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1 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:37:12am

Does Bryan get to speak this year?

2 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:37:19am

Do I have to? //

3 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:38:13am

I don’t know how anyone gets inspired watching guys like Santorum and Rand Paul. I just get depressed watching them because it’s proof positive on how the party of Lincoln has become a party of primitive bigots who would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or think wanting some form of post high school education is snobbery.

4 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:38:30am
5 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:39:30am

re: #1 Kragar

Does Bryan get to speak this year?

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Well I am glad Bryan at least has perspective. I mean the biggest issue surely isn’t something like poverty, religious strife, racism, or global warming but people of the same gender being sexually attracted to each other.Where can I send money!

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:39:59am

Fox’s Oliver North: Obama using soldiers as lab rats in gay ‘radical social experiment’

“The members of our armed forces and their families deserve better than being treated like laboratory rats in some radical social experiment,” he said during his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

7 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:41:08am

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Fox’s Oliver North: Obama using soldiers as lab rats in gay ‘radical social experiment’

Better a gay servicemember than a crook like Ollie.

8 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:41:43am

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Fox’s Oliver North: Obama using soldiers as lab rats in gay ‘radical social experiment’

Yeah, they should be forced to deploy more on questionable ventures while receiving less support, the way things were meant to be.

9 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:42:14am

Now playing: “Can Libertarians and Social Conservatives Ever Get Along?”

10 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:42:42am

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Fox’s Oliver North: Obama using soldiers as lab rats in gay ‘radical social experiment’

Amazingly similar to comments made when Truman ordered the military integrated.

12 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:45:07am
13 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:45:14am

re: #10 kirkspencer

Amazingly similar to comments made when Truman ordered the military integrated.

Yep replace Obama with Truman and you get the reason why Strom Thurmond eventually left the Democratic party.

14 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:47:02am

re: #12 wrenchwench

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Nice colors too.

15 Timothy Watson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:47:30am

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Too bad I don’t have a pass to CPAC, otherwise I would go just to spit on North.

16 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:47:59am

re: #14 Gus

Nice colors too.

Ms. Pacman!

17 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:48:44am

Uh oh…

18 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:48:47am

Schedule is not popping up even after reloads of page and browser.

19 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:49:07am

O/T

While raised Catholic, I don’t identify as such any more, but damn, this fish sub looked good.

And tastes good: NOM NOM NOM.

20 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:49:31am

re: #18 wrenchwench

Schedule is not popping up even after reloads of page and browser.

Feature, not a bug. ;)

21 Ian G.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:49:56am

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Fox’s Oliver North: Obama using soldiers as lab rats in gay ‘radical social experiment’

Yes, such a radical social experiment that the IDF (which has just a tad more reason to be on constant high alert than the US Army) has had openly gay soldiers for years without any problems.

22 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:52:01am

re: #21 Ian G.

Yes, such a radical social experiment that the IDF (which has just a tad more reason to be on constant high alert than the US Army) has had openly gay soldiers for years without any problems.

This is something I’d ask of any right wing nutjob who purports to love Israel and think of them as a great ally. I’ll throw in the UK and Canada as well as top allies who allow openly gay men and women to serve in their armed forces and do quite well. Do wingnuts really want us to resemble Iran when it comes to letting gay individuals serve their country?

23 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:53:50am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

This is something I’d ask of any right wing nutjob who purports to love Israel and think of them as a great ally. I’ll throw in the UK and Canada as well as top allies who allow openly gay men and women to serve in their armed forces and do quite well. Do wingnuts really want us to resemble Iran when it comes to letting gay individuals serve their country?

Also, was it better when gays in the military were closeted so jerks like North could blackmail them? I guess that would depend on one’s perspective.

24 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:55:22am

You know what, I expect people to disagree Obama’s policies. I do. It’s natural but I’ll be damned if every speaker at this whine fest isn’t a two bit whiner who thinks Obama is out to get them and everyone right of center. I mean these guys love to talk about how they love Ronald Reagan. I am no Reagan fanboy but Reagan at least knew how to be positive. These guys are all about negative and feeding off of resentments. Is it any wonder why they’ve had one election since ‘88 where they’ve gotten over 50% of the vote?

25 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:55:48am

re: #21 Ian G.

Yes, such a radical social experiment that the IDF (which has just a tad more reason to be on constant high alert than the US Army) has had openly gay soldiers for years without any problems.

Pfft.

If I’ve learned anything from two decades in the Bible Belt, it’s that what actual Jews in actual Israel think and do is irrelevant.

Israel of wingnut fantasy is The Real Israel. Where they’re constantly, eerily in lock-step with US conservative policy with no dissent; love using guns to shoot Muslims constantly; and deep down understand that they really shouldn’t have killed Jesus or set up all those evil international banking conspiracies.

26 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:55:50am
27 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:56:40am
28 Timothy Watson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:57:00am

McCain is totally senile (or a liar, but calling him senile is nicer, I think):

“Maybe the President thinks the Cold War is over,” he added, “but Vladimir Putin doesn’t and that’s what this is all about.”
[…]
“The Cold War is over, the Soviet empire is gone and neither one is missed,” he once told a group of military veterans during the campaign.

talkingpointsmemo.com

29 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:57:41am

30 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:58:08am

re: #28 Timothy Watson

McCain is totally senile (or a liar, but calling him senile is nicer, I think):

talkingpointsmemo.com

He can be such a jackass sometimes and he’s honestly one of the “better” members of their senate caucus.

31 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:58:20am
32 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:59:22am

re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea

Pfft.

If I’ve learned anything from two decades in the Bible Belt, it’s that what actual Jews in actual Israel is irrelevant.

Israel of wingnut fantasy is The Real Israel. Where they’re constantly, eerily in lock-step with US conservative policy with no dissent; love using guns to shoot Muslims constantly; and deep down understand that they really should have killed Jesus or set up all those evil international banking conspiracies.

Yeah you make good points. See Bachmann attacking American Jews for voting their conscience. The crazy eyed nut had the nerve to accuse them of selling out. What Bachmann and other fundies refuse to understand about the Jewish community both American and abroad is the Jewish people do not like being used as tools by fundies.

33 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 10:59:23am

re: #21 Ian G.

Yes, such a radical social experiment that the IDF (which has just a tad more reason to be on constant high alert than the US Army) has had openly gay soldiers for years without any problems.

yea… the RWNJ’s who go on and on about “Gays Destroying Our Military” really don’t like to be reminded of that… typical response. “NO THEY DON’T!… SHUDUP!!!

RBS

34 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:00:04am

re: #17 NJDhockeyfan

Uh oh…

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damn

35 iossarian  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:00:57am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2014 GOP election platform!

36 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:01:33am
37 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:01:48am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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I think he missed the whole point of the CRA of 64. If your business is operating in the public sphere then no sorry you do not have that right.

38 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:02:26am
39 Ian G.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:03:04am

re: #35 iossarian

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2014 GOP election platform!

Pretty much. GOP 2014: This is a country of, by, and for straight white Christian men. The rest of you mongrels live here at our pleasure.

40 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:03:06am
41 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:03:48am

re: #21 Ian G.

Yes, such a radical social experiment that the IDF (which has just a tad more reason to be on constant high alert than the US Army) has had openly gay soldiers for years without any problems.

That’s different because Jesus.

42 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:04:24am

re: #38 Kragar

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Not only have banned gay marriage but civil unions as well. Why lie about something that even your audience knows to be true when Bush’s people used refrendums banning SSM to get out the vote in 2004.

43 Timothy Watson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:06:14am

re: #38 Kragar

The wingnut/derpshit was probably using the strawman that: GAYS CAN GET MARRIED THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE!!1!

44 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:06:46am

re: #38 Kragar

Right Wing Pundit: I have the power to summon unicorns. (grits teeth, closes eyes, points to empty chair) There’s one now!

RWNJ Audience: That truly is a lovely unicorn! And it got here so fast!

45 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:06:58am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Not only have banned gay marriage but civil unions as well. Why lie about something that even your audience knows to be true when Bush’s people used refrendums banning SSM to get out the vote in 2004.

Aint no mention of Bush doing that in the only book they read.

46 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:07:04am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Yeah you make good points. See Bachmann attacking American Jews for voting their conscience. The crazy eyed nut had the nerve to accuse them of selling out. What Bachmann and other fundies refuse to understand about the Jewish community both American and abroad is the Jewish people do not like being used as tools by fundies.

Right now it’s a burr in my ass, since I’m following Fred Clark’s Left Behind recaps. The recaps have hit the point where we’re deep into the anti-Semitic bullshit, where the “heroes” have to flee from Israeli Jews intent on killing them because one of them is a rabbi who announced that Christ is the True Messiah (they already assassinated his family). They’re feeling from Israel into the territory of the Antichrist’s One-World Government, for fuck’s sake.

This is a best-seller Christian novel that claims to be an extrapolation of the prophecy…people believe this shit will come true. There’s study guides explaining these books like they were scripture.

47 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:07:29am

re: #43 Timothy Watson

The wingnut/derpshit was probably using the strawman that: GAYS CAN GET MARRIED THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE!!1!

Oh the Bachmann Fallacy, yes. The one that should have gotten her laughed out of office.

48 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:07:59am

re: #40 Gus

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Still not seeing any confirmation but the reports are circulation

49 iossarian  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:08:11am

re: #43 Timothy Watson

The wingnut/derpshit was probably using the strawman that: GAYS CAN GET MARRIED THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE!!1!

You’re probably right, which is really, really sad.

50 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:09:43am

re: #46 The Ghost of a Flea

Right now it’s a burr in my ass, since I’m following Fred Clark’s Left Behind recaps. The recaps have hit the point where we’re deep into the anti-Semitic bullshit, where the “heroes” have to flee from Israeli Jews intent on killing them because one of them is a rabbi who announced that Christ is the True Messiah (they already assassinated his family). They’re feeling from Israel into the territory of the Antichrist’s One-World Government, for fuck’s sake.

This is a best-seller Christian novel that claims to be an extrapolation of the prophecy…people believe this shit will come true. There’s study guides explaining these books like they were scripture.

Yikes but then again you listen to John Hagee talk about Jews and the Holocaust. I mean I’m not Jewish and the vile shit he says about the Holocaust and Jews and Hitler makes me want to punch him in the face. Can’t imagine how I’d feel if I had relatives that died in the Holocaust.

51 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:09:55am
52 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:11:19am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Good call.

53 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:11:25am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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Yeah even if I were a conservative, there’s not a person there whose hand I would be proud to shake and have my photo taken with. CPAC becomes a greater and greater freakshow every year and it’s only going to get worse as the so-cons realize how isolated they are.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:11:29am

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Still not seeing any confirmation but the reports are circulation

55 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:13:22am
56 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:14:11am
57 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:14:36am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

google translate
translate.google.com

58 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:15:44am


Sevastopol Russian soldiers stormed the Ukrainian military unit A2355. About this informed the Assistant on duty …

59 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:15:51am
60 nines09  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:16:10am

I would watch CPAC if I had no self respect. These people are the depths of society. I’ll read what they pinch off, to see it live would cause me brain damage.

61 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:17:22am

Twitter has a translate feature…

62 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:18:02am

Looks as though the Russians have bought themselves another “leader”.

Crimea solidifies ties with Russia ahead of referendum on leaving Ukraine

washingtonpost.com

SEVASTOPOL, Ukraine — Russia and Crimea moved to solidify ties Friday as pro-Russia parties in Crimea planned campaigns for a referendum on splitting from Ukraine and Moscow enthusiastically greeted a visiting Crimean delegation.

(snip)

“In Moscow, a Crimean delegation led by Volodymyr Konstantynov, head of Crimea’s regional parliament, was applauded by Russian parliamentarians a day after Crimean lawmakers voted to join Russia and validate the decision in a referendum. Konstantynov said the autonomous republic will hold an “honest and transparent” referendum on its status in the presence of observers from Russia and other countries.”

63 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:18:22am

re: #60 nines09

Yeah, I can’t bring myself to watch. Hard enough to watch stuff like Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC, watching CPAC would probably cause vomitting, anal leakage, and brain Hemorrhages.

64 b.d.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:19:03am

In Russian Crimea, Friday news dumps you.

65 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:19:33am

66 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:20:05am
67 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:20:43am

re: #65 Gus

Yes, TweetDeck also has a translation feature. Comes in handy, but it’s not infallible.

68 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:21:13am

US Fighter Jets sent to Baltic States after they Invoke NATO Treaty

Fun times.

69 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:21:50am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Yes, TweetDeck also has a translation feature. Comes in handy, but it’s not infallible.

No way! //

70 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:22:33am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Rate of cognitive dissonance increasing to one per sentence.

