Fox News Objects to Obama Calling Climate Change a Fact

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On the February 7 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, guest host Chris Wallace set up a segment on proposed carbon emission regulations by protesting that “President Obama has declared climate change a fact,” despite “objections from many dissenters.”

Correspondent Doug McKelway followed up with a report that continued to cast doubt on the existence of climate change and featured a professional climate misinformer, Climate Depot’s Marc Morano, whose financial ties to the fossil fuel industry went undisclosed.

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1 ObserverArt  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 5:55:10am

It is no wonder. Fox always objects to facts. They even distort the ones they want to try and make positive for the politicians they support.

2 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 6:41:51am

Faux News does even pretend to even appreciate facts in favor of ideology and Conservative dogma.

What is more important to Faux News associates and viewers is the person actually relaying the information. This is why a Nobel Prize-winning scientist will never be given air time on Faux News, and instead what their viewers see are an endless parade of Christian college trained chuckle-heads and right wing think tank dogma freaks.

You take any of the regular Faux News contributors and anchors anywhere else in the world and they would be laughed out of the country. Instead, here in ‘Merica they find a vast audience, a solid 25% or so of the country who really does think the Andy Griffith Show was some sort of documentary, and the Bible was magically written by an invisible sky god.

3 HappyWarrior  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 7:36:54am

But nary a word if someone calls creationism fact because it’s in the Bible.

4 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 8:32:08am

Well, I object to these Fox panderers calling themselves “news.”

5 nines09  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 8:59:31am

This just in…..Fox News denies reality. Says it all depends on who you talk to. Film at 11.

6 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 9:59:59am

When one of the most popular media networks in America is teaching its followers to believe in outright lies, we have a big problem.

7 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:00:32am

re: #2 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Faux News does even pretend to even appreciate facts in favor of ideology and Conservative dogma.

What is more important to Faux News associates and viewers is the person actually relaying the information. This is why a Nobel Prize-winning scientist will never be given air time on Faux News, and instead what their viewers see are an endless parade of Christian college trained chuckle-heads and right wing think tank dogma freaks.

You take any of the regular Faux News contributors and anchors anywhere else in the world and they would be laughed out of the country. Instead, here in ‘Merica they find a vast audience, a solid 25% or so of the country who really does think the Andy Griffith Show Flintstones was some sort of documentary, and the Bible was magically written by an invisible sky god.

FTFY.

8 Ryan King  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:01:43am

Who better to assess science than a PR hack?

9 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:03:22am

re: #2 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Instead, here in ‘Merica they find a vast audience, a solid 25%

Actually, their audience is not that great. An outside estimate would be 3 million people over the age of 12. (One recent day’s ratings)

That’s more than MSNBC or CNN, but a vast majority do not watch FOX Noise.

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:06:57am
11 jaunte  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:08:26am
ClimateDepot.com is being financed by the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, a nonprofit in Washington that advocates for free-market solutions to environmental issues. Public tax filings for 2003-7 (the last five years for which documents are available) show that the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the ExxonMobil Foundation and foundations associated with the billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife….
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According to a report [pdf] issued by the Union of Concerned Scientists, from 1998-2005, approximately 23% of the total ExxonMobil funding for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow was directed by ExxonMobil for climate change activities.

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12 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:09:04am

Fox News is entertainment, not news.

They are an Onion clone without the self awareness.

13 Tigger2  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:12:05am

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Actually, their audience is not that great. An outside estimate would be 3 million people over the age of 12. (One recent day’s ratings)

That’s more than MSNBC or CNN, but a vast majority do not watch FOX Noise.

I agree, On the most part Fox is almost all the Republicans watch, all other viewers split their time on all other news.

14 jaunte  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:12:58am

Clive Barker, Men of the City


clivebarker.info

15 Ryan King  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:17:06am

re: #14 jaunte

Oh, me likey.

16 jaunte  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:18:40am

re: #15 Ryan King

@FastCoDesign just tweeted the Clive Barker paintings link a few minutes ago, and that one seemed apt.

17 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:19:19am

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Actually, their audience is not that great. An outside estimate would be 3 million people over the age of 12. (One recent day’s ratings)

That’s more than MSNBC or CNN, but a vast majority do not watch FOX Noise.

