Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) Says People Who Criticize the Koch Brothers Should Be Prosecuted Under the RICO Act

“All the billionaires seem to be on the radical left”
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The latest Republican crackpot to come out in defense of the Koch brothers and their big, big far right money: the always fully-deranged Michele Bachmann.

Bachmann advocates using the RICO Act against people who criticize the Koch brothers.

I just thank God that there’s a billionaire or two on our side. All the billionaires seem to be on the radical left, so I’m glad that we have a couple on ours. I hope we get a few more that are willing that come out but realize also this is an intimidation movement, I’m sure that the donors on our side don’t like to have their names vilified and that’s what this is about, intimidating people from giving money to our cause, that’s it. There’s something called the RICO statute, the racketeering law, that should be applied against them for doing this.

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1 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:37:47pm

That’s some top notch word salad….

2 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:38:50pm

So, criticism = intimidation, in Bachmann Land.

3 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:38:56pm

There’s the problem with self invented morons. They don’t recognize irony.

4 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:39:21pm
5 Kragar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:41:07pm
6 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:41:26pm

In response to Rusbridger:

7 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:43:35pm
8 ericblair  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:43:36pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

“every society in the world has benefited from my existence. But enough about me. How do you feel about me?”

And I look forward to the next data dump/outrage-o-rama coincidentally timed to US diplomatic efforts with the EU.

9 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:43:45pm

I’m guessing those “radical left” billionaires would be people like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Mike Bloomberg, and Elon Musk who are, I dunno, dedicated on some level to bettering American (and world) society rather than squeezing every last cent out of this country before lighting a match, Goodfellas-style, like the Koch boys.

I suppose I shouldn’t post this, lest Ol’ Crazy Eyes come at me for violating the RICO statutes. I probably also violated Hoot-Smalley along they way too.

10 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:44:09pm

re: #2 jaunte

So, criticism = intimidation, in Bachmann Land.

Party of smaller government.

11 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:45:32pm

re: #9 Ian G.

The Gates Foundation also promotes charter schools in a really damaging way, it’s not all left-wing happy fun times.

12 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:46:47pm

re: #11 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The Gates Foundation also promotes charter schools in a really damaging way, it’s not all left-wing happy fun times.

Not saying it’s left wing at all, but that the lunatic Congresswoman from Minnesota thinks it is.

13 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:48:34pm
14 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:48:36pm
15 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:49:23pm

It’s easier to check on these kinds of nonsensical claims with sites like opensecrets.org, which let you try and follow the money.

opensecrets.org

opensecrets.org

Top individual contributors to 527s?

opensecrets.org

Goes to right leaning groups.

16 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:51:25pm
17 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:51:29pm

WTF is this supposed to mean?

18 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:52:47pm
19 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:53:50pm
20 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:54:25pm

And so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean (especially at CPAC), and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches:

New Apple iWatch Concept Showcases Stunning Circular Design

Apple iWatch concept

21 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:54:43pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

%^$@$@#! *hopelessly claws at eyes in an attempt to unsee pic*

22 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:55:20pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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WTF is this supposed to mean?


This is the kind of logic fail readers can expect in future from exciting new First Look Media!

23 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:57:02pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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Nope.

24 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:57:12pm

re: #19 Gus

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Wrong orifice for douche. Just sayin’.

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25 GunstarGreen  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:59:23pm

“We’re the party of PRODUCERS™ and the HARD-WORKIN’ MILLIONAIRES™! IT just seems so weird that all of the BILLionaires happen to be on the other side. They’re all terrible people and should be hit with RICO!”

WHY DO YOU WANT TO PUNISH SUCCESS!!1!1!?11!/1!?!/!?!?!1

26 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 12:59:37pm

OT…

On the phone with my bank trying to figure out why I’m getting a $14 maintainance fee…..

27 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:01:37pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Donald Trump says the same thing, doesn’t he?

28 GunstarGreen  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:01:38pm

re: #26 Bulworth

OT…

On the phone with my bank trying to figure out why I’m getting a $14 maintainance fee…..

Because fuck you, that’s why. Welcome to the American banking system.

29 Mattand  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:02:41pm

Jesus, Michelle Bachmann is dumb.

Like, somehow-burn-the-house-down-while-tying-your-shoes dumb.

What’s scary is that a majority of people in her district looked at the monument to stupidity that is her intellect, and said, “Yup. That’s who we want to represent us in Congress!”

30 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:03:26pm

All the billionaires seem to be on the radical left

and that attila the hun, what a commie wimpsicle

31 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:04:53pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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WTF is this supposed to mean?

Because we invaded Iraq, Russia’s de facto annexation of Crimea is OK, or something.

The right did this when Abu Ghraib came to light. Because Saddam Hussein was an evil monster, waterboarding by the US is OK.

I dunno, my brain springs a leak when trying to follow this logic.

32 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:05:38pm

re: #29 Mattand

What’s scary is that a majority of people who turned out to vote on election day, or voted early in her district looked at the monument to stupidity that is her intellect, and said, “Yup. That’s who we want to represent us in Congress!”

FTFY. Turnout is everything. Remember that next election, everybody. And make sure your registration is up to date TODAY. Did you move? Did your name change? Reregister!

33 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:07:22pm

re: #31 Ian G.

Because we invaded Iraq, Russia’s de facto annexation of Crimea is OK, or something.

The right did this when Abu Ghraib came to light. Because Saddam Hussein was an evil monster, waterboarding by the US is OK.

I dunno, my brain springs a leak when trying to follow this logic.

wingers give this fallacy an extra twist with the “if the shoe was on the other foot, left wingers would be just as big assholes as we are being now”

34 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:07:52pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

FTFY. Turnout is everything. Remember that next election, everybody. And make sure your registration is up to date TODAY. Did you move? Did your name change? Reregister!

Yup. I moved 2 months before the 2012 election, but was easily able to re-register, and went to vote despite the presence of the militant black panther intimidating me where a nice black man held the door open for me.

35 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:08:05pm

Some people want to take the money out of politics and some people want a few more benevolent billionaire funders.

36 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:08:26pm

re: #21 CuriousLurker

%^$@$@#! *hopelessly claws at eyes in an attempt to unsee pic*

Every once in a while, he needs a downding.

37 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:08:40pm

LOLWTF

38 Kragar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:10:10pm

re: #33 dog philosopher

wingers give this fallacy an extra twist with the “if the shoe was on the other foot, left wingers would be just as big assholes as we are being now”

Conservative paranoia is based on the theory that other people would be as big a bunch of assholes as they are if given the chance

39 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:10:30pm

Some more info on trying to locate debris form flight MH370, emphasis mine:

As Malaysia Expands Search Area for Missing Jet, Wide Speculation Over Its Fate

WASHINGTON — Watching a seat-back display with a plane-shaped icon gliding across the map, it is easy to forget that in true scale, the airplane is very small and the route very large. As the hours and days drag by with no trace of the Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared over the Gulf of Thailand early Saturday, the world is getting a reminder that if something goes wrong on a jet five miles up in the sky, traveling at 10 miles a minute, it can cover a lot of ground — or water — before it comes down to earth. […]

It is not yet known whether the Malaysian plane deviated from its planned flight path, or how long the pilots could still fly the aircraft after the last reported contact. Assuming that the plane remained in powered flight or a controlled glide, the potential search area would have to be wide and long, covering thousands of square miles. After more than two days of fruitless search, Malaysian officials expanded the search area on Monday.

The rule of thumb for a crew planning a normal descent to an airport is to allow three miles of distance for every thousand feet of altitude. So a jetliner at 30,000 feet that cut its engines to idle would fly another 90 miles or so before reaching a runway near sea level. […]

But extended searches are sometimes needed. When Air France Flight 447 vanished over the Atlantic in June 2009, it took five days to find any wreckage, and almost two years to find the black boxes. Similarly, the cockpit data recorder from a South African Airways Boeing 747 that went down in November 1987 was not located until January 1989. It revealed that the plane crashed because of a fire onboard, not because of an act of terrorism, so no further search was conducted for the flight data recorder, the other black box. […]

nytimes.com

40 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:10:58pm

re: #28 GunstarGreen

This took a while to figure out, but apparently I’m so old and have been with this bank so long I have a checking account type that doesn’t exist anymore and its terms sucked anyway. So I believe I have convinced The Man to stop Keeping Me Down by switching me to another type of checking account which will probably start charging me exhorbitant fees again when it think I’m not paying attention anymore.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:11:11pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

NOW I HAVE TO GOUGE OUT MY OWN EYES WITH A RUSTY SCREWDRIVER!!!!

42 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:13:11pm

re: #39 CuriousLurker

Some more info on trying to locate debris form flight MH370, emphasis mine:

Yep. I’m calling the 17,250 hour rule on this.

43 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:14:07pm

re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWTF

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Hitler, 9/11, and Obama. Where are the lizard people?

44 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:14:47pm

re: #43 Ian G.

Hitler, 9/11, and Obama. Where are the lizard people?

We’re trying to lay low. Don’t blow our cover.

45 Mattand  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:16:10pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

FTFY. Turnout is everything. Remember that next election, everybody. And make sure your registration is up to date TODAY. Did you move? Did your name change? Reregister!

Good point. Although I still don’t understand how a supposedly rational adult can look at someone like Bachmann and trust her to run the country.

46 Ian G.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:16:11pm

re: #39 CuriousLurker

What’s strange is the total lack of any distress signal from the plane. One would think that if they were in some sort of controlled dive (or even an uncontrolled one), they could have sent a distress signal.

47 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:16:19pm

re: #31 Ian G.

Exactly, it’s all very simple. Russia can set up new gulag’s now all over the world and it’s OK because Iraq. //

48 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:16:51pm

re: #38 Kragar

Conservative paranoia is based on the theory that other people would be as big a bunch of assholes as they are if given the chance

i’m sure they think jesus said “do unto others before they do it unto you”

49 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:19:09pm
50 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:23:20pm

re: #45 Mattand

Good point. Although I still don’t understand how a supposedly rational adult can look at someone like Bachmann and trust her to run the country.

It’s usually a case of she got into office because she ran a good campaign and had a terrible opponent, then constituent service and the power of incumbency takes over.

It’s really hard to dislodge elected officials.

51 klys  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:23:21pm

re: #46 Ian G.

What’s strange is the total lack of any distress signal from the plane. One would think that if they were in some sort of controlled dive (or even an uncontrolled one), they could have sent a distress signal.

And even if they didn’t send a distress signal, there is an automated uplink (via satellite) that typically reports some data (ACARS) which also apparently stopped around the time of last reported radar (technically transponder) contact.

(That data was helpful when trying to determine what happened with the AF flight, although obviously the black boxes were the most helpful.)

Which does beg the question why their systems aren’t configured to alert when a plane in the air stops sending these status report messages, because you would think that could help narrow search windows/speed up search response times.

52 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:25:44pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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The man who is invading Ukraine hand’s were tied when it came to getting Snowden past the gate clerk and on to an airplane.

