Tech Note: Greatly Enhanced Security for Signing In

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We have a great new security enhancement tonight; I’ve purchased and installed an SSL certificate, so that we can use secure HTTPS connections for signing in and other stuff that needs to be protected. As of tonight, when you sign in at LGF your password is now encrypted while it’s being transferred over the Internet, with the same type of end-to-end encryption used by banks and other secure sites.

This also fixes another problem I discovered today, with the LGF Pages posting window. If you were at a site that used HTTPS, the window would just hang up at the “Loading…” screen in Chrome and Firefox (oddly, it worked fine in Safari), because it was trying to load data from an insecure URL while at a secure page. No problem now!

Note that since HTTPS connections tend to be slower than normal HTTP connections (because of the overhead involved in encryption/decryption), for now most of the site will continue to run in non-SSL mode so it can be as fast as usual. That means you won’t see the padlock icon in your address bar when you’re browsing through LGF, but all the sensitive data is still being transferred securely.

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476 comments
1 freetoken  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:23:47pm

So… now what is the NSA is supposed to do?

2 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:24:32pm

re: #1 freetoken

So… now what is the NSA is supposed to do?

Pray.

oops, sorry.


Prey.

3 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:24:36pm

re: #1 freetoken

So… now what is the NSA is supposed to do?

Watch people play Angry Birds, of course.

4 klys  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:25:15pm

I do love that government is the most incompetent thing ever unless it is somehow so scarily competent that it’s watching EVERYTHING EVER.

5 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:26:04pm

With all the crazy hacking going on these days, it was time to do this.

6 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:26:45pm

I had a problem getting to this website. Safari said that this website was overloaded and it could not connect me. I can through the Wikipedia web link. I just tried entering the name without the 3 w’s first and that worked.

7 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:26:57pm

So, no retinal scans?

8 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:27:24pm

And Done, Maybe the first Https Page is UP.
The No Fly list is punishment without due process or trial.

littlegreenfootballs.com

9 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:30:53pm

re: #7 GeneJockey

So, no retinal scans?

That’s where I’m drawing the line! I’m not bending over just to be able to make a post.

RBS

10 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:33:36pm

re: #9 RealityBasedSteve

Or, you could just pick up the retina reader…

//

11 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:34:30pm

re: #7 GeneJockey

So, no retinal scans?

No, we felt that DNA scanners were enough.

12 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:35:12pm

Mental health break from all the stupid. This is a very sweet story:

13 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:36:01pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

More security is more confidence. Who would use a safe that everyone knows how to crack? After reading what Google and Microsoft are doing to encrypt the cloud data through and through I think encryption of traffic will become the norm. We’ll just have to invest more processing power to accommodate it. Which is fine with me. A net people have confidence in for security is a better ‘net for the economy.

14 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:37:08pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

No, we felt that DNA scanners were enough.

I was thinking about the new fingerprint lock on the iPhones, and wondered if this would lead to a new wave of thefts of phones and the fingers to go with them.

15 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:37:55pm

Repost from dead thread downstairs:

re: #301 Targetpractice

The barrier’s sort of wibbley-wobbley, at least in the sense that characters from one production will show up in another for one-off episodes, but one really couldn’t call them crossovers in the sense that there’s a conjoined storyline. A sense of “What happens on your side of the pond stays on your side of the pond.”

Literally, if TW ever gets revived, considering that they’re probably still less-than-willing to go back to the UK and Rex’s connections with the US gov might be more useful… :-P

16 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:38:53pm

Got a good deal on the SSL certificate by going through Hosting Matters, too. Always nice to pay less than you think you’re gonna pay.

17 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:45:39pm

Here is Tom Perkins suggestion on How We Can Stop The Persecution Of The 1%:

I think that the solution is less interference, lower taxes, let the rich do what the rich do, which is get richer.

BREAK OUT THE GUILLOTINES!!!!!!!

18 b.d.  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:47:10pm

Can I stay logged in at two computers at once now? Logging in at work computer then finding out I’m logged out at home computer gets wearisome and builds a popup rage.

19 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:48:27pm

re: #17 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is Tom Perkins suggestion on How We Can Stop The Persecution Of The 1%:

BREAK OUT THE GUILLOTINES!!!!!!!

No need. Just tax rates, wage rate ratios, a living minimum wage & union membership rates the same as they were in Ike’s administration will do far more for the nation.

20 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:48:38pm

The fact that Safari let the LGF Pages bookmarklet run even when it was crossing HTTP/HTTPS protocols was nagging at me, so I investigated some more, and discovered that Safari writes an error message about content being accessed insecurely to the console — but still allows the content to be accessed. Both Chrome and Firefox block cross-protocol access, and also write an error message to the console.

21 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:49:15pm

re: #17 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is Tom Perkins suggestion on How We Can Stop The Persecution Of The 1%:

BREAK OUT THE GUILLOTINES!!!!!!!

Wait - seriously?

Okay, VC’s serve a valuable purpose in our economy, but it’s not like they’re the ones who HAVE the ideas, nor are they the ones who make the ideas work, nor do they make them into products.

22 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:52:00pm

re: #19 William Barnett-Lewis

No need. Just tax rates, wage rate ratios, a living minimum wage & union membership rates the same as they were in Ike’s administration will do far more for the nation.

Without a wealth tax, I’m not sure that would do anything but guarantee that the current 1% of 1% (but not the ‘basic’ 1%, whose wealth would no longer be enough to multiply on its own with a punitive cap-gains rate) would stay there forever, and no one could ever rise out of the lower ranks on the basis of income again…

23 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:52:17pm

re: #17 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is Tom Perkins suggestion on How We Can Stop The Persecution Of The 1%:

BREAK OUT THE GUILLOTINES!!!!!!!

So Perkins’ solution to the plight of the rich is basically to allow the rich to further fuck us over with as little interference as possible? Yeah, let’s look at how well that worked in the last decade.

24 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:52:27pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I just hit the create page button and the title was filled in with the title of this thread. I had to go out of this thread to get a blank page.

25 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:54:23pm

re: #18 b.d.

Er, no, sorry. I actually wrote the code to not allow that, because of the security implications with allowing more than one simultaneous login. But looking into this to see if there’s a better way is on the to-do list.

26 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:56:17pm

WTFITS

27 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:56:34pm

Whoa. Sorry for OT but Palladia has Paul Rogers onstage with Joe Bonamassa. Palladia is one heck of a cable channel.

28 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:57:20pm

re: #26 Pie-onist Overlord

You’re confusing him with the facts, so he’s filibustering.

29 klys  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:57:25pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Er, no, sorry. I actually wrote the code to not allow that, because of the security implications with allowing more than one simultaneous login. But looking into this to see if there’s a better way is on the to-do list.

I will second a vote for that at some point, because I tend to use multiple computers throughout the day. I currently try to make it a point to stick to reading LGF on one (the desktop), but it would be nice to be able to bounce between them (like when I take the laptop into the other room).

30 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:57:28pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

So Perkins’ solution to the plight of the rich is basically to allow the rich to further fuck us over with as little interference as possible? Yeah, let’s look at how well that worked in the last decade.

It has worked very well for the only people that count —- the ultra-wealthy.

///

31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 5:58:45pm

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

I just hit the create page button and the title was filled in with the title of this thread.

Yes… that may seem confusing, I guess, but the idea is that when you open the Create a Page bookmarklet, you’re expecting to post something about the page that’s currently in your window — and that’s the LGF page you’re looking at when you click that button.

I considered just putting up a blank form in that case, but then what if you actually wanted to post something about the LGF page currently in your window?

So that’s why it works the way it does.

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:01:39pm

re: #28 jaunte

You’re confusing him with the facts, so he’s filibustering.

I was going to ask which EO overrides the 2A, but I blocked him instead.

34 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:01:46pm

P. S. But if you click the Create a Page button while you’re on the LGF home page, THEN you get a blank window — because you’re not at a specific page you might want to post about.

35 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:03:09pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

So Perkins’ solution to the plight of the rich is basically to allow the rich to further fuck us over with as little interference as possible? Yeah, let’s look at how well that worked in the last decade.

Worked fine for him.

36 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:03:12pm

re: #32 Varek Raith

VA GOPer Compares AG’s Refusal To Defend Gay Marriage Ban To Dred Scott Decision
Freaking Bob Marshall.

One of the commenters on that article does a nice job:

“Let’s play republican dipshit bingo. The first old white male to somehow connect slaves, sluts, and nazis in the same simile wins!”

37 b.d.  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:03:24pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

OK, I am satisfied with that just because you didn’t point out some basic boneheaded thing that I was doing wrong all this time.

38 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:04:13pm

re: #21 GeneJockey

Wait - seriously?

Okay, VC’s serve a valuable purpose in our economy, but it’s not like they’re the ones who HAVE the ideas, nor are they the ones who make the ideas work, nor do they make them into products.

Kind of interesting to watch the video. The dude has a point (sort of) but he continues to make it poorly. He’s not the enemy that some people make him out to be, he’s friendly with Dem and even plans to vote for them. He needs to drop the “job creator” meme, it’s too identifiable as a talking point. I happen to agree with his larger criticism of populism and scapegoating even though he continues to make it poorly.

39 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:05:46pm

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!!

40 nines09  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:05:48pm

re: #17 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is Tom Perkins suggestion on How We Can Stop The Persecution Of The 1%:

BREAK OUT THE GUILLOTINES!!!!!!!

I never thought being blindingly rich was such a burden. I feel so sorry for their self doubt surrounded by any and everything they could possibly want or need. Did some one speak ill of thee, oh supremely comfortable one? Do you fear there may be some who think your gains not all gotten fairly? Do you go to a football game and when they go into the huddle, know that they are talking about you? Such a heavy load you carry. And to throw words about so loosely, to sully history to plead your warped sense of righteousness is purely a sign that no amount of money could buy you class. Choke on it jerkoff. I care less for you than a sewer rat.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:06:24pm

HURR HURR!!!111!!! JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!!!1!!!!

42 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:08:28pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Kind of interesting to watch the video. The dude has a point (sort of) but he continues to make it poorly. He’s not the enemy that some people make him out to be, he’s friendly with Dem and even plans to vote for them. He needs to drop the “job creator” meme, it’s too identifiable as a talking point. I happen to agree with his larger criticism of populism and scapegoating even though he continues to make it poorly.

Yeah, comparing things to the Holocaust is merely ‘wording things poorly’.
Also, he’s pretty much full of shit.

43 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:09:23pm

re: #42 Varek Raith

Yeah, comparing things to the Holocaust is merely ‘wording things poorly’.
Also, he’s pretty much full of shit.

He’s very difficult to like.

44 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:09:23pm

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:10:36pm

re: #37 b.d.

OK, I am satisfied with that just because you didn’t point out some basic boneheaded thing that I was doing wrong all this time.

It’s a tricky issue - if you allow simultaneous logins from more than one computer you need to make sure it’s really the same user and not a hacker. That’s why some banks and other sites are now making you confirm that it’s really you when you try to sign in without signing out at another location, using an alternate authentication method like a phone call or text message.

46 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:11:01pm

re: #40 nines09

I never thought being blindingly rich was such a burden. I feel so sorry for their self doubt surrounded by any and everything they could possibly want or need. Did some one speak ill of thee, oh supremely comfortable one? Do you fear there may be some who think your gains not all gotten fairly? Do you go to a football game and when they go into the huddle, know that they are talking about you? Such a heavy load you carry. And to throw words about so loosely, to sully history to plead your warped sense of righteousness is purely a sign that no amount of money could buy you class. Choke on it jerkoff. I care less for you than a sewer rat.

The ultra-wealthy in the US have a warped perspective because they really were basically worshipped by just about all segments of society for several decades before the financial crash of 2008.

47 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:11:51pm


48 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:16:19pm

P. S. If you Google “simultaneous logins” you’ll see some links that show why I’m very cautious about this.

49 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:17:00pm

re: #47 Lidane

From the linked article:

Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform, said the traffic scandal “raises questions about how inevitable Christie is. People who might have committed to him early may decide to delay, and you will see Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal and Rand Paul start to show people that they are at Christie’s level.”

That’s a gaggle of fools that’s probably even worse than the dreadful GOP primary candidates in 2012. In order, we have a thug, a nitwit, a snake-handler, and a libertarian (TM).

50 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:17:42pm

I spotted this in South Beach the other day.

51 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:17:59pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

From the linked article:

That’s a gaggle of fools that’s probably even worse than the dreadful GOP primary candidates in 2012. In order, we have a thug, a nitwit, a snake-handler, and a libertarian (TM).

All of whom are even less appealing to indie voters than Christie is.

52 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:18:24pm

re: #50 Amory Blaine

I spotted this in South Beach the other day.[Embedded image]

It’s such a wonderful scam.
/

53 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:18:29pm

IT’S COMPLETE BULLSHIT, ASSHATTERY AND SHENANIGANS

54 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:19:33pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

All of whom are even less appealing to indie voters than Christie is.

Right wing nut jobs do not admit the existence of independent voters. Instead, these people are regarded as future converts to the conservative cause.

55 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:20:07pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh for Pete’s sake.

56 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:20:28pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

How is any of that possible when demons don’t exist?

57 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:20:44pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

IT’S COMPLETE BULLSHIT, ASSHATTERY AND SHENANIGANS

[Embedded content]

Rofl.

58 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:21:10pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

IT’S COMPLETE BULLSHIT, ASSHATTERY AND SHENANIGANS

[Embedded content]

Bat Boy unavailable for comment.

59 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:21:24pm

I see NYDailyNews completely overwhelmed by Teh Clickbait. Way worse than HuffPo.

So glad I have AdBlock.

60 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:21:29pm

Yep, because if I’m a badass demon I’m gonna possess kids and moonwalk up walls.
Totally badass!

