Glenn Greenwald’s super-duper new website has launch problems

$50M budget, and they use WordPress?
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Today was the launch of Glenn Greenwald’s much-ballyhooed news website, the one that eBay founder Pierre Omidyar has pledged $250 million toward, to help build a new media empire.

And it fumbled its launch.

These jokers got $50 million to start with (source: ibtimes.com), and what web application do they use? Something custom-made, backed by high-end servers ready to tackle millions of hits?

Nope. WordPress 3.8. Free, open-source content management software.

Don’t get me wrong, WordPress is great. I use WordPress for my own blog. But my IT budget is precisely zero. And my daily traffic is minuscule. WP is just not the kind of CMS I would choose for the rollout of a brand-new, well publicized, well funded website, with a well known writer at the helm.

Greenwald was promising new revelations about the National Security Agency (NSA).

“Today’s launch is just the beginning,” said Mr Greenwald. “Our day one story is significant and we have more coming. Laura, Jeremy, and I recognize the responsibility in front of us, and are thrilled to be embarking on this exciting and important journey.”

First Look Media said it would launch a flagship site and additional digital magazines later this year.

At launch, the site had teething problems with pages not able to be loaded.

“We aware that some users are having difficulty accessing our site. Sorry! Our tech team are on it & will fix asap,” the publication said on its Twitter account @the_intercept.

More: NewsRoomAmerica.com - First Look Media Launches ‘The Intercept’ With New NSA Allegations

Guess we’ll need to wait on those revelations till they restart the database server.

UPDATE: It appears the website is preliminary to a major rollout later this year. Judging from The Intercept’s “About” page, Greenwald, et al., wanted a platform for more intel provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, and may not have prepared well for heavy web traffic.

Our short-term mission is to provide a platform to report on the documents previously provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. Although we are still building our infrastructure and larger vision, we are launching now because we believe we have a vital obligation to this ongoing and evolving story, to these documents, and to the public.

firstlook.org

SECOND UPDATE: The site is not kicking out any database errors now, but it’s still slow, at least for me here in China.

THIRD UPDATE: I’ve changed the headline and content slightly for accuracy.

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227 comments
1 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:08:06am

Teehee! Charles needs to front page this!

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:57:34am

hahahaaa

3 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:09:22am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Our tech team, Manny, is trying his hardest to keep the DB server running.

4 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:57:31am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaa

Our tech team are working to purge the gremlins from our website. We’re receiving huge traffic & will resolve the issues as soon as we can!

“You have our profoundest sympathy.”
—healthcare.gov

5 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:38:02am

I don’t think the WordPress diss is a good one. As I mentioned in the LGF main page article, plenty of major tech sites use WordPress. Look at some of the clients for WordPress VIP.

If I were trying to get a site up quickly and had the cash to burn, I’d use WP VIP too. The problem seems more to be with handling all the traffic.

6 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:40:09am

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi

Handy Manny on the job!

In ur servers, pwning ur gremlins!

7 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:42:15am

re: #5 Rev_Arthur_Belling

But is The Intercept using WP VIP? The source looks like plain vanilla WP 3.8.

8 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:48:12am

re: #7 wheat-dogghazi

It appears they are not VIP, just from comparing some of the code to TechCrunch’s code. I wonder who their IT team is. We heard a lot about all the front end “stars” they’ve hired, but next to nothing about the IT staff.

9 steve_davis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:02:53am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaa

[Embedded content]

Obama sitting at the Comm in the Oval Office: “Mr. Sulu, wait until Greenwald deactivates the site’s cloaking device, and then hit them again with phasers set to stun.”

Actually, I just started watching the animated Star Trek series that Netflix has, and I’ve got to say, these are MUCH better than I remember them being back when I was 7 or 8. Just watched the episode where Harry Mudd has sabotaged the Enterprise by breaking open a bunch of his Love Potion crystals and letting them waft through the ship’s air supply. So Kirk, Spock, Mudd, and Nurse Chapel are down on a planet trying desperately to get beamed back on board so as not to be eaten by some enormous stone critters, and we get a cut-scene up on the Enterprise, where there’s some early 70’s dance music playing, and a couple of engineers dancing away in the transporter room. And Leonard Nimoy gets to absolutely ham up his character as he and Kirk share a kind of Brokeback Mountain moment while trying not to get eaten. God, these are good!

10 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:44:12am

Glenn Greenwald has his own tab on the navigation bar, but as of now it just goes to his “About ME!” page and there are a bunch of drooling Glennbot comments about how great and awesome he is.

11 BusyMonster  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:54:05am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn Greenwald has his own tab on the navigation bar, but as of now it just goes to his “About ME!” page

Omg, I might as well pour gasoline on a fucking fire. Greenwald’s ego is gargantuan, and made of eggshell-thin glass.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:38:53am
13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:40:11am
14 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:41:56am

Hurr Hurr Hurr!!!!!

DEFYING!!11!!!

15 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:42:14am

Glad to see this was front-paged, Wheat!

Thanks for the updates, too.

16 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:43:29am
“Today’s launch is just the beginning,” said Mr Greenwald.

Duh

Nice to see you didn’t just take the money and flee to Russia.

//

17 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:48:52am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hurr Hurr Hurr!!!!!

[Embedded content]

DEFYING!!11!!!

18 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:51:26am

EXCLUSIVE!!!!!!

19 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:55:30am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gee, in a marketplace where there’s no barrier to entry (anyone can blog or set up a website for nothing), these nitwits think that pushing op-eds masquerading as journalism is somehow defying “threats to journalism”?

20 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:55:30am

So, an entire “news agency” that obsesses over the NSA. Ok. I’ll bookmark the site in the same subfolder that contains birfers, trufers, and creationists.

21 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:03:44am

re: #20 Dr. Matt

So, an entire “news agency” that obsesses over the NSA. Ok. I’ll bookmark the site in the same subfolder that contains birfers, trufers, and creationists.

Info Boors

22 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:04:18am

re: #20 Dr. Matt

So, an entire “news agency” that obsesses over the NSA. Ok. I’ll bookmark the site in the same subfolder that contains birfers, trufers, and creationists.

And then they can add “The Snowjob Report” that does nothing but report on the current depth of snow in Moscow.
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24 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:09:33am

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Oh look, it is that clown Scahill.

25 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:11:01am

FoxNews is concern trolling that President Obama is appointing more politically connected people to ambassadorships than his predecessors.

The facts? Well, a bit more nuanced than that.

For his 2d term, he’s picked more politically connected people, but his overall numbers are comparable to some of Obama’s predecessors.

Reagan appointed 62% career officials. Obama? 63%.

