Glenn Greenwald at SXSW, the Infographic: Oh Yeah, Russia

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The Mighty Glenn Greenwald gave a presentation at Austin’s SXSW gathering of dudebros today, and since I know LGF readers are busy adults who don’t like to waste time with inconsequentialities, here’s the condensed infographic version of his speech about the perils of being the most honest and moral journalist in the world, courtesy of the very creative and talented folks at imagethink.net.

Here’s the full-sized version (click to enlarge):

I absolutely love how “RUSSIA” is sort of stuck in, way over in the bottom right corner with some squiggly lines and a generic silhouette and no other text, like they had an afterthought as they were running out of room. “Oh yeah, Russia. I guess we ought to at least mention that.”

Sums it up very well.

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423 comments
1 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:03:46pm

Apparently they’re seeking diversity:

Here’s a shot of the audience at SXSW watching Snowden:

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:05:48pm

I don’t see a single black face in that crowd.

3 Kid A  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:08:46pm
4 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:09:48pm

Well SXSW used to be cool. Now it’s just kinda sad. The company you keep matters.

6 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:11:47pm

Speaking (from Russia) with the Constitution as a photo background is pretty cheesy propaganda. I wonder if anyone in the SXSW audience noticed.

7 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:14:54pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t see a single black face in that crowd.

That’s because they were all busy standing in line to try and be one of the people getting in to see Kimmel or Cosby tonight. Why waste time with King Dudebro when you can get into a TV taping or maybe see a comedy legend?

8 Kragar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:15:39pm

I’ll take nonsensical BS for $500, Alex.

9 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:16:29pm

By the way, just for the record, I’m not being sarcastic when I say the folks at ImageThink are creative and talented. They do very good work.

10 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:16:43pm

Not a word about intrusive, secretive online corporate intelligence gathering at SXSW?!?

//Shocked face!

11 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:17:49pm

re: #10 b.d.

You clicked yes to the agreement!!!

12 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:20:22pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

By the way, just for the record, I’m not being sarcastic when I say the folks at ImageThink are creative and talented. They do very good work.

Those infographics are also done live, while the presentation is going on. That’s what’s really killer about them.

What I loved at SXSW is that ImageThink would print up those infographics and just give them away the day after a presentation. You could walk by one of the upstairs ballrooms at the convention center and there’d be a few tables with nothing but those infographics for every major keynote and presentation.

13 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:23:36pm

More lunatic conspiracy theories regarding Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 .

14 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:27:59pm

Speaking of MH370…

Editor’s note: CNN’s National Security reporter Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) says US officials tell him the stolen passports used to board MH370 fit the pattern of human trafficking. - Tom

end of note

15 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:33:03pm

‘Fatal Vision’ author Joe McGinniss dies at age 71

bigstory.ap.org

NEW YORK (AP) — Joe McGinniss, the adventurous and news-making author and reporter who skewered the marketing of Richard Nixon in “The Selling of the President 1968” and tracked his personal journey from sympathizer to scourge of convicted killer Jeffrey MacDonald in the blockbuster “Fatal Vision,” died Monday at age 71.

“McGinniss, who announced in 2013 that he had been diagnosed with inoperable prostate cancer, died from complications related to his disease. His attorney and longtime friend Dennis Holahan said he died at UMass Memorial Medical Center in Worcester, Mass.

“Few journalists of his time so intrepidly pursued a story, burned so many bridges or more memorably placed themselves in the narrative, whether insisting on the guilt of MacDonald after seemingly befriending him or moving next door to Sarah Palin’s house for a most unauthorized biography of the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate.”

16 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:33:36pm
17 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:34:32pm

re: #13 Gus

More lunatic conspiracy theories regarding Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 .

Pagey not loadey.

IT A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!

18 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:36:06pm

Bumper sticker of the day:

“Aphesis SCKS!”

Now, before everyone starts ragging on SXSWinteractive, remember that there is the crowd, the organizers, and the vision.

A lot of that vision was driven by John Barlow of the Electronic Freedom Foundation and local folks like Bruce Sterling, the author of The Hacker Crackdown. That vision includes freeware and all of the stuff that we use to keep much of the web out of the hands of the Corps who would be bleeding us dry by making us pay for programming that would make this very website unsustainable.

For better or for worse, Snowden fits into that vision, in a tangential way. I think the little fucker is a tiny little piece of shit who is in Russia because Pooty-poot thinks it gives him a relevance advantage over the west.

I don’t think that’s correct, but meh, there it is.

The crowd contains a lot of dudebros who think Snowden is godlike in his sacrifice. The organizers know how to put on a show. It’s their job.

But the rest of the conference is Killer Bee. It’s cutting edge tech, all of the damn time.

19 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:38:57pm

re: #18 austin_blue

But the rest of the conference is Killer Bee. It’s cutting edge tech, all of the damn time.

It’s also got some killer movies. I’m hearing great things on my Twitter and FB timelines about Diego Luna’s movie about Cesar Chavez. Can’t wait to check it out.

20 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:40:05pm

How is it now?

21 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:41:12pm

re: #4 Political Atheist

Well SXSW used to be cool. Now it’s just kinda sad. The company you keep matters.

The movie was good.

22 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:42:32pm

re: #15 Justanotherhuman

‘Fatal Vision’ author Joe McGinniss dies at age 71

bigstory.ap.org

NEW YORK (AP) — Joe McGinniss, the adventurous and news-making author and reporter who skewered the marketing of Richard Nixon in “The Selling of the President 1968” and tracked his personal journey from sympathizer to scourge of convicted killer Jeffrey MacDonald in the blockbuster “Fatal Vision,” died Monday at age 71.

“McGinniss, who announced in 2013 that he had been diagnosed with inoperable prostate cancer, died from complications related to his disease. His attorney and longtime friend Dennis Holahan said he died at UMass Memorial Medical Center in Worcester, Mass.

“Few journalists of his time so intrepidly pursued a story, burned so many bridges or more memorably placed themselves in the narrative, whether insisting on the guilt of MacDonald after seemingly befriending him or moving next door to Sarah Palin’s house for a most unauthorized biography of the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate.”

Condonlences to his family. I’m actually reading All the Presidents Men now.

23 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:42:50pm

Yeah, good luck with that. It’s like trying to explain the 70’s, but with more neon and parachute pants:

24 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:43:06pm

Paranoid conspiracies are all the rage these days. People are nuts.

25 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:43:10pm

re: #16 Lidane

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And they’ll still scream that Obama ruined the best health care system in the world.

26 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:45:16pm
27 Belafon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:45:18pm

re: #23 Lidane

The 80s - the last decade kids would spend talking about how they would like to die if they saw missiles overhead.

28 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:46:00pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

29 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:46:59pm

re: #23 Lidane

Yeah, good luck with that. It’s like trying to explain the 70’s, but with more neon and parachute pants:

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I don’t really remember the 80’s.

I think it was a good time.

30 Kid A  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:48:33pm
31 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:48:42pm

Following-up from the last thread on which I posted.

Anyone want to read a good psych who dunnit on modern-day slavery?

Simisola by Ruth Rendell.

There is a made-for-TV movie, but it’s not nearly as in depth as the book.

32 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:49:26pm

4 Google Trackers at Pando Google Paranoia Article

33 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:50:59pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Bumper sticker of the day:

“Aphesis SCKS!”

Now, before everyone starts ragging on SXSWinteractive, remember that there is the crowd, the organizers, and the vision.

A lot of that vision was driven by John Barlow of the Electronic Freedom Foundation and local folks like Bruce Sterling, the author of The Hacker Crackdown. That vision includes freeware and all of the stuff that we use to keep much of the web out of the hands of the Corps who would be bleeding us dry by making us pay for programming that would make this very website unsustainable.

For better or for worse, Snowden fits into that vision, in a tangential way. I think the little fucker is a tiny little piece of shit who is in Russia because Pooty-poot thinks it gives him a relevance advantage over the west.

I don’t think that’s correct, but meh, there it is.

The crowd contains a lot of dudebros who think Snowden is godlike in his sacrifice. The organizers know how to put on a show. It’s their job.

But the rest of the conference is Killer Bee. It’s cutting edge tech, all of the damn time.

Good, you’re finally here:

B-52 Stratofortress crew’s POV as they conduct a live drop over Nevada

Image: tumblr_n1iwc3O2z21rm2152o1_1280.jpg

34 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:52:16pm

re: #30 Kid A

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Yeah Hoft’s the last one that should be pulling this juvenile crap.

35 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:52:31pm

re: #26 Gus

Unless your car is covered with asphalt, the satellites can track where you drive.

36 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:53:06pm
37 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:53:08pm

Does that crazy Glenn Greewald poster remind anyone else of a Glenn Beck chalkboard?

38 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:53:17pm

re: #35 jaunte

Unless your car is covered with asphalt, the satellites can track where you drive.

You’d have to be a super high value suspect to garner that kind of tracking.

39 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:53:40pm

re: #38 Gus

Can’t be too careful.

40 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:53:54pm

re: #18 austin_blue

I dont think SXSW sucks. Not at all. But there’s something rotten going on when people like Julian Assange are treated as heroes.

41 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:54:29pm

re: #39 jaunte

Can’t be too careful.

My car is covered in tinfoil so we’re good.

42 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:55:46pm
43 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:56:15pm

re: #41 Gus

My car is covered in tinfoil so we’re good.

Gold-Plated Tinfoil?

44 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:56:25pm

re: #41 Gus

My car is covered in tinfoil so we’re good.

Shiny side OUT or IN? It’s makes a difference you know.

RBS

45 jaunte  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:56:50pm

Cover the tinfoil in tar for stealth.

46 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:57:54pm

re: #44 RealityBasedSteve

Shiny side OUT or IN? It’s makes a difference you know.

RBS

Actually double layer with shiny side inside and outside. One to keep my thoughts inside mah brainz and another to keep out government mind control HAARP beams and GMO chemicals.

47 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:58:15pm

re: #45 jaunte

Cover the tinfoil in tar for stealth.

Canadian tars sands. Always.

48 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:00:14pm

re: #44 RealityBasedSteve

Shiny side OUT or IN? It’s makes a difference you know.

RBS

Photographers solved this dilemma decades ago. Resut: Cinefoil.

49 teleskiguy  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:00:23pm

re: #6 jaunte

Speaking (from Russia) with the Constitution as a photo background is pretty cheesy propaganda. I wonder if anyone in the SXSW audience noticed.

50 simoom  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:00:24pm

About time. She should have been fired a long time ago over her DOJ hacking persecution fantasy and her anti-vax BS, but this will have to suffice:

51 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:00:25pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Good, you’re finally here:

B-52 Stratofortress crew’s POV as they conduct a live drop over Nevada

Image: tumblr_n1iwc3O2z21rm2152o1_1280.jpg

That’s the Naviguesser and the Bombardier downstairs. Their ejection seats exit the airplane out of the bottom of the airplane..

52 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:00:41pm

Wait. Here’s one person on Twitter complaining about “passport control” man. Yeesh.

53 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:01:31pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

I dont think SXSW sucks. Not at all. But there’s something rotten going on when people like Julian Assange are treated as heroes.

Agreed, but that’s the crowd. And he’s this year’s flavor, soon to disappear into irrelevance.

54 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:02:23pm

re: #51 austin_blue

That’s the Naviguesser and the Bombardier downstairs. Their ejection seats exit the airplane out of the bottom of the airplane..

55 simoom  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:05:06pm

re: #50 simoom

washingtonpost.com

Rumors of Attkisson’s stormy relations with her superiors at CBS News have made the rounds for months and months. In conversations from last year, CBS News sources told the Erik Wemple Blog that Attkisson, who came to the network from CNN two decades ago, was frustrated that more of her reporting on Benghazi and other investigative pieces didn’t make “The CBS Evening News” with greater frequency.

Attkisson herself didn’t help matters when she said on a Philadelphia radio show last May that her computers had been hacked, and she even went so far as to suggest that the intrusions could have had something to do with her work investigating the government. CBS News later confirmed breaches of her computer, though it never disclosed who had been responsible for them.

56 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:06:29pm
57 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:07:43pm

re: #56 FemNaziBitch

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Well sometimes harsh is what you gotta be when it comes to people like that. After all, he’s the one who complained that the film didn’t show happy slaves.

58 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:08:58pm

59 DKoch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:09:18pm

The Snowden clown show just proves we’re living in an age of narcissism.

60 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:09:39pm
61 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:09:47pm

My dinger is lazy.

62 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:10:00pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

I dont think SXSW sucks. Not at all. But there’s something rotten going on when people like Julian Assange are treated as heroes.

Interactive basically functions as Silicon Valley’s spring break. It’s a weird combination of venture capitalists, developers, tech nerds, and people who want to work in tech. But there are sometimes some really great panels and speakers. It’s worth noting that The Three Dudebros (Assange, Greenwald, and Snowden) weren’t keynote speakers. They were what are called featured sessions. The keynotes are people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Adam Savage, and Chelsea Clinton.

Interactive ends tomorrow, so the dudebros and neckbeards will go back to their cubicles and offices. The hero worship of Snowden and the others will take a backseat to people debating Lady Gaga’s keynote for the music conference while trying to score tickets to her show. Heh.

63 b.d.  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:10:59pm

re: #58 Pie-onist Overlord

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FAKE QUOTE!! I COULDN’T FIND IT AT monticello.org!?!?!?

//

64 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:12:08pm

re: #63 b.d.

FAKE QUOTE!! I COULDN’T FIND IT AT monticello.org!?!?!?

//

What annoys me is how pissy certain individuals get when you point out Jefferson’s hypocrisy. Nevermind the fact that other founding fathers criticized him for writing elegantly about how all men being created equal while still owning people.

65 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:13:13pm

re: #61 Amory Blaine

My dinger is lazy.

There’s a pill for that, but we really need to work on your tendency to “over-share” //

RBS

66 DKoch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:14:05pm

Attkisson was also a vaccination-denier

sethmnookin.com

67 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:14:41pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

What annoys me is how pissy certain individuals get when you point out Jefferson’s hypocrisy. Nevermind the fact that other founding fathers criticized him for writing elegantly about how all men being created equal while still owning people.

HURR HURR!!!! ALL TEH SLAVERYS WAS TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!11!!!!
VB: SO JEFFERSON, WASHINGTON, MADISON & OTHER SLAVE-OWNING FOUNDERS WERE ALL DEMOCRSTS?
HURR HURR!!!! UR A COMMUNIST LIBTARD!!!!!!!

68 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:15:05pm
69 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:15:53pm

re: #51 austin_blue

That’s the Naviguesser and the Bombardier downstairs. Their ejection seats exit the airplane out of the bottom of the airplane..

OK, I may regret this one but why “naviguesser”? Bad experience, or general nickname?

70 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:16:29pm

re: #67 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! ALL TEH SLAVERYS WAS TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!11!!!!
VB: SO JEFFERSON, WASHINGTON, MADISON & OTHER SLAVE-OWNING FOUNDERS WERE ALL DEMOCRSTS?
HURR HURR!!!! UR A COMMUNIST LIBTARD!!!!!!!

I’ve gotten in to a couple discussions about it. The comparison between Washington and Jefferson, IMHO, leaves Jefferson in the moral dust. Washington died debt free and could free his slaves in his will after Martha died.. Jefferson never even tried to put himself in a position to do so.

71 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:16:52pm

re: #67 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! ALL TEH SLAVERYS WAS TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!11!!!!
VB: SO JEFFERSON, WASHINGTON, MADISON & OTHER SLAVE-OWNING FOUNDERS WERE ALL DEMOCRSTS?
HURR HURR!!!! UR A COMMUNIST LIBTARD!!!!!!!

