Sarah Palin Swoons for Manly Bear-Wrestling Putin, Says Obama Wears “Mom Jeans”

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Here’s the half-governor of Alaska, with another of her wonderfully classless statements, lovingly crafted to appeal to the lowest common denominator of the right wing base: Sarah Palin: Barack Obama Known for ‘Mom Jeans’.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says that Russian President Vladimir Putin is a man known for wrestling bears while President Barack Obama is known for wearing mom jeans.

“People are looking at Putin as one who wrestles bears and drills for oil,” Palin said to Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Monday night. “They look at our president as one who wears mom jeans and equivocates and bloviates.”

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1 Testy Toad T  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 2:58:53pm

I would pay real American dollars to watch Sarah Palin attempt to define “equivocate” and “bloviate” on camera.

2 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 2:59:22pm

Sarah Palin Wishes Manly Vladimir Putin Could Be Our President Instead

It is believed that, immediately following the interview, Lloyd’s of London declared the half-term governor’s panties to be a total loss.

3 Testy Toad T  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:01:14pm

I wish we could have as President someone who didn’t “talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.”

Someone, perhaps, like noted articulate wordsmith Sarah Palin.

//////////////not enough in all of christendom

4 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:01:17pm

I guess we’ve figured out what Sarah Palin was doing with all those lonely hours staring out at Russia while she lived in Alaska.

5 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:02:17pm

6 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:03:02pm
7 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:03:03pm
8 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:04:24pm

If she squints real hard from her porch she can monitor Russian troop movements in Ukraine.

9 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:04:36pm

LGF beat you to it, Will. littlegreenfootballs.com

10 Bubblehead II  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:05:52pm

From a CL post downstairs

Putin wrestles bears. Palin Mama Grizzly.
Putin Drills for oil Palin Drill baby drill.

Brain bleach available at a store near you.

11 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:06:30pm

re: #9 The Mountain That Blogs

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LGF beat you to it, Will. littlegreenfootballs.com

Because we’re on the cutting edge.

12 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:06:40pm

re: #10 Bubblehead II

From a CL post downstairs

Putin wrestles bears. Palin Mama Grizzly.
Putin Drills for oil Palin Drill baby drill.

Brain bleach available at a store near you.

*WHACK!*

13 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:07:22pm

Actually Freep, you know what’s scarier than a theater full of unarmed people? A THEATER FULL OF ARMED PEOPLE.

14 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:07:55pm
15 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:08:49pm

Putin the roughneck.

16 Testy Toad T  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:08:53pm

It’s long been known as a major Rovian tactic to paradoxically attack the opponent where they are strongest, to turn a strength into a weakness. It’s a natural corollary to attempt to turn your own weaknesses into strengths. Romney’s mom-jeans were roundly (although IMHO unfairly) mocked; Sarah Palin herself is known for spewing incomprehensible word-salad.

So I put it to the class:

Is Palin being coached on these remarks? Is this yet another example of carefully crafted GOP negative campaigning?

Or is Sarah Palin just really, really dumb?

17 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:09:27pm


Well done sir.

18 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:12:59pm

“I came to the inescapable conclusion that if I did so, I would be defending discrimination. That I will not do.”

19 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:13:17pm

Fuckers.

20 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:13:18pm

21 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:14:09pm

22 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:14:49pm

It was Zangief’s back story that involved wrestling bears.

The kind of “bears” that Putin wrestles are different, euphemistic.

23 Majacita  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:15:20pm

re: #17 Kragar

This guy should have been our senator.

24 jonhendry  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:15:55pm

re: #16 Testy Toad T

I thought Rove’s tactic was more about paradoxically accusing the opponent of your own weaknesses.

Although I can’t recall any examples.

25 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:16:27pm

re: #23 Majacita

This guy should have been our senator.

He got very emotional towards the end. It was really quite moving.

26 KiTA  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:18:45pm

re: #24 jonhendry

I thought Rove’s tactic was more about paradoxically accusing the opponent of your own weaknesses.

Although I can’t recall any examples.

They do both. “Offensive Projection” where you find a weakness in your own guy and blame the other guy (so if he goes back then the talking heads can just say “he said she said THAT’S TOTALLY EQUAL moving on”… and whatever it is when you pick your opponent’s strength and pay people to act like being smart or diplomatic or charismatic or whatnot is suddenly bad.

27 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:18:46pm

TRUTH MOVEMENT ART - Abby Martin, 911Artists.org, and mediaroots.org

Hey, all. I’m putting up the first piece by Abby Martin on 911Artists.org at the same time that I’m making this post here.

Addendum by Abby Martin

There will be a second piece by her up there soon. You can see more of Ms. Martin’s work on abbymartin.org. Also, she’s starting a new site called MEDIAROOTS. Thanks, Abby.

28 Majacita  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:18:58pm

re: #25 Kragar

I voted for him. I knew we’d lost though because as I was voting an elderly lady came in and wanted to know how to vote for a Republican. She had always voted strict party line Democratic and didn’t know how to vote for individuals. When I heard her ask the poll workers I was so disheartened. I knew we had lost.

29 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:21:25pm

#TCOT—Come for the seditious politics, stay for the fashion critiques

30 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:21:50pm

31 jc717  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:22:05pm

re: #19 darthstar

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Fuckers.

In fairness, they didn’t specify which country…

32 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:22:33pm

re: #31 jc717

In fairness, they didn’t specify which country…

Good point.

Fuckers.

33 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:23:44pm
34 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:24:22pm

re: #2 Kragar

Sarah Palin Wishes Manly Vladimir Putin Could Be Our President Instead

Best take on the Palin thing, right there.

I had a very entertaining afternoon calling out my Facebook wingnuts for getting all wet over Teh Dreemy Vlad. They sure don’t like getting called out on it, though.

35 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:25:30pm
36 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:26:21pm

re: #34 makeitstop

Well, duh. They’re supposed to be More Patriotic Than You, you can’t dare expose them for Putin-lovers.

37 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:27:52pm

Here’s Abby Martin’s artwork at Facebook:

facebook.com

And I see why Glenn Greenwald likes her so much:

38 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:28:29pm

re: #27 NJDhockeyfan

TRUTH MOVEMENT ART - Abby Martin, 911Artists.org, and mediaroots.org

Here’s her website. mediaroots.org

All sorts of conspiracy stuff, alternative history. A book by Code Pink about OWS on the sidebar. A video titled ” Asteroid Fighting Laser Bees” looks kinda interesting.

39 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:28:36pm

The name of that masterpiece is “Killing Hope,” if it wasn’t already obvious.

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:30:08pm

re: #17 Kragar

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Well done sir.

Jack Conway is who I supported and volunteered for against Rand Paul.

41 Kid A  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:30:29pm

I’ll take Obama’s mom jeans over Bush’s soul-seeing any day.

42 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:30:57pm

The Fluoride Fraud
Posted by abby on August 1, 2010

43 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:32:31pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

The name of that masterpiece is “Killing Hope,” if it wasn’t already obvious.

I’d call it ‘Killing Any Chance I’m Gonna Click On That Link’.

44 Kid A  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:32:37pm

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

The Fluoride Fraud
Posted by abby on August 1, 2010

She’s British?
//

45 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:32:46pm

JFK hated black people. Who knew?

46 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:33:05pm

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

The Fluoride Fraud
Posted by abby on August 1, 2010

Is this going to be about Purity of Essence?

47 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:33:36pm

re: #27 NJDhockeyfan

TRUTH MOVEMENT ART - Abby Martin, 911Artists.org, and mediaroots.org

How much would you pay not to look at that?

48 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:35:44pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Is this going to be about Purity of Essence?

It’s some kind of totally nutzoid, incredibly convoluted plot involving corporations and governments and aliens and mmm…. glavin!

Serious, I tried to read some of it but my eyes glazed over after the first 5 words.

49 Kid A  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:36:11pm

re: #47 jaunte

How much would you pay not to look at that?

Seriously, someone needs to set that painting on fire, it’s utter shit.

50 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:37:02pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Glavin? Wasn’t he the know-it-all postman in Cheers?

51 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:37:07pm

re: #47 jaunte

How much would you pay not to look at that?

Take credit cards?

Art as propaganda as above is just bad art. Good or even controversial worthwhile art has honesty and skill. Deceit with a brush is just deceit in a slow to dry medium.

52 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:37:19pm

re: #49 Kid A

Something about it is making me think of Crest toothpaste.

53 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:37:35pm

re: #49 Kid A

Seriously, someone needs to set that painting on fire, it’s utter shit.

Would look good next to my Zimmerman original.

54 Kid A  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:39:46pm

Would look great next to my Catherine Scorcese original.

55 nsmith25  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:41:07pm

re: #33 Kragar

Does Paul also believe: “Illegitimate for courts to intrude on Interracial marriage bans?” He does believe that the Free market defeats Racism in 1 2 3 4 I declare thumb war

56 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:42:45pm

If you hit play I’m not responsible for the number of brain cells you lose.

Youtube Video

57 ObserverArt  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:43:44pm

re: #1 Testy Toad T

I would pay real American dollars to watch Sarah Palin attempt to define “equivocate” and “bloviate” on camera.

That’s the first thing I thought of when I read her comments. They probably had to help her with the pronunciations too.

58 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:45:10pm

Florida Man is always on-topic.

Shoots passing 12 yr old girl (accidentally) then shoots self in leg (accidentally).

talkingpointsmemo.com

59 nsmith25  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:47:55pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

“Oh Shoot”

“Oh Shoot again”

60 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:49:20pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

Florida Man is always on-topic.

Shoots passing 12 yr old girl (accidentally) then shoots self in leg (>accidentally).

talkingpointsmemo.com

Must be more of that well regulated militia I’ve been hearing so much about lately.

61 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:49:21pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Here’s her website. mediaroots.org

All sorts of conspiracy stuff, alternative history. A book by Code Pink about OWS on the sidebar. A video titled “ Asteroid Fighting Laser Bees” looks kinda interesting.

Want.

62 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:51:14pm

63 b.d.  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:51:18pm

Has Greenwald accepted the invitation to go on Alex Jones’ show yet?

64 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:53:21pm

Ha! Froomkin RTs Greenbacks thinking it’s Greenwald…then un-RTs. GG must have called him to correct his mistake.

65 dog philosopher  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:55:17pm

“People are looking at Putin as one who wrestles bears and drills for oil,” Palin said to Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Monday night. “They look at our president as one who wears mom jeans and equivocates and bloviates.”

stupid people, that is

66 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 3:59:29pm

Joking aside, WTH is ‘glavin’? It doesn’t google usefully.

67 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:00:17pm

68 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:00:32pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

Florida Man is always on-topic.

Shoots passing 12 yr old girl (accidentally) then shoots self in leg (>accidentally).

talkingpointsmemo.com

A police report said he won’t be charged, but authorities are still investigating the incident.

Of course not. Now, if he’d shot a ceiling, he’d be in deep shit.

69 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:01:25pm
70 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:01:25pm
71 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:01:38pm

re: #66 Decatur Deb

perhaps “Professor Frink” googles better.

72 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:02:36pm

Vladimir Putin: human shield leader

73 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:03:09pm

Oddly enough, I can’t find a clip of the Simpsons at YouTube that has the famous “glavin” quote from Professor Frink.

74 dog philosopher  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:03:26pm

Sarah Palin Wishes Manly Vladimir Putin Could Be Our President Instead

“oh vlad! invade me, suppress me, pump me full of your natural gas!”

75 Chrysicat  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:04:15pm

Ugh. Chris Matthews on trying to tell us that it’s our responsibility to make Ukraine back into a Russian puppet immediately, simply to avoid a new Cold War. And his guests are agreeing with him.

In fact, I turned off the TV simply to avoid being tempted to throw something at him.

76 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:04:49pm

Here are some Prof. Frink clips, but sans glavin. He almost gets to the glavin level of intensity, but not quite.

Youtube Video

77 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:05:31pm

re: #75 Chrysicat

Ugh. Chris Matthews on trying to tell us that it’s our responsibility to make Ukraine back into a Russian puppet immediately, simply to avoid a new Cold War. And his guests are agreeing with him.

Snowden worshiper says what?

78 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:05:45pm

re: #71 The Mountain That Blogs

perhaps “Professor Frink” googles better.

Ah! Gibberish—Thanks.

79 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:07:21pm

re: #23 Majacita

This guy should have been our senator.

Well he may be our next governor, so there is a silver lining.

80 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:09:51pm

Professor Frink

Frink is a college professor at Springfield Heights Institute of Technology[9] and runs his own astronomical observatory.[10] He has an IQ of 197 — 199 before he sustained a concussion during the collapse of Springfield’s brief intellectual junta — and is a member of the Springfield chapter of Mensa.[11][12] Frink is generally very polite and friendly. He has a trademark mannerism of using Jerry Lewis-style gibberish when excited,[5][13][14] such as “HOYVIN-GLAVIN!” and “FLAVIN” and impulsively shouting other words that have no relevance to the situation at hand.

81 nsmith25  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:10:21pm

re: #79 aagcobb

Well he may be our next governor, so there is a silver lining.

That is my hope. Life would be sweet if he is governor with Allison LG as Senator

82 Bubblehead II  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:11:03pm

re: #74 dog philosopher

Sarah Palin Wishes Manly Vladimir Putin Could Be Our President Instead

“oh vlad! invade me, suppress me, pump me full of your natural gas!”

See my #10

83 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:11:25pm

Looks like the Simpsons lawyers have thoroughly cleansed YouTube of Simpsons-related content, except for a few tiny clips.

84 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:12:17pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jack Conway is who I supported and volunteered for against Rand Paul.

He will probably be running for governor next year, so you can support him again!

85 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:12:29pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Looks like the Simpsons lawyers have thoroughly cleansed YouTube of Simpsons-related content, except for a few tiny clips.

Mr. Burns retains the rights.

86 dog philosopher  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:12:36pm

9/11 Truthers who think fluoridation is a plot to brainwash humanity

i thought mouthwash was a plot to fluoridate humanity

87 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:13:25pm

Youtube Video
Bam!

88 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:13:28pm

(I should say, all non-licensed Simpsons-related content.)

89 Amory Blaine  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:13:51pm

re: #67 Pie-onist Overlord

Youtube Video

90 dog philosopher  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:13:59pm

re: #82 Bubblehead II

See my #10

you’ve got the marquee slogans, i’ve got the dialog

91 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:14:06pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Springfield Heights Institute of Technology

I think Ted Nugent dropped out from there.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:16:36pm
93 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:16:39pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Looks like the Simpsons lawyers have thoroughly cleansed YouTube of Simpsons-related content, except for a few tiny clips.

Seriously, what a wasteland.

94 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:17:11pm

re: #86 dog philosopher

9/11 Truthers who think fluoridation is a plot to brainwash humanity

i thought mouthwash was a plot to fluoridate humanity

The interesting bit is that the flouridation paranoia has outlived it’s original plot mechanism. The 1950s JBS conspiracy involved the chemistry of flouride making us all accumulate the toxic effect of strontium-90 spread through the atmosphere by nuclear testing.

95 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:18:30pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

The interesting bit is that the flouridation paranoia has outlived it’s original plot mechanism. The 1950s JBS conspiracy involved the chemistry of flouride making us all accumulate the toxic effect of strontium-90 spread through the atmosphere by nuclear testing.

To what end?

96 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:19:23pm

re: #95 Varek Raith

To what end?

Soviet plot to kill us all and take Disneyland for their elite.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:20:43pm
98 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:22:15pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Soviet plot to kill us all and take Disneyland for their elite.

How unimaginative.
XD

99 Bubblehead II  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:26:16pm

re: #90 dog philosopher

you’ve got the marquee slogans, i’ve got the dialog

I’ll give you that.

100 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:26:21pm

re: #30 darthstar

Good to know. Other rules? Make sure to tie the shoelaces of anyone suspected of being a zombie. Limit their mobility.

101 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:28:25pm

re: #75 Chrysicat

Ugh. Chris Matthews on trying to tell us that it’s our responsibility to make Ukraine back into a Russian puppet immediately, simply to avoid a new Cold War. And his guests are agreeing with him.

In fact, I turned off the TV simply to avoid being tempted to throw something at him.

Heh, I’d like to see that. I think most of the TV pundits are playing characters but Mathews is an odd one. I think he’s really like that and I don’t think he could fake being something else. I don’t know if he’s stupid but he’s mostly a creature that functions only by reflex. I think he’s interesting.

102 TedStriker  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:28:48pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Frink is a college professor at Springfield Heights Institute of Technology

re: #91 wrenchwench

I think Ted Nugent dropped out from there.

Sneaky of Groening & Co.; predates the South Harmon Institute of Technology bit from Accepted by a long time.

103 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:30:30pm

re: #17 Kragar

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Well done sir.

Disappointingly, Governor Beshear announced that the state would hire independent counsel to pursue an appeal. He justified it by saying that the issue would ultimately be decided in the Supreme Court, and he wanted Kentucky to be involved.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:30:41pm
105 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:31:55pm

Too good to check.

106 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:34:57pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Too good to check.

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It was actually his puppet.

107 Swift2991  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:38:09pm

It’s very interesting looking at the Western crew on RT. They must realize they’ve been selected by Central Casting — Putin — to tell a story. Putin’s story. Anybody who has communicated any mistrust of the Bush/Cheney vision of the American Empire is popped into that lineup. Why they object isn’t important to the FSB. This is Putin’s Radio Free Europe. It’s bizarre, but many have affection for the strong man. Fraudulent election? Sure, why not? Got to stop the riff-raff from having a voice. Unconstitutional 3rd term? Oh, don’t be a hater. An American lapdog of capitalism and imperialism. Do not watch what the other hand is doing here.

If I was on RT, I’d be really thinking about that gig, and whether I should continue.

Watch “Putin’s Kiss” on Netflix.

108 Swift2991  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:42:00pm

re: #95 Varek Raith

All to sap our precious bodily fluids, I understand.

109 Patricia Kayden  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:42:54pm

re: #55 nsmith25

Does Paul also believe: “Illegitimate for courts to intrude on Interracial marriage bans?” He does believe that the Free market defeats Racism in 1 2 3 4 I declare thumb war

Probably yes.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:44:07pm

re: #103 aagcobb

Disappointingly, Governor Beshear announced that the state would hire independent counsel to pursue an appeal. He justified it by saying that the issue would ultimately be decided in the Supreme Court, and he wanted Kentucky to be involved.

111 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:46:20pm

#1 way to guarantee you’ll win your primary when you have a serious challenger? Get more challengers onto the ticket. Water down the field. Get a “big name” like Stockman to run against you and do a shitty job of it. You only need 30% of the vote to win the primary that way.

It’s far cheaper than a bloody head-to-head battle with one opponent who gets equal air time.

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:46:51pm
113 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:47:06pm


I’ll add that the GOP had no problem increasing costs to these same folks by implementing the GOP shutdown over Obamacare. Obamacare, which gives these same folks the opportunity to buy affordable health insurance - particularly important if you’ve got preexisting conditions, are under age 26, etc.

The focus on energy costs is nice, but it’s meant to compel Obama and Democrats to accept Keystone, fracking, and environmental degradation. Pivot point.

114 b.d.  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:47:57pm

SARAH 2016!!! SHE HAS TO RUN!!!!

115 urbanmeemaw  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:47:58pm

re: #16 Testy Toad T

She’s very very evil.

116 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:47:58pm
117 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:49:45pm
118 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:54:16pm

Er…

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:56:19pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Er…

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Another drooling Glenn-bot, like Mona

120 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:57:07pm

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

Another drooling Glenn-bot, like Mona

She also RT’d this:

121 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 4:57:31pm

Paul: ‘Illegitimate’ For Federal Courts To ‘Intrude’ On State Gay Marriage Bans

Dear Senator;

Loving v Virginia (1967)

In addendum: Please stop being a Confederate chicken fucker.*

*That’s not a metaphor for anything. You fuck chickens. You’re scared of gay marriage because it will lead to bestiality, which will mean a legal structure in which the chickens you fuck can obtain palimony.

122 GeneJockey  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:04:21pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

She also RT’d this:

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“Izzat yo cultcha ‘n’ her’tage? Thass not MAH cultcha ‘n’ het’tage!”

123 Belafon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:07:54pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

What, invading other countries and genocide?

124 GeneJockey  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:08:40pm

re: #123 Belafon

What, invading other countries and genocide?

Don’t forget mechanized slaughter on an industrial scale!

125 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:09:21pm

re: #123 Belafon

What, invading other countries and genocide?

That and stinky cheeses. And what Gene said.

126 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:18:45pm
127 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:20:51pm

Video of Sarah Palin’s astoundingly idiotic statement.

Youtube Video

128 Belafon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:24:52pm

re: #126 Kragar

I bet his daughters were very sad because of this.

129 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:29:34pm
130 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:29:44pm
“People are looking at Putin as one who wrestles bears and drills for oil,”

I SO totally misread that. In my brain it turned into “Putin as one who wrestles bears IN OIL”. Not that that doesn’t make one hell of a mental image, just not one I want to savor right after dinner.

On the plus side, they actually overbook the classroom space where I work, so I’m teaching from home. Good thing, since on Monday I had 3 inches of frozen ice pellets (1/16 - 1/8th inch diameter) covering my car. I love teaching from home, only problem is that the two siamese cats occasionally make their “MREWWWWEETRRRTTWRRTTTRRRR” noise, one of my students was cracking up, each time the cat did that, her dog came running into her study (She’s taking from home)

Life is good, and the stuff that isn’t, well it’s not bad.

RBS

131 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:30:17pm

MSNBC not helping
MSNBC’s Alex Wagner: Obama Hasn’t Focused on Foreign Policy Because His Heart’s Not in It
Bonus: She also claims this whole thing started because of a benign trade agreement between Kiev and the Ukraine. Wrong on so many levels.

132 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:33:35pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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What’s the feminine diminutive for fucking asshole?

133 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:36:43pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

What’s the feminine diminutive for fucking asshole?

I’m not sure what the limits are here… but I think it’s something like “worthless tw@t”

RBS

134 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:38:14pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

It’s still “fucking asshole”. It’s like moose.

135 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:38:41pm

Abby Martin looks kinda like Dana Loesch. Has anyone seen them together?

136 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:40:24pm

re: #134 The Mountain That Blogs

It’s still “fucking asshole”. It’s like moose.

Italian is so much more expressive—it could be a terza rima stanza.

137 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:43:09pm

I added that video of Abby Martin as an update to the post. Un-freaking-real. She went from a completely loony 9/11 Truther to a spokesmodel for Russia Today. And now The Mighty Greenwald says she’s a heroine of independent journalism.

What a world.

138 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:44:08pm
139 Belafon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:44:32pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I guess “independent journalism” means say what you want without evidence?

140 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:44:40pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I added that video of Abby Martin as an update to the post. Un-freaking-real. She went from a completely loony 9/11 Truther to a spokesmodel for Russia Today. And now The Mighty Greenwald says she’s a heroine of independent journalism.

What a world.

Doesn’t sound like she wants to earn the “Hero of Stevastopol” star.

141 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:45:19pm

I think in Abby Martin’s case, independent journalism means “totally unmoored from the real world.”

142 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:45:23pm

Crimean Premier Says Ukrainian Military Units Have Started to Surrender

The prime minister of Crimea, the autonomous Ukrainian republic seized by Russian military forces, said Tuesday that most Ukrainian military units on the Crimean Peninsula had surrendered and pledged allegiance to his pro-Russian government, and that local officials were working to speed up a referendum on independence from Ukraine.

143 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:45:53pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I added that video of Abby Martin as an update to the post. Un-freaking-real. She went from a completely loony 9/11 Truther to a spokesmodel for Russia Today. And now The Mighty Greenwald says she’s a heroine of independent journalism.

What a world.

She does provide an excellent example of how to produce news and informative media without a fascist editor having some kind of hierarchical control over her.

Except for when Russia Today deleted her, of course.

144 ObserverArt  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:46:04pm

Sarah speaks like an automated voice at a help line. Every word has a space between it and some of the words sound like they were recorded at differing times and levels, etc.

145 CuriousLurker  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:46:13pm

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Vladimir Putin: human shield leader

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re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

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Sounds like Putin has been borrowing from the ME terrorist’s playbook. The human shields thing is popular all over the place. There was lots of fake uniform stuff in Afghanistan, though in those cases to allow them to get close enough to kill, not as a false flag provocation.

146 b.d.  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:49:24pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

I think in Abby Martin’s case, independent journalism means “totally unmoored from the real world.”

BEING LIMITED BY ONE REALITY IS VERY CONSTRAINING!!

//

147 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:50:22pm

re: #21 Gus

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I love you gus!

ROTFLAMO

148 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:52:50pm
149 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:53:49pm

re: #70 Kragar

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one media outlet is reporting something another media outlet reported —of which we all already knew?

150 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:55:50pm

Wingnut meme, I fixed it for them.

151 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:56:12pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

I think in Abby Martin’s case, independent journalism means “totally unmoored from the real world.”

Free of hierarchical restrictions and tyrannical editors?

152 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:58:29pm

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

Another drooling Glenn-bot, like Mona

All of those GG acolytes have names that sound completely made up. Just saying.

153 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:58:42pm

re: #151 Kragar

Editors are just The Man, trying to keep you down.

154 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:58:51pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

She also RT’d this:

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That is just about the most horrible statement from a head-of-state I think I’ve ever read.

155 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:59:18pm

Later, lizards.

156 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:59:50pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

What’s the feminine diminutive for fucking asshole?

really it works for all genders.

157 dog philosopher  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:01:50pm

“Did you give him our address?”
“No, but stalking is one of his specialties,” I muse matter-of-factly.
Kate’s brow knits further.

That’s right: This is the kind of a book where, instead of saying things, characters muse them, and they are somehow able to muse them matter-of-factly. And these matter-of-fact musings cause other characters’ brows—which of course were already knitted—to knit still further. The book is over five hundred pages long and the whole thing is written like that. If Jane Austen (another bestselling female British author) came back to life and read this book, she would kill herself

Read more: Dave Barry Learns Everything You Need To Know About Being A Husband From Reading ‘50 Shades of Grey’ | TIME.com ideas.time.com

as a former lit major, i will certify that this qualifies as new critique

158 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:03:45pm

Ladies and gents, the woman that the GOP wanted a heartbeat from the nukes.

Let that sink in a while.

159 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:05:18pm

re: #158 Lidane

Ladies and gents, the woman that the GOP wanted a heartbeat from the nukes.

Let that sink in a while.

What’s with the past tense? A lot of them still do, except this time as the heartbeat herself.

160 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:06:24pm
161 ObserverArt  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:06:27pm

re: #158 Lidane

Ladies and gents, the woman that the GOP wanted a heartbeat from the nukes.

Let that sink in a while.

That’s bad, but anymore I’m glad McCain didn’t get his hands on a any buttons too.

162 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:06:54pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

What’s with the past tense? A lot of them still do, except this time as the heartbeat herself.

Which should make everyone with a functional IQ over 100 nervous.

People in the GOP still take her seriously. That’s fucking frightening.

163 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:07:07pm

http://www.viralnova.com/30-nice-things/

164 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:08:36pm

http://www.viralnova.com/30-nice-things/

165 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:09:50pm

re: #162 Lidane

Which should make everyone with a functional IQ over 100 nervous.

People in the GOP still take her seriously. That’s fucking frightening.

As I remember it, once McCain chose her there was a wink-wink, nod-nod going on that McCain would drop dead real soon, and Sarah would be the Pres. The other meme going on was that after he was elected, McCain would resign so Sarah could become Pres.

These people were, and continue to be completely nuts.

166 Timothy Watson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:10:35pm

re: #33 Kragar

Just like it’s “illegitimate” for federal courts to be interfering with a state’s gun laws?

167 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:10:56pm

Had this tune in my head all afternoon —don’t ask why
Youtube Video

168 dog philosopher  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:11:39pm

re: #162 Lidane

Which should make everyone with a functional IQ over 100 nervous.

People in the GOP still take her seriously. That’s fucking frightening.

my brain has to be functional???

nobody ever tells me anything…

169 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:12:20pm

re: #156 FemNaziBitch

really it works for all genders.

Tremendously limiting. How could you distinguish her from a frat of dudebros?

170 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:13:23pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Tremendously limiting. How could you distinguish her from a frat of dudebros?

Is she distinguishable from a frat of dudebros?

171 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:14:19pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

Just like it’s “illegitimate” for federal courts to be interfering with a state’s gun laws?

Was it illegitimate when the courts sided with the South over renegade slave laws?

172 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:14:19pm

re: #168 dog philosopher

my brain has to be functional???

nobody ever tells me anything…

If you are a Liberal, it’s kind of a big plus. If you are a right-wing ideologue.. meh..not so much.

173 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:15:12pm

re: #168 dog philosopher

my brain has to be functional???

nobody ever tells me anything…

Well, it might only have to function as a paperweight.

Image: main.jpg

174 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:15:19pm

So, my logged on to the bank account yesterday and found one and only one unauthorized charge via my debit card—strange.

Anyway, reported it, and am waiting a whole 48 hours for my new debit card. I had ZERO cash on hand.

For the first time in many, many years I had to go to the bank to get cash today. I remember when that was a regular chore.

It felt very strange.

175 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:15:43pm

re: #171 Kragar

Was it illegitimate when the courts sided with the South over renegade slave laws?

Was it over when Hitler bombed Pearl Harbor?

//

176 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:16:18pm

re: #170 FemNaziBitch

Is she distinguishable from a frat of dudebros?

Shaved pits.

