PR move since they stirred up the nuts, showed unity with the gay community, and probably therefore drew a pile of additional viewers as a result - though many I guess were watching solely for the purpose of being “insulted”.

268 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:00:55am

This is interesting.

269 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:01:10am

re: #264 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURRRR!!!!11!!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL WAR ON TEH WIMMENS!!!11!!!!

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Actually, that particular Freep ad isn’t dumb. There have been good number of prominent Democrats who have behaved badly regarding women in recent years and calling attention to that fact is entirely within normal bounds.

270 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:01:48am

re: #267 Feline Fearless Leader

I’d suggest most did not watch it at all, but are reacting based on what someone else says they saw — probably several degrees removed.

271 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:01:56am

Tomorrow is the SOTU address after which every Republican Party official will be issuing his or her own individual response. Because one party response isn’t enough anymore. /

272 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:02:20am

This is the tweet

273 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:03:17am

re: #270 wheat-dogghazi

I’d suggest most did not watch it at all, but are reacting based on what someone else says they saw — probably several degrees removed.

There’s that as well. Though if FOX televised the Grammy’s I’m sure they would have watched simply out of habit.
/ ;)

274 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:03:29am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

Actually, that particular Freep ad isn’t dumb. There have been good number of prominent Democrats who have behaved badly regarding women in recent years and calling attention to that fact is entirely within normal bounds.

Yes, but only if having an affair is your definition of the war on woman.

275 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:04:16am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

Actually, that particular Freep ad isn’t dumb. There have been good number of prominent Democrats who have behaved badly regarding women in recent years and calling attention to that fact is entirely within normal bounds.

AFAIK, none of them were attempting to pass legislation making said bad behavior legal. That makes a difference.

276 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:05:16am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

Actually, that particular Freep ad isn’t dumb. There have been good number of prominent Democrats who have behaved badly regarding women in recent years and calling attention to that fact is entirely within normal bounds.

“Behaving badly” =/= Actively writing and passing laws that harm women

It’s a false equivalence.

277 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:13:07am

Max links excellent article over at FP about Berkut.

278 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:13:19am

re: #276 Lidane

“Behaving badly” =/= Actively writing and passing laws that harm women

It’s a false equivalence.

Precisely.

Anthony Weiner, Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, etc acted like absolute assholes and disrespected themselves and their families; but their actions are by no means a “war on women”.

279 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:13:32am

re: #276 Lidane

“Behaving badly” =/= Actively writing and passing laws that harm women

It’s a false equivalence.

False equivalence is within the normal bounds of political campaigning and advertising.

280 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:14:24am

re: #276 Lidane

“Behaving badly” =/= Actively writing and passing laws that harm women

It’s a false equivalence.

Plus if you going to go with bad behavior/cheating on your wife, you should include Newt Gingrich.

281 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:16:32am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

False equivalence is within the normal bounds of political campaigning and advertising.

I hope the Republicans run on this, it’s a losing issue for them. Most people can forgive an affair, but want their daughters to have access to birth control/abortion. Please proceed.

282 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:17:00am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

False equivalence is within the normal bounds of political campaigning and advertising.

It’s that kind of attitude that allows lying, subterfuge and other filthy tactics to crowd your party’s rhetoric.

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:17:20am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

False equivalence is within the normal bounds of political campaigning and advertising.

Normal bounds or not it is still a bullshit argument and approach to use.

284 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:17:25am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

False equivalence is within the normal bounds of political campaigning and advertising.

So you’re okay with your side peddling an obvious line of bullshit? Come on DF. You know better than that.

You’re basically arguing that it’s okay to blur the line between a politician having an affair and the types of laws that resulted in the obscenity here in Texas of that woman’s family being forced to keep her body on life support because she was pregnant when she died.

285 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:17:42am

re: #280 Iwouldprefernotto

And David Vitter, and John McCain … need I go on?

I really don’t think the GOP wants to go there.

286 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:18:06am

re: #271 Bulworth

Tomorrow is the SOTU address after which every Republican Party official will be issuing his or her own individual response. Because one party response isn’t enough anymore. /

Almost reeks of a fractured party.

287 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:18:12am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Precisely.

Anthony Weiner, Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, etc acted like absolute assholes and disrespected themselves and their families; but their actions are by no means a “war on women”.

Not only that, but they paid heavily for doing so. But IOKIYAR.

288 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:19:11am

re: #287 Justanotherhuman

Not only that, but they paid heavily for doing so. But IOKIYAR.

They did it because they were passionate about thier country and got carried away, the Dems did it because they hates them some wimminz.

289 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:19:18am

re: #280 Iwouldprefernotto

Plus if you going to go with bad behavior/cheating on your wife, you should include Newt Gingrich.

And Rudy Giuliani, Mark Sanford, Mark Foley, David Vitter, John Ensign, etc., ectc., etc.,

290 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:20:26am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

False equivalence is within the normal bounds of political campaigning and advertising.

OFFS, Dark.

291 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:20:28am
292 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:21:08am

Men behaving badly by engaging in adultery or lewd behaviors is not the same as men seeking to require women to undergo transvaginal ultrasounds in order to obtain abortions.

It’s not the same as men requiring women to drive hundreds of miles to seek abortions.

It’s not the same sport. Not in this universe.

The GOP has been looking to impose all kinds of laws that are the kind of government intrusion so small that it fits way up in the lady bits.

It’s the GOP that has gone to great lengths to try and claim that marital rape doesn’t exist. Or that it shouldn’t be a crime.

It’s the GOP who have candidates claiming that a woman should just put an aspirin between their legs.

It’s the GOP that has pushed for no exceptions for abortion access, including rape or incest.

And moreover, it’s the GOP that cares for the fetus only so far as birth. After that, the woman and her family are on their own. Safety nets be damned (and dismantled). Opposition to ACA and health care access, even when they’re demonstrably necessary to save lives and reduce costs by catching ailments before they spiral into much more expensive conditions.

293 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:21:34am

re: #287 Justanotherhuman

Not only that, but they paid heavily for doing so. But IOKIYAR.

No shit, IOKIYAR. Every 4 years Newt is in the running for the Presidency. Vitter is still in office. Mark Sanford is still in office. Rudy was running for the Presidency in 2008.

294 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:23:24am

re: #284 Lidane

You’re basically arguing that it’s okay to blur the line between a politician having an affair and the types of laws that resulted in the obscenity here in Texas of that woman’s family being forced to keep her body on life support because she was pregnant when she died.

Read. That. Again. With. Emphasis.

ETA: Reversed emphasis fonts for more clarity.

295 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:25:03am

re: #285 Rev_Arthur_Belling

And David Vitter, and John McCain … need I go on?

I really don’t think the GOP wants to go there.

I do. Please proceed, GOP. The GOP has permanently lost the Black vote. They are close to permanently losing the Hispanic vote. If they continue down their path with women, they are going to lose them as well. Please proceed, GOP.

296 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:25:14am

Morning all. Got a question. Is anyone having trouble with sites loading today? I was trying to follow some links from another site and many would not load, like Forbes. It seems like the ads loading may be the culprit. Just wondering.

297 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:26:00am

re: #292 lawhawk

Men behaving badly by engaging in adultery or lewd behaviors is not the same as men seeking to require women to undergo transvaginal ultrasounds in order to obtain abortions.

Not to mention the fact that said bad behavior is assumedly consensual on the part of the “other” woman involved (excepting the Anthony Weiner case, at least, iirc).

Adultery involves two parties making a choice - a bad choice, but nobody removes the free will of either party.

Which is exactly the opposite of what the GOP is doing.

298 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:27:05am

re: #294 chadu

Somebody please GUN SAFE PROTOCOL that one for me; I got to get dressed and leave for a meeting offsite.

299 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:29:07am

Fuck US Steel with some boiling metal. It’s part of the job, isn’t it, SC? What are you going to do with the next labor case, strip worker rights even more?

U.S. Steel wins Supreme Court labor fight

finance.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON, Jan 27 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Monday that employees at a U.S. Steel Corp plant do not have to be paid for the time they spend “donning and doffing” safety gear before and after their shifts.

The nine justices were unanimous in the ruling. Federal labor law excludes “changing clothes” from the time for which unionized employees must be paid, unless they have negotiated otherwise.

Cannot believe that this ruling was unanimous. A worker doesn’t “belong” to a company until they clock in and they shouldn’t have to wear a uniform or the company’s equipment or that required by law for the job until they do.

300 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:29:34am

re: #296 ObserverArt

Morning all. Got a question. Is anyone having trouble with sites loading today? I was trying to follow some links from another site and many would not load, like Forbes. It seems like the ads loading may be the culprit. Just wondering.

