Byron York: Why the Republican Party Needs to Fear Ted Cruz

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Ted Cruz infuriated Senate Republicans this week with his Tea Party lunacy over the debt ceiling, but Byron York reminds them that Cruz represents a whole lot of right wingers who are living in a fantasy world: Angry at Ted Cruz, Republicans Should Remember What He Represents.

After some testy exchanges at the lunch, and a lot of negotiating in the afternoon, McConnell and other leaders decided to vote for the debt limit increase. Then several other Republicans, mostly those in unthreatened seats, agreed to vote along with them to provide cover. The bill passed with 12 Republicans joining all 55 Democrats.

Cruz, of course, voted no and accused lawmakers who voted yes of “not listening to the American people.” He even suggested those who are up for re-election — a group that very prominently includes McConnell himself — might soon pay a heavy price. “Sometimes, come November, the people remember,” Cruz said.

In the end, the gambit accomplished nothing for Senate Republicans. Some GOP lawmakers who already disliked Cruz now dislike him even more. But the episode did remind the Republican leadership, as if it needs any reminding, that there are conservatives around the country who are deeply frustrated by the GOP and want it to show some fight.

To them, Cruz represents that fight. Maybe they’ve been misled. Maybe they’re living in a fantasy land. But that’s what they believe. Republican leaders have to keep them in mind as November approaches.

The section I’ve outlined in bold is one of the most pathetic summations of the current state of the GOP I’ve seen yet, and it’s coming from a right wing journalist.

The Tea Party continues to wreak havoc on the US political system.

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177 comments
1 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:12:17pm

My comment is my name.

2 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:14:38pm

Ted’s not crazy, he’s just ahead of the curve. The GOP’s own politics have been leading them here for decades now, he and his ilk have just taken it to its logical conclusion: If government is the problem, then get rid of the government.

3 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:17:10pm
“In the 13 months I’ve been in the Senate it has become apparent to me the single thing that Republican politicians hate and fear the most, and that is when they’re forced to tell the truth. It makes their heads explode,” Cruz told radio host Mark Levin Thursday. […] “A lot of the Republicans wanted exactly what Barack Obama wanted, exactly what Nancy Pelosi wanted, exactly what Harry Reid wanted, which is to raise the debt ceiling, but they wanted to be able to tell what they view as their foolish, gullible constituents back home they didn’t do it.”

God Himself help me, Ted Cruz is exactly fucking right.

We couldn’t have picked a better sleeper agent if we’d tried.

4 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:18:02pm

cruz will never be as talented a demagogue as the kingfish

5 jaunte  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:20:01pm

re: #3 Testy Toad T

“raise the debt ceiling”

Cruz has no standing to talk about telling the truth when he keeps using this construction as a substitute for the phrase “agree to pay for debts already incurred.”

6 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:29:45pm

Ron Reagan Jr.: Ted Cruz is trying to destroy the Republican Party so he can save it

“Ted Cruz apparently thinks that somebody has got to rise out of the smoking ruins that is the Republican Party,” said Reagan, “and apparently he feels that somebody can be him. He first has to create the smoking ruins, of course, and he’s doing a pretty good job of that.”

7 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:31:05pm
8 Weet  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:31:20pm

Ted is a crazy, perverted person, and he’s hurting the “true conservatives” versus the crazies in the Republican Party. It’s wonderful.

9 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:32:24pm

OT: Rest of world laughs hysterically.

nbcnews.com

10 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:32:25pm

What these mental midgets keep ignoring. Congress appropriates the spending for the nation. The debt ceiling is an artificial construct, and Congress has to increase it in tandem (or they should) with their annual budget bills (or budget extenders, etc.).

The Gephardt rule would eliminate this charade, but the GOP doesn’t want to do that since they think this would give them another bite of the budget apple and let them impose cuts they couldn’t have otherwise gotten by threatening a default on US obligations if the ceiling isn’t increased to cover what we’re spending.

For all the GOP talk about fiscal responsibility, their position on the debt ceiling is the most irresponsible of all because of the threat they pose to the US economy by defaulting. They run up the credit risk, increasing costs to all levels of government on borrowing since it becomes a riskier proposition to borrow.

But the GOP hasn’t been about fiscal responsibility in decades really. Sure, they’ll talk about budget deficits or the national debt from time to time, but that usually happens when a Democrat is in the White House, and it’s ignored when a Republican is running up the bills as fast or faster than the nearest Democrat. Complain about Obama, but ignore that Bush ran up the debt 3x greater. Complain about Obama, but ignore Reagan 8x increase in the debt over Carter.

Much of those debt increases is due in part to the tax policy and spending choices. But those things are third rails considering that people generally like the services that the government provides - as witnessed by the shutdown, when the GOP sought to blame the National Parks and Monuments closures on Obama, but then turned around and tried to weasel a way to reopen them because of the economic benefits to those communities nearby that rely on them (and it’s a huge number to be sure). Or Medicare or Medicaid. Or Social Security.

11 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:32:26pm

The GOP is currently dying a slow demographic death. With every election they’re becoming more and more of an insular, regional, white party.

Ted Cruz and the other teabaggers are just helping to speed that process along.

12 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:32:57pm

No Ted, the American people want a government that works. The crazy and deluded ones, like yourself, actually believe no government, or some kind of Christian theocracy, is what they want.

13 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:33:07pm

re: #8 Weet

Ted is a crazy, perverted person, and he’s hurting the “true conservatives” versus the crazies in the Republican Party. It’s wonderful.

He’s running the classic fascist “man on a white horse” ploy —- start with (or help create) a disaster, then play the role of a rescuer.

It’s all very entertaining, as long as the plan ends up failing.