They do that shit and then they say stupid shit like that one critic of 12 Years a Slave. By the way, you mentioned that you were reading the book. Did you find a kindle copy or print?

72 Kid A  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:17:43pm
73 Kid A  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:18:39pm
74 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:18:59pm
75 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:19:03pm

re: #70 FemNaziBitch

I’ve gotten in to a couple discussions about it. The comparison between Washington and Jefferson, IMHO, leaves Jefferson in the moral dust. Washington died debt free and could free his slaves in his will after Martha died.. Jefferson never even tried to put himself in a position to do so.

He also despite the mythology to the controversy wasn’t some benign master. There was profit to be made from slavery and Jefferson did very much so. We have to look at our founding fathers and see them for they were. Men, men with flaws that at ran counter to what they wrote about. It doesn’t mean I think Jefferson was evil but we do need to talk about the contradictions. The contradictions are as much history and important to understanding our country as our the principles they espoused.

76 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:19:58pm

re: #73 Kid A

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I believe he was the one who did his research not too far from their home and Sarah and Todd called him a stalker. I’m sure she’d sung a different tune if Mr. McGuinnis were writing an admiring biography.

77 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:22:00pm

Some group called the Tea Party Patriots followed me on twitter.

really?

78 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:23:15pm

re: #70 FemNaziBitch

I’ve gotten in to a couple discussions about it. The comparison between Washington and Jefferson, IMHO, leaves Jefferson in the moral dust. Washington died debt free and could free his slaves in his will after Martha died.. Jefferson never even tried to put himself in a position to do so.

Jefferson also held Sally Hemming’s children’s freedom hostage in order to get her to agree to return from France with him. France had abolished slavery, so she was a free person there and only agreed to return and be his slave again if he in turn agreed to free her children who he still owned as property in Virginia.

That’s a monstrous thing to hold over another human being.

79 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:25:23pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Jefferson also held Sally Hemming’s children’s freedom hostage in order to get her to agree to return from France with him. France had abolished slavery, so she was a free person there and only agreed to return and be his slave again if he in turn agreed to free her children who he still owned as property in Virginia.

That’s a monstrous thing to hold over another human being.

There is also something deeply creepy about owning your wife’s half sister,

80 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:26:00pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Jefferson also held Sally Hemming’s children’s freedom hostage in order to get her to agree to return from France with him. France had abolished slavery, so she was a free person there and only agreed to return and be his slave again if he in turn agreed to free her children who he still owned as property in Virginia.

That’s a monstrous thing to hold over another human being.

Especially if the legends are true about her having been his half sister in law.

81 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:26:58pm

re: #79 The Ghost of a Flea

There is also something deeply creepy about owning your wife’s half sister,

I don’t think it’s been conclusively proven but yes. I actually had to research quite a bit on Jefferson and slavery my last month at the history magazine firm. Needless to say, non-slave owning founders like Adams started looking better.

82 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:27:12pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

He also despite the mythology to the controversy wasn’t some benign master. There was profit to be made from slavery and Jefferson did very much so. We have to look at our founding fathers and see them for they were. Men, men with flaws that at ran counter to what they wrote about. It doesn’t mean I think Jefferson was evil but we do need to talk about the contradictions. The contradictions are as much history and important to understanding our country as our the principles they espoused.

I have a hard time with Jefferson. I think he was rather narcissistic. I don’t think he cared for people as much as he cared about his vision. Which was an agrarian society which could only thrive with slavery.

The idea of a soldier or statesman returning to his farm/plantation after serving his country well, just doesn’t happen without free labor.

Monticello is beautiful. For all it’s grandeur, it’s no more impressive or usable than Mt Vernon. Washington watched every penny and was able to leave the property to Martha.

Jefferson’s children had move out because Monticello and all his slaves had to sold to be sold at auction to pay his debts.

I can understand the Virginia founders were in a tough spot regarding slavery, but I think there are justifiable comparisons to be made. Washington saw his slaves as people —I don’t think Jefferson did.

83 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:28:14pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I don’t think it’s been conclusively proven but yes. I actually had to research quite a bit on Jefferson and slavery my last month at the history magazine firm. Needless to say, non-slave owning founders like Adams started looking better.

Alexander Hamilton doesn’t get much credit as a true founding father. He was a staunch abolitionist.

84 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:29:54pm

re: #83 FemNaziBitch

Alexander Hamilton doesn’t get much credit as a true founding father. He was a staunch abolitionist.

Hamilton is the definition of how the winners write history. His party died out as you know and he wasn’t the most likable person but you’re right, he doesn’t get enough credit for his virtues.

85 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:30:04pm
86 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:32:13pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Hamilton is the definition of how the winners write history. His party died out as you know and he wasn’t the most likable person but you’re right, he doesn’t get enough credit for his virtues.

It’s also that Hamilton was unable to run for president (having been born in the West Indies) and thus did not benefit from the focus American history typically places upon the president.

87 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:33:08pm

We want to see our founders as almost secular saints. Ones incapable of malice or evil. Ones whose mistakes were merely because of the times they lived in. I am of the thought that we can admire what the FF’s did while looking critically at the past. I believe Obama got some heat from the right when he quoted THurgood Marshall as saying the Constittuion had flaws when it was written and you know what, both of them were absolutely right. It took 78 years after the writing of the Constitution to abolish slavery and 133 to give women the right to vote etc.

88 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:34:19pm

How kewl is this?
Japanese granny’s embroidered spheres show nature’s pattern language

The carefully hand-embroidered balls often made from the thread of old kimonos were created by parents or grandparents and given to children on New Year’s day as special gift. According to Wikipedia the balls would sometimes contain secret handwritten wish for the child, or else contained some kind of noise-making object like a bell.

89 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:34:28pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

It’s also that Hamilton was unable to run for president (having been born in the West Indies) and thus did not benefit from the focus American history typically places upon the president.

True but we do remember Franklin, Hancock,Sam Adams, etc much more favorably than we do Hamilton. Not saying you’re wrong but Hamilton hurt his legacy in American lore by making a lot of enemies. I really would like to learn more about him. I think he was a visionary for all his faults.

90 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:35:10pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

It’s also that Hamilton was unable to run for president (having been born in the West Indies) and thus did not benefit from the focus American history typically places upon the president.

Hamilton was a citizen at the time of the adopting of the Constitution, therefore he was eligible to run for President under Article Two Section One.

91 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:35:18pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

We want to see our founders as almost secular saints. Ones incapable of malice or evil. Ones whose mistakes were merely because of the times they lived in. I am of the thought that we can admire what the FF’s did while looking critically at the past. I believe Obama got some heat from the right when he quoted THurgood Marshall as saying the Constittuion had flaws when it was written and you know what, both of them were absolutely right. It took 78 years after the writing of the Constitution to abolish slavery and 133 to give women the right to vote etc.

No, I don’t want them as saints. Just appreciated for they did do.

Mostly, those that became POTUS —gave up power when their terms were over.

92 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:36:40pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

True but we do remember Franklin, Hancock,Sam Adams, etc much more favorably than we do Hamilton. Not saying you’re wrong but Hamilton hurt his legacy in American lore by making a lot of enemies. I really would like to learn more about him. I think he was a visionary for all his faults.

Hamilton was born out-of-wedlock on the Islands—and became an orphan at a young age. As a result, he was often not treated much better than the slaves.

He took that to heart.

93 aagcobb  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:36:47pm

re: #82 FemNaziBitch

I have a hard time with Jefferson. I think he was rather narcissistic. I don’t think he cared for people as much as he cared about his vision. Which was an agrarian society which could only thrive with slavery.

The idea of a soldier or statesman returning to his farm/plantation after serving his country well, just doesn’t happen without free labor.

Monticello is beautiful. For all it’s grandeur, it’s no more impressive or usable than Mt Vernon. Washington watched every penny and was able to leave the property to Martha.

Jefferson’s children had move out because Monticello and all his slaves had to sold to be sold at auction to pay his debts.

I can understand the Virginia founders were in a tough spot regarding slavery, but I think there are justifiable comparisons to be made. Washington saw his slaves as people —I don’t think Jefferson did.

And Jefferson doesn’t get any extra credit for being a man of his times, nor should we listen to any complaints about judging him by the standards of our times, because he wrote the words which set the standards for our times. We know he knew better.

94 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:36:49pm

re: #91 FemNaziBitch

No, I don’t want them as saints. Just appreciated for they did do.

Mostly, those that became POTUS —gave up power when their terms were over.

Well when I say we I mean the country as a whole. I actually did a term paper on the latter on what you’re talking about though. It’s one reason why I admire Adams. He willingly seeded power to Jefferson after losing to him in 1800.

95 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:37:23pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

True but we do remember Franklin, Hancock,Sam Adams, etc much more favorably than we do Hamilton. Not saying you’re wrong but Hamilton hurt his legacy in American lore by making a lot of enemies. I really would like to learn more about him. I think he was a visionary for all his faults.

That brings up another factor, that one of the best known things about Hamilton is that one of his enemies killed him in a duel. In so doing, Aaron Burr forever sharpened the focus on the violence at the end of Hamilton’s life and away from Hamilton’s ideas.

96 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:37:26pm
97 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:37:32pm

I listened to this book about Alexander Hamilton a while back. I had never really studied him.

98 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:38:16pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Hamilton was a citizen at the time of the adopting of the Constitution, therefore he was eligible to run for President under Article Two Section One.

Do you think he never ran because he realized he perhaps wasn’t presidential material. A better administrator i.e. Secretary of Treasury than executive? I’m not sure off the top of my head if he ever actually sought elected office. The falling out between him and Burr I believe was over a candidate that Hamilton supported.

99 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:38:50pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

That brings up another factor, that one of the best known things about Hamilton is that one of his enemies killed him in a duel. In so doing, Aaron Burr forever sharpened the focus on the violence at the end of Hamilton’s life and away from Hamilton’s ideas.

Yeah he’s the guy who got killed and that guy who is the non-president who isn’t Franklin on our money.

100 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:39:06pm

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

I listened to this book about Alexander Hamilton a while back. I had never really studied him.

I have that. Still need to read it.

101 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:39:26pm

re: #56 FemNaziBitch

I finally broke down and read that article and am making my way through the comments. I’m amazed that so many people are so blind to the blatant racism in the RWNJ movement today. They’re acting like that author’s opinion is the exception, not the rule. Haven’t they ever seen the comments for any article about the Obamas?

102 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:39:54pm
103 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:40:12pm

re: #93 aagcobb

And Jefferson doesn’t get any extra credit for being a man of his times, nor should we listen to any complaints about judging him by the standards of our times, because he wrote the words which set the standards for our times. We know he knew better.

He definitely knew better. He has a gift for thinking philosophically that many didn’t. He knew all the angles and chose the ones that worked best for HIM. I think he tried to fit the world to his idea of what it should be and made it work to his advantage.

I just can’t understand or forgive his repeatly going into debt for unnecessary reasons when he could done without and eventually freed his slaves. A person who values other humans doesn’t do that.

104 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:41:14pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

That brings up another factor, that one of the best known things about Hamilton is that one of his enemies killed him in a duel. In so doing, Aaron Burr forever sharpened the focus on the violence at the end of Hamilton’s life and away from Hamilton’s ideas.

Hamilton got a bit wonky about his “reputation”. No matter how many times he bettered Burr in debate, he couldn’t just “let it go” when Burr insulted him.

105 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:41:15pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Yeah he’s the guy who got killed and that guy who is the non-president who isn’t Franklin on our money.

Also, anachronistically, Salmon P. Chase.

106 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:41:56pm

re: #105 goddamnedfrank

Also, anachronistically, Salmon P. Chase.

Yep. Finally did get to learn more about him when I read Team of Rivals.

107 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:42:05pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Do you think he never ran because he realized he perhaps wasn’t presidential material. A better administrator i.e. Secretary of Treasury than executive? I’m not sure off the top of my head if he ever actually sought elected office. The falling out between him and Burr I believe was over a candidate that Hamilton supported.

Jefferson et. al. labeled him as a Monarchist because of his views of the importance of trade.

He had the vision that we live today.

108 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:43:11pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Yep. Finally did get to learn more about him when I read Team of Rivals.

Still have to read that. I have both the print and audible editions.

The queue is long.

109 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:43:37pm
110 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:44:08pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

I have that. Still need to read it.

It can get “scholarly” at times, but overall is very readable.

111 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:44:11pm

re: #107 FemNaziBitch

Jefferson et. al. labeled him as a Monarchist because of his views of the importance of trade.

He had the vision that we live today.

I think I put it in an essay that while we live by Jefferson’s words, we live in Hamilton’s America economic wise. Jefferson’s dream of the nation of small farmers really never was or at least has not been since the Industrial Revolution took off following the Civil War. Hamilton saw the future of the country was in tis cities.

112 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:45:03pm

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

Still have to read that. I have both the print and audible editions.

The queue is long.

Ooh who reads the audible edition? I’m finally trying to get more into audio books since I have a bad habit of reading too fast and I’m finally getting into more Joyce and Joyce is someone you have to catch every detail.

113 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:45:12pm

re: #104 FemNaziBitch

Hamilton got a bit wonky about his “reputation”. No matter how many times he bettered Burr in debate, he couldn’t just “let it go” when Burr insulted him.

It was a different time, GGT. Back then, it was considered unmanly to simply ignore high-profile insults. Especially in the Southern states, refuse to defend one’s honor via a duel was considered to mean either that the attacks against the man were true, or that he was a coward.

114 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:46:07pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I think I put it in an essay that while we live by Jefferson’s words, we live in Hamilton’s America economic wise. Jefferson’s dream of the nation of small farmers really never was or at least has not been since the Industrial Revolution took off following the Civil War. Hamilton saw the future of the country was in tis cities.

You are right.

I can’t remember why he never ran for office. I know he was Washington’s man during the revolution and Washington mediated disputes between he and Jefferson for many years after.

He had a bee in his bonnet about the National Bank. I think that was his priority.

115 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:46:41pm

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

It was a different time, GGT. Back then, it was considered unmanly to simply ignore high-profile insults. Especially in the Southern states, refuse to defend one’s honor via a duel was considered to mean either that the attacks against the man were true, or that he was a coward.

IIRC, duels were illegal by that time.

116 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:47:15pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Ooh who reads the audible edition? I’m finally trying to get more into audio books since I have a bad habit of reading too fast and I’m finally getting into more Joyce and Joyce is someone you have to catch every detail.

Joyce —oh my. I stare at what I have on my bookshelves. I don’t think I”m old enough yet.

117 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:47:17pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Do you think he never ran because he realized he perhaps wasn’t presidential material.

He simply burned too many bridges.

118 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:47:24pm

Holy shit @ this comment at that American Spectator derp:

The really sad thing about the US Civil war was that the South was right about everything it was saying with regards to states’ rights and Northern Aggression, but they were using them to cloak and protect a “Peculiar Institution” that was abominable. Lincoln and the Union Army were war criminals and violated almost every protection of the Constitution, and they didn’t even start the war to end slavery, but halfway through the war, Lincoln changed what it was about. (Where do you think Bush the Younger learned that trick?) In the end, the American version of Slavery was eliminated, but at a great cost to our nation in terms of Freedom that we still suffer today.

Maybe that’s the penance we have to pay for allowing Slavery to continue after the American Revolution.

So basically the Confederacy had the right message, but they used the wrong messaging by focusing on slavery?

What. The. FUCK. Some of these people are deranged.

119 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:47:47pm

re: #114 FemNaziBitch

You are right.

I can’t remember why he never ran for office. I know he was Washington’s man during the revolution and Washington mediated disputes between he and Jefferson for many years after.

