1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:45:00pm

WHAT DID I JUST SEE

2 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:47:01pm

Tech note: the LGF connect Twitter app now lets you include images in your tweets.

3 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:52:24pm

Wait, that wasn’t a promo for The Voice? /

Amazing America? How about this for amazing. Just a few months after some dumbasses who were formerly with the Boy Scouts decided to knock over a famous balancing rock formation in Goblin Valley State Park (and were rightfully charged with the crime), someone decided to steal a 190 million year old dinosaur track fossil that was on one of the most famous trails in Moab, Utah. The thieves pried the fossil out of the ground.

These kinds of thefts and vandalism occur all the time at state and national parks across the country. Sometimes, the person involved is caught. But most of the time, no one is caught and we’re all poorer for the defacement and destruction.

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4 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:52:56pm

Looks like our mystery plane is now circling a point about 2/3rds the way to Dubai from Kish in Iran.

5 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:54:05pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

WHAT DID I JUST SEE

I liked it better when it was called “Thats Incredible”

6 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:54:17pm

OMG. Enough of the Patriot Porn.

We are watching a person become a cartoon character before our very eyes.

7 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:55:15pm

I’m amazed.

I’m in a maze.

In a maze I am.

Inmaze I am a.

Inmates mama.

8 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:55:28pm

re: #6 b.d.

OMG. Enough of the Patriot Porn.

And with this commercial, hundreds of exotic dancers got new intro music.

9 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:55:29pm

re: #5 Kragar

Or Ripley’s Believe It or Not.

10 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:56:25pm

American cable television content packagers are so desperate for programming that they’ll run just about anything.

11 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:56:57pm

I think she is trying for the “sexy jingoist” theme there, Charles.

Sort of the old wrap your head in the flag and fuck me for the sake of the country thing?

OTOH, if TV could be considered fish wrap, that show would qualify.

12 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:00:03pm

Oh, look at the company that is going to run Palin’s show:

InterMedia Partners

InterMedia Advisors, LLC, also known as InterMedia Advisors is a private equity investment firm focused on leveraged buyout and growth capital investments in the media sector.

The firm, which was founded in 2005 by notable private equity investor Leo Hindery, is based on the 48th floor of the Chrysler Building in Midtown Manhattan, New York City.

Among the firm’s most notable investments are Thomas Nelson, Universal Sports, Control Room, Aspire, BlackBook Media, @Home Network, InterMedia Outdoors, Sportsman Channel, Cinelatino, Soul Train Holdings,Vibe Lifestyle Network, UP, and Puerto Rican station WAPA-TV.

Tom Daschle

In 2005, Tom Daschle joined the firm as a senior adviser. It was during his time at InterMedia that Daschle reportedly had the use of a limousine and chauffeur that he did not report in his income taxes.

13 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:00:23pm

Oh, just left the loop.

14 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:00:45pm

Someone has watched too many trailers for Captain America movies.

This would be merely amusing, except that the same somebody is still a player in GOP politics.

15 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:02:23pm

re: #12 freetoken

All dots connect through the oligarchy. It is pretty much a mathematical certainty with the concentration of ownership we presently have.

16 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:05:21pm

Happy birthday Nina Simone!

Youtube Video

Later, lizards.

17 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:06:10pm
18 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:06:16pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

COMMUNIST RADICAL!!!

19 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:07:05pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA

20 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:07:46pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

21 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:08:10pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

Someone has watched too many trailers for Captain America movies.

Even the Captain America trailers aren’t all rah-rah and cloying with the patriotism.

22 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:08:33pm

Our mystery jet is now turning away from Dubai.

23 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:09:18pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

They call themselves Guardians of the Galaxy….

What a bunch of A holes.

Heh!

It looks like campy fun that wont take itself so seriously, and because it’s a more obscure comic, it’s not saddled with the kind of back story and expectations of say Iron Man or Spiderman. It’ll be interesting to see if they can pull it off - and if they can actually pull off a memorable bad guy. That’s been a tough thing for Marvel to do.

24 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:09:33pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

Happy birthday Nina Simone!

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Later, lizards.

She sure as hell one of an envelope pusher

25 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:09:59pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Happy, Happy Birthday!

Youtube Video

26 palomino  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:10:16pm

Just 5 short years ago, many on the right were calling Palin the “future of the Republican Party.” That was after she and McCain lost, but when her star was still shining bright and she was being touted by conservative “intellectuals” from Rush Limbaugh to William Kristol as the savior of the GOP.

Now she’s the future of the Sportsman Channel. You might ask, “What the hell is that? Never heard of it.” Well, its website spells things out pretty clearly. They have 4 types of programs (and I’m quoting directly from their site):

1) hunting shows
2) fishing shows
3) hunting AND fishing shows
4) shooting shows

Glad to see Sarah has found a new niche, one that most of America can easily avoid. And I’m especially glad that it involves her being no closer to the levers of political power than holding a gun and a fishing rod.