14 nines09  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:35:49pm

Ted is the GOP They created him.

15 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:36:23pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Good analysis. For the debt ceiling I’m fond of a short and crude analogy to household finances.

Taking the debt ceiling seriously is like the head of a household jamming a propane tank up his/her rectum and detonating it, as opposed to dealing with incomes (i.e., taxes) and spending (i.e., appropriations).

16 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:36:27pm

I wouldn’t have thought Byron York would have had this in him.

Thanks, though, for speaking up for what’s left of the Republican Party. When are people with some critical skills going to reclaim the Republican Party so this country can get shit done again without all the fantasizing? So it can get done in Congress what it should have been doing for years now, what it previously did for a couple of hundred?

17 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:37:26pm

Also see this
bloomberg.com

And see Cruz’s new gambit, an attempt to retread and remount the shredded DOMA:

cruz.senate.gov

18 darthstar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:37:31pm

re: #9 Feline Fearless Leader

OT: Rest of world laughs hysterically.

nbcnews.com

Come on, Brevik…in 25 years you will be the best playstation 2 expert in the world.

19 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:39:12pm

re: #18 darthstar

Screw the Playstation 2. He gets nothing but Atari 2600 games. You know, the ones with the screwy joysticks, and that you’d have to blow on the contacts for the cartridges to work right.

And the only games? Pong and Combat.

20 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:39:28pm

re: #9 Feline Fearless Leader

I have a new job that I want most in the world today. The job of providing a written response to Breivik’s demands.

21 freetoken  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:41:19pm

Fantasy land, indeed.

22 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:42:23pm

Clearly we need to cover more than our heads in tin foil. //

23 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:43:33pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

He’s running the classic fascist “man on a white horse” ploy —- start with (or help create) a disaster, then play the role of a rescuer.

It’s all very entertaining, as long as the plan ends up failing.

You forgot the pivotal part where “rescue” arrives by re-defining the problem such that the “solution” is to isolate and vilify some group of people.

In the case of Ted Cruz, this is playing out on the micro scale of party platform and power distribution, and the macro scale of the US culture war. First purify the RINOs and crypto-liberals in the GOP, then address the corrupting influence of all the groups classified as Not Real Americans by the cultural warriors.

24 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:44:40pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Screw the Playstation 2. He gets nothing but Atari 2600 games. You know, the ones with the screwy joysticks, and that you’d have to blow on the contacts for the cartridges to work right.

And the only games? Pong and Combat.

He gets nothing but ET and Daikatana.

25 darthstar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:44:46pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Screw the Playstation 2. He gets nothing but Atari 2600 games. You know, the ones with the screwy joysticks, and that you’d have to blow on the contacts for the cartridges to work right.

And the only games? Pong and Combat.

I could play Pong for 25 years. The rest of the flashy games? Meh. All those graphics and shit get boring as they’re limited by the imagination of the artists. Pong is pure, and is limited only by one’s own imagination.

26 Testy Toad T  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:44:56pm

And Duke Nukem Forever.

27 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:45:17pm

re: #23 The Ghost of a Flea

You forgot the pivotal part where “rescue” arrives by re-defining the problem such that the “solution” is to isolate and vilify some group of people.

In the case of Ted Cruz, this is playing out on the micro scale of party platform and power distribution, and the macro scale of the US culture war. First purify the RINOs and crypto-liberals in the GOP, then address the corrupting influence of all the groups classified as Not Real Americans by the cultural warriors.

Precisely. The US will slide into fascism if/when a critical mass of voters buy into this scapegoating shit.

28 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:46:42pm


Boom!

29 Ian G.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:47:32pm

re: #1 Please Proceed

My comment is my name.

Sorry, but I’m imagining Marlo Stanfield saying this in a cold fury.

Carry on.

30 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:48:29pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Screw the Playstation 2. He gets nothing but Atari 2600 games. You know, the ones with the screwy joysticks, and that you’d have to blow on the contacts for the cartridges to work right.

And the only games? Pong and Combat.

I wouldn’t even give him that much. Toss a few invisible ink books in his cell and tell him to STFU.

31 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:48:36pm

re: #28 Gus

President Barack Obama criticized a number of Tennessee Republican lawmakers for threatening to withhold tax incentives of a potential Volkswagen automotive plant expansion if auto workers there decide to join the United Auto Workers union.

This is remarkably shitty, even for GOP politicians

32 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:49:53pm

re: #30 Lidane

I wouldn’t even give him that much. Toss a few invisible ink books in his cell and tell him to STFU.

My first thought is to give him a Tower of Hanoi puzzle with 20 disks…

33 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:50:32pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

This is remarkably shitty, even for GOP politicians

That’ll teach ‘em!
— TN GOP

34 Mattand  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:51:56pm

Opening paragraph from the featured article:

Republicans have a good chance to win control of the Senate this November. Democrats are on the defensive over Obamacare, the president is unpopular, and history suggests second-term mid-terms are nearly always unlucky for the White House.

Not gonna argue about the third statement, but the first two sound like Bubble Talk, as in the Fox News-themed reality distortion field many US conservatives seem to wallow in.

35 Ian G.  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:52:00pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

He’s running the classic fascist “man on a white horse” ploy —- start with (or help create) a disaster, then play the role of a rescuer.

It’s all very entertaining, as long as the plan ends up failing.

Yes, I’m quite convinced that, in his heart, Cruz is more of a maniac than Augusto Pinochet. He just has way more roadblocks on his way to eventually shooting Victor Jara in a stadium for treason (who would the American Victor Jara be? Bruce Springsteen? Steve Earle?).

And Cruz’ daddy, I’m convinced, would give Ruhollah Khomeini a run for the money in the batshit lunacy department.

