Anti-Immigrant Leader Mark Krikorian Cites White Supremacist in National Review Column

NRO’s ongoing white nationalist problem
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Right Wing Watch notices today that in his latest column for the National Review, Center for Immigration Studies director Mark Krikorian is openly citing infamous white nationalist Sam Francis: Krikorian Cites White Nationalist in Anti-Reform Pitch.

Mark Krikorian

In his latest column for the National Review Online, Krikorian responds to a New York Times report this weekend that President Obama’s DACA order has created a backlog of immediate family members of U.S. citizens who are now separated from their families as they wait an unconscionably long time for visas.

Krikorian, of course, sees this not as an administrative failure that might be fixed by White House attention or a comprehensive immigration reform package, but as an indictment of the very concept of immigration reform. To back up his case, he cites a term, “anarcho-tyranny,” coined by white nationalist Sam Francis in his fight against multiculturalism and ” the transformation of American society by millions of aliens .”

“I wasn’t a fan of Sam Francis,” Krikorian writes, “but his concept of ’ anarcho-tyranny’ describes this perfectly.”

We’re glad to learn that Krikorian “wasn’t a fan” of Francis, who edited a white supremacist journal and wanted to seal the border and impose “fertility controls on nonwhites.”

Lovely. This is like saying, “I wasn’t a fan of Hitler, but he did have a way with words.”

And of course, this is far from the first time white nationalists have appeared in the pages of National Review:

National Review’s John Derbyshire Publishes Stunningly Racist Article at White Nationalist Site
National Review Writer Robert Weissberg Attends White Nationalist Gathering
Yes, Another White Nationalist at National Review

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260 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:45:18pm

“We’re not racists. We don’t know why they keep supporting us.”

aka

“Why do all these gay men keep sucking my dick?”

2 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:46:10pm

“I wasn’t a fan of Sam Francis,” Krikorian writes, “but his concept of ’ anarcho-tyranny’ describes this perfectly.”

Translation:

Sam Francis was awesome but we can’t say that because political correctness.

3 Testy Toad T  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:49:12pm

Well, to be perfectly frank, if one wants to cite others in an anti-immigration screed, I’m not sure there are a lot of potential sources who aren’t white supremacists.

4 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:50:35pm

re: #3 Testy Toad T

Well, to be perfectly frank, if one wants to cite others in an anti-immigration screed, I’m not sure there are a lot of potential sources who aren’t white supremacists.

There is that.

5 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:51:30pm

Anti-immigrationists: A person who is afraid new immigrants will treat them the way they treated natives in the past.

6 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:51:58pm

Here’s a photo of Sam Francis. White supremacists are some of the most un-evolved looking people.

White supremacist Sam Francis

7 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:54:24pm

This is like saying, “I wasn’t a fan of Hitler, but he did have a way with words.”

8 Testy Toad T  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 12:55:33pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Here’s a photo of Sam Francis. White supremacists are some of the most un-evolved looking people.

It doesn’t seem at all implausible that the least-self-confident people are the ones most prone to falling into the trap of ascribing increased value to themselves based upon sharing a [gender/religion/skin color] with other people that they consider to be especially successful.

9 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:02:07pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This is like saying, “I wasn’t a fan of Hitler, but he did have a way with words.”

That’s usually “sure knew how to make an autobahn”.

10 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:03:33pm

The real challenge is finding NR writers that aren’t white supremacists.

11 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:04:14pm

re: #10 Lidane

The real challenge is finding NR writers that aren’t white supremacists.

…

I got nothing.

12 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:04:20pm

“Krikorian”. Hmm, that name sounds a lot like it comes from a people who were considered “alien” by the Ottoman Turkish government around about 1915 and had their own population “controlled” with extreme prejudice.

But I’m sure the irony is lost on our Marky. As is the irony of people named “Horowitz” and “Gellar” speaking of Muslims in much the same way the Tsarist media spoke of Jews in the late 19th/early 20th century.

13 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:05:50pm

Hey Charles, the New Comments button isn’t updating when a new comment is posted. Using FF v27.

14 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:06:19pm

re: #8 Testy Toad T

It doesn’t seem at all implausible that the least-self-confident people are the ones most prone to falling into the trap of ascribing increased value to themselves based upon sharing a [gender/religion/skin color] with other people that they consider to be especially successful.

I knew a guy who didn’t think of himself as a racist, but he was. He once asked me why I wasn’t proud of being white, what with all the good shit White People and Western Culture had accomplished. That seemed really strange to me, since I hadn’t done any of it. Why should I be proud of stuff done by others?

And shouldn’t I be ashamed, then, of shit like slavery, the genocide of the Native Americans, WWII and the Holocaust, which were also accomplished by White People?

I think it’s true that if you don’t feel good about yourself and your own accomplishments, you latch onto stuff like being proud to be white. It’s like being proud to be tall, or left handed.

15 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:09:32pm

I laughed.

16 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:10:25pm
17 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:11:51pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

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18 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:12:02pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

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A bit ironic.

19 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:12:10pm

re: #15 Kragar

I laughed.

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Heeheeheehee….

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:12:23pm

Major explosion, injuries reported at Peterborough facility
100 firefighters sent to NH Ball Bearings

Read more: wmur.com

21 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:12:48pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

TOMORROW: Thousands are planning an online protest to end mass govt surveillance. I’m joining them- will you? thedaywefightback.org

I would send the NSA the key to the front door before I’d give a Rand Paul website my email address.

22 Testy Toad T  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:13:20pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

I assume “participating in an online protest” is code for “petulantly bitching about the NSA on Facebook, so that Facebook can track who makes these complaints and then target specific dudebro advertising at them”

23 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:14:32pm

re: #22 Testy Toad T

I assume “participating in an online protest” is code for “petulantly bitching about the NSA on Facebook, so that Facebook can track who makes these complaints and then target specific dudebro advertising at them”

Special prices on tin foil, for example.

24 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:14:33pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

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“Online protest”? How does that work? Do they sit around in a chatroom and chant “Stop the spying!”?

25 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:14:59pm

re: #15 Kragar

The guy sounds like a real piece of work. It’s not just gays he won’t serve, it’s pretty much anyone to the left of Ted Nugent. Well, I hope the magic of the free market ends his run as a “business owner” in short order.

26 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:15:11pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

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Face palm

27 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:15:21pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

“Online protest”? How does that work? Do they sit around in a chatroom and chant “Stop the spying!”?

No, they just post cat pics.

28 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:15:22pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

“Online protest”? How does that work? Do they sit around in a chatroom and chant “Stop the spying!”?

Drum circle MP3s.

29 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:15:34pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

30 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:15:35pm

re: #23 GeneJockey

Special prices on tin foil, for example.

Bitcoin ETFs!

31 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:16:39pm

re: #26 Kragar

From the site:

Face palm

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THEY CAN TRACK YOU THAT WAY!!!

32 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:16:45pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

“Online protest”? How does that work? Do they sit around in a chatroom and chant “Stop the spying!”?

I’m sure the various Ukranians, Egyptians, Iranians, and others who have, you know, risked life and limb to protest against governments will be shedding a tear for these brave dissidents.

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33 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:17:30pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

I would send the NSA the key to the front door before I’d give a Rand Paul website my email address.

Yeah, Paul will sell his lists to anyone.

34 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:17:40pm

The commentator for this Biathlon race is getting really excited. Wow.

35 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:17:54pm

re: #32 Ian G.

I’m sure the various Ukranians, Egyptians, Iranians, and others who have, you know, risked life and limb to protest against governments will be shedding a tear for these brave dissidents.

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“I’m so dedicated to the cause, I’ve chosen not to leave my computer to bathe!”

36 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:18:58pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Major explosion, injuries reported at Peterborough facility
100 firefighters sent to NH Ball Bearings

Read more: wmur.com

Patients needing decontamination.

37 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:19:28pm
38 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:20:09pm

re: #36 Varek Raith

Patients needing decontamination.

Beryllium?

39 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:20:23pm

re: #32 Ian G.

I’m sure the various Ukranians, Egyptians, Iranians, and others who have, you know, risked life and limb to protest against governments will be shedding a tear for these brave dissidents.

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We’re totally at risk of dying here too! Haven’t they ever heard of St. Edward of Snowden who fled to Russia so he could be free?

40 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:20:27pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Major explosion, injuries reported at Peterborough facility
100 firefighters sent to NH Ball Bearings

Read more: wmur.com

Wow. I hope things aren’t too bad there. I’m familiar with NHBB. We sold their aerospace grade rod ends and spherical bearings for auto racing uses where I used to work.

41 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:21:43pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Beryllium?

Not sure yet. Local hospitals also were told to expect HazMat patients.

42 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:22:14pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

“Online protest”? How does that work? Do they sit around in a chatroom and chant “Stop the spying!”?

And where do we drummers form the drum lines???

Rata tap tap boom, shsssshhh.

43 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:22:26pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

Is this like the Trucker protest driving into DC and causing traffic except online? /

44 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:22:38pm

re: #42 ObserverArt

And where do we drummers form the drum lines???