No, but the echo chamber is many times the size of the actual audience. You see Fox talking points repeated all over the ‘net and on the editorial and letters to the editor pages in newspapers across the country.

18 Tigger2  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:29:49am

re: #17 Skip Intro

No, but the echo chamber is many times the size of the actual audience. You see Fox talking points repeated all over the ‘net and on the editorial and letters to the editor pages in newspapers across the country.

And if all other news agencies had any balls they would call those things lies it wouldn’t be as bad.

19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:32:27am

Greenwald is still ranting about Clapper using the word “accomplices” to refer to journalists who are profiting from Snowden’s theft.

His fear is obvious. He’s very worried about the possibility that he may have broken laws.

20 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:33:47am

Who actually understand that climate change is indisputably a fact?

Climatologists.

The ones who actually study this stuff.

Not media hacks at Fox News or the shills that come on to claim that climate change or global warming isn’t happening because it’s currently cold in NYC or that there have been major snowstorms across the US, as if that’s the only part of the globe that sees weather.

At the same time that the polar vortex was hitting much of the US, record heat was baking Australia. That didn’t get nearly the same play on Fox, because it would have undermined their claims that global warming doesn’t exist.

The trends tell the tale, and it’s that the planet’s gotten progressively warmer, and selectively picking and choosing data points like the Fox News shills do can’t hide that fact either.

21 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:35:11am

re: #17 Skip Intro

No, but the echo chamber is many times the size of the actual audience. You see Fox talking points repeated all over the ‘net and on the editorial and letters to the editor pages in newspapers across the country.

First, I wasn’t addressing the entire rightwing puke funnel. I was addressing the audience numbers for FOX News, which are actually relatively puny when compared to broadcast network news, even.

Second, I wouldn’t assume the talking points (which I agree are there) originate with FOX. Probably someone in the GOP Ratfvcking Division, or on the Hill. It would be an interesting study to perform to see how something spreads through the “network” of Internet sites, hate talk radio and FOX News.

Many years ago (maybe still going on), newspapers got an advance copy of the NY Times’ front page, and other newspapers would choose to follow the Times’ lead (agenda-setting), so it’s not unheard of, but not strictly tied to a “vast audience” for FN itself.

22 Ryan King  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:35:26am

re: #16 jaunte

@FastCoDesign just tweeted the Clive Barker paintings link a few minutes ago, and that one seemed apt.

Yes, well played. Very apt painting, brilliant.

23 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:35:29am

re: #20 lawhawk

Who actually understand that climate change is indisputably a fact?

Climatologists.

The ones who actually study this stuff.

Not media hacks at Fox News or the shills that come on to claim that climate change or global warming isn’t happening because it’s currently cold in NYC or that there have been major snowstorms across the US, as if that’s the only part of the globe that sees weather.

At the same time that the polar vortex was hitting much of the US, record heat was baking Australia. That didn’t get nearly the same play on Fox, because it would have undermined their claims that global warming doesn’t exist.

The trends tell the tale, and it’s that the planet’s gotten progressively warmer, and selectively picking and choosing data points like the Fox News shills do can’t hide that fact either.

Annoying, isn’t it?

24 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:36:29am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Being a journalist doesn’t make you immune to being charged with espionage.

But being charged and being convicted are two different things and that’s where Greenwald may take solace. With the right dudebros makeup of the jury, he might come out unscathed, or emboldened to do even more “reporting”.

25 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:40:21am

re: #20 lawhawk

Who actually understand that climate change is indisputably a fact?

Climatologists.

The ones who actually study this stuff.

Not media hacks at Fox News or the shills that come on to claim that climate change or global warming isn’t happening because it’s currently cold in NYC or that there have been major snowstorms across the US, as if that’s the only part of the globe that sees weather.

At the same time that the polar vortex was hitting much of the US, record heat was baking Australia. That didn’t get nearly the same play on Fox, because it would have undermined their claims that global warming doesn’t exist.

The trends tell the tale, and it’s that the planet’s gotten progressively warmer, and selectively picking and choosing data points like the Fox News shills do can’t hide that fact either.

Think we’ll know that things are truly fraked when the day comes that the shills stop going “global warming isn’t happening” and transition to “yeah, it’s happening, but think of all the jobs it’ll create!”

