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Buzzfeed: Al Jazeera Offered Julian Assange $1.3M for Diplomatic Cables

Corruption among the anarchists
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Today we learn (via Buzzfeed’s Rosie Gray) that Qatari news network Al Jazeera offered Julian Assange more than a million dollars for access to the diplomatic cables Wikileaks acquired in 2010.

And that’s not all; they also offered sexual favors.

In “Ghosted,” a story by Andrew O’Hagan in the London Review of Books about his experience ghostwriting an autobiography of Assange that was never published, he alleges that Al Jazeera offered Assange $1.3 million in exchange for WikiLeaks data.

“That night, a guy from al-Jazeera was talking to the group,” O’Hagan wrote of a night in January 2011. “The group was usually just Sarah, who lived there, and Joseph Farrell, a pleasant twenty-something whizz kid who came and went. Another guy, an activist and academic from Canberra University, was drinking wine and talking about how to mobilise the world. It turned out that the guy from al-Jazeera was hoping to strike a deal with WikiLeaks - that’s to say, with Julian. He was offering $1.3 million to get access (via encryption keys) to the data. He also wanted to organise a conference in Qatar on press freedom.”

According to James Ball, a former WikiLeaks employee, another meeting with Al Jazeera executives took place in December 2010 in the office of Mark Stephens, then Assange’s lawyer. Ball and WikiLeaks spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson represented Assange’s side, while two high-level Al Jazeera employees, one described as the “third-in-charge” and one introduced as the head of investigations, represented Al Jazeera, according to Ball.

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According to Ball, the Al Jazeera executives offered to fly the pair to Doha and “make us comfortable.” They offered other things too: “I remember a remark along the lines of noting the women there were very lovely, and very friendly,” Ball said.

At the end, one of the executives asked the men, “What would it take to make you happy?” Ball said.

Just another example of how this libertarian/anarchist ideology corrupts everything it touches.

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155 comments

1 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:22:42am

I guess the Russians shot down that deal.

2 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:23:08am

Why sell if off when he can selectively release it and thus embarrass the US and her allies for his master’s benefit?

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:23:53am
At the end, one of the executives asked the men, “What would it take to make you happy?” Ball said.

In the end, they’re all just slimy used care salesmen with fancier trappings.

4 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:28:00am

Guess this means no Al Jazeera birthday bash celebration for Snowden Assange.

5 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:29:08am

“Sexual favors?” Makes me more convinced than ever that this entitled dickwad did what those women in Sweden are alleging.

6 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:31:41am

Marcy Wheeler at Firedoglake offered Assange a 1975 AMC Hornet instead. //

7 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:33:12am

I wonder how long it will take the Ecuadoran foreign ministry to wise up to this scam? Assange has been essentially imprisoned in the Ecuadoran Embassy in London (a second story office suite) since June 19th 2012. The pop-left regime in Ecuador would probably like to emulate Venezuela and Cuba, but they don’t have the power to suppress the opposition as effectively. That opposition is bound to use Assange against the government in every way possible. When, and if, the government decides they’ve had enough, Assange is likely to find himself defenestrated (thrown out the window) right into the waiting arms of Scotland Yard.

8 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:33:17am

Pay to play.

AJ was looking to get into the ballgame, and gave an offer, which Wikileaks/Assange didn’t want. It makes you wonder just what kind of monetary offer would have been accepted.

It also sheds light on how AJ operates and how we need to be wary about the sources overseas where the rules are quite different.

It also sheds light on Assange and Wikileaks in that they were apparently shopping their ill-gotten gains to the highest bidder.

Don’t think for a moment that Greenwald wasn’t paying attention. They’ve decided that it’s better to release stuff in drips and drabs since they can spill ink by the kilo-word while retaining absolute control over the documents to spin them furiously against the US and its interests.

9 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:33:19am

Heard some woman on NPR from ProPublica (who reports on “security” issues) talking about airport security and how she (aside from being so fucking paranoid about “privacy issues”) would rather be pat down than go through a scan where a picture of her skeleton would be stored somewhere “forever”, according to her. Having someone’s hands all over me isn’t my idea of fun, though, so that can work 2 ways.

I didn’t hear the first part or most of the interview as I was running errands, but she did say something else about how she had cut down on her use of teh Google and its various usages, such as search engine, gmail, etc because of “privacy issues”.

BTW, did you know that the guy who started PP and heads it up even today, Paul Steiger, was the former managing editor for The Wall St. Journal? No doubt he knows his way very well around the monied class for funding.

10 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:37:06am

re: #6 Gus

Marcy Wheeler at Firedoglake offered Assange a 1975 AMC Hornet instead. //

How about a 1974 Pinto with a full tank of gas?
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11 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:39:40am

In the meantime, what are the chances of making the Ecuadoran Embassy a regular stop for London sightseeing tours? Tourists could get out of the bus to gawk at Assange on his balcony and throw peanuts at him.

