1 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:26:03pm

All three of us?

//

2 darthstar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:28:17pm

OT: Open Thread.

3 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:33:49pm

I thought he was freer in Russia than he is here in the States. Isn’t that the dudebro line?

4 klys  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:38:04pm

re: #3 Lidane

I thought he was freer in Russia than he is here in the States. Isn’t that the dudebro line?

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That whole reality aspect can be a real bitch.

5 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:39:37pm

In case you missed it…

NOTORIOUS HATE SITE!
NOTORIOUS HATE SITE!
NOTORIOUS HATE SITE!

6 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:39:38pm

Well, I guess we can expect a shit ton of snow and ice again over the weekend.

7 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:40:59pm

re: #3 Lidane

Is Edward Snowden a prisoner in Russia?

Bear, woods? Pope, Catholic?

8 piratedan  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:42:11pm

re: #5 Kragar

In case you missed it…

NOTORIOUS HATE SITE!
NOTORIOUS HATE SITE!
NOTORIOUS HATE SITE!

if only you would fit nicely into the pigeonhole that I’ve maliciously characterized you into….. /////

9 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:42:57pm

re: #7 makeitstop

Bear, woods? Pope, Catholic?

Seriously. I’m amazed this is even a question. LOL dudebros.

10 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:44:01pm

re: #8 piratedan

if only you would fit nicely into the pigeonhole that I’ve maliciously characterized you into….. /////

You hung out with someone who said something racist a decade again, you Nazi!

11 jaunte  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:47:15pm

re: #5 Kragar

‘notorious hate site’
anagrams to

‘situation to heroes’

and

‘It nourishes oat toe’

12 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:48:23pm


13 chadu  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:52:24pm

re: #3 Lidane

I thought he was freer in Russia than he is here in the States. Isn’t that the dudebro line?

Is this a boxers/briefs sort of question?

14 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:54:28pm

So, what have we learned today?

1) Jan Brewer is not a Complete Idiot;

2) If LGF was a purported Hate Site in the past, it must be an actual Hate Site today;

3) The vast majority of Freepers REALLY need to adjust their meds;

4) Real Madrid can waltz into Gelsinkirchen and beat Schalke, 6-1, like a redheaded stepchild;

5) Pooty poot has decided to rattle some sabers on the Ukranian border to see if NATO, and specifically, Angela Merkel, has a set of stones; and

6) It’s Open Thread Wednesday!

15 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:56:08pm
16 The War TARDIS  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:04:28pm

re: #14 austin_blue

Germany is Russia’s whore.

They will roll over at the slightest provocation.

17 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:08:38pm

Heh.

18 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:11:58pm

re: #16 The War TARDIS

Germany is Russia’s whore.

They will roll over at the slightest provocation.

They are less awful ways to communicate a sentiment about geopolitics.

19 The War TARDIS  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:13:58pm

re: #18 The Ghost of a Flea

Ok, how’s this?

The stupid reputation France has in the US should be applied to Germany instead.

20 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:36:35pm

Too bad he can’t call Saul:


Haha.

21 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:42:54pm

re: #20 Lidane

Too bad he can’t call Saul:

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Haha.

22 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:49:58pm

Pie in the sky deep thinking at The Week:

Ralph Nader is right: We need a billionaire presidential candidate

Featuring a photo of Oprah Winfrey?

Jon Terbush is riffing on Nader’s suggestion that “modestly enlightened rich people” could make ideal political leaders, which sounds suspiciously like Plato’s Republic, which even Plato knew couldn’t possibly work as a political system.

The conclusion:

Still, the idea of a billionaire candidate is, generally speaking, a good one. A self-funded billionaire could reshape our electoral system and offer a true independent option. And really, would a billionaire buying his way into the White House be much worse than the money-saturated system we already have?

I would say, yes, while pointing out that rich guys have already served as president, with mixed results. How about changing the “money-saturated system” to correct abuses?

Naah. Too hard.

23 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:51:25pm
24 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:51:43pm

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi

Pie in the sky deep thinking at The Week:

Ralph Nader is right: We need a billionaire presidential candidate

Featuring a photo of Oprah Winfrey?

Jon Terbush is riffing on Nader’s suggestion that “modestly enlightened rich people” could make ideal political leaders, which sounds suspiciously like Plato’s Republic, which even Plato knew couldn’t possibly work as a political system.

The conclusion:

I would say, yes, while pointing out that rich guys have already served as president, with mixed results. How about changing the “money-saturated system” to correct abuses?

Naah. Too hard.

Nader’s master plan is the plot from Van Damme’s “Time Cop”?

25 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:53:38pm

re: #24 Kragar

Nader’s master plan is the plot from Van Damme’s “Time Cop”?

Yeah, and a few other SF dystopian futures. Nader has really run out of ideas. It’s well past time for Ralph to quietly retire from the public stage. HIs 15 minutes were up decades ago.

26 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:54:06pm

Some days ago I posted about Harold Wheeler getting the boot from DWTS, which was motivated by both ABC wanting to spend less on musicians (he had 18 in his band) and wanting to reach a younger crowd.

Well, when co-host Brook Burke-Charvet also got kicked out a couple of days ago there was some confusion, but now it seems pretty clear that she, too, was considered too old for the job. Now, some internet feminist sites have latched on to what ABC is doing with DWTS:

First, the basic story:

‘Dancing With the Stars’ seeks young male viewers

Jezebel picks it up:

DWTS Wants Erin Andrews to Bring a ‘Young Male Following’ to the Show

However, Amanda Marcotte thinks this will not work:

Erin Andrews Will Not Persuade Men to Watch Dancing with the Stars

My take-a-way is this: women, if you’re over 40 then Hollywood says you are past your sell-by date.

Personally, when comparing the two side-by-side, like E!Online has done:
Dancing With the Stars Replaced Brooke Burke-Charvet With Erin Andrews to Lure Younger Viewers, Sources Say

I’d still rather have the over-40 Charvet than the 35 y.o. Andrews, but then again maybe I’m too old to fit the new ABC demographic goal.

27 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:56:32pm

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi

When even Ralph Nader succumbs to the worship of mammon, you know our society is gone.

28 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:57:17pm

re: #26 freetoken

If they revised the show’s format to be “Pole Dancing with the Stars” or “Stripshow Dancing with the Stars,” they could easily attract the young male demographic. Well, any male demographic, in fact.

Swapping out older hosts for younger ones at DWTS is a bit like swapping out Lawrence Welk for some new fellow, but keeping the same band and the same music.

29 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:57:50pm

That is such an old idea, like most ideas, and is nothing more than the belief that if someone is rich then God/gods/Heaven is demonstrating his/their “blessing” onto that person.

30 austin_blue  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:59:14pm

re: #25 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, and a few other SF dystopian futures. Nader has really run out of ideas. It’s well past time for Ralph to quietly retire from the public stage. HIs 15 minutes were up decades ago.

Well, let’s be honest, 40 years, not 15 minutes. He cost Gore the 2000 election.

But, yes, time for Ralph to open a nice falafel shop.

//

31 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:00:42pm

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi

The problem with DWTS is simply this: over exposure.

Having two series per year is ridiculous. The mothership over in the UK does Strictly Come Dancing once a year, in the fall, and this last fall’s ratings still had it easily beating its arch-rival X-factor.

ABC did this to themselves. Like all American large media companies they will ride any winning horse to death, as fast and furiously as they can. This has led to overexposure and too short build-up to the story-lines.

32 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:03:21pm

re: #29 freetoken

That is such an old idea, like most ideas, and is nothing more than the belief that if someone is rich then God/gods/Heaven is demonstrating his/their “blessing” onto that person.

It’s an elitist, quasi-libertarian notion, that somehow rich people are inherently “better” than the not rich. Consider what could happen if Marc Andreessen were president. Or one of the Kochs. Or Bill Gates. These three represent different positions along the political spectrum, and none of them are suitable as president, for equally different reasons.

33 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:07:18pm

Better hurry, don’t want to miss out on this opportunity:

Mein Kampf books signed by Hitler to be auctioned

Hmmm… maybe if Germany had billionaire leaders in the first couple of decades of 20th century then the rest of the century might have turned out differently?

Oh… wait… the old leaders of Germany were the very rich German aristocracy…. oh, well, never mind.

34 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:15:46pm
35 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:16:20pm

…coupled with this government’s current actions internationally and domestically.

What is this the freaking Tea Party?

36 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:19:38pm

re: #34 Gus

It’s the same tweeter who posted this:

North Korea?

Really?

37 Kragar  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:21:02pm

re: #34 Gus

38 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:21:19pm

re: #36 freetoken

It’s the same tweeter who posted this:

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North Korea?

Really?

The derp is deep with this one.

39 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:26:02pm

The conspiracy business, while not the oldest profession in the world, is pretty old. Yet I still marvel at how our modern toys has let the particular old business thrive (as it has done for the oldest profession.)