GWB and Clinton were both near 70% career appointees. GHWB was also nearly 70%. Ford was 61% and Carter was about 73%.


And should it be surprising that there are plum positions that are politically filled?

Some positions are nearly always filled by career foreign service officers, while others are almost always politically connected.

26 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:12:02am

re: #24 The War TARDIS

Oh look, it is that clown Scahill.

Jesselyn Radack too.

27 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:12:56am

Oooops!

Bitcoin prices plunged again Monday morning after Mt.Gox, the major exchange for the virtual currency, said technical problems require it to continue its ban on customer withdrawals.

Mt.Gox said it has discovered a bug that causes problems when customers try to use their account to make a transfer or payment of bitcoins to a third party.

money.cnn.com

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:14:58am

heh, I’m surprised it took this long for somebody to say it out loud…

NSA ATTACK CAUSED THE SERVER PROBLEMS!!11!!!

30 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:16:36am

I bet their IT team consists of little more than a few dudebros who are either still attending or just got out of college, no doubt paid as little as Greenwald et. al could get away with.

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:17:20am

Today is shaping up to be a lot of fun to watch…

32 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:17:40am

Processing Metadata is roughly on par with standard traffic analysis. Which has a long historical history in military circles, especially since the advent of radio communications. (And, of course, note that the US was not the only one doing analysis and taking advantage of it.)

en.wikipedia.org

Per, “death by metadata”, how about this as a WW2 example.

en.wikipedia.org

33 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:17:42am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh, I’m surprised it took this long for somebody to say it out loud…

[Embedded content]

NSA ATTACK CAUSED THE SERVER PROBLEMS!!11!!!

Lol.
If the NSA were as evil as these morons believe they’d have met their end at the hands of a drone strike.

34 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:20:23am

re: #33 Varek Raith

Shhhh! Keeping them alive is part of their nefarious plan to kill them!

35 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:20:36am

re: #33 Varek Raith

Unless Greenwald is himself a honey pot to allow the NSA to identify all the dudebros who have ties to bad actors worldwide (and doesn’t know it).

/plans within plans. The answer is within the problem.

36 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:21:21am

re: #29 Varek Raith

You seem to be obsessed with broad brushing progressives.

To be fair, Varek, if a series of articles all dealing with the same development had showed up at The Weekly Standard, Gateway Pundit and Breitbart.com, then many people here would be calling that development a “big hit with conservatives”. Killgore would likely be one of them.

4 articles on three sites is enough for him to state a conclusion. More evidence may refute that conclusion, but there can be no doubt that this latest Greenwald has gotten some traction on the left.

37 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:23:09am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, Varek, if a series of articles all dealing with the same development had showed up at The Weekly Standard, Gateway Pundit and Breitbart.com, then many people here would be calling that development a “big hit with conservatives”. Killgore would likely be one of them.

4 articles on three sites is enough for him to state a conclusion. More evidence may refute that conclusion, but there can be no doubt that this latest Greenwald has gotten >some traction on the left.

Uh, no.
I don’t smear all you guys with the morons at gateway and breitbart.

38 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:24:24am

re: #37 Varek Raith

Uh, no.
I don’t smear all you guys with the morons at gateway and breitbart.

We call them wingnuts.
If KT said moonbats and not progressives, I’d agree.

39 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:25:05am

Also, the dems aren’t pandering to these people.
The GOP is.
See the difference?

40 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:25:27am

re: #23 Killgore Trout

It seems to be a big hit among progressives leftist dudebros.

FIFY

41 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:25:37am

re: #32 Feline Fearless Leader

Processing Metadata is roughly on par with standard traffic analysis. Which has a long historical history in military circles, especially since the advent of radio communications. (And, of course, note that the US was not the only one doing analysis and taking advantage of it.)

en.wikipedia.org

Per, “death by metadata”, how about this as a WW2 example.

en.wikipedia.org

That wouldn’t have been needed if FDR hadn’t let the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor!

42 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:25:53am

re: #39 Varek Raith

Also, the dems aren’t pandering to these people.
The GOP is.
See the difference?

Isn’t there no difference between GOP and Democrats to the Dudebro Nation?

43 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:26:10am

re: #19 lawhawk

Gee, in a marketplace where there’s no barrier to entry (anyone can blog or set up a website for nothing), these nitwits think that pushing op-eds masquerading as journalism is somehow defying “threats to journalism”?

I asked during dark on the dying thread: Does Omidyar place himself at legal risk for assisting, if a future court rules against the publication of the stolen information?

44 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:27:39am

OT: I hate it when small local cell dealers spam the Craigslist “For sale” listings.

I’ve been without a cell phone since November, when I accidentally left mine on the back of my car and drove off.

I don’t have a fortune to spend on a new phone (I’m not upgrade eligible with my carrier until November) and I haven’t yet found much in my $150 range.

It hasn’t been terribly inconvenient being without one as I have a wifi tablet that’s substituted in some ways, but of course I am still stuck paying full price for mobile service that I can’t use because of the contract.

Hopefully I’ll find a good deal soon.

45 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:27:45am

re: #42 Feline Fearless Leader

Isn’t there no difference between GOP and Democrats to the Dudebro Nation?

Dudebros are the Crazy Glue that hold the wingnut and moonbat circle together.

46 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:28:58am

re: #19 lawhawk

Gee, in a marketplace where there’s no barrier to entry (anyone can blog or set up a website for nothing), these nitwits think that pushing op-eds masquerading as journalism is somehow defying “threats to journalism”?

It’s the exact same mentality of Glenn Beck, i.e., they believe if you screech loud and mad enough, the MSM will somehow fall to its knees.

47 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:29:10am

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ok, so I just watched a video of Flappy Bird and I am…very unimpressed. The game seemed bland and boring to me. I was expecting something a little more complex.

48 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:29:39am

re: #46 Dr. Matt

It’s the exact same mentality of Glenn Beck, i.e., they believe if you screech loud and mad enough, the MSM will somehow fall to its knees.

That and it’s about trying to create a perception, regardless of what the actual reality is.

49 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:30:29am

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Dudebros are the Crazy Glue that hold the wingnut and moonbat circle together.

I may have to update my political genealogy app….dudebros and moonbats are not the same???

50 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:31:35am

re: #37 Varek Raith

Uh, no.
I don’t smear all you guys with the morons at gateway and breitbart.

Which was why I put in The Weekly Standard as one of the sites, since it is not crazy like the other two. In the same vein, the Daily Kos is considered a mainstream liberal site and the story is getting traction there.

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:33:17am

re: #29 Varek Raith

ALL LEFTISTS ARE EBIL!1!!11ty!!