61 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:34pm

Pete walked backwards up a wall and on to the ceiling juggling.

62 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:36pm

I guess hell is that boring nowadays, eh?

63 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:51pm

Or so some say.

64 b.d.  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:22:55pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

IT’S COMPLETE BULLSHIT, ASSHATTERY AND SHENANIGANS

[Embedded content]

OK Bryan, time to outdo a demon if you can.

65 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:23:16pm

re: #56 Lidane

How is any of that possible when demons don’t exist?

Someone was paid to write that ‘news story’. Sad.

Even sadder is that this fairy tale is probably good for business.

66 b.d.  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:24:11pm

I guess that it is the doing it backwards part that is supposed to be impressive?

//

67 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:24:13pm

Who is “Pete” and why is everyone always concerned about his “sake?”

68 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:25:15pm

On a scale on 1 to 10 I give that display of demonic power a 0.

69 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:25:47pm

Ladies and gents — Exhibit A showing why David Dewhurst is still in Texas and Ted Cruz is a Senator:

70 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:26:53pm

HURR HURR!!!11!!!

71 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:27:14pm

If demonic possession isn’t real, how do you explain Bryan Fischer and Ted Cruz?

72 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:28:29pm

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!

[Embedded content]

Because Republicans wouldn’t pay to cover the State Department’s requests for additional security funds.

73 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:28:53pm

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

Ted Cruz is a sitting member of Congress. So he should know, better than anyone else on the face of the Earth in fact, that there have already been more Congressional hearings/investigations for Benghazi than there were for 9/11.

74 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:29:33pm
75 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:30:00pm

This evening’s dessert. Lava cake.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:30:32pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

Ted Cruz is a sitting member of Congress. So he should know, better than anyone else on the face of the Earth in fact, that there have already been more Congressional hearings/investigations for Benghazi than there were for 9/11.

HURR HURR!!!11!! 9/11 IS BENGHAZI!!!11!!

77 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:31:22pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

Ted Cruz is a sitting member of Congress. So he should know, better than anyone else on the face of the Earth in fact, that there have already been more Congressional hearings/investigations for Benghazi than there were for 9/11.

There were hearings into BENGHAZI!!! within weeks of it happening. The only hearing into 9/11 took a year of requests from Congressional Democrats and pleas from families to happen and members of the administration refused to testify under oath.

78 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:32:10pm

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe Cruz should meet up with that Issa guy and exchange notes.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:33:14pm

re: #78 jaunte

Maybe Cruz should meet up with that Issa guy and exchange notes.

Speaking of Grand Theft Issa:

81 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:35:10pm

Hehe.

82 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:36:13pm

re: #80 Pie-onist Overlord

Speaking of Grand Theft Issa:

[Embedded content]

Darrel Issa, looking out for the needs of vulture capitalists? Shocker!

///

83 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:37:34pm

Tell me again that there’s no Republican War on Women:

84 Whack-A-Mole  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:37:50pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

You know, if I was a demon fresh from Hell and looking to cause pain and misery and suffering, I wouldn’t bother messing with the little kids. I’d just run for office as a Republican. Much more effective.

///

85 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:38:00pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

Darrel Issa, looking out for the needs of vulture capitalists? Shocker!

///

If Issa were to adapt the final phrase from the Gettysburg address:

that government of the filthy rich, by the filthy rich, for the filthy rich, shall not perish from the earth.

86 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:39:00pm

re: #84 Whack-A-Mole

You know, if I was a demon fresh from Hell and looking to cause pain and misery and suffering, I wouldn’t bother messing with the little kids. I’d just run for office as a Republican. Much more effective.

///

Surely only half a / at most….

87 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:40:07pm

re: #83 Lidane

Tell me again that there’s no Republican War on Women:

[Embedded content]

It’s a “gift from God, “dontchaknow? God sent that rapist to do his will.

/Am I the only one that can taste the bile?

88 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:41:29pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

It’s a “gift from God, “dontchaknow? God sent that rapist to do his will.

/Am I the only one that can taste the bile?

All candidates for TX governor endorse rape as a reproductive strategy.

Charming. /////

Edited to note that this refers to all GOP TX governor candidates. Mea maxima culpa.

89 Belafon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:42:02pm

re: #81 Lidane

That’s what I tell everyone about those commercials: It’s not what they are saying, it’s who they got to say it.

90 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:43:01pm

WTFITS

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:44:04pm

HURR HURR!!!!! TEH JUICE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO OBSERVE HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY!!!!! ONLY TEH REAL VICTIMS LIKE TOM PERKINS & ED SNOWDEN!!!!!

92 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:44:33pm

re: #88 EPR-radar

All Republican candidates for TX governor endorse rape as a reproductive strategy.

Charming. /////

Edited for accuracy.

93 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:45:41pm

Max Blumenthal is fucking insane. He is the Dudebro Pam Geller.

94 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:47:12pm

If you honestly believe the problems facing society today are caused by “DEMONS”, please brick yourself away in a church somewhere. Soup will be provided.

95 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:48:24pm

re: #56 Lidane

How is any of that possible when demons don’t exist?

Long time since we’ve had a demonic possession thread. By coincidence, I’ve spent an hour chasing the RWNJ Operation American Spring rally for 16 May. Then I ran right into…could it be..??? SATAN!!

google.com

(Note: that’s a Google return on web traffic tying retired MG Paul Vallely, a leader of the 16 May rally to Old Nick. Be careful with some of the links—it’s serious derp.)

96 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:48:49pm

Texas Attorney General race to the bottom!

97 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:49:50pm

re: #96 jaunte

Dewhurst is the pinhead that makes Rick Perry look like a genius, IIRC.

98 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:49:58pm

re: #96 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Texas Attorney General race to the bottom!

While we’re at it, let’s teach them the merits of capitalism and communism and let them decide for themselves.

99 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:51:07pm

re: #96 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Texas Attorney General race to the bottom!

100 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:51:57pm

If my kid was walking on the ceiling I sure as hell would have a few videos on one of the many cameras most of us possess.

101 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:53:14pm
102 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:53:47pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

If my kid was walking on the ceiling I sure as hell would have a few videos on one of the many cameras most of us possess.

Witness testimony with no evidence to back it up is the most convincing of all!!

103 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:55:13pm
104 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:55:46pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

If my kid was walking on the ceiling I sure as hell would have a few videos on one of the many cameras most of us possess.

Pffftt, “Walking”. Try dancing.

Youtube Video

105 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:57:29pm

re: #103 jaunte

All 4 GOP TX Lt. Governor candidates are willfully ignorant misogynists.

I’d call them cavemen, but that would be an insult to cavemen.

106 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:58:18pm

re: #96 jaunte

SCIENCE DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY YOU TOOL. It’s not like deciding that you like Chinese food instead of Mexican or Thai.

God, the Texas GOP pisses me off. They’re determined to make people dumber.

107 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:58:19pm
108 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 6:59:01pm

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For everyone: At the same link, check out their free SSL Client Test.

Another great site for their free client-side security check is howsmyssl.com

For better understanding of the issues, and especially why IE remains Man-In-The-Middle -friendly, go here:
grc.com

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:00:47pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Pffftt, “Walking”. Try dancing.

[Embedded content]

Like this one better:
Youtube Video

110 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:01:31pm

re: #106 Lidane

SCIENCE DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY YOU TOOL. It’s not like deciding that you like Chinese food instead of Mexican or Thai.

God, the Texas GOP pisses me off. They’re determined to make people dumber.

Most GOPers want to make people dumber. Fostering stupidity among voters is just about the only strategy they use that can still work well enough to be a threat.

111 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:01:46pm

re: #96 jaunte

112 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:02:06pm

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

Like this one better:
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Went with the disco—want to look hep.

113 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:04:10pm
114 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:04:31pm

Brilliant legal minds.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:05:21pm

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Went with the disco—want to look hep.

70’s and 80’s: WORST FASHION DECADES EVER.

116 EPR-radar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:05:35pm

re: #111 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There are six items on that list. Right wing revisionists are already playing a ‘both sides’ game for three of them (evolution, civil war, American slavery).

The Holocaust will probably start getting the revisionist history treatment from the US right in a few decades.

As no political advantage is apparent in telling lies about astrology and the Earth’s shape, these tops are probably safe from GOP meddling for the foreseeable future.

117 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:07:08pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

While we’re at it, let’s teach them the merits of capitalism and communism and let them decide for themselves.

Let them decide for themselves whether to attend school. Or church for that matter.
//

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:08:17pm

Let’s teach about mental illness and demonic possession!

119 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:09:10pm

re: #117 Feline Fearless Leader

Let them decide for themselves whether to attend school. Or church for that matter.
//

“No one is born Christian. The Christian lifestyle depends on active recruitment into its ranks. Christian activists make it a point to focus on the most vulnerable members of society, such as children and victims of abuse.”

120 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:14:07pm

You know, a movie where Ernest Borgnine plays an evil Amish guy is much better in the promise than in the execution.

121 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:16:24pm

re: #108 abolitionist

Charles: I logged out and back in to check out new features. I assume you are aware of the free site-rating services offered by Qualys SSL Labs: ssllabs.com

For everyone: At the same link, check out their free SSL Client Test.

Another great site for their free client-side security check is howsmyssl.com

For better understanding of the issues, and especially why IE remains Man-In-The-Middle -friendly, go here:
grc.com

As I tried to explain above, the entire site is currently NOT going through SSL, only some backend services that require security. So howsmyssl.com isn’t really going to show much useful information for the littlegreenfootballs.com domain.

122 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:18:53pm

What the fuck is wrong with google???
Search is all fubared.

123 zora  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:20:06pm

re: #93 Pie-onist Overlord

he’s the uncle ruckus of the jews (see boondocks)

124 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:20:51pm

Speaking of security, Wired seems to have a case of the vapors over a situation where mailboxes allegedly got swept up in a child porn investigation:

I’m sure Tommy Lee Jones & Will Smith will be knocking on people’s doors any day now, then zapping them with their memory erasers when they’re done… //

125 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:21:43pm
126 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:21:50pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

As I tried to explain above, the entire site is currently NOT going through SSL, only some backend services that require security. So that site isn’t really going to show much useful information.

No criticism intended. A+ for effort. Even some of my banking sites are still mixed content. I also wanted to convey to others that effective security depends on things on the client side, too.

127 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:23:26pm

re: #125 Gus

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GAH! Wish it into the cornfield!!

128 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:28:15pm

re: #127 Targetpractice

GAH! Wish it into the cornfield!!

129 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:29:03pm

Geez Gus!

130 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:29:51pm

re: #129 Varek Raith

Geez Gus!

I’m here to help. //

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:30:15pm

Goodnight!

132 Belafon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:30:45pm

re: #130 Gus

He looks like a hairbander from Whoville.

133 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:31:40pm

He has a Joe Dirte’ charm.

134 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:32:10pm

re: #132 Belafon

And here I thought he looked like Joe Dirt… :-P

135 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:34:37pm

136 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:35:12pm

How many fingers was I holding up?

137 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:36:04pm

See the trails man?!!?

138 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:36:48pm

re: #135 jaunte

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“There are four lights!”

139 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:37:30pm

It seems we had a troll get clubbed earlier today. I’ve put the troll out on my balcony to keep it frozen. No grilling tonight, as its just plain too cold in Chicagoland (-7F now and going down).

140 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:37:34pm
141 Whack-A-Mole  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:40:05pm

OT, a quick question for the many photographers on LGF:

Is Canon’s Rebel T3 a good choice to start with? Is it good value for the money: $449 with the EF-S 18-55mm kit lens and a (non-stabilized) 75-300mm lens?

If no, any other recommendations for a low cost, entry-level DSLR that will leave me room to grow?

142 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:44:44pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! TEH JUICE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO OBSERVE HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY!!!!! ONLY TEH REAL VICTIMS LIKE TOM PERKINS & ED SNOWDEN!!!!!

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143 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:46:18pm

re: #142 NJDhockeyfan

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Just a note but. Max Blumenthal is indeed trash but so is the JDL.

144 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:48:48pm

re: #143 Gus

Just a note but. Max Blumenthal is indeed trash but so is the JDL.

Cat fight!

145 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:49:24pm

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

Cat fight!

Pretty much.

146 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:54:34pm
147 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:55:19pm

re: #141 Whack-A-Mole

OT, a quick question for the many photographers on
Is Canon’s Rebel T3 a good choice to start with? Is it good value for the money: $449 with the EF-S 18-55mm kit lens and a (non-stabilized) 75-300mm lens?

If no, any other recommendations for a low cost, entry-level DSLR that will leave me room to grow?

Do you really want a DSLR or would a better mirrorless camera do the trick? I’m very much on the Micro 4/3 bandwagon - smaller cameras, exquisite IQ, great native glass and the ability to use every kind of legacy glass you can imagine.

If you don’t already have a huge investment in Canon EOS glass, then I’d strongly suggest this: amazon.com

or this:

amazon.com

I personally prefer a view finder - so I added this to my E-PL1: amazon.com

148 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:57:51pm

So. This happened.

149 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:58:06pm

I guess Rachael Maddow had another big Koch brothers scoop tonight.
Rachel Maddow Just Caught Koch Bros. in Cover-Up Size LIE

But Rachel has found another group called the Institute for Humane Studies, which offers the “Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program”, which generously bankrolls interns’ employment at companies or groups of their choosing. And one of the groups they send “Koch Fellows” to is…the Foundation for Government Accountability.

Busted!