What happens when it reduces to a short phrase, or (gasp) a single word?

Edited to add: “Islamo-athetist?”

71 iossarian  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:22:55am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Part of the reason America is so great is that we have the sages of CPAC steering us away from such calamitous fates as two men living together and school days beginning without a prayerful moment.

72 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:23:00am

re: #68 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

US Fighter Jets sent to Baltic States after they Invoke NATO Treaty

Fun times.

That brings the total up to 10 fighter jets. Barley qualifies as a symbolic show of force.

73 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:23:45am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

If I want my Russian news translated, mangled, mixed up, whirred peas, I’ll get it from Russia Today. /

74 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:24:21am

re: #70 chadu

Rate of cognitive dissonance increasing to one per sentence.

What happens when it reduces to a short phrase, or (gasp) a single word?

You will reach the “Cognitive Singularity”, and the combined derp will self absorb itself into a 50 ft tall Michelle Bachmann.

Pray to all you hold holy this never occurs.

RBS

75 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:24:40am
76 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:24:45am

2:14 PM: 20 Russian troops inside, moving toward command post of Crimea base, guarded by 100 Ukrainian troops. t.co

2:02 PM: Crimea TV reporting that Russians have begun storming Ukraine air-force base on the peninsula, ramming the gates with a truck. pravda.com.ua

77 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:25:02am

Ex-U.S. ambassador: Diplomatic pressure unlikely to sway Russia

“At the end of the day, Putin will be willing to make the economic sacrifice if he wants to go ahead with the annexation strategy,” he said.

78 Zamb  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:25:25am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Because those pesky liberals hold us back by making us abide by laws and morals. Don’t they know that we are automatically moral and good because Jesus said so?

79 Ian G.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:25:35am

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Which elderly white right-wing dude is this one? They’re all starting to look the same to me.

80 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:26:16am

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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I swear I saw that same jacket in a listing in the “The Stockroom” catalog. (Really, I’m just looking for some hardware)

RBS

81 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:26:24am

5 канал - ефір наживо / 5 канал (Украина) - прямой эфир / 5 channel LIVE

Youtube Video

82 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:26:25am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Barley qualifies as a symbolic show of force.

I love that typo.

Makes it sound like some kind of ancient, arcane ritual of insult.

83 jaunte  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:26:29am

re: #79 Ian G.

That’s Foster “The Aspirin” Friess.

84 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:26:39am
85 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:27:01am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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That’s a common theme. AMERICA FUCK YEAH BUT ALSO AMERICA IS FUCKED BECAUSE THE QUEERZ ARE ALLOWED TO MARRY NOW.

86 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:27:16am

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

I love that typo.

Makes it sound like some kind of ancient, arcane ritual of insult.

lol

87 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:27:32am

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

Everything else about this situation makes me want to curl up in a ball.

Thanks to everyone relaying news from Twitter and other media.

88 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:27:50am

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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Maybe on the Metro. Otherwise not bloody likely.

89 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:28:13am

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

I love that typo.

Makes it sound like some kind of ancient, arcane ritual of insult.

Would make a nice toast

90 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:29:06am
91 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:29:10am
92 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:30:09am

re: #91 Kragar

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That Timmy O’Toole’s a hero. He fell down a well!

93 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:30:19am

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

I love that typo.

Makes it sound like some kind of ancient, arcane ritual of insult.

“Pelt them with barley, then we prepare for war.” - King Wulfgar the Mad

94 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:30:58am

Via Gawker, but looks like Jimmy O’Keefe’s got an eye for picking winners to work for him. One of his current employees is a former felon, whose tasks include coming up with the grifts/scams that O’Keefe now films and edits to try and stoke conservative angst.

He sure knows how to pick ‘em.

95 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:31:50am

re: #94 lawhawk

Via Gawker, but looks like Jimmy O’Keefe’s got an eye for picking winners to work for him. One of his current employees is a former felon, whose tasks include coming up with the grifts/scams that O’Keefe now films and edits to try and stoke conservative angst.

He sure knows how to pick ‘em.

Well takes one to know one.

96 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:31:58am
97 jaunte  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:33:04am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

He’s getting more Russian every day.

98 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:33:17am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

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Imagine his shock when he finds out that nearly all those nations with a sizeable intelligence budget spy on us too.

99 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:33:24am
100 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:34:02am
101 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:34:19am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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Truly inspirational. Right up there with his speech where he called the president a snob for wanting post secondary educational opportunities for all American children.

102 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:34:54am

re: #100 Kragar

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Yeah Rick we have to elect a social fascist like you in order to be saved, I get it.

103 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:34:58am
104 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:35:09am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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He thinks the only reason the GOP keeps loosing is the the huge number of “real Americans” who stay home because the candidates aren’t conservative enough.

105 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:35:50am
106 b.d.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:35:50am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

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Well not ALL of Europe, Eddie won’t talk about the US spying on, say, European Russia.

107 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:36:18am

re: #104 Kragar

He thinks the only reason the GOP keeps loosing is the the huge number of “real Americans” who stay home because the candidates aren’t conservative enough.

I guess they forget that the other side votes too and would be equally strongly motivated to send their true conservative back to the past where he belongs.

108 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:36:29am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

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Just in time. Hey, Germany is more concerned about the NSA listening to Merkel’s shopping plans in Ireland. The UK doesn’t give a crap about Ukraine. About the only country so far that’s concerned seems to be Poland and the USA.

109 b.d.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:37:40am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

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Snowden did not reveal any new information in the testimony

Read more: upi.com

One trick pony

110 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:38:09am

If Santorum wants to see why he’s full of shit, he needs to look at where his Virginian clone Cuccinelli failed miserably against one of the most unlikable people I’ve ever seen run on a Democratic ticket here.

111 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:38:11am

re: #108 Gus

Just wait for Greenwald to dig up something implicating the US and Poland working on spycraft, sharing intel, or otherwise doing whatever it is that allies do to keep each other safe.

112 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:38:21am

re: #108 Gus

Just in time. Hey, Germany is more concerned about the NSA listening to Merkel’s shopping plans in Ireland. The UK doesn’t give a crap about Ukraine. About the only country so far that’s concerned seems to be Poland and the USA.

Germany is concerned about the 25% of their natural gas supply that comes from Russia.

113 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:38:25am

re: #109 b.d.

One trick pony

Noun, verb, spying bad.

114 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:39:22am
115 Skip Intro  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:39:40am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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I thought Medved was supposed to be the smart one.

116 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:39:54am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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This is great news for John Mitt McCain and Sarah Paul Ryan.

117 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:40:36am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Did he wear last year’s sweater vest with last year’s speech in the pocket?

118 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:40:57am
119 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:41:30am

re: #117 wrenchwench

Did he wear last year’s sweater vest with last year’s speech in the pocket?

Probably, just like Wayne LaPierre replaced Clnton’s name with Obama’s for his. It’d be sad if it weren’t so funny.

120 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:41:40am

Rush Limbaugh, Anti-Vaxxer

121 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:41:43am

re: #112 wrenchwench

Germany is concerned about the 25% of their natural gas supply that comes from Russia.

35% is what I saw. But yes.

122 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:42:05am

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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Well he’s right. They’re not a religion. They’re an ideological cult who thinks their ideology is always right and any other ideology is demonic.

123 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:42:52am
124 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:43:14am

re: #120 Kragar

Rush Limbaugh, Anti-Vaxxer

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So much for the mainstream right not espousing htat crap.

125 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:43:48am

re: #123 Charles Johnson

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Yet: DOOOOMED!

126 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:44:28am

re: #120 Kragar

Rush Limbaugh, Anti-Vaxxer

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But mandatory vaginal probes are for your own good.

127 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:44:29am

re: #125 wrenchwench

Yet: DOOOOMED!

and not doomed because of people not insured on health care or getting a good education but because gays and women choosing how they want to control their own bodies! HORROR!

128 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:44:38am

A vote for any republican is a vote to allow the crazies control of the GOP.

129 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:44:42am
130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:45:08am

re: #100 Kragar

Electing a moderate would be “a win for a GOP candidate but a devastating loss for America,” says Rick Santorum at

This has been one of the key statements and sentiments uttered at CPAC and will set the stage for the 2016 Clown Show and Race to the Bottom

131 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:45:59am
132 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:46:38am
133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:46:56am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Santorum spreading his message: “When the home breaks down, the economy breaks down.”

I can even agree with that sentiment to a degree. But I certainly do not agree with Santorum’s proposals to fix it, which seem to involve keeping women at home, barefoot and pregnant.

134 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:47:00am
135 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:47:02am
136 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:47:29am

re: #131 Gus

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137 Zamb  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:47:37am

re: #120 Kragar

Trying to peel off those anti vac liberals. See their crazy fear mongering is helping them with outreach. Personally I’m fine with any anti science mutters leaving the party.

138 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:48:34am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I can even agree with that sentiment to a degree. But I certainly do not agree with Santorum’s proposals to fix it, which seem to involve keeping women at home, barefoot and pregnant.

As Paul Ryan told us, real love is your kid getting a lunch in a brown paper bag, filled with the love of a barefoot woman with no reproductive rights who can’t leave the kitchen.

139 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:48:46am
140 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:48:49am
141 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:49:32am

re: #140 Gus

I enjoyed that movie.

142 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:50:28am

re: #141 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I enjoyed that movie.

So did I. Can’t recall the name of it right now, but I remember the kid.

143 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:50:51am
144 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:52:14am

Great. NSC account is Tweeting about coffee and beer right now.

145 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:53:47am
146 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:54:00am
147 Skip Intro  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:54:20am

CPAC Panelist: It Is ‘A Liberal Lie’ That States Ban Gay Marriage

Conservative radio host Michael Medved said Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference that no state has ever banned gay marriage and any claim to the contrary is “a liberal lie.”

“There has never been a state in this country that has ever banned gay marriage,” Medved said during a panel titled “Can Libertarians and Social Conservatives Ever Get Along?” after another panelist referenced historical discrimination against LGBT couples. “That is a liberal lie.”

So much for me thinking Medved was the smart one.

“To be clear: 30 states have banned same-sex marriage in their state constitution, usually by legally defining marriage as between a man and a woman, according to the Human Rights Campaign.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

148 Gus  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:54:55am

SMH

149 Skip Intro  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:56:00am

re: #120 Kragar

Rush Limbaugh, Anti-Vaxxer

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Can this guy be a bigger asshole?

Stupid question. Of course he can.

150 Testy Toad T  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:57:09am

Wait, we want the White House to be talking about international affairs and a superpower the brink of war over Twitter!?

I hope they have that social media intern do nothing but blather about beer and coffee all day, and leave the actual affairs of state to grown-ups with grown-up press releases and grown-up press conferences.

Jeebus.

151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:57:13am

re: #138 The Ghost of a Flea

As Paul Ryan told us, real love is your kid getting a lunch in a brown paper bag, filled with the love of a barefoot woman with no reproductive rights who can’t leave the kitchen.

She can, too, leave the kitchen, to get to bedroom to satisfy her husband’s manly needs…

152 iossarian  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:58:52am

re: #150 Testy Toad T

Wait, we want the White House to be talking about international affairs and a superpower the brink of war over Twitter!?

I hope they have that social media intern do nothing but blather about beer and coffee all day, and leave the actual affairs of state to grown-ups with grown-up press releases and grown-up press conferences.

Jeebus.

If I ever want a funny picture of a cat, or some BREAKING news that has a 50% chance of being correct, I always go straight to Twitter.

153 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:01:34pm


Crimean irregulars?

154 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:02:57pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

This is something I’d ask of any right wing nutjob who purports to love Israel and think of them as a great ally. I’ll throw in the UK and Canada as well as top allies who allow openly gay men and women to serve in their armed forces and do quite well. Do wingnuts really want us to resemble Iran when it comes to letting gay individuals serve their country?

I suspect that they would think that the only thing the Mullahs need to correct is to replace Allah with Jesus.

155 Testy Toad T  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:03:21pm

re: #154 aagcobb

I suspect that they would think that the only thing the Mullahs need to correct is to replace Allah with Jesus.

They’d need some skinbleach for everyone, and they’d all need to start speaking ‘Murrican, but you’re essentially correct.

156 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:03:42pm
157 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:03:49pm

re: #153 NJDhockeyfan

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Crimean irregulars?

I think that’s going to be the Russian tactic to maintain some sort of legitimacy. Ukrainian militias will do most of the more confrontational stuff while the Russians play a support/backup role.

158 dog philosopher  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:03:51pm

Why Do ‘Conservatives’ Whine So Much?

shocking story reveals hints and tricks for shepherding them through the ‘terrible twos’

159 iossarian  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:04:05pm

I think we should totally dispatch ground troops to Crimea, because that’s worked so well in the past:

en.wikipedia.org

160 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:04:20pm

re: #153 NJDhockeyfan

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Crimean irregulars?