52 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:34:12am

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: I hate it when small local cell dealers spam the Craigslist “For sale” listings.

I’ve been without a cell phone since November, when I accidentally left mine on the back of my car and drove off.

I don’t have a fortune to spend on a new phone (I’m not upgrade eligible with my carrier until November) and I haven’t yet found much in my $150 range.

It hasn’t been terribly inconvenient being without one as I have a wifi tablet that’s substituted in some ways, but of course I am still stuck paying full price for mobile service that I can’t use because of the contract.

Hopefully I’ll find a good deal soon.

Try Ebay. Sometimes you can find a good used phone there.

53 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:34:21am

re: #49 Dr. Matt

I may have to update my political genealogy app….dudebros and moonbats are not the same???

Not on my map. GG and company are some kind of libertarians who don’t have a particularly good history of progressivism.

(When LGF started using ‘dudebro’ it seemed a departure from the old mold—asshole misogynistic fratboys with reflected country-club politics.)

54 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:34:47am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, Varek, if a series of articles all dealing with the same development had showed up at The Weekly Standard, Gateway Pundit and Breitbart.com, then many people here would be calling that development a “big hit with conservatives”. Killgore would likely be one of them.

4 articles on three sites is enough for him to state a conclusion. More evidence may refute that conclusion, but there can be no doubt that this latest Greenwald has gotten >some traction on the left.

The difference — the BIG difference — is that you don’t see the same mindless lockstep unison on the left. There are plenty of liberals who are not falling for Greenwald’s propaganda, even at Daily Kos.

55 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:36:12am

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Which was why I put in The Weekly Standard as one of the sites, since it is not crazy like the other two. In the same vein, the Daily Kos is considered a mainstream liberal site and the story is getting traction there.

And sorry - the Weekly Standard is absolutely every bit as crazy as every other right wing site.

56 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:36:58am

re: #49 Dr. Matt

I may have to update my political genealogy app….dudebros and moonbats are not the same???

We are what we used to call “moonbats” here.

Dudebros are privileged white boys who think that their First World Problems are MOAR OUTRAGEOUS!!!11!!!! than racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.

57 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:37:36am

re: #38 Varek Raith

We call them wingnuts.
If KT said moonbats and not progressives, I’d agree.

I have been making an attempt to avoid the usual internet derogative political labels after I noticed that whenever I see them used my eyes glaze over. These terms often indicate silly criticism. Our political terminology is confusing enough as it is. however, there is a strain of progressive thought that really embraces Greenwald’s efforts. If I intend to implicate all of a group (all progressives, all liberals, all conservatives) I will use the word “all”. to insert the word into my statement changes the intended meaning. It’s a straw man.

58 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:37:55am

So the big scoop at the newly launched Pierre’s Playground DailyDudebro Firstlook.org is that sometimes terrorist exchange phones to throw US Intel off of their scent and that might endanger civilians?

Any dudebro remember how Bin Laden once escaped by giving his sat phone to some guys who went in a different direction?

59 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:38:05am
60 allegro  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:39:36am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

The difference — the BIG difference — is that you don’t see the same mindless lockstep unison on the left. There are plenty of liberals who are not falling for Greenwald’s propaganda, even at Daily Kos.

Seriously. The article has 206 recs - the site boasts some 2,000,000 unique visitors a day for 0.000103% enthusiasm among Kos visitors.

61 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:40:29am

Meanwhile in Iran…..
Iran Develops Centrifuges ‘15 Times More Powerful than Previous Generation’

Iran has developed a new generation of centrifuges which are 15 times more powerful than those currently being used to enrich uranium, its atomic chief Ali Akbar Salehi said Monday.

“We unveiled a new generation of centrifuges that surprised the Westerners … This new machine is 15 times more powerful than the previous generation,” he said, quoted by the state broadcaster on its website, iribnews.ir.

He said the development was not in violation of a November 24 agreement between Iran and six world powers that has imposed curbs on Tehran’s nuclear drive.

“We successfully argued that this was allowed within the research and development article in the agreement,” Salehi added.

62 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:41:02am

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Try Ebay. Sometimes you can find a good used phone there.

The thing about that is that Paypal (surprise!) screwed me over awhile back and, long story short, absolutely refuse to unlock my account, so Ebay is out of the question for me.

63 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:42:08am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

And sorry - the Weekly Standard is absolutely every bit as crazy as every other right wing site.

In your opinion, which I don’t share.

64 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:42:32am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

The difference — the BIG difference — is that you don’t see the same mindless lockstep unison on the left. There are plenty of liberals who are not falling for Greenwald’s propaganda, even at Daily Kos.

There are 2 stories higher on the Recommended List than those two, there is a very hostile and vocal dudebro element over there but their numbers are not as large as they would lead you to believe.

They aren’t in the top rec. list spots even with their knowledge of playing the rec list, secret Facebook groups, etc.

65 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:43:01am

re: #57 Killgore Trout

I have been making an attempt to avoid the usual internet derogative political labels after I noticed that whenever I see them used my eyes glaze over. These terms often indicate silly criticism. Our political terminology is confusing enough as it is. however, there is a strain of progressive thought that really embraces Greenwald’s efforts. If it intend to implicate all of a group (all progressives, all liberals, all conservatives) I will use the word “all”. to insert the word into my statement changes the intended meaning. It’s a straw man.

The only thing progressive about the GG group is an anarchist attitude towards government. You can find the same attitude, with perhaps a different driving force, on Freep or a dozen other reactionary sites.

66 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:43:44am

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

The thing about that is that Paypal (surprise!) screwed me over awhile back and, long story short, absolutely refuse to unlock my account, so Ebay is out of the question for me.

Been there, done that, Paypal still owes me a couple of Franklins I’ll never see. To hell with PreyPal & Eprey.

67 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:43:44am

I already suspect the RWNJs will declare the Sochi games an “unparalleled success”

68 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:44:04am

Speaking of Iran:

Report: Iran sending warships toward U.S. maritime borders

This should get McCain more riled up then a viagra cocktail.

69 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:44:26am

Cartoon alert! (Drudge siren)
Thousands of Iraqis Protest against Cartoon Insulting Iranian Leader

Thousands of Iraqi people took to the streets in Baghdad to condemn the publication of a cartoon insulting Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei in Iraq’s Al-Sabah Al-Jadid newspaper.


The angry protesters, who had gathered in Baghdad’s Al-Ferdos square, urged the newspaper’s officials to apologize for their insult to the Iranian Supreme Leader.

Secretary-General of Al-Rasali Political Current and Member of Iraq’s Parliament Sheikh Adnan Al-Shahmani, who was taking part in the protest rally, called on the newspaper officials to apologize for their action.