36 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:53:03pm

re: #18 darthstar

Come on, Brevik…in 25 years you will be the best playstation 2 expert in the world.

Once in a while, I question my resolve to see the death penalty eliminated.

This is one of those times.

77 people will never get another chance to play anything, you prick.

37 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:56:13pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

Once in a while, I question my resolve to see the death penalty eliminated.

This is one of those times.

77 people will never get another chance to play anything, you prick.

For a long time, I was a supporter of the death penalty because some crimes deserve death.

Now I’m an opponent of the death penalty, even though my belief that some crimes deserve death has not changed in the least.

What has changed in my thinking is that, at least in the US, the system is demonstrably incapable of anything close to the required accuracy in determining guilt and innocence to justify imposition of capital punishment.

38 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:56:58pm

Today’s WTF CNN?

motherjones.com

39 leftynyc  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:58:02pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

Once in a while, I question my resolve to see the death penalty eliminated.

This is one of those times.

77 people will never get another chance to play anything, you prick.

Not only would he not get Playstation 3, I’d take playstation 2 away from him also. That would be my threat he continues his hunger strike. Or I’d just let the prick starve.

40 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 1:59:30pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

Precisely. The US will slide into fascism if/when a critical mass of voters buy into this scapegoating shit.

Pretty much the reason I started getting interested in politics only after I moved back to KY. I couldn’t ignore that even the people who were/are good to me—white male, presumed to be Christian—really, really believe that a lot of people just don’t deserve equal rights. Scratch anybody that talks about the 10th amendment and you’ll find someone who wants somebody…women, gays, minorities, “illegals”…to be silenced.

Stuff like the crazy Kansas law…it’s not a stunt or some kind of futile gesture. It will likely get turfed, or struck down…but it will come back. It reflects an actual legislative agenda…as does all of the other laughable, un-Constitutional stuff that bubbles up in the HoR and the state legislatures. There are people in this country with money and influence, and they’re expending it to create a society where only they speak.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:01:21pm

For every right-winger who acknowledges and thanks being corrected for a fake quote, I get about a dozen of these:

42 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:01:34pm

re: #40 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m insulated from much of this crap by living in the SF bay area. I don’t think I’d deal well with encountering US fascists and Confederates in day to day life.

43 freetoken  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:01:57pm

re: #38 Randall Gross

Desperate-Media - I’m using a compound noun now. CNN and the gazillion of other outlets who are desperate for eyes-on-product will go with anyone just to get more of an audience.

Our society is becoming such a parody of itself. I’m reminded of the Ruby Rhod character from The Fifth Element. Ruby was not really much of an exaggeration.

44 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:03:56pm

BREAKING!!11! Notice that it’s a Bactrian camel and those come from Central Asia. No doubt the conspiracy theorists are putting on their tinfoil beanies and getting to work: Commie camel! No wait, Jihadi camel! No wait…


Okay, I’m gonna stay away as I’m trying to stick to @JihadiJew’s suggestion of a #NoKvetch sabbath.

Oh, and Happy Valentine’s Day! ;o)

45 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:05:11pm

Here’s a Valentine from the gun-fucker to his True Love.

46 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:05:43pm


(o.o) O.O (o.o)

47 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:06:40pm

re: #46 Gus

Oscar Pistorius mourns slain

yah i just needed something to take the fun out of valentine’s day

48 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:07:15pm

re: #45 Pie-onist Overlord

Valentine’s day always makes me grumpier than usual, so this is a perfect opportunity to point out that guns do have a nasty tendency to make domestic disputes more lethal.

49 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:09:15pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

I’m insulated from much of this crap by living in the SF bay area. I don’t think I’d deal well with encountering US fascists and Confederates in day to day life.

Hmmm. New business opportunity: Start a dude ranch here in Alabama for coastal lefties who want to sample the ‘Real America’ experience.

50 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:10:52pm

re: #47 dog philosopher

yah i just needed something to take the fun out of valentine’s day

51 allegro  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:11:12pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

Valentine’s day always makes me grumpier than usual, so this is a perfect opportunity to point out that guns do have a nasty tendency to make domestic disputes more lethal.

For some reason I’m reading that as “I hope she shoots his ass the next time he demands she make him a sammich.”

52 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:12:27pm

re: #43 freetoken

Desperate-Media - I’m using a compound noun now. CNN and the gazillion of other outlets who are desperate for eyes-on-product will go with anyone just to get more of an audience.

Our society is becoming such a parody of itself. I’m reminded of the Ruby Rhod character from The Fifth Element. Ruby was not really much of an exaggeration.

Youtube Video

53 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:12:29pm

re: #51 allegro

For some reason I’m reading that as “I hope she shoots his ass the next time he demands she make him a sammich.”

I’m not that grumpy today….

54 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:13:14pm

OT, and perhaps not the best Valentine’s Day present, but here in the Czech Republic, we got a real old-fashioned, genuine murder mystery!!

Here’s my translation/edit of the story:

Prague - In the Modᖚny district of Prague, a 64-year old woman was found dead in a tram. She was found with head injuries and police are saying that she was murdered. Prague police spokesman Jan Danek today announced that the police are looking to contact any potential witnesses.

Police received a call on Thursday morning, before 11:00 AM regarding the injured woman, who was discovered unconscious and bleeding from the head. “The woman was discovered in the second car of Tram 17 at Libušský Potok station in Prague Modᖚny. It seems that she was going from terminus Levského toward the center, ” said the spokesman.

Police found the identity of the dead woman and this morning an autopsy determined that the woman was murdered, said Danek . The case was assigned to detectives from the First Department of the Regional Directorate of the City of Prague, who deal with violent crime.