Rata tap tap boom, shsssshhh.

Out.

Now.

45 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:23:07pm

re: #43 Bulworth

Is this like the Trucker protest driving into DC and causing traffic except online? /

Yes, they’ll be downloading huge files all day to slow up traffic.

46 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:23:47pm

re: #45 GeneJockey

Yes, they’ll be downloading huge files all day to slow up traffic.

My torrents!!

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47 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:24:04pm

re: #45 GeneJockey

Maybe it means they’ll spam the metadata./

48 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:24:20pm

Headed our way. We’re only 74 mi from there as the crow flies.

49 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:24:47pm

re: #45 GeneJockey

Yes, they’ll be downloading huge files all day to slow up traffic.

Could just stream all 3 parts of Atlas Shrugged.

50 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:25:40pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Here’s a photo of Sam Francis. White supremacists are some of the most un-evolved looking people.

There’s a 1991 documentary called “Blood in the Face” that centers around a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Idaho. They come across as a very weird and not particularly erudite bunch of bumpkins who get together to play dress-up and speak their secret code language to each other while bitching about how hard it is to be white Christians because The Jew and His Puppet The Black Man are keeping them down.

Before the war, Hitler was often described in the press outside Germany as being nothing more than a pathetically silly buffoon who exhibited comic grandiosity off the scale. That’s what a lot of the guys in the documentary are like. Just a bunch of wacky goobers that you’d be hesitant to let them paint a barn unsupervised, let alone run anything important. And “Bob” help us all if they ever manage to attain any real political power.

51 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:26:41pm

re: #15 Kragar

It’s a lot harder being an as$hole these days. //

52 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:28:11pm

re: #51 Bulworth

It’s a lot harder being an as$hole these days. //

And yet there seem to be so many more of them.

53 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:29:13pm

Taxes are filed. Ow. But even with paying taxes on my regular income, the 401(k) I cashed out and the UI benefits I got, I’m still okay. At least for now.

Would be nice if some of these applications I’m sending out would pay off. Blah.

54 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:29:27pm

So, an online forum, huh?

Will there be some sort of moderator online? Yes?

FASCISTS!

Any way to prove other members are not, in fact, NSA plants to gather info? No?

ITS JUST LIKE NAZI GERMANY!

55 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:30:47pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This is like saying, “I wasn’t a fan of Hitler, but he did have a way with words.”

Good eye for clothes, too.
/

56 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:31:13pm

There’s privacy on the Internet just like there’s virgins in a brothel.

57 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:31:35pm

re: #44 Kragar

Out.

Now.

Well, at least there will be less chance for pepper spray in an online protest. That is if they can’t send that over the net too.

*cough*cough*…reaching for the network connection…

58 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:31:56pm

re: #54 Kragar

So, an online forum, huh?

Will there be some sort of moderator online? Yes?

FASCISTS!

Any way to prove other members are not, in fact, NSA plants to gather info? No?

ITS JUST LIKE NAZI GERMANY!

No better way to organize a serious anti-authoritarian underground than FaceBook.

59 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:33:03pm

re: #57 ObserverArt

Well, at least there will be less chance for pepper spray in an online protest. That is if they can’t send that over the net too.

*cough*cough*…reaching for the network connection…

I got sprayed in the face with mace!!! No, wait, it’s just Cheeto dust.

60 Ace-o-aces  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:33:19pm

Sam Francis!? They’re quoting that asshat now? To give you an idea, this guy was too racist for Dinesh D’Souza!

en.wikipedia.org

And here’s how his career ended:

For many years the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, owned by Richard Mellon Scaife, was the only mainstream paper carrying his column but they dropped it in 2004 after Francis wrote a column complaining about implicit miscegenation in a skit about Desperate Housewives aired during ABC’s Monday Night Football. Francis denounced the advertisement, which featured sexual innuendo between a black football player and a white actress, arguing that “The point was not just to hurl a pie in the face of morals and good taste but also of white racial and cultural identity.” The advertisement, argued Francis, implicitly argued that “interracial sex is normal and legitimate,” an idea that Francis saw as “fairly radical.” Francis went on to argue that “breaking down the sexual barriers between the races is a major weapon of cultural destruction.”

61 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:34:55pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

No better way to organize a serious anti-authoritarian underground than FaceBook.

And just look at all the big name sponsors…

Wait just a frickin’ minute!

62 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:34:58pm

re: #60 Ace-o-aces

Sam Francis!? They’re quoting that asshat now? To give you an idea, this guy was too racist for Dinesh D’Souza!

en.wikipedia.org

And here’s how his career ended:

I guess he was afraid that once women went black, etc., and then what chance would an ugly little toad like him have?

63 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:35:17pm

re: #54 Kragar

So, an online forum, huh?

Will there be some sort of moderator online? Yes?

FASCISTS!

Any way to prove other members are not, in fact, NSA plants to gather info? No?

ITS JUST LIKE NAZI GERMANY!

Just think how easy it will be to say 40,000,000 people attended. There will be no need to dig up old Washington protest images to show how big the crowd was.

The Nuremberg rallies can’t touch this!

64 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:36:09pm

re: #60 Ace-o-aces

Sam Francis!? They’re quoting that asshat now? To give you an idea, this guy was too racist for Dinesh D’Souza!

en.wikipedia.org

And here’s how his career ended:

For many years the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, owned by Richard Mellon Scaife, was the only mainstream paper carrying his column but they dropped it in 2004 after Francis wrote a column complaining about implicit miscegenation in a skit about Desperate Housewives aired during ABC’s Monday Night Football. Francis denounced the advertisement, which featured sexual innuendo between a black football player and a white actress, arguing that “The point was not just to hurl a pie in the face of morals and good taste but also of white racial and cultural identity.” The advertisement, argued Francis, implicitly argued that “interracial sex is normal and legitimate,” an idea that Francis saw as “fairly radical.” Francis went on to argue that “breaking down the sexual barriers between the races is a major weapon of cultural destruction.”

Sounds like something posted on Stormfront; granted, a bit more eloquent, but the message is identical.

65 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:36:59pm

Guardian via Raw Story
George Orwell was hailed a hero for fighting in Spain. Today he’d be guilty of terrorism

Last week a British man who called himself Abu Suleiman al-Britani drove a truck full of explosives into the gate of Halab prison in Aleppo. The explosion, in which he died, allowed rebel fighters to swarm into the jail and release 300 prisoners. Was it terrorism or was it heroism? Terrorism, according to many commentators.

It’s true that he carried out this act in the name of the al-Nusra Front, which the British government treats as synonymous with al-Qaida. But can anyone claim that liberating the inmates of Syrian government prisons is not a good thing?

66 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:37:05pm

re: #60 Ace-o-aces

Sam Francis!? They’re quoting that asshat now? To give you an idea, this guy was too racist for Dinesh D’Souza!

en.wikipedia.org

And here’s how his career ended:

Can’t get past calling the Pittsburgh Tribune “mainstream’. It’s a hobby-horse for that nutcase Mellon-Scaife, and had never turned a profit when last I looked. M-S is the bankroll for the ‘detective’ that spent the Clinton administration propping up conspiracy theories.

67 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:37:10pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Just think how easy it will be to say 40,000,000 people attended. There will be no need to dig up old Washington protest images to show how big the crowd was.

The Nuremberg rallies can’t touch this!

40,000,000 people attended our protest! - Rand Paul

More like 27,382 - NSA

68 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:37:38pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Just think how easy it will be to say 40,000,000 people attended. There will be no need to dig up old Washington protest images to show how big the crowd was.

The Nuremberg rallies can’t touch this!

Say what you will, at least there you knew if they were wearing pants

69 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:37:51pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Just think how easy it will be to say 40,000,000 people attended. There will be no need to dig up old Washington protest images to show how big the crowd was.

The Nuremberg rallies can’t touch this!

“Millions of Americans showed up to protest!”
“Are you sure they were all unique IDs, each an individual American instead of socks?”
“Who wants to know? THE NSA?!”

70 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:38:05pm

re: #68 Kragar

Say what you will, at least there you knew if they were wearing pants

Short, leather ones.

71 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:38:27pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Guardian via Raw Story
George Orwell was hailed a hero for fighting in Spain. Today he’d be guilty of terrorism

by George “Moonbat” Monbiot

72 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:38:48pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Guardian via Raw Story
George Orwell was hailed a hero for fighting in Spain. Today he’d be guilty of terrorism

Uh yeah, I’ll claim it’s not a good thing.

73 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:38:50pm

re: #67 GeneJockey

40,000,000 people attended our protest! - Rand Paul

More like 27,382 - NSA

Oops! Who can you trust these days.

By the way, is Randy asking for a big flash mob or what?

74 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:39:21pm
75 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:39:33pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I got sprayed in the face with mace!!! No, wait, it’s just Cheeto dust.