Al-Shahmani also asked the Iraqi Syndicate of Journalists to fulfill its duty to confront such attempts and prevent misuse of the freedom of press for disrespecting Muslim religious leaders.

70 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:44:55am

re: #66 William Barnett-Lewis

The stupid thing is if Ebay wasn’t “paypal or nothing” now I wouldn’t have a problem. I’m perfectly content paying with money orders. But no, they had to go and ruin all that too.

71 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:45:14am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

The only thing progressive about the GG group is an anarchist attitude towards government. You can find the same attitude, with perhaps a different driving force, on Freep or a dozen other reactionary sites.

yup. the libertarian/Ron Paul crossover crowd.

72 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:45:35am

re: #57 Killgore Trout

I have been making an attempt to avoid the usual internet derogative political labels after I noticed that whenever I see them used my eyes glaze over. These terms often indicate silly criticism. Our political terminology is confusing enough as it is. however, there is a strain of progressive thought that really embraces Greenwald’s efforts. If I intend to implicate all of a group (all progressives, all liberals, all conservatives) I will use the word “all”. to insert the word into my statement changes the intended meaning. It’s a straw man.

Then what you are doing is looking at it in black and white and not shades of gray.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:45:48am

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

I already suspect the RWNJs will declare the Sochi games an “unparalleled success”

Praising their man crush Putin and getting to diss Mittens (2002 games) at the same time? Gotta be wingnut heaven.

74 ericblair  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:46:06am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

The only thing progressive about the GG group is an anarchist attitude towards government. You can find the same attitude, with perhaps a different driving force, on Freep or a dozen other reactionary sites.

More specifically, the US government, which Greenie seems to consider fundamentally illegitimate and hopelessly corrupt. Other world governments are simply dupes, patsies, victims, or opponents of the US. Any opponent of the US is a brother in arms and consequently any sort of inconvenient violations of civil liberties on their parts are ignored as irrelevant to the Great Struggle.

75 bratwurst  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:46:14am

Bachmann: Obama And Kerry Are ‘Calling For Actual War And Economic War Against Israel’

The hard right in this country continues to insist Obama is on Iran’s side against Israel while the hard left elsewhere continues to insist Obama is Israel’s lap dog. Nothing like making a country into a political football.

76 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:46:26am

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

In your opinion, which I don’t share.

Many of the worst, most dishonest right wing talking points originate at the Weekly Standard. For one example, the outright lie that the Obama kids go to a school with armed guards. A complete falsehood, never corrected even after being exposed. That’s not what a responsible media site does.

77 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:46:31am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

The stupid thing is if Ebay wasn’t “paypal or nothing” now I wouldn’t have a problem. I’m perfectly content paying with money orders. But no, they had to go and ruin all that too.

I cancelled my account the day they went paypal only. Haven’t missed it.

78 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:47:38am

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

I already suspect the RWNJs will declare the Sochi games an “unparalleled success”

Yet another symptom of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

79 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:48:38am

re: #68 Dr. Matt

Speaking of Iran:

Report: Iran sending warships toward U.S. maritime borders

This should get McCain more riled up then a viagra cocktail.

Nah, he knows that one frigate from Iran isn’t a threat

80 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:50:40am

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Nah, he knows that one frigate from Iran isn’t a threat

I liked our response.

“Freedom of the seas doesn’t just apply to fish. It applies to all maritime nations, all navies, everywhere — so long as they understand the responsibilities which come with that freedom,” the defense official said.

“So if they chose to send their ships to the Atlantic, I’m sure they won’t be surprised to find many, many others already there.”

81 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:50:40am

MATT, JESUS THINKS U SUCK.

82 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:51:20am

re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis

I cancelled my account the day they went paypal only. Haven’t missed it.

I dunno, I’ve never had a problem with Paypal.

83 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:53:00am

LGF Search: weekly standard

84 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:53:21am

re: #75 bratwurst

Bachmann: Obama And Kerry Are ‘Calling For Actual War And Economic War Against Israel’

The hard right in this country continues to insist Obama is on Iran’s side against Israel while the hard left elsewhere continues to insist Obama is Israel’s lap dog. Nothing like making a country into a political football.

Surprising absolutely nobody, the American Right continues its proud tradition of using Israel as a political stone to throw without giving one single damn about Israel or what the Israelis have to say about the matter-at-hand.

Business as usual.

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:54:05am
86 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:54:33am

re: #68 Dr. Matt

Speaking of Iran:

Report: Iran sending warships toward U.S. maritime borders

This should get McCain more riled up then a viagra cocktail.

They’ve made that claim several times in the past decade, but lack the capability to actually sail much beyond their immediate coastal areas. They aren’t a blue water navy by any stretch, and even if they were to sail out into the Atlantic Ocean, they’d still have to go 7,500 miles to get to US coastal waters (Bandar Abbas to NYC is 7,800 nm, but coastal waters are 200 miles). That’s a 15,000 mile round trip.

The range on the Alvand class frigate? 5,000 nautical miles.

Alternatively, they could try to get to within 200 nm of the Marianas. That’s much more likely, but it’s still in excess of 5,000 nm each way.

In other words, it’s a whole lot of huffing and puffing, but actual capabilities fall short.

87 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:55:22am

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Nah, he knows that one frigate from Iran isn’t a threat

1. They are sending two boats: a destroyer and helicopter carrier

2. Even if it was a brown water boat, like that would stop him from fear mongering.

88 BroncD  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:56:28am

THIRD UPDATE: I’ve changed the headline and content slightly for accuracy.

So, one more correction than Greenwald’s ever issued.

89 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:56:29am

Adam Gadahn: innocent, Constitution-loving citizen just using his 2nd Amendment Rights according to the Founding Fathers!!11!!!!!

90 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:56:43am

re: #81 Pie-onist Overlord

MATT, JESUS THINKS U SUCK.

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I thought about trying to be one of God’s children, but then Shiva and Odin started giving me dirty looks.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:58:11am

re: #90 GunstarGreen

I thought about trying to be one of God’s children, but then Shiva and Odin started giving me dirty looks.

Not Zeus?

92 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:59:24am

re: #87 Dr. Matt

Iran doesn’t have a helicopter carrier. Their largest ship is a frigate, which is about 2,000 tons displacement. That’s a quarter of the size of the smallest destroyers in the US navy - the Burke class, which are 8,300-9,800 tons displacement. Our smallest frigates are the Perry class, which are double the size at 4,300 tons.

93 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:59:28am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

Al-Shahmani also asked the Iraqi Syndicate of Journalists to fulfill its duty to confront such attempts and prevent misuse of the freedom of press for disrespecting Muslim religious leaders.

