1 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:04:11am

Newt Gingrich said the evil left wing is trying to stop the production of smartphones.

WTF.

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:05:01am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Newt Gingrich said the evil left wing is trying to stop the production of smartphones.

WTF.

Apparently, Newt’s smartphone committed suicide in a final fit of despair.

3 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:06:09am

Not sure whether to be happy or sad that I missed the last couple days of CPAC due to being under a media blackout while serving as a juror. A few days away from concentrated derp seemed rather nice.

4 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:06:37am

Next up: young Earth creationist Dr. Ben Carson.

5 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:08:28am
6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:08:33am

PC Police! PC Police!
Ben is warning us!

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:08:55am

That mean liberal media is bullying us!

8 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:09:16am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Newt Gingrich said the evil left wing is trying to stop the production of smartphones.

WTF.

Is there a contest this year to have the most outlandish allegation to throw at the left because that one takes the prize so far.

9 Lidane  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:09:18am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Newt Gingrich said the evil left wing is trying to stop the production of smartphones.

WTF.

It’s probably a reference to the whole controversy over conflict minerals in the Congo that are used in some smartphones.

10 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:10:18am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently, Newt’s smartphone committed suicide in a final fit of despair.

Maybe he was taking nude selfies and his smartphone just said “fuck this!” and self-deleted.

11 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:10:55am

re: #10 Eventual Carrion

Maybe he was taking nude selfies and his smartphone just said “fuck this!” and self-deleted.

Well I am glad I’m drinking tonight because that’s an image I’d rather not think about.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:11:12am

PC Police, again!
Glad that’s not on my CPAC drinking game list…

13 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:11:49am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

PC Police, again!
Glad that’s not on my CPAC drinking game list…

They whine about political correctness but if you make a joke about their religion or ideology, you’re a mean liberal bullying them.

14 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:12:00am

“Extra rights”

15 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:12:12am

Ben Carson is pretty much the right wing version of the useful idiots that the Soviets had.

16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:12:46am

“Of course Obamacare isn’t the same as slavery…but…”

17 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:12:53am
18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:13:11am

Nazi Germany!!!11!!!!

19 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:13:21am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Ben Carson is also speaking at CPAC. Irony meet nail.

20 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:13:41am

Hooray for the lies we love!!!

21 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:14:41am

Wouldn’t be CPAC without the whiny conservative losers equating their annoyance that Barack Obama is president to the suffering of millions of Jews, Slavs, homosexuals, Slavs, leftists, etc under the Third Reich. Fuckwits.

22 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:14:42am
23 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:15:32am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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This guy makes Herman Cain look like an astute political commentator since at least Cain’s insanity was mostly an economic plan that resembled a pizza deal.

24 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:16:17am

Drinking game in late but if Carson makes a reference to the Democratic Party as a plantation and tells other African Americans to get off it, do a shot.

25 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:16:28am

Gott mit uns shoutout.

26 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:17:12am

What are they up to? The Bard knew:

Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

27 RealityBasedSteve  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:18:46am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Ah, the classic “I Never really said the thing that I apologized for saying” and probably it’s close cousin “I’ll sue anybody that posts me saying it or apologizing for saying it on the web.” is lurking in the wings.

RBS

28 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:19:59am

re: #27 RealityBasedSteve

Ah, the classic “I Never really said the thing that I apologized for saying” and probably it’s close cousin “I’ll sue anybody that posts me saying it or apologizing for saying it on the web.” is lurking in the wings.

RBS

I’m sorry I offended you libtard, I’m just not a politically correct person.//

29 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:20:03am

Bilking the rubes:

While American Legacy states that its purpose is to “support federal candidates for Congress, Senate and the Presidency who share those [conservative] values,” the organization’s financial records indicate it devotes a minuscule portion of its expenditures to campaign contributions.

American Legacy raised $193,715 and spent $237,814 from November 6 to December 31, according to its year-end Federal Election Commission report filed today. The group donated just $5,000 to a single candidate (Kansas Republican Sen. Pat Roberts) in its most recent filing. The vast majority of American Legacy’s expenses went to consulting and fundraising costs. $218,496.54 went to InfoCision, a controversial telemarketing firm that has a long and profitable history with Gingrich.

Ben Carson Joins Forces With Newt Gingrich’s Dubious PAC

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:20:14am

His time has expired and the crowd haz a huge sad…

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:20:35am

We’re all gonna be killed!!!
Ben said so!!!

32 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:21:16am
33 andres  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:21:22am

re: #10 Eventual Carrion

Maybe he was taking nude selfies and his smartphone just said “fuck this!” and self-deleted.

I’d be worried if Gingrich was taking his selfies Arango’s style…

(Brain bleach on aisle 5. You’re welcome.)

34 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:21:35am
35 dog philosopher  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:21:50am

newt has been studying how to be a fucking moron for many years now, and this exemplary effort is showing definite results

36 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:22:02am

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re all gonna be killed!!!
Ben said so!!!

And these people think the left is hysterical for noticing climate change patterns but it’s perfectly normal to be paranoid about a term limited president who could if he were a real dictator shut down this circus*
*Apologies to circuses

37 andres  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:22:44am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

This guy makes Herman Cain look like an astute political commentator since at least Cain’s insanity was mostly an economic plan that resembled a pizza deal.

And taking slogans from kids’ cartoons. :P

38 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:23:23am

re: #35 dog philosopher

newt has been studying how to be a fucking moron for many years now, and this exemplary effort is showing definite results

What’s sad to me is guys like Gingrich, Carson, and many of hte others aren’t dumb in the true sense of the word. They’re all educated guys but they’re pandering to ignorance. They know as well as you and I do that Barack Obama isn’t out to get them and isn’t going to put them in camps but they still do this lie because they know the morons that make up CPAC’s audience eat it up every time.

39 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:23:44am

re: #37 andres

And taking slogans from kids’ cartoons. :P

He wanted to be the very best, the best there ever was.

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:24:23am

Nazis again!
And with a straight face he talks about “picking and choosing the laws that you like”
///

41 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:24:36am

FREEEEDDOOOM!!

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:25:06am

LOL, I can’t believe peeps on the twitterz are falling for this crap:

43 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:26:56am
44 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:27:00am

DeMint! We’re saved!!!111!!!

45 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:27:19am

re: #34 Charles Johnson

SXSW invited Gaga and lost credibility as an indie music fest anyway.

The cycle of life: Rebellion, independence, co-option.

46 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:28:18am

OT:

A Malaysian Air 777-200, Kuala Lampur—->Beijing, was lost over the South China Sea last night. Last contact was level at 35,000’, airspeed 485 knots, then…

Gone.

Have a good thought for the families of the passengers and crew.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:28:20am

Story about Bill, the 90 year old Patriot….
and his Christmas card…

48 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:28:24am

re: #43 jaunte

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Gee I wonder why they lost the past two presidential elections with that. And these people actually like to compare themselves to Reagan. Can’t stand Reagan but at least Reagan knew how to be positive rather than a doom and gloom asshole like these bags of dicks are.

49 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:29:20am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Story about Bill, the 90 year old Patriot….
and his Christmas card…

Is the usual let’s flip out because of Happy Holidays? Despite what they believe about us, we don’t care about being wished a Merry Christmas, it’s they who have a problem saying anything other than Merry Christmas.