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53 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:26:30pm
54 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:26:55pm

FYI, for the shutterbugs on LGF, Adorama’s got a photo contest where the winner can get a Canon 6D or a Nikon D610.

blog.adoramapix.com

55 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:27:34pm

So, if I were an Edward Snowden supporter, why, exactly, would I not be concerned that he was stuck in Russia?

I mean, giant privacy violating, authoritarian state with no due process. At any instant, his stay there could go bad. Indeed, since he’s specifically being handled by the FSB, he could already be a de facto prisoner.

One of things that just keeps smelling wrong to me is how the above doesn’t seem to emerge. It should be a real concern, even if you approve of everything he’s done.

Deflecting by talking about the US is misdirection; human rights abuses and privacy concerns have no zero sum component, where if one country is bad, you’re not allowed to criticize others.

56 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:27:56pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Eenie Meenie Miney…. Hey Moe!

57 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:28:30pm

There was a James Bond movie where the bad guys had this underground lair that opened up and it was where they landed the rocket space ship thing they stold. US and Soviets almost went to war. Confirmed. FACT.

58 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:30:51pm
59 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:33:08pm

re: #58 Gus

There’s that tech savvy Greenwald again. Not even the slightest bit aware how that comes off.

Tech-illiterate writing about stuff, where it’s noun, verb, bad US, rinse and repeat.

60 Zirgar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35:08pm

With Pedro Almodovar hiring all these insufferable douches for his news gathering thingy over at First Look Media, I can now rest assured that all the “journalists” I want to ignore will be located in one place! It’s a whole new journalistic paradigm!

61 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:37:45pm

re: #58 Gus

The South by South West festival?

/

62 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:40:23pm
63 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:40:32pm

re: #58 Gus

Live streaming is cool. /

64 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:42:08pm

re: #58 Gus

Do they have live streaming now on the interweb? That’s groovy!

65 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:43:17pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Do they have live streaming now on the interweb? That’s groovy!

next you’ll be telling me that there are nekked pictures out there too. Getoutta here….


RBS

66 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:43:25pm

re: #58 Gus

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Live in front of a previously recorded audience.

67 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:44:31pm

re: #54 lawhawk

FYI, for the shutterbugs on LGF, Adorama’s got a photo contest where the winner can get a Canon 6D or a Nikon D610.

blog.adoramapix.com

Thanks for the link. I’m shuffling through a few to see if any of them might make the cut. Probably not - my taste in photography is not that of the judges of things like this … ;)

But it would be nice to sell a CanNikon to buy some good m4/3 gear ;)

If anyone cares to look, the one’s I’m pondering are here: picasaweb.google.com

68 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:45:21pm

It’s a series of tubes.

69 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:47:03pm
70 AntonSirius  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:47:12pm

re: #68 b.d.

It’s a series of tubes.

That’s where everybody gets it wrong. It’s actually tubes in a series.

71 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:48:21pm

re: #60 Zirgar

With Pedro Almodovar Pierre Omidyar hiring all these insufferable douches for his news gathering thingy over at First Look Media

FTFY.

Pierre Omidyar is the founder of eBay and the dudebro responsible for First Look. Pedro Almodovar is a Spanish film director.

72 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:48:30pm

re: #54 lawhawk

FYI, for the shutterbugs on LGF, Adorama’s got a photo contest where the winner can get a Canon 6D or a Nikon D610.

blog.adoramapix.com

Oh I gotta enter that one. Best of 2103, hmmm.

Thanks Lawhawk. I can work a 6D into the stable. Yup.

73 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:48:51pm

Pretty awesome

The San Francisco Chronicle reported on Monday that Larry Ellison, the billionaire owner of 98 percent of Lanai, wants to hold the 2017 America’s Cup yacht race in Hawaii

Ellison said he wants the next America’s Cup to involve regattas all over the world “leading up to the Louis Vuitton Cup, and the main event, the America’s Cup, likely taking place in Honolulu,” according to the newspaper.

staradvertiser.com

74 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:49:35pm

Wow, the way Greenwald fans think really does amaze me sometimes.

75 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:49:44pm

re: #69 Lidane

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Steven needs to lay off the chimichangas.

76 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:50:08pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Charles is there a convenient way to look at my image library for just 2013?

77 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:51:26pm

re: #76 Political Atheist

Charles is there a convenient way to look at my image library for just 2013?

Hmm, no, not at present. Would be a good idea to have a date filter. On the to-do list.

78 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:51:48pm

Michele Bachmann Laments That ‘The Gay Community Have So Bullied The American People’

The Minnesota congresswoman told talk show host Lars Larson in an interview at CPAC that the gay community distorted the Arizona bill by making it about gay rights — even though the bill’s sponsor himself said it was about same-sex marriage.

“There’s nothing about gays in there, but the gay community decided to make this their measure,” Bachmann said. “And the thing that I think is getting a little tiresome is the gay community have so bullied the American people and they have so intimidated politicians that politicians fear them and they think they get to dictate the agenda everywhere. Well, not with the Constitution you don’t.”

She added that gay people and “activist judges” are trying to take away her freedom: “If you want take away my religious liberties, you can advocate for that but you do it through the constitutional process and you don’t intimidate and no politician should give away my religious liberties or yours.”

…I got nothing.

79 TedStriker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:52:37pm

re: #69 Lidane

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Is it just me or does it seem like Segal’s wearing a hairpiece? That widow’s peak and coloring seems a bit too…perfect.

80 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:53:44pm

re: #79 TedStriker

Is it just me or does it seem like Segal’s wearing a hairpiece? That widow’s peak and coloring seems a bit too…perfect.

I think he’s fake from top to bottom.

81 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:55:47pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Hmm, no, not at present. Would be a good idea to have a date filter. On the to-do list.

Thanks. In the meantime I’ll use Picasa. That’s pretty good at filtering a terabyte or whatever of raw & mov files.

That contest looks worthwhile.

82 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:56:23pm

Minnesota GOP state legislature uses Twitter—probably shouldn’t.

Minn. legislator eventually apologizes for ill-considered, uninformed, racially dubious tweet about NBA, ‘streetcrime’

Also wants moar gunz.

Filed under Shocking.

83 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:59:04pm

re: #78 The Ghost of a Flea

So who won the straw poll at CPAC this year?

84 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:59:17pm

re: #83 Bulworth

So who won the straw poll at CPAC this year?

Rand Paul.

85 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:02:36pm

re: #58 Gus

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Lamestream maybe…

86 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:03:19pm
87 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:04:12pm

re: #84 Lidane

Thanks

88 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:04:32pm

re: #86 Lidane

True Patriotism. Freedom. Liberty. //

89 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:08:30pm

re: #87 Bulworth

Thanks

No worries. The CPAC straw poll results:

Rand Paul: 31%
Ted Cruz: 11%
Ben Carson: 9%
Chris Christie: 8%
Rick Santorum: 7%
Marco Rubio: 6%
Paul Ryan: 3%
Rick Perry: 3%
Bobby Jindal: 2%
Condi Rice: 2%
Mike Huckabee: 2%
Sarah Palin: 2%

90 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:09:05pm

In other news. Neil deGrasse Tyson is now the most famous atheist in America and possibly the world. :D

91 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:10:21pm

re: #89 Lidane

No worries. The CPAC straw poll results:

He left out ‘other’ who tied with Dr. Carson. I wonder how many got those two mixed up?

92 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:10:57pm

re: #90 Gus

In other news. Neil deGrasse Tyson is now the most famous atheist in America and possibly the world. :D

Good, I like him as an ambassador for atheism much better than Dawkins.

93 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:11:25pm

Since it whipped Cosmos ratings something fierce, I decided to watch the premier of Resurrection.

Discovered it is based on the popular book The Returned, and there is a French series already that covers this: The Returned.

I stick by my admittedly cynical view that Americans would much rather view religious/mystical/magickal stories than actual “science fiction”, and even much more so a science documentary (Cosmos), no matter how glitzy the documentary.

Watching Resurrection I was constantly reminded of The Dome - a story with unknown antagonists and forced social-commentary protagonists.

With no real ending.

94 Bulworth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:12:12pm

re: #89 Lidane

Bobby Jindal on a roll, I see, among many others. //

95 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:13:37pm

re: #90 Gus

In other news. Neil deGrasse Tyson is now the most famous atheist in America and possibly the world. :D

And he gets the derp flowing without trying. I liked a post on FB linking to this story about Tyson pushing back against CNN’s shitty science reporting and at least two wingnuts I know derped all over the place because of it. I was amused.

96 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:14:30pm

Oh, and the preacher character in Resurrection reminded me once again that Hollywood and American tv has a really hard time doing a realistic portrayal of religion in America.

97 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:14:41pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Rub-a-dub-dub three wingers in a tub.

98 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:16:56pm

Afternoon Lizardim from the warm and slushy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this fine spring day?

99 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:22:48pm

“Snowden should have his nuts cut off!”
— Edward Snowden in 2005

//

100 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:23:27pm

re: #86 Lidane

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MANLY MEN!

101 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:24:40pm

Uh Michelle do you even understand why RICO was written? God this woman is a joke. No wonder why she’s never even gotten a single bill signed into law if she thinks people who criticize the Kochs should be prosecuted.

102 sagehen  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:24:55pm

re: #90 Gus

In other news. Neil deGrasse Tyson is now the most famous atheist in America and possibly the world. :D

He doesn’t call himself an atheist, he says he’s agnostic. “How can you know? There’s no evidence, for or against.”

103 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:25:47pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Uh Michelle do you even understand why RICO was written? God this woman is a joke. No wonder why she’s never even gotten a single bill signed into law if she thinks people who criticize the Kochs should be prosecuted.

Uhhh, uhhh, uhhh… BENGHAZI!!!

Derp.

104 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:25:54pm

When GG & Snowden have some photos like these to show how they’ve fearlessly stood up for their convictions, then I’ll start taking them seriously.

John Lewis, Bloody Sunday, 1965

John Lewis & Jim Zwerg, Freedom Riders, after beating in 1961

Jim Zwerg recovering in hospital

Father & son, EuroMaidan

105 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:26:53pm

re: #100 Varek Raith

MANLY MEN!

Getty Image

106 sagehen  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:26:55pm

re: #93 freetoken

Since it whipped Cosmos ratings something fierce, I decided to watch the premier of Resurrection.

Discovered it is based on the popular book The Returned, and there is a French series already that covers this: The Returned.

I stick by my admittedly cynical view that Americans would much rather view religious/mystical/magickal stories than actual “science fiction”, and even much more so a science documentary (Cosmos), no matter how glitzy the documentary.

Watching Resurrection I was constantly reminded of The Dome - a story with unknown antagonists and forced social-commentary protagonists.

With no real ending.

I watched the French series (it was on Sundance Channel); subtitles and all.

Is there anyone here who’s seen both and can tell me how direct a copy the American one is?

107 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:29:11pm

re: #106 sagehen

I watched the French series (it was on Sundance Channel); subtitles and all.

Is there anyone here who’s seen both and can tell me how direct a copy the American one is?

Strictly speaking, the French TV show is based on a French movie, which just happens to be very similar to the book “The Returned”.

The new ABC series is explicitly a tv adaptation of the book “The Returned”.