Love the Orwellian term “misuse of the freedom of press”.

94 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:00:05am

re: #81 Pie-onist Overlord

Right on, Matt. I don’t think God exists, so I sure don’t think I’m one of his children.

95 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:00:12am

re: #86 lawhawk

They’ve made that claim several times in the past decade, but lack the capability to actually sail much beyond their immediate coastal areas. They aren’t a blue water navy by any stretch, and even if they were to sail out into the Atlantic Ocean, they’d still have to go 7,500 miles to get to US coastal waters (Bandar Abbas to NYC is 7,800 nm, but coastal waters are 200 miles). That’s a 15,000 mile round trip.

The range on the Alvand class frigate? 5,000 nautical miles.

Alternatively, they could try to get to within 200 nm of the Marianas. That’s much more likely, but it’s still in excess of 5,000 nm each way.

In other words, it’s a whole lot of huffing and puffing, but actual capabilities fall short.

The “helicopter carrier” they’re sending is really just a supply ship, but it carries enough extra fuel to allow it and the frigate to make the trip. Basically this is just a dressed-up deployment exercise.

96 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:00:42am

re: #87 Dr. Matt

1. They are sending two boats: a destroyer and helicopter carrier

2. Even if it was a brown water boat, like that would stop him from fear mongering.

They created great disorder in the USN:

“Those are bomb magnets.”
“No, they’re torpedo magnets.”
“Missile magnets, y’all.”

97 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:01:12am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Not Zeus?

Hera was glaring at him the whole time.
He kept is mouth shut.

98 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:01:20am

re: #84 GunstarGreen

Surprising absolutely nobody, the American Right continues its proud tradition of using Israel as a political stone to throw without giving one single damn about Israel or what the Israelis have to say about the matter-at-hand.

Business as usual.

Someone tweet photos of Tel Aviv Pride at Bachmann.

99 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:01:58am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Not Zeus?

We’re not on speaking terms. He still has yet to return my hedge trimmer.

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:02:16am

Totally OT, but there are a couple of visitors at my house…

Lunchtime!

Showing off their best side…

101 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:02:27am

re: #92 lawhawk

Iran doesn’t have a helicopter carrier. Their largest ship is a frigate, which is about 2,000 tons displacement. That’s a quarter of the size of the smallest destroyers in the US navy - the Burke class, which are 8,300-9,800 tons displacement.

According to Globalsecurity.org they converted a replenshiment ship into a helo carrier.

102 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:02:34am

re: #98 Ian G.

Someone tweet photos of Tel Aviv Pride at Bachmann.

Wingnuts don’t give a shit about Israel. They just want Armageddon to get started so Wingnut Jesus will come back and kill all the Unbelievers (which includes all Teh Juice)

103 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:06:48am

re: #80 Varek Raith

I liked our response.

Exactly. Iranian propaganda is trying to portray this exercise as some great act of defiance, as though we would like to stop them but don’t dare. In fact, the Iranians, like anyone else, can go where they like on the high seas.
If they violate the law of the sea, or otherwise take aggressive action, that freedom will disappear, and their ships will be donated as fishing reefs.

104 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:08:06am

re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis

I cancelled my account the day they went paypal only. Haven’t missed it.

Heck, I still remember way back in the day when you were allowed to request cash as payment. Then they changed to where you couldn’t explicitly request cash, but buyers could still pay you that way if they chose to, then it went downhill from there.

105 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:08:47am
106 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:11:09am

Iirc, the landlocked Paraguayan Navy operates on the high seas, with an annual training cruise down the Paraguay River system across Argentina, into the Atlantic, and all the way across to Europe and Africa.

107 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:11:21am

Holy shit.

“The Intercept” is down again, and I found this site which links to GG’s.

“Readers of the Intercept are encouraged to move to the new site and continue following the stories that are important to us. The Intercept was constructed in October of 2009 as an alternative to the dismal coverage of world events, national headlines, corruption and election fraud among local news outlets surrounding Tucson, AZ.

“The Intercept became a regular habit for us news junkies who share and sometimes construct or write various posts and news items for an expanding international audience. Providing this service has become an educational endeavor as we search through what is necessary to deliver credible, accurate, and meaningful information. The primary objective of this site is to bring readers closer to a realistic assessment of the world they live in with a sharper focus on the truth.”

weeklyintercept.blogspot.com

108 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:11:23am

re: #93 Ian G.

Love the Orwellian term “misuse of the freedom of press”.

That’s a standard interpretation of “freedom” among some folks. In their minds “freedom” includes being free from offending thoughts, images and writings.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:12:12am
110 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:14:03am

re: #101 Dr. Matt

It’s a cargo ship that happens to support a handful of helicopters at most. One helicopter landing area aft (with space for one helicopter) with two enclosed bays. So, they have the potential to have three helicopters aboard.

111 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:14:04am

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

Dudebros Assemble!

112 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:14:32am
113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:14:46am

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

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NSA! NSA! NSA!

114 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:15:03am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

That’s a standard interpretation of “freedom” among some folks. In their minds “freedom” includes being free from offending thoughts, images and writings.

In this case, it’s the usual “no legal freedom may trump Islam” trope.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:15:12am

NSA has fucked them up again!

116 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:16:07am

Four players banned from women’s national team for failing gender tests

I guess they should have studied harder.

117 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:17:18am

re: #110 lawhawk

Yes, I know this. I told you where I found it (Globalsecurity.org). Hence the term “helicopter carrier”. It can carry helicopters.

118 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:17:52am

re: #112 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

We’re too busy answering every tweet to work on the problem.

119 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:19:35am

Suicide Bomb Instructor Accidentally Kills Iraqi Pupils

A group of Sunni militants attending a suicide bombing training class at a camp north of Baghdad were killed on Monday when their commander unwittingly conducted a demonstration with a belt that was packed with explosives, army and police officials said.

Class Dismissed!

120 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:19:42am

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

NSA Surveillance State!!

NSA gulag defense network hashtag needed!!!

121 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:20:00am
122 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:20:12am

I’m sure people warned them about the disadvantages of locating their servers and tech support team in Tadjikistan.

123 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:20:53am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Suicide Bomb Instructor Accidentally Kills Iraqi Pupils

Class Dismissed!

None of my best students ever get out of training!!

124 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:21:27am

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

The bigger problem is my stupid twitters won’t refresh on my stupid smart phone.

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:22:02am

re: #124 Bulworth

The bigger problem is my stupid twitters won’t refresh on my stupid smart phone.

The Android Twitter app sucks.