50 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:29:21am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Truthy.

51 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:30:51am

Religious liberty is in danger!!

52 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:31:02am

Have to say as a young voter, these guys are doing their best to make sure Generation Y sees conservatism about as positively as we do Creed and Nickelback. Though at least they try.

53 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:31:44am

LOL!

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:31:59am

DeMint made a Catholic joke because “Bill” has 93 kids, grandkids, etc. Then Bill’s Christmas gift was the word “grateful” and all those descendants used that word all year to answer the question “how are you?”
“Grateful to live in the freest country in the world!”
wait…I thought we had a dictator and FEMA camps and total persecution?

Oh…political bullies…drink!

55 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:32:29am

re: #53 NJDhockeyfan

LOL!

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I didn’t know the DPRK had a spot at CPAC this year.

56 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:33:24am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

DeMint made a Catholic joke because “Bill” has 93 kids, grandkids, etc. Then Bill’s Christmas gift was the word “grateful” and all those descents used that word all year to answer the question “how are you?”
“Grateful to live in the freest country int he world!”
wait…I thought we had a dictator and FEMA camps and total persecution?

Oh…political bullies…drink!

Yeah this is the greatest country in the world yet somehow God will stop blessing us because two people of the same sex can marry in some states. They have a schizoid relationship with our country.

57 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:33:54am

decisions made from the top down are bad.
decisions made from bottom up are good.
yep…that works…

Views forced down our throats!!!11!!

58 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:34:01am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s hard to sustain that rhetorical knife-edge tension between a strong, vibrant, patriotic faithful society and the imminent threat of doom.

59 Lidane  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:34:06am

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Just wait until Snowden gets to speak.

From what I hear, the lines to see the video interview with Assange were massive. The Snowden ones are probably the same.

60 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:34:55am

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

decisions made from the top down are bad.
decisions made from bottom up are good.
yep…that works…

Views forced down our throats!!!11!!

That explains why Jim and his fellow conservatives accepted Colorado’s decision to legalize pot so well and the decisions other states to legalize SSM. Oh wait, no they didn’t. DeMint you’re a hypocrite and drunk, get off the stage.

61 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:35:06am

DeMint’s favorite phrase: “little platoons”…

62 Lidane  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:35:15am
63 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:35:46am

DeMint knew he couldn’t be an effective senator becaues he has no real solutions just empty rhetoric so he decided to go the king of empty rhetoric, the Heritage Foundation. Wingnut welfare at its best.

64 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:36:19am

DeMint is blowing that homophobia whistle so hard the walls should be shaking.

65 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:36:21am
66 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:37:32am

re: #64 jaunte

DeMint is blowing that homophobia whistle so hard the walls should be shaking.

I first heard about him when he proposed that unwed women and gays shouldn’t be allowed to teach. Mullah DeMint would fit in great with the ayatollahs that run Iran except his beard would suck.

67 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:38:12am
68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:38:28am

DeMint laments that “We The People” don’t mean Christians only because otherwise everything would be just fine.

69 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:39:07am

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

DeMint laments that “We The People” don’t mean Christians only because otherwise everything would be just fine.

And this is why WBL compares these guys to the Falange in Civil War era Spain.

70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:39:35am

lolololol!! He points to Louisiana as a good example of education reform that works!

71 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:40:02am

Little platoons of confederates.

72 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:41:38am

There’s that “authoritarian vs. weak leader” conundrum again.

73 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:41:55am

I’ve really come to realize on a much deeper level:

Ideology is a product, and the hawkers of that product have gotten their heads around how to repackage and deliver it to the consumers (for the most part, see: video panorama of stage with only 3 of 4 speakers in camera).

The crappy thing is ideology is considered important to operate on a political level. I actually think ideology mucks things up, especially nowadays.

74 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:42:09am

CPAC: Confederates, Paranoids, And Crazies.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:42:15am

Carly Fiorina is mad, sick and tired…

76 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:42:18am

Rather, “authoritarian and weak leader.”

77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:42:59am

The drought in California is because of liberals…

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:44:20am

fish are more important than families and food.
Sure, Carly, fish don’t need water…those scaly moochers…

79 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:45:01am

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

fish are more important than families and food.
Sure, Carly, fish don’t need water…those scaly moochers…

I don’t think she understands how ecosystems work. Another person who was doing pitfarts in the lecture.

80 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:45:08am

re: #72 jaunte

There’s that “authoritarian vs. weak leader” conundrum again.

These deep compelling messages just boggle the mind. DeMint was going off about ‘platoons’ yesterday on AM radio.

PLATOONS, yeah! That’s great Jim.

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:45:24am

XL pipeline!
And she’s visited the coal fields…she knows coal!!!

barf…

82 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:45:36am

Wow, she’s worse than those HP folks imagined.

83 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:45:52am

Isn’t Fiorina the same genius who proclaimed Sarah Palin with her then two years as governor more experienced than Joe Biden who had thirty six years in the Senate? Yeah this is a real intellectual heavyweight you got here CPAC.

84 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:45:59am
85 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:46:45am

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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Of course. Obama’s weather control machine, duncha know?

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:47:01am

lolololol!
Carly is blaming income inequality on big banks, big businesses (and their big bonuses) and their influence in DC.

I need mohr scotch…

87 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:47:05am

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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Hey we’re blamed for why their marriages fail, blaming us for California’s rain patterns isn’t that much of a stretch even fi I’ve only been in California one week.

88 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:47:31am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

lolololol!
Carly is blaming income inequality on big banks, big businesses (and their big bonuses) and their influence in DC.

I need mohr scotch…

Oh you mean the people who funded your campaign Carly and the campaign of every other dolt here?

89 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:48:06am

A proud, pro-life multi-millionaire woman.

90 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:48:10am

Carly Fiorina is even dumber than I remembered.

91 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:48:32am

bwahahahaaa…Carly is pro-life because “like other young women” (stops to wipe my eyes…)

sorry, can’t stop laughing…

92 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:48:36am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Carly Fiorina is even dumber than I remembered.

Yeah I thought she was just a hack who had the weird sheep ad. Turns out she’s a dumb hack who had the weird sheep ad.

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:48:54am

We don’t expect birth control to be free!

94 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:49:09am

re: #89 jaunte

A proud, pro-life multi-millionaire woman.

It’s very easy to be “pro life” when you’re a millionaire and can get the best of care for your child, Carly but you knew that.

95 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:49:45am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t expect birth control to be free!

Good grief, a dogwhistle to the crowd that is opposed to Griswold and Eisenstadt?

96 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:50:09am

“Our empathy (a concept I have read about)…”

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:50:18am

“Women care more than just about reproductive rights”…tell that to the men there, Carly, because they are all about reproductive rights and nothing else when it comes to women.

98 socrets  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:50:56am

Why won’t this man’s political career just die?!

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:51:10am

They deserve a job (but screw you if you insist on a living wage…)

Oh, and she’s now an expert on teh poorz…

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:51:51am

gawd…Carly is full-blown DARVO…

101 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:52:21am

re: #96 jaunte

“Our empathy (a concept I have read about)…”

They do have empathy for billionaires and bigoted preachers and rapists. The rest of us not so much. Not saying billionaires are like the latter two btw but that the empathy the CPAC crowd has is for those who don’t need it.