27 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:10:21pm

I know it’s just 31 seconds, but even that’s too long for me. I watched this once with the sound off.

OMG. Talk about a hackneyed pile of crap.

28 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:10:22pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Happy Birthday Philly!

Not sure if you were involved in this thread but I just got back from my local gourmet market where I purchased A HALF POUND OF LIVERWURST!

Thanks LGF.

29 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:11:16pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Happy Birthday!

30 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:11:33pm

re: #21 Lidane

Even the Captain America trailers aren’t all rah-rah and cloying with the patriotism.

They also don’t have the creepy sexual vibe of this abomination. It would be entirely consistent for the first part of that to be followed by video of a raunchy orgy using star-spangled sex toys.

31 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:12:07pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Happy Birthday Philly! let me buy you a virtual drink.

32 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:12:21pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Many happy returns.

33 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:12:22pm
34 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:12:38pm

I always go back to the story of Palin leaving her fish camp or something in Wasilla to go down to the mall in Anchorage to meet Ivana Trump who was there selling perfume or whatever.

Nutshell of her aspirations. She’s found her way thanks to the idiots of the GOP.

35 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:13:36pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

They also don’t have the creepy sexual vibe of this abomination. It would be entirely consistent for the first part of that to be followed by video of a raunchy orgy using star-spangled sex toys.

Arrrgggh—brain bleach, stat!

36 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:14:22pm

re: #23 lawhawk

They call themselves Guardians of the Galaxy….

What a bunch of A holes.

Heh!

It looks like campy fun that wont take itself so seriously, and because it’s a more obscure comic, it’s not saddled with the kind of back story and expectations of say Iron Man or Spiderman. It’ll be interesting to see if they can pull it off - and if they can actually pull off a memorable bad guy. That’s been a tough thing for Marvel to do.

Main bad guy is supposed to be Ronan the Accuser

37 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:14:36pm

Our Ukrainian Mystery plane is now under 10,000 feet.

38 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:14:43pm

re: #35 CuriousLurker

Arrrgggh—brain bleach, stat!

Pretty sure we’re going to have to fire up an industrial factory for brain bleach in order to satisfy the demands of this thread.

39 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:15:10pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

I always go back to the story of Palin leaving her fish camp or something in Wasilla to go down to the mall in Anchorage to meet Ivana Trump who was there selling perfume or whatever.

Nutshell of her aspirations. She’s found her way thanks to the idiots of the GOP.

Most of McCain’s acts I regard with the usual level of disfavor reserved for prominent members of the party I vote against.

However, the nomination of Palin as VP was and remains unforgivable, mainly for the encouragement it gives to other malignant morons in the GOP.

40 Mattand  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:16:04pm

re: #23 lawhawk

They call themselves Guardians of the Galaxy….

What a bunch of A holes.

Heh!

It looks like campy fun that wont take itself so seriously, and because it’s a more obscure comic, it’s not saddled with the kind of back story and expectations of say Iron Man or Spiderman. It’ll be interesting to see if they can pull it off - and if they can actually pull off a memorable bad guy. That’s been a tough thing for Marvel to do.

I don’t know about that. The guy who plays Loki has been a hoot. Other good villains:

Alfred Molina as Dr.Octopus
Ian McKellan and the guy from X-Men: First Class as Magneto
Kevin Bacon from X-Men: First Class
Willem DeFoe as the Green Goblin

41 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:17:40pm

re: #35 CuriousLurker

Arrrgggh—brain bleach, stat!

Well, if you left Sarah Palin out of the orgy and instead populated it with top porn ‘talent’, then you wouldn’t need brain bleach.

I still wouldn’t watch it, though.

42 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:17:42pm

It is now passing Fujairah.

43 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:17:44pm

Thank you all for those birthday wishes. Good night to my fellow Lizards.

44 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:18:52pm

It looks like it may be heading for Fujairah International Airport.

45 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:19:13pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Ooga chaka ooga ooga ooga chaka!

That movie looks completely bonkers and fun. Can’t wait. And now Marvel has annouced that they’re looking for directors and writers for a Doctor Strange film, and they’re developing a stand-alone Black Widow movie for Scarlett Johansson.

Meanwhile, DC Comics swears that a Wonder Woman movie would be too confusing for people. Pffft.

46 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:21:03pm

It is now under 2,000 feet, and over the Gulf of Oman.

47 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:21:05pm

Glad I don’t have the Sportsman Channel, I don’t have to worry about canceling it now.

48 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:22:22pm

re: #23 lawhawk

It’ll be interesting to see if they can pull it off - and if they can actually pull off a memorable bad guy. That’s been a tough thing for Marvel to do.

