Breaking: AZ Gov. Jan Brewer Vetoes Anti-Gay “Religious Freedom” Bill

When even Jan Brewer thinks you’ve gone too far…
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Minutes ago, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer vetoed the SB1062 “religious freedom” pro-bigotry bill, pretending it was an act of principle instead of a result of the huge backlash.

That distant popping sound you hear is right wing heads exploding all over the Internets.

UPDATE at 2/26/14 5:28:23 pm

We have an early whine from Ben “Friends of Hamas” Shapiro:

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323 comments

1 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 4:58:47pm
2 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 4:59:34pm

HURR HURRRR!!!1!!!

3 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 4:59:55pm

And Todd Starnes being the moron he is thinks this makes Christians second class citizens. I guess Todd’s totally unaware that there are not only gay friendly Christians out there but also gay Christians themselves who would have been hurt by this law. But nah Todd just has to think that every Christian is as bigoted as his sorry wingnut ass.

4 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:00:03pm

I’d say Brewer just destroyed whatever support she had left amongst wingnuts, but she burned that bridge awhile back by taking up the fight to expand Medicaid in AZ.

5 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:00:16pm

Egg whines:

6 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:00:22pm

re: #2 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURRRR!!!1!!!

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What about basic human decency you Eddie Munster shithead.

7 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:00:36pm
8 Kid A  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:00:38pm

The GOP goes the way of the dinosaurs, one day at a time…

9 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:01:23pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Egg whines:

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Yeah how dare you point out that Brewer rightfully got pressure from the business interests that run her party on this. I am glad she vetoed it but she’s no hero. She should have threatened to veto it from the start.

10 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:01:29pm
11 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:02:49pm

posted here what I wrote downstairs:

Yeah Todd, by having to provide a business service to all and getting more profits in the process,

This is the part that I will never understand about these bigots. U.S. currency isn’t gay or straight, black or white or hispanic or asian or muslim or jewish or pastafarian. It all spends the same and buys the same amount of goods and services, stocks, bonds, whatever.

12 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:02:50pm

That distant popping sound you hear is right wing heads exploding all over the Internets.

Youtube Video

13 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:03:07pm
14 piratedan  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:03:21pm

re: #10 Lidane

good to know Michelle’s heart is in the right place, on the shelf in Hell, when she sold it to Satan for those magnificent eyes of hers.

15 Kid A  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:04:06pm
16 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:04:12pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Egg whines:

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Yeah Egg, you can go ahead and stuff it. She pretty much said out loud at the conference that the big concern on her mind is the economic consequences of signing this bill, namely the boycotts that AZ would be subject to.

17 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:04:26pm

re: #11 Rev_Arthur_Belling

posted here what I wrote downstairs:

This is the part that I will never understand about these bigots. U.S. currency isn’t gay or straight, black or white or hispanic or asian or muslim or jewish or pastafarian. It all spends the same and buys the same amount of goods and services, stocks, bonds, whatever.

It’s why it’s patently absurd to say vetoing this discriminates against people. Hell if anything, any good capitalist should be happy that this was vetoed but then against wingnuts understand capitalism about as well as they do socialism and marxism which is to say not a damn bit.

18 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:05:18pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Would that it stopped there. But it won’t, several other states are already looking at versions of the same bill. One or more will pass it, and then it’s off to the races.

19 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:05:22pm

Speculation from last thread. The announcement from the Hispanic National Bar Association may have scarred Brewer into acting earlier than she’d originally intended.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Hispanic National Bar Association on Wednesday said it cancelled its 2015 convention in Phoenix over legislation adding protections for people who assert their religious beliefs in refusing service to gays.

This is unprecedented, no? -> An unambiguous message of alliance by a major national Hispanic org on the issue of gay rights.

20 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:07:06pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Would that it stopped there. But it won’t, several other states are already looking at versions of the same bill. One or more will pass it, and then it’s off to the races.

Georgia is the one to worry about. Missouri thankfully has a Dem governor.

21 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:07:36pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Would that it stopped there. But it won’t, several other states are already looking at versions of the same bill. One or more will pass it, and then it’s off to the races Courts.

ftfy

Thank gawd saner heads prevailed in Idaho and killed Lukers bill.

22 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:08:32pm

re: #21 Bubblehead II

ftfy

Thank gawd saner heads prevailed in Idaho and killed Lukers bill.

That one really scared me. That was the one that would have allowed cops and doctors to refuse treatment to people because they were gay I believe. Scary shit.

23 aagcobb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:08:54pm

While I appreciate Jan Brewer doing the right thing, even if its for the wrong reasons here is a conservative who understands why allowing same-sex marriage is the right thing to do:

Creating and maintaining strong nuclear families is clearly in society’s best interests, but defining and enforcing it by government mandate is not. We need to face the fact that freedom can be messy and uncomfortable without being ruinous. This ruling did not cover performance of same sex marriages in Kentucky, only the recognition of those performed elsewhere. But the next ruling will surely address that. Supporting traditional marriage is still a right, it’s just not something we can resolve with the force of law. Protecting freedoms must be the focus of legal efforts and to the extent that it is, social issues such as this can be dealt with in ways that make us stronger. That is our real challenge going forward.

24 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:08:56pm

They’ll double up against abortion.

25 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:10:24pm

Glad she vetoed it for obvious reasons but also because the wingnut loud anger from the veto shows how pathetically out of touch they are.

26 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:11:16pm

Right on cue, the Freepers are outraged:

RINO HOMOSEXUALIST.
Time to boycott Arizona.

Jan Brewer will go down as a spineless homosexual ganglia. What a joke she was. They will not TRUMP GOD. Leviticus tells us what to do in the face of abomination.

God is in charge, I’m not worried, just pissed!

Brewer shows that she opposes the First Amendment in her veto of this bill. The next stage of this slippery slope is to force a God-fearing doctor to perform an abortion. The bill was a stand for freedom and liberty and was based upon the Eternal, Inerrant Word of God.

I guess Religious people of all faiths just need to get over their religious beliefs. Gays have all rights…..nobody else has any.

Absolutely pathetic.

What Brewer doesn’t realize that is it is never enough with these people. Already, they’re plotting and scheming to force AZ churches to recognize homosexual weddings.
And I’m done with the NFL. They can go piss up a rope.

When 3 percent of the population has more power than the 97 percent of us, that is when you know America has gone to hell in a hand basket

All you little people must make cakes for homosexuals, or else you will be shipped to the concentration camp… where you will make cakes for homosexuals.

At a point in time, probably within the next three years, the state will begin killing Christians. This was predicted by the Lord 2000 years ago. So it is not a surprise or problem…
…Then again, those killing Christians might have a problem in the U.S.

Just sayin’.

5.56mm

27 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:11:32pm

Too bad all those states that want to control women’s reproduction by passing vaginal probe legislation already have the business community on their side because it makes money.

Ethics and civil rights don’t mean as much these days as much as losing business does.

28 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:11:35pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

the wingnut loud anger from the veto shows how pathetically out of touch they are.

Well, they’re in touch with their base, anyway. The rest of society, however …

29 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:11:37pm

re: #15 Kid A

Reagan also increased the national debt - added $1.86 trillion, 186% increase to the $998 billion debt level at the end of Carter’s last budget, FY 1981.

30 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:11:51pm
31 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:13:33pm

re: #26 Lidane

Right on cue, the Freepers are outraged:

I wonder, do they realize how hysterical they sound. CHRISTIANS WILL BE KILLED! Why because you’re not allowed to turn away a prospective gay customer? Real Christians who have suffered real persecution would laugh at someone and then slap someone for saying such horse crap.

32 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:13:47pm

re: #28 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Well, they’re in touch with their base, anyway. The rest of society, however …

True.

33 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:14:18pm

re: #27 Justanotherhuman

Too bad all those states that want to control women’s reproduction by passing vaginal probe legislation already have the business community on their side because it makes money.

If Apple, the NFL, MLB and assorted other companies stood up against those laws as strongly as they did this one, I imagine tunes would change. Since most of those companies and leagues are run by old white men, I’m less than optimistic.

34 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:15:32pm

What the religious right still does not own, about the US Constitution and the laws of the US, is that commerce is done in the public sphere. This is different than our private lives and private organizations (e.g., “associations”.)

Again, SB1062 was trying to force a type of special treatment among the public sphere. This is the same issue that came up with the ACA, where the anti-ACA folk did not understand or simply did not want to understand the the US government can (and even must) manage the public sphere of our lives. The Chief Justice knew that about the ACA (which as he noted was a tax, no matter how elaborately constructed the collection scheme.)

35 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:15:53pm

re: #26 Lidane

Right on cue, the Freepers are outraged:

Which is why there are parts of the Internet I will not go. They’re like toy wind up dolls, with only a few phrases.