40 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:28:15pm

...

41 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:28:58pm

Take two.

42 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:32:49pm
43 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:33:41pm

Another noble but ultimately futile effort by our intelligentsia:

SCIENCE ACADEMIES EXPLAIN GLOBAL WARMING REALITY

Man-made global warming is worsening and will disrupt both the natural world and human society, warns a joint report of two of the world’s leading scientific organizations.

The U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Royal Society, which is the national scientific academy of the United Kingdom, are releasing an unusual plain language report on climate change that addressed 20 issues in a question-and-answer format.

[…]

The NAS report goes along with this live webcast Thursday:

A Discussion on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes

Here’s the PDF of the full report:

Here’s the catechism version:

The short version, only 8 pages:

I expect Fox to roll out Krauthammer to dismiss it all as liberal propaganda.

44 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:35:32pm

I forgot we now have fancy new auto-embedding of PDFs.

Neat.

45 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:37:19pm

Currently the twitter feed on #NASRSclimate is pretty quiet.

46 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:41:24pm
47 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:41:34pm
48 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:42:56pm

Shit going down in Crimea.

49 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:46:46pm

Just looking at Lidane’s synopsis of freeper comments on the previous thread. The right wing has completely lost whatever sanity and patriotism they had left, and quite possibly their sense of self-preservation as well. They could be in the streets with their AR-15s by daylight. In the meantime, the Russians are poised to invade Ukraine, our planes and ships could easily clash with them, and the usual suspects (North Korea etc.) are on hand to take advantage when chaos beckons.
Should be an interesting second half of the week.

50 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:48:48pm

re: #48 Gus

Shit going down in Crimea.

This all seems so… 1920.

51 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:50:06pm

I posted this tweet:

It only took a minute for junkmail to show up in my email, “replying” to this tweet.

Something is seriously wrong with twitter security.

52 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:08:45pm

The following is an example of what I consider the important social phenomenon regarding climate change and why our noble intelligentsia have such a small effect on what our society is doing about AGW (and other matters):

Reporter addresses climate change

Justin Gillis, an environmental reporter for The New York Times, said at a lecture in Hesburgh Library on Wednesday that he wants to awaken people to the urgency of the climate change.

But the reality is, according to the human experience, climate change is not “urgent”.

Indeed, the next paragraph goes on:

Gillis, one of only six American reporters covering the climate crisis full-time defined climate change as “a big, slow-moving, long-term problem.”

Without trying to sound too pedantic, for someone to declare an issue as “urgent” in one breath and then in the next describe it as “slow-moving, long-term” - then that person is incoherent.

What is happening in the Crimea right now is “urgent”, by human standards.

Gillis is all too easy an example of what I’ll label as the well intended but not quite self-aware 21st century American “progressive”. There is a real crevasse between the idealized world and our material world. In an ideal world, knowledge should lead to a rational action, in this particular case one of self-preservation. Yet the problem with H. sapiens, one of many, is that our actions cause effects that far, far out live us. If our actions are based, as evidence supports, on near term perceived risks and rewards, then climate change will not have much of an influence on any single human’s behavior.

This conundrum is not a new revelation, but there are factions of the American progressive that seem quite hesitant to discuss this openly. I suspect there are deeper motivations here, about the human need to keep our fears in the closets of our mind.

53 Lidane  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:10:48pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

Just looking at Lidane’s synopsis of freeper comments on the previous thread. The right wing has completely lost whatever sanity and patriotism they had left, and quite possibly their sense of self-preservation as well. They could be in the streets with their AR-15s by daylight.

Gotta make sure their scooters are fully charged first. Having backup batteries on hand would help too.

54 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:18:17pm

Just got on the computer to find that Governor Brewer had vetoed HB 1062.

I could imagine the blowup if she had not: the NFL pulling out of the Super Bowl, head assplosions over the NFL “caving into Big Gay”, etc…

Not to mention the cascade of lawsuits and the prospect of federal marshalls escorting gay wedding parties into the local Denny’s…

55 Jayleia  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:23:51pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

If they do, their best chance of victory is for them to hope we suffer mass casualties from ROFLing at them

56 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:28:29pm

Jim Lange, ‘The Dating Game’ host, dies

Jim Lange, the first host of the popular game show “The Dating Game,” has died at his home in Mill Valley, Calif. He was 81.

[…]

MP3 Audio

57 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:50:40pm

Wingnuts are gonna be inconsolable for at least a day, as they try desperately to figure out how the failure to legalize bigotry in Arizona failed when they “know” that the majority of Americans totally agree with them.

58 freetoken  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:52:45pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Wingnuts are gonna be inconsolible for at least a day, as they try desperately to figure out how the failure to legalize bigotry in Arizona failed when they “know” that the majority of Americans totally agree with them.

And more importantly, when they know God was on their side.

59 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:59:33pm

re: #26 freetoken

Are you freakin serious? They say Burke can’t attract young males?
And yes, I agree with you, not that the other girl is ugly, I just have always thought Brooke was stunning, and very young looking!

60 Gus  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:59:38pm
61 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:59:40pm

There is an absolutist view of property here as well: “I own this business, I don’t hve to serve anybody I don’t want to!” is the thinking.

But if it is a public business, then it is accessed by public roads and streets. And if you wished to evict someone from your premises, you would have to call the police to do so.

This is something they can and will do if you can make the case that the unwanted persons are causing a disturbance or interfering with your ability to do business. But not for being gay or black or Muslim or whatever…

62 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:02:24am

Well I just had an interesting accidental run in with The Australian Tea Party site. It’s very Twilight Zone-y because they keep using the American and the Don’t tread on me flag and all of their talking points and hero’s are American Wingnuts!

63 Lidane  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:07:19am
64 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:11:07am

Dang it! Always late to the party! Oh well guess I’ll just have to post pics of Birthing Dolls!

She’s Dilated!

Almost!

65 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:11:33am

re: #63 Lidane

LOVE!

66 joe90  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:12:18am

re: #62 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11

The latest talking points arrive here in New Zealand within minutes, hot off the wingnut press.

67 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:12:29am

re: #60 Gus

Yes, it is finally going to rain.

It’s been a long time since we’ve had a good downpour.

So far this year we’ve only had one storm and that totaled to only a quarter of an inch of rain.

Now, it looks like in the next 5 days we’re going to get the entire season’s allotment.

68 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:12:53am

re: #64 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11

LADY PARTS!!

69 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:14:24am

re: #66 joe90

Lucky You! There goes my fantasy of New Zealanders being some freakishly perfect people.

70 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:15:36am

A few hours ago Mullah Mohler tweeted this:

The faithful are lapping it up.

But look, just immediately preceding he tweeted this:

Someone noticed:

71 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:17:12am
72 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:19:55am
73 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:22:27am
74 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:31:08am

Wow, Gus. A little scary.

75 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:31:33am
76 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:32:35am

I want those B-47s at every airport and air base one the east coast cocked and ready!

77 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:34:30am

We’re probably going to have to realize that Crimea has been at least partially “Russian” for a very long time.

Not only are we not going to go to war for Crimea, but I doubt the EU will do much about this other than huff and puff.

Personally I see no reason for American blood and money to go to the defense of Ukranian nationalist claims over Crimea. Unless Moscow gets over ambitious and wants to move westward into other parts of the Ukraine, and the EU wants to do something about it, then I say we play the role of using our good offices to mediate to reduce violence.

78 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:34:37am
79 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:37:25am

re: #77 freetoken

We’re probably going to have to realize that Crimea has been at least partially “Russian” for a very long time.

Not only are we not going to go to war for Crimea, but I doubt the EU will do much about this other than huff and puff.

Personally I see no reason for American blood and money to go to the defense of Ukranian nationalist claims over Crimea. Unless Moscow gets over ambitious and wants to move westward into other parts of the Ukraine, and the EU wants to do something about it, then I say we play the role of using our good offices to mediate to reduce violence.

No way. This is it man! It’s over. It’s all over. //

80 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:38:59am

Beware of Anglophiles who want to refight the Crimean War.

81 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:39:37am
82 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:43:15am

re: #80 freetoken

Beware of Anglophiles who want to refight the Crimean War.

83 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:43:19am

re: #81 Gus

Lots of pollution coming out of those old engines.

84 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:45:09am

re: #83 freetoken

Lots of pollution coming out of those old engines.

Probably less than developing a replacement. ;)

85 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:52:26am

re: #81 Gus

Narrator brags: “No other country in the world could do what you just saw.”

I assume he did not mean turning the air of North Dakota into resembling that of Beijing in under 10 minutes?

86 dell*nix  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:53:48am

Good old water-alcohol injection. Lots of exhaust fumes.

87 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 1:31:31am

Dear Russia.
Don’t be fucking stupid.
Just don’t.

..
.
You’re going to be fucking stupid, aren’t you?
Sigh.

