Rand Paul Has a Plan to Save Ukraine, and It’s Completely Insane

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Once again I find myself in agreement with Jonathan Chait: Rand Paul’s Plan to Save Ukraine is Completely Nuts. But then, I’ve long considered Rand Paul to be the latest manifestation of a weird trend of bad craziness in US politics.

The biggest victim of the Ukraine crisis - other than the Ukrainians themselves, of course - may be Rand Paul. Since bursting onto the national scene four years ago, he has labored steadily and shrewdly first to shed his kook label, to make himself acceptable to the Party’s establishment, and then to steadily tug its policy agenda in his direction. His high-profile attacks on the Obama administration’s foreign policy agenda have excited conservatives and made traditional hawks do a slow boil.

But the return of a classic Cold War scenario has awkwardly exposed the dissonance between conservatives’ still-strong nationalist impulses and Paul’s isolationism. Paul has an op-ed in Breitbart’s “Big Peace” weakly making the case that Ronald Reagan was more dovish than you think, and pleading against his critics, “splintering the party is not the route to victory.” Concurrently, he has an op-ed in Time laying out his plan of action in Ukraine. The Time op-ed is where Paul truly lets loose his long-suppressed inner kook.

Everything about Paul’s argument is weird. Part of the weirdness is conveyed by the prose, which is bereft of specific facts, repetitive, and reads as if it were run through a foreign-language translation program (“This does not and should not require military action. No one in the U.S. is calling for this … I have said, and some have taken exception, that too many U.S. leaders still think in Cold War terms and are quick to ‘tweak’ the international community. This is true.”)

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1 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:00:43pm

So, have we figured out who Paul plagiarized yet?

2 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:01:05pm

in the face of a massive threat from Russia, the United States should impose financial penalties on Ukraine.

Whatnapple

3 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:01:10pm

I did not vote for him.
Just wanted that on the record.

4 Weet  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:03:02pm
5 freetoken  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:06:09pm

Ok, so who did Paul plagiarize for his Breitbart piece?

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:06:19pm

re: #1 Kragar

So, have we figured out who Paul plagiarized yet?

The Transformer 4 script,
A package of Wheatabix cereal,
The song “Louis, Louis” played backward at half speed,
And Foreign Policy: the XXX Parody.

7 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:06:46pm

re: #5 freetoken

Ok, so who did Paul plagiarize for his Breitbart piece?

The Yellow King.

8 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:07:11pm

He is named for Ayn Rand.

What would you expect from someone indoctrinated by his father?

9 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:09:03pm

re: #8 b_sharp

He is named for Ayn Rand.

What would you expect from someone indoctrinated by his father?

He is a complete contemptible quacking douche, but he is not named for Ayn Rand.

His first name is actually Randal.

As in the antagonist from The Stand.

10 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:09:31pm

re: #8 b_sharp

He is named for Ayn Rand.

What would you expect from someone indoctrinated by his father?

The second of those things is true, but Rand Paul was not in fact named after Ayn Rand.

11 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:10:56pm

re: #8 b_sharp

He is named for Ayn Rand.

Sounds good but not true. His first name is Randal.

12 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:14:10pm

re: #9 The Ghost of a Flea

His first name is actually Randal.

Well, there’s part of the problem right there.

13 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:14:25pm

re: #9 The Ghost of a Flea

He is a complete contemptible quacking douche, but he is not named for Ayn Rand.

His first name is actually Randal.

As in the antagonist from The Stand.

So he’s the Walking Dude?

An improvement, but not much.

14 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:14:34pm
15 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:15:00pm

re: #8 b_sharp

He is named for Ayn Rand.

What would you expect from someone indoctrinated by his father?

Also, Newt Gingrich was named for a small, moist amphibian that lives under leaf litter on the forest floor.

True story.

16 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:15:09pm

re: #13 b_sharp

So he’s the Walking Dude?

An improvement, but not much.

The Walking Derp

17 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:17:02pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Sounds good but not true. His first name is Randal.

Ok, Ok, Ok.

He wasn’t named after Ayn Rand, just taught her bullshit bad philosophy.

My bad.

Damn, can’t even spank a monkey around here without have technique critiqued.

Edit: BTW, the monkey is the Rand=Ayn Rand meme. I was joking about me screwing up.

18 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:17:31pm

re: #15 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Also, Newt Gingrich was named for a small, moist amphibian that lives under leaf litter on the forest floor.

True story.

I actually like this one.

19 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:17:45pm
20 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:19:25pm
21 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:19:55pm

re: #18 b_sharp

I actually like this one.

Actual newts, on the other hand, are like “What? Fuck that guy.”

22 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:20:04pm

Rand Paul is correct that Ronald Reagan was criticized for meeting with Gorbachev, but Reagan did not let himself be pushed around in said meetings and instead worked to further America’s interests.

Out of those initial meetings was ultimately born the IRBM Treaty, another thing Reagan caught flak on from some on the right. Yet that too was in furtherance of a long-stated policy goal, the ‘zero option’ regarding intermediate-range nuclear missiles. President Reagan and his policy team had never liked having the Pershing IIs deployed, understanding that IRBMs shortened potential nuclear response times to such a small window that accidents would likely lead to war. Thus Reagan was happy to trade the Pershing IIs away in exchange for the removal of the Soviet SS-20s.

But Ronald Reagan also sought to weaken the USSR by attacking its client states wherever opportune, something neither Ron or Rand Paul would ever approve of and something rand Paul glosses over.

23 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:20:06pm
24 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:20:46pm
Everything about Paul’s argument is weird. Part of the weirdness is conveyed by the prose, which is bereft of specific facts, repetitive, and reads as if it were run through a foreign-language translation program

I didn’t realize that the Palinator was out of alpha yet.

25 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:24:29pm

The part about oil and gas exports has some value, but right afterward Rand Paul ascends into Cloud-Cuckooland:

I would support immediate construction of the Keystone Pipeline.

It is important that Russia become economically isolated until all its forces are removed from Crimea and Putin pledges to act in accordance with the international standards of behavior that respect the rights of free people everywhere.

We should also suspend American loans and aid to Ukraine because currently these could have the counterproductive effect of rewarding Russia. Ukraine owes so much money to Russia that America would essentially be borrowing from China to give to Russia.

The U.S. should suspend its participation in this summer’s G-8 summit and take the lead in boycotting the event in Sochi. If Putin’s troops remain in Crimea at the time of the summit, Russia should be expelled from the group.

I would reinstitute the missile-defense shields President Obama abandoned in 2009 in Poland and the Czech Republic, only this time, I would make sure the Europeans pay for it. The problem with the foreign policies of both Democratic and Republican administrations is that they never give a second thought to how America can afford what they implement.

Bolding mine.

26 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:26:04pm

re: #24 Skip Intro

I didn’t realize that the Palinator was out of alpha yet.

That’s not really fair; Rand Paul is weird and wingnutty, but he can form coherent sentences. His op-eds aren’t just mindless word-salads.

27 Ming  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:31:08pm

Reading Rand Paul’s op-ed in Time Magazine, it’s striking how he periodically returns to bashing President Obama. It’s much like a mantra in meditation: a point of comfort, familiarity, something to come home to. A sentence or two here about Europe, a sentence about Putin, a sentence about Reagan, then BOOM! Obama lacks the qualities of a good leader.

The op-ed has a quality of discipline: it never goes too far astray, never develops any interesting theme, before returning to Obama-bashing. This may be why the writing style is so stilted.

It’s incredible that while history is being made in Eastern Europe right now, major swaths of the Republican Party have absolutely nothing to say, except how much they dislike the President.

28 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:32:39pm
29 jaunte  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:33:14pm
30 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:34:36pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

That’s not really fair; Rand Paul is weird and wingnutty, but he can form coherent sentences. His op-eds aren’t just mindless word-salads.

Amuse bouche of economic WTF
Risoles of reheated Reagan worship garnished with complete contradiction of Reagan policy in a balsamic reduction sauce
Terrine of isolationism served with a foam of paranoia
Hearty joint of bone-in, grass-fed fuckwittery
Fracking fluid mousse, topped with thin shaving of cynical attempt to deregulate a process with grave environmental concerns in the name of foreign policy

…and a small word salad on the side.

31 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:37:47pm

Gus, did you break Twitter again?

32 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:38:13pm

re: #31 b_sharp

Gus, did you break Twitter again?

Still working on my end. Died earlier.

33 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:40:40pm

re: #32 Gus

Still working on my end. Died earlier.

I tried to tweet to you and the tweet button wouldn’t work.

34 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:41:51pm

re: #27 Ming

Reading Rand Paul’s op-ed in Time Magazine, it’s striking how he periodically returns to bashing President Obama. It’s much like a mantra in meditation: a point of comfort, familiarity, something to come home to. A sentence or two here about Europe, a sentence about Putin, a sentence about Reagan, then BOOM! Obama lacks the qualities of a good leader.

The op-ed has a quality of discipline: it never goes too far astray, never develops any interesting theme, before returning to Obama-bashing. This may be why the writing style is so stilted.

It’s incredible that while history is being made in Eastern Europe right now, major swaths of the Republican Party have absolutely nothing to say, except how much they dislike the President.

That’s pretty much been their whole ideology since Obama became president.

35 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:42:35pm

I better get to bed so I can toss and turn while thinking too much about work.

It takes 8 hours just to get 4 hours of sleep.

36 Amory Blaine  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 8:57:50pm

His platitude about the US being broke is so irritating I want to poke my eye out. But then I’ll have to see an eye doctor. Which will remind me of Randy.

Youtube Video

37 freetoken  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:00:19pm

In case you missed this, and need another head-desk moment today:

John Benefiel: America Is Cursed Because Ancient Egyptians Dedicated This Continent To Baal

[…]

Benefiel, who believes that his prayers can cause earthquakes, explained to the Jacobs that Baal is a “counterfeit Jesus,” meaning that while Jesus is the son of God, Baal is the son of Satan and wields control not only over America but over many of nations on the earth.

How exactly did Baal come to rule over America, you ask? Not because of homosexuality or abortion or any of the other reasons that we normally hear from these sorts of Religious Right activists, but rather because ancient Egyptians sailed to this continent thousands of years ago and dedicated this land to him.