36 dog philosopher  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:16:38pm

I love how the anti-government conservatives want the government to fight their battles so they can hide behind religion and hate openly. Why are the 60s hippies so hateful?

my brain hurts

37 Zamb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:17:01pm

re: #26 Lidane

Homosexualist. Good to know they found another word with ist in it to add to the ever growing list of adjectives that prove how evil liberals are.

38 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:17:13pm

Again they make with the ‘Second Class Citizens’ shit?

39 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:18:12pm

re: #38 GeneJockey

Again they make with the ‘Second Class Citizens’ shit?

Of course, they’re the ultimate victims of big gay.

40 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:18:47pm
41 Shvaughn  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:19:07pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Well, the truth is she is a creep, regardless of this.

Arizona business community may have forced her to do the right thing, but Brewer’s still a terrible person and a horrible governor.

42 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:19:42pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Of course, they’re the ultimate victims of big gay.

First class citizen: Gets to shit all over everyone else.

Second class citizen: Everyone else.

So, I suppose by their definition they ARE second class citizens. Like everybody else.

43 Zamb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:20:03pm

In the wingnut mind they are simultaneously the majority and the minority.

44 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:21:08pm

re: #40 Kragar

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How DARE that sanctimonious shithead claim to speak for Christians! I know many who would tear him a new asshole for suggesting they’re bigoted shitheads like him.

45 Zamb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:21:22pm

re: #40 Kragar

Fuck I’m gonna go throw rocks at some of these assholes, when they call the cops I’ll cite Leviticus for some nonsense and accuse them of persecuting my religious beliefs because they hate good Christians like myself.

46 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:21:35pm

hahaha

47 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:22:08pm

So they’re just going to reintroduce it after the super bowl is over yeah?

48 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:22:21pm

He’s in the running for a top counter-terrorism post with the United Nations in Vienna, whut?

Lawyer tied to Ukraine’s Yanukovich says he’s cooperating with authorities

in.reuters.com

Don’t want to screw up your career?

“I am not a crook,” Proksch said in explaining his readiness to cooperate regarding his past work with top officials from the government of Yanukovich, who was ousted from power last weekend.”

49 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:22:26pm

re: #43 Zamb

In the wingnut mind they are simultaneously the majority and the minority.

The persecuted majority who hold all the reins of power, and most of the money.

My heart bleeds for them.

50 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:22:38pm

re: #45 Zamb

Fuck I’m gonna go throw rocks at some of these assholes, when they call the cops I’ll cite Leviticus for some nonsense and accuse them of persecuting my religious beliefs because they hate good Christians like myself.

Charge them with blasphemy for saying “Jehovah”?

51 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:22:46pm


Can we move on? How many other states are pursuing the same anti-gay discrimination legislation? More than just Arizona was busy attempting to legalize discrimination against gays in the name of “religious freedom”. Except religion doesn’t legitimize discrimination. And government actions supporting discrimination would be struck down as unconstitutional.

52 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:23:21pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

That one really scared me. That was the one that would have allowed cops and doctors to refuse treatment to people because they were gay I believe. Scary shit.

Go back to the late night dead thread. Subsection 3 of the law he was trying to amend prohibits this type of behavior.

53 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:23:48pm
To: Viennacon

My thoughts are not publishable…

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54 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:24:34pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Can we move on? How many other states are pursuing the same anti-gay discrimination legislation? More than just Arizona was busy attempting to legalize discrimination against gays in the name of “religious freedom”. Except religion doesn’t legitimize discrimination. And government actions supporting discrimination would be struck down as unconstitutional.

God McCain pisses me off sometimes. Shithead, your state’s not the only one with a bill like this in the works. So, no we won’t move on until your party stops equating discriminating against gay people with “religious liberty.”

55 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:24:40pm

re: #51 lawhawk

And cost the host states tons of money in order to hopelessly defend.

56 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:25:01pm

re: #50 Feline Fearless Leader

Charge them with blasphemy for saying “Jehovah”?

“Are there any WOMEN here?”

57 Shvaughn  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:25:26pm

re: #48 Justanotherhuman

“I am not a crook,” Proksch said

That always works well when someone says it.

58 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:25:31pm

re: #52 Bubblehead II

Go back to the late night dead thread. Subsection 3 of the law he was trying to amend prohibits this type of behavior.

Sorry my mistake. Thanks.

59 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:25:32pm

re: #55 SpaceJesus

And cost the host states tons of money in order to hopelessly defend.

But that’s fiscal responsibility™ for you.

60 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:26:23pm

Don’t think Brewer is still not an ignorant, rightwing shithead.

61 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:27:21pm

I wonder how all these assholes would feel about a Muslim diner owner refusing to serve people wearing crucifixes.

62 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:28:16pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Speculation from last thread. The announcement from the Hispanic National Bar Association may have scarred Brewer into acting earlier than she’d originally intended.

This is unprecedented, no? -> An unambiguous message of alliance by a major national Hispanic org on the issue of gay rights.

MEChA:

Chicanismo is the bond experienced by all members of M.E.Ch.A. Chicanismo is carnalismo: the responsibility and commitment to all Chican@ brothers and sisters throughout the university and community regardless of their age, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, or nationality. Chicanismo further implies having respect for Chican@ history, Chican@ culture and values. Therefore, the term Chican@ is grounded in a philosophy not nationality. To be Chican@ is not a birthright, rather it is a state of mind.

National Council of La Raza:

NCLR joined the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force last week for their annual Creating Change conference, which was held in Houston this year. The week-long event was jam packed with exciting plenary sessions, day-long institutes, dynamic workshops and top-notch networking.

63 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:28:50pm

This is kind of interesting….
Tesla: four states vie for 6,500-worker ‘Gigafactory’

Tesla says that Nevada, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico are all finalists for the plant, which would be powered largely by wind and solar energy. It would occupy up to 1,000 acres and start producing by 2017.

Leaning a bit towards red states. There might be a reason for that.
UAW plans to keep trying on Tesla workers’ representation

Tesla’s factory used to be a union shop when it was run as a joint venture between General Motors and Toyota Motor Co. It closed in 2010 and was bought by Tesla several months later.

Musk has said several times that he will remain neutral on unions. But in its annual report to shareholders, Tesla has described the possibility of unionization as a risk to its business.

64 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:29:52pm

Is Ben Shapiro smart enough to know he’s trying to pull a rhetorical trick to justify bigotry, or is he dense enough to believe this idiotic BS?

65 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:29:56pm
Furthermore, the bill is broadly worded and could result in unintended and negative consequences.

Which I take to mean that somebody might decide to discriminate against The Right Sort Of People, as opposed to Those People, and that wouldn’t be good.

66 Shvaughn  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:30:58pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

This is kind of interesting….
Tesla: four states vie for 6,500-worker ‘Gigafactory’

Leaning a bit towards red states. There might be a reason for that.

Yes, it’s called “plenty of wind and sunshine.”

67 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:31:12pm

re: #65 GeneJockey

Which I take to mean that somebody might decide to discriminate against The Right Sort Of People, as opposed to Those People, and that wouldn’t be good.

I think that is precisely right. That and Apple and the NFL pulling millions out of their economy.

68 bubba zanetti  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:31:27pm

cue bitter clinging…

69 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:31:49pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Is Ben Shapiro smart enough to know he’s trying to pull a rhetorical trick to justify bigotry, or is he dense enough to believe this idiotic BS?

He can’t be that dumb, he went to Harvard and is supposed to be an actual lawyer (but then, so is Mona).

But he is a fucking tool.

Oh and Mona is blocked for lame derp.

70 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:32:11pm
71 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:32:23pm

:D

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:33:09pm

re: #71 Gus

:D

I brought that to his attention. :)

73 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:33:25pm

re: #70 Gus

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When you have to go back half a century to find a time when your party were the good guys, you have a problem.

74 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:33:53pm

re: #70 Gus

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Yeah, I mean no one’s going to deny that the KKK founders were democrats but if you seriously think they were liberals, well I’ve got a bridge to sell you. It’s also funny because they rag on the modern democrats and left for embracing multiculturalism and the melting pot yet they want to pin the KKK on us. Pick a narrative eh.

75 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:33:59pm

re: #61 Petero1818

I wonder how all these assholes would feel about a Muslim diner owner refusing to serve people wearing crucifixes.

That’s the problem with a lot of these laws. It seems unimaginable to advocates that they will be universally and fairly applied by the courts. Hate Speech laws are the same way, advocates never really seem to grasp that the laws will apply to themselves as well.