Cleaned your cache lately? : )

301 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:35:30am

re: #282 Justanotherhuman

It’s that kind of attitude that allows lying, subterfuge and other filthy tactics to crowd your party’s rhetoric.

True, but I’m in sales, which means that lying and subterfuge are tools of the trade for me. :)

302 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:37:00am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

True, but I’m in sales, which means that lying and subterfuge are tools of the trade for me. :)

If your goal is to make one sale and then totally alienate the customer, then that is the right approach…

303 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:37:02am

Ex-journalist admits hacking at Murdoch paper and rival Sunday Mirror

news.yahoo.com

and yet at the same time, another reason not to read the NY Post.

Eyeing digital growth, New York Post names new president

capitalnewyork.com

“According to the memo, Brinker, who’d worked with Angelo on News Corp’s failed tablet publication, The Daily, “will retain his title of Senior Vice President/Head of Corporate and Business Development at NewsCorp, and will continue the excellent work he does there for Chief Technology Officer Paul Cheesbrough and the rest of the team.”

304 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:38:43am

re: #300 Justanotherhuman

Cleaned your cache lately? : )

Yes. I do it quite often. The reason I bring up the ad loading issue is because they are fed from other than the site you are visiting. If you notice, there is that little status box down in the far left corner and if that seems to stay at one address and the little loading pinwheel in the upper status bar keeps spinning and the page isn’t opening, it usually indicates the servers feeding the ads are having link problems.

It already seems to be a bit better…might have been cold intertubes!

305 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:38:51am

Way OT:

This is the best news in weeks!

—> The Afghan Whigs To Release Their First New Album In Sixteen Years On Sub Pop

306 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:39:26am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

True, but I’m in sales, which means that lying and subterfuge are tools of the trade for me. :)

Which is why I never listen to a sales person when I’m checking out a product.

307 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:39:31am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

If your goal is to make one sale and then totally alienate the customer, then that is the right approach…

Well, I was kidding about the subterfuge and I’ve never lied about what the product I’m selling actually does. But I have said a product was flying off the self when in fact the store was working in had plenty of them left.

308 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:40:02am
309 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:44:20am
310 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:45:39am

As opposed to leaving them used and abused by the men who DO commit:

311 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:47:19am

re: #310 Lidane

Used and abused is always bad. But I don’t think contraception is the cause of that. The cause is that some men think its OK to be an asshole.

312 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:47:42am

re: #309 Pie-onist Overlord

All the womenz should listen and obey Bryan Fischer who truly has their best interest at heart. //

313 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:48:14am

re: #309 Pie-onist Overlord

Or leaves them in loving relationships with men who, like them, have no desire to procreate.

But nah, who am I kidding. Far as FischFace is concerned, women are babyfactories and nothing more.

314 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:49:34am

WTFITS
A blog with the word “Math” in it that can’t do Math.
HURR HURR TAX TEH POORS MOAR!!!!1!!!

315 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:50:16am

I should not be shocked at this point, but I still am at the notion of old white conservative men commenting on obsessing over women’s use of birth control.

316 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:52:13am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

I should not be shocked at this point, but I still am at the notion of old white conservative men commenting on obsessing over women’s use of birth control.

Dude, the GOP is the Party of Freedom™.

You are Free™ to do exactly as we instruct you to.

317 Mattand  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:53:34am

re: #284 Lidane

So you’re okay with your side peddling an obvious line of bullshit? Come on DF. You know better than that.

You’re basically arguing that it’s okay to blur the line between a politician having an affair and the types of laws that resulted in the obscenity here in Texas of that woman’s family being forced to keep her body on life support because she was pregnant when she died.

Do I even want to know the backstory of this discussion? If this is where it lead, I’m guessing not.

318 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:55:40am

re: #317 Mattand

Do I even want to know the backstory of this discussion? If this is where it lead, I’m guessing not.

Baby Factory #12801289797 had a unit mid-production when the plant shut down, Texas law required that the machines be kept running until the unit finished rolling off the assembly line.

You’ll take your Freedom™ and like it, all else be damned.

319 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:55:51am

re: #317 Mattand

Do I even want to know the backstory of this discussion? If this is where it lead, I’m guessing not.

Wingnuts are all like HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL WAR ON TEH WIMMENS!!!!1!!! because some Democrats were sexting or getting blowjobs or had multiple girlfriends while they were married to someone else.

320 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:56:55am

re: #317 Mattand

Do I even want to know the backstory of this discussion? If this is where it lead, I’m guessing not.

Not worth it. Daily D_F defending of the undefendable. He just worded it in a way this morning that drew a bit more ire than usual.

321 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:57:08am

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

322 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:57:15am

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

Used and abused is always bad. But I don’t think contraception is the cause of that. The cause is that some men think its OK to be an asshole.

Of course contraception isn’t the cause of it. The only people making that argument are the raving lunatics like Fischer.

The larger problem is the patriarchal mindset that turns women into property and marginalizes them. It’s the idea that a woman’s only value is as an incubator. She should just shut up, voluntarily submit to her boyfriend/husband and pump out kids every nine months. And she doesn’t need an education or a means of supporting herself because a real man takes care of his things. Oh, and if he leaves her or dies, she’d better not get any welfare. She’s just a filthy moocher and welfare queen then.

These are the ideas that your side advances through legislation. They’re the ideas that your side bows down to when they run towards the RWNJs in the primaries.

323 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:57:40am
324 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:58:12am

This is just being reported in Ukraine.

5:38 p.m, Jan. 27 — The reputable Ukrainian weekly Zerkalo Nedeli reports that the Cabinet of Ministers adopted a secret resolution to increase the number of riot troops sixfold. According to the newspaper’s information, the number in two special units, Berkut and Griffon, will go up to 30,000 officers. At the same time, they will be given more power. Secondly, the Justice Ministry is ordered to legalize creation of civic patrols to establish order in the streets, which could apply to “titushki,” the government-hired thugs who have recently been working in conjunction with the police. Also, the government is planning to close off 30 streets in Kyiv. Moreover, the Cabinet is planning to set aside money from the reserve fund, used for emergency situations, to buy ammunition and weapons for special forces. Zerkalo Nedeli also reports that the Cabinet is preparing documents about introduction of martial law. — Katya Gorchinksaya

kyivpost.com

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:58:32am

re: #322 Lidane

Of course contraception isn’t the cause of it. The only people making that argument are the raving lunatics like Fischer.

The larger problem is the patriarchal mindset that turns women into property and marginalizes them. It’s the idea that a woman’s only value is as an incubator. She should just shut up, voluntarily submit to her boyfriend/husband and pump out kids every nine months. And she doesn’t need an education or a means of supporting herself because a real man takes care of his things. Oh, and if he leaves her or dies, she’d better not get any welfare. She’s just a filthy moocher and welfare queen then.

These are the ideas that your side advances through legislation. They’re the ideas that your side bows down to when they run towards the RWNJs in the primaries.

These people are Kzinti in human-suits. All the way down to the “scream and leap” default attack method.
//

326 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:58:52am

re: #323 Pie-onist Overlord

Is that satire?

327 Mattand  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:00:02am

re: #318 GunstarGreen

re: #319 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #320 Feline Fearless Leader

LOL. It’s morning in America. Monday morning, at any rate.

And just to brighten your mornings even more:

328 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:00:59am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

Is that satire?

It’s Borowitz Report, so, maybe.

329 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:04:58am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

Is that satire?

Borowitz is generally satirical, but who can tell anymore?

330 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:05:44am

re: #328 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s Borowitz Report, so, maybe.

Borowitz Report is a satire site.

331 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:05:50am

re: #322 Lidane

Of course contraception isn’t the cause of it. The only people making that argument are the raving lunatics like Fischer.

The larger problem is the patriarchal mindset that turns women into property and marginalizes them. It’s the idea that a woman’s only value is as an incubator. She should just shut up, voluntarily submit to her boyfriend/husband and pump out kids every nine months. And she doesn’t need an education or a means of supporting herself because a real man takes care of his things. Oh, and if he leaves her or dies, she’d better not get any welfare. She’s just a filthy moocher and welfare queen then.

These are the ideas that your side advances through legislation. They’re the ideas that your side bows down to when they run towards the RWNJs in the primaries.

And if a wife is divorced, then society should view her as damaged goods, because there must be some good reason that her husband chose to end the marriage rather than making it work.

332 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:06:39am

re: #331 Targetpractice

And if a wife is divorced, then society should view her as damaged goods, because there must be some good reason that her husband chose to end the marriage rather than making it work.

Especially if that reason is patriotism.
//

333 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:07:42am

re: #324 Justanotherhuman

This is just being reported in Ukraine.