Here’s the Wikipage for Institute for Humane Studies

The institute is governed by a board of directors, currently chaired by Charles G. Koch.[34] The other members of the board of directors are John Blundell, Richard H. Fink, Jerome Fullinwider, Timothy Otis Browne, Tyler Cowen, Art Pope, David Humphreys, Eric O’Keefe, Todd Zywicki, William Sumner, Kristina Kendall, and Craig Johnson.[35]

IHS has received funding from a number of foundations, including the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Koch Family Foundations, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.[4][36]

Perhaps the evil Koch bros forgot to scrub the wikipage because they were preoccupied with world domination or something.

150 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:59:02pm

re: #148 Gus

So. This happened.

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But…but they promised they’d never do anything that might put someone’s life in danger!!!

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151 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 7:59:13pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Would you even pretend you care about this if anyone else reported it?

152 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:00:04pm

re: #148 Gus

So. This happened.

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really?

As soon as the article was posted, someone from or associated with a popular cryptography website claims to have downloaded a pdf of the Snowden document from The New York Times and discovered that three of the redactions that were intended to obscure sensitive national security information were easily accessible by highlighting, copying and pasting the text.

Idiots.

153 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:02:25pm

re: #151 William Barnett-Lewis

Would you even pretend you care about this if anyone else reported it?

Probably not. Her last celebrated Koch scoop was really seriously flawed and her audience cheered her for not correcting the factual errors. Not surprising she’s continuing. But at least this time Wikipedia confirms her big scoop which seems to be not much of a secret.

154 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:03:31pm

For the past week my 11 yo daughter’s been playing with my translator app on my iPhone. Yesterday she wanted me to pay the 1.99 so she could hear it speak what she was typing and what was translated. Since my grandfather is from Denmark she decided she wants to learn Danish so she’s been spend all her spare time learning Danish from a simple app on my phone.

155 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:04:52pm

Also.

156 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:05:12pm
The exposed, poorly-redacted information included the following:

-A very specific and very dangerous group that’s been targeted by NSA using a free application known as Visual Communicator.

I wonder who the target was.

157 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:06:25pm

I just bought a Sony RX100 ii and it takes great photos and has many options.

158 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:06:59pm

re: #154 NJDhockeyfan

For the past week my 11 yo daughter’s been playing with my translator app on my iPhone. Yesterday she wanted me to pay the 1.99 so she could hear it speak what she was typing and what was translated. Since my grandfather is from Denmark she decided she wants to learn Danish so she’s been spend all her spare time learning Danish from a simple app on my phone.

Cool!. Another great way to learn a language is radio or tv. Maybe some Danish tv on youtube or a streaming radio station. She’ll learn really quickly.

159 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:07:45pm

re: #155 Gus

Also.

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Until today I thought Macklemoore was character from the Harry Potter movies.

160 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:09:00pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Until today I thought Macklemoore was character from the Harry Potter movies.

I didn’t know who he was until last night. Still haven’t bothered listening to his music.

161 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:09:59pm

re: #141 Whack-A-Mole

OT, a quick question for the many photographers on LGF:

Is Canon’s Rebel T3 a good choice to start with? Is it good value for the money: $449 with the EF-S 18-55mm kit lens and a (non-stabilized) 75-300mm lens?

If no, any other recommendations for a low cost, entry-level DSLR that will leave me room to grow?

I did that hunt last July or so and ended up with a Nikon D3200.

Picked up the basics pretty quick on a vacation, and there is still a lot of specialty options I can play with available. If you click my nick and visit the Photobucket link there the California and North Carolina pictures there were generally taken with that camera.

162 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:15:48pm

re: #14 GeneJockey

I was thinking about the new fingerprint lock on the iPhones, and wondered if this would lead to a new wave of thefts of phones and the fingers to go with them.

You don’t have to set it up to scan a finger… ;)

163 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:16:52pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Until today I thought Macklemoore was character from the Harry Potter movies.

She learned about 3 sentences yesterday and called my aunt to say it on the phone to her. She is brilliant…straight As, green belt in karate, learns anything that interests her at lightening speed. She certainly doesn’t get her brains from my side of the family.

164 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:17:02pm

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

That would be awkward in the line at the grocery store…

165 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:19:02pm

re: #163 NJDhockeyfan

To be fair, her dad is smart enough to encourage intellectual growth.

166 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:20:25pm

re: #163 NJDhockeyfan

She learned about 3 sentences yesterday and called my aunt to say it on the phone to her. She is brilliant…straight As, green belt in karate, learns anything that interests her at lightening speed. She certainly doesn’t get her brains from my side of the family.

She sounds like a really nice mutant.
;)

167 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:20:39pm
168 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:22:24pm

re: #167 Gus

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Bring back the four humors! Teach the Ptolemaic model! Tell kids about the four elements! TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

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169 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:22:40pm

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

You don’t have to set it up to scan a finger… ;)

Ummmm…I really think I should be going ‘eeeeew’ now…:-

170 Whack-A-Mole  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:24:06pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

re: #161 Feline Fearless Leader

Thanks for the input! Not sure what I’ll end up going with, but I definitely appreciate the advice.

171 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:24:22pm

Here’s the Maddow segment. I’m still watching but she shows a screenshot of the politifact debunking of her previous Koch story for a quote but doesn’t mention politifact’s ruling on the story.
msnbc.com

172 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:24:26pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Bring back the four humors! Teach the Ptolemaic model! Tell kids about the four elements! TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

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Do giant wolves attempt to swallow the celestial bodies during eclipses?

I’m not sure, but we should probably fund a weapon system to deal with them, just in case.

173 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:25:48pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Bring back the four humors! Teach the Ptolemaic model! Tell kids about the four elements! TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

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We need to get away from being politically correct!

174 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:26:41pm

Yikes. These men are scary. Ironically Dewhurst had the most mild response.

175 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:29:24pm

re: #165 Amory Blaine

To be fair, her dad is smart enough to encourage intellectual growth.

I’m all about them watching anything on the science channel, shows like brain games and how its made are a favorite of theirs, and lots of book reading. Both of them are smart well behaved kids. We are blessed.

176 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:29:57pm

re: #174 Gus

Pfft. What a hayseed.

177 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:31:39pm

re: #174 Gus

Dan Patrick will not let us turn our backs on God.

178 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:34:39pm
179 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:35:08pm

heh, she does mention briefly that Comcast (MSNBC’s parent company) also contributes to the State Policy network. Here’s her big scoop: The Institute for Humanities has as Koch funded program that sends unpaid college student interns to the State Policy Network. All the info is already available on Wikipedia and the groups webpages, none of this is secret. College students fetching coffee is hardly a giant conspiracy to dominate American politics.
I am interested in how money influences politics and I’m certainly no fan of the Koch bros but this is just silliness.

180 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:35:53pm
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creationism taught in textbooks has been a flashpoint
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recently in establishing a state educational curriculum where do you
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stand on the issue
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and lieutenant governor to hers were gonna start with you ninety seconds
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where this has been a
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controversial subject over the years I happen to believe
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in creationism and I believe
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that in fairness that we need to expose students
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to both sides of this and that’s why I’ve supported
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including in our textbooks the discussion
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the biblical sick the biblical killed love
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life and creation and I understand their lot of people that disagree with me
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and the believe in in evolution
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but I think it’s a fair discussion to be will expose both sides
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to our students and let them make their decision with the advice and counsel
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their parents
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okay senator Patrick your response
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open as you know it’s another Christian first conservative second and a
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republican
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third so obviously you know where I stay on this issue our students
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our children our grandchildren must really be confused we asked to go to
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sunday school on Sunday we asked to attend church
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and then they going to school the next day until we can talk about God
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the breakup all the family is has
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impacted this nation and I believe the break up with the family in this country
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start we’ve taken got out of the classroom I believe it with all my heart
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this nation was founded on the Christian
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Christian Judeo ethic and we need to stay and
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for what this nation was founded upon and that’s the word of God be tolerant
1:38
of all face be tolerant
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those who don’t agree with this but don’t back down step back and say I’m
1:43
sorry to be
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politically correct we don’t want to offend you we need to teach
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all pass in our school including
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the word up got the word the Bible as well as those who believe in evolution
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I’m sick and tired Ave minority
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about people in our state in our country who wants to turn our back on God as
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lieutenant governor I’m not going to do that and Commissioner Patterson your
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response
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conversation recently with a schoolteacher
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and we were talking about this very subject I’m a comet that when I was
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going to public school
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we had the Pledge of Allegiance the Lord’s Prayer in by the way we had about
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thirty eight kids per class we got a really good education
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and she said well what about the separation the constitutional separation
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of church and state
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as it will show me where that’s in the constitution
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because it’s not in the Constitution what you’ll find in the first amendment
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says the Congress shall make no law regarding the practice in the state
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religion
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or words to that effect there is no prohibition there’s a prohibition on
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having a state religion
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so while those words are often mentioned as being in the constitution they’re not
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we need to move away from the politically correct posture that we find
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ourselves in all too often today
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we need to go back to those things that make this country great and I see
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nothing wrong with standing up at least for a moment of silence
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you know let those who wish to pray pray in their own face
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I see nothing wrong with a prayer before high school football game
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we have gotten so focused as a dancer
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about not offending somebody I have a constitutional right to be offended
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and so does everybody else okay Thank You Commission about I think mister
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stable 0
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well as a Christian creationism certainly should be taught we don’t need
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a
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approach our school system in a manner a political correctness
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we need a absolutely demanded our value systems or influence in our kids
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because the problem we have today is that our children are not sitting around
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a breakfast table before
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go to our public education system our teachers today are being asked not only
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to
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educate our kids but raise our kids and that is an unfortunate situation
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and we need to make certain when our curriculum in our lesson plans
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that we are are challenging our children for success
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talk a little bit about career readiness and college readiness
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one element 1 see that were missing in our education system today
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is citizenship readiness were failing to educate
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this generation about the principles bill this great nation
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we cannot abandon them all will be destined for the pathway
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other countries like Greece and Italy in Portugal and Spain or California we
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absolutely need to make certain that we’re challenging our students at every
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level
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and that we’re not worried about political correctness but we’re
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demanding success from each
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the public schools i Commission stable thank you very much
181 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:36:06pm

This picture looks like it came out of an old movie from the 40s.

183 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:37:30pm

re: #180 Gus

I think it’s a fair discussion to be will expose both sides
0:48
to our students

False dichotomy.

184 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:38:31pm

re: #180 Gus

Such pathetic pandering to a people who lap it up.

185 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:38:59pm

re: #106 Lidane

SCIENCE DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY YOU TOOL. It’s not like deciding that you like Chinese food instead of Mexican or Thai.

God, the Texas GOP pisses me off. They’re determined to make people dumber.

It’s the only way they’d keep their jobs.

186 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:39:39pm

re: #167 Gus

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How about more science in religious studies classes?

187 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:42:49pm
188 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:44:01pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

Greta Van Susteren Explodes at Fox News’ Contributor Erick Erickson: ‘He’s a Jerk’

She’s not wrong.

189 Chrysicat  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:44:38pm

re: #181 NJDhockeyfan

Well, if you can ignore the IFV in the back—that’s pretty obviously post-1990…

190 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:45:27pm

His public education has been boiled down to a “good education” because of the Pledge of Allegiance and the Lord’s Prayer. Good thing he doesn’t get to decide if he got a good education or not. The ignorance is on display.

191 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:45:52pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

A rarity in her case.

192 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:45:55pm
193 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:47:28pm

Demonic familiars!!!

194 klys  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:47:38pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

Do you really want a DSLR or would a better mirrorless camera do the trick? I’m very much on the Micro 4/3 bandwagon - smaller cameras, exquisite IQ, great native glass and the ability to use every kind of legacy glass you can imagine.

If you don’t already have a huge investment in Canon EOS glass, then I’d strongly suggest this: amazon.com

or this:

amazon.com

I personally prefer a view finder - so I added this to my E-PL1: amazon.com

I am making a note of these things for when I don’t want to haul the DSLR around.

195 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:50:06pm

One of the weirder aspects is that you have to be a creationist if you’re a Republican.

196 jaunte  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:51:21pm

re: #195 Gus

And ridicule the idea of ‘political correctness.’

197 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:52:39pm

re: #196 jaunte

And ridicule the idea of ‘political correctness.’

Radio carbon dating is nothing but political correctness gone outta control!

198 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:53:05pm
199 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:54:04pm

I’m afraid the patient is brain dead. Here, look at the brain scan. All black. That indicates brain death.

Oh that a lie. You’re just trying to be politically correct!

200 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:54:26pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

[snip]So that site isn’t really going to show much useful information.

I suspect the last item reported under Configuration / Protocols, may be worth your attention, sooner or later. Hint: ssl2

201 palomino  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:54:55pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

Greta Van Susteren Explodes at Fox News’ Contributor Erick Erickson: ‘He’s a Jerk’

She’ll have to stop saying such things when Fox News hires Erickson.

Which probably won’t be long, given how Jesus-y he imagines himself while doing his best Limbaugh impression to piss off liberals and other non-brain damaged Americans, especially women and minorities.

202 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:56:00pm

re: #194 klys

I am making a note of these things for when I don’t want to haul the DSLR around.

These are really nice cameras.

American do tend to have this “It’s big so it’s good” problem and m4/3 doesn’t do that well. But they have good IQ (exquisite out of camera JPG - I stopped bothering with RAW because the camera is better than I was). and the prices are very very very competitive.

I always preferred rangefinders to SLR’s in the film world & these are much like that. You may or may not like the way they work but if you do there isn’t anything better on the market these days - IMO and all that.

203 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 8:59:27pm

re: #198 NJDhockeyfan

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204 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:02:04pm

Results for from:CalFireNews inside job

205 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:03:23pm

That CalFireNews guy is kind of a nutter. He was linking to Rense for Fukushima news several weeks ago.