Citing the work of pseudo-scholar Barry Fell, Benefiel asserted that it is an established fact that ancient Egyptian Baal-worshipers came to America and left thousands of rock carvings spread all over the nation literally claiming the land in the name of Baal:

[…]

Youtube Video

38 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:02:05pm

Rand Paul is spawn of Ron Paul. He’s just trying a new approach.

39 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:02:30pm

re: #27 Ming

It’s incredible that while history is being made in Eastern Europe right now, major swaths of the Republican Party have absolutely nothing to say, except how much they dislike the President.

Dear GOP,


Kthxbai.

No love,
Me

40 Aqua Obama  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:02:58pm

re: #27 Ming

It’s incredible that while history is being made in Eastern Europe right now, major swaths of the Republican Party have absolutely nothing to say, except how much they dislike the President.

Image: oitbze8.png

41 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:03:10pm

re: #28 Gus

Oh come on. One of them has an open collar, one has a tie on, and the last one is in a baseball cap and T-shirt.

Diversity!

42 klys  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:03:18pm

re: #19 FemNaziBitch

It is absolutely beautiful up there.

I might be a bit biased though.

43 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:03:39pm
44 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:04:47pm

re: #35 b_sharp

I better get to bed so I can toss and turn while thinking too much about work.

It takes 8 hours just to get 4 hours of sleep.

Melatonin

45 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:05:08pm

re: #37 freetoken

In case you missed this, and need another head-desk moment today:

John Benefiel: America Is Cursed Because Ancient Egyptians Dedicated This Continent To Baal

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If curses worked … . .

46 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:05:54pm

re: #40 Aqua Obama

Image: oitbze8.png

Easier and more lucrative to be an idiot.

47 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:06:16pm
48 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:06:35pm

re: #37 freetoken

In case you missed this, and need another head-desk moment today:

John Benefiel: America Is Cursed Because Ancient Egyptians Dedicated This Continent To Baal

[Embedded content]

There’s some serious retconning there. Baal was another god in the Canaanite pantheon, alongside El, Yahweh, Asherah and others. Satan came later as a Christian anti-God.

49 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:08:50pm

re: #48 wheat-dogghazi

There’s some serious retconning there. Baal was another god in the Canaanite pantheon, alongside El, Yahweh, Asherah and others. Satan came later as a Christian anti-God.

I don’t get how Pagan gods even figure into the mix in a Christian Nation.

“forsake all other g-ds” and all.

50 jaunte  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:08:52pm


51 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:09:57pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

I don’t get how Pagan gods even figure into the mix in a Christian Nation.

“forsake all other g-ds” and all.

Apparently the Pagan gods are far more powerful than the one the RWNJs worship.

52 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:12:14pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

I don’t get how Pagan gods even figure into the mix in a Christian Nation.

“forsake all other g-ds” and all.

There is only one God. Except for those others, over there. Ignore them. They are of the Devil. Who’s kinda like a god, being the Adversary and all. Also, ignore Demons. They have no power over God. Mostly.

There is only one God.

53 Aqua Obama  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:13:38pm

I retroactively dedicate the Republican party to the profane deity Llamabutt, totus perfututum omnes

54 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:15:02pm

Evening lizards!

My aunt and uncle gave me cash for my birthday and told me I wasn’t allowed to spend it on bills. I got a turntable that turns albums into mp3s. It is awesome. I’ve done 2 of my records so far and have a bunch more to do. Just going through them is bringing back many memories.

55 jaunte  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:17:11pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

I’ve been wondering about those. What brand did you get?

56 jaunte  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:17:32pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

And, Happy Birthday!

57 Snarknado!  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:17:45pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

I don’t get how Pagan gods even figure into the mix in a Christian Nation.

“forsake all other g-ds” and all.

Check out Paradise Lost (Milton, of course) book 2 for a look at how pagan gods are fitted into the Christian world view. Also, it’s good stuff in its own right.

58 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:17:47pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

My aunt and uncle gave me cash for my birthday and told me I wasn’t allowed to spend it on bills. I got a turntable that turns albums into mp3s. It is awesome. I’ve done 2 of my records so far and have a bunch more to do. Just going through them is bringing back many memories.

Good investment! I spent several weeks digitizing my LP collection before moving to China. If I had had more time, I would have done more processing to minimize the pops and crackles. So, my mp3s sound a lot like LP tracks. Haha!

59 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:19:29pm

re: #52 wheat-dogghazi

There is only one God. Except for those others, over there. Ignore them. They are of the Devil. Who’s kinda like a god, being the Adversary and all. Also, ignore Demons. They have no power over God. Mostly.

There is only one God.

60 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:19:57pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

My aunt and uncle gave me cash for my birthday and told me I wasn’t allowed to spend it on bills. I got a turntable that turns albums into mp3s. It is awesome. I’ve done 2 of my records so far and have a bunch more to do. Just going through them is bringing back many memories.

Cool! A couple years ago I bought one of those antique cabinet gramophones and started collecting old 78’s from thrift stores. I eventually bought a more modern turntable with a stylus for 78’s and recorded them on my computer. It was really fun cleaning up the recordings, taking out as much hiss and pops a possible. It’s a really fun hobby.

61 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:20:30pm

I wish I could find a gif of Teri Garr doing her “double take”. It was all her own and very explanatory.

62 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:20:38pm

re: #37 freetoken

In case you missed this, and need another head-desk moment today:

John Benefiel: America Is Cursed Because Ancient Egyptians Dedicated This Continent To Baal

[Embedded content]

Oy. Never mind that even if the Egyptians did sail to America they never worshiped Ba’al. Moron could have had plenty of fun with Set but, no, gotta be stupid instead…

63 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:21:20pm

re: #57 Snarknado!

Check out Paradise Lost (Milton, of course) book 2 for a look at how pagan gods are fitted into the Christian world view. Also, it’s good stuff in its own right.

I got thru Paradise Lost once and promptly forgot it.

I even went thru an internet study guide.

64 Snarknado!  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:23:04pm

re: #63 FemNaziBitch

I got thru Paradise Lost once and promptly forgot it.

I even went thru an internet study guide.

I fell in love with it the first time I read it, and have reread it several times. No accounting for taste.

65 Amory Blaine  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:24:23pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Happy Birthday

66 jaunte  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:24:24pm
67 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:25:15pm

re: #55 jaunte

I’ve been wondering about those. What brand did you get?

ION Profile Pro

I found it at a discount store for 40 bucks and it works great. I’ve only done 2 so far, The Beatles - Twist And Shout and Peter Gabriel - So.

68 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:25:21pm
Baal (/ⲋeɪl/ bayl; sometimes spelled Bael, Baël (French), Baell) is in 17th Century goetic occult writings one of the seven princes of Hell. The name is drawn from the Canaanite deity Baal mentioned in the Hebrew Bible as the primary god of the Phoenicians

While his Semitic predecessor was depicted as a man or a bull,[1] the demon Baal was in grimoire tradition said to appear in the forms of a man, cat, toad, or combinations thereof. An illustration in Collin de Plancy’s 1818 book Dictionnaire Infernal rather curiously placed the heads of the three creatures onto a set of spider legs.

or not

The storm god, Baal, was a West Semitic import to Egypt. Late Bronze Age texts discovered at Ras Shamra (ancient Ugarit) on the Levantine coast, from which his cult spread, indicate that by 1400 BC, Baal had displaced the god El to become the most important god in the local pantheon.

He seems to have had many incarnations.

69 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:25:26pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

Oy. Never mind that even if the Egyptians did sail to America they never worshiped Ba’al. Moron could have had plenty of fun with Set but, no, gotta be stupid instead…

Clearly, Thor Heyerdahl was assassinated to conceal the truth of the Egyptian Atlantic crossing.

70 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:26:22pm

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi

Good investment! I spent several weeks digitizing my LP collection before moving to China. If I had had more time, I would have done more processing to minimize the pops and crackles. So, my mp3s sound a lot like LP tracks. Haha!

Those pops and cracks give it character :)

71 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:26:34pm

Probably more likely, if American were cursed by a thunder god, it would be Thor.

72 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:27:12pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

Oy. Never mind that even if the Egyptians did sail to America they never worshiped Ba’al. Moron could have had plenty of fun with Set but, no, gotta be stupid instead…

Yeah, that, too. Baal was a Canaanite god. The Egyptians had a different pantheon entirely.

Need we mention the utter lack of genetic and archaeological evidence corroborating Egyptian colonization of the Americas? There was only that papyrus boat expedition by Thor Heyerdahl, which only demonstrated it was maybe kinda possible to sail across the Atlantic in a papyrus boat, not that it was done in fact by ancient Egyptians.

73 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:28:15pm

Lei Gong

Which makes entirely more sense as a name.

If it were prounced with a french accent.

Le Gong.

big noise making thing—male

74 Amory Blaine  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:28:48pm

Egyptian 7 souls

Youtube Video

75 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:29:07pm

re: #72 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, that, too. Baal was a Canaanite god. The Egyptians had a different pantheon entirely.

Need we mention the utter lack of genetic and archaeological evidence corroborating Egyptian colonization of the Americas? There was only that papyrus boat expedition by Thor Heyerdahl, which only demonstrated it was maybe kinda possible to sail across the Atlantic in a papyrus boat, not that it was done in fact by ancient Egyptians.

BUT THE MAYANS AND THEIR PYRAMINDS

They even used a plant fiber (similar to papryus) to make their books!

:)

76 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:30:12pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Cool! A couple years ago I bought one of those antique cabinet gramophones and started collecting old 78’s from thrift stores. I eventually bought a more modern turntable with a stylus for 78’s and recorded them on my computer. It was really fun cleaning up the recordings, taking out as much hiss and pops a possible. It’s a really fun hobby.

I told my aunt about it today and she is going to find her 45’s for me to record for her. It says it will do 78’s but I don’t have any. I only ever had one. My grandmother got me The Giants Win The Pennent! When I was a kid. She used her coupons she collected from her packs of Chesterfield cigs and ordered it from a catalogue.

77 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:30:48pm

re: #65 Amory Blaine

Happy Birthday

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Fuckin A!

78 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:32:17pm
It is amazing, though, for Jindal to position himself as a champion of free speech in the private sector, while balking at free speech in the public sector.