88 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 1:56:24am

Heh, I got the timing right - got the Page up just 4 minutes after the RS tweeted:

89 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 2:01:41am

I got the following error when viewing my Page:

You’ve reached the bandwidth limit for viewing or downloading files that aren’t in Google Docs format. Please try again later.
You can also try to download the original document by clicking here.

Is that tied to my IP, or is this something to do with the PDF embedding code?

90 freetoken  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 2:13:26am
91 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 2:15:23am

re: #89 freetoken

I got the following error when viewing my Page:

Is that tied to my IP, or is this something to do with the PDF embedding code?

You broke Google. Now we have to use Bing …


No, I’m getting the same message. I think LGF is overextending its welcome there.

92 Lidane  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 2:26:40am
93 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:06:51am

Yanuk is no doubt getting brave now that he’s in Russia…funny how money and power can make you pathetically delusional.

Reports: Yanukovych is in Russia; overthrown Ukraine president vows to ‘fight to the end’ (UPDATE)

kyivpost.com

“Moscow - Viktor Yanukovych has made an address to the people of Ukraine to declare that he still considers himself the legitimately elected president of Ukraine. In the meantime, citing a Russian government source, Yanukovych is being provided security in Russia.

“I, Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych, am addressing the people of Ukraine. I still believe myself to be the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state elected in a free vote by Ukrainian citizens,” says the address obtained by Interfax on Feb. 27.

“The Kyiv Post could not independently confirm the authenticity of the statement.”

Obviously, though, Yanuk thinks those who fucked over Ukrainians all these years should be able to get away with all of it: theft, cheating, denial of rights, corruption, murder.

94 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:27:48am

What a mess…

Two killed, 30 injures as armed men storm government buildings in Crimea (UPDATE)

kyivpost.com

“Russia’s Black Sea fleet is stationed in the port of Sevastopol. Crimea is also home to more than a million ethnic Russians, as well as ethnic Urkainains and Tatars, a group victimized by Soviet ruler Josef Stalin during World War II, whose first language is Russian.

“Russia’s foreign ministry said through a statement that the Kremlin was prepared to defend the rights of its compatriots and would react appropriately to any violation of them.

“Russian President Vladimir Putin has thus far not responded to some calls by ethnic Russians in Crimea to reclaim the peninsula, which was turned over to Soviet Ukraine in 1954.”

95 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:43:30am

Another unresolved legacy of the USSR falling apart…it did not use to matter who Crimea belonged to, it was a mere administrative formality. But since then it has been an open sore and the issues of the Black Sea Fleet, the ethnic Russian minority and the Criman Tatars are going to keep it festering.

And Putin is now threatening to ride in on horseback with a bare chest that will deflect bullets…

96 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:27:16am

Regarding Post #64

Some of us are at work.

Just sayin’

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:28:41am

I got a bunch of wingnut derp last night over Fake Quotes and Drug Testing for Welfare Recipients.


Not worth having a conversation with.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:29:56am

Max Blumenthal, what a sweetie.

99 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:31:55am

A Psalm, a Prayer for the Butthurt

100 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:45:57am

And the BAKER did weepe and gnash his teethe as he was forcyede to putte the figure of the manne next to ANOTHER manne upon the weddynge cake…

And he did spytte upon the frostynge to shewe his disgustte…

101 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:47:48am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And the BAKER did weepe and gnash his teethe as he was forcyede to putte the figure of the manne next to ANOTHER manne upon the weddynge cake…

And he did spytte upon the frostynge to shewe his disgustte…

From the Canterbury Derps, yes?

102 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:54:00am

re: #101 The Ghost of a Flea

From the Canterbury Derps, yes?

From the hitherto unknown Fischere’s Tale.

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:57:18am

re: #102 wheat-dogghazi

From the hitherto unknown Fischere’s Tale.

Ye Lyffe of Bryanne

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:00:04am
105 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:03:03am

See, this is why we need 15 round magazines:

Ohio man expected to survive after 14 shots

seattlepi.com

106 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:16:46am
107 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:26:42am

In the past 3 years, $70 billion went out of Ukraine’s financial system into offshore accounts, PM-designate Arseniy Yatsenyuk says - @Reuters
end of alert

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:29:09am

Judge: Final order requiring Ky. to recognize same-sex marriages expected Thursday

LOUISVILLE — A federal judge said Wednesday afternoon that he would issue a final order within 24 hours requiring Kentucky to immediately recognize same-sex marriages performed outside the state.
Heyburn told lawyers that his final order will not include a stay postponing it from taking effect. “There could be some confusion” among Kentuckians who quickly seek legal benefits stemming from their same-sex marriages, such as joint tax-filing status, if the state appeals 30 days later and delays the implementation of the order or throws its future into question, Heyburn cautioned.
Gov. Steve Beshear and Attorney General Jack Conway, both Democrats, are defendants in the lawsuit. Attorneys for the state did not introduce evidence against same-sex marriage while the suit was being argued, limiting the case to issues of law.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:37:41am

Good morning Lizards! A chilly 21F in Philadelphia with some clouds floating about as well.

Brewer’s veto just a temporary setback for the tide of Derp and bigotry. Expect a few states to get further with similar attempts, and probably Arizona coming around for another try with a bill with more nebulous wording, or simply attached at a late hour as a rider to something else.

110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:42:36am

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

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Sebastopol has a lot of patriotic and emotional significance for Russia, for the Crimean War battles, and the herioc defense against the Germans in WWII.

111 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:42:54am

New interim govt formed.

“The proposed new Cabinet is heavy on members of ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko’s Batkivshchyna Party.”

In fact, Arseniy Yatseniuk is probably a stand-in for Yulia Tymoshenko; we’ll see what she does in the next 3 mos.

It’s a mixed bag, but this one stood out immediately:

Oleksandr Sych

Oleksandr Sych, 49, was appointed deputy prime minister. This Svoboda Party member from Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast had a swift rise since his party made it to parliament. He has made some highly controversial moves in parliament since his election.

One of his legal initiatives was an attempt to ban all abortions, even for pregnancies that occurred during rape, an idea that caused a massive outcry among human rights groups. He also famously recommended women to “lead the kind of lifestyle to avoid the risk of rape, including one from drinking alcohol and being in controversial company.” It’s not clear what area of the economy he will supervise as deputy prime minister.

kyivpost.com

New elections in 3 months, so there’s that. Get rid of some of these bums, esp from the RWNJ Svoboda Party, that managed to wiggle their way into the new govt.

I don’t think people in Ukraine want the “new boss same as old boss” syndrome operative anymore.

112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:44:23am

re: #111 Justanotherhuman

He also famously recommended women to “lead the kind of lifestyle to avoid the risk of rape, including one from drinking alcohol and being in controversial company.

Right in line with GOP policy on rape prevention.

113 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:50:50am
114 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:52:18am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He also famously recommended women to “lead the kind of lifestyle to avoid the risk of rape, including one from drinking alcohol and being in controversial company.

Right in line with GOP policy on rape prevention.

Exactly, this new Parliament is going to have its share of ‘baggers, it seems. Svoboda is the Tea Party of Ukraine from what I can gather.

But this guy is a deputy prime minister—not just any old MP.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:53:42am

I’m trying to think of a new pie for this week. I keep having this idea of a pie crust (or maybe a gingersnap crust), filled with brownie mix, then a tiramisu cream and then whipped cream.

116 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:57:36am
117 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:00:03am

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m trying to think of a new pie for this week. I keep having this idea of a pie crust (or maybe a gingersnap crust), filled with brownie mix, then a tiramisu cream and then whipped cream.

Go whole hog—with an Oreo crumb crust. : )

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:00:52am
119 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:01:35am

re: #88 freetoken

Meanwhile CNBC’s Joe Kernan claims climate change is witchcraft.

120 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:01:43am

re: #117 Justanotherhuman

Go whole hog—with an Oreo crumb crust. : )

Oh, and chocolate curls on top of the whipped cream. : )

121 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:01:58am

So now that the Olympics are over, shit gets real with Russia. Le sigh.

122 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:03:20am

re: #117 Justanotherhuman

Go whole hog—with an Oreo crumb crust. : )

I’ve done the Oreo crust and it’s very, very intense. It would be too much in this case, I’d rather go with a regular paste crust or a graham crust.

123 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:04:48am

re: #119 lawhawk

Meanwhile CNBC’s Joe Kernan claims climate change is witchcraft.

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People like Kernan wouldn’t mind if we all died while he (well, his masters) hoarded all the gold on their own little flooded island.

Obsequious Midas worshiper.

124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:06:50am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

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look at that graph again: True Bluer vs rainbow! CUTS ARE CULTURAL SUICIDE!!!

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:06:54am

On the contrary, those apartment buildings are packed with cougars.

126 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:09:00am

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

How often are people out west threatened by (four-legged) cougars?