He had a bee in his bonnet about the National Bank. I think that was his priority.

I think he was Washington’s adjutant or something like that. Okay while not really a true Founding Father, I actually really admire John Quincy Adams too which is strange given my also grudging admiration for his rival, Jackson.

120 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:48:54pm

re: #116 FemNaziBitch

Joyce —oh my. I stare at what I have on my bookshelves. I don’t think I”m old enough yet.

Dubliners isn’t a bad read and if you like audio, I found a great one where the short stories are read by Irish notables. I’m doing a lot of reading of Joyce, Hemingway, Orwell, and others in prep for my European trip this summer.

121 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:50:16pm

re: #118 Lidane

Holy shit @ this comment at that American Spectator derp:

So basically the Confederacy was right, but they used the wrong messaging by focusing on slavery?

What. The. FUCK. Some of these people are deranged.

I’d remind Dumbass McDumbfuck that most of the states that made up the CSA seceded before Abraham Lincoln took the oath of office. Remember in those days, presidents were sworn in March not January. Plus the whole bit about the Confederates firing on US property (Fort Sumter).

122 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:50:35pm

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

IIRC, duels were illegal by that time.

They were illegal in New York, but the island where the duel was fought belonged to New Jersey at the time and duels were still legal there.

123 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:52:06pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

They were illegal in New York, but the island where the duel was fought belonged to New Jersey at the time and duels were still legal there.

I was just looking that up.

He could have avoided it —if every gentlemen took insults seriously, none would left. I still think Hamilton could have avoided the duel, but his ego got in the way.

124 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:52:11pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

They were illegal in New York, but the island where the duel was fought belonged to New Jersey at the time and duels were still legal there.

Plus as you said, duels were part of culture. Maybe this isn’t the best analogy but I guess I’d liken it to drag racing or something like that. Something that is illegal but not unheard of either. People were still dying in duels a generation after Hamilton’s death. And I think the duel Jackson had where he killed a man was after Hamilton-Burr too.

125 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:54:45pm

re: #118 Lidane

Holy shit @ this comment at that American Spectator derp:

So basically the Confederacy had the right message, but they used the wrong messaging by focusing on slavery?

What. The. FUCK. Some of these people are deranged.

No, he’s saying that the South was right about what it said about state’s rights and “Northern Aggression” but that those things were ultimately just camouflage to disguise the real aim of the Confederacy, which was the preservation of slavery.

So this guy is wingnutty in many ways, but he’s actually an improvement on most Lincoln haters because he at least admits what the South’s real cause was. He’s still very wrong though.

126 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:57:50pm

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

I was just looking that up.

He could have avoided it —if every gentlemen took insults seriously, none would left. I still think Hamilton could have avoided the duel, but his ego got in the way.

Hamilton felt it was better to die than to have people believe he was afraid to face Burr 9Burr was known as a good shot). Like Gen. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson of the Civil War, Alexander Hamilton believed the disgrace of being thought a coward was worse than death.

127 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:57:59pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

OK, I may regret this one but why “naviguesser”? Bad experience, or general nickname?

General nickname. Some are good, others..thank god for Tacans.

128 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 7:58:24pm

I for one can’t believe we deal with people who think the South was right and you’re talking to someone who lives in Virginia. I just don’t get it. I can understand why people may have admiration for Great Great Great Grandpa who fought with the Army of Northern Virginia but the cause itself, the cause itself was evil and I don’t think that’s modern bias when you see that every state in the CSA had unionist volutneers. Like Lee gets a lot of veneration in Lost Cause circles because he stayed by his state but give me guys like George Thomas who stood by their country in its most troubling hour or the many immigrants who volunteered for their new home like my great great grandfather.

129 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:00:05pm

A Fistful Of Dollars by Ennio Morricone

Youtube Video

130 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:00:47pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

No, he’s saying that the South was right about what it said about state’s rights and “Northern Aggression” but that those things were ultimately just camouflage to disguise the real aim of the Confederacy, which was the preservation of slavery.

So this guy is wingnutty in many ways, but he’s actually an improvement on most Lincoln haters because he at least admits what the South’s real cause was. He’s still very wrong though.

He’s an idiot, but he’s a damn sight better than this other douchecanoe in the comments who is saying that slavery wasn’t so bad because there weren’t any slave revolts in the South during the war. Oh and the Romans owned slaves so it’s okay then.

The sheer level of stupid on display by the people defending that Spectator derp is mind-blowing. I can’t believe these people are able to function in their daily lives without hurting themselves. WTF.

131 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:01:29pm

re: #130 Lidane

He’s an idiot, but he’s a damn sight better than this other douchecanoe in the comments who is saying that slavery wasn’t so bad because there weren’t any slave revolts in the South during the war. Oh and the Romans owned slaves so it’s okay then.

The sheer level of stupid on display by the people defending that Spectator derp is mind-blowing. I can’t believe these people are able to function in their daily lives without hurting themselves. WTF.

Slavery’s okay because the Romans did it? So by that standard, I’m sure he’s fine with gays and paganism, right?

132 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:01:54pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Slavery’s okay because the Romans did it? So by that standard, I’m sure he’s fine with gays and paganism, right?

And massacres.

133 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:02:17pm
134 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:02:39pm

re: #132 The Ghost of a Flea

And massacres.

and imperialism, oh wait that one’s not bad because Obama apparently is a Kenyan anti-imperialist*
*With thanks to Dinesh D’Sousa for making that out to be a bad thing

135 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:03:14pm

Can Grumpy Cat help save SXSW’s reputation?

136 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:04:01pm

re: #133 Gus

Grumpy is coming:

137 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:05:38pm

re: #135 Gus

Can Grumpy Cat help save SXSW’s reputation?

Grumpy Cat is grumpy at his agent. Grumpy not liking Dudebros.

138 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:07:02pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

and imperialism, oh wait that one’s not bad because Obama apparently is a Kenyan anti-imperialist*
*With thanks to Dinesh D’Sousa for making that out to be a bad thing

We just had a bunch of jackholes laughing at Donald Trump talking about how we totally should have taken all of Iraq’s oil because we deserved it.

139 Majacita  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:07:44pm

I can agree that Jefferson was a morally suspect man who knew better. But I have to object to the way you’ve characterized his relationship with Sally Hemmings. He has been shown conclusively to not be the father of most of her children with the possibility of being the father of one of them. We don’t know what her relationship with him in France was and we certainly don’t know if he blackmailed her into coming back to America. We know she was his wife’s sister and that his wife died fairly young. We don’t know their actual relationship. The fact that he cared more about being able to buy books and wine at the end of his life rather than leave his family provided for or to free his slaves is an indictment enough. Don’t add historical gossip to that.

140 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:08:21pm

re: #138 The Ghost of a Flea

We just had a bunch of jackholes laughing at Donald Trump talking about how we totally should have taken all of Iraq’s oil because we deserved it.

Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity, ha-ha!

141 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:13:37pm

142 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:15:26pm

Is that a real photo?

143 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:16:34pm

144 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:16:43pm

re: #142 Amory Blaine

Is that a real photo?

Dunno but I know she showed up last year with a Big Gulp. It was her way of “mocking” Bloomberg but she just looked like a fool instead. This year, her shitick was using Dr. Seuss’s Green Eggs and Ham to mock Obama forgeting that the main character ended up liking Green Eggs and Ham in the end.

145 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:16:43pm

re: #142 Amory Blaine

Is that a real photo?

Nope.

146 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:18:08pm

Thor vs. Hulk with Stan Lee caught in the crossfire:

147 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:18:44pm

We seem to have attracted a hard core wingnut.

littlegreenfootballs.com

148 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:19:20pm

re: #146 Lidane

Thor vs. Hulk with Stan Lee caught in the crossfire:

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You gotta love people like him, Betty White, and others who are still having a lot of fun well into their 90’s. Lauren Bacall guest starred on Family Guy last night too.

149 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:21:45pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

We seem to have attracted a hard core wingnut.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I like how he does the usual I’m not a member of either party but blah blah. What a hack. If you’re going to be a water carrier for the GOP, at least have the nads to admit that you support that party. And the whole bit about liberals being racist because we oppose Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, etc, and all the Dems have since Truman is name calling when the right patented the whole YOU’RE NOT A PATRIOT CARD.

150 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:21:56pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

We seem to have attracted a hard core wingnut.

littlegreenfootballs.com

This guy maybe?

151 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:22:23pm

re: #135 Gus

Can Grumpy Cat help save SXSW’s reputation?

At the very least, she’s more graceful and practical than any dudebro, but that applies to almost any cat.

152 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:25:06pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

You gotta love people like him, Betty White, and others who are still having a lot of fun well into their 90’s. Lauren Bacall guest starred on Family Guy last night too.

If he comes back to Austin Comic-Con this year, I will find a way to set aside money and get a photo with him. Stan Lee is awesome.

153 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:25:46pm

re: #152 Lidane

If he comes back to Austin Comic-Con this year, I will find a way to set aside money and get a photo with him. Stan Lee is awesome.

That would be too cool. He just seems like such a cool old guy.

154 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:27:41pm

Most notable from the “I saw Grumpy Cat in the window!” tweets is that the Tarder Sauce (Grumpy Cat’s real name) is most easily identified from the light reflecting from her eyes.

155 Kragar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:28:53pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I like how he does the usual I’m not a member of either party but blah blah. What a hack. If you’re going to be a water carrier for the GOP, at least have the nads to admit that you support that party. And the whole bit about liberals being racist because we oppose Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, etc, and all the Dems have since Truman is name calling when the right patented the whole YOU’RE NOT A PATRIOT CARD.

Ran into one of those nutters a few days ago on Twitter. Constantly complaining about “DAMN LIBTARDS!”, but don’t you dare call him a conservative.

156 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:30:20pm

re: #155 Kragar

Ran into one of those nutters a few days ago on Twitter. Constantly complaining about “DAMN LIBTARDS!”, but don’t you dare call him a conservative.

Yeah “libertarians” aka a right wing coward too cowardly to admit that he votes GOP every time because he hates the Dems and doesn’t want them in office.

157 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:31:59pm

- Oh I’m a libertarian!
- Yeah? how you feel about gay marriage
- Marriage is between a man and a woman, and same sex marriage should be banned.
- That’s not a libertarian position.
- But I’m a libertarian
- No, you’re a so-con in denial.
- Shut up libtard, I am just not into PC
- PC’s got nothing to do with it, you just don’t want gays have the same rights as you do.

158 bratwurst  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:31:59pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I like how he does the usual I’m not a member of either party but blah blah.

This seems to have become a fairly common refrain amongst people who are embarrassed about having voted for George W. Bush twice.

159 Gus  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:32:50pm
160 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:33:13pm

re: #158 bratwurst

This seems to have become a fairly common refrain amongst people who are embarrassed about having voted for George W. Bush twice.

I like how Bush suddenly became a liberal after years of anyone who criticized him was somehow not a patriot. I actually feel for Bush in that way, that he did what he felt was right for the country and now these guys run away from him because they know being tainted with him is like having been tainted with Carter following the late 70’s.

161 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:34:43pm

I’m gonna watch this for the next 35 minutes.

ah, never hit Post.

It was very sad. But also good.

Social Services did their job once they were informed.

162 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:35:56pm

More conservations with libertarians.
- So how do you feel about a woman’s right to choose?
- Abortion should always be banned
- But didn’t you say you were a libertarian, it shouldn’t be the government’s right to tell a woman what to do with her body
- It’s murder!
- But how can you complain about big government when you support the government telling a woman what to do with her own body
*crickets*

163 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:38:09pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

My favorites are the “libertarians” that retweet and/or share every batshit pile of derp from National Review, The Blaze, and Heritage, as if those are bastions of libertarian thought.

No, you’re just a Republican who doesn’t want to admit you’re a Republican.

164 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:38:15pm

Or one that we see a lot with Ron and Rand Paul fans and relevant to this discussion about slavery.
- So slavery was wrong, right? I mean it should be something that any libertarian regardless of how you feel about Lincoln should oppose.
- States rights
- But what about the individual right not to be enslaved, that doesn’t count for anything?
- Lincoln was a terrible tyrant
- But Davis did pretty much the same things you denounce Lincoln for.
- It was a war of Northern Aggression
- The bulk of the CSA formed before Lincoln was president and there’s that Fort Sumter thing.
- Ron Paul cares about liberty and Obama is a statist!

165 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:39:19pm

re: #163 Lidane

My favorites are the “libertarians” that retweet and/or share every batshit pile of derp from National Review, The Blaze, and Heritage, as if those are bastions of libertarian thought.

No, you’re just a Republican who doesn’t want to admit you’re a Republican.

Yep. Seriously, I know quite a bit real libertarians. Mind you, we disagree about the role government has to play in the economy but these people didn’t run to Ken Cuccinnelli like “libertarians” Paul and son.

166 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:45:01pm

re: #163 Lidane

My favorites are the “libertarians” that retweet and/or share every batshit pile of derp from National Review, The Blaze, and Heritage, as if those are bastions of libertarian thought.

No, you’re just a Republican who doesn’t want to admit you’re a Republican.

I knew Cato was Fubar when I sat at a Cato Luncheon and an older gentlemen basically recited Heritage talking points about “regulation etc” regarding derivatives and the 2008 banking crisis.

I wanted to scream “WHAT REGULATION YOU TOOL?”, but I politely just went on eating.

Sad, because a couple of the speakers were true Liberatarian (sp?) )types —talking about over spending on military and such. The rest were RWNJ’s feeling smug because they were labeling themselves as Liberatarian.

I only went to hear P.J. O’Rourke speak and he was awful.

Never again.

167 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:47:19pm
168 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:49:33pm

sre: #167 FemNaziBitch

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I hate people sometimes. Even if you feel Zimmerman was innocent of murder, an autograph really? Hey that guy shot and killed a seventeen year old black kid, need to add that to the collection. What’s next? The dipshit that shot that kid because of the music going on the autograph circuit? Sorry edited. Long day.

169 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:52:11pm

WHY?

170 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:52:50pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

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I hate people sometimes. Even if you feel Zimmerman was innocent of murder, an autograph really? Hey that guy shot and killed a seventeen year old black kid, need to add that to the collection. What’s next? The dipshit that shot that kid because of the music going on the autograph circuit? Sorry edited. Long day.

Pathetic is the word I’d use, for both Zimmerman and those who want his autograph.

171 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:53:24pm

Is everyone downstairs with the troll?

172 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:55:48pm

re: #170 FemNaziBitch

Pathetic is the word I’d use, for both Zimmerman and those who want his autograph.

It actually angers me. I mean it’s one thing to me to think that the guy was defending himself- I strongly disagree- very much so - but this is ghoulish on both his and the autograph seekers part. If Zimmerman had any sense at all, he’d try not to appear like a callous ass.

173 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:56:37pm

re: #171 FemNaziBitch

Is everyone downstairs with the troll?

Palomino just owned him.

174 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 8:58:54pm

re: #166 FemNaziBitch

Ah, Cato. I remember them. When I went through my libertarian phase in my 20’s I read this and this from David Boaz at Cato. I think I still have them in storage somewhere.

Haven’t read anything by him or from Cato in years, but at the time I remember liking those books. They had some interesting ideas. Impratical ideas, but interesting.

175 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:03:01pm

Have to say. Couldn’t help but want to weep a little reading about Adam Lanza’s father. The poor man feels terrible about what his son did at Newtown. So terrible that he apparently told victims’ families that he’d give his own life so they could get their loved ones back and that he wishes his own son were never born. As someone with the same condition that Adam had, Mr. Lanza can’t blame himself for his son’s decision to murder children in cold blood. Us Aspies, we’re different to be sure and it can be hard as hell sometimes living in society but ultimately we’re allowed free will. Adam Lanza murdered children in Cold Blood. Your average Aspie just wants people to see him as a human being.