As for the underlying policy point, Medicaid expansion in Louisiana would bring coverage to an estimated 242,000 low-income residents. Jindal refuses to consider the idea.
79 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:32:47pm

I’ve been out of the loop today. This doesn’t sound good.

80 Amory Blaine  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:33:07pm

VB isn’t here, so it’s from a box.

81 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:34:04pm

re: #53 Aqua Obama

I retroactively dedicate the Republican party to the profane deity Llamabutt, totus perfututum omnes

You know, I’ve been looking for a slogan for my new MP3 player, I think we can work with this “llamabutt” idea.

82 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:38:48pm

re: #64 Snarknado!

I fell in love with it the first time I read it, and have reread it several times. No accounting for taste.

I had the best English Lit Prof. That’s how I remember it.

Generations of students remember his shout of “ME MISERABLE!,” a trademark of his Paradise Lost lectures, and recall his classes as some of the most memorable experiences of their college years

en.wikipedia.org

If you feel like it, look up a vid of his class. It was really something.

Looking up his wiki I’m realizing how fortunate I was.

83 klys  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:40:29pm

re: #77 NJDhockeyfan

Fuckin A!

Have an amazing Marty glove save as a present (Devils took the Flyers down 2-1!).

84 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:49:08pm

re: #83 klys

Have an amazing Marty glove save as a present (Devils took the Flyers down 2-1!).

He’s still amazing as old as he is. Great news too, he’s not leaving the Devils. I think he will finish his career there in NJ.

85 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:51:28pm

Keith is looking rough. Wait, he always looks like that!

86 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:52:53pm
87 sagehen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:53:45pm

USA Network enters reality TV with the worst… OMG it’s awful. “Chrisley Knows Best” — a rich Atlanta family with a super-controlling Dad.

88 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:54:19pm

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

Keith is looking rough. Wait, he always looks like that!

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His hair is a bit lighter in color.

89 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:54:31pm
90 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:56:08pm
91 klys  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:56:10pm

re: #84 NJDhockeyfan

He’s still amazing as old as he is. Great news too, he’s not leaving the Devils. I think he will finish his career there in NJ.

I am rooting for him to retire a Devil. And a reporter recently floated the idea of him becoming the Devils’ GM, which I would wholeheartedly support (he has expressed interest in becoming a GM when he can’t play anymore, and the current GM is getting up there…)

92 Kragar  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:56:18pm

re: #87 sagehen

USA Network enters reality TV with the worst… OMG it’s awful. “Chrisley Knows Best” — a rich Atlanta family with a super-controlling Dad.

And we’re supposed to want to watch because?

93 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:58:10pm

Peppermint Lounge was the Ronettes first gig. They sort of crashed in. :D

94 sagehen  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 9:58:54pm

re: #92 Kragar

And we’re supposed to want to watch because?

Because it wasn’t supposed to be that awful? I don’t know why I was expecting better, just because I usually like this channel’s offerings. This is their first big miss.

95 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:00:08pm
96 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:01:36pm
97 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:03:54pm
98 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:04:05pm

re: #91 klys

I am rooting for him to retire a Devil. And a reporter recently floated the idea of him becoming the Devils’ GM, which I would wholeheartedly support (he has expressed interest in becoming a GM when he can’t play anymore, and the current GM is getting up there…)

That would be great. He is struggling with what to do when he retires. Not playing anymore is going to be tough for him. The way he is still playing he could last a few more years.

99 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:04:43pm
100 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:04:54pm

The Crystals… Da Doo Ron Ron

101 BongCrodny  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:07:37pm

Rand Paul is an anagram of “Anal Durp.”

It’s funny how these things work out.

102 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:10:52pm
103 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:11:37pm
104 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:12:41pm

Jimi Hendrix boiling pot of water. :D

105 Lidane  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:15:15pm

re: #37 freetoken

In case you missed this, and need another head-desk moment today:

John Benefiel: America Is Cursed Because Ancient Egyptians Dedicated This Continent To Baal

Why the fuck would ancient Egyptians worship a Canaanite god? If the Egyptians were going to sail here, they would have been more likely to give praise to one of their own gods.

106 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:15:57pm
107 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:21:45pm
108 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:25:31pm
109 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:33:03pm

So basically, free market reforms* will make life uncomfortable for Russia** which will affect their handling of the Ukraine situation***, with no impact on the US****.

* that coincidentally involve a giant subsidy package for fossil fuel companies, because let’s not kid ourselves that this proposal isn’t implicitly a giant writhing, orgiastic pile of tax breaks, grants, and cut environmental regulations…because we need that gas flowing NOW.

**a kleptocracy that has more than once used coercion and threats, including the closing of gas pipelines, to fix prices, led by ex-KGB thug obsessed with social conservatism and collecting bits of the Soviet Union like they were Pokemon> It’s totally not crazy stupid to assume that these people will be rational actors within the market. To say nothing of the timetable and production demands required to first achieve and then maintain an export volume that depresses LNG value, but is also of sufficient volume that Russia can’t use it’s more-than-half market share of Europe to control the market.

***assuming that the assets of the Crimean regions won’t soften a dip in fossil fuel prices, and that things like the full ownership of Svastpol won’t open up new markets for Russian fossil fuels. And assuming that the Russian government of nutbags and cronies are rational economic actors, and that the seizure of Crimea is not also about creepy identity politics and a need for constant external struggles to divert from the guignol levels of corruption in Russia proper.

****Except, of course, for everything the taxpayers have to eat to subsidize faster fossil fuel production and export. And everything the taxpayers have to eat cleaning up environmental damage. And the deformation of US fossil fuels prices if the export quantity—and remember, the whole premise is that there *has* to been an export quantity sufficient to drive down prices sufficient to injure Russia’s economy— tightens the local supply raising prices. And the costs of fracking-related illnesses and contaminated property to personal incomes.

110 freetoken  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:33:28pm

Minneapolis:

Getty Image

111 freetoken  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:35:18pm
112 freetoken  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:37:30pm
113 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:37:50pm
114 freetoken  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:42:14pm
115 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:45:04pm
116 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:53:03pm

Charles —
I am still getting wonky page refreshes because of the embedded Getty images. Some text is in the background, obscured by the image. Some text is in the foreground, over the image. Maybe it’s my connection speed.

When I hit New Comments, first I see the gray Getty image box in a comment, and the page formatting is cool. Then, when the image loads, the formatting does not compensate for the greater vertical height. So, I get these overlays, which require me to reload the page to be able to read stuff or post a comment.

Chrome 33 + Win 7, BTW

117 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 10:56:07pm

Putin Critic Alexei Navalny Banned from Internet, Interviews

MOSCOW - A Russian court placed opposition leader Alexei Navalny under house arrest for at least two months and barred him from using the Internet or speaking to the media.

Navalny, an outspoken critic of President Vladimir Putin and a leader of anti-Kremlin protests in 2011-2012, denounced the Friday ruling as baseless and said it was meant to silence him.

On Monday, Navalny was once of more than 100 protesters detained outside a Moscow courthouse where they were demonstrating against the prosecution of seven defendants who were arrested at a 2012 rally against Putin.

Their pleas fell on deaf ears however as the judge sentenced seven defendants to prison terms ranging from two-and-a-half to four years for attacking police officers…

118 Gus  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:10:49pm


Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk flies to the US on Wednesday and is scheduled to meet President Obama on the same day in the White House.

119 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:41:03pm
Caribbean Sues West Over Slavery
On Monday, the leaders of 14 Caribbean nations unanimously decided to file a lawsuit against the governments of Britain, France, and the Netherlands for damages resulting from the slave trade. The Caribbean Community, a consortium of prime ministers, announced a 10-point plan to seek reparations, including a formal apology, debt cancelation, and aid strengthening public health, educational, and cultural institutions. They are also advocating for a “repatriation program” for Rastafarians who want to be resettled in Africa. The Caribbean Community is being represented by a law firm with a good record in the area of reparations. Leigh Day won $21.5 million for Kenyans tortured under British colonial rule.

the comments are strange

120 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:55:00pm

nytol

121 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 12:44:12am

It’s 0342. Do you know where your mountain grown dark roast pod is?

122 freetoken  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 12:59:01am
123 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 1:19:36am

re: #122 freetoken

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Can’t play—in a house full of sleepers, with no headset. Probably getting 6 hours in 24, but the whole notion of a sleep schedule has gone away.

124 urbanmeemaw  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 1:44:17am

re: #28 Gus

Yes! One of them is wearing a baseball cap.

125 urbanmeemaw  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 1:47:52am

re: #41 Lidane

Sorry, Lidane! Scrolled down too quickly before commenting. I blame Obama.

126 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 3:53:20am

Ukraine won’t intervene in Crimea: president

afp.com

“Ukraine will not attempt a military move to prevent the southern Crimean peninsula’s breakaway in order not to expose its eastern border, Ukraine’s acting president Oleksandr Turchynov told AFP Tuesday in an exclusive interview.

“We cannot launch a military operation in Crimea, as we would expose the eastern border and Ukraine would not be protected,” Turchynov said, as Crimea prepares to vote in a referendum Sunday on becoming part of Russia.

“Crimea’s upcoming referendum is a “sham” whose results will be fixed in Moscow, Turchynov told AFP.

“What they call the referendum will not happen in Crimea but in the offices of the Kremlin,” Turchynov said ahead of Sunday’s vote and hours after the pro-Russian authorities in Crimea voted for full independence from Ukraine.”

127 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:00:20am

So, it appears that Ukraine is going to try to protect its eastern border from Russia rather than the autonomous Crimea. Probably the wisest course of action at this point.

Yesterday it was reported that thousands hundreds of Tatars had already fled to western Ukraine from Crimea. (An exact figure doesn’t appear to be available.) [Edit]

128 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:02:56am

Probably too late for regrets now. The fruits of believing Russian propaganda and allowing yourselves to be intimidated and not fighting back. Choices.

129 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:06:51am

Three women reportedly kidnapped in Crimea are alive, well

kyivpost.com

“Two EuroMaidan Revolution activists, Kateryna Butko and Oleksandra Ryaztseva, as well as tyzhden.ua journalist Olena Maksymenko — are alive and well.

“Maksymenko wrote on her Facebook page that she returned to Kyiv and thanked the public fo their support and promised to tell more at a press conference. Meanwhile, activists Butko and Ryaztseva — who participated in the AutoMaidan motorist protests against Ukrainian officials — are also free. But they were not in Kyiv as of the morning of March 12, but were on their way back to the capital.

