Anchor Spokesmodels Rebel at Russia Today: “It Makes Me Feel Sick That I Worked There”

“It’s not a sound news organization”
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There’s something of a mini-rebellion of news anchors (an anchor putsch) going on at Russia Today, the propaganda channel operated by the Kremlin. First 9/11 Truther Abby Martin made negative remarks about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and now another anchor, Liz Wahl, has gone further and resigned on air.

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I’m cynical enough, of course, to suspect that the whole thing is just another bit of propaganda theater from a regime known for it. But Wahl has also given an interview to the Daily Beast’s James Kirchick, with some extremely direct statements about the true mission and purpose of her erstwhile employer: Exclusive: RT Today Anchor Liz Wahl Explains Why She Quit.

“In order to succeed there you don’t question,” she adds. “In a way you kind of suppress any concerns that you have and play the game.”

And that game is spewing anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Russian propaganda, 24-7. “People don’t want to speak up so they won’t be that person who speaks out, who’s ruffling feathers, that’s something that I thought of, ‘just shut your mouth,’ that’s a lot of how it goes. The status quo remains that way because nobody wants to speak up for fear of the inconvenience or what it will cause you in your future.”

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Having worked on the inside, Wahl understands perfectly RT’s marketing strategy, which is to appeal to a young, Western demographic cynical about mainstream media outlets and traditional political authority. “I think some of them are kind of like this hipster generation, they just kind of think it’s cool to question authority,” she says. But what the network’s many young viewers don’t understand, or refuse to understand, is that the channel’s message emanates from the most authoritarian of sources: the Kremlin. “I don’t think it’s a service to anybody to push a narrative that’s not true or actively twist the truth.”

“It actually makes me feel sick that I worked there,” Wahl says. “It’s not a sound news organization, not when your agenda is making America look bad.”

Again my cynical side rears its sarcastic head and tells me that Liz Wahl’s sudden epiphany seems to come at a very convenient moment, after years of obediently pushing the Kremlin line, when Russian propaganda is at a height not seen since the Cold War. But still, this is a pretty extraordinary statement regardless; she’s calling out Russia Today for exactly what’s been obvious to many observers for years, that it’s a pure propaganda outlet that exists to undermine the US on every level.

And that particular point of view is one that’s vehemently denied by … the Mighty Glenn Greenwald, who takes every opportunity to defend Russia Today against precisely this kind of criticism, and who has himself appeared on Russia Today many times.

You can expect a chorus of cheers from the Greenwald personality cult over this, but will any of them also have the honesty to admit that what Liz Wahl said is the simple truth? Or will it be absurd bogus equivalence… like this:

UPDATE at 3/5/14 5:30:46 pm

Next act in the play; Russia Today’s response:

Ms. Wahl’s resignation comes on the heels of her colleague Abby Martin’s recent comments in which she voiced her disagreement with certain policies of the Russian government and asserted her editorial independence. The difference is, Ms. Martin spoke in the context of her own talk show, to the viewers who have been tuning in for years to hear her opinions on current events - the opinions that most media did not care about until two days ago. For years, Ms. Martin has been speaking out against US military intervention, only to be ignored by the mainstream news outlets - but with that one comment, branded as an act of defiance, she became an overnight sensation. It is a tempting example to follow.

When a journalist disagrees with the editorial position of his or her organization, the usual course of action is to address those grievances with the editor, and, if they cannot be resolved, to quit like a professional. But when someone makes a big public show of a personal decision, it is nothing more than a self-promotional stunt.

We wish Liz the best of luck on her chosen path.

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1 StephenMeansMe  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:16:31pm

“No US News anchors resigned.” Yeah dudebro, that’s because (by law) we don’t have any news orgs run from or funded by the White House or the State Department. Russia Today is a different story. Derp derp de-de-derp.

2 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:17:02pm

Like I said this morning. They’re always arguing through the Iraq war. It’s like the Iraq War has become a logical fallacy of sorts. Noun, verb, Iraq war.

3 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:17:11pm

“I can not be part of a network that whitewashes the actions Putin.”

I bet we won’t see any of the self-righteous conspiracy theorists at The Intercept resigning over their plutocrat boss funding coups.


PS Funny how Abby Martin opposes violence, yet poses with violent weapons in a sexualized photo spread.

4 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:20:28pm

re: #3 DKoch

Welcome, hatchling.

5 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:21:17pm

re: #2 Gus

Like I said this morning. They’re always arguing through the Iraq war. It’s like the Iraq War has become a logical fallacy of sorts. Noun, verb, Iraq war.

Yep, the moonbats use that when they say we should shut up about what Russia is doing.

6 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:22:21pm

9/11 IRAQ CHANGED EVERYTHING!!1!

7 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:22:42pm
8 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:23:09pm

re: #5 Varek Raith

Yep, the moonbats use that when they say we should shut up about what Russia is doing.

“No American anchor ever resigned over the Iraq war. Your argument is invalid!”

9 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:23:26pm

re: #7 Gus

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10 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:23:33pm

re: #5 Varek Raith

Yep, the moonbats use that when they say we should shut up about what Russia is doing.

Yeah that one is as annoying as Obama is weak because he hasn’t ordered a bombing of Moscow.

11 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:23:45pm

re: #9 Varek Raith

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Nice.

12 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:25:46pm

While what Wahl said about RT and its mission has long been obvious to anyone with more than two functioning brain cells, I still can’t help but feel a little schadenfreude about the “why” that led to her very public resignation.

To Liz Wahl, I say this: when you run with the bulls, don’t be surprised if you eventually get the horns.

13 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:27:02pm
Ms. Wahl’s resignation comes on the heels of her colleague Abby Martin’s recent comments in which she voiced her disagreement with certain policies of the Russian government and asserted her editorial independence. The difference is, Ms. Martin spoke in the context of her own talk show, to the viewers who have been tuning in for years to hear her opinions on current events - the opinions that most media did not care about until two days ago. For years, Ms. Martin has been speaking out against US military intervention, only to be ignored by the mainstream news outlets - but with that one comment, branded as an act of defiance, she became an overnight sensation. It is a tempting example to follow.

When a journalist disagrees with the editorial position of his or her organization, the usual course of action is to address those grievances with the editor, and, if they cannot be resolved, to quit like a professional. But when someone makes a big public show of a personal decision, it is nothing more than a self-promotional stunt.

We wish Liz the best of luck on her chosen path.

In other words, fuck you.

14 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:27:50pm
During a live broadcast on Wednesday, RT America presenter Liz Wahl announced she was stepping down, citing her disagreements with the network’s editorial policy. RT issued a statement following her resignation.

Ms. Wahl’s resignation comes on the heels of her colleague Abby Martin’s recent comments in which she voiced her disagreement with certain policies of the Russian government and asserted her editorial independence. The difference is, Ms. Martin spoke in the context of her own talk show, to the viewers who have been tuning in for years to hear her opinions on current events - the opinions that most media did not care about until two days ago. For years, Ms. Martin has been speaking out against US military intervention, only to be ignored by the mainstream news outlets - but with that one comment, branded as an act of defiance, she became an overnight sensation. It is a tempting example to follow.

When a journalist disagrees with the editorial position of his or her organization, the usual course of action is to address those grievances with the editor, and, if they cannot be resolved, to quit like a professional. But when someone makes a big public show of a personal decision, it is nothing more than a self-promotional stunt.

We wish Liz the best of luck on her chosen path.

— Russia Today

15 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:27:54pm

Wahl is on CNN right now being interviewed by Anderson Cooper, and is explaining how Russia Today exerted control over the content of their news reporting.

Quote: “RT today is not about dispensing the truth, but is about forwarding the Putin agenda”

16 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:27:57pm

“It’s not a sound news organization, not when your agenda is making America look bad.”


She’s worked there for years, and she just figured this out?

Sounds moar like a career move. Now she can get a gig on a news channel people actual watch.

17 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:28:05pm

re: #2 Gus

Like I said this morning. They’re always arguing through the Iraq war. It’s like the Iraq War has become a logical fallacy of sorts. Noun, verb, Iraq war.

Gus, I responded to you on the previous thread with this. It appears these people all have some kind of connection, tenuous or not.

Have you looked at Amber Lyon’s twitter acct lately?

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Lyon may be indulging in her favorite drug too much these days.

“On September 5, 2012 with the help of journalist Glenn Greenwald, Lyon exposed that CNN International never aired her documentary, iRevolution, on the Bahrain uprising. In an article by Greenwald in The Guardian newspaper, Lyon accuses the network of censoring the documentary because the Bahrain regime is a paying customer at the network. [35] The article also exposes that the government of Bahrain, as well as other governments throughout the world, are paying CNN for special content casting their countries in a positive light.[18][36]

“On September 29, 2012, Lyon appeared on the Infowars program. She described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news.[37] She said that Bahrain paid CNN for positive news coverage.[38] Lyon said that Kazakhstan and Georgia also paid for positive coverage by CNN.[39]

“In March 2013, a report from the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency said the “Slovak main news website” reported Lyon claiming to have received orders from CNN to report selectively and falsely in order to sway public opinion in favor of direct American aggression against Iran and Syria, and that this was common practice at CNN.”[40]

18 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:28:10pm

Darn it. I haz slow today.

19 StephenMeansMe  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:28:22pm
“I just think it’s absurd that we’re just a few blocks away from the White House and this is all able to go along,” Wahl said.

That’s called “freedom of speech” and “freedom of the press,” unless I missed my high school social studies class. What, did she expect the FBI to come in with gag orders or something?

20 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:30:17pm

So the dudebros are going to throw this gal down the memory hole?

21 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:30:33pm

re: #20 b.d.

So the dudebros are going to throw this gal down the memory hole

Ayep.

22 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:31:32pm

“”There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and there is no Izvestiya in Pravda”” and there is no honesty at RT.

23 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:31:49pm

I Don’t Believe The Liberal Media

that implies that there are some media that you are naive enough to believe

24 darthstar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:31:55pm
25 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:32:34pm

re: #22 Political Atheist

“”There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and there is no Izvestiya in Pravda”” and there is no honesty at RT.

Maybe that’s a little cold war dated.

26 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:32:58pm

“Wahl is on CNN right now being interviewed by Anderson Cooper, and is explaining how Russia Today exerted control over the content of their news reporting.”

Nailed it. Now she’ll be feted by the media, she may even get on the Sunday shows. It was a cynical career move, wrapped in faux outrage.

