Bride Plans to Marry Her Bicycle

The newlyweds plan to depart from northern California and ride south.
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Everything the wingnuts feared would happen as a result of gay marriage is now coming true.

After 15 years together, Lisa Nelson has decided to marry Steel Spokes, her beloved bicycle. The next day, the Spokes shall depart on a six-month bicycle touring honeymoon. On March 2, 2014, the unusual couple will tie the knot in Pacifica, just South of San Francisco. The Hawaiian themed affair will have the bridesmaids dressed in hula attire, complete with a flower girl, and a ring-bearing pooch (also appropriately dressed). The wedding party and assorted guests will be on bicycle. The entourage plans to cycle along the ocean to the old Pacifica Courthouse for the marriage ceremony. A festive luau reception shall follow.

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Lisa Nelson with her groom, Steel.

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1 John Vreeland  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:50:17pm

I can’t tell from the picture, but if it’s a girl’s bike then I don’t see a problem.

2 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:16:33pm

Different spokes for different folks.

3 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:20:16pm

If it is a male bicycle then there is no problem at all.

Can imagine the awkwardness if their child showed up at the first day of school and didn’t know which direction to kick the kick stand towards?

btw, this has to fit in:

Youtube Video

4 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:20:45pm

re: #2 Ryan King

Different spokes for different folks.

What’ you talkin about Willis?

5 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:21:00pm

Youtube Video

6 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:21:12pm

re: #3 b.d.

DAMN YOU!

7 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:22:54pm

re: #5 Ryan King

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beat ya Ryan King

8 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:24:12pm

I’m fairly certain baby bicycles wouldn’t be up screaming at all hours of the night, like my poor friend’s kid. (They’re finally working on sleep training. He’s 16 months? And still doesn’t sleep through the night.)

9 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:25:07pm

The penny-farthings and velocipedes are going to be absolutely livid over this non-traditional rider-conveyance relationship.

10 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:25:20pm

Of course, us heathen heretic godless childfree couples don’t have to worry about that. With our non-useful marriages and all.

11 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:25:56pm

re: #5 Ryan King

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EVEN QUEEN RECOGNIZED THE EVILS OF HOMOSEXUALITY WITH HOMOSEXUALITY AND BICYCLES……………..WAIT…………..WHAT??!?!?!??

12 Ming  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:26:08pm

Now wait a minute. Let’s think this through, like rational theologians. Was the person / bicycle wedding caused by the legalization of same-sex marriage? Or was it caused by inadequate fidelity to the ten commandments? Discuss.

13 Mattand  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:27:59pm

So if she’s Mormon, does she marry a tandem bike?

14 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:28:54pm

re: #13 Mattand

So if she’s Mormon, does she marry a tandem bike?

Hah, it depends. Is this a male or female bike?

You can have multiple wives, not multiple husbands, after all.

15 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:29:00pm

re: #13 Mattand

So if she’s Mormon, does she marry a tandem bike?

That’s Raleigh none of our business.

16 Ming  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:29:06pm

re: #8 klys

I’m fairly certain baby bicycles wouldn’t be up screaming at all hours of the night, like my poor friend’s kid. (They’re finally working on sleep training. He’s 16 months? And still doesn’t sleep through the night.)

You know what they say, the squeaky wheel gets oiled the most!

17 Bear  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:29:08pm

Will the ceremony close with “Bike and Wife”?

18 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:29:16pm

I hear that those 10 speeds are sluts.

19 palomino  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:30:19pm

People marrying bikes? Threatens all civilization.

Schwinn will all this madness end?

20 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:30:22pm

re: #16 Ming

You know what they say, the squeaky wheel gets oiled the most!

Haha, being without a small being in my life besides cats (which can be shut out/left behind while traveling without Child Services being involved), my best reassurance for her was, “he should stop doing it at some point, right? Like by age 11?”

21 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:30:35pm

re: #12 Ming

Now wait a minute. Let’s think this through, like rational theologians. Was the person / bicycle wedding caused by the legalization of same-sex marriage? Or was it caused by inadequate fidelity to the ten commandments? Discuss.

The answer is always sluts.

Sluts.

22 Kilroy01  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:30:37pm

I now pronounce you Wife and Bike.
You may sniff the seat..

23 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:31:14pm

Man, look at the tread on those tires.

24 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:31:17pm

I don’t know enough biking stuff to join in on the fun puns. :(

25 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:31:54pm

A bicycle? That’s nothing, she should try roller coasters.

Woman getting married to fairground ride

Amy Wolfe, a US church organist who claims to have objectum sexuality, a condition that makes sufferers attracted to inanimate objects, plans to marry a magic carpet fairground ride.

26 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:33:33pm

re: #25 NJDhockeyfan

A bicycle? That’s nothing, she should try roller coasters.

Woman getting married to fairground ride

She could make a go of it if she would settle down to play the Wurlitzer on a carousel.

27 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:35:36pm

They were living in Schwinn

28 uncah91  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:36:10pm

re: #24 klys

I don’t know enough biking stuff to join in on the fun puns. :(

But we’re just getting geared up! You’ll think of something to keep us rolling along.

29 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:36:39pm

Then need to start a 401,000k plan now

30 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:37:31pm

Congrats to the newlyspeds

31 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:38:01pm

re: #24 klys

I don’t know enough biking stuff to join in on the fun puns. :(

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT IT IS ANOTHER BI-SOMETHING MARRIAGE!!!!!!

32 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:38:39pm

re: #24 klys

I don’t know enough biking stuff to join in on the fun puns. :(

If they didn’t find my penny farthing reference funny, nothing is going to make them laughbecause they are all heathen bastards and I will set this place on fire MY GOD what kind of philistines do you have to be to not appreciate the subtle anthropomorphic humor of an outdated bicycle from the Victorian Age having prudish morals. I WILL CRUSH YOU ALL WITH MY FURY right after I get some gasoline and figured out how to upload it.

33 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:38:45pm

hats off to their bravery in a bi-racial marriage

34 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:39:06pm

re: #31 b.d.

[Iwingnut] ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT IT IS ANOTHER BI-SOMETHING MARRIAGE!!!!!! [/wingnut]

Hey, again? WTF? SERIOUSLY?

35 uncah91  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:39:23pm
I can’t tell from the picture, but if it’s a girl’s bike then I don’t see a problem.

She’s marrying a boy. She was only ever bike-urious.

36 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:39:32pm

As long as one of them wasn’t bespoken for.

37 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:40:42pm

re: #34 Ryan King

extra character

38 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:40:46pm

Because I don’t want to miss a punny moment, you can all accompany me to the kitchen while I prep dinner.

Late.

39 uncah91  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:41:35pm

Maybe the whole thing is really just a framing device.

40 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:41:50pm

re: #34 Ryan King

Hey, again? WTF? SERIOUSLY?

BI-CYCLE—— SEE WHAT THIS WORLD IS COMING TOO!!?!?!!?!

41 Kilroy01  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:41:50pm

The honeymoon is a Tour de France

42 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:42:10pm

I’m going to be first and marry chardonnay.

ALL OF IT.

43 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:42:46pm

re: #42 Ryan King

I’m going to be first and marry chardonnay.

ALL OF IT.

Dibs on gin.

As soon as the husband and I can figure out where CA stands on multiples.

44 uncah91  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:43:45pm

re: #41 Kilroy01

The honeymoon is a Tour de France

She is hoping it won’t just be one of the sprint stages.

45 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:43:51pm

DON’T BIKE TREAD ON ME!!!!

46 uncah91  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:45:14pm

I think the wheels have come off this thread. It’s gotten a little pedestrian.

47 b.d.  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:45:16pm

And she rode his ass all through the Honeymoon.

48 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:45:52pm

re: #46 uncah91

I think the wheels have come off this thread. It’s gotten a little pedestrian.

Nooooooooo, not a hit and run…

49 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:47:02pm

re: #43 klys

Dibs on gin.

As soon as the husband and I can figure out where CA stands on multiples.

I’m marrying the Oxford comma.

(Also, burning down LGF has proved to be fruitless. Only slightly less a fiasco than my attempt to fax a pork chop.)

50 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:47:54pm

It’s time for ocular sulfuric acid! I am chopping an onion.

51 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:49:59pm

I hope the groom doesn’t drink too much and get a flat tire on the wedding night.

52 sagehen  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:52:18pm

Is it only Brits who have the expression “she’s the town bicycle”?

53 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:52:42pm

So, I do now have some plans for the future.

