Texas GOP Lt. Gov. Candidates Agree: More Religion Needed in Science Class

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Submitted without comment other than to notice how several of the candidates refer to evolution in schools as being part of a “politically correct” conspiracy.

From left: Sen. Dan Patrick, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples and Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson

Texas GOP Lt. Gov. Candidates Agree: More Religion Needed in Science Class

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461 comments

1 freetoken  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 9:18:54pm

File this one under “What Theocracy?”

2 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Jan 27, 2014 11:19:59pm

Thanks, Texas, for making it (again) clear that Christianity is the 2nd worst major religion on earth.

3 freetoken  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:43:53am

Monday the 27th there was another debate:

Youtube Video

Starts around 4:00 in.

4 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:12:27am

Worse, these people are proud of themselves and their ignorance.

5 nines09  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 6:45:51am

re: #4 Justanotherhuman
You can see it. Ignorance shining bright, ready to go forth and stupefy.

You want a picture of four men who are blindingly ignorant and full of themselves and damn proud of it? There it is. “The only climate change I see is the denial of God in our Science classes.”

6 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 8:13:37am

Instead of progressing on this issue, seems to me the Texas GOP is eager to stay in the dark ages. It’s quite sad really knowing the history of Scopes and all that. Clarence Darrow is rolling over in his grave knowing that we’re still fighting this nearly 90 years after the trial of John Scopes.

7 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:12:00am

Look at all that diversity up there. Two tall guys and two short guys!

8 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:12:45am

Two of them are missing pledge pins. Fail.

9 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:15:34am

MOAR SCIENCE NEEDED IN CHURCH!!!11

Oh wait.

10 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:15:35am

I see you just got promoted. Congrats.

Maybe you or Charles want to add the following to this - showing how states like Texas, Louisiana and Tennessee are destroying science curricula by introducing creationism into science classrooms.

(ed note): Not only introduced, but is actively funding with taxpayer funds the introduction of creationism in science classrooms.

11 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:15:49am

“The only climate change I see is the denial of God in our Science classes.”

Nobody puts G-d under the microscope.

12 Please Proceed  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:16:16am

re: #2 SidewaysQuark

Thanks, Texas, for making it (again) clear that Christianity is the 2nd worst major religion on earth.

What, in your opinion, is the worst major religion?

13 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:16:34am

re: #7 Targetpractice

Look at all that diversity up there. Two tall guys >and two short guys!

And two have red striped ties, and two have blue ties. Diversity!!!/

14 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:17:27am

I confess that I saw “Staples” and thought that was his sponsor.

15 The War TARDIS  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:17:33am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

He regularly bashes Islam on the pages.

16 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:17:48am

re: #13 lawhawk

And two have red striped ties, and two have blue ties. Diversity!!!/

I’m waiting for one of those yellow “power ties” from the ’80s.

Gawd, those things were cringe-worthy, but at least you knew who you were dealing with.

17 piratedan  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:17:48am

and the sad part is, millions of people are going to end up voting for one of these dipshits and when climate change fucks over their agriculture, dries up the rivers and lakes and more places like West blow up, the people are going to turn to one of the asshats and ask for guidance and all these guys are going to say is that we should put up a fence and read the bible.

18 Please Proceed  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:18:11am

re: #15 The War TARDIS

He regularly bashes Islam on the pages.

Thanks.

19 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:19:00am

Exhibit A why I will never, ever vote Republican in this state again.

I used to delude myself that by looking at the candidates individually instead of by party, I was doing a good thing. Not anymore. The Texas GOP are full of raving lunatics like this. I won’t vote for anyone with an (R) after their name again. If my only option in a race is a GOP candidate, I leave it blank.

Also, David Dewhurst’s political savvy explains why Ted Cruz is a Senator. Let that sink in a while.

20 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:21:36am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

What, in your opinion, is the worst major religion?

HURR HURR!!!1!!! ALL OF TEHM!!!!1!!!!

21 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:21:43am

re: #19 Lidane

Exhibit A why I will never, ever vote Republican in this state again.

I used to delude myself that by looking at the candidates individually instead of by party, I was doing a good thing. Not anymore. The Texas GOP are full of raving lunatics like this. I won’t vote for anyone with an (R) after their name again. If my only option in a race is a GOP candidate, I leave it blank.

Also, David Dewhurst’s political savvy explains why Ted Cruz is a Senator. Let that sink in a while.

At least you’re better than those who screamed “A pox on both houses!” and now natter on about the “duopoly” and how third parties can’t get an even break in major races because there’s a grand conspiracy to keep them from being seen as viable political parties.

22 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:23:02am

Obviously hand puppets. I see no strings.

23 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:28:13am

WTFITS

24 Tigger2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:28:33am

From Morning Joe.

Ouch: 80% of Americans don’t trust the GOP.
msnbc.com


I hope all that mistrust turns into votes for the Dems.

25 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:29:22am

Patterson expounds on the great education he got in public schools, then says there is no prohibition on prayer before class or a football game. In fact, I believe reciting the Lord’s Prayer before class damaged his education, since he believes such a silly thing.

26 allegro  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:29:39am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

Obviously someone who’s too dumb to own a business.

27 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:30:07am

re: #21 Targetpractice

At least you’re better than those who screamed “A pox on both houses!” and now natter on about the “duopoly” and how third parties can’t get an even break in major races because there’s a grand conspiracy to keep them from being seen as viable political parties.

I’ve never voted Republican on a national level and don’t plan to. On the state and local level, though, I used to read all the voter guides and try to “play fair” by tossing votes here and there to the GOP. That was a stupid idea. That kind of voting just enables these cretins and encourages them to let the stupid flow.

I’ll still read the voter guides on the various bond issues and resolutions and all that, but for the candidates, it’s cut and dried for me. Anyone but an (R). The “a pox on both their houses!” nonsense doesn’t interest me.

28 Tigger2  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:31:12am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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I would like to see them try and deny me my right to buy one.

29 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:31:28am

re: #26 allegro

Obviously someone who’s too dumb to own a business.

How is he even going to know who the customer voted for?

DUMB GUN SALESMAN: Who did you vote for?
CUSTOMER: Obama.
DUMB GUN SALESMAN: Get out of my store!

It would be more like:

DUMB GUN SALESMAN: Who did you vote for?
CUSTOMER: None of your fucking business.
DUMB GUN SALESMAN: What can I do for you?

30 blueraven  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:34:34am

re: #13 lawhawk

And two have red striped ties, and two have blue ties. Diversity!!!/

You know what that means…Purple!

31 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:36:15am

This Lt. Governor spectacle isn’t really about religion, unless political cowardice is a religion.

32 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:36:59am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

My immediate reaction is that the store owner is a dipshit.

33 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:37:15am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Bet they’re okay with Putin supporters though.

34 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:37:29am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

This interests me. If you are a gun shop owner, you in effect are a gatekeeper for the 2nd amendment. I consider it a violation of my right to bear arms. What if every gun shop in a city /state conspired to not sell to liberals or whatever?

35 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:38:23am

re: #34 Amory Blaine

This interests me. If you are a gun shop owner, you in effect are a gatekeeper for the 2nd amendment. I consider it a violation of my right to bear arms. What if every gun shop in a city /state conspired to not sell to liberals or whatever?

That is not the point, it is all about posturing and making a statement, even to the point of harming one’s own business.

36 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:39:19am

I’ll call Saul!

37 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:39:52am

+ re: #29 Pie-onist Overlord

How is he even going to know who the customer voted for?

DUMB GUN SALESMAN: Who did you vote for?
CUSTOMER: Obama.
DUMB GUN SALESMAN: Get out of my store!

It would be more like:

DUMB GUN SALESMAN: Who did you vote for?
CUSTOMER: None of your fucking business.
DUMB GUN SALESMAN: What can I do for you?

Yeah, but would you want to give an asshole like that your business in the first place? : )
+`+-

38 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:40:55am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

My reaction: S&W 66 $770 + MRI Baby Eagle $600+ Zastava M85 rifle $550 + reloading supplies and that’s just the plan for 2014? I bet the owner of my LGS is glad he isn’t that stupid.

39 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:41:27am

I thought they believed that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed..

40 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:42:21am

re: #24 Tigger2

From Morning Joe.

Ouch: 80% of Americans don’t trust the GOP.
msnbc.com

I hope all that mistrust turns into votes for the Dems.

Probably not. Too many people, perhaps most, think there is no difference between the parties. They also think that all politicians everywhere and for all time are utterly incompetent at best, absolutely evil at worst.

They supported the GOP generally because the GOP promised them the impossible: lower taxes, better services and smaller deficits/debt. Then the GOP went insane and these voters stopped voting for them. Next time they’ll vote for whoever promises the impossible again. The libertarians, probably.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:42:56am

I’m expecting Max Blumenthal to start posting HURR HURR!!!!! QUOTEZ FROM TEH TALMUD!!!1!!!!

42 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:43:33am

Snow blind! Urgh.

43 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:43:54am
44 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:43:58am

Bristol Palin is giving parenting advice to Wendy Davis on twitter. I’m not kidding….

45 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:44:38am

That’s not the first sign that has been spotted at a gun store.

46 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:44:57am

SOTUghazi!

47 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:45:31am

re: #39 Amory Blaine

I thought they believed that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed..

They read that Amendment as, “the right of Real Americans™ to bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Liberals aren’t Real Americans™.

48 piratedan  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:45:38am

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Bristol Palin is giving parenting advice to Wendy Davis on twitter. I’m not kidding….

always nice to have reaffirmation that the wingnut gravy train is fueled by nepotism…. and that irony is a feature, not a bug.

49 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:47:15am

Just wondering if any others think the little tweet/blog battle that broke out between Erick Erickson and Greta Van Susteren over Wendy Davis is any kind of signal that there may be a slow growing split of the completely whacky versus the mildly whacky going down at Fox and elsewhere?

Sometimes all it takes is a little daylight shining for a person to start to question others. Then once they begin to question they might start to look into questioning everything and that closer look may even start to influence their own thinking. The old “what the hell am I doing” self reflection.

I know it might be me hoping for something that isn’t there, but you never know. The other thing to think about is if it may start others to wonder and sides start getting chosen and then the boss (Roger Ailes) hears about it and he has to look into what is going on.

I’m know I am looking for molehills and straws but one can only hope.

50 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:47:32am

What is it about the right that makes people loudly and repeatedly tell you what they think about politics? I’ve noticed that the only friends of mine who consistently post about politics over and over and over and over on FB are Republicans. I don’t get it.

Oh, sure. They try and swear up and down that they’re independents or libertarians or “constitutionalists” but they always post RWNJ derp and always natter on about “Teh Left” and about how Obama is a horrible tyrant leading this country to ruin, and about how robots are going to replace everyone if the minimum wage goes up. And they don’t let you forget that they’re a Proud American.

WTF. Is there something in the water that triggers this on the right?

51 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:48:09am
52 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:48:25am

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Bristol Palin is giving parenting advice to Wendy Davis on twitter. I’m not kidding….

Bristol Palin is young enough to be Wendy Davis’s daughter. She needs to sit down and STFU.

53 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:48:36am

re: #21 Targetpractice

At least you’re better than those who screamed “A pox on both houses!” and now natter on about the “duopoly” and how third parties can’t get an even break in major races because there’s a grand conspiracy to keep them from being seen as viable political parties.

Reality, the grand conspiracy.

54 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:48:50am

Bryan must not be getting Teh Attentions he craves.

55 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:49:51am

re: #52 Lidane

Bristol Palin is young enough to be Wendy Davis’s daughter. She needs to sit down and STFU.

Bristol doesn’t have a cogent thought in her head. That’s Nancy French speaking in tongues.

56 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:50:56am

re: #50 Lidane

WTF. Is there something in the water that triggers this on the right?

Fluoride.

57 nines09  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:51:12am

re: #26 allegro

Obviously someone who’s too dumb to own a business.

Walk in and say you were looking to buy a few high end hunting rifles, but you just wanted him to know that you would not take a shit in his restroom with a sign like that on the door. Then thank him for being honest and showing his ignorance before giving him any business. Good day, Goober.

58 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:52:17am

It’s snowing in Kiev again and the bastard authorities have already hosed down most of the central streets where people are (will be 3 deg tonight, -13 tomorrow).

59 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:52:22am

BBL. Going down to the beach.

60 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:52:30am

re: #49 ObserverArt

Just wondering if any others think the little tweet/blog battle that broke out between Erick Erickson and Greta Van Susteren over Wendy Davis is any kind of signal that there may be a slow growing split of the completely whacky versus the mildly whacky going down at Fox and elsewhere?

Sometimes all it takes is a little daylight shining for a person to start to question others. Then once they begin to question they might start to look into questioning everything and that closer look may even start to influence their own thinking. The old “what the hell am I doing” self reflection.

I know it might be me hoping for something that isn’t there, but you never know. The other thing to think about is if it may start others to wonder and sides start getting chosen and then the boss (Roger Ailes) hears about it and he has to look into what is going on.

I’m know I am looking for molehills and straws but one can only hope.

I see it as the Balkanization of the GOP continuing apace. You have the split between the “mainstream” and the “conservatives,” who are further divided by how strongly they cling to one issue or another. When the Democrats had half their party go nuts, they broke ties with them and ran them out of the party on a rail. The GOP embraced them and is now watching as they burn the house down around themselves while pointing fingers for whose match is to blame.

61 nines09  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:53:19am

re: #50 Lidane

What is it about the right that makes people loudly and repeatedly tell you what they think about politics? I’ve noticed that the only friends of mine who consistently post about politics over and over and over and over on FB are Republicans. I don’t get it.

Oh, sure. They try and swear up and down that they’re independents or libertarians or “constitutionalists” but they always post RWNJ derp and always natter on about “Teh Left” and about how Obama is a horrible tyrant leading this country to ruin, and about how robots are going to replace everyone if the minimum wage goes up. And they don’t let you forget that they’re a Proud American.

WTF. Is there something in the water that triggers this on the right?

Yes. Stupidity and arrogance and complete lack of rational thinking. That and being a total asshole most of the time.

62 Mattand  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:53:32am

re: #49 ObserverArt

Just wondering if any others think the little tweet/blog battle that broke out between Erick Erickson and Greta Van Susteren over Wendy Davis is any kind of signal that there may be a slow growing split of the completely whacky versus the mildly whacky going down at Fox and elsewhere?