206 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:03:56pm

Nice map. This is the translation of this blog page…

Map Maidan

Excuse me, but I again about Kiev. Long wanted to do normal maps when such events occur. And that then photographs remain, and figure out who and where was impossible. Starting today, I will post a map of the Maidan, if any changes will occur. Prepares maps cartographer, Science Editor “Encyclopedia of History of Ukraine” (RTD) Dmitry Wortman . Today I want to present a map of central Kiev on January 27, the middle of the day. The main changes for the day: two new built barricades (street Arch. Gorodetsky and st. Zankovetska). Consequently, the territory controlled by the Maidan, expanded towards Lipki (“government quarter”). The Ministry of Justice (which was seized at night, but then released) blocked “maydanovtsami.” By clicking the big picture.

207 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:05:17pm

re: #197 Gus

Radio carbon dating is nothing but political correctness gone outta control!

C-14 is the most liberal of isotopes. As evidenced by the non-traditional freeloading neutron.

208 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:05:40pm

DAMN YOU SUPERBOWL! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

209 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:07:26pm

re: #208 Kragar

DAMN YOU SUPERBOWL! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

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Never thought I’d see the day when pop music would just get goofier.

210 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:11:59pm

I blame this on Hipster Stoners. You bastards.

211 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:12:22pm

re: #208 Kragar

DAMN YOU SUPERBOWL! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

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Great, now I find myself wishing for another power outage at the Super Bowl.

212 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:16:19pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Great, now I find myself wishing for another power outage at the Super Bowl.

I liked the first few Chilli Pepper albums when they were still a funk band. Listened to them again recently and they don’t hold up over time. They just sound kinda lame now.

213 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:17:25pm

Of course, Super Bowl half-time show are always known for the virtuous performance of both music and dance. //

214 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:17:53pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Great, now I find myself wishing for another power outage at the Super Bowl.

You just know they were sitting around talking about the WEED BOWL and thought “Dazed and Confused” would be great.

215 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:20:56pm

re: #214 Kragar

You just know they were sitting around talking about the WEED BOWL and thought “Dazed and Confused” would be great.

“Let’s play to the stoner stereotype as much as possible!”

216 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:21:31pm

Frank Zappa is still right.

217 Targetpractice  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:23:39pm

What, nobody could convince them that a really awesome halftime show would be playing The Wizard of Oz up on the big screen while syncing “Dark Side of the Moon”?

218 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:24:36pm

re: #216 Gus

Frank Zappa is still right.

Frank says:

Why do people continue to compose music, and even pretend to teach others how to do it, when they already know the answer? Nobody gives a f*ck.

219 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:25:55pm

re: #216 Gus

Frank Zappa is still right.

Zappa held up well over time. I was a big Yes fan but most of that stuff didn’t hold up well. King Crismon was much less popular but held up much better. Pink Floyd did too.

220 BongCrodny  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:26:45pm

re: #217 Targetpractice

What, nobody could convince them that a really awesome halftime show would be playing The Wizard of Oz up on the big screen while syncing “Dark Side of the Moon”?

Yeah! With some really big lava lamps!

221 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:28:49pm
222 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:28:58pm

Colbert called it the Superb owl.

223 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:29:34pm

re: #221 Gus

Youtube Video

224 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:34:50pm
225 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:39:24pm
226 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:40:03pm

Yes!

227 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:43:21pm

re: #226 Gus

Yes!

Yes!

Youtube Video

228 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:46:47pm

re: #227 NJDhockeyfan

Yes!

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229 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:49:02pm

Guy Fawkes spotted in Kiev!

230 blueraven  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:49:53pm

re: #83 Lidane

Tell me again that there’s no Republican War on Women:

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more on the debate

ALL 4 of them!

231 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:50:01pm

232 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:53:08pm
233 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:54:47pm

This guy eats danger and shits bullets…

234 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:55:50pm

Youtube Video

235 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:57:23pm

re: #232 Gus

Nice. Short version though - my favorite is the one I have from the Carnegie Hall concert in 1938. The pianist’s solo really makes that version “sing”… ;)

236 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:59:50pm

Youtube Video

237 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:04:15pm

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

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Johnny Cash - The Battle Of New Orleans

Youtube Video

238 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:05:55pm

NSFW!

Roly Poly ~ Doug Clark and The Hot Nuts

Youtube Video

239 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:07:40pm

Youtube Video

240 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:10:56pm

re: #141 Whack-A-Mole

OT, a quick question for the many photographers on LGF:

Is Canon’s Rebel T3 a good choice to start with? Is it good value for the money: $449 with the EF-S 18-55mm kit lens and a (non-stabilized) 75-300mm lens?

If no, any other recommendations for a low cost, entry-level DSLR that will leave me room to grow?

I’m pretty late, but hopefully you’re subscribed to the thread.

I bought a T3i with the EF-S 18-55mm kit lens for $437 last month and I’m very, very happy with it, though I have to admit I immediately turned around and bought more lenses.

I watched many, many YouTube reviews on telephoto zoom lenses and read pretty much every review I could find at Adorama & B&H and finally settled on the EF-S 55-250mm as it has image stabilization and better reviews where IQ (image quality) is concerned.

You really don’t want to get a long telephoto lens without stabilization as the camera shake will get worse the farther the lens is extended. Try this: Hold one end of a pencil loosely between two fingers and wiggle it a little… see how the part where your fingers are grasping it barely moves, but the other end wobbles like crazy? You lens will do the same thing, which isn’t good for various reasons. The alternative is to use a tripod.

FWIW, I’m happy enough with the performance of the EF-S 55-250mm, but I quickly discovered that I don’t much like lugging long lenses around and prime lenses offer much better IQ. If I had to do it all over again I’d probably try to find the same camera body, but with the EF-S 18-135mm IS lens or maybe even the EF-S 17-85mm USM IS instead (though both of those typically come as kit lenses with higher end camera bodies).

My favorite prime lenses are the EF 40mm f/2.8 STM Pancake and the EF 85mm f/1.8 USM. I adore them both and despise the EF 50mm f/1.8 II (also known as the “nifty fifty” or “plastic fantastic”).

Anyway, I just realized I’m talking too much (again). Spend some time on YouTube before making up your mind. My favorite lens reviewer is Christopher Frost and my favorite teacher is Mike Browne.

Hope that helps a little.

241 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:13:15pm

Why u always crash, flash?!

242 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:13:18pm

re: #232 Gus

A different version, British Army flashmob style.
Youtube Video

243 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:21:53pm

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi

A different version, British Army flashmob style.
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Sing Sing Sing (Drum Feature) - IU Drumline 2012

Youtube Video

244 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:25:53pm

re: #230 blueraven

ALL 4 of them!

Of course. This state is filled with a bunch of raving lunatics. The Texas GOP are batshit insane.

245 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:28:49pm

Now I’m on drumlines.

246 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:30:36pm

Air Force vs Army Drumline Battle

Youtube Video

247 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:32:06pm

Army wins! IMO

248 blueraven  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:37:00pm

Ludovico Einaudi - Nuvole Bianche

Youtube Video


The piece the Ukrainian protester was playing on the piano in the snow

249 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:41:31pm

Raggare

250 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:42:12pm

Uh oh. This one is massive with massive drums.

This is a Japanese drumline!

Youtube Video

251 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:43:19pm
252 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:43:52pm

re: #251 Lidane

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Pete! RIP

253 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:48:09pm

Protesters are starting to get more bad press
Ukrainians see worrisome nationalistic elements among protesters

One group has made racist and anti-gay statements. Members wear masks and present themselves, one man says, ‘like in a Nazi parade.’

254 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:49:32pm

I know he didn’t write it, but this is my favorite Pete Seeger song:

Youtube Video

255 klys  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 10:50:16pm

re: #250 Gus

Uh oh. This one is massive with massive drums.

This is a Japanese drumline!

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Taiko is serious shit.

If you ever get the chance to see TAO in concert, it is so worth it. Although that is half performance and half-serious taiko.

256 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:02:14pm

re: #255 klys

Taiko has spread into China. There’s been a taiko troupe at my university here for the last three years. They seem to model themselves on Kodo.

257 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:02:25pm

I Have a Rendezvous with Death
by Alan Seeger

I have a rendezvous with Death
At some disputed barricade,
When Spring comes back with rustling shade
And apple-blossoms fill the air—
I have a rendezvous with Death
When Spring brings back blue days and fair.

It may be he shall take my hand
And lead me into his dark land
And close my eyes and quench my breath—
It may be I shall pass him still.
I have a rendezvous with Death
On some scarred slope of battered hill,
When Spring comes round again this year
And the first meadow-flowers appear.

God knows ‘twere better to be deep
Pillowed in silk and scented down,
Where love throbs out in blissful sleep,
Pulse nigh to pulse, and breath to breath,
Where hushed awakenings are dear…
But I’ve a rendezvous with Death
At midnight in some flaming town,
When Spring trips north again this year,
And I to my pledged word am true,
I shall not fail that rendezvous.

Pete’s uncle. Poem is from 1917. WWI. Killed by the Germans after he joined the French foreign legion. WWI began 100 years ago in 1914. Pete Seeger was born in 1919.

A VISIT WITH PETE SEEGER January 1, 2012

Youtube Video

258 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:07:28pm

On August 18, 1955, Seeger was subpoenaed to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). Alone among the many witnesses after the 1950 conviction and imprisonment of the Hollywood Ten for contempt of Congress, Seeger refused to plead the Fifth Amendment (which asserted that his testimony might be self incriminating) and instead (as the Hollywood Ten had done) refused to name personal and political associations on the grounds that this would violate his First Amendment rights: “I am not going to answer any questions as to my association, my philosophical or religious beliefs or my political beliefs, or how I voted in any election, or any of these private affairs. I think these are very improper questions for any American to be asked, especially under such compulsion as this.”[68] Seeger’s refusal to testify led to a March 26, 1957, indictment for contempt of Congress; for some years, he had to keep the federal government apprised of where he was going any time he left the Southern District of New York. He was convicted in a jury trial of contempt of Congress in March 1961, and sentenced to 10 years in jail (to be served simultaneously), but in May 1962 an appeals court ruled the indictment to be flawed and overturned his conviction.

259 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:11:34pm

I was lucky to catch Seeger in concert when I was in high school during the ’70s. He and some other activist performers gave a concert at New World College on the North Shore of Long Island. (Coincidentally, not very far from my former elementary school.) It may have been for Earth Day … it’s been a while.

260 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:16:26pm

Pete Seeger’s Statement to the Court, 1961
Reprinted from Sing Out!, Summer 1961 (Vol. 11, No. 3)

Folksinger Pete Seeger, a member of the editorial board of this magazine ever since its founding more than ten years ago, has been found guilty of “contempt of Congress.” He was tried in the Federal Court House in New York and a jury convicted him on a ten-count indictment.

The indictment and subsequent trial grew out of a hearing of the Committee on Un-American Activities in the summer of 1955. At that time, Seeger refused to answer questions relating to his political beliefs and associations.

Judge Murphy, who presided at the trial, sentenced Seeger to a year in jail on each of the ten counts — ruling, however, that the jail terms would be served concurrently. Seeger was also fined the “costs of the prosecution.” Maximum sentence could have been a total of ten years in jail and a fine of $10,000.

Before passing sentence, Judge Murphy asked Seeger if he wanted to make a statement to the court. Following is Pete Seeger’s complete statement made to the court at that time:

“Thank you, your honor. After hearing myself talked about, pro and con, for three days, I am grateful for the chance to say a few unrestricted words.

First, I should like to thank my lawyer for his masterly presentation of my defense. He has worked over many long weeks and months, knowing that it is beyond my power to pay him adequately for his work. I believe that he, and great legal minds like Justice Hugo Black and Dr. Alexander Meiklejohn, have explained far better than I can why they believe the First Amendment gives an American citizen the right to refuse to speak upon occasion.

Secondly, I should like to state before this court, much as I did before Congressman Walter’s committee, my conviction that I have never in my life said, or supported, or sung anything in any way subversive of my country. Congressman Walter stated that he was investigating a conspiracy. I stated under oath that I had never done anything conspiratorial. If he doubted my word, why didn’t he even question it? Why didn’t he have me indicted for perjury? Because, I believe, even he knew that I was speaking the truth.

Some of my ancestors were religious dissenters who came to America over 300 years ago. Others were abolitionists in New England of the 1840’s and 50’s. I believe that in choosing my present course I do no dishonor to them, or to those who may come after me.

I am 42 years old, and count myself a very lucky man. I have a wife and three healthy children, and we live in a house we built with our own hands, on the banks of the beautiful Hudson River. For twenty years I have been singing folksongs of America and other lands to people everywhere. I am proud that I never refused to sing to any group of people because I might disagree with some of the ideas of some of the people listening to me. I have sung for rich and poor, for Americans of every possible political and religious opinion and persuasion, of every race, color, and creed.

The House committee wished to pillory me because it didn’t like some few of the many thousands of places I have sung for. Now it so happens that the specific song whose title was mentioned in this trial “Wasn’t That A Time” is one of my favorites. The song is apropos to this case. I wonder if I might have your permission to sing it here before I close?”

(At this point the judge refused to hear Pete Seeger sing.)

“Well, perhaps you will hear it some other time. A good song can only do good, and I am proud of the songs I have sung. I hope to be able to continue singing these songs for all who want to listen, Republicans, Democrats, and independents. Do I have the right to sing these songs? Do I have the right to sing them anywhere?”

261 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:23:42pm

re: #260 Gus

Pete Seeger’s Statement to the Court, 1961
Reprinted from Sing Out!, Summer 1961 (Vol. 11, No. 3)

This particular point of this conviction and sentencing happened while JFK was in the White House.