It’s just that the ABC series and the French series are very, very close in premise and story.

No, I’ve not seen the French series; the above is a synopsis from the IMDB details.

108 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:29:34pm

Can one Tweet Getty images for personal use?

109 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:30:05pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Hmm, no, not at present. Would be a good idea to have a date filter. On the to-do list.

BTW-
Kudos for the Pages dashboard. Easily finding what I need with an easy search.

110 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:32:08pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

When GG & Snowden have some photos like these to show how they’ve fearlessly stood up for their convictions, then I’ll start taking them seriously.

John Lewis, Bloody Sunday, 1965

[Embedded image]John Lewis & Jim Zwerg, Freedom Riders, after beating in 1961

[Embedded image]Jim Zwerg recovering in hospital

[Embedded image]Father & son, EuroMaidan

Dudebro martyrdom consists of having to use dial-up.

111 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:32:20pm

re: #105 freetoken

MANLY M

soh gaii

112 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:32:26pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

When GG & Snowden have some photos like these to show how they’ve fearlessly stood up for their convictions, then I’ll start taking them seriously.

John Lewis, Bloody Sunday, 1965

[Embedded image]John Lewis & Jim Zwerg, Freedom Riders, after beating in 1961

[Embedded image]Jim Zwerg recovering in hospital

[Embedded image]Father & son, EuroMaidan

Yep.

113 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:32:44pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

Dudebro martyrdom consists of having to use dial-up.

Ha! Win.

114 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:34:10pm
115 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:35:18pm

re: #108 Gus

Yep, there’s a Twitter button. Let me test it….

116 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:35:28pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

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Well given that we see people defend the Crusades, I guess the Inquistion isn’t a bridge too far especially when you have Bill Donohue who is quite openly anti-semitic.

117 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:36:26pm

re: #108 Gus

Can one Tweet Getty images for personal use?

Yes but you have to use their tweet button, and the image is posted with a big watermark, unfortunately.

118 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:36:58pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:37:53pm

NEIL TYSON TOOK KOCH BROTHERS MONEYS!!!!! HURR HURR TEH HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!

120 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:38:01pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

When GG & Snowden have some photos like these to show how they’ve fearlessly stood up for their convictions, then I’ll start taking them seriously.

I don’t trust libertarians talking about freedom.

It always seem to come down to the freedom of those with purchasing power to do as they please. And if you don’t have the buy-in, you don’t get the same freedoms.

Hence why dudebros often end up in developing nations with strong oligarchies (and often a healthy dollop of racial division that coincidentally matches the shape of the oligarchy) while preaching about the liberties taken by the US and Europe.

121 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:39:12pm

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

NEIL TYSON TOOK KOCH BROTHERS MONEYS!!!!! HURR HURR TEH HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!

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The only people ruining America are the ones talking about ruining America. The rest of us are busy running America.

122 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:39:23pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

Dudebro martyrdom consists of having to use dial-up.

LOL, I was thinking more along the lines of a hangnail, maybe a paper cut… or woke up from a nightmare where POTUS sent killer drones and stubbed toe while running to the bathroom…

123 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:39:25pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Yes but you have to use their tweet button, and the image is posted with a big watermark, unfortunately.

What if I don’t? Does that mean I’ll get some massive law firm after me?

124 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:39:47pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Well given that we see people defend the Crusades, I guess the Inquistion isn’t a bridge too far especially when you have Bill Donohue who is quite openly anti-semitic.

Somebody will notice that part of the Inquisition was rooting out crypto-Muslims, and it will just all roll from there.

125 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:39:54pm

re: #120 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t trust libertarians talking about freedom.

It always seem to come down to the freedom of those with purchasing power to do as they please. And if you don’t have the buy-in, you don’t get the same freedoms.

Hence why dudebros often end up in developing nations with strong oligarchies (and often a healthy dollop of racial division that coincidentally matches the shape of the oligarchy) while preaching about the liberties taken by the US and Europe.

The trouble I have with libertarianism is it deals in absolutes. No desire to look at the big picture. A big premise of Von Mises style economics is to focus on theory at the expense of real life data. So ideology criticisms aside, I have a big problem with how they approach things in principle before I even look at ideology.

126 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:41:01pm

libertarians

can’t we just call them ‘over-simplifitarians’?

truth in advertising, what?

127 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:41:23pm

re: #124 The Ghost of a Flea

Somebody will notice that part of the Inquisition was rooting out crypto-Muslims, and it will just all roll from there.

Unfortunately quite true. Same deal with the Crusades defenders really.

128 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:41:32pm

re: #123 Gus

What if I don’t? Does that mean I’ll get some massive law firm after me?

You mean if you post your own copy of one of their images? All I can say is that Getty is known for being pretty aggressive about enforcing their copyrights.

129 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:41:59pm

Too many “libertarians” are conservatives who are too chicken shit to admit they’re right wing.

130 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:42:32pm

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

NEIL TYSON TOOK KOCH BROTHERS MONEYS!!!!! HURR HURR TEH HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!

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Lofuckingl.
All because one of the Koch’s donated to the Natural History Museum?
Good for him, I say.

131 A Mom Anon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:42:53pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

I regret I have only one upding to give, etc, etc.

132 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:42:56pm

re: #123 Gus

What if I don’t? Does that mean I’ll get some massive law firm after me?

If you use it for commercial purposes, you might, if you use it for non-commercial they probably won’t bother unless you do a bunch of them. But I still wouldn’t, what’s the point?

133 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:43:05pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

You mean if you post your own copy of one of their images? All I can say is that Getty is known for being pretty aggressive about enforcing their copyrights.

They’ll probably be even stricter now that they’re allowing free personal use.

134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:46:26pm

re: #105 freetoken

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Are they wearing ACTION PANTS! ???

135 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:46:43pm

re: #130 Varek Raith

Lofuckingl.
All because one of the Koch’s donated to the Natural History Museum?
Good for him, I say.

So if I understand the fallacy correctly, it’s a problem that the Koch brothers spend any money, not that the Koch brothers concealed their political expenditures by manufacturing a fake populist movement to achieve their entirely selfish policy goals?

136 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:47:33pm

Getty Image

An architectural model of the General Motors Pavilion, designed for the 1964/1965 New York World’s Fair in Flushing Meadows, New York City. Inside, the Futurama ride will take visitors on a tour of ‘the near-future’. (Photo by Archive Photos/Getty Images)

137 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:48:17pm

re: #131 A Mom Anon

I regret I have only one upding to give, etc, etc.

Thanks. Anyhow, here’s a good example of what I mean. The Virginia LP candidate here against Cuccinnelli and McAuliffe was actually close to what I’d consider a real libertarian. I mean dead wrong on the economy mind you but a staunch supporter of SSM, choice, etc. So what did the “libertarians” favorite former Congressman, Ron Paul do, oh Ron endorsed Ken Cuccinelli enthusiastically. Glenn Beck frigging calls himself a libertarian and he’s a so con whack-job. And the “libertarians” complained that Rob Sarvis emphaised his support for SSM too much.

138 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:48:32pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

They’ll probably be even stricter now that they’re allowing free personal use.

Kind of strange that embedding the images doesn’t display a watermark, but the image posted on Twitter does.

139 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:48:53pm
140 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:48:54pm
141 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:49:08pm

Most of PBS programming is sponsored by Koch or the Bradley foundation or some other wingnut org.

142 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:49:12pm

re: #140 Gus

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I shall call him, Mini Me.

143 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:49:40pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Life was so much easier when the America was in black and white…unless, of course, you were black.

144 blueraven  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:50:07pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

Bill Donohue comments on a segment from the first of a new 13-episode Fox series, “Cosmos,” which aired on March 9:

The ignorance is appalling. “The Catholic Church as an institution had almost nothing to do with [the Inquisition],” writes Dayton historian Thomas Madden. “One of the most enduring myths of the Inquisition,” he says, “is that it was a tool of oppression imposed on unwilling Europeans by a power-hungry Church. Nothing could be more wrong.” Because the Inquisition brought order and justice where there was none, it actually “saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule

wow

145 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:50:43pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Kind of strange that embedding the images doesn’t display a watermark, but the image posted on Twitter does.

Yeah, it is. Maybe because it’s easier to keep track of them on websites as opposed to Twitter? Just guessing at the logic…

146 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:50:55pm
147 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:50:58pm

And what the fuck was Snowden’s speech at SXSW all about anyway? That’s supposed to be a music festival. Fucker should be forced to sign autographs at gun shows next to George Zimmerman.

148 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:51:20pm

So Greenwald’s logic is Iraq means American policymakers can’t criticize the US for Ukraine. So has Glenn argued that Russian ones can’t criticize Iraq because of Ukraine? I mean Greenwald is such a self-righteous asshole. Yes, our country was wrong to invade Iraq in my opinion but that doesn’t mean any US criticism of Russian policy is thereby invalid. That’s the problem with Greenwald. He talks about how he values free speech and all but he wants to shut down anyone who dares to try to look at FP from a bigger picture.

149 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:52:07pm

re: #141 Amory Blaine

Most of PBS programming is sponsored by Koch or the Bradley foundation or some other wingnut org.

i predict that wingnut billionaires will complete their takeover of all media from ‘the liberals’ at about the same time that their propaganda machine convinces all americans that everything coming from the media is a lie

150 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:53:16pm

re: #144 blueraven

Right Bill because mass secularism was going to occur in sixteenth century Spain and murder in the name of religion is better than murder in the name of secularism. Bill would have been happy to bleed for Franco I bet in 1936, hell I bet he still would today. I’m finding myself more and more in agreement with our lizard WBL who makes the correct point of likening our religious fanatics to the Falange in the lead up to the Spanish Civil War.

151 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:54:22pm

My response to those that say Obama “owns this” or created this NSA program…

Fuck. You.

152 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:55:55pm

re: #151 Gus

My response to those that say Obama “owns this” or created this NSA program…

Fuck. You.

The people who want Obama’s blood most over the NSA program are the same people who condemned any criticism of it in the Bush years. Fuck them and good riddance. I’m all for having a reasonable discussion on this but the people who want to dishonestly blame Obama for the NSA program, existence of FISA, and even some of those who would have you think that Obama created the NSA.

153 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:56:46pm

Regarding the whereabouts of the mysterious Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, it looks like investigators are thinking some kind of accident as opposed to an act of terrorism:

Neither the Malaysian agency leading the investigation locally, Special Branch, nor spy agencies in the United States and Europe have ruled out the possibility that militants were involved in downing the aircraft, which suddenly disappeared while flying at 35,000 feet en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

However, Malaysian authorities have indicated that the evidence so far does not strongly back an attack as a cause and that mechanical or piloting problems could be explanations for the apparent crash, the U.S. sources said.

One U.S. source said that one of the main reasons Malaysian authorities were leaning away from the theory that the plane was attacked is because electronic evidence indicates it may have made a turn back towards Kuala Lumpur before it disappeared.

However, even that information has not been clearly confirmed, and investigators and intelligence sources say the fate of the plane is still shrouded in mystery.