177 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:16:19pm

My brain hasn’t been functional in —20 years this May. Kid is now 19.

178 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:16:33pm

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Shaved pits.

are you sure?

179 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:17:26pm

re: #178 FemNaziBitch

are you sure?

Documented, man. On film, like Building 7.

180 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:18:38pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Documented, man. On film, like Building 7.

Well, then I don’t have an answer for you.

You can’t call her a b*tch because I consider that to be a compliment.

Whacko is pretty generic.

181 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:21:26pm

So, Words With Friends has this weekly challenge thing. I play it and it ranks you with your “friends”.

Anyway, this time around I am so far in first place and it tells me:

“Retry to secure your lead”

a couple of days ago it said

RETRY TO SECURE YOUR LEAD —xyzfriend is only 223 points behind you.

(obviously xyz hadn’t played yet)

I know they are trying to get $$ by getting you to buy retry chances, but you think the programmers could fix that little faux pas.

182 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:22:04pm
183 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:23:12pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

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Bryan Fischer supports the idea 100%

184 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:23:29pm

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

Well, then I don’t have an answer for you.

You can’t call her a b*tch because I consider that to be a compliment.

Whacko is pretty generic.

She’s a True Believer. “…the worst are full of a passionate intensity.”

185 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:23:38pm
186 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:23:45pm
UniteWomen.org shared National Women’s History Museum’s photo:

Today in 1917, Jeannette Rankin took her seat as the first woman member of Congress. “I may be the first woman member of Congress but I won’t be the last,” said Rankin, upon her election. ‪#‎WomensHistoryMonth‬ (Photo: Library of Congress.)

from my fb

187 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:24:41pm
188 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:25:09pm
189 darthstar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:26:03pm
190 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:28:57pm

Abby Martin: Alex Jones Has Done a Lot Of Great, Crucial Work and Woken Up a Ton of People For Year


Youtube Video

191 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:29:12pm

Too crazy for the Texas GOP:

192 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:29:36pm

This is quite awesome

193 bubba zanetti  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:30:56pm
194 TedStriker  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:31:31pm

re: #191 Lidane

Too crazy for the Texas GOP:

Texas Rep. Steve Stockman loses longshot primary challenge to Sen. John Cornyn t.co
— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) March 5, 2014

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Suck it, Stockman…

195 Archangelus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:35:14pm

re: #191 Lidane

Too crazy for the Texas GOP:

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Excellent news - the man’s a nut.

196 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:38:33pm

197 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:39:42pm

So Pierre Omidyar is effectively promoting… Oh whatever. Won’t make a difference.

198 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:40:13pm

Dealing with Greenwald and his cult and people like him is just like dealing with wingnuts and Breitbart nuts.

199 Archangelus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:40:59pm

Is i wrong that I find myself somewhat wishing that there should be a law made that makes it illegal for someone to refer to himself or herself as a “patriot” in public while voicing enthusiastic support for a major opponent (official or not) of your country’s administration while attacking the freaking President?

200 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:43:46pm

re: #197 Gus

So Pierre Omidyar is effectively promoting… Oh whatever. Won’t make a difference.

It does make a difference, no matter how small.

201 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:43:51pm

re: #187 Gus

Though I, as a Coloradan, wholeheartedly support Wendy Davis’s campaign for governor, I have this sinking feeling she’s gonna get trounced in the election. Politically, socially, religiously, things are pretty friggin weird in Texas. LGF reader Shiplord Kirel can attest as much there in the lower panhandle. In Austin (especially Austin), San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, there’s people who aren’t wingnuts, to be sure, and I’m thankful that those voices are being heard on some level. But Texas being what it is, I just don’t know.

The Texas Democratic Party should focus on Latino issues and women issues. Stick to principled causes, like fair immigration and women’s rights.

What say Lizardom on the Texas Governors Race?

202 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:46:18pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

Though I, as a Coloradan, wholeheartedly support Wendy Davis’s campaign for governor, I have this sinking feeling she’s gonna get trounced in the election. Politically, socially, religiously, things are pretty friggin weird in Texas. LGF reader Shiplord Kirel can attest as much there in the lower panhandle. In Austin (especially Austin), San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, there’s people who aren’t wingnuts, to be sure, and I’m thankful that those voices are being heard on some level. But Texas being what it is, I just don’t know.

The Texas Democratic Party should focus on Latino issues and women issues. Stick to principled causes, like fair immigration and women’s rights.

What say Lizardom on the Texas Governors Race?

I think she has tremendous support —in and out of Texas. I wish I could vote for her for any office.

It may come down to electioneering shenanigans as in many other elections.

203 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:46:31pm

204 nines09  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:48:28pm

Every time I see that Salad Palin pinched out another piece like this I just want to punch John McCain in the mouth.

205 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:48:36pm

Brat dog was keeping my feet warm.

the Kid came home.

206 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:49:25pm

re: #199 Archangelus

Is i wrong that I find myself somewhat wishing that there should be a law made that makes it illegal for someone to refer to himself or herself as a “patriot” in public while voicing enthusiastic support for a major opponent (official or not) of your country’s administration while attacking the freaking President?

I’m against this. The freer the speech, the better. So these idiots have a hard-on for a dictator, yet call our rather centrist president a dictator while also calling him a weenie. Shows their true colors.

207 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:49:54pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

I think it’s unlikely she’ll win, but she’ll help out the downticket races enormously.

208 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:52:31pm

re: #206 teleskiguy

I’m against this. The freer the speech, the better. So these idiots have a hard-on for a dictator, yet call our rather centrist president a dictator while also calling him a weenie. Shows their true colors.

hmmm,,, patriot comes from?

patriarchy?

209 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:52:32pm

Rather astonishing that some people think this is some conspiracy hatched by the CIA and other “foreign elements.”

210 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:52:34pm

So, for the record, Obama is just like Hitler for providing healthcare, while Putin is nothing like Hitler for annexing portions of another country basing his claims on historic ties, right?

211 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:53:30pm

re: #207 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I think it’s unlikely she’ll win, but she’ll help out the downticket races enormously.

If she can get enough support to make it a close contest in ‘16, she’ll have done well.

212 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:54:24pm

re: #210 Kragar

So, for the record, Obama is just like Hitler for providing healthcare, while Putin is nothing like Hitler for annexing portions of another country basing his claims on historic ties, right?

This says quite the opposite: Image: 5DCVLXZ.png

213 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:55:53pm
214 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:57:21pm

re: #213 Gus

I bet his hat is a direct analog to our wingnuts’ tri-corn hat.

215 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:58:32pm

re: #213 Gus

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Okely dokely Major General Admiral Chief.

216 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:58:56pm

re: #215 Varek Raith

Okely dokely Major General Admiral Chief.

wait, isn’t there a song …

217 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 6:59:05pm

re: #214 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I bet his hat is a direct analog to our wingnuts’ tri-corn hat.

“Down with fascism! Now go back to the Jews and gays you prostitute!”

Sure, that makes sense.

218 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:03:03pm

re: #217 Gus

“Down with >fascism! Now go back to the Jews and gays you prostitute!”

Sure, that makes sense.

Because when I think of the face of fascism, I see a gay Jewish prostitute. Its like the first thing that comes to mind.
/

219 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:03:44pm

re: #218 Kragar

Because when I think of the face of fascism, I see a gay Jewish prostitute. Its like the first thing that comes to mind.
/

Well, that explains a lot.
:P

220 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:04:21pm

Goddamnit Ben Smith from BuzzFeed is singing Abby Martin’s praises.

221 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:05:03pm

re: #198 Gus

Dealing with Greenwald and his cult and people like him is just like dealing with wingnuts and Breitbart nuts.

It’s actually worse. The wingnuts believe the bullshit they spew. They are misguided but sincere believers.

Greenwald & Friends KNOW their bullshit is bullshit but they keep spewing it anyway. They are sociopaths.

222 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:05:15pm

It’s going to be Wendy Davis vs. Ted Nugent’s buddy: Texas Democrats Nominate Wendy Davis for Governor | abc13.com.

223 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:05:27pm

I don’t know --is this humor, or fact?

I’m having Page Posting Anxiety.

224 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:05:38pm
225 palomino  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:06:25pm

Comments at CNN are amazing…in a disgusting sense.

Overwhelmingly pro-Putin and anti-Obama. Not much understanding of the issues involving Ukraine, but that’s not really relevant in the first place. They know what they hate about Obama, and anyone opposing Obama on anything will get their support.

Bill Kristol recently said that it was “total bullshit” that the TP had racist tendencies. The bubble Kristol and his Fox compatriots live in is not only thick but impenetrable. The TP is the home of the birthers, and most TP members think Obama wasn’t even born in the US. How could such an organization NOT be filled with racists?

226 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:07:57pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

Though I, as a Coloradan, wholeheartedly support Wendy Davis’s campaign for governor, I have this sinking feeling she’s gonna get trounced in the election. Politically, socially, religiously, things are pretty friggin weird in Texas. LGF reader Shiplord Kirel can attest as much there in the lower panhandle. In Austin (especially Austin), San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, there’s people who aren’t wingnuts, to be sure, and I’m thankful that those voices are being heard on some level. But Texas being what it is, I just don’t know.

The Texas Democratic Party should focus on Latino issues and women issues. Stick to principled causes, like fair immigration and women’s rights.

What say Lizardom on the Texas Governors Race?

The view from one Austin Lib:

Her opponent is Greg “Wheels” Abbott, the current AG. As a younger man, a tree fell on him and paralyzed him from the waist down. Once he got a big, fat, settlement (which I don’t begrudge him), he came out as a Very Loud Voice in the Tort Reform battles of the last decade. That grudges me a lot.

Wendy has the usual array of Democratic stances on education, women’s health, health care in general, and the Social Compact. These should be fully supported by good Christians, but aren’t, in Texas. The great unwashed are deeply under the control of business money here.

Recently she came out in favor of open, as opposed to concealed, carry, which was the issue that sank Ann Richards in her re-election bid and got the Shrub elected. Some thought she was pandering, but I actually support the concept. If someone has a gun in the room, I’d prefer to know who it is.

This put Wheels in a quandary. He had never supported open carry, so he trotted everyone’s favorite admitted pedophile, Ted Nugent, on the campaign trail.

Much faffing ensued.

Wendy can make a fight of it if she raises enough money, but she’s got to peel off suburban moms in droves. Tough challenge. She also has to get out the Hispanic vote in toto and then win it. As my buddy Ramiro from the Rio Grande Valley states so well, “We don’t vote. We go to church. We have BBQ with our families. We don’t do politics because we know in our hearts that it won’t make a difference. We’re wrong, of course, we could change everything, but we just don’t feel it.”

Too bad. She’s a damn good candidate with solid policy initiatives. She just doesn’t have an -R after her name.

227 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:12:56pm

Youtube Video

228 Ming  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:13:09pm

I don’t know what bear wrestling entails. But it seems safe to add cruelty to animals to Putin’s resume. And to add it to the list of Things that Sarah Likes, Respects, and Admires.

230 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:15:11pm

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

wait, isn’t there a song …

Youtube Video

231 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:15:38pm

re: #227 teleskiguy

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Is Hunter tweeting from Hell?

232 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:16:10pm

re: #230 aagcobb

[Embedded content]

YES YES YES, that is it!

You are awesome!

233 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:16:31pm

re: #229 FemNaziBitch


Republican congressional candidate legally changes his name in order to sound more manly

Colonel Sanders it is.

234 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:16:49pm

re: #228 Ming

I don’t know what bear wrestling entails. But it seems safe to add cruelty to animals to Putin’s resume. And to add it to the list of Things that Sarah Likes, Respects, and Admires.

She was already known for shooting wolves from helicopters.

235 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:17:19pm

re: #234 aagcobb

She was already known for shooting wolves from helicopters.

And editing caribou to the ground

236 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:18:02pm

re: #231 FemNaziBitch

It’s a HST superfan, who tweets also as @GonzoCharacters and @300poundSamoan.

“My name? I’d rather not say. My brother’s in politics. Yeah, you understand.”

237 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:18:09pm

re: #232 FemNaziBitch

: )

238 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:18:14pm
239 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:19:20pm


Issa being thrown down a notch or two?

240 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:19:28pm

I can’t tell you all how nice it makes me feel that the tepid party favorites are almost without exception going down to defeat in Texas. Of course, if you had the real unbiased polls, yada yada yada. Deal with it losers.

RBS

241 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:20:07pm

re: #240 RealityBasedSteve

I can’t tell you all how nice it makes me feel that the tepid party favorites are almost without exception going down to defeat in Texas. Of course, if you had the real unbiased polls, yada yada yada. Deal with it losers.

RBS

Oh good. Some good news to cheer me up on this soon-to-be-snowy wild north country night.

242 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:20:54pm

re: #229 FemNaziBitch


Republican congressional candidate legally changes his name in order to sound more manly

Could be worse. Candidate #3 has got a major problem:

U.S. House - District 36 - GOP Primary
13 of 274 Precincts Reporting - 5%
Max Runoff Cands=2
Name Party Votes Vote %
Babin, Brian GOP 7,936 32%
Streusand, Ben GOP 6,552 26%
Manlove, John GOP 1,853 7%

243 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:21:52pm

re: #242 austin_blue

Could be worse. Candidate #3 has got a major problem:

U.S. House - District 36 - GOP Primary
13 of 274 Precincts Reporting - 5%
Max Runoff Cands=2
Name Party Votes Vote %
Babin, Brian GOP 7,936 32%
Streusand, Ben GOP 6,552 26%
Manlove, John GOP 1,853 7%

Smoke Man Muscle.

244 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:21:54pm
245 Bubblehead II  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:22:08pm

Night Lizards.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

Because for many, s/he isn’t there

Youtube Video

Become involved.

246 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:22:49pm

re: #242 austin_blue

Could be worse. Candidate #3 has got a major problem:

U.S. House - District 36 - GOP Primary
13 of 274 Precincts Reporting - 5%
Max Runoff Cands=2
Name Party Votes Vote %
Babin, Brian GOP 7,936 32%
Streusand, Ben GOP 6,552 26%
Manlove, John GOP 1,853 7%

ROTFLAMO

Babin has to be hard to say when drunk …

247 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:22:52pm

And now a moment of Zen

248 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:23:15pm

re: #242 austin_blue

Could be worse. Candidate #3 has got a major problem:

U.S. House - District 36 - GOP Primary
13 of 274 Precincts Reporting - 5%
Max Runoff Cands=2
Name Party Votes Vote %
Babin, Brian GOP 7,936 32%
Streusand, Ben GOP 6,552 26%
Manlove, John GOP 1,853 7%

249 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:23:42pm
250 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:23:58pm

re: #226 austin_blue

I think if Wendy Davis and Leticia Van de Putte work hard as a team and do a full court press for everything from San Antonio on south to the RGV and down to Laredo, and also work hard to appeal to urban and suburban women, they might have a shot.

Wendy’s the first woman to get nominated since Ann Richards. And for the first time the Dems have two women at the top of the ticket here. If they take advantage of that and really use Team Obama’s ground game and organizing it could be a horse race. They’ll be up against a very dedicated, very crazy Texas GOP, but I think they’ll do better than expected.

251 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:24:36pm

re: #242 austin_blue

Could be worse. Candidate #3 has got a major problem:

U.S. House - District 36 - GOP Primary
13 of 274 Precincts Reporting - 5%
Max Runoff Cands=2
Name Party Votes Vote %
Babin, Brian GOP 7,936 32%
Streusand, Ben GOP 6,552 26%
Manlove, John GOP 1,853 7%

I’ve seen worse.

Worked with a guy, same last name, but his first name was Mark, middle initial O.

The poor bastard.

252 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:25:08pm
253 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:25:42pm

re: #252 Gus

What on God’s green earth does that have to do with anything.

254 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:25:43pm

Night all. I’m going to retire for the evening, read another chapter of “The Plot Against America” by Philip Roth. 1940s America, Lindbergh becomes president on an isolationist platform, told from the perspective of a young boy in a Jewish family.

RBS

255 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:25:57pm

re: #44 Kid A

She’s British?
//

One of her great-uncles was Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake.

/Nothing but a good time.

256 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:26:54pm

re: #253 thedopefishlives

What on God’s green earth does that have to do with anything.

Drink!

257 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:27:03pm

re: #253 thedopefishlives

What on God’s green earth does that have to do with anything.

I think it has to do with “slow burn out”?

258 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:27:34pm

re: #253 thedopefishlives

What on God’s green earth does that have to do with anything.

Going down in flames?

RBS

259 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:27:37pm

re: #253 thedopefishlives

What on God’s green earth does that have to do with anything.

en.wikipedia.org

260 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:28:18pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

One of her great-uncles was Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake.

/Nothing but a good time.

“Mandrake, do you know why I only drink distilled water, or rain water?”

261 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:29:00pm

re: #259 Gus

en.wikipedia.org

O_o

262 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:29:19pm

re: #259 Gus

OK, that’s just weird.

263 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:29:49pm

Hobos used to drink Sterno. Not sure if they still do. Steve Stockman used to be a hobo.

264 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:31:02pm

Off to bed I go.

265 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:31:06pm

re: #259 Gus

en.wikipedia.org

Some people really are desperate to drink anything.

266 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:31:48pm

You should read the MRA responses to this on my fb.

267 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:31:52pm
268 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:32:20pm

re: #250 Lidane

I think if Wendy Davis and Leticia Van de Putte work hard as a team and do a full court press for everything from San Antonio on south to the RGV and down to Laredo, and also work hard to appeal to urban and suburban women, they might have a shot.

Wendy’s the first woman to get nominated since Ann Richards. And for the first time the Dems have two women at the top of the ticket here. If they take advantage of that and really use Team Obama’s ground game and organizing it could be a horse race. They’ll be up against a very dedicated, very crazy Texas GOP, but I think they’ll do better than expected.

I’ll hold that thought, but I’m a realist and you know how hard it will be to turn Texas this year.

269 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:33:58pm

re: #234 aagcobb

She was already known for shooting wolves from helicopters.

That’s part of the reason she’s praising Putin; She hopes he’ll let her hunt wolves with one of these helos.


Image: mi-24-leaflet-drop-hr.jpg

270 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:34:28pm

re: #267 Gus

Gus, you always find (or make) the greatest stuff. One of these days, I will have to start Twittering or whatever you kids call it.

271 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:34:43pm

re: #233 Varek Raith

Colonel Sanders it is.

Colonel Angus!

272 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:35:00pm

I don’t know is there a difference between a racist and an asshole in this situation?

I definitely see racism, but don’t have the words tonite …what do you think. I see DF’s point, but just don’t agree.

273 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:36:09pm

re: #267 Gus

That’s not fair to Sens. Rubio or McCain, both of whom condemned Putin’s incursion in no uncertain terms.

274 allegro  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:36:19pm

re: #250 Lidane

I think if Wendy Davis and Leticia Van de Putte work hard as a team and do a full court press for everything from San Antonio on south to the RGV and down to Laredo, and also work hard to appeal to urban and suburban women, they might have a shot.

Wendy’s the first woman to get nominated since Ann Richards. And for the first time the Dems have two women at the top of the ticket here. If they take advantage of that and really use Team Obama’s ground game and organizing it could be a horse race. They’ll be up against a very dedicated, very crazy Texas GOP, but I think they’ll do better than expected.

I’m counting on the GOP to assist their efforts considerably. The misogyny will be at a record high and it’s going to get very ugly. The more they spew, the more pissed off - and motivated - women are going to get.

275 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:36:56pm
276 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:37:33pm

I am beyond relieved that the LaRouche nutjob won’t be the Dem sacrificial lamb against Cornyn. I know he’s going to get another term, but at least he’ll have a legit opponent with a (D) after their name to steamroll instead of some LaRouche freak.

277 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:38:31pm

re: #268 austin_blue

I’ll hold that thought, but I’m a realist and you know how hard it will be to turn Texas this year.

Oh, Texas won’t turn blue. But I think they’ll beat expectations.

278 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:38:31pm

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know is there a difference between a racist and an asshole in this situation?

I definitely see racism, but don’t have the words tonite …what do you think. I see DF’s point, but just don’t agree.

Someone can have a lack of concern for someone else’s humanity (making them an asshole) without having any racial animus towards that other person.

279 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:38:36pm

Tonight, Mike and the Bots take on Ed Wood in…

THE SINISTER URGE!

Youtube Video

280 blueraven  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:39:39pm

The only slight surprise I see today is that Dan Patrick is winning (so far) over Incumbent David Dewhurst in the Texas Lt Governor (R) primary race.


team1.sos.state.tx.us

281 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:40:03pm

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

Someone can have a lack of concern for someone else’s humanity (making them an asshole) without having any racial animus towards that other person.

Now crossposted onto GGT’s Page.

282 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:40:12pm

Speaking of governors races, Colorado ought to be interesting on the Republican side. I’m hoping they nominate some Christian supremacist secessionist! Though I’m guessing it’s gonna be Pete Coors.

283 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:41:43pm

re: #277 Lidane

Oh, Texas won’t turn blue. But I think they’ll beat expectations.

That means you’ll be stuck with nugent fanboi as your governor :( How much worse than perry will he be?

284 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:43:06pm
285 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:43:27pm

re: #283 Interesting Times

That means you’ll be stuck with nugent fanboi as your governor :( How much worse than perry will he be?

Twin sons of different mothers. Abbott is smarter and more articulate.

286 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:44:06pm
287 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:45:25pm

re: #284 FemNaziBitch

I thought it was on a state-by-state basis here in the US. I’m pretty sure Minnesota provides mandatory paid maternity leave.

288 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:45:26pm

re: #283 Interesting Times

That means you’ll be stuck with nugent fanboi as your governor :( How much worse than perry will he be?

More Jesus in public high schools:
votesmart.org

289 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:45:36pm
290 teleskiguy  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:45:48pm

Man, look at this long list of Republican candidates running (or maybe planning on running) against incumbent Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper.

en.wikipedia.org

291 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:46:46pm

292 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:47:46pm

re: #287 thedopefishlives

dli.mn.gov

293 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:52:17pm
294 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:54:07pm

Hang on, guys, I have a question that will settle all of this presidential dick-swinging once and for all: Has Putin been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize?

…Wait, what?

Aw, crap. And here I thought I was on to something, too. Back to the drawing board.

295 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:55:24pm
296 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:57:44pm

re: #295 jaunte

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297 thedopefishlives  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:58:05pm

Night lizardfolk.

298 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:58:27pm

re: #287 thedopefishlives

I thought it was on a state-by-state basis here in the US. I’m pretty sure Minnesota provides mandatory paid maternity leave.

I think it is referring to federal statutes.

299 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:58:37pm


teehee

300 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:58:40pm

re: #296 Gus

With Dan Patrick as Paul McCartney.

301 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 7:59:58pm

re: #290 teleskiguy

Man, look at this long list of Republican candidates running (or maybe planning on running) against incumbent Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper.

en.wikipedia.org

What is with the weird names? I don’t even want to know the origins of that name.

302 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:00:56pm

Alan Grayson: Faux-Progressive Caveman:

The Orlando Sentinel reports that a judge has granted a temporary protective injunction against Grayson after Lolita Grayson filed paperwork accusing the congressman of pushing her against a door during a confrontation at their home on Saturday, causing her to fall and injuring her.

The Sentinel reports that her petition states that Rep. Grayson “showed up, unannounced” to their home and he asked to speak with her. She refused and asked him to leave. She then accuses the congressman of “deliberately and with force” pushing her “very hard against the front door, causing [her] to fall to the ground as a result,” the Sentinel reports.

SNIP

Grayson’s spokeswoman Lauren Doney called Lolita Grayson’s allegations “absolutely false, completely unfounded, and clearly designed to vilify and harm Congressman Grayson.”

She added that witnesses reject Lolita Grayson’s story calling it “an outright lie” and said “it was Ms. Grayson who physically attacked the Congressman as he attempted to visit with his children.” Lolita Grayson’s petition did mention that “in order to protect and defend herself,” she pushed the congressman’s face and kneed him in the stomach before calling 911, according to the Sentinel.

“Since filing for divorce, Ms. Grayson’s behavior has become increasingly erratic, and she has demonstrated an alarming disconnect from reality,” Doney’s statement continued.

Grayson’s defense is that his wife is delusional and that she attacked him. DARVO, anyone?

303 Ryan King  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:04:15pm

re: #252 Gus

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It was a good year

304 RadicalModerate  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:05:19pm

Greg Abbott, fresh off a GOP primary win for Texas Governor already starting to act like a total ass for the main campaign.

9:23 p.m. In a 13 minute speech to supporters in San Antonio, Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott highlighted his family’s multicultural foundation before stressing the importance of improving Texas’ education system.

He never mentioned his Democratic challenger, State Sen. Wendy Davis.

“I think that the answer to the future of Texas is one that offers more freedom and more opportunity for our fellow Texans; more freedom and opportunity for individuals by having their constitutional rights protected instead of trampled upon by their own federal government,” he said.

Abbott, who has sued the federal government 27 times while serving as the state attorney general, highlighted his penchant for challenging President Barack Obama. He applauded and thanked the military members in the audience and again commended the state for its relaxed regulatory climate and low taxes.

On that last highlighted part, Abbott became Attorney General in 2002, putting him at seven years shared with the George W. Bush administration.
Total lawsuits filed by him against the last two administrations:

Barack Obama: 27
George W. Bush: 3

Which would make his claim that he hasn’t been partisan during his term as AG a total baldfaced lie.

305 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:08:43pm

re: #280 blueraven

The only slight surprise I see today is that Dan Patrick is winning (so far) over Incumbent David Dewhurst in the Texas Lt Governor (R) primary race.

team1.sos.state.tx.us

I would burst something laughing if Dewhurst loses the primary. First, he lost to Ted Cruz. If he lost to Dan Patrick it would be glorious.

306 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:10:32pm

re: #304 RadicalModerate

Abbott is the guy who described his job as “I go to work, I sue the federal government, and I go home”, yes?

307 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:13:01pm

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Alan Grayson: Faux-Progressive Caveman:

SNIP

Grayson’s defense is that his wife is delusional and that she attacked him. DARVO, anyone?

Depends on who the multiple witnesses against her are. Without taking sides I will note that Lolita is a terrible burden of a name.

308 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:14:22pm

re: #305 Lidane

309 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:15:14pm
310 Aqua Obama  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:16:08pm

CNN comments are screwier than usual right now:

Владимир • 2 days ago
More than 20 years NATO invading and destroying countries around the world following interests of Western business elites and all what Russia has been doing here is protecting Russians on their land against extermination from NATO.
3048 likes >

311 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:16:42pm

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Who was on who’s property?

I think you called that one.

313 RadicalModerate  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:18:06pm

re: #296 Gus

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What makes this fun is the fact that Dan Patrick got close to twice as many votes (from returns so far) versus Dewhurst’s totals, which means the incumbent has a hard road to retain his office.

Also, possibly because most of the Democratic primaries really weren’t that competitive - very few fielded more than one candidate - there were a LOT more Republican primary voters than Democrats.
For those interested, here’s a link to the important race totals as the results come in.

nbcdfw.com

314 Chrysicat  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:18:48pm

So I’ve not heard about that idiot LaRouchite Kesha Rogers…did publicizing that she’s not a real Dem give them a real Senate nominee, or is she going to be on the ballot and knocking the turnout for Wendy down because of it?

315 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:20:42pm
316 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:20:43pm

OK, this is kewl!

317 RadicalModerate  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:21:21pm

re: #306 The Mountain That Blogs

Abbott is the guy who described his job as “I go to work, I sue the federal government, and I go home”, yes?

That would be him. He’s also a huge hypocrite when it comes to his tort reform ideas. He wants to limit negligence settlements to next to nothing for plaintiffs - while he himself got over $10 million after suing a homeowner whose tree fell on him and cost him the use of his legs.

318 blueraven  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:21:24pm

Jeb’s son, George P Bush is running away with the TX Land Commissioner primary race. No runoff here

75% - 25%

319 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:21:25pm
320 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:21:38pm

re: #314 Chrysicat

So I’ve not heard about that idiot LaRouchite Kesha Rogers…did publicizing that she’s not a real Dem give them a real Senate nominee, or is she going to be on the ballot and knocking the turnout for Wendy down because of it?

321 Belafon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:21:53pm

re: #314 Chrysicat

nbcdfw.com

Looks like David Alameel is going to win this one without a runoff, even with four opponents.

322 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:22:36pm

Here’s the Chris Matthews segment someone mentioned earlier
Matthews: President Went too Far on Friday; Blames Obama for Encouraging Ukrainian Crisis

Again with Stephen Cohen who seems the official media Russian apologist.

Cohen went on to claim that Obama “has not conducted himself well in the Russian matter.” And good conduct, for Cohen, means avoiding that crazy new Ukrainian government. “What’s driving this crisis now — whatever you think of Putin — is the insurrectionary, revolutionary, extreme politics in Ukraine.”

Matthews largely agreed, even blaming Obama for encouraging the crisis. “I think the president went too far on Friday,” he said. “I think the president played a part in this escalation on Friday.”

323 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:24:12pm

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

Who was on who’s property?

I think you called that one.

Alan Grayson was coming over to the house his wife lives in to visit their two children.

324 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:25:40pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

She also RT’d this:

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because it is the State that is important and powerful, not the people?

This is what the RWNJ’s think should be the status quo in the US? And, they quote the Founding Fathers?


Yes, this is still bothering me.

325 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:26:52pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Alan Grayson was coming over to the house his wife lives in to visit their two children.