126 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:22:04am

Hey Pierre! I thought that at least you knew how the internet worked.

127 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:23:06am

I’m surprised eBay doesn’t accept Bitcoin.

128 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:23:21am

re: #123 b.d.

None of my best students ever get out of training!!

I wonder if the remaining students still get credit. Sounds like the best suicide bomb training possible.

129 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:23:22am

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

Thanks, Obama!!!

130 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:23:31am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Suicide Bomb Instructor Accidentally Kills Iraqi Pupils

Class Dismissed!

DARWIN AKBAR!

131 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:24:35am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

That save use a few thousand dollars in Hellfire missiles.

132 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:25:19am

[Dudebro’s NSA] HOW CAN WE SPY ON YOU IF YOUR WEBSITE KEEPS CRASHING!!1!! [/Dudebro’s NSA]

133 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:25:43am
The militant who was conducting the training was not identified by name, but he was described by an Iraqi Army officer as a prolific recruiter who was “able to kill the bad guys for once.”

Heh

134 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:25:59am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of which, once my parents send me the March 2011 copy of Nat Geo, I will be writing a little article on Evolution and the domestication of the fox.

135 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:26:05am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

DARWIN AKBAR!

Hey teacher, what’s this button do?

136 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:26:06am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Suicide Bomb Instructor Accidentally Kills Iraqi Pupils

Class Dismissed!

Lol.

137 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:26:51am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Suicide Bomb Instructor Accidentally Kills Iraqi Pupils

Class Dismissed!

Am I a bad person for laughing hysterically at this?

138 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:27:01am

Fever Swamp update:
Gay man could play pro football next year: Why make it a big deal?

Freepers, of course, proceed to make it a big deal, including the moth-eaten “showering with gay dude” meme.

This one conflates the manly man Michael Sam with a transexual:

“Will the he-she have it’s own shower facilities?”

This one, obviously, thinks he is irresistibly attractive to gay athletes. He should live so long:

I don’t have to shower with him. IF I DID, it would be an issue.


If some nitwit asks me how I would feel having a gay guy ogling me in the shower, I would be tempted to respond, “Simply thrilled, honey, simply thrilled!”

139 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:27:22am

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

Am I a bad person for laughing hysterically at this?

Yes, yes we are.

140 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:27:55am

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

No.

141 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:28:12am

Well oiled machine:

142 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:29:06am

re: #141 b.d.

Are the Russians running this, too?

143 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:29:11am

It actually immediately reminded me of this:

Youtube Video

144 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:30:15am

re: #142 Bulworth

Are the Russians running this, too?

Is this a trick question?

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:31:46am
146 EmmaAnne  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:35:04am

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t have a fortune to spend on a new phone (I’m not upgrade eligible with my carrier until November) and I haven’t yet found much in my $150 range.

It hasn’t been terribly inconvenient being without one as I have a wifi tablet that’s substituted in some ways, but of course I am still stuck paying full price for mobile service that I can’t use because of the contract.

Hopefully I’ll find a good deal soon.

Have you tried Freecycle (if you have it in your area)? A lot of us have our last phone sitting in a drawer and would be glad to send it off to a good home.

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:35:05am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Here is her tweet:

148 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:35:10am
149 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:36:00am
First Look Media and the Usual Gender Gap

Another media outlet comes up short on women

Because I’m a woman and I am used to expecting the media to more or less fail when it comes to hiring, promoting, or amplifying women, I glanced at the staff page after I read the article. I was secretly hoping it would be diverse. I had tweeted Glenn Greenwald a few months back with a few concerns and he responded “Many — we will be aggressively diverse.”

Yet, as of launch date, only 3 of the 12 staffers are women. How is 1/4 of the staff being women meet the criteria of being aggressively diverse?

medium.com

150 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:36:55am
151 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:37:05am
152 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:38:34am

re: #149 b.d.

Severely diverse. //

153 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:39:33am

re: #149 b.d.

medium.com

But they’re working on it, you betcha!

154 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:39:35am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cue the totally not racist racists at BreitbartFreeRepublic

155 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:40:45am

And probably no minorities of note, either.

re: #150 darthstar

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Yes, when I was out this am, the State rd I’m near was already brined. But it’s just raining now, so…

156 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:41:06am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t wait to hear what the wingnut welfare recipients at TroofRevolt will have to say about this.

/

157 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:45:09am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

White dudebro mansplainers to the rescue!:

158 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:45:30am
159 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:46:39am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dudebros don’t care about equality or representation.

They just want their soapbox.

160 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:48:19am

So Rand Paul isn’t the only one stuck in 1998:

Right goes back to the ’90s with new Hillary report

At this rate, the 2016 election will end up being a referendum on the Clinton impeachment. WTF.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:48:22am

DERP

162 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:48:31am

I think “The Intercept” is dead before it’s completely off the ground.

163 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:49:00am
164 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:49:23am

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

NSA gonna be in big trouble…

165 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:50:01am
@benshapiro explains why

Wait, I think I see a problem….

166 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:51:25am

re: #162 Justanotherhuman

I think “The Intercept” is dead before it’s completely off the ground.

It’s hard to tell someone who has $50 Million to spend that they put their 5 month in the making WordPress website up too soon

167 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:51:44am

Football player comes out, competence on the field changes overnight:

168 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:52:41am

re: #149 b.d.

medium.com

169 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:52:59am

I think we should invite the oncoming Iranian battle fleet to make a port call/goodwill visit, free passes to topless bars, fatcat receptions, that kind of thing. Foreign navies do it all the time. Normally, the nearest Coast Guard district extends these invitations if the foreign ship has not asked first. This time, though, President Obama and the Commandant can make the offer in a nationally televised press conference.

170 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:53:53am

re: #168 wrenchwench

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Those “many other women” are probably the honeypots…and they’re probably in binders as well…

171 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:54:00am

re: #167 Lidane

Football player comes out, competence on the field changes overnight:

Some team who doesn’t give a crap about his sexual preferences is going to end up getting a deal if the other teams buy into this. Though I guess the question really is “Who are the people setting CBS Sport’s draft prospect board?”

172 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:54:14am
173 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:54:29am

re: #168 wrenchwench

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They mean significant others, no doubt, who work w/o pay.

Interns, too?

174 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:54:47am

So I guess they’re going with “ALL NSA ALL THE TIME!”

175 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:55:07am

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Well, they are pretty pictures. But the NSA has had its HQ in photos galleries on their website.

You can even see it on Google Maps (and via street view).

176 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:55:07am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those “many other women” are probably the honeypots…and they’re probably in binders as well…

Binders was my first thought.

177 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:56:17am

re: #175 lawhawk

Well, they are pretty pictures. But the NSA has had its HQ in photos galleries on their website.