102 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:52:38am
103 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:53:35am

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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I think that panel session was when all the attendees hit the open bar.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:53:39am

When Carly said “we don’t expect birth control to be free”, I wanted to throw something and say “we don’t either….that’s why we pay insurance premiums!”

105 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:53:49am
106 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:53:57am

Audition for 2016 VP slot. Fail.

107 AntonSirius  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:54:09am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Ben Carson apologized publicly for his comment comparing gay marriage to bestiality. Now he’s completely denying he ever said it.

This is the thing about being a dyed-in-the-wool wingnut I will never understand. I get being conditioned to despise liberals, I get being so afraid of change that you believe nonsense.

But why would you ever put up with someone lying to you to your face about something so easy to check? It’s baffling,

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:54:20am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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No third term for Obama…ratz…

109 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:55:00am

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Part of CPAC’s “Positively Potemkin” initiative.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:55:22am

oooh…CPAC version of Firing Line.
William F Buckley will be so pleased…

111 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:55:45am

Does Guns n Roses approve of CPAC using their music?

112 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:55:50am

CPAC: we’re Pro LIfe as long as it’s inside. After it gets out, whatevs.

113 Skip Intro  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:56:02am

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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This is what a former GOP candidate for the US Senate from California looks like. She’s as crazy as the rest of them.

I swear, I will never, under any circumstances, ever vote for any Republican for any office, ever.

114 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:56:18am
115 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:56:44am

HP 1990’s: Invent
CPAC, every year: Revert

116 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:56:51am

re: #113 Skip Intro

This is what a former GOP candidate for the US Senate from California looks like. She’s as crazy as the rest of them.

I swear, I will never, under any circumstances, ever vote for any Republican for any office, ever.

I feel ya. I’ve voted Republican a couple times. Never again until that party joins the 1960’s.

117 freetoken  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:57:05am

I notice that there was no disclosure was that Kaus and Coulter are/were bf/gf.

What a work.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:57:40am

Ann Coulter demonstrating her complete lack of knowledge of the Constitution and separation of powers.

119 freetoken  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:58:14am

We are watching kabuki.

120 Skip Intro  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:58:39am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I feel ya. I’ve voted Republican a couple times. Never again until that party joins the 1960’s.

I voted Republican all the way through Bush II. After, never again.

Just how stupid do you have to be to stick with a party that wants to destroy every single thing that makes life tolerable for the average person?

121 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:58:48am

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ann Coulter demonstrating her complete lack of knowledge of the Constitution and separation of powers.

And there’s another reason why this should be a trainwreck to anyone who considers themselves an intelligent conservative, Ann “I made my bones by being a McCarthy apologist” Coulter is part of this circle jerk.

122 freetoken  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:59:40am

This is so tiring.

The moderator is one of the big whigs at townhall, which specializes in hate theatre.

Ann Coulter makes money looking for new ways to hate.

Kaus just is there to make sure he gets some tonight.

123 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:59:50am

American people
American people
American people
American people
American people

Okay, good for another twenty minutes.

124 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:00:47am

This is supposed to be a debate? Mickey Kaus is the worst token liberal I’ve ever seen.

125 Amory Blaine  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:00:55am

Reagan said…blah blah blah

126 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:01:45am

the national debt is comparable to the Russia-Ukraine problem…

::head:: ::desk::

127 freetoken  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:01:47am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

This is supposed to be a debate? Mickey Kaus is the worst token liberal I’ve ever seen.

He’s there to get some tonight.

128 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:01:51am

re: #125 Amory Blaine

Reagan said…blah blah blah

Replace Reagan with Lenin and it’s not all different from how the Soviets were. Yeah I went there, Reagan is more a God than breathing individual to them. One without faults and one that should never be criticized.

129 AntonSirius  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:02:11am

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Apparently liberals caused 3 straight years of below-normal rainfall.

Of course. If they’d just stop believing in climate change, the weather would return to normal.

130 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:02:14am

re: #127 freetoken

He’s there to get some tonight.

He’s up all night to get lucky.

131 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:02:40am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

the national debt is comparable to the Russia-Ukraine problem…

::head:: ::desk::

Being in debt sucks but it’s nowhere close to having your sovereignty threatened, roll that dice and play again Ann!

132 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:03:03am

re: #129 AntonSirius

Of course. If they’d just stop believing in climate change, the weather would return to normal.

No, it’s all that Teh Ghey stuff there. Gayness scares rain clouds.

133 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:03:45am
134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:03:52am

The only thing that will save this segment is if Mickey Kaus say “Ann…you ignorant slut.”

135 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:04:39am

re: #133 jaunte

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Well as someone with a “brown” sister in law and a “brown” niece on the way, let me just say this loudly Fuck you, Ann Coulter.

136 sagehen  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:05:23am

re: #120 Skip Intro

I voted Republican all the way through Bush II. After, never again.

Just how stupid do you have to be to stick with a party that wants to destroy every single thing that makes life tolerable for the average person?

The last time I voted Republican for President was Bush the Elder. I stand by that vote. The last time I voted Republican for anything was Bloomberg the Rino.

137 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:06:27am

re: #136 sagehen

The last time I voted Republican for President was Bush the Elder. I stand by that vote. The last time I voted Republican for anything was Bloomberg the Rino.

Bush I would poll worse than Jon Huntsman did if he ran today. Clean Air Act? The hell you want! And Americans with Disabilities Act, I’ll be damned if I am going to help some commie moocher in a wheelchair!

138 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:06:48am
139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:07:16am

Ann says there is no more important issue to the American people than immigration.

I thought it was Obamacare. The House voted on that 50 times…

140 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:07:16am

re: #138 jaunte

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Palin, Gingrich, ?

141 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:07:43am

Hey, I win!

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:08:16am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Bush I would poll worse than Jon Huntsman did if he ran today. Clean Air Act? The hell you want! And Americans with Disabilities Act, I’ll be damned if I am going to help some commie moocher in a wheelchair!

Commie (veteran) moochers in wheelchairs like Bush I and Bob Dole…

143 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:09:45am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Commie (veteran) moochers in wheelchairs like Bush I and Bob Dole…

Lazy bastards. Their military service was feminized by the female nurses that treated them.

144 RadicalModerate  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:11:50am

I have to say that observing FoxNews having to simultaneously hype both CPAC and the new Cosmos TV series starting on Fox Network on Sunday, and (in the case of the latter) being forced to do so seriously is a fascinating display.

Having to acknowledge serious science at the same time as their root belief of absolute denialism has to be painful for the people in charge of the propoganda there.

145 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:12:23am

Honestly with the way she talks about Latinos and other racial minorities, can someone please tell me why Ann Coulter is different from the people who run Stormfront? I really see no difference in what they say about racial minorities.

146 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:13:18am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Honestly with the way she talks about Latinos and other racial minorities, can someone please tell me why Ann Coulter is different from the people who run Stormfront? I really see no difference in what they say about racial minorities.

Coulter has been ringing that bell for years.

147 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:13:29am

Puzzle me this: people who vaunt their embrace of FACTS and LOGIC seem to have much difficulty with facts and logic.