“We won’t be telling anything about when and how they have been found before they are in Kyiv and safe,” said AutoMaidan activist Illya Dashivets. “I think it will be possible to contact Butko today, in the evening.” More

130 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:16:21am

Crimean Tatars face tough choice: dig in, or flee

kyivpost.com

BAKHCHISARAY, Crimea - After an evening prayer in the town of Bakhchisaray in southern Crimea, a handful of Crimean Tatars stand guard near the mosque where they pray to protect it and their people from a possible attack by pro-Russian militarized groups and ordinary criminals who they say increasingly roam the peninsula since the invasion of Russian troops in late February.

“In recent days, unknown persons have been going around Crimean Tatar villages and marking their homes with white crosses, sowing panic among many women and outraging the men. The police here, who have been disoriented following the abrupt - and many claim illegal - change of power in Crimea last month, have neglected their duties.

“This has left the Crimean Tatars themselves to move to ensure the safely of their homes and villages.” More

131 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:38:10am

Winter Storm Vulcan Forecast: Blizzard Possible; Heavy Snow Likely for Midwest, Northeast, and Canada

weather.com

We’re supposed to have 72 and rain today. Nothing yet, since the freaking sun hasn’t come up. : )

ETA: And did you catch that name? This storm is named “Vulcan”.

132 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:40:09am

Fox’s Stuart Varney outraged states still feeding poor despite food stamp cuts: ‘You can’t win!’

“This completely negates, almost entirely negates the cuts that Congress imposed,” Varney said Tuesday on “Fox & Friends.” “It shows you, once you’ve got a program, you can never get rid of it and it’s very difficult to cut. Now what’s really going on here is the government’s buying votes. They’re keeping, churning out the food stamps in return for votes. That’s what’s happening.”

“Fox & Friends” host Brian Kilmeade said the states had forced Republicans into “a tough situation politically.”

“They know what’s right, they know what’s affordable, they know that food stamps are a never-ending cycle, but do you want to be the party that goes up to the poor and says, ‘Take that back’?” Kilmeade said.

Varney agreed that Republicans were the true victims here.

133 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:46:57am

re: #132 Varek Raith

Perhaps Varney would also like to gut Social Security retirement, too. Lazy old people! Why can’t they get a job and get off our backs?

//

134 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:47:20am

re: #132 Varek Raith

Fox’s Stuart Varney outraged states still feeding poor despite food stamp cuts: ‘You can’t win!’

Murdoch pays Varney very well to spout his lies. Varney, whose pseudo-economics mumbo jumbo resonates well with the ignorant and uninformed, graduated from the London School of Economics, which gives him a veneer of “credibility” and is worth an approx $10M.

I don’t doubt that most of Murdoch/Ailes’ little liars are paid extremely as well as Varney for their efforts, some, like O’Lielly, much more. Even the Alaska Know-Nothing was paid $1M/yr for her word salad in her original contract w/Faux News.

135 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:53:08am

re: #134 Justanotherhuman

When I see the name Varney, I think of Jim Varney (Ernest P. Worrell). Jim may have been the smarter of the two.

136 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:55:08am

The powers behind the RW propaganda pay huge bucks for the most popular of their “talent”.

Report: Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly set to sign with Fox News through 2016

blogs.ajc.com

137 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:58:16am

Well I made it in to work.

Just stayed in the tracks of the vehicle ahead of me, did not drive too fast. It’s supposed to snow all day.

138 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:01:58am

re: #137 Pie-onist Overlord

Well I made it in to work.

Just stayed in the tracks of the vehicle ahead of me, did not drive too fast. It’s supposed to snow all day.

So, would this be a bad time to mention that the cherry blossoms are blooming here?

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:09:50am

re: #137 Pie-onist Overlord

Well I made it in to work.

Just stayed in the tracks of the vehicle ahead of me, did not drive too fast. It’s supposed to snow all day.

Good thing that car did not drive off into a ditch…

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:10:47am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Good thing that car did not drive off into a ditch…

Or into their own garage…

141 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:11:19am

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi

So, would this be a bad time to mention that the cherry blossoms are blooming here?

Here, too. Some a couple of weeks ago, already shed. : ) Soon we’ll have the dogwoods and azaleas which used to be in everyone’s yards, not so much anymore which is a pity, since they’re indigenous to this area. You can travel through the mountains and see them growing wild, although it’s mostly rhododendrons rather than azaleas; I’ve seen plenty of dogwoods growing in the woods even in Charlotte, though.

I have to admit—I miss the lilacs of Buffalo; we don’t have those here and I loved them as a kid. I admit, I’m a floral kind of person—you should see my living room. : )

142 Lidane  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:11:24am

re: #117 Gus

Putin Critic Alexei Navalny Banned from Internet, Interviews

And some of the dudebros are stupid enough to think that Snowden would ever whistleblow on the Russians while he’s their guest. ROFL.

143 Jayleia  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:14:18am

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

Regret, updings…you know

144 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:15:21am

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi

So, would this be a bad time to mention that the cherry blossoms are blooming here?

So glad they haven’t bloomed here yet. Cherry trees flowered early in Michigan two years ago, then froze. Entire cherry crop destroyed.

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:16:30am
146 Lidane  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:19:01am
147 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:21:56am

So, very early this morning (March 12 2014) between 0235 and 0240 Central European Time, I’d just gone to bed, when through my window, I caught a very bright flash - like lightning - followed four seconds later by an explosion. I get up and look out the balcony, and nothing on the ground - no fire, no smell of smoke, nothing. No clouds in the sky; it was very clear overnight.

So I’m left wondering, did I witness a bolide airburst? I’ve been looking around on the web, and found nothing; no reports of anomalous phenomenon or meteors or meteorite impact. The sound came from high up, but I couldn’t tell from what direction.

148 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:25:45am

Why does the media give these deniers a voice?

Dottie Sandusky on @TODAYShow: ‘I think people need to know that Jerry is not guilty. I think people maybe need to look at the transcripts and see all the discrepancies that went on at trial’

end of alert

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:28:45am

SUCKS

.A RAPIDLY DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL MOVE THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY AND SPREAD A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN ALONG AND SOUTH OF I 69. THE BAND WILL BE PERSISTENT ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE I 69 CORRIDOR AND HAVE A SHARP EDGE GOING NORTH FROM THERE. THE PEAK OF THE EVENT WILL ENCOMPASS THE REMAINDER OF THE MORNING COMMUTE IN THE FLINT AREA AND THE ENTIRE DETROIT METRO AREA. TOTAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE BETWEEN 4 AND 8 INCHES BETWEEN M 46 AND I 69… AND BETWEEN 8 AND 10 INCHES SOUTH OF I 69. THE HEAVY SNOW WILL COMBINE WITH THE STRONG NORTHEAST WINDS TO CREATE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW THROUGH THE DAY.

150 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:28:49am

No, you lost your paycheck, Mrs. Sandusky. Live with it and what your husband did to young boys. Hanging around with John Ziegler isn’t going to help.

Jerry Sandusky’s wife: Victims ‘were manipulated, and they saw money’

today.com

151 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:33:31am

This is not good.

Crimea says to take ownership of Ukrainian state companies on its territory

reuters.com

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:36:23am
153 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:39:24am

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

SUCKS

.A RAPIDLY DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL MOVE THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY AND SPREAD A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN ALONG AND SOUTH OF I 69. THE BAND WILL BE PERSISTENT ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE I 69 CORRIDOR AND HAVE A SHARP EDGE GOING NORTH FROM THERE. THE PEAK OF THE EVENT WILL ENCOMPASS THE REMAINDER OF THE MORNING COMMUTE IN THE FLINT AREA AND THE ENTIRE DETROIT METRO AREA. TOTAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE BETWEEN 4 AND 8 INCHES BETWEEN M 46 AND I 69… AND BETWEEN 8 AND 10 INCHES SOUTH OF I 69. THE HEAVY SNOW WILL COMBINE WITH THE STRONG NORTHEAST WINDS TO CREATE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW THROUGH THE DAY.

That’s March coming in like a lion. The front is passing over me right now. The wind is blowing really hard.

154 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:49:48am

Quite interesting.

155 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:54:51am
156 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 5:57:49am
157 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:00:30am

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

Hotel owner Yalta, Black Sea Coast ‘it’s a disaster, everyone cancelling, I’ve sacked 60 per cent of my staff’ Crimea

in the good old days, Yalta was packed with tourists from Russian industrial centers taking their trade-union sponsored vacations.

158 Lidane  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:07:18am

Well that’s interesting. As I’m sitting here sending off job applications to the companies I met at SXSW this last weekend, I got contacted by a headhunter on LinkedIn. Seems like a decent opportunity and I’m certainly not going to reject something that comes my way. We’ll see.

159 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:08:56am

re: #131 Justanotherhuman

Winter Storm Vulcan Forecast: Blizzard Possible; Heavy Snow Likely for Midwest, Northeast, and Canada

weather.com

We’re supposed to have 72 and rain today. Nothing yet, since the freaking sun hasn’t come up. : )

ETA: And did you catch that name? This storm is named “Vulcan”.

It’s the Weather Channel. The NWS doesn’t give storm names to winter storms. It’s a marketing tool, and doesn’t actually convey any useful information. Winter storms are a different breed from tropical cyclones, and do not get storm name designations.

But if we’re going to go with storm names, picking the god of volcanoes and fire is an odd choice for a winter storm.

160 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:10:23am

re: #159 lawhawk

It’s the Weather Channel. The NWS doesn’t give storm names to winter storms. It’s a marketing tool, and doesn’t actually convey any useful information. Winter storms are a different breed from tropical cyclones, and do not get storm name designations.

But if we’re going to go with storm names, picking the god of volcanoes and fire is an odd choice for a winter storm.

Yes, quite. Everything, everyone is up to be marketed these days.

161 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:14:49am

re: #159 lawhawk

It’s the Weather Channel. The NWS doesn’t give storm names to winter storms. It’s a marketing tool, and doesn’t actually convey any useful information. Winter storms are a different breed from tropical cyclones, and do not get storm name designations.

But if we’re going to go with storm names, picking the god of volcanoes and fire is an odd choice for a winter storm.