“There is no evidence to suggest an act of terror,” said a European security source, who added that there was also “no explanation what’s happened to it or where it is.”

reuters.com

154 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:57:00pm

re: #151 Gus

My response to those that say Obama “owns this” or created this NSA program…

Fuck. You.

Don’t you remember when Congress was encased in carbonite?

And everybody on an intelligence committee was issued a mind-controlling brain slug so that they wouldn’t read any reports?

Definitely happened in 2009.

155 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:58:16pm

re: #154 The Ghost of a Flea

Don’t you remember when Congress was encased in carbonite?

And everybody on an intelligence committee was issued a mind-controlling brain slug so that they wouldn’t read any reports?

Definitely happened in 2009.

ALL HAIL THE HYPNOBAMA.

156 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:58:52pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

The people who want Obama’s blood most over the NSA program are the same people who condemned any criticism of it in the Bush years. Fuck them and good riddance. I’m all for having a reasonable discussion on this but the people who want to dishonestly blame Obama for the NSA program, existence of FISA, and even some of those who would have you think that Obama created the NSA.

two answers for this paradox from wingnuttia:

1) bush used it for good, obama uses it for eeeebil

2) bush was a ‘closet liberal’

notice that these two ‘explanations’ are mutually exclusive…

157 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:59:07pm

Thing is the minute the right regains control of the Oval Office, they’re going to want even more executive power especially if the Dems control Congress and then when the Dems regain the presidency, the right will cry because the Dem president will use the same executive powers that they wanted to give their president. The Republican Party made Bush one of the most strongest executives in recent history and yet flips it shit when Obama does the same things Bush did even on a smaller scale. Pretty much all the right’s outrage is based on who is in office not real principle differences.

158 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:59:19pm

re: #144 blueraven

Have you ever seen anyone defend the Inquisition before?

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

159 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:59:29pm
160 palmerskiss  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:00:45pm

ah michelle - we will miss you!

rightwingwatch.org

161 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:01:53pm

re: #160 palmerskiss

ah michelle - we will miss you!

rightwingwatch.org

Yeah bullying people to get treated the same under the law but not like those poor oppressed conservative Christians who just want the law to codify their bigotry into secular law.

162 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:01:55pm

re: #155 thedopefishlives

ALL HAIL THE HYPNOBAMA.

163 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:02:05pm

Have any of the NSA “abuses” uncovered even happened after Obama took office in 2009?

164 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:02:15pm

re: #162 Gus

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I love you.

165 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:02:45pm
166 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:02:47pm
As for Bruno, he was a renegade monk who dabbled in astronomy; he was not a scientist. There is much dispute about what really happened to him. As sociologist Rodney Strong puts it, he got into trouble not for his “scientific” views, but because of his “heretical theology involving the existence of an infinite number of worlds—a work based entirely on imagination and speculation.

Only one teeny tiny problem… we now know that the number of planets is so large that no one could ever count them all… and if it turns out the multiverse is true then there really is an infinite number of worlds.

167 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:04:52pm
168 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:05:12pm

Talk about some strange twisted thinking. Wow.

169 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:05:13pm

re: #162 Gus

What is thine bidding?

170 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:05:23pm
172 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:07:01pm

re: #167 Pie-onist Overlord

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Right, Carson is obviously a brilliant neurosurgeon but that doesn’t make him someone we should listen to on politics especially when he spouts off the shit he has but I am sure that makes me a “racist” to wingnuts as opposed to you know the actual racism that the wingnuts practice.

173 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:07:14pm
174 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:07:46pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

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We could just hold Snowden to his own standards and shoot him in the nuts.

175 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:08:20pm

Grapefruit Screwdrivers are Delicious!

176 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:09:11pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

I miss Fenty.

Seriously. This guy is a piece of work.

177 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:09:12pm

MLK: not a moral arbiter, as long as you’re a white dudebro.

178 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:10:08pm

re: #176 Varek Raith

Seriously. This guy is a piece of work.

He reminds me of Marion Berry in this whole I’m above the law crap he does.

179 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:10:13pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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His mask is slipping.

180 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:10:39pm

re: #177 jaunte

MLK: not a moral arbiter, as long as you’re a white dudebro.

MLK not a moral arbiter but Ed Snowden should win the Nobel Peace Prize and don’t you dare criticize him.

181 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:11:12pm

re: #166 freetoken

Only one teeny tiny problem… we now know that the number of planets is so large that no one could ever count them all… and if it turns out the multiverse is true then there really is an infinite number of worlds.

More likely they killed Bruno because he also dabbled in the Arian heresy, and rejected Aristotle…implicitly rejecting a lot of the arguments and assumptions upon which both doctrine and “natural law” derived.

Bruno was a complicated figure, from a time when being a wizard and being a scientist weren’t contradictory concepts. It’s really hard to say where his astrophysics and his metaphysics began and ended.

182 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:11:47pm

So Matt Barber is blaming CPAC drunks for the “Fuck Obama” outburst. Huh, Fuck Obama is kind compared to some of the stuff that Barber says about POTUS.

183 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:12:55pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Other parts of the site have fallen into disrepair. The NYS Pavillion, which is adjacent to the most recognizable part of the fair that remains - the towers (which were prominently featured in Men in Black), is crumbling.

It’s going to take a sizable amount of money to just keep them from falling down, but I think there’s an opportunity to restore them to their former grandeur and make them a tourist destination - with great views of Queens, Manhattan, and the surrounding parks, including the National Tennis Center (where they play the US Open, after they moved from nearby Forest Hills Tennis Center).

nydailynews.com

Oh, and a bit of interesting backstory about the Flushing Meadows site. Used to be swamp. Turned into a dump, which Robert Moses then turned into parks adjacent to his highways (Grand Central/Whitestone Expressway), and then used them for his Worlds Fairs - the later of the two never made money.

And current development plans have Willets Point, which is to the north (and next to Citifield) being transformed from junkyards and repair shops that are essentially off the grid into a retail/housing development.

184 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:17:03pm

Breaking. Glenn Beck has another plan.

185 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:18:32pm

re: #184 Gus

Breaking. Glenn Beck has another plan.

A plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox, isn’t that right, Baldrick Glenn Beck?

186 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:18:42pm

re: #184 Gus

Breaking. Glenn Beck has another plan.

I thought America was doomed or is that Glenn tomororw?

187 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:18:52pm
188 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:18:55pm

News out of Crimea…

189 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:19:37pm

re: #184 Gus

Breaking. Glenn Beck has another plan.

Buy this thing that I have a financial stake in.

For FREEDOM.

190 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:19:45pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I thought America was doomed or is that Glenn tomororw?

Welp. Today he wants to be Walt Disney. Allegedly.

191 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:19:53pm

re: #187 Gus

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Moderate ackbar!

192 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:20:19pm

re: #190 Gus

Welp. Today he wants to be Walt Disney. Allegedly.

Is this because of Frozen?

193 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:20:30pm

re: #187 Gus

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That was a great catch. I can’t even fathom what would have happened if it made it to its destination.

194 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:20:45pm
195 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:20:56pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

Buy this thing that I have a financial stake in.

For FREEDOM.

Buy my book, please. It’s different from my last book, I only cry 165 times versus 169 times.

196 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:21:06pm

Bibi’s Tweet is moving. Woosh.

197 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:23:34pm

re: #194 Gus

Oy vey. The rhetoric, it burns.

198 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:25:03pm
199 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:25:08pm

re: #197 thedopefishlives

Oy vey. The rhetoric, it burns.

Palestinians are dying in Syrian refugee camps and the anti-Israel fakers are silent.

200 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:25:32pm

re: #190 Gus

Welp. Today he wants to be Walt Disney. Allegedly.

Cartoon Disney?
Amusement Park Disney?
Or Cryogenically-preserved Jew-hating Disney?

201 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:25:44pm
202 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:26:10pm

re: #188 NJDhockeyfan

News out of Crimea…

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I’d be willing to bet that the ethnic Russians are basically hoping to intimidate pro-Kyiv residents into leaving Crimea for Ukraine proper.

Harass them, bully them; get them to “self-deport”, such as it were.

203 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:26:32pm

re: #183 lawhawk

into a retail/housing development.

capitalism will have been perfected when all sites in the united states that used to be dedicated to industrial production are turned into malls or housing developed populated by former industrial workers who become service workers who now make too low a wage to afford to shop in the malls or live in the housing

204 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:27:02pm

This guy who thinks MLK is no moral arbiter for anybody, and that Edward Snowden is a blank moral slate, had no objection when Glenn Greenwald co-opted MLK to praise Edward Snowden. Of course.

205 Official Lab Rat In Gay Radical Experiment  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:27:11pm

re: #190 Gus

You mean create an over the top fantasy world? Done!

206 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:27:53pm

re: #187 Gus

Good thing that shipment was caught. But if they caught one, who knows how many others got through?

207 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:27:54pm
208 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:28:35pm

re: #199 Gus

Palestinians are dying in Syrian refugee camps and the anti-Israel fakers are silent.

It’s amazing, the fantasy worlds some of these people come up with. I don’t understand how people could not understand the facts here without being willfully ignorant.

209 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:29:05pm

re: #181 The Ghost of a Flea

As Tyson pointed out, Bruno was not a scientist. He was, in our terminology, “cutting edge”.

Bruno was SXSW before there was SXSW.

Tyson points out also that Bruno’s ideas were just that. A guess. But a very good guess, as it turns out.

210 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:30:27pm
211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:31:06pm

re: #207 Gus

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Does this mean Beck won’t be coming to Kentucky for some tea party politicking in April?

212 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:31:40pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

The Clownocalypse is here.

213 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:32:32pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Honestly, Charles, that isn’t really true. I’d say 25% of the Dems who are condemning Snowden would have supported him had he leaked when a Republican was in the White House. The desire to stick it to the other party is very strong in American politics.

214 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:32:45pm
215 A Mom Anon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:32:55pm

re: #207 Gus

Walt Disney at least had imagination and talent on is side. Beck is a delusional grifter/addict. (also, someone should check his basement for bodies, but hey, that’s just me thinking out loud)

216 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:32:59pm

re: #184 Gus

Breaking. Glenn Beck has another plan.

He’s a Cylon?

217 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:33:07pm

Welp. Tyson sounds like an atheist to me. That’s all that counts since my view of the world is primary. Bwahahaha! Anyway, he’s also not Carl Sagan. People that want Tyson to be an exact replica of Sagan need to get their heads examined.

218 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:34:08pm

re: #207 Gus

he’s working on a number of movies, including the “real story of Christmas” and a film meant to “expose the truth” about Thomas Edison.

The secret truth of Christ and Edison:

They both want you to spend money on Glen Beck’s inferior-quality media, because affiliation trumps quality.

…and Judas betrayed Christ for Soros money.

219 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:34:43pm

“Down there between our legs, it’s like an entertainment complex in the middle of a sewage system. Who designed that?”

- Neil deGrasse Tyson

220 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:35:11pm

re: #207 Gus

Glenn Beck Is ‘Tired of Politics,’ Wants to Be More Like Walt Disney

Uhhh…Walt Disney is sorta dead.

221 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:35:38pm

re: #218 The Ghost of a Flea

Thomas Edison invented Christmas, like everything else we have.