Multiply by 1.89 if there’s lots of ALLCAPS.

148 ObserverArt  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:13:48am

re: #45 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

SXSW invited Gaga and lost credibility as an indie music fest anyway.

The cycle of life: Rebellion, independence, co-option.

So sad…so true.

149 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:14:36am

re: #146 austin_blue

Coulter has been ringing that bell for years.

That’s my point and yet pretty much no prominent Republican has denounced her ever while she echoes Stormfront attitudes on immigration and gets celebrity status on the right.

150 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:15:09am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Honestly with the way she talks about Latinos and other racial minorities, can someone please tell me why Ann Coulter is different from the people who run Stormfront? I really see no difference in what they say about racial minorities.

1. Say racist things.

2. Claim they’re satire.

3. Write book in which the “satirical” statements are treated seriously.

4. OVERSENSITIVE PUSSY LIBERALS CAN’T TAKE JOKES OR CONTRADICTION

5. Profit!

6. Say racist things….

151 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:15:51am

re: #150 The Ghost of a Flea

1. Say racist things.

2. Claim they’re satire.

3. Write book in which the “satirical” statements are treated seriously.

4. Profit!

5. Say racist things….

Yep she’s been doing it for years. Hatedog millionaire.

152 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:16:21am

Because premarital whoopee is only for Lady Mary.

153 RadicalModerate  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:16:48am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Honestly with the way she talks about Latinos and other racial minorities, can someone please tell me why Ann Coulter is different from the people who run Stormfront? I really see no difference in what they say about racial minorities.

Since her articles regularly have been posted to both there and the equally racist VDare - apparently with her tacit approval as they (at least on my last check) haven’t been forced to be taken down - the comparison is very valid.

154 Stanley Sea  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:16:58am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

That’s my point and yet pretty much no prominent Republican has denounced her ever while she echoes Stormfront attitudes on immigration and gets celebrity status on the right.

They’re just letting her earn her living.

155 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:17:25am

re: #154 Stanley Sea

They’re just letting her earn her living.

Enablers is what they are.

156 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:17:25am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

That’s my point and yet pretty much no prominent Republican has denounced her ever while she echoes Stormfront attitudes on immigration and gets celebrity status on the right.

Logically, that would mean that the rest of the prominent Republicans are…

157 Kragar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:17:48am

re: #152 jaunte

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Because premarital whoopee is only for Lady Mary.

Because birth control should be a luxury only for the rich.
/

158 Ryan King  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:17:56am
159 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:18:22am

re: #153 RadicalModerate

Since her articles regularly have been posted to both there and the equally racist VDare - apparently with her tacit approval as they (at least on my last check) haven’t been forced to be taken down - the comparison is very valid.

Really if you had told me what she just said about her claim that MSNBC wants the “browning of America and anyone who questions it is called racist”, i’d seriously think you got that from a Stormfront or White supremacist blog.

160 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:18:33am

Ok, need a break from that.
Here’s some silliness.
Youtube Video

161 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:18:49am

Aside from the nasty things she says, Coulter has an unpleasantly piercing voice. Hard to listen to for an extended period.

162 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:19:21am

re: #156 austin_blue

Logically, that would mean that the rest of the prominent Republicans are…

I know. I am doing a lot of rhetorical questions here today I am aware. It’s just knowing that and that this party could control both houses of Congress by this time next Spring and forbid the White House three years after this……….scares me.

163 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:20:08am

Michael Smerconish Kicks Off CNN Show by Railing Against Partisan Cable News

Normally you might be the kind of thing that would appeal to me. Partisan activist cable news has been one of my pet peves. But I can’t help seeing though the marketing gimmick of “centrist” fake punditry. He’s reading off a script and a dumbly written one with stupid analogies. Why not just do a serious show and let the audience figure it out? Instead it’s a sales pitch saying “this stuff is market tested to appeal to self identified centrists”. I wish him luck but it doesn’t look like a show that will interest me. Just another marketing gimmick.

164 Stanley Sea  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:20:48am
165 sagehen  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:21:45am

Do I lose my liberal cred if I like Michelle Bachman’s dress?

166 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:24:02am

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Normally you might be the kind of thing that would appeal to me. Partisan activist cable news has been one of my pet peves. But I can’t help seeing though the marketing gimmick of “centrist” fake punditry.

What stopped you from seeing through the marketing gimmick of ‘factcheckers’? This is basically the same deal, but you feel for the factchecker thing like a lead ball going down a greased-up drainpipe.

167 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:24:06am

There’s something about the cadence of a pundit TV character reading a script that just makes me tune out.

168 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:24:13am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

I know. I am doing a lot of rhetorical questions here today I am aware. It’s just knowing that and that this party could control both houses of Congress by this time next Spring and forbid the White House three years after this……….scares me.

And well it should. You should see the collection of ninnies and feebs who won Republican Texas House and Senate primaries down here.

Molly Ivans used to say “Every two years (when the Texas House and Senate meet), villages from all of Texas send their idiots to Austin.”

D.C. is beginning to look that way, too.

169 blueraven  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:24:59am

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Michael Smerconish Kicks Off CNN Show by Railing Against Partisan Cable News

Normally you might be the kind of thing that would appeal to me. Partisan activist cable news has been one of my pet peves. But I can’t help seeing though the marketing gimmick of “centrist” fake punditry he worked at MSNBC.

fixed

170 sagehen  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:25:33am

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Michael Smerconish Kicks Off CNN Show by Railing Against Partisan Cable News

Normally you might be the kind of thing that would appeal to me. Partisan activist cable news has been one of my pet peves. But I can’t help seeing though the marketing gimmick of “centrist” fake punditry. He’s reading off a script and a dumbly written one with stupid analogies. Why not just do a serious show and let the audience figure it out? Instead it’s a sales pitch saying “this stuff is market tested to appeal to self identified centrists”. I wish him luck but it doesn’t look like a show that will interest me. Just another marketing gimmick.

He’s a former Republican who left the party when it went too far to the right.

171 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:26:18am

re: #165 sagehen

Do I lose my liberal cred if I like Michelle Bachman’s dress?

Nope.
Fashion is apolitical.

172 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:27:11am

re: #168 austin_blue

And well it should. You should see the collection of ninnies and feebs who won Texas House and Senate primaries down here.

Molly Ivans used to say “Every two years (when the Texas House and Senate meet), villages from all of Texas send their idiots to Austin.”

D.C. is beginning to look that way, too.

Yeah my longtime non Tea Party Republican Congressman retired after 34 years here. I’m going to be watching who they pick to replace him. The nutcase that said he didn’t know how spousal rape could happen was replaced by another nutcase who claimed Downs Syndrome to be a punishment for abortion. So many damn nuts and yeah it does scare me. It scares me that Jeb Bush may be the most reasonable Republican that may run in 2016 and he’s already started to pander to this crowd.

173 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:27:26am

174 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:27:56am

re: #173 jaunte

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Fashion sense; He has none.

175 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:28:06am

re: #173 jaunte

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You can tell Rand is hip because he’s wearing jeans. But George Will will be pissed.

176 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:28:12am

Whose hand is that under his arm?