I mean, please, why wasn’t she outraged when Putin invaded Georgia,

27 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:33:59pm

re: #26 DKoch

“Wahl is on CNN right now being interviewed by Anderson Cooper, and is explaining how Russia Today exerted control over the content of their news reporting.”

Nailed it. Now she’ll be feted by the media, she may even get on the Sunday shows. It was a cynical career move, wrapped in faux outrage.

I mean, please, why wasn’t she outraged when Putin invaded Georgia,

Oranges, that’s why!
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28 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:35:18pm

Could be a cynical career move, could also be kabuki theater.

29 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:35:29pm

re: #26 DKoch

“Wahl is on CNN right now being interviewed by Anderson Cooper, and is explaining how Russia Today exerted control over the content of their news reporting.”

Nailed it. Now she’ll be feted by the media, she may even get on the Sunday shows. It was a cynical career move, wrapped in faux outrage.

I mean, please, why wasn’t she outraged when Putin invaded Georgia,

Liz Wahl sold out her real beliefs and the truth to get a job in the corporate lapdog media

30 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:36:09pm

Option B: just another grifter.

31 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:36:15pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Could be a cynical career move, could also be kabuki theater.

Could be a last straw. Better a late flounce than no flounce at all.

32 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:36:33pm

Wahl may have gotten advice on making a career move (perhaps she has already talked herself into a new job), but she is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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33 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:36:47pm

re: #20 b.d.

So the dudebros are going to throw this gal down the memory hole

You know they will, right after they get through denouncing her as one of President Obama’s lackeys.

34 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:37:09pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Could be a cynical career move, could also be kabuki theater.

Noh!

35 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:37:15pm

re: #1 StephenMeansMe

“No US News anchors resigned.” Yeah dudebro, that’s because (by law) we don’t have any news orgs run from or funded by the White House or the State Department. Russia Today is a different story. Derp derp de-de-derp.

The Broadcasting Board of Governors, which runs the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, etc. Half the members are appointed by the President and the Sec State sits on the board. It’s true that the BBG and its networks are structurally well insulated from undue political pressure from a single party, however your categorical denial is just flat wrong.

36 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:37:20pm

So it took the invasion of the Ukraine to convince Ms. Wahl? Well, good for her for resigning, I guess, but why stay there in the first place?

I mean, it’s a paying gig and all, but it always had shit all over it.

37 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:37:40pm

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

Wahl may have gotten advice on making a career move (perhaps she has already talked herself into a new job), but she is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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Unless some chemtrails videos surface, she’s points ahead of Abbyface.

38 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:38:03pm
39 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:40:21pm

re: #20 b.d.

So the dudebros are going to throw this gal down the memory hole

Personally, I wouldn’t mind it if she were to land at another major news network not named FoxNews. From listening to her speaking with Cooper, she does come across as a bright person.
It may be a situation of her Russian heritage and RT’s willingness to give her a regular paycheck in a very competitive marketplace that swayed her to originally work for them. Yes, she did toe the party line, from what appears to be significant pressure from her employer. Being early in her career, she may have seen it as a no-win situation that she had to endure, until it reached a point of becoming unbearable.

40 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:41:31pm
41 ericblair  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:41:55pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Could be a cynical career move, could also be kabuki theater.

Could also be just what it looks like. That’s sometimes the easiest thing to overlook.

42 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:42:43pm

Just one question. Was this broadcast live or was it prerecorded?

Live I could/might accept. Prerecorded, not so much.

43 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:43:04pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

The Broadcasting Board of Governors, who runs the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, etc. Half the members are appointed by the President and the Sec State sits on the board. It’s true that the BBG and its networks are structurally well insulated from undue political pressure from a single party, however your categorical denial is just flat wrong.

True. But call me weird but being that I’m an American, I tend to trust my elected officials over those from Kremlin run Russia. I know it’s weird but I choose sides and I pick the USA over Russia and that includes RFE and VOA over Russia Today any day. I’m weird like that.

44 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:43:14pm

re: #40 Gus

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Obviously that means Roberts pals around with mass murderers using half term governor logic.

45 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:43:40pm

re: #41 ericblair

Yes, it could. But it never hurts to have a healthy dose of skepticism when it comes to Russian propaganda.

46 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:43:46pm

This is the fucking state of journalism in the US.

And the quality of “journalists” that are out there.

I liked it much better when people who reported news were called “reporters’, there were no “spokesmodels” (of either sex), and the news wasn’t something rank amateurs indulged themselves in, throwing objectivity to the winds and inserting their own opinions as fact.

47 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:44:26pm

Raw Story is now trash?

48 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:44:47pm

re: #39 RadicalModerate

Personally, I wouldn’t mind it if she were to land at another major news network not named FoxNews. From listening to her speaking with Cooper, she does come across as a bright person.
It may be a situation of her Russian heritage and RT’s willingness to give her a regular paycheck in a very competitive marketplace that swayed her to originally work for them. Yes, she did toe the party line, from what appears to be significant pressure from her employer. Being early in her career, she may have seen it as a no-win situation that she had to endure, until it reached a point of becoming unbearable.

Oh, please, stop apologizing for this careerist bum.

49 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:45:03pm

re: #40 Gus

Chief Justice Roberts had defended a man who murdered 8 people (via Sen. Harkin). #inners

HE’S PROBABLY THE GUY WHO MADE HIM VOTE FOR OBAMACARE

50 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:45:26pm

re: #42 Bubblehead II

Just one question. Was this broadcast live or was it prerecorded?

Live I could/might accept. Prerecorded, not so much.

Russia Today newscasts are usually broadcast live.

51 StephenMeansMe  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:45:48pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

The Broadcasting Board of Governors, who runs the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, etc. Half the members are appointed by the President and the Sec State sits on the board. It’s true that the BBG and its networks are structurally well insulated from undue political pressure from a single party, however your categorical denial is just flat wrong.

We don’t (can’t?) get them here, so they don’t have an impact on American viewers. Also I’m pretty sure they’re upfront about what they are, whereas RT plays coy.

But I suppose my statement could be sharpened for accuracy, yeah.

52 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:45:51pm

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

This is the fucking state of journalism in the US.

And the quality of “journalists” that are out there.

I liked it much better when people who reported news were called “reporters’, there were no “spokesmodels” (of either sex), and the news wasn’t something rank amateurs indulged themselves in, throwing objectivity to the winds and inserting their own opinions as fact.

Admit it—you lusted after Cronkite’s mustache.

53 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:46:01pm

Oddly enough I never see any conspiracy lunacy on RFE or VOA either. Weird man.

54 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:46:53pm

re: #39 RadicalModerate

Personally, I wouldn’t mind it if she were to land at another major news network not named FoxNews. From listening to her speaking with Cooper, she does come across as a bright person.
It may be a situation of her Russian heritage and RT’s willingness to give her a regular paycheck in a very competitive marketplace that swayed her to originally work for them. Yes, she did toe the party line, from what appears to be significant pressure from her employer. Being early in her career, she may have seen it as a no-win situation that she had to endure, until it reached a point of becoming unbearable.

choose one:

1) don’t work in your chosen field
2) work your way up from assistant weatherperson on a local affiliate
3) cheerfully repeat lies

55 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:47:31pm

re: #40 Gus

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Yeah, Roberts worked on John Ferguson’s death penalty case. How exactly are the man’s private practice clients relevant to anything? He also did some good work on gay rights.

As part of Hogan & Hartson’s pro bono work, he worked behind the scenes for gay rights advocates, reviewing filings and preparing arguments for the Supreme Court case Romer v. Evans (1996), which was described in 2005 as “the movement’s most important legal victory”.

56 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:47:39pm

re: #30 Gus

Option B: just another grifter.

In the end it doesn’t really matter. I’m happy to see a little setback for Putin even if it’s minor. I’m happy she did this and wish her all the best. I hope her realization is permanent but it’s entirely possible she’s just a moron. I’m glad she quit but I would have never taken her seriously before and I’m not going to become a fan.

57 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:48:17pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, Roberts worked on John Ferguson’s death penalty case. How exactly are the man’s private practice clients relevant to anything? He also did some good work on gay rights.

He was pointing out the double standard.

58 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:48:40pm

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

This is the fucking state of journalism in the US.

And the quality of “journalists” that are out there.

I liked it much better when people who reported news were called “reporters’, there were no “spokesmodels” (of either sex), and the news wasn’t something rank amateurs indulged themselves in, throwing objectivity to the winds and inserting their own opinions as fact.

Those days are long gone.

59 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:48:55pm

Just checking out Getty Images’s new free embed feature:

OK, never mind. Still needs some work to integrate it here.

60 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:49:50pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Just checking out Getty Images’s new free embed feature:

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Opened a new window. Came back and the pic was there.

61 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:49:55pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, Roberts worked on John Ferguson’s death penalty case. How exactly are the man’s private practice clients relevant to anything? He also did some good work on gay rights.

He’s pointing out the hypocrisy of saying that the recently rejected Obama Civil Rights commission member nominee should have been rejected because said individual once acted as Mumia Al-Jamal’s lawyer by pointing out the CJ of SCOTUS did the same thing.

62 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:49:59pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Just checking out Getty Images’s new free embed feature:

Getty Image

He should see a doctor about that mole.

63 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:50:11pm

re: #57 Varek Raith

He was pointing out the double standard.

Ayep. From this morning.

64 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:50:26pm
65 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:50:27pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

The Broadcasting Board of Governors, who runs the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, etc. Half the members are appointed by the President and the Sec State sits on the board. It’s true that the BBG and its networks are structurally well insulated from undue political pressure from a single party, however your categorical denial is just flat wrong.

I’m guessing that the OP meant “broadcasting for US domestic consumption”, which IIRC, the BBG media outlets are prohibited from doing by US law.

66 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:50:51pm

re: #57 Varek Raith

He was pointing out the double standard.

What double standard? Are we really expecting lawyers now to be paragons of idealism? He and his firm almost certainly took the case pro bono to try and boost their stature.

67 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:51:06pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, Roberts worked on John Ferguson’s death penalty case. How exactly are the man’s private practice clients relevant to anything? He also did some good work on gay rights.

‘Cause he did it pro bono, man, so he really wanted to do it!

68 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:51:15pm

re: #42 Bubblehead II

Just one question. Was this broadcast live or was it prerecorded?