222 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:35:54pm

While searching for “Glenn Beck” on Twitter I automatically typed out “Glenn Greenwald” instead. O.o

223 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:36:03pm

re: #217 Gus

Welp. Tyson sounds like an atheist to me. That’s all that counts since my view of the world is primary. Bwahahaha! Anyway, he’s also not Carl Sagan. People that want Tyson to be an exact replica of Sagan need to get their heads examined.

imgur.com

Perfect

224 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:36:17pm

re: #207 Gus

“expose the truth” about Thomas Edison

o fercrissakes what the hell could that possibly be about???

225 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:36:20pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Uhhh…Walt Disney is sorta dead.

Good point. So! Beck wants to be dead? //

226 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:36:23pm

re: #222 Gus

While searching for “Glenn Beck” on Twitter I automatically typed out “Glenn Greenwald” instead. O.o

Funny thing is, you typed Glenn Beck earlier and I read it as Glenn Greenwald. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOWALD.

227 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:36:45pm

re: #224 dog philosopher

o fercrissakes what the hell could that possibly be about???

It’s a Tesla thing.

228 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:36:50pm

Alternating Current…or PROGRESSIVE CURRENT?

229 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:38:46pm

re: #225 Gus

Good point. So! Beck wants to be dead? //

I’d have gone with Ralph Bakshi.

230 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:39:05pm

Check out the search results for “greenwald MLK.”

231 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:39:10pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

imgur.com

Perfect

This one is snappier.

“I want to put on the table, not why 85% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences reject God, I want to know why 15% of the National Academy don’t.”

― Neil deGrasse Tyson

232 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:39:39pm
233 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:39:50pm

re: #228 The Ghost of a Flea

Alternating Current…or PROGRESSIVE CURRENT?

DON’T CROSS THE STREAMS!

234 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:40:35pm

Look, just because I don’t believe in God doesn’t give you the right to call me an atheist!

//

235 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:40:41pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

The trouble I have with libertarianism is it deals in absolutes. No desire to look at the big picture. A big premise of Von Mises style economics is to focus on theory at the expense of real life data. So ideology criticisms aside, I have a big problem with how they approach things in principle before I even look at ideology.

I agree….Modern Libertarianism is merely Republicanism dressed in Libertarian drag.

Classical Libertarianism is itself an extremely rigid belief system where nothing but total adherence to its principles means it will not work. This is a Utopian outlook on governance where any negative consequences during Libertarian rule can be blamed on “we’re just not Libertarian enough. Time for MORE FREEDUMBS.”

There is no middle ground or maximization of outcomes in Libertariansm .. everything is absolute and geometric.

236 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:40:48pm

re: #227 thedopefishlives

It’s a Tesla thing.

So Beck needs electric shocks? That fits.

237 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:41:07pm
238 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:41:29pm

re: #234 Gus

Look, just because I don’t believe in God doesn’t give you the right to call me an atheist!

//

I understand why he does it.
I wish he didn’t have to but, I can respect that.

239 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:41:37pm

re: #232 Lidane

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Well let’s hope it ends like 1964 for them without the 1968 comeback. Their problem though is they think what worked in ‘64 and ‘80 will somehow work today. They think they can call every Dem they run against Jimmy Carter and liken themselves to Goldwater and Reagan while ignoring their own faults.

240 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:44:29pm
241 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:46:02pm

re: #237 Killgore Trout

Here’s an interesting idea: Israel open to joint missile defence with Jordan, Egypt

Jordan may agree to that, but Egypt never will. The Jew hate is just too strong there.

242 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:46:57pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

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Glenn Greenwald spews BS, Charles Johnson calls him on it.

243 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:47:22pm

re: #233 Political Atheist

DON’T CROSS THE STREAMS!

Ray, when someone asks you if you’re a god, you say “YES”!

244 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:47:26pm
When you want to be a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your mind concocts
Will come to you

If gold and fame are in your dream
No talk show guest is too extreme
When you wish upon a star
As paranoids do

The marks are kind
They bring to those who talk
The sweet fulfillment of
Those from Fox who do walk

Like a bolt out of the blue
Marketing steps in and sees you through
When you wish upon a star
Your delusions come true

245 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:47:47pm

re: #231 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

This one is snappier.

― Neil deGrasse Tyson

Aha! I still have this link from some time ago.

According to a survey of members of the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center in May and June this year, a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in God or a higher power, while 41% say they do not.

There are more available to ask than he might have thought.

246 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:48:57pm

re: #238 Varek Raith

I understand why he does it.
I wish he didn’t have to but, I can respect that.

Tyson is helping to open up a new and wider audience with billions and billions of years and Big Bang theories. That’s good enough for me.

247 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:49:12pm

re: #246 Gus

Tyson is helping to open up a new and wider audience with billions and billions of years and Big Bang theories. That’s good enough for me.

Yep.

248 Zirgar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:50:26pm

re: #71 Lidane

Yeah, it was a joke.

249 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:51:47pm

Enter promo code FREEDOM for free shipping!!

250 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:52:10pm

re: #245 Political Atheist

Aha! I still have this link from some time ago.

There are more available to ask than he might have thought.

Scientists and members of the academy are not the same group.

252 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:53:39pm

253 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:54:00pm

re: #227 thedopefishlives

It’s a Tesla thing.

but tesla ==> electric cars ==> communists!!!

254 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:54:14pm

re: #250 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

So that majority of scientists cited is not scientists or not a majority or just a different group of scientists?

255 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:54:22pm

256 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:55:07pm

The pitch for Ezra Klein’s new venture sounds interesting
Youtube Video
Sounds like they’re planning a long form in depth news analysis format. But the site seems mostly uninteresting stuff about Tony Hawk, Jullian Assange and Pro Wrestling.
voxmedia.com

Is this the right site?

257 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:55:20pm
258 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:56:25pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Jordan may agree to that, but Egypt never will. The Jew hate is just too strong there.

I don’t know about that. The Egyptian government is fed up with terrorism being imported from Gaza. These new missile shipments are a concern for everybody in the region.

259 blueraven  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:56:50pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Uhhh…Walt Disney is sorta dead.

Not sorta dead nor merely dead, he’s really most sincerely dead.

260 klys  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:57:43pm

re: #254 Political Atheist

So that majority of scientists cited is not scientists or not a majority or just a different group of scientists?

A substantially smaller subset.

The vast majority of scientists are not members of the National Academy of Science.

261 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:57:48pm

re: #254 Political Atheist

So that majority of scientists cited is not scientists or not a majority or just a different group of scientists?

Did you read your link? They polled the members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, a wide professional association. The National Academy of Sciences is a much more selective group of scientists.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

262 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:58:39pm

re: #258 Killgore Trout

If I understand the radar tech that goes with missile defense, you may as well work together. Whoever has the radar has a better grip on every moving metal object in your airspace than air traffic control does, or your air force does. It’s accurate and thorough surveillance 24/7.

263 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 3:58:54pm

re: #255 Gus

*compensated actor

264 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:00:19pm

re: #263 Amory Blaine

*overly compensated actor

265 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:01:22pm

re: #261 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The point is that there are plenty of scientists that believe in god or a higher power. The quote is “scientists” in the LAT article. Unless that is incorrect there may be more scientists to ask about their faith than what the 15% of a specific group may imply.

Besides faith is no reason to think less of the intelligence of a scientist or anyone else. So why is that number important anyway?

266 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:01:40pm

When does Vox launch?

Soon.

Could be interesting but I’m wary of the non partisan sales pitch. Might just be another marketing technique for more vapid BS passing off as news.

267 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:01:43pm


Oops.

268 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:02:02pm

re: #257 Gus

Here’s one from our family album: A maintenance crew in the hangar with their B-25s in the background. The man on the left is kinda important.

269 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:02:30pm

re: #267 Gus

The neo-cons are currently homeless. Their last refuge is on talking-head shows.

270 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:02:50pm

re: #267 Gus

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Oops.

But yet they’ll belittle Obama and Kerry for trying to resolve the crisis through diplomatic means. Shrugs.

271 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:02:57pm

Good grief.

272 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:03:05pm

re: #262 Political Atheist

If I understand the radar tech that goes with missile defense, you may as well work together. Whoever has the radar has a better grip on every moving metal object in your airspace than air traffic control does, or your air force does. It’s accurate and thorough surveillance 24/7.

It sounds like a good technical plan and I think the political environment might be right to make something like this happen.

273 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:03:20pm

re: #268 thedopefishlives

Here’s one from our family album: A maintenance crew in the hangar with their B-25s in the background. The man on the left is kinda important.

[Embedded image]

B-26 Marauder. :D

274 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:03:36pm

re: #273 Gus

B-26 Marauder. :D

Ah. Couldn’t remember if it was Mitchells or Marauders.

275 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:03:46pm

re: #269 freetoken

The neo-cons are currently homeless. Their last refuge is on talking-head shows.

Plus Bolton most assuredly will be nothing but a hiccup in the 2016 primaries. We’re seeing with the Republicans out of office, a return to a more Taftian worldview, one that frankly is as dangerous as the Neo-Con one.

276 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:03:49pm

re: #266 Killgore Trout

On my wish list

VOX

277 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:04:01pm

re: #268 thedopefishlives

Here’s one from our family album: A maintenance crew in the hangar with their B-25s in the background. The man on the left is kinda important.

[Embedded image]

Is that your pops?

278 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:04:23pm
the incremental leaks of this info in a responsible way

What fantasy is this?

279 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:04:38pm

Since we’re going old time… Glenn Miller:

MP3 Audio

280 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:04:39pm

re: #274 thedopefishlives

Ah. Couldn’t remember if it was Mitchells or Marauders.

Yeah, the Marauders have more of an egg shape. :D

281 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:04:53pm

re: #277 Gus

Is that your pops?

It’s my mother’s father, yeah. He died in 1990. This is the picture that my mom posted on Veteran’s Day last year.

282 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:05:14pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Good grief.

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Okay but why go to Russia? Snowden’s credibility should have been lost when he fled first to Hong Kong and later for asylum in Russia. It undermined any pretext of this being a sincerely concerned person.

283 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:05:17pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

But yet they’ll belittle Obama and Kerry for trying to resolve the crisis through diplomatic means. Shrugs.

Weird aye?

284 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:06:03pm

re: #283 Gus

Weird aye?

‘Tis but I’ve come to accept it and with that dinner time for me folks. You guys have a good night.

285 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:06:18pm

re: #281 thedopefishlives

It’s my mother’s father, yeah. He died in 1990. This is the picture that my mom posted on Veteran’s Day last year.

Yeah, he looks a little old already in that pic. Old I guess as in his late 20s or 30s.

286 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:06:48pm

The Russians have the stolen Snowden info, the Chinese most likely have it; you’d have to be a fool to believe it was being ‘responsibly, incrementally ’ leaked.

287 klys  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:06:54pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

There are days I regret having morals and a conscience, because people really are so bloody stupid and gullible.

288 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:06:55pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Good grief.

[Embedded content]

Snowden hasn’t “overseen” anything since he left Hawaii.