I will be going for the Alternative route to becoming a teacher in Oklahoma. The whole process will take 3-4 years, meaning I stay here for that time.

After that, I will likely want to move to Pittsburgh. It’s a good city. Not only that, but is it centrally located among the large concentrations of Muslims in NYC, New Jersey, Virginia, Michigan, and Illinois.

I am hoping to find someone in the community here in that time. With most of my friends now being Pakistani, and doing their best to take care of my emotional health, I am largely looking in that community.

Not looking for other converts out of some level of paranoia, and British Muslims are written off too.

54 darthstar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:53:19pm

I’m proud to say this will be taking place about 10 miles from my home. Yeah, it’s corny…but it’s just a way of getting under the religious right’s skin (which is thin enough as it is).

55 Kilroy01  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:54:10pm

Maybe it will be an open marriage.


You know.. A Ride Share

56 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:56:59pm

re: #53 The War TARDIS

Be sure you check what the requirements are in PA, if you plan to move that direction after you are done, but I applaud wanting to become a teacher. Several of my friends have investigated the alternate route and a few have chosen to pursue it and are very happy.

As for the rest, well, if you concentrate on making yourself the best person you can be, then I suspect it will fall into place. Life has a habit of surprising you.

57 Ryan King  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:57:14pm

That Huffy finally settled down.

58 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:00:17pm

So how stupidly adult is this: my husband agrees we can probably get a new fridge. Recommendations, Lizards? I want French doors with two drawers on bottom for the freezer, he wants not-stainless-steel.

59 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:01:19pm

re: #57 Ryan King

It seems to have been quite a Trek for the marriage.

60 blueraven  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:03:05pm

Well

Some say the Heart is Just like a Wheel

Youtube Video

61 darthstar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:06:06pm

Speaking of cycling, I got my first flat tire riding my road bike last weekend. Talk about scary! I haven’t had a flat tire in close to 40 years. For a moment, I wondered what the proper way to handle the situation was. Do I call AAA? It’s not a car! Do I call a cab and have them come pick me and my bicycle up and drive us home? People change their own bike flats all the time! So I did…I took the back tire off (including getting it off the chain and that expando hingy thing that doesn’t make any sense, and then took out the little plastic tire-changing tool (three plastic sticks…didn’t make any sense…but I went with it.) Soon I realized that the plastic sticks had hooked ends for a reason, and as I pried the tire up over the edge of the rim, I was able (with the hooked ends) to secure the sticks to the spokes on the wheel. This gave me enough latitude to remove the rest of the tire…or at least half of it. From there, it was just a matter of pulling out the old tube, and unfolding the new one to put inside the tire.

Then came the exciting part…how to get the air (which was outside all around me) into the tire with enough force to inflate it? I didn’t have a pump…but I did have this handy little CO2 cartridge with a screw on nipple. I put it together, placed it over the tire nib, and…nothing. I thought, maybe I did something wrong? So I started to unscrew the CO2 cartridge when suddenly, WHOOSH! It filled the tire completely! (and got quite cold to the touch).

The take away here is, at the ripe young age of 49, I’m no longer afraid of getting a flat tire when I ride.

62 darthstar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:07:29pm

re: #58 klys

So how stupidly adult is this: my husband agrees we can probably get a new fridge. Recommendations, Lizards? I want French doors with two drawers on bottom for the freezer, he wants not-stainless-steel.

Start big. Sub-Zero. Negotiate down from there. No need to spend $10,000 on a fridge, but you should find something very nice for $1200…no need to dive all the way down to the under $700 models.

63 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:08:05pm

I hope that the world at least gets a board game out of Maidan and we get awesome prestige classes like this guy.

Achievement Unlocked: Cook in Traditional Garb. Useless in battle but feeds the people’s appetite for revolution.

64 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:08:33pm

re: #62 darthstar

Start big. Sub-Zero. Negotiate down from there. No need to spend $10,000 on a fridge, but you should find something very nice for $1200…no need to dive all the way down to the under $700 models.

My privilege will show here: I was thinking we’ll probably end up in the $1200-1600 range.

65 darthstar  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:10:17pm

re: #64 klys

My privilege will show here: I was thinking we’ll probably end up in the $1200-1600 range.

You can get a lot of fridge for that. Think about space (height, width, depth)…if you have flexibility here, you can do quite well. If you’re in a standard fridge-box size, then you need to consider how much you love the surrounding walls.

66 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:15:20pm

re: #53 The War TARDIS

So, I do now have some plans for the future.

I will be going for the Alternative route to becoming a teacher in Oklahoma. The whole process will take 3-4 years, meaning I stay here for that time.

After that, I will likely want to move to Pittsburgh. It’s a good city. Not only that, but is it centrally located among the large concentrations of Muslims in NYC, New Jersey, Virginia, Michigan, and Illinois.

I am hoping to find someone in the community here in that time. With most of my friends now being Pakistani, and doing their best to take care of my emotional health, I am largely looking in that community.

Not looking for other converts out of some level of paranoia, and British Muslims are written off too.

What’s the alternative route in OK? I did an MA in Teaching program in KY, and it took less than 2 years. 3-4 years sounds like you’re in a regular bachelors-level program for teacher ed. What’s your subject specialty going to be?

I know two Pakistani women quite well. Both are beautiful and talented in the careers. Unfortunately for you and me, both are married.

Pittsburgh is a decent town. I had family who lived in Uniontown, a former coal town not far away. I don’t recommend Uniontown.

67 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:28:52pm

Portraits from the Kiev protests.

My theory is that this guy is getting ready to propose to this girl. I have nothing to back it up except for how awesome it would be.

68 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:30:53pm

re: #65 darthstar

You can get a lot of fridge for that. Think about space (height, width, depth)…if you have flexibility here, you can do quite well. If you’re in a standard fridge-box size, then you need to consider how much you love the surrounding walls.

We have flexibility to a point.

I need to dig out the most recent Consumer Reports that did fridges.

69 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:37:32pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

Portraits from the Kiev protests.

My theory is that this guy is getting ready to propose to this girl. I have nothing to back it up except for how awesome it would be.

It would be even better if they got married wearing the same outfits. She’d probably want to ditch the balaclava, though.

70 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:41:48pm

“Don’t go looking for affection from inanimate objects.”

Bernard, from David Mamet’s Sexual Perversity in Chicago

This is probably good advice.

71 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:41:52pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

Portraits from the Kiev protests.

My theory is that this guy is getting ready to propose to this girl. I have nothing to back it up except for how awesome it would be.

Best photo from the Ukraine I’ve seen is this one. At first you think it might be yet another 1000 meter stare, but he’s aware of the photographer. He’s tired. He’s not happy. But he’s doing what he has to and hasn’t hit burnout yet. This is the kind of person every human should aspire to being.

“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects”. -R. A. Heinlein

72 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:46:49pm

re: #71 William Barnett-Lewis

Best photo from the Ukraine I’ve seen is this one. At first you think it might be yet another 1000 meter stare, but he’s aware of the photographer. He’s tired. He’s not happy. But he’s doing what he has to and hasn’t hit burnout yet. This is the kind of person every human should aspire to being.

“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects”. -R. A. Heinlein

Nice quote from the notebooks of Lazarus Long.
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73 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:49:03pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi

The process is a bit complex. I will try to explain it in the morning.

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:52:04pm

For those who wish, the whole “Kiev Fatigue” photo spread is here.

ericbouvet.com

75 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:52:30pm

re: #69 wheat-dogghazi

It would be even better if they got married wearing the same outfits. She’d probably want to ditch the balaclava, though.

Not to diminish the seriousness, but when I look at her for some reason the first thing that comes to mind is, “I want my two dollars!”

It’s all in the eyes, pure unrelenting determination.

76 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 9:59:50pm

Emails Suggest Walker Aides Ran Illegal Vote-Purging Scheme

Emails released this week appear to show Governor Scott Walker’s top aides engaging in an illegal scheme to “cage” Wisconsin voters in the weeks ahead of the 2010 gubernatorial election.

Voter caging is an illegal campaign practice used to purge voters from the rolls. Neighborhoods with large minority concentrations are most typically targeted by caging operations.

On page 15,037 of WalkerDocs 1, an email exchange between Walker staffers Kelly Rindfleisch and Nicole Simmons spells it out pretty plainly.

“If you come this Saturday I can show you how to cage,” Simmons writes. “That will be priority on the weekend.”

77 klys  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:00:32pm

The enchilada casserole and avocado slaw were a complete success. One to be added to the rotation.

Yum.