177 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:28:26am

re: #169 blueraven

fixed

Did he? I guess that explains it, they’re all using the same marketing gimmick with different target demographics. I guess it’s nice to se that centrists area demographic worthy of marketing attention.

178 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:28:48am

Rand Paul going for Lyle Lovett’s look.

179 A Mom Anon  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:28:51am

re: #173 jaunte

Hey, are those Mom Jeans?

180 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:29:04am

re: #176 jaunte

Whose hand is that under his arm?

Image: afthing1.jpg

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:29:40am

re: #173 jaunte

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mom jeans…

182 Kragar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:29:46am

Well, my brother is having a good weekend.

183 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:29:46am

re: #179 A Mom Anon

Hey, are those Mom Jeans?

Snicker, I’d ask Sarah Palin but she’s too busy being distracted by a Judo fighting dwarf on horseback.

184 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:29:48am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

You can tell Rand is hip because he’s wearing jeans. But George Will will be pissed.

Jeans and scuffed boots. Uber-hip.

185 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:30:53am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

Jeans and scuffed boots. Uber-hip.

He gets the young people, he’s going to quote a lyric from a band that had its first album over 40 years ago!

186 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:31:33am

Ann Coulter warns that Obamacare means foreign doctors trained in foreign countries will takeover healthcare from real American doctors.
Someone should let her know that happened a very long time ago and those “foreign” doctors are pretty damned good.

187 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:31:34am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

He’s been through the desert on a horse with no name.

188 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:32:33am

re: #187 jaunte

He’s been through the desert on a horse with no name.

In Rand’s desert, he doesn’t have a brain. La-la-la-la.

189 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:33:29am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Honestly with the way she talks about Latinos and other racial minorities, can someone please tell me why Ann Coulter is different from the people who run Stormfront? I really see no difference in what they say about racial minorities.

One difference is that Stormfront, like the GOP itself, actually has an outreach to some (white) Latinos, in the form of its Spanish language version.
/but true

190 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:34:35am
191 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:35:19am

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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That’s conservatism for you, Charles. It only makes sense if you’re on a really really bad trip.

192 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:36:26am

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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And “stronger” laws backed with a fence will totally stop illegal immigration.

193 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:37:06am

Shit. Provocation?

194 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:38:04am

But then…

195 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:39:32am
196 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:40:39am

Individual freedoms and government out unless you’re a woman wanting to make her own decisions with her body then you’re a slut who can’t be trusted.

197 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:40:53am

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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And definitely don’t trust anybody to be able to smoke marijuana legally.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:41:00am

Stupid statement: “criminals are by definition criminals”.
But that definition doesn’t (yet) legally include stupid people who shouldn’t have scissors, much less a firearm when there are children in a household with unsecured weapons within their reach.

199 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:41:20am

US Secretary of State John Kerry tells Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that any steps by Russia to annex Crimea, Ukraine, would close the door to diplomacy - @Reuters

end of alert

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:42:28am

Pocket Constitution! He’s the rill dill!

201 Kragar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:44:42am
202 Mattand  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:45:26am

re: #170 sagehen

He’s a former Republican who left the party when it went too far to the right.

For the longest time, he was angling to be Philly’s own homegrown Rush Limbaugh. Right down to have a radio show that was on Philly’s Big Talker/RWNJ AM franchise.

I know I supposed to be all “There’s some rational conservatives” swoony over Smerconish, but the guy still authored a book that contained an endorsement of racially profiling people at airports.

Because brown people and “Muslim-looking” folk are genetically inclined to blow shit up.

Sorry, but I have trust issues with people like that. I don’t give a shit how many times they voted for Obama.

203 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:45:31am

re: #199 Justanotherhuman

US Secretary of State John Kerry tells Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that any steps by Russia to annex Crimea, Ukraine, would close the door to diplomacy - @Reuters

end of alert

I think the Russians are fine with that. At least they won’t have to endure boring meetings.

204 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:45:48am

Ukraine is getting ready for a Russian invasion. If Putin thinks this will be a walk in the park he is mistaken.

Posted on Reddit:

submitted 1 hour ago* by uptodatepronto

Another video purporting to show Ukrainian troops, the Lviv brigade (paratroopers), leaving their barracks today

Youtube Video

Rough translation thanks to /u/cxs: “A COLUMN OF PARATROOPERS IN LVIV It says that this is the 80th Airmobile Brigade (based in Khyriv)”

Video purporting to show Ukrainian 95th motorized brigade on the move from Zhitomir, reportedly on alert

Youtube Video

Rough translation thanks to /u/cxs: “A HUGE COLUMN OF UAF IN ZHITOMYR It says that this unit is the 95th Airmobile Brigade (of Zhitomyr)”

NEW: Third video showing ‘Zhitomir troops’ heading to the front

Youtube Video

Rough translation thanks to /u/cxs “UKRAINIAN TROOPS ARE DISPATCHED TO THE FRONTLINE. ZHITOMYR. It says that these are the 95th and 79th (окрема) Airmobile Brigade

205 freetoken  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:46:16am

re: #144 RadicalModerate

Rupert Murdoch cares about one thing: money.

Fox News exists to make Murdoch money. There is no evidence he even likes many of the people who appear on his own networks.

Murdoch broadcasts them as long as they make him money.

206 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:47:10am

re: #201 Kragar

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It did? I thought there was this thing called the “Continental Army”? Or is he one of those dipshits who watches The Patriot and thinks it’s totally authentic?

207 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:48:55am

Comparing the Kenya mall massacre to a mall shooting here in the states?

good freaking grief…

208 Mattand  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:49:00am

re: #205 freetoken

Rupert Murdoch cares about one thing: money.

Fox News exists to make Murdoch money. There is no evidence he even like many of the people who appear on his own networks.

As long as they make him money.

IIRC, there’s some quote floating about that Murdoch said of Roger Ailes, “He actually believes that stuff”, or some such.

Which to be honest, that kinda make Murdoch worse. He doesn’t care that Fox is a noxious propaganda machine, as long as it makes money.

209 Belafon  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:49:08am

re: #201 Kragar

Once again, I’m pretty sure it had a lot to do with the help we got from foreign countries like France, who trained our soldiers and bankrupted their country to hand the British a defeat.

210 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:51:29am

The Kenya massacre was because it was a gun-free zone in a mall.
Pay no attention to the fact that the incident in Kenya went on for days and there were all sorts of trained official responders…

211 Kragar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:52:11am

re: #209 Belafon

Once again, I’m pretty sure it had a lot to do with the help we got from foreigners like France, who trained our soldiers and bankrupted their country to hand the British a defeat.

Sep 30, 1776: Washington blames militia for problems

In a letter to his nephew, Lund Washington, plantation manager of Mount Vernon, General George Washington writes on this day in 1776 of his displeasure with the undisciplined conduct and poor battlefield performance of the American militia. Washington blamed the Patriot reliance on the militia as the chief root of his problems in the devastating loss of Long Island and Manhattan to the British.

In his letter, Washington wrote, “I am wearied to death all day with a variety of perplexing circumstances, disturbed at the conduct of the militia, whose behavior and want of discipline has done great injury to the other troops, who never had officers, except in a few instances, worth the bread they eat.” Washington added, “In confidence I tell you that I never was in such an unhappy, divided state since I was born.”