Live I could/might accept. Prerecorded, not so much.

This says it was live
U.S. Anchor of ‘Russia Today’ Quits During Live Broadcast as Means of Protest Against Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine

69 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:51:47pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

He’s pointing out the hypocrisy of saying that the recently rejected Obama Civil Rights commission member nominee should have been rejected because said individual once acted as Mumia Al-Jamal’s lawyer by pointing out the CJ of SCOTUS did the same thing.

Ah, now that makes sense. Guilt by client association is a bullshit charge for any Justice to make.

70 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:52:27pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

What double standard? Are we really expecting lawyers now to be paragons of idealism? He and his firm almost certainly took the case pro bono to try and boost their stature.

Senate rejects Obama appointment of Debo Adegbile to top civil rights post

Several Senate Democrats joined with Republicans in voting against Debo Adegbile, whose nomination was adamantly and vocally opposed by conservatives due to his participation in an appeal filed on behalf of Mumia Abu-Jamal — an internationally-known prisoner convicted of the 1981 murder of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner.

71 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:52:52pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

This says it was live
U.S. Anchor of ‘Russia Today’ Quits During Live Broadcast as Means of Protest Against Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine

“In Russia Today, anchor is slipping you.”

72 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:53:02pm

Make sense now?

73 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:53:17pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

Ah, now that makes sense. Guilt by client association is a bullshit charge for any Justice to make.

I don’t think Roberts attacked the guy. Gus is criticizing those in the Senate and outside of it who used that as a rationale for why the person should have been rejected and I agree it’s stupid. Everyone’s entitled to a defense for a reason. John Adams defended the Boston Massacre defendants in a great example.

74 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:53:21pm

re: #60 Gus

Opened a new window. Came back and the pic was there.

Yeah, needs a little work to get them into comments. I’ll have something soon.

This is a great, great new feature for blogs like LGF - it lets us post high quality current news photos without violating copyrights or paying exorbitant fees.

75 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:54:08pm

Please retweet!

76 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:54:17pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Yeah, needs a little work to get them into comments. I’ll have something soon.

This is a great, great new feature for blogs like LGF - it lets us post high quality current news photos without violating copyrights or paying exorbitant fees.

At that size, the kittens will be terrifying.

77 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:54:24pm
78 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:54:36pm

re: #70 Gus

Senate rejects Obama appointment of Debo Adegbile to top civil rights post

Several Senate Democrats joined with Republicans in voting against Debo Adegbile, whose nomination was adamantly and vocally opposed by conservatives due to his participation in an appeal filed on behalf of Mumia Abu-Jamal — an internationally-known prisoner convicted of the 1981 murder of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner.

Thanks!

79 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:54:48pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Just checking out Getty Images’s new free embed feature:

OK, never mind. Still needs some work to integrate it here.

Weren’t the Getty folks the guys who went hardest on people using their images?

80 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:55:51pm

So first MMFA hat tips me, then Oliver Willis retweets it. I’m getting an insane amount of stuff on twitter.

81 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:56:07pm

re: #79 b.d.

Weren’t the Getty folks the guys who went hardest on people using their images?

Yes, they used to be pretty hard core about enforcement. Apparently they’re realizing they can’t win with that approach in the long run.

82 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:56:21pm

Firstlook Media needs to hire Liz Whal!!

//

It’s not like they are overrun with women in that severely diverse group.

83 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:56:26pm

re: #43 Gus

True. But call me weird but being that I’m an American, I tend to trust my elected officials over those from Kremlin run Russia. I know it’s weird but I choose sides and I pick the USA over Russia and that includes RFE and VOA over Russia Today any day. I’m weird like that.

Sure, but don’t pretend that the US government doesn’t try to broadcast its POV. The US run broadcasters’ track records are better, undeniably, but saying your opinion is purely formed by your identity smacks of kneejerk jingoism.

84 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:56:49pm

re: #80 Kragar

So first MMFA hat tips me, then Oliver Willis retweets it. I’m getting an insane amount of stuff on twitter.

Watch out if Oliver realizes you hang out at LGF. He still hates my guts.

85 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:57:07pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

Sure, but don’t pretend that the US government doesn’t try to broadcast its POV. The US run broadcasters’ track records are better, undeniably, but saying your opinion is purely formed by your identity smacks of kneejerk jingoism.

Perhaps, but I never made any bones about not being a jingoist.

86 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:57:21pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

This says it was live
U.S. Anchor of ‘Russia Today’ Quits During Live Broadcast as Means of Protest Against Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine

If it wasn’t live nobody would have ever seen it.

87 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:57:56pm

President Obama, at Democratic National Committee fundraiser in Boston, warns Democrats could get ‘walloped’ again in midterm elections if there is low Democratic turnout

‘could’? ‘if’?

88 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:59:33pm

From Buzzfeed: got @AbbyMartin on the phone re: @lizwahl resignation. she says she has no plans to do the same “at this moment”
———————————————————————————————————————————-
Well, after all, Abby has “editorial independence”, so it’s no problem being paid from a homophobic regime, that murders reporters, poisons
political opponents, and invades neighboring countries.

89 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:00:09pm

Will this never end?

Brooklyn Rabbi, Teacher Charged With Distributing Child Pornography

newyork.cbslocal.com

90 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:01:07pm

Russia has the FSB. The USA has the NSA. Guess what? I side with the NSA.

91 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:01:13pm

Oh look…

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:01:16pm

I have an update on my Jack Conway page

93 Skip Intro  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:02:22pm

re: #91 Gus

Oh look…

[Embedded content]

So, does he use shoe polish or hair dye?

94 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:02:49pm

Neocon cabal claims Wahl.
— Max Blumenthal

95 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:02:58pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Watch out if Oliver realizes you hang out at LGF. He still hates my guts.

My nick is cleverly disguised with LGF in the handle

96 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:03:09pm
97 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:03:39pm

re: #91 Gus

Oh look…

[Embedded content]

Was that the Liz Wahl interview w/Seagal?

98 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:03:48pm

NEOCONS!

99 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:03:54pm

re: #91 Gus

Oh look…

[Embedded content]

I eagerly await Jean Claude Van Damme’s analysis on Venezuela.

100 GlutenFreeJesus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:04:00pm
When a journalist disagrees with the editorial position of his or her organization, the usual course of action is to address those grievances with the editor, and, if they cannot be resolved, to quit like a professional. But when someone makes a big public show of a personal decision, it is nothing more than a self-promotional stunt.

*coughSNOWDENcough*

101 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:04:18pm

Abby Martin sure know how to display her assets

102 Skip Intro  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:04:44pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

OK, so I have to ask if RT is an actual cable channel. I’ve got something like 800 of them with Directv, but I’ve never seen this one.

103 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:05:05pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

So, does he use shoe polish or hair dye?

It’s a floor shoe polish AND a dessert topping hair dye!

104 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:05:34pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

OK, so I have to ask if RT is an actual cable channel. I’ve got something like 800 of them with Directv, but I’ve never seen this one.

I think they have a print publication that I see in the Post every so often. I may be wrong though.

105 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:05:47pm

re: #86 goddamnedfrank

If it wasn’t live nobody would have ever seen it.

Good point

106 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:05:52pm
107 Skip Intro  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:05:54pm

re: #101 DKoch

She looks bigger than an 00 cup to me.

108 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:06:02pm

re: #54 dog philosopher

choose one:

1) don’t work in your chosen field
2) work your way up from assistant weatherperson on a local affiliate
3) cheerfully repeat lies

From her LinkedIn bio, it appears that she actually was doing #2 - working in production for several news stations (including an internship with Fox) and working in Saipan as well as filing reports for CNN International.

109 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:06:15pm

re: #103 GeneJockey

It’s a floor shoe polish AND a dessert topping hair dye!

And then there’s Donald Trump’s hair which is a urine drenched rodent that his driver ran over.

110 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:06:24pm
111 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:06:25pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

OK, so I have to ask if RT is an actual cable channel. I’ve got something like 800 of them with Directv, but I’ve never seen this one.

Yes, it’s carried by quite a few cable channels in the US, but not all.

112 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:06:51pm

Dudebros are angry at Liz Wahl.

113 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:07:49pm

re: #107 Skip Intro

She looks bigger than an 00 cup to me.

That took me a minute.

114 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:07:58pm

re: #91 Gus

Oh look…

[Embedded content]

OMG… He’s becoming a Klingon…

RBS

115 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:08:14pm

re: #80 Kragar

So first MMFA hat tips me, then Oliver Willis retweets it. I’m getting an insane amount of stuff on twitter.

Ah, so that’s why you’re being swarmed by the knuckle draggers.

116 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:08:37pm

re: #100 GlutenFreeJesus

*coughSNOWDENcough*

Well, that does seem to be the tactic employed by the dudebro/dudesis these days, doesn’t it?

You’d think they didn’t have their whole life to get things done. Got to have it now, do it now—no time to wait. Trashy, flashy impatience, I-want-it-now syndrome. The age of instant. Gratification or anything else.

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:09:04pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

OK, so I have to ask if RT is an actual cable channel. I’ve got something like 800 of them with Directv, but I’ve never seen this one.

DirecTV doesn’t carry it.

118 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:09:07pm

re: #114 RealityBasedSteve

OMG… He’s becoming a Klingon…

[Embedded image]

RBS

I was actually focused on the bolded part:

Face time for Seagal
Neocon cabal claims Wahl
Keepin’ em honest

119 Skip Intro  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:10:01pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

DirecTV doesn’t carry it.

That’s surprising, considering they carry the Ted Nugent channel and the Sarah Palin channel.

120 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:10:26pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

And then there’s Donald Trump’s hair which is a urine drenched rodent that his driver ran over.

Somebody once posted an analysis of Trump’s combover, based on a picture of the top of his head when a bunch of flashes went off. It’s a two-layer, bidirectional combover. First, there’s the bottom layer going across, over which is laid a second bit coming from behind. It creates a cross-hatched look in the picture.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:11:17pm

re: #119 Skip Intro

That’s surprising, considering they carry the Ted Nugent channel and the Sarah Palin channel.

True that.
There’s actually a FB page “DirecTV needs RT”. It’s rather amusing, in a sad way.
facebook.com

122 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:11:58pm
123 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:12:04pm

re: #115 Gus

Ah, so that’s why you’re being swarmed by the knuckle draggers.

Yeah.