289 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:07:19pm

re: #265 Political Atheist

The point is that there are plenty of scientists that believe in god or a higher power.

That was Tyson’s point too.

The quote is “scientists” in the LAT article. Unless that is incorrect there may be more scientists to ask about their faith than what the 15% of a specific group may imply.

That 15% of the specific group doesn’t imply anything about scientists in general.

Besides faith is no reason to think less of the intelligence of a scientist or anyone else. So why is that number important anyway?

Because it trivially demonstrates you can believe in God and be a good scientist.

290 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:07:30pm

re: #267 Gus

CNN Poll: 59% approve of sanctions against Russia

Americans not overly concerned

Philosophically, Americans are not eager to get involved in foreign conflicts. Only 28% questioned in the poll say that the country’s top priority should be making sure that there is peace and stability throughout the world. Nearly seven in ten say the U.S. should emphasize safety and security right here at home.

According to the poll, 42% say they’re somewhat concerned about the crisis in Ukraine, but only three in ten say they’re very concerned.

“That’s roughly the same level of concern that Americans expressed about conflicts in Libya and Syria in past polls,” said Holland.

291 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:07:49pm

re: #285 Gus

Yeah, he looks a little old already in that pic. Old I guess as in his late 20s or 30s.

Mid to late 20’s. He died from pancreatic cancer. One of the reasons I’m a big cancer hater.

292 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:08:52pm
293 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:10:06pm

re: #200 The Ghost of a Flea

Cartoon Disney?
Amusement Park Disney?
Or Cryogenically-preserved Jew-hating Disney?

Methinks he wants to create Lieberal Land where he can show all the gold and ammo hoarding true patriots what he’s been trying to warn them about.

Like his walled city of Beckburg, it will all come to nothing.

294 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:12:55pm
295 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:13:09pm

re: #255 Gus

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Heirloom e-mails

296 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:15:28pm
297 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:16:00pm
In the five days I spent with Greenwald, he revealed himself to be buoyant, chummy, emotional, and a total charmer. It also became clear that the greatest engine driving his work is not a dogged commitment to abstract ideals but the tender relationships he builds with the few who are very close to him, be it Miranda, Snowden, a disembodied screen name on an Internet message board, or the flock of half-blind sclerotic mutts he shepherds.
298 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:16:26pm

re: #251 Varek Raith

Fox Contributor Angela McGlowan Tries To Link Missing Malaysian Airliner To Obama Foreign Policy
Okely dokely, kookarino.

Ooh, my prediction is starting to come true. Come on Angela, see the Big Picture. Talk to the birthers, they’ll tell you what Obama is capable of.

Hell, just last month he arranged for an incredibly complex series of events to kill Loretta Fuddy before she admitted her involvement in the birth certificate forgery. Open your eyes, woman. You’re on Fox, for God’s sake.

299 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:19:46pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

scary good!

300 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:20:04pm

The Intercept: God Greenwald

301 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:20:12pm

re: #297 Charles Johnson

the flock of half-blind sclerotic mutts he shepherds

That’s a heckuva way to talk about your coworkers.

302 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:24:30pm

I need new sneakers

I hate going sneaker shopping!

303 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:25:50pm

Two more journalists are missing in Crimea.

304 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:26:25pm

Watch out, GOP. There’s a new Top Gun gunning for the 2016 Pres nomination.

“REVOLUTION KESSLER 2016 “

first thing, need to get on all 50 state ballots! raise a ton of cash, & FIND THE BEST campaign manager! if a man with several different names, several different social security numbers, who is pals with the most anti american politicians, hate groups( Weather underground ) on this planet can become an AMERICAN president ! well Ill give it my best shot! but we all need to spread the word! lets take back our house, our country and lets put one of our own in this time!

KESSLER 2016

305 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:30:30pm

So yesterday at work I was tasked with installing a refurbished transmitter we have (bought from the manufacturer)

Put it in an equipment rack, wired and cabled it up (takes about 45 minutes) and started to test it. NADA

Took it back out of the rack, over to the test bench.,,,,, NADA

Opened it up and started tracing components, testing them one at a time All looked fine.

I’ve now spent almost 3 hours on this

So I call the manufacturers (24/7) help desk. ID myself and give them the units serial number

Tech says to me “Oh ,,, we were supposed to contact you that that unit was recalled. Could you please box it up and ship it back to us and we’ll either credit your acct or send you a replacement”

Thanks a lot, Sparky!!

306 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:31:35pm

Haven’t decided whether to start reading The Intercept and submit myself to The Greenwald or join the Church of Scientology.

307 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:32:18pm
308 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:32:51pm

re: #306 Gus

Haven’t decided whether to start reading The Intercept and submit myself to The Greenwald or join the Church of Scientology.

Why not just take a pair of scissors and jab yourself in the temple!

Kinda get the same result!!!!

/

309 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:33:47pm

re: #306 Gus

Haven’t decided whether to start reading The Intercept and submit myself to The Greenwald or join the Church of Scientology.

Hypnowald vs. Hubbard. Sounds like the tagline to a really bad SyFy movie.

310 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:34:03pm

re: #308 sattv4u2

Why not just take a pair of scissors and jab yourself in the temple!

Kinda get the same result!!!!

/

Good idea!

311 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:35:02pm

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzot!!

BLAM!

POOF!

[Sizzling bacon sound.]

312 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:35:22pm
313 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:37:26pm

re: #305 sattv4u2

So yesterday at work I was tasked with installing a refurbished transmitter we have (bought from the manufacturer)

Put it in an equipment rack, wired and cabled it up (takes about 45 minutes) and started to test it. NADA

Took it back out of the rack, over to the test bench.,,,,, NADA

Opened it up and started tracing components, testing them one at a time All looked fine.

I’ve now spent almost 3 hours on this

So I call the manufacturers (24/7) help desk. ID myself and give them the units serial number

Tech says to me “Oh ,,, >we were supposed to contact you that that unit was recalled. Could you please box it up and ship it back to us and we’ll either credit your acct or send you a replacement”

Thanks a lot, Sparky!!

A few years ago my cell phone company was Sprint. Because I lived in the mountains I barely got a signal at home. I called Sprint and let them know and they said no problem, they said they were sending me something to hook up to the computer that will strengthen the signal to the house. When it arrived I opened the box and hooked it up right away. I wouldn’t work. I tried everything, nothing working. I called Sprint and they said “That thing doesn’t work where you live. Send it back please.”

314 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:40:41pm

re: #310 Gus

Good idea!

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Come on over. I’ll hook you up to our 900 KVA generator!!

315 Majacita  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:42:30pm

If Glenn Beck wants to be more like Disney and Disney was taken over by Satan….then does that make Glenn Beck a wanna be Satan?

316 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:43:07pm

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

heh

I have on of those extenders from Verizon. They wanted to charge me $200 for it (they sell them in their stores for that)

Once I explained to them that I wasn’t going to give them $200 to make something work that I already pay for (monthly service) for the past 12 years they gave me one for free

317 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:44:52pm

re: #289 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That was Tyson’s point too.

That 15% of the specific group doesn’t imply anything about scientists in general.

Because it trivially demonstrates you can believe in God and be a good scientist.

I don’t see the triviality or where it would apply. The article did specifically say “scientists” so I’m not sure where we disagree if at all.

What makes however many credentialed scientists have faith any more important than their lifestyle choices or politics? Or fashion?

Are we not catering to a false connection anyway just by entertaining the stats of scientists and faith? Good for show ratings or interest maybe but really a “meh” connection.

318 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:45:27pm

re: #316 sattv4u2

heh

I have on of those extenders from Verizon. They wanted to charge me $200 for it (they sell them in their stores for that)

Once I explained to them that I wasn’t going to give them $200 to make something work that I already pay for (monthly service) for the past 12 years they gave me one for free

Sprint sent that one to me free. They charge $5.00/mo for the service which they also gave to me free. Too bad it didn’t work. Now that I’m in Tennessee I’m not having any problems.

319 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:45:45pm
320 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:46:41pm
321 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:47:03pm
322 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:48:05pm

ICYMI

323 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:49:54pm

re: #321 darthstar

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Thats why I always try to fly SouthWest Air

1st bag is free!!!
//

324 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:50:48pm

I don’t worry about amps much. If I see anything over 9 volts I just don’t touch the damn thing let alone 12 volts or 20,000 volts.

325 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:50:55pm

re: #317 Political Atheist

I don’t see the triviality or where it would apply. The article did specifically say “scientists” so I’m not sure where we disagree if at all.

You’d have to tell me if we disagree, I still can’t understand your point.

15% of some of the most prestigious scientists in the world believe in God. Ergo, believing in god and being a kick-ass scientist are not inconsistent.

What makes however many credentialed scientists have faith any more important than their lifestyle choices or politics? Or fashion?

Not really sure what this is supposed to mean, again. The point, in context, is that believing in God doesn’t invalidate you as a scientist.

Are we not catering to a false connection anyway just by entertaining the stats of scientists and faith? Good for show ratings or interest maybe but really a “meh” connection.

Again, no clue what you mean by this. Do you get that Tyson’s point was that faith isn’t incompatible with being a good scientist, or not?

326 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:51:33pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Good grief.

[Embedded content]

Yeah well, he’s not overseeing the incremental leaks of his info in a responsible way from the Russian Federation either.

327 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:51:45pm

re: #324 Gus

I don’t worry about amps much. If I see anything over 9 volts I just don’t touch the damn thing let alone 12 volts or 20,000 volts.

I’ve been bitten by some high-voltage ignition systems. 20,000 volts will lay you on your backside in a real hurry.

328 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:51:54pm

re: #324 Gus

I don’t worry about amps much. If I see anything over 9 volts I just don’t touch the damn thing let alone 12 volts or 20,000 volts.

To this day, I still “test” a 9 V battery by putting the contacts on my tongue!!!

329 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:51:56pm

re: #324 Gus

I don’t worry about amps much. If I see anything over 9 volts I just don’t touch the damn thing let alone 12 volts or 20,000 volts.

It’s the amps that kill.

330 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:52:23pm

re: #325 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Do you get that Tyson’s point was that faith isn’t incompatible with being a good scientist, or not?

Yes.

331 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:52:53pm

re: #328 sattv4u2

To this day, I still “test” a 9 V battery by putting the contacts on my tongue!!!

Now we know how you became who you are.

332 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:53:23pm

re: #331 b_sharp

Now we know how you became who you are.

You should see my hairdo!!

333 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:53:51pm

re: #328 sattv4u2

To this day, I still “test” a 9 V battery by putting the contacts on my tongue!!!

Also a childhood sport from a certain era.

334 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:54:27pm

re: #296 Charles Johnson

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Holy fucking crap:

His small, fleshy hands flutter over the keyboard. Who knows what business is afoot inside his browser.

I could not read any further. WTFITS.

335 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:54:42pm
336 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:55:22pm

re: #329 b_sharp

It’s the amps that kill.

Heh…that’s what I tweeted to Gus.

337 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:56:17pm

re: #327 thedopefishlives

That being said, I’ve been much more concerned by sparking 12-volt batteries because the amperage is so much higher. I still get a little twitchy when unhooking my car’s batteries.