76 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:34:25pm
77 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:34:51pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Albuquerque better not miss out on this one like it missed out on Microsoft

78 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:35:26pm

re: #73 GeneJockey

When you have to go back half a century to find a time when your party were the good guys, you have a problem.

It’s honestly sad to me that the Republicans grew more regressive over time. I mean I would have been a Kennedy/Johnson Dem had I been around back then but the GOP back then with some exceptions was an admirable party. Today though. Guys like Ike and pre-bitter Nixon have been replaced with the likes of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

79 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:35:45pm

re: #66 Shvaughn

Yes, it’s called “plenty of wind and sunshine.”

That too but I notice California isn’t on the list but that could just be high taxes.

80 bubba zanetti  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:36:21pm
81 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:36:27pm

re: #77 SpaceJesus

Albuquerque better not miss out on this one like it missed out on Microsoft

New Mexico could really use the investment.

82 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:36:54pm

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

I brought that to his attention. :)

I’m famous! Kidding. Told him “I made that” and he favorited the Tweet.

83 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:37:52pm

Thanks to you folks for mixing it up with Mona - I’m staying out of it. But remember that since she’s in my TweetDeck global mute I don’t see her tweets - just the responses to her from my followers.

84 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:38:02pm

re: #76 Gus

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I love those alternate headlines for the same story. It happens all the time, editors know how to get clicks without offended certain demographics.

85 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:38:03pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

That too but I notice California isn’t on the list but that could just be high taxes.

Or it could be the cheaper labor force, since nobody wants to live in those places.

Hint: where does Elon Musk live?

86 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:38:20pm
87 Zamb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:38:55pm

re: #70 Gus

Labels are more important than realities. If one democrat does something bad it means that all democrats forever share his sin. It’s the nonsense thinking behind declaring all liberals marxist fascist communist socialist islamo-seculars. Basically apply as many bad sounding words to the enemy as you can under flimsy pretext of slight similarities (i.e. Communists and U.S. liberals both believe the state has a role to play in society, but that what that role is differs quite a bit.) and you can then tie that enemy to all atrocities and wrongdoing done by any group associated with the word.

88 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:38:58pm

re: #51 lawhawk

Can we move on?

If there’s one thing I can safely say about the reactionary right wing, they never move on. Hell, some of them are still fighting the civil war.

89 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:39:03pm
90 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:39:33pm

re: #89 Gus

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Jan Brewer, RINO.

91 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:39:43pm

re: #85 GeneJockey

Or it could be the cheaper labor force, since nobody wants to live in those places.

Hint: where does Elon Musk live?

It’s a shame Detroit couldn’t get into the deal. They could have potentially revived their car industry.

92 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:40:06pm

re: #89 Gus

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Actually Todd, you are the one assuming that every Christian shares your hatred of gay people. So, no dice, grow a pair fuckwad.

93 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:40:29pm
94 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:41:03pm

re: #89 Gus

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How is it that my whole family is Christian (apart from my sister, who joined Teh Juice), but they don’t think they should treat gay people like shit because of it?

95 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:41:34pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Jan Brewer, RINO.

RINO Homosexualist, according to the Freepers. Heh.

96 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:41:41pm
97 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:42:01pm

re: #94 GeneJockey

How is it that my whole family is Christian (apart from my sister, who joined Teh Juice), but they don’t think they should treat gay people like shit because of it?

As I said, he’s projecting his own anti-gay bigotry on to all Christians. He’s the one being a bigot here.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:42:38pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Thanks to you folks for mixing it up with Mona - I’m staying out of it. But remember that since she’s in my TweetDeck global mute I don’t see her tweets - just the responses to her from my followers.

I just got bored of her. She was just Tweeting the same lame derp shit over and over and over. Then she said Mondoweiss is not a hate site.

Poor little drama queen starving for attention.

99 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:42:56pm
100 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:43:42pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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We saw the day where Marco Rubio was a RINO. Now to ponder on how Ted Cruz will portray the Todd Starnes of the right.

101 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:43:55pm
102 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:43:57pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

As I said, he’s projecting his own anti-gay bigotry on to all Christians. He’s the one being a bigot here.

If you think your god wants you to treat other people like shit because they’re different in ways that have zero impact on your life, then it’s likely that you created your god in your own image, not the other way around.

103 Zamb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:44:08pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Homosexualist RINO if I recall correctly.

104 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:44:10pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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So her meeting Obama out on the airport runway a few years back was just her enthusiasm to receive instructions.
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105 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:44:37pm

re: #102 GeneJockey

If you think your god wants you to treat other people like shit because they’re different in ways that have zero impact on your life, then it’s likely that you created your god in your own image, not the other way around.

Amen says the agnostic.

106 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:45:09pm
107 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:45:28pm

re: #89 Gus

In a previous incarnation, I actually met Todd Starnes a couple of times when he was working for the Southern Baptist Convention Baptist Press (BP). He was a douchecanoe even then. And he seemed to play fast and loose with the truth even back then.

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:45:42pm
109 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:46:04pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Amen says the agnostic.

Nothing was more effective at convincing me of the absence of a god than believers telling me what their gods wanted them to do.

110 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:46:36pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

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IT’S HAPPENING! BY TOMORROW THERE WILL BE FORCED GAY MARRIAGES OR OFF TO THE GOOLAG ARCHIEPILLACHYO!!

111 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:46:59pm

Died yesterday at age 66 of heart disease.

Lumumba is remembered as a civil rights and human rights leader.

usatoday.com

Jackson (Miss.) Mayor Chokwe Lumumba, a longtime civil rights activist, died Tuesday afternoon at a hospital after experiencing chest pains.

(snip)

The national civil rights community took note when Lumumba became mayor last year of Mississippi’s capital city — a place that had seen its share of violence during the civil rights movement. Lumumba, a black nationalist, had worked with mainstream and leftist figures in the civil rights world.

(snip)

“The native of Detroit was born Edwin Taliaferro and graduated cum laude from Wayne State University Law School. He renamed himself after Patrice Lumumba, the Congolese independence leader, and the Chokwe, an Angolan tribe.”

112 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:47:15pm

re: #110 Gus

IT’S HAPPENING! BY TOMORROW THERE WILL BE FORCED GAY MARRIAGES OR OFF TO THE GOOLAG ARCHIEPILLACHYO!!

Stalin will personally perform your marriage to an interior designer from the Castro.

113 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:49:36pm
114 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:50:18pm

You know if Christians like Todd cared more about a fraction about as helping their fellow man as much as they hate gays, we’d probably be an even better country than we are now. But alas no guys like Starnes are obsessed with what others do behind closed doors.

115 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:50:21pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Stalin will personally perform your marriage to an interior designer from the Castro.

When you say THE Castro, you must men Fidel. Raul is also a Castro, but not as definitive.

116 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:50:32pm

Any chance that that the AZ lege could override Brewer’s veto?

117 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:51:02pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Stalin will personally perform your marriage to an interior designer from the Castro.

Castro… convertible.

118 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:51:11pm

re: #115 GeneJockey

When you say THE Castro, you must men Fidel. Raul is also a Castro, but not as definitive.

Haha it’s also funny because Fidel and the RWNJs share commonality on those. Stalin also. They also would have another nodding head from some guy named Osama.

119 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:51:13pm
120 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:51:22pm

re: #116 TedStriker

Any chance that that the AZ lege could override Brewer’s veto?

Given how far and how fast some of the clowns who voted for it have run away from it? Not likely.

121 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:51:58pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

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122 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:51:59pm

re: #116 TedStriker

Any chance that that the AZ lege could override Brewer’s veto?

When the guys who voted to pass it begged her to veto it? No.

123 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:52:03pm

re: #115 GeneJockey

When you say THE Castro, you must men Fidel. Raul is also a Castro, but not as definitive.

No, I’m pretty sure that HW means “the Castro”, as in the traditionally gay neighborhood of San Francisco.

124 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:52:19pm

re: #116 TedStriker

Any chance that that the AZ lege could override Brewer’s veto?

It passed by only three votes IIRC so I suspect likely not plus given that Brewer likely vetoed it because the GOP’s business interest allies were whispering in her ear, they’d probably be in their ears even faster if they tried to overturn it.

125 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:52:48pm

re: #121 Gus

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Damn dude I have to get up early tomorrow for the gym.

126 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:52:51pm

re: #116 TedStriker

After the nutters who initially voted for this nonsense then said that the Governor should veto it? I suppose it’s possible, but unlikely.

Much more likely is that they try sneaking in this language into another bill later in the legislative session with the modified language in the hopes no one will notice.

Except we are watching closely. And watching the homophobes attempt to make bigotry legal under the color of religious freedom.

127 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:53:18pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Haha it’s also funny because Fidel and the RWNJs share commonality on those. Stalin also. They also would have another nodding head from some guy named Osama.