176 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:03:23pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

It actually angers me. I mean it’s one thing to me to think that the guy was defending himself- I strongly disagree- very much so - but this is ghoulish on both his and the autograph seekers part. If Zimmerman had any sense at all, he’d try not to appear like a callous ass.

His best buddy who acted as his advocate is a white supremacist.

His brother routinely derps stuff about blacks being thugs, if not outright racist stuff.

Odds are super good the Zimmerman is racist, and very proud of what he did on multiple levels.

(And yes, he’s part Peruvian. There are plenty of racists in South America)

177 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:04:58pm

OH MY —read down to understand the hashtag: #Gawkingatrapeculture

178 Kragar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:05:01pm

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

George Zimmerman appearance at Florida gun show draws blanks

Zimmerman, whose appearance was advertised on the New Orlando Gun Show Facebook page with, “Come on out and meet George Z! He’s here a few more hours. And no matter what you read, there are no protesters, lunatics or other varieties of a- clowns,” failed to draw many curiosity seekers.

Over the course of six hours, fewer than 20 people at the gun show asked for a free autographed photo of Zimmerman, who was situated in a rear office of The Arms Room gun store in Orlando.

179 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:05:26pm

re: #176 The Ghost of a Flea

His best buddy who acted as his advocate is a white supremacist.

His brother routinely derps stuff about blacks being thugs, if not outright racist stuff.

Odds are super good the Zimmerman is racist, and very proud of what he did on multiple levels.

(And yes, he’s part Peruvian. There are plenty of racists in South America)

Racists everywhere. The whole HE CAN’T BE A RACIST, HE’S HISPANIC! was absurd given that racism is never as simple as whites of European decent hating blacks while wearing a KKK mask.

181 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:06:27pm

re: #174 Lidane

Ah, Cato. I remember them. When I went through my libertarian phase in my 20’s I read this and this from David Boaz at Cato. I think I still have them in storage somewhere.

Haven’t read anything by him or from Cato in years, but at the time I remember liking those books. They had some interesting ideas. Impratical ideas, but interesting.

Some of their working papers have good history —at least when you are looking for perspective. I like to read all perspectives when trying to figures stuff out.

No more, They might has well just xerox Heritage publications.

182 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:08:57pm

re: #159 Gus

183 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:09:38pm

Hey FNB, you read All the Presidents Men didn’t ya? That’s my current read. Real interesting read. I can remember when I was a kid that my Dad as a guilty pleasure would listen to G. Gordon Liddy’s show on WJFK here in NoVa and it just amazes me that this guy never really became a pariah. Funny since the guy all these guys were willing to do everything for, Nixon looks like a bleeding heart not only compared to Obama but Clinton and Gore too on strictly policy. Yet you had the furthest of RWNJs like Buchanan coming out all angry when Felt was finally revealed to be Deepthroat. It’s odd. It’s also interesting reading about mid level CRP members who weren’t that older than I am now like Hugh Sloan.

184 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:13:26pm
Simpson said the owners told the dispatcher the cat has a history of violence. He said the cat remained with its owners.


I shit you not.

185 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:14:39pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Hey FNB, you read All the Presidents Men didn’t ya? That’s my current read. Real interesting read. I can remember when I was a kid that my Dad as a guilty pleasure would listen to G. Gordon Liddy’s show on WJFK here in NoVa and it just amazes me that this guy never really became a pariah. Funny since the guy all these guys were willing to do everything for, Nixon looks like a bleeding heart not only compared to Obama but Clinton and Gore too on strictly policy. Yet you had the furthest of RWNJs like Buchanan coming out all angry when Felt was finally revealed to be Deepthroat. It’s odd. It’s also interesting reading about mid level CRP members who weren’t that older than I am now like Hugh Sloan.

No, have only seen the movie.

I’m only up to the beginning of LBJ’s presidency in my non-fiction reading.

:)

186 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:16:15pm

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

No, have only seen the movie.

I’m only up to the beginning of LBJ’s presidency in my non-fiction reading.

:)

Ah okay. Going to re-watch the film when I’m done with this. It’s funny. I was taking journalism- my senior year of HS actually and we had watched the film in the fall and then Felt got revealed. Nixon’s admin and their hijinks fascinates me. This was obviously a capable guy who had a lot of deep rooted insecurity.

187 Kragar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:17:33pm

re: #182 Amory Blaine

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188 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:18:55pm

OMGOSH ! It’s a dog.

189 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:19:22pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Ah okay. Going to re-watch the film when I’m done with this. It’s funny. I was taking journalism- my senior year of HS actually and we had watched the film in the fall and then Felt got revealed. Nixon’s admin and their hijinks fascinates me. This was obviously a capable guy who had a lot of deep rooted insecurity.

he and LBJ both.

190 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:21:43pm

Well sleep time for me. Night peeps.

191 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:23:03pm
192 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:24:42pm

Woman accidentally joins search party looking for herself

193 TedStriker  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:34:49pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

More conservations with libertarians.
- So how do you feel about a woman’s right to choose?
- Abortion should always be banned
- But didn’t you say you were a libertarian, it shouldn’t be the government’s right to tell a woman what to do with her body
- It’s murder!
- But how can you complain about big government when you support the government telling a woman what to do with her own body
*crickets*

At that point, their heads explode like in Scanners.

At least, they should.

194 Ming  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:39:29pm

re: #178 Kragar

George Zimmerman appearance at Florida gun show draws blanks

My mind is boggled by the depth of the hatred inside anyone who would seek Zimmerman’s autograph. It’s so horrible, it’s not easy to find anything to compare it to. Maybe the celebrations you read about, after a suicide bomber detonates and takes a few Israelis with him? Unbelievable.

195 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:59:26pm

bbl

196 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:18:34pm

re: #194 Ming

My mind is boggled by the depth of the hatred inside anyone who would seek Zimmerman’s autograph.

What you ascribe to hatred is probably better explained through an odd combination of shallow affect, cynicism and apathy. They simply don’t have the same emotional reaction to the sheer impropriety of the situation that seems obvious to us.

Instead of seeing Zimmerman dry humping his grizzly fifteen minutes of fame for having stalked and killed an unarmed minor, a lot of those people probably just see a resalable item, a storytelling opportunity, or a side show curiosity.

197 Amory Blaine  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:19:17pm

Was Victoria Jackson at CPAC?

198 piratedan  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:20:36pm

re: #194 Ming

My mind is boggled by the depth of the hatred inside anyone who would seek Zimmerman’s autograph. It’s so horrible, it’s not easy to find anything to compare it to. Maybe the celebrations you read about, after a suicide bomber detonates and takes a few Israelis with him? Unbelievable.

it’s a twisted mindset but I can see how somebody who lives within the NRA/Fox News bubble could see it that way. Zimmerman was “standing up” against urban youths incursions into white suburban neighborhoods flaunting his lifestyle and not showing proper respect… you know, the old scared white guy vibe and the way that Faux and the NRA spun it, Zimmermann was everyman… doesn’t matter about his history and what the dispatcher said yada yada yada…

The same way that Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin speak for all women and Rush Limbaugh for OTC drug addicts and Mark Levin for anger management assholes… it’s projection of ones fears, amplified through the RW Media lens and now we have brave heroes like Donald Trump and Bobby Jindal and Rand Paul, speaking to us about TRUTH and how if gay people get married or if poor people get paid more that somehow, someway, it’ll be a death knell for AMEERIKUH!

199 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:20:40pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

More conservations with libertarians.
- So how do you feel about a woman’s right to choose?
- Abortion should always be banned
- But didn’t you say you were a libertarian, it shouldn’t be the government’s right to tell a woman what to do with her body
- It’s murder!
- But how can you complain about big government when you support the government telling a woman what to do with her own body
*crickets*

Also, it’s not murder. Murder happens to people, and people are self aware.

200 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:21:27pm

That’s true, I did. Without a moment’s hesitation.

201 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:23:25pm
202 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:25:28pm

Idiot dudebros on FB commenting on a story about Snowden think that his next big step is whistleblowing on Russia. Delusional doesn’t even begin to cover it.

203 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:30:20pm

re: #202 Lidane

Idiot dudebros on FB commenting on a story about Snowden think that his next big step is whistleblowing on Russia. Delusional doesn’t even begin to cover it.

I dare him to blow a whistle on Putin. He’d disappear in a heartbeat.

204 darthstar  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:32:06pm

205 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:40:12pm

re: #204 darthstar

I had a buddy who would play pranks like that: switch the push/pull signs on doors, the men/women signs over the restrooms, unplug keyboards and mice, just to see how people would react. This was before the days of Twitter and YouTube, so at least those poor souls don’t need to relive those moments forever more.

206 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:44:48pm

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi

Then again, even further back in time, there was Candid Camera. I’m sure those gags are still viewable somewhere in Internet-land.

207 klys  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:49:17pm

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi

One year, the senior prank at my high school was to rewire the sensor faucets in the bathroom so that when you put your hands under one, the water turned on for the other.

/yeah, I went to a nerd high school.

208 Lidane  Mon, Mar 10, 2014 10:59:51pm

Boyfriend is watching The Following on TiVo while I surf the web and listen to Spotify. I want to like this show. I really do. I think the premise and some of the characters are interesting. I just can’t get into any of Joe Carroll’s followers or any of the people from whatever other batshit crazy cult they’re featuring right now. I have zero fucks to give about any of them.

Oh well.

209 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 1:04:04am

Did you know you can attain jetlag in a Dodge minivan? It requires careful timezoning, and the proper use of the daylight savings shift.

210 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 2:47:06am

re: #50 simoom

About time. She should have been fired a long time ago over her DOJ hacking persecution fantasy and her anti-vax BS, but this will have to suffice:

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Is she going to work for First Look?

211 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 2:49:51am

re: #197 Amory Blaine

Was Victoria Jackson at CPAC?

She might be a bit too crazy even for CPAC. Yeah, I can believe it. Even for them.

212 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 2:50:31am

re: #201 darthstar

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Retire already. You’ve done enough damage in your lifetime, McCain.

213 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 3:21:02am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

We want to see our founders as almost secular saints. Ones incapable of malice or evil. Ones whose mistakes were merely because of the times they lived in. I am of the thought that we can admire what the FF’s did while looking critically at the past. I believe Obama got some heat from the right when he quoted THurgood Marshall as saying the Constittuion had flaws when it was written and you know what, both of them were absolutely right. It took 78 years after the writing of the Constitution to abolish slavery and 133 to give women the right to vote etc.

And even though people defend the use of “men” (as in “all men are created equal”), the FF really did mean that—all white, propertied men, which all of them were. I think they saw a “gentry” that could be built in this country to rival England’s—educated, wealthy, entitled, even to owning slaves—that is, until the “riff-raff” immigrants started arriving. People with the same backgrounds populated the entire east coast up to a certain point, the only difference being that the north was already starting to become centers of commerce, while the south was seen as more agrarian and was less populated, with its cotton and tobacco crops, and where slavery could be practiced far more freely for that kind of economy.

214 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 3:29:12am
215 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 3:41:24am

re: #214 Lidane

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That reminds me of being in the State Credit Union yesterday, talking to the 60-something woman in front of me who related that she was now eligible for her deceased husband’s Teamster pension—he was a trucker. I asked her if it still included health care coverage and she said it did. She said the best thing she ever did was not remarry after his death and was floored at the amt of the monthly retirement check. I told her, well, you should have a pretty comfortable retirement and she agreed. I also said something to the effect of, you see? Unions are great—but sometimes people don’t realize it until they see the real benefits they get from being a union member.

The demise of unions is going to really impoverish working people in this country. You shouldn’t have to have almost 20 yrs of schooling to get a decent paying job in the US, to make a living wage. Either our labor is valuable without a Ph.D or it isn’t. And if it isn’t, we’re totally fucked.

216 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:17:22am

re: #215 Justanotherhuman

My dad was another example of a union-hater who became a union-supporter. When he needed a heart operation and extended recuperation time, the union paid most of the bills and ensured he could keep his job. Workers need representatives to protect them from unfair employment practices. Unfortunately, news stories about high union boss salaries, corruption and associations with organized crime have given labor unions a bad reputation. The good that they do gets largely ignored.

217 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:17:47am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

They do that shit and then they say stupid shit like that one critic of 12 Years a Slave. By the way, you mentioned that you were reading the book. Did you find a kindle copy or print?

Print. I don’t own a Kindle.

219 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:33:13am

Somebody left a valentine in my Twitter timeline, so sweet.

220 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:39:41am

re: #216 wheat-dogghazi

My dad was another example of a union-hater who became a union-supporter. When he needed a heart operation and extended recuperation time, the union paid most of the bills and ensured he could keep his job. Workers need representatives to protect them from unfair employment practices. Unfortunately, news stories about high union boss salaries, corruption and associations with organized crime have given labor unions a bad reputation. The good that they do gets largely ignored.

Well, anyone who think the US is going to become a nation of educated elites is not thinking straight. Here is an educational achievement chart from the Census Bureau.

Image: 450px-Educational_Attainment_in_the_United_States_2009.png

We’re certainly graduating a lot more people from HS, but the number graduating from college hasn’t improved as much as you might think (probably due to 1 and 2 yr programs that can suffice for many jobs). Actually, as of 2012, only about 3% of the population achieve Ph.Ds, and almost 49% are women. It appears that a bachelor’s is probably sufficient for most jobs, except perhaps teaching, where a master’s is required. And there are those who argue against Ph.Ds, although those in the US wind up competing with foreign Ph.Ds (worldwide, the % attaining them is said to be around 12%).

cbsnews.com

I’d argue that it’s not the Ph.D that’s the problem, after all, when I was young, it took approximately 2, maybe 3 yrs of intense work to get a Ph.D, you could do it by age 25—it’s that universities don’t support those who enter the programs, the same as it is with all education in the US—education itself gets short shrift while administrators make their money, football teams get the lion’s share of funding, and rich donors get to build something on campus w/their names on them.

Even those who run our educational system too many times don’t respect it.

221 AntonSirius  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:44:20am

re: #62 Lidane

It’s worth noting that The Three Dudebros (Assange, Greenwald, and Snowden) weren’t keynote speakers.

Wherever there is injustice, you will find us cashing in.
Wherever there is suffering, we’ll be there, making vaguely sympathetic noises.
Wherever liberty is threatened*, you will find…

The ¡Three Dudebros!

* - Offer not valid outside continental US

222 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:46:53am

I have no idea who this person is, but she doesn’t really sound very bright.

223 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 4:59:48am

2-4” of snow predicted for tonight.

That blows.

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:00:54am
226 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:09:23am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That doesn’t make any sense. If he were an asylum seeker, why was he traveling on a stolen passport? And his mother already in Germany? If she is Iranian, too, couldn’t she have gotten asylum for her own kid? Yes, he might not have wanted to go with her, but still, it sounds a bit fishy. How, for instance, did he get to Thailand to steal the passport and how did he wind up in Malaysia?

227 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:11:46am

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

That doesn’t make any sense. If he were an asylum seeker, why was he traveling on a stolen passport? And his mother already in Germany? If she is Iranian, too, couldn’t she have gotten asylum for her own kid? Yes, he might not have wanted to go with her, but still, it sounds a bit fishy. How, for instance, did he get to Thailand to steal the passport and how did he wind up in Malaysia?

It’s a scam. He was going to travel on the stolen passport, sell it, then steal another one. He got caught, so now he’s an “asylum seeker.”

228 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:12:26am
229 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:13:53am

re: #227 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s a scam. He was going to travel on the stolen passport, sell it, then steal another one. He got caught, so now he’s an “asylum seeker.”