The police had information that the woman boarded tram number 17 around 9:55 AM at Palacky Square and went to the final stop Levského; the tram was headed back to the city center from Levského, departing from the Levského terminus at 10:24 AM. “It is essential for forensic testimony and that passengers who rode the tram come forward, especially if they noticed anything suspicious . It is important to map the last hours of the dead woman” the spokesman said.

The woman was 165-168 cm in height, slim, with short-cut red hair . She wore a gray-blue three-quarter length coat with dark pants and dark shoes. She wore a black hat, a purse over her shoulder and a small checkered handbag.

The original Czech-language is here: ceskenoviny.cz

OK. We have a tram, and at that time of the morning in Prague, there’s more than a few people on the tram. Trams in Prague do not have security cameras. So, woman gets on the tram at 9:55 AM, and is found dead less than one hour later from a bleeding head injury.

Discuss.

55 mr.fusion  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:13:27pm

re: #47 dog philosopher

yah i just needed something to take the fun out of valentine’s day

because it’s so much fun already ///

56 allegro  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:13:35pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

I’m not that grumpy today….

Seems I’m projecting again. Heh.

57 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:14:00pm

re: #46 Gus

[Embedded content]


(o.o) O.O (o.o)

Cry those crocodile tears, Oscar…

58 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:15:49pm

re: #39 leftynyc

Not only would he not get Playstation 3, I’d take playstation 2 away from him also. That would be my threat he continues his hunger strike. Or I’d just let the prick starve.

I’d lock Brevik up with all the books he’d despise: The Communist Manifesto, Krugman’s The Conscience of a Liberal, Stupid White Men — or perhaps whatever the Norwegian equivalents would be.

He gets absolutely nothing that gives him comfort or reinforces his point of view. Nothing.

59 allegro  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:18:05pm

re: #58 BongCrodny

I’d lock Brevik up with all the books he’d despise: The Communist Manifesto, Krugman’s The Conscience of a Liberal, Stupid White Men — or perhaps whatever the Norwegian equivalents would be.

He gets absolutely nothing that gives him comfort or reinforces his point of view. Nothing.

And when he decides to eat aging give him Brussels sprouts and lutefisk.

60 aagcobb  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:21:19pm

re: #50 Gus

[Embedded content]

Flowers are for Valentines
lotion is for skin
Please be my Valentine
or it gets the hose again.

61 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:21:50pm

I’ve got a video game called Wood Chipper™ he might like.

62 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:22:00pm

How can Ted Cruz possibly fail when he’s got people like this behind him?

63 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:22:23pm
64 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:23:20pm

Another game he might like. Although it would be a series of games in piece I call Saw™.

65 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:23:24pm

How is it now?

66 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:24:45pm

Then there’s another one called Big Giant HVAC Fan™.

67 Lidane  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:24:56pm
Maybe they’ve been misled. Maybe they’re living in a fantasy land. But that’s what they believe.

Oh come on, Byron. That’s so unfair. I mean, what could possibly make you think the RWNJs live in a fantasy world?


Oh right. Never mind.

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:25:18pm
But the episode did remind the Republican leadership, as if it needs any reminding, that there are conservatives around the country who are deeply frustrated by the GOP and want it to show some fight.

No, Byron. But there are Republicans who are quite sick and tired being seen as a national joke because of you right wing so-called conservatives.
We would appreciate it if you would all just shut up, go home and play with your teabags quietly.

69 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:26:07pm

If the GOP were really all about economics and not about legislating morality or trying to get their own way in everything, the would fund Comprehensive Sex Education and Cost-Free Contraception.

my mantra -sigh!

70 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:27:07pm

Handcuff him to a flag pole with a bomb on a timer set for 20 minutes but also give him a saw.

71 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:27:33pm

re: #63 Lidane

That’s actually not a good analogy to use here. 3/5 was a compromise between the South that wanted the slaves to count 100% for the purposes of apportioning House districts, and the North that wanted the slaves to count 0% for this purpose.

So saying that 3/5 is too low actually aligns one with the South in terms of historical arguments.

72 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:29:06pm

They’ll probably release him in 14 years and he’ll run for EU parliament for Belgium or Denmark and win.

// Half.

73 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:29:37pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, Byron. But there are Republicans who are quite sick and tired being seen as a national joke because of you right wing so-called conservatives.
We would appreciate it if you would all just shut up, go home and play with your teabags quietly.

The RWNJs have been taking over the state and local GOP organizations for decades. The sane Republicans need to fight back everywhere, if it’s not already too late. After all, the RWNJs just about have full control of the party.

74 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:30:01pm

Maybe Austria. //

75 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:31:21pm

Cruz/Perkins 2016!! Where do I send the check?

76 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:31:42pm
77 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:31:56pm

re: #28 Gus

Boom!

Thing is, VW wanted the Chattanooga workers to vote on this; they set up “worker’s councils” at their other plants long ago to hash out issues between labor and management, but, under US labor law, in order for VW to do it here, they are required to let the workers vote on outside union representation (in this case, the UAW).

78 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:32:39pm
79 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:32:57pm

Happy Valentines Day lizards!

Now a cute doggie pic…


80 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:34:25pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

The GOP is still looking for jobs in all the wrong places.

81 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:34:50pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Oh that party of small government and individual rights.

82 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:35:54pm
83 gwangung  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:36:00pm

re: #77 TedStriker

Thing is, VW wanted the Chattanooga workers to vote on this; they set up “worker’s councils” at their other plants long ago to hash out issues between labor and management, but, under US labor law, in order for VW to do it here, they are required to let the workers vote on outside union representation (in this case, the UAW).

So, this is a situation where nobody who’s sane would have any problem with this, right? And it’s all a matter of the local GOP wanting to be dicks?