“shows up unannounced”

wonder if the witnesses of whom his spokesperson refers are the children …

326 RadicalModerate  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:27:16pm

re: #314 Chrysicat

So I’ve not heard about that idiot LaRouchite Kesha Rogers…did publicizing that she’s not a real Dem give them a real Senate nominee, or is she going to be on the ballot and knocking the turnout for Wendy down because of it?

Rogers lost big in the primary. Current returns show her over 100,000 votes down to David Alameel, who the Texas Democratic Party officially endorsed.

327 Jay C  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:28:51pm

“new heights of crass”??

More like “new depths of stupid”!

Remind me again why anyone should waste even a second of time thinking about any drivel Sarah Palin spouts?

328 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:31:10pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Alan Grayson was coming over to the house his wife lives in to visit their two children.

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to that story. This is what happens in divorce cases. He’s very wealthy and his wife is setting the stage to get as much of his money as possible. Grayson’s a complete asshole for many reasons without the wife beating allegations.

329 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:32:08pm
The worst part: no one said anything, including us. We sat quietly in terror, hands folded over our laps, staring at the screen. The misogynists were only a few men, among numerous progressive men and women, but they were the ones who were heard. These few men do not represent an entire industry but they did display a societal problem that is reflected on screen.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

People seem not to hear to women even when the speak-up. WE have to come together en masse and SCREAM. Then we are called bitches (which you know I claim with pride)

A few male assholes/predators make the situation bad for all men.

Men, time to man-up and check the predators that share your gender.

330 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:32:45pm

re: #328 Killgore Trout

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to that story. This is what happens in divorce cases. He’s very wealthy and his wife is setting the stage to get as much of his money as possible. Grayson’s a complete asshole for many reasons without the wife beating allegations.

He seems to be making it easy for her.

331 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:32:51pm
332 jaunte  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:33:08pm

Texas Monthly: The Best and Worst Legislators 2013

Among the best: Wendy Davis
texasmonthly.com

Among the worst: Dan Patrick
texasmonthly.com

-‘Demagogue’
- ‘Jimmy Swaggart tearful moments’
- ‘flair for the overdramatic’

333 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:35:05pm

re: #330 FemNaziBitch

He seems to be making it easy for her.

He’s got a massive ego and he’s told some pretty big lies before. That’s why I find the story credible, because alan Grayson is exactly the kind of man whose response to an true allegation of abuse would be a DARVO.

334 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:35:12pm
335 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:35:16pm

The Beatles - Twist and Shout

Youtube Video

336 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:36:55pm
337 palomino  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:37:56pm

re: #293 FemNaziBitch

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Can anyone think of a hypothetical where the far right would support Obama or anything he does? I don’t mean in an election, I mean any kind of political action or confrontation.

When you support the authoritarian leader of Russia over the democratically elected president of your own nation, things are really really fucked up.

When the hatred of your own president trumps everything else, the term United States of America becomes a joke.

338 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:38:01pm

re: #331 Gus

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Didn’t we just cut the military budget last week?

339 RadicalModerate  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:38:36pm

One other tidbit from the Texas primaries —

It appears that “Kinky” Friedman will make the Democratic runoff for Commissioner of Agriculture.

You might remember him from his run for Texas Governor in 2006, where he was the first independent candidate to actually make the main ballot, and got a respectable 15% of the total vote.

He’s got 50 years in the agriculture business, along with his successful music career and was one of the people with the Peace Corps who helped revolutionize farming methods in Borneo.

340 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:39:07pm

re: #338 Killgore Trout

Didn’t we just cut the military budget last week?

That was more sequester fun. The Pentagon was able to keep some programs going by shuffling around money, but that has run out.

341 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:43:46pm

re: #338 Killgore Trout

Didn’t we just cut the military budget last week?

What Obama proposed was in line for the budget level that Congressman Ryan and Senator Murray agreed to for Fiscal Years 2014 and 2015. What Obama is trying to do is undo the cuts set for FYs 2016-2021. The problem is that the House is likely to insist that the cuts then come from somewhere else, most likely entitlement programs.

342 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:45:30pm

Something

Youtube Video

343 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:45:53pm

re: #332 jaunte

Texas Monthly: The Best and Worst Legislators 2013

Among the best: Wendy Davis
texasmonthly.com

Among the worst: Dan Patrick
texasmonthly.com

So, of course, he will win the Lt. Governor’s race going away.

344 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:46:12pm

re: #338 Killgore Trout

Didn’t we just cut the military budget last week?

What Kragar said. I guess. :D

345 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:46:40pm
346 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:47:21pm

George Harrison - My Sweet Lord

Youtube Video

347 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:47:34pm

re: #340 Kragar

re: #341 Dark_Falcon

Ah, got it.

348 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:47:43pm

re: #345 Lidane

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That is one sick fuck right there.

349 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:47:59pm

re: #259 Gus

en.wikipedia.org

I remember the Sterno deaths in Philly happening when I was a kid.

350 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:48:18pm

re: #337 palomino

Can anyone think of a hypothetical where the far right would support Obama or anything he does?

Realistically? No. They would support his resignation from office.

351 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:50:24pm

352 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:51:24pm

re: #350 aagcobb

Realistically? No. They would support his resignation impeachment and removal from office, and his imprisonment in Gitmo.

FTFY

353 palomino  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:51:25pm

re: #350 aagcobb

Realistically? No.

Sorry to say it, but the capital U in USA become a little more like a lower case letter each day.

A white president, R or D, will break the fever a little𠉫ut not all that much.

354 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:51:31pm

re: #350 aagcobb

Can anyone think of a hypothetical where the far right would support Obama or anything he does?

Realistically? No.

This is why I want to see Obama start a campaign called “Don’t Drink Water Contaminated by Raw Sewage Day”

355 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:52:23pm

re: #337 palomino

Can anyone think of a hypothetical where the far right would support Obama or anything he does? I don’t mean in an election, I mean any kind of political action or confrontation.

When you support the authoritarian leader of Russia over the democratically elected president of your own nation, things are really really fucked up.

When the hatred of your own president trumps everything else, the term United States of America becomes a joke.

Ya know, I remember when Ahmadinejad (sp?) dissed Bush at the UN, even Charlie Rangel stood up and supported Bush, basically saying “My president right or wrong”.

I have yet to see any member of the GOP come close.

356 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:52:59pm

re: #340 Kragar

That was more sequester fun. The Pentagon was able to keep some programs going by shuffling around money, but that has run out.

Bob, it get’s confusing.

357 RadicalModerate  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:55:37pm

re: #345 Lidane

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I’m willing to bet that Pratt just loves this guy.

Larry Pratt’s hero?

358 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:55:42pm

re: #355 FemNaziBitch

Ya know, I remember when Ahmadinejad (sp?) dissed Bush at the UN, even Charlie Rangel stood up and supported Bush, basically saying “My president right or wrong”.

I have yet to see any member of the GOP come close.

Sorry, it was Chavez

He also said it on the Senate/House floor.

359 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:58:31pm

re: #358 FemNaziBitch

Sorry, it was Chavez

He also said it on the Senate/House floor.

I think it as the same time that Ammdinnajad (sp?) said they just didn’t have homosexuals in Iran

360 Mattand  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:58:43pm

re: #355 FemNaziBitch

Ya know, I remember when Ahmadinejad (sp?) dissed Bush at the UN, even Charlie Rangel stood up and supported Bush, basically saying “My president right or wrong”.

I have yet to see any member of the GOP come close.

It takes a lot of massive cognitive dissonance to keep supporting this party these days.

361 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:59:04pm

Dave Dudley - Vietnam Blues

Youtube Video

362 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:01:26pm

re: #353 palomino

Sorry to say it, but the capital U in USA become a little more like a lower case letter each day.

A white president, R or D, will break the fever a little��ut not all that much.

In reality, I think that is only in Washington D.C.

In the neighborhoods, mostly we are all good.

363 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:03:21pm

Junior Brown & Red Simpson - Nitro Express

Youtube Video

364 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:03:38pm

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeha!

365 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:04:47pm

Good Night, All.

366 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:05:03pm

O/T

Back.

20 obits, 11 pictures, 5 logos, 7.25 hours.

The other people in the newsroom were all “holy shit!” about that.

Now to eat something and catch up on LGF.

367 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:07:25pm

Junior Brown - Broke Down South Of Dallas

Youtube Video

368 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:11:41pm

re: #341 Dark_Falcon

What Obama proposed was in line for the budget level that Congressman Ryan and Senator Murray agreed to for Fiscal Years 2014 and 2015.

What Obama is trying to do is undo the cuts set for FYs 2016-2021. The problem is that the House is likely to insist that the cuts then come from somewhere else, most likely entitlement programs.

LOLWUT?

The House Republican budgets have consistently met the needs of our military leadership,” said Paul Ryan, the Wisconsin Republican. “It’s disappointing that the President continues to use these vital funds as bargaining chips for higher taxes and more domestic spending.

Paul Ryan is such a scumbag. Obama has Hagel propose a budget that increases military spending over Ryan’s own numbers and Ryan accuses him of starving the military. Republicans don’t care much about balancing additions to the defense budget, that and oil company subsidies are the two of the very few reasons Republicans believe government should even exist.

369 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:16:21pm
370 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:16:24pm

re: #337 palomino

Can anyone think of a hypothetical where the far right would support Obama or anything he does? I don’t mean in an election, I mean any kind of political action or confrontation.

A transdimensional invasion by aliens that are even blacker than he is. Like super, coal pitch, albedo of absolute zero no light reflects off of them at all, black.

371 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:18:32pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, technically, Uhura was 4th in command of the Enterprise, after Kirk/Spock/Scotty.

Shoulda showed that.

372 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:19:08pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

373 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:21:16pm

re: #121 The Ghost of a Flea

Paul: ‘Illegitimate’ For Federal Courts To ‘Intrude’ On State Gay Marriage Bans

Dear Senator;

Loving v Virginia (1967)

In addendum: Please stop being a Confederate chicken fucker.*

*That’s not a metaphor for anything. You fuck chickens. You’re scared of gay marriage because it will lead to bestiality, which will mean a legal structure in which the chickens you fuck can obtain palimony.

…for the footnote.

374 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:22:40pm

re: #130 RealityBasedSteve

I SO totally misread that. In my brain it turned into “Putin as one who wrestles >bears IN OIL”. Not that that doesn’t make one hell of a mental image, just not one I want to savor right after dinner.

And it exists on the internet… Now.

Photos or videos, I’m sure.

375 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:27:10pm

re: #191 Lidane

Too crazy for the Texas GOP:

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376 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:32:18pm

How did I miss this?
Youtube Video

377 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:33:20pm

re: #210 Kragar

So, for the record, Obama is just like Hitler for providing healthcare, while Putin is nothing like Hitler for annexing portions of another country basing his claims on historic ties, right?

378 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:36:26pm

Sheesh! We’ve been invaded by a Kremlin partisan army disguised as wingnuts and dudebros.

379 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:39:27pm

Abba - Mamma Mia

Youtube Video

380 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:40:37pm

re: #379 Gus

Abba - Mamma Mia

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My Chemical Romance - Mama

Youtube Video

381 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:43:39pm

re: #380 Kragar

My Chemical Romance - Mama

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Not syncing with my current wavelength.

382 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:46:48pm

re: #381 Gus

Not syncing with my current wavelength.

Very well then.

Youtube Video

383 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:47:22pm

Pink Martini - Dosvedanya Mio Bombino

Youtube Video

384 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:47:24pm

Slade — Mama Weer All Crazee Now:

Youtube Video

385 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:49:25pm

re: #382 Kragar

Very well then.

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Thanks. They’re an older boy band.

386 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:49:29pm

re: #384 Lidane

Slade — Mama Weer All Crazee Now:

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I love Slade, they were my first concert at Winterland with J Geils Band.

387 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:50:34pm

388 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:51:18pm

Dale Hawkins - Wildcat Tamer

Youtube Video

389 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:53:02pm

The Bus Driver Song

Youtube Video

390 palomino  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:55:00pm

re: #362 FemNaziBitch

In reality, I think that is only in Washington D.C.

In the neighborhoods, mostly we are all good.

A majority of tea partiers and nearly half of all Republicans still think our president was born in another country. Sadly that’s not just in DC.

When that many millions are more obsessed with hatred of the president than supporting their own nation, then I think it’s fair to say that the United in USA is in a weak position.

391 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:59:43pm

Youtube Video

ha!

392 Gus  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 9:59:48pm


Finally some common ground.

393 chadu  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:03:39pm

re: #392 Gus

Finally some common ground.

She seems to care a lot more about Israel than Minnesota, but what do I know?

394 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:24:02pm

re: #393 chadu

She seems to care a lot more about Israel than Minnesota, but what do I know?

Bachmann doesn’t give a shit about Israel. She’s just like all the other raving fundie lunatics who only want Israel to exist so that it can be destroyed in the Second Coming.

395 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:25:30pm

re: #394 Lidane

Bachmann doesn’t give a shit about Israel. She’s just all the other raving fundie lunatics who only want Israel to exist so that it can be destroyed in the Second Coming.

But remember, we need to be suspicious of Iran because of the Mahdi.

396 palomino  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:27:11pm

re: #394 Lidane

Bachmann doesn’t give a shit about Israel. She’s just all the other raving fundie lunatics who only want Israel to exist so that it can be destroyed in the Second Coming.

No, she cares.
///
She’s willing to give Jews one last chance to accept Christ before they get sent, along with all other non-Christians, to burn in hell for eternity.

Because He loves us!

397 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:28:26pm

re: #396 palomino

No, she cares. She’s willing to give Jews >one last chance to accept Christ before they get sent, along with all other non-Christians, to burn in hell for eternity.

Because He loves us!

because she is the determinant in this situation.

She will know what is in each every heart at that “last chance” moment.

398 palomino  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:29:59pm

re: #397 FemNaziBitch

because she is the determinant in this situation.

She will know what is in each every heart at that “last chance” moment.

Don’t you love the ultra-religious right in America? How would I know what was in my heart without them? Or how evil I really am? I should thank them.

399 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:30:27pm

re: #397 FemNaziBitch

because she is the determinant in this situation.

She will know what is in each every heart at that “last chance” moment.

Just like she knew God said she should run for President.

400 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:31:46pm

OT, I wanted to comment on the whole “mental health/anxiety/interference of others” discussion from Saturday started by A Mom Anon.

I’ve had ADD since I was a child. Not ADHD. I was never hyper or over excitable, but definitely had attention span issues. I medicated in grade school, then went off them for high school and college and went back on a different medication a few years ago which does help me.

I also went to an ER awhile back for anxiety related chest pain and, like A Mom Anon, was told it was simply stress related. I wasn’t given any prescription, just told by the doctor what over the counter meds might help me.

I came to realize a while ago that my mind is just wired differently from most other people. That’s what ADD does, it gives me a more active mental state than most. Typically my thoughts are running a hundred miles a minute.

Yes, I may be awkward in social situations, yes I may be a bit shy and introverted, yes I may be a bit quirky at times but I LIKE those things about me. It makes my life intriguing and enjoyable. I’m blessed to have a close group of friends and family who love me despite my quirks.

While I can become, in a sense, more “normal” while medicated I certainly wouldn’t want to spend time with someone who could only tolerate me in my medicated state because that’s not the real me, that’s not the me you get 75 or more percent of the time.

One of my gripes about the American medical system is that they are so fast to shove pills into your hands. In Canada, the care was for more targeted at the underlying causes rather than the presenting symptoms. If I had gone to an American ER with those chest pains, I have no doubt I’d be walking out with at least three scripts in my hand.

The prevailing climate of care in this country that puts way too much emphasis on pills and way too little on mental health/preventative care is a big. big problem.

I have, of my own avail, researched extensively how to manage my ADD without medication and I have learned to do so quite effectively. I was able to graduate high school and college (with a 3.2 GPA), get married, hold down a job and do tons of other things while not medicating at all. I’m not saying it was always easy, but I learned to manage.

I accept that I need the medication sometime but I also accept my condition is part of who I am and I have no reason whatsoever to be ashamed of it. My ADD makes me no more or less human than anyone else.

The reality is everyone, regardless of their current state of health, mental or otherwise, deserves their dignity. Don’t pretend like you understand me, don’t think you know exactly what I’m going through because you don’t. You’re not me, you never will be.

And that’s okay. All I ask is you treat me with respect. Let me be who I am. It’s my life. For the most part, I can handle it. If I feel like I can’t, I’ll ask for help.

401 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:34:21pm

I also wanted to say how much I love that LGF is a great community of real people who honestly care for one another. I’ve had so many great and personal discussions on here that don’t come remotely close to anything I’ve had on other websites.

It feels like we’re a family and that’s a really great atmosphere to have.

402 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:47:15pm

re: #401 Eclectic Cyborg

I also wanted to say how much I love that LGF is a great community of real people who honestly care for one another. I’ve had so many great and personal discussions on here that don’t come remotely close to anything I’ve had on other websites.

It feels like we’re a family and that’s a really great atmosphere to have.

(((((Eclectic Cyborg))))))

403 Kragar  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:10:14pm
404 klys  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:12:15pm

It was one of those “let’s curse the world for hours” days. I really just want to put holes in things for a while.

405 klys  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:48:01pm

This is awesome on so many levels.

406 Lidane  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:51:55pm

Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods won an award:

407 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:52:01pm

nytol

408 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 1:41:16am

MP3 Audio

409 urbanmeemaw  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 1:51:52am

re: #254 RealityBasedSteve

I really enjoyed that book.

410 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 2:18:43am

Down in Texastan, much is being made of the election results which supposedly show that the establishment Republicans survived Tea Partying insurgents. However, such claims don’t apply to the lieutenant governor race:

It’s David Dewhurst vs. Dan Patrick in Texas lieutenant governor runoff

I don’t know why the Dallas News put Dewhurst first in the headline as Patrick appears to be the leader.

Anyway, Patrick is among the nastiest of the nasty atavists, a vicious demagogue in development, and about as much of a hypocrite as one can find among the hard right.

Should Patrick be elected he’ll provide many head-desk moments.

411 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 2:24:25am

Over the past few seasons of DWTS the turn towards the even-more-than-ever-before cloying heart-tugging charades have really turned me off of what is the #1 television show in America on Mondays, so I didn’t even keep up with the news of the cast announcement for the coming season.

It turns out I recognize one of the names:

‘Dancing With the Stars’ announces celebrity contestants: Drew Carey, Diana Nyad, Billy Dee Williams and more

I wonder how long Carey will last. My suspicions are that he’ll be gone quickly if the voting method remains the same as last season.

412 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:04:54am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

Quirky people are fun to be around. Most of my friends are quirky people. Maybe I am, too.

The students I had who were ADD/ADHD were hell to teach sometimes, but were also really fun people. Certainly most of them had to work a lot harder than their “normal” classmates to achieve the same level in class, but all of them (AFAIK) did just what you did: graduated college, got good jobs, got married, had kids.

Fortunately, high school is survivable for most people.

413 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:07:10am

re: #411 freetoken

You don’t recognize the others? Diana Nyad and Billy Dee (Lando Calrissian) Williams?

414 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:08:42am

re: #410 freetoken

Down in Texastan, much is being made of the election results which supposedly show that the establishment Republicans survived Tea Partying insurgents. However, such claims don’t apply to the lieutenant governor race:

It’s David Dewhurst vs. Dan Patrick in Texas lieutenant governor runoff

I don’t know why the Dallas News put Dewhurst first in the headline as Patrick appears to be the leader.

Patrick is leading, but it looks like the Dallas Morning News went with alphabetical order for their headline, unless they have some sort of “incumbent vs. challenger” style rule all the time. Since I’m not in Dallas, I have no idea what their usual style is.

Anyway, Patrick is among the nastiest of the nasty atavists, a vicious demagogue in development, and about as much of a hypocrite as one can find among the hard right.

Should Patrick be elected he’ll provide many head-desk moments.

If Patrick wins the primary, I expect to see a lot of people openly campaigning against him and endorsing Leticia Van De Putte, even if they’re not Democrats. Patrick didn’t get a single endorsement statewide from any newspaper. in fact, the Houston Chronicle even begged voters to do the ANYBODY BUT DAN PATRICK vote mambo:

Republican voters assessing the four lieutenant governor candidates in this spring’s primary should keep in mind a phenomenon we find curious, perhaps unprecedented. Republican officeholders during interviews with the Chronicle editorial board in recent weeks have expressed very firm views about the lieutenant governor’s race, and they’ve expressed those views with a simple, unequivocal statement: Anybody but Patrick.

Frankly, we’ve been surprised by their comments. We’re well aware that state Sen. Dan Patrick is outspoken and controversial, but we were unaware of the depth of antipathy among his legislative peers and their grave concerns about his candidacy.

The consensus seems to be that Patrick, elected in 2006, lacks the temperament to lead the Senate, which is the lieutenant governor’s chief responsibility. The former shock-jock sportscaster and current radio executive and talk-show host doesn’t play well with others, so to speak, whether Democrat or Republican. He’s perceived to be guided by ambition above all else (and that’s saying something when even fellow politicians are taken aback).

He’s basically Rick Santorum if Santorum had ever had a radio gig. NO ONE likes him, even among the elected GOP in this state, which is a Big Fucking Deal since the Lt. Governor leads the Legislature. If they all hate him, he’d never get anything done. But he’s a full-bore wingnut and there are plenty of those in this state.

If he manages to beat Dewhurst, not only would that be a final death knell for Dewhurst’s political career, but the Lt. Gov race would get really interesting really fast.

415 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:13:32am

re: #413 wheat-dogghazi

You don’t recognize the others? Diana Nyad and Billy Dee (Lando Calrissian) Williams?

I had to see the images of Williams to recognize him.

The others - even the images didn’t help.

416 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:27:17am

Conor goes all in:

Obama Is Complicit in Suppressing the Truth About Torture

President Obama is complicit in suppressing the truth about CIA torture of prisoners. […]

Finally, and perhaps most alarmingly, Udall cryptically writes to Obama, “As you are aware, the CIA has recently taken unprecedented action against the Committee in relation to the internal CIA review, and I find these actions to be incredibly troubling for the Committee’s oversight responsibilities and for our democracy.”

What does it mean for the CIA to take “unprecedented action” against its overseers? Senator Udall tells the president that he knows they share, “a commitment to transparency and the rule of law.” That clearly gives Obama too much credit. On torture, Obama has violated the law. And his commitment to transparency is illusory-in fact, he has amassed a historically bad record on that issue.

But Senator Udall is correct when he writes that “the American people deserve a proper and accurate accounting of the history, management, operation, and effectiveness of the CIA’s Detention and Interrogation Program.” It remains absurd that Obama keeps allowing the very agency exposed in that report to vet and suppress it.

I’m having visions of Friedersdorf and his ilk joining the Tea Partiers calling for Obama’s impeachment, marching hand in hand down the Mall.

With puppets.

417 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:27:40am

re: #220 teleskiguy

Goddamnit Ben Smith from BuzzFeed is singing Abby Martin’s praises.

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Ben Smith never does his homework.

418 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:30:53am

I’m trying to simultaneously hold in my mind two allegations:
1) Conor’s that Obama is protecting the CIA;
2) WaPo claiming Obama is doing international relations from a fantasy worldview of peace and brotherhood and he needs to get back to the real world.

My frontal lobes are feeling stretched.

419 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:32:05am

re: #415 freetoken

Nyad swam from Cuba to Florida in 2013 at age 64. She swam from The Bahamas to Florida in ‘79, and swam around Manhattan in ‘75.

Just checked the photo at the link. I gotta say most of the others are unknown to me. If they were on TV within the last decade, I probably wouldn’t recognize them.

420 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:34:53am

More clear evidence that we need to go to war, again, to teach the world something or other:

China Decides On Double-Digit Hike For Military Spending In 2014, Its Highest In Three Years; Japan, US Concerned

421 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 3:44:12am

No, Jurassic Park does not need to be “rebooted”:

Jurassic World adds two more to cast, including a human villain you might recognize

As anyone who’s ever seen a Jurassic Park movie knows, dinosaurs aren’t the only enemy. Certain humans tend to be big jerks too, and we now know that the chief jerk of the Homo sapiens contingent in Universal’s series reboot Jurassic World will be Vincent D’Onofrio.

[…]

Jurassic World is currently in its pre-production phase, with director Colin Trevorrow (Safety Not Guaranteed) prepping the growing cast for the story/script he developed with creative partner Derek Connolly. Bryce Dallas Howard and Chris Pratt are both currently attached to star as well. Steven Spielberg will bring his experience creating the film version of Michael Crichton’s books into a producer role, alongside Frank Marshall and Pat Crowley.

422 Ryan King  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:04:46am

re: #420 freetoken

More clear evidence that we need to go to war, again, to teach the world something or other:

China Decides On Double-Digit Hike For Military Spending In 2014, Its Highest In Three Years; Japan, US Concerned

Over the last several days, in the aftermath of Ukraine and Hagel announcing a military funding decline, it’s been very clear to me listening to the right wing:

1. You don’t ever x 1,000,000 cut the defense budget because evil will flourish.
2. Obama is to blame for Ukraine, and Obama is doing everything wrong WRT Ukraine.

I’m beginning to regard right wing pundits with the same level of respect as creationists: debating a creationist right wing propagandist is like playing chess with a pigeon. They knock all the pieces over and crap all over the board and prance around like they won.

A key talking point is that we used to focus our capability in having a war on two fronts, and now with a one front strategy, that will embolden evil states to take advantage of that ‘weak’ posture. Because we all know that when we had a ‘two war’ strategy and actually fought two wars at a time, that emboldened Evil State #3 to do their evil.

Everyone remembers that, right?

423 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:16:17am

Memo to Palin: If this country could be run on simple instinct, anyone could do it, you included, but we wouldn’t last very long. There is a reason we have an educational system in this country—it tends to civilize society. Too bad you were a poor student who failed at that, too. You lack the self-awareness and empathy toward others that makes a person an even acceptable leader because you lack cognitive awareness. You and those like you are destroyers of nations, not their salvation. Conversely, Barack Obama is exactly the opposite of what you convey to a discerning public.

And you’re going to look pretty fucking stupid trying to totter around on 6” stilettos when you’re 70 and still trying to bring in the bucks based on your only talent, that of hucksterism. That is, if you’re still around, because your “instincts” just aren’t that good without someone around to prop you up.

424 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:25:54am

Intimidation tactics against women in Ukraine by Russia-favoring men.

425 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:32:36am

re: #346 Gus

George Harrison - My Sweet Lord

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He totally plagiarized that song.

He’s so fine
Wish he were mine
That handsome guy over there
The one with the wavy hair
I don’t know how I’m gonna do it (doo lang doo lang!)
But I’m gonna make him mine! (doo lang doo lang!)
Be the envy of all the girls
It’s just a matter of time.

426 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:34:04am

re: #424 Justanotherhuman

My gut is telling me that so much of what we are seeing over this Crimea thing - from the actual parties on the ground in Crimea, to the Russians, to the American right wing and neo-conservative punditry - has much to do about male posturing and the need for conflict.

That’s right - humans, and particularly males - need conflict.

Testosterone does alter behavior, often leading to more aggressive behavior.

I guess I can chalk all this up to evolution, the evolution of sexual reproduction, and so forth, but that would probably diminish the moral weight of all that is happening.

427 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:34:29am
428 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:36:34am

re: #413 wheat-dogghazi

You don’t recognize the others? Diana Nyad and Billy Dee (Lando Calrissian) Williams?

Diana Nyad is the open water swimmer, who tried to swim from Florida to Cuba but was almost eaten by TEH JELLYFISH.

429 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:39:23am
430 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:42:30am

Just a reminder

Go Blue

431 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:46:24am

re: #284 FemNaziBitch

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American Exceptionalism at its finest.

RBS

432 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:46:54am

Mental illness, American-style.

Rescuer: Pregnant mom intentionally drove van with 3 kids inside into ocean

Read more: wesh.com

433 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:47:25am

Speaking of evolution, for those who have not kept up on this story the past few days, Bryan College in TN created a new mandate for all its faculty to sign a very hardline, literal Adam and Eve statement of faith. That has caused outrage in certain circles and the fur is still flying.

As Peter Enns puts it:

I’ve said this many times and I’ll say it again. A school can govern itself any way it wishes and can believe what it wants to believe. It can govern itself intellectually back into the Stone Age for all I care (provided that Stone Age didn’t begin more than 6000 years ago), and students and their parents are free to pay nearly $30,000 a year for the right.

Bryan college was created back in the Scopes Trial era by fundamentalists to fight back at modernism so I guess none of us really should be surprised by their upping the dogma ante.

I bring it up here to offer again my observation that the worldview collapse that is going on around us lay below much of the grind and flailing we see in the media and politics and about everywhere else.

The old, human-created for human-consumption, worldview of magick and super-beings and such was there to assuage the pain of life.

And life can bring lots of pain.

Take away that worldview and we have to find new ways of dealing with pain. Typically, the approach has been to medicate ourselves (drugs, including alcohol, food, etc.) But while that might work (more or less, usually less) for an individual it doesn’t work for an entire society.

Our brave new world is a material (not supernatural) world. A world for mercantilists and others who want to extract the most to get to be the richest.

It’s not just nationalism which is driving Russian’s actions in Crimea. It’s world shipping and commerce. They need to control the Black Sea as that is their key southern means of international commerce and naval power. It’ll take centuries before the Arctic is ice free most of the year (it will eventually get there.)

The new budget proposal from Obama does not include the hundreds of billions of dollars it would need for the US to maintain 2 fronted-wars, much less n-fronts which frankly is needed if one is to “control” the world. The bully right will huff and puff and do its testosterone thing, but I maintain we simply cannot afford (in several meanings of that word) to try and “control” the world.