127 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:10:15am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve done the Oreo crust and it’s very, very intense. It would be too much in this case, I’d rather go with a regular paste crust or a graham crust.

Thinking like a chocoholic here. : )

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:11:05am

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi

How often are people out west threatened by (four-legged) cougars?

When they build houses out in the cougars’ natural habitat.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:12:13am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

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Yep. We need to cut our defense spending in 1/2. We don’t need all the carriers we have much less are building. We don’t need destroyers pretending to be starships. We still have too many boomers. We still have too many ICBMs. We have more than enough tanks. The F22 & F35 projects need to go to the same place as the MBT-70 went for the same reasons. We have far too many divisions of foot soldiers. The Army needs to be given the ground support mission since the Air Farce doesn’t want it and they need to be cut back drastically as well. If an argument can be made that we need new airframes, reopen the F15, F16 & A10 lines until ACM capable & stealthy drones are available.

There is exactly one place I do not want to see cuts - our forces on the Korean peninsula because I don’t want Little Freak starting another war.

130 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:12:22am

HURR HURR TROOFS!!!!!!!!
Actually not “Troofs” just a bunch of marketing slogans.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:13:14am
132 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:14:21am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve done the Oreo crust and it’s very, very intense. It would be too much in this case, I’d rather go with a regular paste crust or a graham crust.

I like the idea of graham in this case. Preferably with the blandest graham you can find. Let it be a contrast to the brownie & cream. Sprinkle some semi-sweet or dark chocolate chips on the top of the whipped cream?

133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:16:02am

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi

How often are people out west threatened by (four-legged) cougars?

When they build homes and subdivisions in areas already populated by cougars.

134 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:16:13am
135 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:16:35am

re: #130 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR TROOFS!!!!!!!!
Actually not “Troofs” just a bunch of marketing slogans.

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Only a person who fears retribution for thinking like that could have made that list.

Slaves will rise up, and so will workers.

The wealthy and their well-paid hangers-on will always fear what they themselves have created.

136 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:16:48am

I don’t know what infuriates me more this morning:

That Jan Brewer vetoed 1062 only out of fear of the backlash that would result if her state actually enacted the law that its representatives eagerly voted for.

Or that there are people that are angry that she didn’t sign it.

Your daily dose of Meteor Summoning:

Summon the Meteors

137 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:17:15am

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi

How often are people out west threatened by (four-legged) cougars?

Relatively often. The cougar has been making a comeback, especially throughout California. Joggers, especially petite women jogging, are easily mistaken as prey by ambush hunting cougars.

Personally I have more concern with various kinds of bear or feral (possibly rabid) dogs.

138 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:17:23am
139 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:20:21am

re: #137 William Barnett-Lewis

Relatively often. The cougar has been making a comeback, especially throughout California. Joggers, especially petite women jogging, are easily mistaken as prey by ambush hunting cougars.

Personally I have more concern with various kinds of bear or feral (possibly rabid) dogs.

That was really my question. I know cougars and humans are meeting more often, because humans are encroaching into cougar habitats, but what’s the incidence rate? Once a day, once a month? In other words, is carrying a gun for protection against cougar (or bear or feral dog) attacks a valid argument?

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:20:47am

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

Only a person who fears retribution for thinking like that could have made that list.

Slaves will rise up, and so will workers.

The wealthy and their well-paid hangers-on will always fear what they themselves have created.

That list was originally thought up by William Boetcker, a “motivational speaker” from 100 years ago who apparently made a bunch of money by going around telling the very rich not to feel guilty about not sharing their wealth.

His “Troofs” mistakenly got attributed to Lincoln in a pamphlet, and misquoted by Ronald Reagan.

141 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:23:09am

Like ceiling cat, the UK spy agencies are watching you masturbate.

142 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:23:51am

re: #140 Pie-onist Overlord

That list was originally thought up by William Boetcker, a “motivational speaker” from 100 years ago who apparently made a bunch of money by going around telling the very rich not to feel guilty about not sharing their wealth.

His “Troofs” mistakenly got attributed to Lincoln in a pamphlet, and misquoted by Ronald Reagan.

Yes, Boetcker is described as an “outspoken conservative” Presbyterian minister. He served his masters well, as most “motivational” speakers do while lining their own pockets.

143 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:24:15am
144 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:25:22am

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

The part of Jan Brewer’s veto letter where she basically blames the existence of the anti-gay bill on Obama

she has to make it sound like she didn’t wanna veto this bill…she just had to,

145 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:26:00am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

she has to make it sound like she didn’t wanna veto this bill…she just had to,

Because Obama!

146 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:28:03am

Last paragraph (of course):

However, NSA spokeswoman Vanee Vines said the agency did not ask foreign partners such as GCHQ to collect intelligence the agency could not legally collect itself.

147 b.d.  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:29:45am

re: #143 darthstar

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I want to see pictures of what a Yahoo user looks like.

148 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:30:23am
149 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:32:20am

re: #147 b.d.

I want to see pictures of what a Yahoo user looks like.

Homemade porn, I’ll bet. : )

150 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:32:22am

How fitting, the Kaliningrad, named after another town (formerly East Prussian Königsberg) that the Soviets occupied after a war…

151 b.d.  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:33:50am
Sexually explicit webcam material proved to be a particular problem for GCHQ, as one document delicately put it: “Unfortunately … it would appear that a surprising number of people use webcam conversations to show intimate parts of their body to the other person. Also, the fact that the Yahoo software allows more than one person to view a webcam stream without necessarily sending a reciprocal stream means that it appears sometimes to be used for broadcasting pornography.”

Bold by me.


So GCHQ uploaded bulk chatterbate pitures?

152 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:35:42am

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

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Is the statue asking someone to pull his finger?

153 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:36:21am

re: #139 wheat-dogghazi

That was really my question. I know cougars and humans are meeting more often, because humans are encroaching into cougar habitats, but what’s the incidence rate? Once a day, once a month? In other words, is carrying a gun for protection against cougar (or bear or feral dog) attacks a valid argument?

Ok, sticking to cougars:
Here is a partial list of fatal attacks: en.wikipedia.org

This claims that about 25% of total attacks on children are fatal: books.google.com

Finally there is this which gives other numbers that imply an average of 4 attacks a year with one fatality: cougarinfo.org

There are far more bear and dog attacks annually which is why I say I am more concerned about them than cougars. However cougars, like wolves, tend to kick peoples fear levels higher and they want more protection - of whatever kind - from them. If I were hiking in bear country, I’d have bells on my hat, a can of bear spray and an appropriate firearm.

154 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:37:01am

re: #139 wheat-dogghazi

That was really my question. I know cougars and humans are meeting more often, because humans are encroaching into cougar habitats, but what’s the incidence rate? Once a day, once a month? In other words, is carrying a gun for protection against cougar (or bear or feral dog) attacks a valid argument?

You’d probably be better off having a dog with you than a gun. If a cougar is going to ambush you it will probably be *on* you faster than you draw. If you have a dog along it will probably be more of a deterrent and possibly an alternate target.

My brother-in-law had an encounter with a cougar in the Yampa Valley (western Colorado) back in the 90s. But that was special circumstances due to the cougar already being injured. Though it supposedly had stalked a neighbor a day or two before.

155 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:37:41am

re: #147 b.d.

I want to see pictures of what a Yahoo user looks like.

156 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:38:48am

bbl

157 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:40:01am

re: #151 b.d.

Bold by me.

So GCHQ uploaded bulk chatterbate pitures?

Yes, no law against it in the UK.

“GCHQ does not have the technical means to make sure no images of UK or US citizens are collected and stored by the system, and there are no restrictions under UK law to prevent Americans’ images being accessed by British analysts without an individual warrant.”

158 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:42:59am

re: #154 Feline Fearless Leader

You’d probably be better off having a dog with you than a gun. If a cougar is going to ambush you it will probably be *on* you faster than you draw. If you have a dog along it will probably be more of a deterrent and possibly an alternate target.

My brother-in-law had an encounter with a cougar in the Yampa Valley (western Colorado) back in the 90s. But that was special circumstances due to the cougar already being injured. Though it supposedly had stalked a neighbor a day or two before.

That was my initial reaction. Cougars hunt by stealth, so it would be on you before you had a chance to draw. It seems cougar attacks are not very frequent, judging from WBL’s research. There’s probably more danger from the local hunters firing their weapons indiscriminately.

159 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:43:10am
160 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:45:34am
161 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:48:08am
162 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:49:41am
163 Mattand  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:50:22am

I would love to see this promoted to the front page:

TPM Interview: The Brown Grad Student That Chased the NRA Out of Rhode Island

C’mon, people! Vote it up! If for no other reason, it shows the NRA will fold like a typical bully when someone stands up to them.

164 darthstar  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:52:54am


More here
boredpanda.com

165 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:54:24am

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

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166 RadicalModerate  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:55:04am

re: #143 darthstar

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Actually, in some parts of Europe and in Japan, Yahoo is significantly more popular that Google for web searches and services.