When they started using those names, I found a different source for weather information. Buh-bye Weather Channel!

162 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:15:03am

So, is Diane Feinstein grandstanding or is she right to pick a fight over the CIA;s action?

163 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:17:52am

re: #151 Justanotherhuman

This is not good.

Crimea says to take ownership of Ukrainian state companies on its territory

reuters.com

Not unexpected. There are some major defense industries there, especially a helicopter refit plant and the shipyards in Sevastopol.

164 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:18:59am

re: #137 Pie-onist Overlord

Well I made it in to work.

Just stayed in the tracks of the vehicle ahead of me, did not drive too fast. It’s supposed to snow all day.

165 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:19:05am

re: #162 Political Atheist

So, is Diane Feinstein grandstanding or is she right to pick a fight over the CIA;s action?

Honestly, I couldn’t tell you. For one, I stopped paying attention to her years and years ago. Even then she seemed to think she was the only important person and that only her thoughts mattered - a Democratic equivalent to Ted Cruz.

166 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:21:13am

re: #162 Political Atheist

So, is Diane Feinstein grandstanding or is she right to pick a fight over the CIA;s action?

She’s given administration opponents an attack line, one Senators McCain and Graham have quickly move to use. For that reason, I’m glad she’s done this, because the Dems here are right: It’s fun watching the members of the other party tear into each other.

167 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:21:24am

re: #162 Political Atheist

So, is Diane Feinstein grandstanding or is she right to pick a fight over the CIA;s action?

This isn’t a new fight. She’s been fighting this one since the Bush admin, which is when the alleged spying took place.

My opinion is they may have, but given how paranoid our leadership was at the time it doesn’t surprise me. Move on.

168 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:21:49am

re: #165 William Barnett-Lewis

Honestly, I couldn’t tell you. For one, I stopped paying attention to her years and years ago. Even then she seemed to think she was the only important person and that only her thoughts mattered - a Democratic equivalent to Ted Cruz.

Between her and the CIA director there is not enough credibility (imho) to really believe either of them. But the idea of an intel agency meddling in oversight is genuinely chilling.

169 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:23:50am
170 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:24:00am

Morning all. Regarding that small image of Rand Paul in this thread…is that a bit of a mustache on his upper lip, or just the way the shadows fall? For some reason the image just makes him look so different? Maybe it is that fact that he has a smile, which we very seldom ever see on him. As soon as I saw it I was like who is the goober?

Today’s big event…let’s see what the weather brings central Ohio. I hope all the lizard types in the upper Midwest, Eastern and New England states can get through what is hopefully winter’s last stand without too much trouble.

171 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:25:41am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Image: 1286858068.bluevon_boot_to_the_head.jpg

Bad linky.

I have to walk my dogs in the wind this morning.

172 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:26:17am

HURR HURR!!!!! DEFICITS IS TEH REAL SLAVERYS!!!!!!

173 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:28:32am

re: #171 darthstar

Bad linky.

I have to walk my dogs in the wind this morning.

It works for me. Maybe you’ve just gotten dizzy after being booted in the head.

174 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:30:00am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Image: 1286858068.bluevon_boot_to_the_head.jpg

Bad link.

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

175 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:31:44am

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

Yes, quite. Everything, everyone is up to be marketed these days.

Heh, you may have just hit on the next step in that marketing. When will storms get named after paying sponsors?

“Let’s check the weather with weatherman Bob.” “Well Maria, it is looking like the big Whirlpool Refrigerator Noreaster Storm is going to hit New York hard today with super freezing temps and more ice than your typical 20 cubic foot freezer can crank out in a day!”

On second thought, maybe that will be the last thing anyone would want to attach their name too!

176 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:35:28am

Lydia the great white crosses mid atlantic ridge.

20,000 miles and counting since last march.

ocearch.org

177 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:37:25am

re: #170 ObserverArt

Morning all. Regarding that small image of Rand Paul in this thread…is that a bit of a mustache on his upper lip, or just the way the shadows fall? For some reason the image just makes him look so different? Maybe it is that fact that he has a smile, which we very seldom ever see on him. As soon as I saw it I was like who is the goober?

Today’s big event…let’s see what the weather brings central Ohio. I hope all the lizard types in the upper Midwest, Eastern and New England states can get through what is hopefully winter’s last stand without too much trouble.

I thought it made him look exactly like the middle-aged, pedestrian thinker that he really is.

Meanwhile,

G7 leaders say annexation of Crimea ‘could have grave implications for the legal order that protects the unity and sovereignty of all states’ - @Reuters

end of alert

178 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:37:33am

re: #172 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! DEFICITS IS TEH REAL SLAVERYS!!!!!!

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Because you’re a baby that doesn’t understand how the world works, dear. Maybe one day, if you grow up, you’ll understand.

In somewhat related news: Georgiastan continues its work on passing a bill that makes it illegal to be traveling slower than the vehicle behind you. That this would effectively mandate speeding, legally requiring you to break one law in order to avoid breaking a different law, apparently hasn’t passed through their thick skulls.

I have to get out of this shithole state.

179 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:40:33am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

Because you’re a baby that doesn’t understand how the world works, dear. Maybe one day, if you grow up, you’ll understand.

In somewhat related news: Georgiastan continues its work on passing a bill that makes it illegal to be traveling slower than the vehicle behind you. That this would effectively mandate speeding, legally requiring you to break one law in order to avoid breaking a different law, apparently hasn’t passed through their thick skulls.

I have to get out of this shithole state.

That is a singularly stupid proposal. Georgia is trying to be recognized in the Guinness Book of World Records for the dumbest piece of
legislation in history.

180 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:41:04am
181 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:41:36am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

Because you’re a baby that doesn’t understand how the world works, dear. Maybe one day, if you grow up, you’ll understand.

In somewhat related news: Georgiastan continues its work on passing a bill that makes it illegal to be traveling slower than the vehicle behind you. That this would effectively mandate speeding, legally requiring you to break one law in order to avoid breaking a different law, apparently hasn’t passed through their thick skulls.

I have to get out of this shithole state.

And I can see tourism dropping in Florida as the accident rate in GA climbs even higher than it already is.

182 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:41:53am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

What’s the reasoning behind that?

183 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:42:10am
184 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:42:52am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

I have to get out of this shithole state.

Yeah, that and at some point, you’ll probably be stealth taxed for the new baseball stadium that will replace the “old” baseball stadium (that isn’t even old enough to vote) because said “old” stadium was located near too many of TEH MINORITEEZ.

185 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:43:45am
186 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:43:54am

So I was supposed to fly to Buffalo, NY on business this morning, but that’s, uh, been postponed due to the blizzard there. Not complaining. I got to sleep an extra 2.5 hours before work.

187 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:45:20am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

Because you’re a baby that doesn’t understand how the world works, dear. Maybe one day, if you grow up, you’ll understand.

In somewhat related news: Georgiastan continues its work on passing a bill that makes it illegal to be traveling slower than the vehicle behind you. That this would effectively mandate speeding, legally requiring you to break one law in order to avoid breaking a different law, apparently hasn’t passed through their thick skulls.

I have to get out of this shithole state.

Have you an example of the language in that bill? How the hell can you even write that and have it make any sense and stand up legally???

Sounds like the dudes that drive the 10 foot tall bigwheel pick’emup trucks that like to ride on smaller car rear bumpers thought that one up.

188 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:46:48am

re: #185 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, that one should be good for a chuckle or two.

189 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:46:48am

Chipotle hires rapper to sing song for one of their video ads.

Rapper changes mind and says no.

Chipotle files suit for advance check (I suppose they could have just asked).

Rapper cuts them a check for 212,000 dollars and writes “FUCK OFF” on the memo line. (well played)

happynicetimepeople.com

190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:47:21am

re: #187 ObserverArt

Have you an example of the language in that bill? How the hell can you even write that and have it make any sense and stand up legally???

Sounds like the dudes that drive the 10 foot tall bigwheel pick’emup trucks that like to ride on smaller car rear bumpers thought that one up.

What’s the point of owning an enormous penis-ersatzmobile if it does not come with built-in right of way?

191 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:49:48am

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

What’s the reasoning behind that?

The people that fly down 285 doing 90 get upset that they have to deal with other people doing 70~75 (the speed limit is 55).

There is no valid reasoning behind this law. We already have minimum speed limits — all interstates, at least in the metro area (I’m not well-traveled in the sticks) have a posted minimum speed of 40. Max tends to be 55 near the city, 65 beyond the limits. The idiots that proposed and voted for this legislation support the Boortzian belief that accidents are caused by slow drivers forcing other people to change lanes, rather than people driving way too damn fast and constantly shifting lanes with no signals.

So now we have this legislation, which says that it’s illegal to be traveling slower than the vehicle behind you. Ostensibly this would mandate that you change to a further-right lane, but in reality you can’t always do that, so if someone is tearing up behind you way past the speed limit, your only legal move is to accelerate — when you’re probably already well over the speed limit, because going less than 70 on a Georgia freeway is suicide.

192 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:50:57am

HURR HURR!!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!! TEH SOUTHERN STRATEGERY NEVER HAPENED!!!!!! MLK WAS TEH REPUBLICAN HURR HURR

193 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:51:33am
194 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:51:35am

re: #189 darthstar

Chipotle hires rapper to sing song for one of their video ads.

Rapper changes mind and says no.

Chipotle files suit for advance check (I suppose they could have just asked).

Rapper cuts them a check for 212,000 dollars and writes “FUCK OFF” on the memo line. (well played) ETA: The story said “Fuck You”.

happynicetimepeople.com

The check was good, too (cashier’s) and said, Fuck Off, not Fuck You.

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195 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:52:50am

re: #180 darthstar

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196 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:53:31am

Well my SiL’s water broke. Exciting times here people. It’s a good thing that her sister decided to fly into town a week before her due date. Guess she had a feeling despite what we’ve been hearing about “Peruvian” time that my niece took a page from my brother and I and decided to come early.

197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:54:05am
198 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:54:11am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:54:25am

re: #191 GunstarGreen

So now we have this legislation, which says that it’s illegal to be traveling slower than the vehicle behind you. Ostensibly this would mandate that you change to a further-right lane, but in reality you can’t always do that,

That is the law of the Autobahn in Germany, I mean the geting over to the right lane unless you are passing someone part…

200 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:54:47am

re: #187 ObserverArt

Have you an example of the language in that bill? How the hell can you even write that and have it make any sense and stand up legally???