Sometimes all it takes is a little daylight shining for a person to start to question others. Then once they begin to question they might start to look into questioning everything and that closer look may even start to influence their own thinking. The old “what the hell am I doing” self reflection.

I know it might be me hoping for something that isn’t there, but you never know. The other thing to think about is if it may start others to wonder and sides start getting chosen and then the boss (Roger Ailes) hears about it and he has to look into what is going on.

I’m know I am looking for molehills and straws but one can only hope.

Maybe. My pet theory about Shep Smith is that he’s told to be Fox’s loose cannon; basically, it’s an act. From what I know about Fox News, the employees can’t go to the bathroom without Roger Ailes’s permission.

Maybe Van Susteren’s truly irritated with Erickson. The cynical part of me doesnt buy it. It just seems like receiving a paycheck from Fox implies that you’re going to supporting their dogma, or else.

63 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:54:04am

re: #61 nines09

Yes. Stupidity and arrogance and complete lack of rational thinking. That and being a total asshole most of the time.

And all in one neat little package. How efficient of them.

64 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:54:52am

Dim Jim defending his title of DUMBEST DUMBASS ON TEH INTERNETS

65 nines09  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:55:29am

re: #63 Targetpractice

And all in one neat little package. How efficient of them.

It resonates with them. It is them. It talks to them. They must post to enlighten you. They are wiser than you and wish to share their wisdom.

66 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:55:31am
67 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:55:51am

re: #39 Amory Blaine

I thought they believed that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed..

Government can’t infringe. They, as private citizens/businesses, think that it’s cute that they can do whatever they want, even if it means you can’t get your guns or ammo from their outlet.

68 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:57:40am
69 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 9:57:51am

7:15 p.m., Jan. 28 — Channel TVi released a video of the deadly Jan. 22 clashes between the police and the demonstrators on Hrushevsky Street, shot on the side of Berkut riot troops. Three protesters were shot to death: Serhiy Nihoyan, Michael Zhyznevskyy and Roman Senyk.

The six-minute footage taken at different stages of confrontation shows the work of the police against the demonstrators: they advance at the protesters, throw smoke grenades and shoot from various weapons. It shows how the troops were coordinated, and how they swear at protesters and call them “Banderas,” a reference to Stepan Bandera, leader of Ukrainian Insurgent Army in western Ukraine that during World War II fought for Ukraine’s independence.

The video seems to have been taken by one of the officers, but no description is available. —Katya Gorchinskaya

kyivpost.com

kyivpost.com

70 Mattand  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:00:15am

re: #64 Pie-onist Overlord

Every time I see Jim Hoft mentioned, I’m reminded of this quote from Wonkette by Stefan BC:

In a world of close to seven billion people, where the internet is exponentially becoming a greater part of people’s everyday lives, it is Hoft who deftly gazes upon the information around him and manages to shamelessly shit his pants publicly on a daily basis.

71 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:00:42am

re: #51 Pie-onist Overlord

evidence earth is less than 10,000 years old

That should be entertaining.

72 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:01:27am

re: #51 Pie-onist Overlord

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So… in other words, Tuesday.

73 Mattand  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:01:54am

re: #51 Pie-onist Overlord

Beyonce and satanism?

Part of me actually wants to hear that train wreck dissertation.

74 allegro  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:02:55am

Wheee! There be snowflakes outside my window! I saw 3 of them!

75 kerFuFFler  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:03:20am

re: #51 Pie-onist Overlord

Archaeologists have been studying the ruins of an impressive “temple” complex in Turkey (Gobekli Tepe) that dates to about 12,000 years old or twice as old as Sumeria. Some of these cretinous creationists just don’t have any sense just how much science needs to get tossed to accommodate their young earth foolishness———tree ring dating, radiocarbon dating, geology, paleontology.

All the scientists in the world are in a conspiracy with the devil to make it seem like life evolved. //

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:03:36am

re: #73 Mattand

Beyonce and satanism?

Part of me actually wants to hear that train wreck dissertation.

Beyonce is in a heterosexual marriage with a person of the opposite sex but the same race, and they have a child!

That is obviously Satanic, intended to confound the Faithful.

77 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:04:33am

re: #73 Mattand

Probably has something to do with her Grammy dress.

78 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:04:41am
79 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:05:42am

re: #74 allegro

Wheee! There be snowflakes outside my window! I saw 3 of them!

Yeah, they’re starting to fall here too. And now the weather guessers have bumped up their projections for our area from 6-8” to 10-12”. This only a week after we had 4” dumped on us.

In other words, I expect to wake up tomorrow with news coverage of SE Virginia waking up to all this white stuff on the ground and wondering if the world is coming to an end.

80 blueraven  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:05:43am

Gohmert! has invited Sean Hannity to be his guest at SOTU.

81 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:06:33am

re: #75 kerFuFFler

Archaeologists have been studying the ruins of an impressive “temple” complex in Turkey (Gobekli Tepe) that dates to about 12,000 BC or twice as old as Sumeria. Some of these cretinous creationists just don’t have any sense just how much science needs to get tossed to accommodate their young earth foolishness———tree ring dating, radiocarbon dating, geology, paleontology.

All the scientists in the world are in a conspiracy with the devil to make it seem like life evolved. //

Göbekli Tepe is an ancient site - quite something.

82 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:06:44am

re: #80 blueraven

Gohmert! has invited Sean Hannity to be his guest at SOTU.

What, is Nugent on tour and unable to be Louie’s date this time?

83 kerFuFFler  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:06:45am

re: #71 jaunte
“Evidence the world is less than ten thousand years old”

That should be entertaining.

But the only evidence they need is in the Good Book! They should not demean the question by looking to science for answers.//

84 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:07:39am
85 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:07:54am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

No Sale to Obama Supporters Sign in Gun Store

I’d love to have about $10,000 grand in cash and walk into that shop acting like you didn’t see the sign. Ask about some real nice items, say you have cash and flash the stack of bills. Get the salesperson drooling a bit then walk up to the counter to pay. Look at the sign, pick up the cash, turn and walk right out the door. Nothing heated said, just move on.

Yeah. Let’s see how much you hold that policy Mr. Tough Guy store owner.

86 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:08:46am

re: #77 jaunte

Probably has something to do with her Grammy dress.

She wuz falshing Illlllumnati signz!!! Stan!

87 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:09:56am

re: #77 jaunte

Probably has something to do with her Grammy dress.

She was wearing a dress?

88 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:10:11am

In other Texas news….

EDINBURG - Whether or not he knew a middle school was in his line of fire, that’s not the same thing as knowing there were children there, attorneys for Edinburg marksman Dustin Wesley Cook argued in a motion last week.

Cook, 38, is accused of accidentally shooting two students at Harwell Middle School in December 2011. The gunshots left Nicholas “Nicko” Tijerina, then 13, paralyzed and Edson Amaro, then 14, with serious internal organ damage.

Cook, who was target shooting in the direction of the school with a high-powered rifle a full mile away, faces trial Monday on charges of recklessly causing injury to a child.
themonitor.com

89 blueraven  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:10:14am

re: #82 Targetpractice

What, is Nugent on tour and unable to be Louie’s date this time?

That was one of the other idiot Republican TX reps…Steve Stockman

Nevertheless, Hannity and Gohmert should wear I’m with Stupid T-shirts

90 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:10:31am

re: #84 Pie-onist Overlord

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QUIT LYING YOU OBAMAUNIST LIBTARD. HE’S JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT AND AGENDA 21 TO START WORKING. TYPICAL DEMONCRAT.

91 kerFuFFler  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:12:31am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Göbekli Tepe is an ancient site - quite something.

Yeah, I’m blown away by the discoveries they are making at that site. National Geographic did a spread and there have been a couple TV shows about it but considering how amazing a site it is, it has gotten precious little popular attention. I can’t help but wonder if the fact that its age is in conflict with young earth theology has made some networks reluctant to feature it.

92 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:13:29am
[Cook’s attorney Michael Guerra] has long argued that the “reckless” charge against Cook is too harsh, saying that what happened was a freak accident in a rural area where the school was “getting rained on by bullets every day.”
93 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:15:29am

Charles - I just had a weird thing happen.

First, the ‘new comments’ button stopped working, so I reloaded the page and got trapped in a redirect loop.

Went back to the home URL and everything straightened out, so I dunno if it’s fixed, but figured you should know about it.

94 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:15:57am

re: #52 Lidane

Bristol Palin is young enough to be Wendy Davis’s daughter. She needs to sit down and STFU.

I feel sorry for her myself. She’s a product of child abuse.

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95 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:19:32am

re: #91 kerFuFFler

Yeah, I’m blown away by the discoveries they are making at that site. National Geographic did a spread and there have been a couple TV shows about it but considering how amazing a site it is, it has gotten precious little popular attention. I can’t help but wonder if the fact that its age is in conflict with young earth theology has made some networks reluctant to feature it.

Could be, unfortunately. And I can’t say it’d be a surprise. :(

96 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:20:37am

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

7:15 p.m., Jan. 28 — Channel TVi released a video of the deadly Jan. 22 clashes between the police and the demonstrators on Hrushevsky Street, shot on the side of Berkut riot troops. Three protesters were shot to death: Serhiy Nihoyan, Michael Zhyznevskyy and Roman Senyk.

The six-minute footage taken at different stages of confrontation shows the work of the police against the demonstrators: they advance at the protesters, throw smoke grenades and shoot from various weapons. It shows how the troops were coordinated, and how they swear at protesters and call them “Banderas,” a reference to Stepan Bandera, leader of Ukrainian Insurgent Army in western Ukraine that during World War II fought for Ukraine’s independence.

The video seems to have been taken by one of the officers, but no description is available. —Katya Gorchinskaya

kyivpost.com

kyivpost.com

That reminds me of a little occurrence that happened at a college in Ohio back in 1970.

97 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:21:00am

re: #92 jaunte

That sounds like a statement that needs some serious backup, or some serious backlash from a judge for daring to utter it.

All this sort of applies to the discussion yesterday about shooting range requirements (or lack thereof), and how/where said any requirements get enforced. Also sounds like Texas needs a felony “acting like a total idiot” law regarding activities that put others at risk.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:21:20am

Erick b. Erick is describing the kind of procedures that become necessary when a woman develops a life threatening complication that make it impossible for her to continue the pregnancy.

99 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:21:52am

re: #96 ObserverArt

That reminds me of a little occurrence that happened at a college in Ohio back in 1970.

If that occurrence was so important someone would have written a song about it by now.
/ ;)

100 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:22:30am

re: #97 Feline Fearless Leader

I think there was something yesterday about Florida’s lack of restrictions on backyard shooting, too.

101 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:22:40am

Faith in humanity semi restored. The road in front of my house is covered in ice and snow. It’s a slight down hill decline when you’re headed west. Three guys are out there watching and helping push cars that are getting stuck going up the hill. They must live in the neighborhood across the street. I was going to take the dog for a walk and one of them came up to us and said it really isn’t safe because of the cars sliding all over, they already had pushed a pickup truck off the sidewalk just a couple houses down.

Every now and then people surprise you. My big concern is The Husband getting home ok from work, and the kids being let out of school early. A lot of High Schoolers here drive to school, none of them have experience driving in snow. I am so glad I did my errands yesterday. People make fun of Atlanta shutting down when it snows 1/4 of an inch, but there is ice under all that snow (about 2 inches now), it’s really a mess. You know it’s bad when people are actually driving 10-15 miles an hour.

102 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:23:51am
103 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:24:10am

re: #93 makeitstop

Happened to me earlier. Think reloading and then logging in via https fixed the problem.

104 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:24:24am

Big Pine Key homeowner has gun range in his yard, and it’s totally legal

Read more here: miamiherald.com

105 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:26:57am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Put a couple grand worth of guns and ammo on the counter.

Look at sign.

Smile politely at shopkeep.

“Oh, whoops. Sorry guy/gal, didn’t see your sign there. Guess I’ll take my business somewhere where it’s welcome.”

106 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:27:09am

re: #84 Pie-onist Overlord

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If Obama was “just like Hitler” wouldn’t he have shut down Twitter by now?

No. Twitter would make it too easy to spot dissidents. Who needs wiretap and cameras on every telephone pole when your enemies can’t help but shout out how much they hate the tyrant?

Also, honey traps. Have one of the tyrant’s agents tweet about how evil the tyrant is and then hunt down those who agree with them.

The internet can make oppression as efficient as it does communication.

107 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:27:28am

re: #85 ObserverArt

I’d love to have about $10,000 grand in cash and walk into that shop acting like you didn’t see the sign. Ask about some real nice items, say you have cash and flash the stack of bills. Get the salesperson drooling a bit then walk up to the counter to pay. Look at the sign, pick up the cash, turn and walk right out the door. Nothing heated said, just move on.

Yeah. Let’s see how much you hold that policy Mr. Tough Guy store owner.

I might actually do that. There is reportedly a store in a nearby town with a similar sign: “No Obama Voters.” I know the subject well enough to pass for a high dollar gun buyer. I don’t much like the idea of carrying 10 grand in cash, but I could break out my robber-baron car to help the illusion. It needs some exercise anyway. Might ask for a Barrett .50 rifle to deal with the infernal hogs on my place (the accursed beasts really are there, too). For further cred, I’m old enough to absent-mindedly miss the sign on the way in, but not so senile that I wouldn’t notice it later.

108 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:33:39am

re: #38 William Barnett-Lewis

My reaction: S&W 66 $770 + MRI Baby Eagle $600+ Zastava M85 rifle $550 + reloading supplies and that’s just the plan for 2014? I bet the owner of my LGS is glad he isn’t that stupid.

We got a guy getting himself a Kalashnikov! William, don’t you know what that means? You’re buying a ‘scary Assault Weapon’! You’re going to have to turn in your Liberal Card and replace it with a Man Card!

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109 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:34:23am

re: #93 makeitstop

Charles - I just had a weird thing happen.

First, the ‘new comments’ button stopped working, so I reloaded the page and got trapped in a redirect loop.

Went back to the home URL and everything straightened out, so I dunno if it’s fixed, but figured you should know about it.

Same thing here. And now the new comments button isn’t updating.

111 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:37:41am

Check anti-virus software and javascript settings.

Using SSL will cause some to reject javascript which will then act weird.