78 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:12:30pm

Heh.

79 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:14:24pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Not to diminish the seriousness, but when I look at her for some reason the first thing that comes to mind is, “I want my two dollars!”

It’s all in the eyes, pure unrelenting determination.

You know, the problem is that the Ukraine is like many other of the SSRs when the Soviet Union busted up. The easternmost area is full of ethnic Russians who don’t speak Ukranian. They have no real connection with the western two thirds of the country. Cede Kharkiv and the surrounding area to the south and southeast, including the Crimea, back to Russia. Otherwise, there will be no peace.

These are tribal fights that go back hundreds of years.

80 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:15:18pm

Bob Costas Talks of Brutality in Ukraine Amid ‘Vladimir Putin’s Games’

Twenty minutes into the penultimate night of Olympic competition from Sochi, Bob Costas took a few minutes to highlight today’s gold medal-winning Ukrainian women’s biathlon relay team amid the backdrop of the violence that raged in their home country this week. “There are about 40 Ukrainian athletes in Sochi,” Costas noted. “They requested to compete with black arm bands. That request was denied.”

Costas then talked about the success of the XXII Winter Olympics. Security has held up, venues have been praised and the warmth of the host country has shone through, he said, before tearing into the Russian regime: “While Russian citizens have better lives than Soviet citizens of a generation ago, theirs is still a government which imprisons dissidents, is hostile to gay rights, sponsors and supports a vicious regime in Syria, and that’s just a partial list.”

Well done Bob, well done.

81 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:18:45pm

re: #78 Lidane

Heh.

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I’ve had Teahadi shit bricks when I describe Obama as center right. His whole SS policy vacillation shows it perfectly though despite their horror. If that little rat bastard Cruz saved SS from the “good intentions” of the center right (as opposed to the far far far right of the GOP) then god bless that rat bastard slime ball from Texas.

82 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:28:57pm

re: #81 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve had Teahadi shit bricks when I describe Obama as center right.

I’ve had people shit bricks when I point out that the current Democratic platform is damn near the same platform that Eisenhower ran on in 1956. I love freaking people out like that. It’s a hobby. Haha.

His whole SS policy vacillation shows it perfectly though despite their horror. If that little rat bastard Cruz saved SS from the “good intentions” of the center right (as opposed to the far far far right of the GOP) then god bless that rat bastard slime ball from Texas.

I love the fact that the teabaggers had everything they wanted in their grasp and were too stupid to realize it. They were too far gone to see when they had a good thing.

83 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:30:44pm

Also, my MP3 player crapped the bed.

I need a good music app for my Galaxy S4 that is compatible with the Winamp on my computer.

84 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:30:49pm
85 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:31:37pm

re: #84 Lidane

Talking to us won’t help shit.

Deal with your pissed off people.

86 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:33:48pm

Charles for the past two days on the main page I’ve been seeing a giant Sprint ad which completely blocks the main headline.

87 Lidane  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:40:30pm

So cute. Love this:

Youtube Video

OK folks, have a great night. See you later.

88 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:44:09pm

re: #82 Lidane

I’ve had people shit bricks when I point out that the current Democratic platform is damn near the same platform that Eisenhower ran on in 1956. I love freaking people out like that. It’s a hobby. Haha.

I love the fact that the teabaggers had everything they wanted in their grasp and were too stupid to realize it. They were too far gone to see when they had a good thing.

It would have saved well over a trillion dollars in long term payments, but it was floated by That Negro President, so it couldn’t be acceptable.

By the way, the local neighborhood band, including my wife on stunt harp, is playing at Maria’s on South Lamar on Saturday night. Free show, best chimichurri sauce in town, and I’d like to chat, if you’d like to stop by.

89 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:51:16pm

re: #79 austin_blue

You know, the problem is that the Ukraine is like many other of the SSRs when the Soviet Union busted up. The easternmost area is full of ethnic Russians who don’t speak Ukranian. They have no real connection with the western two thirds of the country. Cede Kharkiv and the surrounding area to the south and southeast, including the Crimea, back to Russia. Otherwise, there will be no peace.

These are tribal fights that go back hundreds of years.

The majority of this is based on false premises. Most ethnic Russians in the Ukraine view themselves as politically Ukrainian. There hasn’t been any revenge against them or efforts to stamp out the Russian language as was done to ethnic Ukrainians under the Soviet Union. There’s also no real animus between the two group, at least not approaching the kind that existed between Georgia and the residents of South Ossetia. During the independence vote support for separation from Russia was about 90% nationwide and was 56% in Crimea, where it was least popular. Over time that sentiment has only grown stronger The people in the east want to maintain close ties with Russia, but the overwhelming majority of them adamantly do not want to be annexed back under Russian control. Via the Moscow Times:

If pursued, it would be a strategy based on self-delusion. There is no viable separatist movement in southern or eastern Ukraine, not even in the Crimea. Nor is there any public clamor for restoring a historic union with Russia. Strong public opinion in the South and East regions against the Euromaidan in Kiev and in favor of the Customs Union by no means translates into support for secession. Opinion polls in Donetsk and Lugansk regions in 2012 showed that only 2 percent support a full union with Russia.

Ethnic Russians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians are not threatened with violence. There is little likelihood of violent clashes or civil war between western and eastern parts of Ukraine. The language differences have ceased to be an issue. Efforts at replaying the World War II conflict between Ukrainian nationalists and Soviet forces are comical theatrics.

Russian interference to encourage secession of parts of Ukraine would be condemned in the West and elsewhere. What’s more, Russia would encounter instability and possibly armed resistance in the secessionist regions, injecting instability into Russia proper and incurring staggering costs.

A major confrontation with the West would ensue, with Russia isolated internationally. China would not be on Russia’s side either. Western economic sanctions, asset freezes and visa restrictions would be likely, crippling Russia’s economy. This is hardly a price worth paying for geopolitical glory.

90 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 11:08:01pm

re: #73 The War TARDIS

The process is a bit complex. I will try to explain it in the morning.

OK.

91 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 11:15:08pm

Here’s an Ethics Reform Plan from Scott Walker as he prepared to run for Governor.

Notable bullshit:

All appointed employees will be prohibited from organizing or participating in fundraising for Scott Walker’s campaign committee. (100 Day Agenda and Walker’s current policy in county government)

Scott Walker will propose legislation to prohibit closed caucus meetings and to require that all votes in Legislative committees take place in public.

92 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 11:31:13pm

More disgusting shit from the WiGOP

93 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 11:36:34pm

Republican examination of Scott Walker’s “timecard” during a 14 month period of his posing as Milwaukee County Executive shows that Scott Walker took the equivalent of 128 paid vacation days.

Scott Bauer is an AP reporter BTW.

94 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 11:50:29pm

Chipotle creates show for Hulu instead of running TV ads

Instead of launching a traditional advertising campaign, Chipotle is creating a 4-episode series for Hulu.

The show, “Farmed and Dangerous” is meant to spotlight the world of industrial agriculture, which Chipotle goes out of its way to avoid in its fast food business. The show presents PetroPellet, a petroleum-based animal feed that promises to cut the costs of growing and transporting feed. The plot is meant to show that the industrial agriculture machine will do anything to cut costs and pays little to no attention to the food product that is being delivered to the public.

95 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 12:09:05am

Exxon CEO Comes Out Against Fracking Project Because It Will Affect His Property Values

As ExxonMobil’s CEO, it’s Rex Tillerson’s job to promote the hydraulic fracturing enabling the recent oil and gas boom, and fight regulatory oversight. The oil company is the biggest natural gas producer in the U.S., relying on the controversial drilling technology to extract it.
The exception is when Tillerson’s $5 million property value might be harmed. Tillerson has joined a lawsuit that cites fracking’s consequences in order to block the construction of a 160-foot water tower next to his and his wife’s Texas home.

96 freetoken  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 12:15:27am

re: #94 Amory Blaine

The ultimate evolution of commercial television is to return to its roots - all programming is straight from the company paying the bills. Old time radio was full of shows that were nothing much more than full length commercials for the sponsor interspersed with a comedy routine or a music performance.

97 Kragar  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 12:30:57am

Of course the class I thought I would like least has become my favorite for Borderlands 2.

98 Kragar  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 12:34:02am
99 freetoken  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 1:42:18am

A dalliance with Delius:

MP3 Audio

100 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 1:49:47am

If it doesn’t work out between her and the Bike, I have an older skateboard I can introduce her to.