OWS supporters still shocked assaulting police is still a crime

Occupy activist faces up to seven years in jail for ‘assault’ on police officer

• Defence to claim blow from elbow was unintentional
• Cecily McMillan, 25, has spent two years awaiting trial

76 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:39:43pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Oops! Who can you trust these days.

By the way, is Randy asking for a big flash mob or what?

The Paulian term for that is “moneybomb”.

77 jaunte  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:39:51pm
“If George Orwell and Laurie Lee were to return from the Spanish civil war today,”

it would be time travel.

78 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:41:13pm

re: #77 jaunte

it would be time travel.

“We’ve been on that fricking boat for years!”

79 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:41:13pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Uh yeah, I’ll claim it’s not a good thing.

I have mixed feelings. I would much prefer he blow himself up in Syria rather than London. It’s the Islamist fighters who return that I’m worried about.

80 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:41:41pm

re: #77 jaunte

it would be time travel.

lol

81 jaunte  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:42:12pm

If Harry Turtledove wrote for the Guardian…

82 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:42:40pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

I have mixed feelings. I would much prefer he blow himself up in Syria rather than London. It’s the Islamist fighters who return that I’m worried about.

A terrorist blowing up the entrance to a prison in order to let all his buddies out is now apparently a “good thing” because dudebros have decided that, between the regime and the terrorists, they’d rather side with the terrorists.

83 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:42:57pm

re: #81 jaunte

If Harry Turtledove wrote for the Guardian…

The Confederate Secret Service would have won the war.

84 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:43:07pm

re: #81 jaunte

If Harry Turtledove wrote for the Guardian…

Even he’d balk at the idea of terrorists being the “good guys.”

85 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:43:21pm

Its almost as if governments don’t want civilians fighting wars overseas when it could cause dangerous repercussions at home later.

86 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:44:43pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

A terrorist blowing up the entrance to a prison in order to let all his buddies out is now apparently a “good thing” because dudebros have decided that, between the regime and the terrorists, they’d rather side with the terrorists.

I still have no idea which is the worst side in Syria. Beyond that, we need to separate courage from politics and morals. Every bad idea has had true heroes.

87 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:45:26pm

re: #50 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There’s a 1991 documentary called “Blood in the Face” that centers around a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Idaho. They come across as a very weird and not particularly erudite bunch of bumpkins who get together to play dress-up and speak their secret code language to each other while bitching about how hard it is to be white Christians because The Jew and His Puppet The Black Man are keeping them down.

Before the war, Hitler was often described in the press outside Germany as being nothing more than a pathetically silly buffoon who exhibited comic grandiosity off the scale. That’s what a lot of the guys in the documentary are like. Just a bunch of wacky goobers that you’d be hesitant to let them paint a barn unsupervised, let alone run anything important. And “Bob” help us all if they ever manage to attain any real political power.

This is, indeed, my fear about someone like Sarah Palin. She’s extremely good at tapping into the resentment of privileged white folks fearing the loss of that privilege, and though she’s fairly unpopular with the general population these days, I could foresee a path of unfortunate events that could put her or someone like her in the White House.

88 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:46:05pm
89 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:47:36pm

re: #87 GeneJockey

This is, indeed, my fear about someone like Sarah Palin. She’s extremely good at tapping into the resentment of privileged white folks fearing the loss of that privilege, and though she’s fairly unpopular with the general population these days, I could foresee a path of unfortunate events that could put her or someone like her in the White House.

All she (or the next one) would need is a severe depression during an H. Clinton administration. Unemployment at 25% for 4 years should do it.

90 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:48:02pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

I still have no idea which is the worst side in Syria. Beyond that, we need to separate courage from politics and morals. Every bad idea has had true heroes.

Careful now. Suggesting that being willing to die for a cause, even a horrible one, is not cowardice lost Bill Maher his gig on ABC.

91 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:48:20pm

Live updates and streaming video from WMUR at livewire.wmur.com

92 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:49:31pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Guardian via Raw Story
George Orwell was hailed a hero for fighting in Spain. Today he’d be guilty of terrorism

What the fuck? Now we’re comparing a heroic liberal/socialist like Orwell to an Islamist nutcase suicide bomber?

Is it really too difficult to understand that both sides in the Syrian civil war might be bad guys? I mean, the Eastern Front of World War II sure didn’t have any good guys.

93 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:50:52pm

re: #92 Ian G.

What the fuck? Now we’re comparing a heroic liberal/socialist like Orwell to an Islamist nutcase suicide bomber?

Is it really too difficult to understand that both sides in the Syrian civil war might be bad guys? I mean, the Eastern Front of World War II sure didn’t have any good guys.

I suspect they were mostly good guys.

94 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:51:01pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Guardian via Raw Story
George Orwell was hailed a hero for fighting in Spain. Today he’d be guilty of terrorism

Was it terrorism or was it heroism? Terrorism, according to many commentators.

Does Moonbat-Monbiot tell us who these “many commentators” are who describe this act, itself, as terrorism? I smell a strawman. His characterization of the Terrorism Act is incomplete and misleading as well.
There is no doubt at all that the bomber’s organization, Al Nusra, is a terrorist group. Not everything done by a terrorist group, however, is terrorism. Al Qaeda famously provided food and medical facilities in some of its operating areas. Does Moonbat think this justifies the 9-11 attacks. Come to think of it, he probably does.

95 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:51:27pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

All she (or the next one) would need is a severe depression during an H. Clinton administration. Unemployment at 25% for 4 years should do it.

I’ve often thought that if Obama had had the same timing WRT the crash as FDR, things would be very, very different. In 2008 and 2009, wingnuts blamed Obama for economic shit that happened before or right around the time he got into office, then blamed him for it not all miraculously being fixed overnight. If a year or so had passed before he took office, that would be a lot more difficult, and the case for more stimulus a lot easier to make.

96 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:51:32pm

re: #50 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There’s a 1991 documentary called “Blood in the Face” that centers around a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Idaho. They come across as a very weird and not particularly erudite bunch of bumpkins who get together to play dress-up and speak their secret code language to each other while bitching about how hard it is to be white Christians because The Jew and His Puppet The Black Man are keeping them down.

Before the war, Hitler was often described in the press outside Germany as being nothing more than a pathetically silly buffoon who exhibited comic grandiosity off the scale. That’s what a lot of the guys in the documentary are like. Just a bunch of wacky goobers that you’d be hesitant to let them paint a barn unsupervised, let alone run anything important. And “Bob” help us all if they ever manage to attain any real political power.

That’s why Krikorian needs to be taken as a serious threat. He’s the ‘intellectual face’ of white supremacism, partly because he tries to keep the obvious rhetoric out of his work.

This is from 2008, written by American Conservative co-founder (and editor in 2008) Scott McConnell:

A dozen years ago, when I first saw Mark Krikorian—then the new director of the Center for Immigration Studies—I thought he was the best possible voice for making the immigration-restriction argument persuasive to Americans. Young, wonkish, sufficiently ethnic in background and sensibility to be empathetic to the immigrant experience, highly intelligent with a firm grasp of all the policy detail deployed by both sides in the debate, Krikorian had an uncanny ability to normalize the issue, to dampen its emotive aspects and defuse the smear words (nativist, racist, etc.) that proponents of high immigration habitually threw at their opponents. The growth in influence of the Center for Immigration Studies under his leadership confirms this judgment. Especially striking is the headway Krikorian has made in courting influential Republicans: this book is blurbed by both David Frum and Bill Bennett. But history works in curious ways, and the embrace of immigration reform by the conservative establishment presents some difficulties of its own.

Here’s the end of it:

By becoming part and parcel of the Republican Right, the immigration-reform movement risks becoming absorbed by the Right’s jingoism, turning into another means of expressing American superiority over foreigners, people to be kept out at home and bombed abroad. This may not be Kirkorian’s sentiment, but it is the mindset of many of the companions with whom the immigration-reform movement now travels. While such allies may fuel the movement’s success, they render it a mixed blessing.

That’s the dudebro analysis. They don’t want the war-mongers to mess up their anti-immigration schemes. From the middle:

As the immigration-reduction movement has sunk deeper roots into the conservative movement and begun to acquire a mass-electoral base, it has also picked up some of the political style and impulses of the prowar Right. Talk-radio hosts who are anti-immigrant are especially anti-Muslim and noisy enthusiasts for bombing other countries.

They want a white homeland that keeps to itself. They don’t want immigrants who will become neo-cons, any more than they want immigrants who will become Democrats.

Another Am Con racist, Daniel Larison, takes McConnell to task over a tiny point.

If most immigrants are Mexican, Mexicans speak Spanish and the fact that most new immigrants’ assimilation is delayed or halted by the fact that they speak Spanish, the Mexican origins of most of the new immigration would seem to be a major part of the current predicament. One need not believe that Aztlan is about to rise up to recognize that Mexico is unusually aggressive in its cultivation of emigrants through its consular offices, as Krikorian acknowledges, and that its President has continued a bad habit of President Fox by uttering phrases that Mexico is wherever there are Mexicans. Even coming from a country with a less well-established sense of historical grievance in an era where unilateral declarations of independence were not sponsored by major powers, this sort of language would have an irredentist ring to it.