Gay marriage will usher in SHARIA!!!! even though gay marriage would be banned under SHARIA!!!!

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:53:37pm

A restaurant based on the cookbook “To Serve Man”

129 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:54:09pm

re: #123 TedStriker

Not, I’m pretty sure that HW means “the Castro”, as in the traditionally gay neighborhood of San Francisco.

Heh yeah. I do love the image of the very homophobic Stalin performing a forced gay wedding to a RWNJ. Only thing that would make it even better is if the Ayatollah of Iran was the religous official on hand.

130 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:54:27pm

re: #123 TedStriker

No, I’m pretty sure that HW means “the Castro”, as in the traditionally gay neighborhood of San Francisco.

(I know that, I live in the Bay Area, and used to live in SF. I was riffing on the juxtaposition to Stalin)

131 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:54:37pm

re: #121 Gus
Children of the Ben


It’s kind of eerie how he looks like that guy from children of the corn, actually.

132 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:54:42pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

When the guys who voted to pass it begged her to veto it? No.

Since when has that stopped the true RWNJs? Brewer and the three legislators who voted for the bill, then begged Brewer to veto it when the spotlight got too bright, only chickened out on this because they saw out-of-state tourism/convention dollars flying away (or, in the case of next year’s SB, potentially flying away).

133 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:55:26pm

re: #131 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Children of the Ben

It’s kind of eerie how he looks like that guy from children of the corn, actually.

I don’t remember who came up with it but yes.

134 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:55:47pm

135 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:55:51pm

re: #85 GeneJockey

Or it could be the cheaper labor force, since nobody wants to live in those places.

Hint: where does Elon Musk live?

Tesla Founder Elon Musk Now Owns Two Mansions Across the Street From Each Other in Bel Air

la.curbed.com

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:56:19pm

Godwins are usually lame, but this one made me smile.

137 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:57:24pm

re: #136 Pie-onist Overlord

Godwins are usually lame, but this one made me smile.

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Although, really what happened is that he forced Hamburgers to SELL OUT gay people.

138 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:57:52pm

re: #136 Pie-onist Overlord

Godwins are usually lame, but this one made me smile.

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I think that’s mocking them but you have more familiarity with wingnuts on Twitter than myself.

139 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:58:00pm

Time-traveling Ben Shapiro just found the Twitter portal from the 1850’s.

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:58:28pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I think that’s mocking them but you have more familiarity with wingnuts on Twitter than myself.

That’s not a wingnut, that’s somebody making fun of wingnuts.

141 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:58:32pm

I searched for ‘gay Muslim wedding cake’, but didn’t find any. I did find the Imam to perform the ceremony.

America’s First Openly Gay Imam Performs Same-Sex Marriages for Gay Muslims - See more at: jadeafrican.com

Imam Daayiee Abdullah

142 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:58:44pm

re: #137 GeneJockey

Although, really what happened is that he forced Hamburgers to SELL OUT gay people.

Yeah if you’re dyslexic, it reads like the people of Germany were forced to serve gay people hamburgers.

143 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 5:59:22pm

re: #140 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s not a wingnut, that’s somebody making fun of wingnuts.

I figured it was but I thought you may have thought it sincere since you called it a Godwin.

144 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:00:03pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

I searched for ‘gay Muslim wedding cake’, but didn’t find any. I did find the Imam to perform the ceremony.

America’s First Openly Gay Imam Performs Same-Sex Marriages for Gay Muslims - See more at: jadeafrican.com

Imam Daayiee Abdullah

I think Bryan Fischer’s head just exploded. A black gay Muslim imam!

145 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:00:27pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I figured it was but I thought you may have thought it sincere since you called it a Godwin.

So, because of Poe’s Law, you can’t tell if it’s an example of Godwin’s Law?

146 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:00:35pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I think Bryan Fischer’s head just exploded. A black gay Muslim imam!

He will want his phone number….

147 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:00:51pm

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Isn’t it weird that Shapiro is basically promoting a far right Christian line of propaganda? This is a very confused person.

148 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:01:14pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

He will want his phone number….

I dunno. He’s kinda big, and bearded. He might be a Bear.
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149 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:02:06pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

I searched for ‘gay Muslim wedding cake’, but didn’t find any. I did find the Imam to perform the ceremony.

America’s First Openly Gay Imam Performs Same-Sex Marriages for Gay Muslims - See more at: jadeafrican.com

Imam Daayiee Abdullah

Awesome!

150 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:02:18pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I think Bryan Fischer’s head just exploded.

Don’t get my hopes up.

151 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:02:41pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

152 Archangelus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:02:41pm

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Time-traveling Ben Shapiro just found the Twitter portal from the 1850’s.

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I wonder what Shmuckface McClueless would have said once such a law would have served as the basis for Christian owners refusing to serve Jews or Muslims refusing to serve Christians..

153 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:03:38pm

re: #151 Pie-onist Overlord

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You enjoy popping heads, don’t you!

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:04:25pm

re: #151 Pie-onist Overlord

You need to tag George Takei on that!

155 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:04:29pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

That dude looks so cheerful.

156 GeneJockey  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:04:37pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

You enjoy popping heads, don’t you!

it’s like ‘Mars Attacks’, when Slim Whitman came on over the loudspeakers….

157 Archangelus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:05:12pm

re: #151 Pie-onist Overlord

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That there is some mighty fine, Industrial-grade RWNJ head-popper if ever i saw any…

158 Mattand  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:05:25pm

Listening to Gov Brewer’s speech on Maddow now.

Personally, my read-between-the-lines is that her attitude was “I’m more than happy to sign a bill that discriminates against gays, but this is too obvious.”

159 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:05:28pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

You gotta page that. Pleeeaase?

160 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:05:28pm


More at his feed.

161 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:05:47pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

I searched for ‘gay Muslim wedding cake’, but didn’t find any. I did find the Imam to perform the ceremony.

America’s First Openly Gay Imam Performs Same-Sex Marriages for Gay Muslims - See more at: jadeafrican.com

Imam Daayiee Abdullah

Haha, the look on his face makes me want to dance. : )

162 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:06:19pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

He will want his phone number….

I’m sure he’s busy looking for Michael Sam’s now. Remember he wants homosexuality outlawed because he loves black men.

163 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:06:46pm

re: #116 TedStriker

Any chance that that the AZ lege could override Brewer’s veto?

And face the wrath of those who have an economic stake on Az. I don’t think so. $$$$ in the end mean more to them than this.

Youtube Video

164 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:07:22pm

re: #157 Archangelus

That there is some mighty fine, Industrial-grade RWNJ head-popper if ever i saw any…

I think it’s beautiful and dare I say it quite American that we live in a country where an imam can be openly gay and perform weddings for gay Muslims. I know it’s not uniquely American but it is the kind of thing that makes me proud to be a westerner.

165 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:08:01pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

Isn’t it weird that Shapiro is basically promoting a far right Christian line of propaganda? This is a very confused person.

He knows his meal ticket, and it’s not Teh Juice.

166 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:08:06pm

re: #163 Bubblehead II

And face the wrath of those who have an economic stake on Az. I don’t think so. $$$$ in the end mean more to them than this.

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And I think that’s what the fundies are going to find out when the GOP is inevitably forced to run away from this kind of crap.

167 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:08:36pm

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

He knows his meal ticket, and it’s not Teh Juice.

Just like Santorum knows his meal ticket isn’t Catholics.

168 Zamb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:09:04pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

But not the gay poor.

169 Mattand  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:09:52pm

Oregon has a religious liberty/fuck you Gayz bill in the system? I thought Oregon was relatively free from the religious crazy crap.

170 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:10:31pm

re: #169 Mattand

Oregon has a religious liberty/fuck you Gayz bill in the system? I thought Oregon was relatively free from the religious crazy crap.

Yeah I thought even Oregon GOPers were relatively sane on this shit. My disappointment.

171 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:11:05pm

re: #169 Mattand

you’re confusing Oregon with Portland. From all I hear, there is a sea of red surrounding the deep blue parts of the state.

172 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:11:08pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

You gotta page that. Pleeeaase?

You gotta make a button to turn a comment into a Page. I gotta go…bbl.


later, lizards.

173 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:11:46pm

re: #40 Kragar

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Hey Todd? The war is against those who will be sorted with the Goats. See Matthew 25 if you don’t remember your bible…

174 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:15:18pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Yeah I thought even Oregon GOPers were relatively sane on this shit. My disappointment.

As far as I can tell, the GOP is pretty much getting worse/more extreme everywhere. The remaining moderates in the party really have little or no representation in the party because the GOP elected officials and party bosses tend to be either crazy bigots or enthusiastic panderers to the crazy bigots.