101 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 1:55:22am

This sort of thing will only lead to pedalophilia…

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 2:00:19am

re: #96 freetoken

The ultimate evolution of commercial television is to return to its roots - all programming is straight from the company paying the bills. Old time radio was full of shows that were nothing much more than full length commercials for the sponsor interspersed with a comedy routine or a music performance.

Welcome to the Pappy O’Daniels Flour Hour!

103 dell*nix  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 2:10:39am

The Light Crust Doughboys representing the Light Crust Flour Company.

Youtube Video

104 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 3:13:29am

“I cast magic missile”

Kiev: LARPers paradise.

105 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 3:25:21am

Kiev: Anywhere else this might be weird.

Is that a counter protester? The helmet has stickers saying Party of Regions (Yanukovich’s Party) and Berkut on it, along with an SS lightning bolt sticker.

Anyway, somebody spilled a bunch of WTF on aisle five.

106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 3:38:29am

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

“I cast magic missile”

Kiev: LARPers paradise.

the bottles have all been used for making Molotov cocktails

107 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:03:13am

The New York Times is reporting Yanukovych has fled the presidential palace.

nytimes.com

108 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:07:55am

Kiev is definitely where LARPers go to earn epic levels. I bet you could find one of every classic DnD class.

This guy is either a Druid or a Monk, have to wait until we see him in action to know for sure.

109 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:10:23am

“I’m sorry, dear — you’re just not doing it for me any more. I’m leaving you for Harley.”

110 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:12:18am

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

Kiev is definitely where LARPers go to earn epic levels. I bet you could find one of every classic DnD class.

This guy is either a Druid or a Monk, have to wait until we see him in action to know for sure.

Maybe he was just looking for the Renaissance Festival and got off at the wrong Metro station?

111 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:14:10am
112 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:17:46am
113 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:19:17am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi

The New York Times is reporting Yanukovych has fled the presidential palace.

nytimes.com

Yanuk’s either already out of the country or in the process of fleeing. I just don’t believe that, with things the way they are in Kharkiv, he’d have tried to take refuge there.

114 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:20:07am

High level thief / rogue.

115 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:23:15am

re: #113 Targetpractice

Did we ever find out who was in that plane flying to the UAE?

116 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:24:53am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi

Did we ever find out who was in that plane flying to the UAE?

Not to my knowledge.

117 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:26:33am

Definitely a Monk this time.

118 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:27:30am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi

Did we ever find out who was in that plane flying to the UAE?

No, and I’m pretty sure that’s what’s fuelling the talk that Yanukovych has fled the country. There’s been no video or photos or live coverage of him in Kharkiv, or anywhere else in Ukraine for that matter.

119 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:33:40am
120 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:35:34am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

I wonder if he’ll need to wait in the airport capsule hotel for several weeks while they process his paperwork.

121 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:36:49am
122 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:37:06am

re: #120 wheat-dogghazi

I wonder if he’ll need to wait in the airport capsule hotel for several weeks while they process his paperwork.

Ahahahahaha!

123 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:44:14am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

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And that’s the ballgame.

124 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:47:21am

re: #123 Targetpractice

Yep. Game over.

125 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 4:50:55am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

A bowl of stewed mushrooms and a turkey leg sounds good about now.

126 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:01:18am

I wouldn’t want to be around Putin right now. I imagine he’s not overly thrilled by how badly things degenerated over the course of two weeks. Probably chewing out some adviser for telling him to remain on the sidelines during the Olympics when he could have been sending “support” to Yanuk.

127 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:03:22am

Level 20 Soviet Minion

1(-5) Charisma

128 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:10:11am

re: #127 Amory Blaine

Still Life With Apparatchik.

129 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:13:41am

Ukraine’s Yulia Tymoshenko may be freed: A look at the jailed opposition leader

O_o. Comment for the article:

Esther Simpson
2/21/2014 3:54 PM CST
I hope she is freed in time to win GOLD for the Ukraine in the Figure Skating competition. It is so hard seeing her forced to skate for her Russian captors! She is a beautiful girl and a lovely skater!

130 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:17:12am

re: #129 Amory Blaine

131 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:21:24am

re: #129 Amory Blaine

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

“Those Ukrainian and Russian names are so hard to keep straight! I get lost every time I try to read Tolstoy! lol” — Esther

132 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:38:15am

This is an interesting development, if accurate:

133 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:39:58am

No one is yet confirming Yanuk has resigned; his spox denies it. But, maybe Ukraine can repossess some of its valuable artifacts while he’s off to wherever.

Be sure to read the Kyiv Post article for more news—about his replacement and others.

134 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:41:35am

Andriy Petrovych Klyuyev (Ukrainian: Андрій Петрович Клюєв), also spelled as Andrey/Andriy Kluev/Klyuev, is a Ukrainian businessman and politician, ranked as 7th “Most influential person in Ukraine” in 2011 by the Korrespondent. He is the head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine since January 24 2014.

Per his Wikipedia entry.

135 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:43:32am

Done!

136 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:44:04am

re: #133 Justanotherhuman

No one is yet confirming Yanuk has resigned; his spox denies it. But, maybe Ukraine can repossess some of its valuable artifacts while he’s off to wherever.

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Be sure to read the Kyiv Post article for more news—about his replacement and others.

I just saw this Tweet - conflicting info as to Yanukovych.

137 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:44:27am

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

You beat me to it!

138 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:47:46am

How is life this early morning?

We seem to be free of precipitation in my part of the world right now. And it’s rather warm. Going back to zero by Tuesday or so.

My allergies are showing.

139 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:48:03am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

You beat me to it!

This is great news for Ukraine.

140 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:49:33am

Maybe Leno will buy these…

141 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:51:25am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

Or this.

Public servant my ass.

142 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:56:16am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

Makes me wonder what Putin has at his estate(s).

143 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:56:50am

Where else is he supposed to enjoy a nice breakfast?

144 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:57:41am

I know where the world’s largest party is going to be tonight.

Ruslana, Kiev’s “Minstrel of the Streets” and Eurovision winner, sings…

Youtube Video

145 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:57:45am

I like the use of the light bollard.

146 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:59:02am

Or, maybe not….

147 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 5:59:28am

So, if the people of Ukraine sell all this shit, we’ll have no need for Putin’s credit.

148 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:00:27am
149 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:01:21am

People are playing golf on his golf course.

150 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:01:55am

Tough titty, Yanuk. Your resignation is no longer in your hands.

151 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:03:01am
152 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:04:38am

I never thought about marrying a bicycle.

Really, one does have a rather intimate relationship with it. And most people prefer to have only one bike they ride on a regular basis.

Not marrying it seems tawdry—doncha think?

153 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:05:39am
154 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:06:11am

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

Exactly. All he can do at this point is either ask Putin for an intervention by force to restore him to power, or ask Putin for asylum, while claiming he’s the “legitimate” President and the current Rada is acting illegally.

155 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:06:49am

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

So, if the people of Ukraine sell all this shit, we’ll have no need for Putin’s credit.

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Hell, who knows how much of the country’s debt is sitting in that man’s palace?

156 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:07:50am

re: #155 Targetpractice

Hell, who knows how much of the country’s debt is sitting in that man’s palace?

Look for gold bars in the basement, and bitcoins on his computers.

157 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:08:36am

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. All he can do at this point is either ask Putin for an intervention by force to restore him to power, or ask Putin for asylum, while claiming he’s the “legitimate” President and the current Rada is acting illegally.

If Putin does intervene, then that’s pretty much the end of democracy in Ukraine. With the amount of blood on that man’s hands, there’s no way he’d ever be reelected. And the Rada that is turning on him sure as hell would not go along with efforts to further strengthen his regime.

158 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:09:20am
159 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:10:05am

A little dose of fat puppies:

160 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:13:35am

Yeah, it turns out that Yanuk really was the true kleptocrat people thought he was and now he wants it back, evidently.


What a stupid criminal.

161 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:15:08am

re: #157 Targetpractice

If Putin does intervene, then that’s pretty much the end of democracy in Ukraine. With the amount of blood on that man’s hands, there’s no way he’d ever be reelected. And the Rada that is turning on him sure as hell would not go along with efforts to further strengthen his regime.

Not to mention that a Russian invasion of Ukraine would be met with force, as well as massive popular resistance on the part of the Ukrainian people.

162 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:16:12am

So, some of the criminals are fleeing to places in Ukraine they think are “safe”?

163 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:16:13am

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, it turns out that Yanuk really was the true kleptocrat people thought he was and now he wants it back, evidently.

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What a stupid criminal.