167 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:57:26am
168 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:57:46am

re: #97 Pie-onist Overlord

That sentiment has been a strong driver for the war on drugs. Never underestimate the self righteous!

169 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:58:01am

re: #162 darthstar

Different headlines send different message.

The WSJ, being a glad-handing tool of the fundamentalist nutjob right?

Stop the presses, this is breaking news.

170 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:00:26am

re: #153 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve done enough hiking in the national parks to know to announce my presence in bear country. I don’t carry bear spray, but do make a habit of humming/singing as we go along, and trying to stay in more populated areas (we don’t do back country hiking). Making enough noise gives the bear/critters a chance to scamper away.

But even with all that, the closest my wife got to a wild bear was in Yellowstone - about 25-30 feet away. It was on the elevated walkways at Mammoth. I saw the black bear and a group of people taking pictures from about 25-50 feet away, but I thought that was idiotic since the bear could change its mind from eating berries/flowers and decide to go after the closest person. I start taking pictures from about 75-100 feet away (still close, but with the walkway and people being closer, thought it was safe-ish. So I look around, and notice the Mrs. was not near me. She was in that close group. Had to give my adult come-here voice. The novelty of being close to a wild bear overcame her common sense (and that of everyone else in that group).

At least that was a small-ish black bear. Grizzly? Seen those at about 100-300 yards, and even then that’s close. Park rangers had to shoo people away from a group of bears feeding on carcass. Heard later that the rangers decided to move the carcass into the woods to keep people from congregating and putting themselves at risk of an attack. After all, the grizzly bears can hit 30-40 mph for a sustained burst, and can do some serious damage.

171 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:02:12am

What about Nilla crackers?

172 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:02:43am

re: #171 Amory Blaine

What about Nilla crackers?

Those make a good piecrust too.

173 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:03:10am

re: #172 Pie-onist Overlord

Those make a good piecrust too.

Oh my yes.

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:06:29am

re: #170 lawhawk

We were in Banff in the early 70s on a family vacation and went hiking in an area that had signs advising people to make noise since grizzlies were in the area. My father later remarked that it was the only time on the trip where all three of his children were silent. :p

He actually instructed us as we were walking along that the eldest said “Snap”, the middle child said “Crackle” and then the youngest said “Pop”.

The other major hiker threat was where the trail ran alongside a pond created by a beaver dam. The moose used the trail and went into the pond to graze on lilypads and such. They make *big* tracks.

175 kirkspencer  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:06:36am

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m trying to think of a new pie for this week. I keep having this idea of a pie crust (or maybe a gingersnap crust), filled with brownie mix, then a tiramisu cream and then whipped cream.

Ladyfinger or spongecake crumb, maybe?

176 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:07:10am
177 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:07:17am
178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:08:06am

re: #174 Feline Fearless Leader

He actually instructed us as we were walking along that the eldest said “Snap”, the middle child said “Crackle” and then the youngest said “Pop”.

big updings for that

179 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:08:52am

re: #176 NJDhockeyfan

Ukraine’s fugitive Pres. Yanukovych says he has asked Russia to ensure his personal security after receiving threats, Interfax reports

They should move him in with Snowden…

180 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:09:12am

re: #154 Feline Fearless Leader

You’d probably be better off having a dog with you than a gun. If a cougar is going to ambush you it will probably be *on* you faster than you draw. If you have a dog along it will probably be more of a deterrent and possibly an alternate target.

My brother-in-law had an encounter with a cougar in the Yampa Valley (western Colorado) back in the 90s. But that was special circumstances due to the cougar already being injured. Though it supposedly had stalked a neighbor a day or two before.

Maybe, but a gun is far less demanding to own than a dog. Less expensive, too. And some people, including me, just plain don’t want a pet with the high energy of an active dog.

181 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:11:42am

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

Maybe, but a gun is far less demanding to own than a dog. Less expensive, too. And some people, including me, just plain don’t want a pet with the high energy of an active dog.

All true. And there are additional precautions that can be taken as well to avoid being considered puma chow.

182 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:12:02am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How fitting, the Kaliningrad, named after another town (formerly East Prussian Königsberg) that the Soviets occupied after a war…

Capable of carrying a full strength motorized infantry company and its BTR APCs. It can also carry 10 T-80 or T-90 MBTs.

All in all, its a fairly typical LST. It’s what’s inside it that you have to worry about.

183 Mattand  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:12:09am

re: #170 lawhawk

I’ve done enough hiking in the national parks to know to announce my presence in bear country. I don’t carry bear spray, but do make a habit of humming/singing as we go along, and trying to stay in more populated areas (we don’t do back country hiking). Making enough noise gives the bear/critters a chance to scamper away.

But even with all that, the closest my wife got to a wild bear was in Yellowstone - about 25-30 feet away. It was on the elevated walkways at Mammoth. I saw the black bear and a group of people taking pictures from about 25-50 feet away, but I thought that was idiotic since the bear could change its mind from eating berries/flowers and decide to go after the closest person. I start taking pictures from about 75-100 feet away (still close, but with the walkway and people being closer, thought it was safe-ish. So I look around, and notice the Mrs. was not near me. She was in that close group. Had to give my adult come-here voice. The novelty of being close to a wild bear overcame her common sense (and that of everyone else in that group).

At least that was a small-ish black bear. Grizzly? Seen those at about 100-300 yards, and even then that’s close. Park rangers had to shoo people away from a group of bears feeding on carcass. Heard later that the rangers decided to move the carcass into the woods to keep people from congregating and putting themselves at risk of an attack. After all, the grizzly bears can hit 30-40 mph for a sustained burst, and can do some serious damage.

I had a similar incident in the Poconos back in September. I was walking the dog in the residential community we were renting in. As we approached one of the neighbor’s driveways, I looked up and thought, “Huh. Don’t remember seeing that bear statue there before.”

Then the statue started walking down the driveway.

I later measured the distance and it came out to about 70 yards. I’m guessing it was a black bear, about the size of a two person sofa. I had the presence of mind to not panic and take one picture with my iPod. Upon lowering the device, I noticed Yogi was starting to casually stroll in our direction.

I tried to walk away, but my canine companion had caught sight of the bear and was like “What is it? Can I see it? Huh? Huh? Huh?” Fortunately, I was able to talk some sense into him.

The corker of the whole incident is that being a good neighbor, I called 911 to warn the cops, thinking that a bear in a neighborhood full of kids is something they’d want to know about.

I might as well have been calling in a rabbit or deer sighting. They pretty much told me that unless the bear was killing someone, they just let them be.

Interesting experience, but from now on, I’ll limit my bear encounters to zoos and animated films.

Hey, Boo Boo! Let’s go to the maul!!!

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:12:57am
185 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:14:44am

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

Anyone worrying about cougar attacks who doesn’t work as raw-meat-and-aniseed-carrier in Yosemite is a fucking moron. You have a much better chance of being killed by cows.

186 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:15:51am

WTF is he talking about?
Folks, you have EVERY RIGHT to demand SERVICE IN A PUBLIC VENUE.

187 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:16:39am

re: #185 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Anyone worrying about cougar attacks who doesn’t work as raw-meat-and-aniseed-carrier in Yosemite is a fucking moron. You have a much better chance of being killed by cows.

I was charged by a cow once.
Ran right in to the fence.
Scary.

188 Mattand  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:16:42am

re: #185 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Anyone worrying about cougar attacks who doesn’t work as raw-meat-and-aniseed-carrier in Yosemite is a fucking moron. You have a much better chance of being killed by cows.

That’s udderly ridiculous.

Yes, I’ll milk this for all its worth.

But you’ve probably herd it all before.

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:17:08am

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

WTF is he talking about?
Folks, you have EVERY RIGHT to demand SERVICE IN A PUBLIC VENUE.

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Then Ben agrees with staying out of ladyparts…

190 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:17:15am

re: #188 Mattand

That’s udderly ridiculous.

Yes, I’ll milk this for all its worth.

But you’ve probably herd it all before.

I believe the penalty is death.
/

191 Mattand  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:19:08am

re: #190 Varek Raith

I believe the penalty is death.
/

I moove for a mistrail.

192 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:20:23am

re: #191 Mattand

I moove for a mistrail.

Denied.
PEWPEWPEW.

193 Mattand  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:21:29am

re: #192 Varek Raith

Denied.
PEWPEWPEW.

Just don’t shoot me in the calf.

194 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:21:39am

re: #187 Varek Raith

I was charged by a cow once.
Ran right in to the fence.
Scary.

It would have been better for the cow if you’d only been seen and not herd.

195 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:21:49am

re: #185 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Anyone worrying about cougar attacks who doesn’t work as raw-meat-and-aniseed-carrier in Yosemite is a fucking moron. You have a much better chance of being killed by cows.