112 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:38:38am

re: #107 Shiplord Kirel

The kicker with that sign is that it is not going to get him *more* business. If anything it will lose him business. So it sort of falls into the category of opening one’s mouth and proving you’re a fool rather than leaving it shut and having the issue still in doubt.

113 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:39:56am

Quick, everyone run and hide. And when Charles asks who broke the web site we can all say “not me, I didn’t touch it!”

114 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:40:25am

On a serious note, I’d like to ask the group for advice:

I just got offered a part-time job I’d interviewed for yesterday. While the offer is good news I’d need to attend training sessions tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday. They’re not all-day sessions, but attending them would mean I would have to not attend a job fair I had planned on attending tomorrow and I would need to either cancel or reschedule an interview set for Thursday.

Should I scrap going to the job fair and try to reschedule the interview, or should I see if there is a training class I could attend next week? I think the former is the correct course, but advice would help.

115 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:40:59am
116 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:41:31am

Except that it’s totally not true but HEY why let FACTS get in the way of a great meme?
Also: what about returning veterans who get fast food jrrbs, should they not be paid a decent wage?
HURR HURRRR!!!11!!!

117 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:41:36am

re: #110 jaunte

Senator Ted Cruz Files Amicus in Hobby Lobby [case] as Counsel of Record

Opportunity for political posturing: sighted and marked.

118 Please Proceed  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:43:37am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

On a serious note, I’d like to ask the group for advice:

I just got offered a part-time job I’d interviewed for yesterday. While the offer is good news I’d need to attend training sessions tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday. They’re not all-day sessions, but attending them would mean I would have to not attend a job fair I had planned on attending tomorrow and I would need to either cancel or reschedule an interview set for Thursday.

Should I scrap going to the job fair and try to reschedule the interview, or should I see if there is a training class I could attend next week? I think the former is the correct course, but advice would help.

A bird in the hand. Sounds glib but I would lean towards work rather than an interview. Plus it could work in your favor to say you have to change the interview because you have work. Plus I think job fairs are a joke.

119 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:43:58am

re: #112 Feline Fearless Leader

The kicker with that sign is that it is not going to get him *more* business. If anything it will lose him business. So it sort of falls into the category of opening one’s mouth and proving you’re a fool rather than leaving it shut and having the issue still in doubt.

That is similar to what I posted a few months ago regarding anyone that is publicly associated as the face of a business and then goes out and makes all kinds of strident political statements. You are asking to chase some customers.

120 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:45:30am

So, after not being able to pull up comments on this thread, suddenly I can again. Strange and wonderful are the ways of the internet.

121 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:47:34am

Oops. Wait. Not sure yet but I don’t think the NC shooting involved white people. Might explain the relative silence on Twitter.

122 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:48:00am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

On a serious note, I’d like to ask the group for advice:

I just got offered a part-time job I’d interviewed for yesterday. While the offer is good news I’d need to attend training sessions tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday. They’re not all-day sessions, but attending them would mean I would have to not attend a job fair I had planned on attending tomorrow and I would need to either cancel or reschedule an interview set for Thursday.

Should I scrap going to the job fair and try to reschedule the interview, or should I see if there is a training class I could attend next week? I think the former is the correct course, but advice would help.

If there is even a remote chance the part-time job could turn into a full time job, I’d consider going to the part time job. Who knows, your hard work could lead to something, and you do have a good lead by just being on the job part time. The other stuff is a big maybe and may not even be a lead.

123 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:51:53am

Don’t forget to check your pockets. You could have something in your pants that is interfering with the new SSL certificate.

124 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:52:15am

re: #120 calochortus

So, after not being able to pull up comments on this thread, suddenly I can again. Strange and wonderful are the ways of the internet.

It’s magic.

125 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:52:59am

re: #124 b_sharp

It’s magic.

That would be my understanding of it.

126 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:53:27am

A series of tubular magics.

127 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:53:57am

re: #123 b_sharp

Don’t forget to check your pockets. You could have something in your pants that is interfering with the new SSL certificate.

Kleenex? Who knew it was so powerful?

128 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:54:00am

wow

……………………..school

no quiero

…………………………..nuff smart doge

129 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:54:24am

January almost coming to an end. Good riddance.

130 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:55:20am

re: #110 jaunte

Senator Ted Cruz Files Amicus in Hobby Lobby [case] as Counsel of Record

Lobbying for Hobby Lobby. I just hope that if Hobby Lobby meets the disaster it is clearly courting the business whose products it sells don’t get hurt too bad. Catalyst Games Labs (which produces Battletech (which I play) and Shadowrun) has no products sold by Hobby Lobby so my favorite line would not be effected, but the damage the fall of Hobby Lobby could cause might damage the game stores I frequent and I’d hate to see that happen.

131 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:56:57am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Why would it damage other stores?

132 allegro  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:57:18am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Lobbying for Hobby Lobby. I just hope that if Hobby Lobby meets the disaster it is clearly courting the business whose products it sells don’t get hurt too bad. Catalyst Games Labs (which produces Battletech (which I play) and Shadowrun) has no products sold by Hobby Lobby so my favorite line would not be effected, but the damage the fall of Hobby Lobby could cause might damage the game stores I frequent and I’d hate to see that happen.

Hobby Lobby doesn’t sell games - it’s a crafts store.

133 Teukka  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:57:25am

re: #105 GunstarGreen

Put a couple grand worth of guns and ammo on the counter.

Look at sign.

Smile politely at shopkeep.

“Oh, whoops. Sorry guy/gal, didn’t see your sign there. Guess I’ll take my business somewhere where it’s welcome.”

Lather, rinse and repeat with different customers until message arrives at destination. — FTFY

134 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:57:27am

4 Shot At NC Church Playground: Boy Critically Wounded

ROCKY MOUNT, N.C. — Police in a North Carolina town are searching for a shooter who sprayed a church playground with gunfire, striking four youths playing basketball and critically wounding a 12-year-old boy.

The Rev. James Gailliard at Word Tabernacle Church in Rocky Mount says the shooting happened Monday shortly before 6 p.m., as neighborhood teens played basketball on courts behind the sanctuary.

The pastor says he heard more than 15 gunshots and then held a boy shot in the head until authorities arrived.

The child was taken to a hospital by helicopter, where he remained in critical condition. Police said the others shot - ages 13, 17 and 19 - were treated and released.

The shooting comes just more than a week after a 15-year-old boy was shot and killed nearby.

135 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:58:09am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

I think most of their stuff (crafts items) comes from China.

136 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:59:34am

re: #131 calochortus

re: #132 allegro

I’m going to guess he’s worried about a boycott of Hobby Lobby leading to decreased sales for paint manufacturers which he does use for miniatures.

Paint which is also sold at game stores, generally. And other hobby stores. And online.

Don’t worry, Dark, I’m not worried that a Hobby Lobby disaster will in any way affect the availability of my cross stitch supplies. Although it would be a good excuse to go reinforce the stash, but I don’t really need an excuse to do that. I just do it whenever I feel like it.

137 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:59:47am

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Except that it’s totally not true but HEY why let FACTS get in the way of a great meme?
Also: what about returning veterans who get fast food jrrbs, should they not be paid a decent wage?
HURR HURRRR!!!11!!!

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Soldiers in a hazardous nation get paid extra and their pay while there is not taxed. Moreover, they don’t pay for their health care while they’re deployed.

What a dumb, transparently dishonest meme.

138 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:02:14am

re: #136 klys

Wouldn’t a boycott or Hobby Lobby going out of business rather than comply (that would be the day…) give other outlets more business? It’s not exactly a monopoly.

139 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:03:08am

re: #132 allegro

Hobby Lobby doesn’t sell games - it’s a crafts store.

I know but they do sell models, which some the game stores also sell.

Make no mistake: I won’t cry any tears for Hobby Lobby as a business if it goes under and its owners are douche-canoes, but I’ll feel bad about the employees who lose their jobs and I do worry about the impact its fall might have on business that sell items both to HL and to game stores.

140 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:03:38am

re: #59 Amory Blaine

BBL. Going down to the beach.

Amory and lovely spouse on the beach (if there was ANY justice in the world…)

Really, though, hope you two are having a great time!

141 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:03:43am

re: #138 calochortus

Wouldn’t a boycott or Hobby Lobby going out of business rather than comply (that would be the day…) give other outlets more business? It’s not exactly a monopoly.

That would be the logical thought.

Which means I messed up in my thinking somewhere, clearly.

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ARGH MEMORY USAGE DIE DIE DIE. Ahem.

142 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:04:09am

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Soldiers in a hazardous nation get paid extra and their pay while there is not taxed. Moreover, they don’t pay for their health care while they’re deployed.

What a dumb, transparently dishonest meme.

Well that’s never stopped Republican rhetoric before, so.

143 allegro  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:04:44am

re: #138 calochortus

Wouldn’t a boycott or Hobby Lobby going out of business rather than comply (that would be the day…) give other outlets more business? It’s not exactly a monopoly.

Michael’s would be quite pleased by it. JoAnn probably too and a lot of small craft shops would be better able to survive. I’m for it. ;)

144 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:05:08am

re: #138 calochortus

It’s not exactly a monopoly.

That’s been my thought on their threat to shut down. They don’t have a unique product offering, so local stores could only be helped by them getting out of the market.

145 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:05:48am

Woohoo! Snow is starting to cover my balcony…

146 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:06:12am
147 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:06:20am

re: #93 makeitstop

Charles - I just had a weird thing happen.

First, the ‘new comments’ button stopped working, so I reloaded the page and got trapped in a redirect loop.

Went back to the home URL and everything straightened out, so I dunno if it’s fixed, but figured you should know about it.

I know - I’m having some issues with the new HTTPS code. But it should be straightened out now.

148 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:06:22am

re: #143 allegro

Michael’s would be quite pleased by it. JoAnn probably too and a lot of small craft shops would be better able to survive. I’m for it. ;)

I won’t lie, Michael’s gets my DMC purchases because the LNS wants $1 a skein versus like $0.40 at most at Michael’s.

And when you have almost 400 colors, it adds up. (I should have more than 400. At some point I will just bite the bullet and finish the colorway.)

But I go to the LNS for fabric and specialty fibers and beads.

149 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:06:46am

re: #138 calochortus

Yep. Not sure about other places in the country, but here in Atlanta there’s Michael’s Arts and Crafts, Jo Ann Fabrics(they carry some craft stuff) and I think we might still have Dick Blick stores here, I haven’t been in one for awhile though. Hell even WalMart carries craft and fabric/sewing stuff.

Our Hobby Lobby is a big thing for model train collectors, they have a huge model train display in the front of the store. But honestly, they don’t have anything that can’t be found anywhere else, especially online.

150 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:07:09am

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

I know but they do sell models, which some the game stores also sell.

Make no mistake: I won’t cry any tears for Hobby Lobby as a business if it goes under and its owners are douche-canoes, but I’ll feel bad about the employees who lose their jobs and I do worry about the impact its fall might have on business that sell items both to HL and to game stores.

I’d imagine they could find retail jobs just as good elsewhere. If HL goes out of business presumably one of the other chains will pick up the slack.
As an employer HL doesn’t get a lot of enthusiasm.

151 Good Morning  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:07:11am

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Food delivery is the most dangerous job. Most fast food restaurants are in more dangerous areas that say being deployed to a South Sea Island.

152 allegro  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:08:45am

re: #148 klys

I won’t lie, Michael’s gets my DMC purchases because the LNS wants $1 a skein versus like $0.40 at most at Michael’s.

And when you have almost 400 colors, it adds up. (I should have more than 400. At some point I will just bite the bullet and finish the colorway.)

But I go to the LNS for fabric and specialty fibers and beads.

I buy most of my yarn from JoAnn online when there’s a good sale and free shipping. Beat anyone else’s prices and selection.

153 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:09:01am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Okay, now that you’ve acknowledged that some people shouldn’t own guns, let’s talk.

154 Good Morning  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:09:03am

Lawmakers Consider Preventing ALL Marriage In Oklahoma
news9.com

Take that you Poofters, we’ll show you. Now all us straights are going to hold our breath until you Gays ….

155 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:09:34am
156 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:09:54am

re: #152 allegro

I buy most of my yarn from JoAnn online when there’s a good sale and free shipping. Beat anyone else’s prices and selection.

I spin most of my own knitting yarn (and some, but not most of my weaving yarn.) Just sayin’.

157 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:11:19am

re: #154 Good Morning

Lawmakers Consider Preventing ALL Marriage In Oklahoma
news9.com

Take that you Poofters, we’ll show you. Now all us straights are going to hold our breath until you Gays ….

Are they saying they won’t recognize any marriages from elsewhere? That will thrill a lot of citizens come tax time.

158 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:11:43am

re: #152 allegro

I buy most of my yarn from JoAnn online when there’s a good sale and free shipping. Beat anyone else’s prices and selection.

I have a local yarn store and since I am SO INCREDIBLY PICKY being able to go fondle the yarn in person has major pluses.

I will probably be putting in an order for a few more patterns and some beads/braid that the LNS hasn’t had in stock like three times now at my favorite online retailer. And there’s a new stand for needlework that has caught my eye…hmm.

If I have finished my program, I can plan to go up to Alameda and shop. BWHAHAHA.

159 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:13:04am
160 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:13:31am

re: #155 wrenchwench

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Predators crash every now and again, as the lack of direct human presence at the controls means that thinks that human pilot could overcome are fatal for a drone. They have much higher attrition rates than manned aircraft.

Groundings like this are routine after a crash while the operating agency figures out what went wrong.

161 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:14:12am

re: #158 klys

If I have finished my program, I can plan to go up to Alameda and shop. BWHAHAHA.

Because you don’t have enough of a stash? (Who ever has enough?)

162 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:15:42am

re: #148 klys

I don’t even think we have a HL around here. A few Michaels, some indy stores, but thats about it.

163 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:16:24am

re: #162 Kragar

I don’t even think we have a HL around here. A few Michaels, some indy stores, but thats about it.

That’s because we don’t live in real America.TM

164 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:16:36am

re: #161 calochortus

Because you don’t have enough of a stash? (Who ever has enough?)

I don’t keep a stash of pie fillings because they can get stale.

165 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:16:41am

re: #159 wrenchwench

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To be fair? Really? Starting a standoff with the cops?