12 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:40:20am

It really says something that we hear a story like this, when the “Information deserves to be free!” douchebags are the ones sitting on piles of documents they say people deserve to see…but only in drips and drabs and only at their discretion. You’d almost think they’re nothing but a bunch of attention whores…

13 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:42:07am

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

Heard some woman on NPR from ProPublica (who reports on “security” issues) talking about airport security and how she (aside from being so fucking paranoid about “privacy issues”) would rather be pat down than go through a scan where a picture of her skeleton would be stored somewhere “forever”, according to her. Having someone’s hands all over me isn’t my idea of fun, though, so that can work 2 ways.

I didn’t hear the first part or most of the interview as I was running errands, but she did say something else about how she had cut down on her use of teh Google and its various usages, such as search engine, gmail, etc because of “privacy issues”.

BTW, did you know that the guy who started PP and heads it up even today, Paul Steiger, was the former managing editor for The Wall St. Journal? No doubt he knows his way very well around the monied class for funding.

He was paid $571,687 in 2008. His base salary is $550,000/year. ProPublica is also currently getting funding through a grant from the John Arnold Foundation ($2 million).

14 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:42:53am

re: #12 Targetpractice

It really says something that we hear a story like this, when the “Information deserves to be free!” douchebags are the ones sitting on piles of documents they say people deserve to see…but only in drips and drabs and only at their discretion. You’d almost think they’re nothing but a bunch of attention whores…

Already been said by others but it is theft for profit in the name of Journalism. Or more accurately to be using Journalism claims to cloak the criminality.

15 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:44:07am

BTW, Steiger is a trustee of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, based in Miami, that funds efforts to enhance journalism and the functioning of American communities. From 1999 to 2007, he was a member of the Pulitzer Prize Board, serving as its chairman in his final year.

PP has received funding from the JS&JLKF, and 2 Pulitzers. Hmm. Incestuous much?

ETA link: propublica.org

16 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:45:20am

re: #15 Justanotherhuman

BTW, Steiger is a trustee of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, based in Miami, that funds efforts to enhance journalism and the functioning of American communities. From 1999 to 2007, he was a member of the Pulitzer Prize Board, serving as its chairman in his final year.

PP has received funding from the JS&JLKF, and 2 Pulitzers. Hmm. Incestuous much?

This could be your first page. ;)

17 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:46:07am

Oh boy, I got a “Pink Swastika” troofer.

18 Lidane  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:47:42am

re: #17 Kragar

Oh geez. I have a conservative friend who actually takes Doughy Pantload seriously. He’s been talking up that “Liberal Fascism” shit lately, too. WTF.

19 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:50:06am

re: #18 Lidane

Oh geez. I have a conservative friend who actually takes Doughy Pantload seriously. He’s been talking up that “Liberal Fascism” shit lately, too. WTF.

Liberal Fascism is an oxymoron. I find it funny that they do that but ignore that their own kind were quite sympathetic to the ideals of fascism in the 30’s. I mean if the left were so fascist, we would have evidence of leftists praising Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco. I said it downstairs but is it any wonder that the groups outside of Jews “they” came for in the famous poem by Pastor Nimholler (trade unions, social democrats, and communists) are ideologically on the left and Jews were blamed for leftism to boot.

20 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:51:22am

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

I see her logic.

Pat-down once, versus the idea her x-ray/thingy will be save for an indeterminate amount of time, and possibly vulnerable to a leak or something.

21 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:53:55am

re: #20 The War TARDIS

I see her logic.

Pat-down once, versus the idea her x-ray/thingy will be save for an indeterminate amount of time, and possibly vulnerable to a leak or something.

What, a skeleton? You wouldn’t know her from anyone other woman in that case unless you had something with which to compare it.

22 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:55:27am

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

What, a skeleton? You wouldn’t know her from anyone other woman in that case unless you had something with which to compare it.

She could be Ann Coulter for all you know.

23 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:57:21am

re: #18 Lidane

Oh geez. I have a conservative friend who actually takes Doughy Pantload seriously. He’s been talking up that “Liberal Fascism” shit lately, too. WTF.

To be fair, though, Goldberg doesn’t buy into the ‘Pink Swastika’ lie. But Liberal Fascism is a bad book whose premise stand thoroughly refuted.

24 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:58:28am

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

What, a skeleton? You wouldn’t know her from anyone other woman in that case unless you had something with which to compare it.

The scanner might harm her subdermal brain slug.

25 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:59:11am

re: #6 Gus

Marcy Wheeler at Firedoglake offered Assange a 1975 AMC Hornet instead. //

He missed out on an awesome deal!

26 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:01:29am

re: #18 Lidane

Oh geez. I have a conservative friend who actually takes Doughy Pantload seriously. He’s been talking up that “Liberal Fascism” shit lately, too. WTF.

The entire premise of Doughy Pantload’s book is that anything and everything remotely bad is “Liberal Fascism”.

27 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:01:55am

Imagine my surprise to see this in the Pando article:

Quoting Haaretz

“Ukrainian Rabbi Moshe Reuven Azman, called on Kiev’s Jews to leave the city and even the country if possible, fearing that the city’s Jews will be victimized in the chaos, Israeli daily Maariv reported Friday.