5:38 p.m, Jan. 27 — The reputable Ukrainian weekly Zerkalo Nedeli reports that the Cabinet of Ministers adopted a secret resolution to increase the number of riot troops sixfold. According to the newspaper’s information, the number in two special units, Berkut and Griffon, will go up to 30,000 officers. At the same time, they will be given more power. Secondly, the Justice Ministry is ordered to legalize creation of civic patrols to establish order in the streets, which could apply to “titushki,” the government-hired thugs who have recently been working in conjunction with the police. Also, the government is planning to close off 30 streets in Kyiv. Moreover, the Cabinet is planning to set aside money from the reserve fund, used for emergency situations, to buy ammunition and weapons for special forces. Zerkalo Nedeli also reports that the Cabinet is preparing documents about introduction of martial law. — Katya Gorchinksaya

kyivpost.com

This is heading for a very bloody encounter between both sides. Not good.

334 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:10:15am

re: #333 NJDhockeyfan

This is heading for a very bloody encounter between both sides. Not good.

It will simply prove how repressive the Ukraine govt is and how closely tied to Russia, as well.

335 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:10:36am

re: #324 Justanotherhuman

It’s something to keep am eye on. I’m just getting caught up this morning.
Ukrainian Ministry Freed on State of Emergency Threat

A state of emergency would expand the powers of President Viktor Yanukovych, whose weekend offer to share power with the opposition failed to end unrest that’s fanning out across much of the eastern European nation.

Imposing a state of emergency “would be very detrimental for the authorities as it would lead to further escalation, further destabilization and fiercer confrontation,” Yuriy Yakymenko, head of the political department at the Razumkov Center for Economical and Political Studies in Kiev, said by phone. “It would be a more painful means of resolution.”

336 piratedan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:10:48am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

True, but I’m in sales, which means that lying and subterfuge are tools of the trade for me. :)

yeah, after all, who needs customer service or repeat sales, will just sell them some line of bullshit and when our corporate name gets to be associated with shit incarnate, we’ll just change the name of the company and start a new ad campaign, that’s the ticket!

337 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:14:39am

re: #334 Justanotherhuman

True enough, but unless it gets NATO troops on the ground before the Russian tanks enter to claim the republic by right of conquest, it’s still no help to anything other than rebuilding Imperial Russia…

338 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:15:40am

re: #336 piratedan

re: #336 piratedan

yeah, after all, who needs customer service or repeat sales, will just sell them some line of bullshit and when our corporate name gets to be associated with shit incarnate, we’ll just change the name of the company and start a new ad campaign, that’s the ticket!

I think I read that storyline in Dilbert 20 years ago. I highly doubt anyone’s changed tack since then :-P

339 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:16:52am
340 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:17:31am

Ukraine borrows $2 billion from Moscow, signals bailout on track

Ukraine is borrowing another $2 billion from Russia on the same terms as a $3 billion Eurobond sold in December, in a sign that Moscow is pushing on with a $15 billion bailout despite concern about violence at anti-government protests in Kiev.

In a geopolitical battle with the European Union after Ukraine spurned a trade pact with the 28-state bloc, Russia agreed on credits and cheaper gas for Kiev in December to help its fellow former Soviet republic meet huge debt payments.

The deal brought a breathing space for the government but the protests have since spiraled into violent unrest in the capital and other cities, forcing President Viktor Yanukovich into talks with opponents who mistrust Moscow.

341 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:20:13am

re: #337 Chrysicat

True enough, but unless it gets NATO troops on the ground before the Russian tanks enter to claim the republic by right of conquest, it’s still no help to anything other than rebuilding Imperial Russia…

I think the Russians are just too serious about this and I doubt NATO is going to risk direct conflict to stop Russian expansion into Ukraine.

342 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:22:05am

HURR HURR!!!11!! IT ALL TEH DEMOCRATZ FAULT!!!!!11!!!!!

343 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:22:09am

re: #341 Killgore Trout

I think the Russians are just too serious about this and I doubt NATO is going to risk direct conflict to stop Russian expansion into Ukraine.

Which is depressing, because all the pipelines for non-Russian petroleum and gas into Europe run through Ukraine. With it back in Russian hands, they could conceivably force puppetry as far as Paris.

344 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:23:33am

re: #341 Killgore Trout

I think the Russians are just too serious about this and I doubt NATO is going to risk direct conflict to stop Russian expansion into Ukraine.

Neither NATO or the EU is not going to directly intervene in Ukraine. End of story.

They may well issue a “sternly-worded” protest, but that’s about the extent of it.

345 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:23:52am

re: #339 Pie-onist Overlord

I pay more for gas today than I did in high school 33+ years ago.

THANKS, OBAMA.

346 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:24:43am
347 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:24:50am

re: #342 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!! IT ALL TEH DEMOCRATZ FAULT!!!!!11!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Dodd-Frank was AFTER the crash!

348 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:25:04am

re: #342 Pie-onist Overlord

Dodd Frank came after the collapse. Not before.

The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Pub.L. 111-203, H.R. 4173; commonly referred to as Dodd-Frank) was signed into federal law by President Barack Obama on July 21, 2010.

Recession started in late 2008 and was at its worst during 2009, when the budget priorities were still a holdover from the last year of the Bush Administration. Fiscal year runs 10/1 to 9/30 of following year.

FY 2009 began October 1, 2008, and was enacted by the Congress in 2008. Before Obama took office.

349 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:25:07am

Wow is she ever fucking dumb.

350 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:25:43am

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow is she ever fucking dumb.

She’s smoking the TP ganja.

351 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:26:02am

re: #343 Chrysicat

Which is depressing, because all the pipelines for non-Russian petroleum and gas into Europe run through Ukraine. With it back in Russian hands, they could conceivably force puppetry as far as Paris.

One of the reasons a pipeline needs to be built from the Middle East into Turkey, and from Turkey, into the EU.

It will break Moscow’s stranglehold on natural gas.

With any luck, it’ll put a nice-size dent in their budget as well. If the Saudis could ramp up more production, say, get the price of a barrel of oil down to $60/bbl, that would really hit Moscow in the pocketbook; their budget is predicated on oil in the $100/bbl range.

352 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:26:35am

re: #345 chadu

I pay more for gas today than I did in high school 33+ years ago.

THANKS, OBAMA.

I have such fond memories of the “gas wars” in the olden days when service station prices would drop to 30 cents a gallon or lower…

353 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:26:37am

re: #350 Targetpractice

She’s smoking the TP ganja.

More like mainlineing the TP meth.

354 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:27:03am

re: #342 Pie-onist Overlord

She’s stupid. Dodd-Frank wasn’t signed until 2010. The financial meltdown was in 2008.

355 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:27:10am

HURR HURRR!!!!! THAT MY STORY & I’M STICKING TO IT!!!11!!

356 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:29:14am

Wow a bunch of telemarketers lost their jrrbz selling sub-prime mortgages. THANKS OBAMA!

357 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:29:42am

Weird internet morning-can’t get LA times, CNN, HuffPo or Wired.

LGF and Google news run well. And the out or just me sites say it’s just me.

Saw this at first at home now at work. Bot At&T though. Must be a net neutrality battle.
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358 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:29:44am
359 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:30:39am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

Is that satire?

It is tagged ‘Humor’, so yes.

360 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:31:43am

By #DNC I think she means the Do Not Call law.

361 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:32:05am
362 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:34:49am

WHY is this asshole one of my Senators? Ugh.

363 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:35:13am

re: #361 Lidane

I don’t get all this talk of revolution. Obama is a lameduck president, and midterm elections are this year. Are these people that impatient?

364 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:35:18am

re: #358 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Gettin’ downright medieval out there.

365 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:36:05am

re: #358 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Someone is having Fun With Photoshop. Though the Bakrut riot police do use shields shaped much like the shields of the Roman Legion and they make use of the Legion testudo (‘tortoise’) formation.

As I’ve noted before, it can rendered in Internet AdSpeak as:

See how the Bakrut keeps protestors back using this Weird Old Roman Trick!

366 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:37:22am

re: #364 Targetpractice

Gettin’ downright medieval out there.

Medieval facepalm:

367 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:38:15am

re: #363 wheat-dogghazi

I don’t get all this talk of revolution. Obama is a lameduck president, and midterm elections are this year. Are these people that impatient?

They flipped their shit when the old white guy lost to the young black guy in 2008.

They went completely bonkers when their alternate reality bubble was popped in 2012. They were quite literally watching a different election than everyone else and the outcome shocked them. Of course, that means that Obama cheated somehow and that he’s a tyrant that must be overthrown. Or something.