166 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:17:10am

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Predators crash every now and again, as the lack of direct human presence at the controls means that thinks that human pilot could overcome are fatal for a drone. They have much higher attrition rates than manned aircraft.

Groundings like this are routine after a crash while the operating agency figures out what went wrong.

When they figured out this one could not get back to Arizona, they downed it in the ocean on purpose.

167 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:17:16am

re: #164 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t keep a stash of pie fillings because they can get stale.

Thankfully not a problem with yarn/thread and patterns.

Storage, on the other hand…

168 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:17:44am
169 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:17:47am

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

We got a guy getting himself a Kalashnikov! William, don’t you know what that means? You’re buying a ‘scary Assault Weapon’! You’re going to have to turn in your Liberal Card and replace it with a Man Card!

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The M85 is actually a Mauser based short action rifle in .22 Hornet. Sorry to disappoint you ;) For 7.62x39 I far prefer Comrade Simonov’s carbine of 1945 and have an excellent Norinco one.

170 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:17:56am

re: #165 Gus

To be fair? Really? Starting a standoff with the cops?

I don’t know exactly what he meant by that. Could have been conversing with another tweeter.

171 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:18:31am

re: #168 Gus

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OK, he’s a dudebro. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

172 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:18:37am

re: #170 wrenchwench

I don’t know exactly what he meant by that. Could have been conversing with another tweeter.

He’s another Greenwald stan and drone nut.

173 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:18:54am

re: #171 wrenchwench

OK, he’s a dudebro. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

:D

174 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:19:02am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

On a serious note, I’d like to ask the group for advice:

I just got offered a part-time job I’d interviewed for yesterday. While the offer is good news I’d need to attend training sessions tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday. They’re not all-day sessions, but attending them would mean I would have to not attend a job fair I had planned on attending tomorrow and I would need to either cancel or reschedule an interview set for Thursday.

Should I scrap going to the job fair and try to reschedule the interview, or should I see if there is a training class I could attend next week? I think the former is the correct course, but advice would help.

Attend the training. Bird in hand situation to my thinking.

175 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:19:37am

re: #159 wrenchwench

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Just as they have done in Iraq and Afghanistan, the advanced sensors of the Predator recon drone allowed allowed the raid team to locate when the miscreant was hiding within a structure. This permitted the team (in this case a civilian agency SWAT team) to use an approach and tactics that allowed them to apprehend the lawbreaker without anyone being hurt or killed.

As an aside, while I recognize and share the concerns many people have about the overuse of SWAT teams, this kind of ‘dangerous entry’ mission is a legitimate SWAT assignment.

176 calochortus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:20:07am

BBL

177 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:20:33am

re: #172 Gus

He’s another Greenwald stan and drone nut.

I hear him on the radio locally (NPR) and follow his tweets for border coverage.

I haz a disappoint.

One of my other similar followees went to Fox News Latino.

**sigh**

178 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:20:34am

re: #172 Gus

He’s another Greenwald stan and drone nut.

Nice of him to be “fair,” though.

179 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:21:27am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Just as they have done in Iraq and Afghanistan, the advanced sensors of the Predator recon drone allowed allowed the raid team to locate when the miscreant was hiding within a structure. This permitted the team (in this case a civilian agency SWAT team) to use an approach and tactics that allowed them to apprehend the lawbreaker without anyone being hurt or killed.

As an aside, while I recognize and share the concerns many people have about the overuse of SWAT teams, this kind of ‘dangerous entry’ mission is a legitimate SWAT assignment.

Nah. It’s all a 70s movie for the people and the bad guys are really good guys who are just misunderstood. //

180 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:21:53am

I mean, sure, the guy and his three sons pulled guns on the cops, but still, DRONES!!!

181 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:21:55am

re: #174 William Barnett-Lewis

Attend the training. Bird in hand situation to my thinking.

That was the suggestion of the other two folks here and the decision I reached. I’ve made the calls and was able to reschedule the interview for earlier on Thursday morning. I start training tomorrow.

182 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:22:33am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Just as they have done in Iraq and Afghanistan, the advanced sensors of the Predator recon drone allowed allowed the raid team to locate when the miscreant was hiding within a structure. This permitted the team (in this case a civilian agency SWAT team) to use an approach and tactics that allowed them to apprehend the lawbreaker without anyone being hurt or killed.

As an aside, while I recognize and share the concerns many people have about the overuse of SWAT teams, this kind of ‘dangerous entry’ mission is a legitimate SWAT assignment.

I have some concern about border enforcement resources being called upon by local law enforcement. I think too much of that leads to ordinary Americans getting unauthorized colonoscopies.

183 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:22:57am

re: #159 wrenchwench

Rodney Brossart was sentenced to three years in prison, of which all but six months was suspended, for a June 2011 incident in which police attempted to arrest him over his failure to return three cows from a neighboring farm that had strayed on to his property.

People just used to get shot for that.

184 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:23:55am

re: #159 wrenchwench

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I love that people will freak out because DRONES!!!! where as before, the same task would have still been done, except by spotter planes or helicopter and no one would have cared.

185 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:24:16am

re: #180 Charles Johnson

“So we could face a future where the skies are criss-crossed by police drones tracking suspected criminals, and in the process, spying on the rest of us. Which almost makes the rest of us suspected criminals.”

There it is! The ALMOST!

186 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:24:37am

re: #180 Charles Johnson

I mean, sure, the guy and his three sons pulled guns on the cops, but still, DRONES!!!

OMG! He got 6 months! For a police standoff! lol He should consider himself lucky.

187 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:25:19am

By the way, if you access the home page with https instead of http, it will load… but it’s not really going to work fully. I don’t recommend it yet.

The https features are only fully implemented for signing in and posting LGF Pages right now, and you don’t need to change anything.

188 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:25:58am

3 years. For terrorizing local police officers. Pfft.

189 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:26:43am

The orbital space above us is criss-crossed by satellites with powerful spy cameras, which can look into our back yards, and possibly read our license plates. Which almost makes us all suspected space criminals!!!!

190 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:27:12am

And he freaking stole cattle from his neighbor. Those charges were dropped.

191 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:27:47am

Brossart’s trouble began in 2011, when six cows wandered onto his property. After Brossart refused to return the cows to their owner, the Grand Forks, N.D., SWAT team was called in to arrest the man. What followed was a 16-hour, armed standoff that eventually ended when the SWAT team called in a Predator drone on loan from the Department of Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Patrol. The drone was able to locate Brossart and his three armed sons on the property and let police know it was safe it make to make an arrest. Brossart was allegedly tased during the arrest.

192 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:27:55am

re: #182 wrenchwench

I have some concern about border enforcement resources being called upon by local law enforcement. I think too much of that leads to ordinary Americans getting unauthorized colonoscopies.

Too much of it would be problematic, but to call for a drone after the standoff had already begun was reasonable and prudent. It was used only to perform surveillance on a group of people for whose leader the police already had an arrest warrant. That is a limited enough use to be justified.

193 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:28:07am

Three years. For an ARMED STANDOFF with the cops. Cry me a fucking river.

194 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:29:05am

re: #193 Gus

In Philadelphia they might have dropped a bomb on him.

195 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:29:24am

re: #191 Gus

Sure, it was a 16 hour armed standoff with SWAT teams, but DRONES!!!

196 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:29:31am

re: #159 wrenchwench

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So odd they would freak out over a drone when a helicopter or small plane would easily do the same thing. Fortunately for the Government these guys are not as smart as the kids that spoofed and took control of one for less that $1000 is gear.

197 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:29:52am

re: #186 Gus

OMG! He got 6 months! For a police standoff! lol He should consider himself lucky.

He’s lucky he didn’t get shot. In previous decades he probably would’ve been killed when the SWAT team had to take him head-on. Instead, he was only hit with a Taser, which did him no lasting harm.

Edited

198 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:30:13am

re: #187 Charles Johnson

By the way, if you access the home page with https instead of http, it will load… but it’s not really going to work fully. I don’t recommend it yet.

The https features are only fully implemented for signing in and posting LGF Pages right now, and you don’t need to change anything.

Would that also cause your New Comments button to not show a message like “3 New Comments” as it always did? Currently the button is not display a new comment count.

199 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:31:03am

re: #158 klys

I have a local yarn store and since I am SO INCREDIBLY PICKY being able to go fondle the yarn in person has major pluses.

I will probably be putting in an order for a few more patterns and some beads/braid that the LNS hasn’t had in stock like three times now at my favorite online retailer. And there’s a new stand for needlework that has caught my eye…hmm.

If I have finished my program, I can plan to go up to Alameda and shop. BWHAHAHA.

If you’re going to shop for yarn shouldn’t that be BAAAAWHAHAHA?

:p

200 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:31:18am

re: #195 Charles Johnson

Sure, it was a 16 hour armed standoff with SWAT teams, but DRONES!!!

Good thing he didn’t fire a warning shot in Florida. He would have gotten 20. This guy get 3 years for a 16 hour ARMED standoff with the cops and is lucky enough to get ONLY 3 years. But, DRONES, DRONES, DRONES!

Shocking. //

201 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:31:29am

re: #190 Gus

And he freaking stole cattle from his neighbor. Those charges were dropped.

They used to hang rustlers.

202 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:31:59am

re: #146 jaunte

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THE ERF IS ROUND???!!!

203 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:32:51am
204 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:33:01am

re: #162 Kragar

I don’t even think we have a HL around here. A few Michaels, some indy stores, but thats about it.

Only HL around here I know of is on one of the routes I take out to West Chester. Only been in there once since the crafts/modeling stuff they carry is borderline to my interests and the employee I encountered there was exceptionally rude to me in response to a question about whether or not they stocked a particular item.

205 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:33:04am

re: #193 Gus

Three years. For an ARMED STANDOFF with the cops. Cry me a fucking river.

And I just realized he linked to a Breitbart article.

Unfollow.

206 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:33:46am

re: #198 ObserverArt

I don’t know about that in particular, but like I say… it’s not supposed to work yet. You should still use the http address for now.

I’m not sure the extra overhead and loading time is worth the effort of making the entire site run under https.

207 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:33:58am

Dear America,

I apologize that the fathers of these four assholes didn’t pull out.

Regards,

A Native Texan (Me).

208 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:34:03am

re: #205 wrenchwench

And I just realized he linked to a Breitbart article.

Unfollow.

Eek! I didn’t notice that. Yep. Emoprogs aligning themselves with wingnuts. The wingularity has been breached. We’ve attained the Circle of Derp.

209 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:35:12am

re: #203 Kragar

Rep. Louie Gohmert calls for a tax increase on the poor, Tea Party crowd loves it bit.ly

I can’t wait until some of those same people realize they will get hit with the tax and they all begin to yell…

GOHMERT!!!

210 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:35:29am
211 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:36:31am

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Too much of it would be problematic, but to call for a drone after the standoff had already begun was reasonable and prudent. It was used only to perform surveillance on a group of people for whose leader the police already had an arrest warrant. That is a limited enough use to be justified.

It was also closer to Canada than to Mexico. I think they tend to be a little more hair-trigger down here.

I don’t have a drone problem, but I do have a problem with Republicans calling for further militarization of the border before they’ll pretend to show interest in immigration reform.

212 Jack Burton  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:37:16am

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Except that it’s totally not true but HEY why let FACTS get in the way of a great meme?
Also: what about returning veterans who get fast food jrrbs, should they not be paid a decent wage?
HURR HURRRR!!!11!!!

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Starting with a bullshit premise isn’t a good way to make a point, but then again most people are armed with weapons-grade confirmation bias and can’t be arsed to check anything.

In case anyone is wondering. In the US Army an E-1 private makes the equivalent of working a fulltime job at $8.85/hour at a bare minimum. This is base level cash here without calculating any benefits in, and assuming they are not actually deployed anywhere.

So it works out to be more than Federal minimum wage even without any benefits (which is about how many benes a minimum wage worker gets.)

213 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:37:22am

re: #119 ObserverArt

That is similar to what I posted a few months ago regarding anyone that is publicly associated as the face of a business and then goes out and makes all kinds of strident political statements. You are asking to chase some customers.

It doesn’t even have to be a strident statement, just an unpopular one.

A few years ago I was co-authoring a series of books. My co-author and I hung out at the same politics sub-forum at a popular writer’s hangout. Our politics were different (their’s was edging wingnut status) but it didn’t matter to me. They were a good writer and we’d been chatting on Yahoo for years. We got along.

Then I posted an opinion that made a lot of people’s heads explode at the writer’s board. My co-author then made it clear that they did not approve of me posting something that would chase customers away.

I tried to point out that a) their opinions posted on that board would also chase customers away, and, b) it’s part of the price a person pays for freedom of speech. A price I was willing to pay.

They were having none of it. My co-author made it clear I was never going to post a political opinion on-line anywhere ever again. If I felt I must they would have to read it first and if they disapproved it was not going to be posted. If I didn’t as they commanded they would kill the project and the excuse they would give is that my co-author could not work with someone so ‘unprofessional’.

In our society being labelled unprofessional is like being labelled a pedophile. For many people it’s an accusation that requires no proof and even those who do wait for evidence tend to have their perception of you warped.

So I knew the project was over. I don’t knuckle under to bullies. We finished the book we were working on and went our separate ways. They still spread the unprofessional rumour though.

It was my first inkling that those who label themselves ‘conservative’ seem to share a very different ethical framework from myself.

214 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:37:43am

GOHMERT YOU FREAKING DUMBASS

“What if you’re so poor that the only money you have is what the government gives you? I wondered, isn’t that wasting money, you give it and you take it back?” Gohmert pondered. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

They’re so poor BECAUSE THEY WORK AT JRRBS THAT DON’T PAY ENOUGH TO LIVE ON.

Dumbest dumbshit in congress repeating the myth that people who receive government assistance don’t work.

215 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:37:47am

re: #203 Kragar

Rep. Louie Gohmert calls for a tax increase on the poor, Tea Party crowd loves it

Imagine if they actually went ahead and did it, and the aforementioned Teabaggers finally figured out it was them that Gohmert! was talking about all along?

Nah, never mind. They’d just blame Obama.

216 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:38:20am

Guarantee you if this guy was black he would have gotten 8-10 years.

217 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:38:22am

I see that Senator Ted of Cruz was on the Senate floor today saying that there is a fine for hiring a citizen over an illegal immigrant. Where have we heard this before?