175 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:16:55pm

Ben Shapiro @benshapiro

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Not sure what the GOP stands for when it stands against religious freedom out of pure fear of political correctness.

It just chaps my ass that these assclowns continue hiding behind their religion. Jesus Christ advocated *for* bigotry and discrimination?

Don’t think so.

Pull up your big boy pants and put on your “I am just a big ol’ bigot, and I’m proud!” coat.

Be honest. Embrace your truth.

176 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:17:10pm

Just found out one of my grad school profs got a Fullbright Professorship and will be teaching abroad in the fall. That is so cool! :D

177 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:20:31pm

re: #176 Lidane

Just found out one of my grad school profs got a Fullbright Professorship and will be teaching abroad in the fall. That is so cool! :D

That can be a nice gig. Do you know where’s he’s going?

(Hopefully not the International School of Kharkiv…)

178 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:21:09pm

re: #171 Rev_Arthur_Belling

re: #171 Rev_Arthur_Belling

you’re confusing Oregon with Portland. From all I hear, there is a sea of red surrounding the deep blue parts of the state.

Much like my predicament here in TN; outside of where I am in Nashville/Davidson County (excepting the tonier, richer parts of town, such as Belle Meade, Green Hills, Oak Hill, and the parts of town closest to Brentwood and the Williamson Country line) and much of Memphis/Shelby County, TN is almost blood red right now.

179 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:21:23pm

re: #176 Lidane

Just found out one of my grad school profs got a Fullbright Professorship and will be teaching abroad in the fall. That is so cool! :D

Sounds like a great gig. Where at.

180 A Mom Anon  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:23:07pm

re: #175 austin_blue

Seriously. They’re proud to be assholes, so why not let that freak flag fly? It’s not God they care about at all, they just want their stupid, ignorant hatred to be codified into law so they can hurt others with no consequences. Chickenshit cowardly sacks of bloated protoplasm. Godbothering Shitmuffins.

181 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:23:18pm

re: #178 TedStriker

Which like my predicament here in TN; outside Nashville/Davidson County (excepting the tonier, richer parts of town, such as Belle Meade, Green Hills, Oak Hill, and the parts of town closest to Brentwood and the Williamson Country line) and much of Memphis/Shelby County, TN is almost blood red right now.

It’s not that different in Illinois, either. And I’d imagine in any state. Something about urban living makes for more progressive/liberal/whateveryouwanttocallit voters. Maybe the exposure to more human beings who don’t look/talk/act/think like you and are still nice enough people.

182 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:23:55pm

re: #177 austin_blue

That can be a nice gig. Do you know where’s he’s going?

(Hopefully not the International School of Kharkiv…)

Innsbruck, Austria. He deserves it. Dude was one of my favorite profs in school and a hell of a lawyer. He taught us a lot.

183 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:25:36pm

re: #180 A Mom Anon

Seriously. They’re proud to be assholes, so why not let that freak flag fly? It’s not God they care about at all, they just want their stupid, ignorant hatred to be codified into law so they can hurt others with no consequences. Chickenshit cowardly sacks of bloated protoplasm. Godbothering Shitmuffins.

The thing that upsets me most and I am not even religious is when they claim that opposing such legislation is anti-Christian. Yeah because there’s no such thing as pro-gay Christians or gay Christians who would be adversely hurt by such legislation. And not to mention that they only seem to care about how it effects Christians. Like they just want Christians to be able to discriminate free at will. They’d flip their shit if a Jewish or Muslim owner refused to serve a Christian but they’re totally okay with a Christian refusing to serve a gay.

184 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:26:12pm

re: #182 Lidane

Innsbruck, Austria. He deserves it. Dude was one of my favorite profs in school and a hell of a lawyer. He taught us a lot.

Ah Innsbruck. My roommate when I was abroad had great things to say about it. Real high up in the Alps IIRC.

185 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:26:46pm

re: #182 Lidane

Innsbruck, Austria. He deserves it. Dude was one of my favorite profs in school and a hell of a lawyer. He taught us a lot.

Drool.

Innsbruck is just drop dead gorgeous. Good for him!

More of that strudel and schnitzel, bitte!

186 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:28:03pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

You gotta make a button to turn a comment into a Page.

Very interesting idea.

187 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:28:34pm

All hail the wonders of ibuprofen.

I really look forward to when they come up with reversible birth control for men. Then maybe I don’t have to be stabbed in the ladyparts once every five years.

188 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:31:05pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

I searched for ‘gay Muslim wedding cake’, but didn’t find any. I did find the Imam to perform the ceremony.

America’s First Openly Gay Imam Performs Same-Sex Marriages for Gay Muslims - See more at: jadeafrican.com

Imam Daayiee Abdullah

I think I heard of that guy before. I never saw his picture through.

189 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:32:17pm

re: #187 klys

All hail the wonders of ibuprofen.

I really look forward to when they come up with reversible birth control for men. Then maybe I don’t have to be stabbed in the ladyparts once every five years.

Yikes! I thought it was a subcutaneous upper arm implant!

Ow ow ow. Brain Bleach, please.

190 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:32:21pm

-You can refuse service for conduct, such as drunk and disorderly, must be objectively identifiable, consistent standard.
-You can refuse service to people who’ve robbed you or vandalized your property, again this is specific, objectively objectionable conduct.
-You can refuse service based on dress code, if reasonable and applied equally.
-You can refuse service to everyone, equally, by closing early.
-You can refuse service to the public by simply not being open to it, by only serving certain licensed professionals, such as electrical contractors or law enforcement. But the criteria must be clear and based on objectively defensible business practices. It cannot be subjective, it cannot be rooted in bigotry or religion.

If your business is open to the public the one thing you cannot do is pick and chooose, parsing that public, refusing service based on perceived status or class. You cannot single out blacks, jews, gays, or redheads.

You are not allowed to do this because your license to do business is provided by the State, which has an obligation to make sure everyone has equal protection of the laws. Your business benefits from public roads and infrastructure, you depend on public law enforcement for dispute resolution and protection, on public fire departments for safety. You can’t subjectively ban only certain elements of the public, because all those elements helped make the environment conducive to the success of your business. It would be fundamentally unfair to demand that gays help pay for roads that you benefit from if you won’t serve them. It would be fundamentally unfair to ask them to help pay for the services of the police that then enforces your bigotry against them.

If you want to be a bigot, do it privately, in your own home. Nobody will force you to associate against your will there, no matter how dickish your will may be. When you open a business to the public you’re surrendering a certain amount of control over what that public looks like in exchange for the numerous benefits that same public provides to you.

191 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:34:41pm

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

-You can refuse service for conduct, such as drunk and disorderly, must be objectively identifiable, consistent standard.
-You can refuse service to people who’ve robbed you or vandalized your property, again this is specific, objectively objectionable conduct.
-You can refuse service based on dress code, if reasonable and applied equally.
-You can refuse service to everyone, equally, by closing early.
-You can refuse service to the public by simply not being open to it, by only serving certain licensed professionals, such as electrical contractors or law enforcement. But the criteria must be clear and based on objectively defensible business practices. It cannot be subjective, it cannot be rooted in bigotry or religion.

If your business is open to the public the one thing you cannot do is pick and chooose, parsing that public, refusing service based on perceived status or class. You cannot single out blacks, jews, gays, or redheads.

You can’t do this because your license to do business is provided by the State, which has an obligation to make sure everyone has equal protection of the laws. Your business benefits from public roads and infrastructure, you depend on public law enforcement for dispute resolution and protection, on public fire departments for safety. You can’t subjectively ban only certain elements of the public, because all those elements helped make the environment conducive to the success of your business. It would be fundamentally unfair to demand that gays help pay for roads that you benefit from if you won’t serve them. It would be fundamentally unfair to ask them to help pay for the services of the police that then enforces your bigotry against them.

If you want to be a bigot, do it privately, in your own home. Nobody will force you to associate against your will there, no matter how dickish your will may be. When you open a business to the public you’re surrendering a certain amount of control over what that public looks like in exchange for the numerous benefits that same public provides to you.

This times a 1000.

192 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:34:46pm

re: #189 austin_blue

Yikes! I thought it was a subcutaneous upper arm implant!

Ow ow ow. Brain Bleach, please.

That’s Norplant; it sounds like klys is talking about IUDs.

193 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:36:10pm

re: #192 TedStriker

That’s Norplant; it sounds like klys is talking about IUDs.

Oh. Of course. Still…

Ow.

194 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:37:59pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Oh. Of course. Still…

Ow.

Yes.

Ow is a good summary.

195 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:39:05pm
196 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:39:07pm

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

This x infinity. It should be carved into the Washington Monument in foot-high letters.