Possibly Putin won’t let him resign.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:17:11am
165 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:17:47am
166 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:18:47am

So this guy is the Imelda Marcos of the Ukraine?

167 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:19:48am

I think the second video is from one of Yanuk’s estates. Live.

ukrstream.tv

168 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:19:51am

Here is the video of him saying he won’t resign.

169 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:21:11am
170 Mattand  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:22:08am

A little something to lighten the mood:

Intergalactic Krewe of Chewbacchus

171 b.d.  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:22:24am

re: #158 NJDhockeyfan

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I had no idea baseball was so popular in eastern Europe.

172 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:22:33am

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

The Ukrainian Public Prosecutor’s Office should issue an arrest warrant for Yanukovych and his cronies, and then also ask Interpol to do a “red card” for them as well.

That’ll put some pressure on ‘em.

173 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:23:24am

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

I am resigning …. {Thinks to self: No wait! All that stuff I left behind. My boat! My cars! The animals!}

Nevermind. I am not resigning. Yes, I am sure of that now. I am not resigning! This is a coup d’etat! I demand justice!!

174 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:26:18am

Oh wait—that video on Ukr isn’t live, as I thought. It’s a tape; nonetheless shows just a portion of the wealth he has accumulated. This must be his dacha on the Black Sea.

175 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:26:45am

Have you ever seen a Wire Haired Pointing Griffon puppy?

176 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:27:49am

re: #164 NJDhockeyfan

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He looks like a Zombie.

177 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:27:57am

Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi 2m

The question is WHEN the video of defiant Yanukovych was recorded. Did he changed his mind in chat w/ Yatseniuk later, or otherwise

178 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:28:40am

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi 2m

The question is WHEN the video of defiant Yanukovych was recorded. Did he changed his mind in chat w/ Yatseniuk later, or otherwise

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Did members of the Nazi party riot in Germany?

179 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:30:48am

re: #178 FemNaziBitch

Did members of the Nazi party riot in Germany?

Yes, right after they bombed Pearl Harbour.

180 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:32:03am

In that footage on Ukr I referred to, there was a structure housing about 6 different boats, with what appeared to be living quarters above (for the help, I assume).

181 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:33:32am

Johnny Weir’s latest fabulous hair doo. He should call it the ‘Putin’.

182 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:37:25am

Yanuk is doomed.

183 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:37:53am

Maybe this is why Yanuk is so reluctant to leave office.

qha.com.ua

Nice digs.

*spit*

184 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:38:07am
185 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:40:18am
186 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:41:04am

re: #183 Dr Lizardo

Maybe this is why Yanuk is so reluctant to leave office.

qha.com.ua

Nice digs.

*spit*

Power, the most insidious of vices, seduces completely.

187 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:42:24am

re: #182 Justanotherhuman

Yanuk is doomed.

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“Yanuk told us to put these in the shredder before we leave”

“Fuck it, we don’t have time for that shit. Just throw it in the creek, nobody will find it there”

188 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:43:41am

From everyone’s favorite Presidential Candidate:

Ethnic cleansing in NYC: Almost 50% of 2012 abortions were black

189 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:44:08am

Nice house.

190 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:45:35am

re: #179 NJDhockeyfan

Yes, right after they bombed Pearl Harbour.

ah!

191 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:48:57am
192 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:51:13am
193 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:52:23am

re: #188 FemNaziBitch

From everyone’s favorite Presidential Candidate:

Ethnic cleansing in NYC: Almost 50% of 2012 abortions were black

my reply to the fb post in which I learned of this:

There is no data on the report linked as to how many women were taking contraception—broken down by racial groups. Pregnancy termination is an INDIVIDUAL CHOICE in the USA and ethnic cleansing is a STATE ACTION —the report does give any data relating to the reasons the women chose to terminate. There is not enough data to support the conclusion that ethnic cleansing is occurring.

194 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:52:57am

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

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All the best kleptocrats in Ukraine did that, doncha know?

195 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:54:23am

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan

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Like I said, a chance for Leno to pick up some quality wheels, no doubt.

Oh wait, was he fired, too?

196 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:54:29am

re: #179 NJDhockeyfan

Yes, right after they bombed Pearl Harbour.

Did they burn cars and an effigy of George W Bush?

197 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:55:53am
198 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 6:59:50am

Ah, so this is Russia’s game…

199 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:02:01am

bbl

200 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:02:49am

It’s Arnold Palmer Day at the Yanukovych Country Club today!

201 Flounder  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:06:19am

Stuck in Fort Myers :( Plane broke. Southwest said we could get you back to Albany by Tuesday. Posting with smartphone sux. Oh well :)

202 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:06:58am
203 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:09:19am
204 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:10:28am
205 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:12:05am

re: #198 Justanotherhuman

Yep.

“The West has failed, therefore we (Russia) must act in order to secure stability and prevent chaos.”

Total bullshit, but relatively typical Russian bullshit. Very Stalinesque or Brezhnevian.

206 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:13:01am
207 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:14:40am

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

208 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:14:57am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

Yep.

“The West has failed, therefore we (Russia) must act in order to secure stability and prevent chaos.”

Total bullshit, but relatively typical Russian bullshit. Very Stalinesque or Brezhnevian.

The problem is unless the EU wants to start WWIII, don’t they have to let the Russians invade and reinstall Yanuk?

209 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:15:17am

re: #206 NJDhockeyfan

That horse in the photo is probably thinking, “Who the hell are all these people?”

210 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:18:11am

re: #208 Chrysicat

The Ukrainian military needs to bluntly say “Any attempt to invade Ukraine or otherwise interfere in its territory on the part of the Russians will be met with maximum force by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.”

Then (if I were in charge of the EU and NATO), I’d say the same thing. Publicly. And I’d put NATO on alert, publicly, and tell Putin to back off.

But then again, I confess to being somewhat hardcore about things.

211 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:18:40am

A pretty objective assessment of the key players in govt and the rebellion in Ukraine (although I think it’s a little light on Yanuk, but that’s just me).
Who’s who: These are the key figures and groups in Ukraine’s political crisis

Trying to understand what the hell is happening in Ukraine? Here’s a breakdown of all the major players.

globalpost.com

212 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:19:24am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

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213 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:20:40am

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

That horse in the photo is probably thinking, “Who the hell are all these people?”

That’s no horse! That’s the Presidential Pony. : )

214 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:22:18am

Election Day!

215 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:23:36am

re: #212 Justanotherhuman

Choke on that, Yanukovych.

216 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:25:28am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

The Ukrainian military needs to bluntly say “Any attempt to invade Ukraine or otherwise interfere in its territory on the part of the Russians will be met with maximum force by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.”

Then (if I were in charge of the EU and NATO), I’d say the same thing. Publicly. And I’d put NATO on alert, publicly, and tell Putin to back off.

But then again, I confess to being somewhat hardcore about things.

Personally I’d take it a step further and say any military action on Russia’s part, whether to put down the revolution or to return Yanuk to power, will be regarded as an act of war upon the Ukrainian people and will be met with equal or greater force.

217 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:26:14am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

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It doesn’t matter if he says he resigned or not, he will soon be a civilian and should be arrested for murder. I hope it goes that way. Putin has to be pissed. The damn Olympics got in his way from saving Yanuk in time.

218 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:27:05am

re: #216 Targetpractice

Yep. And I’m just crazy enough to say it!

[maniacal_laughter]Ha. Haha. Ahahahahahahaha!!![/maniacal_laughter]

219 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:27:19am

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

That horse in the photo is probably thinking, “Who the hell are all these people?”

He’s thinking ‘Wilber might finally come save me.’

220 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:28:34am

re: #217 NJDhockeyfan

It doesn’t matter if he says he resigned or not, he will soon be a civilian and should be arrested to murder. I hope it goes that way. Putin has to be pissed. The damn Olympics got in his way from saving Yanuk in time.

If he truly still is in Kharkiv, then he’s pretty much surrounded with few remaining allies. Most of the rats have already begun to flee the sinking ship and those that remain are either busy looking out for themselves or are trying to convince the revolutionaries that they were never on his side to begin with.

221 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:30:56am

re: #217 NJDhockeyfan

It doesn’t matter if he says he resigned or not, he will soon be a civilian and should be arrested for murder. I hope it goes that way. Putin has to be pissed. The damn Olympics got in his way from saving Yanuk in time.

Well, even narcissists don’t have the energy and time to cover everything…

222 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:32:40am
223 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:35:56am

People must be saying to themselves, “Can you believe this shit?”

