Tom Perkins, “Holocaust Victim,” Wants The Rich People To Have All The Votes

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Asked for an idea that could “change the world,” billionaire venture capitalist Tom Perkins told an audience at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco on Thursday that Americans shouldn’t be able to vote unless they pay taxes and that the wealthy should have more votes.

“The Tom Perkins system is: You don’t get to vote unless you pay a dollar of taxes,” Perkins said. “But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How’s that?”

The audience laughed at the idea, though CNN Money notes that the billionaire did not indicate that he was joking. Afterwards, he suggested that he was being purposely controversial, “I intended to be outrageous, and it was,” he said, adding that the comments “make you more angry than my letter to the Wall Street Journal.”

Last month, Perkins used a Holocaust analogy to describe his concerns for the safety of the top 1 percent of income earners, writing, “I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘one percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the ‘rich.’”

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179 comments
1 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 7:02:46am

Oh, just funnin, like ha ha.

Right.

2 missliberties  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 7:27:27am

And his billion dollar free speech ad buy is just exactly the same as my ten dollar free speech ad buy. Except it’s not. See how equal and fair that is.

Citizens United the worst SC decision in forever.

3 Skip Intro  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 7:43:20am

Not only don’t I think he’s kidding, I expect to see this idea become more mainstream in the GOP in the coming months/years.

The large corporations already own the federal and state governments; no point in keeping it hidden any more.

4 nines09  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 8:18:23am
5 nines09  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 8:32:33am

Afterwards, he suggested that he was being purposely controversial, “I intended to be outrageous, and it was,” he said, adding that the comments “make you more angry than my letter to the Wall Street Journal.”
End quote; No. He was showing his true and heartfelt beliefs; Just the fact that you have money makes you better. Period. And better means more power and influence to the point that law and standards do not apply to the rich. In his “holocaust” it is YOU that is shattered along with the Nation and the Constitution.

6 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 9:12:19am

re: #5 nines09

Afterwards, he suggested that he was being purposely controversial, “I intended to be outrageous, and it was,” he said, adding that the comments “make you more angry than my letter to the Wall Street Journal.”
End quote; No. He was showing his true and heartfelt beliefs; Just the fact that you have money makes you better. Period. And better means more power and influence to the point that law and standards do not apply to the rich. In his “holocaust” it is YOU that is shattered along with the Nation and the Constitution.

HURR HURR!!! IT JUST SATIRE!!!!11!!!

7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 9:38:28am

Modern free marketeers have no concept of human dignity that is not expressed in terms of their financial portfolio.

8 Ace-o-aces  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:37:34am
Asked for an idea that could “change the world,” billionaire venture capitalist Tom Perkins told an audience at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco on Thursday that Americans shouldn’t be able to vote unless they pay taxes and that the wealthy should have more votes.

Hey, he said “change the world”, he didn’t say “for the better”.

9 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:49:17am

Tom Perkins told an audience at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco… The audience laughed at the idea

10 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:51:19am

With a plan like that the rich might actually start paying some taxes.

11 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:52:23am

Ah, the golden rule, “Them that has the gold make the rules.” I’m pretty sure it was that philosophy that we rebelled against.

12 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:52:51am

These are the same people who walk around with pocket constitutions and bibles.

13 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:53:53am

What Tom’s really pining for is the glorious days of feudalism, when he, as an aristocratic feudal lord, could ride the length and breadth of his domain on his noble steed, while the serfs tugged their forelocks as he passed by, and deferentially bowed, saying “M’Lord”.

14 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:54:07am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

These are the same people who walk around with pocket constitutions and bibles.

Not the 1%. You’re thinking about the other ones. The useful idiots.

15 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:55:43am

Corporate fascist.

16 GunstarGreen  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:57:41am

Not exactly a new idea, but it’s been getting more and more traction amongst the far-right in recent years. Boortz just before he retired was a big fan, and though I don’t listen to Pillbaugh enough to know whether or not he espouses the idea, it sounds like something he would. The idea that people that aren’t wealthy venture capitalists don’t deserve a vote.

Expect it to get more and more prevalent, as the GOP and its allies comes further and further to the realization that they have no base beyond the ultra-wealthy and the xenophobes. If you can’t get enough votes to win, slash the number of people that can vote until you can.

17 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:58:08am

Time to dust off the old guillotine but I need to learn French first . ///

18 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 10:59:24am
“The Tom Perkins system is: You don’t get to vote unless you pay a dollar of taxes,”

I prefer the Marlin Perkins system: you don’t get to vote unless you wrassle this anaconda into the bag.

Makes just as much sense.

19 ausador  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:01:02am

If you want to see an actual “war on the rich” Mr. Perkins then I strongly suggest that you keep following this kind of “entitled elite logic” to its eventual bitter and bloody end.

20 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:01:46am

I bought something and paid sales tax. Therefore I can vote.

Suck it Tom.

21 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:03:21am

It isn’t surprising that the rich and powerful are seeking out ideas and methods that would further concentrate wealth and power in those who already have it.

This is just another ploy to intensify power with those who have money. It would be a huge step back in time, but that’s just the way he wants it.

It also sheds light on why the GOP has been fighting to keep voting rights tied up as much as possible. They don’t want to expand the voter base because it would further erode their power. It happens when they attempt to deny the right to vote to those who lack a photo ID, which tends to affect those who are poor, lack motor vehicles, or otherwise would pose a hardship to obtain.

All part and parcel of the same trend.

22 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:03:29am

re: #20 Internet Tough Guy

I bought something and paid sales tax. Therefore I can vote.

Suck it Tom.

Wrong taxes.

23 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:03:48am

1 vote for each percentage of your income that you spend in combined day to day and income taxes.

24 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:04:02am

I, Tom Perkins, Billionaire Bastard™, am nothing less than an attention whore who will say anything for publicity.

25 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:04:12am

This has been around for a long time, though under the guise of “must own property”. It’s one of several reasons various programs to help low income families own homes get such vitriol, and the blame when the housing market took a dip.