“‘I told my congregation to leave the city center or the city all together and if possible the country too,’ Rabbi Azman told Maariv. ‘I don’t want to tempt fate,’ he added, ‘but there are constant warnings concerning intentions to attack Jewish institutions.’”

PANDO: Sounds scary in a Schindler’s List sorta way, doesn’t it? Later that day, Ha’aretz published this correction, admitting it’d been duped by a Kremlin tool:

“Correction (Feb. 22, 4:20 P.M.): An earlier version of this report incorrectly described Rabbi Azman as the chief rabbi of Ukraine. Azman is not the country’s chief rabbi, but one of two rabbis challenging the official chief rabbi, Yaakov Bleich, in Kiev, and like most Chabad rabbis, is aligned with the Kremlin.”

My son would be very surprised to learn that he is “aligned with the Kremlin” when he was asked to leave in 2009.

Also, Haaretz has removed the bolded section from its article because like WAY TO GO ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF JEWS IN THE UKRAINE YOU FUCKBAGS but Pando gleefully goes on:

(If you want to read more about Chabad, read Yasha Levine’s investigative report on the right-wing Jewish cult, and its role in Cory Booker’s rise to power.) [Link not embedded, don’t read that sickening shit]

HURR HURR CORY BOOKER IS A TOOL OF TEH JUICE!!!!!

28 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:02:47am

Quick O/T:

After a month, sales of the Tales of Zo collection have been anemic, at best. Furthermore, my publisher cannot take advantage of the ebook promotion tools on Amazon until it has at least 5 reviews there.

It’d be doing me and the other authors a solid if people could post some reviews there. Just be honest about what you think of the stories within, that’s all I ask.

Thanks!

29 darthstar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:05:04am
30 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:06:15am

re: #29 darthstar

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You know, you could have actually read the bill rather than being a hack for anti-gay bigots. Nah, that’s too much work.

31 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:06:30am

re: #27 Pie-onist Overlord

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Imagine my surprise to see this in the Pando article:

Sounds scary in a Schindler’s List sorta way, doesn’t it?

Later that day, Ha’aretz published this correction, admitting it’d been duped by a Kremlin tool:

My son would be very surprised to learn that he is aligned with the Kremlin when he was asked to leave in 2009.

Also, Haaretz has removed the bolded section from its article because like WAY TO GO ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF JEWS IN THE UKRAINE YOU FUCKBAGS but Pando gleefully goes on:

HURR HURR CORY BOOKER IS A TOOL OF TEH JUICE!!!!!

Mark Ames is a dick.

32 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:08:02am

re: #29 darthstar

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In other words, he doesn’t have a problem with what he thought the bill was going to do, he has a problem with the ridicule that has descended upon the state in the wake of his vote.

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:08:19am

re: #31 Gus

Some blockquotes ran away.

34 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:09:42am

re: #27 Pie-onist Overlord

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Imagine my surprise to see this in the Pando article:

Sounds scary in a Schindler’s List sorta way, doesn’t it?

Later that day, Ha’aretz published this correction, admitting it’d been duped by a Kremlin tool:

My son would be very surprised to learn that he is “aligned with the Kremlin” when he was asked to leave in 2009.

Also, Haaretz has removed the bolded section from its article because like WAY TO GO ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF JEWS IN THE UKRAINE YOU FUCKBAGS but Pando gleefully goes on:

HURR HURR CORY BOOKER IS A TOOL OF TEH JUICE!!!!!

Well, at least you people didn’t tie up the GWB.

35 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:09:52am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

Some blockquotes ran away.

Saw that. Wheeee. Let me fix.

36 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:10:40am

Nugent has started talking about the race war.


Please proceed GOP

37 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:11:47am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

Some blockquotes ran away.

If you go here you can see the money behind PandoDaily, Mark Ames, etc.

38 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:12:33am

re: #36 Kragar

Nugent has started talking about the race war.

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Please proceed GOP

I don’t think he understand what Nazi Germany actually was. Just as I don’t expect him to understand that calling the president sub-human isn’t okay.

39 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:13:24am

re: #36 Kragar

Nugent has started talking about the race war.

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Please proceed GOP

White supremacists (of which Nugent is one) are always blathering about the coming race war. If we didn’t have one in the late 60s/early 70s, we sure as hell ain’t having one now.

40 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:13:41am

re: #36 Kragar

Nugent has started talking about the race war.

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Please proceed GOP

So Nugent is afraid that all the shit that white folks have visited on minorities in this nation for 200+ years is now going to be returned in kind as whites become the minority.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:13:45am
42 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:15:14am

re: #36 Kragar

Nugent has started talking about the race war.

Please proceed GOP

[Poopy Pants]: “There was an incrementalism to what happened in Germany and other places historically, where they came in slowly. And they started, you know, the power struggle between the different races, and the power struggle between different elements of society. And they incrementally worked their way in. And I think that’s what Obamacare is, that’s what I think most of what he represents. “

What a fucking douche.

43 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:15:23am

re: #36 Kragar

Nugent has started talking about the race war.

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Please proceed GOP

So does that mean Ted Nugent will be taking the lead in a Skrewdriver homage band?