Youtube Video

224 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:39:03am

Matt Frei ‏@mattfrei 12m

Yanus own people in parliament voted for his impeachment. The President is a very lonely man in his own country. Supported only by Russia


Time to party now…

225 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:39:12am

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

People must be saying to themselves, “Can you believe this shit?”

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That is how or even better the rich in our country live and they are the ones fighting the Minimum Wage, go figure.

226 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:39:33am

Czech TV is saying this whole affair puts Russia in a very difficult position, and it’s also an unprecedented slap in the face to Vladimir Putin; a major humiliation to his prestige.

The Czech commentators are noting this with what I can only describe as barely concealed glee, lol.

227 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:39:48am

re: #225 Tigger2

That is how or even better the rich in our country live and they are the ones fighting the Minimum Wage, go figure.

Yeah, I wonder how many rich folks are watching this stuff and going “Shit, that could be us!”

228 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:40:07am
229 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:40:23am

re: #227 Targetpractice

Yeah, I wonder how many rich folks are watching this stuff and going “Shit, that could be us!”

I hope a lot. lol

230 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:42:00am

re: #225 Tigger2

That is how or even better the rich in our country live and they are the ones fighting the Minimum Wage, go figure.

The difference is the rich people here earned their money, they didn’t steal it.

231 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:42:08am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Czech TV is saying this whole affair puts Russia in a very difficult position, and it’s also an unprecedented slap in the face to Vladimir Putin; a major humiliation to his prestige.

The Czech commentators are noting this with what I can only describe as barely concealed glee, lol.

“Very difficult”? That’s an understatement. Vlad’s got no real choice, rolling in the tanks is pretty much no longer an option. The blood shed necessary to put Yanuk back after the Rada just voted to impeach him would be horrendous. And any steps taken to keep Yanuk in power now would be to the detriment of democracy in Ukraine.

I’m personally curious as to how the Putin fan club are gonna take this. How can such a powerful and charismatic leader have had his puppet removed from office in such a fashion?

232 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:42:44am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

The difference is the rich people here earned their money, they didn’t steal it.

That’s questionable in some cases.

233 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:44:02am

9 or 18 holes, doesn’t matter. The upkeep must be huge for this estate. I read elsewhere and linked a week or so ago that an estimate in US dollars of this particular Yanukovich estate could be up to $220M.

234 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:45:38am

re: #233 Justanotherhuman

9 or 18 holes, doesn’t matter. The upkeep must be huge for this estate. I read elsewhere and linked a week or so ago that an estimate in US dollars of this particular Yanukovich estate could be up to $220M.

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No wonder he had to borrow money from Putin.

235 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:45:43am

re: #232 Tigger2

That’s questionable in some cases.

They are usually arrested and locked up when caught.

236 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:46:18am
237 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:47:46am

Good news this morning. Where did Yanuk end up? Was that his plane last night? Do we know where he is?

238 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:48:10am

re: #235 NJDhockeyfan

They are usually arrested and locked up when caught.

If that happened, a lot of wall street would have been in jail right now after 08. And by the way screw some of those bastard rich crooks some of my tax money went to bail them out, they owe me and a lot of Americans.

239 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:49:10am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Czech TV is saying this whole affair puts Russia in a very difficult position, and it’s also an unprecedented slap in the face to Vladimir Putin; a major humiliation to his prestige.

The Czech commentators are noting this with what I can only describe as barely concealed glee, lol.

Very nice to see Putin get at least a temporary loss in his winning streak.

240 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:50:24am

re: #237 Killgore Trout

Good news this morning. Where did Yanuk end up? Was that his plane last night? Do we know where he is?

Word is he’s hiding out in a country club 40km from the Russian border. But he’s also saying there’s no way he’s gonna leave power…even though the Rada just voted to remove him from power.

241 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:51:34am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

The difference is the rich people here earned their money, they didn’t steal it.

So, tell me. How did the Waltons and Kochs earn their money?

I thought they all inherited it.

Horatio Alger wrote about impoverished youth making it to the middle class and respectability, not ruling it with money, something that could be done up until around the middle of last century, if you were white, that is, and a male. Ragged Dick these days is most likely to remain Ragged Dick along with the rest.

242 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:51:46am

re: #237 Killgore Trout

Good news this morning. Where did Yanuk end up? Was that his plane last night? Do we know where he is?

Don’t know exactly where he is.
He was reported to resigning then he got on TV and changed his mind.
He was just impeached.
Nobody knows who was on that plane. Perhaps his family?
Putin is throwing chairs and lamps around all over his office.

243 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:53:22am

re: #240 Targetpractice

Word is he’s hiding out in a country club 40km from the Russian border. But he’s also saying there’s no way he’s gonna leave power…even though the Rada just voted to remove him from power.

Ah, thanks

244 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:54:48am
245 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:55:12am

re: #241 Justanotherhuman

So, tell me. How did the Waltons and Kochs earn their money?

I thought they all inherited it.

Horatio Alger wrote about impoverished youth making it to the middle class and respectability, not ruling it with money, something that could be done up until around the middle of last century, if you were white, that is, and a male. Ragged Dick these days is most likely to remain Ragged Dick along with the rest.

How is that related to theft? It is not even close to how Yanukovich paid for his property and who knows how much he has in the bank.

246 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:55:59am

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

Exclusive of Putin when he found out that Yanukovych had been formally removed from office by the Rada!

Starring Alan Rickman as Vladimir Putin

247 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:58:19am
248 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:59:02am

Last night’s falafel with salmon baked in parchment.
MrBWS said the falafel was amazing and must be added to the Backwoods menu rotation.

Falafel and salmon w/olive oil & basil baked in parchment.

249 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:00:09am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks good. Bravo.

250 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:00:36am


I’m not sure if he even has the army anymore.

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:00:40am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Thank you! It was very good!

252 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:02:00am

re: #250 NJDhockeyfan

I think even the Ukrainian Army has abandoned Yanukovych at this point.

253 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:02:30am

Damn, history! You scary.

254 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:06:44am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

I think even the Ukrainian Army has abandoned Yanukovych at this point.

Any thought by Putin of rolling tanks in have probably been scratched. He has nobody to help anymore.

255 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:08:56am

re: #250 NJDhockeyfan

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I’m not sure if he even has the army anymore.

The impression I’d gotten from the Army is they have no dog in this fight, but if ordered to put down the revolutionaries would refuse those orders and probably turn on Yanuk.

256 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:08:58am

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

He can still call himself the President of the country club he’s hiding out at, so I suppose that’s some small consolation for him.

*snort*

257 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:10:15am

re: #237 Killgore Trout

Good news this morning. Where did Yanuk end up? Was that his plane last night? Do we know where he is?

Any word from Oliver Stone?

258 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:13:02am

re: #257 Gus

Any word from Oliver Stone?

He’s palling around with Dan Rather (not kidding)
thewrap.com

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:13:48am
260 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:14:56am
261 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:15:10am
262 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:15:31am

heh…

263 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:17:08am

re: #258 Killgore Trout

He’s palling around with Dan Rather (not kidding)
thewrap.com

The Killian documents weren’t forged man! //

264 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:17:33am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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Ten people turned out for pro-Yanukovych rally

4 of them didn’t even know it was a rally. They were just there already site seeing!!
//

265 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:18:51am
266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:19:34am
267 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:19:39am

Dkos rec list finally acknowledges developments in Venezuela
Venezuela: A Serious Threat to The Int’l Neo-Liberal Cartel Hegemony

There is a reason why the socialist government of Venezuela is (and has been) in the crosshairs of the international neo-liberal cartel. What Chavismo has been able to accomplish in Venezuela if allowed to stand, it would represent one of the most serious ideological challenges to the U.S.-led international Neo-liberal agenda.

That is why the U.S. is currently engaged in a clandestine destabilization campaign against the Venezuelan government, in collaboration with Venezuelan oligarchs and right wing extremists. And that also explains the almost-comical (but not funny) massive propaganda campaign we’re being subjected to here in the U.S., when it comes to the current situation in Venezuela.

268 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:20:00am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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lol

269 ObserverArt  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:22:03am

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

People must be saying to themselves, “Can you believe this shit?”

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Would there be much difference if we were allowed to stroll through the goods that some of the 1%ers posses here in the US of A?

270 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:22:07am
271 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:22:17am

This photo purports to be a toilet at Yanukovych’s estate.

When you gotta go, go with style, right. Damn, I think even Liberace would say this is over the top.