(Oddly, the people doing this wanted to look away when it was shown the real problems tended to be high-dollar homes and high-wealth individuals all playing games with the money.)

26 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:04:33am

I have a better idea. Why not have those votes distributed in a fashion where the people who pay the highest percentage of their earnings in taxes get the highest representation of votes.

This means ALL taxes paid — which would include all those regressive taxes (things like sales and excise taxes) that are disproportionately paid by the non-wealthy. While we’re at it, let’s make sure that all “hidden” taxes paid (for example, home/apartment rental payments include tax, but typically aren’t documented on lease agreements) are documented.

27 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:04:34am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

These are the same people who walk around with assistants carrying pocket constitutions and bibles for them.

FTFY. ‘Billionaire’, doncha know.

28 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:05:01am

re: #16 GunstarGreen

Not exactly a new idea, but it’s been getting more and more traction amongst the far-right in recent years. Boortz just before he retired was a big fan, and though I don’t listen to Pillbaugh enough to know whether or not he espouses the idea, it sounds like something he would. The idea that people that aren’t wealthy venture capitalists don’t deserve a vote.

Expect it to get more and more prevalent, as the GOP and its allies comes further and further to the realization that they have no base beyond the ultra-wealthy and the xenophobes. If you can’t get enough votes to win, slash the number of people that can vote until you can.

The GOP is slowly ceasing to be a national party due to decades of playing to the 1% and using various scare-tactics (“black people!,” “communists!,” “terrorists!”) to keep the base in line. In another 10-20 years, Texas will turn purple or even blue and that’s the ballgame, there will never be another Republican president. But even pushing “voter ID” laws and restricting access to polls is only a temporary solution, the demographic reality is that the GOP’s white base is going away and they’re making no effort to remedy that.

29 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:10:52am

Is being a billionaire that unfulfilling that you have to become a troll to keep things hopping?

30 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:11:51am

re: #25 kirkspencer

This has been around for a long time, though under the guise of “must own property”. It’s one of several reasons various programs to help low income families own homes get such vitriol, and the blame when the housing market took a dip.

(Oddly, the people doing this wanted to look away when it was shown the real problems tended to be high-dollar homes and high-wealth individuals all playing games with the money.)

The “property-owners” requirement to vote was also a mainstay in voter suppression of former slaves in the post-Civil War and Jim Crow-era South. Those individuals typically didn’t own their own property, but were either living on their “employer’s” farmland property, or were “company town” residents. It’s not a big stretch to imagine that is part of what is behind this latest idea.

31 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:13:00am

re: #30 RadicalModerate

And it would also adversely affect renters, who comprise a significant number of voters in urban areas, which also happen to be the areas of the country where conservatives and GOPers generally fare the worst.

32 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:15:17am

For future use :)

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:17:28am
34 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:17:43am

re: #31 lawhawk

And it would also adversely affect renters, who comprise a significant number of voters in urban areas, which also happen to be the areas of the country where conservatives and GOPers generally fare the worst.

Another thought.

In the United States, the vast majority of people who live in homes nowadays are paying a mortgage - and the deed to those houses are in the lender’s name. Does this mean that those financial institutions have the right to vote instead of actual people?

35 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:17:47am

re: #28 Targetpractice

The GOP is slowly ceasing to be a national party due to decades of playing to the 1% and using various scare-tactics (“black people!,” “communists!,” “terrorists!”) to keep the base in line. In another 10-20 years, Texas will turn purple or even blue and that’s the ballgame, there will never be another Republican president. But even pushing “voter ID” laws and restricting access to polls is only a temporary solution, the demographic reality is that the GOP’s white base is going away and they’re making no effort to remedy that.

IMO, the GOP may be seriously planning to get into office one last time in the presidency in 2016 to steal every public asset possible.

An early sign that this supposition is real would be PA, WS et al. changing their election laws in 2015 to give the GOP electoral votes (e.g., by parceling out electoral votes according to winners of congressional districts, or worse).

36 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:18:07am

Study finds genes on X chromosome linked to male homosexuality

A study of gay men in the US has found fresh evidence that male sexual orientation is influenced by genes. Scientists tested the DNA of 400 gay men and found that genes on at least two chromosomes affected whether a man was gay or straight.

A region of the X chromosome called Xq28 had some impact on men’s sexual behaviour - though scientists have no idea which of the many genes in the region are involved, nor how many lie elsewhere in the genome.

[…]

The gene or genes in the Xq28 region that influence sexual orientation have a limited and variable impact. Not all of the gay men in Bailey’s study inherited the same Xq28 region. The genes were neither sufficient, nor necessary, to make any of the men gay.

[…]

“When people say there’s a gay gene, it’s an oversimplification,” Sanders said. “There’s more than one gene, and genetics is not the whole story. Whatever gene contributes to sexual orientation, you can think of it as much as contributing to heterosexuality as much as you can think of it contributing to homosexuality. It contributes to a variation in the trait.”

37 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:20:49am

So, how long after they pass such voting laws and Democrats still get elected before they move to restricting which parties may run for election? I mean, if we’re going to go the fascist route, might as well go all the way.

38 Flying Squirrel Girl  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:21:28am

re: #25 kirkspencer

I pointed this out to a family member who was going on about how poor people got mortgages they couldn’t afford (as if it were their job to determine whether they were eligible and not the banks’). I noted that of all the people we knew, the few who had had homes foreclosed were the ones who were trying to get in on the “flip” madness, i.e. our friends who could afford to pick up second and third mortgages.

39 Mattand  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:23:58am

re: #38 Flying Squirrel Girl

I pointed this out to a family member who was going on about how poor people got mortgages they couldn’t afford (as if it were their job to determine whether they were eligible and not the banks’). I noted that of all the people we knew, the few who had had homes foreclosed were the ones who were trying to get in on the “flip” madness, i.e. our friends who could afford to pick up second and third mortgages.

I’m betting the conversation got real quiet after that.

40 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:24:10am

Well, in the interests of transparency, presumably this would mean the Donald would finally have to reveal just how much of his family fortune he’s managed to piss away.