Is that what they’re calling Russians out of their regular uniforms today?

161 dog philosopher  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:04:48pm

re: #146 Gus

Beer will be one case Honey Porter and one case Honey Blonde

you left out pussy galore

162 dog philosopher  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:08:05pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Santorum spreading his message: “When the home breaks down, the economy breaks down.”

where were these morons in the 1980s when housing, medical care/insurance, and college costs were getting so out of whack with earnings that it became necessary for most families to have two income earners to survive?

oh yeah, i remember: they were whining about high taxes on millionaires

163 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:10:02pm

U.S. Geological Survey confirms: Human activity caused 5.7 quake in Oklahoma

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) issued a press release yesterday indicating that the magnitude 5.7 earthquake that struck Prague, Oklahoma in 2011 was unintentionally human-induced.

The USGS claims that the magnitude 5.0 earthquake triggered by waste-water injection the previous day “trigger[ed] a cascade of earthquakes, including a larger one, [which] has important implications for reducing the seismic risk from waste-water injection.”

164 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:12:31pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Fox’s Oliver North: Obama using soldiers as lab rats in gay ‘radical social experiment’

It’s been said before, but needs repeating.

This is the Reagan National Security Council member who sold US weapons to Iran to gain release of US hostages held hostage by Iranian Proxies in Lebanon, who in turn took more US hostages to gain more weaponry from the US for Iran.

Then skimmed money off the top, to engage in illegal arms sales to Nicaraguan rebels.

165 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:14:56pm

re: #63 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah, I can’t bring myself to watch. Hard enough to watch stuff like Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC, watching CPAC would probably cause vomitting, anal leakage, and brain Hemorrhages.

Charles watches, so that we don’t have to.

166 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:15:19pm
167 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:15:40pm
168 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:17:22pm

Wingnuts are so fucking stupid I just can’t even. WTFITS.

169 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:18:45pm
170 aagcobb  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:19:57pm

re: #104 Kragar

He thinks the only reason the GOP keeps loosing is the the huge number of “real Americans” who stay home because the candidates aren’t conservative enough.

They should nominate Bryan Fischer then, and watch him roll to landslide victory./

171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:27:21pm

re: #104 Kragar

He thinks the only reason the GOP keeps loosing is the the huge number of “real Americans” who stay home because the candidates aren’t conservative enough.

It worked in 2004, they do not unerstand why it failed in 2008 and 2012…must be the party’s fault for nominating all those moderates.

172 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:29:32pm

Behind the curtain: who’s really sponsoring CPAC.

It’s not grassroots organizations. It’s big energy companies, tobacco, and the NRA.

Rarely seen and previously unreported tax filings for the ACU and ACU Foundation, the group responsible for staging CPAC, reveal that in the 2010 tax year, the National Rifle Association provided $225,000 of the ACU Foundation’s overall revenue. In 2010 the ACU Foundation reported $288,670 in grant revenue and $1,063,103 in “program service revenue.” The NRA’s executive vice president and CEO, Wayne LaPierre, has been a regular featured speaker at past CPAC events and he again spoke at the gathering on Thursday. The 2013 CPAC included an event titled “NRA University” at which CPAC attendees could “learn more about NRA, Second Amendment, gun control debate.” It even offered participants “a FREE one-year NRA membership,” according to the conference schedule. The NRA is a “presenting sponsor” at the 2014 conference—a sponsorship level requiring a $110,000 contribution.

In 2010 the billionaire Koch brothers’ companies contributed a total of $50,000 to the ACU and the ACU Foundation. In the same year, cigarette giant Altria contributed $25,000 to the ACU, and the conservative Anschutz Foundation contributed $25,000 to the ACU Foundation.

So, if you’ve wondered why Wayne LaPierre gets to scowl and complain and cajole the audience to buy guns before the President takes them away, it’s because the NRA paid for the spot.

Here’s the list of other sponsors, and lots of familiar names.

Sponsorship levels:

Presenting Sponsor: $110,000
Associate Sponsor: $60,000
Supporting Sponsor: $25,000
Contributing Sponsor: $18,000
Participating Sponsor: $9,000

(and yes, I’m paging this).

173 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:33:34pm
174 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:34:30pm

So yesterday Paul Ryan ran his yap about school lunches and kids who get them being unloved. And he told some story that supposedly came from a member of Scott Walker’s administration about a kid in the lunch program who told this person he wanted a paper bag lunch from home and not a school lunch because it meant someone at home cared about him. Well, as per usual, Ryan is a lying sack of crap. The story comes from this book and it was taken out of context. It’s a book that’s about showing compassion toward those with less than you have and understanding that in doing so we find we have more in common, not less.

These assholes really need to spend about a year figuring out how to pay bills and feed their families on minimum wage and STFU and quit vilifying the poor. God this pisses me off.

175 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:35:39pm

You know, if it weren’t for David Sirota I might actually enjoy PandoDaily. He’s attacking PBS again for their funders, with absolutely no evidence that there’s been any attempt to exert editorial control.

This guy is a hack of the worst kind.

176 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:38:31pm

PBS didn’t “hide” anything. They have private deals with funders that they’re under no obligation to disclose, and they’ve stated outright that these funders have NO editorial influence.

We have concluded that the time has come to find a new, long-term home for The NewsHour. The current operation has worked beautifully because our long-time partnership with Liberty Media has been as perfect as any such relationship could be. When Liberty acquired its majority interest in MLP 18 years ago it was done with the agreement that editorial control and management would always rest with us-Robert MacNeil and Jim Lehrer, individually. Liberty has honored that arrangement in such a way that has made it possible for us to have the independence we all have enjoyed all these years.

This is just another rotten smear job.

177 ObserverArt  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:39:35pm

Rick Santorum and the Rand Paul Experience

Laddies and Gentleman of CPAC…tonight, live on stage…

Rick Santorum and The Rand Paul Experience.

Doing material from the new Album “Are You the Republican Experience?”

Hat tip for the idea from Charles in his write up of this thread…

178 Ian G.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:43:58pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

Rick Santorum and the Rand Paul Experience

Laddies and Gentleman of CPAC…tonight, live on stage…

>Rick Santorum and The Rand Paul Experience.

Doing material from the new Album “Are You the Republican Experience?”

Hat tip for the idea from Charles in his write up of this thread…

I don’t think there’s enough LSD in the world to make this listenable.

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:44:14pm

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

I love that typo.

Makes it sound like some kind of ancient, arcane ritual of insult.

Beer!!!!

180 Ian G.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:45:33pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

I don’t have the evidence handy, but I am…..highly skeptical of the claim that it’s better to be poor in rural West Virginia or inner-city Baltimore than it is to be poor in Denmark or Switzerland.

181 iossarian  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:45:58pm

re: #180 Ian G.

I don’t have the evidence handy, but I am…..highly skeptical of the claim that it’s better to be poor in rural West Virginia or inner-city Baltimore than it is to be poor in Denmark or Switzerland.

Yeah but freedom. Think of that.

182 Ian G.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:46:29pm

re: #146 Gus

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Elitist lib’rul beer! Reagan would have made Coors Light!

183 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:46:59pm

re: #180 Ian G.

I don’t have the evidence handy, but I am…..highly skeptical of the claim that it’s better to be poor in rural West Virginia or inner-city Baltimore than it is to be poor in Denmark or Switzerland.

Hey now, of course the poor have it better here. They can buy all the guns they want!

184 RadicalModerate  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:47:31pm

re: #147 Skip Intro

>CPAC Panelist: It Is ‘A Liberal Lie’ That States Ban Gay Marriage

So much for me thinking Medved was the smart one.

“To be clear: 30 states have banned same-sex marriage in their state constitution, usually by legally defining marriage as between a man and a woman, according to the Human Rights Campaign.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

Next, he’s going to try to tell us that no states ever banned interracial marriage either.

Hey, if you want to go for the big lie, may as well go all in.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:48:10pm

re: #132 Gus

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hey! it was a jrrbs program!!11!!

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186 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:51:06pm

re: #174 A Mom Anon

So yesterday Paul Ryan ran his yap about school lunches and kids who get them being unloved. And he told some story that supposedly came from a member of Scott Walker’s administration about a kid in the lunch program who told this person he wanted a paper bag lunch from home and not a school lunch because it meant someone at home cared about him. Well, as per usual, Ryan is a lying sack of crap. The story comes from this book and it was taken out of context. It’s a book that’s about showing compassion toward those with less than you have and understanding that in doing so we find we have more in common, not less.

These assholes really need to spend about a year figuring out how to pay bills and feed their families on minimum wage and STFU and quit vilifying the poor. God this pisses me off.

IF these assholes had to go on government assitance, they’d be the first ones complaining about cuts to those programs. Paul Ryan is the ultimate fuck you, I got mine type of conservative. He had no problem using the system to help pay for his education but he doesn’t want other people to enjoy the same programs he did. In short, he’s a sleazy hypocrite.

187 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:52:04pm

Justice can move slowly, but it can come:

The former leader of the Front for Patriotic Resistance in Ituri, Germain Katanga, is found guilty in the International Criminal Court for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

188 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:52:42pm

re: #187 The War TARDIS

Justice can move slowly, but it can come:

Rwandan genocide related?

189 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:53:00pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Yeah, that’s about the nicest thing you can say about the little shit. There are days when I wish Karma worked just a tad faster.

190 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:54:32pm

re: #189 A Mom Anon

Yeah, that’s about the nicest thing you can say about the little shit. There are days when I wish Karma worked just a tad faster.

I really hope some bad fortune befalls him and he has to rely on the same programs he spent a career trying to ruin. These guys have no compassion for the lttle guy.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:54:43pm

re: #183 Kragar

Hey now, of course the poor have it better here. They can buy all the guns they want!

With their food stamps!!11!!

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:57:47pm

Well, after weeks (nay months!) of wretched winter weather, it’s a gorgeous 60F and sunny here in the backwoods today.
MrBWS was starting to build me a new little greenhouse when the phone rang…
He’s on his way to North Carolina where there are 400,000+ customers without power after last night and this morning’s ice/sleet storm.
And he wasn’t home for even 24 hours yet…

sigh…

193 b.d.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:58:47pm

OK, L out f*cking L

194 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:59:09pm

re: #91 Kragar

NO ONE!

195 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:59:36pm

Wingnut America where it’s acceptable to complain about the poor being able to survive and where it’s not acceptable to point out wealth disparity.

196 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 12:59:43pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Related to this conflict in the mid-2000’s.

His actions he was just found guilty on:

In early 2003, he emerged as the senior commander of the FRPI,[2] a militia group which was involved in the conflict in Ituri. On 24 February 2003, Katanga allegedly led an attack on the village of Bogoro in which rebels under his command went on an “indiscriminate killing spree”,[2] killing at least 200 civilians, imprisoning survivors in a room filled with corpses, and sexually enslaving women and girls.[1] It has also been alleged that Katanga helped lead other crimes, including the massacre of more than 1,200 civilians in an attack at Nyakunde Hospital in September 2002.[4]

197 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:00:19pm

re: #196 The War TARDIS

Related to this conflict in the mid-2000’s.

His actions he was just found guilty on:

Ah Congo. I really need to learn more about African geopolitics. Part of the world I really have not read a ton on.

198 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:01:09pm

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

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Next up: Edward Snowden reports “water is fuckin’ wet, y’all”; submits 12-page testimony to EU lawmakers.

Back to you, Ron.

199 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:02:01pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Strike that; reverse it. /wonka

200 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:02:20pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Aww, that man deserves a raise and a double paid vacation for all the work he’s done this Winter. Without people like him, we’d all be screwed. I am truly grateful for people who do that work.

I haz a jealous. A greenhouse? Sigh. I wish.

201 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:02:25pm

These people are such fucking egomaniacs, it’s amazing. They really think the whole world should idolize them.

202 b.d.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:03:41pm

The antithesis of what SXSW started out to be:

Doritos is bringing Lady Gaga to SXSW on Thursday, March 13 to perform for the Born This Way Foundation Night on the Doritos #BoldStage. For that concert only, the #BoldStage will be located at Stubb’s at 8th and Red River.

kvue.com

However, not all of Gaga’s Little Monsters can get in. SXSW says Gaga’s fans and SXSW badge holders alike must complete a “bold mission for the chance to get a ticket.” The concert is open to SXSW Platinum and Music registrants along with those who have music festival or artist wristbands.

203 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:04:06pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I guess they forget that the other side steals all them there votes too because of ACORN and would be equally strongly motivated to send their vote for a true conservative back to the past where he belongs if liberals didn’t give them free stuff.