*headdesk*

44 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:15:54am

Why would a “right-wing cult” want to elect a liberal Democrat?

HURR HURR THOSE SNEAKY ZIONISTS ARE SNEAKY!!!!11!!

45 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:16:52am

re: #42 Dr. Matt

[Poopy Pants]: “There was an >incrementalism to what happened in Germany and other places historically, where they came in slowly. And they started, you know, the power struggle between the different races, and the power struggle between different elements of society. And they incrementally worked their way in. >And I think that’s what Obamacare is, that’s what I think most of what he represents. “

What a fucking douche.

Fucking douche is being kind to the asshole. It’s health care reform, Ted for fuck sake. Maybe if you weren’t so obsessed with guns and calling people subhuman all the time, you’d read what it actually is and what Nazi Germany actually was too but no you’re juts a pathetic pony that GOP politicians use to rile up the base.

46 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:17:25am

re: #42 Dr. Matt

[Poopy Pants]: “There was an >incrementalism to what happened in Germany and other places historically, where they came in slowly. And they started, you know, the power struggle between the different races, and the power struggle between different elements of society. And they incrementally worked their way in. >And I think that’s what Obamacare is, that’s what I think most of what he represents. “

What a fucking douche.

I laughed myself silly the other day when a wingnut tried to argue that “incementalism” BS, about how the Nazis came to power little by little. It’s so historically ignorant that I don’t know where to begin.

47 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:17:29am

“Just like the Nazis!” is a code for “I have no ideas about what the Nazis actually did, but I know it was pretty bad.”

48 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:18:28am

re: #46 Targetpractice

I laughed myself silly the other day when a wingnut tried to argue that “incementalism” BS, about how the Nazis came to power little by little. It’s so historically ignorant that I don’t know where to begin.

My favorite is when they call Obama Hitler yet demand that we impeach him. Like that would be somehow possible if Obama was you know Hitler.

49 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:19:05am
50 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:19:09am

re: #47 Kragar

“Just like the Nazis!” is a code for “I have no ideas about what the Nazis actually did, but I know it was pretty bad.”

Remember when Glenn Beck likened empathy to Nazism? I damn near peed myself. Yes, the Nazis were evil because they thought about how others may feel!

51 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:19:37am

re: #42 Dr. Matt

What a fucking douche.

He also knows nothing about how Hitler came to power and about the political situation in 1939 Europe in general. It was not a “power struggle between the different races”, it was that Germany under Hitler was aggressive and predatory and decided to eliminate everyone who was not sufficiently ‘Aryan’ with reach.

Pants-shitter produces sick-ass shit.

52 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:20:33am

Well, it’s true that I always make the applicant stand and join in the Horst Wessel Lied when we complete an ACA enrollment.

53 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:21:28am

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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Greenwald has contempt for US gov’t refusing to publish top secret documents, still holds a mountain of top secret documents that he will only release when and how he chooses.

54 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:21:33am

re: #52 Decatur Deb

Well, it’s true that I always make the applicant stand and join in the Horst Wessel Lied when we complete an ACA enrollment.

You make them say Sieg Obama too don’t you?

55 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:21:48am

I want to embed a video in a Page, but it auto-starts. Can I disable that?

56 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:21:48am

White supremacists: a person who is terribly afraid that in the future they’ll be treated the same way they treated minorities in the past.

57 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:21:53am

58 darthstar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:22:06am

Of course, Arizona doesn’t just hate teh ghey…they can’t stand any variables.
And he said the program uses “fuzzy math,” substituting letters for numbers in some examples.

59 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:22:23am

I’d call Nugent a moron but that would be unfair to the hard working morons.

60 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:22:28am

There is no insurance carrier called “Obamacare” so he can’t “not accept it”

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:23:17am

re: #58 darthstar

Of course, Arizona doesn’t just hate teh ghey…they can’t stand any variables.
And he said the program uses “fuzzy math,” substituting letters for numbers in some examples.

Does that mean that all programs that use hexadecimal coding are now illegal in Arizona?
O_o

62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:24:04am

The GOP had a chance to put a lid on this sort of Ted rhetoric in 2010 but they were afraid of getting shouted down at a Town Hall Rally by some goombah with a Gadsen flag and a tri-cornered hat.

By allowing these sort of statements to go unchalleneged, they started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and we are nowhere near the nadir of it.

And when we see Ted Cruz up defending Ted’s statements, we know that it is really going to spiral downwards even more rapidly, to the point that none of these people are going to be taken seriously outside the RWNJ bubble.

63 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:24:48am

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

He also knows nothing about how Hitler came to power and about the political situation in 1939 Europe in general. It was >not a “power struggle between the different races”, it was that Germany under Hitler was aggressive and predatory and decided to eliminate everyone who was not sufficiently ‘Aryan’ with reach.

Pants-shitter produces sick-ass shit.

Yeah, but, it sounds cooler to equate health care reform to Nazis.

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64 b.d.  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:25:46am

re: #57 Gus

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Mr. Greenwald just doen’t look like a very healthy 46 year old

65 Lidane  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:26:09am

re: #36 Kragar

Nugent has started talking about the race war.