212 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:53:36am
213 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:54:05am

re: #206 Targetpractice

It did? I thought there was this thing called the “Continental Army”? Or is he one of those dipshits who watches The Patriot and thinks it’s totally authentic?

General Lafayette has some wonderfully coarse words about how useless the militiamen were without heavy re-training.

But talking about that would require the awkward subject of France’s massive subsidation of our revolution.

214 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:55:00am

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan

Ukraine is getting ready for a Russian invasion. If Putin thinks this will be a walk in the park he is mistaken.

Posted on Reddit:

I still don’t think the Russians are going to have too much difficulty taking what they want by force. The Ukrainians by themselves will be outmatched and the Russians have limitless supplies and reinforcements. The Ukrainians will quickly run out and resupply from NATO would be a serious escalation.

215 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:55:14am

re: #212 Charles Johnson

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Yeah let’s not prohibit guns anywhere. Everything will be great. Hell let’s arm kindergartners because everyone should have a gun no matter how little.

216 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:55:57am

re: #209 Belafon

Once again, I’m pretty sure it had a lot to do with the help we got from foreign countries like France, who trained our soldiers and bankrupted their country to hand the British a defeat.

And the Prussian general who whipped raw militiamen into the Continental Army.

217 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:57:31am

re: #214 Killgore Trout

I still don’t think the Russians are going to have too much difficulty taking what they want by force. The Ukrainians by themselves will be outmatched and the Russians have limitless supplies and reinforcements. The Ukrainians will quickly run out and resupply from NATO would be a serious escalation.

How far do you think Russia will escalate?

218 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:57:44am

re: #214 Killgore Trout

I still don’t think the Russians are going to have too much difficulty taking what they want by force. The Ukrainians by themselves will be outmatched and the Russians have limitless supplies and reinforcements. The Ukrainians will quickly run out and resupply from NATO would be a serious escalation.

But you don’t actually know anything about Russia or the Ukraine.

219 EPR-radar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:58:09am

re: #213 The Ghost of a Flea

Don’t you know that it is intolerably rude to bring up facts when dealing with wingnuts? Especially facts about the American Revolution, the Civil War, and the Southern Strategy?

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220 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:58:42am

re: #214 Killgore Trout

I still don’t think the Russians are going to have too much difficulty taking what they want by force. The Ukrainians by themselves will be outmatched and the Russians have limitless supplies and reinforcements. The Ukrainians will quickly run out and resupply from NATO would be a serious escalation.

Someone said that about Afghanistan once. That didn’t turn out so well for Russia.

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:58:48am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Yeah let’s not prohibit guns anywhere. Everything will be great. Hell let’s arm kindergartners because everyone should have a gun no matter how little.

The kindergarteners can just pick up one of the guns that are just laying around their house…

222 HappyWarrior  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:58:56am

re: #219 EPR-radar

Don’t you know that it is intolerably rude to bring up facts when dealing with wingnuts? Especially facts about the American Revolution, the Civil War, and the Southern Strategy?

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Wingnut history. All the bad guys were lefties and all the good guys were good fearing conservatives who hated “big government.”

223 Belafon  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 11:59:18am

re: #216 Targetpractice

Yep. Just read Kragar’s link. Then tweeted it, facebooked it, and saved the link for later.

224 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:00:32pm

re: #217 Justanotherhuman

How far do you think Russia will escalate?

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I don’t know but I do feel confident the Russian appetite for escalation far exceeds that of NATO or the US.

225 JustMark  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:01:14pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Carly Fiorina is mad, sick and tired…

And she damn near wrecked HP.

226 bratwurst  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:02:22pm

re: #218 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

But you don’t actually know anything about Russia or the Ukraine.

Now what would make you say that?

Oh, aside from the fact that a few months ago he didn’t know there was any difference between Russia and Ukraine at all:

littlegreenfootballs.com

227 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:04:10pm

re: #226 bratwurst

I hadn’t actually seen that idiocy. More recently, he fatuously declared that Russia’s main business partners are authoritarian regimes, which is Fox-News level ignorance, given how much we’ve been reminded since the beginning of this that Russia ships tons of gas to Europe.

228 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:05:16pm

Where’s the damned IRS on this kind of crap?

Elevation Church pastor sells books from pulpit

wcnc.com

229 calochortus  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:07:09pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ann Coulter warns that Obamacare means foreign doctors trained in foreign countries will takeover healthcare from real American doctors.
Someone should let her know that happened a very long time ago and those “foreign” doctors are pretty damned good.

Well, gee, my white ‘Murican male gp has quit practicing medicine (OK, he was 65 or so, and wanted to retire) He has been replaced by a female Indian immigrant. (She seems nice, speaks better English than a lot of people I know and went to med. school in the US)

ObamaCare is destroying my health!!!11!

230 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:07:25pm

re: #213 The Ghost of a Flea

General Lafayette has some wonderfully coarse words about how useless the militiamen were without heavy re-training.

But talking about that would require the awkward subject of France’s massive subsidation of our revolution.

Yep, as did Washington.

231 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:12:40pm

This is why the US and the EU are getting nowhere with Putin. Here is a small list of scum Putin is working with.

232 jaunte  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:13:38pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

“Gun-free zones are such dangerous places.”

233 Kragar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:13:39pm

George Washington on “a well regulated militia”

“The Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency, for these purposes they ought to be duly organized into Commands of the same formation… By keeping up in Peace ‘a well regulated, and disciplined Militia,’ we shall take the fairest and best method to preserve, for a long time to come, the happiness, dignity and Independence of our Country.”

George Washington, in “Sentiments on a Peace Establishment” in a letter to Alexander Hamilton (2 May 1783); published in The Writings of George Washington (1938), edited by John C. Fitzpatrick, Vol. 26, p. 289.

Nothing there about a bunch of random assholes with whatever guns they could buy gunning down people in their own neighborhoods.

234 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:16:08pm

Iraqi women protest against proposed Islamic law in Iraq

reuters.com

(Reuters) - About two dozen Iraqi women demonstrated on Saturday in Baghdad against a draft law approved by the Iraqi cabinet that would permit the marriage of nine-year-old girls and automatically give child custody to fathers.

“The group’s protest was on International Women’s Day and a week after the cabinet voted for the legislation, based on Shi’ite Islamic jurisprudence, allowing clergy to preside over marriages, divorces and inheritances. The draft now goes to parliament.

“On this day of women, women of Iraq are in mourning,” the protesters shouted.”

SOS, different year.

235 Belafon  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:17:29pm

re: #234 Justanotherhuman

SOS, different year country.

236 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:18:52pm

re: #235 Belafon

Both. One step forward, 2 steps back, it seems.

237 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:20:11pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Ben Carson says “ideologues just believe what they want to believe and no facts will stop them.”

Ben Carson is a young Earth creationist.

I love that tweet from Charles. Sometimes, it’s beautiful when the facts just speak for themselves.

238 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:21:12pm

re: #231 NJDhockeyfan

This is why the US and the EU are getting nowhere with Putin. Here is a small list of scum Putin is working with.

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I’m skeptical.

…the Kremlin’s strategy emerged haphazardly, even misleadingly, over a tense and momentous week, as an emotional Mr. Putin acted out of what the officials described as a deep sense of betrayal and grievance, especially toward the United States and Europe.