124 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:12:11pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

OK, so I have to ask if RT is an actual cable channel. I’ve got something like 800 of them with Directv, but I’ve never seen this one.

Yes. And it reaches a lot of people.

On the Kremlin’s Overseas Propaganda News Channel, Putin Really Rules

businessweek.com

125 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:12:13pm
126 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:12:40pm
127 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:12:49pm

re: #112 Gus

Link or it didn’t happen

128 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:14:01pm

re: #126 Gus

[Embedded content]

Hannity should ride without a helmet. In traffic. A lot.

129 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:14:12pm

re: #123 Kragar

Yeah.

How is CNN getting the scoop interviews with the RT folks?

130 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:15:13pm

re: #129 b.d.

How is CNN getting the scoop interviews with the RT folks?

Well, Piers did interview Alex Jones so there is that.

131 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:15:15pm

re: #129 b.d.

How is CNN getting the scoop interviews with the RT folks?

Probably had their resumes on file already

132 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:15:40pm

re: #131 Kragar

Probably had their resumes on file already

Binders full.

133 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:16:15pm

re: #125 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Well that kinda sorta thing is in the Constitution and a cornerstone of how things work in a democratic society. I mean even the Nuremberg defendants got attorneys which they should have.

134 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:16:50pm

re: #26 DKoch

I mean, please, why wasn’t she outraged when Putin invaded Georgia,

TBF, the Russian invasion of Georgia occurred in 2008. She’s worked there apparently 2.5 years.

135 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:17:03pm

Maybe Alec Baldwin can make a come-back with a exclusive show on RT

136 StephenMeansMe  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:17:22pm

re: #134 Rev_Arthur_Belling

TBF, the Russian invasion of Georgia occurred in 2008. She’s worked there apparently 2.5 years.

Which makes it a bit weirder that she joined after presumably knowing that.

137 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:17:55pm

OK, I’ll admit it, ignoring the stupid music, I kind of want to see the new Tom Cruise movie

Youtube Video

138 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:18:12pm

re: #135 DKoch

Maybe Alec Baldwin can make a come-back with a exclusive show on RT

I’d make a pun on the title of a Segal movie, if I could remember a Segal movie.

139 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:18:38pm

HOW COME NO FOXNEWS ANCHOR HAS HAD THE COURAGE TO QUIT ON THE AIR?!?!?!?!

//

140 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:18:44pm

re: #127 DKoch

Link or it didn’t happen

Just three Tweets so far. I’ll wait.

141 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:18:45pm

The wingers swoon over this puny little guy - Heh!

142 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:19:19pm

re: #136 StephenMeansMe

Which makes it a bit weirder that she joined after presumably knowing that.

That was THEN, and this is NOW,

Well, THEN, really, since it was 2 1/2 years ago, but not the same THEN as the original THEN. So perhaps, more accurately:

That was THEN, and this was ANOTHER THEN!

143 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:19:52pm

re: #141 DKoch

[Embedded image]

The wingers swoon over this puny little guy - Heh!

He looks like a bald, wrinkly Justin Bieber.

144 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:20:24pm

re: #141 DKoch

[Embedded image]

The wingers swoon over this puny little guy - Heh!

He’s 5’5”. Apparently, that explains his lack of intelligence. ///

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:20:27pm

re: #143 b.d.

He looks like a bald, wrinkly Justin Bieber.

Not just moobs, but wrinkly moobs…

146 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:21:04pm

re: #141 DKoch

[Embedded image]

The wingers swoon over this puny little guy - Heh!

Notice how there’s never anyone else in the shirtless selfies to give a sense of scale. No doubt he was riding a Shetland Pony.

147 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:21:12pm

re: #139 b.d.

HOW COME NO FOXNEWS ANCHOR HAS HAD THE COURAGE TO QUIT ON THE AIR?!?!?!?!

//

Roger Ailes has them all surgically implanted with those tiny eyeball bombs from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

148 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:21:34pm

To add, I seem to recall reports of a number of liberals (in production, not the shills they hire for on camera) who worked for FOX News because it was a paycheck. I personally couldn’t chew up that much of my soul for a paycheck, but I can see the temptation.

149 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:22:19pm

re: #148 Rev_Arthur_Belling

To add, I seem to recall reports of a number of liberals (in production, not the shills they hire for on camera) who worked for FOX News because it was a paycheck. I personally couldn’t chew up that much of my soul for a paycheck, but I can see the temptation.

The wages of sin is derp.

150 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:22:49pm

re: #143 b.d.

He looks like a bald, wrinkly Justin Bieber.

But he wrestles bears… in oil… so sayeth caribou barbie. (or something like that)

RBS

151 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:23:04pm

re: #149 Decatur Deb

The wages of sin is derp.

“It may be shit to you, but to my family it’s bread and butter!”

152 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:23:26pm

re: #146 GeneJockey

Notice how there’s never anyone else in the shirtless selfies to give a sense of scale. No doubt he was riding a Shetland Pony.

153 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:23:36pm

re: #136 StephenMeansMe

Which makes it a bit weirder that she joined after presumably knowing that.

You give her too much credit. I doubt she ever heard about it.

154 Belafon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:24:12pm

So, it seems that Alan Grayson had an aide film his interaction with his ex, and that it was she, not he, that did the shoving.

155 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:24:24pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded image]

“Boss, I ain’t never shot no midgets before!”

“Aim for their tiny hearts!”

156 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:24:27pm

re: #148 Rev_Arthur_Belling

To add, I seem to recall reports of a number of liberals (in production, not the shills they hire for on camera) who worked for FOX News because it was a paycheck. I personally couldn’t chew up that much of my soul for a paycheck, but I can see the temptation.

I know a guy who was an editor at the NY Post despite being actually a liberal. I never really asked him how he handled that, since I didn’t know him that well.

157 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:24:28pm

re: #129 b.d.

How is CNN getting the scoop interviews with the RT folks?

In Liz Wahl’s case, her reports (prior to her days with RT) had been broadcast on CNN.

From her early days with KSPN2 (Saipan):

cnn.com

158 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:24:57pm

159 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:25:21pm

re: #141 DKoch

So that horse was actually a pony.

160 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:26:32pm

re: #159 jaunte

So that horse was actually a pony.

OMG. You’re right.

161 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:27:17pm
162 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:27:31pm

re: #160 Gus

No wonder the rightwingers love him, they’re always excited about man-on-pony this and that.

163 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:28:05pm

re: #136 StephenMeansMe

Which makes it a bit weirder that she joined after presumably knowing that.

Not necessarily. I have to admit to not following *all* the events in Russia over the last 6 years, but we didn’t hear so much about Georgia after the initial spike in hostilities (I’m not saying that was a *good* thing, either).

Like I said above, a job is a job, and jobs (that aren’t located in Bismark, South Dakota) for ambitious anchor/reporters are vanishing before our eyes. She may have believed it was similar to Al Jazeera English. One doesn’t know.

I suppose events will tell if she winds up on a more reputable network. Maybe AJE will answer her phone call.

Maybe a cynical ploy, maybe a genuine bit of soul-searching.

164 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:28:17pm

re: #146 GeneJockey

Notice how there’s never anyone else in the shirtless selfies to give a sense of scale. No doubt he was riding a Shetland Pony.

re: #159 jaunte

So that horse was actually a pony.

Four minutes.

165 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:28:38pm

re: #141 DKoch

[Embedded image]

The wingers swoon over this puny little guy - Heh!

re: #143 b.d.

He looks like a bald, wrinkly Justin Bieber.

re: #144 Justanotherhuman

He’s 5’5”. Apparently, that explains his lack of intelligence. ///

re: #146 GeneJockey

Notice how there’s never anyone else in the shirtless selfies to give a sense of scale. No doubt he was riding a Shetland Pony.

Seems like Putin has a bit of a Napoleon complex.

166 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:29:03pm

re: #161 Gus

[Embedded content]

You just know you want to photoshop Putie onto a corgi, don’t you?

167 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:29:47pm

re: #161 Gus

[Embedded content]


Putin’s Private Stables.

168 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:30:17pm

Адуу: en.wikipedia.org

169 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:30:18pm

re: #167 b.d.

[Embedded image]
Putin’s Private Stables.

OMG. LOL

170 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:30:35pm

re: #167 b.d.

[Embedded image]
Putin’s Private Stables.

Why you no Tweet?

171 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:31:10pm

Being generous, the President leans forward to reduce the disparity in height, so the angry drunken dwarf won’t look so small

172 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:31:39pm

re: #108 RadicalModerate

From her LinkedIn bio, it appears that she actually was doing #2 - working in production for several news stations (including an internship with Fox) and working in Saipan as well as filing reports for CNN International.

Correspondent/Anchor
RTTV America
September 2011 - Present (2 years 7 months)Washington D.C.

Contributor
CNN International
June 2011 - September 2011 (4 months)
Contributing Correspondent to World View on CNN International

Reporter/Anchor
KSPN
December 2009 - September 2011 (1 year 10 months)
-cover government, politics, the military, and tourism
-anchor the newscast live weekdays at 6 p.m.
-correspondent for Guam’s KUAM

Freelance Associate Producer
News 12
April 2009 - November 2009 (8 months)

Fox News Channel
Intern
Fox News Channel
September 2007 - May 2008 (9 months)

Intern
NBC 30
January 2006 - May 2006 (5 months)

Education
Fairfield University
BA, English, Journalism
2008

173 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:31:54pm

re: #170 Gus

No twitter machine as of yet.
//

Please feel free Mr. Gus.

174 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:31:58pm

Night Lizards See you in the morning.

Become aware. Become involved.

175 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:33:26pm

re: #173 b.d.

No twitter machine as of yet.
//

Please feel free Mr. Gus.

176 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:34:32pm

re: #175 Gus

:)

177 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:35:49pm
178 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:36:50pm

re: #177 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Yep I am too but I guess that makes us commies if we think Mumia should have gotten counsel and the right to appeal.

179 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:37:20pm

re: #141 DKoch

[Embedded image]

The wingers swoon over this puny little guy - Heh!

“Will the shot hurt, doctor?”

180 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:38:26pm

I actually didn’t realize Putin was that short until Gus pointed it out. Well it puts him in good company with other Russian leaders like Stalin and Khrushchev. Lenin never looked that tall either?

181 palmerskiss  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:38:27pm

“Nothing remotely similar happened during run-up to Iraq War. No US news anchors resigned”


however, one or two were fired…….