49 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:22:27pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

*gag* Hey easy there it’s the dinner hour out here on the west coast.
J/K

50 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:22:58pm

Sorry about my commentary on paint drying.

51 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:23:18pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

Someone has watched too many trailers for Captain America movies.

This would be merely amusing, except that the same somebody is still a player in GOP politics.

I just noticed her shirt is a S in the middle of a star.

my gawd

52 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:23:23pm

re: #44 The War TARDIS

It looks like it may be heading for Fujairah International Airport.

53 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:23:47pm

re: #50 The War TARDIS

Sorry about my commentary on paint drying.

It’ll be interesting when it finally lands and a very bewildered poultry magnate steps off in the company of a buxom blonde.

54 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:24:16pm

re: #48 Lidane

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55 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:24:47pm

re: #53 thedopefishlives

It’ll be interesting when it finally lands and a very bewildered poultry magnate steps off in the company of a buxom blonde.

My guess as well.

All the news is about the agreement. I would think someone would scoop that he took off……??

56 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:24:59pm

re: #52 NJDhockeyfan

The plane is now down to 185 kts.

57 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:26:35pm

re: #56 The War TARDIS

The plane is now down to 185 kts.

Its definitely landing

58 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:26:47pm

Landing at Fujairah International Airport

59 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:27:02pm

re: #42 The War TARDIS

It is now passing Fujairah.

It may be landing at a private air field. Descending rapidly.

60 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:27:36pm

re: #59 Justanotherhuman

It may be landing at a private air field. Descending rapidly.

Its landed

61 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:28:32pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

Now, time to find out who our mystery passenger is.

62 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:28:48pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

Its landed

Who’s supposed to be on this plane anyhow?

63 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:29:15pm

Are they just getting gas or did they find a friend?

64 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:29:49pm

New comments not showing the count anymore?

I reloaded the page already.

65 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:30:04pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

Its landed

Yes, looks like it’s near Muscat.

66 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:31:26pm

re: #65 Justanotherhuman

Fujairah.

A backwater Emirate in the UAE. Relatively small, and not very wealthy.

67 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:31:46pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Who’s supposed to be on this plane anyhow?

If Yanukovych isn’t in there someone else is in for a big surprise when the door opens.

68 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:31:49pm

re: #54 Kragar

Let’s be fair, though. Red Skull is a pretty lame villain overall. Unless you want to do a heavy-handed Nazi story, of course. That worked for the first Captain America film since it took place during WW2. Outside of that, I don’t see him as all that compelling.

Loki, OTOH, was a gleeful kind of villain. He’s all about chaos and is always plotting and scheming, and he enjoys it. He’s way more fun.

69 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:31:54pm

Arizona’s Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would allow business owners, as long as they assert their religious beliefs, to deny service to gay and lesbian customers.

cnn.com

70 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:31:58pm

re: #64 Kragar

New comments not showing the count anymore?

I reloaded the page already.

Firefox. You probably need to quit and re-launch Firefox. It tends to get verklempt.

71 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:33:03pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

The happiest of birthdays to you and Andres Segovia and a very non-happy birthday to Mugabe too.

72 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:34:05pm

Anyone else having problems with Chrome where all open tabs will go blank, restarting app clears it up?

73 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:34:21pm

re: #69 dog philosopher

Arizona’s Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would allow business owners, as long as they assert their religious beliefs, to deny service to gay and lesbian customers.

cnn.com

The party of personal freedom passing bills that restrict freedom.

Seems legit.

75 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:37:35pm

re: #73 Lidane

The party of personal freedom passing bills that restrict freedom.

Seems legit.

I still like the comment from an earlier thread on this subject : “It’s a dry hate”.

76 Chrysicat  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:38:44pm
77 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:39:53pm

re: #76 Chrysicat

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Because they can.

78 Kragar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:40:02pm

re: #68 Lidane

Let’s be fair, though. Red Skull is a pretty lame villain overall. Unless you want to do a heavy-handed Nazi story, of course. That worked for the first Captain America film since it took place during WW2. Outside of that, I don’t see him as all that compelling.

Loki, OTOH, was a gleeful kind of villain. He’s all about chaos and is always plotting and scheming, and he enjoys it. He’s way more fun.

Personally, I would have gone with Ghost for the 2nd Iron Man movie. A small time inventor/industrial spy who had developed stealth and phase technology. Would have been much better than Whiplash.

79 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:41:57pm

Which reminds me - I don’t do in depth Pages like that for some reason.

I think in the big picture the know-nothing part of our society, and it is not small, will just never care.

OTOH, a great number of people who give lip service to concern about some of these really-big-picture issues are not really able to come to terms with why doing anything, that will have a major effect, is probably beyond their control, unless they are willing to do something much more radical then they have previously considered.