262 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:23:51pm

Youtube Video

263 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:28:11pm

Toshi Seeger, Wife Of Folk Singer Pete Seeger, Dies At 91
July 11, 2013 5:42 PM

264 Lidane  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:28:54pm

Pete Seeger and Johnny Cash:

Youtube Video

265 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:30:42pm

Seeger’s grandson, Kitama Cahill-Jackson said his grandfather died at New York Presbyterian Hospital, where he’d been for six days. “He was chopping wood 10 days ago,” he said.

Link.

266 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:38:46pm

Who wants the Freeper link? //

267 klys  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:39:43pm

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi

Taiko has spread into China. There’s been a taiko troupe at my university here for the last three years. They seem to model themselves on Kodo.

My husband played with the San Francisco Taiko Dojo for a while, and Stanford has a pretty respected group too.

The downside to him having played is it’s pulling teeth to get him to go see anything, because he is now snobby as hell about technique. /grouch

268 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:42:02pm

Wingnut logic: if you mourn the death of Seeger you’re a Stalin apologist and on par with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min and Kim Il Sung.

269 Kragar  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:43:26pm

re: #265 Gus

Seeger’s grandson, Kitama Cahill-Jackson said his grandfather died at New York Presbyterian Hospital, where he’d been for six days. >”He was chopping wood 10 days ago,” he said.

Link.

When it comes, it can come fast.

My Dad went from looking fine April 1st to being gone May 4th.

270 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:43:35pm

Hmm. Look at this guy’s avi.

271 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:45:34pm

re: #268 Gus

Yeah, Seeger wasn’t too popular with the hawks during the Vietnam era. Johnny Cash didn’t give a shit about all that, he still had Seeger on his TV show.

272 klys  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:46:32pm

re: #269 Kragar

When it comes, it can come fast.

My Dad went from looking fine April 1st to being gone May 4th.

My grandfather never wanted it to be prolonged, never wanted to be in a nursing home. He’d seen that with his father.

I just wish there had ended up being a little more time for goodbyes instead.

273 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:48:48pm

re: #270 Gus

Hmm. Look at this guy’s avi.

What a charming fellow. Must have been voted Most Popular in his class in high school.

274 Gus  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:50:27pm

re: #273 wheat-dogghazi

What a charming fellow. Must have been voted Most Popular in his class in high school.

Yeah, his whole timelines is one long rage boner. Last two Tweets he’s freaking out and trolling Sammy Hagar about “something, something, commie.”

275 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:52:10pm

re: #274 Gus

Yeah, his whole timelines is one long rage boner. Last two Tweets he’s freaking out and trolling Sammy Hagar about “something, something, commie.”

I note he’s been followed by Dan Riehl, who’s not as rabid but just as stupid.

276 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:54:27pm

Was Seeger one of the inspirations for Tom Lehrer’s “Folk Song Army?”

277 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:10:56am

re: #276 wheat-dogghazi

Was Seeger one of the inspirations for Tom Lehrer’s “Folk Song Army?”

Maybe.

278 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:21:45am

Tom Lehrer - Poisoning Pigeons In The Park (live, 1998)

Youtube Video

Good night!

279 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:25:57am

re: #277 Gus

My dad was pretty conservative, and a Republican, but not a nutjob. Even so, he had no patience for Seeger or Joan Baez, who he considered to be close to traitors for their opposition to the war. His buddy was an audiophile, and often got review copies of Quadraphonic albums and would share them with Dad. One of them was by Baez (a two-record set, as I recall). Although he still didn’t like Baez’ politics, even Dad had to admit she sang beautifully.

Seeger was maybe too idealistic in expecting songs would change history, but music does have power if you can get people to listen to it. I am sure if I had asked Dad to listen to Seeger and Baez, he would have rejected them both. But his contemporary recommended Baez, and Dad softened his attitudes toward her.

280 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:30:14am

MP3 Audio

281 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:47:37am

Youtube Video

282 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:51:42am

re: #148 Gus

So. This happened.

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What the fuckety fuck? So, a real NSA agent is identified, and this person’s life as he or she knew it is now over. Self and family at great risk now.

This is why amateur thieves like Snowden and agenda-driven douches like Greenwald and Poitras should not have possession of classified documents. They are reckless and should be held accountable, not celebrated. And I say this as someone who believes that govt should be as transparent and responsible to its citizens as possible. But some things should be kept out of the wrong hands—like theirs.

This is infuriating and who knows where it will lead?

Rank amateurs, all of them. And I’m pissed, because now I feel less safe, for myself and my family. The future is screwed if people like this are allowed to get away with their crimes. To allow a few people with criminal intent to get away with these kinds of cyber-crimes is just as reckless as allowing terrorists to get away with theirs, maybe worse in some respects.

If I steal money from my employer, I go to jail for embezzlement. What Snowden stole was far more valuable than that money would be. He gets no credit from me for anything. Changes to the NSA were already in the pipeline—Snowden and his gang of miscreants just couldn’t wait for the process. Their shallow thinking and narcissism took over, as it often does with evangelically-minded crusaders.

283 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:52:04am

re: #282 Justanotherhuman

Morning, JAH. :)

284 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:54:01am

re: #283 klys

Morning, JAH. :)

Morning! I hate waking up just to get pissed off! But we’re supposed to have a snow day, and my grandson is up, too. That’s exciting for us, haha. I can get by on 6 hrs easily. Off to check on Ukraine…

285 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:55:30am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

Morning! I hate waking up just to get pissed off! But we’re supposed to have a snow day, and my grandson is up, too. That’s exciting for us, haha. I can get by on 6 hrs easily. Off to check on Ukraine…

I should go to bed at some point, but…

The assignment due Wednesday evening appears to be fully functional now and within benchmarks. Further testing is required, of course, but that can probably wait until tomorrow.

I miss snow.

286 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:58:51am


And lots of people out today as usual in Kiev; it’s about 1 pm. Second video down, here.

ukrstream.tv

287 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:01:07am

People aren’t sure this will settle things, but it could be a beginning.

288 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:18:34am

Hm. I may be learning to read decipher a little Ukrainian and Russian. Well, it helped that this was in all caps and the first word maybe gave me a clue that is was announcing that Azarov had resigned? But note that age 66 is the compulsory retirement age in Ukraine, and Azarov turned 66 in Dec, so he’s not giving up anything, really. He’ll get a good retirement income and not have to deal with anything. Azarov is also of Russian origin and doesn’t speak Ukrainian very well, so he can get a dacha by the Black Sea and be comfortable.

289 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:30:49am

Old Norse people drank wine 3,000 years ago

No report on what the youngsters drank.

290 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:31:46am

Man, right now it is -19deg F at Yellowstone.

I wish I was there. :(

291 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:35:47am

Ok, right. Functioning code means I should go to bed because the alarm for the husband goes off at 9:45am even if I do not have to get up.

Just wake up 4 times and remember to wake him up after the 4th.

Haha.

292 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:40:03am

re: #289 freetoken

Old Norse people drank wine 3,000 years ago

No report on what the youngsters drank.

Read the entire article. They may be jumping the gun. Also, some ancestors were real drunks?

“In fact, I believe we have been drinking for as long as we’ve had agriculture,” he says. “One early source is the Roman senator Tacitus, who describes how Nordic people brewed a certain resemblance of wine made of grain and water.”

“Later, around year 900 AD, an Arabian man ran into some Vikings in northern Russia, and he was not impressed with the Vikings’ relationship with alcohol.

“He describes how they drank and remained drunk all day,” says Henriksen.”

293 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:48:25am
294 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:49:39am

Gus has a page up about the Texastan GOP lt. governor candidates in a debate not long ago.

Monday they had another one:

Lt. governor debate touches on marijuana, abortion and creationism

and

GOP hopefuls debate in show of conservative strength [that’s quite the euphemism]

[…]

Aside from Dewhurst, the lieutenant governor’s race features state Sen. Dan Patrick of Houston, Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson and Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples.

[…]

Throughout the debate, all four agreed on a host of far-right issues: that creationism should be taught in school, that border enforcement needs to be strengthened and that each is unwavering in their support of pro-life policy.

The candidates also weighed in on a hot-button case out of Fort Worth in which a judge last week ruled that a hospital could unhook from life support a brain-dead woman who was pregnant. The case of Marlise Muñoz received national attention after hospital officials said a Texas law required them to keep her alive to protect the fetus, despite her husband’s objections. She was taken off life support Sunday after a judge allowed the family’s request.

All four said the judge got it wrong.

[…]

Youtube Video

Starts shortly after 4:00.


Texastan, indeed.

295 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:54:23am

Just remember: Until Snowden allegedly taught him, Greenwald says he didn’t even know how to encrypt a simple email.

“This was bound to happen at some point in this ongoing saga: the name of an American agent has been leaked to the public via a document stolen by Edward Snowden. To add to the irresponsibility of how Snowden went about this operation, he distributed untold thousands of documents to a gaggle of technological neophytes who barely understand how to used Adobe Acrobat, much less the phenomenally complicated details of top secret NSA operations.

“The public relies upon these reporters to accurately translate the techno-heavy information in the Snowden documents for the benefit of the debate. How can we be sure that this sort of epic blunder won’t happen again? Indeed, as more reporters gain access to Snowden’s documents, the likelihood only increases.

“As for Snowden, rather than choosing very specific files which he deemed to be in the public interest, then carefully vetting every detail, he chose to indiscriminately dump the documents into the world, trusting that reporters will figure it all out and do the right thing. While no one’s perfect and we all make mistakes, this is high stakes material and there’s simply no room for errors like this. “

thedailybanter.com

296 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:01:13am

What those news stories don’t cover, for example, is the gun fetish at around at around 28:00, where the candidate exclaims that if someone doesn’t carry a gun then they are not a citizen but a “serf”.

This is America, 2014.

297 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:06:43am

The creationism topic comes up at 43:30 in the vid.

298 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:08:58am

It’s a doozie-f*ck of answers.

299 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:13:41am

re: #294 freetoken

Worse, these people are proud of their ignorance.

300 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:15:52am

MP3 Audio

301 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:34:21am

This is very interesting, both in the revelation that these 2 brothers were MPs in the Ukrainian Parliament when they got this loan at an Austrian bank (not even one in Ukraine—why outside your own country?) and that they lied about being politically important persons on the application for the loan—I’m guessing they thought the Austrians wouldn’t know who they were and wouldn’t have questions.

And BTW, Andrew Kliuev is currently Secretary of National Security and Defense and set up a working group in Parliament to “resolve” the current crisis. And the Ukrainian people are supposed to trust this liar?

Austrian banks confirmed that kliuev lied

pravda.com.ua

“In the Austrian bank Hypo Vorarlberg confirmed the authenticity of the documents, which kliuev to provide false information .

This article refers to the Austrian newspaper Der Standard.

Chairman of the Board Hypo Vorarlberg Michael Hrahammer said that the documents referred to kliuev “false ” do not identify themselves as ” politically important person .”

” We believe that the form has been filled incorrectly by mistake ” - said Hrahammer .

He added that customers - to kliuev - were familiar with the bank. Also, the bank knew of their status as “politically relevant persons ” through publication in print.

The bank also are checking how scandalous document was available to the ” Ukrainian Truth” .

Most kliuev after the publication of ” Ukrainian Truth” that they provided false information and breached Austrian law , said that ” never signed the document .”

As you know, in order amended form was submitted Andrei and Sergei kliuev Austrian VorArlberg Landes-und Hypothekenbank AG ( now renamed the bank Hypo Vorarlberg).

This document Kliuiev were asked whether they “politisch exponierte Personen” ( PEP ) - or , translated , “politically important persons .”

And Andrew Kliuev and Sergey Kliuev answered ” no” clearly violated the law of Austrian banks. Indeed, at the time of card - February 22, 2010 - they were both MPs Ukraine .”

302 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:37:46am

Good cold morning!

-10° currently in central Ohio. Hopefully this will be the last day of this crap.

Well, looks like I missed a fun-filled evening of Killgore being all Killgore on Maddow.

I see some of the news this am is about Obama having low poll numbers the day he makes his State of the Union Address. From what I can tell, it seems that the poll questions are mainly about the economy, future direction and the like.

Would not the President’s ratings fall due to the extremely low rated do-nothing Congress especially when general questions are asked about things like economy, direction, etc. Would not people expect the President to be able to control congress and direct them to the proper direction and since he can’t get anything done with them, it would reflect in his numbers.

I’d like to hear some of the answers to the polling questions. I bet the general malaise in this country colors just about everything.

Add in all the hate that is thrown against the President and I would think 47% isn’t all that bad. Oh well. Onward. Trudge…trudge…damn this muck is thick.

303 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:46:04am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Good cold morning!

-10° currently in central Ohio. Hopefully this will be the last day of this crap.

Well, looks like I missed a fun-filled evening of Killgore being all Killgore on Maddow.

I see some of the news this am is about Obama having low poll numbers the day he makes his State of the Union Address. From what I can tell, it seems that the poll questions are mainly about the economy, future direction and the like.

Would not the President’s ratings fall due to the extremely low rated do-nothing Congress especially when general questions are asked about things like economy, direction, etc. Would not people expect the President to be able to control congress and direct them to the proper direction and since he can’t get anything done with them, it would reflect in his numbers.

I’d like to hear some of the answers to the polling questions. I bet the general malaise in this country colors just about everything.

Add in all the hate that is thrown against the President and I would think 47% isn’t all that bad. Oh well. Onward. Trudge…trudge…damn this muck is thick.

Brrrr! It’s 27 here now and they’re calling (but hedging) on snow today and maybe tonight, perhaps even a “few” inches. It would be the first one of the winter here. But they always hedge—it’s never a definite thing here like maybe it would be in the mountains.