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:38:30pm

I’m off to sleep…laterz lizards…

183 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:39:44pm

re: #177 Kragar

The argument seems to be that some people deserve railroading.
I see you asked for a list.

184 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:40:59pm
185 Teukka  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:44:28pm

re: #183 jaunte

The argument seems to be that some people deserve railroading.
I see you asked for a list.

Hmm… These guy talk long and wide about this thing called freedom and these things called rights.

Yet they forget that a fundamental human right is a fair trial by an unbiased court. It’s so important it is in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Why am I hardly surprised they see the UN as this big satanic monster?

186 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:46:27pm
187 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:47:12pm

re: #177 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Personally I came to the conclusion a long time ago that he was guilty but that the original trial was tainted beyond belief. The problem is that all the shit stirring by those for and against him have left it in a position where a fair trial will never occur. In this particular case, it bothers me less than others but it does point toward many of the problems in our system, especially for black men.

188 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:47:35pm

I wouldn’t touch bitcoins with a 10 ft pole.

Canadian police investigating after bitcoin bank Flexcoin folds

reuters.com

“Flexcoin was incorporated in Alberta in 2012 and registered to a rented mailbox in the city of Edmonton, according to provincial records. Its sole director and voting shareholder is James Andrew Gray, who also gave the rented mailbox as his address.

“The corporate data did not include a phone number or other means of contacting Gray. He did not respond to queries sent to the Flexcoin Twitter account and the Flexcoin email address or efforts to reach him through social media.

“An online forum posted on BitcoinTalk.org in March 2012 said Gray bought Flexcoin from U.S. firm Yooter Interactive Marketing.”

189 The Mountain That Blogs  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:49:29pm

re: #188 Justanotherhuman

One week later:

190 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:50:53pm

191 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:51:46pm

re: #188 Justanotherhuman

Me either, but for added schadenfreude, I recommend reading this piece by Roy Edroso addressing some bitbro’s rallying cry after Mt.Gox went under.

These folks (Bitbros) are delusional. The comments at the link are also pretty hilarious, even coming up with new names for the currency, like “Douchemarks.” Heh.

192 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:54:04pm

193 Skip Intro  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:54:35pm

re: #191 Rev_Arthur_Belling

If at first you don’t succeed, redefine what you did do as success.

194 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:54:50pm

re: #191 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Me either, but for added schadenfreude, I recommend reading this piece by Roy Edroso addressing some bitbro’s rallying cry after Mt.Gox went under.

These folks (Bitbros) are delusional. The comments at the link are also pretty hilarious, even coming up with new names for the currency, like “Douchemarks.” Heh.

Bitcoins are a simple enough scam. Early adopters of bitcoins stand to make out like bandits if bitcoins end up in widespread use. All bitcoin hype is thus explained in terms of self interest on the part of get-rich-quick schemers.

195 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:56:18pm
196 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:56:44pm

Singapore police probe ‘unnatural’ death of American CEO of bitcoin trader

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Singapore police are investigating what they have called the “unnatural” death of a 28-year-old American woman who ran a small exchange that traded virtual currencies, including bitcoins, from the Asian city state.

“Autumn Radtke, chief executive of First Meta Pte Ltd, was found dead at her Singapore home on Feb 26.

“The police are investigating the unnatural death,” a police spokesman said late on Wednesday when asked about media reports Radtke had been found dead last week. He gave no more details.”

197 Majacita  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:56:49pm

I liked the corgi better than the miniature horse. I think he would look cute sitting beside one of the rats though. The ones with teddy bears.

198 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:58:03pm

re: #192 Gus

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

199 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:58:55pm

re: #197 Majacita

I liked the corgi better than the miniature horse. I think he would look cute sitting beside one of the rats though. The ones with teddy bears.

Pot bellied pigs. Riding backwards.

200 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:59:17pm

re: #197 Majacita

I liked the corgi better than the miniature horse. I think he would look cute sitting beside one of the rats though. The ones with teddy bears.

PS just crashed! Was working on a mouse. Oh well.

201 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:00:13pm

Look, a pipeline! Your invasion is invalid!

202 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:01:27pm

re: #200 Gus

PS just crashed! Was working on a mouse. Oh well.

Putin should be riding his mighty Mouse O’War as he jousts with someone else also riding a mouse. Unfortunately, I’m having trouble thinking of a good opponent. Perhaps Tinkerbell?

203 b.d.  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:17pm

re: #202 EPR-radar

Putin should be riding his mighty Mouse O’War as he jousts with someone else also riding a mouse. Unfortunately, I’m having trouble thinking of a good opponent. Perhaps Tinkerbell?

or an ostrich like the old Joust video game.

204 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:02:50pm

re: #194 EPR-radar

Bitcoins are a simple enough scam. Early adopters of bitcoins stand to make out like bandits if bitcoins end up in widespread use. All bitcoin hype is thus explained in terms of self interest on the part of get-rich-quick schemers.

Emu ranching.

Even if you’re an early-in investor with good intentions and not a scammer, in the wash you only make a profit if you maintain the fiction that everyone’s going to see a profit.

Bitcoin also has an element in common with an affiliation scam, since it seems to appeal primarily to people of a certain worldview, and
buying in is a way of reinforcing one’s commitment to the community’s ethos.

205 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:04:13pm

re: #201 jaunte

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Look, a pipeline! Your invasion is invalid!

That’s probably a riff from Thomas Freidman’s last article
Why Putin Doesn’t Respect Us

I don’t want to go to war with Putin, but it is time we expose his real weakness and our real strength. That, though, requires a long-term strategy — not just fulminating on “Meet the Press.” It requires going after the twin pillars of his regime: oil and gas. Just as the oil glut of the 1980s, partly engineered by the Saudis, brought down global oil prices to a level that helped collapse Soviet Communism, we could do the same today to Putinism by putting the right long-term policies in place. That is by investing in the facilities to liquefy and export our natural gas bounty (provided it is extracted at the highest environmental standards) and making Europe, which gets 30 percent of its gas from Russia, more dependent on us instead. I’d also raise our gasoline tax, put in place a carbon tax and a national renewable energy portfolio standard — all of which would also help lower the global oil price (and make us stronger, with cleaner air, less oil dependence and more innovation).

206 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:05:03pm

re: #204 The Ghost of a Flea

Emu ranching.

Even if you’re an early-in investor with good intentions and not a scammer, in the wash you only make a profit if you maintain the fiction that everyone’s going to see a profit.

Bitcoin also has an element in common with an affiliation scam, since it seems to appeal primarily to people of a certain worldview, and
buying in is a way of reinforcing one’s commitment to the community’s ethos.

There is still an emu ranch on the outskirts of our town. The next town over is the epicenter for Sovereign Citizens.

207 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:08:14pm

re: #204 The Ghost of a Flea

Emu ranching.

Even if you’re an early-in investor with good intentions and not a scammer, in the wash you only make a profit if you maintain the fiction that everyone’s going to see a profit.

Bitcoin also has an element in common with an affiliation scam, since it seems to appeal primarily to people of a certain worldview, and
buying in is a way of reinforcing one’s commitment to the community’s ethos.

At least Emus reproduce, so there is some story to tell the late comers to an emu scheme. OTOH, bitcoins are essentially limited in number, so I find it impossible to believe that anyone can maintain the fiction that everyone’s going to see a profit in good faith.

208 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:03pm

It was a bad pick for many reasons

How Mumia Abu-Jamal doomed Debo Adegbile in the Senate

The nomination angered some Democrats, who noted that the vote placed vulnerable Democratic Senators in the middle of the decades-long tug-of-war over control of Abu-Jamal’s legacy between the law enforcement community and civil rights groups. That consternation only grew after the nomination failed, meaning some vulnerable Democrats had walked a political plank for not much.
….
Democrats representing red states and up for reelection in 2014 were stuck in the miserable position of choosing between defecting from their caucus by opposing an Obama nominee or voting for Adegbile and facing the potential that they would face campaign ads that alleged they supported someone who defended a cop-killer hit the airwaves. In the words of one Democratic aide: “It’s a 30-second ad that writes itself.”

209 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:11pm

re: #205 Killgore Trout

Friedman is probably right about the natural gas, but I wouldn’t stretch it to the Athabasca bitumen.

210 Majacita  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:29pm

I hope Gus gets PS running again. I laughed so much that I think I’ll come back tomorrow to this thread. Night all.

211 Ming  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:47pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Yep I am too but I guess that makes us commies if we think Mumia should have gotten counsel and the right to appeal.

Of course, Mumia should have gotten counsel and the right to appeal. That’s a basic American value. But I must say, I’ve followed the Mumia / Daniel Faulkner case in detail, and it really tears at my heart. The way Mumia’s lawyers turned him into a cause celebre makes OJ’s dream team look restrained.

Before today, I’ve always hated it when the Senate blocks an Obama nominee. And I’m sure I’ll continue to feel that way. But with this nominee in particular, I urge all of us to be open to “the other side”. One way to get started is with this story about the efforts of Faulkner’s widow to block the nomination. Of course, there’s plenty of other stuff to Google.

In my opinion, Mumia’s odyssey through the legal system, now going on 30 years, may be the single most grotesque story about our legal system that I’ve ever heard in my life. This is one story no one should miss.

I’ve read the book by Faulkner’s widow. I’m not happy that the book may well be a right-wing staple by now, but I would recommend the book to anyone.

212 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:09:57pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

There is still an emu ranch on the outskirts of our town. The next town over is the epicenter for Sovereign Citizens.

Ha! Can’t prove it, have zero data, but there is totally a correlation there.

Emus: because you can’t eat tulips.

213 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:10:41pm

re: #192 Gus

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Good chop, but Putin’s angle relative to how the horse is pointing looks odd; it almost looks like he’s riding sidesaddle ;-P

214 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:13:21pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Yep I am too but I guess that makes us commies if we think Mumia should have gotten counsel and the right to appeal.

No, that’s fine. It’s all good as long as you accept that his appeals were fairly heard and ultimately denied regarding his guilt because he did in fact commit the murder he is imprisoned for. It’s OK to think Abu-Jamal should not have been executed because one opposes the death penalty, but it is still the case that he should never be released from prison while he lives. He murdered a police officer and a person who commits that crime must be removed from society permanently.