So let’s not pretend there wouldn’t be a little bit of an upside.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:25:01am

HURR HURR!!!!!

42 ausador  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:26:02am

re: #28 Targetpractice

But even pushing “voter ID” laws and restricting access to polls is only a temporary solution, the demographic reality is that the GOP’s white base is going away and they’re making no effort to remedy that.

It isn’t so much that they have failed to reach out to minorities, it is that they could not while maintaining the support of their current base. Now they are getting a bit desperate because a very large percentage of their current base will be dead within the next ten years due to natural causes related to advanced age.

Republican “rebranding” isn’t dead yet, this snake will eventually try to shed its skin and convince the populace that it is a harmless glass snake and not a rattler. Unfortunately for them (as they have just seen) they just cannot afford to do that until a rather significant portion of their current supporters die off.

43 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:26:34am

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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Yes but what kind of facts could Vicious Babushka give him that he would believe, probably none.

44 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:26:54am

I missed the train discussion earlier. Sadface.

I like the trains in the US.

45 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:27:26am

Thanks for the promotion, Charles!

46 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:28:41am

And again.

Man shot inside Military Circle mall in Norfolk

A man was shot inside The Gallery at Military Circle mall this afternoon, said Karen Parker-Chesson, police spokeswoman.

An argument started between two men in the mall about 1 p.m. Friday and one of them shot the other, she said.

Police have one man in custody. The condition of the gunshot victim is not known.

“An armed society is a polite society,” my ass.

47 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:29:36am

re: #43 Tigger2

Yes but what kind of facts could you give him he would believe.

None. Any facts which do not conform to their version of reality are summarily dismissed.

48 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:30:23am

re: #42 ausador

It isn’t so much that they have failed to reach out to minorities, it is that they could not while maintaining the support of their current base.

EXACTLY.

When you spend 40+ years openly pandering to the idiots, the bigots, and the religious fanatics and playing on white resentment in order to win elections the way the Republicans have, your options are limited.

They can’t broaden their voter base without alienating the people they’ve got left. Demographics will be death for them in the next few years. They have to either find a way to permanently disenfranchise the poor, women, and minorities, or they have to find a way for rich people to have all the votes.

49 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:30:41am

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

None. Any facts which do not conform to their version of reality are summarily dismissed.

Yeah I added Probably none after I posted it and looked at it.

50 Flying Squirrel Girl  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:31:06am

re: #39 Mattand

Not really, because logic is not required when you’ve got a good talking point. One couple who are friends of the family actually divorced so one spouse could keep a good credit rating and the other could take the hit on their credit. You know…like poor people do…

51 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:31:09am

Latest information on PA Turnpike from Philadelphia Inquirer: philly.com

52 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:35:32am

HURR HURR!!!!!!

53 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:36:22am

The news is 2 days old, but warrants posting considering his impact on public health:

S. Harvey Mudd, NIH researcher, dies at 86

His discoveries helped lead to the routine screening of newborn infants for certain metabolic irregularities that might have serious long-term consequences. He was a primary contributor in figuring out how various forms of metabolic disorders occur and in developing processes to prevent, treat, cure or mitigate such disorders.

His research led to the practice of putting folic acid into the flour supply to help prevent birth defects. Manufacturers also made changes in baby-food formulas as a result of his work.

washingtonpost.com

54 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:37:45am

HURR HURR!!!! LIBRUL PLANTS!!!! THEIR ALL LIBRUL PLANTS!!!! MOAR LIBRUL PLANTS AT TEH TEA PARTY THEN TEH TEA PARTY!!!!!!

55 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:38:44am

I hope Rachel Maddow stays on McCrory’s ass for this and his other hijinks—the guy who also hired teabagging Art Pope, the real Republican boss in NC. Duke Energy has gotten far more than its $1M contribution to their employee’s campaign.

Rachel Maddow: Federal probe of NC toxic polluter could be bad news for Gov. McCrory

rawstory.com

I tried to warn all the hip, faux “progressives”, the pseudo liberals, about the man in the Brooks Brothers suit, but no one would listen. And they elected this clown for 7 terms as mayor of Charlotte which is really just a PR/Chamber of Commerce position. Cheeeez.

56 Mike Lamb  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:39:18am

How about this jackass…

Everyone gets 1 vote for every percentage point they pay in sales, real estate and income taxes relative to their total earnings (of any kind) each year.

57 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:39:59am
58 simoom  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:40:17am


Maass’ Poitras profile (from Aug 13):
nytimes.com

Maass’ “Snowden Interview” (questions and answers passed through Poitras):
nytimes.com

A Q&A w/ Maass on his Poitras profile:
6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com

It was understood that I wouldn’t write anything that would jeopardize their security. I also knew they wouldn’t show me their documents or tell me every detail about how they got them from Snowden or what they planned to do with them. Snowden has been charged with espionage. They could be still be charged with something. They don’t want to make public the types of information, beyond the documents themselves, that could be used to build a case against him or them. Basic things like where Glenn’s house is in Rio I don’t mention in the story, just in case. I think it’s safe to assume the U.S. government knows where Glenn lives, but other governments and private individuals probably don’t. And we did have some explicit conversations about what they preferred I not include.

When I first arrived on a Saturday morning, Laura had sent me an e-mail with the name of the hotel where she was meeting with Glenn and the other two Guardian reporters who were visiting to help with stories. I went straight there from the airport and watched the four of them working on stories and on computer-security issues. It was like an embed. I’ve done military embeds in Iraq. It was either explicitly stated in Iraq, or just really clear, that you didn’t write about operational matters — tactics, perimeter security, patrol plans — that could jeopardize the present or future security of the troops you were with. The military doesn’t show you everything, but it is there in the room, and they are not necessarily able or trying to hide everything. They depend somewhat on your discretion. Both were classified environments.

59 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:43:25am

re: #58 simoom

Christalmighty, this secretive bullshit:

“It was either explicitly stated in Iraq, or just really clear, that you didn’t write about operational matters — tactics, perimeter security, patrol plans — that could jeopardize the present or future security of the troops you were with. “

But it was fine for Snowden to steal all those NSA documents and put who knows how many lives at risk?