80 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:42:53pm

The Art Inspired by Ukraine’s Euromaidan

Amid the rubble and smoke-filled streets of Kiev, Ukraine’s artists have been hard at work, endeavoring to capture this dramatic moment in their country’s history. Rather than staying in the studio, artists have brought their easels, paintbrushes, and canvases to the streets and even onto the barricades. Many of them protesters themselves, they have also decorated their helmets and shields. Here is a selection of their work.

More at the link

81 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:44:47pm

Whoa! An ultimatum.

Oh, hit the “CC” for English subtitles.

82 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:48:27pm

I don’t know if this is 100% accurate, as there are conflicting reports as to exactly where Yanukovych is, but:

83 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:48:47pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Happy Birthday. Can you play blues?

84 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:49:38pm

re: #69 dog philosopher

Arizona’s Legislature has passed a controversial bill that would allow business owners, as long as they assert their religious beliefs, to deny service to gay and lesbian customers.

cnn.com

Has Brewer signed it? Because

85 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:49:59pm
86 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:50:14pm

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know if this is 100% accurate, as there are conflicting reports as to exactly where Yanukovych is, but:

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Well, it’s not the “presidential plane” is it? Doesn’t it belong to that oligarch?

Anyway, if he’s on it, can the Ukrainian people take that as his resignation?
: )

87 calochortus  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:50:30pm

re: #74 freetoken

We’re all Nazis now:

Climate Change Denier Roy Spencer Says People Who Use Word ‘Denier’ Are ‘Global Warming Nazis’

I didn’t understand this when I saw it earlier. If you deny that the climate is changing, why would you mind being called a climate change denier? I wouldn’t be offended by being called a flat-earth denier, or whatever.

Oh. He just wants to call people he doesn’t like and doesn’t have much of an argument against Nazis. Well, carry on then.

88 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:50:47pm

re: #81 Justanotherhuman

Whoa! An ultimatum.

[Embedded content]

No English subtitles. What’s the ultimatum?

89 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:51:18pm

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

No English subtitles. What’s the ultimatum?

Hit “CC” and the titles will pop up.

90 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:51:44pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

I still like the comment from an earlier thread on this subject : “It’s a dry hate”.

It’s a hashtag

91 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:52:01pm

re: #89 Justanotherhuman

Hit “CC” and the titles will pop up.

Basically, this young man is saying that Yanuk has until 10 am tomorrow to resign or else all hell will break loose, among other things.

92 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:52:07pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

It is also Philly Pretzel’s birthday. :)

Happy birthday! Mine is in a couple weeks :)

93 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:52:43pm

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

No English subtitles. What’s the ultimatum?

Click on the CC button. The ultimatum is GTFO, by tomorrow 10am.

94 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:52:55pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

Well, it’s not the “presidential plane” is it? Doesn’t it belong to that oligarch?

Anyway, if he’s on it, can the Ukrainian people take that as his resignation?
: )

Allegedly, the plane belongs to a poultry oligarch. That being said, yeah, if he’s taken off to the UAE, I’d consider that a de facto resignation. Like I said, there’s conflicting reports as to where he is.

95 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:53:02pm

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

No English subtitles. What’s the ultimatum?

Woops! #91 was for you…

96 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:54:12pm

re: #89 Justanotherhuman

Hit “CC” and the titles will pop up.

I’ll watch it again.
He’s fired up.

97 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:55:05pm

re: #94 Dr Lizardo

Allegedly, the plane belongs to a poultry oligarch. That being said, yeah, if he’s taken off to the UAE, I’d consider that a de facto resignation. Like I said, there’s conflicting reports as to where he is.

I think the official line is still that he’s retired to Kharkov, but if so nobody’s seen hide nor hair of him.

98 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:56:02pm

200 Hungarian Red Cross volunteers show their support for Olesya, the volunteer medic that was shot in the neck yesterday. The last tweet that she made was “I am dying”. Olesya is now in the hospital under intensive care.

facebook.com

99 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:56:53pm

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

I’ll watch it again.
He’s fired up.

Yes, and grief-stricken, you can tell in his voice. He’s very articulate, though.

100 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:57:53pm

re: #81 Justanotherhuman

Whoa! An ultimatum.

[Embedded content]

That was awesome! He’s got me ready to fly out there!

101 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:57:56pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

Yes…..no photos or video of him in Kharkiv have surfaced thus far, and he would’ve arrived in Kharkiv about 4 or 5 hours ago or so.

102 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:58:32pm

OT, but sheesh. WTF? I see this, so I go to look at the article because it’s not the sort of thing the Smithsonian usually tweets:

WTF 1.) Who? I’d never even heard of the GAIAE until I read the article. It doesn’t speak for all 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide—something which isn’t clear from the article—it’s more along the lines of “Oh, look at the silly shit those backwards Muslims are saying (again).”