No on controls the world.

434 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:52:30am

re: #432 Justanotherhuman

Mental illness, American-style.

Rescuer: Pregnant mom intentionally drove van with 3 kids inside into ocean

Read more: wesh.com

Google Lawrence DeLisle.

435 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:07:32am

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I added that video of Abby Martin as an update to the post. Un-freaking-real. She went from a completely loony 9/11 Truther to a spokesmodel for Russia Today. And now The Mighty Greenwald says she’s a heroine of independent journalism.

What a world.

I find it amusing when someone says “I started researching ___________ [fill in the blank]”, which translates to: I googled blogs and websites operated by people with like-minded, conspiracy-driven agendas who have never performed a research-driven experiment.

436 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:12:18am

re: #434 Pie-onist Overlord

Google Lawrence DeLisle.

Yes, and Susan Smith, with a dollop of racism included.

437 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:16:30am

It’s kind of funny to see fundamentalists lavishing praise on Ross Douthat, which they don’t often do, over what I consider to be a not-even-rising-to-facile editorial of Douthat’s from last weekend:

The Terms of Our Surrender

The one thing that unites otherwise at-odds religious people is their need to hate-teh-ghey.

I bet there is a big overlap between these folk and the Putin-admirers. After all, Putin is a manly-man and not given to cozying up to teh ghey.

438 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:24:39am

There’s a slow-mo popcorn feast coming up: The battle between Peter Brimelow and his VDARE aligned white supremacists, and CPAC.

It’s fantasy-on-fantasy action, with the Whitists battleing the Godists.

439 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:26:12am
440 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:26:54am

re: #426 freetoken

My gut is telling me that so much of what we are seeing over this Crimea thing - from the actual parties on the ground in Crimea, to the Russians, to the American right wing and neo-conservative punditry - has much to do about male posturing and the need for conflict.

That’s right - humans, and particularly males - need conflict.

Testosterone does alter behavior, often leading to more aggressive behavior.

I guess I can chalk all this up to evolution, the evolution of sexual reproduction, and so forth, but that would probably diminish the moral weight of all that is happening.

Arguable theory, unless it becomes the argument for prohibiting women from the armed forces. Violence, aggression and conflict are avowed virtues in the warrior culture.

441 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:29:23am

Horrific. They’re going to use cadaver dogs to see if any bodies remain in bldg after fire.

442 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:32:11am

Oh my.

EBay is worst-run company I have ever seen: Carl Icahn

cnbc.com

“Activist investor Carl Icahn told CNBC on Wednesday that eBay has the worst corporate governance he’s ever seen, and that’s a symptom of how badly American companies are run.

“In a “Squawk Box” interview, Icahn acknowledged he likes to get involved in companies and shake things up. He said that while his critics say he’s just in it for the money, he believes he’s doing something good for America by unlocking more value for investors. He also said he thinks that even lawmakers in Washington are doing a better job running the country than corporate boards are doing running American companies.

“Ticking off a list of corporate disputes he’s been involved in, Icahn said he’s never seen a situation like eBay. The billionaire investor has been turning his ire on eBay—agitating the online marketplace for months about spinning off its PayPal platform from its Internet retail business.”

443 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:39:13am

re: #442 Justanotherhuman

Carl Icahn, professional shit-stirrer.

444 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:41:05am

re: #443 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Carl Icahn, professional shit-stirrer.

Oh yeah, he admits it.

445 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:42:26am

re: #443 Rev_Arthur_Belling

re: #444 Justanotherhuman

“Professional” is the keyword. He has never made a statement that isn’t part of a plan to monetize.

446 A Mom Anon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:44:17am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

That was wonderful, thanks for writing it. And thank you for sharing. I know, this isn’t a therapy session, but sometimes it helps to bounce things off the walls a little and get some feedback from people who aren’t as close as the ones you see every day. There are a lot of really smart people here, so you know you’ll get something with some brain power behind it. If you had told me 5 yrs ago that LGF would be the only online forum I participate in I would have fell out of my chair laughing. I’m glad this place changed and Charles lets us spill things and leave our shoes in the middle of the floor sometimes.

Our healthcare system, IMO doesn’t have enough trained professionals in mental health care to handle the numbers of people who need help. I think that may be a part of why doctors just shove meds at people with little follow up or recommendations for therapy and other things that have been shown to help (exercise, diet, sleep, etc). It’s hard to treat mental health issues, it’s not a short term thing. And so in come the meds and people think that’s a cure all. It’s not. It’s HARD WORK, every day, to get through and figure out what works for you individually. The medical community isn’t really built that way.

I just had a huge fight with someone yesterday who INSISTS I should be on some kind of medicine cocktail because she is. No. She just plowed over me, no respect at all for what I was saying, insisting I needed to keep going back to the doctor until I find some magic drug combo that will make me Happy. I had to spam block her on my phone to get her to stop. She’s now bad mouthing me to another friend that she’s close to and it’s turning into some big drama, which, yep, makes my anxiety flare up.

Which is why I’m often tempted to just hang out with my doggie and tell everyone else to stifle it.

447 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:45:40am

European Union freezes assets of 18 people held responsible of misappropriating state funds in Ukraine - @AP
end of alert

NATO Secretary-General Rasmussen to meet Ukraine’s Prime Minister at NATO headquarters Thursday - @BBCSteveR.
end of alert

448 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:46:23am

See, casinos are good for you:

Jackpot! Casinos linked to reduced risk of childhood obesity

SCIENCE!!

449 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:53:29am

re: #442 Justanotherhuman

Icahn had some sharp criticism of eBay board members a while back, saying their investments outside eBay are in potential competitors to eBay and PayPal. He singled out Marc Andreessen as one primary target for criticism.

As a former eBay user, both as a seller and a buyer, I can say the platform now sucks, too. Getting a hold of customer service is limited to phone calls to dog-knows-who, and the only payment system in place is PayPal. EBay used to be fun to use. Not so much now.

Icahn is right about spinning off PayPal. It makes more profit than the parent company, and is an entirely different animal. If it weren’t tied to eBay’s apron strings, PayPal could expand into other areas more easily.

450 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:54:58am
451 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:56:34am

re: #445 Decatur Deb

“Professional” is the keyword. He has never made a statement that isn’t part of a plan to monetize.

Failure to monetize websites caused the dot com bust?

The web has always been a commercial enterprise for capitalists but when people think it should be “free” is when it gets into trouble. It has no real market “value” when it’s free and not making money, unless it’s totally subsidized, either by the website owners or the govt.

452 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:57:36am

WTFITS

453 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:58:06am

re: #446 A Mom Anon

It’s HARD WORK, every day, to get through and figure out what works for you individually. The medical community isn’t really built that way.

Having suffered through a couple of bouts of clinical depression, it is a maddening process to try to find the right meds, even if they do work. And going to appointments and remembering to take the meds every day when you don’t want to leave the house or answer the phone or anything can be a challenge. For weeks/months on end. Our medical system is indeed set up for the “quick fix.”

The other thing that annoys me is that mental illness (depression in my case) isn’t like a leg injury or something where you expect compassion and empathy from those around you. I did research on stigma in college, and I’m well-read enough to know how people look at mental health issues. Unless they are very understanding people, you’re better off avoiding the “cheer up, it will get better” nostrums.

It took a lot before I even would talk to my PCP about it.

my 2 cents

454 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:03:03am

re: #453 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Having suffered through a couple of bouts of clinical depression, it is a maddening process to try to find the right meds, even if they do work. And going to appointments and remembering to take the meds every day when you don’t want to leave the house or answer the phone or anything can be a challenge. For weeks/months on end. Our medical system is indeed set up for the “quick fix.”

The other thing that annoys me is that mental illness (depression in my case) isn’t like a leg injury or something where you expect compassion and empathy from those around you. I did research on stigma in college, and I’m well-read enough to know how people look at mental health issues. Unless they are very understanding people, you’re better off avoiding the “cheer up, it will get better” nostrums.

It took a lot before I even would talk to my PCP about it.

my 2 cents

You’re absolutely correct. I got a lot of “Debbie Downer” remarks, how my “negativity” during my bout of depression while I was losing everything, from so-called friends, taught me a lot about attitudes others hold concerning even clinical depression. Not one iota of sympathy—they just distanced themselves forever. My family members were the ones who helped me hold it together, even with their own dysfunctions because they didn’t really care what others thought.

455 BongCrodny  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:09:33am

re: #448 freetoken

See, casinos are good for you:

Jackpot! Casinos linked to reduced risk of childhood obesity

SCIENCE!!

It’s hard to stay fat when mom and dad are putting the food money into slot machines.

But I’d bet if someone wanted to conduct a study, they’d find that parents’ meth addiction also reduces childhood obesity,

456 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:09:43am

OSCE to send military observers to Ukraine

Fifteen member states of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) have agreed to send military observers to Ukraine.

sbs.com.au

“Fifteen countries, including the United States and other countries in Europe and central Asia, will participate in this mission,” the envoy told Agence France-Presse on Wednesday.

“The diplomat gave no details on how many people would be involved in the mission, nor on when it would start or where in the former Soviet republic they would be deployed.

“The OSCE said Ukraine had made a request for the mission to operate from March 5-12.”

457 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:11:47am

The newer, kinder Klan:

FL man flying KKK flag assures community: ‘We don’t beat up on f*ggots or blacks’

[…]

Hayes claimed that the response to his flag has been overwhelmingly positive.

“Don’t get anybody throwing bottles on my lawn or anything like that,” he said. “They toot their horn. They stop. They wave. They take pictures.”

He also said that people have the wrong idea about how his beliefs might motivate his actions. The noose hanging in his front yard is indicative of nothing, because according to Hayes, the KKK does not condone violence.

[…]

Re-messaging at its finest.

458 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:13:52am

re: #457 freetoken

It’s always “Florida Man.”

459 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:15:50am

re: #458 Rev_Arthur_Belling

It’s always “Florida Man.”

The Land Evolution Forgot.
//

460 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:17:51am

re: #457 freetoken

The newer, kinder Klan:

FL man flying KKK flag assures community: ‘We don’t beat up on f*ggots or blacks’

Re-messaging at its finest.

We now live in an America where a klansman can stand there with a completely straight face and claim that the Klan is not about violence.

Your daily dose of meteor summoning:

Summon the Meteors

461 BongCrodny  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:19:17am

Wednesday morning sage advice:

462 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:19:25am

Good morning Lizards!

Maple syrup time in the northeast. Warming above freezing during the day and dropping back down at night. Just the thing to get the sap flowing.

463 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:21:42am

re: #451 Justanotherhuman

Failure to monetize websites caused the dot com bust?

The web has always been a commercial enterprise for capitalists but when people think it should be “free” is when it gets into trouble. It has no real market “value” when it’s free and not making money, unless it’s totally subsidized, either by the website owners or the govt.

Not especially talking about websites. During the first Obama campaign timeframe he was preaching green energy—natural gas. If he’s making a statement, he plans to buy or sell something at an ‘improved’ price.

464 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:22:19am

re: #460 GunstarGreen

We now live in an America where >a klansman can stand there with a completely straight face and claim that the Klan is not about violence.

Your daily dose of meteor summoning:

Summon the Meteors

Kinder, Kooler Klan.

465 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:25:13am

re: #463 Decatur Deb

Not especially talking about websites. During the first Obama campaign timeframe he was preaching green energy—natural gas. If he’s making a statement, he plans to buy or sell something at an ‘improved’ price.

Just about anytime you see a predator capitalist agitating for a business to split off things the odds are that they want a profitable part split off so that they can get a bigger share of that while screwing over the other shareholders.*

* - I have a couple good anecdotes of this from a small scale and personal standpoint. Not pretty, and basically showing a person following a “screw you, I want more” mindset.

466 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:25:44am
467 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:26:27am

re: #457 freetoken

The newer, kinder Klan:

FL man flying KKK flag assures community: ‘We don’t beat up on f*ggots or blacks’

Re-messaging at its finest.

I hear that Russia Today has made that man a job offer, since his impressive ability to tell obvious lies with a straight face is just what they look for in on-air talent.

468 Flounder  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:27:01am

re: #462 Feline Fearless Leader

Not quite yet here, but soon, I hope.

469 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:27:34am

re: #467 Dark_Falcon

Anyone who can pull off a Dead Parrot sketch and have someone in the media believe it’s real deserves an acting contract with somebody.

470 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:27:59am

re: #466 Pie-onist Overlord

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So Obamacare will reduce some abortions, single-payer will reduce more.

471 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:28:50am

re: #465 Feline Fearless Leader

Yes, Icahn was stirring up shit with Apple recently. Probably the most money in the bank of any tech co., and he was spitting because they wouldn’t buy back more stock. I can’t see that Icahn serves any useful purpose other than his own self-aggrandizement.

472 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:29:53am

re: #466 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

“You’ll give birth to this baby, damnit, whether you like it or not. But fucked if we’re paying a single dime towards that.”

This is the face of ‘pro-life’.

473 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:30:52am

When you’re too good, watch out:

Hollywood disaster movie sparks $2m fines - because trailer was too realistic

It’s just not smart to imitate the EAS.

474 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:31:34am

re: #472 GunstarGreen

They really should just call them “pro-uterus,” because once you’re outside the womb, you’re on your own.

475 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:31:52am
476 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:32:23am

re: #466 Pie-onist Overlord

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Politics 107: Shouting slogans is easy, trying to actually address underlying problems is hard. Much the reason that it is hard is that solutions that actually solve problems tend to not strictly conform to ideological precepts (resulting in charges of DINO or RINO being thrown) or cost more money than the people shouting slogans are really willing to spend.

477 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:33:11am

re: #474 Rev_Arthur_Belling

They really should just call them “pro-uterus,” because once you’re outside the womb, you’re on your own.

“Pro outside control of uterus” would be more accurate. It’s fairly obvious that neither the ultimate health of the woman or the fetus/baby is their main concern.

478 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:33:28am

re: #475 darthstar

Maybe that will keep them off all the other Sunday gabfests?

I really don’t get why these two get so much political oxygen. There are cooler heads in the Senate to discuss this stuff with.

479 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:34:02am

re: #476 Dark_Falcon

Politics 107: Shouting slogans is easy, trying to actually address underlying problems is hard. Much the reason that it is hard is that solutions that actually solve problems tend to not strictly conform to ideological precepts (resulting in charges of DINO or RINO being thrown) or cost more money than the people shouting slogans are really willing to spend.

And underlying solutions that work don’t fit in a Tweet.

480 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:34:23am

re: #475 darthstar

Ben & Ghazi Show.

481 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:35:06am

re: #478 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Maybe that will keep them off all the other Sunday gabfests?

I really don’t get why these two get so much political oxygen. There are cooler heads in the Senate to discuss this stuff with.

Predictable to get a good sound bite out of. Which apparently draws eyes and advertising dollars. Which is the ultimate goal of the program.

482 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:36:21am

A Bitcoin is selling for 666 dollars on the major (surviving) exchange.

483 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:36:46am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Woke up this morning to a news report from WPIX 11 with the screaming headline that Obamacare insurance disaster. The reporter goes on to tell the tale of a family who entered insurance hell.

Link to the video.

I was intrigued. What kind of hell are they talking about?

Well, the husband got a form of cancer requiring a bone marrow transplant, which he got on his old insurance, but it would have been prohibitively expensive to get that same insurance plan this year. So, they went on the Exchange and picked the same insurance company’s platinum plan, figuring that the doctors would be covered.

Except that they weren’t.

In fact, the insurance company covered the family’s oncologists only under a lesser silver plan (higher copays, lower premium).

This isn’t an Obamacare nightmare, but one that every person with a private insurance policy faces. Insurers are constantly playing games along with hospitals and doctors over what hospitals and doctors are included in-network.

It sucks that this particular family has to deal with crummy insurers at a difficult time like this, but it also pays to look at all the details of the plans - including the networks/insurance to make sure you’re getting the doctors you want, at a price you can handle.

Spoiler

Not an issue if there was single payer

484 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:38:26am

re: #478 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Maybe that will keep them off all the other Sunday gabfests?

I really don’t get why these two get so much political oxygen. There are cooler heads in the Senate to discuss this stuff with.

Because American News Media is not about dissemination of information. It’s about money. They are for-profit entities that do not exist to keep their audience informed. They exist to make money. They make money by selling eyeballs. They get eyeballs to sell by airing inflammatory bullshit.

Via Ed, over at GinAndTacos:

The next time you think the internet is improving journalism consider how it has evolved headlines to convey *less* information, taking us from the Hearst-era “Man Robs Bank, 3 Shot” to “Man Walks into a Bank…You Won’t Believe What Happens Next!”

485 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:39:22am

re: #446 A Mom Anon

That was wonderful, thanks for writing it. And thank you for sharing. I know, this isn’t a therapy session, but sometimes it helps to bounce things off the walls a little and get some feedback from people who aren’t as close as the ones you see every day. There are a lot of really smart people here, so you know you’ll get something with some brain power behind it. If you had told me 5 yrs ago that LGF would be the only online forum I participate in I would have fell out of my chair laughing. I’m glad this place changed and Charles lets us spill things and leave our shoes in the middle of the floor sometimes.

Our healthcare system, IMO doesn’t have enough trained professionals in mental health care to handle the numbers of people who need help. I think that may be a part of why doctors just shove meds at people with little follow up or recommendations for therapy and other things that have been shown to help (exercise, diet, sleep, etc). It’s hard to treat mental health issues, it’s not a short term thing. And so in come the meds and people think that’s a cure all. It’s not. It’s HARD WORK, every day, to get through and figure out what works for you individually. The medical community isn’t really built that way.

I just had a huge fight with someone yesterday who INSISTS I should be on some kind of medicine cocktail because she is. No. She just plowed over me, no respect at all for what I was saying, insisting I needed to keep going back to the doctor until I find some magic drug combo that will make me Happy. I had to spam block her on my phone to get her to stop. She’s now bad mouthing me to another friend that she’s close to and it’s turning into some big drama, which, yep, makes my anxiety flare up.

Which is why I’m often tempted to just hang out with my doggie and tell everyone else to stifle it.

One of the things that I think about the kind of “mental illness” we see in the US (the only place I can speak about) is that most of it is not caused by brain disease or injury, but merely by the stress of modern life, the inability to cope with all the “keeping up” we must do in a consumerist, material-based society. We all worry about money and how we’re going to pay the bills, unless we’re well off and financially comfortable. And the pros have named that “mental illness” to our detriment, not what it really is. When I was going through my hard time in the ’90s, one of the things that was not discussed (and which I was too zombiefied w/meds to insist on talking about to the male therapists to whom I was assigned) was my financial situation, my age and the menopause I was experiencing. In fact, I remember being so medicated it was extremely difficult to talk about much of anything, or to remember how I had arrived at that state.

I also apply that to behavior that is externally focused, not just to the ways we harm ourselves with alcohol, drugs, etc—the “self-medication” routes which many pursue, what we call “addictions”. When people turn their anger and depression outward to others, they exhibit very aggressive behavior. We find that happens most often in men, while women will generally turn it inward. I simply can’t imagine what it’s like to live in a milieu where people must constantly resort to criminal activity simply to keep alive. We call it crime, I call most of it “neglect” of the lower classes who scramble every day to survive.

Be that as it may, we all struggle to make the most of our lives, to live in decent places, to have well-paying jobs, an education, all of the things that can provide a comfortable life. When those things are denied to us, after we have experienced even a modicum of them, we see what we’ve struggled for, worked for, often swirling down the drain, most of the time through no fault of our own but from the perceptions of others, from a bad economy, etc—outside influences. It really is depressing. But to me, it’s not mental illness. It’s the kind of hot rat race we live in, and we can either fight it, or give in to it. I find fighting it much saner than turning its flawed existence and blame inward. To me, it’s much better to help others in whatever way we can and to get some joy from that than to compete in a pressure cooker that requires a sacrifice of one’s self totally. I don’t mind giving up “things” to preserve self.

486 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:39:22am

re: #474 Rev_Arthur_Belling

They really should just call them “pro-uterus,” because once you’re outside the womb, you’re on your own.

Pro-fetus.

487 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:39:37am

re: #478 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Maybe that will keep them off all the other Sunday gabfests?

I really don’t get why these two get so much political oxygen. There are cooler heads in the Senate to discuss this stuff with.

Few of whom are as active in foreign policy matters. McCain and Graham have both spent years establishing themselves as the GOP ‘go to guys’ when it comes to foreign military crises.

Moreover, like most media outlets CNN likes to do some backbiting of the president. This allows them to stir up ‘controversy’, thus gaining CNN more viewers and the ability to sell its commercial spots at a higher rate.

488 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:39:39am

re: #483 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Woke up this morning to a news report from WPIX 11 with the screaming headline that Obamacare insurance disaster. The reporter goes on to tell the tale of a family who entered insurance hell.

Link to the video.

I was intrigued. What kind of hell are they talking about?

Well, the husband got a form of cancer requiring a bone marrow transplant, which he got on his old insurance, but it would have been prohibitively expensive to get that same insurance plan this year. So, they went on the Exchange and picked the same insurance company’s platinum plan, figuring that the doctors would be covered.

Except that they weren’t.

In fact, the insurance company covered the family’s oncologists only under a lesser silver plan (higher copays, lower premium).

This isn’t an Obamacare nightmare, but one that every person with a private insurance policy faces. Insurers are constantly playing games along with hospitals and doctors over what hospitals and doctors are included in-network.

It sucks that this particular family has to deal with crummy insurers at a difficult time like this, but it also pays to look at all the details of the plans - including the networks/insurance to make sure you’re getting the doctors you want, at a price you can handle.

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Shame y’all only got 1-2 oncologists in NYC. We’ve got several here in Bumfuck AL.

489 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:41:59am

re: #486 Pie-onist Overlord

Pro-fetus.

Not even that. They oppose healthcare and related programs that would help with pre-natal care.

490 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:43:57am

re: #483 lawhawk

This is the same stupidity that the Dumbest Man On The Internet tried, given his health problems.

Unwilling to own up to the fact that their insurance companies already failed them, somehow it is now all the ACA’s fault.

It has always been the case that those who go out shopping for health insurance as individuals had to worry about exactly which payment to buy, and if the company would even sell it to them.

Now, since the ACA mandates that insurance companies have to sell, all of a sudden it is the ACA’s fault when the wrong plan is picked.

491 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:44:35am

re: #452 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

You hate the Koch Bros? The Koch Bros are Jewish. You are an anti Semite. High school logic

Aha! Now we have evidence of yet another area of RWNJ logic failure right here.

One can certainly hate the Koch Brothers for being plutocratic politics-twisting pricks. Doesn’t matter if they’re Jewish, gay, Methodist, hermaphrodites. You can dislike them for their actions.

However, from the RWNJ perspective, actions don’t mean anything, just your nature.

How their brains work:
A Jew cuts you off in traffic? You flip him off because he’s Jewish.
A gay person burns down your house? You call the police because she’s gay.
A Methodist punches you in the junk/taco? You hit them back because they’re Methodist.
A hermaphrodite suggests that maybe your proposed junk-protection bill doesn’t protect tacos or other plumbing enough? You hate them because they’re a filthy hermaphrodite.

Bonus: Somehow, I think this is connected to or indicative of the evangelical stress on faith over works, as well as a low-functioning sense of nuance.

492 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:46:12am

MORON:

493 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:46:19am

Israel caught the Iranians/Syrians trying to smuggle missiles into Gaza via the Red Sea.

The missiles were based on Iranian designs and built in Syria. They were intended for Hamas in Gaza. It would appear that the smugglers were going to offload the shipment in the Sinai and ship them overland and then through the smuggling tunnels between Sinai and Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged cargo vessel Klos C was boarded in international waters without resistance from its 17-strong crew in a “complex, covert operation”, military spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Peter Lerner told reporters.

Lerner said dozens of M302 rockets were found aboard the Klos C, a weapon which could have struck deep into Israel from Gaza and would have significantly enhanced the firepower of the Palestinian enclave’s Hamas rulers and other armed factions.

“The M302 in its most advanced model can strike over 100 miles, and if they would have reached Gaza, ultimately that would have meant millions of Israelis under threat,” he said.

Hamas dismissed the Israeli announcement as a “silly joke”.

“This is a new Israeli lie aimed to justify and prolong the blockade of Gaza,” said Taher Al-Nono, an advisor of Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh.

There was no immediate comment from Iran or Syria.

Military footage showed the Israeli navy chief, Admiral Ram Rothberg, inspecting a rocket on the floor of a ship hold, with cement bags labeled “Made in Iran” in English next to it.

Lerner said the rockets were flown from Syria to Iran, from where they were shipped first to Iraq and then towards Sudan. Had they reached the African coast, they would have probably been smuggled overland through Egypt to Gaza, he said.

494 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:46:26am
495 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:48:01am

re: #488 Decatur Deb

I get that the family wanted to keep the same oncologists who performed the procedures and have provided the care to date. Doesn’t matter if there are other hospitals and doctors in the area. You want continuity of care.

But the insurance companies play games like this all the time and it doesn’t matter whether it was a policy via an exchange or a privately obtained policy via an employer.

496 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:48:25am

HURR HURR!!!!!!

497 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:48:27am

Hoping this is just an aberration. If true, two LA gangsters (one of which had been kicked out of the US, an Armenian citizen) have turned up in Syria fighting on the side of the Government and Hez. Creepy development. And a illustrative testament to one of the biggest sources of criminal/gun violence in the US. For all that we have too many behind bars, it’s the right place for active gang members from violent gangs. (Not to be confused with the posers, the tagging crews etc)

Paged

498 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:48:31am

re: #491 chadu

Sounds like an overdependence on labels in a feeble attempt to reduce one’s life to simple black/white decisions.

499 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:49:05am

re: #494 darthstar

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srsly. Wanna know how to soundly defeat the GOP in 2014 and 2016?

Have Obama give a presser wherein he says “I sincerely hope that all of the current Republican congresspeople get re-elected.”

They’ll spend the next several months screeching about how imperative it is that none of them do.

500 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:49:34am

re: #457 freetoken

The newer, kinder Klan:

FL man flying KKK flag assures community: ‘We don’t beat up on f*ggots or blacks’

The noose hanging in his front yard is indicative of nothing,

Re-messaging at its finest.

What you’d realize, if you weren’t a st00pid libtard, is that threatening actions/displays or suggestions of violence aren’t threatening or suggestive. I mean, come on, that’s just stupid.

Go back to Harvard, st00pid college boy!

//////////ican’teven

501 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:51:24am

Well, this may bristle:

Study finds genetic link between height and IQ

A team of researchers at Edinburgh University in Scotland has found a correlation between genes associated with height and those associated with intelligence. In their paper published in the journal Behavior Genetics, the group describes how they studied the DNA of 6,815 unrelated people and discovered what they describe as a direct correlation between height and intelligence—taller people are smarter, they say.

[…]

Study relies on twins and their parents to understand height-IQ connection

The fact that taller people also tend to be slightly smarter is due in roughly equal parts to two phenomena—the same genes affect both traits and taller people are more likely than average to mate with smarter people and vice versa—according to a study led by the University of Colorado Boulder.


The study did not find that environmental factors contributed to the connection between being taller and being smarter, both traits that people tend to find attractive.

The modest correlation between height and IQ has been documented in multiple studies stretching back to the 1970s. But the reasons for the relationship between the two traits has not been well understood.

[…]

The articles reference this work:

Common Genetic Variants Explain the Majority of the Correlation Between Height and Intelligence: The Generation Scotland Study

502 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:51:48am

re: #470 Decatur Deb

So Obamacare will reduce some abortions, single-payer will reduce more.

503 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:52:03am

re: #495 lawhawk

I get that the family wanted to keep the same oncologists who performed the procedures and have provided the care to date. Doesn’t matter if there are other hospitals and doctors in the area. You want continuity of care.

But the insurance companies play games like this all the time and it doesn’t matter whether it was a policy via an exchange or a privately obtained policy via an employer.

I’ve lived too many places and under too many different healthcare systems to buy into ‘continuity of care’. More important is ‘continuity of records’ and (above all) ‘continuity of payment’. What I really want is the best doctor for the problem, and almost no one is qualified to make that assessment.

504 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:52:11am

re: #499 GunstarGreen

Obama should show up on whatever Sunday show Lindsey Graham is on just to fuck with him. “Sorry for dropping in, but I just want all your viewers to know how much I value Lindsey’s service and want him to win his primary.”

505 A Mom Anon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:52:12am

Dog walkies. BBL.

506 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:52:55am

re: #505 A Mom Anon

Dog walkies. BBL.

Me too…after I make a cuppa tea for my wife.

507 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:53:57am

Must pack up the laptop and go help ACA applicants find the wrong healthcare provider. BBL.

508 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:54:49am

re: #497 Political Atheist

For all that we have too many behind bars, it’s the right place for active gang members from violent gangs.

Many active gang members from violent gangs are teenagers.

Being behind bars would be a good place for them, or the adult gangsters, to be if it actually rehabilitated them. But we gave up on that a long time ago.

509 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:54:59am

re: #475 darthstar

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Seriously, I am starting to think that if McCain, Graham, Boehner, Cantor, or Ryan ever got the big chair, they’d look a heckuva lot like GWB… and that’s not good.

Kind of a dithering, feckless glad-hander being run by very cynical, hypocritical, clueless, and nasty people.

510 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:55:08am

The hamsters ate that Springer link, so I changed it to a tinyurl.

511 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:57:13am

re: #501 freetoken

Could you link to the actual studies instead of the journalistic interpretation of them? Science journalism is complete shit.