These people are insanely narcissistic.

60 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:45:20am

Dear Tom Perkins,

Get the fuck out of the US.

61 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:46:25am

re: #58 simoom

62 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:49:34am

‘Russia determined to construct second unit of Bushehr nuclear power plant’

Saudi Arabia May Go Nuclear Because of Obama’s Iran Deal

This prospect of the Saudis beginning an enrichment program was broached earlier this month at the Munich Security Conference. Sen. Lindsey Graham asked Saudi Prince Turki al Faisal, the kingdom’s powerful former intelligence chief, if any final agreement that allowed Iran to maintain an enrichment capability would cause Saudi Arabia and other Arab states to invoke their own right to enrich uranium.

“I think we should insist on having equal rights for everybody, this is part of the (Non-Proliferation Treaty) arrangement,” the prince said.

Saudi Arabia is not alone in this regard. Last month, Turkey and Japan began re-negotiating a pact whereby Japan would provide Turkey with nuclear technology, but the deal could be modified later to give the Turks its own enrichment capability if Japan agreed.

63 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:49:38am
64 ausador  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:50:57am

re: #57 Feline Fearless Leader

It is amazing how all that could happen in only 6018 years…

///

65 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:52:57am

re: #64 ausador

It is amazing how all that could happen in only 6018 years…

///

God made it that way!

He can’t however make gay people for some reason.

66 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:55:35am

re: #63 klys

How about some mysterious geology?

Image: IMG_1135.JPG

67 GunstarGreen  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:57:07am

re: #65 Kragar

God made it that way!

He can’t however make gay people for some reason.

Something something free will something.

“I’m going to create you with the ability to make a choice. But one of the answers is wrong, and if you get it wrong I torture you for all eternity. WORSHIP ME!”

68 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:57:30am

re: #66 lawhawk

How about some mysterious geology?

Image: IMG_1135.JPG

They only slide when you’re not looking at them.
:)

69 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:57:39am

Hell of a Honeycomb Hideout that Pierre is creating. I can almost picture the sign on the treehouse:

No drooling sycophants allowed

70 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:58:09am

re: #63 klys

Nice!

We decided to go get into California high country Saturday. Taking all the gear, LOL. Escaping the concrete. and getting up among the pines and bare granite.

71 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 11:59:36am

re: #68 Feline Fearless Leader

They only slide when you’re not looking at them.
:)

Weeping rocks! Quantum locked rocks. Why didn’t we think of that solution sooner!

72 calochortus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:00:52pm

re: #34 RadicalModerate

Another thought.

In the United States, the vast majority of people who live in homes nowadays are paying a mortgage - and the deed to those houses are in the lender’s name. Does this mean that those financial institutions have the right to vote instead of actual people?

I pointed this out to a nephew who was spouting the ‘only property owners should vote’ line. He had to admit he wouldn’t be able to vote if that were the case. I would. And I’m a liberal. Bwahahahaha.

73 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:01:10pm

re: #66 lawhawk

How about some mysterious geology?

Image: IMG_1135.JPG

Haha, that was the first road trip with the now-husband. (Before the good camera, unfortunately.)

We drove in from the north via Eureka sand dune and actually had a flat tire out there. You know you’re pretty well prepared when the ranger pulls up to check on you (out about 30 minutes from a paved road) and decides it’s ok to continue. (We had green goop, an air compressor, and a full size spare, which I didn’t want to use yet because using that meant we wouldn’t camp out by the Racetrack. Which we did end up getting to do.)

74 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:01:49pm

re: #58 simoom

Also, not to be confused with this Peter Maas who was a real journalist.

en.wikipedia.org

75 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:02:01pm

re: #58 simoom

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Maass’ Poitras profile (from Aug 13):
nytimes.com

Maass’ “Snowden Interview” (questions and answers passed through Poitras):
nytimes.com

A Q&A w/ Maass on his Poitras profile:
6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com

Another white male hiring by firstlook media, how shocking!

How’s that severe diversity working out for ya?

76 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:02:27pm

Joe Biden: ‘There Isn’t A Republican Party’

Vice President Joe Biden seized on disorganization in the GOP to rally House Democrats on Friday at a policy conference in Maryland.

“There isn’t a Republican Party. I wish there were, I wish there was a Republican Party,” Biden said. “I wish there was one person we could sit across the table from, make a deal, make a compromise and know when you got up from that table it was done.”

“All you had to do was look at the response to the State of the Union, what were there, three or four?” he added. “I’m not being facetious.”

77 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:02:45pm

re: #70 Political Atheist

Nice!

We decided to go get into California high country Saturday. Taking all the gear, LOL. Escaping the concrete. and getting up among the pines and bare granite.

Don’t have the photos on hand of the bare granite. How about something sedimentary instead?

Not gneiss, and cannot be taken for granite.

78 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:02:46pm

re: #71 lawhawk

They are pieces of Weeping Angels.

79 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:02:46pm

re: #71 lawhawk

Weeping rocks! Quantum locked rocks. Why didn’t we think of that solution sooner!

Just whatever you do, don’t blink. Blink and you’re dead.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:05:34pm

Humphreys is blocked.

81 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:07:14pm

re: #70 Political Atheist

Gneiss!

82 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:07:18pm

re: #77 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t have the photos on hand of the bare granite. How about something sedimentary instead?

Not gneiss, and cannot be taken for granite.

A fine sediment for Valentines day indeed!

83 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:07:26pm

I look forward to First Look hiring someone critical of Greenwald.

84 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:08:28pm

re: #82 Political Atheist

A fine sediment for Valentines day indeed!

My heart is blue without you….

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:08:36pm
86 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:09:00pm

“I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘one percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the ‘rich.’”

criticizing poor people for taking government money is good, but criticizing rich people is just like being a nazi

i’ll have to write to perkins to get the guidelines on who can and who can’t be criticized

87 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:09:19pm
88 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:09:26pm

re: #71 lawhawk

Weeping rocks! Quantum locked rocks. Why didn’t we think of that solution sooner!