197 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:40:04pm

On the plus side, this time I was able to preload ibuprofen so I have been able to sit up for much of the afternoon and play D3, which just got the new loot system (ahead of the AH closing) which has been a *blast.*

On the downside, I knew what was coming this time and it was still about as hellish as expected. I always feel bad for the doctor, because I can imagine it sucks a ton for them too.

198 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:41:54pm

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

-You can refuse service for conduct, such as drunk and disorderly, must be objectively identifiable, consistent standard……If you want to be a bigot, do it privately, in your own home. Nobody will force you to associate against your will there, no matter how dickish your will may be. When you open a business to the public you’re surrendering a certain amount of control over what that public looks like in exchange for the numerous benefits that same public provides to you.

Look, you Liberal Homosexualist. I can’t keep the following out of my diner anymore:

The Chinamen, The Jews, The Irish, The Meskins, The Redskins, The Negroes, The Eyetalians, The A-rabs, The Frogs, or The Hindoos.

All I had left were The Queers! And now you’re stomping all over my Religious Freedoms!

199 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:42:05pm

In summary, as far as Mona is concerned, hosting a website where a banned poster made racist comments 12 years ago is the same thing as being a neo-nazi serving 40 years in jail for trying to murder a judge.

200 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:43:31pm

re: #187 klys

I really look forward to when they come up with reversible birth control for men. Then maybe I don’t have to be stabbed in the ladyparts once every five years.

As a male, I firmly support this. (the reversible birth control part, not the ladyparts part)

201 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:43:59pm

re: #198 austin_blue

Look, you Liberal Homosexualist. I can’t keep the following out of my diner anymore:

The Chinamen, The Jews, The Irish, The Meskins, The Redskins, The Negroes, The Eyetalians, The A-rabs, The Frogs, or The Hindoos.

All I had left were The Queers! And now you’re stomping all over my Religious Freedoms!

202 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:44:03pm

re: #2 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURRRR!!!1!!!


Here’s my response to that,

203 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:44:27pm

re: #199 Kragar

In summary, as far as Mona is concerned, hosting a website where a banned poster made racist comments 12 years ago is the same thing as being a neo-nazi serving 40 years in jail for trying to murder a judge.

HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS WAS TEH RACISTS 150 YEARS AGO!!!!11!!

HURR HURR CHARLES LET TEH RACIST COMMENTS AT LGF 10 YEARS AGO!!!1!!!!! NO I CANTS FIND TEH COMMENTS NOW, I CANT HAS TEH GOOGLES TIME MACHINE!!!!!11!!!

204 TedStriker  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:45:04pm

re: #198 austin_blue

Look, you Liberal Homosexualist. I can’t keep the following out of my diner anymore:

The Chinamen, The Jews, The Irish, The Meskins, The Redskins, The Negroes, The Eyetalians, The A-rabs, The Frogs, or The Hindoos.

All I had left were The Queers! And now you’re stomping all over my Religious Freedoms!

Sounds like a band…

205 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:46:47pm
206 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:47:49pm

re: #205 Kragar

Greed and war-mongering can be put the list as well.

207 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:47:50pm

Well I bet you most of the RINO’s insisting on Veto have a family member they ENABLE in their destructive lifestyle and think all others should as well.

It’s anyones right to refuse service when it violates ones moral conscience. Who do we obey GOD or Extorting Marxist? If someone ones doesn’t want to bake the Homo’s a cake then the Homo’s should go elsewhere. Let the market sort it out not our Marxist government.

This is government sanctioned Extortion. Serve Homo’s against your conscience or else you loose your business and all you have worked for? Such politicians are Tyrants and Thugs.

The Radical Looking for a fight Homosexuals are fixing to force this into a situation where people start giving retribution to them. Maybe that’s what the perverts want perhaps? No one owes another person acceptance of their sexual perversions nor enabling thereof.
— Freeper

208 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:48:07pm

re: #205 Kragar

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Oh, snap!

209 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:48:21pm
210 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:49:06pm

re: #206 EPR-radar

Greed and war-mongering can be put the list as well.

Conservatives have a problem if you start counting too high.

211 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:49:50pm
212 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:49:58pm

re: #210 Kragar

Conservatives have a problem if you start counting too high.

It is a problem if counting is limited to thumbs only…

213 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:50:55pm

re: #200 Rev_Arthur_Belling

As a male, I firmly support this. (the reversible birth control part, not the ladyparts part)

I believe so strongly that guys deserve equal options in controlling their reproductive capabilities; having both partners be involved and capable would do a lot, I think. Yes, condoms are great and should still be used in a lot of casual situations, but in a committed relationship it would be nice for other options to be available.

Especially since the failure rate on condoms is such that …well, I’m never going to be willing to rely on just that.

214 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:51:09pm

re: #211 Gus

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215 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:51:21pm

re: #210 Kragar

It also probably wouldn’t fit on the tweet with the 140 character limit.

216 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:52:52pm

FEEL THE LOVE.

217 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:53:41pm

Additionally, civil rights laws help protect business owners in regions characterized by endemic bigotry. Restauranteurs and hoteliers operating in the pre Civil Rights Era South refused service to blacks for one of two obvious reasons. Either they were bigots themselves, or they knew that the whites in their area were so bigoted that they would retaliate against individual businesses choosing to integrate.

Civil rights laws ended that, and allowed business to gain a whole new class of clientele without having to stick their necks out and suffer the likely boycott and potentially violent consequences of having chosen to serve blacks. So instead society changed from the top down via mandate, took the choice away because it had to, and everyone benefited.

218 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:55:32pm
219 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:56:01pm

Oops. No apostrophe. Derp.

220 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:56:02pm

re: #209 Gus

Link provided for your amusement.

Had to get out of there. I was afraid I was going to start throwing up and not be able to stop. That level of fear, loathing, and snot-slinging viciousness is really remarkable. And more than a little terrifying.

Do I really pass these people on the street every day and not recognize them for the pitiful cretins they are? They must be absolutely miserable living in this country. Sad, sad, sad little Freepers.

Maybe America is not where you belong?

221 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:56:54pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I think it’s beautiful and dare I say it quite American that we live in a country where an imam can be openly gay and perform weddings for gay Muslims. I know it’s not uniquely American but it is the kind of thing that makes me proud to be a westerner.

Masha’Allah.

It may take time, but I figure in time, a distinctly American form of Islam will come to the fore. Culturally liberal, committed to democratic principles and the American way of life.

Insha’Allah.

222 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:58:04pm

re: #213 klys

I believe so strongly that guys deserve equal options in controlling their reproductive capabilities; having both partners be involved and capable would do a lot, I think. Yes, condoms are great and should still be used in a lot of casual situations, but in a committed relationship it would be nice for other options to be available.

Quoted again for truth. Even though I’m approaching the point where the non-reversible option is probably what I should go with, I also remember when I was much younger, and the only real option a guy had/has was/is the condom. I’d use a patch, or get a shot. No big deal.

223 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:58:22pm
224 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:58:32pm

re: #214 Kragar

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Damn, Krager, you are en fuego tonight.

225 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:58:46pm

re: #218 Gus

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I was just checking out the freeper response. The butthurt derp is exquisite, truly to go down in the annals as a fine vintage.

226 sagehen  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:59:13pm

so a Portland newspaper got to wondering; if a baker’s “sincere religious beliefs” keep her from making a cake for a lesbian wedding… how does the same bakery respond to other unChristian cake requests?

Baby Out of Wedlock
WW Asks - I’m shopping around for a nice baby shower cake for my friend. It’s her second baby with her boyfriend so I’m not looking for anything too big or fancy—probably enough to serve 15 to 20 people.


Divorce Party
WW Asks - My friend is getting divorced and we’d like to throw her a little party to mark the start of her new life. Do you ever write messages on those—we’d want it to say “congratulations!”—and how much would it be for a cake that could serve about eight people?


Stem-Cell Success
WW Asks - I was wondering if you could do two little cakes. My friend is a researcher at OHSU and she just got a grant for cloning human stem cells, so I thought I’d get her two identical cakes—basically, two little clone cakes. How much would they cost?


Pagan Solstice Party
WW Asks - I was calling to get a quote on a cake for a midsummer solstice party. My coven is celebrating on Friday, June 21. The decoration would be very simple: just a green pentagram. We’d like to pick it up sometime that afternoon, before the bonfire. It’ll be for about 30 people.

Surprise, surprise… got quotes for all the them, no problem.

wweek.com

227 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 6:59:37pm

228 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:00:13pm

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

Masha’Allah.

It may take time, but I figure in time, a distinctly American form of Islam will come to the fore. Culturally liberal, committed to democratic principles and the American way of life.

Insha’Allah.