84 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:40:57pm
85 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:41:10pm

Isn’t every other VW plant unionized?

86 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:41:53pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

I’m insulated from much of this crap by living in the SF bay area. I don’t think I’d deal well with encountering US fascists and Confederates in day to day life.

Honestly, most days it’s more sad than scary.

There are lots of people who are lovely to me because they see me as part of the same tribe, whose ethics and honor I depend upon, and who’ve never let me down….but they vote for the people that propose the most vicious, prejudicial stuff, particularly when it comes to religion and gays.

I have a (distant) relative—super sweet guy to be around, super rich. He’s a power broker in state politics who lays down a lot of money to advance social conservative causes and agendas. Totally believes he’s saving the state and the nation from Evil. Church-state seperation is a quaint, ridiculous thing to him: he’s super proud he got federal money for a faith-based rehab center/halfway house where the treatment is Jesus and more Jesus.

There’s so many subjects where testing the water brings out the ugly. Lots of people are okay with the town’s open gay couple, but still vote in ways that took away their rights. I run a business with my mother, and holy shit does the sexism flow free. Race relations are generally cordial, but the slightest tension reveals an ugly strain of “model minority” stuff, where there’s The Wrong Kind Of Blacks, and The Wrong Kind of Asians/Hispanics…all of which involves white people as umpires. Obama-related talk rapidly falls into a lot of ugly stereotypes about blacks and Muslims.

I actually feel worse for my Mom, who’s of an age where most of her cohorts are Fox News people. She lost friends when Obama got elected…people just assumed how she voted and unloaded on her.

87 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:42:23pm

re: #83 gwangung

So, this is a situation where nobody who’s sane would have any problem with this, right? And it’s all a matter of the local GOP wanting to be to prove they have dicks?

FTFY

88 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:43:31pm
89 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:44:33pm

We must ban balloons!

90 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:44:39pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Hmmm. New business opportunity: Start a dude ranch here in Alabama for coastal lefties who want to sample the ‘Real America’ experience.

Shit, just read my Facebook feed. My cousin in West By God Oh For Shit’s Sake Virginia is chock full of ‘Real America’.

91 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:45:52pm
92 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:46:23pm

Borderlands 2 is awesome.

I was in my Runner having a fight with a Bandit truck when I got blown up. I landed on their front hood in “Fight for my Life” mode, shot the driver, blew up their truck and got my Second Wind.

93 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:46:24pm

re: #89 Gus

We must ban balloons!

They re filled with explosive gas.

94 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:46:34pm

re: #90 GeneJockey

Shit, just read my Facebook feed. My cousin in West By God Oh For Shit’s Sake Virginia is chock full of ‘Real America’.

Ah “Real America” as opposed to Fake America.

95 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:47:10pm

re: #88 Gus

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They’re always complaining about something. St. Valentine’s Day definitely provokes them….aside from being a holiday for an early Church martyr, it’s regarded as a “Western cultural import” (one of the reasons hardline Hindus go apeshit about it as well).

Fundies - of any creed - get under my skin.

96 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:47:19pm

re: #93 Amory Blaine

They re filled with explosive gas.

And they give womanly voices to men! This must end!

//

97 Aunty Entity Dragon  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:47:55pm

re: #11 Lidane

The GOP is currently dying a slow demographic death. With every election they’re becoming more and more of an insular, regional, white party.

Ted Cruz and the other teabaggers are just helping to speed that process along.

That is why they are trying to pick their own voters. Gerrymandering, voter ID laws, disenfranchising minorities through the voter roles and an especially sneaky one…proportional electoral votes in blue states but winner take all in red states (which you see attempts at in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania)

98 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:48:30pm

Ban the helium because it gives lightness to balloons which is joyous and of the devil!

99 jaunte  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:48:38pm

re: #89 Gus

We must ban balloons!

eeeep!

100 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:48:51pm

re: #97 Aunty Entity Dragon

That is why they are trying to pick their own voters. Gerrymandering, voter ID laws, disenfranchising minorities through the voter roles and an especially sneaky one…proportional electoral votes in blue states but winner take all in red states (which you see attempts at in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania)

They tried that in Virginia too but even McDonnell for all his ethical failings realized what a load of shit that would be.

101 Aunty Entity Dragon  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:49:39pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

This is remarkably shitty, even for GOP politicians

Welcome to Right to Work get screwed over by your employer and have no legal recourse if you are fired, harassed or injured on the job.

102 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:50:40pm

This is why you must pop every young persons balloon. It is indoctrination!!!

103 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:51:18pm


and we complain about our government wasting resources …

104 Aunty Entity Dragon  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:51:21pm

re: #84 FemNaziBitch

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Never, ever feed chocolate to a pet. Dogs will love it…to death. Good for us and really bad for just about everything else.

105 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:51:28pm

Evening Lizardim from the clear and cool wild north country. Happy Valentine’s Day to all you amorous lizards out there among the lizardfolk. How go things in the war on derp?

106 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:51:48pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

They tried that in Virginia too but even McDonnell for all his ethical failings realized what a load of shit that would be.

I think the talk of that has mainly died down because the timing is wrong. The time for the GOP to pull that crap is in 2015, since that would lock in electoral votes for 2016 with no opportunity to turn it around at the state level in time.

107 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:51:59pm

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

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and she is not a size 6 —how refreshing!

108 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:53:47pm

re: #104 Aunty Entity Dragon

Never, ever feed chocolate to a pet. Dogs will love it…to death. Good for us and really bad for just about everything else.

only dark chocolate. One of our dogs at 6 milk chocolate bars and we rushed to the vet to be told that it was way under the toxic amount for her weight (40lbs). “She might get the runs”. They didn’t even call us into a room and didn’t charge us for the visit.