368 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:38:20am

re: #363 wheat-dogghazi

I don’t get all this talk of revolution. Obama is a lameduck president, and midterm elections are this year. Are these people that impatient?

Because the GOP candidate pool is a complete mess. They foresee another loss in 2016 unless they massively change the rules.

370 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:40:12am

re: #344 Dr Lizardo

Neither NATO or the EU is not going to directly intervene in Ukraine. End of story.

They may well issue a “sternly-worded” protest, but that’s about the extent of it.

I think that’s about right. I’m pretty sure the EU doesn’t even really want to be burdened by Ukraine. The stronger countries in the EU like France, Gemany (who have most of the political power) already have economic dead weight with countries like Greece, Spain, Italy and possibly Turkey. They would really rather not adopt another burden.

371 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:40:22am

re: #363 wheat-dogghazi

I don’t get all this talk of revolution. Obama is a lameduck president, and midterm elections are this year. Are these people that impatient?

Well, when you’re looking at a 2% attrition rate per year and the other side’s looking at a 3% recruitment rate, eventually you start seeing that the only way you’re gonna get your ideas to be practiced is to lock ‘em in writing and then make sure you have a judiciary that interprets any liberalizations as unconstitutional…
…or, failing having-managed-that-in-time, that you take advantage of having all the trained warriors to establish a tyranny of the minority…

372 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:41:09am

re: #368 Feline Fearless Leader

Because the GOP candidate pool is a complete mess. They foresee another loss in 2016 unless they massively change the rules.

If that’s true, they are more self-aware than we give them credit. Of course, their main problem is they think they don’t have a candidate that’s “conservative enough” to win the election.

373 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:41:11am

re: #362 Lidane

The President will apologize to those states whose GOP representatives have blocked implementation of programs designed to help more people get access to affordable health insurance or expanded Medicaid.

He will say he’s sorry for the fact that those folks have voted for the wrong party and that if they want to fix their sorry economic and health situations, they ought to reconsider who they elect to Congress.

374 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:41:47am
375 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:42:17am

re: #364 Targetpractice

Gettin’ downright medieval out there.

Next will be a trojan horse spotted rolling down the street.

376 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:44:56am

re: #372 wheat-dogghazi

If that’s true, they are more self-aware than we give them credit. Of course, their main problem is they think they don’t have a candidate that’s “conservative enough” to win the election.

And some of them think the GOP itself is also too corrupt and needs to be overthrown as well as part of the same package.

377 Skip Intro  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:45:10am

re: #372 wheat-dogghazi

If that’s true, they are more self-aware than we give them credit. Of course, their main problem is they think they don’t have a candidate that’s “conservative enough” to win the election.

And any potential candidate who passes that test today will be considered a flaming RINO a year from now.

378 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:45:16am

re: #363 wheat-dogghazi

I don’t get all this talk of revolution. Obama is a lameduck president, and midterm elections are this year. Are these people that impatient?

Just stupid and mad that not only did the black man get elected but the silly unreal Americans reelected him!

Can’t wait to see their heads when the next Democrat beats Hillary to get elected in ‘16 considering how primed they are to hate on her.

379 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:45:39am

re: #375 NJDhockeyfan

Next will be a trojan horse spotted rolling down the street.

Are you sure that it’s not really a large wooden badger?
:D

380 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:46:29am

re: #342 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!! IT ALL TEH DEMOCRATZ FAULT!!!!!11!!!!!

RT @viciousbabushka @MiamiLib @BlindManMark Bush didnt crash economy! DNC in congress did! Look up Dodd Frank Bill t.co
— Michelle (@MDL67) January 27, 2014

Is this person talking about the bill that was signed AFTER the crash?

381 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:46:41am

TEH STUPID IT BURNS! IT BURNSS US PRECIOUSSSS!!!!1!!

382 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:46:45am

re: #378 William Barnett-Lewis

Just stupid and mad that not only did the black man get elected but the silly unreal Americans reelected him!

Can’t wait to see their heads when the next Democrat beats Hillary to get elected in ‘16 considering how primed they are to hate on her.

That will be hilarious, if they spend all of the next two years hating on Hillary in anticipation of ‘16, only for someone else to win the nomination (again).

383 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:48:04am

re: #380 Eventual Carrion

Is this person talking about the bill that was signed AFTER the crash?

That person doesn’t know what she(?) is talking about.

384 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:49:10am

Is there a name for the political structure of the EU? It’s not a democracy since a few countries with the most economic strength hold most of the permanent political power. They also have a weird rotating leadership figurehead who seems mostly powerless. It’s seems to be structured on the same model as the UN (with the Security council and randomly rotating spokesman role). Is there a name for that?

385 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:49:18am

Pretty good article here from Frank Rich at New York magazine on how Fox News is suffering the same fate as its rapidly-aging - and declining - demographic, largely owing to Roger Ailes and his apparent inability to see that younger folks are watching less TV, and moving to the internet as a source of information.

nymag.com

386 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:49:26am

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH STUPID IT BURNS! IT BURNSS US PRECIOUSSSS!!!!1!!

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It’s gotta be a satire account - even the Teahadi aren’t usually that mind numbingly stupid.

387 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:52:02am

re: #386 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s gotta be a satire account - even the Teahadi aren’t usually that mind numbingly stupid.

If it’s not satire, it’s someone desperately in need of an Econ class.

388 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:53:19am

re: #387 Lidane

If it’s not satire, it’s someone desperately in need of an Econ class functional brain.

Fixed.

389 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:53:45am

6:31 p.m., Jan. 27 — President Viktor Yanukovych and United Nationa Secretary General Ban Ki-moon talked today by telephone. The parties discussed the current political situation in Ukraine. During the call, Yanukovych stressed the importance of continuing the dialogue through negotiations for finding optimal solutions to the political crisis. In turn, the UN secretary-general stressed the importance of peaceful settlement of the situation. He urged all parties to exercise maximum restraint and to find ways to resolve the crisis through dialogue. In this regard, Ban Ki-moon expressed his readiness to send to Ukraine UN special representative to participate in this dialogue. — Katya Gorchinskaya

kyivpost.com

390 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:54:03am

Wikipeadia says the EU is technically a federation but I think there’s a slightly different philosophy behind its structure.

391 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:54:10am

re: #387 Lidane

If it’s not satire, it’s someone desperately in need of an Econ class.

It is an Article of Faith that the 2008 crash was all about giving guaranteed government loans to minorities, not about private banks giving nearly unlimited loans to anyone regardless of race, color or ability to repay.

392 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:54:56am

re: #384 Killgore Trout

Is there a name for the political structure of the EU? It’s not a democracy since a few countries with the most economic strength hold most of the permanent political power. They also have a weird rotating leadership figurehead who seems mostly powerless. It’s seems to be structured on the same model as the UN (with the Security council and randomly rotating spokesman role). Is there a name for that?

I’ve seen it called a “presidential republic”, meaning Yanukovych is totally running the show, not Parliament.

393 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:55:55am

re: #347 Targetpractice

Dodd-Frank was AFTER the crash!

Ha, that is what I thought too.

394 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:56:15am

re: #385 Dr Lizardo

Pretty good article here from Frank Rich at New York magazine on how Fox News is suffering the same fate as its rapidly-aging - and declining - demographic, largely owing to Roger Ailes and his apparent inability to see that younger folks are watching less TV, and moving to the internet as a source of information.

nymag.com

Probably even a good percentage of us old people. : )

395 Slap  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:56:50am

re: #142 William Barnett-Lewis

Late, but some of mine….

Edgar Winter Group (w/Rick Derringer) and ELO, Jax, 1973
Bill Evans Trio (Cellar Door, DC) with Eddie Gomez
Fairport Convention (Lisner 1985 - Swarbrick’s last tour with the band)
Little Feat (Lisner 1977 — 2nd night of Waiting for Columbus shows)
Jethro Tull (Hampton Coliseum, 1974 — War Child tour)
THE CLASH (Ontario Theater, DC 1978) First US Tour. (Absolutely apocalyptic.)
Utopia (the Bayou, DC — 78?)
Captain Beefheart (the Bayou, DC) (Doc at the Radar Station tour)
Bowie (Cap Center, DC) the Stage tour, with Adrian Effing Belew!! on lead
Fripp (Washington Ethical Society, DC 1978-ish?) Solo Frippertronics

WAY too many more to list, but these stand out at the moment….!

396 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:57:17am

January is a horrible month for NASA. On this day in 1967 , Apollo 1 was destroyed in a launchpad fire that killed all three astronauts on board: Virgil I. “Gus” Grissom, Edward H. White II and Roger B. Chaffee.

en.wikipedia.org

397 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:57:44am
Also
@Lidane
@viciousbabushka
@MiamiLib
@BlindManMark
if U didnt know Obama is falsely inflating the stock market to record highs with tax $
— Michelle (@MDL67)

Whut? Lol.