I’ve heard of that scam here in Europe; I don’t know how common it is, but having heard it mentioned when I lived in Germany, I would assume it’s not exactly something unprecedented.

230 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:13:55am

re: #227 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s a scam. He was going to travel on the stolen passport, sell it, then steal another one. He got caught, so now he’s an “asylum seeker.”

Well, now, both of them were “asylum seekers”…

231 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:15:00am

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

Well, now, both of them were “asylum seekers”…

If they weren’t caught, they’d be dishwashers or something.

232 122 Year Old Obama  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:15:02am

re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord

Somebody left a valentine in my Twitter timeline, so sweet.

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“Facts”. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means,

233 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:16:36am

Buy 3, Get 1 Free:

234 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:19:33am

re: #228 NJDhockeyfan

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This is the second egregious error made by an alleged “journalist” or “reporter” in 2 days now that I’ve had jump out at me.

“You reporters probably no more than me — if I knew, I would tell you.”

latimes.com

235 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:19:35am

Yes, that Billions with a ‘B’.

236 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:23:46am
237 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:24:08am

re: #227 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s a scam. He was going to travel on the stolen passport, sell it, then steal another one. He got caught, so now he’s an “asylum seeker.”

I linked to this story yesterday:
Thailand grapples with ‘massive’ fake passport racket

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said more than 60,000 passports - both Thai and foreign - were reported missing or stolen in Thailand between January 2012 and June 2013.

Police in Phuket said Maraldi reported his passport stolen in June last year, while Kozel’s passport was reported stolen in March 2012. Police said they get reports of up to 10 lost passports a month in the province.

Phuket police officer Angkarn Yasanop said foreigners can earn $200 to sell their passport and then report it stolen. Many lost or stolen passports end up with Thais and other Southeast Asians trying to migrate for work, he said.

Larry Cunningham, who recently retired as Australia’s honorary consul in Phuket, said a huge problem was tourists leaving passports as a deposit when renting jet-skis or motorbikes.

Crooked operators then make a false allegation of damage. The tourist, unwilling to pay, reports the passport stolen at an embassy on consulate and gets a new one. The old passport is sold on into the underworld.

238 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:24:15am

re: #235 NJDhockeyfan

Yes, that Billions with a ‘B’.

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Here’s the translation:

Hired the former head Mindohodov Oleksandr Klymenko British lawyers found 278 bank accounts in 26 countries that are associated with Yulia Tymoshenko and her family.

According to the London law firm Lawrence Graham, who conducted the investigation , 13 bank accounts established with Tymoshenko open to this day , says The Insependent.

In particular, was discovered in a London bank account in the name of the company United Energy Systems of Ukraine (UES), which was 40 million pounds.

The investigation against former Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, which was conducted in the United States in 2004 , U.S. prosecutors revealed UES accounts worldwide , including bank NatWest, registered in London Bridge. Amount was 40 million pounds in the name directed, recipients were given Lazarenko and Tymoshenko’s husband Oleksandr , says the article.

However, in 2004 the U.S. Supreme Court in the case dismissed all charges against Lazarenko , concerning his dealings with the EEC and Tymoshenko , citing a lack of evidence that would confirm them .

In turn, Yulia Tymoshenko’s lawyer Serhiy Vlasenko denied the presence of the foreign accounts of the former prime minister .

“This is an outright lie and lie … She has no property, no bills in the U.S., UK or Switzerland … We are quite friendly and open to talk to any one who wants to investigate us ,” - said Vlasenko.

He said the investigation was commissioned by Lawrence Graham Yanukovych regime to discredit Tymoshenko.

Recall that in November 2013 it was reported that the Ministry of income and charges Ukraine has hired a law firm Lawrence Graham for an investigation into the theft of $ 200 million in appropriation suspected group of people, including former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko and Lazarenko .

239 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:33:11am
240 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:34:20am

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

I’ve probably mentioned I work with two other foreign teachers here, music teachers from Luhansk, Ukraine. I asked them today whether they would return to China to teach next fall, and both said they probably would, considering the troubles at home now. Luhansk has seen some anti-Russian protests, but my friends said things are fairly peaceful otherwise there … so far.

I recall reading that Ukrainians have mixed feelings about Tymoshenko.

241 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:37:51am
242 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:38:52am

re: #240 wheat-dogghazi

I’ve probably mentioned I work with two other foreign teachers here, music teachers from Luhansk, Ukraine. I asked them today whether they would return to China to teach next fall, and both said they probably would, considering the troubles at home now. Luhansk has seen some anti-Russian protests, but my friends said things are fairly peaceful otherwise there … so far.

I recall reading that Ukrainians have mixed feelings about Tymoshenko.

Yes, they do have mixed feelings about her. She wasn’t well received at a public appearance after she was freed from jail. And has decided not to run for office in May’s elections. She is said to be pretty much like most Ukr oligarchs—made rich by the State and not her own efforts. After all, she married a Russian bureaucrat 30 yrs ago and they went into business together, first opening a string of video stores, iirc, then on to the oil and gas industry.

243 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:42:09am

FunnyOrDie Video

244 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:45:07am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

Unpossible! Everyone knows Putin is a manly man and Leader of the Free World! Obummer iz Hitler!

LIES! Snowden wouldn’t be in Russia if Putin was a bad guy!

245 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 5:48:18am

re: #243 Lidane

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That was absolutely side-splitting! POTUS has a keen sense of humor indeed.

246 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:05:32am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Overnight, it looks like the investigation into the MH370 disappearance has shifted away from terrorism, particularly looking at the persons with stolen passports. Interpol and Malaysian authorities are saying that they were persons seeking asylum elsewhere, not terrorists.

It doesn’t absolve the security lapses and failures to check all passports and travel documents against the Interpol database for stolen documents, but it adds another layer to the mystery of what happened.

Reports are also now indicating that the plane may have traveled for another hour after radar lost contact, which adds thousands of square miles to the search parameters, and which explains why the plane hasn’t been found to date.

And of course, the conspiracy nuts are out. Particularly logic-challenged is that there’s a conspiracy because family members have called cell phones of those on the plane, and they’ve rung. They’ve rung.

Oooookkayyyy (walking away slowly while calling for the padded rooms on speed dial).

I completely understand the families’ issues with the airlines and lack of information, but starting with conspiracy theories? Guess some people have to fill gaps in actual facts and logic with something, but that doesn’t mean we should let them fill the airwaves with the nonsense.

247 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:07:41am

heh…

248 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:07:44am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

That was absolutely side-splitting! POTUS has a keen sense of humor indeed.

He’s got good comic timing. Maybe he should consider a career in stand-up after he leaves office.
/ half

249 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:16:13am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

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Fairly representative of what most Czechs think of Putin.

250 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:16:37am

re: #246 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Overnight, it looks like the investigation into the MH370 disappearance has shifted away from terrorism, particularly looking at the persons with stolen passports. Interpol and Malaysian authorities are saying that they were persons seeking asylum elsewhere, not terrorists.

It doesn’t absolve the security lapses and failures to check all passports and travel documents against the Interpol database for stolen documents, but it adds another layer to the mystery of what happened.

Reports are also now indicating that the plane may have traveled for another hour after radar lost contact, which adds thousands of square miles to the search parameters, and which explains why the plane hasn’t been found to date.

And of course, the conspiracy nuts are out. Particularly logic-challenged is that there’s a conspiracy because family members have called cell phones of those on the plane, and they’ve rung. They’ve rung.

Oooookkayyyy (walking away slowly while calling for the padded rooms on speed dial).

I completely understand the families’ issues with the airlines and lack of information, but starting with conspiracy theories? Guess some people have to fill gaps in actual facts and logic with something, but that doesn’t mean we should let them fill the airwaves with the nonsense.

I’m not so sure they should segue from terrorism to stolen passports so quickly, though, since stolen passports have been used by terrorists in the past, even though it may turn out that they were, indeed, asylum seekers.

There are still 2 others with stolen passports unaccounted for, aren’t there? Of course, it still could be mechanical problems, but why did the plane travel on for another hour without any communications or transponder info?

251 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:16:42am
252 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:17:20am

re: #163 Lidane

My favorites are the “libertarians” that retweet and/or share every batshit pile of derp from National Review, The Blaze, and Heritage, as if those are bastions of libertarian thought.

No, you’re just a Republican who doesn’t want to admit you’re a Republican.

Too cheap to pay the dues?
:p

253 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:21:19am

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

Too cheap to pay the dues?
:p

“Libertarian” is nothing but a term used to describe Republicans that are embarrassed to be associated with mainstream Christianity.

254 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:22:28am

Greetings from the North Woods.
The #1 story on the news this AM from here is that there is a new stop sign.
I laughed so hard.
On a serious note.. Where the hell did Flight 370 go? A 777 jet doesn’t just vanish in thin air. Even if it crashed in the water wouldn’t there be a trace of the crash? Nothing.
My dad worked for the FAA for almost 33 years and I know something that always haunted him was talking to a pilot of a jet prior to crashing on approach. He always said taking off and landing was the most dangerous part of flying. Planes generally just don’t fall out the sky. It must have a horrible last moment for those poor souls.

255 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:23:23am

So, wide-spread reaction to the new Annie seems to be pretty consistent in complaining that she’s too black for the role. Related: The Hunger Games.

That’s okay though. There’s no racism in America anymore because a ni-CLANG- was elected to the white house!

256 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:24:19am

re: #255 GunstarGreen

So, wide-spread reaction to the new Annie seems to be pretty consistent in complaining that she’s too black for the role. Related: The Hunger Games.

That’s okay though. There’s no racism in America anymore because a ni-CLANG- was elected to the white house!

“Annie” always had an afro.

257 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:26:43am

Good grief, 40M stolen passports are out there…

voanews.com

258 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:27:02am

Prediction: Unless Alex Sink wins by 20 or more, the MSM and wingnut-o-sphere will claim this race was a bellwether race against Dems and referendum on Obamacare.

259 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:27:39am

re: #254 HoosierHoops

They have expanded the search zone to include land areas in Malaysia and Vietnam, which are mountainous and heavily forested, as there are no signs of the aircraft in the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam.

If the plane disintegrated at cruising altitude, parts of the plane could be widely scattered over hundreds of square kilometers.

260 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:30:44am

re: #259 wheat-dogghazi

They have expanded the search zone to include land areas in Malaysia and Vietnam, which are mountainous and heavily forested, as there are no signs of the aircraft in the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam.

If the plane disintegrated at cruising altitude, parts of the plane could be widely scattered over hundreds of square kilometers.

But if it happened over land, wouldn’t someone, somewhere have noticed? You would hear a sound, see a flash(es), something, even in mountainous areas. Hikers, shepherds, farmers, might come across debris.

261 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:36:33am

re: #255 GunstarGreen

So, wide-spread reaction to the new Annie seems to be pretty consistent in complaining that she’s too black for the role. Related: The Hunger Games.

That’s okay though. There’s no racism in America anymore because a ni-CLANG- was elected to the white house!

Didn’t Thor fans complain that Heimdall couldn’t possibly be black, because Norse myth?

And there were those who complained about the Wiz stomping on the all-white traditions of the Wizard of Oz.

And Daniel Craig not having black hair.

The great thing about myths and familiar characters like Annie or James Bond is that the characterization can transcend the physical attributes of the character. Some people just can’t make the leap from the concrete to the abstract, though.

262 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:38:29am

re: #260 Justanotherhuman

But if it happened over land, wouldn’t someone, somewhere have noticed? You would hear a sound, see a flash(es), something, even in mountainous areas. Hikers, shepherds, farmers, might come across debris.

The New Straits Times has an article today about some villagers being scared silly by a low flying jet about the time Flight MH370 would have been overhead. It was so loud, they thought it was a tsunami and they reported it to the police.

263 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:38:42am

re: #250 Justanotherhuman

It’s possible that there was a problem with the oxygen system, or a decompression that caused a loss of oxygen to crew/passengers, similar to a situation that happened to the plane that carried Payne Stewart years back.

Like you, I wouldn’t completely rule out terrorism as a cause, but investigators have a duty to look at all possibilities, and we’re still not at a point where we can look at the plane and its black boxes to see what happened.

264 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:41:07am

re: #258 Dr. Matt

Prediction: Unless Alex Sink wins by 20 or more, the MSM and wingnut-o-sphere will claim this race was a bellwether race against Dems and referendum on Obamacare.

Low voter turnout election whose outcome is going to be determined by who can GOTV better. I’d be surprised if they crack 30% turnout. But for anyone to extrapolate to general election conditions nationally? That’s skewed polling nuts.

265 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:41:38am

Wingnuts have this fantasy that everyone who voted for Obama has an “Obama/Biden” sticker on their vehicle. Then they build fantasies about a manager going through the parking lot of a building and “firing” every worker who displays an “Obama” sticker on his vehicle.

It’s all bullshit.

Most people do not display stickers on their vehicles. Even if a manager went around the parking lot, how would he even know who drove which vehicle?

I am so sick of this stupid meme.

266 Mattand  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:41:44am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi

Didn’t Thor fans complain that Heimdall couldn’t possibly be black, because Norse myth?

And there were those who complained about the Wiz stomping on the all-white traditions of the Wizard of Oz.

And Daniel Craig not having black hair.

The great thing about myths and familiar characters like Annie or James Bond is that the characterization can transcend the physical attributes of the character. Some people just can’t make the leap from the concrete to the abstract, though.

Let’s not forget the outrage over Michael Duncan Clarke playing the Kingpin in the Daredevil movie.

There’s a large swath of nerdom (comics and games in particular) whose unknowing introduction to white male privilege is usually when a role is cast for someone who isn’t Caucasian or male.

The new Fantastic Four movie is casting a black actor to play the Human Torch. Unfortunately, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

267 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:42:49am

re: #266 Mattand

Let’s not forget the outrage over Michael Duncan Clarke playing the Kingpin in the Daredevil movie.

There’s a large swath of nerdom (comics and games in particular) whose unknowing introduction to white male privilege is usually when one of the roles is cast for someone who isn’t Caucasian or male.

The new Fantastic Four movie is casting a black actor to play the Human Torch. Unfortunately, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

The Gatekeeper of Asgard in the Thor movies. There was much wingnut butthurt over that.

268 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:44:07am

re: #266 Mattand

There’s going to another F4 movie? If Jessica Alba won’t be in it, I’m not watching!
//

269 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:48:48am

Here is the link to the New Straits Times piece about villagers reporting a loud noise.
nst.com.my

Pulau Kapas is a small island off the east coast of Malaysia, under the flight path of the airliner.

270 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:50:22am

re: #268 wheat-dogghazi

Kate Mara will be Sue Storm. That’s Rooney Mara’s sister. I can live with that.

Michael B Jordan is going to be Human Torch. It’ll be interesting to see how they retcon that background story, which will definitely get some to complain about messing with the well established history of Sue and Johnny.

Me? I couldn’t care less. The original movies were meh but the best part of them was Chris Evans, who’s now moved on to headline the Captain America movies.

It couldn’t be any worse than the originals.

271 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:52:44am

re: #269 wheat-dogghazi

Here is the link to the New Straits Times piece about villagers reporting a loud noise.
nst.com.my

Pulau Kapas is a small island off the east coast of Malaysia, under the flight path of the airliner.

So it’s possible it crashed in the water outside Pulau Kapas or landed in a remote area.

272 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:55:12am

re: #270 lawhawk

Yeah, Sue and Johnny are supposedly siblings. Though, that can be changed at any time. Comic book continuity is remarkably fluid.

273 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:56:07am

re: #271 NJDhockeyfan

That also moves the plane back towards the Malaysian coastline.