FTFY.

204 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:04:24pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

One of the big things the US could do to enhance its position in the world is to hand Henry Kissinger over to France.

205 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:06:59pm

Speaking of “giving free stuff for votes,” RWNJ conservatives…

Well, if it works like you claim it does, why not give free stuff to people* so you get into office?

I mean, from a totally pragmatic perspective.

No /.

* Non-corporate people, I should point out. Giving corporate people free stuff seems to be losing its bang for the buck over time at the federal level, eh?

Plenty of /, but doesn’t mean it’s not true.

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:07:34pm

re: #200 A Mom Anon

Aww, that man deserves a raise and a double paid vacation for all the work he’s done this Winter. Without people like him, we’d all be screwed. I am truly grateful for people who do that work.

I haz a jealous. A greenhouse? Sigh. I wish.

I had a nice greenhouse attached to the south side of the house, but it got seriously damaged in a hail storm a few years ago. I’ve been limping along with that one ever since but it’s so falling apart now that it’s pretty useless.
Love to get stuff like greens, cabbages, broccoli, etc. started in February.
Oh well…

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:07:55pm

re: #180 Ian G.

I don’t have the evidence handy, but I am…..highly skeptical of the claim that it’s better to be poor in rural West Virginia or inner-city Baltimore than it is to be poor in Denmark or Switzerland.

Yeah, they’re poor, but they’re still Americans, in Scandinavia, they take your soul before they give you a decent place to live and enough to eat.

208 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:08:29pm

re: #109 b.d.

Snowden did not reveal any new information in the testimony

One trick pony

Shock, shock,
Horror, horror,
Shock, shock, horror.

209 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:08:37pm

re: #204 The War TARDIS

One of the big things the US could do to enhance its position in the world is to hand Henry Kissinger over to France.

Don’t hold your breath though Kissinger is definitely a crook.

210 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:09:08pm
211 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:09:27pm

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, they’re poor, but they’re still Americans, in Scandinavia, they take your soul before they give you a decent place to live and enough to eat.

They make you eat the Swedish chef’s food too, crazy commie Scandoviking bastards.

212 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:09:36pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Probably, just like Wayne LaPierre replaced Clnton’s name with Obama’s for his. It’d be sad if it weren’t so funny.

Strike that; reverse it. /wonka

213 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:09:48pm

re: #204 The War TARDIS

One of the big things the US could do to enhance its position in the world is to hand Henry Kissinger over to France.

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Don’t hold your breath though Kissinger is definitely a crook.

Swap for Roman Polanski?

214 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:10:28pm

re: #205 chadu

Speaking of “giving free stuff for votes,” RWNJ conservatives…

Well, if it works like you claim it does, why >not give free stuff to people* so you get into office?

I mean, from a totally pragmatic perspective.

No /.

* Non-corporate people, I should point out. Giving corporate people free stuff seems to be losing its bang for the buck over time at the federal level, eh?

Plenty of /, but doesn’t mean it’s not true.

I like that they complain about giving the poor “free stuff” while their whole tax and regulations policy is a big wet kiss to their corporate donors.

215 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:11:03pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

CPAC bumper music: Huey Lewis, “Power of Love.” Can’t you just feel the love in that room.

…and you can, too, for five dollars. /groucho

216 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:11:14pm

re: #212 chadu

Strike that; reverse it. /wonka

Nah that was intentional. I find it primarily funny that Wayne LaPierre is riling up the NRA with the same tactics he used in the Clinton years.

217 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:12:09pm

re: #213 Political Atheist

Swap for Roman Polanski?

Shrug if that’s what the French would be open for. I was more less saying it’s a pipe dream to hope for such an event though.

218 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:12:28pm

re: #208 chadu

One trick pony

Shock, shock,
Horror, horror,
Shock, shock, horror.

You had to remind me of this.

Youtube Video

219 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:12:31pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

Rick Santorum and the Rand Paul Experience

Laddies and Gentleman of CPAC…tonight, live on stage…

>Rick Santorum and The Rand Paul Experience.

Doing material from the new Album “Are You the Republican Experience?”

Hat tip for the idea from Charles in his write up of this thread…

Tweeted it:

220 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:12:37pm

re: #100 Kragar

Electing a moderate Republican would be “a win for a GOP candidate but a devastating loss for America,” says Rick Santorum at #CPAC2014

FTFY.

Tautologies FTW!

221 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:13:03pm

re: #213 Political Atheist

Could work. We could also give him to Chile.

222 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:13:29pm

re: #221 The War TARDIS

Could work. We could also give him to Chile.

Chlie, East Timor, Cambodia I’m sure all would like a word with Dr. Kissinger.

223 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:13:39pm

re: #218 Kragar

You had to remind me of this.

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I live to serve.

224 freetoken  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:15:08pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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PBS didn’t “hide” anything. They have private deals with funders that they’re under no obligation to disclose, and they’ve stated outright that these funders have NO editorial influence.

This is just another rotten smear job.

Agree.

Still, I don’t like that PBS has to do this kind of approach to financial survival. Even if PBS producers try there best to not be influenced by big money donors, I wonder if there is a cultural influence that still exists. We humans are notorious for being influenced through the subtlest actions.

225 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:15:19pm

re: #138 The Ghost of a Flea

As Paul Ryan told us, real love is your kid getting a lunch in a brown paper bag, filled with the love of a barefoot woman with no reproductive rights who can’t leave the kitchen.

FTFY; the empty brown paper bag is enough because symbolism fills one’s belly more than a free school lunch.

226 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:15:28pm

I’ll admit even though I’m a beer snob and don’t smoke, True Detective makes me want to buy a six pack of Lone Star and pack of smokes and start talking about how human consciousness and stuff. Really going to miss the characters of Rust and Marty after TD ends on Sunday. The show will go on but it’s one of those shows that is anthological so we’ll have new characters and a new location next season.

227 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:16:53pm

re: #140 Gus

SNAFFLED.

228 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:17:45pm

re: #141 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I enjoyed that movie.

title plis?

229 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:19:28pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

What I find amazing is that Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are in a completely different level of their craft from the first time they worked together in EDtv. Fascinating to see.

230 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:19:38pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

We should give him to a place where everyone can ask him questions. France seems to be a good spot.

I think Bangladesh wants to talk to him too.

231 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:19:48pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Now playing: “Can Libertarians and Social Conservatives Ever Get Along?”

Only if they live in a Klein bottle.

232 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:19:50pm

re: #224 freetoken

Agree.

Still, I don’t like that PBS has to do this kind of approach to financial survival. Even if PBS producers try there best to not be influenced by big money donors, I wonder if there is a cultural influence that still exists. We humans are notorious for being influenced through the subtlest actions.

The reason why PBS has been forced to turn to independent donators like this is that the Republican Party has been relentlessly attacking and demonizing them for many years, cutting funding at every opportunity and turning them into a symbol of the culture war.

I agree, it’s a shame that PBS has to do this - but it’s either that or shut down, and I still think we need an outlet like PBS. When people like David Sirota add their smear jobs to the mix, they’re not helping the situation — they’re helping the right wing destroy PBS.

233 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:20:57pm

re: #228 chadu

title plis?

Trick’r Treat

234 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:21:27pm
235 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:22:05pm

re: #163 Varek Raith

U.S. Geological Survey confirms: Human activity caused 5.7 quake in Oklahoma

Physics/Geology has a conservative (actual, not political, definition) bias.

Quarks and cosmic rays and Skydad’s wrath didn’t cause that shit; “injection of waste-water approximately 650 feet away from the Wilzetta fault zone” caused that shit.

Cause and effect, how does it work?

Morans.

236 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:22:55pm

re: #229 lawhawk

What I find amazing is that Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are in a completely different level of their craft from the first time they worked together in EDtv. Fascinating to see.

They were in a movie together? Didn’t know that. What I found interesting is Woody apparently was interested in the role that Matt just won the Oscar for when it was being considered in the 90’s. But yeah both of those guys have come a long way. One weekend I watched Matt’s first movie, Dazed and Confused followed by his Oscar winning flick Dallas Buyers Club and TD. And you just see a great actor. Harrelson’s come a long way too. I mean I enjoyed Natural Born Killers but he’s masterful in this as Detective Hart and I really liked him in Seven Psychopaths too.

237 b.d.  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:23:15pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

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I eagerly await the Ancient Aliens show devoted to that picture.

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238 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:23:36pm

re: #228 chadu

title plis?

Found it: Trick ‘r Treat

239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:24:00pm

re: #238 Kragar

beat ya to it :P

240 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:24:28pm

re: #174 A Mom Anon

So yesterday Paul Ryan ran his yap about school lunches and kids who get them being unloved. And he told some story that supposedly came from a member of Scott Walker’s administration about a kid in the lunch program who told this person he wanted a paper bag lunch from home and not a school lunch because it meant someone at home cared about him. Well, as per usual, Ryan is a lying sack of crap. The story comes from this book and it was taken out of context. It’s a book that’s about showing compassion toward those with less than you have and understanding that in doing so we find we have more in common, not less.

These assholes really need to spend about a year figuring out how to pay bills and feed their families on minimum wage and STFU and quit vilifying the poor. God this pisses me off.

QFT and…

241 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:25:50pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Beg to differ-Awesome unless you know what that was-Creepy. Cats & small critters as incendiary weapons?! WTF.

So, the idea is that you capture a cat from enemy territory, attach a bomb to its back, light the fuse — and hope like hell it runs back home where it starts a raging fire.

io9.com

242 ObserverArt  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:26:17pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Tweeted it:

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Thanks…I don’t do the twitter thang, so let me know if it has any response. That was a fun ‘shop to do. As soon as I saw your intro I had to jump in and do it.

243 Aqua Obama  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:26:39pm

Chetniks? Yeah, that’s right, the guys who massacred Muslims in Yugoslavia are reportedly in Crimea.

244 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:27:07pm

re: #239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

beat ya to it :P

Yeah, got stuck trying to remember who was in it and trying to find it that way.

245 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:27:45pm

re: #243 Aqua Obama

Chetniks? Yeah, that’s right, the guys who massacred Muslims in Yugoslavia are reportedly Crimea.

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Ultra Serb nationalists have since the early 20th century I think always seen Russia as a sort of big brother. Goes back to the Princip assassination of the archduke and maybe eeven further.

246 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:28:25pm

Reports: Journalists beaten in Crimea

The attack took place after Russian soldiers took over a Ukrainian military base in Sevastopol, according to the reports. Officers from both sides were discussing terms of surrender when members of the local Crimea militia began physically attacking journalists, the reports stated.

247 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:28:31pm

re: #241 Political Atheist

Beg to differ-Awesome unless you know what that was-Creepy. Cats & small critters as incendiary weapons?! WTF.

io9.com

Well, that certainly puts a different slant on it.

Humans have often used animals as weapons delivery systems, unfortunately.

248 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:29:11pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

I like that they complain about giving the poor “free stuff” while their whole tax and regulations policy is a big wet kiss to their corporate donors.

That was the point of my footnote, mang… plus the fact that corporate handouts are — in their calculations, by their words — not necessarily turning in grand results on the federal level.

249 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:29:47pm

re: #243 Aqua Obama

They will attempt genocide on the Tatars then.

Sanctions against Serbia now too. Let’s get behind any Muslim groups we can on this, and support the Tatars and other persecuted Muslims in Russia.

250 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:30:02pm

re: #248 chadu

That was the point of my footnote, mang… plus the fact that corporate handouts are — in their calculations, by their words — not necessarily turning in grand results on the federal level.

Ah my bad but yeah. What the hell is this free stuff anyhow. Despite what that lying sack of shit Romney believes, everyone does pay taxes.

251 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:30:16pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Well, that certainly puts a different slant on it.

Humans have often used animals as weapons delivery systems, unfortunately.

The Russian anti-tank dogs of WWII.

252 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:30:50pm

re: #249 The War TARDIS

They will attempt genocide on the Tatars then.

Sanctions against Serbia now too. Let’s get behind any Muslim groups we can on this, and support the Tatars and other persecuted Muslims in Russia.

Relax, you don’t know if these are rogue Serb ultra nationals fighting for Russia like the many foreign volunteers that fought for Afghanistan in the Soviet invasion of that country.

253 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:31:02pm

re: #233 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Trick’r Treat

Thankee! Wishlisted!

254 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:32:06pm

*headdesk*


“Gays have always been able to marry someone of the opposite gender! See? Libruls lie!”

255 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:33:07pm

re: #254 Lidane

*headdesk*

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“Gays have always been able to marry someone of the opposite gender! See? Libruls lie!”