Don’t blink. Blink and you’re dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don’t turn your back. Don’t look away. And don’t blink.

90 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:09:45pm

My only question is, well, then how does General Electric get to keep voting?

91 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:09:57pm

re: #83 Gus

I look forward to First Look hiring someone critical of Greenwald.

Are you constructing an alternate universe?

92 calochortus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:10:02pm

re: #86 dog philosopher

“I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘one percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the ‘rich.’”

criticizing poor people for taking government money is good, but criticizing rich people is just like being a nazi

i’ll have to write to perkins to get the guidelines on who can and who can’t be criticized

Obviously, you start the list with him. He is above all criticism.

93 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:10:28pm

This POS will be out in a year, “cured” as it were.

Father accused of dismembering son found insane

wbrz.com

94 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:10:46pm

re: #83 Gus

I look forward to First Look hiring someone critical of Greenwald.

I already can’t wait for the first person that leaves First Look to pull back the curtains.

95 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:11:05pm

re: #90 Testy Toad T

My only question is, well, then how does General Electric get to keep voting?

qft!

96 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:11:12pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Are you constructing an alternate universe?

I look forward to their sports coverage. Kick ball.

98 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:14:04pm

Step 1) Vote per tax dollar enacted
Step 2) Law passes doing away with taxes on rich people
Step 3) Election time
Step 4) Poor people take revenge on people who suddenly don’t have the voting power they used to.

QED

99 b.d.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:16:31pm

re: #96 Gus

I look forward to their sports coverage. Kick ball.

First Look does have a sports guy already.

This guy:

twitter.com

He’s a pretty obnoxious know-it-all dudebro too.

100 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:16:37pm

“But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How’s that?”

explain how great that is to the blue collar tea partiers who would then have considerably less voting power than prosperous hippie professionals like me

101 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:17:15pm

re: #100 dog philosopher

“But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How’s that?”

explain how great that is to the blue collar tea partiers who would then have considerably less voting power than prosperous hippie professionals like me

They’ve never voted in their own self-interest. Why start now?

102 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:17:19pm

re: #86 dog philosopher

“I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘one percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the ‘rich.’”

103 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:18:24pm

re: #100 dog philosopher

“But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How’s that?”

explain how great that is to the blue collar tea partiers who would then have considerably less voting power than prosperous hippie professionals like me

b.d. actually just found the flaw in Perkin’s plan. Basing voting rights on tax policy only works if the rich keep taxes where they are or raise them. Cutting their own taxes or raising them on the poor will only weaken their political power.

104 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:18:42pm

re: #86 dog philosopher

“I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its ‘one percent,’ namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the ‘rich.’”

criticizing poor people for taking government money is good, but criticizing rich people is just like being a nazi

i’ll have to write to perkins to get the guidelines on who can and who can’t be criticized

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire

105 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:20:36pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

b.d. actually just found the flaw in Perkin’s plan. Basing voting rights on tax policy only works if the rich keep taxes where they are or raise them. Cutting their own taxes or raising them on the poor will only weaken their political power.

this is a delectable paradox!

106 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:26:38pm

re: #89 Romantic Heretic

There’s that damn song in my head again.

I’ve been stuck with this one for the last few days.

Youtube Video

107 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:29:39pm

Good news from PA: The PA Turnpike east bound lanes are open. State troopers say that the Turnpike may be open by 5 pm.

108 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:30:00pm
109 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:30:48pm

re: #104 Justanotherhuman

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire

This x100. The US is a plutocracy. The first steps toward fixing this problem are 1) recognizing that the US is a plutocracy, and 2) viewing a US plutocracy as being undesirable.

Politics in the US is so debased that both parts of this will be nontrivial to get done.

110 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:33:15pm

re: #106 Kragar

I’ve been stuck with this one for the last few days.

[Embedded content]

Been meaning to ask, what character are you playing? I’ve tried them all and the Assassin suits me the best. Sniping and sneaking up to cut throats is how I prefer to fight.

A decent bazooka and shotgun are helpful too.

111 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:34:50pm

re: #110 Romantic Heretic

Been meaning to ask, what character are you playing? I’ve tried them all and the Assassin suits me the best. Sniping and sneaking up to cut throats is how I prefer to fight.

A decent bazooka and shotgun are helpful too.

Mostly the Mechromancer, but I’ve been trying out the Siren as well.

112 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:34:51pm

re: #108 Kragar

Bobby Jindal: Anti-discrimination laws are a ‘Silent War on Religious Liberty Power

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Translation.

113 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:36:18pm

Welcome to Johnson City, TN, where Pastor Donny Reagan of the Happy Valley Church of Jesus Christ welcomes you with open arms.

With some exceptions, however.

To the “amens” of his congregation, Brother Reagan read, “Hybreeding, hybreeding, oh how terrible. They hybreed the people. You know it’s a big molding pot. I’ve got hundreds of precious colored friends that’s borned again Christians. But on this line of segregation, hybreeding the people. What, tell me what fine cultured, fine Christian colored woman would want her baby to be a mulatto by a white man? No sir, it’s not right.”

rawstory.com

114 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:36:56pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

b.d. actually just found the flaw in Perkin’s plan. Basing voting rights on tax policy only works if the rich keep taxes where they are or raise them. Cutting their own taxes or raising them on the poor will only weaken their political power.

Too funny. Another amusing consequence is that Romney would have to disclose his tax returns in order to show how many votes he’s entitled to.

More to the point, Perkins talking about money voting in this farcical way is a bit of a side show. After all, money already does vote very effectively in the US.

115 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:38:25pm
116 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:40:05pm

re: #111 Kragar

Mostly the Mechromancer, but I’ve been trying out the Siren as well.

I’ve not gotten the Mechromancer DLC yet. I might get the Psycho on the strength of the trailer for it.

Some of the offshoot DLCs like Sir Hammerlock’s Big Game Hunt sound like they might be a hoot.

I’ll probably wait until I’ve played all the way through with all the standard characters though.

117 GunstarGreen  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:40:07pm

re: #108 Kragar

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This, of course, would be the very same Bobby Jindal that enacted private school vouchers and then said WAIT WUT when muslim schools applied.