I included that because so many are ignorant about Larison’s racism.

97 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:51:52pm

One of the key concepts regarding national authority is called “The monopoly on violence”. The idea that any threat or use of force from a nation comes with the sanction of the state, and not by other actors. Without a monopoly on violence, other states would have no reason to trust a state when it comes to negotiating peace treaties, declaring war, etc.

Its one of they key reasons why peace deals are so hard to broker in the Middle East. It makes no sense to declare peace with a faction when as soon as you do, half of its membership splits and forms an all new faction to keep fighting.

Civilized states have a responsibility to ensure its citizens are not engaging in foreign wars.

98 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:52:40pm

re: #87 GeneJockey

This is, indeed, my fear about someone like Sarah Palin. She’s extremely good at tapping into the resentment of privileged white folks fearing the loss of that privilege, and though she’s fairly unpopular with the general population these days, I could foresee a path of unfortunate events that could put her or someone like her in the White House.

I think Palin is past her “sell by” date.

99 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:53:04pm

These guys must have been graduates of suicide bombing school that blew up earlier.

100 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:54:59pm

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

Darwin Award winners.

101 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:55:37pm

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

These guys must have been graduates of suicide bombing school that blew up earlier.

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Not if we’re very, very lucky.

102 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:56:06pm

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

I think Palin is past her “sell by” date.

There’ll be another one along any time.
//

But man-o-man, did we dodge a fucking .50 cal bullet in 2008!! When I think about forgiving McCain, all I can think is, “This is some fucked up, repugnant shit. I will NEVER forgive your ass for this shit!”

103 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:57:56pm

re: #92 Ian G.

What the fuck? Now we’re comparing a heroic liberal/socialist like Orwell to an Islamist nutcase suicide bomber?

Is it really too difficult to understand that both sides in the Syrian civil war might be bad guys? I mean, the Eastern Front of World War II sure didn’t have any good guys.

It’s the internet, everything is possible.

104 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:59:24pm

It seems the weather isn’t being terribly cooperative for the Sochi Winter Olympics; it’s 61° F. during the day, causing the snow to melt.

dailymail.co.uk

105 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:59:49pm

re: #88 Lidane

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Dewhurst has already proven to the world that even with a montain of money he can lose to an empty sack. His only saving grace is that too many people are gunning for him.

106 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 1:59:54pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel

Does Moonbat-Monbiot tell us who these “many commentators” are who describe this act, itself, as terrorism? I smell a strawman. His characterization of the Terrorism Act is incomplete and misleading as well.
There is no doubt at all that the bomber’s organization, Al Nusra, is a terrorist group. Not everything done by a terrorist group, however, is terrorism. Al Qaeda famously provided food and medical facilities in some of its operating areas. Does Moonbat think this justifies the 9-11 attacks. Come to think of it, he probably does.

His point isn’t as rare as you might think. I’ve seen the same argument applied to Hamas as well.

107 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:01:35pm

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

It seems the weather isn’t being terribly cooperative for the Sochi Winter Olympics; it’s 61° F. during the day, causing the snow to melt.

dailymail.co.uk

When you schedule a winter sports event at a summer resort…..never mind.

108 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:02:09pm

re: #97 Kragar

Banda de gaitas del Batallon de San Patricio

Youtube Video

109 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:02:16pm
110 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:02:17pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I’m not exactly questioning Al Qaeda’s motives in doing that, but you do have to keep people alive if you want recruits.

111 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:02:33pm

re: #97 Kragar

One of the key concepts regarding national authority is called “The monopoly on violence”. The idea that any threat or use of force from a nation comes with the sanction of the state, and not by other actors. Without a monopoly on violence, other states would have no reason to trust a state when it comes to negotiating peace treaties, declaring war, etc.

Its one of they key reasons why peace deals are so hard to broker in the Middle East. It makes no sense to declare peace with a faction when as soon as you do, half of its membership splits and forms an all new faction to keep fighting.

Civilized states have a responsibility to ensure its citizens are not engaging in foreign wars.

And dudebros think ‘monopoly on violence’ is the same thing as TYRANNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!111!

112 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:03:13pm

Monopoly on violence

A “monopoly of the legitimate use of physical force” (sometimes controversially abbreviated to merely a monopoly on violence) is the conception of the state as expounded by sociologist Max Weber in his essay Politics as a Vocation (1919). According to Weber, a state is a “human community that (successfully) claims the monopoly of the legitimate use of physical force within a given territory.”[1] Weber’s conception of the state as holding a monopoly on legitimate force or violence over its jurisdiction has figured prominently in philosophy of law and political philosophy in the twentieth century.

…

A U.S. Army War College study notes that “In an increasingly multipolar world, rapid advances in technology and globalization have dangerously empowered nonstate actors who compete for legitimacy with states and undercut long-held constructs of national autonomy and sovereignty.”

113 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:04:01pm

Monday monday:

114 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:05:35pm

One huge difference between Orwell and Syrian free-lancers was that Orwell was in fact fighting for the recognized government of a nation state and under its legal authority. This technically violated the unenforceable Foreign Recruiting
Act of the time, but would not be a violation of the current Terrorism Act.
It would have violated many other laws of the time if Britain had been at war with Spain, as they are with Al Qaeda, but the countries were not at war.

115 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:06:25pm
116 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:07:45pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

One huge difference between Orwell and Syrian free-lancers was that Orwell was in fact fighting for the recognized government of a nation state and under its legal authority. This technically violated the unenforceable Foreign Recruiting
Act of the time, but would not be a violation of the current Terrorism Act.
It would have violated many other laws of the time if Britain had been at war with Spain, as they are with Al Qaeda, but the countries were not at war.

Viva la Quinta Brigada.

Youtube Video

117 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:08:54pm

Apollo Ackbar!
Hamas seizes Apollo statue discovered by Gaza fisherman

An extremely rare and incredibly intact statue of the Greek god Apollo, possibly worth tens of millions of dollars, has mysteriously resurfaced in Gaza only to be seized by Hamas, the Islamic terror group that controls the coastal enclave.

The statue was claimed to be found by a Gaza fisherman named Jouda Ghurab last August. Ghurab says that it took six men to lift the statue out of the water and that he used a donkey cart to transport it back to his home. Eventually, news of the rare find spread and caught the attention of Hamas.

Since then, the statue’s story has gotten more mysterious, as Hamas authorities have taken the statue to investigate it. It even appeared briefly on Ebay with a $500,000 price tag.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:09:12pm
119 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:09:21pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

Another huge difference is that Orwell was fighting to preserve the Spanish Republic against a Fascist takeover. In Syria, we don’t have anything remotely close to a republic, or anyone who would establish a republic, on either side. It’s like Iraq vs. Iran again, only within one country’s borders.

120 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:09:34pm

So I finally got Borderlands 2 over the weekend

Youtube Video

121 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:10:42pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

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Rob Ford spotted beating an ATM machine screaming, “Give me fucking quarters, asshole!”

122 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:12:52pm

re: #120 Kragar

So I finally got Borderlands 2 over the weekend

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Catch a riiiiiiiiiiide!
Let’s git you rollin’.

123 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:14:09pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Apollo Ackbar!
Hamas seizes Apollo statue discovered by Gaza fisherman

It even appeared briefly on Ebay with a $500,000 price tag.

Does that price come with free shipping?

124 Kragar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:17:22pm

re: #122 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Catch a riiiiiiiiiiide!
Let’s git you rollin’.

Youtube Video

125 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:18:09pm

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan

Does that price come with free shipping?

I doubt it. Marble is heavy.

126 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:20:28pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

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Making money from the misery of others.

Terrific.

127 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:20:39pm

re: #107 NJDhockeyfan

When you schedule a winter sports event at a summer resort…..never mind.

During the Cold War era, my ex-wife and her parents used to go to Sochi during the summer. It’s not called “The Russian Riviera” for nothing.

128 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:23:10pm

re: #92 Ian G.

What the fuck? Now we’re comparing a heroic liberal/socialist like Orwell to an Islamist nutcase suicide bomber?

Is it really too difficult to understand that both sides in the Syrian civil war might be bad guys? I mean, the Eastern Front of World War II sure didn’t have any good guys.

The Bielskis. You really want to think an absolute categorical denial like that through before issuing it. The Soviet government might not have been “good guys,” but they had loads of good people fighting for and beside them. In the strictest interpretation we probably fail the good guy test for interring thousands of our own citizens in camps because of their Japanese ancestry.

I’m certain that there are some reasonable, non fundamentalists fighting against Assad, even while admitting that they’re likely far in the minority. One probably doesn’t get far in that environment downplaying the importance of piety and religion.

129 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:24:50pm
130 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:27:29pm

I certainly hope Rodman gets all the help he needs in rehab because this story shows just how bad of shape he’s in.