She was fine.

109 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:55:07pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

I think the talk of that has mainly died down because the timing is wrong. The time for the GOP to pull that crap is in 2015, since that would lock in electoral votes for 2016 with no opportunity to turn it around at the state level in time.

Gotta hope the Dems can reclaim some governor’s mansions then. The good news about VA though is this won’t happen with McAuliffe sitting in Richmond and the Dems I believe now controlling the staet senate.

110 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:55:40pm

ignatz cat disdains chocolate in favor of strawberries and wheat thins

111 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:56:29pm

aaah it seems the bouquet has embarrassed unfrozen siberian girlfriend at the place of employment

112 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:57:27pm
113 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:57:34pm

re: #83 gwangung

So, this is a situation where nobody who’s sane would have any problem with this, right? And it’s all a matter of the local GOP wanting to be dicks?

Pretty much.

This “outrageous outrage” is Governor Haslam and Senators Corker and Alexander’s way to buff their True Conservative bonafides, lest the TPers they have courted turn on them.

114 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:57:48pm

I made about 50 homemade caramel turtles for a New Years Eve party at a friend’s house years ago. Left it on the kitchen counter, returned about a hour later to grab some food, the turtles were gone. Mind you there’s only like 15 people at this party. Turns out his dog ate all of them. Wax paper and all. He was OK though but I was not pleased.

115 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:57:49pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Gotta hope the Dems can reclaim some governor’s mansions then. The good news about VA though is this won’t happen with McAuliffe sitting in Richmond and the Dems I believe now controlling the staet senate.

If the GOP goes for this way of giving itself electoral votes, I would view it as an admission of defeat on the issues. While it would be perfectly legal/constitutional to do this, the optics would be so horrible that even the swing voters should be revolted by it.

116 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:58:36pm

re: #107 FemNaziBitch

and she is not a size 6 —how refreshing!

I re-watched episode 1 of Mad Men last night. There’s a scene where they go to a strip club for Pete Campbell’s bachelor party. The stripper was startlingly voluptuous. She reminded me of how Marilyn Monroe was built, back when women who were built like women were admired for it. I’m pretty sure they chose the performer on that basis, since the rest of that episode was designed to jar you with the very different sensibilities of the place and time.

117 Aunty Entity Dragon  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:58:36pm

The amorous Carolina Anole for all you Valentine’s Day lizards… :)

118 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:59:06pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

If the GOP goes for this way of giving itself electoral votes, I would view it as an admission of defeat on the issues. While it would be perfectly legal/constitutional to do this, the optics would be so horrible that even the swing voters should be revolted by it.

That’s how I view these attempts. I think the GOP knows that their party is a party for the very rich by the very rich and they can’t win growing demographics so they decide instead of making sincere efforts to improve on issues important to those groups to limit their influence at the polls.

119 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:59:07pm

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

only dark chocolate. One of our dogs at 6 milk chocolate bars and we rushed to the vet to be told that it was way under the toxic amount for her weight (40lbs). “She might get the runs”. They didn’t even call us into a room and didn’t charge us for the visit.

She was fine.

I had a dog that ate a half sheet pan of brownies ones. He had the runs for 3 days but was fine otherwise. It was very good brownies too, we both had one piece. The dog had the rest.

120 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:00:13pm


dark ages, that is …

121 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:00:13pm

re: #116 GeneJockey

I re-watched episode 1 of Mad Men last night. There’s a scene where they go to a strip club for Pete Campbell’s bachelor party. The stripper was startlingly voluptuous. She reminded me of how Marilyn Monroe was built, back when women who were built like women were admired for it. I’m pretty sure they chose the performer on that basis, since the rest of that episode was designed to jar you with the very different sensibilities of the place and time.

You know who was a gorgeous woman from that time? Grace Kelly. Loved her in Rear Window. Definitely my favorite of the old time actresses.

122 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:00:42pm

re: #117 Aunty Entity Dragon

[Embedded image]

The amorous Carolina Anole for all you Valentine’s Day lizards… :)

Just Anole fashioned love song…

123 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:01:27pm
124 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:01:47pm

re: #120 FemNaziBitch

dark ages, that is …

the version i heard was “one to screw in the lightbulb, and 59 to screw the rest of the world”

125 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:02:55pm

re: #88 Gus

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You can’t make this stuff up:

The Salafist participants handed out fliers proclaiming that Valentine’s Day was forbidden. However, the fliers were printed in red, the color of love. “It was an error of judgment in printing,” commented one of the sheikhs.

Oopsie!

126 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:02:57pm

re: #117 Aunty Entity Dragon

[Embedded image]

The amorous Carolina Anole for all you Valentine’s Day lizards… :)

Hey hey hey! You gotta slap a NSFW tag on those things. The lizard overlords don’t exactly approve of lizard porn at work.///

127 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:04:23pm

re: #120 FemNaziBitch

There are other entertaining answers to this:

None, screwing in a lightbulb require acknowledging reality, which is unacceptable.

None, performing manual labor is unacceptable.

None, David Vitter hid the lightbulb, and his colleagues weren’t about to ask where it was.

128 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:04:23pm

re: #125 CuriousLurker

Granted, i never liked Valentine’s Day, as I was always alone. Not to mention its origins are about the most bizarre I can find.

But they are being spectacularly stupid about this.

129 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:04:28pm

re: #125 CuriousLurker

You can’t make this stuff up:

Oopsie!

[Embedded image]

For next year we should start a campaign to send them Valentines.

130 jaunte  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:04:28pm

re: #125 CuriousLurker

They’re going to have a tough time with the sunset.