512 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:57:26am

re: #503 Decatur Deb

I’ve known too many people with various forms of cancer that will go from doctor to doctor, until they find one that they’re comfortable with, and then stick with them for the duration of their care. If you’re in the middle of a treatment regime like this person was, you don’t want to have to switch hospitals or providers in the middle.

Some of that is confirmation bias - they’re caring for you at your time of need, maybe they have good bedside manner, maybe the nurses are particularly attentive and caring, etc., so you want to keep going to the same facility even though another facility will provide the same or even better care. The patient just doesn’t want to find out and change their routine, so they stick with what they know.

There’s probably a study or 100 talking about this kind of phenomenon in health care treatment/choices.

513 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:58:18am

re: #484 GunstarGreen

The next time you think the internet is improving journalism consider how it has evolved headlines to convey *less* information, taking us from the Hearst-era “Man Robs Bank, 3 Shot” to “Man Walks into a Bank…You Won’t Believe What Happens Next!”

So we’ve dropped from Yellow Journalism to Orange Journalism, or have we actually hit Red or Infrared yet?

(Infrared might work for the analogy — majority of the information in the second headline is not visible.)

514 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:58:48am

HURR HURR!!!!

515 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:59:54am

re: #513 chadu

So we’ve dropped from Yellow Journalism to Orange Journalism, or have we actually hit Red or Infrared yet?

(Infrared might work for the analogy — majority of the information in the second headline is not visible.)

Obey the Computer. Keep your laser handy!
//

516 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:01:21am

Morning palate cleanser: Niagara Falls frozen over at night. For second time this winter, the falls have nearly frozen over, lending a particularly eerie and beautiful light display.

517 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:01:29am

As long as the sociological conditions exist for the formations of gangs, new gang members will be recruited or emerge, no matter how many you lock up.

518 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:01:38am

re: #498 Feline Fearless Leader

Sounds like an overdependence on labels in a feeble attempt to reduce one’s life to simple black/white decisions.

Indeed, but so much so that the label overwhelms the actions performed.

That’s more than overdependence… that’s cognitive error stemming from the overdependence.

519 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:07am

I walked outside this morning, and it smelled different. It’s hard to describe, but it’s a very subtle change from yesterday. While yesterday was frozen, this morning I could smell the earth waking up. I wait for this day every year, for the very first stirrings of Spring. It always starts with that change in the air.

Sorry if I sound too cosmic, but catching that earth smell for the first time always gladdens me. These old bones are ready for Winter to be done.

520 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:22am

re: #493 lawhawk

Israel caught the Iranians/Syrians trying to smuggle missiles into Gaza via the Red Sea.

The missiles were based on Iranian designs and built in Syria. They were intended for Hamas in Gaza. It would appear that the smugglers were going to offload the shipment in the Sinai and ship them overland and then through the smuggling tunnels between Sinai and Gaza.

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Good that they found those rockets. Those things can being seriously nasty. especially if you fired enough short-range rockets to confuse Iron Dome regarding which rockets were the biggest threat.

521 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:42am

So the GOP tells Obama he should freeze Russian assets, and now Russia’s threatening to do the same to us?

Thanks for your help in international relations, Republicans! You’re doing a heckuva job!

CNN:

Russia has been warned that possible sanctions will be on the agenda when European Union leaders meet Thursday in Brussels, Belgium, if no progress is made in ending the high-stakes showdown.

But such measures may not only hurt Russia. In a tit-for-tat move, Russian lawmakers are drafting a law that would allow Russia to confiscate assets belonging to U.S. and European companies if sanctions are slapped on Moscow, Russian state media reported.

522 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:46am

re: #511 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Could you link to the actual studies instead of the journalistic interpretation of them? Science journalism is complete shit.

You didn’t notice that the last link was to the Springer journal?

523 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:52am

re: #514 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!

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lolwut? Myths and… like, really?

There’s not much that needs to be understood RE: Outsourcing. Your job gets shipped over to Timbuktu because a person in Timbuktu will do (a somewhat shittier version of) your job for a couple of bucks a week, which you can’t because you live in a first-world country with first-world cost of living. You get fucked, the company saves money, and that money goes directly into the pocket of the first executive in the chain as a bonus for their ‘stellar performance in saving the company money’.

524 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:04:05am
525 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:04:32am

I’ll take careless and obtuse.

526 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:05:04am

re: #504 darthstar

Obama should show up on whatever Sunday show Lindsey Graham is on just to fuck with him. “Sorry for dropping in, but I just want all your viewers to know how much I value Lindsey’s service and want him to win his primary.”

I think the president would rather Graham actually won, though, seeing some teabag-whirling nutcase win.

527 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:05:05am

re: #514 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!

I bet if these folks had their jobs outsourced, they’d blame Obama.

What I love* about RWNJs is when they are directly hurt by the effects of their own policies and philosophies, they immediately blame the other guy.

* Not.

528 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:05:24am

re: #521 darthstar

So the GOP tells Obama he should freeze Russian assets, and now Russia’s threatening to do the same to us?

Thanks for your help in international relations, Republicans! You’re doing a heckuva job!

CNN:

The quote was allowing the Russian side to confiscate, which is a different thing than “freezing” them. How socialist of the Russians to nationalize private assets. Putin showing his libertarian capitalist side.
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529 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:06:23am

re: #501 freetoken

Well, this may bristle:

Study finds genetic link between height and IQ

Study relies on twins and their parents to understand height-IQ connection

The articles reference this work:

Common Genetic Variants Explain the Majority of the Correlation Between Height and Intelligence: The Generation Scotland Study

Bullshit study. Albert Einstein was only 5’9” (and that might have been a stretch) Stephen Hawking is 5’7”. I’m 5’-1/2” tall and tested in HS at 142. My sons tested at 128 and 118 and both were 5’7”. You’ll find a lot of people in history who, if their IQ could have been tested, were short people with high IQs. If IQ tests for cognitive ability, how does height determine whether or not one has more than another?

Tall people are also perceived to be more attractive, as well. The thing is, taller people probably, throughout their lives, and because of those kinds of perceptions, are treated better, offered more opportunities, etc. It doesn’t mean they’re particularly more intelligent—they may just receive more privileges, and twins (the subject of this particular study) may fall into that category.

530 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:06:58am

re: #526 Dark_Falcon

I think the president would rather Graham actually won, though, seeing some teabag-whirling nutcase win.

The one bit of recent news that warmed the cold, dead husk of my heart was hearing, on das radio during this morning’s commute, that TP primary challengers nigh-universally FAIL’T in Texas, of all places.

531 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:06:59am

re: #515 Feline Fearless Leader

Obey the Computer. Keep your laser handy!
//

How do you know that Infrared is lower frequency than Yellow, Citizen?

Please report to the nearest Debriefing/Detraitorizing Booth.

The Computer is your friend.

532 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:07:26am

re: #526 Dark_Falcon

I think the president would rather Graham actually won, though, seeing some teabag-whirling nutcase win.

Your mainstream party is so awful that it really doesn’t matter. They proved that with the shutdown and their repeated attempts to destroy the credit of the US by not paying our debts.

It really doesn’t matter if it’s what you consider a ‘sane’ Republican, your party has embraced Ayn Rand completely insane economics and Creationist anti-science positions.

533 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:07:42am

re: #519 makeitstop

I walked outside this morning, and it smelled different. It’s hard to describe, but it’s a very subtle change from yesterday. While yesterday was frozen, this morning I could smell the earth waking up. I wait for this day every year, for the very first stirrings of Spring. It always starts with that change in the air.

Sorry if I sound too cosmic, but catching that earth smell for the first time always gladdens me. These old bones are ready for Winter to be done.

Daylight savings time starts this coming Sunday…

534 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:08:12am

re: #527 chadu

I bet if these folks had their jobs outsourced, they’d blame Obama.

What I love* about RWNJs is when they are directly hurt by the effects of their own policies and philosophies, they immediately blame the other guy.

* Not.

The auto industry was absolutely up shit’s creek from 2002-2009, thanks to GWB policies. It took the GM bailout to bring jobs back to Detroit.

535 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:08:19am

re: #521 darthstar

So the GOP tells Obama he should freeze Russian assets, and now Russia’s threatening to do the same to us?

Thanks for your help in international relations, Republicans! You’re doing a heckuva job!

CNN:

Fine, let’em do that! If the sanctions triggers get pulled, Russia will be hurt a lot worse than we will be. We should ignore Putin’s threat and proceed as planned.

If you want to cure a type of cancer, you have to kill a few white rats.

536 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:08:50am

re: #529 Justanotherhuman

Bullshit study. Albert Einstein was only 5’9” (and that might have been a stretch) Stephen Hawking is 5’7”. I’m 5’-1/2” tall and tested in HS at 142. My sons tested at 128 and 118 and both were 5’7”. You’ll find a lot of people in history who, if their IQ could have been tested, were short people with high IQs. If IQ tests for cognitive ability, how does height determine whether or not one has more than another?

Tall people are also perceived to be more attractive, as well. The thing is, taller people probably, throughout their lives, and because of those kinds of perceptions, are treated better, offered more opportunities, etc. It doesn’t mean they’re particularly more intelligent—they may just receive more privileges, and twins (the subject of this particular study) may fall into that category.

Don’t they already have a correlation between height and proper nutrition during natal and childhood? Given that, that there would be a slight mental improvement (or at least a slightly higher potential) should not be surprising.

537 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:12am

Linsey Graham, plagued with Benghazitis, double-downed, then triple-downed, then mortgaged his home and went all-in.

It started with Benghazi. When you kill Americans and nobody pays a price, you invite this type of aggression. #Ukraine
— Lindsey Graham (@GrahamBlog) March 4, 2014

Putin basically came to the conclusion after Benghazi, Syria, Egypt - everything Obama has been engaged in - he’s a weak indecisive leader.
— Lindsey Graham (@GrahamBlog) March 4, 2014

Yes, he is an asshole.

538 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:35am

re: #493 lawhawk

Israel caught the Iranians/Syrians trying to smuggle missiles into Gaza via the Red Sea.

The missiles were based on Iranian designs and built in Syria. They were intended for Hamas in Gaza. It would appear that the smugglers were going to offload the shipment in the Sinai and ship them overland and then through the smuggling tunnels between Sinai and Gaza.

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It’s unfortunate that disrupting Russian client states like Iran and Syria isn’t being discussed among our options for dealing with the Ukraine situation.

539 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:10:04am

re: #523 GunstarGreen

I need more “that’s different because shut up” icons.

Weird that I’ve been using that one so much, along with whoever’s using the summon the meteors.

I long for the old days of history (last month) when this was “all the updings” as far as the eye could see…

Where are the Snowdens updings of yesterday?

540 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:10:35am

re: #529 Justanotherhuman

Bullshit study. Albert Einstein was only 5’9” (and that might have been a stretch) Stephen Hawking is 5’7”. I’m 5’-1/2” tall and tested in HS at 142. My sons tested at 128 and 118 and both were 5’7”. You’ll find a lot of people in history who, if their IQ could have been tested, were short people with high IQs.

That’s not how this works. Counterexamples don’t disprove something. You can’t say that cigarettes don’t cause cancer because you know a 92 year old chain-smoker who doesn’t have cancer.

The study, now that I’ve read it, is a very modest one with a very modest conclusion, with a small correlation between genetic height and observed intelligence. Observing intelligence is problematic as hell, and the study self-assesses as problematic because there has been such variation found between various studies on this same subject.

It is a very modest study that doesn’t claim to be breaking strong new ground, and its main conclusion is that lack of height can be associated with some systemic problems that would also impact intelligence. The study is not saying the taller you are the smarter you are.

Science journalism fucking sucks.

541 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:11:10am

re: #524 darthstar

“Snowden honored his oath”???

BY DEFINITION he did not.

Jebus Baby Buddha on a pogo stick.

542 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:11:28am

re: #535 Dark_Falcon

Fine, let’em do that! If the sanctions triggers get pulled, Russia will be hurt a lot worse than we will be. We should ignore Putin’s threat and proceed as planned.

If you want to cure a type of cancer, you have to kill a few white rats.

It’s an economic Cold War. A lot of white rats work here in the US as well. Or do you want unemployment to spike up again?

543 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:13:23am

re: #534 Pie-onist Overlord

The auto industry was absolutely up shit’s creek from 2002-2009, thanks to GWB policies. It took the GM bailout to bring jobs back to Detroit.

Thank FSM that Time Lord Ronald Reagan did that, instead of some blackity-black Democratic Kenyan Muslim!

544 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:14:06am
545 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:14:33am

re: #541 chadu

“Snowden honored his oath”???

BY DEFINITION he did not.

Jebus Baby Buddha on a pogo stick.

His Oath To Teh Dudebros.

On my honor
I will try
To enrich myself
At every opportunity
And fuck everyone else
Except for me.

546 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:15:43am

re: #539 chadu

I am the one bringing you your daily dose of meteor summoning.

Our reign has gone on long enough.

547 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:16:15am

BBL, Lizardim.

Keep the blog fires burning (or, for warmer weather living peeps, the AC breezing).

548 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:17:01am

re: #533 Justanotherhuman

Daylight savings time starts this coming Sunday…

Yep. Very excited about that. I seem to function better with more sunlight! :)

We bought an LED SAD light in November, and that seems to have helped me avoid the winter doldrums. I’m looking forward to the day I can pack it away for a while.

549 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:18:33am

re: #544 darthstar

Just sneaked a peak at Lindsey Graham’s crossword puzzle pic.twitter.com/fgGngueuh9
— Will McAvoy (@WillMcAvoyACN) March 4, 2014

Poor little fella and his chronic Benghazitis. Stand together and we can find a cure.

550 Flounder  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:21:28am

Farmer gets gored by Bison on Grumpy Buffalo Farm, who woulda thought?

551 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:22:24am

re: #536 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t they already have a correlation between height and proper nutrition during natal and childhood? Given that, that there would be a slight mental improvement (or at least a slightly higher potential) should not be surprising.

The entire human race is taller than it was even 100 yrs ago, due to better health care and nutrition. As the human race, we’re also a lot more knowledgeable and informed (which isn’t intelligence), we live longer, and we also seem to be more attractive or “prettier” (even without tons of makeup). That doesn’t necessarily translate to an increase in cognition, which is the ability to think, reason and problem solve. There have always been variables in height and weight among people.

I’ve known some really stupid tall people, too.

552 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:23:36am

re: #550 Flounder

Farmer gets gored by Bison on Grumpy Buffalo Farm, who woulda thought?

Bison are not domestic livestock. They can be tamed, but their wild side is never far below the surface.

553 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:25:46am

Because all of life must be a horse race in which the winner does so by a nose, CNN creates this wire story:

Putin vs. Obama: Facing off over facts in Ukraine

It’s a sort of he-said she-said approach.

554 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:26:45am

re: #551 Justanotherhuman

The entire human race is taller than it was even 100 yrs ago, due to better health care and nutrition. As the human race, we’re also a lot more knowledgeable and informed (which isn’t intelligence), we live longer, and we also seem to be more attractive or “prettier” (even without tons of makeup). That doesn’t necessarily translate to an increase in cognition, which is the ability to think, reason and problem solve. There have always been variables in height and weight among people.

I’ve known some really stupid tall people, too.

True. But there would/should be a reduction in cases of reduced cognitive function due to poor nutrition and health care.

555 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:29:54am

re: #540 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That’s not how this works. Counterexamples don’t disprove something. You can’t say that cigarettes don’t cause cancer because you know a 92 year old chain-smoker who doesn’t have cancer.

The study, now that I’ve read it, is a very modest one with a very modest conclusion, with a small correlation between genetic height and observed intelligence. Observing intelligence is problematic as hell, and the study self-assesses as problematic because there has been such variation found between various studies on this same subject.

It is a very modest study that doesn’t claim to be breaking strong new ground, and its main conclusion is that lack of height can be associated with some systemic problems that would also impact intelligence. The study is not saying the taller you are the smarter you are.

Science journalism fucking sucks.

No, but it’s being reported as some kind of strong truth. I know anecdotal information doesn’t measure up, but I don’t think this “study” does, either. Genes determinants aren’t everything about how intelligent a person might be, either, but this reporting wants to push that aspect.

It’s pretty sensationalist, at the least.

556 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:30:22am

ALL YOU SHORTOPHOBICS, YOU SUCK.

I SPIT IN YOUR BELLY BUTTON.

557 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:31:23am

re: #553 freetoken

Because all of life must be a horse race in which the winner does so by a nose, CNN creates this wire story:

Putin vs. Obama: Facing off over facts in Ukraine

It’s a sort of he-said she-said approach.

In a horserace Putin rides a stallion while Obama rides a gelding! Hurr Hurr Hurr!

558 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:31:51am

re: #555 Justanotherhuman

No, but it’s being reported as some kind of strong truth.

Yes, science journalism sucks. The proper response to this is not to use unscientific anecdotal data to counteract the shitty reporting and hype.

559 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:32:52am

re: #556 Pie-onist Overlord

ALL YOU SHORTOPHOBICS, YOU SUCK.

I SPIT IN YOUR BELLY BUTTON.

You know who else was short??? Hitler, that’s who.

560 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:34:33am

re: #540 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The study, now that I’ve read it, is a very modest one with a very modest conclusion, with a small correlation between genetic height and observed intelligence.

Which pretty much summarizes all research wrt “IQ” and genetics.

Generally speaking, what is found is that there are correlations, strong to weak, for small differences in “IQ”.


The current big effort at BGI to sequence the genome of Chinese looking for “intelligence” genes will, I propose, pretty much end in failure. Yes, there are causes genetically for a wide range of human attributes, and that would include “intelligence”, but we are all so much alike, genetically, that all we find are small differences when looking at an aggregate trait, which “intelligence” certainly is.

561 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:37:56am

Another asshole eruption in the Alabama state legislature, but this time the asshole is a Democrat:

An Alabama Democrat representative has said that white people would force their child to have an abortion if the father was black.

Rep. Alvin Holmes made the comments during a debate on a bill in the Alabama state house which would see the state implement the toughest abortion laws in the U.S.

Targeting Republican lawmakers, Holmes claimed that ‘99 per cent’ of white representatives who are against abortion would change their mind ‘if their daughter got pregnant by a black man’.

SNIP

A recording of his speech, published by Birmingham News, also includes Rep Holmes turning to an unnamed white female representative asking her if she would ‘allow’ her child to have a mixed-race baby.

When the woman’s reply is positive, he retorts: ‘Well, I need to commend you then. There’s not one in 100,000 that would do that.’

To be clear, the Alabama anti-abortion bill is a stupid, counterproductive piece of DERPery, but Alvin Holmes is still an asshole for saying what he said while opposing it.

562 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:39:41am

RWNJ’s are all seething about Lois Lerner invoking the 5A like it’s not part of the Constitution or anything.

The only Constitution they know about is the 2A, there is nothing else.

563 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:40:48am

Also: “Smidgen” is a silly word.

564 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:43:26am

re: #554 Feline Fearless Leader

True. But there would/should be a reduction in cases of reduced cognitive function due to poor nutrition and health care.

Both of these were factors in my childhood. In fact, most days in HS I went w/o lunch because I had no money. You have to remember that it was in the ’50s, as well. I could not “compete” with a quite a few HS kids today, I suspect, but that’s not saying that I might not be as intelligent as they are; simply not as educated at the same level. IQ does tend to slant toward your learned body of knowledge.

Also, if you’re going to IQ test people who have little education beyond HS and compare with those holding higher degrees, you are going to find differences as well, even allowing for age and tests geared toward particular sub-groups, differences will appear all along the spectra.

565 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:44:00am

I must have been asleep, but why are more IRS hearings being held? What new bullshit is Issa stirring up?

566 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:44:17am

Getting back to DWTS, The Hollywood Reporter jumps on the age thing:

‘Dancing With the Stars’: ABC’s Aging Reality Show Tries to Skew Younger With Changes

It’s pretty clear the changes ABC are making have to do with age targets for audiences.

The problem with grey-haired people is that they don’t buy many things as impulsively as youngsters. Unless a viewer can be manipulated into buying a new set of $200 sneakers even if their current closet is full, well, then, that viewer isn’t so desirable.

Which of course is bad for advertisers, and thus bad for business.

And well all know, what’s good for business is good for America.

ABC harrumphs about the musicians’ union crying about the cut of Harold Wheeler’s band, but what ABC doesn’t own is that Wheeler had 18 musicians, on every show, and that added up to too much. His replacement Chew may at times have many musicians, but he will probably, most of the time, make do with less.


Ray Chew may be a very good musician, but when I look at his Youtube channel I get sort of an eye-roll. I’m pretty sure ABC chose him more for his appeal to target audiences than anything else, e.g.:

Youtube Video

567 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:44:24am

re: #561 Dark_Falcon

Definitely not the right way to go about making his case.

Then again, it is Alabama. They’re not exactly known for their smarts, no matter which party they file for.

568 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:47:59am

re: #563 Pie-onist Overlord

Also: “Smidgen” is a silly word.

But it rhymes with pigeon, and that is saying something.

It also rhymes with pidgin, which gives Smidgen a double star.

Would a pigeon’s pidgin include “smidgen”?

569 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:48:28am

re: #565 Dr. Matt

I must have been asleep, but why are more IRS hearings being held? What new bullshit is Issa stirring up?

Answered your own question. Simply restirring the BS, and hoping to get Lerner into a perjury trap, which is why she took the 5th the last time, and continues to assert the same today.

Rep. Cummings went postal on Issa after he adjourned the hearing (and turned off Cummings’ microphone).

570 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:50:41am

re: #568 freetoken

But it rhymes with pigeon, and that is saying something.

It also rhymes with pidgin, which gives Smidgen a double star.

Would a pigeon’s pidgin include “smidgen”?

No, but the pigeon might think you were ‘coo-coo’ for asking.

571 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:52:00am


That’s a huge swing in just a short period of time.

572 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:53:32am

Additional perspective on what Russian nationalism can translate into for some ethnic minorities. In this case it was the Crimean Tartars, who in 1944 were accused by Stalin of being Nazi collaborators and forcibly deported by the hundreds of thousands.

They were transported to Central Asia by cattle car, with tens of thousands of men, women and children dying, some along the way and others shortly after arrival due to malnutrition or disease. In 1967 the (then) USSR admitted the charges were false.

NPR: As Russians Return, Crimean Tatars Fear Repeat Of History
Transcript here

MP3 Audio


Additional info available at:

State Defense Committee Decree No. 5859ss, “On the Crimean Tartars”
Stalin’s official May 1944 accusations & orders for deportation
United States Library of Congress

Surgun: Deportation of Crimean Tatars (18 May 1944)
Reports, documents and articles from various sources
International Committee for Crimea

Sürgün: The Crimean Tatars’ deportation and exile
Case study, also available as PDF
Online Encyclopedia of Mass Violence

573 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:57:31am

re: #569 lawhawk

574 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:57:39am

re: #569 lawhawk

Answered your own question. Simply restirring the BS, and hoping to get Lerner into a perjury trap, which is why she took the 5th the last time, and continues to assert the same today.

Rep. Cummings went postal on Issa after he adjourned the hearing (and turned off Cummings’ microphone).

Good. I hope she continues to exercise the 5th. Hopefully the Issa butthurt has reached 11.

575 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:01:01am

In Midst of Ukraine Crisis Russian President Vladimir Putin Takes Time to Remember Hugo Chávez

Despite being embroiled in one of biggest political crises in the last decade, Russian President Vladimir Putin has taken time out of his busy schedule waging war on small countries and minority groups to remember Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez. The Russian President (or is it Prime Minister? or President? or Tsar? It’s hard to keep up) sent a letter to the Venezuelan government in which he called Chávez’ death “nefarious” and remembered his “personal charm.”

577 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:06:19am

re: #576 Dr. Matt

Looks like the Koch brothers sent out a memo to the GOP last night

Paul Ryan stuns CNN host: Keystone pipeline will solve Russia’s Ukraine invasion

Fox Uses Ukraine Crisis In “Absurd” Push For Keystone XL Pipeline

Lolwhut.

578 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:06:21am

re: #573 lawhawk

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Issa should just give her immunity for anything she admits to her testimony and then pet her in the witness chair. Then she’d have to answer. And what is a ‘perjury trap’ anyways?

579 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:07:00am

re: #559 Dr. Matt

You know who else was short??? Hitler, that’s who.

Yes, at the back of my mind when I read about that study was “eugenics” but I didn’t want to go all Godwin on it, either. IQ is pretty meaningless when you’re pure evil.

580 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:07:17am

re: #575 Killgore Trout

In Midst of Ukraine Crisis Russian President Vladimir Putin Takes Time to Remember Hugo Chávez

I believe magicians call this “misdirection”.

581 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:07:48am

re: #576 Dr. Matt

Looks like the Koch brothers sent out a memo to the GOP last night

Paul Ryan stuns CNN host: Keystone pipeline will solve Russia’s Ukraine invasion

Fox Uses Ukraine Crisis In “Absurd” Push For Keystone XL Pipeline

What does a pipeline involving us and Canada have to do with Putin intervening in Ukraine’s affairs? Ryan can be as stupid as Palin is some times.

582 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:08:38am

re: #576 Dr. Matt

Looks like the Koch brothers sent out a memo to the GOP last night

Paul Ryan stuns CNN host: Keystone pipeline will solve Russia’s Ukraine invasion

Fox Uses Ukraine Crisis In “Absurd” Push For Keystone XL Pipeline

Fracking can help put Putin back on his heels. An oil pipeline won’t do as much. It may still have a positive impact if it cuts the price of oil or cuts into Russia’s market, though.

583 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:09:57am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

What does a pipeline involving us and Canada have to do with Putin intervening in Ukraine’s affairs? Ryan can be as stupid as Palin is some times.

Ukraine Crisis Reminds Us To Keep Ignoring Conservatives On Foreign Policy

584 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:10:36am

re: #571 lawhawk

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That’s a huge swing in just a short period of time.

It’s been great to see. I think the rise in support is why the RR is so heavily invested in Africa and Eastern Europe. They want to shape the young minds there against gays and lesbians and if it means barbaric laws like Uganda’s, then so be it because they need to have homosexuals viewed as criminals if they want to win this battle.

585 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:11:17am

re: #582 Dark_Falcon

Fracking can help put Putin back on his heels. An oil pipeline won’t do as much. It may still have a positive impact if it cuts the price of oil or cuts into Russia’s market, though.

Eh… nope.

586 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:11:31am

re: #583 Varek Raith

Ukraine Crisis Reminds Us To Keep Ignoring Conservatives On Foreign Policy

Damn straight.

587 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:11:39am

re: #578 Dark_Falcon

A perjury trap is when someone - a prosecutor or a legislator attempts to compel testimony with the intent of catching that person committing perjury.

Issa isn’t interested in fixing the problem at the IRS, a problem created by Congress writing the law that the IRS is trying to administer to the best of its ability with limited funds. He’s trying to get scalps, and thinks that Lerner deserves to be prosecuted over a non-scandal. He’d be trying to get Lerner to make statements that contradict her prior statements in such a way that she either commits perjury in her prior statements or in her current statements.

That’s why she took the 5th - to head off that potential outcome.

588 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:13:18am

re: #569 lawhawk

Answered your own question. Simply restirring the BS, and hoping to get Lerner into a perjury trap, which is why she took the 5th the last time, and continues to assert the same today.

Rep. Cummings went postal on Issa after he adjourned the hearing (and turned off Cummings’ microphone).

re: #574 Dr. Matt

Good. I hope she continues to exercise the 5th. Hopefully the Issa butthurt has reached 11.

Here’s what I don’t get: the yammering pundit class is going on about how the GOP can retake the Senate this year.

If that happens, we get to see a whole new level of crazy from conservatives, Republicans, and the Tea Baggers (which I should probably stop referring to as separate groups at this point.)

My, shall we say, lack of faith in the American electorate’s critical thought skills not withstanding; is this what people really want? Are they that dense?

If we give the GOP control of both houses of Congress, the country will essentially stop functioning. You think it’s bad now? Just wait.

Again, is this what the conservatives who post here want? Is this what the so-called “independent” wants? Because we’re seriously looking at 24/7 Benghazi hearings and ACA repeals if these loons get control of the Senate.

An entire party whose idea of patriotism is “Destroy the black dude, even if we have to destroy the United States to do it”, scares the ever-loving shit out of me.

589 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:13:44am

re: #582 Dark_Falcon

A pipeline that wont open for years isn’t worth a damned thing at the moment in this crisis in Ukraine. It doesn’t increase fuel supplies or reduce prices, which are two things that could reduce Russian revenues from fuels.

Going into the SPR to sell fuel on the open market might make an impact, though it could be offset simply by reducing output elsewhere (Russia or its client states could reduce supply) to keep the price per barrel up.

590 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:15:23am

re: #589 lawhawk

A pipeline that wont open for years isn’t worth a damned thing at the moment in this crisis in Ukraine. It doesn’t increase fuel supplies or reduce prices, which are two things that could reduce Russian revenues from fuels.

Going into the SPR to sell fuel on the open market might make an impact, though it could be offset simply by reducing output elsewhere (Russia or its client states could reduce supply) to keep the price per barrel up.

And this assumes that the only reason Putin is doing this is because of oil.
It isn’t.

591 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:16:50am

re: #590 Varek Raith

And this assumes that the only reason Putin is doing this is because of oil.
It isn’t.

Greater Russia, da? I mean from I understand Russia’s got plenty of oil on their own.

592 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:17:04am
593 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:18:09am

re: #592 Dr. Matt

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Ha you’d infuriate both the wingnuts and Putin with that.