Depends on job and where you are. My brother-in-law raises horses on a small spread in the Yampa Valley. Up and about before dawn in an areas with lots of wildlife, cows, etc.

And he has lost foals to cougar attacks. Which is why he doesn’t like them. But he is also well educated and open minded enough to understand that he is sharing the area with them and there are precautions to take.

His main ire from his close encounter with one is with the local sheriff’s office and the BLM. The latter denies (or at least denied at the time) that there are mountain lions in that section of the Yampa Valley. The former failed to notify anyone in the area for over 24 hours after someone reported hitting a cougar with a car on US-40 nearby. Said injured cougar was discovered hiding out in a irrigation ditch culvert 40’ from my brother-in-law’s barn.

196 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:23:02am

re: #193 Mattand

Just don’t shoot me in the calf.

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

It would have been better for the cow if you’d only been seen and not herd.

*Lobs grenades*

197 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:24:00am

I wish someone would explain the phenomenon of sending photos of your reproductive attributes to perfect strangers just because you can?

This kind of “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” is so old hat, after all. We did it when I was 6 yrs old, hiding in the crawl space of a house so we wouldn’t get caught, boys and girls.

Do people pick out others to date by this method, or do they try to get to know someone in person, as a person, before they actually want a look-see?

I am so out of the loop on this new “social” internet behavior. I’m assuming it’s not a prerequisite for a job, or anything most people engage in, is it? : )

198 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:26:09am

re: #195 Feline Fearless Leader

Depends on job and where you are. My brother-in-law raises horses on a small spread in the Yampa Valley. Up and about before dawn in an areas with lots of wildlife, cows, etc.

Nah, even there, he’s much more likely to get killed by a cow than a cougar—not that that is actually that likely anyway. It’s just not something that’s likely to happen.

Is there a word for, like, hypochondria but with physical acts? I’ve got a friend of mine who’s scared that a raccoon will come into his house at night, scratch him, and the wounds will get infected.

199 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:26:38am

re: #196 Varek Raith

*Lobs grenades*

You forgot to untape the handles, so the fuses never lit. Bit unfortunate for you…

[DF opens up with his AR-10. The third round that hits is a silver bullet that turns Varek to dust.]

I win.

200 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:26:43am

re: #197 Justanotherhuman

Sexually repressed society + method of broadcasting naughty bits to strangers with low chance of getting caught = STICK IT TO DA MAN!

201 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:27:37am

WTFITS, high fashion’s militia look?

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:27:49am


203 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:29:44am

re: #174 Feline Fearless Leader

Moose are crazy buggers.

204 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:32:10am

re: #198 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Nah, even there, he’s much more likely to get killed by a cow than a cougar—not that that is actually that likely anyway. It’s just not something that’s likely to happen.

Is there a word for, like, hypochondria but with physical acts? I’ve got a friend of mine who’s scared that a raccoon will come into his house at night, scratch him, and the wounds will get infected.

I don’t think he frets about getting cougar mauled himself. He’s more concerned about losing another foal to one and thus takes extra precautions along those lines until they’re better prepared to defend themselves.

Given that, he is living in proximity to them, and thus much more likely than me (for instance) to encounter one in the wild.*

* - Though I have half-jokingly advocated reintroducing them to cities in order to take care of oblivious pedestrians.

205 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:32:58am
206 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:33:04am

re: #177 Pie-onist Overlord

207 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:33:20am

Wingnut Derp O’The Day Talking Point

I was unaware the Planned Parenthood is kidnapping random pregnant African-American women off the streets and forcing them to have abortions against their will.

208 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:33:26am

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

The right is seriously fucking awful at making analogies.

209 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:34:11am

This is horrible. House of Trades building had wounded inside who were not able to escape and probably died from smoke inhalation or burned alive. The fires were ostensibly set by interior troops who had surrounded the bldg on 2/19, a precursor to the slaughter of 2/20.

House of Trade Unions fire: More bodies found and dramatic rescue

maidantranslations.wordpress.com

210 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:34:14am

re: #197 Justanotherhuman

I wish someone would explain the phenomenon of sending photos of your reproductive attributes to perfect strangers just because you can?

This kind of “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” is so old hat, after all. We did it when I was 6 yrs old, hiding in the crawl space of a house so we wouldn’t get caught, boys and girls.

Do people pick out others to date by this method, or do they try to get to know someone in person, as a person, before they actually want a look-see?

I am so out of the loop on this new “social” internet behavior. I’m assuming it’s not a prerequisite for a job, or anything most people engage in, is it? : )

It’s a matter of perspective. Shooting a selfie from behind is an end in itself, while turning around is simple effrontery.

211 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:34:30am

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

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Left’s perspective is that discrimination should not have legal protections. You want to turn people away from your business, then you should be prepared to defend that decision in a court of law.

212 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:34:47am

re: #208 Dr. Matt

The right is seriously fucking awful at making analogies.

IT’S A COOKBOOK!

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:35:45am

Meanwhile, in Canada:

214 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:36:54am

re: #210 Decatur Deb

It’s a matter of perspective. Shooting a selfie from behind is an end in itself, while turning around is simple effrontery.

Ha, loves it!

215 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:38:20am
216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:38:21am
217 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:39:53am

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

A person who doesn’t understand licenses?

218 kirkspencer  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:42:28am

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

Someone who doesn’t understand that “law” and “government” are rather interconnected?

219 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:43:12am

re: #218 kirkspencer

Someone who doesn’t understand that “law” and “government” are rather interconnected?

Especially when they use the term “citizen” as well.

220 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:43:20am

Haven’t gotten to check in here much this week…one of the feline overlords has been sick. After a couple of visits to the local vet without making much headway, I took Bella to the Super Duper Pet Hospital about a half hour away, where she spent the evening. The initial report I got this morning was she’s improving but they are still doing tests. She’s had me quite worried. Started not eating, being very lethargic.

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:45:06am

re: #220 Bulworth

Haven’t gotten to check in here much this week…one of the feline overlords has been sick. After a couple of visits to the local vet without making much headway, I took Bella to the Super Duper Pet Hospital about a half hour away, where she spent the evening. The initial report I got this morning was she’s improving but they are still doing tests. She’s had me quite worried. Started not eating, being very lethargic.

Hope the FO feels better soon and has not gotten something dangerous to her, or your checkbook.

222 Bear  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:45:16am

re: #220 Bulworth

Hope Bella gets back to her normal self fast.

223 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:45:20am

re: #218 kirkspencer

Someone who doesn’t understand that “law” and “government” are rather interconnected?

Someone who thinks business owners should be allowed to shun people they don’t like for whatever reason they wish. As long as the person being shunned isn’t them, of course. Then all Hell breaks loose, because at the core of that view is normally the person’s ego and their unwillingness to accept limits on themselves.

224 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:45:30am

re: #221 Feline Fearless Leader

Thanks, although checkbook is already doomed.

225 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:46:29am

re: #217 Feline Fearless Leader

Licenses, registrations, tax reporting obligations, health and safety inspections, employer/employee protections/rights/obligations, disclosure requirements for contract terms, etc.

226 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:46:53am

Minority bar owners say Racine conspired to put them out of business

Six former Racine tavern owners have sued the city, its tavern league, a downtown development organization and others contending they engaged in a successful conspiracy of racketeering and corruption to drive minority bar owners out of downtown Racine starting in 2006.

While subjecting minority tavern owners and would-be tavern owners to heightened regulatory and law enforcement scrutiny, the city rarely took similar actions or denied liquor license requests for white bar owners, who often took over the licenses revoked from minority business owners, the suit contends.

A Latino man who won a license after months of work — and being denied membership to the tavern league — was shut down by police when he finally opened in May last year, and was allowed to reopen only after the man’s brother dropped a recall effort against a powerful alderman, the suit contends.

227 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:48:13am

re: #224 Bulworth

Thanks, although checkbook is already doomed.

I went from elderly cat to young Feline Overlords and just realized that I haven’t had to visit the vet with one since last August. Just stop in now and then to say hello and get a bag of dry cat food for them.

Hmm, this is roughly the first anniversary of the new feline overlord reign. There will have to be a celebration.

228 bubba zanetti  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:49:11am

heh heh

229 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:49:32am

re: #226 Amory Blaine

Minority bar owners say Racine conspired to put them out of business

That’s Chicago-style corruption right there.

230 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:50:07am

re: #226 Amory Blaine

Minority bar owners say Racine conspired to put them out of business

Sounds like how things go in Madison.

231 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:50:55am

And today, the Record reports new details on un-redacted emails/messages between the principals in the GWB lane closure flap.


They make Wildstein, Kelly, and Baroni look even more petty than they already were.

Wildstein in particular looks particularly petty and vindictive, and then wonders about whether there’s a way that they can keep top Democrats from attending a Q/A with reporters, to which Baroni responds that they’d be slammed either way (he’s right about that, but asking the question shows that they knew what they were doing was wrong, the only question became how to engage in damage control).