215 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:15:09pm

re: #205 Killgore Trout

That is by investing in the facilities to liquefy and export our natural gas bounty (provided it is extracted at the highest environmental standards)

And with that, he destroys his credibility. Seriously, has he even looked at the state of gridlock in D.C.?

It’s one thing to engage in realpolitick, it’s another to live in a fantasy world.

I’d also raise our gasoline tax, put in place a carbon tax and a national renewable energy portfolio standard

And I’d like a unicorn while we’re at it.

216 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:15:48pm
217 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:16:24pm

re: #209 jaunte

Friedman is probably right about the natural gas, but I wouldn’t stretch it to the Athabasca bitumen.

Yeah, but I would love for someone to invent an economical and efficient solar panel with battery technology. Making oil useless would piss off a lot of the right people.

218 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:17:48pm

re: #215 Rev_Arthur_Belling

And with that, he destroys his credibility. Seriously, has he even looked at the state of gridlock in D.C.?

It’s one thing to engage in realpolitick, it’s another to live in a fantasy world.

And I’d like a unicorn while we’re at it.

I cringed at the tax stuff too. I like Freidman al lot but there’s a reason he’s not in government.

219 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:19:27pm

(Er, Gus — it’s Vladimir.)

220 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:19:56pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

(Er, Gus — it’s Vlad>imir.)

Oops.

221 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:20:03pm

re: #215 Rev_Arthur_Belling

And with that, he destroys his credibility. Seriously, has he even looked at the state of gridlock in D.C.?

It’s one thing to engage in realpolitick, it’s another to live in a fantasy world.

And I’d like a unicorn while we’re at it.

Unfortunately, doing anything about climate change while there is still time to mitigate it at all counts as a “unicorn”.

So it irritates me to read Friedman talking as if the long term plan is realistically going to be anything other than coping with unchecked climate change and cursing ancestors.

222 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:20:27pm

Fixed.

223 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:22:55pm

I don’t know if it has been mentioned, just logged back in to let everyone know Liz Wahl is on MSNBC Lawrence O’Donnell show coming right up. I just flipped him on and heard him say it, so it should be in a few moments.

224 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:24:04pm

re: #208 Killgore Trout

It was a bad pick for many reasons

How Mumia Abu-Jamal doomed Debo Adegbile in the Senate

That was true for 5 of the 7 actual defectors.

Senator Bob Casey Jr of Pennsylvania is the son of Governor Casey of the same state, who was governor at the time of Officer Faulkner’s murder. As I mentioned this morning, the younger Casey despises Mumia Abu-Jamal and would have voted against this nomination no matter what.

Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia would have voted against it because any other vote would have been disastrous in his state. West Virginia’s population has been hostile to Abu-Jamal from the state and Manchin is not going to go against their wishes.

225 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:24:47pm

re: #208 Killgore Trout

It was a bad pick for many reasons

Weird how you keep saying ‘many reasons’ and then keep giving that one same reason over and over.

226 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:25:39pm
227 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:26:16pm

MST3k - 514 - Teenage Strangler

Youtube Video

228 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:26:21pm

Liz Wahl now on with Anderson Cooper — really working that “I’m a credible news anchor” thing, bragging about her interview today with … yes … Ron Paul.

229 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:26:40pm

Here come the knuckle draggers!

230 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:27:06pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Liz Wahl now on with Anderson Cooper — really working that “I’m a credible news anchor” thing, bragging about her interview today with … yes … Ron Paul.

Credible being a relative term.

231 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:31:28pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Liz Wahl now on with Anderson Cooper — really working that “I’m a credible news anchor” thing, bragging about her interview today with … yes … Ron Paul.

Let’s see if she does the same routine on Lawrence O’Donnell. She’s next up.

232 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:31:46pm

re: #70 Gus

Senate rejects Obama appointment of Debo Adegbile to top civil rights post

Several Senate Democrats joined with Republicans in voting against Debo Adegbile, whose nomination was adamantly and vocally opposed by conservatives due to his participation in an appeal filed on behalf of Mumia Abu-Jamal — an internationally-known prisoner convicted of the 1981 murder of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner.

I gotta say, Adegbile may be a extremely competent lawyer, with scads of relevant experience for the DoJ post, but being associated at all with the Mumia abu-Jamal case in any fashion made him so politically radioactive, I have to wonder why President Obama nominated him at all.

Now, the RWNJs have that much more grist for the 2014 & 2016 election mill.

*headdesk*

233 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:31:47pm

Liz Wahl interviewing Ron Paul:

Youtube Video

234 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:35:01pm

Liz Wahl is clearly trying to parlay her short-lived notoriety into a job with a Western media organization.

235 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:35:06pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

Liz Wahl interviewing Ron Paul:

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This whole thing is a bunch of BS.

236 Floral Giraffe  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:36:05pm

re: #216 Gus

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You are having ENTIRELY too much fun with photoshop!

237 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:36:30pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Liz Wahl is clearly trying to parlay her short-lived notoriety into a job with a Western media organization.

Bingo!

238 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:36:58pm

re: #232 TedStriker

If they hadn’t treated it as radioactive, it wouldn’t be. The RWNJ have an endless supply of made-up bullshit they’re angry about, one more tangential connection to an old case isn’t going to inflame them or give them significantly more grist.

John Roberts did legal work for a murderer too, but that’s not a big deal because…

239 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:38:10pm
240 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:39:10pm

Ask Wahl why she stayed with RT for 2-1/2 yrs, Lawrence.

Ask the right questions, damn it.

241 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:42:05pm

re: #240 Justanotherhuman

“Liz, wasn’t it obvious to your reporter’s instincts what RT was when you first joined?”

242 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:42:57pm

So Liz Wahl on O’Donnell. Short version… Says she had been thinking for awhile to quit. Feels a new cold war coming and she was promoting Putinist propaganda. She is saying Abbey says stuff that the RT people like and she (Abbey) is a propagandist. Big difference between the two. Liz was more reporter, Abbey opinion. Talking about Russian government funded. Now she is calling Putin a dictator. She is saying she asked Ron Paul in interview about the Russian intervention and that was cut out and she knew she was being looked at differently. RT job is to make America look like the bad guy Russia good and for Putin to whitewash stuff. She says they’ve been really upping the propaganda aspects in this Ukraine occupation.

243 GeneJockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:45:14pm

re: #238 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

If they hadn’t treated it as radioactive, it wouldn’t be. The RWNJ have an endless supply of made-up bullshit they’re angry about, one more tangential connection to an old case isn’t going to inflame them or give them significantly more grist.

John Roberts did legal work for a murderer too, but that’s not a big deal because…

Oooooo! Call on me! Call on me! I know this one!!!!

244 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:46:03pm

“Spokesmodel” really is the correct term for Wahl and Martin.

Wahl sounded as though she had given the same spiel in every interview.

They remind me of Palin. Must have a well rehearsed script to be able to deliver. Not very good otherwise.

Wahl lists an internship at Fox News at her LinkedIn page:

linkedin.com

245 Weet  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:47:26pm

She’s on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show right now. She just said that Abby Martin’s show is just what RT likes, and that Liz does not agree with that.

She said it better than I just related.

Earlier today, I thought of her like: “Well, good, but where were your morals when you decided to work there?” I still don’t have the answer to that question, but she put enough truth out there that I now like her anyway.

After watching this, I decided to go read Greensnow’s piece for a good laugh.

I usually don’t read anything by him. His article is not just wrong, it’s totally disgusting.

246 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:47:39pm
The legal defense fund began its work on Abu-Jamal’s behalf well before Adegbile began working for it, however he did contribute to the filing of a 2009 court brief that argued that Abu-Jamal faced a discriminatory jury — an appeal later found to have merit by a judge.

Boy, glad this guy won’t be working for the government on civil rights, he actually believes in them and works for them.

I think Abu-Jamal killed a cop. I also think that his trial had a shitload of problems with it, including a biased jury.

247 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:47:54pm

Liz Wahl’s Overview

Current

Correspondent/Anchor at RTTV America

Past

Contributor at CNN International
Reporter/Anchor at KSPN
Freelance Associate Producer at News 12

see all
Education

Fairfield University

Connections

228 connections

Liz Wahl’s Experience
Correspondent/Anchor
RTTV America

September 2011 - Present (2 years 7 months) Washington D.C.
Contributor
CNN International

June 2011 - September 2011 (4 months)
Reporter/Anchor
KSPN

December 2009 - September 2011 (1 year 10 months)
Freelance Associate Producer
News 12

April 2009 - November 2009 (8 months)
Intern
Fox News Channel

September 2007 - May 2008 (9 months)
Intern
NBC 30

January 2006 - May 2006 (5 months)

248 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:50:29pm

How many years has she been working? 6 1/2 years? Seriously? That’s like greenhorn country.

249 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:50:39pm

re: #244 Justanotherhuman

“Spokesmodel” really is the correct term for Wahl and Martin.

Wahl sounded as though she had given the same spiel in every interview.

They remind me of Palin. Must have a well rehearsed script to be able to deliver. Not very good otherwise.

Wahl lists an internship at Fox News at her LinkedIn page:

linkedin.com

Sounded like her whole thing was ‘I knew what I was getting into was slimy, but I needed the work for my resume, and now that it is getting really crazy and for reals, it is time to eject…I’ll need to as I need to work on my resume to keep working and this is really going to be icky!’

250 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:51:39pm

re: #247 Gus

Liz Wahl’s Overview

less than six years out of college… how much do you suppose a ‘Correspondent/Anchor at RTTV America’ makes?

251 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:51:40pm

re: #238 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

If they hadn’t treated it as radioactive, it wouldn’t be. The RWNJ have an endless supply of made-up bullshit they’re angry about, one more tangential connection to an old case isn’t going to inflame them or give them significantly more grist.

John Roberts did legal work for a murderer too, but that’s not a big deal because…

Hey, I’m not saying that I disagree with you; the RWNJs (who co-opted the Faulkner family on this, IMO) were never going to let Adegbile be confirmed (or, if he had been confirmed over their objections, they would have hounded him until he quit). In this case, the Dem “defectors” were more worried about their own skins in November’s election than whether Adegbile is actually the right person to run the Civil Rights division at Justice; they put the GOP over the top on this.

Mumia may be guilty as sin, but it’s ironic that one of the men working to give him a chance at a fair trial got railroaded himself.

252 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:52:55pm

re: #251 TedStriker

I just think the Dem defectors are dumb because their opponents don’t need reality to attack them with, they just make up shit anyway. Derailing this isn’t really going to help them.