Religious LIberty™: You are Free™ to be as Christian as you want to be.

118 Slap  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:40:18pm

re: #106 Kragar

Just saw these gentlemen last night, and now they’re stuck in my head.

Youtube Video

For me, that’s a good thing! If this sort of thing appeals to you, and their tour comes to your town, take the time. Low-key, on-point and thoroughly enjoyable.

119 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:41:17pm

re: #114 EPR-radar

Too funny. Another amusing consequence is that Romney would have to disclose his tax returns in order to show how many votes he’s entitled to.

More to the point, Perkins talking about money voting in this farcical way is a bit of a side show. After all, money already does vote very effectively in the US.

Perkins seems to be simply suggesting that the rich should be able to buy votes without going through the trouble of waging ad campaigns or pretending they actually give a damn about the poor.

120 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:41:53pm

re: #116 Romantic Heretic

I’ve not gotten the Mechromancer DLC yet. I might get the Psycho on the strength of the trailer for it.

Some of the offshoot DLCs like Sir Hammerlock’s Big Game Hunt sound like they might be a hoot.

I’ll probably wait until I’ve played all the way through with all the standard characters though.

I got the GOTY package deal on steam last weekend. All the DLC to date, plus Gaige and Krieg for $20. Great deal, been a lot of fun.

121 abolitionist  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:42:29pm

re: #63 klys

I have some of those…

The several “scratches” are rather compelling evidence for glacial ice flows. It’s obvious that “downstream” is to the lower left in that pic.

122 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:42:35pm

re: #89 Romantic Heretic

There’s that damn song in my head again.

Let me help with that. well “help” might be defined a little loosely. Okay I confess-Worst cover ever??

Billy Ray Cyrus Drops “Achy Breaky 2” Featuring Rapper Buck 22 and Mostly Naked Alien Ladies

Kinda NSFW

Youtube Video

123 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:43:04pm

I have been running up an Assassin as well, going into the Sniper tree mostly

124 calochortus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:43:09pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Nah, I think Perkins is just looking for attention. Maybe he should fund a radio show featuring Tom Perkins…

125 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:43:25pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Perkins seems to be simply suggesting that the rich should be able to buy votes without going through the trouble of waging ad campaigns or pretending they actually give a damn about the poor.

Another irony of Perkins’ stupid proposal is that in some ways it would lessen the concentration of power already in the hands of the ultra wealthy. After all, they are presently rulers in secret, and probably legally pay almost no taxes.

126 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:44:19pm

re: #123 Kragar

I have been running up an Assassin as well, going into the Sniper tree mostly

It’s funny, but when I play an RPG like Fallout, I mostly play stealth/sniper builds, but I’ve never had much luck as a sniper in FPS games.

127 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:44:29pm

re: #108 Kragar

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Jindal is a perfect example of someone who absorbed a lot of information and got through college with a couple of degrees by adhering to the rules, but never learned to think critically.

Either that, or he’s just downright dishonest.

Maybe both.

128 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:44:36pm

Frank Gaffney is looking for attention again:

129 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:45:26pm

re: #121 abolitionist

The several “scratches” are rather compelling evidence for glacial ice flows. It’s obvious that “downstream” is to the lower left in that pic.

I believe they’re actually pegmatite dikes. That’s at the Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park.

130 calochortus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:46:40pm

re: #129 klys

That’s what it looks like to me.

131 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:46:44pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

It’s funny, but when I play an RPG like Fallout, I mostly play stealth/sniper builds, but I’ve never had much luck as a sniper in FPS games.

I’ve gotten better at them, mostly thanks to running an archer in Skyrim I think.

132 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:47:38pm

re: #131 Kragar

I’ve gotten better at them, mostly thanks to running an archer in Skyrim I think.

I think it might also have to do with the Havok engine not being all that great when it comes to bullet drop. Even when I’ve learned how to lead a target, I still have a hard time judging bullet drop on the fly.

133 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:49:54pm

Oh noz! Iranian navy sending 1969 cruiser and tanker our way! We’re all going to die!

134 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:50:09pm

Ugandan President Museveni will sign the “Jail the Gays” bill.

advocate.com

Personally, the title ‘dictator’ is more appropriate in Museveni’s case, and more than a few Ugandans of my acquaintance would agree.

135 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:50:31pm

re: #133 Gus

Oh noz! Iranian navy sending 1969 cruiser and tanker our way! We’re all going to die laugh!

FTFY.

136 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:50:42pm

Probably an old rusty frigate.

137 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:50:45pm
138 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:50:56pm

re: #128 Lidane

Frank Gaffney is looking for attention again:

[Embedded content]

No wonder they hate the ACA. They must know that if they get within spitting distance of professional mental healthcare they won’t see the outside of an asylum for a very long time.

139 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:51:59pm
140 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:53:36pm

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

Ugandan President Museveni will sign the “Jail the Gays” bill.

advocate.com

Personally, the title ‘dictator’ is more appropriate in Museveni’s case, and more than a few Ugandans of my acquaintance would agree.

From the article, it appears that the actual text of this bill is not known. So it may still be the ‘Kill the gays’ bill it started out as.

141 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:53:45pm

re: #135 Varek Raith

FTFY.

WE MUST ATTACK THEM AT ONCE HOW DARE BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ALLOW THOSE MUSLIMS INVADE ARE WATERS AND THREATEN AMERICA??!?!?!??r*(�%!@ #TCOT #TGDN #LIBTARDS #OBUMMER

142 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:59:14pm

re: #140 EPR-radar

From the article, it appears that the actual text of this bill is not known. So it may still be the ‘Kill the gays’ bill it started out as.

Could be; no one’s had a chance to read the actual text of the bill.