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Please proceed GOP

And Greg Abbott here in Texas willingly campaigned with him. Fun times.

66 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:26:26am

re: #57 Gus

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OSHA requires a 2 inch foam ball on each terminus of that sort of ‘do.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:27:10am

re: #28 chadu

Quick O/T:

After a month, sales of the Tales of Zo collection have been anemic, at best. Furthermore, my publisher cannot take advantage of the ebook promotion tools on Amazon until it has at least 5 reviews there.

It’d be doing me and the other authors a solid if people could post some reviews there. Just be honest about what you think of the stories within, that’s all I ask.

Thanks!

Just bought it and had it delivered to my husband’s Kindle. I’ll see if I can also download it to one of my non-Kindle readers so I can read it, too (especially since hubs isn’t scheduled to return home until end of the week).

68 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:27:23am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Yeah, but, it sounds cooler to equate health care reform to Nazis.

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Healthcare? NAZIS!

Gun Control? NAZIS!

Business regulations? NAZIS!

Increasing taxes? NAZIS!

Hoarding guns and ammo and engaging in rants about eliminating your political and ideological opponents in a bloody coup? Patriotism.
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69 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:28:12am

re: #57 Gus

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A picture is indeed worth a thousand words. There’s the libertarian movement in a nutshell: an old white guy, a freak, and a guy with a mohawk.

70 Lidane  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:28:58am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

If I walked into a doctor’s office and saw that, I’d immediately walk out the door and find another doctor. That one is clearly an idiot.

71 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:29:24am
72 HappyWarrior  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:30:14am

re: #71 Gus

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73 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:30:30am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

There is no insurance carrier called “Obamacare” so he can’t “not accept it”

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I think I hit a nerve.

74 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:31:01am

re: #57 Gus

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You should so photoshop that hair onto GG…

75 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:31:01am

re: #73 Kragar

I think I hit a nerve.

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You should ask him for instructions. //

76 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:31:21am

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Maybe we should make a list of things and people Glenn Greenwald _doesn’t_ have contempt for. It would be much shorter.

#1. Unicorns.

77 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:31:27am

They get so butthurt when you squash their precious memes and fake quotes.

78 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:32:21am

re: #74 Justanotherhuman

You should so photoshop that hair onto GG…

The Dudebro With The Dragon Tattoo.

79 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:32:23am

re: #47 Kragar

“Just like the Nazis!” is a code for “I have no ideas about what the Nazis actually did, but I know it was pretty bad.”

They tore the “Do Not Remove Under Penalty of Law!” tags from all the pillows!

/

80 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:32:27am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

There is no insurance carrier called “Obamacare” so he can’t “not accept it”

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I doubt he will get all that many patients, then.

81 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:33:09am

re: #76 chadu

Maybe we should make a list of things and people Glenn Greenwald _doesn’t_ have contempt for. It would be much shorter.

#1. Unicorns.

#2. Pillow Mouth

[This was the actual phrase used, not ‘pillow lips’.]

82 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:33:23am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

There is no insurance carrier called “Obamacare” so he can’t “not accept it”

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Yes, but does he barter medical treatment for chickens?

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83 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:33:27am

re: #58 darthstar

Of course, Arizona doesn’t just hate teh ghey…they can’t stand any variables.
And he said the program uses “fuzzy math,” substituting letters for numbers in some examples.

[Embedded content]

I liked it the first time they did that and called it “algebra.”

84 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:33:35am

re: #73 Kragar

I think I hit a nerve.

He’s telling you to ‘FOH’ and ‘go fist yourself’, but YOU’RE the one that is “angry”. Jebus,

85 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:35:25am
86 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:35:32am

re: #83 chadu

I liked it the first time they did that and called it “algebra.”

They probably think abandoning Roman numerals was a mistake.
//
(Not to mention even leaving the trees in the first place.)

87 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:35:48am

re: #81 wrenchwench

#1. Unicorns.

#2. Pillow Mouth

#3. Snuggies

88 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:36:28am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just bought it and had it delivered to my husband’s Kindle. I’ll see if I can also download it to one of my non-Kindle readers so I can read it, too (especially since hubs isn’t scheduled to return home until end of the week).

Thankee kindly!

You are a scholar and a ladle. (And your hubs is a jellyspoon.)*

* Heard Izzard use, “Good evening, ladles and jellyspoons…” once, and it stuck. Also Bruce Willis on Moonlighting saying “Hey there mambo kats and kittens…”

89 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:38:03am

re: #68 Kragar

Healthcare? NAZIS!

Gun Control? NAZIS!

Business regulations? NAZIS!

Increasing taxes? NAZIS!

Hoarding guns and ammo and engaging in rants about eliminating your political and ideological opponents in a bloody coup? Patriotism.
///

You can also replace the bolded with “with violent intimidation and assault,” too.

90 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:38:15am

By the way, Charles, massive kudos for the drag-and-drop photo feature for tweets.

91 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:38:38am
92 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:39:24am

re: #71 Gus

How would the doctor even KNOW if someone got their insurance under their carrier because of Obamacare?