CORRECTION: That was in June, 2013. Sorry about that.

218 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:38:27am

re: #206 Charles Johnson

I don’t know about that in particular, but like I say… it’s not supposed to work yet. You should still use the http address for now.

I’m not sure the extra overhead and loading time is worth the effort of making the entire site run under https.

No big thing Charles. Just wondering because that is a nice feature for an idiot like me that seems to come late to the threads and starts quoting and commenting and I see the button is not updating a new post count and I realize…the world has moved…and I better move with it!

219 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:40:11am

re: #73 Mattand

Beyonce and satanism?

Part of me actually wants to hear that train wreck dissertation.

I’ve seen a couple of wingnut tweets today saying the same thing about Katie Price.

220 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:40:36am

re: #213 Romantic Heretic

It doesn’t even have to be a strident statement, just an unpopular one.

A few years ago I was co-authoring a series of books. My co-author and I hung out at the same politics sub-forum at a popular writer’s hangout. Our politics were different (their’s was edging wingnut status) but it didn’t matter to me. They were a good writer and we’d been chatting on Yahoo for years. We got along.

Then I posted an opinion that made a lot of people’s heads explode at the writer’s board. My co-author then made it clear that they did not approve of me posting something that would chase customers away.

I tried to point out that a) their opinions posted on that board would also chase customers away, and, b) it’s part of the price a person pays for freedom of speech. A price I was willing to pay.

They were having none of it. My co-author made it clear I was never going to post a political opinion on-line anywhere ever again. If I felt I must they would have to read it first and if they disapproved it was not going to be posted. If I didn’t as they commanded they would kill the project and the excuse they would give is that my co-author could not work with someone so ‘unprofessional’.

In our society being labelled unprofessional is like being labelled a pedophile. For many people it’s an accusation that requires no proof and even those who do wait for evidence tend to have their perception of you warped.

So I knew the project was over. I don’t knuckle under to bullies. We finished the book we were working on and went our separate ways. They still spread the unprofessional rumour though.

It was my first inkling that those who label themselves ‘conservative’ seem to share a very different ethical framework from myself.

Wow. That is sad. Sorry to hear it. I hope the best for you, and thanks for the comment. Something to consider here on out.

221 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:40:49am

re: #216 Gus

Guarantee you if this guy was black he would have gotten 8-10 years.

There aren’t many black farmers in North Dakota. Most of the black people in that state are involved with the new oil fields.

222 jaunte  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:41:22am

re: #217 Kid A

Texas immigration bill has big exception

Those who hire unauthorized immigrants would be in violation of the law — unless they are hiring a maid, a lawn caretaker or another houseworker.

223 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:42:01am

re: #222 jaunte

Texas immigration bill has big exception

Translation: The rich are in no danger of losing The Help.

224 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:42:45am

Anyone seen Obdicut around? He showed up for a few days after his concussion, then disappeared again. I got an email from him and we were supposed to talk again soon, then nothing.

225 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:42:47am

re: #134 Gus

4 Shot At NC Church Playground: Boy Critically Wounded

Hmmm. It sounds like there may be a serial killer at large. My first thought was these killing were racially motivated but my wife points out there isn’t any evidence to support that.

Still, four more human sacrifices for the religion known as America.

226 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:44:04am

re: #223 Targetpractice

Translation: The rich are in no danger of losing The Help.

“WE GOT TO DEPORT ALL THEM LAZY MEXICANS!”
“What about Nana?”
“Oh, well she is one of the good ones.”

227 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:46:47am

OH SHIT NOT AGAIN

228 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:47:17am
229 Jack Burton  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:47:32am

re: #206 Charles Johnson

I don’t know about that in particular, but like I say… it’s not supposed to work yet. You should still use the http address for now.

I’m not sure the extra overhead and loading time is worth the effort of making the entire site run under https.

What about limiting it to the login process and account management pages?

230 piratedan  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:47:59am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

That was the suggestion of the other two folks here and the decision I reached. I’ve made the calls and was able to reschedule the interview for earlier on Thursday morning. I start training tomorrow.

strangely enough, easier to find another job once you have a job, so working part time should increase your chances of employability.

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:48:25am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

My vote is to go with the part-time job training sessions.
Bird in the hand and all that corny stuff.

232 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:48:27am

re: #11 Bulworth

“The only climate change I see is the denial of God in our Science classes.”

Nobody puts G-d under the microscope.

Or Baby in a corner.

233 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:49:54am

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

What, in your opinion, is the worst major religion?

Twenty-five cents on Hoa Hao!

234 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:50:03am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Just as they have done in Iraq and Afghanistan …

FYI, never the best way to start a sentence regarding domestic law enforcement.

235 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:51:25am

re: #20 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!! ALL OF TEHM!!!!1!!!!

Side bet of a nickle on Seicho-no-le!

236 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:51:38am

re: #227 Pie-onist Overlord

OH SHIT NOT AGAIN

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It’s some manner of copycat phenomenon; people hear this on the news - and face it, it quickly becomes wall-to-wall coverage - or read it on the internet then the unstable ones out there think, “Hey. Here’s my 15 minutes” and go off and do it.

It becomes a self-feeding phenomenon.

237 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:52:15am

re: #235 chadu

Side bet of a nickle on Seicho-no-le!

Second side-bet of a nickle on Anabaptists!

238 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:52:46am

Jerry Patterson: “We should always err on the side of life”

His campaign website lists him as pro-death penalty.

So much for the side of life bit.

239 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:53:29am

Oh, fuck off.

240 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:53:52am

re: #34 Amory Blaine

This interests me. If you are a gun shop owner, you in effect are a gatekeeper for the 2nd amendment. I consider it a violation of my right to bear arms. What if every gun shop in a city /state conspired to not sell to liberals or whatever?

Because reasons, libtard.

///

241 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:55:23am

re: #238 Kragar

Jerry Patterson: “We should always err on the side of life”

His campaign website lists him as pro-death penalty.

So much for the side of life bit.

Come now Kragar, any good fisherman knows you let the small ones go and catch the big ones.

//

242 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:56:20am

re: #50 Lidane

Oh, sure. They try and swear up and down that they’re independents or libertarians or “constitutionalists” but they always post RWNJ derp and always natter on about “Teh Left” and about how Obama is a horrible tyrant leading this country to ruin, and about how robots are going to replace everyone if the minimum wage goes up. And they don’t let you forget that they’re a Proud American.

I found my new go-to reply:

243 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:56:42am
244 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:57:37am

re: #63 Targetpractice

And all in one neat little package. How efficient of them.

Go, Londo, go!

245 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:57:52am

File your 1040? No can do until 1/31. I was all ready to do my grandson’s since he got his W2, but the IRS is supposedly testing some stuff. Oh well, just a few days away.

246 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:58:00am
247 Jack Burton  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:58:56am

re: #50 Lidane

What is it about the right that makes people loudly and repeatedly tell you what they think about politics? I’ve noticed that the only friends of mine who consistently post about politics over and over and over and over on FB are Republicans. I don’t get it.

From what I can gather they think they are an oppressed minority on the Internet at least, and that’s why they think they need to speak louder and more often so they aren’t drowned out in a sea of liberalism… or some shit.

248 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 11:59:01am

re: #246 Kid A

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Palin wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if it bit her in the ass.

249 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:01:52pm
250 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:02:03pm

re: #116 Pie-onist Overlord

Except that it’s totally not true but HEY why let FACTS get in the way of a great meme?
Also: what about returning veterans who get fast food jrrbs, should they not be paid a decent wage?
HURR HURRRR!!!11!!!

[Embedded content]

I know. How do they keep themselves clothed, pay rent, buy food, get medical care, all that stuff making so little?

251 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:02:17pm
252 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:03:36pm

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

Should I scrap going to the job fair and try to reschedule the interview, or should I see if there is a training class I could attend next week? I think the former is the correct course, but advice would help.

Scrap the job fair; reschedule the interview.

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:03:38pm

HURR HURR!!!11!!!!!

254 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:04:25pm

re: #115 Gus

I’m so glad we don’t have a mass shooting problem in this country.

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255 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:05:32pm
256 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:06:46pm

re: #243 Kragar

Your tweet has been deleted by the Queen, lol.

257 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:07:43pm

re: #253 Pie-onist Overlord

He is one creepy looking fuck.

258 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:08:13pm

re: #154 Good Morning

Lawmakers Consider Preventing ALL Marriage In Oklahoma
news9.com

Take that you Poofters, we’ll show you. Now all us straights are going to hold our breath until you Gays ….

Who in the what-what?

259 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:09:25pm

re: #248 Justanotherhuman

Palin wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if it bit her in the ass.

Are you saying The Constitution bites?

260 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:09:43pm

re: #258 chadu

Who in the what-what?

Just when you think RWNJ’s can’t get any more insane, they prove you wrong.

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:10:14pm

re: #257 Kid A

He is one creepy looking fuck.

U RACIST!!!!1!!!

262 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:10:52pm

re: #203 Kragar

OFFS.

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:11:01pm

re: #149 A Mom Anon

Yep. Not sure about other places in the country, but here in Atlanta there’s Michael’s Arts and Crafts, Jo Ann Fabrics(they carry some craft stuff) and I think we might still have Dick Blick stores here, I haven’t been in one for awhile though. Hell even WalMart carries craft and fabric/sewing stuff.

Our Hobby Lobby is a big thing for model train collectors, they have a huge model train display in the front of the store. But honestly, they don’t have anything that can’t be found anywhere else, especially online.

Oh, I miss having a Dick Blick store nearby. Had one when I lived in Illinois.

264 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:11:18pm

re: #12 Iwouldprefernotto

What, in your opinion, is the worst major religion?

Islam, duh. Do you really have to ask?

265 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:11:33pm

re: #229 Jack Burton

What about limiting it to the login process and account management pages?

That’s actually what it does right now. The sign-in process goes through https, and I’m working on doing the same for account settings.

266 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:11:34pm

Israel jails anti-Zionist for offering to spy for Iran

Yitzhak Bergel, 46, pleaded guilty to charges of contacting a foreign agent, intent to commit treason and attempting to aid an enemy of Israel.

But the court ruling noted that “no damage had been done to the state”.

Bergel belongs to the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta, an ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect which is vehemently opposed to the State of Israel’s existence.

Its members believe a Jewish state can only be established by the Messiah.

Tuesday’s court ruling said that in 2011 Bergel flew to the German capital, Berlin, where he contacted the Iranian embassy and offered to collect intelligence about Israel.

He then stayed in contact with Iranian diplomats after returning to Israel.

267 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:12:51pm

re: #247 Jack Burton

From what I can gather they think they are an oppressed minority on the Internet at least, and that’s why they think they need to speak louder and more often so they aren’t drowned out in a sea of liberalism… or some shit.

That’s the funny part to me - they’ll post the most condescending shit about ‘libtards’ and act all superior, but once you push back and point out how wrong they are, they’ll pivot in a second and start talking about how mean you are.

They love the victimhood is what it boils down to, be it real or imagined.

268 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:13:45pm

re: #243 Kragar

Governor Palin is no stranger to Executive (Administrative) Orders. In her term, she gave ‘em too. Her Orders run from 236 to 249.

Among the more interesting ones: One called for Alaska to prepare for climate change.

269 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:14:11pm

/awaiting the inevitable comment about the political-correctness brigade.

270 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:14:36pm

re: #264 SidewaysQuark

Islam, duh. Do you really have to ask?

Nice splash damage there —- Over 1.5 billion muslims on Earth, and there really is no reason to smear the vast majority of these people with the actions of Islamic extremists.

271 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:14:43pm

re: #264 SidewaysQuark

Rudest unbanned poster we have.

Congratulations.

272 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:15:18pm

re: #268 lawhawk

Governor Palin is no stranger to Executive (Administrative) Orders. In her term, she gave ‘em too. Her Orders run from 236 to 249.

Among the more interesting ones: One called for Alaska to prepare for climate change.

You deserve a place on the LGF Mount Rushmore for this. This is just fucking amazing.

273 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:15:43pm

re: #264 SidewaysQuark

Islam, duh.

You would find more friends at Pamela Geller dot com.

274 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:16:38pm

re: #255 Gus

Kincannon actually tweeted that?!?!

ENGAGE: FURY.

275 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:17:40pm

re: #274 chadu

Kincannon actually tweeted >that?!?!

ENGAGE: FURY.

He’s posted worse crap than that.

276 Kid A  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:19:25pm

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s posted worse crap than that.

Yeah, that is tame for him. He is a total asshole.

277 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:19:34pm

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s posted worse crap than that.

He is seriously starting to damage my calm.

278 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:19:55pm

re: #268 lawhawk

That’s completely different because

279 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:20:21pm

re: #276 Kid A

Yeah, that is tame for him. He is a total asshole.

Do not insult assholes by calling him one. Assholes perform a valuable body function.

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:20:51pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

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Love the eyeroll action happening at the far right in the photo.

281 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:21:14pm

re: #272 Kid A

You deserve a place on the LGF Mount Rushmore for this. This is just fucking amazing.

Item 10 from that Palin executive order is definitely against present day GOP dogma:

In view of its purpose, the Climate Change Sub-Cabinet shall develop recommendations on the following:

10. the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning;

282 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:22:16pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Love the eyeroll action happening at the far right in the photo.

In 1951 that was probably the equivalent of hollering ‘You lie!’

283 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:22:59pm

re: #273 Pie-onist Overlord

You would find more friends at Pamela Geller dot com.

I’d have to say People’s Temple of the Disciples of Christ certainly ranks up there with the worst of the bad religious movements. Of course, they’re now defunct, and well, we all know why *cough* Jim Jones *cough*.

Can’t forget the Branch Davidians, either - they may be around yet, though most likely even more isolated than they were before.

Aum Shinrikyo was pretty bad, and believe it or not, they’re still around; nowadays, they’re known as Aleph, and they’ve disavowed Shoko Asahara and his nuttiness.

The Raelians are sort of weird…..definitely a UFO religion.

Interestingly, the Nation of Islam and Scientology seem to be merging; at the very least, they are cooperating quite a bit. Farrakhan has called L. Ron Hubbard “Brother L. Ron Hubbard”. That’s an interesting one to watch.

The Moorish Science Temple is another odd bunch…..they seem to be embracing the Sovereign Citizen Movement.