WTF 2.) Why are they even issuing this kind of fatwa? I mean, seriously? The UAE, home to some of the most ostentatious displays of wealth in the Muslim world? How about some fatwas telling those rich Muslims who can afford this vanity trip that they and the rest of the world would be better served if they instead used their money to benefit the poor? How about some fatwas about the dangers of of materialism & ostentation versus the rewards of humility & giving extra charity?

WTF 3.) Why is the Smithsonian tweeting this type of click-bait crap? Are they headed down the same road as the Discovery and History channels?

WTF 4.) I guess the entire project is bullshit science-as-reality-tv anway:

Over 200,000 people from around the world applied to be part of Mars One. The project is a private venture that hopes to eventually establish a human outpost on the red planet. The one catch: the people sent to the red planet don’t have a way back. Even in the best-case scenario, the people who volunteer will have no way to back out or go home. The thousands of people who have signed up seem ok with that risk, for the sake of exploration.

Mars One has already started the selection process for astronauts, with plans to turn both the selection process and mission into a “media spectacle” with a reality show. Think Big Brother…in space. The company responded to reports of the fatwa with a statement:

[…]

Mars One respectfully requests GAIAE to cancel the Fatwa and make the greatest Rihla, or journey, of all times open for Muslims too. They can be the first Muslims to witness the signs of God’s creation in heaven, drawing upon the rich culture of travel and exploration of early Islam.

smithsonianmag.com

Really? They can be the “first Muslims to witness the signs of God’s creation in heaven”? Yeah, okay, I guess this isn’t about science, huh? Or maybe they think they’re talking (down) to addle-brained children?

I just… excuse me while I go find a barf bag. Sorry for the long, OT ranty comment—I probably should’ve just made it a Page, but… *sigh*

Y’know, I loved the internet a couple of hours ago after my Wikiwalk, but now I hate it again. //

103 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:59:23pm

Hey Charles, an observation. Is this the shortest comment off subject on Sister Sarah ever?

Maybe she’s reached the meh stage? Dog can only hope.

104 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 6:59:48pm

re: #94 Dr Lizardo

Allegedly, the plane belongs to a poultry oligarch. That being said, yeah, if he’s taken off to the UAE, I’d consider that a de facto resignation. Like I said, there’s conflicting reports as to where he is.

Walking the Arabian Trail.

105 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:00:36pm

re: #99 Justanotherhuman

Yes, and grief-stricken, you can tell in his voice. He’s very articulate, though.

Seeing those people passing that casket around is heartbreaking. I feel for those people. I don’t remember seeing anything like this since The Soviet Union and East Germany fell.

106 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:00:37pm

re: #94 Dr Lizardo

Allegedly, the plane belongs to a poultry oligarch. That being said, yeah, if he’s taken off to the UAE, I’d consider that a de facto resignation. Like I said, there’s conflicting reports as to where he is.

Poultry Oligarch is a horrible prestige class. Riot Cleric gets all the chicks.

107 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:01:17pm

re: #102 CuriousLurker

Cut and paste just what you typed to the Smithsonian.

OR I WILL.

108 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:04:14pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

Poultry Oligarch is a horrible prestige class. Riot Cleric gets all the chicks.

Riot Cleric is someone with Square Cred.

109 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:06:46pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Riot Cleric is someone with Square Cred.

He’s definitely Streets Ahead.

110 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:06:49pm

re: #102 CuriousLurker

>WTF 3.) Why is the Smithsonian tweeting this type of click-bait crap? Are they headed down the same road as Discovery and the History Channel?

Not unlike National Geographic, who is now in bed with Murdoch, various Smithsonian-tied efforts are in bed with the usual suspect of billionaires. In the case of Smithsonian, that includes the Kochs.

So yes, the idea is to bring all of society down to the level of British tabloids.

111 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:08:46pm

This is a must-see.

ukrstream.tv

112 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:09:37pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

He’s definitely Streets Ahead.

Urban Dictionary says I’m Streets Behind.

113 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:10:45pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

Hey Charles, an observation. Is this the shortest comment off subject on Sister Sarah ever?

Maybe she’s reached the meh stage? Dog can only hope.

Not even the die hardiest of the wingnuts believes that Sarah will emerge from the infomercial universe to make a run at the 2016 nomination anymore. I think she is dropping the usual hints but nobody is even bothering to return her calls, she’s the female Trump.

114 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:11:04pm

Part of me wonders if Maidan wasn’t cooked up by the International Press Photographers Association as a conspiracy to produce amazing images.

115 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:11:11pm


If Yanukovych doesn’t pop his ugly head out within the next few hours from Fujairah or Ukraine or wherever he is all hell is going to break loose. That’s frightening.