253 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:54:09pm
254 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:56:00pm

re: #3 DKoch

“I can not be part of a network that whitewashes the actions Putin.”

I bet we won’t see any of the self-righteous conspiracy theorists at The Intercept resigning over their plutocrat boss funding coups.

PS Funny how Abby Martin opposes violence, yet poses with violent weapons in a sexualized photo spread.

255 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:56:19pm

re: #250 dog philosopher

less than six years out of college… how much do you suppose a ‘Correspondent/Anchor at RTTV America’ makes?

As of January 2013, the salary range that a news anchor typically makes in a year is from $27,342 to $115,084. The salary still varies depending on location, company, and years of experience or popularity. For instance, Matt Lauer of NBC makes $25 million a year for being a news anchor.

How to Become a News Anchor?

To become a news anchor you must have a college degree in journalism. You must also write well, do an internship, become a member of a member of a professional journalist organization

How to Get a Job as a News Anchor.

1. Get an internship with a local station, network or cable news network. Many internships are offered to students studying journalism, broadcast journalism or English through colleges

What are the qualifications of news anchors?

A degree in Journalism, credible experience in the news field, a pleasant personality and appearance. This is one of those positions where you don’t just jump in as anchor after graduation

ask.com

256 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:56:53pm

o/t

Brownies or popcorn?

Somethin’ gettin’ et soon.

257 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:57:43pm

The Mumia stuff sounds like a Willie Horton retread.

Re: Wahl, she’s a broadcaster. Their whole job is to memorize or read lines off a teleprompter. From the original article, it appears she’s been thinking about leaving the station for quite a while (at least having pangs of conscience 6 months or so ago).

And she worked for CNN International as well as interning at FOX News. TV news can be a very incestuous business. Just look how many people end up on one network lured away from the other.

So far she doesn’t appear to be a 9/11 truther like the other woman Martin, so I’m willing to cut her a bit more slack.

Like I said, she might have thought it was going to be like Al Jazeera-English, which is still a branch of Al Jazeera. I haven’t examined their reporting lately (I prefer the BBC World Service), but they originally hired some highly qualified journalist to head up their effort in English.

258 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:00:01pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Could be a cynical career move, could also be kabuki theater.

Why choose one?

It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

259 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:00:19pm

re: #257 Rev_Arthur_Belling

The Mumia stuff sounds like a Willie Horton retread.

Re: Wahl, she’s a broadcaster. Their whole job is to memorize or read lines off a teleprompter. From the original article, it appears she’s been thinking about leaving the station for quite a while (at least having pangs of conscience 6 months or so ago).

And she worked for CNN International as well as interning at FOX News. TV news can be a very incestuous business. Just look how many people end up on one network lured away from the other.

So far she doesn’t appear to be a 9/11 truther like the other woman Martin, so I’m willing to cut her a bit more slack.

Like I said, she might have thought it was going to be like Al Jazeera-English, which is still a branch of Al Jazeera. I haven’t examined their reporting lately (I prefer the BBC World Service), but they originally hired some highly qualified journalist to head up their effort in English.

Pretty much how she sold it. Truth probably resides nearby…

260 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:00:44pm

re: #255 dog philosopher

To become a news anchor you must have a college degree in journalism

This is actually not true. You have to have internships, possibly time at your college TV station, but a degree in journalism isn’t necessary. And depending what a news manager thinks, it’s very possible for someone a few years out of college to at least have ascended to weekend anchor duty. Or some morning show bullshit.

261 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:01:41pm

Much as I might like to take Liz Wahl’s epiphany at face value, that cynical devil on my left shoulder keeps telling me I’m being a chump.

262 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:03:10pm

re: #42 Bubblehead II

Just one question. Was this broadcast live or was it prerecorded?

Live I could/might accept. Prerecorded, not so much.

Nice insight!

263 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:03:17pm

re: #258 chadu

Why choose one?

It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

Carnauba Wax. Shine your floors and texture and appearance in chocolate bars!

264 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:03:48pm

re: #250 dog philosopher

less than six years out of college… how much do you suppose a ‘Correspondent/Anchor at RTTV America’ makes?

Plenty, if they’re FN-quality attractive (spokesmodels!), young and American. Even the Kremlin knows what sells.

265 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:04:30pm
266 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:05:36pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

Eh, only time will really tell. If she ends up somewhere credible, for instance, and does credible work, it’s probably not so cynical a career move. If she lands back at FOX, or working for a RWNJ site, probably a safe bet.

I seem to recall some folks around here who switched positions over the years, so I’m inclined to take the wait-and-see approach.

267 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:05:56pm

re: #77 Justanotherhuman

Liz Wahl pal.

Image: 1780874_803041596377957_1628208671_n.jpg

And I heard the “Pac Man dies” sound effect in my head after opening the pic.

268 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:06:44pm

re: #252 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I just think the Dem defectors are dumb because their opponents don’t need reality to attack them with, they just make up shit anyway. Derailing this isn’t really going to help them.

It actually will, Obdi. As the WaPo article noted, had this man been confirmed the attack ads would have written themselves.

Moreover, it was one thing for Adegbile to defend Abu-Jamal. But he has continued to shout Abu-Jamal is innocent long after it has become utterly certain that Abu-Jamal is guilty. Moreover, he indulged in baseless speculation and accusation about conspiracies to frame his client, which served no purpose save to fan anti-police sentiments.

Lastly, the head of the civil rights division should be someone whom police departments can work with, and Debo Adegbile does not fit that bill. Cops hate him with a passion, and that would poison any work his division tried to do.

269 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:07:24pm

re: #91 Gus

Oh look…

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He looks like Mirror Universe Big Boy.

270 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:08:01pm
271 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:08:05pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I eagerly await Jean Claude Van Damme’s analysis on Venezuela.

I bet he recommends they do the splits.

272 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:08:29pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

Much as I might like to take Liz Wahl’s epiphany at face value, that cynical devil on my left shoulder keeps telling me I’m being a chump.

Do you think she took the job to get to a point like this to where she could jump and play The Good American News Anchor Lady that told Vlad to Piss Off? Or something to that effect.

273 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:08:31pm

re: #101 DKoch

Abby Martin sure know how to display her assets

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I’m having SE Cupp flashbacks now.

274 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:08:46pm

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Interestingly, in the small market where I grew up, there was an anchor on the top station who’d been anchoring for like 20 years. She had some messy personal problems, left the station, and after a few years, they brought her back because none of the other female anchors they tried worked out. She stayed quite a few more years, and that was the top-rated newscast in the area.

TV news is a weird business.

275 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:09:11pm

re: #103 GeneJockey

It’s a floor shoe polish AND a dessert topping hair dye!

SCOOPED (though orthagonally).

276 palomino  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:09:22pm

re: #265 Kragar

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Only 16 points? God, this country is in more trouble than I thought.

277 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:10:56pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

Pretty much how she sold it. Truth probably resides nearby…

On Martin’s twitter account, it sounds as though she’s trying to re-live the 60s with her “psychedelic” art; also seems to love LSD (noted elsewhere). Greenwald tweets at her acct frequently, too. Dudesis, no doubt.

These people cultivate each other.

278 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:11:44pm

re: #276 palomino

Only 16 points? God, this country is in more trouble than I thought.

It was a Fox Poll.
/

279 andres  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:11:54pm

re: #276 palomino

Only 16 points? God, this country is in more trouble than I thought.

Considering it’s a Fox News poll, it’s better than expected.

Unless that’s the values unskewed… /

280 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:11:55pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

Roger Ailes has them all surgically implanted with those tiny eyeball bombs from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Was there a new ep this week? I need to check XOD.

281 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:13:49pm

re: #277 Justanotherhuman

I think he was referring to Wahl. Given her “true American” spiel, I’m not sure how she’d fit in with the GG dudebros.

282 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:15:47pm

re: #281 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I think he was referring to Wahl. Given her “true American” spiel, I’m not sure how she’d fit in with the GG dudebros.

It sounds like she’s angling for that Fox News job she didn’t get before.

283 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:15:54pm

re: #281 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I think he was referring to Wahl. Given her “true American” spiel, I’m not sure how she’d fit in with the GG dudebros.

Yes, I got that, but he mentioned Martin, so I gave that impression.

284 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:17:11pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

It actually will, Obdi. As the WaPo article noted, had this man been confirmed the attack ads would have written themselves.

Again, the GOP doesn’t need reality to write attack ads. They just lie and make up shit.

Moreover, it was one thing for Adegbile to defend Abu-Jamal.

He didn’t defend him. He, while at the ACLU, helped to file an appeal on the grounds that the jury was biased, which was found to have merit by a judge.

But he has continued to shout Abu-Jamal is innocent long after it has become utterly certain that Abu-Jamal is guilty. Moreover, he indulged in baseless speculation and accusation about conspiracies to frame his client, which served no purpose save to fan anti-police sentiments.

What is your source for this?

Lastly, the head of the civil rights division should be someone whom police departments can work with, and Debo Adegbile does not fit that bill. Cops hate him with a passion, and that would poison any work his division tried to do.

Is this part of your post a joke?

285 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:17:30pm

Liz Wahl and her continuing fight w/Wikipedia.

286 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:17:42pm
287 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:18:35pm

re: #186 Gus

[Embedded content]

288 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:19:11pm

POPCORN HAZ WON.

BBIAB.

289 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:20:30pm

re: #288 chadu

POPCORN HAZ WON.

BBIAB.

290 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:20:43pm

re: #285 Justanotherhuman

Liz Wahl and her continuing fight w/Wikipedia.

[Embedded content]

What is she claiming is ‘blacked out?’

291 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:20:54pm

Other than that she kind of seems like an ordinary young woman from suburbia.

292 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:21:38pm

It’s sad that America has no credibility on this because of our warrantless Iraq invasion. That’s the price we will have to continue to pay for having elected the worst president in American history.

293 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:26:39pm

re: #199 b.d.

Pot bellied pigs. Riding backwards.

Youtube Video

294 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:27:12pm

re: #201 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Look, a pipeline! Your invasion is invalid!

295 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:27:43pm

Spokesmodels’ rant on Wikipedia.

Youtube Video

It actually started when Abby Martin’s Wiki page was taken down. Was she doing commercials for herself there?

This is some weird shit, folks. Martin may be insane. Or just using too much LSD.