284 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:23:04pm

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

You can thank the shutdown for that. The deadline was originally 1/21, but was pushed back due to the GOP shutdown; the IRS uses the October-December period to prepare for the next year’s tax filing season, updating rates, tables, and incorporating tax law changes as well as confirming e-filing compatibility.

That said, it makes sense for most people to hold off filing until after 1099s are mailed/received in February.

285 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:23:12pm

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s posted worse crap than that.

I’ve said it before - it amazes me that haters like him don’t end up catching an epic beating sooner or later. He must be very careful not to leave friendly territory.

286 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:24:42pm

re: #285 makeitstop

I’ve said it before - it amazes me that haters like him don’t end up catching an epic beating sooner or later. He must be very careful not to leave friendly territory.

Wait—Kincannon or Quark??

/

287 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:25:35pm
288 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:26:39pm

re: #274 chadu

Kincannon actually tweeted >that?!?!

ENGAGE: FURY.

Here you go:

Todd Kincannon Shows What the Tea Party Really Thinks of Wendy Davis

289 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:27:03pm

re: #287 Kragar

Figuratively. /

Fischer’s in the hate-trolling business. He’d hate if the trolling stopped, because it would mean he’s off his meal-ticket. And that’d be one bear of a mess for him to accept.

290 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:27:34pm

re: #289 lawhawk

Figuratively. /

I figured.

291 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:28:37pm

usnews.nbcnews.com

Colorado farmers whose cantaloupe farm was discovered as ground zero for a 2011 listeria outbreak were sentenced to 5-years probation, 6-month home arrest, and $150,000 each in restitution.

292 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:29:14pm

re: #284 lawhawk

You can thank the shutdown for that. The deadline was originally 1/21, but was pushed back due to the GOP shutdown; the IRS uses the October-December period to prepare for the next year’s tax filing season, updating rates, tables, and incorporating tax law changes as well as confirming e-filing compatibility.

That said, it makes sense for most people to hold off filing until after 1099s are mailed/received in February.

I thought companies had until 1/31 to mail those 1099s out; that’s always been the case as far as I know.

293 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:29:28pm

I like how I can buy a t shirt for 2 dollars, but if I go to the fabric store to assemble my own it’s like $50.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:29:38pm

re: #258 chadu

Who in the what-what?

That’s an interesting solution. Sure the churches will appreciate it. As will the IRS and insurance companies since they will then be able to collect more money.

295 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:30:22pm

re: #270 EPR-radar

Nice splash damage there —- Over 1.5 billion muslims on Earth, and there really is no reason to smear the vast majority of these people with the actions of Islamic extremists.

It’s only a handful of extremists who are responsible for terrorism, but if you think it’s only a “handful of extremists” responsible for the backward social and legal policies spanning from Libya to Bangladesh, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken.

Of course, only Islam seems to gets the voracious defense to criticism of religion on this site. (It must be that “magical balance fairy” everyone talks about, that automatically requires all religions to be equal in outcome and results.)

296 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:31:02pm

re: #293 Amory Blaine

What fabric store are you shopping at?

297 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:31:02pm

This has to be one of the stupidest wingnut memes ever.
HURR HURR!!!1!!!

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:31:22pm

re: #269 klys

/awaiting the inevitable comment about the political-correctness brigade.

Under Obama they’ve grown in numbers and are now organized in divisions.
/

299 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:31:31pm

re: #296 A Mom Anon

Joanne’s

300 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:31:55pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

Wait—Kincannon or Quark??

/

Take your pick. :)

No, seriously - Kincannon.

301 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:32:01pm

re: #297 Pie-onist Overlord

This has to be one of the stupidest wingnut memes ever.
HURR HURR!!!1!!!

[Embedded content]

Oh for Fucks sake.

302 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:32:07pm

Nobody ever carried a pregnancy to one week before term and then had an abortion “just because.”

303 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:32:43pm
304 Ryan King  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:32:47pm

re: #2 SidewaysQuark

Thanks, Texas, for making it (again) clear that Christianity is the 2nd worst major religion on earth.

Let me salute your douchery with a hearty atheist fuck you.

305 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:33:40pm
306 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:33:57pm

re: #302 Pie-onist Overlord

Nobody ever carried a pregnancy to one week before term and then had an abortion “just because.”

Pro-lifers are detached from reality

307 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:34:48pm

re: #292 Justanotherhuman

My mistake. Read from the wrong column (had too many things going on at once).

308 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:35:07pm

HURR HURR!!!1!!! U COMMUNIST BABY KILLER!!!!!

309 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:36:06pm

HAHA, I win over memory usage. My alloc operations now come in below the sample solution and runtime is roughly equal. WINNING.

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:36:23pm

re: #295 SidewaysQuark

It’s only a handful of extremists who are responsible for terrorism, but if you think it’s only a “handful of extremists” responsible for the backward social and legal policies spanning from Libya to Bangladesh, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken.

Of course, only Islam seems to gets the voracious defense to criticism of religion on this site. (It must be that “magical balance fairy” everyone talks about, that automatically requires all religions to be equal in outcome and results.)

You didn’t paint far enough east. Malaysia and Indonesia are also majority Muslim. And I don’t see backward social and legal policies being monopolized by the area you picked out either.
///

311 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:36:51pm

This is George. He runs the house.

312 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:36:54pm
313 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:37:06pm

re: #308 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!! U COMMUNIST BABY KILLER!!!!!

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…I missed the part where she bullied a paraplegic.

Unless using a figure of speech to point out that, just like she hasn’t lived his life, he hasn’t lived hers is bullying.

314 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:37:32pm

re: #305 SidewaysQuark

You give atheists a bad name. I wish you would keep your mean-spirited ideas to yourself.

315 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:39:12pm

re: #287 Kragar

Next on Fischer: Faust: Documentary or Journalism?

316 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:39:53pm

re: #281 EPR-radar

Item 10 from that Palin executive order is definitely against present day GOP dogma:

Thing is, Palin most likely has no clue about that executive action. Someone else wrote it and she wouldn’t be able to explain in any sort of detail if her life depended upon it.

317 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:40:07pm

OK! The account settings page now uses https, with the padlock icon and everything.

318 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:40:10pm

re: #311 Amory Blaine

This is George. He runs the house. [Embedded image]

Tough guy! Cool looking cat you got there.

319 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:40:17pm

re: #314 wrenchwench

You give atheists a bad name. I wish you would keep your mean-spirited ideas to yourself.

Militant Atheists, the moral equivalents of Religious Fundamentalists i.e. complete fucking assholes.

320 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:40:36pm

Uh oh.

321 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:41:11pm

re: #295 SidewaysQuark

It’s only a handful of extremists who are responsible for terrorism, but if you think it’s only a “handful of extremists” responsible for the backward social and legal policies spanning from Libya to Bangladesh, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken.

Of course, only Islam seems to gets the voracious defense to criticism of religion on this site. (It must be that “magical balance fairy” everyone talks about, that automatically requires all religions to be equal in outcome and results.)

The world is basically religious, atheists being a rather small minority. So there is no observable evidence to support a simple-minded “atheism good, religion bad” viewpoint.

There is also no evidence for an equally simple-minded “religion X good, religion Y bad” viewpoint, as long as X and Y aren’t ridiculous death cult outliers. History shows that the relative levels of civilization in regions dominated by different religions varies over time very significantly. This observation is fatal to theories based on inherent properties of religions making them somehow better/worse.

322 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:42:44pm

re: #289 lawhawk

Figuratively. /

Fischer’s in the hate-trolling business. He’d hate if the trolling stopped, because it would mean he’s off his meal-ticket. And that’d be one bear of a mess for him to accept.

(high-hat; rimshot)

Well-played.

323 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:42:54pm

Hmm.

I’m trying to figure out if the “magical balance fairy as the reason for the defense of Islam on this site” invocation counts for my “political correctness” invocation on the bingo card.

Opinions?

324 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:43:13pm

Reese’s Peanut butter cups [x]

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:44:15pm

re: #311 Amory Blaine

This is George. He runs the house. [Embedded image]

Looks like a firm, yet fair, supervisor.

326 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:44:29pm

re: #293 Amory Blaine

I like how I can buy a t shirt for 2 dollars, but if I go to the fabric store to assemble my own it’s like $50.

I sewed a lot in my youth because it was cheaper, and the clothes were much better than bought ones if you were a good tailor. Cheap clothes fell apart in no time, so a lot of us sewed.

Have you priced a sewing machine lately? And material? At 17, I remember buying wool jersey for $2/yd and it was 54 in wide. It took 2 yds to make my first dress and only that much because of the way I had to cut the material. And I lined the entire dress to wear without a slip. A size 10 pattern had a 32” bust measurement, iirc. I bought a suit when I was 17 that was nothing like today’s size 5—after all, I weighed 95 lbs and had 32” hips!

327 Ryan King  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:44:30pm

re: #320 Gus

Uh oh.

(looks around sheepishly, shrugs)

328 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:45:04pm

re: #295 SidewaysQuark

It’s only a handful of extremists who are responsible for terrorism, but if you think it’s only a “handful of extremists” responsible for the backward social and legal policies spanning from Libya to Bangladesh, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken.

Of course, only Islam seems to gets the voracious defense to criticism of religion on this site. (It must be that “magical balance fairy” everyone talks about, that automatically requires all religions to be equal in outcome and results.)

FWIW, I haven’t seen many people tarring all Mormons for the views of the extremist polygamist sects of the LDS here.

(The rank-and-file Mormons get tarred for stuff on their own tip, yo.)

329 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:45:08pm
330 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:45:15pm

re: #321 EPR-radar

The world is basically religious, atheists being a rather small minority. So there is no observable evidence to support a simple-minded “atheism good, religion bad” viewpoint.

There is also no evidence for an equally simple-minded “religion X good, religion Y bad” viewpoint, as long as X and Y aren’t ridiculous death cult outliers. History shows that the relative levels of civilization in regions dominated by different religions varies over time very significantly. This observation is fatal to theories based on inherent properties of religions making them somehow better/worse.

You put more thought into that than Quark has ever put into a comment.

331 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:45:35pm

re: #327 Ryan King

(looks around sheepishly, shrugs)

I hadz mah Reese’s. All gone.

332 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:45:36pm

re: #295 SidewaysQuark

Go eat a bag of dicks.

333 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:46:16pm

re: #323 klys

Hmm.

I’m trying to figure out if the “magical balance fairy as the reason for the defense of Islam on this site” invocation counts for my “political correctness” invocation on the bingo card.

Opinions?

Close enough for bigotry.

334 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:46:24pm

re: #292 Justanotherhuman

I thought companies had until 1/31 to mail those 1099s out; that’s always been the case as far as I know.

1/21 was when the IRS would start processing returns.

335 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:47:26pm

re: #332 Dr. Matt

Go eat a bag of dicks.

Would that count as cannibalism?

336 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:47:28pm

re: #297 Pie-onist Overlord

This has to be one of the stupidest wingnut memes ever.
HURR HURR!!!1!!!

[Embedded content]

I love how they never question why someone would go through the discomfort and issues of carrying a fetus for 36 weeks, just for shits ‘n giggles, before aborting it.

Like pregnancy is a 24/7 freaking party with unicorns farting rainbows of Skittles or something.

337 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:48:02pm

What an accomplishment!

338 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:48:19pm

339 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:48:56pm

re: #336 chadu

I love how they never question why someone would go through the discomfort and issues of carrying a fetus for 36 weeks, just for shits ‘n giggles, before aborting it.

Like pregnancy is a 24/7 freaking party with unicorns farting rainbows of Skittles or something.

HURR HURRRRR!!!!! RUSH SAID SO!!11!!!!

340 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:49:19pm

I have a fan. :)

341 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:50:05pm

re: #332 Dr. Matt

Go eat a bag of dicks.

You got your dick in my peanut butter!!

342 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:50:49pm

re: #308 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!! U COMMUNIST BABY KILLER!!!!!

[Embedded content]

So—it’s OK for Mitt Romney’s 200 sons (yeah, I can use hyperbole, too) to campaign for him, but Wendy Davis’s 2 daughters can’t refute the lies about her?

Fer chrissakes…that’s the Rs for ya.

343 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:50:52pm

re: #336 chadu

I love how they never question why someone would go through the discomfort and issues of carrying a fetus for 36 weeks, just for shits ‘n giggles, before aborting it.

Like pregnancy is a 24/7 freaking party with unicorns farting rainbows of Skittles or something.

In terms of laws, however, I would not support an abortion ban even if it were directed only to this mythical case of abortion for the hell of it at 36 weeks - 1 day.

With such a law on the books, the RW nut jobs would simply enact a 37 week waiting period and declare victory.

IMO, a reasonable system of medical ethics is sufficient to prevent anything of this kind that really shouldn’t happen.

344 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:51:05pm

re: #341 Amory Blaine

You got your dick in my peanut butter!!

Hey! Leave Reese out of this. What he ever do to you?

345 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:51:15pm

re: #337 Pie-onist Overlord

I tells ya, without steveworksforyou in this Congress, we wouldn’t no longer have a Constitutional Republic. //

346 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:51:38pm

re: #340 Pie-onist Overlord

I have a fan. :)

[Embedded content]

Seems like a nice, stable person with no bias.

347 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:51:44pm

Just to keep Charles usefully employed, my “New Comments” counter has stopped updating.

348 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:51:44pm

I miss Mr. Whipple.

349 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:52:07pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

Would that advice be contingent on the kind of feed used?

350 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:52:26pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Just to keep Charles usefully employed, my “New Comments” counter has stopped updating.

Oddly enough, mine just starting working (Mac/Safari here).

351 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:52:26pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Just to keep Charles usefully employed, my “New Comments” counter has stopped updating.

Reload, grasshopper.

352 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:52:31pm

re: #348 Amory Blaine

I miss Mr. Whipple.

A charmin sentiment.

353 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:52:34pm

re: #329 Kragar

Satan doesn’t have better things to do?

354 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:54:32pm

re: #351 wrenchwench

Reload, grasshopper.

Did we empty the numeral hopper?

355 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:54:39pm
356 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:54:41pm

re: #309 Pie-onist Overlord

This one sounds like a real keeper. //

357 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:55:20pm

I hate how pro lifers depict as abortion seeking women as flippant, uncaring and almost excited about ending a pregnancy. I’m reasonably certain virtually no woman has ever been excited to get an abortion.