Amen.

229 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:01:07pm

The only freedom of religion still standing in America is going to be the worship of the anus.

This country is truly in a death-spiral. By the time it reaches its last gasp, it will probably be a point actually worthy of celebration rather than mourning, considering the depths of evil it is descending to.

230 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:01:24pm

re: #226 sagehen

so a Portland newspaper got to wondering; if a baker’s “sincere religious beliefs” keep her from making a cake for a lesbian wedding… how does the same bakery respond to other unChristian cake requests?

Surprise, surprise… got quotes for all the them, no problem.

wweek.com

It’s a good question. And it shows why this is just selective bs.

231 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:01:46pm

re: #229 Gus

The only freedom of religion still standing in America is going to be the worship of the anus.

This country is truly in a death-spiral. By the time it reaches its last gasp, it will probably be a point actually worthy of celebration rather than mourning, considering the depths of evil it is descending to.

heh heh he said anus.

232 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:02:03pm

re: #227 Gus

LOL!

233 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:03:56pm

234 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:05:33pm

That one’s Jed.

235 aagcobb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:05:54pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

I searched for ‘gay Muslim wedding cake’, but didn’t find any. I did find the Imam to perform the ceremony.

America’s First Openly Gay Imam Performs Same-Sex Marriages for Gay Muslims - See more at: jadeafrican.com

Imam Daayiee Abdullah

Wingnuts worst nightmare.

236 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:07:06pm

re: #235 aagcobb

Wingnuts worst nightmare.

Nah he’s not a woman. But he comes damn close.

237 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:08:05pm

re: #233 Gus

“Bring your own jelly.”
So it’s a libertarian church?

238 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:08:57pm

239 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:09:16pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

heh heh he said anus.

You know, I don’t know if I, as a Liberal, am into anus worship, but I certainly have a certain amount of anus respect.

I mean, anything that collectively keeps us from crapping our pants in social situations deserves a modicum of respect, eh?

240 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:10:31pm
241 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:12:01pm

Now wingnuts get to whine about how bullied and persecuted they are, thus rallying (and monetizing) the base. They were always going to come out ahead politically, no matter what Boney-finger Brewer did.

242 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:12:03pm

re: #239 austin_blue

You know, I don’t know if I, as a Liberal, am into anus >worship, but I certainly have a certain amount of anus respect.

I mean, anything that collectively keeps us from crapping our pants in social situations deserves a modicum of respect, eh?

Yeah anuees need loving too.

243 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:12:17pm

You’re right. The image I was thinking about was Junior Bush appointing his AIDs CZAR. Of course it was a sodomite who had AIDs. Standing right beside the AIDs CZAR was Junior and his grinning wife like they were proud parents. It was nauseating.

244 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:12:46pm

Night Lizards.

The scooter wasn’t happy with me last night.

Bounced me off after hitting a pot hole. Croaker say’s 1 maybe two ribs cracked. X-Ray results tomorrow. Hoping for none of the above and just bruising. Meds really starting to kick in.

So time to cal it a night.

245 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:13:09pm

Man, as unpleasant as my afternoon was, it still sounds like it was more fun than dealing with the GGco.

246 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:13:09pm

The freepers are falling on the floor, foaming at the mouth, and turning purple and red in rage, pain, and confusion. It is a joy to behold, the purest, brightest schadenfreude we have had in a long time. (Am I a bad person for enjoying their misery?)

247 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:13:41pm

re: #243 Gus

What a nice Freeper. I suppose his “answer” to dealing with AIDS in the US would involve the fires and ovens.

248 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:14:30pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel

The freepers are falling on the floor, foaming at the mouth, and turning purple and red in rage, pain, and confusion. It is a joy to behold, the purest, brightest schadenfreude we have had in a long time. (Am I a bad person for enjoying their misery?)

No. Evil people should be miserable. May they choke on their own bile.

249 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:14:45pm

Mona is a sad, lonely little troll. When she doesn’t get the attention she craves, she Tweets furiously TEH MOAST CRAZIE DERP EVEN IF IT MAEKS NO CENTS just to get response.

251 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:22:22pm

I told everyone here on Sunday there was zero chance she would sign it. The legislature needs to go back and re-write a statute that specifically carves out certain professions for protection, gain her signature, and add to it later. They were naive to just rush this out there and not think there would be a national blowback.

252 aagcobb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:22:26pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel

The freepers are falling on the floor, foaming at the mouth, and turning purple and red in rage, pain, and confusion. It is a joy to behold, the purest, brightest schadenfreude we have had in a long time. (Am I a bad person for enjoying their misery?)

They are such awful people, how could you not?

253 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:23:30pm

re: #251 Gus

I told everyone here on Sunday there was zero chance she would sign it. The legislature needs to go back and re-write a statute that specifically carves out certain professions for protection, gain her signature, and add to it later. They were naive to just rush this out there and not think there would be a national blowback.

Oh, so it’s a messaging problem.
e_e

254 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:23:51pm

WE GOTS TO WRITE A LAW THAT SEZ PEOPLE ARE FREE TO REFUSE SERVICE TO HOMOSEXUALS AND HOMOSEXUALS ONLY BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

255 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:25:16pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

When ‘Religious Liberty’ Was Used To Justify Racism Instead Of Homophobia

First thing I see?

Bilbo was also a virulent racist.

You now have my full attention.

256 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:25:58pm

re: #255 goddamnedfrank

First thing I see?

You now have my full attention.

They’re triskie ones, them hobbitses.

257 aagcobb  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:26:14pm
258 Skip Intro  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:27:34pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I think Bryan Fischer’s head just exploded. A black gay Muslim imam!

I thought that was Obama.

259 Archangelus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:27:47pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel

(Am I a bad person for enjoying their misery?)

Nope!

260 Mentis Fugit  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:30:41pm

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

Masha’Allah.

It may take time, but I figure in time, a distinctly American form of Islam will come to the fore. Culturally liberal, committed to democratic principles and the American way of life.

Insha’Allah.

[­wingnut class=”Muslim”]MINO!!!t![­/wingnut]

261 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:31:09pm
262 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:32:01pm

263 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:34:03pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

When ‘Religious Liberty’ Was Used To Justify Racism Instead Of Homophobia

Yep. You should definitely page this.

264 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:34:43pm

re: #262 Gus

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So how much is the dowry for their most attractive daughter?//

265 Stanley Sea  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:35:27pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

When ‘Religious Liberty’ Was Used To Justify Racism Instead Of Homophobia

I see precedent against Hobby Lobby.

266 jaunte  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:35:36pm

re: #262 Gus

I don’t think they can take the NFL.

267 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:36:05pm

re: #262 Gus

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The guy with the gray cap and gray beard (4th from left) looks like my brother Judas. Do you know where this was taken? He and wife Jezebel are big supporters of “traditional marriage” and homophobic fundyism in general. The irony, of course, is so dense as to endanger the stability of the Sun.

268 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:36:26pm

re: #261 Gus


Hopefully that won’t happen.

269 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:38:05pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Yeah I thought even Oregon GOPers were relatively sane on this shit.

Two words: Art Robinson.

270 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:38:08pm

re: #267 Shiplord Kirel

The guy with the gray cap and gray beard (4th from left) looks like my brother Judas. Do you know where this was taken? He and wife Jezebel are big supporters of “traditional marriage” and homophobic fundyism in general. The irony, of course, is so dense as to endanger the stability of the Sun.

Link here.

Caption:

A group opposing same sex marriage demonstrates Feb. 25 in front of federal court in Detroit, where Michigan’s same-sex marriage ban is being litigated.

271 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:38:43pm

So basically SB 1062 is also discriminatory against atheist homophobes. //

272 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:39:20pm

re: #269 freetoken

I was going to guess one word: ALEC.

273 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:40:56pm

re: #270 Gus

Link here.

Caption:

A group opposing same sex marriage demonstrates Feb. 25 in front of federal court in Detroit, where Michigan’s same-sex marriage ban is being litigated.

Probably not him then. They have their lair in Massachusetts, where they are wheels in that commonwealth’s small but noisy RWNJ fifth column.

274 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:41:06pm

re: #261 Gus

re: #262 Gus

I detect a notable lack of color in those images. (and I’m not talking about the signs)

275 Skip Intro  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:41:08pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel

The freepers are falling on the floor, foaming at the mouth, and turning purple and red in rage, pain, and confusion. It is a joy to behold, the purest, brightest schadenfreude we have had in a long time. (Am I a bad person for enjoying their misery?)

That’s the entire appeal of being a Freeper. Just read Head Freeper RimJob’s pronouncements at the start of every begathon. Fear and Loathing and Homosexualists and They’re Coming For Our Guns and Women.