Sounds like the dudes that drive the 10 foot tall bigwheel pick’emup trucks that like to ride on smaller car rear bumpers thought that one up.

Currently looking for actual full text of the bill. In the meantime, summary via USA Today:

The “slow poke” bill would require any driver on a divided highway to move to the right - even if they’re driving at the speed limit — when a vehicle going faster comes up from behind, or face a misdemeanor charge.

The Georgia Senate approved the measure on a 42-5 vote today; the House of Representatives approved it 162-9 in February. It needs Republican Gov. Nathan Deal’s signature to become law.

201 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:54:52am
202 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:55:19am

FDNY responding to a reported building explosion in Harlem.


This may be affecting MNR/subways in the area as well.

203 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:55:56am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ugh. That is really, really not good.

204 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:56:22am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s scary.

205 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:56:45am
206 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:57:17am

Real reason GOP upset over the Obama Two Ferns interview? It’s getting the desired result of targeting the very folks that are underrepresented in ACA enrollments thus far - the 25-45 healthy folks.

That and the fact that it was far more fact-filled than any GOP proposal on health care reform.

207 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:57:26am

re: #202 lawhawk

FDNY responding to a reported building explosion in Harlem.

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This may be affecting MNR/subways in the area as well.

208 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:58:05am

re: #205 darthstar

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Joke will be on them when Hispanic voters in a few years view them the same way African Americans do and they’re completely not viable nationally as a party because of shit like this.

209 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:58:07am

re: #200 GunstarGreen

Pointless legislation. How is this going to be enforced?

210 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:58:09am

We had an apartment building under construction go up in flames yesterday afternoon in San Francisco. I’d just gotten to the ballpark to pick up my wife when it started.

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211 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:59:41am
212 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 6:59:45am

Updates on Harlem building explosion:

At least one injury reported.

MNR railroad service in and out of Grand Central temporarily suspended due to the fire/explosion.

FDNY is mobilized and NYPD has mobilized for crowd control. ConEd responding to turn off power/gas to affected building(s).

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:00:37am


214 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:01:20am
215 darthstar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:01:42am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Joke will be on them when Hispanic voters in a few years view them the same way African Americans do and they’re completely not viable nationally as a party because of shit like this.

They’ll hold enough states to fuck shit up. Honestly, they fucked up so much last time they were in power the pendulum should still be swinging away from them, but with the money they have, I suspect we’ll see another Republican majority. We survived Bush. We’ll survive President Rand Paul.

216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:02:18am

And in Philly:

217 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:02:26am

re: #178 GunstarGreen

The law fundamentally undermines the speed limit laws currently in place and makes police enforcement next to impossible. It rewards those who drive aggressively, recklessly, and dangerously above the speed limit.

How anyone thinks that this is a good idea is beyond me.

218 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:04:25am

And FB has bought their own Menlo Park cop, too.

Menlo Park: Police sound all-clear after Facebook evacuation Tuesday night

mercurynews.com

Excuse the redundancy, BTW. Guilty of that myself sometimes.

“Last week, Menlo Park’s city council voted last week to allow the company to pay about $200,000 a year to the city to fund a full-time police officer who would be stationed near the new campus.”

219 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:04:26am

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

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That photo, with the little black dress while reclining on a red couch, some might call that “devilish”. Or “Lola-ish” at least.

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:04:55am
221 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:04:59am

Actual Georgia HB 459, a.k.a. the “Slowpoke Bill”.

Stricken section (emphasis mine):

On roads, streets, or highways with two or more lanes allowing for movement in the same direction, no person shall continue to operate a motor vehicle in the most left-hand lane at less than the maximum lawful speed limit once such person knows or should reasonably know that he is being overtaken in such lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed, except when such motor vehicle is preparing for a left turn.

Replaced with:

Upon roads, streets, or highways with two or more lanes allowing for movement in the same direction, no person shall continue to operate a motor vehicle in the passing lane once such person knows or should reasonably know that he or she is being overtaken in such lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. For purposes of this Code section, ‘passing lane’ means the most left-hand lane other than a high occupancy vehicle lane.

Literally, what this bill does is specifically legally require you to speed in order to maintain your lane.

(There’s also an added section about not driving so slow as to impede traffic, but again, we already have minimum speed limits posted)

222 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:05:22am

re: #215 darthstar

They’ll hold enough states to fuck shit up. Honestly, they fucked up so much last time they were in power the pendulum should still be swinging away from them, but with the money they have, I suspect we’ll see another Republican majority. We survived Bush. We’ll survive President Rand Paul.

We shall see but I am cautiously optimistic too since reports of their death are often greatly exaggerated.

223 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:06:31am

re: #217 lawhawk

The law fundamentally undermines the speed limit laws currently in place and makes police enforcement next to impossible. It rewards those who drive aggressively, recklessly, and dangerously above the speed limit.

How anyone thinks that this is a good idea is beyond me.

Sounds like the opposite approach to what PA does. Their law is that cars that are not in the process of passing should move over to the right lane in multi-lane divided highways. And the police are empowered to issue a ticket for failure to not do so. (Worth 2 points towards losing your license IIRC.)

Not some unenforceable and ludicrous requirement for cars to speed up.

224 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:08:08am

re: #223 Feline Fearless Leader

Many states have a “stay right except for passing” law. NJ and NY both have that, particularly on the NYS Thruway/ NJ Turnpike/GSP.

225 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:09:02am

re: #217 lawhawk

The law fundamentally undermines the speed limit laws currently in place and makes police enforcement next to impossible. It rewards those who drive aggressively, recklessly, and dangerously above the speed limit.

How anyone thinks that this is a good idea is beyond me.

The people who want it either like to drive too fast, or think forcing others to drive faster will be easier than trying to force the speed demons to slow down.

226 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:09:06am

Another photo of that Harlem explosion:

227 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:09:17am

re: #224 lawhawk

Many states have a “stay right except for passing” law. NJ and NY both have that, particularly on the NYS Thruway/ NJ Turnpike/GSP.

And NJ doesn’t need the “except for left turns” part since 90% of the time you do *all* turns from the right lane.

;)

228 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:11:07am

re: #217 lawhawk

The law fundamentally undermines the speed limit laws currently in place and makes police enforcement next to impossible. It rewards those who drive aggressively, recklessly, and dangerously above the speed limit.

How anyone thinks that this is a good idea is beyond me.

We’re talking about the land of TruckNutz here…

229 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:11:45am

It’s quite possible that the Harlem explosion is a natural gas explosion. FDNY on scene working to fight fire and to conduct rescue/search operations.

newyork.cbslocal.com

230 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:12:12am
231 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:14:13am

Regarding the missing Malaysia Airlines flight, I came across this:

A group of fishermen found a life raft bearing the word “Boarding” 10 nautical miles from Port Dickson town at 12pm yesterday.

One of the fishermen, Azman Mohamad, 40, said they found the badly damaged raft floating and immediately notified the Kuala Linggi Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Malacca for assistance to lift the raft as it was very heavy.

“We managed to tie it to our boat as we feared it would sink due to the damages,” he said.

When the MMEA boat arrived, the fishermen then handed over the raft into their custody.

However, a Kuala Linggi MMEA spokesman said the raft sunk into the sea while they were trying to bring the raft onboard.

This is a photo of the raft; I have to admit, I can’t tell whether it looks like something that came off a plane or a ship.

Life raft found off Port Dickson, Malaysia, 90 km NW of Kuala Lumpur

232 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:14:50am

re: #221 GunstarGreen

Actual Georgia HB 459, a.k.a. the “Slowpoke Bill”.

Stricken section (emphasis mine):

Replaced with:

Literally, what this bill does is specifically >legally require you to speed in order to maintain your lane.

(There’s also an added section about not driving so slow as to impede traffic, but again, we already have minimum speed limits posted)

I think this is what happens when state legis become infested with the ignorant RWNJs who don’t know anything about law-making. They don’t bother to do research, or even to have a staff that knows how to research and craft those laws, either. Incredible that this POS didn’t die in committee.

The same thing is happening to some degree in the NC Gen Assembly, which has been taken over by the same kind of people. But we do have a law in NC that you must move to the right to allow faster traffic on a multiple laned hwy, iirc.

233 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:15:29am


At least 11 minor injuries reported thus far.

Debris flung quite a distance; blown out windows all around immediate area of explosion.

234 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:19:38am

Here we go again.

235 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:19:56am

re: #229 lawhawk

It’s quite possible that the Harlem explosion is a natural gas explosion. FDNY on scene working to fight fire and to conduct rescue/search operations.

newyork.cbslocal.com

Yeah, we have to remember there are a lot of 100+ yr old bldgs in NYC, and surely not all of them are up to code. Infrastructure all over the country needs upgrading, and it’s not being done, and not all of it is the responsibility of the govt to do, either. Deregulation and privatization has probably allowed some of it to age without improvements as well.

236 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:20:24am

Reading the latest GG exposé now. It seems the alleged NSA computer infiltration is intended for computers overseas, and not within the USA. So, in other words, GG is reporting that the NSA continues to fulfill its mission, but using many more words than I have.

firstlook.org

Looks like more stuff extracted from PowerPoint slides, judging from the graphics being used.

237 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:20:31am

re: #233 lawhawk

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At least 11 minor injuries reported thus far.

Debris flung quite a distance; blown out windows all around immediate area of explosion.

Wow. At the time it happened, I was up in the 92nd street Y, working on the heavy bag. Didn’t hear anything.

At least they’re near a ton of great hospitals.

238 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:20:32am

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Here we go again.

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HURR HURR!!!!! JOURNALISM!!!!!!

239 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:20:39am

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Here we go again.

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And there will never be a “correction”, either. : )

240 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:21:37am

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Here we go again.

You got there before I did, Speedy Gonzalez.

241 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:22:24am

re: #239 Justanotherhuman

And there will never be a “correction”, either. : )

WE ARE TEH JOURNALISTS DOING TEH GREATEST JOURNALISM TAHT TEH WORLD HAS EVER SCENE!!!!! WHO RR U??? HOW MUCH JOURNALISM U DONE!!!!! HURR HURR WE RR BETTER THEN U!!!! U DRIVELING OBAMA SNOT.