More:

In the months after the lane closures, the documents show, Wildstein and others tried to stem the fallout. On Nov. 12, the day before a Port Authority commissioners’ meeting, Wildstein got a message from Baroni. “Are we being fired?” Baroni asked Wildstein at 7:24 p.m. There was no response that night.

At the meeting the next day, Wildstein and Baroni discussed keeping state Sen. Loretta Weinberg and Assemblyman John Wisniewski, the two Democrats now leading the investigation, from attending a question-and-answer session with reporters. Weinberg and Wisniewski appeared at the meeting to confront commissioners about the lane closures.

“Do we let Weinberg and Wiz attend? Can we stop them?” Wildstein wrote.

“How do we stop them? It just creates an issue,” Baroni replied.

“I don’t see how but need to ask you,” Wildstein wrote.

“Yeah they will beat us up either way,” Baroni responded.

The 20 documents also identified for the first time those who sent explosive text messages that had already been released.

Kelly was identified as the person who wrote “Is it wrong that I’m smiling?” after being told the Fort Lee mayor complained about delayed school buses and traffic congestion. “I feel badly about the kids,” she wrote, “I guess.”

“They are the children of Buono voters,” Wildstein responded, referring to Barbara Buono, Christie’s Democratic challenger in the gubernatorial election.

Those passages had already been reported, but the identities of who sent and received the messages were not clear from the documents turned over by Wildstein in response to legislative subpoenas. The legislative committee that issued the subpoenas asked Wildstein’s attorney to remove redactions from the documents and to identify the participants in some of the discussions. Wildstein’s attorney did that.

Some redactions remain, likely because the information was deemed not relevant to the committee’s investigation.

The new messages also show that a Port Authority police officer, Lt. Chip Michaels, was giving reports to Wildstein about the traffic backups in Fort Lee during the lane closures, which ran from Sept. 9 to 13. Michaels, the documents indicate, chauffeured Wildstein to observe the traffic jams on the first morning of the lane closures.

“Local ft lee traffic disaster,” Michaels wrote to Wildstein at 8:39 p.m. on Sept. 10, the second day of the lane closures.

Michaels and his brother were childhood friends of Christie, and like Wildstein, they all grew up in Livingston.

- See more at: northjersey.com

232 kirkspencer  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:51:07am

re: #225 lawhawk

Licenses, registrations, tax reporting obligations, health and safety inspections, employer/employee protections/rights/obligations, disclosure requirements for contract terms, etc.

What annoys me (and yes, I’ve seen the meme/pciture) is that we’ve already had this conversation except last time it was race.

In this nation your religion does not trump “all men are created equal”; the constitution does not begin “We some of the people”.

233 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:55:36am

re: #232 kirkspencer

What annoys me (and yes, I’ve seen the meme/pciture) is that we’ve already had this conversation except last time it was race.

In this nation your religion does not trump “all men are created equal”; the constitution does not begin “We some of the people”.

Emphasized for Truth!

234 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:56:44am

If your religion requires you to be a bigot, racist, misogynist, hater, then maybe you’re doing your religion wrong.

235 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:56:55am

re: #227 Feline Fearless Leader

For the most part, my female felines have been the most needing vet care over the years. I’ve had four females go over the Rainbow Bridge in the past seven years. In the same time I’ve only had one male make that journey, and he was quite old, 19 or 20.

236 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:00:07am

So, in summary, RWNJs are portraying themselves as “victims” because they don’t have the legal right to discriminate against others. Gotcha.

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:04:50am

re: #235 Bulworth

For the most part, my female felines have been the most needing vet care over the years. I’ve had four females go over the Rainbow Bridge in the past seven years. In the same time I’ve only had one male make that journey, and he was quite old, 19 or 20.

The new ones (one male, one female) are cats #5 and #6 in the last 25 years. One kitten lost early and then the two Siamese males who lived to 17 and 21 years respectively. And a female for three years that I got from some friends when she was already 10 or so. She put up a gallant but ultimately losing fight against mammary gland cancer.

238 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:09:17am

re: #236 Dr. Matt

So, in summary, RWNJs are portraying themselves as “victims” because they don’t have the legal right to discriminate against others. Gotcha.

In the public square as sellers. As purchasers they are allowed to.

A commenter on Stonekettle Station mentioned that they go across town to buy gasoline at a particular station due to all the other ones in town being owned by Muslims. A perfectly legal decision on their part.

239 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:11:29am
240 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:13:05am
241 Ian G.  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:14:00am

Mornin’ Lizards. I see Brewer vetoed the bill. I will stick with the kamikaze analogy, as these desparate Jim Crow bills are working at stopping gay rights about as well as the kamikaze squadrons were at stopping the US invasion of Okinawa.

242 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:14:49am

re: #238 Feline Fearless Leader

In the public square as sellers. As purchasers they are allowed to.

A commenter on Stonekettle Station mentioned that they go across town to buy gasoline at a particular station due to all the other ones in town being owned by Muslims. A perfectly legal decision on their part.

Under that Arizona law/bill, that Muslim business owner would be able to refuse to service to an unescorted woman or a woman who is not covered. In other words, he would be able to enforce Sharia Law.

243 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:16:20am

re: #239 Justanotherhuman

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News Conference Item #1: I’m the victim of a Nazi coup!

Item #2: Thanks to Snowden we know this is all America’s fault!

Item #3: I want those riff-raff out of my palace!

Item #4: Vlad says he’s comin’ to get you Fascists!

Item #5: OW, MY BUTT! IT HURTS!!1

244 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:17:46am

After many, many hours of high falutin’ lawyer talk, Jan decides! You go, Jan! Was it the part of being sued for untold millions the part that swayed you? Or was it paying to enforce it?

245 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:18:06am

re: #238 Feline Fearless Leader

In the public square as sellers. As purchasers they are allowed to.

A commenter on Stonekettle Station mentioned that they go across town to buy gasoline at a particular station due to all the other ones in town being owned by Muslims. A perfectly legal decision on their part.

Good grief. I usually buy gas where it’s the cheapest. My decisions are largely based on my pocketbook, not on who owns what.

Although I have privately boycotted a couple of businesses here that were blatantly racist (I mean to my face), using racist rhetoric I didn’t agree with. And I will never buy BP gas again (poisoning the Gulf of Mexico even more, and trying to deny it). I don’t like to boycott small businesses, usually it’s easier to go after corps, but when small businesses are run by out and out bigots, I don’t give a shit if they get any business at all.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:18:58am

update on the big wreck in Canada:

247 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:23:50am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

update on the big wreck in Canada:

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Well, that proves that Canadians can do massive traffic accidents as well as Americans.

248 Ian G.  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:24:49am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Well, that proves that Canadians can do massive traffic accidents as well as Americans.

They do lunatic politicians and douchebag young celebrities even better than we do!

249 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:25:37am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Well, that proves that Canadians can do massive traffic accidents as well as Americans.

In 2011, Highway 402 (between Sarnia and London) was snowed in so hard they had to take out drivers by helicopter.

250 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:26:17am

re: #232 kirkspencer

What annoys me (and yes, I’ve seen the meme/pciture) is that we’ve already had this conversation except last time it was race.

In this nation your religion does not trump “all men are created equal”; the constitution does not begin “We some of the people”.

Once again, I am disappointed/angry (I vacillate moment to moment) that nobody in these legislatures has the freaking spine to just stand up and say the one obvious thing that would put all of this to rest.

“Mr./Ms. Congressperson: If you take your bill and replace “gay” with “black”, do you suddenly look like a racist piece of shit? That would be because you are a bigoted piece of shit, and so is this bill. QED.”

251 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:29:48am

re: #239 Justanotherhuman

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Is he going to demand his job back or his stuff back?

252 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:31:38am

re: #242 Dr. Matt

Under that Arizona law/bill, that Muslim business owner would be able to refuse to service to an unescorted woman or a woman who is not covered. In other words, he would be able to enforce Sharia Law.

That was one of the reasons I almost hoped it would pass, that and the inevitable NFL Super Bowl boycott, then followed by a RWNJ counter-boycott for “caving into Big Gay” and all the ensuing court challenges and the sight of US marshalls escorting a gay weeidng party into a Denny’s…

253 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:33:20am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That was one of the reasons I almost hoped it would pass, that and the inevitable NFL Super Bowl boycott, then followed by a RWNJ counter-boycott for “caving into Big Gay” and all the ensuing court challenges and the sight of US marshalls escorting a gay weeidng party into a Denny’s…

Don’t worry about that, TEXAS will pull through for you in that regard.
///

254 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:33:40am

Is it almost time for CPAC yet? I could use the LOL’s.

255 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:34:56am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When idiots create broad laws to address a non-existent problem, they never think about the unintended consequences that law will create.