296 palomino  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:27:59pm

re: #292 SpaceJesus

It’s sad that America has no credibility on this because of our warrantless Iraq invasion. That’s the price we will have to continue to pay for having elected the worst president in American history.

Can’t disagree.

But the US doesn’t have a great hand to play here in the first place. We can’t screw Russia by ourselves, we need Europe’s help. Especially economically. And the Europeans aren’t likely to agree to huge sanctions. This is Russia we and the Euros are dealing with, not Iran.

297 Kragar  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:29:44pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Spokesmodels’ rant on Wikipedia.

[Embedded content]

It actually started when Abby Martin’s Wiki page was taken down. Was she doing commercials for herself there?

This is some weird shit, folks. Martin may be insane. Or just using too much LSD.

Maybe it was the fluoride

298 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:31:57pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Spokesmodels’ rant on Wikipedia.

[Embedded content]

It actually started when Abby Martin’s Wiki page was taken down. Was she doing commercials for herself there?

This is some weird shit, folks. Martin may be insane. Or just using too much LSD.

People actually watch this garbage?

299 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:32:12pm

re: #274 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Interestingly, in the small market where I grew up, there was an anchor on the top station who’d been anchoring for like 20 years. She had some messy personal problems, left the station, and after a few years, they brought her back because none of the other female anchors they tried worked out. She stayed quite a few more years, and that was the top-rated newscast in the area.

TV news is a weird business.

Charlotte is a fairly large market for this area and there are many anchors who have been w/the several stations for many years, esp the most established ones which are affiliated w/the major networks.

300 jonhendry  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:32:20pm

re: #136 StephenMeansMe

Which makes it a bit weirder that she joined after presumably knowing that.

RT America didn’t start until 2010, so there wasn’t really any way of knowing for sure how the editorial line would be in a situation like Georgia or Ukraine.

One could make an educated guess that it would be a propaganda-fest, but I’m sure they present themselves differently to prospective hires.

301 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:32:53pm

re: #40 Gus

[Embedded content]

Was Roberts successful in defending his client, and his client found not guilty?

302 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:33:28pm

re: #301 BeenHereAwhile

Was Roberts successful in defending his client, and his client found not guilty?

Have no idea.

303 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:33:52pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Looking at the RT wikipedia page it’s apparent there’s been a lot of free-range editing going on over the last few days.

304 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:34:01pm

re: #300 jonhendry

RT America didn’t start until 2010, so there wasn’t really any way of knowing for sure how the editorial line would be in a situation like Georgia or Ukraine.

One could make an educated guess that it would be a propaganda-fest, but I’m sure they present themselves differently to prospective hires.

You mean people don’t investigate the companies where they want to be hired, esp ones where you would be a really public face?

305 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:34:17pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Not deemed notable by Wikipedia. That has to sting someone who’s been working almost seven years.

306 palomino  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:34:46pm

re: #292 SpaceJesus

It’s sad that America has no credibility on this because of our warrantless Iraq invasion. That’s the price we will have to continue to pay for having elected the worst president in American history.

How many extra wars do you think we’d be fighting if McCain had won the 2008 election? With Lindsey Graham as his SecDef? Every time those two hear that there’s a problem anywhere in the world, they have the same knee-jerk response: “Talk tougher! Threaten war!”

307 jonhendry  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:34:57pm

re: #294 chadu

That’s either Dormammu or Mysterio. Clearly.

308 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:39:09pm

re: #305 jaunte

Not deemed notable by Wikipedia. That has to sting someone who’s been working almost seven years.

Wikipedia isn’t explaining—I can’t find anything from them.

This is what Martin is pushing, the “not notable” BS. I suspect she may have been shilling herself. These people are all about the publicity, IMHO. Other RT “personalities” have pages, some don’t.

Without a comment from the editors at Wiki, we really don’t know why.

309 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:41:08pm

re: #308 Justanotherhuman

I would bet the people who edit Wikipedia and are serious about making it a useful encyclopedia would tend to get impatient with self-promoting talking heads.

310 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:41:26pm

re: #307 jonhendry

That’s either Dormammu or Mysterio. Clearly.

Steve Ditko-created villains always get an upding.

311 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:41:48pm


Wahl just opened a car of whup-azz on Abby Martin:

“The things that she says on her show happen to be what the Kremlin likes. It’s a narrative that they like. This is a narrative that I find to be propagandist.”

312 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:42:14pm

313 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:43:48pm

re: #312 Gus

That hairline… could it be…. Satan!?!?

314 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:44:30pm

Seagal’s new movie: Hard to Shill

315 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:44:56pm

Abby Martin accuses Israel of using “Hitler’s methods”.

Youtube Video

316 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:45:06pm
Archaeology is assembling a functioning DeLorean based on one hubcap and a vague description of Back to the Future Part II.

cracked.com

317 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:46:19pm

re: #312 Gus

And the “Pac Man dies” noise just became the Robot from Lost in Space: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!

318 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:46:39pm

re: #301 BeenHereAwhile

Was Roberts successful in defending his client, and his client found not guilty?

No. Ferguson was convicted on eight counts of murder, spent thirty years on death row and was finally executed in August of last year.

319 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:47:08pm

320 jaunte  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:47:44pm

Exotic botanicals!

321 jonhendry  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:48:15pm

re: #304 Justanotherhuman

“You mean people don’t investigate the companies where they want to be hired, esp ones where you would be a really public face?”

They could, sure, but they might not be able to get good inside information. What information would there have been for the first hires in 2010?

RT America apparently has really ramped up the propaganda lately. A couple of years ago, it may not have been as extreme. At the time Wahl started, it would have been in the runup to the 2012 election, which was probably a large part of their coverage. I could see that looking a lot more like “normal” news coverage, albeit with more fringe-y guests than other networks.

322 Weet  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:48:23pm

re: #163 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Maybe a cynical ploy, maybe a genuine bit of soul-searching.

Methinks it’s absolutely necessary to realize that people do change, and to give them the right to do so. I am hoping, for example, that more Republicans wake up and see the error of their ways. It’s what human civilization needs in many arenas, not just US politics.

So, she gets the benefit of the doubt from me. I hope more of the getting-older 20 somethings that have been taken in by crap like RT follow her lead.

323 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:49:14pm

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

No. Ferguson was convicted on eight counts of murder, spent thirty years on death row and was finally executed in August of last year.

Last words: “I just want everyone to know that I am the prince of God and will rise again.”

324 Mattand  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:50:22pm

re: #319 jaunte

[Embedded image]

I like how they had to go to Segal for the quote on the can. No one else could have dropped such a brilliantly constructed product description.

325 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:51:19pm

re: #161 Gus

[Embedded content]

The pony looks like about 12 hands.

326 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:51:46pm

re: #320 jaunte

Exotic botanicals!

QuickHipster: Exotic Botanticals, openedfor= Talking Heads; venue= Heinz Hall; hit= “That Voodoo Hoodooo You Do”; shit=tight.

327 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:55:43pm

re: #322 Weet

Methinks it’s absolutely necessary to realize that people do change, and to give them the right to do so. I am hoping, for example, that more Republicans wake up and see the error of their ways. It’s what human civilization needs in many arenas, not just US politics.

So, she gets the benefit of the doubt from me. I hope more of the getting-older 20 somethings that have been taken in by crap like RT follow her lead.

Maybe. And maybe her grandparents (the Hungarian refugees) put some whoop-ass on her for her choice of work places, too.

At any rate, she doesn’t appear batshit crazy like Abby Martin. I hope she has learned a huge lesson from this, too.

328 DKoch  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:56:06pm

re: #315 Justanotherhuman

Nice mini-skirt

329 jonhendry  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:57:12pm

re: #327 Justanotherhuman

Maybe. And maybe her grandparents (the Hungarian refugees) put some whoop-ass on her for her choice of work places, too.

I bet something to the effect of “Those were the Soviets, Grandma! The Soviet Union is gone!” was said at some point.

330 Gus  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 8:58:09pm

I see RT learned a lot from Fox News.

331 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:11pm

re: #324 Mattand

I like how they had to go to Segal for the quote on the can. No one else could have dropped such a brilliantly constructed product description.

Reading that the second time, forgetting the context, I had a Segal-as-LBJ moment and LOL’d.

332 chadu  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:00:41pm

re: #330 Gus

I see RT learned a lot from Fox News.

333 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:16:19pm

Dark, the language you used was very, very similar to an op-end I found in the WaPo. Is that your source?

334 Weet  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:24:58pm

re: #327 Justanotherhuman

Maybe. And maybe her grandparents (the Hungarian refugees) put some whoop-ass on her for her choice of work places, too.

At any rate, she doesn’t appear batshit crazy like Abby Martin. I hope she has learned a huge lesson from this, too.

Agreed. At any rate, she’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer (as someone said earlier), but a lot of them aren’t. Have to hope that over time their critical thinking skills develop, and they get enough exposure to different points of view.

335 jonhendry  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:35:38pm

I’d like the US to adopt British usage, and call these people “newsreaders”, which is really what they are, as opposed to “journalists”.

336 sagehen  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:46:36pm

re: #292 SpaceJesus

It’s sad that America has no credibility on this because of our warrantless Iraq invasion. That’s the price we will have to continue to pay for having elected the worst president in American history our lifetimes.

The worst president in American history was James Buchanan (1857-1861). Nobody else will ever be that awful.

337 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:55:12pm

Depending on your cable TV lineup, you can watch China’s version of RT, CCTV-International. They’ve had an English version for years, and are now expanding into French and Spanish.

CCTV (China Central TV) is state-run, so you can imagine the slant on the news. The programming is mostly quite boring, but the news and discussion shows are sometimes worth watching for the sheer absurdity of the Party line.

The English-language channel employs Western newsreaders and hosts, who may sometimes feel a bit like RT’s non-Russian employees.

338 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 6, 2014 6:13:53am

re: #333 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Dark, the language you used was very, very similar to an op-end I found in the WaPo. Is that your source?

The part about the “attack ads writing themselves” was taken from the WaPo piece, but I cited it as my source.

339 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 6, 2014 6:22:25am

re: #338 Dark_Falcon

The part about the “attack ads writing themselves” was taken from the WaPo piece, but I cited it as my source.

And what is your source for your other claims, please?

340 De Kolta Chair  Thu, Mar 6, 2014 8:29:40am

I love the smell of cults crumbling in the morning.


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