Rodman drunk, vomited, defecated all over Koryo Hotel in NK

Dennis Rodman checking himself into an alcohol rehabilitation center upon returning from a trip to North Korea was the first news all over the U.S. media, but at that time, he confirmed only to the fact that he is an addict and has never recovered from the habit.

But according to a report cited by Free North Korea Radio, he was practically forced out of the hermit kingdom for his full-blown drunk and disorderly behavior.

“Rodman was drunk the whole week of his stay. And the night before he left for the U.S., he was drunk unconscious, and vomited everywhere he turned. He even urinated and emptied the bowels in the hallway,” said the source.

Workers and managers of the Koryo Hotel who witnessed the scene and had to clean the mess were reportedly at a loss for words at such barbaric and uncivilized behavior.

North Korean authorities were told of the incident and tried to contain the story from spreading like a wild fire.

131 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:31:14pm

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

I certainly hope Rodman gets all the help he needs in rehab because this story shows just how bad of shape he’s in.

Rodman drunk, vomited, defecated all over Koryo Hotel in NK

Huh.

132 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:31:18pm

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

I certainly hope Rodman gets all the help he needs in rehab because this story shows just how bad of shape he’s in.

Rodman drunk, vomited, defecated all over Koryo Hotel in NK

lol

133 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:34:25pm

“The obvious reason being shame: that taints the reputation of their Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un’s ability and discretion to screen people.

“The stench was just horrible and people are criticizing not only Rodman, but also Kim Jong-un saying that ‘No one in a right mind would be a friend with Rodman. An animal that he is,’” the source said.

“Rodman was reportedly asked out of the country with a warning “Never will you be welcome here without the completion of your alcohol abuse treatment program,” the source said.”

It’s probably not the first time some celebrity did that, esp one on the decline.

134 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:34:38pm
135 EPR-radar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:35:55pm

OT, but I want to be able to write like this when I grow up…

If Rand Paul declared tomorrow that Hillary Clinton was in league with the lizard people, Reince Priebus would sigh, and then he would drink, and then he would book himself on all the Sunday shows to say that Rand Paul’s questions about Hillary Clinton and the lizard people were legitimate things to ask, because reasons, and because, in a party that exists for no discernible self-consistent ideology other than determining who to be most afraid of and why, Bill and Hillary Clinton are the cornerstones of conservative pants-wetting terror. They are to conservative pants-wetting-terror what the pyramids are to Egypt.

dailykos.com

136 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:39:59pm
137 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:40:41pm

re: #135 EPR-radar

OT, but I want to be able to write like this when I grow up…

dailykos.com

I knew it was Hunter two sentences in. That dude is so talented.

138 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:46:34pm

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

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They did happily make their fortune drilling wells for Stalin’s Soviet Union which makes their anti-communist hypocrisy all the more telling.

Now, had a fascist government come to power in the US, they’d have been ecstatic over opportunities to serve & steal like high ranking officials in all the fascist nations indulged in.

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:46:58pm
140 abolitionist  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:49:13pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Olympic Comittee will be getting on that right quick.

141 CuriousLurker  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:50:26pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

lol

HTF can you lol at that? (That was a rhetorical question—don’t bother answering.) I dislike Rodman intensely, but the man has a serious addiction that’s causing him to publicly debase himself. Watching a fellow human being self-destruct is shouldn’t be a cause for laughter, no matter how much you dislike him. That’s just sick.

I’m not gonna hang around and read this kind of bullshit. BBL

142 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:01:10pm

re: #50 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There’s a 1991 documentary called “Blood in the Face” that centers around a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Idaho. They come across as a very weird and not particularly erudite bunch of bumpkins who get together to play dress-up and speak their secret code language to each other while bitching about how hard it is to be white Christians because The Jew and His Puppet The Black Man are keeping them down.

Before the war, Hitler was often described in the press outside Germany as being nothing more than a pathetically silly buffoon who exhibited comic grandiosity off the scale. That’s what a lot of the guys in the documentary are like. Just a bunch of wacky goobers that you’d be hesitant to let them paint a barn unsupervised, let alone run anything important. And “Bob” help us all if they ever manage to attain any real political power.

“It Can’t Happen Here”

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:01:41pm

When you correct a Liberal who Tweets a fake meme, this is how they respond:

144 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:01:48pm

Evening Lizardim.

145 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:03:04pm

re: #120 Kragar

So I finally got Borderlands 2 over the weekend

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I got that just before Christmas, and damn, is it fun!

I like the Assassin the best. But all the other characters are good too.

General best advice? Fight from behind cover. Don’t forget that you have grenades. Take the time to wander around areas and open everything. When you get to the main town, spend some time gambling. Occasionally you’ll get something really nice. Like a shotgun that when its magazine was empty you can throw it like a grenade and it starts chasing bad guys firing all the while until it hits them. Then it explodes.

Damn, the game is fun.

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:04:47pm

If you correct a wingnut for a Fake Quote they’re all like maybe jefferson didn’t say that but it teh troof!!!!!! HURR HURR KEEP TWEETING THIS JUST TO PISS OFF TEH LIBRULS!!!11 HURR HURR!!11!!!

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:05:09pm
148 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:05:38pm
149 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:06:22pm

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

If you correct a wingnut for a Fake Quote they’re all like maybe jefferson didn’t say that but it teh troof!!!!!! HURR HURR KEEP TWEETING THIS JUST TO PISS OFF TEH LIBRULS!!!11 HURR HURR!!11!!!

FAKE BUT ACCURATE!!!

150 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:11:42pm

Speaking of basketball players behaving badly, they have a major uproar in Lubbock:
OSU star Smart shoves fan in loss to Texas Tech
Smart penalized with three-game suspension

But there is more to this story. The fan who was shoved, Jeff Orr, is a fixture around Texas Tech basketball, traveling thousands of miles every year to attend games. He has often been caught engaging in aggressive and obnoxious behavior.
Athletes, Tech coach weigh in on Jeff Orr

In a 2010 game against Texas A&M, Orr can be seen making an obscene gesture at Texas A&M’s Bryan Davis after he throws down a dunk just before half time. Davis was one of the many who reacted to what happened on the basketball court Saturday night.

Davis tweeted: “The same guy that talked crazy to me for 4 years. Shaking my head, but you should never put your hands on a fan.”

Former Oklahoma State player John Lucas III recognized Orr as well.

Lucas tweeted: “I just saw the video, that same fan was at the games talking crazy even when I was in school. I don’t forget a face. He says a lot of crazy ish out of his mouth when you are in the game. And he is a grown man talking to kids the way he does.”

Texas Tech Coach Tubby Smith weighed in with his opinion after the big win.

“You know the frustration when you’re on a losing streak,” Smith said. “I’ve been there before. It can be tough, and, you know, I’m sure he regrets doing that.”

Tech completed its investigation into the incident on Sunday and announced that Orr voluntarily agreed not to attend any home or away games for the remainder of the season.

He also released a statement, saying, “I would like to take this opportunity to offer my sincere apologies to Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State, Tubby Smith and the Texas Tech Men’s Basketball program. My actions last night were inappropriate and do not reflect myself or Texas Tech - a university I dearly love. I regret calling Mr. Smart a piece of crap, but want to make it known that I did not use a racial slur of any kind.”

151 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:12:42pm

U.S. says Social Security computer outage to affect HealthCare.gov

cnbc.com

WASHINGTON, Feb 10 (Reuters) - The Obama administration on Monday said people hoping to enroll in health coverage for March 1 may have trouble applying by Saturday’s deadline because of a planned 62-hour maintenance shutdown of a Social Security Administration computer system.

“The U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS), the lead Obamacare agency, said the shutdown will prevent applicants from verifying their Social Security numbers and other data through the federal website, HealthCare.gov. Those unable to enroll because of the outage can request special enrollment for coverage beginning March 1, CMS said.

“The Social Security computer system will be down from 3 p.m. EST (2000 GMT) on Saturday until 5 a.m. EST (1000 GMT) on Tuesday, Feb. 18, CMS said. CMS said those who have already completed an application will still able to shop or select a plan through the website.”

Who plans these shutdowns, anyway? I blame this guy: ssa.gov

No, wait! He left in 2013! Still looking…

153 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:18:57pm

Yevgeny Plushenko twerks on ice!
No this is not his Olympic routine but he wins All Teh Golds!
Youtube Video

154 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:19:05pm

I’m still not finding much press coverage about the curious “leak”/trial balloon about Obama contemplating a drone strike on a US citizen. I’d love to know why this is in the press.

155 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:22:27pm

We still have an Acting Commissioner of the SSA.

ssa.gov

156 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:23:17pm

So, it was another gorgeous sunset. This must be the tradeoff here for all the snow and cold we’ve had in the NYC metro area.


Speaking of snow, they’re predicting another snow Wednesday night into Thursday, but the amount will depend on the track - at least a couple of inches, more if it doesn’t switch over to rain. This is the same storm that is going to be a mess for the Southeast too.

Know where they could use the snow and cold? Sochi. They’re looking at temps that could go into the 60s this week. It’s currently 48 degrees and raining there.