And yeah, this Congress has been essentially a “do nothing” Congress since it started in 2009 and forward. After all, who the entire country chose doesn’t matter—only their own little personal fiefdoms back home do.

304 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:56:22am

Cancellation of dictatorial laws is only the first small step towards meeting the requirements of people. Klychko.


This ain’t going away any time soon. And now there are barricades on both sides.

305 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:58:34am

Looks like this livestream is being jammed, perhaps? Lots of pink static interference. Or could just be a camera malfunction?

ukrstream.tv

306 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 4:02:34am

re: #305 Justanotherhuman

Looks like this livestream is being jammed, perhaps? Lots of pink static interference. Or could just be a camera malfunction?

ukrstream.tv

No, nothing as nefarious as jamming. Turned it off and then back on and it’s ok now. But blinding nonetheless.

307 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 4:13:51am

I wonder who imported these guys? Those are Crimean flags.

308 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 4:52:34am

There appear to be concerns that more mercenaries are being hired to help the riot police, according to this report. According to the video, if I’m interpreting it right, they’re even advertising on the web for recruits, so they could be from anywhere. Also, described as a pyramid scheme—for every person you recruit, you get paid, too, on up the line. Those w/military experience get more money. This is a rough Google translation from Ukrainian (they seem to do better w/Russian).

“In Ukraine squads ” tytushok ” turned into a true pyramid . There are hundreds and foremen who receive remuneration for each ” friend” , which led to government support , according to a story of money. Each of your friends gets immediately by 10. Whoever brought - in times . After this has been vidroblyaty future paycheck. Read more: ” Tytushky ” ultras fired “Dnepr” One day rallies - 200 UAH. Participation in combat is much more. ” Pay 200 USD. During the day and at night. If only I had the money I would have this in my life has come ” - says protesters.

“Tytushky ” who caught last night on the streets of Kyiv , apologized to the people instead ” tytushky ” kickboxers and former soldiers receive more favorable terms. In one day they can get up to $ 100. And that’s just for the fact that the team will be waiting to go on the attack. And there is already someone’s shed blood. For blood - the main condition ” tytushkuvannya .”

More can be found here : tsn.ua

309 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:15:59am

re: #308 Justanotherhuman

NuMercenaries — the 21st Century’s newest MLM road to riches! Get in now while there are still places at the top!

//

310 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:18:53am

re: #23 Targetpractice

So Perkins’ solution to the plight of the rich is basically to allow the rich to further fuck us over with as little interference as possible? Yeah, let’s look at how well that worked in the last decade 18th century France.

FTFY

*also testing my secure sock layer. feels toasty.

311 darthstar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:34:07am
312 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:41:31am

Good morning Lizards.
A toast 12 F here in Philadelphia. (Co-workers in Pittsburgh report -6 F). Recently arrived Brazilians are not responding in English… O_o

The short thaw at least was good enough for the sidewalks and roads to melt clear. Edges of intersections still have snowpiles though. And a few curb areas are alternating between being ponds and ice rinks depending on the current temp.

Time for more coffee and to go buy a block in the office Superb Owl pool.

313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:41:41am

re: #311 darthstar

BREAKING: Snowden leaks that apps that require you allow them to share your details share your details.

Which is why I do not play games or run apps at Facebook and only share information there that I am okay with the whole world finding out about.

314 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:42:16am

Damn. Both Ukr streams are now off-air. ETA: Back up again. Sketchy today, though.

What these former ambassadors to the Ukraine don’t understand about this protest is that the oligarchs are part of the problem, not part of the solution. There is real resentment against those who have gotten rich on the people’s dime with the blessing of the bureaucrats who turned much of the country’s wealth and resources over to them, just as in Russia. I don’t think anyone really wants more bloodshed, more deaths, but unless even the West understands the real dynamics of this situation, no one can help from the outside. For the majority of people in Ukraine, in Russia and in other countries within Russia’s sphere, “trickle down” isn’t working any better there than it is in the US or Europe.

What the West Must Do for Ukraine

nytimes.com

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:46:46am

nbcnews.com

Hey wait! Where’s the data and presentation on the canyon being only 6,000 years old! Help! We’re being oppressed!
////

316 darthstar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:47:33am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Which is why I do not play games or run apps at Facebook and only share information there that I am okay with the whole world finding out about.

I only use social media for the secrecy it provides.

317 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:48:39am

re: #309 wheat-dogghazi

NuMercenaries — the 21st Century’s newest MLM road to riches! Get in now while there are still places at the top!

//

And if you make it to the very top level, you get a custom pink Armored Personnel Carrier as a reward for your dedication.
NuMerc: Kicking Ass and Looking Fab


NuMercenaries: Where “Go out and kick some ass” isn’t just a sales slogan.

318 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:49:36am

#EuroMaidan’s Dead And Missing: An Overview

storify.com

319 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:51:16am

re: #312 Feline Fearless Leader

Expecting 1/2 to 2 inches of snow here in Atlanta and the burbs (interestingly enough, the further south, the higher the expected accumulation)

it was 62 degrees yesterday. I was out playing golf

It will hit a high of 29 today, and I’ll be working outside for some of it

Yeah,,, I plan on having pneumonia by the morning,, whats it to ya!!

320 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:52:46am

Hmm, Stephen Glass denied license to practice law in California.

usnews.nbcnews.com

Another New Republic alumnus for whom the barrier between fiction and journalism proved wafer-thin.

Glass passed the New York bar exam in 2002 but withdrew in 2004 after he found out his moral character application was rejected. When he passed the bar exam in California in 2006 and was reviewed again, Glass revealed in character proceedings that he had covered up ethical breaches in his previous New York review.

Edit: And the comments on that article are the usual fever swamp.

321 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:53:32am
322 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:54:08am

re: #319 sattv4u2

Expecting 1/2 to 2 inches of snow here in Atlanta and the burbs (interestingly enough, the further south, the higher the expected accumulation)

it was 62 degrees yesterday. I was out playing golf

It will hit a high of 29 today, and I’ll be working outside for some of it

Yeah,,, I plan on having pneumonia by the morning,, whats it to ya!!

Joy. If I recall correctly any snow falling that far south tends to call massive trouble. Often simply psychological damage other than necessarily being a real threat to driving.

323 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:54:16am
324 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:54:43am

re: #317 RealityBasedSteve

And if you make it to the very top level, you get a custom pink Armored Personnel Carrier as a reward for your dedication.
NuMerc: Kicking Ass and Looking Fab

NuMercenaries: Where “Go out and kick some ass” isn’t just a sales slogan.

And you never have to worry about parking ever again!

325 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:55:11am

-8 in Dearborn, but at least the sun is shining.

326 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:55:22am

Mr. Yanukovych, tear down that wall…

ukrstream.tv

327 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:57:42am

re: #322 Feline Fearless Leader

Joy. If I recall correctly any snow falling that far south tends to call massive trouble. Often simply psychological damage other than necessarily being a real threat to driving.

Oh hell ya

When we 1st moved down here (from Boston) they cancelled school for 4 DAYS because of the “snow”
The snow we got ,,,,, a dusting, at best. Started at about 10 pm one night (ended by 6 the next morning) . By noon that day the only “snow” that you could see was on cars that hadn’t been driven and under trees where the sun hadn’t hit yet, BUT,.,,, because the temps were going to be below freezing AT NIGHT they were afraid the remnants of the snow would ice up causing road conditions too dangerous to drive on!

328 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:58:11am

re: #319 sattv4u2

Expecting 1/2 to 2 inches of snow here in Atlanta and the burbs (interestingly enough, the further south, the higher the expected accumulation)

it was 62 degrees yesterday. I was out playing golf

It will hit a high of 29 today, and I’ll be working outside for some of it

Yeah,,, I plan on having pneumonia by the morning,, whats it to ya!!

Hit about 50 here yesterday, predicting a high of about 20 today. Going to be down around 0 tomorrow AM. Not great fun, but it’s what it is. No snow / rain / sheet / frogs falling from the sky however, so that’s all good. And I don’t want to think about Atlanta traffic with 2 inches of snow.

RBS

329 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 5:59:00am

re: #328 RealityBasedSteve

And I don’t want to think about Atlanta traffic with 2 inches of snow.

It’s brutal on a nice summer day!!

330 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:02:21am

re: #329 sattv4u2

And I don’t want to think about Atlanta traffic with 2 inches of snow.

It’s brutal on a nice summer day!!

I get down there about 3 times a year, teach a class at our Atlanta center. It’s up in the Dunwoody area across from Perimeter Mall. It’s quicker for me to walk the 1.3 miles to and from the hotel each day than to drive down. (Especially in the evening).

RBS

331 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:05:22am

re: #330 RealityBasedSteve

I get down there about 3 times a year, teach a class at our Atlanta center. It’s up in the Dunwoody area across from Perimeter Mall. It’s quicker for me to walk the 1.3 miles to and from the hotel each day than to drive down. (Especially in the evening).

RBS

You should see that area at Christmas time (traffic wise)
Fuugggetttaaboutit

332 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:05:33am

Good morning! -21 degrees F wih wind chill of -45 degrees F here in Hayward WI where we are missing a 6th day of school due to cold weather.

Bisbee Arizona sounds better every day…

333 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:06:04am

re: #330 RealityBasedSteve

Hit me up next time you’re there. I’ll buy the 1st 2 rounds!!

334 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:07:48am

Current predictions put the snowfall here in the 404 at 1 inch max in most places.

There’s already emails going around this morning about going home early, working from home, and ‘staying safe with the weather’ and such.

Welcome to Georgia, folks.

If(localWeather.snowAmount > 0) {
localPopulace.shitBricks();
locale.snowpocalypse = True;
}

335 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:08:17am

re: #332 William Barnett-Lewis

Good morning! -21 degrees F wih wind chill of -45 degrees F here in Hayward WI where we are missing a 6th day of school due to cold weather.

Bisbee Arizona sounds better every day…

Belize

Ocean ,,, tropical breezes ,,,,, and the golf that Arizona has!!

336 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:09:53am

re: #334 GunstarGreen

Welcome to Georgia, folks.

Yup,, was just talking about that

Was out playing 18 holes of golf yesterday in the low 60’s

337 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:11:01am

We got 4 inches over the weekend. I did not even bother to shovel the drive, why should I? I have 4WD.

338 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:11:36am

If it gets >6” then I will call the plow guy.

339 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:12:39am

re: #316 darthstar

I only use social media for the secrecy it provides.

I joined FB because it is a good way to advertise band gigs and sessions or to keep up on group social activities in town.

If I want privacy, I speak to someone in person.

340 Flounder  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:12:58am

re: #12 Lidane

That was great, she wasn’t sure it was her teddy bear until she smelled it. The human brain is an amazing thing!

341 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:13:25am

re: #336 sattv4u2

Welcome to Georgia, folks.

Yup,, was just talking about that

Was out playing 18 holes of golf yesterday in the low 60’s

We’re on the southern edge of the storm—expecting up to 4”. The worst ice is between us and Birmingham. The Coleman stove is ready for tomorrow’s coffee, but I’ll pop red smoke if we tap the last box of wine.

342 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:16:58am
343 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:18:44am

re: #342 Justanotherhuman

Outside Agitators! We knew how to deal with them back in Dixie!!!

344 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:19:21am
345 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:19:41am
346 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:23:03am

Euromaidan movement won’t be satisfied until Yanukovych is gone.

347 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:24:24am

WTFITS I just can’t even
POTUS DID NOT “Cut Military Pay” Paul Ryan & GOP did that

348 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:26:15am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

If it gets >6” then I will call the plow guy.

If you sold pies you’d get the plowing done for free as people would arrange for it to get done so as not to interfere with their pie retrieval.
;)

349 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:26:59am

re: #347 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS I just can’t even
POTUS DID NOT “Cut Military Pay” Paul Ryan & GOP did that

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It is a peculiar trait of the American Right to be outraged about cutting pay for one particular profession, while simultaneously outraged about raising pay for another profession.

The government is incompetent and corrupt and can’t do anything right and GUB’MINT IS THE PROBLEM NOT THE ANSWER… except when it comes to the largest, most well-funded (read: possessed of the most waste, fraud and graft) wing of the government: the military.

350 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:28:14am

re: #347 Pie-onist Overlord

Preidents propose, but they don’t decide on the budgets, Congress does that. The pres just signs off on it. Erick Son of Erick is whipping up his followers again.

351 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:30:27am

re: #347 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS I just can’t even
POTUS DID NOT “Cut Military Pay” Paul Ryan & GOP did that

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Erickson is a lying, nutty douche but some reading that, the “true believers” will think it’s right.

That’s the trouble with the internet—so many lies, so little time to refute before people lap that shit up. The internet is like so much in society—instant gratification without bothering to research and understand it yourself. It’s like Limbaugh on steroids, all opinions with no work behind it.

They’re going to believe what they want to.

352 darthstar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:30:40am
353 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:31:44am

re: #352 darthstar

The GOP should just run Hypnotoad for 10 minutes and be done with it.

354 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:34:46am

re: #353 Feline Fearless Leader

The GOP should just run Hypnotoad for 10 minutes and be done with it.

Youtube Video

355 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:36:54am

re: #353 Feline Fearless Leader

The GOP should just run Hypnotoad for 10 minutes and be done with it.

I seem to recall hearing that one of their speakers talked about having their grandkid in one hand and their speech in the other well in advance of the actual address.

A thinking, rational and engaged party base would be outraged that their representatives already had a response before even hearing the speech, but then again this is America. Politics-as-sports-contests should be one of the most ire-raising and despicable states of being, but we embrace it.

356 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:37:33am

re: #351 Justanotherhuman

Erickson is a lying, nutty douche but some reading that, the “true believers” will think it’s right.