The guy pulls in $340,000 a year with this shit.

276 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:47:17pm

re: #272 Rev_Arthur_Belling

When the Oregon GOP made Robinson their head, we knew that the Oregon GOP had proved it went over the edge.

277 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:50:39pm
278 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:51:06pm
279 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:52:59pm

Again. You can be a bigot but only if it’s religiously based. If you’re an atheist you can’t come up with a defense for anti-gay bigotry.

280 bubba zanetti  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:54:58pm


281 bubba zanetti  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:55:49pm

tolerance as a weapon what is this I don’t even

282 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:56:29pm

re: #281 bubba zanetti

tolerance as a weapon what is this I don’t even

It’s a weapon of Masse destruction.

283 Belafon  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 7:59:51pm

re: #281 bubba zanetti

tolerance as a weapon what is this I don’t even

How dare they use Jesus against us Christians!

284 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:00:16pm
285 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:01:31pm
286 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:02:21pm
287 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:02:48pm

re: #285 Gus

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Nice taxi.

288 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:03:39pm

tolerance as a weapon. Yes. That’s so fucking horrible! You might have to actually be nice to someone you don’t agree with, or find “icky.”

“Common Courtesy as a weapon”
“Decency as a weapon”
“Do unto others as a weapon”

I do not have enough heads nor desks for this b.s.

289 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:04:06pm

re: #286 Gus

I’m struck at how much this whole Ukraine flare-up is very much about old ethnic conflicts, frosted over with much more modern strategic geo-political goals.

290 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:04:15pm

re: #287 Killgore Trout

Nice taxi.

Is that a Lada limo?

291 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:05:02pm

I mean, really - Tartars, Bulgars, Magyars, Rus … these are centuries if not millennia old fights.

292 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:05:30pm

Yep.

293 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:06:41pm

Outrage!

294 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:07:11pm

re: #292 Gus

There’s a certain panache about those things - I think they’d do well in Tribeca.

295 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:07:12pm

re: #290 Gus

Is that a Lada limo?

I don’t know but I’d love to see Jeremy Clarkson try to drift it.

296 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:08:12pm

re: #294 freetoken

There’s a certain panache about those things - I think they’d do well in Tribeca.

re: #295 Killgore Trout

I don’t know but I’d love to see Jeremy Clarkson try to drift it.

Here’s a longer one.

297 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:08:23pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout

It’s the sweetest drift taxi … In The World.

298 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:09:19pm

When a Lada gets into a head on with a truck in Russia the end result is a lada parts.

//

299 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:09:54pm
300 Belafon  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:10:17pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout

I could see the episode: They’re given two taxis and told to make a stretch taxi out of it. They would cut the trunks off, attach the remaining pieces, and then spend the entire rest of the episode trying to reverse the rear transmission so that both engines could be used to drive the car.

301 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:10:37pm
302 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:10:56pm
303 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:11:12pm

Eject! Eject! Eject! Eject!

305 darthstar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:12:07pm

Cows jumping for joy.

Youtube Video

306 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:12:30pm

Note. Said Google search can lead to some gruesome stuff. I assume most folks are aware of this.

307 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:13:38pm

re: #288 Rev_Arthur_Belling

tolerance as a weapon. Yes. That’s so fucking horrible! You might have to actually be nice to someone you don’t agree with, or find “icky.”

“Common Courtesy as a weapon”
“Decency as a weapon”
“Do unto others as a weapon”

I do not have enough heads nor desks for this b.s.

Hmm…more heads is probably not an option for you. I suggest a trip to Ikea or Office Max for more desks.

308 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:16:01pm

re: #307 austin_blue

you’re asking me to put together an Ikea desk? I’ll need a head/desk just for that!

309 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:17:16pm

re: #305 darthstar

Cows jumping for joy.

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310 chadu  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:17:35pm

re: #201 Gus

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The Antichrist is going to be a homosexual?

That’s new.

311 jaunte  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:20:17pm

re: #284 Gus

RAF Lakenheath, UK

312 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:22:54pm

re: #311 jaunte

492nd TFS/48th TFW “Bowlers”, tail code “LN” - RAF Lakenheath, UK

Meep, meep!

Mach loop.

313 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:28:27pm

re: #26 Lidane

Right on cue, the Freepers are outraged:

Still outraged, still derping. From the same thread:

She was pressured out of it.

The left has more political clout than us. That’s why EVERY SINGLE PIECE of their agenda is being pushed through.

Sucks that we have to push through laws to reaffirm what’s already in the Constitution.

Hugh Hewitt was just talking to an Arizona conservative activist and he was very concerned to make sure that no one would think that he is ‘homophobic’.

No, Hugh, those of us unfortunate enough to subject ourselves to your phony ‘conservatism’ would never accuse you of being homophobic. That’s an honor you don’t deserve.

Gutless coward. Let the persecution of Christians continue.

I told everyone here on Sunday there was zero chance she would sign it. The legislature needs to go back and re-write a statute that specifically carves out certain professions for protection, gain her signature, and add to it later. They were naive to just rush this out there and not think there would be a national blowback.

We are getting creamed.

The Texas overturning is worse

At least someone with standing may appeal

We have utterly collapsed overnight metaphorically

All you civil rights acts lovers here

It started right there

She bowed to the NFL thugs, and their perversion mafia whom they seem to have now embraced.

She could not stomach another battle like she went through on SB 1070 with ILLEGAL ALIENS. The GAY MAFIA is much more powerful than the ILLEGAL ALIEN supporters - must have GAY MARRIAGE.
IS ANYONE ON FR FOOLISH ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THIS IS THE END OF GAYS AND RELIGEOUS PROSECUTION? This will not end until the Bible is banned as hate speech and all ministers are shut up permanently.

Germany in the making right before our eyes, and yet we all sit around watching the NFL and cower when they threaten to move the SUPER BOWL.

As usual, Satan’s acolytes in the state-controlled media report outrage only when it’s coming from one of their radical left-wing protected class groups.

I despise these subhuman mongrels with a passion.

314 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:33:28pm

re: #310 chadu

The Antichrist is going to be a homosexual?

That’s new.

Well, duh. He’s ANTI-Christ! And Christ demands that I go all Torquemada on Teh Gays so the Antichrist must be Teh Gay.

That’s what we call a big old QED down here in Texas.

Where, by the way, some know-nothing Meskin Activist Judge said our law protecting the sanctity of marriage being defined as one man and one woman was unConstitutional today, despite the fact that every County in Texas, except for the People’s Republic of Travis County, voted for a Constitutional Amendment that enshrined our bigotry into law!

The nerve of these Judicial Activists! Equal Protection Under the Law, my ass. Gotdamn Libruls.

315 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:39:30pm

re: #312 Gus

Meep, meep!

Mach loop.

Humid days make for great jet shots.

316 chadu  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:44:15pm

re: #288 Rev_Arthur_Belling

tolerance as a weapon. Yes. That’s so fucking horrible! You might have to actually be nice to someone you don’t agree with, or find “icky.”

“Common Courtesy as a weapon”
“Decency as a weapon”
“Do unto others as a weapon”

I do not have enough heads nor desks for this b.s.

DULUTH, KS—Claiming it is “impossible” to get him to consider different points of view, exasperated acquaintances of local man Kyle Dunham told reporters Wednesday that the 34-year-old is completely unwilling to listen to even a single argument as to why homosexuality is an abomination.

Sources familiar with the account manager’s maddeningly rigid beliefs said that no matter how patiently and logically they present the extensive evidence demonstrating that gays and lesbians are systematically destroying society, the narrow-minded Dunham simply tunes them out.

theonion.com

317 plansbandc  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:02:08pm

Nice attention whoring. How about you kill bs legislation like this before it even comes to a vote. Appalling that it was one signature away from becoming law.

318 Flavia  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:57:25pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Is Ben Shapiro smart enough to know he’s trying to pull a rhetorical trick to justify bigotry, or is he dense enough to believe this idiotic BS?

Yes.

319 No Country For Old Haters  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:39:13am
320 Mattand  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:31:16am

re: #281 bubba zanetti

tolerance as a weapon what is this I don’t even

My Republican-in-denial “independent” friend’s big objection to the ACA is that he felt Obama was forcing his morality on the American public.

Let that sink in for a minute: his objection to Obama’s morals was that the Prez was using a conservative-based plan to make sure people get access to cheaper health care.

So, no, “Tolerance as a weapon” does not surprise me in the least.

321 De Kolta Chair  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:02:15pm

Alcohol Pun Alert: Brewer’s maiden name was Drinkwine.

322 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:07:12pm

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Welcome, hatchling.

323 De Kolta Chair  Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:32:48am

Thank you kindly, wrenchwench.


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