157 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:24:44pm

Kind of interesting to see the tactics of how this is done.
WATCH: U.S. Commandos Abduct Accused Al Qaeda Militant
Interesting to note the support cars blocking roads. Assuming there were more support cars blocking other not visible roads I would guess it was a crew of 20 or so people.

158 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:27:06pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

‘How Do You Surrender to a Drone?’ Jeremy Scahill Rips Obama on Drone Strikes

Same way you surrender to a SEAL sniper, you don’t. These are not bank robbers surrounded by a SWAT team. The terrorists know perfectly well how and where they can surrender. Again we seem to have a nitwit conflating immediate necessity with a legal proceeding, with a mixture of urban mythology thrown in. The latter is the belief that a violent criminal has to be warned and given a chance to surrender immediately before force is used. This is not necessarily the case in law or police procedure, let alone in war. In any case, American terrorists overseas have been warned, and their most ardent apologists in the dudebro idiot-fest would be hard pressed to deny it.

159 RadicalModerate  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:27:55pm

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

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There is one bit of inaccuracy in that story, however. It mentions that Fred C. Koch was not involved in the founding of the John Birch Society, when it is well documented that he was essentially Robert Welch’s right-hand man, and was a major source of funding of the organization.

Where some of Koch’s reported ties to Naziism might come from is that another of the original inner-circle members of the JBS was Revilo P. Oliver, who was also a co-founder of the neo-Nazi group National Alliance. It also is no secret that the sons are still affiliated with the John Birch Society movement.

160 Lancelot Link  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:35:35pm

My favorite Mark Krikorian tidbit was when he gave an anti-multiculturalism speech at the Armenian Cultural Center.

161 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:35:59pm

re: #156 lawhawk

So, it was another gorgeous sunset. This must be the tradeoff here for all the snow and cold we’ve had in the NYC metro area.

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Speaking of snow, they’re predicting another snow Wednesday night into Thursday, but the amount will depend on the track - at least a couple of inches, more if it doesn’t switch over to rain. This is the same storm that is going to be a mess for the Southeast too.

Know where they could use the snow and cold? Sochi. They’re looking at temps that could go into the 60s this week. It’s currently 48 degrees and raining there.

Even here in Ostrava, we’re looking at warmer than normal; temps in the mid 40s, which is about 8 degrees warmer than typical.

162 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:36:12pm

re: #156 lawhawk

So, it was another gorgeous sunset. This must be the tradeoff here for all the snow and cold we’ve had in the NYC metro area.

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Speaking of snow, they’re predicting another snow Wednesday night into Thursday, but the amount will depend on the track - at least a couple of inches, more if it doesn’t switch over to rain. This is the same storm that is going to be a mess for the Southeast too.

Know where they could use the snow and cold? Sochi. They’re looking at temps that could go into the 60s this week. It’s currently 48 degrees and raining there.

If that’s the same storm we’re getting here in the south, they’ve changed the prediction to 3-6 in, most of it on Wed.

163 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:41:09pm

re: #141 CuriousLurker

Thank You. Yeah it’s really fucking heee larious to watch someone kill themselves. Jesus, Killgore try some empathy and compassion FFS. I have someone in my family fighting hard against an addiction right now and the last thing it is is fucking funny. My niece watching her dad kill himself isn’t remotely amusing.

164 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:41:10pm

Speaking of multiculturalism:

Stuart Hall, ‘Godfather Of Multiculturalism,’ Dies

165 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:45:45pm

Liveleak has a slightly longer video of the operation
Footage Emerges of US Abduction of Accused Al-Qaeda Terrorist
Liveleak Video
The car that stay behind waits until people come out of the house. I assume that’s because he takes a different turn to create a diversion for the rest of the crew. Kinda cool.

166 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:46:33pm

re: #93 Decatur Deb

I suspect they were mostly good guys.

Who just wanted to go home.

167 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:47:16pm

Try it, doofus

168 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:48:34pm

re: #163 A Mom Anon

Thank You. Yeah it’s really fucking heee larious to watch someone kill themselves. Jesus, Killgore try some empathy and compassion FFS. I have someone in my family fighting hard against an addiction right now and the last thing it is is fucking funny. My niece watching her dad kill himself isn’t remotely amusing.

Sorry, but I don’t have much sympathy for Rodman. I will however aknowledge that I should have been more sympathetic to the cleaning crew. The only thing that could make living in North Korea worse is having to clean up shit and puke from an American millionaire partying with the county’s dictator. Your outrage is duly noted.

169 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:48:48pm

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

These guys must have been graduates of suicide bombing school that blew up earlier.

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i can do this. I got a C in that course in terrorist school.

170 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:48:59pm

re: #167 Pie-onist Overlord

Try it, doofus

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I’m not sure, Ben, you ever wanted to be somebody’s property in prison?

171 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:53:33pm

re: #167 Pie-onist Overlord

Try it, doofus

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It would go great, for the rest of us. For you dudebros, on the other hand, not so much.

172 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:56:30pm

Ben, you don’t want to pay taxes? Fine, I hear Somalia is nice this time of year.

173 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:58:16pm

re: #163 A Mom Anon

Thank You. Yeah it’s really fucking heee larious to watch someone kill themselves. Jesus, Killgore try some empathy and compassion FFS. I have someone in my family fighting hard against an addiction right now and the last thing it is is fucking funny. My niece watching her dad kill himself isn’t remotely amusing.

It’s KT. He jumped a psychological shark because of OWS and one of the things he lost was his sense of empathy. Be glad you weren’t around to see him laughing his ass off at students being pepper sprayed or accusing every member of OWS of rape & assault.

Ignore if possible, down ding when not & pray for the day he gets tired of his lame game.

174 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:00:17pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I’m not outraged. More like astounded at your cluelessness and lack of concern for anyone not just like you. I don’t like Rodman AT ALL, but I know an addict when I see one and he’s sick. It’s not even remotely funny either. You’re being an ass.

175 122 Year Old Obama  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:01:04pm

Captain Condescension strikes again.

176 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:03:51pm

re: #173 William Barnett-Lewis

I saw the pepper spray thing, sadly. It must be nice to be so smugly superior to everyone else. I also hope he never has to deal with addiction on a personal level, it’s not pretty, and it’s really not funny. I think I’ll take CL’s advice and log off for awhile, my own health took a downward turn today and I don’t need this crap.

177 palomino  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:03:58pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Sorry, but I don’t have much sympathy for Rodman. I will however aknowledge that I should have been more sympathetic to the cleaning crew. The only thing that could make living in North Korea worse is having to clean up shit and puke from an American millionaire partying with the county’s dictator. Your outrage is duly noted.

And your dickishness is duly noted. As well as your lack of compassion toward people with serious problems. You’re a class act, and by that I mean POS.

178 Chrysicat  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:04:18pm

Bush Detatchment Syndrome much?

179 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:04:25pm

ooh…Bridget Kelly threatened with contempt. Matthews is starting with it. That’s not the immunity she wanted.

180 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:07:20pm

Now the wingnuts are throwing a fit because some of the AFA, which they hate, is delayed?

Really?

181 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:09:04pm
182 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:09:53pm

re: #179 darthstar

ooh…Bridget Kelly threatened with contempt. Matthews is starting with it. That’s not the immunity she wanted.

Apparently the “bipartisan” nature of the investigations has broken down. Today the committee in charge of the investigation voted to basically tell Kelley and Stepien that their objections to complying with the subpoenas were BS and to turn them over at a date to be determined, yet on all six votes (three apiece), the 4 Republicans on the committee abstained.

183 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:11:20pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

Apparently the “bipartisan” nature of the investigations has broken down. Today the committee in charge of the investigation voted to basically tell Kelley and Stepien that their objections to complying with the subpoenas were BS and to turn them over at a date to be determined, yet on all six votes (three apiece), the 4 Republicans on the committee abstained.

New Jersey voters won’t stomach having their reps protecting Christie. This will be bipartisan again soon enough. Abstaining is weak objection.

184 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:12:04pm

“Christie is a bully who has ‘Beyonce-level travel needs’ ” - ha!

185 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:14:57pm

re: #183 darthstar

New Jersey voters won’t stomach having their reps protecting Christie. This will be bipartisan again soon enough. Abstaining is weak objection.

Protecting would have been “nay” votes, or at least that’s what they’ll tell voters. No, abstaining means they’re covering their own asses, allowing them to jump on the “winning” side of the line as the investigation goes further. Christie looks clean, they’ll say the whole thing was a “partisan witch hunt.” Christie looks dirty, they “wanted to know more before deciding.”

186 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:17:19pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Here’s a photo of Sam Francis. White supremacists are some of the most un-evolved looking people.

White supremacist Sam Francis

“My preeeeeciousssssss…”

187 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:26:18pm

Rebranding Watch, Indiana edition:

188 palomino  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:27:24pm

re: #186 GlutenFreeJesus

“My preeeeeciousssssss…”

Just one look and one listen to the man and you can see the supremacy of white people. He’s clearly a product of superior white man breeding.