116 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:12:14pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

Cut and paste just what you typed to the Smithsonian.

OR I WILL.

117 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:12:37pm

re: #111 Justanotherhuman

This is a must-see.

ukrstream.tv

Riot Cleric is among the priests shown there.

118 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:12:57pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]


If Yanukovych doesn’t pop his ugly head out within the next few hours from Fujairah or Ukraine or wherever he is all hell is going to break loose. That’s frightening.

You should watch the counter-attack from yesterday I linked above. Those guys are tough and fearless.

ukrstream.tv

119 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:13:24pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]


If Yanukovych doesn’t pop his ugly head out within the next few hours from Fujairah or Ukraine or wherever he is all hell is going to break loose. That’s frightening.

Whether he’s in Kharkiv or UAE, he should at least have the common sense to pop up and say something.

120 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:13:55pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]


If Yanukovych doesn’t pop his ugly head out within the next few hours from Fujairah or Ukraine or wherever he is all hell is going to break loose. That’s frightening.

I like how they’ve been throwing molotov fucking cocktails at each other for weeks, but now people are all like, things could get bad.

121 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:14:18pm

re: #111 Justanotherhuman

This is a must-see.

ukrstream.tv

The cameraman is one brave SOB.

122 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:15:58pm

re: #116 CuriousLurker

That GAIAE made me first think, “Who dafuq is this? Never heard of ‘em.” Most likely, it’s a small - or at least obscure - bunch that figured out a way to get themselves some press.

123 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:16:56pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

I like how they’ve been throwing molotov fucking cocktails at each other for weeks, but now people are all like, things could get bad.

Its mostly taken place in Kiev. I think this will set off a lot more than that all over the country.

124 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:18:40pm

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan

Its mostly taken place in Kiev. I think this will set off a lot more than that all over the country.

And they will be more prepared this time—not quite the kitchen sink army they have been for the last battles.

125 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:19:24pm

re: #110 freetoken

Not unlike National Geographic, who is now in bed with Murdoch, various Smithsonian-tied efforts are in bed with the usual suspect of billionaires. In the case of Smithsonian, that includes the Kochs.

So yes, the idea is to bring all of society down to the level of British tabloids.

And we’re all what? What happened? $$ Rules again.

126 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:20:00pm
127 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:25:50pm

re: #126 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Youtube Video

128 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:26:05pm

re: #111 Justanotherhuman

This is a must-see.

ukrstream.tv

Here’s a different angle of the same location from about 12:00 in your video.

Liveleak Video

129 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:29:20pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

And we’re all what?

You are a consumer.

You are to use a credit card.


Your primary existential problem is your credit score.


Your primary responsibility is to protect your masters owners employers from the problems of your family, which are only the responsibility of your family and no one else.

Do not cause problems.

Buy an automobile every 7.3 years.

Buy a house every 9.9 years.

Do not get sick over the age of 50, and if you do be sure you’ve paid up a life insurance policy.

Do not grow your own food. Do not prepare your own food, unless you would like to buy $500 worth of professional knives and a full GE Monogram kitchen.

Be sure to join at least two frequent-flyer programs.

Do not use a train or bus system. These are evil.

130 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:29:38pm

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Here’s a different angle of the same location from about 12:00 in your video.

[Embedded content]

The guy in woodland camo is holding with a freaking baseball bat.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:30:14pm

Heh.


What’s Putin going to do now that his puppet flew the coop?

132 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:30:57pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

The cameraman is one brave SOB.

I find it really irritating when people criticize photojournalists for taking pictures in the middle of a crisis. “Oh, you stood there with a camera while _____ was going on and you didn’t bother to help,” etc. A well-known example is Kevin Carter, who received as much harsh criticism as glowing acclaim for this picture.

Leaving aside the fact that a photograph depicts something that was happening for about 1/500th of a second, I think photography (both video and still) is every bit as important for comprehending the news as is text. One can listen to a news anchor drone on about “150 people killed” without being fazed, but a photo of ruined corpses stacked like firewood tends to get your attention.

133 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:31:24pm

re: #111 Justanotherhuman

This is a must-see.

ukrstream.tv

Watching that video makes me think that Yanukovych ordered a massacre but not enough troops obeyed.

134 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:33:04pm

Apparently AZ now not only doesn’t want brown people, they don’t want teh ghey also:

Business leaders: SB1062 could damage Arizona for years to come

[…]

SB1062 would provide legal protection to people or companies that face discrimination lawsuits if they are acting upon their “sincerely held” religious beliefs. For example, in a widely cited case, it would provide legal immunity to a business that refused to provide services for a gay wedding if same-sex marriage violated their religious beliefs.


[…]

135 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:33:38pm

re: #129 freetoken

Coming soon to a “job market” near you:

Youtube Video

136 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:34:25pm

LARP on a scale almost unimaginable.