398 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:57:56am

re: #392 Justanotherhuman

I’ve seen it called a “presidential republic”, meaning Yanukovych is totally running the show, not Parliament.

I was wondering about European Union, not Ukraine.

399 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:58:02am

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

Obama is inflating the stock market with tax dollars!

If we take that on its face, then isn’t Obama shuffling tax dollars to the rich moneyed class since they’re the ones who have the money to invest in the first place. Rich getting richer and all that?

400 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:58:32am

re: #387 Lidane

If it’s not satire, it’s someone desperately in need of an Econ class.

Yeah, I know that on the one hand but good grief it’s just so dumb that I’d like to pretend otherwise… O_o

401 Skip Intro  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:59:33am

re: #383 Dark_Falcon

That person doesn’t know what she(?) is talking about.

No, but she’s very confident about it. We see a lot of that now.

402 piratedan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:00:36am

re: #401 Skip Intro

No, but she’s very confident about it. We see a lot of that now.

she puts the “r” in stupid…..

403 Slap  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:00:38am

re: #396 William Barnett-Lewis

January is a horrible month for NASA. On this day in 1967 , Apollo 1 was destroyed in a launchpad fire that killed all three astronauts on board: Virgil I. “Gus” Grissom, Edward H. White II and Roger B. Chaffee.

en.wikipedia.org

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I still have vivid memories of that. Ed White was a hero to this space-obsessed kid, and I could not wrap my 10-yr old brain around such an awful tragedy….

Thank you for keeping that memory alive.

404 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:00:44am

re: #395 Slap

Saw Bowie’s Glass Spiders tour. Lots of fun and only newer material which made a guy behind me very sad - “No Ziggy???”

405 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:00:52am

re: #398 Killgore Trout

I was wondering about European Union, not Ukraine.

Sorry, misread.

I think the EU does have a sort of “advisory style parliament”, as a matter of fact.

This was pretty easy to find.

europarl.europa.eu

406 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:00:52am

re: #374 Lidane

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That one of the women is wearing a Red Army greatcoat and fur hat is actually unsurprising. By the winter of 1945 the Soviet Union was actually producing a modest surplus of winter clothing and the troops who liberated Auschwitz gave what extra clothing their division had to the former prisoners.

The above though assumes the woman in question was not part of the Red Army herself. Though by January of 1945 women were largely gone from combat positions in the Red Army (although those who were part of tank crews stayed in their units till war’s end), they remained in many support positions and likely would have been brought forward to help with female ex-prisoners.

407 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:01:23am

HURR HURR!!!11! TEH JUICE WON’T REVIEW MY JUICE-HATING BOOK IN TEH JUICE-YORK TIMES BOOK REVIEW!!!1!!!!!

408 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:01:50am

re: #383 Dark_Falcon

That person doesn’t know what she(?) is talking about.

But that doesn’t stop her and the other RWNJs from derping away.

Now they’ve decided that it’s all Clinton’s fault since the original derp about Dodd-Frank failed.

409 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:01:54am

re: #397 Bulworth

Whut? Lol.

LOL. So Obama is “stealing from the rich for the moocher poor” while at the same time manipulating the stock market to new highs with tax dollars - and that latter operation benefits who???

Obama is legion even more so than Romney holding all views on every issue.
/////

410 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:03:04am

re: #401 Skip Intro

No, but she’s very confident about it. We see a lot of that now.

It’s the arrogance of ignorance.

411 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:03:14am

re: #403 Slap

I still have vivid memories of that. Ed White was a hero to this space-obsessed kid, and I could not wrap my 10-yr old brain around such an awful tragedy….

Thank you for keeping that memory alive.

I was only three. But I have a flight jacket that has the Apollo 1, Challenger & Columbia mission patches on one of the sleeves of the Jacket in memory of all our fallen stars.

412 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:04:47am

Speaking of people in dire need of a functional brain:

413 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:05:07am
414 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:05:25am

re: #408 Lidane

But that doesn’t stop her and the other RWNJs from derping away.

Now they’ve decided that it’s all Clinton’s fault since the original derp about Dodd-Frank failed.

To be fair, Bill Clinton did sign the bill repealing Glass-Steagal. So while the 2008 crash is clearly not “all Clinton’s fault”, he does merit a small portion of the blame.

415 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:07:24am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

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And thereby close up the funding for Tea Party groups while making lots of inventory available for purchase by the folks at Games Plus and Gamer’s World?

Please Proceed, Hobby Lobby.

416 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:09:16am

Cracking down in The Crimea. Espreso TV report.

In Crimea banned “Freedom”

Henceforth, activities and symbols of “Svoboda” in Crimea outlawed

“The decision adopted today, the Presidium of the Supreme Council of autonomy
Espreso.TV reports citing the official website of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea .

In the Presidium “On measures to promote the protection order and public safety in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea” , the need to make a decision due to ” anti-constitutional coup in 10 regions of Ukraine , forced seizure of strategic ministries, blocking and storm office buildings, threatened status of autonomy and the Constitution of the ARC ” .

The document says that ” all active participants in the riots and unconstitutional actions are ” Svoboda ” and other radical character formation .” So given the above, the Presidium of the Crimean parliament decided to ban autonomy in the activities and symbols in “Freedom” and other formations of the radical nature of a threat to national reconciliation , public security and order and demand that the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine immediately decide on the termination of their activities.

Also its decision addressed to the Presidium of the republican Interior Ministry head office at the entrance to strengthen the protection of autonomy - bus stations, airports, railway stations, etc. Perekopsk”

417 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:09:22am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

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Good lord, talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

This kind of derangement is mind-boggling to behold.

418 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:10:10am

BUT WHEN YOU COME BACK & YOU’RE ALL UNEMPLOYED & HOMELESS & NEED A JRRB OR FOOD THEN FUCK YOU.

419 Skip Intro  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:10:49am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

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What a fookin’ nut case. I wish we had one of their stores where I live so I could consciously avoid it.

420 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:11:37am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

Hobby Lobby are a bunch of hypocrites. My cousin works in a warehouse for HL and she most definitely works Sundays, as do their truck drivers. Closing their doors on Sunday is nothing more than a marketing pitch to the fundies.

421 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:11:56am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord
T

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Let them. The corporate niche will be quickly filled by a decent company.

Capitalism… dig it?

422 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:11:58am

HURR HURR!!!11!! TEH POORS CAUSED TEH HOUSING CRASH BY TAKIN OUT LOANS THEY COULDN’T AFFORD TO PAY BACK!!!11!!!

423 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:12:18am

re: #416 Justanotherhuman

Presidium of the Crimean parliament decided to ban autonomy in the activities and symbols in “Freedom” and other formations of the radical nature of a threat to national reconciliation , public security and order and demand that the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine immediately decide on the termination of their activities.

Damn, that’s fucking Orwellian.

424 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:12:52am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

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Let them. It’ll hurt their own fortunes more than anyone else. I don’t like seeing people out of work, but the company will simply create more people who despise them.

425 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:13:19am

re: #418 Pie-onist Overlord

BUT WHEN YOU COME BACK & YOU’RE ALL UNEMPLOYED & HOMELESS & NEED A JRRB OR FOOD THEN FUCK YOU.

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DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE COST ME TAX DOLLARS FOR THE VA MOOCHER!!!

426 gwangung  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:14:03am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Staggeringly innumerate (not nearly enough land owned by “poor”people to crash an economy) and predictably fact free.

427 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:14:09am
428 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:15:51am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

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So are they threatening to remain closed so long as the mandate remains? Or just until their bank accounts start hurting?

429 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:17:41am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, Bill Clinton did sign the bill repealing Glass-Steagal. So while the 2008 crash is clearly >not “all Clinton’s fault”, he does merit a small portion of the blame.

FYI: by saying that, you agree with Elizabeth Warren. :)

430 piratedan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:18:04am

re: #412 Lidane

Speaking of people in dire need of a functional brain:

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because the planet can only be saved by tax cuts for the rich, everyone knows that! //////////////////////////

431 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:18:35am

re: #428 Targetpractice

So are they threatening to remain closed so long as the mandate remains? Or just until their bank accounts start hurting?

Until they can fire everyone and rehire them as part-time employees so they can skirt the law.

432 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:19:23am

That’s not “Socialism” you’re thinking of Waltonism.

433 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:23:10am

re: #432 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s not “Socialism” you’re thinking of Waltonism.