Serious question.

93 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:39:43am

re: #86 Feline Fearless Leader

They probably think abandoning Roman numerals was a mistake.
//
(Not to mention even leaving the trees in the first place.)

“WE DIDN’T COME FROM NO TREES!”

94 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:40:00am

re: #92 chadu

How would the doctor even >KNOW if someone got their insurance under their carrier because of Obamacare?

Serious question.

Because shut up.

95 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:40:47am

re: #84 Dr. Matt

He’s telling you to ‘FOH’ and ‘go fist yourself’, but YOU’RE the one that is “angry”. Jebus,

What’s FOH? “Fuck off, hummus?”

96 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:11am

re: #91 Gus

[Embedded content]

The Pentagon’s trying to sell the Air Force’s mad desire to axe the A-10 fleet as “cost-savings.”

97 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:23am

re: #92 chadu

How would the doctor even >KNOW if someone got their insurance under their carrier because of Obamacare?

Serious question.

The barcode tattoo is a dead giveaway.

98 Mattand  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:28am
99 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:48am

re: #86 Feline Fearless Leader

They probably think abandoning Roman numerals was a mistake.
//
(Not to mention even leaving the trees in the first place.)

I don’t want to use no Ay-rab numbahs! I’ll use Amurrican numbers, just like Jeezus did!

100 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:50am

re: #92 chadu

How would the doctor even >KNOW if someone got their insurance under their carrier because of Obamacare?

Serious question.

He wouldn’t. Blue Cross is the only provider in our part of the exchange. They offer 7 plans.

101 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:55am

re: #58 darthstar

Of course, Arizona doesn’t just hate teh ghey…they can’t stand any variables.
And he said the program uses “fuzzy math,” substituting letters for numbers in some examples.

[Embedded content]

What.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:41:55am

re: #92 chadu

How would the doctor even >KNOW if someone got their insurance under their carrier because of Obamacare?

Serious question.

“You don’t look like you can afford that insurance you claim to have…”

/wish I was kidding…

103 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:42:17am

Are Dudebro’s also getting paid to write against the Ukrainian opposition?

104 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:43:17am

re: #94 Kragar

Because shut up.

Oh, that clears it up.

Thanks Tea Party Dan!

105 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:43:23am

This tells you something about the accuracy of the rest of his Tweets.

106 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:44:01am

re: #97 Dr. Matt

The barcode tattoo is a dead giveaway.

Mine clearly reads 9-9-9.

107 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:44:11am

WTFITS

108 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:44:31am

re: #91 Gus

Is this the 3rd, or 4th time that the USAF has tried to dump the A-10? Close ground support isn’t glamorous enough for them, and they still don’t want the Army to get a foothold in fixed wing aviation for carrying out a necessary mission profile.

Dumping the A-10 is also pressure for adopting the F-35 since you need the strike aircraft.

109 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:11am

re: #91 Gus

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110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:13am

re: #107 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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In an ideal world, election results = democracy and the will of the people.

But ask any Wingnut what they think of the results of the 2008 and 2012 elections in the USA

111 darthstar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:13am
112 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:20am

re: #98 Mattand

And people (who previously couldn’t) effectively giving him money.

But, Tea Party Dan, I thought money was the highest good, after guns and Jeezus?

113 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:23am

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

Dumping the A-10 is also pressure for adopting the F-35 since you need the strike aircraft.

If only it worked.

114 darthstar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:52am

re: #106 chadu

Mine clearly reads 9-9-9.

You’re holding it upside down, Satan worshipper.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:45:56am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

In an ideal world, election results = democracy and the will of the people.

But ask any Wingnut what they think of the results of the 2008 and 2012 elections in the USA

YANUKOVICH WON TEH ELECTION!!!!! HE IS TEH PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!!!11!!!!

116 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:46:02am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

He wouldn’t. Blue Cross is the only provider in our part of the exchange. They offer 7 plans.

That’s what mine is; one of them.

117 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:46:08am

re: #113 Kragar

If only it worked.

The A and B versions have wings the size of an F-104.

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:47:31am

WTFITFS (retweeted by Max Blumenthal)

119 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:47:32am

Considering the relatively low-cost, long shelf-life, and easy maintenance of the A-10, that platform has been a massive, cost-effective, success.

120 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:47:42am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

Are Dudebro’s also getting paid to write against the Ukrainian opposition?

Probably. Would fit most of the other activities in that they attack the US and Europe at every opportunity. Ukraine opposition is definitely not pro-Russia at this point, so they would be fair game. And I would bet in the opposition groups that beyond “Yanuk must go” you could probably find a mess of preferred policies that conflict all over the spectrum.

121 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:48:07am

So. Right wing blogs get paid to write for the Ukraine government and Yanko. Today we find the far-left suddenly against recent events. What’s the deal here?

122 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:48:45am

re: #90 Dr. Matt

By the way, Charles, massive kudos for the drag-and-drop photo feature for tweets.

[Embedded image]


Wow, it works!

123 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:02am

re: #117 Gus

The A and B versions have wings the size of an F-104.