26 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:44:55am

re: #24 lawhawk

Being a journalist doesn’t make you immune to being charged with espionage.

But being charged and being convicted are two different things and that’s where Greenwald may take solace. With the right dudebros makeup of the jury, he might come out unscathed, or emboldened to do even more “reporting”.

It’s pretty unlikely that Greenwald will be charged with crimes, but I think it’s very telling that he’s so upset at the suggestion. If he were completely secure in the knowledge he hadn’t done anything wrong, he wouldn’t be in such a frenzy over this. Seriously — he’s been ranting about it non-stop all week.

27 Teukka  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:47:14am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Think we’ll know that things are truly fraked when the day comes that the shills stop going “global warming isn’t happening” and transition to “yeah, it’s happening, but think of all the jobs it’ll create!”

More like “think of the profits it will generate if you have invested in the right market segments when it begins hitting people hard.”
Not to many people pay attention to the people who stand to gain economically by people being caught ill prepared by climate change.

28 chadu  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:47:21am

re: #20 lawhawk

At the same time that the polar vortex was hitting much of the US, record heat was baking Australia. That didn’t get nearly the same play on Fox, because it would have undermined their claims that global warming doesn’t exist.

You have to recall that the average Fox viewer (and perhaps Fox pundit/talky-doll) doesn’t realize that when it’s winter in the Northern Hemisphere, it’s summer in the South, and vice-versa.

29 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:47:56am

I think Greenwald’s upset because he realizes he may have crossed the line between journalism and abetting espionage.

30 jaunte  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:50:25am

re: #28 chadu

The Fox pundits probably realize it, but their careers depend on delivering the management message that there’s nothing to be concerned about.

31 chadu  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:51:20am

re: #27 Teukka

More like “think of the profits it will generate if you have invested in the right market segments when it begins hitting people hard.”
Not to many people pay attention to the people who stand to gain economically by people being caught ill prepared by climate change.

Are you suggesting that the high muckety-muck 1%ers pushing “no global warming” are actually positioning themselves to make a profit as climate change (which they themselves know is happening) continues?

That’s… well, “evil” springs to mind.

Denying harm (tobacco producers and cancer) is one thing, but this sounds like tobacco companies investing in for-profit cancer treatment centers while pushing the “no connection” line.

32 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:51:33am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

It’s pretty unlikely that Greenwald will be charged with crimes, but I think it’s very telling that he’s so upset at the suggestion. If he were completely secure in the knowledge he hadn’t done anything wrong, he wouldn’t be in such a frenzy over this. Seriously — he’s been ranting about it non-stop all week.

As opposed to his usual ranting?

33 chadu  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:52:13am

re: #30 jaunte

The Fox pundits probably realize it, but their careers depend on delivering the management message that there’s nothing to be concerned about.

That’s why I also called them “talky-dolls”.

34 ObserverArt  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:55:34am

re: #17 Skip Intro

No, but the echo chamber is many times the size of the actual audience. You see Fox talking points repeated all over the ‘net and on the editorial and letters to the editor pages in newspapers across the country.

That is part of that well-oiled Republican parroting machine. I am not sure if it all starts at Fox, but damn by mid-day everyone on the far right is repeating it all the way up to congressmen and senators. It is sad.

What I don’t ever get is why people are not offended by the parroting. I hear that kind of stuff and all I think is someone is trying to brow beat me. And, there is a huge lack of intelligence and creativity in that style too.

35 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:57:22am

re: #32 Targetpractice

As opposed to his usual ranting?

He’s pretty much in constant rant mode, but he’s really fixated on the ‘accomplices’ thing.

36 ObserverArt  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:00:07am

re: #22 Ryan King

Yes, well played. Very apt painting, brilliant.

That is the type of painting I love and hope to do as I close on retirement. Figurative, story telling and creative in design and color all at the same time.

37 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:02:43am

The hypocrisy here is amazing:

This is the guy who answers every criticism of Edward Snowden by saying there’s NO PROOF for the charges, accusing President Obama of directing DNI Clapper to use the word ‘accomplices’ — with no proof whatsoever.

And when someone pointed that out to him, he links to an article:

The article is simply a report that Clapper used the word. There’s absolutely nothing in it that even remotely suggests Obama “directed” him to do so.