That’s the trouble with the internet—so many lies, so little time to refute before people lap that shit up. The internet is like so much in society—instant gratification without bothering to research and understand it yourself. It’s like Limbaugh on steroids, all opinions with no work behind it.

They’re going to believe what they want to.

Even liberals can’t resist viral Internet memes. I keep seeing that Saudi Arabian art photo as “PROOF OF SYRIAN ATROCITIES!!!1!!!!”

357 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:39:18am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

Even liberals can’t resist viral Internet memes. I keep seeing that Saudi Arabian art photo as “PROOF OF SYRIAN ATROCITIES!!!1!!!!”

Derp has no party loyalty.

358 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:40:14am

re: #357 Decatur Deb

Derp has no party loyalty.

But it’s much more comfortable in the GOP.

359 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:41:43am

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

360 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:41:47am

re: #355 GunstarGreen

their representatives already had a response before even hearing the speech,

iirc, it’s been customary since the SOTU became a live speech (as opposed to when the POTUS sent the written State Of The Union to congress) that the opposition party gets an advanced copy of the text prior to the actual SOTU

361 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:42:18am

Erick b. Erick never answered my question of “How Many Abortions Has ‘Abortion Barbie’ Had?”

362 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:44:44am

re: #361 Pie-onist Overlord

Erick b. Erick never answered my question of “How Many Abortions Has ‘Abortion Barbie’ Had?”

And he never will.

363 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:45:38am

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

Stop pretending like the issue is how @EWErickson spoke about Wendy Davis. It’s not. Y’all are in favor of abortion.

In other words, if you are against abortion, you are justified in saying anything at all about people who want to allow them.

364 darthstar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:45:55am

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!

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365 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:47:33am
366 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:49:04am

re: #325 Pie-onist Overlord

-8 in Dearborn, but at least the sun is shining.

Same here in Columbus…the sun is deceiving though. I ran out at 7:30 to put out my recyclables bin for pickup (don’t know if they will make it around though in this weather) and it is damn cold but the wind is calm which helps.

367 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:56:59am

re: #355 GunstarGreen

re: #360 sattv4u2

their representatives already had a response before even hearing the speech,

iirc, it’s been customary since the SOTU became a live speech (as opposed to when the POTUS sent the written State Of The Union to congress) that the opposition party gets an advanced copy of the text prior to the actual SOTU

Good to know the ole brain still retains some stuff

Since 1966,[19] the speech has been followed on television by a response or rebuttal by a member of the political party opposing the President’s party.

So at least for the past almost 50 years the other party must have gotten an advanced copy of the POTUS’s speech

en.wikipedia.org

368 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:57:41am

And on that note,,, time to go outside, crawl inside the hibs of these dishes and fire up the heaters!!

Followed by the long quiet drive home

369 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:58:08am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

Even liberals can’t resist viral Internet memes. I keep seeing that Saudi Arabian art photo as “PROOF OF SYRIAN ATROCITIES!!!1!!!!”

A lot of people go on the internet who never liked to do their homework, but most of them, unlike Erickson and others, don’t create shit out of thin air, they just repeat it.

370 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:58:27am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Who is “Pete” and why is everyone always concerned about his “sake?”

Who is this General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?

371 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:00:12am

ZOMG TYRANNY

President Obama plans to sign an executive order requiring that janitors, construction workers and others working for federal contractors be paid at least $10.10 an hour, using his own power to enact a more limited version of a policy that he has yet to push through Congress.

More of this please. Obama will try to do this legislatively and get nowhere, so if the Congress was stupid enough to give the President the flexibility to make these EOs viable, then he should do it.

to add: he’s daring the GOP to overturn the EO - God bless him.

372 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:00:12am

re: #368 sattv4u2

And on that note,,, time to go outside, crawl inside the hibs of these dishes and fire up the heaters!!

Followed by the long quiet drive home

Hubs?

373 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:04:36am

re: #371 Internet Tough Guy

ZOMG TYRANNY

More of this please. Obama tried to do this legislatively and got nowhere, so if the Congress was stupid enough to give the President the flexibility to make these EOs viable, then he should do it.

What the sellers of the Executive Orders!! Tyranny!! BS don’t grasp is that executive orders (with a few narrow exceptions) are internal instructions for operating the Executive Branch.

374 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:06:06am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

What the sellers of the Executive Orders!! Tyranny!! BS don’t grasp is that >executive orders (with a few narrow exceptions) are internal instructions for operating the >Executive Branch.

THEY ARE THE TOOLS OF TYRANNY WHICH OBAMA WILL USE TO ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION AND TURN US INTO A SECULARIST-HUMANIST GAY CALIPHATE!!!

/

375 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:06:10am

Hmmm… I keep getting bounced back to the main page when trying to give +1 to people’s comments. Odd. Also had to change my bookmark URL for LGF because it was giving a bounce-back error (using https vs http did the trick).

376 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:08:48am

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

No, it’s about Freedom. Less government. Liberty.

/

377 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:10:19am
378 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:10:40am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

You know who else issued Executive Orders to raise the minimum wage? //

379 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:13:59am

re: #378 Bulworth

You know who else issued Executive Orders to raise the minimum wage? //

Von Bismarck would be my first guess.

380 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:15:44am

re: #371 Internet Tough Guy

ZOMG TYRANNY

More of this please. Obama will try to do this legislatively and get nowhere, so if the Congress was stupid enough to give the President the flexibility to make these EOs viable, then he should do it.

to add: he’s daring the GOP to overturn the EO - God bless him.

Remember though, Obama is no different than the republican party.

///

381 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:16:29am


This is why the GOP claims that because Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner engaged in adultery or inappropriate sexual conduct disqualifies Democrats from talking about a war on women misses the boat.

The GOP policy has been to attack the right of women to control their own bodies - whether it’s via access to contraception (with or without insurance), abortion access (waiting periods, intrusive procedures), or suggesting that marital rape isn’t rape (or doesn’t exist) or that you can’t get pregnant if you’ve been raped, or any of the other inanities that the GOP has trotted out in the past several years as part of TRAP laws to eliminate the right of women to access legal abortions.

It’s the policy that is abusive and attacks women. And the GOP is perfectly fine having a bunch of white guys telling women of all colors, creeds, or religious orientations what’s acceptable or not.

382 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:18:10am

re: #376 Bulworth

No, it’s about Freedom. Less government. Liberty.

/

Unless you’re gay, female, or a minority.

383 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:20:07am

re: #148 Gus

So. This happened.

[Embedded content]

Is exposing Fed agents a felony still or was that changed when Cheney did it?

384 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:21:25am

WTFITS

385 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:21:58am

HURR HURR!!!!1!! WE LOVE TEH CONSTITUTION SO MUCH WE WANT A MILITARY COUP TO OVERTHROW TEH POTUS!!!1!!!!!

386 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:22:13am

Airwick Erickson defends ‘Abortion Barbie’ slur of Wendy Davis with vile rant

I really hope Americans are paying attention; this is who the GOP really are.

387 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:23:20am

HURR HURR!!!11!!! ALL TEH VOTES FOR OBAMA SHOULD HAVE BEEN COUNTED AS 3/5 OF A VOTE!!!1!!!!!

388 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:27:25am

re: #385 Pie-onist Overlord

We have to destroy Amercia and the Constitution in order to save them.

389 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:28:33am

HE did this to US.

He did what to US?

These teatards. So vague and non-specific.

390 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:31:59am

re: #384 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

These fuckwits never stop and ask themselves “What happens after a coup?” Seriously, what do they think happens after the military chooses to violate their oaths and remove a democratically-elected government from power through force? That the generals all get together and decide they want somebody like Rand Paul in power?

391 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:32:43am

re: #389 Bulworth

HE did this to US.

He did what to US?

These teatards. So vague and non-specific.

Unemployment done, stock markets up, affordable health care for more people — no wonder these people are pissed! Obama has done such a shitty job!
//

392 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:34:10am

I want to do a Wonka meme saying:

SO YOU WANT A MILITARY COUP TO OVERTHROW THE PRESIDENT

TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THE CONSTITUTION

393 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:35:08am

I don’t think this is going to stop them…


The crowds are getting larger as people get off work as well. It’s usually pretty laid back during the day, with politicians making statements like this:

“I left the job so the crisis could end” - Ukraine’s PM Azarov made a resignation video stmt Youtube Video …

394 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:35:26am

re: #387 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!! ALL TEH VOTES FOR OBAMA SHOULD HAVE BEEN COUNTED AS 3/5 OF A VOTE!!!1!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Article of Faith: This nation could simply NOT have elected or re-elected Obama without some sort of illegal suberfuge, buying of votes or perversion of the democratic process. It just could not have happened in “their” America…

395 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:35:39am

Meanwhile, Karzai is in tin foil hat territory, claiming the US is engaging in insurgent attacks to undermine his government.

The Afghan president believes Americans have aided or conducted insurgent-style attacks to undermine his government, senior Afghan officials say.

396 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:36:25am

In most military coups, the result is that the guy who organized the coup or a cadre of generals who threw in their lot with the revolutionaries do so not because they intend to start up elections and allow things to move on as if the president and his entire government were removed from office through constitutional means. No, they look at the situation and decide “You know, we’ve got all the power, why give it back?”

397 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:36:45am

re: #395 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Karzai is in tin foil hat territory, claiming the US is engaging in insurgent attacks to undermine his government.

I’ve always thought Karzai was nuttier than a fruitcake.

398 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:37:15am

re: #395 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Karzai is in tin foil hat territory, claiming the US is engaging in insurgent attacks to undermine his government.

Portrait of a dictator losing his grip on the reins of power.

399 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:37:22am

HURR HURR!!!11!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!

400 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:38:37am

re: #396 Targetpractice

In most military coups, the result is that the guy who organized the coup or a cadre of generals who threw in their lot with the revolutionaries do so not because they intend to start up elections and allow things to move on as if the president and his entire government were removed from office through constitutional means. No, they look at the situation and decide “You know, we’ve got all the power, why give it back?”

The clowns pushing the 16 May ‘velvet’ coup propose arresting most of the Dem and GOP leadership, to be replaced by a ‘tribunal’ of TP luminaries—Cruz, Rand, etc.

401 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:38:54am

Where does the “uppity” quote come from?

The N-word quote is from a gossip “tell all” published in 1993, not published during LBJ’s lifetime.

402 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:39:03am

re: #392 Pie-onist Overlord

Tell me again

403 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:40:18am

re: #399 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!

[Embedded content]

Can we deport her ass? Look what she calls herself—a Cuban.

“Libertarian,Cuban and 11th GDaughter of Francis Cooke,7th cous Pres.Harding #LibertyBitches #tgdn #tcot #NRA LOVE OUR Constitution. Don’t like my speech? LEAVE”

404 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:43:43am

re: #400 Decatur Deb

The clowns pushing the 16 May ‘velvet’ coup propose arresting most of the Dem and GOP leadership, to be replaced by a ‘tribunal’ of TP luminaries—Cruz, Rand, etc.

The Velvet Revolution saw up to 500,000 protesters in Prague at one time. Meanwhile, these Tea Party loons are lucky if they can get 10,000 people in one spot for anything more than the time it takes the press to snap a picture.

405 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:44:59am

DO YOU KNOW WHO ELSE BARRICADED NATIONAL WAR MEMORIALS!!11!!!!

406 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:45:00am

re: #404 Targetpractice

The Velvet Revolution saw up to 500,000 protesters in Prague at one time. Meanwhile, these Tea Party loons are lucky if they can get 10,000 people in one spot for anything more than the time it takes the press to snap a picture.

Hey!! It’s a plan. Not a good plan, but a plan.

407 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:51:27am

No strings attached

408 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:51:56am

re: #405 Pie-onist Overlord

You can always tell the real truth by how many 3’s and 4’s it’s spelled with.

409 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:55:26am

YAYY!! The temperature went up 6 since this morning! It is now -5!

410 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:57:37am

re: #405 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah, and add a little Nazi imagery in there too - the peel back of the Obama logo to reveal, the Nazis. Super.

411 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 7:57:39am

Good list from Gawker. I hate lists.

94 Reasons Pete Seeger Matters in 2014

gawker.com

412 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:01:34am

For those interested in the Ukraine-Petapixel has a heck of a piece, Paged Astonishing front line photography, as good as i have ever seen.

413 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:01:48am

re: #410 lawhawk

Yeah, and add a little Nazi imagery in there too - the peel back of the Obama logo to reveal, the Nazis. Super.

It’s such a chicken shit tactic. And the thing is if the WWII memorial had been vandalized during the shut down, these people would be the first to blame Obama for not “doing enough.” And honestly while I really do feel bad for the vets who were unable to visit the memorial, it’s pretty fucking pathetic that this is the narrative that teh right wing is making about the shutdown, especially one which they caused but not people who couldn’t get benefits.

414 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:05:15am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

It’s such a chicken shit tactic. And the thing is if the WWII memorial had been vandalized during the shut down, these people would be the first to blame Obama for not “doing enough.” And honestly while I really do feel bad for the vets who were unable to visit the memorial, it’s pretty fucking pathetic that this is the narrative that teh right wing is making about the shutdown, especially one which they caused but not people who couldn’t get benefits.

The whole HURR HURR!!!!11!!! VETERANS CAN’T GET TO VISIT THERE MEMORIALS!!!1!!!! was STAGED by the GOP by bringing in plane loads of elderly veterans for a photo op AFTER they voted to shutdown the government.

415 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:05:47am

To the American right;

People not getting their benefits during a shutdown, tough shit moochers!

People not able to go to federally funded memorials and museums, outrage outrage impeach Obama!