274 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:57:21am

re: #272 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, half-siblings now.

Ooooooh… revolution in the ranks of comic book geeks. Someone break out the pitchforks and torches ///

275 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 6:59:11am

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

Also, it’s not murder. Murder happens to people, and people are self aware.

Exactly and comparing abortion to the Holocaust as they often do is also messed up. What does bug me though is if these people do strongly feel abortion is wrong, why not embrace things like teaching safe sex in schools or having programs for poor and or unwed mothers out. Though what gets me is how they act like women get abortions gleefully.

276 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:00:54am

re: #270 lawhawk

Kate Mara will be Sue Storm. That’s Rooney Mara’s sister. I can live with that.

Michael B Jordan is going to be Human Torch. It’ll be interesting to see how they retcon that background story, which will definitely get some to complain about messing with the well established history of Sue and Johnny.

Me? I couldn’t care less. The original movies were meh but the best part of them was Chris Evans, who’s now moved on to headline the Captain America movies.

It couldn’t be any worse than the originals.

Not a big comics guy but I do like Michael B. Jordan. Fruitvale Station was incredible.

277 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:02:04am

Aren’t their rumors that Idris Alba from Luther and The Wire may be considered as the next Bond? That one will definitely throw certain individuals into a shit fit.

278 Weet  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:03:51am
279 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:04:22am

re: #274 lawhawk

Yeah, half-siblings now.

Ooooooh… revolution in the ranks of comic book geeks. Someone break out the pitchforks and torches ///

Yup.

Comics are a generational thing. I grew up during the Silver Age, and those stories and “traditions” are burned in my memory. I gave up following the comics after junior high, and I tell you, trying to catch up on developments in the comic world since the Bronze Age is well nigh impossible. There have been multiple retcons, reboots and retellings. Makes my head swim.

So, changing stuff for a movie is nothing new.

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:07:06am
281 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:11:05am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Aren’t their rumors that Idris Alba from Luther and The Wire may be considered as the next Bond? That one will definitely throw certain individuals into a shit fit.

That’d be a huge get for Elba.

He’s also expressed an interest in being in a reboot of Green Lantern.

I think he’d be successful either way.

He can definitely do brooding, dark, and damaging - see his body of work in Luthur. He can command the screen, and definitely could fill the shoes of James Bond or any character shown his way.

And of course throw the usual suspects into a tizzy.

282 darthstar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:11:19am

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283 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:11:48am

re: #278 Weet

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The Intercept as editor-in-chief! We will be adding more women and people of color as soon as the real hires are done.

284 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:12:41am

re: #281 lawhawk

That’d be a huge get for Elba.

He’s also expressed an interest in being in a reboot of Green Lantern.

I think he’d be successful either way.

He can definitely do brooding, dark, and damaging - see his body of work in Luthur. He can command the screen, and definitely could fill the shoes of James Bond or any character shown his way.

And of course throw the usual suspects into a tizzy.

Yeah I got recommended Luther. Gonna check that out.

285 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:12:42am

Oh fuck. Parody account. This is bullshit.

286 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:12:59am

re: #283 Gus

The Intercept as editor-in-chief! We will be adding more women and people of color >as soon as the real hires are done.

I saw that too. Real hires, as opposed to imaginary ones? Virtual hires?

287 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:15:20am

re: #281 lawhawk

Oh! Rebooting Green Lantern, too? Maybe Hollywood could try, you know, originality for a change.

Still waiting for a Wonder Woman movie, though.

If Idris were GL, would he be the Hal Jordan version or the John Stewart version?

288 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:18:54am

I’ve been wanting Hollywood to make a version of Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises. They had a silent version and a version in the 50’s in which the actors playing the characters were far too old for their roles. I also read a great book a couple years back about the hunt for Eichmann after WWII and I think that would make a cool thriller.

289 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:19:21am

re: #287 wheat-dogghazi

John Stewart.

290 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:20:35am

==Coffee==

291 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:24:01am

re: #289 lawhawk

John Stewart.

That would appeal to a different viewing audience than boomers like me, which is a good thing. Stewart is from the ’80s, IIRC. I do wish the Hal Jordan flick hadn’t been such a turkey, though.

DC has expanded the entire Lantern concept so much, they could produce a stream of movies just from that one franchise.

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:27:52am

re: #291 wheat-dogghazi

That would appeal to a different viewing audience than boomers like me, which is a good thing. Stewart is from the ’80s, IIRC. I do wish the Hal Jordan flick hadn’t been such a turkey, though.

DC has expanded the entire Lantern concept so much, they could produce a stream of movies just from that one franchise.

Does Jon Stewart have the green ring and Stephen Colbert the yellow one?

Would be some epic TV on Comedy Central as they duke it out.

293 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:31:03am

re: #282 darthstar

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haha saw that on the continuous loop last night. Another famous Florida man.

294 b.d.  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:32:25am

Breaking News CNN banner:

Senate Intelligence Chair Dianne Feinstein accuses CIA of searching panel’s computers without authorization.

updated 10:24 AM EDT, Tue March 11, 2014

cnn.com

295 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:37:15am

First was the application full of hopeful anticipation:

Then the crushing defeat:

296 A Mom Anon  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:38:25am

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

I read this over the weekend. Heartbreaking. What sucks is that no one is really being held responsible. But what I do hope is that maybe this, and sadly, the many more stories like it, will alert the public that we have a civic duty to check on these programs and voice our concerns.

I’m also not sure I can ever eat turkey again…

297 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:39:49am

re: #264 lawhawk

Low voter turnout election whose outcome is going to be determined by who can GOTV better. I’d be surprised if they crack 30% turnout. But for anyone to extrapolate to general election conditions nationally? That’s skewed polling nuts.

It’s already started. The librul MSNBC was clamoring last night that a Sink loss or near win would be a referendum against O-care.

And this: Welcome to Obamacare’s Ground Zero, and this, and this, and this…..

298 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:41:11am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Good grief, 40M stolen passports are out there…

voanews.com

Because of Obama’s weak foreign policy…..

///

299 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:41:56am

re: #265 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts have this fantasy that everyone who voted for Obama has an “Obama/Biden” sticker on their vehicle. Then they build fantasies about a manager going through the parking lot of a building and “firing” every worker who displays an “Obama” sticker on his vehicle.

It’s all bullshit.

Most people do not display stickers on their vehicles. Even if a manager went around the parking lot, how would he even know who drove which vehicle?

I am so sick of this stupid meme.

Petty, childish revenge fantasy propagated by and for petty children.

As a human that has at least one ounce of self-respect, I would never work for the kind of choad that would do, or even fantasize about, something like that in the first place.

300 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:42:02am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

Because of Obama’s weak foreign policy…..

///

Putin posed on the horse because of Obama’s weak foreign policy.//

301 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:42:56am

re: #294 b.d.

cnn.com

Breaking News CNN banner:

Senate Intelligence Chair Dianne Feinstein accuses CIA of searching panel’s computers without authorization.

updated 10:24 AM EDT, Tue March 11, 2014

Isn’t it ironic?

Youtube Video

302 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:43:29am

re: #299 GunstarGreen

Petty, childish revenge fantasy propagated by and for petty children.

As a human that has at least one ounce of self-respect, I would never work for the kind of choad that would do, or even fantasize about, something like that in the first place.

It’s stupid too. Oh you fired all the employees that voted for Obama? Great you have to hire a bunch of people, verify that they did not either, and retrain them to fix the void lost when you fired all the Obama voting employees. Yet people who have this fantasy think they are the producers and us liberals are the moochers.

303 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:47:22am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Like I said, a revenge fantasy. Nobody actually does it, because anybody that has enough smarts to run a business that isn’t failing miserably knows that they can’t afford to lose such large numbers of staff over such a stupid reason. Nobody that propagates this idea runs any sort of business. They pretend they do for the radio audience, but that’s all it is. See also: The guy that runs some shitty little kiosk in the local mall talking about ‘going galt’. Fancies himself a ‘producer’ because he sells chotchkies out of a cart.

304 Mattand  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:48:18am

re: #270 lawhawk

Kate Mara will be Sue Storm. That’s Rooney Mara’s sister. I can live with that.

Michael B Jordan is going to be Human Torch. It’ll be interesting to see how they retcon that background story, which will definitely get some to complain about messing with the well established history of Sue and Johnny.

Me? I couldn’t care less. The original movies were meh but the best part of them was Chris Evans, who’s now moved on to headline the Captain America movies.

It couldn’t be any worse than the originals.

Eh, I don’t have the hate for the previous two FF movies that a lot of people have. Don’t get me wrong; they have their problems. Their handling of Dr. Doom was by far one of the worst transitions of a character from comic to screen I’ve seen.

And while I get the director’s reasoning, turning Galactus in a a giant cloud in the sequel bugged me to no end. I want a 100 foot purple-armored giant, dammit!

305 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:50:10am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Putin posed on the horse because of Obama’s weak foreign policy.//

NOT The Onion: Fox’s Ablow Blames Obama’s Psychology For Russian Invasion Of Crimea

306 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:50:40am

Apparently we’ve reached the hysteria stage for flight MH370.

307 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:50:59am

re: #303 GunstarGreen

Like I said, a revenge fantasy. Nobody actually does it, because anybody that has enough smarts to run a business that isn’t failing miserably knows that they can’t afford to lose such large numbers of staff over such a stupid reason. Nobody that propagates this idea runs any sort of business. They pretend they do for the radio audience, but that’s all it is. See also: The guy that runs some shitty little kiosk in the local mall talking about ‘going galt’. Fancies himself a ‘producer’ because he sells chotchkies out of a cart.

Yeah true, just a stupid fantasy.

308 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:52:15am

re: #305 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Fox’s Ablow Blames Obama’s Psychology For Russian Invasion Of Crimea

Did Keith Ablow blame Bush’s psychology for the Russian invasion of South Georgia or was he too busy applying this pre-school psychology on people who criticized Bush? Really the crap Ablow and many on FNC do borders on the propaganda from some of the worst regimes you’ll see.

309 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:55:08am

Honestly though, shit like that is one of my major problems with the Republican party and its base. I can respect people that I disagree with ideologically, as long as they conduct themselves like decent adults. I’ve got a number of good friends/coworkers with whom I disagree significantly on things like gun laws, but there is still mutual respect despite the disagreement.

Joe/Jane Q. Republican, though? These are full-grown adults, in their 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s, conducting themselves like freaking children. Behaving in a manner that would be embarrassing to see on an elementary school playground, let alone amongst supposed adults. I could never support a party that so willingly embraces degenerates that refuse to act their own age.

310 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:55:58am

Fukushima ate flight MH370.

311 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:56:49am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Yeah true, just a stupid fantasy.

Wingnuts get very butthurt when you fuck with their beloved memes.

For example, that really lame Photoshop of the Columbia ID which was taken from a German guy’s 1998 ID, whoever made the Photoshop job didn’t even bother to change the ID number!

And this Syrian atrocity photo which gets spammed around as BENGHAZI!!!!!

312 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:58:47am

At least the font for the SWSX image is in appropriate dudebro font.

313 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 7:58:53am

Hm. It’s 11 pm, and I am suddenly hungry. Time to see what I can find in the kitchen.

bbiab

314 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:00:03am
315 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:00:13am

Monsanto GMO corn on-board flight MH370 dissolved the wiring.

316 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:00:28am

re: #311 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts get very butthurt when you fuck with their beloved memes.

For example, that really lame Photoshop of the Columbia ID which was taken from a German guy’s 1998 ID, whoever made the Photoshop job didn’t even bother to change the ID number!

And this Syrian atrocity photo which gets spammed around as BENGHAZI!!!!!

Oops! But yeah they’re idiots and you do a thankless job dealing with them on TWitter.

317 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:01:55am

Teabaggers rather die than admit they are wrong. So be it.

Star of anti-Obamacare ad refuses to accept proof that ACA will save her money

The Michigan woman who starred in an anti-Obamacare flatly refused to believe that she would actually save money under the policy. The Detroit News informed Julie Boonstra Monday that according to their research, she would actually save more than $1,000 a year under the Affordable Care Act — also known as Obamacare.

Saying it “can’t be true,” Boonstra told the News, “I personally do not believe that.”

318 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:02:36am

re: #309 GunstarGreen

Honestly though, shit like that is one of my major problems with the Republican party and its base. I can respect people that I disagree with ideologically, as long as they conduct themselves like decent adults. I’ve got a number of good friends/coworkers with whom I disagree significantly on things like gun laws, but there is still mutual respect despite the disagreement.

Joe/Jane Q. Republican, though? These are full-grown adults, in their 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s, conducting themselves like freaking children. Behaving in a manner that would be embarrassing to see on an elementary school playground, let alone amongst supposed adults. I could never support a party that so willingly embraces degenerates that refuse to act their own age.

Right, it’s one thing to me if you think Obama is wrong and you give me reasons behind it but I swear every speaker at CPAC this weekend engaged in shallow anti-Obama conspiracies that McCarthy would have found too far fetched. It doesn’t help also that the Republican Party leadership and machinery has tied itself to some very nasty people and yet they want to cry whenever they’re criticized and make the left out to be bullies. Sorry guys, you can’t tie your lot to Rush Limbaugh, Tony Perkins, and others and cry when you’re called out.

319 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:02:47am

Someone should explain to this idiot how the Debt Ceiling works.

320 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:02:57am


Really? No shit.

321 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:03:22am

re: #310 Gus

Smokey the Smoke Monster did. On the Island. With the Hatch. And flight details for Malaysian Air MH370 are too similar to Oceanic 815 to be a coincidence. /

322 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:04:29am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Teabaggers rather die than admit they are wrong. So be it.

See, that’s the saddest thing. Your average Republican and Obama hater will benefit from his policies far more than will be hurt. But yet they’ve been convinced by people who will be fine ACA or no ACA that ACA will ruin them and that’s the tragedy.it’s not the ignorance. It’s the fact that they’re shooting themselves in the foot doing the bidding of people who could give two shits about them and their families and just want their votes/money because of anti-Obama crap.

323 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:06:56am

re: #319 Pie-onist Overlord

Forget it, he’s off in Germans bombed Pearl Harbor territory (both in who’s saying it and the target audience).

The annual deficits are coming down at a rapid clip, because of reduced spending at a rate faster than any time since the demobilization after WWII, and the rate of the national debt rising is slowing as a result.

As a percentage of GNP, the debt is also shrinking. Those are good signs. Getting some of these costs under control are a good thing, but the GOP has no interest in doing so in a responsible manner. They’d much rather shred the safety net, destroy health care, and foist all those costs on to the individual whose boostraps are being dragged down by GOP policies than fixing the problems with those programs.

324 b.d.  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:08:22am

re: #301 Political Atheist

Isn’t it ironic?

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Love the hyperbolic bs in the DailyKos front paged post

Perhaps now Feinstein knows how the rest of America feels finding out that the NSA has been sucking up all our cellphone data without warrants, without cause, and without informing us it was happening. Maybe now she’ll join the club of those of us who are concerned about how our intelligence agencies have violated the Constitution.

dailykos.com

And this petition added on is a good catch all because the NSA and the CIA are the same thing, right?

Sign the petition: Rein in the NSA, don’t expand their powers

325 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:09:14am

re: #321 lawhawk

Smokey the Smoke Monster did. On the Island. With the Hatch. And flight details for Malaysian Air MH370 are too similar to Oceanic 815 to be a coincidence. /

I suspect flight MH370 might be in the same place they put Vince Foster. Also, Benghazi.