I think it was the NYT that also originated the “Putin is nuts” story last week. I’m not buying it, I think Putin thought this through and made a calculated gamble.

239 blueraven  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:22:04pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

Did he? I guess that explains it, they’re all using the same marketing gimmick with different target demographics. I guess it’s nice to se that centrists area demographic worthy of marketing attention.

I am surprised you didnt know that. You seem quite obsessed with MSNBC

littlegreenfootballs.com

as opposed to CNN

littlegreenfootballs.com

or Fox

littlegreenfootballs.com

240 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:23:32pm

I can’t wrap my head around this. According to Wikipedia, Ben Carson, retired neurosurgeon, “is credited with being the first surgeon to successfully separate conjoined twins joined at the head.” So he was not only a neurosurgeon, but a very impressive one.

How can such an accomplished person be a young earth creationist, which shows profound hostility to the scientific method?

I’m as guilty as anyone else, but I’m fascinated by how a person can be so smart in some areas, and so stupid in other areas. Sometimes I wish I’d majored in psychology. I’m really curious what “President Barack Obama” means to Dr. Carson.

241 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:24:33pm

re: #240 Ming

I can’t wrap my head around this. According to Wikipedia, Ben Carson, retired neurosurgeon, “He is credited with being the first surgeon to successfully separate conjoined twins joined at the head.”

How can such an accomplished person be a young earth creationist, which shows profound hostility to the scientific method?

I’m as guilty as anyone else, but I’m fascinated by how a person can be so smart in some areas, and so stupid in other areas. Sometimes I wish I’d majored in psychology.

Compartmentalization.

242 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:25:10pm

Russian military mined the main gas pipe in the Crimea. Danger of a man-made disaster at the peninsula

euromaidanpr.wordpress.com

“Military intruders unearthed the main gas pipeline near Armiansk in Crimea. The security zone of this line is normally 200 meters. Yet, the outsiders have dug in an armored transport vehicle 5 meters from the gas line and laid mines next to it. Thus, any bullet or shrapnel that hits the pipe would cause an explosion. Gas engineers are not being allowed to enter the the site and are being kept out by gunmen. They are being told that it is an exclusion zone. Senior managers of “Chornomornaftogaz” urged Ukrainian and local Crimean authorities to take the “little green men” away from the local security zone. Moreover, parallel to this pipe a more powerful line lies, “Kharkivtransgaz”. ” If, God forbid, a gas pipeline explodes in this place, the exclusion zone will become a devastated wasteland and additionally, most of the Crimea will be left without any gas”, said Serhiy Golovin, Chairman of the Board at “Chornomornaftogaz “. The Russian military could trigger a man-made disaster in the Crimea.”

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:25:39pm

oooh…now a lecture from CPAC to put Ukraine “in context”…

244 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:25:44pm

re: #242 Justanotherhuman

Russian military mined the main gas pipe in the Crimea. Danger of a man-made disaster at the peninsula

euromaidanpr.wordpress.com

“Military intruders unearthed the main gas pipeline near Armiansk in Crimea. The security zone of this line is normally 200 meters. Yet, the outsiders have dug in an armored transport vehicle 5 meters from the gas line and laid mines next to it. Thus, any bullet or shrapnel that hits the pipe would cause an explosion. Gas engineers are not being allowed to enter the the site and are being kept out by gunmen. They are being told that it is an exclusion zone. Senior managers of “Chornomornaftogaz” urged Ukrainian and local Crimean authorities to take the “little green men” away from the local security zone. Moreover, parallel to this pipe a more powerful line lies, “Kharkivtransgaz”. ” If, God forbid, a gas pipeline explodes in this place, the exclusion zone will become a devastated wasteland and additionally, most of the Crimea will be left without any gas”, said Serhiy Golovin, Chairman of the Board at “Chornomornaftogaz “. The Russian military could trigger a man-made disaster in the Crimea.”

Oh, that’s smart.
Idiots.

245 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:25:54pm

re: #239 blueraven

I am surprised you didnt know that. You seem quite obsessed with MSNBC

littlegreenfootballs.com

as opposed to CNN

littlegreenfootballs.com

or Fox

littlegreenfootballs.com

I don’t watch cable news. Just about the only tv I see is snippets online.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:26:40pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

I don’t watch cable news. Just about the only tv I see is snippets online.

news by snippets online…explains much…

247 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:26:51pm

re: #240 Ming

I can’t wrap my head around this. According to Wikipedia, Ben Carson, retired neurosurgeon, “He is credited with being the first surgeon to successfully separate conjoined twins joined at the head.”

How can such an accomplished person be a young earth creationist, which shows profound hostility to the scientific method?

I’m as guilty as anyone else, but I’m fascinated by how a person can be so smart in some areas, and so stupid in other areas. Sometimes I wish I’d majored in psychology.

Expertise, even skill mastery, in one area, does not actually transfer to other contiguous area of knowledge.

As a neurosurgeon, he’s got a sense of brain anatomy good enough to perform highly delicate surgery. Doesn’t mean he grasps any other part of biology at all well.

ETA: And it suggests a basic dishonesty on his part, or at least at least unjustified arrogance, to suggest that his skillset means he has any insight into evolutionary biology . It’s Argument From Authority.

248 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:28:02pm

re: #244 Varek Raith

Oh, that’s smart.
Idiots.

Scorched earth.

If the Russians lose Crimea, they’ll damned well see to it that it becomes a disaster area.

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:28:11pm

Friends!

250 Belafon  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:28:46pm

re: #240 Ming

Neurosurgeons aren’t necessarily scientists. Instead, they are more like engineers. While it takes brains and skill to be a neurosurgeon, like other forms of engineering it doesn’t actually require a lot of knowledge of the underlying science, nor of the methods for verifying the science.

251 EPR-radar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:30:39pm

re: #240 Ming

I can’t wrap my head around this. According to Wikipedia, Ben Carson, retired neurosurgeon, “He is credited with being the first surgeon to successfully separate conjoined twins joined at the head.”

How can such an accomplished person be a young earth creationist, which shows profound hostility to the scientific method?

I’m as guilty as anyone else, but I’m fascinated by how a person can be so smart in some areas, and so stupid in other areas. Sometimes I wish I’d majored in psychology.

Although some doctors are medical researchers that practice science as part of their profession, most doctors simply aren’t scientists. So the conflict isn’t as deep as it may appear.

Similarly, some creationists are engineers, and like to blur the distinction between engineering and science in order to claim their nonsense is scientific.

252 EPR-radar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:32:14pm

re: #247 The Ghost of a Flea

If the Argument from Authority is taken away from young earth creationists, they literally have nothing left to say.

253 blueraven  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:33:01pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

I don’t watch cable news. Just about the only tv I see is snippets online.

Yet you seem, nevertheless, to be well schooled enough on Rachel Maddow and other MSNBC pundits to offer many opinions, but not any at Fox or CNN.

Selective Outrage?

254 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:53:14pm
255 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:54:22pm

State Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN) going on about the horrible estate taxes that are killing family farms & businesses.

Hey, senator…smart people know something called “estate planning” that fixes that little problem.

256 EPR-radar  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:57:32pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN) going on about the horrible estate taxes that are killing family farms & businesses.