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By that definition, every person who inherits their wealth is socialist. And anybody who does not an ounce of physical labor but instead “manages” is also a socialist.

434 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:23:24am

re: #431 Lidane

Until they can fire everyone and rehire them as part-time employees so they can skirt the law.

See, it’s funny because people take the popular tack of blaming the ACA for the current practice of companies screwing their workers into part-time status to avoid having to give them benefits.

Weird how the same companies were doing the exact same damn thing when I served my time in the K empire back in the aughts. Except back then they didn’t have any new law to blame, they just laughed at you as they scheduled you right up to the legal definition of “full time” and then cut off half an hour.

Scum gonna scum, they just have a convenient scapegoat now.

435 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:24:42am

re: #429 Lidane

FYI: by saying that, you agree with Elizabeth Warren. :)

I’m not the only person on the right side of the aisle who feels that way. It’s not just liberals who find “Too Big To Fail” (TBTF) intensely problematic. Maybe we don’t want to bring back Glass-Steagall (GlSt) as it was (things do change, and we’d want to alter the law a bit to fit the times, as was done several times during Gl-St’s lifetime), but I think we’d be better off putting back a few fences that were taken down.

If that puts me in company with Senator Warren, then any resulting bill can start out bipartisan.

436 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:25:12am

re: #434 GunstarGreen

Scum gonna scum, they just have a convenient scapegoat now.

Oh sure. It’s been going on for years. The rubes have just accepted Obamacare as the reason they’re suddenly working for an hourly wage or getting their hours cut.

437 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:26:39am

re: #435 Dark_Falcon

If it’s too big to fail, it’s too big to remain unregulated. The government has the Constitutionally mandated task to care for the common good, that falls well within its powers.

438 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:27:02am

BBIAB.

439 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:30:33am

Oh now this is just awful. Bitter much?

Srsly?

440 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:31:12am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

Hobby Lobby threatens to close its stores and put its employees out of work to make an anti-contraception statement.

Wow, we could be looking at a hobby shortage.

441 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:33:36am

re: #439 Political Atheist

Oh now this is just awful. Bitter much?

Srsly?

Eggman Drudge is gay…..right? Talk about self-loathing.

442 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:34:28am

re: #439 Political Atheist

Not just stupid and bigoted, but badly kerned.

443 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:34:40am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Confirmed. FACT.

444 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:36:03am

OFFS.

dailymail.co.uk

WTF is wrong with people?

445 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:36:42am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord


Slutty pills to prevent pregnancy ===== killing babies!!!11!11

446 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:37:20am

re: #439 Political Atheist

Watched that segment, and was like, okay. Madonna actually looked her age for the first time like forever. Queen Latifah presides and 30 couples in the crowd pass rings to each other and it’s done.

That’s the big deal? 30 couples just got married?

But that’s exactly the point.

SSM or hetero marriage. Not a bit of difference in the end. Two people in love with each other, and able to have the same benefits of a civil marriage.

And none of that affects mine (or anyone else’s existing marriage one iota).

447 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:37:29am

re: #440 jaunte

Wow, we could be looking at a hobby shortage.

If you read the TP blog at the link, the only reference to store closure is in its BS headline. The Hobby Lobby statement is old, several months at least. The TP Blog is just being TP.

448 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:40:16am

I thought we were already living in tyranny because Obama. Could the RWNJs please find a narrative and stick to it?

449 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:40:23am

re: #447 Decatur Deb

If you read the TP blog at the link, the only reference to store closure is in its BS headline. The Hobby Lobby statement is old, several months at least. The TP Blog is just being TP.

Curses, pwn3d again! Curse you CLICKBAIT!!

450 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:40:33am

re: #444 Dr Lizardo

>OFFS.

dailymail.co.uk

WTF is wrong with people?

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WTF???

A graphic designer has been suspended by the concentration camp museum where he worked for using their printers to produce anti-Semitic propaganda - including posters reading: ‘Jews go home’

Staff at Majdanek in Poland - where 80,000 people were murdered by Nazis during World War Two - called in the police after discovering the cache of offensive material produced on site.

A man named as Krzysztof K, who worked at the museum for 20 years, is accused of being part of a group which distributed offensive Nazi material around the town.

How does someone do this after working there for 20 years? Did he not pay attention to what happened? Is he just an idiot and if so how was he able to keep his job for so long?

451 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:43:32am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

WTF???

How does someone do this after working there for 20 years? Did he not pay attention to what happened? Is he just an idiot and if so how was he able to keep his job for so long?

There is a certain species of bigot who actually gets off on this stuff as torture/murder pr0n. He sees the photos on the piles of dead Juice (or the whipped backs of the Black slaves) and it’s exciting!

I wish I was making this up. :(

452 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:44:01am

good grief!

Lawsuit filed over alleged rape victim’s arrest

CINCINNATI —A woman who was arrested after telling a Cincinnati police officer that she had been raped is suing the officer.
Attorney Eric Deters said the lawsuit against Officer Adrienne Brown was filed Monday morning.

The rest of the story is outrageous. If true, then a lawsuit is not surprising in the least.

453 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:44:15am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

Curses, pwn3d again! Curse you CLICKBAIT!!

No prob. it’s probably a good thing to preserve a few tea partiers—like keeping a jar of medical leeches.

454 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:46:16am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

WTF???

How does someone do this after working there for 20 years? Did he not pay attention to what happened? Is he just an idiot and if so how was he able to keep his job for so long?

I can think of no explanation other then wilful ignorance on Mr. K’s part.

455 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:48:10am

Dear Job Fair Organizer,

It’s not an employment event if most of your exhibitors are trade schools looking for new students instead of companies looking to actively hire people. Also, yes, I’m looking for work, but asking me dress professionally to speak with legalized loan shark companies and appliance stores? Really?

Thanks for wasting my time. Bleah.

No love,
Me

456 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:49:10am
457 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:50:34am

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow is she ever fucking dumb.

I seldom click on the links to check some of the twits whose tweets you post, but her image made me think, I have to check her out a bit. Under her photo:

It’s time for REAL leaders in America! I support Ted Cruz, Mike Lee & Trey Gowdy, Allen West, Ben Carson…. Bring integrity back to the White House & Congress!

Yep, all I need to know.

And what the hell. I’ve been seeing more and more ‘nuts mentioning Ben Carson as a Presidential candidate leader type. Huh??? Just because he spouts all the stupid shit you want to here and he is a leader.

I feel real sad (and sick) for this country and its future.

458 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:51:00am

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

459 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:52:11am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

WTF???

How does someone do this after working there for 20 years? Did he not pay attention to what happened? Is he just an idiot and if so how was he able to keep his job for so long?

He might have concealed his bigoted feelings until now, Unfortunately, Anti-Semitism has a long history in Poland and it did not end with the death of Hitler.

This guy likely also had access to digital copies of Nazi propaganda, because some of those posters look like direct takes on the posters put out by Nazi Germany. The Germans put up a good many Polish-language Anti-Semitic posters in a somewhat successful effort to get Poles to turn in any Jews they knew of hiding or those of mixed- Polish-Jewish heritage. Goebbels and his underlings were sickly good at designing posters to push the buttons they wanted pushed, so its not surprising this dirtbag went with themes that worked in the past.

460 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:52:15am

Hey I know! Obama can nationalize the oil companies! You want that don’t you?
Communist.

461 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:52:39am

re: #455 Lidane

Dear Job Fair Organizer,

It’s not an employment event if most of your exhibitors are trade schools looking for new students instead of companies looking to actively hire people. Also, yes, I’m looking for work, but asking me dress professionally to speak with legalized loan shark companies and appliance stores? Really?

Thanks for wasting my time. Bleah.

No love,
Me

That sucks.

462 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:52:48am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

More like mainlineing the TP meth.

Nah…PCP. All their views are small and distorted and they think they are more powerful than they are.

463 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:53:18am

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

He might have concealed his bigoted feelings until now, Unfortunately, Anti-Semitism has a long history in Poland and it did not end with the death of Hitler.

This guy likely also had access to digital copies of Nazi propaganda, because some of those posters look like direct takes on the posters put out by Nazi Germany. The Germans put up a good many Polish-language Anti-Semitic posters in a somewhat successful effort to get Poles to turn in any Jews they knew of hiding or those of mixed- Polish-Jewish heritage. Goebbels and his underlings were sickly good at designing posters to push the buttons they wanted pushed, so its not surprising this dirtbag went with themes that worked in the past.

The further East you go in Europe, the stronger the anti-Semitism gets. That’s been my experience.

464 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:53:55am

re: #458 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

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465 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:54:25am

re: #357 Political Atheist

Weird internet morning-can’t get LA times, CNN, HuffPo or Wired.