326 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:10:09am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

See, that’s the saddest thing. Your average Republican and Obama hater will benefit from his policies far more than will be hurt. But yet they’ve been convinced by people who will be fine ACA or no ACA that ACA will ruin them and that’s the tragedy.it’s not the ignorance. It’s the fact that they’re shooting themselves in the foot doing the bidding of people who could give two shits about them and their families and just want their votes/money because of anti-Obama crap.

In short: They continue to vote against their best interests.

327 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:10:19am

*facepalm*

Missing MH370: Don’t rely on Google Maps to search for plane, says Google

Reminds me of the “journalist” that asked the director of Gravity what it was like to film in space.

328 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:10:37am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

If I personally believe it to not be true than it isn’t true and I know because I haven’t done the research!!1111

329 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:10:46am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

In short: They continue to vote against their best interests.

Yep.

330 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:10:46am

Flight MH370 crashed but is missing because NWO government are covering it up in order to keep the chemtrails chemicals a secret.

331 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:11:25am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Teabaggers rather die than admit they are wrong. So be it.

It’s not about facts. It’s about feels. Thus is Republicanism.

332 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:11:39am

Flight MH370 is missing because the Juice run the world.

333 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:15:04am

And thanks to idiots & constipated conspiracy kooks, NPR had to run this ‘Ringing’ Phones Do Not Mean Malaysian Passengers Are OK

Already heartbreaking images of grieving family and friends only become more poignant when you hear this:

Some family members and friends of the 239 people who haven’t been heard from since Malaysia Airlines flight 370 disappeared Saturday say they’ve been calling their loved ones’ cellphones and hearing rings — though no one picked up the calls.
Could those rings be a sign, they wonder, that the phones are still working — which in turn could mean that the people they belong to are safe?

Sadly, the rings are not evidence that the worst hasn’t happened.

Ludicrous that such a story should need to be filed about something as basic as to modern living as a cell phone. Of course there are those who make their living inflicting these kinds of conspiracies on people…

334 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:15:31am

What’s funny I remember right wingers throwing out LIBERALS ARE OVER EMOTIONAL AND HYSTERICAL WHILE US CONSERVATIVES USE ONLY LOGIC AND REASON TO REACT. Could have fooled me seeing all these CPAC speeches where pretty much all the speakers went out of their way to tell the audience that Barack Obama was out to get them. But I guess that’s the proble with conservatives. They have this really self-inflated image of what conservatism is and they think conservatism has all the answers. I don’t think liberalism is always right. It just happens to what I subscribe to most since I think liberalism understands society better than conservatism given that we do best as a society when we think outside the status quo.

335 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:16:37am

re: #333 William Barnett-Lewis

And thanks to idiots & constipated conspiracy kooks, NPR had to run this ‘Ringing’ Phones Do Not Mean Malaysian Passengers Are OK

Ludicrous that such a story should need to be filed about something as basic as to modern living as a cell phone. Of course there are those who make their living inflicting these kinds of conspiracies on people…

There’s a special place for people like Alex Jones who use these tragedies to push conspiracies. Telling you if I had been a parent at Newtown, it would have been very tempting to want to punch that guy in the jaw after the shit he said.

336 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:20:09am

re: #333 William Barnett-Lewis

And thanks to idiots & constipated conspiracy kooks, NPR had to run this ‘Ringing’ Phones Do Not Mean Malaysian Passengers Are OK

Ludicrous that such a story should need to be filed about something as basic as to modern living as a cell phone. Of course there are those who make their living inflicting these kinds of conspiracies on people…

Whew. Thank you.

337 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:21:22am

Derp. Calls a relayed. They’re forwarded. They’re going to freaking ring sometimes while being routed.

338 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:22:32am

re: #333 William Barnett-Lewis

And thanks to idiots & constipated conspiracy kooks, NPR had to run this ‘Ringing’ Phones Do Not Mean Malaysian Passengers Are OK

Ludicrous that such a story should need to be filed about something as basic as to modern living as a cell phone. Of course there are those who make their living inflicting these kinds of conspiracies on people…

As technology becomes more and more of an ubiquitous facet of life, fewer and fewer people will actually understand how the technology that runs their life works.

In the beginning, with a new technology, the buy-in is from people that have a deep interest in it. There aren’t repair and troubleshooting places on every corner to figure out what’s wrong with it for you, so you have to learn to do that yourself. You take a vested interest in the technology for its own sake, you learn how it works, and so on.

As it becomes more ubiquitous, Joe/Jane Average start to get a hold of it. They do not know how it works, nor do they care to learn — they just want it because everyone has one and you HAVE to have it these days. Repair shops start cropping up. If your Newfangled Thingy is broken you just take it to the store and get it fixed, or buy a new one. There is no longer any requirement to understand it before you can use it. It’s made more user-friendly, until one day, you have a society of people all using things that none of them understands the workings of.

This is one of two major reasons that I went into computing as a profession (the other being that I just really, deeply love computers and making them work for me). Other professions will come and go, but we will always need people that can tell our machines how to do what we want them to do.

339 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:22:46am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

There’s a special place for people like Alex Jones who use these tragedies to push conspiracies. Telling you if I had been a parent at Newtown, it would have been very tempting to want to punch that guy in the jaw after the shit he said.

I’m afraid to ask, but has Jones already turned it into a conspiracy?

*Dumb question…..I know*

340 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:22:52am

It’s just annoying. Plane crash, school shooting, act of terror, etc someone out there has to make a conspiracy out of it. Someone has to question what happened because the conspiracy business is more lucrative than just accepting that nasty shit happens.

341 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:23:27am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

I’m afraid to ask, but has Jones already turned it into a conspiracy?

*Dumb question…..I know*

I’m pretty sure but don’t quote me on that. He was on the Boston Marathon very quickly.

342 Weet  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:23:37am

I’ve been following the Malaysian plane story closely. (I usually do when big airliners crash/go missing. I also participated in the online search for Steve Fossett using satellite data years ago,)

Now, I’m giving up. The people in charge over there — I don’t want to say they’re incompetent or purposefully hiding information, but something odd is going on.

They’re now telling us that the 2:40am radar time came from west of the mainland, from a military radar at Pulau Perak (a small island), and so they are checking the Malacca Straight. Oh, and those 5 people who did not board, but their luggage was removed? Now, it was only 4 and there was no luggage. Over the weekend I watched the head authority in the press conference say that they had removed the luggage.

If you are interested in details of these ‘changes’, scan these short articles:

Reuters (today)
Malaysia Airlines on the luggage
Yahoo/Malaysiakini
Plane Talking (Australia)

Note: “Local Police at Khota Bharu confirmed a number of locals reported lights and a low flying aircraft at Khota Bharu at an estimated height of 1000 meters/3000 feet.”

If true, the lights were on so they had electricity, and they were flying very low.

343 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:25:09am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

They’re on it. Not fully formed, but the nucleus of a conspiracy theory is forming around … something.

Don’t worry, that’s a google search link.

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:25:11am

re: #337 Gus

Derp. Calls a relayed. They’re forwarded. They’re going to freaking ring sometimes while being routed.

The carrier send a tone to the transmitting phone until the receiving phone connects. This tone does not correspond to “ringing” at the other end, although people are conditioned to believe that it does.

Sadly even educated people believe this myth. When Zedushka got his new smartphone, he was amazed that his voice mail box was already set up. I had to explain that the voice mail is linked to his t-mobile account, not to his specific phone.

345 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:26:07am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I’m pretty sure but don’t quote me on that. He was on the Boston Marathon very quickly.

Ugh. I wish I didn’t read this (From Infowars…beware): Disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 begins to demand supernatural explanations

346 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:26:53am

re: #345 Dr. Matt

Ugh. I wish I didn’t read this (From Infowars): Disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 begins to demand supernatural explanations

I’m not going to read that. It’s too early for me to start drinking today. Yikes though.

347 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:32:51am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Exactly and comparing abortion to the Holocaust as they often do is also messed up. What does bug me though is if these people do strongly feel abortion is wrong, why not embrace things like teaching safe sex in schools or having programs for poor and or unwed mothers out. Though what gets me is how they act like women get abortions gleefully.

women are not supposed to have sex outside of marriage and for any other reason than procreation. women who do otherwise are sluts and deserve to be shamed and punished.

and every conception is a miracle wrought by the lord, even if it is through violent or incestuous rape.

/

348 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:35:19am
349 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:49:19am

Morning all!

350 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:49:22am

re: #321 lawhawk

Smokey the Smoke Monster did. On the Island. With the Hatch. And flight details for Malaysian Air MH370 are too similar to Oceanic 815 to be a coincidence. /

Mothra. Case closed.

RBS

351 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:53:24am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

The carrier send a tone to the transmitting phone until the receiving phone connects. This tone does not correspond to “ringing” at the other end, although people are conditioned to believe that it does.

Sadly even educated people believe this myth. When Zedushka got his new smartphone, he was amazed that his voice mail box was already set up. I had to explain that the voice mail is linked to his t-mobile account, not to his specific phone.

Yea… that one got me too…. Old thought patterns are hard to erase.

RBS

352 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:54:27am

How an airliner can indeed just disappear….

Debunks some wrong ideas people have like non stop radar coverage etc.

I think the idea that ocean transit flights should send constant real time telemetry to a sat link is gaining ground.

353 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:57:16am

NO YOU FREAKING MORON.
HURR HURR!!!!!

It’s really annoying when people complain about their pay, while wanting to do nothing to make themselves more marketable, don’t want to work harder, just want to make more money so they can buy stuff and a lifestyle they didn’t do anything to deserve…

354 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:58:25am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

NO YOU FREAKING MORON.

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Libertarian sociopath says “starve you poor scum”

355 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:58:29am

re: #352 Political Atheist

How an airliner can indeed just disappear….

Debunks some wrong ideas people have like non stop radar coverage etc.

I think the idea that ocean transit flights should send constant real time telemetry to a sat link is gaining ground.

The technology has been available, but the industry has balked because of the additional costs involved. Profit margins on air travel are pretty slim, after all. It would take pressure from regulatory agencies to make this kind of technology common.

356 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:59:52am

Something fun instead… Dylan Cat!

357 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:00:16am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Yeah I got recommended Luther. Gonna check that out.

It’s an amazing show. I never watched ‘The Wire,’ so it was my first exposure to Elba. He kicks ass throughout.

358 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:00:28am

re: #354 William Barnett-Lewis

Libertarian sociopath says “starve you poor scum”

HURR HURR IF YOUR NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY THEN GET A BETTER JRRB, GET MOAR SKILLZ & MAKE URSELF MOAR VALUABEL TO TEH JRRNB CREATERS!!!!!

BUT U WORK IN A BAKERY & U DON’T WANT TO MAKE TEH GAY WEDDING CAKE, U DON’T HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER JRRB JUST MAKE THOZE GHEYS FIND ANOTHER BAKERY HURR HURR!!!!!!!

359 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:01:39am

360 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:04:25am

Rep. Kyle Tasker: ‘50,000 battered women and I still eat mine plain’

361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:04:30am

re: #359 FemNaziBitch

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That baby is happy! It’s gonna get a lovingly packed brown-bag lunch and not a soul-less government handout!

362 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:05:36am

I found another way companies are screwing people. Don’t know if this just applies to insurance cos, or just to the “elderly”, but Hartford tried to soak me for another couple of days’ coverage on the car I no longer want covered since I have another one and it’s been added (as of yesterday) to my policy.

I know it’s not very much money, just a few dollars, but think of all the millions of customers they probably have (I got mine years ago through AARP of which I’m no longer a member).

Finally got the clerk to remove the damned car from my policy today. They were going to leave it on until tomorrow, and collect another addtl day (2, actually) of coverage. I told her I had been insured for many years, and had always had a vehicle removed by the end of the business day in days past. What was the problem? It shouldn’t matter to them what I do with it. I’m not driving it any longer. If I did, and got caught w/no insurance on it, that would be my problem, not theirs.

“Oh, we just want to make sure the vehicle is covered.” Right…

What they really want is to make sure their own asses are covered.

363 ericblair  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:06:33am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

The carrier send a tone to the transmitting phone until the receiving phone connects. This tone does not correspond to “ringing” at the other end, although people are conditioned to believe that it does.

Sadly even educated people believe this myth. When Zedushka got his new smartphone, he was amazed that his voice mail box was already set up. I had to explain that the voice mail is linked to his t-mobile account, not to his specific phone.

In a landline to mobile or mobile to mobile call, the call request eventually gets to a controller in the target’s home network, which sends a “trying” and/or “ringing” message back to the caller’s network. This starts the ringing tone on the caller. Then the target’s system tries to find the target device by searching its registries and paging the cells where the target mobile was last attached, which could be in another network in another country.

If you’re calling a mobile and getting a ring on your end, that means that you’ve been able to communicate with the core network of the other person’s network. From only a phone, you can’t tell whether the mobile device is actually ringing or whether the network’s just still trying to find it.

I’d assume that some people on the flight did have their phones on (well out of range of cell service), and the local mobile networks can tell where the phones last made contact with a base station, but I doubt it would tell the investigators much.

364 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:07:14am

365 Bear  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:07:38am

I have been tracking a friend on his trip around South America via ship. His personal tracking unit can send a position every 10 minutes and I understand much shorter position report is available for aircraft if allowed.

The unit is not that expensive.

366 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:08:00am

I suppose Pat would know this first hand…

367 ericblair  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:08:36am

Oops.

368 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:08:59am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pat Robertson warns watching horror movies could lead to demonic possession and car accidents

Not to mention 360° rotating heads and spewing pea soup…

369 De Kolta Chair  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:11:43am

It’s apt that “Russia” is in the lower right hand corner, in the same way a painter signs their work.

370 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:13:47am

Update: Julia Boonstra’s claim her Obamacare plan is ‘unaffordable’ gets downgraded to Three Pinocchios

one cannot claim that a plan is “unaffordable” when over the course of the year it will provide you with substantial savings. Thus we are changing the rating on this ad from Two Pinocchios to Three Pinocchios.

371 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:15:24am

re: #364 FemNaziBitch

Issa just released another report, singling out Lerner and claiming she lied to the Committee.

Mind you, that the original TIGTA report was at the insistence of Issa, and the scope was limited by that so as to ignore that the IRS gave scrutiny to all entities seeking nonprofit status, not just conservative ones.

IRC 501(c)(4) was being abused by entities seeking nonprofit status, but which were political in nature. The IRS is required to prevent that abuse, and doesn’t have the funds to check every entity, so they used rules that tried to prevent abuse. Issa focuses solely on the conservative entities, and ignores the liberal ones that tried to improperly obtain the nonprofit status.

We’d just have to ignore that the “scandal” is that there’s all these entities seeking nonprofit status who aren’t supposed to, and the IRS is supposed to be catching them in the act, but Issa wants to punish the IRS for doing its job.

372 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:15:30am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

NO YOU FREAKING MORON.
HURR HURR!!!!!

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For about four years, I lived in a studio apartment in a decent part of town. Not extravagant by any means whatsoever. Now, ‘studio’ is a slight misnomer because it actually had walls and defined rooms, but it was the dimensions of a studio with just a tiny ‘living room’, bedroom, bathroom and kitchen area. 588 square feet.

When I was renting, it was $750 a month. During my residence it went up to $850 a month. That’s $10,200 a year. Now let’s assume you work a full-time job at minimum wage. 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, you never take any vacation or have any sick days or anything — you’re a pretty damn hard worker. Federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, so at 2,080 hours a year that’s $15,080 before taxes.

So, let’s be generous and say that you pay no taxes whatsoever (MOOCHERZ!!!11!11!!1!! 50% DUN PAY NO TAXEZ!!11!11!!!!11). You’ve got $5,000 a year for food, gas and utilities. That would be nigh-impossible to pull off for a single person, let alone one with children to worry about.