594 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:18:22am

re: #592 Dr. Matt

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That would be a great way to piss off Putin’s core supporters: American Republicans.

595 Flounder  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:18:50am

re: #587 lawhawk

Like Scooter Libby?

596 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:19:05am

re: #571 lawhawk

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That’s a huge swing in just a short period of time.

Guess who else recognizes there is a difference between the church recognizing same-sex marriage and having the legal right being recognized by the government?

Pope Francis: Church could support civil unions

(CNN) - Pope Francis reaffirmed the Catholic Church’s opposition to gay marriage on Wednesday, but suggested in a newspaper interview that it could support some types of civil unions.

The Pope reiterated the church’s longstanding teaching that “marriage is between a man and a woman.” However, he said, “We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety.”

For instance, civil unions provide financial security to cohabitating couples, “as for instance in medical care,” the Pope said in a wide-ranging interview published Wednesday in Corriere della Sera, an Italian daily.

A number of Catholic bishops have supported civil unions for same-sex couples, including Pope Francis when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires in 2010, according to reports in National Catholic Reporter and The New York Times.

This is the first time a Pope has “indicated even tentative acceptance of civil unions,” according to Catholic News Service.

597 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:19:09am

re: #590 Varek Raith

A reason may be oil - and controlling pipelines to Europe to cut out the middle man, but it’s not the only reason.

Putin wants to remake the old Russian security buffer against NATO/EU and Western European inroads in its sphere of influence.

Ukraine is looking west to economic improvements, but Putin wants to reassert Russian mastery/influence.

598 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:19:29am

re: #508 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Many active gang members from violent gangs are teenagers.

Being behind bars would be a good place for them, or the adult gangsters, to be if it actually rehabilitated them. But we gave up on that a long time ago.

Rehab? We don’t even start them off on the right foot in LAUSD in those neighborhoods. Double damned, and that’s a terrible stain on our culture.

599 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:19:42am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

What does a pipeline involving us and Canada have to do with Putin intervening in Ukraine’s affairs?

Simple answer: Nothing.

Just like Benghazi has nothing to with Putin. Or mom jeans. Or bear wrestling. Or drill, baby, drill. These are very dumb people dressed up and pretending they are smart.

600 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:20:12am

Image: obama_riding_a_lion_by_sharpwriter-d5ftze6.jpg

You move, Vlad.

601 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:20:13am

re: #595 Flounder

Like Scooter Libby?

Scooter Libby actually did something wrong. Big difference.

602 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:22:10am
603 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:22:23am

re: #600 Varek Raith

Image: obama_riding_a_lion_by_sharpwriter-d5ftze6.jpg

You move, Vlad.

With that raptor head on the hilt of his lightsaber, does that make him a jedi or a sith lord?

604 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:22:48am

re: #603 RadicalModerate

With that raptor on the hilt of his lightsaber, does that make him a jedi or a sith lord?

Grey.

605 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:24:51am

re: #600 Varek Raith

Image: obama_riding_a_lion_by_sharpwriter-d5ftze6.jpg

You move, Vlad.

I think my favorite one of that series is Bill Clinton with the remote control crocodile and unzipped fly.

606 Flounder  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:25:45am

re: #601 Mattand

For what?

607 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:25:54am

re: #590 Varek Raith

And this assumes that the only reason Putin is doing this is because of oil.
It isn’t.

no, it assumes that Putin can be hit in his pocketbook, which he can.

608 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:27:09am

re: #601 Mattand

Scooter Libby actually did something wrong. Big difference.

What did he do? He didn’t leak Valerie Plame’s name, to be sure. Richard Armatage did that.

609 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:28:11am
610 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:29:07am

re: #596 RadicalModerate

Baby steps. Also, it’s worth remembering that this is a total 180 from how the self-loathing closet case Benedict treated gays.

611 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:29:35am

re: #609 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s the problem with these laws. They are a form of discrimination.

613 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:30:30am

OT, but Michele Bachmann’s crazy eyes are on the front page of Yahoo right now and it’s disturbing me. I liked it better earlier this morning when they had this amusing story.

614 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:30:44am

re: #610 Ian G.

Baby steps. Also, it’s worth remembering that this is a total 180 from how the self-loathing closet case Benedict treated gays.

Yep or a comparison with the many Evangelical churches who refuse to recognize gay people as fellow human beings.Francis has the church headed in the right direction I think.

615 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:31:04am

re: #612 Varek Raith

LOL! That wins the intertubes for all time.

616 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:31:39am

re: #608 Dark_Falcon

What did he do? He didn’t leak Valerie Plame’s name, to be sure. Richard Armatage did that.

Wasn’t he the guy who was running FEMA during Katrina?

617 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:31:44am

re: #612 Varek Raith

Image: bill_clinton_the_lady_killer_by_sharpwriter-d5wx11h.jpg

Are there any more of those? Because they’re briliant.

618 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:32:11am

re: #616 Feline Fearless Leader

Wasn’t he the guy who was running FEMA during Katrina?

That’s Michael “Heckuva job” Brown. Libby was Cheney’s chief of staff I believe.

619 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:32:27am

re: #612 Varek Raith

Image: bill_clinton_the_lady_killer_by_sharpwriter-d5wx11h.jpg

And in the background one can see Ronald McDonald firing a shotgun. Is that part a wingnut image or a moonbat image?

620 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:32:55am

re: #617 HappyWarrior

Are there any more of those? Because they’re briliant.

sharpwriter.deviantart.com

621 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:33:26am

re: #432 Justanotherhuman

Mental illness, American-style.

Rescuer: Pregnant mom intentionally drove van with 3 kids inside into ocean

Read more: wesh.com

Those hormones will make you crazy. Oprah did a show on it once. In some countries (at the time) they did not prosecute mothers who killed their infants within the first year of the child’s life—because of Post-Partem Depression.

I totally understand the Pre-Partem depression. I had it. It is why I never had a second child.

622 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:33:35am

re: #606 Flounder

For what?

re: #608 Dark_Falcon

What did he do? He didn’t leak Valerie Plame’s name, to be sure. Richard Armatage did that.

From Wikipedia:

A year and a half later, a jury would convict Libby of obstruction of justice and perjury in his grand jury testimony and making false statements to federal investigators about when and how he learned that Plame was a CIA agent.

623 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:34:32am

re: #620 Varek Raith

sharpwriter.deviantart.com

Image: ben_franklin_vs__zeus_by_sharpwriter-d4hjp6a.jpg
Founding Father versus Founding God!

624 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:34:35am

re: #618 HappyWarrior

That’s Michael “Heckuva job” Brown. Libby was Cheney’s chief of staff I believe.

Yeah, 2005 was really the year that sent the Bush presidency into free-fall. By then, only the most delusional neo-con or GOP loyalist could say with a straight face that Iraq was going well. And he nominated Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court. And he had a clueless horse breeder running FEMA during one of the worst natural disasters in American history.

625 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:35:02am

re: #622 Mattand

From Wikipedia:

It’s worth noting that Bush refused to pardon Libby which pissed off Cheney very much.

626 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:35:35am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

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Pallywood, Russian style?

627 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:35:36am

re: #624 Ian G.

Yeah, 2005 was really the year that sent the Bush presidency into free-fall. By then, only the most delusional neo-con or GOP loyalist could say with a straight face that Iraq was going well. And he nominated Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court. And he had a clueless horse breeder running FEMA during one of the worst natural disasters in American history.

Yeah it was all downhill there for Bush.

628 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:35:40am

re: #622 Mattand

From Wikipedia:

Some would call that a perjury trap right there.

630 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:38:54am

Give us your tired, your poor, your fanatical fundamentalist home-schoolers…

German home-school family ‘will not be deported’ from US

631 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:39:11am

re: #453 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Having suffered through a couple of bouts of clinical depression, it is a maddening process to try to find the right meds, even if they do work. And going to appointments and remembering to take the meds every day when you don’t want to leave the house or answer the phone or anything can be a challenge. For weeks/months on end. Our medical system is indeed set up for the “quick fix.”

The other thing that annoys me is that mental illness (depression in my case) isn’t like a leg injury or something where you expect compassion and empathy from those around you. I did research on stigma in college, and I’m well-read enough to know how people look at mental health issues. Unless they are very understanding people, you’re better off avoiding the “cheer up, it will get better” nostrums.

It took a lot before I even would talk to my PCP about it.

my 2 cents

I’ve been watching a series of videos that were published by an organization called The Coalition Against Pediatric Pain. It is part of a Think Tank conference on my disorder , Ehlers-Danlos III (hypermobility).

The doctors involved ALL voice their frustration at the “system”. They all recognized the scope of the disorder and feel helpless to treat their patients. Depression, Anxiety, Sleep Disturbances —-is it the cause of the pain or a symptom of a larger systemic issue?

It’s so refreshing to hear doctors expressing what I have been feeling for years.

632 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:39:23am

Image: richard_nixon_fighting_a_saber_tooth_tiger_by_sharpwriter-d6bln06.jpg
i’m not a crook but I am a saber tooth tiger fighter.

633 makeitstop  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:39:58am

re: #576 Dr. Matt

Looks like the Koch brothers sent out a memo to the GOP last night

Paul Ryan stuns CNN host: Keystone pipeline will solve Russia’s Ukraine invasion

Fox Uses Ukraine Crisis In “Absurd” Push For Keystone XL Pipeline

It’s almost as if they take two completely unrelated things and try to plug them into one another and call it a ‘solution.’

Buzzword salad.

634 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:40:05am

I’m sure all those tea-partiers will be up in arms for Obama not deporting the aliens, the Romeikes.

635 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:41:16am

Life is good in the Je$u$ business:

New Jersey archbishop sells church assets to build himself an indoor swimming pool

636 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:41:51am

re: #631 FemNaziBitch

Last night I learned that most of the bodies seritonin receptors are in the gut —so the reason SSRI’s work so well for me, might be partly a gastrointestinal issue —common with my disorder … .

Maybe I should find a Traditional Chinese Medical doctor. They seem to focus on poop. (half joking)

Science, however, is sooo kewl.

637 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:42:02am

re: #635 freetoken

Life is good in the Je$u$ business:

New Jersey archbishop sells church assets to build himself an indoor swimming pool

Vow of poverty party.

638 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:43:02am

re: #628 Dark_Falcon

Some would call that a perjury trap right there.

My point is that Libby did something wrong. The IRS official that Issa is trying to hang out to dry is because Issa needs a scapegoat for his bullshit, imaginary “scandal”.

You do get the difference between the fantasy that Issa is pursuing, vs being involved in the treasonous act of outing a CIA operative?

639 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:43:19am

re: #619 Dark_Falcon

And in the background one can see Ronald McDonald firing a shotgun. Is that part a wingnut image or a moonbat image?

It’s a reference to all the Ronald McDonald memes that were going around at the time, iirc.

640 Stanley Sea  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:44:09am

re: #612 Varek Raith

Image: bill_clinton_the_lady_killer_by_sharpwriter-d5wx11h.jpg

Love the nuclear gator.

641 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:44:15am

re: #635 freetoken

Life is good in the Je$u$ business:

New Jersey archbishop sells church assets to build himself an indoor swimming pool

These guys just don’t learn, do they?

642 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:44:56am

re: #639 Varek Raith

It’s a reference to all the Ronald McDonald memes that were going around at the time, iirc.

So, cultural. Not moonbatty or wingnutty.
The man liked his McyDs.
XD

643 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:45:22am
Conway, who opposed same-sex marriage during his failed run for the U.S. Senate in 2010, wouldn’t pinpoint when he changed his mind to support full marriage equality. He said he came around “over the last few years” after conversations with friends in the gay community, and after thinking about how his two daughters would come to view his decision.

“I thought long and hard. I thought about the arc of history,” he said. “I thought about the fact that at one time in this country we discriminated against women. At one time we discriminated against African-Americans and people of color. At one time we discriminated against those with disabilities. This is the last minority group in this country that a significant portion of our population thinks it’s OK to still discriminate against in any way. And I didn’t think that was right.”

TPM Interview: Why Kentucky’s Attorney General Refuses To Defend His State’s Anti-Gay Law

644 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:45:48am

re: #636 FemNaziBitch

Last night I learned that most of the bodies seritonin receptors are in the gut —so the reason SSRI’s work so well for me, might be partly a gastrointestinal issue —common with my disorder … .

Maybe I should find a Traditional Chinese Medical doctor. They seem to focus on poop. (half joking)

Science, however, is sooo kewl.

Be careful with that. When my sister-in-law quit on chemotherapy for her cancer she went the traditional chinese medicine and therapy route. My brother was supportive of her decision, but quite reserved of expressing his opinion on the whole matter. And to make the story short the doctor told my sister-in-law that her cancer had been cured entirely about two weeks before it killed her.

645 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:45:52am

My two favorites are FDR in steampunk mech and the Abe Lincoln one.

FDR:
Image: fdr_battle_for_america_poster_by_sharpwriter-d46kt1m.jpg

Lincoln - because you know it pisses off the neo-Confederates:
sharpwriter.deviantart.com

646 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:46:08am

re: #630 freetoken

Give us your tired, your poor, your fanatical fundamentalist home-schoolers…

German home-school family ‘will not be deported’ from US

I keep noticing this disturbing (to me, anyway) link between refusal to educate one’s children in anything but the most insane, brainwashing fundamentalist way… and being one of those quiverfull weirdos.

647 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:46:33am

re: #633 makeitstop

It’s almost as if they take two completely unrelated things and try to plug them into one another and call it a ‘solution.’

Buzzword salad.

Yup. Also explains why the Chill Billy rambled on about Putin and his oil drilling. Clearly a memo has been circulated.

648 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:47:49am

re: #555 Justanotherhuman

Correlation does not mean Causation?

649 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:48:28am

re: #635 freetoken

Life is good in the Je$u$ business:

New Jersey archbishop sells church assets to build himself an indoor swimming pool

I wonder if Pope Francis will let this stand if he catches wind of it happening.

650 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:48:53am

re: #646 GunstarGreen

I keep noticing this disturbing (to me, anyway) link between refusal to educate one’s children in anything but the most insane, brainwashing fundamentalist way… and being one of those quiverfull weirdos.

One of the boys I coached this year on my basketball team was home-schooled. Didn’t ask his father out of politeness why he homeschools his son but I really don’t like homeschooling. I’m prejudiced I concede because I see the relationship because ultra fundamentalists and the homeschooling movement and one of the kids I knew growing up who was homeschooled was someone who clearly could have benefited like I did from having an IEP.

651 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:49:04am

re: #648 FemNaziBitch

Correlation does not mean Causation?

Lies!
Image: PiratesVsTemp.png

652 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:49:11am

re: #560 freetoken

Which pretty much summarizes all research wrt “IQ” and genetics.

Generally speaking, what is found is that there are correlations, strong to weak, for small differences in “IQ”.

The current big effort at BGI to sequence the genome of Chinese looking for “intelligence” genes will, I propose, pretty much end in failure. Yes, there are causes genetically for a wide range of human attributes, and that would include “intelligence”, but we are all so much alike, genetically, that all we find are small differences when looking at an aggregate trait, which “intelligence” certainly is.

IQ is (scientifically speaking) pretty much bullshit to begin with.

It doesn’t take into account CREATIVITY.

Which, of course, I feel strongly about as that is what I have in abundance.

653 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:49:37am

A good article on the business model of the outrage industry…
And from the left…Fox News There’s more to Fox News’ strategy of hiring liberals than creating a public boxing match

For a network that relies on a partisan base, adding a group of liberals is risky, pushing against the purity of programming that has historically been the core of Fox’s success. And yet the nation’s most-watched cable channel doesn’t maneuver without strategy. Since it launched in 1996, Fox has grown into the largest cable news network, drawing 1.1 million viewers in primetime and 1.76 million viewers in total per day, an audience that’s four times larger than its next closest competitor, CNN, and greater than both MSNBC and CNN’s audiences combined. Fox has gained this market share by its masterful manipulation of ideology, drawing an audience that’s primarily conservative, and then seeking to reinforce their values. It’s a strategy that MSNBC has scrambled to copy, setting itself up as Fox’s ideological opposite. But this year, when MSNBC’s daytime ratings slid below CNN’s, Politico’s Dylan Byers blamed the fall on MSNBC’s programming, which airs more opinion than any other news network, reaching a tipping point of “too much liberal outrage.”

….the way the voice of dissent is wielded—liberals are always outnumbered, thrust into subjects that descend into brawls—often undercuts balance in favor of fireworks. It’s a version of on-air political theater that some research suggests can actually further polarize opinions. Put another way, having two conservatives and a liberal can be a more powerful force than three conservatives—a counterintuitive approach that can solidify political beliefs and quash the other side.

654 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:50:03am

re: #645 RadicalModerate

My two favorites are FDR in steampunk mech and the Abe Lincoln one.

FDR:
Image: fdr_battle_for_america_poster_by_sharpwriter-d46kt1m.jpg

Lincoln - because you know it pisses off the neo-Confederates:
sharpwriter.deviantart.com

FDR: The Original Iron Man.

655 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:50:47am
656 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:51:00am

re: #635 freetoken

Life is good in the Je$u$ business:

New Jersey archbishop sells church assets to build himself an indoor swimming pool

If I remember correctly, the Newark diocese (which covers much of Northern NJ) is claiming poverty and that it needed to shutter schools that folks in the community relied upon.

The schools got shut, the archbishop made himself a mogul’s mansion by expanding what was already a pretty comfy retirement pad.

This is exactly the kind of situation that has turned many off from the Church - watching your donations go to line the pockets of church elders.

657 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:51:38am

re: #655 Backwoods_Sleuth

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658 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:52:31am

Two high-profile kidnappings reported in Crimea, including UN envoy

Two high-profile individuals were kidnapped in Crimea on March 5, including a United Nations peace envoy Robert Serry and chief of Ukraine’s border service Mykhailo Kovalev. The kidnappings took place in Simferopol and Yalta.

Serry, the United Nations Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, arrived to Ukraine on March 5 after he was asked by UN Deputy Secretary-General Jan Eliasson the day before “to travel to Crimea to take stock and evaluate the situation there.”

Ukraine’s foreign ministry said Serry was kidnapped in Crimea’s capital Simferopol. “Serry has just informed us that his car in Simferopol was blocked by unknown people in uniforms and they told him they were under orders to take him to the airport. He refused to go and was seized and is effectivey being held by a group of unknown people as a hostage,” Foreign Ministry Spokesman Yevhen Perebyinis said.

659 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:52:38am

re: #656 lawhawk

If I remember correctly, the Newark diocese (which covers much of Northern NJ) is claiming poverty and that it needed to shutter schools that folks in the community relied upon.

The schools got shut, the archbishop made himself a mogul’s mansion by expanding what was already a pretty comfy retirement pad.

This is exactly the kind of situation that has turned many off from the Church - watching your donations go to line the pockets of church elders.

Spoiler

This is, has always been, and will always be the entire point of large-scale organized religion.

660 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:52:51am

re: #649 RadicalModerate

661 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:53:04am

re: #655 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I just noticed that too. Potentially very bad news.

662 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:53:10am

re: #656 lawhawk

If I remember correctly, the Newark diocese (which covers much of Northern NJ) is claiming poverty and that it needed to shutter schools that folks in the community relied upon.

The schools got shut, the archbishop made himself a mogul’s mansion by expanding what was already a pretty comfy retirement pad.

This is exactly the kind of situation that has turned many off from the Church - watching your donations go to line the pockets of church elders.

For me, it was always something like that. You hear in church about how we need to help the less well off etc etc but then you see the priest or minister living like a prince. My great uncle was a priest and WWII veteran. His congregation was in a very poor predominately African American part of Louisiana.

663 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:53:16am

re: #649 RadicalModerate

I wonder if Pope Francis will let this stand if he catches wind of it happening.

I doubt it, if this previous story sets any precedent:

articles.latimes.com

664 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:54:18am

re: #571 lawhawk

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That’s a huge swing in just a short period of time.

I remember when the kid was still watching Nickelodeon —they had some sort of “rock the vote campaign” or something similar wording going on. They used to (maybe still do) have a kid’s vote during each election.

Anyway, they were actually running ads that including “do you want to be told who to marry?” —which was a focus on LGBT marriage issues. AT the time, I didn’t get why they thought such a thing was an issue.

Yes, we have all come a long way in a short time.

But, my point is, that those kids are now, like my son, voting.

attrition?

665 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:55:58am

re: #638 Mattand

My point is that Libby did something wrong. The IRS official that Issa is trying to hang out to dry is because Issa needs a scapegoat for his bullshit, imaginary “scandal”.

You do get the difference between the fantasy that Issa is pursuing, vs being involved in the treasonous act of outing a CIA operative?

But Libby wasn’t involved in outing Plame. He didn’t unlawfully tell Armatage about Plame or tell him to out her. Patrick Fitzgerald was just looking for his own high-level scalp.

George W. Bush refused to pardon Libby because to do so would have revived speculation that the White House had ordered Plame outed as a payback for her husband’s attack on the case for invading Iraq. President Bush could not afford a flurry of such speculation at a time when he was pushing the Iraq Surge through.

666 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:57:42am

What, nobody wants 666?

667 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:58:34am

re: #653 Killgore Trout

A good article on the business model of the outrage industry…
And from the left…Fox News There’s more to Fox News’ strategy of hiring liberals than creating a public boxing match

This doesn’t appear to me to be particularly revealing.

Entertainment models have tended to follow the protagonist/antagonist form. Faux News needs living, breathing antagonists - simply referring to ALGORE! in the third person doesn’t make for as exciting of a confrontation as an actual body sitting in studio.

Stepping back to look at the bigger picture, it’s striking at how ubiquitous binary thinking is among our culture, not just cable “news” programs.

Our attempts to fit everything into an A OR B choice is all the more striking when viewed in light of how the universe actually works, which is, indeterminately at the micro scale, and even if deterministic on the large scale the variables are so numerous to make things appear random.

668 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:07am

re: #614 HappyWarrior

Yep or a comparison with the many Evangelical churches who refuse to recognize gay people as fellow human beings.Francis has the church headed in the right direction I think.

Gay men …you realize he is accepting (or seeming to accept) the humanity of gay men)

Women of all flavors are still sub-human.

These aren’t baby steps —they aren’t even cochroach steps.

669 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:24am

re: #667 freetoken

Stepping back to look at the bigger picture, it’s striking at how ubiquitous binary thinking is among our culture, not just cable “news” programs.

How did you go about analyzing this purported binariness in our culture?

670 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:41am

Dogs wearing crocheted babushkas.

You’re welcome.

671 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:50am
672 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:56am

re: #668 FemNaziBitch

Gay men …you realize he is accepting (or seeming to accept) the humanity of gay men)

Women of all flavors are still sub-human.

These aren’t baby steps —they aren’t even cochroach steps.

True point. There’s a reason why I don’t do mass.

673 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:01:47am

re: #671 wrenchwench

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Yep, beautiful and I hope Brevik never gets to see the outside world ever again.

674 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:02:36am

re: #671 wrenchwench

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Can we put Breivik in the water and then slam the two pieces together?

OK that was a teeny bit bloodthirsty.

675 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:02:54am

re: #644 Feline Fearless Leader

Be careful with that. When my sister-in-law quit on chemotherapy for her cancer she went the traditional chinese medicine and therapy route. My brother was supportive of her decision, but quite reserved of expressing his opinion on the whole matter. And to make the story short the doctor told my sister-in-law that her cancer had been cured entirely about two weeks before it killed her.

No, I wouldn’t quit traditional medicine. Just trying to learn all I can. I think they have better supplements for the gut than what is otherwise available.

ONe of the docs featured in the videos talked about different supplements —and it got me thinking about TCM.

A good TCM doctor works with modern medicine and knows what is what.

676 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:04:19am

re: #650 HappyWarrior

One of the boys I coached this year on my basketball team was home-schooled. Didn’t ask his father out of politeness why he homeschools his son but I really don’t like homeschooling. I’m prejudiced I concede because I see the relationship because ultra fundamentalists and the homeschooling movement and one of the kids I knew growing up who was homeschooled was someone who clearly could have benefited like I did from having an IEP.

I know good homeschoolers and bad homeschoolers. I think the difference comes with college. Are they preparing their children for regular State University or some Michele Bachman style fundamentalist college?

677 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:05:35am

re: #667 freetoken

This doesn’t appear to me to be particularly revealing.

Entertainment models have tended to follow the protagonist/antagonist form. Faux News needs living, breathing antagonists - simply referring to ALGORE! in the third person doesn’t make for as exciting of a confrontation as an actual body sitting in studio.

Stepping back to look at the bigger picture, it’s striking at how ubiquitous binary thinking is among our culture, not just cable “news” programs.

Our attempts to fit everything into an A OR B choice is all the more striking when viewed in light of how the universe actually works, which is, indeterminately at the micro scale, and even if deterministic on the large scale the variables are so numerous to make things appear random.

I found the minor differences between the Fox and MSNBC models interesting. There are some right wing columnists pointing to the article claiming that Fox is superior by allowing more contrary voices, in reality it’s just a more effective business model.

678 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:05:45am

re: #669 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

How did you go about analyzing this purported binariness in our culture?

Not sure what you mean by that question, but it strikes me that trying to have a universe in which only two states exist - “liberal”, “conservative” - and then to ply that on a entertainment news program, where the creatives make the liberal = antagonist, conservative = protagonist (which is the Fox News model) - really is a forced dichotomy on just about any subject.

679 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:05:56am

re: #656 lawhawk

If I remember correctly, the Newark diocese (which covers much of Northern NJ) is claiming poverty and that it needed to shutter schools that folks in the community relied upon.

The schools got shut, the archbishop made himself a mogul’s mansion by expanding what was already a pretty comfy retirement pad.

This is exactly the kind of situation that has turned many off from the Church - watching your donations go to line the pockets of church elders.

Medieval mindset — Priests are at the top of the food chain.

680 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:06:13am

re: #658 Killgore Trout

Two high-profile kidnappings reported in Crimea, including UN envoy

That makes little sense, since Russia can veto any UN resolution.

681 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:06:25am

re: #676 FemNaziBitch

I know good homeschoolers and bad homeschoolers. I think the difference comes with college. Are they preparing their children for regular State University or some Michele Bachman style fundamentalist college?

And we have one of those in my backyard founded by Michael Farris. Anyhow, I do agree. I think my problems go beyond religion and into I think regular schooling is better for a child because it helps them learn to hear other perspectives and I think it greatly helps with socialization.

682 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:07:19am

re: #675 FemNaziBitch

No, I wouldn’t quit traditional medicine. Just trying to learn all I can. I think they have better supplements for the gut than what is otherwise available.

ONe of the docs featured in the videos talked about different supplements —and it got me thinking about TCM.

A good TCM doctor works with modern medicine and knows what is what.

Honestly, from what I’ve read, the only good TCM doctor is one who doesn’t practice TCM at all.

Alternative medicine is a bad, bad idea. Magical thinking married with the naturalistic fallacy is a recipe for disaster.

683 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:07:39am

re: #662 HappyWarrior

For me, it was always something like that. You hear in church about how we need to help the less well off etc etc but then you see the priest or minister living like a prince. My great uncle was a priest and WWII veteran. His congregation was in a very poor predominately African American part of Louisiana.

Yes, and they do it all tax free.

Really, the IRS should go after Clergy that “mix” funds.

684 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:09:15am

re: #665 Dark_Falcon

But Libby wasn’t involved in outing Plame. He didn’t unlawfully tell Armatage about Plame or tell him to out her. Patrick Fitzgerald was just looking for his own high-level scalp.

George W. Bush refused to pardon Libby because to do so would have revived speculation that the White House had ordered Plame outed as a payback for her husband’s attack on the case for invading Iraq. President Bush could not afford a flurry of such speculation at a time when he was pushing the Iraq Surge through.

The IRS official has done nothing wrong. Libby was at least ankle deep in the Plame affair, and hardly a crucified innocent.

685 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:09:26am

re: #630 freetoken

Give us your tired, your poor, your fanatical fundamentalist home-schoolers…

German home-school family ‘will not be deported’ from US

Well, they certainly picked the right state. They had considered other countries, but German and a working knowledge of English by the father, a piano teacher (classically trained), limited them.

Here’s another take on this family’s “right” to be granted asylum and HSLDA’s defense of them. It’s very good.

patheos.com

686 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:09:38am

re: #680 Dark_Falcon

That makes little sense, since Russia can veto any UN resolution.

I seriously doubt the Russians are responsible. Most likely it’s one of the militia/vigilante groups, it’s an indication that things could spiral out of control quickly.

687 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:09:40am

re: #651 Varek Raith

Lies!
Image: PiratesVsTemp.png

Teddy Roosevelt versus Bigfoot. Which is actually less far-out than most of the others, since if Bigfoot were real TR would have hunted it.

688 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:10:17am

re: #677 Killgore Trout

I found the miner differences between the Fox and MSNBC models interesting. There are some right wing columnists pointing to the article claiming that Fox is superior by allowing more contrary voices, in reality it’s just a more effective business model.

There is no doubt about that last part.

Murdoch is brilliant, in that Machiavellian way characteristic of many business idols.

By presenting “news” as that old favorite of America - professional wrestling (where most stories were heel vs. face) - Fox achieved an entertainment level that older news outlets lacked.

689 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:12:12am

re: #681 HappyWarrior

And we have one of those in my backyard founded by Michael Farris. Anyhow, I do agree. I think my problems go beyond religion and into I think regular schooling is better for a child because it helps them learn to hear other perspectives and I think it greatly helps with socialization.