Baaaaa-ba-ba-baaaa, Baaaaa-ba-ba-ba-aaaah-ah

Youtube Video

124 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:07am

re: #121 Gus

So. Right wing blogs get paid to write for the Ukraine government and Yanko. Today we find the far-left suddenly against recent events. What’s the deal here?

It’s Max Blumenthal?

125 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:14am

re: #117 Gus

The A and B versions have wings the size of an F-104.

And carrying the sort of load that the A-10 can requires pylons, which kills the stealth advantage that’s already questionable. Warthogs have come back with holes blown through wings, engines missing, and relying upon manual backups after two sets of hydraulics have failed. The pilots sit in a titanium bathtub rated to take hits from 23mm shells and keep them alive. The F-35 is a piss-poor “replacement.”

126 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:16am

re: #114 darthstar

You’re holding it upside down, Satan worshipper.

Or else he worships Cain.
/

127 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:35am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITFS (retweeted by Max Blumenthal)

[Embedded content]

@ARodTen

Don’t Mess with Texans, especially Muslim Texans!! #GOP Conservative, USArmy, RTNEE, Scholarly Medic. TROUBLE NO ONE ABOUT THEIR RELIGION, especially mine. #BDS

128 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:47am

re: #114 darthstar

I knew the Lizardim wouldn’t leave a straight line like that just hanging out there.

For darthstar, for renewing my faith in humanity lizardity:

129 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:49:47am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITFS (retweeted by Max Blumenthal)

[Embedded content]

Herzl haz a sad.

130 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:50:32am

re: #124 Justanotherhuman

It’s Max Blumenthal?

And his Dudebro besties at Pando.

131 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:50:39am

re: #122 wrenchwench

Wow, it works!

Charles is going to make us lazy with all the drag and drop features.

132 Mattand  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:51:20am

re: #73 Kragar

I think I hit a nerve.

[Embedded content]

The guy is starting to have a meltdown because it’s being pointed out he and the “good” doctor don’t know what they’re talking about.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:51:49am

Max Blumenthal & his Dudebro besties has a sad that they can’t blame Ukrainian problem on Teh Juice. But, where there’s a will, there’s a way.

134 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:52:09am

re: #128 chadu

CONTEXT!

135 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:52:10am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

Are Dudebro’s also getting paid to write against the Ukrainian opposition?

[Embedded content]

I have seen none of this. Where is MB getting his information, Moscow?

“White supremacist banners and Confederate flags were draped inside Kiev’s occupied City Hall, and demonstrators have hoisted Nazi SS and white power symbols over a toppled memorial to V.I. Lenin. After Yanukovich fled his palatial estate by helicopter, EuroMaidan protesters destroyed a memorial to Ukrainians who died battling German occupation during World War II. Sieg heil salutes and the Nazi Wolfsangel symbol have become an increasingly common site in Maidan Square, and neo-Nazi forces have established “autonomous zones” in and around Kiev.”

No doubt there are rightwing elements in this revolution, but there are plenty of democratic types—ideologies cut a wide swatch across the political spectrum.

136 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:53:06am

re: #107 Pie-onist Overlord

Especially since the Palestinians didn’t particularly care much for the 2006 election of Hamas either (there was a Palestinian civil war too - complete with defenestrations and executions of captured members of the opposing forces, where Hamas threw Fatah out of Gaza, and Fatah effectively did the same to Hamas in the West Bank).

Hamas now controls Gaza, Fatah the West Bank, and the two Palestinian parties still can’t agree on forming a new government/elections to unify their position.

137 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:55:47am

re: #134 chadu

CONTEXT!

[Embedded image]

Read the first 3 books and said, “Meh.”

138 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:57:04am

HURR HURR!!!! CALLING PEOPLE TEH ANTI-SEMITE IS WORSER THEN TEH ANTI-SEMITISM!!!! THEY ARE ONLY TELLING TEH TROOF ABOUT TEH JUICE!!!! AND TEH JUICE PERSECUTES THEM BY CALLIN THEM TEH ANTI-SEMITES!!!!! THEN THERE FEELINGS IS HURTZ!!!!!!

139 Gus  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:57:31am

Civil War? Coup? Fascism? Ukraine’s Unrest Provokes Inflammatory Language

…In Britain, the far-left-wing Eurosceptic electoral alliance No2EU described protesters as an “unholy alliance of conservatives, fascists, and revanchist groups promoting a cult around former Nazi collaborators.” 

On the front page of its February 21 edition, the Russian tabloid “Komsomolskaya Pravda” featured the headline: “After Capturing Ukraine, The Banderovtsi Will Aim For Russia.” Stepan Bandera was a leader of the Ukrainian nationalist movement from the early to mid-20th century, and “Banderovtsi” is often used as a derogatory term by Russians to describe Ukrainian nationalists.

In an article posted on February 7, the Bishkek-based information website gezitter.org equated Yanukovych’s future to two former Kyrgyz presidents. The headline reads: “Yanukovych equals Bakiev and Akaev combined.” Both Kurmanbek Bakiev and President Askar Akaev were ousted following antigovernment protests.