38 ObserverArt  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:09:34am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I think Greenwald’s upset because he realizes he may have crossed the line between journalism and abetting espionage.

Which just about everyone here at LGF has been saying since day one. Dude isn’t half as smart as he thinks he is. And that kind of hubris is what gets people in trouble big time.

39 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:09:44am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

The hypocrisy here is amazing:

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The article is simply a report that Clapper used the word. There’s absolutely nothing in it that even remotely suggests Obama “directed” him to do so.

He covered all the bases by saying “… allowing, encouraging and/or directing …”

40 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:12:18am

How serious is Fox?
A while back I did an image search in an effort to learn just which Fox News presenter was which. In the process I learned; indeed, could not help learning; that there are a number of websites devoted to nothing but capturing screen shots of the Fox babes when they inadvertently (?) expose their under garments or the adjacent areas of flesh. Sitting around for hours waiting for a grainy flash seems a singularly odd thing to do when there are terabytes of the most graphic pornography available for free on the ‘net. My hypothesis is that the geezers who watch Fox do not have the latter option, for fear the old lady will find out and put saltpeter in their Geritol or something. To the best of my knowledge there are no similar sites for MSNBC or PBS.

41 Political Atheist  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:13:57am

re: #39 b_sharp

He covered all the bases by saying “… allowing, encouraging and/or directing …”

42 Teukka  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:14:30am

re: #31 chadu

Are you suggesting that the high muckety-muck 1%ers pushing “no global warming” are actually positioning themselves to make a profit as climate change (which they themselves know is happening) continues?

That’s… well, “evil” springs to mind.

Denying harm (tobacco producers and cancer) is one thing, but this sounds like tobacco companies investing in for-profit cancer treatment centers while pushing the “no connection” line.

That’s called maintaining your customer base. Why do you hate freedom?

43 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:15:28am

re: #41 Political Atheist

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Gold weasel. What an award.

44 Political Atheist  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:17:49am

re: #43 b_sharp

Cheesy Photoshop bonus too.

45 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:20:31am

re: #44 Political Atheist

Cheesy Photoshop bonus too.

Given the Olympics in Russia you should create one GG can hang around his neck.

46 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:21:11am

re: #42 Teukka

That’s called maintaining your customer base. Why do you hate freedom?

My daughter tells me that the Lipitor sales rep used to bring dozens of Krispy-Kreme donuts to pass out in the hospital if he made his calls in the morning, pizza if in the afternoon.

47 GlutenFreeJesus  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:26:58am

In other not-so news, FOX News objects to President Obama being black.

48 Political Atheist  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:26:58am

re: #45 b_sharp

Given the Olympics in Russia you should create one GG can hang around his neck.

Hmmm… BRB

49 Ming  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:27:27am

By calling climate change a fact, President Obama is simply doing his job. When a significant percentage of Americans deny scientific consensus, one thing a president can do for the country is to say publicly what the scientific consensus is. It’s in America’s interest when more and more Americans are accepting of science.

50 bratwurst  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:29:26am
51 calochortus  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:29:42am

re: #12 b_sharp

Fox News is entertainment, not news.

They are an Onion clone without the self awareness.

And if I may say so-very poor entertainment, at that. How anyone could watch it all day and not be catatonic by the end escapes me.

52 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:31:46am
53 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:32:38am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Greenwald is so full of shit.

He gave up this country a long time ago.

54 Stanley Sea  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:37:31am

Blackfish is playing again tonight on CNN.

Liars.

55 RadicalModerate  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:38:10am

re: #50 bratwurst

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Reading the story, it appears that the money that was supposed to go to building and maintaining school infrastructure (ie custodial and repairs) was going to buying iPads for students in higher-income neighborhoods.

56 ObserverArt  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:40:22am

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

Greenwald is so full of shit.

He gave up this country a long time ago.

Something that can’t be said enough.

But hey, he looks so ‘journalistic’ in that cliche image he uses in his tweets. Dude is all about the show, factual content be damned. I’m surprised he doesn’t wear a houndstooth coat, fedora and smoke a pipe.

57 CriticalDragon1177  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:42:54am

Randall Gross,

If this was any other major US news Network, this kind of inaccurate reporting would be shocking.

58 Kid A  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:45:25am

Funny picture I shot last night.