131 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:04:31pm

Time to feed the creatures… .

bbl

132 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:05:40pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

You know who was a gorgeous woman from that time? Grace Kelly. Loved her in Rear Window. Definitely my favorite of the old time actresses.

Or Dial M For Murder, or To Catch A Thief. You can see why Hitchcock kept trying to find her in a string of other blond actresses. Some were good, but none of them were Grace Kelly.

133 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:06:27pm

re: #132 GeneJockey

Or Dial M For Murder, or To Catch A Thief. You can see why Hitchcock kept trying to find her in a string of other blond actresses. Some were good, but none of them were Grace Kelly.

Need to see those. But yeah she was just a beautiful woman inside and out. Left us way too early.

134 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:07:12pm

re: #120 FemNaziBitch

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dark ages, that is …

“How many Centauri does it take to screw in a light bulb? Only one.

“But in the grand days of the Republic, thousands of slaves jumped to replace millions of light bulbs at our merest whim!”

135 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:08:04pm

She’s quite beautiful.

The Iranian woman above, that is.

136 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:08:15pm

re: #128 The War TARDIS

Granted, i never liked Valentine’s Day, as I was always alone. Not to mention its origins are about the most bizarre I can find.

But they are being spectacularly stupid about this.

Ha, yeah I always hated V-Day for that reason too but that’s just a little extreme. MAybe someone should give the person that came up with this a Choo-Choo-Choose me card.

137 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:08:53pm

re: #125 CuriousLurker

You can’t make this stuff up:

Oopsie!

[Embedded image]

But rumors were unconfirmed if they used hearts in the edict :).

138 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:10:49pm

re: #98 Gus

Ban the helium because it gives lightness to balloons which is joyous and of the devil!

There actually is a good reason to ban helium for use in balloons, absent religious fundamentalism. Most advanced diagnostic medical imaging requires it, also used to operate pebble bed reactors and irreplaceable for industrial leak detection (hyrdogen too reactive to replace it in certain applications). When it’s gone, it’s gone, no more MRIs, at least until we develop long term stable room temperature superconductors. The price is set artificially low against this long term scarcity, and putting it in balloons is massively frivolous against the other medical, scientific and industrial uses.

139 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:11:36pm

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

Idaho bill would allow doctors or cops to refuse service to LGBT people on religious grounds

“do no harm”

Oh, fuck that shit. That’s discrimination, out and out. Their damned religion ends when another person’s right to live is concerned.

140 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:12:35pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

There actually is a good reason to ban helium for use in balloons, absent religious fundamentalism. Most advanced diagnostic medical imaging requires it, also used to operate pebble bed reactors and irreplaceable for industrial leak detection (hyrdogen too reactive for replace it in certain applications). When it’s gone, it’s gone, no more MRIs, at least until we develop long term stable room temperature superconductors. The price is set artificially low against this long term scarcity, and putting it in balloons is massively frivolous against the other medical, scientific and industrial uses.

We could always use hydrogen for balloons instead. What could possibly go wrong with that?
/////

141 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:12:53pm

re: #134 GeneJockey

“How many Centauri does it take to screw in a light bulb? Only one.

“But in the grand days of the Republic, thousands of slaves jumped to replace millions of light bulbs at our merest whim!”

How many Vorlon does it take to change a light bulb? None, it was always there.

142 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:14:06pm

re: #139 Justanotherhuman

Oh, fuck that shit. That’s discrimination, out and out. Their damned religion ends when another person’s right to live is concerned.

They want COPS and DOCTORS to be allowed to refuse to help certain people bases on their own prejudices? What. The. Everloving. Fuck?

143 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:16:28pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

How many Vorlon does it take to change a light bulb? None, it was always there.

How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Just one. He sticks the end into the socket and waits for the world to revolve around him.

144 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:16:35pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

There actually is a good reason to ban helium for use in balloons, absent religious fundamentalism. Most advanced diagnostic medical imaging requires it, also used to operate pebble bed reactors and irreplaceable for industrial leak detection (hyrdogen too reactive for replace it in certain applications). When it’s gone, it’s gone, no more MRIs, at least until we develop long term stable room temperature superconductors. The price is set artificially low against this long term scarcity, and putting it in balloons is massively frivolous against the other medical, scientific and industrial uses.

Yet another reason that fusion needs to take off - fusing the most common element in the universe has the side benefit of making helium more available as a byproduct.

145 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:17:07pm

If their religion should be allowed to discriminate, then their religion should be discriminated against.

Full stop.

146 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:17:11pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Just one. He sticks the end into the socket and waits for the world to revolve around him.

Oi! I resemble that remark!

147 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:17:17pm

What happened with Shakira?

148 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:18:39pm

re: #88 Gus

[Embedded content]

Meanwhile in Pakistan….
Pakistan students wounded in Valentine’s Day clash

Students from the left-leaning Pakhtun Students Federation were marking the international day of romance with red balloons and cake when they were attacked by students from the rival Islami Jamiat Tulba (IJT) group.

The IJT, the student wing of Pakistan’s hardline Jamaat-e-Islami party, had been celebrating “Haya (“Modesty”) Day” in response to Valentine’s Day which they oppose as un-Islamic.

Dozens of students threw rocks in the scuffle, leading to gunshots being fired by both sides and three rooms in a student dormitory being set on fire.

Happy Modesty Day!

149 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:18:40pm

re: #147 Gus

What happened with Shakira?

Oh no she died? No!

150 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:19:21pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

I agree. All balloons should be filled with nitrous oxide.

151 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:19:55pm

(just kidding, it’s one of my favorite bits)

152 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:20:22pm

re: #149 Ryan King

Oh no she died? No!

She probably just said something outrageous on twitter.

153 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:22:10pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

The Left leaners need to retaliate. They need to put the kid version of Jamaat-i-Islami down.