140 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 11:59:51am

re: #137 Kragar

Read the first 3 books and said, “Meh.”

Ever read Emma Bull’s _War For the Oaks_? It’s still urban fantasy, but still an interesting take on a bunch of the folk lore.

141 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:02:04pm

re: #140 Feline Fearless Leader

Ever read Emma Bull’s _War For the Oaks_? It’s still urban fantasy, but still an interesting take on a bunch of the folk lore.

Can’t say that I have.

142 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:02:55pm

re: #39 Ian G.

White supremacists (of which Nugent is one) are always blathering about the coming race war. If we didn’t have one in the late 60s/early 70s, we sure as hell ain’t having one now.

I hope you are right, and I understand what you are saying. But, if there is to be any race war in the future, it will be a bunch of white supremacists that will start it and want it carried out. Before their fear was ‘the blacks’ were getting angry and uppity and they might want to ‘kill whitey’ and so they had to arm themselves for the coming war. Now, sometimes it seems some of them are to the point where they might just want to start some stuff so they could get a little war going to show their ‘white power’ perceived strength.

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:05:23pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

I hope you are right, and I understand what you are saying. But, if there is to be any race war in the future, it will be a bunch of white supremacists that will start it and want it carried out. Before their fear was ‘the blacks’ were getting angry and uppity and they might want to ‘kill whitey’ and so they had to arm themselves for the coming war. Now, sometimes it seems some of them are to the point where they might just want to start some stuff so they could get a little war going to show their ‘white power’ perceived strength.

144 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:09:38pm

re: #137 Kragar

Read the first 3 books and said, “Meh.”

Indeed, book #4 was where it started getting good.

(Books #1-#3 were popcorn to me, enjoyable enough to read, each having one little thing — 1% — that shifted picking up the next book from coin-flip to “If there’s nothing I want more.” Book #4 is where DF went from being popcorn reading to chosen reading for me, if you dig.)

145 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:10:08pm

re: #119 Dr. Matt

Considering the relatively low-cost, long shelf-life, and easy maintenance of the A-10, that platform has been a massive, cost-effective, success.

The A-10 may be one of the ugliest crates that ever got airborne, but it’s worthiness as a weapon is unquestionable. I’d keep it, but that’s just me.

146 chadu  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:10:35pm

re: #141 Kragar

Can’t say that I have.

It’s good. Not one of my favorites, but worth the read.

147 The War TARDIS  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:11:36pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

The Air Force wants “sexy” planes.

Not workhorses that turn tanks into confetti, and can be beat half to death and still be usable.

148 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:12:31pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

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Yeah, real communists are known for never putting up a fight.
///

149 ObserverArt  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:13:14pm

re: #73 Kragar

I think I hit a nerve.

Oh well that changes everything. FOH. Angry Lib. Go fist yourself.

What a reasoned response. And you’re the angry lib.

150 Kragar  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:14:47pm

re: #146 chadu

It’s good. Not one of my favorites, but worth the read.

Currently in the middle of rereading some of my older 40k stuff, but for a good new series, check out “Ex-heroes” by Peter Clines. Setting is a super hero world which fell to a zombie apocalypse.

151 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:17:58pm

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

Is this the 3rd, or 4th time that the USAF has tried to dump the A-10? Close ground support isn’t glamorous enough for them, and they still don’t want the Army to get a foothold in fixed wing aviation for carrying out a necessary mission profile.

Dumping the A-10 is also pressure for adopting the F-35 since you need the strike aircraft.

Actually there’s a side-step going on the USAF is desperately trying to plug.

UCAVs.

Right now everyone gets to have them, and they’re approaching the point where they will make great A-10 replacements.

The secondary fear for the USAF is that they’re also approaching the point where they can do a lot of air superiority missions as well. And if the choice is a multi-million dollar uber-fighter or a multitude of million dollar uber-ucavs, well, quantity has a quality all its own.

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:20:53pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

[Embedded content]

True.

Utterly STUPID by the zoomies but true.

Give the A10 the Army. We can do our own mud moving like the Marines and let the Air Farce play it’s games.

153 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:22:07pm

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

Is this the 3rd, or 4th time that the USAF has tried to dump the A-10? Close ground support isn’t glamorous enough for them, and they still don’t want the Army to get a foothold in fixed wing aviation for carrying out a necessary mission profile.

Dumping the A-10 is also pressure for adopting the F-35 since you need the strike aircraft.

Unfortunately all the F35s will never be worth even one broken A10.

154 DesertDenizen  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 12:46:42pm

#137 Kragar

Read the first 3 books and said, “Meh.â€

Ever read Emma Bull’s _War For the Oaks_? It’s still urban fantasy, but still an interesting take on a bunch of the folk lore.


One of my favorites. Emma used to be my parent’s neighbror here in Arizona. Nice lady.

155 jonhendry  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 1:01:53pm

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

“Dumping the A-10 is also pressure for adopting the F-35 since you need the strike aircraft.”

Not that the Air Force will want to risk their hugely expensive, maybe-not-so-reliable hangar queens on close air support, when it comes right down to it.


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