338 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:58:48pm

re: #297 Charles Johnson

If that doesn’t read like a job application, nothing does.

339 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:58:50pm

re: #337 thedopefishlives

That being said, I’ve been much more concerned by sparking 12-volt batteries because the amperage is so much higher. I still get a little twitchy when unhooking my car’s batteries.

Yup

Got bit by one of those myself once!

As a lesson to my son when he was maybe 12, I hooked up jumper cables to a car battery and contacted the other ends with each other. He was impressed with the sparks show, and also understood!!

340 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:59:52pm
341 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:00:05pm

re: #330 Political Atheist

Yes.

Then what are you arguing about?

342 thedopefishlives  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:00:18pm

re: #339 sattv4u2

Yup

Got bit by one of those myself once!

As a lesson to my son when he was maybe 12, I hooked up jumper cables to a car battery and contacted the other ends with each other. He was impressed with the sparks show, and also understood!!

The one that got me the worst was actually unhooking a starter. I was dumb and didn’t disconnect the battery. Laying underneath one of my dad’s tractors, I unbolted the cover to the starter motor housing and got a nasty shock. Jumped right out from under there and promptly unhooked the battery before continuing.

343 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:00:49pm

Coming up next. How you’ll die of heart attack first before slamming onto the sidewalk after jumping off the Empire State Building.

344 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:01:15pm

re: #342 thedopefishlives

The one that got me the worst was actually unhooking a starter. I was dumb and didn’t disconnect the battery. Laying underneath one of my dad’s tractors, I unbolted the cover to the starter motor housing and got a nasty shock. Jumped right out from under there and promptly unhooked the battery before continuing.

youch

345 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:01:57pm

re: #343 Gus

Coming up next. How you’ll die of heart attack first before slamming onto the sidewalk after jumping of the Empire State Building.

It’s not the fall that kills you
It’s the sudden stop!!

346 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:02:10pm

I’d rather get blown to smithereens by a 500 pound bomb!

Well, actually, you’ll probably die from the concussion first.

//

347 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:02:36pm

re: #343 Gus

Coming up next. How you’ll die of heart attack first before slamming onto the sidewalk after jumping off the Empire State Building.

I can’t hear you over the sound of eating pop rocks and a coke.

348 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:03:09pm

re: #345 sattv4u2

It’s not the fall that kills you
It’s the sudden stop!!

Fact: God spends six days a week welcoming new arrivals with the same line. “You stupid fucker.”

349 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:03:37pm

New antiaircraft weapons arrived for rebels in Syria
Liveleak Video

350 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:04:13pm

re: #347 Killgore Trout

I can’t hear you over the sound of eating pop rocks and a coke.

Try swallowing a Mento and a swig of diet coke. (wait…don’t…unless you’re at a family dinner and everyone is arguing)

351 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:04:14pm

re: #348 darthstar

Fact: God spends six days a week welcoming new arrivals with the same line. “You stupid fucker.”

Last thing those people said

“Hold my beer, I think I can do this”

352 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:04:26pm

re: #347 Killgore Trout

I can’t hear you over the sound of eating pop rocks and a coke.

Chugging down a box of baking soda and vinegar as we speak.

353 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:06:21pm

re: #349 Killgore Trout

New antiaircraft weapons arrived for rebels in Syria
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Where are the diesel powered sling shots?

354 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:06:59pm

Apparently the future of journalism involves some asshole.

355 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:07:23pm

re: #354 Gus

Apparently the future of journalism involves some asshole.

356 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:07:29pm

re: #353 sattv4u2

Where are the diesel powered sling shots?

They used them all up kidnapping nuns.

357 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:08:25pm

re: #356 Killgore Trout

They used them all up kidnapping nuns.

Well, if they were flying nuns, the rebels were all set to shoot THEM down!!!

358 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:08:41pm
359 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:10:59pm

I’d live in Sweden!
But Canada is closer.

360 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:11:52pm
361 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:12:34pm

I like how “Russia” is just kind of stuck all the way over there on the right edge with no other text about it. Yep, that sums it up.

362 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:13:00pm

Glenn Beck Is ‘Tired of Politics,’ Wants to Be More Like Walt DisneyGood career move. I think that could work for him.

363 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:13:59pm

re: #362 Killgore Trout

Glenn Beck Is ‘Tired of Politics,’ Wants to Be More Like Walt DisneyGood career move. I think that could work for him.

I can only imagine the carnival rides he’d create!!

364 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:16:17pm

re: #363 sattv4u2

I can only imagine the carnival rides he’d create!!

Mr. Birch’s Wild Ride

365 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:16:58pm

re: #364 Killgore Trout

Mr. Birch’s Wild Ride

The Flume Of Tears !

366 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:19:06pm

Gun lunatics showing once again that they have zero class.

Italian cultural officials have threatened court action to stop an American arms manufacturer showing the revered Renaissance statue of Michelangelo’s David holding a rifle in its advertising campaign.

huffingtonpost.com

367 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:19:22pm

re: #339 sattv4u2

Yup

Got bit by one of those myself once!

As a lesson to my son when he was maybe 12, I hooked up jumper cables to a car battery and contacted the other ends with each other. He was impressed with the sparks show, and also understood!!

I still have a small set of perfectly round scars about 1/16th inch in diameter across the heel of my hand. I used to keep my combination wrenches together and organized in my toolbox with a length of heavy brass bead chain (same as you have on an old pull light, just a heavier gauge).

Checking my oil, I noticed that my battery terminal was just a bit loose, so figured while I had the hood open to take care it right then. Seemed like too much work to get the 1/2 inch or whatever I needed off the chain, so I just started to tighten up the terminal with all 11 wrenches hooked together. Needless to say, one of them managed to find a ground and then next thing I knew that chain was almost glowing as the wrenches and I parted company.

Learned my lesson on that one.

Went for a bike ride this evening after work, just an easy no-sweat soft pedal and enjoy the evening one. Here’s the obligatory “shadow rider” picture. Steve and his Shadow

RBS

368 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:22:39pm

re: #367 RealityBasedSteve

youch

369 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:22:42pm

re: #366 Skip Intro

Gun lunatics showing once again that they have zero class.

[Embedded image]

huffingtonpost.com

Hope it’s not loaded. A certain part of his sculpted anatomy is pretty close to the trigger.

370 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:23:12pm

re: #369 Eventual Carrion

Hope it’s not loaded. A certain part of his sculpted anatomy is pretty close to the trigger.

What do you think he’s using to turn the safety off!!
/

371 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:25:05pm

re: #369 Eventual Carrion

Hope it’s not loaded. A certain part of his sculpted anatomy is pretty close to the trigger.

“This is my Weapon… This is my Gun…. ” And I’m too polite to complete the rest for you.

RBS

372 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:26:59pm

Well, got my new (to me) car sitting up in its parking spot. It will do well for local hops. Looks a lot better than my 97 (poor thing). Just got a 2002 to replace the 1997 Saturn, basically the same car, except this one is a single overhead cam and my old one was a double. The check engine light is on and he said that’s because a code comes up on #4 cyl and it just makes it look as though there’s problems w/it. It drives pretty well, although the steering wheel wants to shake a little at 50+ (could be the tires, which I didn’t inspect all that well). At any rate, I can get it inspected w/no problem. Everything else, tires, brakes, etc. are hunky dory. I do have to get a radio and he’s going to put it in for me free (he’s a friend of my son). Such a nice guy, even took me to the DMV to get my 10 day permit so I could drive it home.

Haha, it came with a small skull on the gear shift. : )

373 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:27:08pm

i am getting some very funky lgf page displays (firefox for Win 7) where the text of the last few posts overwrites the comment entering text box area

374 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:27:42pm

Dana Milbank opines:

Democrats’ climate-change filibuster is nothing but a lot of hot air

I can’t really get down on him though - this was pretty much just an exercise for show.

375 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:28:05pm

re: #373 dog philosopher

i am getting some very funky lgf page displays (firefox for Win 7) where the text of the last few posts overwrites the comment entering text box area

p.s. can’t give you good QA for this just yet as i’m not sure how to reproduce it…

376 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:28:13pm

re: #360 Charles Johnson

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This cracked me up.

377 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:28:42pm

re: #372 Justanotherhuman

the 1997 Saturn

I have one of those

An SL 2

378 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:29:06pm

re: #375 dog philosopher

p.s. can’t give you good QA for this just yet as i’m not sure how to reproduce it…

urk!

shows up after clicking New Comments

379 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:29:24pm

re: #371 RealityBasedSteve

“This is my Weapon… This is my Gun…. ” And I’m too polite to complete the rest for you.

RBS

Well, I’m not.

I understand that this was part of the untelevised closing ceremonies at CPAC.

Youtube Video

380 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:29:46pm

Dudecoins

381 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:31:00pm

re: #377 sattv4u2

the 1997 Saturn

I have one of those

An SL 2

Great little car; have almost 300K on it. Giving it to my 17 yr old neighbor, so he can learn some mechanics. : )

382 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:31:08pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

Well, I’m not.

I understand that this was part of the untelevised closing ceremonies at CPAC.

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I didn’t realize that there was a g-rated version of it.

RBS

383 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:32:25pm

re: #381 Justanotherhuman

Great little car; have almost 300K on it. Giving it to my 17 yr old neighbor, so he can learn some mechanics. : )

Yeah. You can putter around the engine pretty easily w/o messing too much up
Easy access

384 palomino  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:32:27pm

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d live in Sweden!
But Canada is closer.

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People who post that kind of shit are oblivious to the fact that we already DO live in a country with a lot of socialism. It’s called a “mixed economy” and all Western nations have it. The ratio of public sector/private sector is tilted more towards the private here than in Sweden, but both countries have a mixture of socialism and capitalism. And most Americans want that, whether they know it or not.

So what we’re really talking about is the proper mixture of public and private sectors allocation. Which is why debate is impossible with absolutists like Bachmann and the CPAC crowd. They’ve taken the black and white position of private = good, public = bad, so there’s no room left for realistic pragmatic discourse on the topic. There’s only room left for theatrics (Cruz, et al.) and hysteria (Cruz, Palin, and pretty much everyone else in the TP).

385 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:34:05pm

re: #384 palomino

People who post that kind of shit are oblivious to the fact that we already DO live in a country with a lot of socialism. It’s called a “mixed economy” and all Western nations have it. The ratio of public sector/private sector is tilted more towards the private here than in Sweden, but both countries have a mixture of socialism and capitalism. And most Americans want that, whether they know it or not.

So what we’re really talking about is the proper mixture of public and private sectors allocation. Which is why debate is impossible with absolutists like Bachmann and the CPAC crowd. They’ve taken the black and white position of private = good, public = bad, so there’s no room left for realistic pragmatic discourse on the topic. There’s only room left for theatrics (Cruz, et al.) and hysteria (Cruz, Palin, and pretty much everyone else in the TP).

wingnuts have redefined the word ‘socialism’ so that it now fits any government ever practiced by humans

386 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:35:31pm
387 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:36:21pm

re: #386 Gus

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Well,, there are two in the front row without facial hair !!!!