242 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:24:36am

re: #231 Dr Lizardo

Regarding the missing Malaysia Airlines flight, I came across this:

This is a photo of the raft; I have to admit, I can’t tell whether it looks like something that came off a plane or a ship.

Life raft found off Port Dickson, Malaysia, 90 km NW of Kuala Lumpur

Did a Google search and found Seago Liferafts “designed for extended offshore cruising and racing. “

243 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:24:43am

re: #234 Charles Johnson


The millions are supposition. They keep changing the numbers around, without any context. And how many computers are there worldwide? Billions? Currently they claim that the NSA has tagged 85,000 to 100,000 computers for their efforts, but want to scale that up.

As if trying to gain intel on foreign countries is a bad thing. Or that no one else is doing this? It’s again a combination of sensationalism, paranoia, and naivete to think that only the NSA does this, or that we shouldn’t be doing this at all.

244 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:26:08am
245 Ian G.  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:26:22am

I don’t want to jump the gun as the news is still developing, but if there are no fatalities in that explosion, it’s a freakin’ miracle.

246 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:26:30am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did a Google search and found Seago Liferafts “designed for extended offshore cruising and racing. “

Good catch.

247 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:26:50am

Okay heading to the hospital soon. Exciting day here as I said. Everyone have a good day.

248 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:27:03am

re: #243 lawhawk

The millions are supposition. They keep changing the numbers around, without any context. And how many computers are there worldwide? Billions? Currently they claim that the NSA has tagged 85,000 to 100,000 computers for their efforts, but want to scale that up.

As if trying to gain intel on foreign countries is a bad thing. Or that no one else is doing this? It’s again a combination of sensationalism, paranoia, and naivete to think that only the NSA does this, or that we shouldn’t be doing this at all.

I will note here that anything NSA is purportedly doing to computers abroad, the Chinese and Russians (among others) already do to computers within their own borders. Yet, GG & Co. are surprisingly silent about it.

249 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:27:24am

re: #237 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yup. Mount Sinai and Columbia Presbyterian are nearby. Bellevue is further downtown, but is another major trauma center. So far it looks like many of the injuries are minor - walking wounded type injuries probably from shattered glass and flying debris, but there’s a good chance people were trapped in the building that collapsed.

250 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:27:42am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

Good catch.

There’s so much trash in the oceans, this is going to happen a lot.

251 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:28:54am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yup, the investigation so far has revealed quite a few oil slicks and debris fields that have nothing to do with the plane crash. People throw/dispose of lots of stuff in the ocean without caring about what happens to it. This search has revealed just the tip of that iceberg.

252 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:28:56am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s so much trash in the oceans, this is going to happen a lot.

Unfortunately, the ocean is all too often treated as a massive garbage dump, so most likely, all kinds of detritus is going to turn up in the search for this missing aircraft.

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:30:14am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately, the ocean is all too often treated as a massive garbage dump, so most likely, all kinds of detritus is going to turn up in the search for this missing aircraft.

Just imagine if a plane went down in the Pacific Gyre.

They would never find it, ever.

254 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:30:29am
255 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:35:59am

Here’s a short video at the Harlem scene.

instagram.com

256 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:37:20am

Here is the building that exploded

257 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:37:33am

Another photo from Instagram:

instagram.com

258 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:40:10am

re: #256 NJDhockeyfan

Here is the building that exploded

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More on this bldg, built in 1910.

emporis.com

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:40:53am
260 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:44:51am
261 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:45:50am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

262 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:46:23am

More on 1646 Park Ave which housed 6 families, and stores on ground floor

Property description: The property (parcel id 1016220036) located at 1646 Park Ave, Manhattan, NY 10035 has one building built in 1910 and is zoned R7-2. 1646 Park Ave, Manhattan, NY 10035 is in the Harlem-East neighborhood of Manhattan. The building size is approximately 8,495 sq ft (789.21 m2) on 5 floors. The building at 1646 Park Ave, Manhattan, NY 10035 is a WALK-UP APT; OVER SIX FAMILIES WITH STORES.

fastaddressinfo.com

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:47:10am

re: #261 lawhawk

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awful

264 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:48:33am

Can someone find the original photo that wingnuts are spamming as “Benghazi”? I think it is from Syria 2009.

265 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:49:20am

re: #251 lawhawk

Yup, the investigation so far has revealed quite a few oil slicks and debris fields that have nothing to do with the plane crash. People throw/dispose of lots of stuff in the ocean without caring about what happens to it. This search has revealed just the tip of that iceberg.

I’ve been reading and hearing more and more about trash in the oceans. Once again…man is the worst thing to happen to earth.

And people that fight against the concept of climate change and that man can have no bearing…point out this trash and use it as an example of how man can be the fuck up. I guess the Exxon Valdez and the BP Gulf Oil leaks aren’t good enough examples of man fucking up.

And God supposedly created man in his own image. Yeah, right. Maybe God has old ‘fridges, a rusted old stove and a ‘69 Olds 442 up on blocks in the oily dirt around his place. Is that heaven???

266 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:51:18am

Live video stream from site of building explosion.

abclocal.go.com

267 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:52:36am

I’m definitely leaning towards a gas leak being the source of the explosion in Harlem.

268 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:52:58am

Beyoncé’s new video will encourage ‘girls of color’ to get pregnant and is ‘exploitative garbage’: Bill O’Reilly launches tirade against pop superstar

Bill O’Reilly has launched an unprovoked attack on Beyoncé’s latest video, labeling the work ‘exploitative garbage’ and suggested that it will encourage teenage pregnancy among African American girls.

Confronting hip hop mogul Rusell Simmons on Monday night, the Fox News host appeared outraged at explicit imagery of Beyoncé having sex in a car and referencing Monica Lewinsky in her Partition video.

O’Reilly said the video ‘glorifies having sex in the back of a limousine,’ and then warmed to his point saying, ‘Teenage girls look up to Beyoncé, particularly girls of color. She’s an idol to them,” he continued. “I’m saying: Why on earth would this woman do that?

‘Why would she do it when she knows the devastation that unwanted pregnancies - and fractured families - why would Beyoncé do that?’

So, O’Reilly’s ranting is:

A. Religiously inspired censorialism.

B. Breitbartian “Big Hollywood” anti-pop culture raving.

C. Somewhat veiled anti-black trolling.

D. Both A and B.

E. Both A and C.

F. Both B and C.

G. A, B, and C.

H. Rand Paul

269 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 7:55:20am
270 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:01:03am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Beyoncé’s new video will encourage ‘girls of color’ to get pregnant and is ‘exploitative garbage’: Bill O’Reilly launches tirade against pop superstar

So, O’Reilly’s ranting is:

A. Religiously inspired censorialism.

B. Breitbartian “Big Hollywood” anti-pop culture raving.

C. Somewhat veiled anti-black trolling.

D. Both A and B.

E. Both A and C.

F. Both B and C.

G. A, B, and C.

H. Rand Paul

There really is no credible answer for anything regarding Bill O’Really.

271 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:01:46am

The newest little Overlord,

272 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:02:13am

273 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:02:58am

re: #272 Pie-onist Overlord

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Congrats.

274 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:03:35am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Old man Billo yells at clouds. Film at 11.

275 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:03:50am
276 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:03:53am

re: #267 lawhawk

I’m definitely leaning towards a gas leak being the source of the explosion in Harlem.

You are correct.

277 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:07:17am

I find it amazing and astonishing that Bill O’Reilly can speak on behalf of a man that has been dead for 149 years. *golf clap*

278 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:08:05am

re: #272 Pie-onist Overlord

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FYI. Too young for pie.

Congrats! :)

279 compound_Idaho  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:08:05am

re: #217 lawhawk

The law fundamentally undermines the speed limit laws currently in place and makes police enforcement next to impossible. It rewards those who drive aggressively, recklessly, and dangerously above the speed limit.

How anyone thinks that this is a good idea is beyond me.

Something similar has been the law in Idaho for as long as I have driven. If you are delaying 3 or more vehicles, the law requires you to pull over and let them pass.
imagine being stuck behind someone driving 25 mph for 4 hours

280 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:09:15am
281 blueraven  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:09:32am

I fear the injuries may be bystanders.

If there were people in that building, it is hard to imagine them getting out…unless they were aware of the possible gas leak.

282 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:10:46am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

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Does it say how the 7-year-old lost a leg? Factory floor accident?

283 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:12:21am

re: #282 Pie-onist Overlord

Does it say how the 7-year-old lost a leg? Factory floor accident?

I’d guess polio.

284 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:13:04am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

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Different bldg. Evidently, the one finished in 1910 replaced that one.

285 kirkspencer  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:13:50am

re: #248 wheat-dogghazi

I will note here that anything NSA is purportedly doing to computers abroad, the Chinese and Russians (among others) already do to computers >within their own borders. Yet, GG & Co. are surprisingly silent about it.

Point of order. “They do it” is the argument of children and the MBF. So what?

I have reached the point where anywhere the MBF appears, I start wondering at the actual strength of that side’s arguments.

286 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:14:16am

re: #279 compound_Idaho

Something similar has been the law in Idaho for as long as I have driven. If you are delaying 3 or more vehicles, the law requires you to pull over and let them pass.
imagine being stuck behind someone driving 25 mph for 4 hours

That’s always something to pay attention to in a number of parks in Colorado and elsewhere. Narrow and winding roads with a low speed limit and very few (if any) pull-offs. And you get stuck behind a Winnebago. Along with forty other vehicles.

287 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:15:22am
288 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:16:45am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

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Here is the complete article. I suspect it was a wooden tenement at the time of that fire.

query.nytimes.com

289 blueraven  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:18:10am

re: #285 kirkspencer

Point of order. “They do it” is the argument of children and the MBF. So what?

I have reached the point where anywhere the MBF appears, I start wondering at the actual strength of that side’s arguments.

I don’t think “they do it” is the argument.
I think the hypocrisy of the reporting is.

290 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:18:14am

re: #285 kirkspencer

Point of order. “They do it” is the argument of children and the MBF. So what?

I have reached the point where anywhere the MBF appears, I start wondering at the actual strength of that side’s arguments.