You can even see it on Google Maps (and via street view).

Well, they did make a splash with the totally ignorant and easily impressed, amirite?

178 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:56:23am

re: #176 wrenchwench

Binders was my first thought.

Ladies in binders are very nice, but only if they expressly and positively consent to be in them.

179 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:56:58am
180 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:57:01am

re: #167 Lidane

Football player comes out, competence on the field changes overnight:

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Because America is a 100% total meritocracy, haven’t you heard?

181 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:57:56am

re: #167 Lidane

Football player comes out, competence on the field changes overnight:

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While I think a lot of teams are going to use this as an excuse, he will go late if at all because of coming out.

That said, there were legitimate arguments about his performance - 9 of his 11.5 sacks were against teams that provided no competition. That padding of college schedules is a real problem.

My guess is he’s not as good as some but more than good enough for the NFL and the team that gets him will get a bargain with a chip on his shoulder about proving himself.

182 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:58:12am

re: #179 wrenchwench

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That’s hilarious! Called out on it, too. : )

183 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:58:18am

re: #167 Lidane

Football player comes out, competence on the field changes overnight:

Michael Sam dropped 70 spots on CBS’ draft prospects board overnight

Somebody’s gonna get an absolute steal in that draft.

184 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:58:25am

It’s 8:00 in Hawaii, I can only imagine Pierre waking up and logging in to see what his $50 Million has purchased.

185 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:00:51am

re: #149 b.d.

HEY WE HIRED THAT THIRD ONE

186 Tigger2  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:01:11am

re: #160 Lidane

So Rand Paul isn’t the only one stuck in 1998:

Right goes back to the ’90s with new Hillary report

At this rate, the 2016 election will end up being a referendum on the Clinton impeachment. WTF.

187 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:01:30am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

Ladies in binders are very nice, but only if they expressly and positively consent to be in them.

Ladies in binders is a mythological concept. These are the ladies that are about to be hired just as soon as the men doing the hiring can no longer resist the political pressure. If they were going to do it voluntarily, it would have happened years ago. Segregated binders are an obvious tip off that women are not being considered.

188 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:01:49am

Please bring to our attention any material on our Service that you believe to be inaccurate. Please forward a copy of the material to corrections@firstlook.org.


Who wants to be first?

189 Tigger2  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:02:10am

re: #186 Tigger2

My part of the comment didn’t show up for 186, here it is.


This wasn’t popular with the majority of Americans, I guess the Teapublicans have come up with another loser strategy.

190 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:03:44am

The Intercept seems to be Dudebro Daily.

191 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:03:57am

WHAT IF THE IRANIAN SHIPS GET ORDERS TO ATTACK OUR COAST?

In that case, there will be a brief fight, as the sailors throw their Revolutionary Guard minders overboard and make for port to ask for asylum.

192 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:04:25am

The only report on GG’s “The Intercept” this morning that I could find by Google. No mention of its Total Failure.

And it’s by Business Insider which hardly anyone reads.

businessinsider.com

193 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:04:54am

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel

WHAT IF THE IRANIAN SHIPS GET ORDERS TO ATTACK OUR COAST?

In that case, there will be a brief fight, as the sailors throw their Revolutionary Guard minders overboard and make for port to ask for asylum.

How would we know if it was a Trojan Ship or not?

194 dog philosopher  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:05:17am

michael sam

an activity involving millions of men being fascinated by groups of other men wearing tight pants and grappling w each other is no place for gay men

///

195 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:05:26am
196 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:07:14am

re: #1 Justanotherhuman

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi
I was watching you trouble makers last night. Well done.

197 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:07:15am

re: #193 Please Proceed

How would we know if it was a Trojan Ship or not?

I am not sure the mullahs allow condoms.

198 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:07:38am

re: #181 William Barnett-Lewis

MMQB ran through the scenario and still thinks he’s a solid 3-4th rounder. Coming out actually helps since the issue can be addressed head-on by the teams and it doesn’t look like he was hiding, particularly when Missouri already knew.

A good team will look at the skills and how the player fits into the scheme. Many teams need defensive bodies, and he’s pretty athletic. You don’t get to be SEC defensive player of the year without having some skills.

He might find a spot on the D-line plus special teams, and MMQB indicated that Sam’s a team player and likely to do anything the team asks of him.

I’m rather curious that some teams are willing to overlook actual criminal behavior - felonies, assaults, etc., but they’re considering skipping Sam because he’s gay even though his skills suggest he belongs in the NFL.

If his skills say he belongs, a team will pick him up.

And he could bring a bounce on merchandise sales too, especially if he is as good as his accolades indicate that he is.

199 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:07:42am

re: #183 makeitstop

Somebody’s gonna get an absolute steal in that draft.

Seriously. SEC Defensive Player of the Year. Led the SEC in tackles and sacks. Finalist for the Lombardi Award. And now he’s somehow a less attractive draft candidate because he’s gay? Pfft. Someone is going to get a hell of a deal with him.

And honestly? I admire the kid for coming out before he gets drafted. Not only does it make clear which teams are stupid about these things and which ones aren’t, but it allows him a real life later on. Could you imagine the shitstorm if he got drafted first then came out, or worse, if he stayed in the closet and then got outed? Better to be upfront about it now.

200 danarchy  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:08:39am

re: #181 William Barnett-Lewis

My guess is he’s not as good as some but more than good enough for the NFL and the team that gets him will get a bargain with a chip on his shoulder about proving himself.

The reason he was originally a mid round estimate is because he is undersized for his position. Anyone that drafts him will probably move him fro DE to outside linebacker. One thing a lot of teams want to avoid is off field distractions. They may be willing to overlook it for a first round prospect, but it will make it that much tougher for a mid round guy. Someone will draft him and will get a decent deal. He won’t be an immediate starter so off field distractions wont be a huge issue and by the time he is starting I imagine it will be no big deal.

201 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:10:00am

The -ac on the Intercept tweets is Andy Carvin. Here’s a short bio from a year ago:

Andy Carvin is Senior Social Media Strategist for NPR, and often described as the media revolutionary whose work not only told the world what was happening in closed societies, but brought thousands into the streets to protest for democracy. - See more at: press.journalism.cuny.edu

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:10:35am
203 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:11:08am

re: #198 lawhawk

I’d be delighted if the Packers picked him up & less so if he ended up in either Chicago or Detroit ;) (Mn wouldn’t matter. They’re too fubar’d for several more years). I wanted to point out, though, that there could be a legitimate argument made about his last season’s numbers.