LGF and Google news run well. And the out or just me sites say it’s just me.

Saw this at first at home now at work. Bot At&T though. Must be a net neutrality battle.
///

Ah-ha! I was mentioned earlier the intertubes were struggling. Glad to know I am not the only one.

466 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:54:45am

re: #462 ObserverArt

Nah…PCP. All their views are small and distorted and they think they are more powerful than they are.

Mescaline. To go with their mesclun word salad.

467 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:54:45am

FYI. The vile turd’s twitter account (i.e., @Todd__Kincannon) has been suspended yet again.

468 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:55:34am

re: #458 Pie-onist Overlord

Isn’t the argument FOR subsidies that they LOWER prices?

You’d think these two nitwits would be arguing in favor of subsidies because without them, gas would cost $8/gal or more.

469 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:57:13am
470 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:57:21am

So what does the brain dead bint think would lower gas prices? “Drill baby drill”? Lower corporate taxes? Begging on hands and knees for the oil companies to charge less?

471 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:57:57am

re: #458 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe the tweeter should think about switching to a higher fuel efficiency vehicle. I know that equals tyranny and dictatorship, but what can you do? ////

472 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:58:51am

re: #469 Pie-onist Overlord

His Muslim Brotherhood advisors I might add. //

473 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:59:17am

re: #458 Pie-onist Overlord

Oil prices. How does that market work? /

I doubt the witless wonder is going to be complaining about the oil/energy speculators who bid up oil prices or who attempt to cash in on international crises on a regular basis. Or that the US market is just part of how prices are set.

And if the US increases production of oil, other producers can curb theirs so as to keep prices high (and to where they maximize profits - which is in the $100 a barrel range).

474 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:00:16am

re: #470 Targetpractice

So what does the brain dead bint think would lower gas prices? “Drill baby drill”? Lower corporate taxes? Begging on hands and knees for the oil companies to charge less?

Or this…….

Trump: Oh, it’s so easy George. It’s so easy. It’s all about the messenger. They wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for us. If it weren’t for us, they wouldn’t be there. These 12 guys sit around a table and they say, “Let’s just screw the United States.” And frankly, the rest of the world. Look. I’m going to look ‘em in the eye and say, “Fellas, you’ve had your fun. Your fun is over.”

475 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:01:31am
476 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:01:54am

re: #474 Dr. Matt

Or this…….

Trump: Oh, it’s so easy George. It’s so easy. It’s all about the messenger. They wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for us. If it weren’t for us, they wouldn’t be there. These 12 guys sit around a table and they say, “Let’s just screw the United States.” And frankly, the rest of the world. Look. I’m going to look ‘em in the eye and say, “Fellas, you’ve had your fun. Your fun is over.”

And they’d look him in the eye and say “And what are you going to do about it?” Raise their taxes? Take them to court? Ban their products? The Donald doesn’t seem to understand that the presidency does not make one a dictator.

477 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:02:02am

re: #458 Pie-onist Overlord

So this was the RWNJ talking point that went out for today I see. Also, too, taxes.

478 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:02:12am

re: #470 Targetpractice

So what does the brain dead bint think would lower gas prices? “Drill baby drill”? Lower corporate taxes? Begging on hands and knees for the oil companies to charge less?

The US is producing more oil now than before Obama.

To drop gas prices, oil prices would need to be reduced. If oil prices reduce substantially, oil production, especially in non-traditional oil extraction fields will also be reduced. States doing well because of oil extraction will suffer.

Why does she hate North Dakota?

479 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:02:46am

re: #475 Kragar

Damn, Bryan’s got us again. He has us all figured out. //

480 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:02:54am

re: #467 Dr. Matt

FYI. The vile turd’s twitter account (i.e., @Todd__Kincannon) has been suspended yet again.

Cue the brain-dead cries of “Todd Kincannon has been taken back to the Twitter Gulag!!1”.

/groan

481 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:03:56am

re: #478 b_sharp

The US is producing more oil now than before Obama.

To drop gas prices, oil prices would need to be reduced. If oil prices reduce substantially, oil production, especially in non-traditional oil extraction fields will also be reduced. States doing well because of oil extraction will suffer.

Why does she hate North Dakota?

Most of these morons who think that “Moar drilling = lower prices” have spent years being sold that bullshit by the people who profit the most from the “moar drilling.” Reality is that so many of the wells that came online in recent years did so because the high price of oil made pumping them profitable. If you lower the price of oil, then those wells get shut down and capped until the price goes up and they become profitable again.

482 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:04:58am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Cue the brain-dead cries of “Todd Kincannon has been taken back to the Twitter Gulag!!1”.

/groan

THE DEFENSE NETWORK! IT DOES NOTHING!

483 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:05:22am

re: #402 piratedan

she puts the “r” in stupid…..

I see what you did there! Good job. Subtle.

484 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:06:11am
485 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:06:37am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Cue the brain-dead cries of “Todd Kincannon has been taken back to the Twitter Gulag!!1”.

/groan

He’ll keep coming back; there is always room for more underscores in his name:

@Todd____________________________________________________Kincannon

486 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:06:42am

re: #337 Chrysicat

True enough, but unless it gets NATO troops on the ground before the Russian tanks enter to claim the republic by right of conquest, it’s still no help to anything other than rebuilding Imperial Russia…

I’m betting Putin has already tried on the Imperial Crown for size.

487 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:07:28am

re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord

Hobby Lobby threatens to close its stores and put its employees out of work to make an anti-contraception statement. teapartycrusaders.com …

That’ll show us!!!

488 Mattand  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:08:02am

re: #482 Kragar

THE DEFENSE NETWORK! IT DOES NOTHING!

Yeah, wasn’t the whole point of #tgdn was that it was some magic inoculation against getting suspended?

489 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:08:13am

Has that bastard who shot his new neighbors in W. Virginia been strung up yet?

No?

I guess the freak should be glad not everyone adheres to the frontier justice standard he was so eager to apply himself.

(edit-consistency)

490 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:08:13am

re: #481 Targetpractice

Most of these morons who think that “Moar drilling = lower prices” have spent years being sold that bullshit by the people who profit the most from the “moar drilling.” Reality is that so many of the wells that came online in recent years did so because the high price of oil made pumping them profitable. If you lower the price of oil, then those wells get shut down and capped until the price goes up and they become profitable again.

Same as I say about the Keystone pipeline. Prices being high is the only reason that it would be profitable. The energy companies are not going let the price go down and make their investment in the pipeline unprofitable. Business doesn’t work that way.

491 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:09:20am

re: #355 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURRR!!!!! THAT MY STORY & I’M STICKING TO IT!!!11!!

[Embedded content]

Ah, classic TP strategy. Move the goalposts.

492 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:09:30am

re: #488 Mattand

Yeah, wasn’t the whole point of #tgdn was that it was some magic inoculation against getting suspended?

According to Todd it was.

493 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:10:29am


Dina Van Der Zalm, a student at the University of Missouri who’s getting her masters in social work, told last week’s House panel that she planned to delay her testimony against the bill for 72 hours. She explained that she didn’t actually need the extra time to make up her mind, but she hoped her lawmakers would take her more seriously after she adhered to their suggested waiting period.

“Since this bill…makes the assumption that women are not capable of making difficult decisions without the aid of politicians requiring an additional three days to think it through, then I can only assume that you’re not going to legitimately listen or value the opinions that I would like to state today,” Van Der Zalm said in her testimony. “Therefore, I’d like to take your recommended waiting period and return on Monday, when I’ve had time to really think through my decisions…I would like for you to be able to trust in my opinions.”

494 Mattand  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:10:39am

re: #487 ObserverArt

That’ll show us!!!

What’s really telling about HobbyLobby threatening to throw their employees out of work is that it’s no different than the Republicans taking the federal government hostage in October.

495 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:11:35am

re: #492 Kragara

According to Todd it was.

Yep, that’s right. Guess that choad just found out different.

496 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:12:35am

re: #490 Eventual Carrion

Same as I say about the Keystone pipeline. Prices being high is the only reason that it would be profitable. The energy companies are not going let the price go down and make their investment in the pipeline unprofitable. Business doesn’t work that way.

It’s why oil shale become popular in the last decade like it did during the late-70/early-80s, because the price of a barrel of oil made the exploitation of the US deposits profitable. I remember telling more than one wingnut that, for a barrel of shale oil to be profitable, oil would have to stay above $140/bbl, but no they told me, the technology was there to make it profitable at $30/bbl.

Some people never learn.

497 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:12:47am

re: #489 Shiplord Kirel

Has that bastard who shot his new neighbors in W. Virginia been strung up yet?