143 simoom  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 12:59:22pm

Greenwald sniping at his former employer and his Snowden book competition:

TPM: Glenn Greenwald Calls Guardian Book On Snowden ‘Bullshit’

ft.com

Greenwald’s more abrasive side surfaces when the subject turns to a Guardian book, The Snowden Files, by Luke Harding, published in early February. “It is a bullshit book,” he says. “They are purporting to tell the inside story of Edward Snowden but it is written by someone who has never met or even spoken to Edward Snowden. Luke came here and talked to me for half a day without [my] realising that he was trying to get me to write his book for him. I cut the interview off when I realised what he was up to.”

At the time of our lunch, Greenwald had only read extracts from Harding’s book, which he thought put far too much emphasis on some youthful anonymous online posts that Snowden once wrote. Later, after reading the whole book, he would tell me by email that it did not trash Snowden.

At the time of our meeting, though, he was clearly angry about it. “One of the things about the Guardian that I really disliked is that they used Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and got a lot of benefit from publishing the material [diplomatic cables leaked by Bradley Manning] and then completely turned into being his leading demoniser.”

Greenwald has his own Snowden book, due for publication in April, which will be his attempt to explain what to make of the NSA scandal.

144 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:00:29pm
145 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:01:06pm

re: #136 Gus

Probably an old rusty frigate.

It’s the one we bombed the shit out of back in the late 1980s in the Tanker War, after it took a pot-shot at an A-6. A couple of tugs drug the heap back to port and they rebuilt it.

It’s a rough equivalent of one of the USCG’s larger cutters, from a war-making perspective. No meaningful self-defense capability, if for some reason we felt like deep-sixing the piece of shit.

146 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:01:21pm

re: #123 Kragar

I have been running up an Assassin as well, going into the Sniper tree mostly

When you get to the point you can reach the capstone ability in a skill tree, re-spec and try out Bloodshed, Many Must Fall is really entertaining.

re: #116 Romantic Heretic

I’ve not gotten the Mechromancer DLC yet. I might get the Psycho on the strength of the trailer for it.

Some of the offshoot DLCs like Sir Hammerlock’s Big Game Hunt sound like they might be a hoot.

I’ll probably wait until I’ve played all the way through with all the standard characters though.

The Big Game Hunt is most wobbly of the DLCs. Funny premise…not great execution. Lots of bullet sponge enemies that you can’t critical, not enough clever/witty commentary coming across the comm. Somebody had the clever idea of having all the mobs speak Native Gibberish, which rapidly becomes tedious, then becomes migraine inducing. Get it in a bundle or on sale.

The Psycho is pretty fun. The two added classes have more complex skill trees, with stack-based that require, like, actual math.

147 abolitionist  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:02:17pm

re: #129 klys

I believe they’re actually pegmatite dikes. That’s at the Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park.

Thanks. Looks like my guess was wrong. Pegmatite Dike

148 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:02:40pm

OT: PA Turnpike is open as per KYW1060 AM.

149 klys  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:03:36pm

re: #147 abolitionist

Thanks. Looks like my guess was wrong. Pegmatite Dike

It’s all good. :) Still a fantastic example of fun geology!

150 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:04:00pm

re: #137 klys

Some days you just feel tiny compared to the world.

But look how big mah foot is! I step on your puny world!

151 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:07:23pm

Anti-Gay Jim Crow Comes to Kansas

What does this mean in the real world? If you and your partner want to go buy groceries, but the owner—or manager—doesn’t “agree” with your relationship, they can refuse you service. If you want to go the movies, and the owner decides she’s uncomfortable—she can kick you out. Hotels can deny entry, gyms can deny access, and restaurants can eject you without consequence.

Obviously, some gay couples will want to sue. But under the law, anyone who turns away a gay couple is immune to a civil suit. What’s more, the couple will have to pay their opponents attorney’s fees.

On top of all of this, the bill authorizes anti-gay discrimination by anyone who works for the state of Kansas. Ambulances can refuse to come to the home of a gay couple, park managers can deny them entry, state hospitals can turn them away, and public welfare agencies can decline to work with them. Yes, the bill requires private managers and state employees to refer the couple to another person who will conduct their business, but in reality, those rules have a habit of falling by the wayside.

And while the bill is presented as a measure directed explicitly at same-sex couples, the language is much more ambiguous. One clause allows discrimination as long as the transaction is “related to the celebration of, any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar arrangement.”

There’s no way to know if a given transaction is related to a gay partnership. In most cases, there’s no way to know if someone is gay. But that doesn’t matter. Under this bill, if you believe someone is gay and purchasing something or making arrangements for the sake of a civil union or same-sex marriage, you can deny them service. Indeed, they don’t even have to be gay. Anyone suspected of working towards those ends could be subject to legalized harassment.

To put this simply, the Kansas House has just endorsed a comprehensive system of anti-gay discrimination. If it becomes law—which isn’t unlikely, given Republican control of the statehouse and governorship—it will yield a segregated world for gays and their allies, as they are forced to use businesses and other services that aren’t hostile to them.

I’m not going to page this, because I don’t have the energy to add to the article. I’m feeling really beat down right now. Really wish I could just gush about video games, but watching what’s going down not just in the US but around the world has just left me with no energy. I have no idea what to do.

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:07:59pm

Max Blumenthal got into a shit-flinging match with Jim Hoft.

Munchin’ Teh Popcorns.

153 ausador  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:08:56pm

Bwahahahaha…when all else fails move the goal posts…

Hey, evolutionists?

You can’t find 2,000,000 Jews in the desert, given their itenary [sic].

So don’t harp on a handful of missing kangroo[sic] bones and expect me to stay up at night wondering about it.

And for the record, I don’t believe the kangaroo trekked to and from the Ark in the first place.

I believe they were teleported.

But if you want to believe they trekked to and from the Ark, that’s fine.

Just don’t expect me to scratch my head over why you guys can[sic] find a few that died along the way.

I know why you can’t find them — you don’t.
Source:

Of course, that explains everything! God teleported the animals from the ark to whatever part of the world they are currently found in. No wonder the fossil pattern does not show a multi-continental migration only 4000 years ago. Funny that it never mentions that in the bible though, you would think they would have recorded that kind of a miracle. Hmmm?

154 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:10:45pm

Yet ANOTHER wingnut acknowledges a factual correction. It’s a red letter day.