204 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:11:09am

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

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lol, your call is very important to us…

205 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:11:14am
206 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:11:18am

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Mona Holland is in ur tweets, dissin ur statues.

207 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:12:14am

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

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208 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:13:09am

You’re really *OLD* if you know what a *broken record* sounds like.

209 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:13:30am

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel

WHAT IF THE IRANIAN SHIPS GET ORDERS TO ATTACK OUR COAST?

In that case, there will be a brief fight, as the sailors throw their Revolutionary Guard minders overboard and make for port to ask for asylum.

No, they’d likely follow orders and then we’d blown their ships apart.

But that’s not going to happen and its not worth talking about.

210 EmmaAnne  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:13:57am

re: #160 Lidane

So Rand Paul isn’t the only one stuck in 1998:

Right goes back to the ’90s with new Hillary report

At this rate, the 2016 election will end up being a referendum on the Clinton impeachment. WTF.

We could not get that lucky.

211 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:14:37am

re: #205 Pie-onist Overlord

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Poor Sirota, cheering Glenn from the sidelines rather than from the comfy white male offices of The Intercept.fail

212 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:14:51am

re: #195 Charles Johnson

I’ve seen a few ZOMG DUE PROCESS tweets on my TL. I’m assuming these people are willingly skipping over the whole “active member of Al-Qaeda plotting attacks” angle. Also, he’s in an area where we can’t get to him with the military wtihout causing a massive international shitstorm.

I’m curious what these idiots think we should do. Should we just wait until he carries out an attack and hope we can get to him somehow? WTF.

213 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:16:11am

Server database stored on Google Cloud. They have a 30 day trial!!!

214 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:16:14am

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel

WHAT IF THE IRANIAN SHIPS GET ORDERS TO ATTACK OUR COAST?

In that case, there will be a brief fight, as the sailors throw their Revolutionary Guard minders overboard and make for port to ask for asylum.

WE NEEED A CITIZEN’S FLOTILLA FULL OF 2ND AMENDMENT LOVING BOAT OWNERS!!

215 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:17:08am

re: #212 Lidane

I’ve seen a few ZOMG DUE PROCESS tweets on my TL. I’m assuming these people are willingly skipping over the whole “active member of Al-Qaeda plotting attacks” angle. Also, he’s in an area where we can’t get to him with the military wtihout causing a massive international shitstorm.

I’m curious what these idiots think we should do. Should we just wait until he carries out an attack and hope we can get to him somehow? WTF.

We should serve him with a subpoena. Dispatch a process server to the badlands of Yemen!

216 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:17:16am

re: #203 William Barnett-Lewis

I’d be delighted if the Packers picked him up & less so if he ended up in either Chicago or Detroit ;) (Mn wouldn’t matter. They’re too fubar’d for several more years). I wanted to point out, though, that there could be a legitimate argument made about his last season’s numbers.

I’d like to see him as part of the Bears defense, myself. But he’d draw some serious fan hate, since an openly-gay player would bring the bigots out of the woodwork.

217 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:18:58am

re: #214 b.d.

WE NEEED A CITIZEN’S FLOTILLA FULL OF 2ND AMENDMENT LOVING BOAT OWNERS!!

Now that would be a disaster: Drunken wingnuts get lost, sail into Tampico, mistake the locals for Iranian invaders…….

218 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:20:48am

re: #210 EmmaAnne

We could not get that lucky.

It’s already started.

219 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:21:04am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I’d like to see him as part of the Bears defense, myself. But he’d draw some serious fan hate, since an openly-gay player would bring the bigots out of the woodwork.

He’d draw even more hate if he’d gotten drafted first before coming out, or if he’d stayed closeted and gotten outed later on.

I hope whatever team drafts him realizes that he’s done them a favor by coming out now and getting it out in the open. Not only can he live openly and just focus on the task at hand, but they can get a PR strategy in place to rebuff the media.

220 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:22:47am

Oh, I forgot to include the obvious puns about the GG site’s problems.

Performance anxiety.

If your site is down for more than four hours, consult a real IT expert. /

221 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:31:04am

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

Site status: we’re still working on the stability issues. Sorry if this is beginning to sound like a broken record.

Hell, Greenwald’s been sounding like a broken record for months now, why should his site be any different?
/

222 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:31:39am

re: #220 lawhawk

Oh, I forgot to include the obvious puns about the GG site’s problems.

Performance anxiety.

If your site is down for more than four hours, consult a real IT expert. /

New Computer Viagra - for when you’re server won’t stay up.

We don’t have room for the full list of potential side-effects.

223 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:33:01am

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: I hate it when small local cell dealers spam the Craigslist “For sale” listings.

I’ve been without a cell phone since November, when I accidentally left mine on the back of my car and drove off.

I don’t have a fortune to spend on a new phone (I’m not upgrade eligible with my carrier until November) and I haven’t yet found much in my $150 range.

It hasn’t been terribly inconvenient being without one as I have a wifi tablet that’s substituted in some ways, but of course I am still stuck paying full price for mobile service that I can’t use because of the contract.

Hopefully I’ll find a good deal soon.

Hit eBay…as one who’s sold more than a couple of phones after I or one of my brothers have upgraded, surely there’s a decent phone in your price range.

224 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:45:38am

re: #199 Lidane

Seriously. SEC Defensive Player of the Year. Led the SEC in tackles and sacks. Finalist for the Lombardi Award. And now he’s somehow a less attractive draft candidate because he’s gay? Pfft. Someone is going to get a hell of a deal with him.

And honestly? I admire the kid for coming out before he gets drafted. Not only does it make clear which teams are stupid about these things and which ones aren’t, but it allows him a real life later on. Could you imagine the shitstorm if he got drafted first then came out, or worse, if he stayed in the closet and then got outed? Better to be upfront about it now.

Thing is, Sam came out to his team last year and, from what I’ve heard or read, it was an open secret of sorts to others who know him. That said, some of the sports talking heads are saying that the rumor mill had been grinding some about this in recent months, so Sam decided to get out in front of this now; better to do that than to wind up on a team full of, owned by, or coached by homophobes (Minnesota Vikings, I’m looking at you).

225 BusyMonster  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:13:40pm

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

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LOL, Greenwald has sounded like a broken record for a long, long time.

226 BusyMonster  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:16:47pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet their IT team consists of little more than a few dudebros who are either still attending or just got out of college, no doubt paid as little as Greenwald et. al could get away with.

I’m visualizing some of the little punks who have shown up in my department over the last few years. Yeah. The guys who steal 300 lines of code off Github and tell me they “wrote a script.”

227 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:01:31pm

re: #196 Amory Blaine

Thanks. My power went out last night, so I missed all the late night commentary.


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