No?

I guess maybe these freaks should be glad not everyone adheres to the frontier justice standard they love to apply themselves.

The criminal complaint has been released:

According to the criminal complaint, Black told detectives in his statement that he saw two men “shaking the door on his tool shed in his backyard.” He said he then “reached and got his .243 and loaded the gun and pointed the gun out of his window and the shot the first male and then pulled the bolt action back and fired another shot and hit the other male.”

Black also told deputies in his statement that the “did not warn them nor did he call 911 when saw them.”

He also advised that “no first aid was given after the incident.”

wsaz.com

498 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:14:25am
499 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:18:18am

re: #418 Pie-onist Overlord

BUT WHEN YOU COME BACK & YOU’RE ALL UNEMPLOYED & HOMELESS & NEED A JRRB OR FOOD THEN FUCK YOU.

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To ‘YoungConservative’: If military service is such an honourable thing to do, why aren’t you serving?

Oh, right. Risking your ass for your country is for fools, and your ass is too valuable to waste. Asshole.

500 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:18:42am

re: #494 Mattand

What’s really telling about HobbyLobby threatening to throw their employees out of work is that it’s no different than the Republicans taking the federal government hostage in October.

Yes, but by gawd we have a point (on the top of our heads) to make.

By the way…it sure is a red meat day. Lots of whacky about. More so than usual. Makes me think ol’ Rand kicked it off yesterday by signalling an attack can be made against Hillary and all liberals by going after Big Bill.

Crazy is as crazy does.

501 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:18:49am

Happening right now in NYC…

502 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:22:05am

re: #496 Targetpractice

It’s why oil shale become popular in the last decade like it did during the late-70/early-80s, because the price of a barrel of oil made the exploitation of the US deposits profitable. I remember telling more than one wingnut that, for a barrel of shale oil to be profitable, oil would have to stay above $140/bbl, but no they told me, the technology was there to make it profitable at $30/bbl.

Some people never learn.

Might I suggest that some people just do not want to learn.

It either scares them, takes too much effort or it is easier going day to day with the preconceived notion. That is what FOX and now so many more “news” programming and web sites have been founded on and turned out to be quite lucrative. Sadly so.

503 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:22:15am

Hannity Doesn’t Want “Dirty Water” Except When He Does

The incident outraged many, but Hannity has instead focused his ire at those warning that Republican-backed deregulation would put people at risk of dirtier air and water. He has decried those saying these policies would lead to “dirtier air, dirtier water” 192 times*, calling the warnings “absurd and irresponsible scare tactics” and a vicious “lie.” In fact, Hannity has wholeheartedly supported allowing more coal and enforcing fewer regulations — a plan that could lead to more disasters like the one in West Virginia that he has ignored

504 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:22:43am

re: #482 Kragar

It’s the result of patriotic young conservatives on Twitter not using the TGDN hashtag enough. //

505 b.d.  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:22:46am

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

Happening right now in NYC…

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GRAMERCY PARK (WABC) — FDNY now says no explosion at 88 Lexington Avenue, but it’s possible a pipe burst caused the loud bang that prompted evacuations.

506 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:23:33am

re: #489 Shiplord Kirel

Has that bastard who shot his new neighbors in W. Virginia been strung up yet?

No?

I guess the freak should be glad not everyone adheres to the frontier justice standard he was so eager to apply himself.

(edit-consistency)

He’s just been charged with First-Degree Murder.

507 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:23:49am

re: #505 b.d.

GRAMERCY PARK (WABC) — FDNY now says no explosion at 88 Lexington Avenue, but it’s possible a pipe burst caused the loud bang that prompted evacuations.

This winter has been hell on pipes.
I’ve had lots of troubles.

508 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:24:13am

“Constitutionalist” on my FB timeline who constantly posts derp from Allen West and Heritage:

Government’s role should be limited to supporting infrastructure (building roads, financing police, fire, teachers, etc. and a few other small things.). Federal government should not even get into crime punishment…that should be handled locally, imo.

I cringe each time either the left or right want to pass laws telling people how to behave (You can’t smoke here; you can’t drink too much soda at a time; you can’t this; you can’t that.) Each of those is one person forcing others to act the way they want them to. It may be done under the guise of “what is best”, but even that is one person’s opinion. How often do we hear “Food X is bad for you”, only to find out 5-10 years later that it actually isn’t?

People should be allowed to make choices in what they want to do without fear of government intervention.

I’m in favor of limiting a person’s behavior only where it injures another person. Beyond that, they should be allowed the freedom to live as they want (and even remove themselves from the gene pool if they are that stupid). And yes, this also means to wildly succeed or to horribly fail in life.

And this isn’t some college aged kid going through a weed and Ayn Rand phase. This is a middle aged man that’s married with kids. WTF.

509 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:24:23am
510 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:25:19am

re: #505 b.d.

GRAMERCY PARK (WABC) — FDNY now says no explosion at 88 Lexington Avenue, but it’s possible a pipe burst caused the loud bang that prompted evacuations.

Even so, its good to see NYC’s emergency services are doing their customary first-rate job. Tax monies well spent.

/No sarc, none at all.

511 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:27:47am

re: #488 Mattand

Yeah, wasn’t the whole point of #tgdn was that it was some magic inoculation against getting suspended?

What does “tgdn” mean, exactly? Geez it’s hard to keep up with the hashderp.

512 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:27:57am

I’m in favor of limiting a person’s behavior where it injures another person only for abortion and slutty birth pills. Beyond that, all Christians like me they should be allowed the freedom to live as we they want

513 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:28:33am

re: #511 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What does “tgdn” mean, exactly? Geez it’s hard to keep up with the hashderp.

Twitter Gulag Defense Network.
/Not joking.

514 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:28:36am

re: #509 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Murdered to ‘send a message’ like the South in the Bad Old Days.

Youtube Video

515 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:30:06am

re: #513 Varek Raith

It seems the defense network’s sensors got hit by an AIM-88G ALARM.

516 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:32:58am

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

Deemed a blown tire. Wait. What?

517 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:34:58am

re: #513 Varek Raith

Twitter account suspended = Sent to a gulag

There is absolutely no sense of proportion with these people, is there?

518 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:35:33am

re: #510 Dark_Falcon

Even so, its good to see NYC’s emergency services are doing their customary first-rate job. Tax monies well spent.

/No sarc, none at all.

Now it looks like it was a tire on a delivery trolley. I could see where if it were a 3 piece rim on a truck that let go it could be viewed as an explosion (because that is one), but a hand truck tire? How does that even happen.

RBS
who is posting despite there being a new thread and this one will soon be as dead as the dodo.

519 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:37:57am

re: #467 Dr. Matt

FYI. The vile turd’s twitter account (i.e., @Todd__Kincannon) has been suspended yet again.

I blocked him yesterday.

IT WORKED!!!

520 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:39:11am

wow… much accurate… very weather…

521 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:43:14am

re: #470 Targetpractice

So what does the brain dead bint think would lower gas prices? “Drill baby drill”? Lower corporate taxes? Begging on hands and knees for the oil companies to charge less?

Eliminate gas taxes. That would eliminate or cripple highway maintenance funds. That would lead to the roads degrading and becoming impassible. With impassible roads, no one would drive anymore. Therefore less demand for gasoline and the price would then drop.
(ta da!)
////

(We deliberately ignore all the other side effects of this solution.)

522 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:47:16am

re: #518 RealityBasedSteve

Now it looks like it was a tire on a delivery trolley. I could see where if it were a 3 piece rim on a truck that let go it could be viewed as an explosion (because that is one), but a hand truck tire? How does that even happen.

RBS
who is posting despite there being a new thread and this one will soon be as dead as the dodo.

Dammit Jim..the thread’s dead!

523 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:49:01am

re: #520 makeitstop

wow… much accurate… very weather…

wow! That’s one of the counties adjacent to mine!
I love it!

524 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:56:14am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow! That’s one of the counties adjacent to mine!
I love it!

I got an adjacent county too. Next one north.

525 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:00:16am

re: #516 lawhawk

Deemed a blown tire. Wait. What?

I’ve been next to an 18 wheeler that blew a tire. Sounded like a shotgun blast.
Scared the hell out of everyone near it.

526 chadu  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:07:38am

re: #457 ObserverArt

And what the hell. I’ve been seeing more and more ‘nuts mentioning Ben Carson as a Presidential candidate leader type. Huh??? Just because he spouts all the stupid shit you want to here and he is a leader.

(whisper) I hear he’s also blah.

527 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:08:06am

re: #524 wrenchwench

I got an adjacent county too. Next one north.

I got a few towns west. Doge’s GPS is a little off, I think.


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