256 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:35:03am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

update on the big wreck in Canada:

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Looks bad. Used to take that road on way to North Bay Ont. for fishing trips. There was a casino on lake Simcoe we would stop at to “stretch” (as dad called it), gamble a little and hit the buffet.

257 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:35:47am

re: #254 Bulworth

Is it almost time for CPAC yet? I could use the LOL’s.

They’re still working on the disinvited list.

258 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:36:15am

BBL

259 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:37:45am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

When idiots create broad laws to address a non-existent problem, they never think about the unintended consequences that law will create.

See also: Jindal, Bobby; subsection G: School Vouchers.

260 gwangung  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:38:45am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

When idiots create broad laws to address a non-existent problem, they never think about the unintended consequences that law will create.

Yeah, conservatives used to beat liberals on the head about the law of unintended consequences. Idiots thought that would never apply to them.

261 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:42:49am
262 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:44:00am
263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:44:56am
264 Mike Lamb  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:47:57am

re: #130 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR TROOFS!!!!!!!!
Actually not “Troofs” just a bunch of marketing slogans.

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Are these jerk-offs at all familiar with the concept of a social contract?

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:50:12am

OT: My brother just sent me a PDF of a PA Geological Survey Guidebook to the Geology of the Philadelphia area. 200 pages and printed in 1964.

:)

Presumably the rocks are still the same, but I bet a bunch of the listed exposures will be changed or be gone/unapproachable.

266 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:50:14am

Attention, Lizards who may be interested in purchasing some real estate: Ostrava’s Pentagon is now for sale! * (**)

The building was actually a nuclear research facility built in the 1970s; it has long fallen into disrepair. The owner, Vitkovice, has put the building up for sale, hoping that someone will turn it into what photo #1 in the below slideshow will look like. The remaining photos are interior/exterior shots.

I noticed a Spongebob plushy in one of the photos, telling me either it’s probably being used by the local homeless as a crude shelter, or an animal dragged it in.

moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

*=some furnishings and appliances included
(**)=nuclear reactor not included

267 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:52:00am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scary. He’s a fairly young guy.

268 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:52:16am

re: #264 Mike Lamb

Are these jerk-offs at all familiar with the concept of a social contract?

HURR HURR ALL TEH MONEYS IS MINE!!!!
ALL MINES!!!
I EARNED ITS BY MYSELF. MY OWN BOOTSTRAPS1!!!!
NO CUSTOMERS!!
NO SUPPLIERS!!
NO SUPPLY CHAIN!!!!
NO INFRASTRUCTURE!!!
NO EMPLOYEES!!!!
THERE ALL TAKERS & PARASITES!!!!
BUT NOT ME!!!!

269 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:53:09am

re: #264 Mike Lamb

Are these jerk-offs at all familiar with the concept of a social contract?

No, they were doing pitfarts when the civics teacher was talking about Locke.

270 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:56:24am

WOOT!

271 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:57:08am
272 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:57:09am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

WOOT!

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Is it too early for a shot of Jim to give cheers to the decision?

273 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:57:45am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now, this only applies to those who married in another state, but the cracks are widening now.

274 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:58:01am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

WOOT!

Friends of Hamas Shapiro and Awick Erickson’s butthurt just reached 11.

275 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:58:37am

re: #274 Dr. Matt

Friends of Hamas Shapiro and Awick Erickson’s butthurt just reached 11.

Imagine how much butthurt they’re going to feel when they’re forced to marry each other!//

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:58:41am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Is it too early for a shot of Jim to give cheers to the decision?

I read that our Governor & AG were going to file for a stay. I’m checking on that right now.

277 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:59:55am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

WOOT!

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BOOM!

278 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:01:29am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Imagine how much butthurt they’re going to feel when they’re forced to marry each other in the FEMA camp!//

FIFY

279 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:01:54am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

FIFY

Ah yes of course.

280 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:02:33am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Scary. He’s a fairly young guy.

Heart disease gives zero fucks who you are or what age you’re at. If you’re not heart-healthy, get heart-healthy. Watch that cholesterol and eat your fresh veggies.

281 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:02:51am
282 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:03:57am

re: #280 GunstarGreen

Heart disease gives zero fucks who you are or what age you’re at. If you’re not heart-healthy, get heart-healthy. Watch that cholesterol and eat your fresh veggies.

Yep, too true. Part of the reason why I decided to get in shape in a hurry was I have a heart condition. I’ve totally changed how I eat too. Much more fruits and veggies than in the past and equally important much less fried foods.

283 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:04:45am
NFL Was Preparing To Move Super Bowl If Arizona’s Anti-Gay Bill Passed

It is a moot point now that Arizona governor Jan Brewer vetoed the controversial SB 1062, but the NFL had already begun taking steps to secure a different location for next year’s Super Bowl. It would have gone, in all likelihood, to Tampa.
deadspin.com

Fuck ‘em, move it anyway I say.. Clearly their state legislators are a bunch of bigoted assholes who don’t deserve the revenue and attention that a SB would bring.

284 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:06:57am

Freepernoia
Freepers persist in claiming that Obama will go for a third term. This time the gimmick is to have Michelle run in his place. A number suggest that Barack could be the running mate. This is constitutionally impossible, of course (see 12th amendment). Many GOPers made the same suggestion about Saint Reagan in 1988, so they may be recalling that and letting the Reagan aura take precedence over the plain language of the constitution: “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States”

I remember a fundy co-worker trying to flat out lie to me about this when it came up in 1988: “…but it says ‘no person shall be ELECTED to more than two terms. hurr hurr!” I called him on it but it was an interesting insight into the inherent, almost unconscious, deceitfulness of the fundy mindset. This person was a walking stereotype, 25 years old, already had 4 children, and was involved in any number of MLM and get-rich-quick schemes. Oh well, there’s a sucker born again every minute. Btw, his nickname was “Prop-Strike” because he had absent-mindedly come within inches of walking into a spinning propeller and was saved only by an alert co-worker reaching out to literally pull him back by the belt.

285 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:07:07am
286 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:07:37am
287 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:07:51am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read that our Governor & AG were going to file for a stay. I’m checking on that right now.

OK, the judge’s ruling this morning was final, so there is no stay.
Governor & AG now have to decide whether or not to appeal.

The stay was filed this morning, judge hasn’t ruled on it yet.

288 GunstarGreen  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:08:43am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Yep, too true. Part of the reason why I decided to get in shape in a hurry was I have a heart condition. I’ve totally changed how I eat too. Much more fruits and veggies than in the past and equally important much less fried foods.

Good on ya, keep on truckin’.

Over the course of the last year I’ve gone from a ‘pizza every night’ kind of guy to being damn close to a paleo diet (I still eat about a serving and a half of grains per day); it’s unquestionably saved me from an early grave. I was pre-hypertensive when I started, something like 140/90 territory, nowadays I’m well within normal parameters (116~120/68~70). It’s been worth every single second.

289 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:12:00am

re: #288 GunstarGreen

Good on ya, keep on truckin’.

Over the course of the last year I’ve gone from a ‘pizza every night’ kind of guy to being damn close to a paleo diet (I still eat about a serving and a half of grains per day); it’s unquestionably saved me from an early grave. I was pre-hypertensive when I started, something like 140/90 territory, nowadays I’m well within normal parameters (116~120/68~70). It’s been worth every single second.

I’ve really started to enjoy eating quinoa. Have it with Greek yogurt, cereal, etc.

290 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:12:37am

I think Bush the Smarter was the last POTUS who was NOT routinely accused of seeking an illegal third term.

291 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:16:34am

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel

I think Bush the Smarter was the last POTUS who was NOT routinely accused of seeking an illegal third term.

I remember rumblings but that was from the truly paranoid. I think Bush at the end was like James Buchanan’s parting words to the incoming Lincoln. “If you sir are as happy to enter the White House as I am to leave it, you sir must be a very happy man.” Probably the only wise thing Buchanan did or said as president.

292 Gus  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:17:48am

Gohmert? I haven’t had any coffee yet.

293 Lidane  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:29:16am
294 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:47:05am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

update on the big wreck in Canada:

For a moment, I thought you were talking about this Big Wreck…

Youtube Video

295 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:47:45am

re: #283 Dr. Matt

Fuck ‘em, move it anyway I say.. Clearly their state legislators are a bunch of bigoted assholes who don’t deserve the revenue and attention that a SB would bring.

Though you may also ask whether Florida really deserves the extra business either.

296 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:49:06am

re: #294 makeitstop

For a moment, I thought you were talking about this Big Wreck…

[Embedded content]

heh.

297 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:50:55am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I’ve really started to enjoy eating quinoa. Have it with Greek yogurt, cereal, etc.

Love quinoa! Depending on it’s prepared, it can be a hot breakfast, a spicy side dish, part of a stew, etc. etc…..

298 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:53:35am

re: #254 Bulworth

Is it almost time for CPAC yet? I could use the LOL’s.

Like watching for the first loon of summer.


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