I like this guy a lot because he’s like, “Fuck it, I’m only a little bit on fire.”

137 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:35:07pm

re: #129 freetoken

You are a consumer.

You are to use a credit card.

Your primary existential problem is your credit score.

Your primary responsibility is to protect your masters owners employers from the problems of your family, which are only the responsibility of your family and no one else.

Do not cause problems.

Buy an automobile every 7.3 years.

Buy a house every 9.9 years.

Do not get sick over the age of 50, and if you do be sure you’ve paid up a life insurance policy.

Do not grow your own food. Do not prepare your own food, unless you would like to buy $500 worth of professional knives and a full GE Monogram kitchen.

Be sure to join at least two frequent-flyer programs.

Do not use a train or bus system. These are evil.

Ah Sage, again I see/think.

Add in SD traffic survival.

138 freetoken  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:35:15pm

re: #135 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I love the “9 9 9”…

139 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:35:40pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

The guy in woodland camo is holding with a freaking baseball bat.

That’s what gets me about these images, the optimism.

140 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:37:37pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

That’s what gets me about these images, the optimism.

Some of it is merciful ignorance—the guy at the bridge stopping rifle fire with a plywood shield.

141 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:39:15pm

If our kids learn from these, the next Officer Pepperspray is going to have a very bad summer.

142 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:39:59pm
143 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:43:31pm

Speaking of Putin, NPR tweeted this around midnight. I don’t know how accurate it is since the guy they’re quoting is from the AEI, but it was interesting:

The World According To Vladimir Putin

The worldview of Russian President Vladimir Putin could be summed up along these lines:

Moscow’s precipitous decline in global influence since the Soviet breakup must be reversed. Russia must be respected as the dominant power in former Soviet republics like Ukraine. Russia is entitled to a strong voice in the Middle East based on longstanding ties to Syria and other Arab states. In the rest of the world, Russia will be a counterweight to the U.S. and the West, which meddles in far too many places.

These positions have put Putin in conflict with the U.S. in more global hot spots than any other world leader. He revels in this role, and President Obama’s attempt to reset relations with Russia appears to have been for naught.

“Putin sees influence as a zero-sum game. If Russia has influence, then the U.S. doesn’t,” said Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute and author of a new book, Dancing with the Devil: The Perils of Engaging Rogue Regimes.

“Putin is not going to make any of the value judgments that Americans often make,” he added. “The United States sees its allies as partners, but Putin and many Russians see partners as client states.”

Putin has gone to battle with the West on multiple fronts, and here’s a scorecard on the status of those showdowns. […]

npr.org

144 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:48:40pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

If our kids learn from these, the next Officer Pepperspray is going to have a very bad summer.

American’s have always been very able to do that. They haven’t been pushed to where they want to in a very long time. But what Sam Houston said about the North at the start of the Civil War is applicable to all America these days: “But when they begin to move in a given direction, they move with the steady momentum and perseverance of a mighty avalanche.”

These days it’s been a pretty peaceful avalanche. But historically it hasn’t always been so peaceful and no one knows what tomorrow will bring.

145 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:50:19pm

re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis

Like to think they’re still capable of more than “Days of Snit”.

146 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:53:07pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

If our kids learn from these, the next Officer Pepperspray is going to have a very bad summer.

It’s probably no accident that we have the most bread and circuses on the planet.

147 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:53:20pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

Speaking of Putin, NPR tweeted this around midnight. I don’t know how accurate it is since the guy they’re quoting is from the AEI, but it was interesting:

“Putin sees influence as a zero-sum game. If Russia has influence, then the U.S. doesn’t,” said Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute and author of a new book, Dancing with the Devil: The Perils of Engaging Rogue Regimes.

“Putin is not going to make any of the value judgments that Americans often make,” he added. “The United States sees its allies as partners, but Putin and many Russians see partners as client states.”

That’s the Soviet Union in a nutshell. The USSR was tried and failed. It’s too soon to try that shit again, there are too many people still alive that remember what it was like to live in tyranny. They wont let it happen again.

148 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:53:40pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

Like to think they’re still capable of more than “Days of Snit”.

Even snits might finally get upset

149 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:56:52pm

re: #147 NJDhockeyfan

That’s the Soviet Union in a nutshell. The USSR was tried and failed. It’s too soon to try that shit again, there are too many people still alive that remember what it was like to live in tyranny. They wont let it happen again.

I honestly don’t know about that; there’s also enough Russians who remember the Soviet days (or were told about them in ebullient, glowing praise) who wouldn’t mind going back to the Bad Ol’ Days of the USSR.

150 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:58:43pm

re: #146 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

It’s probably no accident that we have the most bread and circuses on the planet.