358 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:56:15pm

I see a Hoops logged in.

359 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:57:10pm

Probably needs the warmth from his monitor. :p

360 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:57:34pm

re: #358 klys

Requesting air delivery of hot chocolate and dog biscuits?

361 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:58:46pm

A monument honoring Gavrilo Princip to be built in Belgrade

362 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:59:49pm

re: #297 Pie-onist Overlord

This has to be one of the stupidest wingnut memes ever.
HURR HURR!!!1!!!

[Embedded content]

At 37 weeks, or anywhere near that, I believe what happens is an actual birth not an abortion. Especially when the mother’s health is in jeopardy, the protocol is birth the baby (usually via C-section) ASAP so the medical team can focus on the mom ASAP.

But that would just be getting logic in the way of a wingnut meme…

363 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 12:59:51pm

re: #361 Gus

A monument honoring Gavrilo Princip to be built in Belgrade

Wait, isn’t that the guy who started WW1 by assassinating the Archduke of something?

Millions died. What a hero!

364 chadu  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:00:06pm

re: #340 Pie-onist Overlord

I have a fan. :)

[Embedded content]

I’d be really interested to see how these projectionist RWNJ assbags would react to an actual hate-mongering “liberal.”

I mean, someone who just takes their own attacks and replaces “liberal” targets with “conservative” ones.

365 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:00:24pm

re: #363 Pie-onist Overlord

Wait, isn’t that the guy who started WW1 by assassinating the Archduke of something?

Millions died. What a hero!

Yep.

366 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:00:49pm

re: #358 klys

I see a Hoops logged in.

YAYS!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait, maybe it’s Winston…

367 allegro  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:01:19pm

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate how pro lifers depict as abortion seeking women as flippant, uncaring and almost excited about ending a pregnancy. I’m reasonably certain virtually no woman has ever been excited to get an abortion.

Oh, I dunno, It’s something to do before the malls and beauty shops open in the mornings. We get bored sooooo easily having nothing else to do while Uncle Sugar pays our bills and all. /////

368 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:01:20pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

YAYS!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait, maybe it’s Winston…

Good point.

369 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:01:22pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

At 37 weeks, or anywhere near that, I believe what happens is an actual birth not an abortion. Especially when the mother’s health is in jeopardy, the protocol is birth the baby (usually via C-section) ASAP so the medical team can focus on the mom ASAP.

But that would just be getting logic in the way of a wingnut meme…

Pre-eclampsia and Eclampsia are life-threatening conditions that can occur during late pregnancy. The pregnancy has to be terminated immediately, by delivery.

370 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:01:58pm

Gavrilo Princip (Serbian Cyrillic: Гаврило Принцип, pronounced [ɡǎʋrilɔ prǐntsip]; 25 July [O.S. 13 July] 1894[2] - 28 April 1918) was a Bosnian Serb who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, on the northern end of the Latin Bridge in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914.[3] Princip and his accomplices were arrested and implicated by a number of members of the Serbian military, leading Austria-Hungary to issue a démarche to Serbia known as the July Ultimatum.[4] This was used as pretext for Austria-Hungary’s invasion of Serbia, which then led to World War I.[5] Princip was a Yugoslav nationalist associated with the movement Mlada Bosna (Young Bosnia) which predominantly consisted of Serbs, but also Bosniaks and Croats.[6] During his trial he stated “I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be freed from Austria.”[7]

371 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:02:11pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

YAYS!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait, maybe it’s Winston…

With a list of non-negotiable demands.

372 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:03:01pm

Lovely.

373 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:03:04pm

Price of Democracy.

Youtube Video

374 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:03:05pm

re: #371 Decatur Deb

With a list of non-negotiable demands.

Milk bones?

375 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:03:46pm

re: #372 Pie-onist Overlord

Lovely.

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Yes, because daughters coming to their mom’s defense is so Alinsky!

376 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:03:49pm

re: #369 Pie-onist Overlord

Pre-eclampsia and Eclampsia are life-threatening conditions that can occur during late pregnancy. The pregnancy has to be terminated immediately, by delivery.

Exactly.

377 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:03:59pm

re: #374 Gus

Milk bones?

A space heater.

378 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:04:02pm

re: #372 Pie-onist Overlord

Lovely.

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Kim Rogers is probably a made up name. I think it was a line of Kmart (or some store) clothes at one time.

379 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:04:03pm

re: #289 lawhawk

Figuratively. /

Fischer’s in the hate-trolling business. He’d hate if the trolling stopped, because it would mean he’s off his meal-ticket. And that’d be one bear of a mess for him to accept.

It’s quite likely that Fischer does believe in a literal Devil who can literally buy literal souls.

380 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:04:41pm

re: #363 Pie-onist Overlord

Wait, isn’t that the guy who started WW1 by assassinating the Archduke of something?

Millions died. What a hero!

To be fair to Mr. Princip, the causes of WW1 have much more to do with European great power nonsense of the time than with the assassination of the arch-duke.

Still, erecting a monument to an assassin is in bad taste, even for ultra-nationalist idiots.

381 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:04:52pm

re: #379 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

It’s quite likely that Fischer does believe in a literal Devil who can literally buy literal souls.

He knows because he did it.

382 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:05:03pm

re: #377 klys

A space heater.

Dog boots and a canine vest.

383 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:05:16pm

re: #377 klys

A space heater.

A replacement “X” for the Scrabble set.

384 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:05:23pm

Make that dog booties.

385 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:05:25pm

re: #382 Gus

Dog boots and a canine vest.

A move to FL.

386 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:06:24pm

re: #383 Decatur Deb

A replacement “X” for the Scrabble set.

New headphones for the iPod.

387 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:06:33pm

heh, now THIS would be a gamechanger…

388 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:06:39pm

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

He knows because he did it.

Literally?

389 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:07:25pm

I blocked Kim. Too lame to reply to.

390 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:07:39pm

Greetings from the North Woods
It’s too cold with too much snow here. Yes..Hell froze over. Winston isn’t a happy camper with temps so low it only takes minutes for frostbite to set in. Hopefully all will work out for us. We had the world championship of snowmobile racing last week here. You all know I love racing so it was pretty ‘cool’ I’ll admit watching a race during the summer is much more enjoyable.

391 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:08:24pm

re: #389 Pie-onist Overlord

I blocked Kim. Too lame to reply to.

The last task for his RWNJ Victimhood merit badge.

392 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:08:32pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

You picked a hell of a year/month for your introduction to living there full time.

393 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:08:39pm

re: #238 Kragar

Jerry Patterson: “We should always err on the side of life”

His campaign website lists him as pro-death penalty.

So much for the side of life bit.

Juries never make mistakes.

394 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:09:09pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

Welcome to Wisconsin!

-_-

395 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:09:12pm

Suddenly the dog starts screaming, “Attica! Attica! Attica!”

Never seen anything like it.

396 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:09:47pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

IT’S ALIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!

397 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:10:02pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

>Greetings from the North Woods
It’s too cold with too much snow here. Yes..Hell froze over. Winston isn’t a happy camper with temps so low it only takes minutes for frostbite to set in. Hopefully all will work out for us. We had the world championship of snowmobile racing last week here. You all know I love racing so it was pretty ‘cool’ I’ll admit watching a race during the summer is much more enjoyable.

Hey You!!!
Talk about yer baptism by frozen polar vortex. You’ll be able to handle anything that ever heads your way EVER AGAIN.

398 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:11:31pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

>Greetings from the North Woods
It’s too cold with too much snow here. Yes..Hell froze over. Winston isn’t a happy camper with temps so low it only takes minutes for frostbite to set in. Hopefully all will work out for us. We had the world championship of snowmobile racing last week here. You all know I love racing so it was pretty ‘cool’ I’ll admit watching a race during the summer is much more enjoyable.

3 words: All Wheel Drive.

399 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:12:18pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

>Greetings from the North Woods
It’s too cold with too much snow here. Yes..Hell froze over. Winston isn’t a happy camper with temps so low it only takes minutes for frostbite to set in. Hopefully all will work out for us. We had the world championship of snowmobile racing last week here. You all know I love racing so it was pretty ‘cool’ I’ll admit watching a race during the summer is much more enjoyable.

You do know that “Wis-conn-sin” is Algonquian for “Snow never melts” don’t you?
:D

400 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:13:02pm
401 abolitionist  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:13:16pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Just to keep Charles usefully employed, my “New Comments” counter has stopped updating.

You might try logging out, and back in.

402 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:13:52pm

re: #400 Kragar

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That would be 4, no?

403 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:15:32pm

re: #400 Kragar

What a bunch of maroons these GOPers are. They really do think that having N different people deliver the same message (Obama and the Democrats are evil, lower taxes, deregulation, and all war all the time) is worth doing.

404 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:15:42pm

Ahem.

405 dog philosopher  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:15:49pm

re: #238 Kragar

Jerry Patterson: “We should always err

fxt

406 GeneJockey  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:15:59pm

re: #402 Decatur Deb

That would be 4, no?

“Look at me! Look at me!”

Where are the ‘Republicans In Disarray’ articles?

407 klys  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:16:51pm

re: #400 Kragar

Brilliance from the comments:

Michelle Bachmann’s response will be airing on UHF channel 59 and Andrew Breitbart will respond via Ouija Board controlled by James O’Keefe and Ann Coulter.

408 Please Proceed  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:17:31pm

re: #403 EPR-radar

What a bunch of maroons these GOPers are. They really do think that having N different people deliver the same message (Obama and the Democrats are evil, lower taxes, deregulation, and all war all the time) is worth doing.

Yes they do.

409 GeneJockey  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:17:49pm

re: #404 Gus

Ahem.

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[Sean Connery]”Jusht like a Wop, bringing a knife to a goon fight.”[/Sean Connery]

410 GeneJockey  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:18:54pm

re: #407 klys

Brilliance from the comments:

But who’ll do the Magic 8-Ball?

“Answer hazy. Ask again later.”

411 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:19:06pm

The Fail Derp Quartet.

412 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:19:22pm

Getting family reports on Central Alabama weather—I-65 and I-20 have turned into a clowncar derby.

413 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:19:46pm

re: #403 EPR-radar

What a bunch of maroons these GOPers are. They really do think that having N different people deliver the same message (Obama and the Democrats are evil, lower taxes, deregulation, and all war all the time) is worth doing.

Gives you more choices to latch onto as your reason to hate Obama and the Dems.
///

414 Kragar  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:19:58pm
415 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:21:12pm

re: #396 wrenchwench

IT’S ALIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!

LOL…One positive thing. Currently all I have is over the air TV. Between PBS, BBC and Create TV I’ve become smarter than F*ck. I brought a 100 DVD’s here, watched them all. Now It’s PBS or boredom. Missed all of you and hope today finds you well

416 GeneJockey  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:21:59pm

They’ll all boil down to “Whatever It Is, I’m Against It”, which I’d embed but I have not the foggiest notion how.

417 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:22:35pm

Granddaughter’s school has hunkered down with a couple (unprepared) hundred kids stranded, because schoolbusses couldn’t hack it. Teachers on suicide watch.

418 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:22:39pm

re: #400 Kragar

He’s not in congress anymore, right? Just checking. Just asking questions…

419 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:23:56pm

HURR HURR!!!11!!!

420 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:23:57pm

How about more science in religion classes!

421 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:24:49pm

re: #400 Kragar

He’s not even in Congress, and he’s going to to deliver a response? Hah!

Well, that’s going to take away from the Rand Paul response. And the official GOP response by back-bencher Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers.

And Ted Cruz.

The only thing missing for the GOPers this year is the streaker running across the stage or setting themselves alight.

And the NYT notes that these responses have not done what the speakers have intended - used it as a springboard for the Presidency themselves. The closest one gets is Bill Clinton, who appeared in a documentary-style rebuttal that the Democrats did before they went to a straight speech response.

Several GOPers who’ve done these rebuttals have won nominations, but have lost in the ensuing general election.

So even the higher profile wont help most. It’ll just be drowned out in the cacophony of mindless banter following the SOTU by pundits who want to push their own brand.

422 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:24:50pm

Ah wait. Here’s why the media is ignoring the NC shooting.

Lewis said it is too early in the investigation to know whether the latest shooting involved a gang-related dispute, but Gailliard said there is a widespread suspicion in the community that Monday’s mass shooting was in retaliation for the recent drive-by killing.

also:

“In our community, we do hear gunshots from time to time. But what was different this time was that it was so close and it was so many,” Gailliard said. “I held him in my arms until the paramedics got there. He was shot in the eye and the bullet went out the back of his brain. He was struggling to breathe, but he was fighting.”

The silence is stunning.

423 leftynyc  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:24:54pm

re: #403 EPR-radar

What a bunch of maroons these GOPers are. They really do think that having N different people deliver the same message (Obama and the Democrats are evil, lower taxes, deregulation, and all war all the time) is worth doing.

All it really does is show how fractured they are. I saw a good point this morning (can’t remember where) - they have a woman rep giving the “official” response and it would have been great if they had just put a WOMAN out there and said, she speaks for us. But no, they have to step all over her toes - the messaging is pathetically predictable.

424 Please Proceed  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:25:30pm

re: #419 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!

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I’ll pay for your ammo when you pay for all the damage caused by responsible gun owners.

425 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:26:23pm

re: #424 Iwouldprefernotto

I’ll pay for your ammo when you pay for all the damage caused by responsible gun owners.

Doesn’t your jrrb provide gun insurance?

426 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:26:24pm

re: #412 Decatur Deb

Getting family reports on Central Alabama weather—I-65 and I-20 have turned into a clowncar derby.

That was pretty much a given, right?

427 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:27:13pm

re: #426 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was pretty much a given, right?

Yup. Doesn’t stop amateur snow drivers from trying.

428 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:27:31pm

re: #419 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!11!!!

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ammunition = healthcare.

got it…

429 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:28:55pm

Sometimes liberals can get a meme wrong.
A U.S. citizen marrying a non-citizen DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVE THE SPOUSE CITIZENSHIP. It would only move them up for a Green Card.