Really Medved really dude? The Bachmann fallacy combined with ignoring how Bush used people like you to get re-elected in the first place. Must be nice to have your head in the clouds.

256 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:33:39pm

re: #244 Kragar

I forgot the title at first then googled “Halloween Movie kid in burlap mask” LOL

257 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:33:56pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Considering Ultra-Nationalist parties won in the last election in Serbia, that doesn’t say much.

Doesn’t change the fact that we need to support the Tatars and Muslims of Russia.

258 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:34:20pm
259 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:34:28pm

re: #253 chadu

Thankee! Wishlisted!

No problem. It was a fun and funny movie IMO.

260 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:34:28pm

re: #257 The War TARDIS

Considering Ultra-Nationalist parties won in the last election in Serbia, that doesn’t say much.

Doesn’t change the fact that we need to support the Tatars and Muslims of Russia.

I am saying you need to prove a connection before you pursue sanctions against the Serbian government.

261 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:35:10pm

re: #258 Lidane

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I’m eagerly awaiting Ted Cruz’s Fredo Corleone moment where he breaks the true conservatives hearts,,

262 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:35:14pm

re: #243 Aqua Obama

Though, I am surprised to see people referred to as Chetniks.

263 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:36:22pm

re: #256 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I forgot the title at first then googled “Halloween Movie kid in burlap mask” LOL

Burlap mask? DOH! I was trying pumpkin costume and got bogged down there before I tried looking up some of the actors.

264 Testy Toad T  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:37:03pm

re: #249 The War TARDIS

They will attempt genocide on the Tatars then.

Sanctions against Serbia now too. Let’s get behind any Muslim groups we can on this, and support the Tatars and other persecuted Muslims in Russia.

I, um, urge cautious and circumspect support of “any Muslim groups” we can get onboard a third-party fight against the Russians.

Oh… no reason.

265 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:37:32pm

Chetniks as I understand it in WWII were Serb monarchists who fought both the Axis and Tito’s multinational partisans. Family lore from my grandfather said his cousin was a part of either them or the Partisans. I lean towards the latter since I have a hard time believing that my Slovene Catholic distant cousins would join a Serb monarchist group given that Yugoslavia in the years before Tito took control was dominated by Belgrade.

266 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:38:03pm

re: #264 Testy Toad T

I, um, urge cautious and circumspect support of “any Muslim groups” we can get onboard a third-party fight against the Russians.

Oh… no reason.

Yeah we don’t want Mujahadeen 2.0.

267 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:38:24pm
268 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:38:49pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I’m eagerly awaiting Ted Cruz’s Fredo Corleone moment where he breaks the true conservatives hearts,,

Can anyone actually break their heart at this point?

The RINO denunciation and disavowal process at this point seems to be perfunctory.

269 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:39:28pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

270 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:41:50pm

re: #267 Lidane

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Shaddup, Great Uncle Mumbles.

271 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:41:58pm

re: #267 Lidane

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McCain’s arguing with himself again since he declared the Cold War over too. He doesn’t belong in the Senate. Do us all a favor and retire Senator McCain, you’re senile.

272 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:42:11pm
273 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:42:21pm

re: #268 The Ghost of a Flea

Can anyone actually break their heart at this point?

The RINO denunciation and disavowal process at this point seems to be perfunctory.

And perfected — No True Scotsman, etc.

274 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:42:23pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

This may make it harder to get Europe to go against Russia though, if past history is any indication. Let’s remember this issue with Bosnia:

In his book The Clinton Tapes: Wrestling History with the President from 2009, historian and author Taylor Branch, a long-time friend of former United States president Bill Clinton, made public more than 70 recorded sessions with the president during his presidency from 1993 through 2001.[54][55] According to a session taped on 14 October 1993, it is stated that:

Clinton said U.S. allies in Europe blocked proposals to adjust or remove the embargo. They justified their opposition on plausible humanitarian grounds, arguing that more arms would only fuel the bloodshed, but privately, said the president, key allies objected that an independent Bosnia would be “unnatural” as the only Muslim nation in Europe. He said they favored the embargo precisely because it locked in Bosnia’s disadvantage. [..] When I expressed shock at such cynicism, reminiscent of the blind-eye diplomacy regarding the plight of Europe’s Jews during World War II, President Clinton only shrugged. He said President François Mitterrand of France had been especially blunt in saying that Bosnia did not belong, and that British officials also spoke of a painful but realistic restoration of Christian Europe. Against Britain and France, he said, German chancellor Helmut Kohl among others had supported moves to reconsider the United Nations arms embargo, failing in part because Germany did not hold a seat on the U.N. Security Council.

Difference here is that, unlike Kohl, Merkel doesn’t give a damn about Muslims.

275 dog philosopher  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:42:35pm

re: #174 A Mom Anon

a kid in the lunch program who told this person he wanted a paper bag lunch from home and not a school lunch because it meant someone at home cared about him

i take this shit personally since my hapless and messed up parents were not bothering much to care about me and i relied on those public school lunches for at least one solid meal per day

276 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:43:58pm

re: #274 The War TARDIS

This may make it harder to get Europe to go against Russia though, if past history is any indication. Let’s remember this issue with Bosnia:

Difference here is that, unlike Kohl, Merkel doesn’t give a damn about Muslims.

Listen I am just saying that before you make economic sanctions against the nation of Serbia, you need to prove that their government was behind this. We don’t need international incidents over rash decisions especially when Serbia surrounds newly sovereign Kosovo.

277 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:45:09pm

re: #268 The Ghost of a Flea

Can anyone actually break their heart at this point?

The RINO denunciation and disavowal process at this point seems to be perfunctory.

I don’t know. My point is I guess whoever they nominate if they lose is somehow not going to ba real conservative. I never thought i’d see it but I saw it with Cuccinnelli here in Va.

278 chadu  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:46:04pm

re: #275 dog philosopher

i take this shit personally since my hapless and messed up parents were not bothering much to care about me and i relied on those public school lunches for at least one solid meal per day

My sister is telling me about students in her grammar school who rely on the school free breakfast/lunch program so much that the nurse packs food from the school donated-food-drive kitchen for some kids to take home over the weekend.

That shit ain’t right, and the state can’t necessarily fix all of it, but trying to minimize or take away what good the state can and is already doing in a shitty situation is soulless and evil.

279 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:46:57pm

Anyhow McCain’s being shallow. Foreign aggression by Russia does not mean the Cold War is still on any more than German aggression in 1939 meant the return of the Hohenzollern monarchy.

280 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:46:59pm

re: #264 Testy Toad T

I, um, urge cautious and circumspect support of “any Muslim groups” we can get onboard a third-party fight against the Russians.

Oh… no reason.

But it worked so well for neo-cons the first time around, both the initial anti-Soviet adventures in Afghanistan, and the blowback from bin Laden et al.

No sarc at all. US conservatism needs existential threats like a fire needs oxygen, and if there are no real existential threats, then they will be created.

281 Mattand  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:47:30pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

The reason why PBS has been forced to turn to independent donators like this is that the Republican Party has been relentlessly attacking and demonizing them for many years, cutting funding at every opportunity and turning them into a symbol of the culture war.

I agree, it’s a shame that PBS has to do this - but it’s either that or shut down, and I still think we need an outlet like PBS. When people like David Sirota add their smear jobs to the mix, they’re not helping the situation — they’re helping the right wing destroy PBS.

The local Philly outlet, WHYY, has been promoting a doc named David Perlmutter during their pledge drives. IIRC, his shtick is claiming that gluten-free diets will cure things like Alzheimer’s.

Early indications are this guy is approaching Dr. Oz status. But when you’re desperate to pay the bills, you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess.

282 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:49:02pm

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Oh, actually, I had a thought and needed a post to respond to.

So, I chose that one. I’m saying that the Big -3 in Europe will be much less willing to help the Ukraine if it would mean protecting Muslims. Because, based off of past history, they will let them get murdered.

Our initial response to Bosnia was one of desperation:

Nonetheless, the United States used both “black” C-130 transports and back channels including Islamist groups to smuggle weapons to Bosnian-Muslim forces via Croatia.[53] Inter Services Intelligence played active role during 1992-1995 and secretly supplied the Muslim fighters with arms, ammunition and guided anti tank missiles to give them a fighting chance against the aggression.

Pakistan should be proud that they saved Bosnia. Very much so.

283 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:49:08pm

BABYMETAL - ギミチョコ！！- Gimme chocolate!!

Youtube Video

284 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:49:37pm

Except they weren’t exactly “unknown”—everyone believes them to be Russian provocateurs.

285 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:51:10pm
286 dog philosopher  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:51:25pm

re: #278 chadu

My sister is telling me about students in her grammar school who rely on the school free breakfast/lunch program so much that the nurse packs food from the school donated-food-drive kitchen >for some kids to take home over the weekend.

That shit ain’t right, and the state can’t necessarily fix all of it, but trying to minimize or take away what good the state can and is already doing in a shitty situation is soulless and evil.

these whiny ‘conservatives’ are always arguing ‘should’, but ‘is’ trumps ‘should’ any day of the week

287 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:51:30pm

re: #283 Killgore Trout

BABYMETAL - ギミチョコ！！- Gimme chocolate!!

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WTF was that?

288 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:51:33pm

re: #283 Killgore Trout

BABYMETAL - ギミチョコ！！- Gimme chocolate!!

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Pretty sure that’s a picture of Jesus strobing in the background

289 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:52:21pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

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That can’t be real. RON PAUL!!! didn’t get any votes.

290 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:52:35pm

re: #287 Justanotherhuman

WTF was that?

Japanese metal has gotten really good lately. There have been a few groups doing good stuff, I like their spin on it.

291 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:55:04pm

re: #288 Killgore Trout

looks like the virgin Mary to me.

292 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:55:18pm

re: #249 The War TARDIS

They will attempt genocide on the Tatars then.

Sanctions against Serbia now too. Let’s get behind any Muslim groups we can on this, and support the Tatars and other persecuted Muslims in Russia.

Turkey’s already speaking up on behalf of the Tatar Muslims; they are, after all, a Turkish people.

293 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:55:43pm

Outages in NC. Not us, although we got a little sleet last night and it stayed cold most of the day. Roads are passable and it’s just water now.

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294 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:56:58pm

Anyone who’s familiar with the differences want to explain to me how Catalan and Spanish language and culture differ. Going to be in Barcelona for a few days and I want to be good to my hosts even if I’ll sound like Aldo Raine speaking Italian.

295 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:57:21pm

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Pretty sure that’s a picture of Jesus strobing in the background

Metal is right up there with contemporary country in my “do not like” list, which isn’t that long, actually.

296 Aqua Obama  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:57:40pm

Burning of Ukrainian books in Sevastopol

Image: GeJ9GWM.jpg

297 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:58:16pm

re: #287 Justanotherhuman

WTF was that?

Powermetal meets J-Pop.

298 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:58:41pm
299 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:58:43pm
300 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:58:53pm

Maximum The Hormone
Youtube Video

Even if you don’t want to watch the whole video it’s worth skipping through to see the different parts of the song

301 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:59:21pm

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but I somehow expect that France, Germany, and the UK will stay silent on this.

302 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:59:29pm

OT Drive-by: With all the talk of the CPAC circus & troubles in Ukraine, mention of the Paralympics in Sochi made me realize I hadn’t thought about the victims of last year’s Boston Marathon bombing in quite a while, so I decided to Google them and see if there was any recent news. It turns out that Esquire published a nice piece back at the end of January.

The Way Back
An extraordinary journey down a river in France, with 114 victims of the Boston Marathon Bombing

That’s all. BBL

303 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:59:38pm

re: #287 Justanotherhuman

WTF was that?

Here’s more.

Youtube Video

304 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:59:50pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Metal is right up there with contemporary country in my “do not like” list, which isn’t that long, actually.

I’m not a big metal fan but I like the Japanese stuff. At least it’s something different

305 Teukka  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 1:59:58pm

re: #296 Aqua Obama

Burning of Ukrainian books in Sevastopol

Image: GeJ9GWM.jpg

“Where books are burned, so are people.”

One lesson which can be learned from history.

306 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:00:12pm

This is great:

307 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:00:26pm

re: #301 The War TARDIS

Yeah, but I somehow expect that France, Germany, and the UK will stay silent on this.

Hard to say at this point.

308 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:00:41pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Youtube Video

309 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:01:07pm

re: #306 Lidane

This is great:

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And here I thought Holder didn’t have a sense of humor. But yeah Jindal should actually read about segregation before the dumb fuck compares POTUS and the administration to George Wallace.

310 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:01:25pm

HURR HURR!!!!

311 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:02:08pm

re: #308 Kragar

I listen to Power Metal and Folk Metal apparently.

312 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:02:29pm

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

Hard to say at this point.