190 palomino  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:28:29pm

re: #187 Lidane

Rebranding Watch, Indiana edition:

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Indiana is the Mississippi of the North. It will probably be the last midwestern state to legalize SSM.

191 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:30:01pm

re: #188 palomino

Just one look and one listen to the man and you can see the supremacy of white people. He’s clearly a product of superior white man breeding.

It’s a well known fact that the scientists in the white eugenics program have decided that the chin is a vestigial feature, and should be phased out.

192 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:30:16pm

re: #189 Varek Raith

Tea Party gripes: GOP leaders we’re trying to unseat ‘playing hardball’ by fighting back
Lol.

Because they’re just supposed to step aside and let the Tea Party take over. WTF.

193 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:30:45pm

re: #190 palomino

Indiana is the Mississippi of the North. It will probably be the last midwestern state to legalize SSM.

Hate to say it, but you pretty much nailed it. I love my home state, but there’s a lot of times I really want to disown it.

194 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:31:46pm

This is not a surprise:

195 palomino  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:32:38pm

re: #191 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s a well known fact that the scientists in the white eugenics program have decided that the chin is a vestigial feature, and should be phased out.

And don’t get them talking about sloping foreheads. It’s another of their “scientific” observations that belongs in the dustbin along with phrenology.

196 RadicalModerate  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:36:09pm

re: #167 Pie-onist Overlord

Try it, doofus

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By the way, Ben is bringing the stupid (and bigoted) yet again in his latest column regarding Michael Sam, the collegiate football player who publicly came out as gay over the weekend, and is expected to be one of the first players chosen in this year’s NFL draft.

Is Michael Sam’s Coming Out a Milestone, or a Media Set-Up?

Among his contentions is that Sam made this announcement to secure a high draft pick - the fact that he is a first team All-American and was named SEC Defensive Player of the Year apparently wouldn’t be enough to guarantee that - and that it’s some sort of media campaign to portray him as a victim, and it should be perfectly acceptable to hate Sam for his sexuality.

The biggest problem for Americans, however, is that there can be no victory for tolerance in this scenario. Americans who are apathetic about Sam’s sexuality - people who believe that he will (and should) be accepted without regard to his sexuality — will be castigated as unfeeling simply for stating those views. The media needs Sam’s coming out to be a big deal, because that is how they can continue to portray America as a nasty place in need of leftist cultural and governmental correctives.

The comments, are the usual mix of hardcore anti-gay as well as racist remarks, with a more than a few claiming that the whole thing was somehow orchestrated by President Obama.

197 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:39:22pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Say what you will about Dennis Rodman’s political or social leanings (or anyone else’s), but addiction of any kind is a bitch; the difference is severity and what the person in question decides to do about it.

I’m no fan of Rodman myself, but with how you’re reveling in glee at his alcoholism troubles and misfortune, you can just get fucked.

198 RadicalModerate  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:39:39pm

re: #180 b.d.

Now the wingnuts are throwing a fit because some of the AFA, which they hate, is delayed?

Really?

I’m going to assume that you mean the ACA (Affordable Care Act aka “Obamacare”) here. Because the wingnuts love the American Family Association hate group.

199 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:39:39pm

Go. Click. You’ll be glad you did.

200 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:42:06pm

Sam Francis:

Protecting the cultural integrity of Innsmouth fish-people.

201 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:44:41pm

Words fail.

Suspect in wrong-way crash has previous DUI conviction, records show

latimes.com

202 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:45:55pm

re: #198 RadicalModerate

I’m going to assume that you mean the ACA (Affordable Care Act aka “Obamacare”) here. Because the wingnuts love the American Family Association hate group.

D’oh! Of course, my memory and spelling today is awful even by my standards. Thanks.

203 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:46:46pm

re: #191 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s a well known fact that the scientists in the white eugenics program have decided that the chin is a vestigial feature, and should be phased out.

To be honest, chins are overrated. The abrupt transition from horizontal to vertical, as well as any dimples or clefts, makes them a bitch to shave. If it were all one straight slope up to the lower lip, it would be easier.

And don’t get me started on the upper lip/nose complex!

204 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:47:01pm

re: #201 Justanotherhuman

Words fail.

Suspect in wrong-way crash has previous DUI conviction, records show

latimes.com

Authorities say Culbreath was drunk when she drove her 2013 Camaro the wrong way on the westbound 60 Freeway and hit two other vehicles

Another case of affluenza?

205 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:48:11pm

re: #203 GeneJockey

To be honest, chins are overrated. The abrupt transition from horizontal to vertical, as well as any dimples or clefts, makes them a bitch to shave. If it were all one straight slope up to the lower lip, it would be easier.

And don’t get me started on the upper lip/nose complex!

Bruce “The Chin” Campbell would like to have a word with you…

/

206 darthstar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:49:01pm
207 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:51:16pm

re: #205 TedStriker

Bruce “The Chin” Campbell would like to have a word with you…

/

Ask him how much fun it is to shave that thing.

Klaatu Verata Ni-*coughcough*

208 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:52:04pm

re: #204 Pie-onist Overlord

Another case of affluenza?

Multiple DUIs by the age of 21? Great googly-moogly!

209 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:56:01pm

re: #206 darthstar

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Ok, that’s weird even for Texas.

210 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:56:53pm
211 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:57:33pm

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Ok, that’s weird even for Texas.

True. The guy in the banana suit is missing the hat and giant belt buckle.

212 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:59:17pm

WTFITS

213 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:59:29pm

re: #206 darthstar

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What would they cite him for? It is legal to walk around with a long gun in Texas, I’m pretty sure it is not against the law to dress like a banana in Beaumont too.

214 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:59:31pm

I’m not so sure this guy is in the clear, but I like the concept. : )

“Dumb Starbucks” Owner Reveals Himself as Comedy Central Show Host

The coffee shop’s owner is the star of a comedy show with the tagline, “Real People. Real Business. Results Not Guaranteed”

nbclosangeles.com

215 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:01:18pm

re: #211 Lidane

True. The guy in the banana suit is missing the hat and giant belt buckle.

Maybe they peeled off him.


[maybe not]


Slipped off him

[no, try again]

…. aaahhhh

216 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:02:02pm

re: #213 b.d.

What would they cite him for? It is legal t walk around with a long gun in Texas, I’m pretty sure it is not against the law to dress like a banana in Beaumont too.

“The spokesperson said the teen was cited for violating a city ordinance that prohibits soliciting in and alongside roadways.”

217 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:02:05pm

re: #204 Pie-onist Overlord

Another case of affluenza?

Her 24 yr old sister in the car w/her, who was killed, also had multiple DUIs on her record.

218 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:03:34pm

re: #216 The Ghost of a Flea

“The spokesperson said the teen was cited for violating a city ordinance that prohibits soliciting in and alongside roadways.”

Is he going to a peel?

219 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:05:12pm

re: #218 b.d.

Is he going to a peel?

They are afraid of bail he might split.

220 jaunte  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:05:38pm

re: #206 darthstar

This guy again:

Parkdale Mall in Beaumont is clarifying its ban on all guns on it’s property in response to an incident where Derek Poe was charged with disorderly conduct for carrying an AR-15 slung across his back.
burntorangereport.com

221 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:06:27pm

re: #218 b.d.

Is he going to a peel?

Is there a circle in Dante’s hell for bad puns?

If there is, say hi to my geometry teacher when you get there.

; P

222 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:06:28pm

re: #219 Political Atheist

They are afraid of bail he might split.

They could put him in a Foster home.

223 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:07:13pm

Haha, I told my grandson I would make cinnamon rolls in the morning. “Can you make some now?” No, they have to rise, take time to make, so tomorrow. I asked if he wanted me to throw some sliced almonds on top? He hates nuts, and I’m still laughing at his reaction.

You would have thought I had suggested strychnine. : )

224 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:09:08pm

re: #218 b.d.

Is he going to a peel?

re: #219 Political Atheist

They are afraid of bail he might split.

PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW.

225 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:09:26pm

re: #222 b.d.

They could put him in a Foster home.

Or in a loaf of bread with the rest of the nuts.

226 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:09:56pm

re: #189 Varek Raith

Tea Party gripes: GOP leaders we’re trying to unseat ‘playing hardball’ by fighting back
Lol.

Whiny bullies say what?

227 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:10:15pm

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

Haha, I told my grandson I would make cinnamon rolls in the morning. “Can you make some now?” No, they have to rise, take time to make, so tomorrow. I asked if he wanted me to throw some sliced almonds on top? He hates nuts, and I’m still laughing at his reaction.

You would have thought I had suggested strychnine. : )

I’m with him. I do like all kinds of nuts, but not inside/on top of baked goods.

228 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:11:38pm

re: #216 The Ghost of a Flea

“The spokesperson said the teen was cited for violating a city ordinance that prohibits soliciting in and alongside roadways.”

Soliciting while armed. Isn’t that robbery?

229 Bubblehead II  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:12:00pm

re: #126 Justanotherhuman

Making money from the misery of others.

Terrific.