430 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:32:24pm

There was no “school shooting” in Hawaii. Not in the recent “school shooting” sense. This is what happened…

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -

A 17-year-old boy suspected of being an outstanding runaway was shot by police on the campus of Roosevelt High School in Honolulu on Tuesday morning after allegedly stabbing a Honolulu police officer and punching two others, according to Honolulu Police Department officials.

17-year-old shot, HPD officer stabbed on Roosevelt High School campus

431 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:33:18pm
432 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:34:55pm

But of course the fringers will think the cop is the bad guy anyway.

433 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:39:04pm

re: #394 Amory Blaine
threw the shovel as far as I could

Welcome to Wisconsin!

-_-

Never saw this coming. My ego thought I could just move to the North Woods and be an instant stud woodsman. It didn’t take long outside trying to shovel my car out that within minutes I Threw the shovel as far as I could cursing like a sailor. Later I had to go back out and find the damn thing.
I have been humbled and laid low by mother nature.

434 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:40:48pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

You’re confusing Hobby Lobby, which is a crafting store, and Hobby Town. which sells games, model kits, etc,

435 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:41:03pm

re: #429 Pie-onist Overlord

Sometimes liberals can get a meme wrong.
A U.S. citizen marrying a non-citizen DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVE THE SPOUSE CITIZENSHIP. It would only move them up for a Green Card.

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And the scrutiny / approval process such couples face is fierce, insultingly invasive, and to a degree unconscionably arbitrary.

436 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:41:52pm

Break out the armchair police officers!

437 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:42:13pm

On this day in 1986, 73 seconds after liftoff…
I refer to remember the crew rather than the spectacular disaster.

Crew of Space Shuttle Challenger

438 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:44:06pm

re: #433 HoosierHoops

Yep, it’s not as easy as it looks. Stay warm and spend the spring gathering what you need for the next winter. Talk to the neighbors and observe what they do. The North Face makes some really nice cold weather gear. And buy a freaking snowblower dude, the hell with that shoveling crap. Glad to hear you and Winston are safe and well.

439 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:44:13pm
440 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:44:23pm

This country’s gone nuts.

441 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:46:12pm

re: #433 HoosierHoops

threw the shovel as far as I could

Never saw this coming. My ego thought I could just move to the North Woods and be an instant stud woodsman. It didn’t take long outside trying to shovel my car out that within minutes I Threw the shovel as far as I could cursing like a sailor. Later I had to go back out and find the damn thing.
I have been humbled and laid low by mother nature.

When I was six, we moved from Wisconsin to southern California. For years I told people I missed the snow.

442 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:47:45pm

Yay! I sold a bike.

It’s been a while…

443 Gus  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:48:24pm

After police encountered the young man in a school office, he “became combative” and struck two of the officers, the spokesman said.

The 17-year-old pulled out a knife and “began slashing” the officers, the spokesman said. An officer fired two shots at the boy before subduing him.

Three officers received minor injuries.

Emergency Medical Services Division told the Honolulu Star-Advertiser a 17-year-old boy was shot in the wrist and was taken to the local hospital.

Shocking! How dare those cops…blah, blah, blah.

444 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:49:26pm

re: #433 HoosierHoops

threw the shovel as far as I could

Never saw this coming. My ego thought I could just move to the North Woods and be an instant stud woodsman. It didn’t take long outside trying to shovel my car out that within minutes I Threw the shovel as far as I could cursing like a sailor. Later I had to go back out and find the damn thing.
I have been humbled and laid low by mother nature.

So, you’re saying that Winston pretty much said “You threw that shovel…go fetch it yerself” as he headed back indoors to curl up in front of the fireplace…

445 Lidane  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:49:50pm
446 GeneJockey  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:52:09pm

re: #441 wrenchwench

When I was six, we moved from Wisconsin to southern California. For years I told people I missed the snow.

I don’t miss that shit. It’s pretty in an abstract sense, but my parents had a 200’ side walk that legally had to be shoveled, as well as a 100 foot driveway and turnaround, and 75 feet of driveway going under the carport.

447 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:52:40pm

re: #439 Gus

It’s a little worse than that. Not New York snow, but understand, we have practically NO snow removal equipment here, including sand and salt trucks. My husband is 5 miles from home and cannot get here because the roads are totally clogged with people inching their way home. It’s not only snow, there’s a layer of ice under it. If you don’t have rear wheel drive, your car slides all over the place. There’s 3 inches of snow in my yard right now, it’s supposed to stop here in a couple of hours. The road in front of my house has had bumper to bumper traffic for the last 4 hours. Some people have run out of gas and are pulling up on the sidewalks and leaving their cars to walk the rest of their way home.

I’m a bit worried about The Husband, he is a diabetic and needs his meds in a few hours. I just hope he has access to some food.

448 GeneJockey  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:52:43pm

re: #445 Lidane

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Lolwhut?

449 Bulworth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:52:46pm

re: #445 Lidane

Alan Keyes not making sense.

450 dog philosopher  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:54:05pm

re: #449 Bulworth

Alan Keyes not making sense.

but very articulately

451 gwangung  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:54:44pm

re: #449 Bulworth

Alan Keyes not making sense.

Remember, he was the genesis of the crazyfication factor.

452 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:56:00pm

We had a snowstorm so bad 3 years ago that I had to slide my car sideways and rammed it into a snowbank 6 blocks from my house to get it off the street.

453 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:58:42pm

The plow was worthless on our block the city had to bring in an end loader to remove the snow like a week later.

454 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 1:59:42pm

re: #446 GeneJockey

I don’t miss that shit. It’s pretty in an abstract sense, but my parents had a 200’ side walk that legally had to be shoveled, as well as a 100 foot driveway and turnaround, and 75 feet of driveway going under the carport.

At six, the hardest thing I had to do was walk to school in the white canyon created when the sidewalks were shoveled. Had to look up for clues to my location.

455 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:11:12pm

re: #446 GeneJockey

I don’t miss that shit. It’s pretty in an abstract sense, but my parents had a 200’ side walk that legally had to be shoveled, as well as a 100 foot driveway and turnaround, and 75 feet of driveway going under the carport.

I have a dirt driveway (pretty much the length of a football field or more), vaguely covered in scattered gravel, with multiple huge bodies of water covering it.
Right now, it’s pretty much ice.
It will stay that way until Spring decides to arrive…

(Bonus is that JW will not be attempting to get to my front door…)

456 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:13:49pm

re: #422 Gus

Ah wait. Here’s why the media is ignoring the NC shooting.

Lewis said it is too early in the investigation to know whether the latest shooting involved a gang-related dispute, but Gailliard said there is a >widespread suspicion in the community that Monday’s mass shooting was in retaliation for the recent drive-by killing.

also:

“In our community, we do hear gunshots from time to time. But what was different this time was that it was so close and it was so many,” Gailliard said. “I held him in my arms until the paramedics got there. He was shot in the eye and the bullet went out the back of his brain. He was struggling to breathe, but he was fighting.”

The silence is stunning.

How horrific.

I wonder what a lot of the no-gun-control people would think after they had to hold that boy? It’s real easy to have a tough stand if you never actually have a feel for something like that.

And by feel I will use myself as an example. I’ve never had to hold a child recently shot by a gun. But as an artist with a very active imagination and a deep memory of other accidents and close calls and seeing people scared of death, etc., I can really put myself in that place and “feel” the horror and the sadness, the fear in his eyes. Yes I can imagine it and it freaks me right the hell out.

Sometimes I wish other had that ability to feel something like that, maybe some of the thinking would change.

(shudder)

457 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:16:54pm

re: #78 Pie-onist Overlord


Give me that old time pseudoscience!

458 simoom  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:17:21pm

Some weird bits from the recent ARD Snowden interview:

ndr.de

Q: How narrow is the co-operation of the German Secret Service BND with the NSA and with the Five Eyes?

A: I would describe it as intimate. As a matter of fact the first way I described it in our written interview was that the German Services and the US Services are in bed together.

“Written interview”? A pre-interview?

Q: The question is: does the BND deliver data of Germans to the NSA?

A: Whether the BND does it directly or knowingly the NSA gets German data. Whether it’s provided I can’t speak to until it’s been reported because it would be classified and I prefer that journalists make the distinctions and the decisions about what is public interest and what should be published.

Either this means, “I have no idea, and so I’m BSing here”, or he has placed a truly bizarre constraint on himself, where his bulk dumping is made less egregious because Greenwald and Poitras’ publishing decisions somehow absolves him of responsibility for leaking or putting any effort into vetting his leaks.

Q: Does the NSA spy on Siemens, on Mercedes, on other successful German companies for example, to prevail, to have the advantage of knowing what is going on in a scientific and economic world.

A: I don’t want to pre-empt the editorial decisions of journalists but what I will say is there’s no question that the US is engaged in economic spying.

If there’s information at Siemens that they think would be beneficial to the national interests, not the national security of the United States, they’ll go after that information and they’ll take it.

Again he bizarrely defers to Greenwald / Poitras’ judgement, before proceeding to speculate about Siemens.

Q: did the NSA tape already previous governments including the previous chancellors and when did they do that and how long did they do this for?

A: This is a particularly difficult question for me to answer because there’s information that I very strongly believe is in the public interest. However, as I’ve said before I prefer for journalists to make those decisions in advance, review the material themselves and decide whether or not the public value of this information outweighs the sort of reputational cost to the officials that ordered the surveillance. What I can say is we know Angela Merkel was monitored by the National Security Agency. The question is how reasonable is it to assume that she is the only German official that was monitored, how reasonable is it to believe that she’s the only prominent German face who the National Security Agency was watching. I would suggest it seems unreasonable that if anyone was concerned about the intentions of German leadership that they would only watch Merkel and not her aides, not other prominent officials, not heads of ministries or even local government officials.

And yet again, he defers to GG / LP, and then throws out another stream of innuendo and speculation. I particularly like how he advances the ridiculous notion that Greenwald cares one wit about not damaging US official’s reputations.

Q: How does a young man from Elizabeth City in North Carolina, 30 years old, get in such a position in such a sensitive area?

A: That’s a very difficult question to answer. In general, I would say it highlights the dangers of privatising government functions. I worked previously as an actual staff officer, a government employee for the Central Intelligence Agency but I’ve also served much more frequently as a contractor in a private capacity. What that means is you have private for profit companies doing inherently governmental work like targeted espionage, surveillance, compromising foreign systems and anyone who has the skills who can convince a private company that they have the qualifications to do so will be empowered by the government to do that and there’s very little oversight, there’s very little review.

Now he’s presenting himself as a cautionary tale on the dangers of privatization?

Q: In 2007 the CIA stationed you with a diplomatic cover in Geneva in Switzerland. Why did you join the CIA by the way?

A: I don’t think I can actually answer that one on the record.

So even after fleeing the country with and bulk dumping hundreds of thousands of classified documents he still feigns caring about not disclosing a potentially classified assignment? Though only “on the record” — suggesting he’ll dish once off camera.

Q: Obama asked the Russian president several times to extradite you. But Putin did not. It looks that you will stay to the rest of your life probably in Russia. How do you feel about Russia in that context and is there a solution to this problem.

A: I think it’s becoming increasingly clear that these leaks didn’t cause harm in fact they served the public good. Because of that I think it will be very difficult to maintain sort of an ongoing campaign of persecution against someone who the public agrees serve the public interest.

Greenwald-land keeps insisting no harm has been done. It’s perhaps their weirdest talking point, especially when in the next breath they’re often gloating about the damage (to reputations, foreign relations, US companies, etc).

459 ObserverArt  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:21:37pm

re: #433 HoosierHoops

threw the shovel as far as I could

Never saw this coming. My ego thought I could just move to the North Woods and be an instant stud woodsman. It didn’t take long outside trying to shovel my car out that within minutes I Threw the shovel as far as I could cursing like a sailor. Later I had to go back out and find the damn thing.
I have been humbled and laid low by mother nature.

Hang in there Hoops. Life often lays all of us low from time to time. Maybe a nice spring day will place those initial thoughts in a different perspective.

And keep in mind, the north woods would not be the north woods if not for the weather. It all goes hand-in-hand.

460 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 2:53:45pm

re: #458 simoom

Some weird bits from the recent ARD Snowden interview:

ndr.de

“Written interview”? A pre-interview?

Either this means, “I have no idea, and so I’m BSing here”, or he has placed a truly bizarre constraint on himself, where his bulk dumping is made less egregious because Greenwald and Poitras’ publishing decisions somehow absolves him of responsibility for leaking or putting any effort into vetting his leaks.

Again he bizarrely defers to Greenwald / Poitras’ judgement, before proceeding to speculate about Siemens.

And yet again, he defers to GG / LP, and then throws out another stream of innuendo and speculation. I particularly like how he advances the ridiculous notion that Greenwald cares one wit about not damaging US official’s reputations.

Now he’s presenting himself as a cautionary tale on the dangers of privatization?

So even after fleeing the country with and bulk dumping hundreds of thousands of classified documents he still feigns caring about not disclosing a potentially classified assignment? Though only “on the record” — suggesting he’ll dish once off camera.

Greenwald-land keeps insisting no harm has been done. It’s perhaps their weirdest talking point, especially when in the next breath they’re often gloating about the damage (to reputations, foreign relations, US companies, etc).

I have always said—from the beginning—that I think the GG and Poitras roles in this were much greater than anyone is letting on. Certainly Snowden won’t admit it, and no one is questioning G&P that closely.

Also, Snowden refers to himself as “an actual staff officer” in the CIA, which I think is bullshit, but there is no way to refute it (and he knows this) because the CIA will never confirm it. It simply sounds as though he wants you to think he was a part of the CIA the same way as a well-trained, seasoned vet of the spy wars, and there is no way I would believe that because I would have to suspend belief to do so. I think he was somewhere closer to a go-fer than he’d like to admit. Here is a position I found that he may be hinting at, and he would never have fit the qualifications. I am still mystified at how he was able to even get work as a contractor, “genius” or not, unless he somehow was able to lie about his qualifications, and that is a possibility. He’s certainly lied about other things.

Information Assurance Security Professional:

cia.gov

People used to think I was a college graduate because I was well-spoken,, but I was always honest. I never, ever lied on a resume or embellished it to make myself look like something I wasn’t. I don’t think most people do.

461 Petero1818  Tue, Jan 28, 2014 3:49:07pm

The thing I can’t figure out is whether they understand that there are people who are not Christian in public school, or simply don’t care. I think its the latter, but they speak like its the former.


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