Speaking of Germany, did Merkel have her re-election yet? I know she’s considered a virtual shoe in and I know Hollande in France was re-elected and I think Cameron is PM at least for the next couple years. Not sure how popular he is. Yet anotehr thing to get a gauge on when I am overseas this summer.

313 Aqua Obama  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:02:41pm

re: #305 Teukka

“Where books are burned, so are people.”

One lesson which can be learned from history.

It’s a pretty hot XTC song too.

314 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:03:06pm

re: #311 The War TARDIS

I listen to Power Metal and Folk Metal apparently.

Classic and Thrash for me

315 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:03:25pm

re: #303 Dr Lizardo

Here’s more.

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No, thanks, I’m way beyond that.

316 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:04:04pm

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Yep.Right now there is a CDU-SPD coalition.

Merkel is still Chancellor.

317 simoom  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:04:15pm

I’m glad Rand was specific enough to be easily proven completely uninformed:

mediaite.com

“We won’t trade our liberty for security,” Paul said, setting the overarching theme of the speech: “Not now, not ever.”

He railed against the National Security Agency’s controversial phone metadata collection, telling the crowd: “If you have a cell phone, you are under surveillance. I believe what you do on your cell phone is none of their damn business.”

WSJ: NSA Collects 20% or Less of U.S. Call Data, Program Doesn’t Cover Records for Most Cellphones

The program had been described as collecting records on virtually every phone call placed in the U.S., but in fact, it doesn’t cover records for most cellphones, the fastest-growing sector in telephony and an area where the agency has struggled to keep pace, according to several people familiar with the program.

The dwindling coverage suggests the NSA’s program is less pervasive than widely believed and also less useful.

…

The agency’s legal orders to U.S. phone companies don’t cover most cellphone records, a gap the NSA has been trying to address for years.

[edit: Oops, I initially used Reddit markup for this post. Fixed :P]

318 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:04:30pm

re: #304 Killgore Trout

I’m not a big metal fan but I like the Japanese stuff. At least it’s something different

My favorite was Cigaretteman.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

319 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:04:59pm

re: #316 The War TARDIS

Yep.Right now there is a CDU-SPD coalition.

Merkel is still Chancellor.

What the deutsch. CDU-SPD coalition. But yeah I’m not surprised that she won.

320 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:05:22pm

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Cameron is likely to get booted on his arse, and the Scotland Referendum will likely fail.

321 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:05:35pm

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Speaking of Germany, did Merkel have her re-election yet? I know she’s considered a virtual shoe in and I know Hollande in France was re-elected and I think Cameron is PM at least for the next couple years. Not sure how popular he is. Yet anotehr thing to get a gauge on when I am overseas this summer.

She won handily - the CDU came within a whisker of an outright majority in the Bundestag.

322 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:06:20pm

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

I would hate to be a Muslim in most of Europe. I feel safer as a Muslim in the US.

323 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:06:21pm

re: #304 Killgore Trout

I’m not a big metal fan but I like the Japanese stuff. At least it’s something different

More of a fan of Japanese rock

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324 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:06:28pm

re: #318 Dr Lizardo

My favorite was Cigaretteman.

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I like it. Sounds like something Weezer would do.

325 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:06:34pm

re: #320 The War TARDIS

Cameron is likely to get booted on his arse, and the Scotland Referendum will likely fail.

Dave or Ed Milbrand is the Labour opp leader right?

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:07:01pm

re: #308 Kragar

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Oh, that’s good. I need to put on some BOC in it’s honor.

327 Aqua Obama  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:07:18pm

re: #320 The War TARDIS

Cameron is likely to get booted on his arse, and the Scotland Referendum will likely fail.

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328 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:07:24pm

re: #304 Killgore Trout

I’m not a big metal fan but I like the Japanese stuff. At least it’s something different

There’s still some good metal out there. Admittedly I stopped listening to most of the big names when they all went way too commercial.

Now I mostly listen to industrial and EDM/EBM. Going to be going to a concert in April to see Combichrist, Suicide Commando, Aesthetic Perfection and one other (can’t remember the last band).

Saw Rammstein back in 2011 and it was an awesome show.

329 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:08:13pm

re: #323 Kragar

More of a fan of Japanese rock

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lol. I like it.

330 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:08:31pm

re: #327 Aqua Obama

Link borked.

331 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:08:32pm

re: #286 dog philosopher

There’s a program called Blessings in a Backpack that sends home food to kids in need on Fridays because a lot of kids go hungry on the weekends. It truly sucks that something like that has to exist in the first fucking place.

I’m sorry your parents weren’t there for you, I hope you’re ok now. I just wish conservative buttheads like those at CPAC would understand that poverty isn’t limited to people who don’t care or aren’t trying, and that it’s just plain evil to punish everyone when in most homes it’s not that way. Not to even mention that the amount of money spent on these things is paltry compared to corporate tax loopholes, offshoring money by rich people, waste in defense contracts, and the salaries of lazy fucking congresspeople.

332 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:08:35pm

re: #317 simoom

I’m glad Rand was specific enough to be easily proven completely uninformed:

mediaite.com

[WSJ: NSA Collects 20% or Less of U.S. Call Data, Program Doesn’t Cover Records for Most Cellphones](online.wsj.com

Wish that dude would shut up on this one. He’s getting in the way of legit reform.

333 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:09:06pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

I like it. Sounds like something Weezer would do.

They were really good. They broke up quite a while ago, but they had some great sounds.

334 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:09:31pm

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

She won handily - the CDU came within a whisker of an outright majority in the Bundestag.

Gotcha. Not surprised since my understanding she was that she was quite popular. I was glad Sarkozy lost in France. Really need to read more on current European leaders. I’m always interested in seeing how our leaders interact with their counterparts. Always amuses me that Blair a Labour PM got on well with Bush while Cameron a Conservative PM and Obama seem to get on

335 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:09:45pm

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Ed Miliband

David is now President of the International Rescue Committee.

336 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:10:28pm

re: #335 The War TARDIS

Ed Miliband

David is now President of the International Rescue Committee.

Ah thanks. Which one was the more progressive of the two? It was pretty interesting to read about two brothers contending for the leadership spot in a party.

337 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:11:26pm
338 Aqua Obama  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:13:20pm

Torchlight rallies, courtesy of Nescafe

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339 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:13:22pm

re: #337 Lidane

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Yeah elect a guy who’s never held a position of political power ever, that will work so well and before someone points out generals like Eisenhower, I will remind you that Ike had to deal with politicians in his job as Supreme Allied Commander and Ike wasn’t a butthead who panders to wingnut assholes who really do believe ACA is worse than slavery and Jim Crow.

340 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:13:26pm

re: #337 Lidane

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Who paid for Ben Carson’s medical school tuition? It sure as fuck wasn’t his mother who worked as a domestic.

Also: he went to Detroit public schools. Not even an elite magnet school like Cass Tech, he went to inner city Southwestern.

Wingnuts, tell me again how hard Detroit sucks.

341 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:13:31pm

Youtube Video

342 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:13:59pm

re: #308 Kragar

I have a soft spot in my heart for metal, of all kinds, even if it’s not all my thing. (Iron Maiden RULES!!!) It’s helped my son deal with a lot of issues and we used it as part of sensory integration when he was much younger and couldn’t deal with loud noises. Now he keeps bugging us for tickets to Mayhem Festival every year, lol. The local metal community has accepted him, and while he’s not close with anyone in the scene, they don’t bully him and I can drop him off at a couple of local venues and know he’ll be ok.

343 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:14:16pm

For Monty Python fans:

344 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:15:40pm

re: #342 A Mom Anon

I have a soft spot in my heart for metal, of all kinds, even if it’s not all my thing. (Iron Maiden RULES!!!) It’s helped my son deal with a lot of issues and we used it as part of sensory integration when he was much younger and couldn’t deal with loud noises. Now he keeps bugging us for tickets to Mayhem Festival every year, lol. The local metal community has accepted him, and while he’s not close with anyone in the scene, they don’t bully him and I can drop him off at a couple of local venues and know he’ll be ok.

Good on the metalheads for treating your son right. It’s not my cup of tea either but hey music’s music. One of my late friends was a huge metal fan. Definitely blasted some AC/DC after hearing of his passing.

345 Aqua Obama  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:15:49pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Best twitter feed ever

346 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:15:52pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lol.

347 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:16:08pm

re: #306 Lidane

This is great:

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That is the best thing ever.

348 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:16:49pm

re: #342 A Mom Anon

349 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:17:09pm

re: #328 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There’s still some good metal out there. Admittedly I stopped listening to most of the big names when they all went way too commercial.

Now I mostly listen to industrial and EDM/EBM. Going to be going to a concert in April to see Combichrist, Suicide Commando, Aesthetic Perfection and one other (can’t remember the last band).

Saw Rammstein back in 2011 and it was an awesome show.

I haven’t paid much attention to new music the past decade or so, just not enough stuff interest me but there seems to be a resurgence in “real” music again with lots of interesting stuff to discover.

350 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:18:09pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Right now, we get along with Cameron and Hollande. Not so much with Merkel.

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Neither are real progressive. David supported the Iraq War (though he would later as Foreign Minister be friendlier to Pakistan than India, and ejecting an Israeli Diplomat over a forged passpor during the assassin incident a few years ago).

Here are Ed Miliband’s positions:

He also supported making the UK’s 50% top rate of tax permanent, as well as the institution of a new financial transaction tax, mutualising Northern Rock, putting limits on top salaries, scrapping tuition fees in favour of a graduate tax, implementing a living wage policy and the scrapping of the ID cards policy, and has spoken in favour of a “National Care Service”.

Though Labour remained officially neutral, he in a personal capacity supported the ultimately unsuccessful “Yes to AV” campaign in the Alternative Vote referendum on 5 May 2011, saying that it would benefit Britain’s “progressive majority”.[98][99] In September 2011, Miliband stated that a future Labour Government would immediately cut the cap on tuition fees for university students from £9,000 per year to £6,000, though he also stated that he remained committed to a graduate tax in the long-run.[100] Together with Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls, Miliband has also promoted a “five-point plan for jobs and growth” aimed at helping the UK economy, involving extending the bonus tax on banks pioneered by Alistair Darling, bringing forward planned long-term investment to help reduce unemployment, cutting the rate of VAT from 20% back to 17.5%, cutting VAT on home improvements to 5% for a temporary one year period, and instigating a one-year national insurance break to encourage employers to hire more staff.[101] Miliband has also endorsed the Blue Labour trend in the Labour Party, founded by Maurice Glasman. Blue Labour talks about family and friendships at the heart of society, rather than just material wealth; it also offers a very strong critique of the free-market as well as the big state. This was seen to have influenced his 2011 conference speech, signalling “predatory and productive capitalism”.

351 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:18:15pm

splcenter.org
Seems Jerry Boykin is also an anti-semitic asshole as well as being an anti-Muslim asshole. Not really surprised.since Boykin and his co-religiousts really don’t care about Israel and Jews. They just cared about some pathetic doomsday prophecy.

352 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:18:32pm

re: #342 A Mom Anon

I have a soft spot in my heart for metal, of all kinds, even if it’s not all my thing. (Iron Maiden RULES!!!) It’s helped my son deal with a lot of issues and we used it as part of sensory integration when he was much younger and couldn’t deal with loud noises. Now he keeps bugging us for tickets to Mayhem Festival every year, lol. The local metal community has accepted him, and while he’s not close with anyone in the scene, they don’t bully him and I can drop him off at a couple of local venues and know he’ll be ok.

When I was growing up I listened to nothing but metal. I tried to fit in with the “cool kids” aka the preppies and jocks and was always treated like crap and bullied by them, so I started hanging out with the metal heads and so-called “losers” (who were also supposed bullies) and made a lot of great friends. Never had to do anything more than just hang out and could be myself without having to try and impress anyone.

353 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:18:52pm

re: #331 A Mom Anon

There’s a program called Blessings in a Backpack that sends home food to kids in need on Fridays because a lot of kids go hungry on the weekends. It truly sucks that something like that has to exist in the first fucking place.

I’m sorry your parents weren’t there for you, I hope you’re ok now. I just wish conservative buttheads like those at CPAC would understand that poverty isn’t limited to people who don’t care or aren’t trying, and that it’s just plain evil to punish everyone when in most homes it’s not that way. Not to even mention that the amount of money spent on these things is paltry compared to corporate tax loopholes, offshoring money by rich people, waste in defense contracts, and the salaries of lazy fucking congresspeople.