Well I can see it from both sides. Yours (I am assuming here, not trying to put words in your mouth) that this may be encouraging drug use and profiting from it as well.

And theirs.

They are using this drug and using devices that are of inferior quality, that chip and/or break, cutting the lips of the user(s), there by allowing the transmission of blood born disease that cost the nation more money.

According to See, while the pipes only cost a quarter apiece, individual cases of HIV or hepatitis cost taxpayers up to $250,000 in medical treatment.

I don’t see anything wrong with this. New York and other large cities have had and may still have needle exchange programs to try to curb the spread of blood born disease amongst IV drug users.

The only difference I see here is that the the user is being asked to help pay for the cost of being provided a “safe” method for using their drug.

Hopefully they are or will be also provided with information for treatment for their addiction.

230 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:12:06pm

re: #228 Eventual Carrion

Soliciting while armed. Isn’t that robbery?

I’d have thought so.

231 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:12:24pm

re: #227 Eventual Carrion

I’m with him. I do like all kinds of nuts, but not inside/on top of baked goods.

Sticky buns are nothing without the pecans. : )

232 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:12:29pm

re: #228 Eventual Carrion

Soliciting while armed. Isn’t that robbery?

I just quoted what was in the link. I’ve no idea what the local laws are.

233 jaunte  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:13:08pm

re: #206 darthstar

…officers temporarily detained the 18-year-old and found he had the rifle with a drum magazine attached with at least a 50-round capacity…

He’s ready to repel the invading FEMA armies.

234 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:15:35pm

re: #233 jaunte

He’s ready to repel the invading FEMA armies.

Ah, yes.

The famed Kamikaze Banana Squadron.

Defending our shores against giant gorillas since 1933.

235 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:16:06pm

re: #222 b.d.

They could put him in a Foster home.

No way he is gonna get creamed.

236 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:16:36pm

re: #229 Bubblehead II

Well I can see it from both sides. Yours (I am assuming here, not trying to put words in your mouth) that this may be encouraging drug use and profiting from it as well.

And theirs.

They are using this drug and using devices that are of inferior quality, that chip and/or break, cutting the lips of the user(s), there by allowing the transmission of blood born disease that cost the nation more money.

According to See, while the pipes only cost a quarter apiece, individual cases of HIV or hepatitis cost taxpayers up to $250,000 in medical treatment.

I don’t see anything wrong with this. New York and other large cities have had and may still have needle exchange programs to try to curb the spread of blood born disease amongst IV drug users.

The only difference I see here is that the the user is being asked to help pay for the cost of being provided a “safe” method for using their drug.

Hopefully they are or will be also provided with information for treatment for their addiction.

THEY’RE ENDORSING DRUG USE!!!! NOBODY’D SMOKE CRACK IF THEY HAD TO BUY THEIR OWN PIPES!!! RISK THEIR PIPES CRACKING!!!

So, basically the position is that it’s better to remain morally pure, while letting others get sick (It’s their own fault!) and cost the system millions of dollars (They want my money!).

Same thing with contraception as a way to reduce abortion.

237 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:20:47pm

re: #229 Bubblehead II

Yeah, I get that. Pipettes have been sold in convenience stores for ages. Right there at the cash register.

Along with some other stuff you never thought were used for drugs? I would have never.

cracked.com

238 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:21:10pm

re: #216 The Ghost of a Flea

“The spokesperson said the teen was cited for violating a city ordinance that prohibits soliciting in and alongside roadways.”

They could also probably charge him under this:

Sec. 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:

(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;

I think if you’re going to walk around openly armed you’ve got some kind of additional burden to present yourself as grounded, sane, responsible and non-alarming. Except for the gun you really don’t want people to otherwise be looking at you twice. Wearing a banana suit might not violate the letter of the law, but it doesn’t exactly treat it with respect or seriousness either.

239 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:21:32pm

re: #233 jaunte

He’s ready to repel the invading FEMA armies.

Until the Feds roll out a weapon that spits out more bullets in a second than are in the magazine of his gun.

240 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:22:49pm

241 Lidane  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:23:14pm

Rebranding Watch, Texas edition:


I’m originally from the Rio Grande Valley. Still have family down there, too. The things I could say to Abbott over this would get me banned.

242 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:24:09pm

re: #212 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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It’s my hot body!

Youtube Video

243 EPR-radar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:24:52pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

A pity that’s not a US city, otherwise the temptation to caption it in a way relating to the GOP convention (or perhaps to CPAC) would be irresistible.

244 GeneJockey  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:25:30pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

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Must be in Oesterreich.

245 Chrysicat  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:25:57pm

re: #214 Justanotherhuman

Shoulda just called it DumbStar’s. People would still get what the name was parodying and it would have been a hell of a lot easier to defend under Fair Use…

246 b.d.  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:30:14pm

re: #241 Lidane

Rebranding Watch, Texas edition:

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I’m originally from the Rio Grande Valley. Still have family down there, too. The things I could say to Abbott over this would get me banned.

If the Rio Grande Valley was being run like a 3rd world country wouldn’t it be the Attorney General’s job to go down there and clean it up?

He’s been AG for 12 years, it must have been fine for all this time?

247 Bubblehead II  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:30:38pm

re: #245 Chrysicat

Shoulda just called it DumbStar’s. People would still get what the name was parodying and it would have been a hell of a lot easier to defend under Fair Use…

Naw, then it would be confused with pawned stars

248 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:34:38pm

re: #212 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Another seditionist patriot.

249 jaunte  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:34:41pm

re: #246 b.d.

He’s been too busy suing Obama to think about it.

Abbott “has filed 24 lawsuits against the federal government since Obama took office — litigation that has cost the state $2.58 million and more than 14,113 hours spent by staff and state lawyers working those cases”
m.lubbockonline.com

250 EPR-radar  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:38:12pm

re: #249 jaunte

If I lived in TX, I would be thoroughly pissed off by this clown wasting public funds to polish his wingnut anti-Obama halo.

251 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:39:49pm
252 Chrysicat  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:46:14pm

re: #239 Romantic Heretic

Until the Feds roll out a weapon that spits out more bullets in a second than are in the magazine of his gun.

WAL THAT’S NO PROLLEM…WE AUGHTA BE ABLE TA BUY *THEM* GUNZ TOO! ‘SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED’! WAH ARE MAH POLITICIANS NOT OVERTURNING THAT DAYUMED FEDERAL FIREARMS ACT ALREADY?

253 Chrysicat  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:48:52pm

re: #252 Chrysicat

Aaaaand I responded to a dead thread again. Dammit.

254 abolitionist  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:02:00pm

re: #252 Chrysicat

re: #253 Chrysicat

Chill, you were less than 10 min after Charles.

255 Bubblehead II  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:08:25pm

re: #253 Chrysicat

Aaaaand I responded to a dead thread again. Dammit.

It happens.

256 Ming  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:23:58pm

re: #87 GeneJockey

This is, indeed, my fear about someone like Sarah Palin. She’s extremely good at tapping into the resentment of privileged white folks fearing the loss of that privilege, and though she’s fairly unpopular with the general population these days, I could foresee a path of unfortunate events that could put her or someone like her in the White House.

It still scares me that she got 46% of the vote in 2008. America needs to come to terms with how that happened. We really dodged a bullet.

257 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:35:31pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

The marketing people at @Audi need to get a raise for this Olympic advertisement pronto

As an VW/Audi fan, I approve of the 4 Rings Olympic Ad! Too funny. As far as car company advertising goes, in my opinion they lead the pack for unique, fun and effective advertising.

258 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:48:35pm

re: #201 Justanotherhuman

Words fail.

Suspect in wrong-way crash has previous DUI conviction, records show

latimes.com

Sad. There was an idiot here in Ohio many years ago that wiped out two people riding in an Amish buggy near Chesterville Ohio. He had 7 DUI convictions before he drove into the buggy. Killed a father and daughter.

And there was another guy with I believe 3 DUIs who was driving down the berm on Rt 270, the Columbus Outerbelt, and drove right into the back of a stopped Ohio Patrolman that had another car stopped. He killed the patrolman and badly injured the driver of the other car.

The patrolman was sitting in his car running the stopped drivers license when he was hit. Reports had the guy in the SUV literally having an open bar on his front seat and middle console. Open bottles, mixers, ice and glasses. He was so drunk he had zero idea what he had done. I’ll never forget the photo in the paper of the patrol car, a Ford Crown Vic. It was all balled up into the back of the other car, but its full exhaust system was almost untouched and laying on the road…torn from its hangers.

Some people seem not to get the message. I am not sure of the laws now, but they have been stiffened here in Ohio but still not stiff enough as we too continue to have some horrendous accidents and drunken wrong way accidents on freeways has happened several times over the last 5 years.

259 122 Year Old Obama  Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:08:03pm
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Dark_Falcon

Of course.

260 BusyMonster  Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:30:07am

re: #212 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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I love the Tea Party, who apparently are all big friends of asshole Vladmir Putin now, raving about freedumb and tyranny.


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