59 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:45:58am

I can highly recommend The Outrage Industry: Political Opinion Media and the New Incivility to anyone who is interested in how and why partisan media works.

60 lawhawk  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:46:09am

re: #50 bratwurst

The difference is that the Russians spent $51 billion in just the past seven years to build what should have been gleaming new structures, infrastructure, and sports venues, and instead we’re seeing lots of problems with plumbing, elevators, etc.

The photos of the NYC housing authority buildings and rampant mold, crumbling walls and plumbing, or problems with the LA school district buildings shows what happens when you neglect basic infrastructure.

Both show what happens with misplaced priorities, graft and corruption.

61 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:48:05am

OK, now I get it. MSM don’t want to screw around with the nothing-burger that Greenwald has, so he’s promoting Omidyar’s little hobby and found someone at CNN to help push it.

Greenwald hints at new revelations

money.cnn.com

62 Political Atheist  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:48:41am

re: #45 b_sharp

Given the Olympics in Russia you should create one GG can hang around his neck.

Sumthin’ like this?

63 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:49:54am

re: #43 b_sharp

Gold weasel. What an award.

It’s fool’s gold.

64 Political Atheist  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:56:06am

re: #50 bratwurst

LAUSD is the very worst thing in government service in LA, at least. It’s an embarrassment. Easy pickings for a critic.

65 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 12:17:50pm

re: #60 lawhawk

The difference is that the Russians spent $51 billion in just the past seven years to build what should have been gleaming new structures, infrastructure, and sports venues, and instead we’re seeing lots of problems with plumbing, elevators, etc.

The photos of the NYC housing authority buildings and rampant mold, crumbling walls and plumbing, or problems with the LA school district buildings shows what happens when you neglect basic infrastructure.

Both show what happens with misplaced priorities, graft and corruption.

So you’re saying that due to Obama and the Democrats we now face a huge “shoddiness gap” where it takes the US decades to match what the Russians can do in one or two years?!? We must act immediately to close this gap - perhaps first by gutting housing and building regulations that prevent us from properly matching their abilities.
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66 Botsplainer  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 1:20:45pm

re: #38 ObserverArt

Which just about everyone here at LGF has been saying since day one. Dude isn’t half as smart as he thinks he is. And that kind of hubris is what gets people in trouble big time.

He was always a shitty lawyer, which is why he got into this grift. He prolly could have gotten Gluteus Maximus Matt Hale a law license had he approached it with common sense instead of vitriol. Later, he could have aided Hale tremendously by keeping mute about the victims of the Illinois racial rampage and simply defended on the basis of the absence of agency - instead, the stupid jerk engaged in victim trashing.

67 S'latch  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 2:29:58pm

At this point, the possible explanation for someone denying that climate change is a fact is that the person is a shill for the energy industry, or just a misinformed person who thinks that Fox News is an honest source. This issue has got to become issue number one sooner or later, hopefully sooner.

68 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 2:46:20pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Greenwald is still ranting about Clapper using the word “accomplices” to refer to journalists who are profiting from Snowden’s theft.

His fear is obvious. He’s very worried about the possibility that he may have broken laws.

I suspect Greenwald’s written admissions re Snowden could provide a Federal Grand Jury enough cause to indict him on conspiracy charges.

69 BusyMonster  Sun, Feb 9, 2014 7:34:29pm

re: #2 Rocky-in-Connecticut

You take any of the regular Faux News contributors and anchors anywhere else in the world and they would be laughed out of the country.

I’ve often stated that the Fox News staff is probably unemployable in their field, outside of Fox News. An outfit that doesn’t just tolerate incompetence and confusion but encourages it will attract and retain talentless, clumsy hacks to all of its positions, not just the public ones. I was on an AMA on Reddit once where a Fox News guy was trying to explain away the non-stop misidentification of scandal-plagued R’s as Democrats, which we’ve all seen, and I made the point that either deliberate or otherwise, it displayed incompetence if not malice, and that neither explanation was very flattering.

I mean, just picture your resume being one position at Fox News, famous for being dead wrong and clumsy as shit about it, and imagine who the hell would want to hire someone with such low standards? I know I wouldn’t. It will be interesting when the demographics start rapidly eating up Fox’s audience. What will happen to all those people once the only stupid people who will listen to them are no longer around?


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