Reminds me of a story I read yesterday of the arrest of a woman in LA whose 2 and 3 yr olds were found wandering a busy street. She was 32, iirc, and had already had had 6 kids taken away. Someone said the 3 yr old had been seen in a liquor store close by getting bread so he and the 2 yr old would have something to eat. Cops said condition of the apt was horrible. Can’t understand why she was allowed to keep those poor kids, but there was little other info. Other than monitoring someone like this 24/7, there are just some people who, usually due to drugs or alcohol, just can’t cope with everyday life.

354 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:20:15pm

re: #341 Varek Raith

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I wonder about the bass player with tattoos. I seem to recall Japanese culture has a big taboo about showing tattoos in public. It’s a gangster/Yakuza thing. I wonder how he gets away with that.

355 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:20:22pm

re: #349 Killgore Trout

I haven’t paid much attention to new music the past decade or so, just not enough stuff interest me but there seems to be a resurgence in “real” music again with lots of interesting stuff to discover.

I’ll be going to see Iron Maiden in Brno June 8th; taking along a former student of mine who became a huge Iron Maiden fan after I took to her concert here a few years ago.

She was a dubstep fan. Thankfully, Iron Maiden opened her eyes. :)

356 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:20:39pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

And here I thought Holder didn’t have a sense of humor. But yeah Jindal should actually read about segregation before the dumb fuck compares POTUS and the administration to George Wallace.

He should also read more about Holder:

357 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:21:02pm

re: #306 Lidane

This is great:

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358 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:22:19pm

re: #349 Killgore Trout

I haven’t paid much attention to new music the past decade or so, just not enough stuff interest me but there seems to be a resurgence in “real” music again with lots of interesting stuff to discover.

Sirius XM has been a boon to metal. They have the classic stuff but also a few channels playing the newer stuff and there are some good Hard Rock and Metal acts still kicking ass. Admittedly I spend more time listening to Sirius XM’s Rock Bar (stuff ranging from 70’s rock up through Hard Rock and metal that you’d like to be listening to while shooting pool at a bar) than I do the newer metal channels like Octane but even that channel plays some of the newer stuff. I especially dig the resurgence of female metal bands.

359 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:22:38pm

Temperatures may be rising and the ice/sleet/snow melting, but it’s a mess in NC.

360 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:22:55pm

re: #356 Lidane

He should also read more about Holder:

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I wasn’t aware of that but wow makes Jindal look like an even bigger prick than he already is. I mean it’s bad enough already that he’s likening an African American president and AG to the face of Segregation now and segregation forever, and now said AG actually had family that was discriminated against by that very bigot. Jindal would have supported Wallace knowing how he is and his state is.

361 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:22:55pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

I can listen to a huge amount of different Music styles. But for me, Symphonic Metal is Home.

And Taylor Swift music.

If I could get a Symphonic Metal Band with Taylor Swift as the singer, I would be the happiest person ever.

362 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:24:03pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

I’ll be going to see Iron Maiden in Brno June 8th; taking along a former student of mine who became a huge Iron Maiden fan after I took to her concert here a few years ago.

She was a dubstep fan. Thankfully, Iron Maiden opened her eyes. :)

Nothing wrong with Dubstep. There’s some good stuff out there in that genre from covers to original stuff. Granted it’s not for everyone but I’ve discovered I like a lot of it.

363 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:24:07pm

re: #357 wrenchwench

Related:

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Congress’s own John Lewis was among the bloodied. I don’t use the term hero often to describe members of Congress but John Lewis is one of them. Those people in Selma had so much courage. The Tea Party can act like they’re persecuted all they want but the people who marched in Selma had real courage.

364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:24:49pm

I also love so-called Viking metal (ie Amon Amarth) and death metal (ie Cradle of Filth)

365 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:25:48pm

I think the only metal I really can get into is really stuff like AC/DC, Black Sabbath, and Led Zeppelin. Just not my cup of tea but hey what works for some. I’m more into punk, indie folk, and Americana.

366 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:26:11pm

Can’t forget some classic Pantera

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367 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:26:30pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

That’s old fashioned Rock. ;)

368 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:26:32pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

I’ll be going to see Iron Maiden in Brno June 8th; taking along a former student of mine who became a huge Iron Maiden fan after I took to her concert here a few years ago.

She was a dubstep fan. Thankfully, Iron Maiden opened her eyes. :)

I regret I never got to see AC/DC. I think they still do shows but you have to go to Australia to see them.

369 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:27:00pm

Can’t go wrong with cartoon metal. XD
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370 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:27:28pm

re: #367 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That’s old fashioned Rock. ;)

Yeah I figure I’d get called on that.

371 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:28:04pm

Would Thin Lizzy count as metal? I do like their version of Whiskey in the Jar.

372 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:28:06pm

re: #358 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Sirius XM has been a boon to metal. They have the classic stuff but also a few channels playing the newer stuff and there are some good Hard Rock and Metal acts still kicking ass. Admittedly I spend more time listening to Sirius XM’s Rock Bar (stuff ranging from 70’s rock up through Hard Rock and metal that you’d like to be listening to while shooting pool at a bar) than I do the newer metal channels like Octane but even that channel plays some of the newer stuff. I especially dig the resurgence of female metal bands.

Agreed. I’ve always hated country music with a passion but started listening to Outlaw Country on XM. Some really good stuff.

373 simoom  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:28:15pm

From “Snowden’s” EU Parliament written testimony:

What is your relationship with the Russian and Chinese authorities, and what are the terms on which you were allowed to stay originally in Hong Kong and now in Russia?

- I have no relationship with either government.

That’s his entire answer. Notice how he, rather blatantly, skipped over the second half of that question.

374 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:28:25pm

re: #368 Killgore Trout

I regret I never got to see AC/DC. I think they still do shows but you have to go to Australia to see them.

I’ve gotten to see Maiden twice, once with Dio. That was a hell of a night.

375 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:28:58pm

re: #372 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I’ve always hated country music with a passion but started listening to Outlaw Country on XM. Some really good stuff.

Yeah Outlaw Country is great. I once used to be in the camp “Oh country sucks, it’s all the same stuff” but I really started listening to my Dad’s old Townes Van Zandt CDs.

376 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:29:00pm

re: #366 Kragar

That song was great (as was a lot of Pantera’s stuff. I think my all time favorite Pantera song has to be Cemetery Gates though.

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377 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:29:12pm

re: #364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My son LOVES Amon Amarth . I have adults ask me all the time if my son liking death metal and some of the other more hardcore stuff freaks me out or worries me and I always respond “nope, I raised an awesome kid who loves his family, has the biggest heart you could ever hope to find and is one of the bravest people I know. Music won’t change any of that, even if it’s about eating babies”. LOL.

378 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:30:08pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

Oh I had the good fortune to see the tour Iron Maiden did when Bruce got back in the band after doing his side project the lineup was: Rob Halford, Queensryche, Iron Maiden.

379 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:30:35pm

re: #377 A Mom Anon

My son LOVES Amon Amarth . I have adults ask me all the time if my son liking death metal and some of the other more hardcore stuff freaks me out or worries me and I always respond “nope, I raised an awesome kid who loves his family, has the biggest heart you could ever hope to find and is one of the bravest people I know. Music won’t change any of that, even if it’s about eating babies”. LOL.

I mean I’d be worried about him if he started singing Bieber. Seriously, I used ot think the hate directed at that kid was totally overblown but RS has a new article about him, kid’s a total punkass dickweed.

380 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:31:26pm

re: #376 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That song was great (as was a lot of Pantera’s stuff. I think my all time favorite Pantera song has to be Cemetery Gates though.

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You can’t forget “Hollow”

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381 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:32:11pm

re: #378 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh I had the good fortune to see the tour Iron Maiden did when Bruce got back in the band after doing his side project the lineup was: Rob Halford, Queensryche, Iron Maiden.

Sweet.

382 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:32:31pm

re: #378 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh I had the good fortune to see the tour Iron Maiden did when Bruce got back in the band after doing his side project the lineup was: Rob Halford, Queensryche, Iron Maiden.

Want to say it was 2005 when I saw them last. Line up was Motorhead, Dio, and Maiden

383 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:33:17pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Bieber and the rest are a product of the disney-fication of music as a whole. It’s one of the reasons I despise most of what is on the radio now-a-days. It started with boy bands in the 90’s an continues now. It’s funny but also sad in a way. I mean, yeah, metal was kind of the same during the 80’s but at least there was some originality in the songs and sound. Plus many of the metal bands wrote their own songs and all of them knew how to play instruments.

384 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:34:31pm

re: #383 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Bieber and the rest are a product of the disney-fication of music as a whole. It’s one of the reasons I despise most of what is on the radio now-a-days. It started with boy bands in the 90’s an continues now. It’s funny but also sad in a way. I mean, yeah, metal was kind of the same during the 80’s but at least there was some originality in the songs and sound. Plus many of the metal bands wrote their own songs and all of them knew how to play instruments.

At least the Indy scene is good. Lot of good stuff coming outta Brooklyn these days. If I were an aspiring musician, I’d be there.

385 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:35:11pm

re: #380 Kragar

Yeah, another great song. To me it showed a range from Pantera, sure Phil could get all guttural and growl/yell but he could also sing, without the help of auto-tune.

386 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:35:47pm

I shocked no one had a comment.

Also, need to branch out of Nightwish. Need moar bands!

387 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:35:58pm

re: #362 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah, so do I, but I’ve never been “cool” even when I was listening to a lot of the earlier 60s stuff that took others a while to pick up on. I listened almost exclusively to Black Radio when I was in HS in the ’50s when rhythm and blues was really coming into its own and “crossing over”. This was in Miami, and my best friends were a Filipina and her adopted sister who was Cuban, and they had a transistor radio; my dad wouldn’t let me listen to “that music” at home. I just have never liked pop music and always look elsewhere.

388 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:36:18pm

re: #384 HappyWarrior

At least the Indy scene is good. Lot of good stuff coming outta Brooklyn these days. If I were an aspiring musician, I’d be there.

Yeah there’s a lot of good stuff in the so-called underground. I’m a big fan of a local L.A. band called Dommin, here’s one of their tunes and it’s really good

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389 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:36:25pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

Would Thin Lizzy count as metal? I do like their version of Whiskey in the Jar.

Metallica covered it, so I guess so

390 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:36:44pm

re: #385 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah, another great song. To me it showed a range from Pantera, sure Phil could get all guttural and growl/yell but he could also sing, without the help of auto-tune.

This song blew me away the first time I heard it:

Youtube Video

391 simoom  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:37:00pm

re: #373 simoom

Again from Snowden’s EU writter testimony:

Are you aware that your revelations have the potential to put at risk lives of innocents and hamper efforts in the global fight against terrorism?

- Actually, no specific evidence has ever been offered, by any government, that even a single life has been put at risk by the award-winning journalism this question attempts to implicate.

Did Greenwald help write Snowden’s answers, or has his arguments and mannerisms just rubbed off on him?

392 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:38:51pm

Stupid autoplay comedy central vids.

393 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:40:37pm

Outlandish claim which we already know is a fucking lie.

394 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:41:06pm

re: #378 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh I had the good fortune to see the tour Iron Maiden did when Bruce got back in the band after doing his side project the lineup was: Rob Halford, Queensryche, Iron Maiden.

Oh geez. Queensryche. I was super into those guys in the late 80’s and early 90’s but after one of their guitarists left the band I stopped following them. I’d hear things here and there and wonder what the fuck happened because they were practically a different band. Turns out it was a massive case of Lead Singer Disease — the vocalist got his wife installed as manager, brought in his own outside writers, etc. They finally fired that guy, hired the guy who’d been singing in Crimson Glory, and put out some new music last year. I liked it.

395 Kragar  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:41:15pm

re: #391 simoom

“no specific evidence has ever been offered” by Greenwald or Snowden of anything happening for that matter.

396 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:41:38pm

And I’ve become a fan of the German Duo “Santa Hates You” especially after hearing their song “Scum”

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397 GeneJockey  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:42:30pm

re: #373 simoom

From “Snowden’s” EU Parliament written testimony:

That’s his entire answer. Notice how he, rather blatantly, skipped over the second half of that question.

What is it that the Dudebros say when the NSA denies doing things GG loudly proclaims they do (while quietly admitting he can’t prove it)?

“He WOULD say that!”

398 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:42:52pm

re: #394 Lidane

Yeah I heard Jeff Tate went became a bit of an ass WRT Queensryche. Heard he was even suing to try and keep the name and prevent them from using it any more after he left/was kicked out.

399 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:44:20pm

Right now, I am seeing Therion, Epica, and Within Temptation. Already familiar with the last.