155 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:11:07pm

re: #145 Testy Toad T

It’s the one we bombed the shit out of back in the late 1980s in the Tanker War, after it took a pot-shot at an A-6. A couple of tugs drug the heap back to port and they rebuilt it.

It’s a rough equivalent of one of the USCG’s larger cutters, from a war-making perspective. No meaningful self-defense capability, if for some reason we felt like deep-sixing the piece of shit.

At 6.18 p.m., an A-6 dropped a Mk-82 500 pound laser-guided bomb, which left the Sabalan paralyzed and on fire.

156 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:11:23pm
You can’t find 2,000,000 Jews in the desert, given their itenary [sic].

Did not wake up this morning realizing I would have to release the Whatnapple twice

158 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:12:09pm

re: #151 The Ghost of a Flea

Anti-Gay Jim Crow Comes to Kansas

I’m not going to page this, because I don’t have the energy to add to the article. I’m feeling really beat down right now. Really wish I could just gush about video games, but watching what’s going down not just in the US but around the world has just left me with no energy. I have no idea what to do.

It got Paged.

Recharge your batteries. Take a walk, or a nap, or a whatever works for you. Things are always good and bad, and caring is always a burnout-susceptible emotion.

{{TGofaF}}

159 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:12:44pm

re: #151 The Ghost of a Flea

Anti-Gay Jim Crow Comes to Kansas

I’m not going to page this, because I don’t have the energy to add to the article. I’m feeling really beat down right now. Really wish I could just gush about video games, but watching what’s going down not just in the US but around the world has just left me with no energy. I have no idea what to do.

Thanks. This kind of shit needs to get visibility. The so-con haters of Kansas are endorsing a sick, twisted so-called ‘Christianity’ that is nothing more than a manifestation of every bit of filth in their rotten souls.

160 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:13:13pm

Wingnuts are so freaking stupid.

161 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:13:44pm

re: #143 simoom

Greenwald sniping at his former employer and his Snowden book competition:

TPM: Glenn Greenwald Calls Guardian Book On Snowden ‘Bullshit’

ft.com

Food fight!

162 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:13:54pm

re: #153 ausador

The Bible is real, but they’ve got their interpretation wrong.

It wasn’t an Ark. It was a TARDIS. I understand the confusion. After all, TARDIS was invented by the Doctor’s daughter after the machine itself had long existed. And because it’s bigger on the inside, it’s easy for them to get every kind of creature into the craft with the greatest of ease.

That would make Noah not just a man, but Gallifreyan. With an extraordinarily long life too. That fits the Biblical descriptions too.

I can also understand the confusion over how much time elapsed. We’re dealing with timey-wimey, spacey-wacey kinds of things. Paradoxes, crossing your own time stream, and impossible souffle girls.

/////

163 allegro  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:14:25pm

re: #157 Feline Fearless Leader

The tree of woe!

164 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:14:26pm

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

Food fight!

May both sides get thoroughly slimed.

165 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:14:33pm

Just one 500 pounder in the right place stopped the rust bucket.

166 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:15:50pm

re: #151 The Ghost of a Flea

Anti-Gay Jim Crow Comes to Kansas

I’m not going to page this, because I don’t have the energy to add to the article. I’m feeling really beat down right now. Really wish I could just gush about video games, but watching what’s going down not just in the US but around the world has just left me with no energy.

{{{Hugs}}}

167 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:16:36pm

re: #157 Feline Fearless Leader

You get up some days and just can’t do anything with your branches!

Sometimes you just don’t want to touch your branches. (That’s a cholla cactus)

168 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:17:20pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

It got Paged.

Recharge your batteries. Take a walk, or a nap, or a whatever works for you. Things are always good and bad, and caring is always a burnout-susceptible emotion.

{{TGofaF}}

Actually, I know exactly what I’m going to go do.

I’m going to the 85th birthday of a sweet old lady who’s been with her girlfriend for 40 years and I’m going to give her a hug so big it doubles as chiropractic treatment.

169 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:18:25pm

re: #168 The Ghost of a Flea

Actually, I know exactly what I’m going to go do.

I’m going to the 85th birthday of a sweet old lady who’s been with her girlfriend for 40 years and I’m going to give her a hug so big it doubles as chiropractic treatment.

Sounds therapeutic all around!

170 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:18:37pm
171 ausador  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:18:46pm

re: #156 The Ghost of a Flea

Did not wake up this morning realizing I would have to release the Whatnapple twice

He seems to be complaining because archeologists have yet to find any conclusive evidence of Moses and the freed Hebrews 40 years of wandering in the Sinai (which is pretty small) desert.

172 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:19:32pm

IT’S A MOOZLAMIC SUICIDE SHIP THAT WILL PARK ITSELF IN NORFOLKS AND BLOW UP ALL OF MURICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

173 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:20:04pm
174 GunstarGreen  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:20:52pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

Thanks. This kind of shit needs to get visibility. The so-con haters of Kansas are endorsing a sick, twisted so-called ‘Christianity’ that is nothing more than a manifestation of every bit of filth in their rotten souls.

That, or based on the Old Testament. One of the two.

175 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:23:12pm

re: #174 GunstarGreen

That, or based on the Old Testament. One of the two.

This might be a distinction without a difference. After all, the lurid bits of the Old Testament certainly qualify as ‘a manifestation of every bit of filth in their rotten souls’, with bonus points for attributing much of the worst of it to the divinity.

176 docproto48  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:51:13pm

damn it I cant tell my joke any more I have for a number of years described the difference between a democrat and a republican view of democracy as:
Democrat: one person one vote
republican: one dollar one vote

I have even posted this on comments here at LGF

177 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:34:11pm

Typical right wing douchebag. Complain and liken criticism of you to the Holocaust and then advocate something that would be seen in a dictatorial regime.

178 sagehen  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 6:11:02pm

“In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.”

—Anatole France (1844-1924)

179 krypto  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 8:10:44pm

I have a better idea.

The number of votes a person gets should be directly proportional to how much work they do for each dollar of income.

The top 1% would be completely disenfranchised.


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