272 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:23:11am

re: #267 Killgore Trout

,,,,,massive propaganda campaign we’re being subjected to here in the U.S.,
ummm,,,,where??

I guess my subscription to Massive Propaganda Daily must have expired

273 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:23:37am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

It gives a whole new meaning to using the throne.

274 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:24:02am

re: #273 PhillyPretzel

Yes it does. In this case, a very literal meaning.

275 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:24:35am

re: #269 ObserverArt

Would there be much difference if we were allowed to stroll through the goods that some of the 1%ers posses here in the US of A?

Never did the White House tour, didjya

276 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:24:50am

Good times. It’s like Cold War improv theater.

277 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:26:01am

And it’s got a 5 dollar Walmart lid on it.

278 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:26:30am

re: #275 sattv4u2

Never did the White House tour, didjya

The White House is temporary government housing.

279 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:26:30am

re: #245 NJDhockeyfan

How is that related to theft? It is not even close to how Yanukovich paid for his property and who knows how much he has in the bank.

It’s related to theft when property(ies) of individuals are seized by “eminent domain” or damaged without recourse to those responsible, through the State for projects like the Keystone pipeline (or for mines, etc) from which those like the Kochs are able to profit.

In the case of the Waltons, the same philosophy can also be applied, when they move into areas and buy up land cheaply, get concessions from local govts on taxes, infrastructure, etc, and close down local businesses because of their ability to buy in volume cheaply (esp from overseas).

I know in the State of NC, hundreds of millions have been handed over to companies in tax relief, providing of infrastructure (such as utilities lines) on the promises that hundreds of jobs will be provided. Apple did something very similar not too far from me, with its 2”energy farms” for its data center which cover many acres of land and employs about 50 people, total at this point, in an area that has very high unemployment.

tech.fortune.cnn.com

280 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:27:34am

re: #277 Amory Blaine

And it’s got a 5 dollar Walmart lid on it.

nahh,,,, that ones heated !!!


I like that they had enough extra faux gold squares left over to frame the mirror

281 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:28:27am

re: #277 Amory Blaine

And it’s got a 5 dollar Walmart lid on it.

Had to cut costs somewhere!

282 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:29:26am

How to escape from a Venezuelan checkpoint
Liveleak Video

283 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:30:02am
284 ObserverArt  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:30:14am

re: #245 NJDhockeyfan

How is that related to theft? It is not even close to how Yanukovich paid for his property and who knows how much he has in the bank.

Theft is an elusive word. It can have many methods behind it. Some of it can even be determined by others to be legal.

Are credit cards with 20% rates theft or legal? Is selling substandard crappy products for high profit theft or legit? Are producing goods knowing you are ignoring environmental standards so you can get more profit theft or legal? Is backroom betting on risky mortgages by big bankers or fudging reports for a better IPO of stock theft or legit?

285 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:31:43am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The stench of corruption is getting more overpowering by the moment.

286 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:33:03am

I thought I recognized Gus & Killgore from somewhere,

Youtube Video

287 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:33:16am

re: #285 Targetpractice

Yep…..this guy was a regular Al Capone with the added bonus of being head of state.

Disgusting.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:33:47am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just like what rich people are doing in the US!

289 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:34:18am

IMF is already wringing its hands.

290 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:34:47am

re: #272 sattv4u2

,,,,,massive propaganda campaign we’re being subjected to here in the U.S.,
ummm,,,,where??

I guess my subscription to Massive Propaganda Daily must have expired

The Koch bros will deliver it directly into you cerebral cortex

291 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:34:49am

re: #282 Killgore Trout

How to escape from a Venezuelan checkpoint
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Shouldn’t he ditch that bike, and avoid going home ‘cause they might go there to arrest him?

292 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:35:42am

I’m beginning to wonder more and more if Ukraine’s debt really is in Yanuk’s backyard.

293 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:35:50am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wish I could RT that one, but anything Svaboda touched is kinda iffy to my way of thinking even if it damns the previous authoritarian jackass…

294 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:36:02am
295 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:36:13am

re: #290 Killgore Trout

The Koch bros will deliver it directly into you cerebral cortex

Ahhh

I thought I felt a thrill going up my leg earlier

296 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:37:04am

re: #295 sattv4u2

Ahhh

I thought I felt a thrill going up my leg earlier

Funny place to keep your cerebral cortex.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:37:29am

re: #292 Targetpractice

I’m beginning to wonder more and more if Ukraine’s debt really >is in Yanuk’s backyard.

Swiss bank accounts more likely.

298 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:37:34am

re: #294 Gus

A true giant in the media. I know he was over 6 feet tall. RIP

299 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:38:00am

Dkos rec list think Maduro is being unfairly treated to upset his worker’s paradise but that sneaky Obama regime is up to no good!
Mysterious Break-Ins @ Whistleblower Organizations. J. Radack Targeted

300 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:38:03am

re: #298 PhillyPretzel

A true giant in the media. I know he was over 6 feet tall.

301 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:39:13am

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

Swiss bank accounts more likely.

No doubt. What better way to hide away ill-gotten wealth.

302 ObserverArt  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:39:13am

re: #275 sattv4u2

Never did the White House tour, didjya

I know how the world works, It is not all on the up and up no matter what country, political spectrum or ‘ism’ is practiced.

I think I would be outraged if I visited the Vatican and got to tour through their holdings too.

303 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:41:31am

re: #302 ObserverArt

I know how the world works, It is not all on the up and up no matter what country, political spectrum or ‘ism’ is practiced.

I think I would be outraged if I visited the Vatican and got to tour through their holdings too.

Add Buckingham Palace, the halls (and offices) of congress, Élysée Palace,,, ect ect ect ,,,,

304 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:44:11am

re: #303 sattv4u2

ect ect ect ,,,,

etc., etc., etc….. FTFY

305 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:44:59am


Clown.

306 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:45:36am

re: #302 ObserverArt

I know how the world works, It is not all on the up and up no matter what country, political spectrum or ‘ism’ is practiced.

I think I would be outraged if I visited the Vatican and got to tour through their holdings too.

re: #303 sattv4u2

Add Buckingham Palace, the halls (and offices) of congress, Élysée Palace,,, ect ect ect ,,,,

You pretty much can. Most of the precioussses there are in public museum mode. (Watch the Vatican espresso shop, though—only place in Italy I was ripped off for a cappuccino.)

307 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:46:15am

re: #304 PhillyPretzel

ect ect ect ,,,,

etc., etc., etc….. FTFY

thanks

Thats what I get for not looking at the keys when I try to type

308 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:49:04am

Here it is:

309 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:50:10am

By ‘them’, I assume he means the former regime. This is a good sign, because this is the way such things must be handled. As tempting as the idea of “revolutionary justice” may be, that temptation has to be scrupulously avoided.

310 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:51:07am

re: #308 Gus

Whatever Maduro’s smoking must be some good shit.

311 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:51:59am

Thanks for the promotion, Charles, and thanks for the punny lols, lizards. I didn’t get very far yet, I have to go finish watching the Corgi on the carrousel.

312 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:54:17am

Crappy translation since I have to think too hard to translate myself…

“John Kerry to Venezuela threatens more violence, with their statements it gives green light to violent groups to attack our people.”
— Maduro

313 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:54:39am

Yanuk’s finished. This is pretty much that last nail in the coffin.

314 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:55:05am

OK, back to the Europeans.

315 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:55:56am
316 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:57:07am
317 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:58:00am

Another Yanuk location spotted

318 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:58:50am
319 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:58:53am
320 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:59:01am
321 ObserverArt  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 8:59:09am

Time to get banging on the ol’ house…a never-ending task pleasure.

Unfortunately the world’s issues will still be here later. I’ll catch up with them and all the lizard types then. May some positive come out of the day…for everyone.

322 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:00:02am
323 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:00:08am

re: #313 Dr Lizardo

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Yanuk’s finished. This is pretty much that last nail in the coffin.

Good. Now if the people of Venezuela can have as good an outcome we’ll be doing above average for this world.

324 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:00:20am

re: #319 Justanotherhuman

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Weird.

325 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:01:20am

New pic of Yulia Tymoshenko…

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:01:50am

re: #324 Decatur Deb

Weird.

< rimshot >

327 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:02:44am

re: #323 William Barnett-Lewis

Good. Now if the people of Venezuela can have as good an outcome we’ll be doing above average for this world.

It will definitely give them hope that what they are doing can succeed.

328 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:03:32am
329 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:04:37am


Face it, the snipers will be hunted down like animals by someone.