400 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:45:05pm

As for dubstep, perhaps it’s heresy but I love this cover of Comfortably Numb (and most anything) by Blackburner:

Youtube Video

401 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:45:07pm

re: #396 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And I’ve become a fan of the German Duo “Santa Hates You” especially after hearing their song “Scum”

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Well, that was disturbing…

402 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:45:48pm

re: #401 Justanotherhuman

Well, that was disturbing…

LOL

403 GeneJockey  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:46:05pm

OT, but today is one of those days when I wish I weren’t a manager. So much easier when someone else makes the decisions and conveys them to the appropriate people.

Not as bad as the day I had to lay two people off, though, so there’s that.

404 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:47:34pm

re: #398 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah I heard Jeff Tate went became a bit of an ass WRT Queensryche. Heard he was even suing to try and keep the name and prevent them from using it any more after he left/was kicked out.

Yeah. The whole thing was insane. I hadn’t kept up with those guys in years and suddenly my friends are asking if I’d heard that Tate had been fired and that he’d assaulted the band and all kinds of crazy shit. Their new singer is pretty good. He can actually hit all the notes from those early albums, and he seems like a good guy.

405 simoom  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:48:01pm

re: #391 simoom

Did the Russian secret service approach you?

- Of course. Even the secret service of Andorra would have approached me, if they had had the chance: that’s their job.

But I didn’t take any documents with me from Hong Kong, and while I’m sure they were disappointed, it doesn’t take long for an intelligence service to realize when they’re out of luck. I was also accompanied at all times by an utterly fearless journalist with one of the biggest megaphones in the world, which is the equivalent of Kryptonite for spies. As a consequence, we spent the next 40 days trapped in an airport instead of sleeping on piles of money while waiting for the next parade. But we walked out with heads held high.

I would also add, for the record, that the United States government has repeatedly acknowledged that there is no evidence at all of any relationship between myself and the Russian intelligence service.

Another odd response. So he says he has been in contact with Russian intelligence. He claims he didn’t have any documents with him, and implies he’d have been richly rewarded if he had (“sleeping on piles of money while waiting for the next parade”). He also implies that somehow Wikileaks’ Sarah Harrison protected him from being used by foreign intelligence services, which while ridiculous on its face, makes even less sense given she’s long since left his company. He doesn’t give any detail about what he discussed with or told Russian intelligence, and doesn’t outright deny an ongoing relationship with them, but instead just writes that the US gov’t has no evidence of it.

406 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:49:04pm

re: #404 Lidane

Yeah. The whole thing was insane. I hadn’t kept up with those guys in years and suddenly my friends are asking if I’d heard that Tate had been fired and that he’d assaulted the band and all kinds of crazy shit. Their new singer is pretty good. He can actually hit all the notes from those early albums, and he seems like a good guy.

Tate was an excellent singer (helps he was a trained opera singer) but I had heard he always had a bit of an ego. Another band I wish I could have seen before they retired was The Scorpions.

407 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:49:40pm

re: #402 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

LOL

Yeah, the 4 yr old didn’t want me to turn it off. : ) “I like it!”

408 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:50:23pm

re: #407 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, the 4 yr old didn’t want me to turn it off. : ) “I like it!”

It has a good beat, to me that’s important. Sounded pretty original and what can I say? The chick is hot.

409 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:50:49pm

Youtube Video

410 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:50:54pm

re: #405 simoom

Another odd response. So he says he has been in contact with Russian intelligence. He claims he didn’t have any documents with him, and implies he’d have been richly rewarded if he had (“sleeping on piles of money while waiting for the next parade”). He also implies that somehow Wikileaks’ Sarah Harrison protected him from being used by foreign intelligence services, which while ridiculous on its face, makes even less sense given she’s long since left his company. He doesn’t give any detail about what he discussed with or told Russian intelligence, and doesn’t outright deny an ongoing relationship with them, but instead just writes that the US gov’t has no evidence of it.

What an odd sense of privilege this douchebag has.

411 The War TARDIS  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:51:02pm

re: #405 simoom

Andorran Secret Service? I seriously doubt the micro-state that has no foreign policy, and whose heads of state are the President of France, and Bishop of Urgell, would have a secret service.

What an epic amount of BS.

412 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:52:32pm

really love this old WASP tune too

Youtube Video

413 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:54:09pm

Here’s another band I have been digging lately, Five Finger Death Punch and their cover of “House of the rising sun”

Youtube Video

414 Lidane  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:55:40pm

re: #406 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Another band I wish I could have seen before they retired was The Scorpions.

For me, the one band I really regret never seeing was Dio.

415 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:55:56pm

ignore that last one, was some dude drumming along with it, here’s the undiluted version

Youtube Video

416 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:56:04pm

From time to time an opportunity shows up wholly unexpected. Looks like I might be able to fly my DSLR 7D for hire. A judge threw out the FAA ruling against commercial use. Paged.

Oh boy my gear budget just hit redline.

417 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 2:56:15pm

Youtube Video
Quality stinks, but still funny.

418 Swift2991  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:00:47pm

Putin and CPAC actually come from the same psychological area. Don’t go there. It’s kind of creepy. No gays, anywhere, and street thugs beating up journalists in the night.

419 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:01:55pm

re: #417 Varek Raith

I do love how they expect us to find the first genetic mutation that eventually led to one ancestor after another.

420 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:02:11pm
421 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:03:23pm

Wingnuts outraged that I mentioned Laura Bush’s vacations.
HURR HURR!!!!

422 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:03:35pm

re: #412 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

really love this old WASP tune too

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Never a big W.A.S.P. fan, but I did love this one, a cover.

Youtube Video

423 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:03:45pm

I just can’t even.

424 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:04:01pm

McConnell Challenger Attacks Kentucky AG For ‘Abdicating’ His Job

Matt Bevin is a colossal douche.

425 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:04:55pm

OK lizards, chicken scampi is done and it’s feeding time at the zoo. Enjoy your Friday night.

427 GeneJockey  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:05:47pm

re: #424 The Ghost of a Flea

McConnell Challenger Attacks Kentucky AG For ‘Abdicating’ His Job

Matt Bevin is a colossal douche.

In other news, water has been discovered to be wet.
//

428 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:06:34pm

re: #424 The Ghost of a Flea

McConnell Challenger Attacks Kentucky AG For ‘Abdicating’ His Job

Matt Bevin is a colossal douche.

Of course he is, he’s a Tea Partier.

429 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:07:14pm

re: #426 Varek Raith

Fox Panel Laughs At Senate Democrats For All-Nighter On Climate Change

As opposed to the GOP which votes to repeal ACA how many times we’re up to these days, so laugh all you want Fox but you’re the real joke.

430 GeneJockey  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:08:00pm

re: #426 Varek Raith

Fox Panel Laughs At Senate Democrats For All-Nighter On Climate Change

“Who cares if Australia and Brazil have been experiencing unprecedented hot summers? It’s cold HERE, TODAY, so obviously Global Warming is a plot to destroy Capitalism!!!”

431 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:08:41pm

re: #423 Pie-onist Overlord

I just can’t even.

Here’s some ammunition. This is from July 2013: “In fact, if you compare Laura Bush to the Presidents, she is currently the third most internationally traveled of that group, behind Bill Clinton and her husband [GWB] - though President Obama will likely push her back to fourth in a few years.”

ntu.org

432 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:08:43pm

re: #430 GeneJockey

“Who cares if Australia and Brazil have been experiencing unprecedented hot summers? It’s cold HERE, TODAY, so obviously Global Warming is a plot to destroy Capitalism!!!”

Seriously, the idiots at Fox think that just because every day this winter isn’t 100 degrees Fahrenheit, climate change is a hoax. Pathetic fuckers.

433 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:10:11pm

Climatology vs Scientifically Illiterate Hacks.

434 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:10:54pm

re: #431 Justanotherhuman

Here’s some ammunition. This is from July 2013: “In fact, if you compare Laura Bush to the Presidents, she is currently the third most internationally traveled of that group, behind Bill Clinton and her husband [GWB] - though President Obama will likely push her back to fourth in a few years.”

ntu.org

I really don’t understand the whole “rewriting history” crap accusation. I liked Mrs. Bush’s reading intiative just as I think Mrs. Obama’s getting kids to eat healthy and exercise one is admirable. Why Wingnuts scoff at that campaign and then complain like losers when people go on public assistance just amuses me. Oh you don’t want people in authority and influecne to encourage our young ones to eat well and exercise but you’ll throw a fit when our record highs in obesity come to having people having to get more assistance, conservatives are so tone deaf.

435 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:10:55pm

re: #422 Dr Lizardo

I was never a huge fan but like Blind in texas.

I was also a big Twisted Sister fan when I was 5.

436 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:11:12pm

re: #424 The Ghost of a Flea

Which is why I will hold my nose and vote for Mitch in the primary, and happily vote for Alison in the general.

437 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:11:16pm

re: #433 Varek Raith

Climatology vs Scientifically Illiterate Hacks.

SCIENTISTS ARE LYING TO MAKE MONEY BUT NOT US CORPORATE HACKS.

438 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:11:57pm

re: #420 Justanotherhuman

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They can probably take over the country without much difficulty but if they piss off the press there’ll be hell to pay.

439 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:15:28pm

re: #437 HappyWarrior

SCIENTISTS ARE LYING TO MAKE MONEY BUT NOT US CORPORATE HACKS.

As a chiropractor, my understanding of the mystical energies controlled by spinal alignment grant me great insight into the effect of temperature on the upper atmosphere.

440 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:16:57pm

re: #434 HappyWarrior

I really don’t understand the whole “rewriting history” crap accusation. I liked Mrs. Bush’s reading intiative just as I think Mrs. Obama’s getting kids to eat healthy and exercise one is admirable. Why Wingnuts scoff at that campaign and then complain like losers when people go on public assistance just amuses me. Oh you don’t want people in authority and influecne to encourage our young ones to eat well and exercise but you’ll throw a fit when our record highs in obesity come to having people having to get more assistance, conservatives are so tone deaf.

Yes, but Mrs. Bush carried the White card. This is all about race. The Obamas will never do anything right according to that crowd. Even though Michelle is fit (and has arms to die for), she is mocked because of the stinking racism of that bunch of loonies.

441 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:18:00pm

re: #440 Justanotherhuman

Yes, but Mrs. Bush carried the White card. This is all about race. The Obamas will never do anything right according to that crowd. Even though Michelle is fit (and has arms to die for), she is mocked because of the stinking racism of that bunch of loonies.

Of course. Really if any other white first lady had pursued the exercise and healthy eating campaign, the wingnuts really wouldn’t think anything of it but somehow wanting our kids to eat healthy and exercise well makes Michelle “uppity.”

442 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:19:37pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Of course. Really if any other white first lady had pursued the exercise and healthy eating campaign, the wingnuts really wouldn’t think anything of it but somehow wanting our kids to eat healthy and exercise well makes Michelle “uppity.”

Bingo. They still think women who look like Michelle should be doing domestic work. They can fuck off.

443 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:19:56pm

re: #442 Justanotherhuman

Bingo. They still think women who look like Michelle should be doing domestic work. They can fuck off.

Fucking A.

444 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:21:23pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Of course. Really if any other white first lady had pursued the exercise and healthy eating campaign, the wingnuts really wouldn’t think anything of it but somehow wanting our kids to eat healthy and exercise well makes Michelle “uppity.”

I dunno.

There’s some kind of contrarian thing going on where any authority figure suggesting that you should be aware of what’s in what you eat is a totalitarian hippy.

I mean, there’s a shit ton of lobbyist money from food companies that don’t like having to disclose stuff like added fat and sugar.

Edit:

Though in the case of the FLOTUS, it’s hard to sort out the racism from the other equal ridiculous motives.

Like there is something deeply fucked up and racial about the way that food at the Obama White House has been policed. All that stuff about “they’re wallowing in luxury”…

445 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:22:39pm

More bad news for wingnuts.

446 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:23:13pm

re: #444 The Ghost of a Flea

I dunno.

There’s some kind of contrarian thing going on where any authority figure suggesting that you should be aware of what’s in what you eat is a totalitarian hippy.

I mean, there’s a shit ton of lobbyist money from food companies that don’t like having to disclose stuff like added fat and sugar.

True. Anyhow, as someone who’s gotten healthy through more exercise and healthy eating, I commend the first lady for wanting kids to work on it while they’re young. And honestly healthy food is better than fast food. Wish I had realized that when I was younger but hey never too late.

447 GeneJockey  Fri, Mar 7, 2014 3:43:49pm

re: #437 HappyWarrior

SCIENTISTS ARE LYING TO MAKE MONEY BUT NOT US CORPORATE HACKS.

Scientists lie to destroy Capitalism and to live like kings off that sweet, sweet grant money!

But don’t your ‘skeptics’ mostly get funding from fossil fuel companies?

Typical libtard! Attack the messenger!!


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