True, and an electoral system that works. For now.

151 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:02:14pm

Why did that stretcher bearer walk around in front of the shields like that? The casualty on the ground was behind them but instead he goes around in front with his big orange stretcher.

152 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:07:52pm

This video is right on the front lines.

Liveleak Video

153 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:09:29pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Why did that stretcher bearer walk around in front of the shields like that? The casualty on the ground was behind them but instead he goes around in front with his big orange stretcher.

You can see the incident from a different angle at #111. There’s another large barrier in front of the tree so the medic, who just showed up, doesn’t know what they guys with the shields know. Incoming fire was probably from the upper floors of one of the large buildings down the street. Medic probably assumed ground level fire.

154 Good Morning  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:11:27pm

Her show, “Amazing America,” premieres on the outdoors-oriented network in April, and will profile personalities who like hunting, fishing, and hetrosexual sex.

Although many people don’t associate her with “that granola lifestyle,” Palin said that she and her family eat organic food whenever they can even if she has to shoot it herself.

From The Detroit News: detroitnews.com

155 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:11:34pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

It kind of looks like the shield men told him that the guy in back was dead and go around front, but were unwilling to move out in front of the tree and protect him and the guy they wanted evacced. You can see him react to being shot at 1:40.

Say what you will about these guys, they may have balls but the lack of any real training is obvious.

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Watching that video makes me think that Yanukovych ordered a massacre but not enough troops obeyed.

The Army is sitting this one out and some police are defecting. It’s actually kind of amazing that the protesters have been able to stand up to the Berkut this long.

156 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:15:01pm

re: #148 Feline Fearless Leader

Even snits might finally get upset

I preferred Awful Green Things From Outer Space.

Image: awful-green-things-from-outer-space-9308-p.jpg

157 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:16:22pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

If our kids learn from these, the next Officer Pepperspray is going to have a very bad summer.

Well, yes and no. The situation in Ukraine is very different and most people realize that on some level. It seems most protesters believe they’re part of a movement that’s going to sweep the country and topple the establishment. It’s mostly a fantasy and they realize. There are very few people who think their actions are going to spark a wider revolution. We saw that with the OWS protesters who tried to blow up that bridge. Or the ones in Chicago who wanted to burn some pigs and firebomb Obama’s campaign office. Or the Glenn Beck fan who was caught on his way to shoot up Tides Foundation offices. Or the Gay rights guy who wanted to kill conservative Christians in DC with Chick fil A sandwiches. Timothy McVey thought he was going to spark a revolution.
The situation here is different that Cairo or Ukraine. Emulating those techniques here would be a very stupid mistake.

158 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:17:57pm

Anyway, once the Berkut started sniping with centerfire rifles the whole idea of shields as any kind of a strategic asset goes right out the window. They aren’t cover, they aren’t even concealment, the shooter knows exactly where the person is behind them.

They gotta come up with a new plan.

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:19:22pm

re: #156 Romantic Heretic

I preferred Awful Green Things From Outer Space.

Image: awful-green-things-from-outer-space-9308-p.jpg

Awful Green Things was reprinted a few years back and I bought it for my niece as a Christmas gift.

160 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:22:27pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Well, yes and no. The situation in Ukraine is very different and most people realize that on some level. It seems most protesters believe they’re part of a movement that’s going to sweep the country and topple the establishment. It’s mostly a fantasy and they realize. There are very few people who think their actions are going to spark a wider revolution. We saw that with the OWS protesters who tried to blow up that bridge. Or the ones in Chicago who wanted to burn some pigs and firebomb Obama’s campaign office. Or the Glenn Beck fan who was caught on his way to shoot up Tides Foundation offices. Or the Gay rights guy who wanted to kill conservative Christians in DC with Chick fil A sandwiches. Timothy McVey thought he was going to spark a revolution.
The situation here is different that Cairo or Ukraine. Emulating those techniques here would be a very stupid mistake.

Letting our governmental structures and the wellbeing of our people deteriorate towards third-world levels would be a complementary mistake.

161 Ming  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:15:53pm

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Wow. It was quite few years ago that NATO was greatly expanded to accommodate some Eastern European countries. At the time, I didn’t appreciate how important that was, e.g. giving Poland that NATO umbrella. I hope Ukraine survives as a free country, and ultimately joins the European Union.

162 steve_davis  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:36:37am

re: #72 Amory Blaine

Anyone else having problems with Chrome where all open tabs will go blank, restarting app clears it up?

the best thing I’ve ever done with my laptop was installing something free called slimdrivers. According to Windows, all my drivers were up to date. According to slim drivers, my constantly crashing experience with Youtube was probably because my “up to date” Radeon driver was about 3 years out of date from the newest one (which was still last updated in something like 2011). And there were 28 additional driver updates available.


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