Which would be the entire problem with homeschooling.

Are there good homeschoolers out there? Of course there are. There are always exceptions to every rule. But the point of homeschooling, the entire reason it exists in the first place, is the desire of the vast sweeping majority of its practitioners to remove their children from any environment where they might encounter information that challenges that being spoon-fed by the parents. The purpose of homeschooling, which is only ever subverted by the handful of ‘good’ homeschoolers, is to make sure that Little Jimmy and Little Sally don’t get any filthy goddamned secularist ideas from those filthy liberal hussies down at the GUB’MINT SCHOOL.

690 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:12:58am

re: #687 Dark_Falcon

Teddy Roosevelt versus Bigfoot. Which is actually less far-out than most of the others, since if Bigfoot were real TR would have hunted it.

Bigfoot would have been clearly overmatched.

691 Flounder  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:13:30am

re: #638 Mattand

Who outed a CIA operative? It wasn’t Libby

692 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:13:52am

re: #689 GunstarGreen

Which would be the entire problem with homeschooling.

Are there good homeschoolers out there? Of course there are. There are always exceptions to every rule. But the point of homeschooling, the entire reason it exists in the first place, is the desire of the vast sweeping majority of its practitioners to remove their children from any environment where they might encounter information that challenges that being spoon-fed by the parents. The purpose of homeschooling, which is only ever subverted by the handful of ‘good’ homeschoolers, is to make sure that Little Jimmy and Little Sally don’t get any filthy goddamned secularist ideas from those filthy liberal hussies down at the GUB’MINT SCHOOL.

Exactly why I have a problem with it.

693 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:14:32am

re: #681 HappyWarrior

And we have one of those in my backyard founded by Michael Farris. Anyhow, I do agree. I think my problems go beyond religion and into I think regular schooling is better for a child because it helps them learn to hear other perspectives and I think it greatly helps with socialization.

depends on the kid. Some do well in elementary and fail in Junior HIgh —which is very understandable and vice versa.

Some kids need to be homeschool at least part of the time for emotional or developmental reasons. I say “need” as most parents do not have the financial resources to put their child in a school that will meet their needs.

There is a famous school in the Chicago Burbs for the very, very gifted. The kind of kid who is terribly bored in regular school (public or private). When I was looking for a school for my kid it was $10K a year.

Public tend to focus on the other end of the spectrum as these kid are really going to have problems if their education needs aren’t served. I’ve seen the local schools doing really great things with an autistic child I know.

As I live in a major metropolitan area, there are tons of activities and resources for homescool kids. They are not isolated. The community colleges even offer science and math classes.

694 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:15:41am

re: #682 Mattand

Honestly, from what I’ve read, the only good TCM doctor is one who doesn’t practice TCM at all.

Alternative medicine is a bad, bad idea. Magical thinking married with the naturalistic fallacy is a recipe for disaster.

Alternative medicine is the reason I am walking and functioning. When traditional medicine has nothing to offer you, you do what you must.

695 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:16:46am
696 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:17:53am

re: #425 Pie-onist Overlord

He totally plagiarized that song.

He’s so fine
Wish he were mine
That handsome guy over there
The one with the wavy hair
I don’t know how I’m gonna do it (doo lang doo lang!)
But I’m gonna make him mine! (doo lang doo lang!)
Be the envy of all the girls
It’s just a matter of time.

He got sued for it too. That was one of the copyright cases I studied in grad school.

697 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:17:59am

re: #695 Justanotherhuman

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Oh Bob, I don’t even want to hear Fox News tonite.

698 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:19:38am

re: #695 Justanotherhuman

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Good news but still a troubling situation.

699 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:20:57am

re: #698 Killgore Trout

Good news but still a troubling situation.

Keep this riveting analysis coming, Killgore.

700 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:21:53am

re: #699 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Keep this riveting analysis coming, Killgore.

I’m Confident you are Obdicut.

701 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:23:30am

This is making the rounds….
Ukraine Protests: Leaked EU Phone Call Suggests Kiev Snipers Were Hired by Opposition Coalition
There was also a video presentation on liveleak a couple days ago claiming to show the protesters were being shot from behind.

702 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:26:43am
703 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:29:10am

re: #702 Backwoods_Sleuth

Robert Serry has now agreed to go straight to the airport and end his mission in

Luckily the situation will result in nothing more than a strongly worded letter.

704 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:29:42am

re: #685 Justanotherhuman

Well, they certainly picked the right state. They had considered other countries, but German and a working knowledge of English by the father, a piano teacher (classically trained), limited them.

Here’s another take on this family’s “right” to be granted asylum and HSLDA’s defense of them. It’s very good.

patheos.com

Thrill. Yet another bunch of willfully ignorant fundies wanting to pretend to educate their kids. And pretending they’re persecuted.

Bet the folks in TN wouldn’t love them so much if they were Nigerians running from real persecution.

705 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:31:07am

WATCH THIS NOW:
Youtube Video

706 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:31:39am

I don’t know why they call it home “schooling” anyway. It’s really parents as tutors in a home atmosphere, although more and more “home schoolers” are using better prepared, more educated types to run “classes” which are held in different homes, not a central location. This is being done more in locations where there are enough of these types to form a class.

BTW, the German familys keep having kids, one since coming here and one on the way. They have those “anchor babies” we heard so much condemnation of when it was about Mexican immigrants.

Here’s the German view from 2010.

spiegel.de

“Mandatory school attendance is based on “the idea that group learning in school also helps develop social skills,” says Martina Elschenbroich, an expert on education law with the Culture Minister Conference, an assembly that brings together education ministers from Germany’s 16 states. Children learn how to interact with people who hold different views, which serves as the basis of a democratic society, says Elschenbroich.

“Until now, German and European courts have consistently supported this view. In late May 2006, the German Constitutional Court ruled that parents are not entitled to keep their children from attending school because of their religious views. Citing the government’s responsibility to provide education in a pluralistic society, the judges argued that it was completely acceptable for children to be exposed to other religious beliefs or views.

“In November 2007, the Federal Supreme Court ruled that parents can even be deprived of the custody of their children, arguing that the public has a rightful interest in preventing the formation of “parallel societies” based on religion or worldview.

“In September 2006, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Germany’s mandatory school attendance policy, along with the corresponding ban on homeschooling, is compatible with both European law and the European Convention on Human Rights.”

If there is anything evangelicals want, it’s a “parallel society”. Let them go find an island somewhere and buy it.

707 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:32:46am

LOLWHUT, how a wingnut thinks “Raise taxes on the 1% to improve infrastructure” works.

708 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:34:50am
709 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:35:55am
710 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:37:03am


No link, and it’s not on Gallardo’s own twitter feed.

711 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:37:07am

The Dirty 100.

712 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:38:02am

Issa’s position is the result of those “principled” Democrats who sat home in 2010 because Obama didn’t buy them a pony. Idiots.

713 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:39:22am
714 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:39:30am

re: #709 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That prick Issa will silence Elijah Cummings over my dead body.

715 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:40:23am

re: #712 Dr. Matt

Issa’s position is the result of those “principled” Democrats who sat home in 2010 because Obama didn’t buy them pony. Idiots.

Or voted “libertarian”.

716 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:40:51am

Tax rich, spend on infrastructure

Sounds good to me. When can we start?

717 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:41:41am

re: #709 Backwoods_Sleuth

The IRS “scandal” is still a thing?

718 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:42:56am

Creativity!

719 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:43:24am

re: #717 Bulworth

The IRS “scandal” is still a thing?

Benghazi seems not to be working this week.

720 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:44:46am
721 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:46:29am
DUBLIN, IRELAND--Underwater archaeologist Connie Kelleher, now of the Ireland National Monuments Service, has been collecting information about the seventeenth-century pirates that were based in Munster, Ireland. She has examined two sets of stairs carved out of cliff rock, one near “Dutchman’s Cove” that also had niches for candles or lanterns, and one near “Gokane Point” that led to a subterranean cavern with a waterway. Pirates and smugglers would have been able to reach the sea in the dark with these staircases… .

I wanna go see!

722 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:47:30am

re: #720 FemNaziBitch

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Gretchen Harwood’s Twitter feed is full of insane anti-Semitism.

723 gwangung  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:48:36am

re: #674 Pie-onist Overlord

Can we put Breivik in the water and then slam the two pieces together?

No, no, no….take your time.

OK that was a teeny bit bloodthirsty.

And I was a LOT bloodthirsty.

724 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:49:13am
In return for the locals allowing the booty to be brought ashore, the pirates bought local goods at three times the normal price. It was a lucrative scheme that attracted not just pirates, but also businessmen, and helped pay for colonial projects in the New World. During this time, individuals invested in colonization projects in the Americas, such as Jamestown and Bermuda. [Gallery: Lost in the Bermuda Triangle]

“Legitimate businessmen and merchant venturers were deeply involved, as it was assured access to venture capital, that was, in turn, invested in colonial ventures elsewhere in the New World, which was opening up to the maritime empires globally at this point in time,” Kelleher said in the email.

SSDD?

725 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:51:30am

re: #722 Pie-onist Overlord

Gretchen Harwood’s Twitter feed is full of insane anti-Semitism.

I don’t even know who she is —she follows me.

726 gwangung  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:51:58am

re: #707 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWHUT, how a wingnut thinks “Raise taxes on the 1% to improve infrastructure” works.

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Since it HAS worked in the past, it has a chance in the present.

History, bitches. Learn it.

727 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:52:56am
728 Weet  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:54:37am
729 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:55:23am

re: #727 FemNaziBitch

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‘Mongoloid’ is a long-out-of-date word that used to describe people whom we would today call ‘Developmentally Disabled’.

Thanks for the retro-flashback, Pat. You tactless choad.

730 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:55:50am

re: #726 gwangung

Since it HAS worked in the past, it has a chance in the present.

History, bitches. Learn it.

OH LOOK A WINGNUT MEME:
Conservatism (i.e. Monarchism, Slavery, Child Labor, etc.) “worked” until people said “this shit sucks”)

731 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:56:06am

re: #727 FemNaziBitch

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Is he ever not a repulsive asshole?

732 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:56:22am

Women Should Not Be Free from Violence? Think Again!

With this in mind, our team in the Social Development unit reviewed the experience of the World Bank in responding to sexual and gender-based violence. We found 38 projects active in 2008 or later addressing the issue in some way, for an estimated $22.5 million investment. If that number seems big, consider that $17 million of it is dedicated to one loan (in Honduras), leaving the average per-project investment at only about $200,000. Most of this investment comes from trust funds, consists of analytical work, and is focused on geographical areas where the violence is so intense it cannot be ignored, such as the Democratic Republic of the Congo or Haiti.

also Paged

733 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:56:38am

re: #730 Pie-onist Overlord

OH LOOK A WINGNUT MEME:
Conservatism (i.e. Monarchism, Slavery, Child Labor, etc.) “worked” until people said “this shit sucks”)

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If conservatism worked, the American revolution never would have happened.

734 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:57:51am

Whut?

735 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:57:56am

re: #727 FemNaziBitch

Mongoloids? WTF. I would ask the question, ‘What sort of caveman would use such a term’, but I would officially be asking a stupid question.

736 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:59:10am

re: #709 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hmmm, and Obama is the tyrant?

737 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:59:21am

re: #735 Dr. Matt

Mongoloids? WTF. I would ask the question, ‘What sort of caveman would use such a term’, but I would officially be asking a stupid question.

This is the same guy who said it’s okay to leave your wife if she’s losing her mind. He’s not exactly a person who understands the whole treat people well thing.

738 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:59:34am

re: #733 HappyWarrior

Conservatives would have been Toryists during the American Revolution.

By definition a conservative wants to adhere to the status quo and not see things change. The liberals of the time wanted to engage a new political paradigm, where the monarch was replaced by a representative government of free colonies.

739 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:59:52am

re: #733 HappyWarrior

If conservatism worked, the American revolution never would have happened.

The wingnuts love to meme the shit out of the American Revolution but they don’t like to mention that other American Revolution that failed.

740 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:01:16am

re: #738 lawhawk

Conservatives would have been Toryists during the American Revolution.

By definition a conservative wants to adhere to the status quo and not see things change. The liberals of the time wanted to engage a new political paradigm, where the monarch was replaced by a representative government of free colonies.

Precisely my point but with the full context and history.

741 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:02:43am
742 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:02:54am

re: #739 Pie-onist Overlord

The wingnuts love to meme the shit out of the American Revolution but they don’t like to mention that other American Revolution that failed.

Right that too. My point is though what lawhawk said about how the American Revolutoin is something that would never occured if we just accepted conservatism (read King and outside Parliament rule).

743 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:03:45am

re: #710 wrenchwench

744 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:03:50am

re: #576 Dr. Matt

Looks like the Koch brothers sent out a memo to the GOP last night

Paul Ryan stuns CNN host: Keystone pipeline will solve Russia’s Ukraine invasion

Fox Uses Ukraine Crisis In “Absurd” Push For Keystone XL Pipeline

I said this on Monday. It was just too predictable, like how tax cuts for rich people are the answer to every economic question.

745 Teukka  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:06:42am

re: #735 Dr. Matt

Mongoloids? WTF. I would ask the question, ‘What sort of caveman would use such a term’, but I would officially be asking a stupid question.

Not to mention that Down’s Syndrome isn’t among the common ones to occur in the case of cosanguinity, the defects and heredetary stuff is much more subtle than that.

746 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:07:25am

re: #744 GeneJockey

I said this on Monday. It was just too predictable, like how tax cuts for rich people are the answer to every economic question.

And mama gristle also fawned over Putin’s oil drilln’…..this is not all a coincidence.

747 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:08:18am

re: #738 lawhawk

Conservatives would have been Toryists during the American Revolution.

By definition a conservative wants to adhere to the status quo and not see things change. The liberals of the time wanted to engage a new political paradigm, where the monarch was replaced by a representative government of free colonies.

The proper words are Tories or Loyalists, Lawhawk. Which is what I would indeed have been had I been living at that time. I would have likely seen the Founders as a bunch of dangerous radicals.

748 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:09:38am

re: #734 Justanotherhuman

749 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:09:49am

re: #741 Justanotherhuman

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Killing police isn’t really a civil rights issue. I think it was a stupid pick for Obama.

750 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:13:00am


I would have offered to let him fly the plane if he felt so strongly about it.

751 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:13:10am

...

752 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:13:12am

Yes, this is what Chicago looks like —well, a bit of it has melted, but it is freaking cold.

753 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:13:14am

re: #748 b.d.

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Yeah, but GG’s on the case! Important victory, doncha know!

754 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:13:24am

re: #741 Justanotherhuman

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Some of those are not a surprise, especially Senator Casey (D, PA). Debo P. Adegbile’s anti-police defense of Mumia Abu-Jamal infuriated Casey’s father, then-Governor Casey. And the Casey’s have the right of it, for Abu-Jamal is cop-killer who will justly spend the rest his life behind bars and Adegbile defamed a honest cop who was killed in the line of duty to defend that murderer.

755 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:13:45am

re: #676 FemNaziBitch

I know good homeschoolers and bad homeschoolers. I think the difference comes with college. Are they preparing their children for regular State University or some Michele Bachman style fundamentalist college?

My older boy was homeschooled. In fact, homeschooling WAS his IEP. He’s got The Artist Condition Formerly Known As Prince Aspergers Syndrome as well as severe social anxiety, in addition to being very, very bright.

The District admitted they did not have a class that was appropriate for him, so they paid for one of his speech/path specialists and sent a retired teacher for an hour a day. Geord quickly went past where the visiting teacher was much help, but the relationship was important.

He’s taken college courses, but not found a muse, so we got him into an IT Tech training course, which he’s running through faster than the rest of the class.

756 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:14:06am

re: #750 Lidane

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I would have offered to let him fly the plane if he felt so strongly about it.

I guess that’s in the Schalfry bible given that cockpits weren’t even a concept until 1903.

757 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:15:05am

...

758 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:15:21am

re: #755 GeneJockey

My older boy was homeschooled. In fact, homeschooling WAS his IEP. He’s got The Artist Condition Formerly Known As Prince Aspergers Syndrome as well as severe social anxiety, in addition to being very, very bright.

The District admitted they did not have a class that was appropriate for him, so they paid for one of his speech/path specialists and sent a retired teacher for an hour a day. Geord quickly went past where the visiting teacher was much help, but the relationship was important.

He’s taken college courses, but not found a muse, so we got him into an IT Tech training course, which he’s running through faster than the rest of the class.

Glad he’s doing well. If you don’t mind me asking, how old was he when you found out he had ASD? I didn’t find until I was 15- my sophomore year. My psychologist didn’t think I did. I forget the exact circumstances that led to my being diagnosed.

759 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:15:32am

Hmm.

760 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:16:01am

re: #707 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWHUT, how a wingnut thinks “Raise taxes on the 1% to improve infrastructure” works.

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Oh hey, Republicans being dishonest sacks of shit RE: the economy. It must be a day ending in ‘y’.

In related news: down here in Georgiastan, one of the principle GET THE GUB’MINT™ OUT OF OUR LIVES!!!!!11!!1111!1 shitholes of this supposedly-great nation, they are now bitching and moaning that they won’t be getting as much federal money as they wanted to pay for the expansion of the Savannah port.

Because federal money to make sure our citizens are healthy is a fucking sin, but WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU PROMISED US MONEY FOR OUR PORT!!!!!11!!11

Funny how these pukes are happy to crawl to Uncle Sam for handouts when those handouts benefit them personally.

761 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:16:27am

re: #759 Charles Johnson

Hmm.

Abby Martin deleting Tweets from her time line?

762 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:16:35am

re: #751 Charles Johnson

…

Morse code? … = S

763 Petero1818  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:16:46am

re: #750 Lidane

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I would have offered to let him fly the plane if he felt so strongly about it.

To be fair, back in biblical times “cockpit” may have taken on a different meaning.//

764 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:17:14am

re: #762 Dr. Matt

Morse code? … = S

he’s thinking.

765 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:17:33am

re: #763 Petero1818

To be fair, back in biblical times “cockpit” may have taken on a different meaning.//

We are looking at a candidate for the lion pit…

766 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:18:19am

re: #689 GunstarGreen

Which would be the entire problem with homeschooling.

Are there good homeschoolers out there? Of course there are. There are always exceptions to every rule. But the point of homeschooling, the entire reason it exists in the first place, is the desire of the vast sweeping majority of its practitioners to remove their children from any environment where they might encounter information that challenges that being spoon-fed by the parents. The purpose of homeschooling, which is only ever subverted by the handful of ‘good’ homeschoolers, is to make sure that Little Jimmy and Little Sally don’t get any filthy goddamned secularist ideas from those filthy liberal hussies down at the GUB’MINT SCHOOL.

I disagree with your premise, that homeschooling is about isolating children from information. What we found when homeschooling is that there are Bible Bangers and Beansprouts. The Bible Bangers generally fit your description, whereas the Beansprouts are pretty much the direct opposite, and contain a surprising number of teachers, like my wife, who don’t like what the public education system provides.

And you can just imagine the filthy goddamned secularist ideas we Beansprout homeschoolers filled our kids heads with!

767 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:18:50am

Fred Gwynne was reading Morse code during WWII for a while. He cried to his commander to get out of it. :D

768 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:18:56am

re: #757 Charles Johnson

…

Spit it out Johnson!

//

769 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:19:07am

re: #752 FemNaziBitch

Yes, this is what Chicago looks like —well, a bit of it has melted, but it is freaking cold.

Kinda silly video, but the video made me smile.

I do really love Chicago.

770 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:21:13am
771 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:21:43am

re: #766 GeneJockey

I disagree with your premise, that homeschooling is about isolating children from information. What we found when homeschooling is that there are Bible Bangers and Beansprouts. The Bible Bangers generally fit your description, whereas the Beansprouts are pretty much the direct opposite, and contain a surprising number of teachers, like my wife, who don’t like what the public education system provides.

And you can just imagine the filthy goddamned secularist ideas we Beansprout homeschoolers filled our kids heads with!

I will say, in the interests of full disclosure, that I live in Georgiastan. My views on homeschooling are thus colored by the specimens to which I am primarily exposed.

772 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:22:32am


Is this the same world in which Spock is in touch with his feelings?

773 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:23:01am

OK, I guess those right wingers that were defending Glenn Greenwald about just “doing his job” as a defense attorney were really lying.

774 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:23:25am

re: #749 Killgore Trout

Killing police isn’t really a civil rights issue. I think it was a stupid pick for Obama.

Have you actually read the case? You might want to do that.

Taking on a case when it involves political questions can always be a “no-win” situation; the political questions can still remain. At any rate, Abu-Jamal still maintains his innocence and the execution case against him was dropped in 2011.

nytimes.com

775 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:24:10am

re: #730 Pie-onist Overlord

OH LOOK A WINGNUT MEME:
Conservatism (i.e. Monarchism, Slavery, Child Labor, etc.) “worked” until people said “this shit sucks”)

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But it DOES work! It enriches the rich, empowers the powerful, impoverishes the poor, and disempowers the powerless. That’s what it’s DESIGNED to do, and that’s what it does. I’d call that “working”.
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776 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:25:09am
777 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:25:30am

Well, it’s a start. CIO of Target has resigned.

nbcnews.com

I won’t say an outright firing would have been better without having a much greater understanding of the corporation’s inner workings and executive relationships.

778 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:26:59am

Putin is an American hero to the conservatives and a Russian paid fluoridation freak truther hack is a dudebro idol.

Time to cancel my internets and go back to the caveman ways of the late 90s.

779 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:28:36am

re: #777 Feline Fearless Leader

Well, it’s a start. CIO of Target has resigned.

nbcnews.com

I won’t say an outright firing would have been better without having a much greater understanding of the corporation’s inner workings and executive relationships.

And yet I have a problem finding anyone who wants to hire a Vulnerability Auditing specialist.

780 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:28:36am

re: #750 Lidane

I would have offered him a way off the plane at 30,000 feet. Without a parachute and let his god provide the needed accessories. /but only just

781 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:29:33am

re: #776 FemNaziBitch

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People do realize that there are “Latnio” racists right? People do realize that there is racism in Central and South America and in Spain, right?

782 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:29:41am

re: #774 Justanotherhuman

Have you actually read the case? You might want to do that.

Taking on a case when it involves political questions can always be a “no-win” situation; the political questions can still remain. At any rate, Abu-Jamal still maintains his innocence and the execution case against him was dropped in 2011.

nytimes.com

It’s been some years since I revisited the case but there’s little doubt he killed a police officer but he wrote a book of poetry so a lot of people like him. Killing police is illegal regardless of race or poetry publication. Evidence still indicates he’s guilty of murder.

783 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:30:01am

The Winklevoss Twins Are Going Into Outer Space And They’re Paying in……wait for it


….


wait for it

….

wait for it


….

Spoiler

….They’re Paying In Bitcoin

784 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:31:20am

Commenter doesn’t think GG was ebullient enough in his praise of BB’s “victory”.

785 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:31:37am

re: #766 GeneJockey

Here in my part of eastern Kentucky, homeschooling is pretty much a thing and, for most homeschooling families, it’s extremely organized.
The umbrella organization arranges for field trips, regular get-togethers (usually on a weekly basis), special lectures, etc. Some school districts allow the homeschool kids to participate in the schools’ regular sports, music, vocational ed programs.
My oldest niece was homeschooled all through high school in West Virginia, because they lived way off any paved roads, so regular school attendance was pretty sketchy. We worked with the local school district for adequate curriculum choices and teachers were available to help when needed. When she graduated, she got a diploma from the school district and also had two full-scholarship offers for college.
Successful homeschooling depends much on how seriously one takes it.

786 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:32:02am

Wingnut Splodey heads in 4…3…2…1…

787 gwangung  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:32:09am

re: #782 Killgore Trout

It’s been some years since I revisited the case but there’s little doubt he killed a police officer

Really?

788 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:32:30am

re: #782 Killgore Trout

It’s been some years since I revisited the case but there’s little doubt he killed a police officer but he wrote a book of poetry so a lot of people like him. Killing police is illegal regardless of race or poetry publication. Evidence still indicates he’s guilty of murder.

I thought the illegality of murder applied for people in general, and not just police.
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789 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:32:40am

Dark Falcon —GMTA

790 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:33:01am

Speaking of which. ICYMI…

791 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:33:07am

re: #783 Dr. Matt

The Winklevoss Twins Are Going Into Outer Space And They’re Paying in……wait for it

….

wait for it

….

wait for it

….

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Spoiler

But if they want to come back to earth they have to pay in cash.

792 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:34:17am


But who will the dudebros support — Putin or Snowden?

793 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:34:41am
794 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:34:42am

re: #788 Feline Fearless Leader

Mr. Abu-Jamal, who is black, was convicted of fatally shooting Officer Faulkner, who was white, on Dec. 9, 1981, after the officer pulled over Mr. Abu-Jamal’s brother for driving the wrong way on a one-way street. A jury found that Mr. Abu-Jamal had shot Officer Faulkner in the back and then, as the officer lay bleeding, shot him four more times. Mr. Abu-Jamal had been shot in the chest by the officer.

He and his brother were driving the wrong way on a one way street. When confronted by police he shot them. That’s illegal.

795 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:36:36am

re: #794 Killgore Trout

He and his brother were driving the wrong way on a one way street. When confronted by police he shot them. That’s illegal.

HURR HURR 2ND AMENDMENT SELF DEFENSE AGAINST TEH TYRANNY!!!!!11!!!

Oh wait no.

796 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:36:58am

re: #786 Pie-onist Overlord

Well of course a super secret gay muslim secularist would say that. //

797 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:36:58am

#FreeMarissa —keep it trending

over $30K donated for her defense so far

798 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:37:21am

re: #758 HappyWarrior

Glad he’s doing well. If you don’t mind me asking, how old was he when you found out he had ASD? I didn’t find until I was 15- my sophomore year. My psychologist didn’t think I did. I forget the exact circumstances that led to my being diagnosed.

He was 10, but we’d bee noticing differences for some time. Rigidity of thinking, for example, as well as highly idiosyncratic learning style and a tendency to meltdowns over seemingly inconsequential things. In testing, we learned he had the usual ASD inability to read others emotional state on the fly, which I think led to the diagnosis.

The thing is, though the doctor diagnosed him with ASD, she said he was unique even among Aspergerians. No tendency to ‘Little Professor’-type lectures, etc. His intelligence and aptitude tests were a mix of ridiculously high peaks and low troughs, like 99th percentile in visual logic versus 4th percentile in writing. But despite writing at kindergarten level his reading comprehension was at high school level.

The thing that amazes me most is that he has no problems with writing anymore. I ascribe this to his generally being very bright, so that he overcame it, probably by learning how to do it a very different way from how the rest of us learn.

799 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:37:37am

Morning Lizards.

800 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:37:40am
801 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:37:52am

re: #792 Lidane

OFFS

802 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:37:59am

Is that enough empathy?

803 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:38:26am

re: #802 Gus

Is that enough empathy?

More than.

804 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:39:14am

re: #799 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Damn west coasters. :)

805 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:39:42am

Speaking of Argentinians.

806 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:39:48am
807 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:40:36am

re: #798 GeneJockey

He was 10, but we’d bee noticing differences for some time. Rigidity of thinking, for example, as well as highly idiosyncratic learning style and a tendency to meltdowns over seemingly inconsequential things. In testing, we learned he had the usual ASD inability to read others emotional state on the fly, which I think led to the diagnosis.

The thing is, though the doctor diagnosed him with ASD, she said he was unique even among Aspergerians. No tendency to ‘Little Professor’-type lectures, etc. His intelligence and aptitude tests were a mix of ridiculously high peaks and low troughs, like 99th percentile in visual logic versus 4th percentile in writing. But despite writing at kindergarten level his reading comprehension was at high school level.

The thing that amazes me most is that he has no problems with writing anymore. I ascribe this to his generally being very bright, so that he overcame it, probably by learning how to do it a very different way from how the rest of us learn.

Thanks. Hope he continues to do well. I am honestly surprised that I wasn’t dxed sooner since I have many of the telltale signs- obsessions, poor handwriting, and poor eye contact. Socialization and improving at it is a daily journey.

808 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:40:39am

re: #802 Gus

Is that enough empathy?

Do you need a hanky?

//

809 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:41:32am

re: #804 Dr. Matt

Damn west coasters. :)

Bzzzzt. Intermountain west. It’s 11:42 AM Mountain standard Time.

810 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:41:38am
811 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:42:08am

Speaking of racism. Remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Francis because he was from Argentina?

812 blueraven  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:42:28am

re: #782 Killgore Trout

It’s been some years since I revisited the case but there’s little doubt he killed a police officer but he wrote a book of poetry so a lot of people like him. Killing police is illegal regardless of race or poetry publication. Evidence still indicates he’s guilty of murder.

And? The attorney didn’t kill the cop, he did his job and defended a client.

813 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:42:40am

re: #805 Gus

Speaking of Argentinians.

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Nice! I really like Francis. he’s already exceeded anything I had hoped for. Looks like he may actually bring about some substantial change.

814 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:42:50am
815 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:43:23am

A happy DFD to all those taking part in that particular ritual.

DFD = Dirty Forehead Day.

816 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:43:28am

re: #811 Gus

Speaking of racism. Remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Francis because he was from Argentina?

Yeah I do. They were shitty.

817 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:43:37am

re: #811 Gus

Speaking of racism. Remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Francis because he was from Argentina?

They just pine for Benedict. (Ooops, almost typed ‘Benghazi’ there.)