Somebody has to do these jobs. It can’t all be children. The math doesn’t work.

373 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:17:10am

re: #370 Killgore Trout

Update: Julia Boonstra’s claim her Obamacare plan is ‘unaffordable’ gets downgraded to Three Pinocchios

“I’ll take ‘The Sad State Of Political Ads’ for a thousand please, Alex”

374 Pie-onist Overlord  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:17:42am

re: #372 GunstarGreen

For about four years, I lived in a studio apartment in a decent part of town. Not extravagant by any means whatsoever. Now, ‘studio’ is a slight misnomer because it actually had walls and defined rooms, but it was the dimensions of a studio with just a tiny ‘living room’, bedroom, bathroom and kitchen area. 588 square feet.

When I was renting, it was $750 a month. During my residence it went up to $850 a month. That’s $10,200 a year. Now let’s assume you work a full-time job at minimum wage. 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, you never take any vacation or have any sick days or anything — you’re a pretty damn hard worker. Federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, so at 2,080 hours a year that’s $15,080 before taxes.

So, let’s be generous and say that you pay no taxes whatsoever (MOOCHERZ!!!11!11!!1!! 50% DUN PAY NO TAXEZ!!11!11!!!!11). You’ve got $5,000 a year for food, gas and utilities. That would be nigh-impossible to pull off for a single person, let alone one with children to worry about.

Somebody has to do these jobs. It can’t all be children. The math doesn’t work.

HURR HURR ALL TEH MINIMUM WAGE JRRBS IS 4 TEENAGERS LIVIN AT HOME WHO JUST NEEDS SOME SPENDIN MONEYS 4 TEH MALT SHOPPE!!!!!!

OK genius so explain why Walmart & McD are open during school hours.

375 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:19:00am

re: #371 lawhawk

We’d just have to ignore that the “scandal” is that there’s all these entities seeking nonprofit status who aren’t supposed to, and the IRS is supposed to be catching them in the act, but Issa wants to punish the IRS for doing its job.

Issa knows that at some point or other, nearly everybody has wanted to see the IRS punished for doing its job, which is collecting taxes from us.

376 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:19:42am

If all airlines were required to install GPS tracking units, it would not only improve the ability to track aircraft in these kinds of situations, but it would hasten the next generation of air traffic control, since the transponder GPS codes would allow traffic management to space planes closer, allow more direct routings beyond the traffic corridors that are in place over much the world, and improve efficiencies for the airlines.

The US has been trying to get NextGen implemented for years.

377 GunstarGreen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:23:14am

re: #374 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR ALL TEH MINIMUM WAGE JRRBS IS 4 TEENAGERS LIVIN AT HOME WHO JUST NEEDS SOME SPENDIN MONEYS 4 TEH MALT SHOPPE!!!!!!

OK genius so explain why Walmart & McD are open during school hours.

Yeah, which is why I say that somebody has to do these jobs, and it can’t all be children. To say these jobs are ‘only for teenagers’ is to be either remarkably or willfully ignorant of basic business realities.

378 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:24:11am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

I suppose Pat would know this first hand…

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That man is obviously mentally ill.

379 ObserverArt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:24:39am

So, right now it is 60° in Columbus with tons o’ sun. And yet, it is going to turn to crap and be down to 11° tomorrow night with a mixture of rain to ice to snow and up to 4” of snow overnight Wednesday into Thursday and back to 55° on Friday. Weeeee…spring is springing all around…uncontrollably.

Just was looking at TV listings to have something on in the background while I prime some drywall I finally got finished detailing in my main hallway. I see a movie titled BENGAZI on TMC at 12:30. Plot title: Greedy fortune hunters search for gold in a Bedouin mosque.

So, that is why the CIA was all hush hush about what was going on over there. I think I’m going to tune in to see if they can finally tell me what happened and who the hell stole the “H” in GHAZI. BEN is going to be so pissed.

Outside that…I’ve been a little too derped out the last couple days. Too much CPAC and Green Snow at SXSW over the weekend. Got to sweat it out.

I tell you, it’s a mad, mad, mad world these days. I’m only comforted by knowing it has always been.

Human’s can never get their shit together. Maybe an old B&W movie about stashed goods after world war 2 will lend a little more understanding. Can’t be any crazier than where it seems too many people get all their political knowledge. I wonder if Johnny McCain and Lindsey Graham are going to be watching BENGAZI too?

380 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:37:01am

re: #377 GunstarGreen

Yeah, which is why I say that somebody has to do these jobs, and it can’t all be children. To say these jobs are ‘only for teenagers’ is to be either remarkably or willfully ignorant of basic business realities.

Actually it points back to their basic belief that serfs don’t need education and should be out of school and working as soon as they are physically capable of it. They only exist to support the Libertarians “freedom” and are as interchangeable as cogs. And they’ll be happier too! Just like slaves & serfs were in the past!

381 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:39:08am

re: #379 ObserverArt

So, right now it is 60° in Columbus with tons o’ sun. And yet, it is going to turn to crap and be down to 11° tomorrow night with a mixture of rain to ice to snow and up to 4” of snow overnight Wednesday into Thursday and back to 55° on Friday. Weeeee…spring is springing all around…uncontrollably.

Supposed to be 71F here today, then 16F tomorrow night.
I’ve been cleaning ashes out of the woodstove…thought I was finished with that for the season.
After tomorrow’s storm, there’s some more freezing rain in the forecast for Sunday night/Monday.
I am soooo tired of this.

382 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:40:05am

I think I’m going to go go bed until June.

This has been the most awful winter ever.

Exceptional Sci-Fi is not cutting it anymore.

383 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:40:43am

The next time Steve Stockman disapears, I suggest checking out the local bathhouses.

384 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:40:43am

re: #380 William Barnett-Lewis

Actually it points back to their basic belief that serfs don’t need education and should be out of school and working as soon as they are physically capable of it. They only exist to support the Libertarians “freedom” and are as interchangeable as cogs. And they’ll be happier too! Just like slaves & serfs were in the past!

There is also a discrepancy between labor as just another cost factor to be minimized to lower prices and increase profits, and the social and ethical value of work.

For work to have a social and ethical value, persons working full time should be able to support themselves and have the opportunity to educate their children and improve their situation.

But that smacks of progressivism and socialism…

385 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:43:54am

re: #348 lawhawk

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Their anti-science attitude will be the death of them, with any luck.

[…]

GOP pollster Whit Ayres, who favors reform, tells me Republicans should take the two point rise in critical swing states very seriously.

“It’s significant,” Ayres says. “Some aspects of the future are difficult to see clearly. The increasing proportion of Hispanics in the electorates in key swing states is not one of them.”

[…]

386 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:43:58am

re: #380 William Barnett-Lewis

Actually it points back to their basic belief that serfs don’t need education and should be out of school and working as soon as they are physically capable of it. They only exist to support the Libertarians “freedom” and are as interchangeable as cogs. And they’ll be happier too! Just like slaves & serfs were in the past!

This idea worked well after WWII when factories were hiring and mining was still viable.

No more.

387 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:51:38am

re: #373 sattv4u2

“I’ll take ‘The Sad State Of Political Ads’ for a thousand please, Alex”

Say that when you appear before the Death Panel!

388 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:52:26am

Do you ever wish you could just push a re-set button?

389 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:55:56am

re: #388 FemNaziBitch

Do you ever wish you could just push a re-set button?

Putin has a spare one he’s not using.

390 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:56:45am

re: #387 Killgore Trout

Say that when you appear before the Death Panel!

They’ll never take me alive!!!!

391 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:57:14am


Tight race, with the D slightly leading and the GOP have made the whole thing a referendum on the ACA. They’re desperate to make it look like if the guy loses, it was because he was a flawed candidate, not because people like the ACA, or if he somehow pulls it out, it becomes “even with a shitty guy like him, people still hate the ACA”.

Your modern GOP folks

392 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:57:31am

re: #387 Killgore Trout

re: #390 sattv4u2

They’ll never take me alive!!!!

wait,,, that’s what they want!!
Saves them the paperwork

Nevahmind!!!!

393 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:59:42am

re: #391 Kragar

Tight race

Dem pollster had the dem 5 +/- points up (with a 3 1/2 point margin of error) with the libertarian candidate at 6%

394 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:00:02am

re: #391 Kragar

Tight race, with the D slightly leading and the GOP have made the whole thing a referendum on the ACA. They’re desperate to make it look like if the guy loses, it was because he was a flawed candidate, not because people like the ACA, or if he somehow pulls it out, it becomes “even with a shitty guy like him, people still hate the ACA”.

Your modern GOP folks

Mainstream media is playing along with the GOP (of course) that this is a referendum on the ACA and a major indicator for the 2014 elections.

395 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:00:05am

The poutrage is yuge with these dudebros. The fault, dear Brutus…

Snowden: Feinstein a Hypocrite for Blasting CIA Spying

nbcnews.com

The last I heard, Feinstein was still sitting in the Senate, not in the Russian Duma.

396 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:03:14am

re: #393 sattv4u2

Tight race

Dem pollster had the dem 5 +/- points up (with a 3 1/2 point margin of error) with the libertarian candidate at 6%

I haven’t followed it much, but will be today.

397 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:06:10am

re: #364 FemNaziBitch

Under W Bush there wasn’t any Daylight Savings Time “free stuff” for lazy welfare moochers. //

398 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:10:22am

Ratings Change.

Kessler changes the hyped AFP ad claiming that a cancer patient’s health care costs rose because of the ACA.

Went from 2 big noses to 3.

washingtonpost.com

The president’s false Four-Pinocchio claim that people could keep their plans if they liked them has formed the core of many of AFP’s plans. We understand that change can be confusing and that Boonstra was annoyed at having to sign up for a new plan. But it appears she jumped on television without trying to understand the basics about her new coverage. (Initially, she even seemed to believe she would have to pay 20 percent of the cost of a $350,000 bone marrow transplant, when in fact everything above the out-of-pocket maximum would be covered.)

Sorry, but if she’s paying less than before, and the costs she claimed wouldn’t be covered actually are (as they would be in any plan that has an out-of-pocket max but no lifetime cap), then she is paying less. The AFP implication was that the ACA was making her pay more.

In other words the ad was a complete fabrication. Not merely a partial fabrication. Not just partially false, but wholly and truly false.

This is what’s so infuriating about these fact checks. They are arbitrary and are often just as misleading as the events they claim to be checking.

But it’s just another way for the media outlets to sell papers/get eyeballs, so they go with it.

Meh.

399 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:12:22am

re: #398 lawhawk

KT had that at # 370

400 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:12:42am

POTUS on “Between Two Ferns”

FunnyOrDie Video

Wingnuts are fucking losing it.

401 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:14:40am

re: #400 Kragar

POTUS on “Between Two Ferns”

[Embedded content]

Wingnuts are fucking losing it.

I saw references to that on twitter. decided not to watch.

Do I have to?

402 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:15:04am

re: #391 Kragar

Tight race, with the D slightly leading and the GOP have made the whole thing a referendum on the ACA. They’re desperate to make it look like if the guy loses, it was because he was a flawed candidate, not because people like the ACA, or if he somehow pulls it out, it becomes “even with a shitty guy like him, people still hate the ACA”.

The 2010 elections were supposedly a referendum on O-care and a litmus test for 2012. Oops

403 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:16:40am

re: #400 Kragar

Sounds like a win then.

404 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:18:13am

“What you think about a third term?”
“It would be like making a third Hangover movie. Didn’t really work out, did it?”

OK, that was funny.

405 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:18:59am

re: #401 FemNaziBitch

I saw references to that on twitter. decided not to watch.

Do I have to?

It’s really good. Watch it.

406 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:21:54am

re: #400 Kragar

POTUS on “Between Two Ferns”

[Embedded content]

Wingnuts are fucking losing it.

Holy shit, that was hilarious

407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:22:22am

re: #401 FemNaziBitch

I saw references to that on twitter. decided not to watch.

Do I have to?

Not really funny, but kinda interesting…

408 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:22:42am

re: #404 Kragar

“What you think about a third term?”
“It would be like making a third Hangover movie. Didn’t really work out, did it?”

OK, that was funny.

North Ikea. hahaha

409 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:23:04am
410 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:25:27am

re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not really funny, but kinda interesting…

Are you kidding? That was fucking hysterical! Pres Obama has a keen sense of humor (although probably written for him—his facial expressions are priceless).

411 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:27:05am

re: #410 Justanotherhuman

Are you kidding? That was fucking hysterical! Pres Obama has a keen sense of humor (although probably written for him—his facial expressions are priceless).

Not a big fan of ZG, Obama was certainly more amusing.

412 iossarian  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:28:11am

I thought Obama’s turkey joke was pretty funny.

Probably not a bad way of getting some messaging out there, and I thought they played the obvious fact that it was a plug pretty well.

But it’s not a white guy strutting around an aircraft carrier in a codpiece, so of course the right’s gonna hate.

413 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:28:21am

re: #410 Justanotherhuman

Are you kidding? That was fucking hysterical! Pres Obama has a keen sense of humor (although probably written for him—his facial expressions are priceless).

“OK, here it is. What are you here to plug?”

414 darthstar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:29:45am
415 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:31:29am

Malaysia Jet Changed Course at Time of Disappearance, Officials Say

nytimes.com

SEPANG, Malaysia — The Malaysian authorities now believe that a jetliner missing since Saturday may have radically changed course around the time that it stopped communicating with ground controllers. But there were conflicting accounts of the course change and what may have happened afterward, adding to the air of confusion and disarray surrounding the investigation and search operation.

“As criticism of their inability to find any trace of the jet has mounted, the Malaysian authorities have repeatedly insisted that they were doing their best to solve the mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, with scarce data and almost no precedent. BuYet the government and the airline have also released imprecise, incomplete and sometimes inaccurate information, with civilian officials contradicting military leaders.

“On Tuesday, the fourth day after the plane disappeared while on an overnight flight to Beijing, the head of the country’s air force chief, Gen. Rodzali Daud, was quoted in a Malaysian newspaper saying the military had received “signals” on Saturday that after the aircraft stopped communicating with ground controllers, it changed course sharply, from heading northeast to heading west, and flew hundreds of miles across Peninsular Malaysia and out over the Strait of Malacca, before the tracking went blank.”

416 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:38:19am

“You’ve been shooting here the whole time?”

417 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:38:21am
418 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:40:33am

re: #410 Justanotherhuman

Are you kidding? That was fucking hysterical! Pres Obama has a keen sense of humor (although probably written for him—his facial expressions are priceless).

I agree. I really did ‘laugh out loud’.

419 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:42:42am

White House aide says Funny or Die is top referral source to healthcare.gov after President Obama appears with Zach Galifianakis - @HealthCareTara

see original on FunnyOrDie Video

420 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:44:10am

And then we have this —> GOP lawmaker to Obama: No more funny stuff until all Benghazi questions answered

421 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:46:58am

re: #420 Dr. Matt

And then we have this —> GOP lawmaker to Obama: No more funny stuff until all Benghazi questions answered

Imagine if the GOP applied even a fraction of the scrunity to Bush following 9/11. Nah that would have been unpatriotic until Bush became a liberal.

422 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:48:07am

re: #400 Kragar

Ok, it was pretty good.

Mostly because it was short.

423 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:44:40am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Aren’t their rumors that Idris Alba from Luther and The Wire may be considered as the next Bond? That one will definitely throw certain individuals into a shit fit.

People freaked out when Idris Elba got cast as Heimdall in the Thor films because black actor playing a Norse god. They’ll flip their shit over him being Bond, but he’d be great at it, IMO, so those people can get bent.


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