Hey, senator…smart people know something called “estate planning” that fixes that little problem.

More to the point, about the first $5 million in an estate is not subject to the tax at all. Not so incidentally, I’d like to see the laws changed to end the usefulness of estate planning tricks.

257 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:07:27pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Michael Smerconish Kicks Off CNN Show by Railing Against Partisan Cable News
…

This relates to a topic we were all discussing a few days ago. Although I continue to admire President Obama, I unhappily realized last week that this is one area where I deeply disagree with him: his normination of Debo Adegbile to head the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

Anyway, this is the same Michael Smerconish who co-wrote a book on this whole topic with the murder victim’s widow.

I have no connection to any of the people involved. I followed this news story 30 years ago, maybe because I used to live near Philadelphia. (I should probably emphasize that when Debo Adegbile got involved in the case, this was not a question of giving Mumia access to legal representation. He had plenty of that. This was a question of giving Mumia extra-special legal resources. There are so many African Americans in prison who desperately need and DESERVE better legal representation; some of them are actually innocent! To give Mumia of all people even more legal resources, while so many other inmates are starving for legal resources, is not something I agree with.)

That story aside, it seems to me that Michael Smerconish will be a significant improvement for CNN. (Of course, they’re not starting from a high point.) Honestly, what what I know about him, I would go so far as to say that if MSNBC, CNN, and Fox got a few more anchors like Smerconish, the quality of TV journalism would improve significantly.

258 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:16:30pm

GOP pollster at CPAC has many, many charts broke down by race and focusing on how whites are becoming a minority.

But there’s no race problem…nope….

259 Mattand  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:30:15pm

re: #257 Ming

See my #202.

I’m really trying to give Smerconish the benefit of the doubt, but I’m inherently suspicious of all these conservative voters, politicians and pundits who are now “independent” after years voting Republican.

260 palomino  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:37:50pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Yes, remember the GOP slogan of the early 2000’s: “We create our own reality.” So, Obama may have 3 years left in office, but if we wish hard enough, it will all stop.

261 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:44:14pm

re: #257 Ming

He worked for the ACLU, and was asked to work on the Abu-Jamal case. He did so—not to any gigantic extent, but in a particular appeal based on the jury bias, which was found to have merit.

I do not understand why people focus on this so wildly, and let that one particular case define the man. Can you explain? Do you know any of his other work—like defending the VRA twice?

262 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:45:55pm

re: #259 Mattand

See my #202.

I’m really trying to give Smerconish the benefit of the doubt, but I’m inherently suspicious of all these conservative voters, politicians and pundits who are now “independent” after years voting Republican.

I’m sorry; you’re absolutely right. I didn’t know that. I had the impression from the recent CNN video clip that Smerconish hadn’t flirted with right-wing lunacy. I’m afraid that a Google of Smerconish Muslim” proved me wrong.

Thanks for the correction!

(Well, I hope the CNN video clip of Smerconish might mean he’s now more reasonable… anyway time will tell.)

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 1:51:17pm

CPAC reaction, in one graphic.

264 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 2:01:59pm

re: #261 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

He worked for the ACLU, and was asked to work on the Abu-Jamal case. He did so—not to any gigantic extent, but in a particular appeal based on the jury bias, which was found to have merit.

I do not understand why people focus on this so wildly, and let that one particular case define the man. Can you explain? Do you know any of his other work—like defending the VRA twice?

I take your point. Your view of him is better-balanced than mine. Actually, I don’t know about his other work.

“I do not understand why people focus on this so wildly, and let that one particular case define the man. Can you explain?” Speaking for myself, knowing (1) the details of the Mumia case, which really are “a mountain of evidence” of his guilt, in my opinion a very high degree certainty, (2) how many other convicts need and deserve better legal representation, and (3) related to 2, how many other convicts are actually innocent, I must say I have a problem with anyone who would choose Mumia, instead of another convict, to help.

This is quite an analogy, but it feels to me like someone who becomes involved in the “birther” inquiries. I see the question of Mumia’s guilt as a non-issue, just like the ridiculous “birther” non-issue. As I said a few days ago in an LGF comment, I view the entire Mumia case as one of the most grotesque examples of our legal system that I’ve head of in my entire life… and that’s really saying something.

Obviously I shouldn’t go too far in my disagreement with Mr. Adegbile… I’m just trying to say that I can understand why his nomination to head the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department touched a nerve with quite a few people.

265 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 2:04:55pm

re: #264 Ming

I take your point. Your view of him is better-balanced than mine. Actually, I don’t know about his other work.

Then why on earth would you say he was a bad choice? Wouldn’t you need to know his other work?

“I do not understand why people focus on this so wildly, and let that one particular case define the man. Can you explain?” Speaking for myself, knowing (1) the details of the Mumia case, which really are “a mountain of evidence” of his guilt, in my opinion a very high degree certainty, (2) how many other convicts need and deserve better legal representation, and (3) related to 2, how many other convicts are actually innocent, I must say I have a problem with anyone who would choose Mumia, instead of another convict, to help.

Cases aren’t just fought for the defendant, but for the principles. Mumia is, in my eyes, definitely guilty . There were still substantial flaws and worrying concerns in his case, and litigating those is not an assault on the law, they are a strengthening of it.

This is quite an analogy, but it feels to me like someone who becomes involved in the “birther” inquiries. I see the question of Mumia’s guilt as a non-issue, just like the ridiculous “birther” non-issue. As I said a few days ago in an LGF comment, I view the entire Mumia case as one of the most grotesque examples of our legal system that I’ve head of in my entire life… and that’s really saying something.

That is a shitty, horrible, and awful example, with no merit to it. There were actual problems with Mumia’s case. There is no reason, none, not the slightest inkling of even a motive, for the birther nonsense.

Obviously I shouldn’t go too far in my disagreement with Mr. Adegbile… I’m just trying to say that I can understand why his nomination to head the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department touched a nerve with quite a few people.

I think that his work on the VRA is what really touched the nerve, and the Abu-Jamal thing was then brought in as ammo to use against him. The NRO article that Dark Falcon quoted the other day explicitly attacked him for his work defending the VRA.

266 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 2:07:04pm

re: #265 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You make a very good point, which I hadn’t considered: separating the guilt versus innocence question from the question of legal principles. I’ll keep that in mind in the future.

267 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 2:10:36pm

re: #266 Ming

You make a very good point, which I hadn’t considered: separating the guilt versus innocence question from the question of legal principles. I’ll keep that in mind in the future.

For a final perspective to help you understand why this touches a nerve with me: Yet again, a black candidate for high appointed office has been blocked on very dubious grounds. This has happened over, and over, and over.

268 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 2:18:00pm

re: #267 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

For a final perspective to help you understand why this touches a nerve with me: Yet again, a black candidate for high appointed office has been blocked on very dubious grounds. This has happened over, and over, and over.

That bothers me as well. I continue to be stunned and amazed by the Senate obstruction of so many Obama nominees, year after year. This strikes at the heart of our entire Constitutional system.

269 Ming  Sat, Mar 8, 2014 2:19:26pm

re: #268 Ming

I should add, the obvious racist overtones are deeply troubling to me as well. This should not be happening in America, in 2014.


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