154 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:23:00pm

Derp.

155 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:23:12pm

It’s also another Happy Fatwa Day Salman Rushdie
The Fatwa on Salman Rushdie, Twenty-Five Years On

156 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:26:01pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

You know who was a gorgeous woman from that time? Grace Kelly. Loved her in Rear Window. Definitely my favorite of the old time actresses.

Yeah, I remember those women from the 50s in my late teens. I weighed about 95 lbs soaking wet (before I had kids and filled out a little bit), clavicle sticking out, all bony elbows and knees—absolutely hated it, although I did have breasts.

157 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:26:36pm

re: #45 Pie-onist Overlord

Here’s a Valentine from the gun-fucker to his True Love.

[Embedded content]

And shoot you if they get pissed off at you.

158 freetoken  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:28:27pm
159 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:28:36pm

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I remember those women from the 50s in my late teens. I weighed about 95 lbs soaking wet (before I had kids and filled out a little bit), clavicle sticking out, all bony elbows and knees—absolutely hated it, although I did have breasts.

That bit about the clavicle sticking out reminds me of the funniest “You know you’ve lost a lot of weight when…” episode from my life.

You know you’ve lost a lot of weight when you discover the lower end of your sternum and call the doctor.

160 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:28:43pm

re: #140 GeneJockey

We could always use hydrogen for balloons instead. What could possibly go wrong with that?
/////

You haven’t had fun until you’ve mixed hyrdogen and fluorine in a balloon.

Youtube Video

You can actually do this semi-safely in absolute darkness and then trigger the detonation with just the light flash from a camera strobe.

161 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:28:59pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Hmmm. New business opportunity: Start a dude ranch here in Alabama for coastal lefties who want to sample the ‘Real America’ experience.

I want to start a Dudebro Ranch. There’s a good joke in there somewhere, but I haven’t found it yet.

162 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:29:07pm

re: #158 freetoken

Well…

Women may prefer masculine men during ovulation

A woman who is ovulating likes to look at men with their shirts off. A woman on her menstrual likes to look at men who have been doused in gasoline and set on fire.

163 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:34:29pm

re: #158 freetoken

Well…

Women may prefer masculine men during ovulation

I read an article on that subject that said a woman might get married, then go off the pill to get pregnant, but the new hormone configuration makes her guy suddenly unappealing.

I checked my temperature every morning before getting out of bed for an ungodly number of years with a basal thermometer so I would know when I was ovulating, so I know there is truth to the idea that fluctuating hormones affect attraction, but still, one should be very careful about drawing conclusions about the effects on one’s life choices.

164 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:37:02pm

I like how people make science out of one study. Fascinating really.

165 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:37:53pm

re: #164 Gus

I like how people make science out of one study. Fascinating really.

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: I maintain that an introductory course in statistics should be required for general education or, at the very least, in order to do any form of blogging or other journalism.

166 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:38:55pm

re: #165 thedopefishlives

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: I maintain that an introductory course in statistics should be required for general education or, at the very least, in order to do any form of blogging or other journalism.

Even the wording is goofy.


Heh. UCLA.

167 Gus  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:39:27pm

What do women want? What the fuck is this a teen magazine or Cosmo?

168 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:39:42pm

re: #162 thedopefishlives

A woman who is ovulating likes to look at men with their shirts off. A woman on her menstrual likes to look at men who have been doused in gasoline and set on fire.

All I can say is that Katharine Ross is one lucky woman. : )

169 Kragar  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:43:50pm

re: #120 FemNaziBitch

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dark ages, that is …

170 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:45:50pm

re: #162 thedopefishlives

A woman who is ovulating likes to look at men with their shirts off. A woman on her menstrual likes to look at men who have been doused in gasoline and set on fire.

Make a man a fire and he’s warm for a day. Set him on fire and he’s warm for the rest of his life. - Tao of Pratchett.

171 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:46:26pm

re: #170 Romantic Heretic

Make a man a fire and he’s warm for a day. Set him on fire and he’s warm for the rest of his life. - Tao of Pratchett.

And a few minutes after.

172 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 3:53:17pm

re: #170 Romantic Heretic

Make a man a fire and he’s warm for a day. Set him on fire and he’s warm for the rest of his life. - Tao of Pratchett.

cross referencing this, i find:

“No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.”

173 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 4:05:55pm

re: #167 Gus

What do women want? What the fuck is this a teen magazine or Cosmo?

Then there was this stupid NYT Magazine cover story:

Does a More Equal Marriage Mean Less Sex?

Turns out, yes, but nobody cares. Married couples have more serotonin because they are content, and serotonin is a libido suppressant. (My analysis. The article wasn’t that smart.)

174 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 4:15:23pm

re: #161 wrenchwench

I want to start a Dudebro Ranch. There’s a good joke in there somewhere, but I haven’t found it yet.

Boneless Chicken Ranch.

175 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 4:49:37pm

re: #174 GeneJockey

Boneless Chicken Ranch.

Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

176 GeneJockey  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 5:03:29pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

FREE range, not WIDE range.

177 majii  Fri, Feb 14, 2014 5:35:08pm

I remember how many on the right vilified Rev. Jeremiah Wright when he noted in one of his sermons that a major reason some in other nations hate America is because our government has done unforgivable, and unforgettable, things to their nations and people.

I think when he said, “The chickens have come home to roost,” about our government and anti-Americanism in foreign nations also applies to the predicament the GOP politicians find themselves in at the present time. They allowed the tea partiers to take control of their party, but they never imagined that by ceding their power to them that they had stepped into a pit of rattle snakes, or that the rattlers would one day be stinging the hell out of them.


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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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4 days ago
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