388 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:36:21pm

It must have been one ferocious feline:

House cat in Oregon attacks baby, traps family in bedroom

A rampaging, 22-pound Oregon house cat with a “history of violence” attacked a baby and trapped a family and their dog in a bedroom at their Portland home before being captured by police, authorities said on Monday.

The Sunday evening incident began when the cat, a black-and-white Himalayan, scratched a 7-month-old baby in the face, according to Portland Police Bureau spokesman Sergeant Pete Simpson.

The baby’s father kicked the cat in the backside, which sent it into a rage, and the parents and baby, along with their dog, retreated into a bedroom as the father called police, Simpson said.

[…]

The dog must be quite the wuss…

389 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:36:54pm

More of that SXSW diversity.

Getty Image

390 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:37:54pm

re: #366 Skip Intro

Gun lunatics showing once again that they have zero class.

[Embedded image]

huffingtonpost.com

Yes, the David is much more conducive to selling poppers.

It’s a statue, compared to all the other patently insensitive shit the NRA and gun industry pull this is a really vanilla, nothing burger of a thing to find offense in.

391 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:38:26pm

re: #389 Gus

More of that SXSW diversity.

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Is that Waldo in the front row??? (two of them, for that matter!!))

392 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:39:15pm
393 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:40:09pm

Man, that’s a really diverse audience.

394 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:40:24pm

re: #393 Gus

Future Paulbots.

395 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:40:26pm

Wait! I see one black guy!

396 freetoken  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:41:26pm
397 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:42:05pm

re: #384 palomino

People who post that kind of shit are oblivious to the fact that we already DO live in a country with a lot of socialism. It’s called a “mixed economy” and all Western nations have it. The ratio of public sector/private sector is tilted more towards the private here than in Sweden, but both countries have a mixture of socialism and capitalism. And most Americans want that, whether they know it or not.

So what we’re really talking about is the proper mixture of public and private sectors allocation. Which is why debate is impossible with absolutists like Bachmann and the CPAC crowd. They’ve taken the black and white position of private = good, public = bad, so there’s no room left for realistic pragmatic discourse on the topic. There’s only room left for theatrics (Cruz, et al.) and hysteria (Cruz, Palin, and pretty much everyone else in the TP).

“Socialism” “Communism” “Nazism” “liberalism” are all words that wingnuts use interchangeably and mean HURR HURR SOMEBODY SAID FACTS AT ME!!!!!!

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:42:46pm

re: #395 Gus

Wait! I see one black guy!

Forget it…he’s wearing a red shirt and we know what always happens to those guys before the Star Trek episode finishes…

399 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:42:54pm
400 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:43:35pm

401 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:44:44pm

re: #393 Gus

Man, that’s a really diverse audience.

What

I see people with black hair,,,, blondes,,,,, brunettes,, even GREEN hair !!!

402 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:47:12pm

re: #401 sattv4u2

What

I see people with black hair,,,, blondes,,,,, brunettes,, even GREEN hair !!!

yea, but I bet she’s not a natural greenhead.

RBS

403 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:47:22pm

re: #386 Gus

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Except for the beards, it looks like CPAC 2014.

404 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:50:06pm

According to Pavlo Rizanenko, a member of the Ukrainian parliament, Ukraine may have made a mistake in going nuke-free.

Ukraine may have to arm itself with nuclear weapons if the United States and other world powers refuse to enforce a security pact that obligates them to reverse the Moscow-backed takeover of Crimea, a member of the Ukraine parliament told USA TODAY.

The United States, Great Britain and Russia agreed in a pact “to assure Ukraine’s territorial integrity” in return for Ukraine giving up a nuclear arsenal it inherited from the Soviet Union after declaring independence in 1991, said Pavlo Rizanenko, a member of the Ukrainian parliament.

“We gave up nuclear weapons because of this agreement,” said Rizanenko, a member of the Udar Party headed by Vitali Klitschko, a candidate for president. “Now there’s a strong sentiment in Ukraine that we made a big mistake.”

Granted, he’s speaking for himself, but a nuclear-armed Ukraine could certainly make things rather dicey in that part of Europe. There are currently four nuclear power plants in Ukraine; three of them are in the western part of the country, so Ukraine going nuclear-armed isn’t outside the realm of possibility. They have the know-how, after all.

usatoday.com

405 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:52:29pm

re: #393 Gus

Man, that’s a really diverse audience.

To be fair, Snowden IS King Dudebro so he’s going to have an overwhelmingly white audience.

Also, it seems like most folks were in line for Jimmy Kimmel:


Bill Cosby too:

406 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:52:56pm

re: #404 Dr Lizardo

According to Pavlo Rizanenko, a member of the Ukrainian parliament, Ukraine may have made a mistake in going nuke-free.

Granted, he’s speaking for himself, but a nuclear-armed Ukraine could certainly make things rather dicey in that part of Europe. There are currently four nuclear power plants in Ukraine; three of them are in the western part of the country, so Ukraine going nuclear-armed isn’t outside the realm of possibility. They have the know-how, after all.

usatoday.com

Who, what country, would trust Russia after this debacle? Not one iota.

407 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:54:49pm

Gluten free CPAC.

408 dog philosopher  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:55:12pm

dude bro
White suburban males, usually 16-25 years of age, hailing from anywhere, USA. Characterized by their love of College football, pickup trucks/SUVs, beer,cut off khaki cargo shorts, light pink polo brand shirts (with collar “popped”), abercrombie & fitch, hollister gear, and trucker hats. Favorite bands include, but are not limited to, O.A.R., Jack Johnson, Dave Matthews Band, Avengened Sevenfold, The Fray, and often crappy radio rap (i.e. Nelly, Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L, etc.). Dude bro’s are incredibly insecure in their manhood, which makes them: insanely jealous of their girl friends, overly macho, and laughably homophobic. currently, there is no cure for being a dude bro.

why U allz say DUDEBRO whan U meanz MOONBAT???

why??

409 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:56:17pm

Factcheck dot org: Pipeline Primer

The Keystone XL project: We examine the facts about jobs, spills, climate change and gasoline prices.

410 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:56:21pm

re: #388 freetoken

It must have been one ferocious feline:

House cat in Oregon attacks baby, traps family in bedroom

The dog must be quite the wuss…

This news story has a picture of the cat:

katu.com

411 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:56:31pm
412 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:57:50pm

re: #341 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

My point was simply that *maybe more than that 15% have faith. “Maybe more than Neil thinks” is what I said. I have no argument at all.

*With a link.

413 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:57:58pm

re: #406 Justanotherhuman

Who, what country, would trust Russia after this debacle? Not one iota.

Precisely; the Baltic States are getting increasingly nervous themselves as they have large ethnic Russian minorities. Yes, they’re NATO member-states, but they’re still jittery about Putin’s gambit in Ukraine, and uncertain as to what longer term machinations he may have in mind.

414 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 5:59:15pm

Totally badass vintage music break…

1974 vintage King Crimson (Fripp/Wetton/Cross/Bruford), kicking ass and taking names on French TV.

Youtube Video

415 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:00:32pm

416 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:01:14pm

re: #414 makeitstop

Totally badass vintage music break…

1974 vintage King Crimson (Fripp/Wetton/Cross/Bruford), kicking ass and taking names on French TV.

[Embedded content]

Crimson really held up well over time.

417 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:02:26pm

re: #412 Political Atheist

My point was simply that *maybe more than that 15% have faith.

15% of who? The 15% of the National Academy is the real number for the Academy.

“Maybe more than Neil thinks” is what I said.

This doesn’t make any sense. Tyson was talking about the percentage of the academy. He wasn’t claiming that was the percentage of all scientists, and I have no clue why you’re acting as though he did. Meanwhile, you seemed to have really missed at first that he was not saying anything negative about religion.

418 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:02:52pm

re: #386 Gus

Neckbeards!

419 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:04:09pm

re: #416 Killgore Trout

Crimson really held up well over time.

That lineup was one of the best. I saw them on that tour and they were a machine. Fripp looks like he was on a mission in that video.

420 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:06:45pm

re: #415 Gus

I don’t know why they like ripping off Dr. Seuss so much. Maybe because the words are short.

421 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:08:36pm

re: #417 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I made a fairly informal point, had a link to show where I might have gotten the thought. It’s not a complicated or subtle point. I don’t really see the importance of the distinction you make as contravening my statement at all. There was that “maybe” caveat after all.

This seems to be applying a far more formal standard to a rather casual point than seems appropriate. You may think it makes no sense. Perhaps my point makes sense to most.

422 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:16:10pm

re: #421 Political Atheist

I made a fairly informal point, had a link to show where I might have gotten the thought. It’s not a complicated or subtle point.

You didn’t make any point that I can tell that had anything to do with what Tyson said, since Tyson wasn’t attempting to talk about the amount of religiosity among all scientists, but among the Academy.

I don’t really see the importance of the distinction you make as contravening my statement at all. There was that “maybe” caveat after all.

No clue what distinction you’re talking about, or what statement of yours you’re talking about, for that matter.

This seems to be applying a far more formal standard to a rather casual point than seems appropriate. You may think it makes no sense. Perhaps my point makes sense to most.

WHat you said was this:

There are more available to ask than he might have thought.

There are not more than 15% of those with faith in the Academy, which is what he was talking about. He wasn’t talking about the broader scientific population. You’re wrong, if you’re talking about what he was talking about. If you weren’t talking about the Academy, then you weren’t talking about what he was talking about.

You really seemed to grab the wrong end of this conversation and think that somehow I, or Tyson was implying that faith interfered with science, when that wasn’t the case at all. It’s difficult to interpret your posts any other way.

423 BongCrodny  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:19:25pm

re: #363 sattv4u2

I can only imagine the carnival rides he’d create!!

The Spin and Barf!

Okay, I stole that one from Rich Hall, but it’s still appropriate.

424 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:30:30pm

re: #422 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Congratulations. Your microscope has revealed the flaws as you perceive them within a rather casual and offhand comment.

425 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:33:06pm

re: #424 Political Atheist

Congratulations. Your microscope has revealed the flaws as you perceive them within a rather casual and offhand comment.

Again, no clue what you’re talking about. Am I right in that you thought Tyson, or I, was making some sort of implication that faith interferes with science?

426 ObserverArt  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:38:54pm

re: #414 makeitstop

Totally badass vintage music break…

1974 vintage King Crimson (Fripp/Wetton/Cross/Bruford), kicking ass and taking names on French TV.

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Nice. Saw them at Vet’s Memorial in Columbus that same year. The only band I ever saw that knew how to get the sound right in that very difficult building. Of course, they had a sound man that realized the building was live and they didn’t need all the PA in the truck! One speaker cab and one amp per guy and what looked like an big home stereo PA system and they nailed it. Most other bands turned the building into one big bout of white noise.

Everything about them was about quality in sound, delivery, etc. One of my favorite pieces of music ever is Larks Tongue in Aspic. Listed to it a couple of weeks ago.

427 sagehen  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:54:21pm

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d live in Sweden!
But Canada is closer.

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Plus… you don’t speak Swedish.


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