330 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:05:07am

Bummer. Had to block another LWNJ on Twitter. Seems to be a trend with me since I seem to challenge LWNJs there.

331 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:06:02am

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

Any thought by Putin of rolling tanks in have probably been scratched. He has nobody to help anymore.

Agreed. I’ve seen some talk from “serious” people that there might be ethnic/regional tension between east and west Ukraine and Russia may intervene to hold the east. It still seems very unlikely to me.

332 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:06:05am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

The difference is the rich people here earned their money, they didn’t steal it.

Pardon me while laugh out loud, with a few titters thrown in.

333 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:11:35am


Heh. He has nowhere to go. He should have caught that flight to UAE yesterday.

334 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:14:08am
335 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:14:32am

re: #333 NJDhockeyfan

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Heh. He has nowhere to go. He should have caught that flight to UAE yesterday.

Cornered like a rat in a trap. There’s no dacha in his future, but I’m sure they can find a nice, damp and rotten jail cell for him.

336 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:16:33am

re: #333 NJDhockeyfan

Yep……right now, he could be living it up on a beach in Dubai, recalling his glory days, and his car collection and his private galleon.

LOLOLOL……too f***ing bad, Yanuk.

337 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:19:03am
338 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:19:56am

A few hours ago he said:


Having a bad day Yanuk?

339 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:21:09am

Think that’ll end up being Putin’s black eye from this whole affair, if Yanuk ends up on trial and the extent of the corruption and illicit influence running rampant under his rule are brought out in the open.

340 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:21:55am

Situation in Venezuela

Press Statement
John Kerry
Secretary of State
Washington, DC
February 21, 2014

I am watching with increasing concern the situation in Venezuela. Despite calls from that country’s democratic opposition and the international community, the Venezuelan government has confronted peaceful protestors with force and in some cases with armed vigilantes claiming to support the government. It has imprisoned students and a key opposition figure. It has limited the freedoms of expression and assembly necessary for legitimate political debate, and just today tightened restrictions on the media, revoking the credentials of CNN en Español reporters. This is not how democracies behave.

Every government has a duty to maintain public order, and all sides, including the opposition protestors, must refrain from violence. The government’s use of force and judicial intimidation against citizens and political figures, who are exercising a legitimate right to protest, is unacceptable and will only increase the likelihood of violence.

I call on the Venezuelan government to step back from its efforts to stifle dissent through force and respect basic human rights. The government should release incarcerated members of the opposition and initiate a process of genuine dialogue with the democratic opposition. The solution to Venezuela’s problems can only be found through dialogue with all Venezuelans, engaging in a free exchange of opinions in a climate of mutual respect.

341 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:23:23am

The government’s use of force and judicial intimidation against citizens and political figures, who are exercising a legitimate right to protest, is unacceptable and will only increase the likelihood of violence.

342 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:24:15am

re: #306 Decatur Deb

You pretty much can. Most of the preciousess there are in public museum mode. (Watch the Vatican espresso shop, though—only place in Italy I was ripped off for a cappuccino.)

I took the tour of the gold and jewels, but was under the impression that only a fraction was on display. This would have been 1980.

343 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:24:26am

re: #341 Gus

The government’s use of force and judicial intimidation against citizens and political figures, who are exercising a legitimate right to protest, is unacceptable and will only increase the likelihood of violence.

From the Captain Obvious speech writing archives

344 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:25:09am

re: #343 sattv4u2

From the Captain Obvious speech writing archives

Pretty much. Yet Maduro is calling this incitement to violence.

345 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:26:25am
346 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:27:30am

re: #344 Gus

Pretty much. Yet Maduro is calling this incitement to violence.

when they are chasing you with torches, keep your head high and pretend you’re leading the parade

347 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:28:49am
348 Lidane  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:30:51am

Because the people in Ukraine don’t have plenty of their own reasons to want Yanukovych gone:


It’s a conspiracy!

349 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:32:47am

re: #347 Chrysicat

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Shit. On the positive side we beat Russia. That’s worth something.

350 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:34:13am
351 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:35:52am

re: #348 Lidane

Because the people in Ukraine don’t have plenty of their own reasons to want Yanukovych gone:

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It’s a conspiracy!

Mark can go fuck himself.

352 Chrysicat  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:36:59am
353 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:37:07am

Russia Today [x]
Democracy Now [x]

You have to admire the consistency.

354 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:40:23am
355 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:42:05am

re: #348 Lidane

Because the people in Ukraine don’t have plenty of their own reasons to want Yanukovych gone:

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It’s a conspiracy!

Allow me to express my opinion to Mark:

356 Lidane  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:43:27am
357 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:45:15am

Actually, it’s not Mark but Democracy Now and Amy Goodman asking questions.

358 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:46:12am
AMY GOODMAN: Let’s go to President Obama. He’s in Mexico for the big Mexico-Canada-U.S. summit talking about Ukraine.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: With regard to Ukraine, along with our European partners, we will continue to engage all sides. And we continue to stress to President Yanukovych and the Ukrainian government that they have the primary responsibility to prevent the kind of terrible violence that we’ve seen, to withdraw riot police, to work with the opposition to restore security and human dignity, and move the country forward. And this includes progress towards a multi-party, technical government that can work with the international community on a support package and adopt reforms necessary for free and fair elections next year. Ukrainians are a proud and resilient people who have overcome extraordinary challenges in their history, and that’s a pride and strength that I hope they draw on now.

AMY GOODMAN: That’s President Obama in Mexico, Professor Cohen.

STEPHEN COHEN: What are you asking me to comment on?

AMY GOODMAN: Your response to his response.

STEPHEN COHEN: To what he just said? Shame. Shame. He is saying that the responsibility for restoring peace is on the Ukrainian government, and it should withdraw its security forces from the streets. But let me ask you, if in Washington people throwing Molotov cocktails are marching on Congress—and these people are headed for the Ukrainian Congress—if these people have barricaded entrance to the White House and are throwing rocks at the White House security guard, would President Obama withdraw his security forces? This is—this is—and do you know what this does? And let’s escape partisanship here. I mean, lives are at stake. This incites, these kinds of statement that Obama made. It rationalizes what the killers in the streets are doing. It gives them Western license, because he’s not saying to the people in the streets, “Stop this, stop shooting policemen, stop attacking government buildings, sit down and talk.” And the guy you had on just before, a so-called moderate leader, what did he just tell you? “We have lost control of the situation.” That’s what I just told you. He just confirmed that.

So what Obama needs to say is, “We deplore what the people in the streets are doing when they attack the police, the law enforcement official. And we also don’t like the people who are writing on buildings ‘Jews live here,’” because these forces, these quasi-fascist forces—let’s address this issue, because the last time I was on your broadcast, you found some guy somewhere who said there was none of this there. All right. What percent are the quasi-fascists of the opposition? Let’s say they’re 5 percent. I think they’re more, but let’s give them the break, 5 percent. But we know from history that when the moderates lose control of the situation, they don’t know what to do. The country descends in chaos. Five percent of a population that’s tough, resolute, ruthless, armed, well funded, and knows what it wants, can make history. We’ve seen it through Europe. We’ve seen it through Asia. This is reality. And where Washington and Brussels are on this issue, they won’t step up and take the responsibility.

359 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:47:12am

re: #356 Lidane

That is okay. I expect a lot of Photoshopped items regarding this story.

360 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:47:32am

Cohen also wrote that apologist BS for The Nation WRT to Putin/Russia/Obama.

361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:47:51am

re: #356 Lidane

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Is this not from Saddam’s palace?

362 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:51:01am

re: #360 Gus

Cohen also wrote that apologist BS for The Nation WRT to Putin/Russia/Obama.

Which his wife is the editor, publisher, and part-owner of.

363 Gus  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:51:36am

re: #362 wrenchwench

Which his wife is the editor, publisher, and part-owner of.

Gotta love the cronyism of the “alternative” press.

364 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:52:40am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Is this not from Saddam’s palace?

Graceland

365 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:56:31am
366 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:57:39am
367 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 10:03:20am

re: #358 Gus

And his analysis—so sharp, so spot on. NOT.

No “chaos” in Ukraine. The protestors won—everything so far, so let them sort it out in Parliament. Time will tell if real democracy flourishes in Ukraine, but this is a new beginning.

Cohen gets it entirely backwards since he appears to be a shill for Russia and the Iron Hand of Authoritarianism.

368 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 22, 2014 10:15:11am

re: #337 Justanotherhuman

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Love those pictures. Reminds me of the people swimming in Q’Daffy’s pool


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