Seriously, yall hate the government so much that you were willing to shut it down because you hate ACA so much, you should be able to deal with not being able to go to a federally funded memorial. Fucking right wing hypocrites.

416 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:05:51am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

The shutdown was perpetrated by the GOP. John Boehner admitted as much way back in July 2013, when they had a handshake deal with Democrats on a budget, but the TP extortionists demanded nothing but a delay/destroy Obamacare scorched earth policy, and that’s what Boehner went with.

They failed, and it led to a shutdown.

A shutdown that affected more than National Parks and the monuments in DC.

It affected provision of care for seniors, and a whole host of other functions of government that people don’t pay much attention to except when it goes away.

Now, we’re about to get a farm bill deal, one that cuts food stamps, but not as drastically as the GOP demanded, but which also cut subsidies as well.

That’s taken as a positive, even though the food costs for people aren’t declining. It just means less food to be purchased by people who need the safety net at any time.

417 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:06:30am

re: #414 Pie-onist Overlord

The whole HURR HURR!!!!11!!! VETERANS CAN’T GET TO VISIT THERE MEMORIALS!!!1!!!! was STAGED by the GOP by bringing in plane loads of elderly veterans for a photo op AFTER they voted to shutdown the government.

As I said, the fact that they made this their outrage de jour about the shut down to me shows A) how petty they are and B) how they lack any resemblance of priorities.

418 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:08:00am

re: #416 lawhawk

The shutdown was perpetrated by the GOP. John Boehner admitted as much way back in July 2013, when they had a handshake deal with Democrats on a budget, but the TP extortionists demanded nothing but a delay/destroy Obamacare scorched earth policy, and that’s what Boehner went with.

They failed, and it led to a shutdown.

A shutdown that affected more than National Parks and the monuments in DC.

It affected provision of care for seniors, and a whole host of other functions of government that people don’t pay much attention to except when it goes away.

Now, we’re about to get a farm bill deal, one that cuts food stamps, but not as drastically as the GOP demanded, but which also cut subsidies as well.

That’s taken as a positive, even though the food costs for people aren’t declining. It just means less food to be purchased by people who need the safety net at any time.

Exactly, this shutdown happened because Boehner the coward that he is cared more about the whims of a bunch of extremists who couldn’t accept that a legitimately passed law was about to be implemented then doing the right thing. Anyone who blames Obama for the shutdown or even tries the stupid and dishonest both sides tactics is either delusional or willfully ignorant.

419 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:16:13am
420 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:23:39am
421 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:23:50am

re: #412 Political Atheist

For those interested in the Ukraine-Petapixel has a heck of a piece, Paged Astonishing front line photography, as good as i have ever seen.

Yeah, that’s the same guy I linked the other day. Fantastic stuff, and I emailed him some thanks and asked that he keep trying to get US papers to report on this. His asst wrote me back a “thank you”. : )

422 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:24:40am

WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?

423 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:27:44am
424 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:30:26am

Going to Key Biscayne after the Mrs. gets her hair done. Got to turn the air down, getting chilly in here…

425 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:35:38am

re: #389 Bulworth

HE did this to US.

He did what to US?

These teatards. So vague and non-specific.

Barack Obama had the gall to get elected POTUS. Twice.

Clearly, this is grounds for a military coup.

//////

426 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:36:49am

re: #390 Targetpractice

Seriously, what do they think happens after the military chooses to violate their oaths and remove a democratically-elected government from power through force? That the generals all get together and decide they want somebody like Rand Paul in power?

President Ted Cruz and Vice President Allen West, obviously.

////////

427 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:37:58am

re: #392 Pie-onist Overlord

I want to do a Wonka meme saying:

SO YOU WANT A MILITARY COUP TO OVERTHROW THE PRESIDENT

TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THE CONSTITUTION

Somewhat related:

428 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:38:47am

Kyiv Post, which was a great source of stories about Ukraine, has erected a paywall. I get it, but their timing stinks. : )

An explanation to Kyiv Post readers about our online paywall

kyivpost.com

429 Mattand  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:39:27am

re: #416 lawhawk

The shutdown was perpetrated by the GOP. John Boehner admitted as much way back in July 2013, when they had a handshake deal with Democrats on a budget, but the TP extortionists demanded nothing but a delay/destroy Obamacare scorched earth policy, and that’s what Boehner went with.

They failed, and it led to a shutdown.

A shutdown that affected more than National Parks and the monuments in DC.

It affected provision of care for seniors, and a whole host of other functions of government that people don’t pay much attention to except when it goes away.

Now, we’re about to get a farm bill deal, one that cuts food stamps, but not as drastically as the GOP demanded, but which also cut subsidies as well.

That’s taken as a positive, even though the food costs for people aren’t declining. It just means less food to be purchased by people who need the safety net at any time.

I know quite a few people who either outright blame Obama and the Dems for the shutdown, or Magic Balance Fairy the whole thing. Shit, I know a few that were calling for Obama to be impeached over it.

I wonder if Boehner, et. al., were counting on the American voter’s general inability to grasp complex issues to at least take some heat off of the GOP. From where I’m sitting, it seemed to work.

430 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:40:15am

Chop!

431 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:41:01am

re: #427 Lidane

Somewhat related:

[Embedded image]

Another Wonka meme:

432 Mattand  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:41:15am

re: #425 Lidane

Barack Obama had the gall to get elected POTUS. Twice.

Clearly, this is grounds for a military coup.

//////

The Presidenting While Black thingy has something to do with it as well.

433 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:41:43am

“I will pretend I have clean hands in all of this.” ////////////

Putin: Russia will not interfere in Ukraine’s internal affairs

kyivpost.com

(Not a complete story; just for the link.)

434 piratedan  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:46:26am

re: #429 Mattand

and so much of that can be laid squarely at the feet of our media, who are busy being stenographers or GOP water carriers….

Did we all hear about the travesty where Reid broke down and had to drop the hammer on the judicial and legislative appointments and rammed them through, thereby destroying the comity and protocols of the Senate, with nary a sideways glance at the fact that McConnell himself was the perpetrator who reneged on their agreement?

How much coverage did we get about the R’s new House rules changes that only allows amendments to bills and new bills to be introduced by the GOP?

People ask why aren’t the Dems doing anything? They are, but when you get one group going scorched earth all the time and the media doing NOTHING to expose what is taking place, ginned up outrage and people that work two-three jobs to just get by don’t have the time or sometimes the wherewithal to figure this shit out. Especially so when the Right apparently has the cash to set the narrative and framing on the four major public networks and all of AM radio.

435 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:47:36am

Democrats are so racist they elected the first black President.

436 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:48:07am
437 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:48:27am
438 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:49:46am

re: #435 Amory Blaine

Democrats are so racist they elected the first black President.

Yes, he is a RACIST president who wants to keep fellow blacks down on The Plantation.

/

439 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:51:45am

re: #435 Amory Blaine

Democrats are so racist they elected the first black President.

If I understand correctly, Democrats are racist because we elected a black President, because the only reason we did so was because he was black.

Not because McCain and Romney didn’t succeed in their campaigns, or a dozen other factors.

And somehow that last assumption is supposed to say something about the accused, not accuser.

Derp.

440 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:53:47am

I need to pick up a 6-pack of Rolex watches.

441 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:54:28am

No Erick, it’s the crazy right-wingers with Teh Putin-gasms who want to become MOAR SOVIET.

442 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:54:39am
443 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:55:26am

re: #429 Mattand

End the MBF shutdown myth. Boehner admits that he had a deal, and scuttled it because of the TP extortionists in his own caucus.

444 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:55:50am
445 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:55:52am

re: #440 Gus

I need to pick up a 6-pack of Rolex watches.

I’ve got a guy… /

446 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:57:20am
447 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:00:18am

re: #446 Gus

WTF does that even mean?

448 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:00:48am

re: #444 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Times I really do wonder if Erick thinks he’s winning over female voters with this shit. Then I remember that Erick also thinks that people pay attention to him for more than a few laughs.

449 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:01:16am

YEAH HE IS SO GOING TO LOSE THE 2016 ELECTION.

450 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:01:19am

re: #446 Gus

How much of the unfettered id of conservatism is too much?

451 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:01:32am

re: #447 Dr. Matt

WTF does that even mean?

I don’t know.

452 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:01:57am

The real question for tonight. How to arrange your SOTU drinking game.

453 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:02:29am

Matt Drudge exemplifies Obama Derangement Syndrome

454 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:02:44am

re: #452 lawhawk

The real question for tonight. How to arrange your SOTU drinking game.

[Embedded content]

Jobs.

455 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:02:53am

Setting it up so he can pretend he runs a 7 minute mile. Drudgie poo, what was you 2nd miles time?

456 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:03:16am

re: #454 Gus

Better just sip on that one.

457 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:03:23am

re: #452 lawhawk

The real question for tonight. How to arrange your SOTU drinking game.

[Embedded content]

Start out drunk and be passed out and catatonic by the end…

458 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:04:02am

re: #424 Amory Blaine

Going to Key Biscayne after the Mrs. gets her hair done. Got to turn the air down, getting chilly in here…

One more comment like that and I will personally insert a large garden gnome into your 4th point of contact.

Basil and the Gnome

RBS

459 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:04:15am

re: #452 lawhawk

“If Barack Obama class-wars the job creators and makers, by tyrannically asking them to pay their “fair share,” smash a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue on the floor so nobody else can have any.”

460 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:04:15am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

2017? This Troubled Heart must not be supporting the military coup. RINO. //

461 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:04:16am

re: #452 lawhawk

The real question for tonight. How to arrange your SOTU drinking game.

[Embedded content]

Maintain an even strain—there are 3 TPGOP responses.

462 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:05:20am

re: #452 lawhawk

The real question for tonight. How to arrange your SOTU drinking game.

If you want to stay sober, drink every time the GOP applauds one of Obama’s ideas.

If you want to get tipsy, drink when Obama says “Let me be clear”

If you want to get drunk, drink when the RWNJs tweet about teleprompters.

If you want to die of alcohol poisoning, drink at every bit of fail and derp in the GOP responses.

463 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:05:34am

re: #452 lawhawk

The real question for tonight. How to arrange your SOTU drinking game.

[Embedded content]

Take a shot every time he says “bipartisan.” You’ll be sober as a priest of Sunday by the time of the final applause.

464 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:05:40am

re: #446 Gus

Wonder what about Michelle bothers them so?

465 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:07:19am

re: #464 Bulworth

Wonder what about Michelle bothers them so?

Being First Lady while black.

466 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:08:23am

re: #458 RealityBasedSteve

Ha! Hey I’m from the frozen tundra of Milwaukee. :p

Take That!

467 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:08:43am
468 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:08:59am

Evidently, Kiev Post is continuing to give updates on the demonstrations. I thought this was noteworthy.

A Griffon officer leaves service because his father is a protester

6:25 p.m., Jan. 28 — A Griffon officer by the name of Mykola Kovbasa quit service in elite police troops because he does not want to shoot at his father, a protester.

Kovbasa said that although Griffon elite unit was created for guarding courts, after violent clashes on Hrushevskoho Street on Jan. 19-22 the unit was moved to reserve and waited to back up the troops.

He said the last drop for him was the video where his colleagues from Berkut, the riot police unit, torture a naked man. “I don’t want to have anything to do with the law enforcement organs,” he told Zik TV channel in Lviv. “To be honest, I feel ashamed that I used to work in interior organs.” He served in Griffon for four years.

He said although Griffon troops were not involved in clashes with civilians, they could have been given the order any minute. He said he could not have executed the order because his father has been on Maidan for three weeks.”Even if the order was not to use live ammunition, but to throw smoke grenades at the protesters. Knowing that my father was there, I could not do it,” he said. — Katya Gorchinskaya

kyivpost.com

I wonder if this will be a trend?

469 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:10:00am

re: #189 Chrysicat

Well, if you can ignore the IFV in the back—that’s pretty obviously post-1990…

That’s a BTR Armored Personnel Carrier (APC), not an IFV. Ukraine uses tracked BMPs as Infantry Fighting Vehicles, with the wheeled BTRs being used for operations against foes with few heavy weapons or ops requiring greater operational mobility.

Dealing with EuroMaidan is the former category. The BMP-2’s 30mm automatic cannon would be more destructive that is prudent and its AGTM launcher would be no use at all. Only its PKM 7.62mm machine gun would be useful and the BTR mounts one of those as well. This is likely one of the BTRs that can been refitted with a forward-hull-mounted 30mm automatic grenade launcher. Such a launcher can fire tear gas and rubber baton rounds, which are useful for riot control.

470 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:10:25am

re: #461 Decatur Deb

Maintain an even strain—there are 3 TPGOP responses.

They have stiff competition from the past:

471 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:55:56am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?

I thought the GOP was proud of their union-busting tactics.
/

472 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:58:41am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

YEAH HE IS SO GOING TO LOSE THE 2016 ELECTION.

He is so afraid of losing he won’t even run!

473 AlexRogan  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:31:47am

re: #461 Decatur Deb

Maintain an even strain—there are 3 TPGOP responses.

Funny you should say that…I just watched The Right Stuff last night.

474 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:35:53am

This weird, I can read in ‘spy’ mode, and I can comment in this thread, but I can’t pull up the comments directly in the current topic. I get the “no space in the internet” (or whatever it is) page. I’ve logged out and back in, refreshed, and…nothing.

475 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:39:33am

re: #474 calochortus

This weird, I can read in ‘spy’ mode, and I can comment in this thread, but I can’t pull up the comments directly in the current topic. I get the “no space in the internet” (or whatever it is) page. I’ve logged out and back in, refreshed, and…nothing.

The intertubes…they iz frozen…

476 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:40:28am

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not here in sunny CA. Well, actually it is a bit cloudy, but definitely not frozen.


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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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