818 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:43:42am

re: #811 Gus

Speaking of racism. Remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Francis because he was from Argentina?

No, but I remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Benedict because he was in the Hitler Jugend.

Oh wait those weren’t jokes.

819 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:44:45am

re: #811 Gus

Speaking of racism. Remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Francis because he was from Argentina?

His first miracle was making Brazilians like an Argentinian.
(Actual joke by Brazilian co-workers.)

820 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:44:49am

re: #818 Pie-onist Overlord

No, but I remember all those Nazi jokes about Pope Benedict because he was in the Hitler Jugend.

Oh wait those weren’t jokes.

I remember because being from Argentina I was about to go all Rambo on Twitter. So instead, I sulked and got mighty pissed off.

821 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:45:20am

re: #812 blueraven

And? The attorney didn’t kill the cop, he did his job and defended a client.

It’s still a very bad pick, especially for the DoJ which has a history of being overly politicized by political appointees.

822 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:07am

re: #814 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Piling cruelty upon cruelty. These people are sick.

Under the proposal, she would be required to learn about perinatal hospice options.

She would have to sign a waiver testifying that she opted for the abortion over hospice care.

“This is a cruel bill,” said Nikema Williams, vice president of public policy for Planned Parenthood Southeast. She said there are no such perinatal hospice services in Alabama.

The fourth measure would add new requirements for pregnant minors seeking an abortion. In instances where a young woman seeks permission from a judge instead of a parent, the bill would allow parents to participate in the proceedings, even in cases where there may have been parental abuse, Dalven said.

823 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:11am

off to tend to Gramma.

bbl

824 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:11am

re: #782 Killgore Trout

It’s been some years since I revisited the case but there’s little doubt he killed a police officer but he wrote a book of poetry so a lot of people like him. Killing police is illegal regardless of race or poetry publication. Evidence still indicates he’s guilty of murder.

Obviously, Killgore, there are people who—in my opinion wrongly—support him because they believe in his innocence, not because he wrote a book of poetry.

You have like a PhD in fatuousness. What’s bizarre is how much you decry the state of discourse in the US media, and yet you resemble nothing more than a pundit, varying between stating the completely fucking obvious—Putin will either take all of the Ukraine or he won’t, ermagahd—or making blindingly obvious simplifications and hyperbolic nonsense.

825 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:32am

NATO Secretary General

826 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:32am

re: #819 Feline Fearless Leader

His first miracle was making Brazilians like an Argentinian.
(Actual joke by Brazilian co-workers.)

Going to be a real miracle if we ever get a Chilean pope that the Peruvians like. I wasn’t aware of the hostility between the two nations until my SiL and her family told me.

827 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:42am

re: #813 Killgore Trout

Nice! I really like Francis. he’s already exceeded anything I had hoped for. Looks like he may actually bring about some substantial change.

Don’t hold your breathe.

828 klys  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:46:58am

re: #807 HappyWarrior

Thanks. Hope he continues to do well. I am honestly surprised that I wasn’t dxed sooner since I have many of the telltale signs- obsessions, poor handwriting, and poor eye contact. Socialization and improving at it is a daily journey.

Rant mode on: I come from a family of introverts, and am an introvert. I am also driven, a perfectionist, and occasionally socially awkward, because I don’t always relate well to people - but I can tell the instant I have made a misstep.

But over the past five years, my mother has decided that I probably have Asperger’s. No doctors involved, just she’s decided. And it drives me up a freaking wall. a) I feel it’s really disrespectful to the folks who do have it just to turn it into a way to describe being socially awkward and b) I really think someone would have bloody noticed before I was in graduate school, given the contact I did have with psychologists/therapists.

/rant mode off.

829 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:47:15am

re: #814 Backwoods_Sleuth

Moar less government, etc.

//

830 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:47:18am

re: #814 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yet more proof that it’s not about ‘protecting life’, it’s about controlling womens’ bodies. It is medically confirmed that the child will not live. It will die shortly after birth, if not be stillborn. Still want to force women to give that birth, and emotionally torture them for deciding that they don’t want to go through that expense and heartbreak.

831 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:48:42am

re: #828 klys

Rant mode on: I come from a family of introverts, and am an introvert. I am also driven, a perfectionist, and occasionally socially awkward, because I don’t always relate well to people - but I can tell the instant I have made a misstep.

But over the past five years, my mother has decided that I probably have Asperger’s. No doctors involved, just she’s decided. And it drives me up a freaking wall. a) I feel it’s really disrespectful to the folks who do have it just to turn it into a way to describe being socially awkward and b) I really think someone would have bloody noticed before I was in graduate school, given the contact I did have with psychologists/therapists.

/rant mode off.

I diagnosed my husband as an asshole.

He actually tells doctors that.

LOL

832 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:48:59am

really

bbl

833 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:49:03am

re: #828 klys

Rant mode on: I come from a family of introverts, and am an introvert. I am also driven, a perfectionist, and occasionally socially awkward, because I don’t always relate well to people - but I can tell the instant I have made a misstep.

But over the past five years, my mother has decided that I probably have Asperger’s. No doctors involved, just she’s decided. And it drives me up a freaking wall. a) I feel it’s really disrespectful to the folks who do have it just to turn it into a way to describe being socially awkward and b) I really think someone would have bloody noticed before I was in graduate school, given the contact I did have with psychologists/therapists.

/rant mode off.

I don’t blame you for getting upset by that. Asperger’s as I am sure Gene and ProTardis as well as Anon is more than just being introverted. Hell I call myself an introverted who wants to be an extrovert. I want to be that guy who can strike up a conversation with a stranger and be talking to them by the end of the night like I’ve known them my whole life though I am something of an oddity in the Asperger’s community- humanties orientated and I like sports.

834 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:49:17am

re: #822 wrenchwench

Piling cruelty upon cruelty. These people are sick.

You know what is the most sick thing of all? That somebody is MAKING MONEY from “perinatal hospice care.”

835 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:50:14am

re: #834 Pie-onist Overlord

Had no idea there was such a thing.

836 blueraven  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:50:16am

re: #821 Killgore Trout

It’s still a very bad pick, especially for the DoJ which has a history of being overly politicized by political appointees.

Other than defending a killer, why is he a bad pick? He seems very qualified for the job.

837 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:50:46am

I am sure that Asperger’s Syndrome is more than just not being able to chitchat at cocktail parties.

838 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:51:05am

RWNJs want a waiting period to obtain a medical procedure, but no waiting period to obtain high capacity, semi-automatic weapons.

839 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:51:15am

re: #834 Pie-onist Overlord

You know what is the most sick thing of all? That somebody is MAKING MONEY from “perinatal hospice care.”

Or will be. No doubt a grant will be made, now that a need has been created.

She said there are no such perinatal hospice services in Alabama.

840 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:51:20am

This should come to the surprise of absolutely no one.
The bragging by conservatives regarding Texas’ recent economic growth?
Turns out that upon closer inspection it’s really not that impressive.

Oops: The Texas Miracle That Isn’t

Conservatives say the Lone Star state’s recent record of growth validates their economic agenda. That record crumbles upon inspection.

It’s hard to think of any two states more different than Texas and Vermont. For one, Texas has gushers of oil and gas, while Vermont has, well, maple syrup. As early as the 1940s, Texas surpassed Vermont in per capita income. Vermont had virtually nothing going for it—no energy resources except firewood, no industry except some struggling paper mills and failing dairies. By 1981, per capita income in Vermont had fallen to 17 percent below that of Texas. That year, the state’s largest city elected a self-described “democratic socialist,” Bernie Sanders, to be its mayor. Vermont, it might seem, was on the road to serfdom and inevitable failure.

But then a great reversal in the relative prosperity of the two states happened, as little Vermont started getting richer faster than big Texas. By 2001, Texas lost its lead over Vermont in per capita income. By 2012, despite its oil and gas boom and impressive job creation numbers, Texas was 4.3 percent poorer than Vermont in per capita income.

This is not an isolated example. Since the early 1980s, Texas has also been falling behind many other states in its income per person. In 1981, per capita income in Texas came to within 92 percent of that of Maryland; now Texans earn only 79 percent as much as Marylanders. In 1981, per capita income in Texas almost equaled that of Massachusetts; now Texans on average earn only about three-quarters of what residents of Massachusetts do. Relative to Connecticut, Texans have seen their per capita income slip from 82 percent to 71 percent.

841 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:52:15am

re: #838 Dr. Matt

RWNJs want a waiting period to obtain a medical procedure, but no waiting period to obtain high capacity, semi-automatic weapons.

A medical procedure that is safer and simpler the sooner it is done.

Evil bastards.

842 klys  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:52:43am

re: #838 Dr. Matt

RWNJs want a waiting period to obtain a medical procedure, but no waiting period to obtain high capacity, semi-automatic weapons.

Unless it’s a medical procedure *they* need, which is why the Canadian health care system is an abomination because all those people have to wait for elective medical procedures.

843 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:52:43am

re: #838 Dr. Matt

RWNJs want a waiting period to obtain a medical procedure, but no waiting period to obtain high capacity, semi-automatic weapons.

Yeah I don’t get that either.

844 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:53:06am

re: #805 Gus

If true, the Pope is missing the same point other people do.

“Separate but equal” isn’t equal.

845 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:53:12am

re: #841 wrenchwench

A medical procedure that is safer and simpler the sooner it is done.

Evil bastards.

Yep fucking A.

846 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:53:32am

re: #840 RadicalModerate

That’s because Vermont and Massachusetts don’t have poor Canadians sneaking across the border to steal services and tax dollars.

847 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:53:56am

re: #840 RadicalModerate

Reminds me of today’s Kathleen Parker column in the “liberal” Washington Post in which she adopts Jerry Brown as a “conservative” because he’s helped produce a budget surplus in California. There was something missing in the column, something about t-xes. But I’m sure it was just an oversight. //

848 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:54:01am
849 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:54:34am
850 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:56:16am

In which Pope Francis went from being called a Nazi to being called a Communist. Because people are stupid.

851 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:56:52am
852 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:57:37am

re: #844 Lidane

If true, the Pope is missing the same point other people do.

“Separate but equal” isn’t equal.

Civil unions for the CATHOLIC church would be a groundbreaking development.

853 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:58:45am

re: #844 Lidane

If true, the Pope is missing the same point other people do.

“Separate but equal” isn’t equal.

I don’t disagree but for the RCC which has historically opposed any kind of recognition for gay unions, this is a big development if true.

854 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:58:51am

Pope Francis isn’t going to turn the Catholic Church into the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence therefore I still have grievances.

855 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:59:32am

re: #842 klys

Unless it’s a medical procedure *they* need, which is why the Canadian health care system is an abomination because all those people have to wait for elective medical procedures.

I really, really enjoy hearing RWNJs carp about ‘rationing’ and ‘having to wait in line’ for medical procedures.

Motherfuckers, come down here and spend one day in the medical life of any of my family members. Shit’s already here, and has been for decades. The rationing just happens to be based on how wealthy you are rather than an even distribution of first-come, first-serve.

856 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 10:59:59am
857 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:00:04am

Doesn’t this resemble a famous Soviet propaganda poster?

858 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:00:44am

re: #854 Gus

Pope Francis isn’t going to turn the Catholic Church into the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence therefore I still have grievances.

We won’t recognize teh gayz when they marry, something something civil unions.

We will, however, spend a great deal of time and money protecting kid-touchers from justice.

859 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:00:47am

re: #844 Lidane

If true, the Pope is missing the same point other people do.

“Separate but equal” isn’t equal.

If you read his statements, he is making a very important distinction here. He is not opposed to same-sex unions under the eye of the law, affording all rights and privileges that “traditional” marriage has, just he doesn’t feel that the church should be obligated to recognize them.

Which is exactly what same-sex marriage proponents are advocating.

860 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:00:52am

re: #854 Gus

Pope Francis isn’t going to turn the Catholic Church into the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence therefore I still have grievances.

Behead those who oppose Fremen nunneries!

861 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:01:09am

re: #853 HappyWarrior

Yes, and if true the Opus Dei wing of the RCC is going to lose its shit.

862 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:01:13am

re: #854 Gus

Pope Francis isn’t going to turn the Catholic Church into the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence therefore I still have grievances.

I respect Francis and think he’s a nifty human being and I hope the reforms he’s making takes hold, but I do still have grievances with the Catholic church and, indeed, with his positions. This isn’t an incoherent position to take.

863 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:01:26am

re: #856 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Issa shows again why he shouldn’t be trusted with the committee chairmanship of anything.

864 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:01:39am

re: #857 Pie-onist Overlord

Doesn’t this resemble a famous Soviet propaganda poster?

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865 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:02:10am

re: #862 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I respect Francis and think he’s a nifty human being and I hope the reforms he’s making takes hold, but I do still have grievances with the Catholic church and, indeed, with his positions. This isn’t an incoherent position to take.

Right, this.

866 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:03:25am

re: #861 Bulworth

Yes, and if true the Opus Dei wing of the RCC is going to lose its shit.

I hope so. I mean I would love for him to come out for SSM but I do realize also that not only 20 years ago we had a Democratic president who was notorious for adulterous affairs sign DOMA into law.

867 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:03:43am

re: #864 Pie-onist Overlord

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Ha good eye.

868 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:04:31am

re: #857 Pie-onist Overlord

Doesn’t this resemble a famous Soviet propaganda poster?

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Is that Ted Nugent in the background on the left?

869 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:04:54am

re: #866 HappyWarrior

I hope so. I mean I would love for him to come out for SSM but I do realize also that not only 20 years ago we had a Democratic president who was notorious for adulterous affairs sign DOMA into law.

It’s almost like people that try to claim moral high ground in matters of love and marriage are despicable worms peddling giant bags full of horseshit.

870 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:05:00am

re: #857 Pie-onist Overlord

Doesn’t this resemble a famous Soviet propaganda poster?

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Image: kdgeorgerussianpropagandaleninpointing.jpg

871 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:05:30am

re: #869 GunstarGreen

It’s almost like people that try to claim moral high ground in matters of love and marriage are despicable worms peddling giant bags full of horseshit.

Yep.

872 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:06:19am

re: #868 RadicalModerate

Is that Ted Nugent in the background on the left?

No, that’s just some random guy.
But that’s Rep. Mike Lee peeking out under Ted’s armpit.

873 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:08:41am

re: #857 Pie-onist Overlord

Speaking of MAKEDCLISTEN, how is the Ted Cruz for President campaign going?

/

874 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:11:27am

re: #872 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, that’s just some random guy.
But that’s Rep. Mike Lee peeking out under Ted’s armpit.

Also, the flag on the far right is an Oath Keepers banner, which is about as bad-crazy as you can get.

Oath Keepers Rally Reveals Radical Politics of Group

875 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:13:00am

re: #857 Pie-onist Overlord

Doesn’t this resemble a famous Soviet propaganda poster?

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876 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:15:00am

re: #875 Dr Lizardo

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Kragar found it.

Srsly can you imagine the wingnut meme glee if Obama was photographed in that same pose?

877 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:15:25am

re: #874 RadicalModerate

Also, the flag on the far right is an Oath Keepers banner, which is about as bad-crazy as you can get.

Oath Keepers Rally Reveals Radical Politics of Group

I thought that might be what it was.

Some day, people will look back and say, ‘Why didn’t we see this coming?’ I mean the people who don’t already see it coming now.

878 Petero1818  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:16:09am

re: #844 Lidane

If true, the Pope is missing the same point other people do.

“Separate but equal” isn’t equal.

While I agree separate but equal is not equal I have never believed that the state can force a church to recognize same sex marriage within its religious definition or marriage. Makes no sense to have the state define marriage in the context of the church, just as it makes no sense to have the church define marriage in the context of the state. They are entirely separate issues as far as I am concerned. So I am ok with the Pope et al not wanting to marry gay people (I don’t like it, but view it as a debate within the 4 walls of the church. Dont like it form your own church).
Equal in law is the important battle, and that is why marriage and its definition according to the state must include same sex marriage. People speak of Marriage as an institution. I think that is absurd. Marriage is a concept that instiutions have codified in different ways. Within the Church there are rules around marriage. They are distinct from the rules around marriage that exist for the state. If someone says they are married, they may be more alligned with the civil definition, they may be more alligned with a religious one. But for the purposes of any state / civil / legal / federal / tax issue, the definition of marriage must be a civil definition free from any religious context whatsoever.

879 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:17:36am
880 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:18:14am

re: #878 Petero1818

While I agree separate but equal is not equal I have never believed that the state can force a church to recognize same sex marriage within its religious definition or marriage.

Has anyone?

881 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:18:52am

re: #878 Petero1818

The Church can grant or deny the Sacrament of Marriage to anyone it chooses, but this is not about the Church bestowing its blessing on a union, it is about recognizing basic human rights of shared property,adoption, inheritance and visitation.

882 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:19:25am

re: #879 Kragar

Lolwut.

883 Petero1818  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:19:56am

re: #881 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Church can grant or deny the Sacrament of Marriage to anyone it chooses, but this is not about the Church bestowing its blessing on a union, it is about recognizing basic human rights of shared property ,inheritance and visitation.

And I believe the Pope suggested that should be the case.

884 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:20:40am

re: #879 Kragar

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Yeah they’re sane.

885 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:20:56am

re: #879 Kragar

From the article, these two paragraphs are right next to each other:

“Muslims in the Obama White House,” wrote Feder, are the real threat to the U.S. because a “Muslim who takes his religion seriously must put loyalty to Dar al-Islam above allegiance to an infidel state.”

Furthermore, he said, the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” — the repressive anti-LGBT military law that forbade LGBT service members from serving openly — will do more to harm to the nation than any foreign regime.

The Derpness, it cannot be stopped, cannot be reasoned with, etc.

886 klys  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:20:58am

re: #880 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Has anyone?

There’s a lot of stupid people out there, yes.

Most of them use this as an argument for why the government can’t allow SSM.

Like I said, stupid.

887 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:21:39am

Ukraine is playing against the United States in an international friendly match with what many worry may be the final match for their national team:

888 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:22:20am

re: #876 Pie-onist Overlord

Kragar found it.

Srsly can you imagine the wingnut meme glee if Obama was photographed in that same pose?

Of course; the wingnuts would have a field day with that.

On the subject of Lenin, here’s a nice one.

From three-point land, it’s Lenin - he lines it up, he shoots…..he scores! Nothing but net!!

889 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:22:51am

re: #886 klys

There’s a lot of stupid people out there, yes.

Most of them use this as an argument for why the government can’t allow SSM.

Like I said, stupid.

Oh, right. I meant anyone on the pro-gay-marriage side.

890 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:23:17am

re: #828 klys

Rant mode on: I come from a family of introverts, and am an introvert. I am also driven, a perfectionist, and occasionally socially awkward, because I don’t always relate well to people - but I can tell the instant I have made a misstep.

But over the past five years, my mother has decided that I probably have Asperger’s. No doctors involved, just she’s decided. And it drives me up a freaking wall. a) I feel it’s really disrespectful to the folks who do have it just to turn it into a way to describe being socially awkward and b) I really think someone would have bloody noticed before I was in graduate school, given the contact I did have with psychologists/therapists.

/rant mode off.

We call that a “Drive-By Diagnosis”.

But the point I’d make is that there’s a reason they call it ‘Autistic Spectrum Disorder’ - it’s a spectrum. We humans LOVE our categories, but nature rarely provides such discrete groupings, so humans run the gamut from not even remotely autistic to severely autistic with every possible degree in between.

And even that’s an oversimplification, because it’s a two dimensional representation of a multidimensional phenomenon.

My suggestion is to nod and smile, and roll your eyes when she’s not looking.
///

891 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:23:30am
892 klys  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:24:13am

re: #889 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Oh, right. I meant anyone on the pro-gay-marriage side.

Fair enough. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone advocating it, but I hesitate to make a categorical statement saying “NEVER” because I believe there can be stupid people on this side too.

Who deserve to rightfully be smacked down because of it, but they probably do exist.

893 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:25:23am

Can we get this thread to 900+ comments? I think we can.

894 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:26:14am
895 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:26:59am

re: #893 Bulworth

Can we get this thread to 900+ comments? I think we can.

A CHALLENGER APPEARS!

896 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:27:43am

re: #894 Kragar

Schlafly applauded his remarks: “Very well stated Stan, thank you for being a voice of truth and sanity on the air.”

Truth and Sanity could not be reached for comment.

897 klys  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:27:48am

re: #890 GeneJockey

We call that a “Drive-By Diagnosis”.

But the point I’d make is that there’s a reason they call it ‘Autistic Spectrum Disorder’ - it’s a spectrum. We humans LOVE our categories, but nature rarely provides such discrete groupings, so humans run the gamut from not even remotely autistic to severely autistic with every possible degree in between.

And even that’s an oversimplification, because it’s a two dimensional representation of a multidimensional phenomenon.

My suggestion is to nod and smile, and roll your eyes when she’s not looking.
///

Totally fair and a good point on the spectrum issue.

We have had …discussions on this multiple times. If she can agree not to say it to my face, I can agree not to bring it up.

899 klys  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:28:38am

re: #898 Feline Fearless Leader

We have cookies - just 3 more comments!

Forget cookies, I want pie!

Where’s VB?

900 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:28:50am

re: #898 Feline Fearless Leader

I pushed the button. Someone’s on their way.

901 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:28:53am

JAMS IT IN!

HE’S ON FIRE!

902 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:28:56am

re: #891 Kragar

[Embedded content]

This contains a link to Cummings’s planned remarks.

903 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:29:44am

re: #902 wrenchwench

This contains a link to Cummings’s planned remarks.

[Embedded content]

What an asshole.

904 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:30:05am

re: #902 wrenchwench

I believe that’s a Roman Emperor gesture that Issa’s making.

905 Bulworth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:30:07am

OK, guys, there’s a new thread. Packing my gear and heading over there in a few.

906 Petero1818  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:30:24am

re: #892 klys

Fair enough. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone advocating it, but I hesitate to make a categorical statement saying “NEVER” because I believe there can be stupid people on this side too.

Who deserve to rightfully be smacked down because of it, but they probably do exist.

Well actually this is the crux of the thin edge of the wedge argument that religious instiutions, unicersities, affiliated hospitals etc.. use in the fight against provision of birth control under the ACA. State interference in the religious instiutions provision of services. The argument is that if the state can tell a religious university to provide birth control to unmarried women, it could also force clergy to marry same sex partners. To be honest, over time, I would expect the issue to be challenged through litigation by someone who wants rights recognized within their religious tradition.

I think the key issue is that the Pope may call it a civil union. Good for him. I have no problem with him believing it is not a marriage, as long as the state, the governent and the law recognize it as a marriage. I could care less what the catholic, Jewish, evengelical, muslim definitons or marriage are.

907 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:30:27am

I see a new thread has opened up. But we made it to 900 before that!!!

908 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:30:39am

re: #880 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Has anyone?

Yes.

Sen. Lee: Churches Should Not Be Forced to Perform Gay Marriages

Sen. Mike Lee says a bill he introduced would prevent the Internal Revenue Service from denying tax-exempt status to any person or group that refuses to perform gay marriages.

“What we’re talking about here is the freedom of religious belief, the freedom of a church, for example, to adhere to its own religious doctrine so that it cannot be discriminated against by the government,” the Utah Republican said in an interview with Newsmax*.

* I know Newsmax isn’t actually considered to be a reliable source, but since they are reporting on one of their own I figure the story is in fact accurate.

909 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:31:02am

re: #905 Bulworth

OK, guys, there’s a new thread. Packing my gear and heading over there in a few.

Be sure to carry enough water. The humor tends to be pretty dry.

910 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:31:46am

re: #907 GeneJockey

I see a new thread has opened up. But we made it to 900 before that!!!

Not really. I saw it at about 898. But we did get 900 before any comments on the new one.

What are the rules here anyway?

911 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:32:21am

re: #908 Bubblehead II

Yeah, like I said, I meant has any pro-gay-marriage person thought that chruches oughta be forced into it.

I’m sure there’s probably like, one guy, but in general, it’s a phantom position.

912 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:32:55am

re: #910 wrenchwench

Not really. I saw it at about 898. But we did get 900 before any comments on the new one.

What are the rules here anyway?

Not much further to 1,000.
We can do it!

913 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:33:10am

re: #522 freetoken

You didn’t notice that the last link was to the Springer journal?

Yeah, I meant, in the future, why link to the stupid, awful science writing, why not just link to the science? I don’t get what you feel is added by linking to the shitty stories.

914 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:36:10am

re: #897 klys

Totally fair and a good point on the spectrum issue.

We have had …discussions on this multiple times. If she can agree not to say it to my face, I can agree not to bring it up.

My wife and I used to get into these arguments discussions all the time. Shemajored in Psych and has always been a big fan of categories, while also deploring labeling (Riddle me THAT, Batman!). I, coming from a Biology background, see just how few instances of discrete categories really exist.

It turned out she has long suffered from an anxiety problem which went undiagnosed because she’s SO DAMNED GOOD at seeming ‘normal’. The categorization was really just about reducing her anxiety by convincing herself she knew what something unknown, like the older boy’s issues, really were.

915 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:36:51am

re: #910 wrenchwench

Not really. I saw it at about 898. But we did get 900 before any comments on the new one.

What are the rules here anyway?

“They’re more guidelines than actual rules.”

916 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:46:38am

re: #911 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yeah, like I said, I meant has any pro-gay-marriage person thought that chruches oughta be forced into it.

I’m sure there’s probably like, one guy, but in general, it’s a phantom position.

Didn’t find any cases here in the States and only one overseas.

Gay dads campaign for church wedding

BRITAIN’S first gay surrogate parents have launched a legal challenge to the Church of England’s ban on same-sex marriage.

Such a case wouldn’t even be heard here in the States due to the Church/State separation clause and is at best a very weak straw man argument.

917 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:49:47am

re: #916 Bubblehead II

Yeah, in the UK the COE is literally a state church, so it’s a totally different situation.

918 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:50:32am

re: #852 Gus

Civil unions for the CATHOLIC church would be a groundbreaking development.

True, but I don’t see it happening. If the Church was ever going to make any pronouncements about civil unions, it would be in context of some sort of “let them have civil unions while marriage is for God” nonsense. They’d never offer to recognize them as valid or anything.

919 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:55:43am

re: #859 RadicalModerate

If you read his statements, he is making a very important distinction here. He is not opposed to same-sex unions under the eye of the law, affording all rights and privileges that “traditional” marriage has, just he doesn’t feel that the church should be obligated to recognize them.

Which is exactly what same-sex marriage proponents are advocating.

What same sex marriage proponents are advocating is same sex MARRIAGE. Not civil unions that might function the same way. Civil unions aren’t equal.

There are no good reasons to deny civil marriage licenses and all the rights and benefits of marriage to LGBT couples. And there are no valid reasons why LGBT people should have to settle for civil unions or civil partnerships rather than being given the same marriage rights that straight couples have.

920 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 11:56:38am

stepping upstairs.

921 Lidane  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 12:01:14pm

re: #878 Petero1818

While I agree separate but equal is not equal I have never believed that the state can force a church to recognize same sex marriage within its religious definition or marriage. Makes no sense to have the state define marriage in the context of the church, just as it makes no sense to have the church define marriage in the context of the state. They are entirely separate issues as far as I am concerned.

I can’t think of anyone that has ever said that a church must be forced to perform same sex weddings if they don’t want to.

However, denying marriage licenses to LGBT couples on religious grounds is bullshit. Denying committed LGBT couples the same marriage rights and benefits that straight couples enjoy is bullshit.

But for the purposes of any state / civil / legal / federal / tax issue, the definition of marriage must be a civil definition free from any religious context whatsoever.

Which is exactly the point same-sex marriage supporters have been making for ages.

922 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 12:12:30pm

re: #908 Bubblehead II

Yes.

Sen. Lee: Churches Should Not Be Forced to Perform Gay Marriages

Sen. Mike Lee says a bill he introduced would prevent the Internal Revenue Service from denying tax-exempt status to any person or group that refuses to perform gay marriages.

“What we’re talking about here is the freedom of religious belief, the freedom of a church, for example, to adhere to its own religious doctrine so that it cannot be discriminated against by the government,” the Utah Republican said in an interview with Newsmax*.

* I know Newsmax isn’t actually considered to be a reliable source, but since they are reporting on one of their own I figure the story is in fact accurate.

We are dealing with pinheads who make no distinction between the sacrament of Holy matrimony (which a church may grant or deny as it wishes) and the legal status of marriage, which the law is finally coming to recognize as a universal right that cannot be denied based on gender or race.

923 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 12:13:22pm

re: #916 Bubblehead II

Didn’t find any cases here in the States and only one overseas.

Gay dads campaign for church wedding

BRITAIN’S first gay surrogate parents have launched a legal challenge to the Church of England’s ban on same-sex marriage.

Such a case wouldn’t even be heard here in the States due to the Church/State separation clause and is at best a very weak straw man argument.

In England, we are also dealing with an established state church, one which is nominally headed by the reigning Monarch.

924 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 12:15:15pm

re: #923 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In England, we are also dealing with an established state church, one which is nominally headed by the reigning Monarch.

EXACTLY! It’s the diametric opposite of the separation of Church and State, so for the State’s Church to refuse to sanctify what the State has deemed legal seems wrong, somehow.

925 palomino  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:03:46pm

re: #782 Killgore Trout

It’s been some years since I revisited the case but there’s little doubt he killed a police officer but he wrote a book of poetry so a lot of people like him. Killing police is illegal regardless of race or poetry publication. Evidence still indicates he’s guilty of murder.

So he doesn’t deserve a good defense?


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