I think the point of “other nations do it” in this case is not to excuse the NSA doing it. It’s that Greenwald & Co. is screaming and pointing about the US doing it* while ignoring that they are not alone in doing so. Error by omission - and apparently driven by some sort of “Everything the US does is bad” narrative requirement.

* - And also noted that the NSA is not doing it domestically, but only abroad, which is legal and following what they are essentially directed to do. Which, of course, is not mentioned until paragraph 20, if mentioned at all.

291 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:20:38am

Two bldgs collapsed. People missing, and may be more dead.

At Least One Person Killed in East Harlem Building Collapse

nytimes.com

“At least one person was killed when two buildings collapsed in East Harlem on Wednesday morning, according to authorities, and a senior city official suggested that there would most likely be more fatalities.

“Witnesses reported hearing what sounded like an explosion before the buildings collapsed. Flames and smoke could be seen billowing from the street, and the force of the damage blew out windows in neighboring buildings.

“At least 16 people were injured, including four seriously, according to city officials. The police said that two residential buildings — 1644 and 1646 Park Avenue — had collapsed.”

292 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:21:47am
Paul has an op-ed in Breitbart’s “Big Peace” weakly making the case that Ronald Reagan was more dovish than you think, and pleading against his critics, “splintering the party is not the route to victory.

An op-ed in Breitbart should be an automatic disqualification for the presidency.

293 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:24:55am

re: #285 kirkspencer

The GG argument is that the US is spying on millions of computers worldwide. The actual number is 85-100k at present, and Greenwald hedges in that they’re likely to scale up.

The headline and reality are off by a factor of 10. 85,000 to 100,000 is 10 times less than the millions claimed in the sensationalist headline.

Who are the targets of these computer efforts?

It’s not just terrorists, though that’s still a significant portion of the effort. It’s also countries. Not just Axis of Evil types like Iran, Syria, or North Korea, but those that have interests at odds with the US, including China and Russia.

The naivete of GG acolytes in thinking that everyone is being spied upon by the US and NSA efforts is staggering. That naivete extends to the blind spot for foreign countries doing the same exact thing, or attempting to do the same thing that the NSA efforts exposed by Snowden were purporting to do.

The US has legitimate security interests in trying to figure out what the regime in Iran or North Korea is doing, or what the Russians or Chinese are doing with their military forces, economic policies, what the politicians know, when they learned, and how/if they differ from their public pronouncements.

All this is ignored by the Dudebros, who think that their own computers could be targeted (or worry that the NSA is overstepping its bounds by… targeting foreign country computers).

Doesn’t make this a MBF (that everyone does it).

There are legitimate reasons the US needs to spy on countries, or individuals, and the GG/dudebros argument is that US spying is bad, there isn’t any oversight (which has been later modified to mean inadequate oversight - though they conflate that repeatedly), and consistently misrepresenting what the US is actually doing vis a vis its national intelligence gathering means and methods.

294 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:25:41am

re: #270 ObserverArt

There really is no credible answer for anything regarding Bill O’Really.

Amazingly, Bill-O was once the voice of “moderation” when Glenn Beck was there doing his schtick.

295 kirkspencer  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:27:24am

re: #290 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the point of “other nations do it” in this case is not to excuse the NSA doing it. It’s that Greenwald & Co. is screaming and pointing about the US doing it* while ignoring that they are not alone in doing so. Error by omission - and apparently driven by some sort of “Everything the US does is bad” narrative requirement.

* - And also noted that the NSA is not doing it domestically, but only abroad, which is legal and following what they are essentially directed to do. Which, of course, is not mentioned until paragraph 20, if mentioned at all.

If I think there’s a problem in location A and am reporting it (right or wrong), it is in my opinion an appearance of the MBF to have my detractors tell everyone that “Hey, B/C/D do it and Kirk never mentions them. Ignore him.”

GG et al have enough problems (those you mentioned for example). But the “look over there, they do it too/worse and you never talk about them” is the MBF.

296 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:29:02am

It happened around 9 a.m. at Park Avenue on 116th Street, the FDNY said. One of the buildings that collapsed had a piano repair shop with apartments above. The second building housed a church.

Residents in area had smelled gas prior to the explosion.

297 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:29:57am

re: #289 blueraven

I don’t think “they do it” is the argument.
I think the hypocrisy of the reporting is.

That was my intent in bringing it up.

298 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:30:49am
299 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:31:08am

It appears that 1644 Park Ave was the address of the “Spanish Christian Church, Inc.” but I think it was only one actual bldg. They may have just used the 1644 to separate themselves from the other business.

yelp.com

I’m not getting the idea that anyone actually knew what businesses operated on the ground floor of that bldg (we’ve seen photos which appear to be older), but there were supposedly 8 apts on the 2-5 floors, 2 on each floor.

300 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:31:47am
301 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:32:54am

re: #271 Pie-onist Overlord

The newest little Overlord,

Chubby cheeks!

302 kirkspencer  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:33:28am

Once more - I am not defending GG et al. (I’m actually still doing my own research. I think there’s some legitimacy, but he and his have buried the gold in a mountain of crap. OTOH I’m not sure enough that there’s gold in that mountain to defend it yet.)

My objection is to a particular argument used to dismiss his mountain of crap.

Specifically, China/Russia/France/Israel/Iran does it too, and worse.

Bad argument. “Hey look over there.”

As I said it gets used enough that my instinct is to wonder if it’s the argument of someone who’s run out of legitimate points or if it’s one of those pushing misdirection.

And again, one of my reasons is that there is some indication gold in the mountain. Such as a senator reporting intel is prying into oversight records. It may yet turn out to be fool’s gold - I do not know enough yet to say. But it’s the reason I’m suspicious of bad arguments.

303 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:35:19am

re: #299 Justanotherhuman

OK, I see this photo here. But while you can get info on 1646 when googling, there is no info on 1644 except to show the Spanish church. It does look like 2 bldgs, though.

nydailynews.com

304 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:38:21am

Hoaxster comes forward in Connecticut State Police protest letter

guns.com has made contact with the hoaxster behind the catfished Connecticut State Police protest letter story reported on earlier today. The reasons for his humbug may interest you.

The man, who wishes to be identified only as Jim V and advises works in the Tech industry in California, provided a statement to guns.com via email. In it he asks that readers confirm what they read, stating:

I wrote the article with a total disregard for the facts. That did not stop bloggers around the internet from posting and reposting, citing blatant falsehoods without doing basic fact checking. The story became reality for many people, probably thousands, who were victims of the belief that they could believe anything they read on the internet. While this story did not make it to major news outlets, it would not have been a stretch had effort been put into creating a more legitimate article. I hope that this story will open our eyes to the fact that we cannot trust whatever we read or hear, and that intelligent people must do their own fact checking. How much of what we accept as truth is no more legitimate than this story?

guns.com verified the hoaxster’s identity by having him provide the login information to the e-zines website that he published the spurious article on March 10. The article was soon picked up and reported through a number of blogs over the weekend without independent verification. Jim advised that the hoax also made an important second point.

“The story illustrates a second point, the fact that there would be broad public support for law enforcement officers refusing to enforce an unconstitutional law,” he wrote. “I hope that this story will serve as an encouragement to any officers who are opposed to the law, and help them to have the courage to take a stand against it.”

I’d actually admire this guy if it weren’t for that last paragraph. I don’t like the Connecticut law in question either, but law scale refusal to enforce a duly passed law by police seems to me the way to anarchy.

305 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:39:12am

Meanwhile, it looks like terrorists in Gaza are unleashing a significant barrage of rockets/mortars against Israel. At least 20, and some reports 30+ fired against Israel. Israeli communities in range are issuing warnings/alerts.

306 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:41:40am

This is the owner, Carl Demler? He is a “piano man”.

With Building’s Sale, Piano Row Will Lose Another Key

cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com

307 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:42:10am

re: #295 kirkspencer

If I think there’s a problem in location A and am reporting it (right or wrong), it is in my opinion an appearance of the MBF to have my detractors tell everyone that “Hey, B/C/D do it and Kirk never mentions them. Ignore him.”

GG et al have enough problems (those you mentioned for example). But the “look over there, they do it too/worse and you never talk about them” is the MBF.

My point in bringing up China, aside from the fact that I live there, is not to invoke the MBF. It was to note that the very things GG is so hot under the collar about the NSA doing happen every day in the countries to which his wonderboy Snowden fled to. I find it particularly aggravating that GG says not one word about the Great Firewall of China, about the Chinese censorship of the local version of Twitter, and arrests of online dissidents and journalists in China and Russia. It’s as if he wears a set of blinkers that only allow him to see the USA, as an entity separate from the larger context of the world.

Furthermore, he deliberately conflates the NSA surveillance of foreign communications with domestic surveillance programs, real or hypothetical, with the implication that the NSA is spying on American citizens. To my knowledge, however, no one in the USA has had his Twitter feed deleted by the government or been arrested and thrown in jail for online commentary, nor does the US government block entire web domains. It’s a lot of Chicken Little running around saying the sky is falling, when in fact it isn’t.

If you want to accuse me of invoking the MBF, fine. I am just in a different situation from yours, and GG’s “USA bad, everyone else, what?” just pisses me off.

308 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:44:49am
309 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:47:25am

re: #302 kirkspencer
re: #307 wheat-dogghazi

And, one more point. I am not saying. “look over there!” My intent was not to diminish GG’s revelations, which are strikingly detailed (but devoid of corroboration). I did not say his stuff was crap. Don’t put words in my mouth, thanks very much.

310 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:48:15am

re: #306 Justanotherhuman

This is the owner, Carl Demler? He is a “piano man”.

With Building’s Sale, Piano Row Will Lose Another Key

cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com

Since that’s a story about him selling it, no, he’s not the owner.

Carl Demler, the owner of the building and the store — Beethoven Pianos — said he was selling the building to the Extell Development Corporation, which bought the building next door several years ago and has recently torn it down.

311 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:49:03am

re: #308 lawhawk

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312 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:50:52am

re: #310 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Since that’s a story about him selling it, no, he’s not the owner.

My father’s family lived in NYC from the mid-1840s on. I know two addresses where they oncelived. Neither of those buildings now exists. They’ve long since been torn down and replaced with newer residential high rises.

313 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:52:06am

re: #308 lawhawk

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It looks like Islamic Jihad is hankering for a beat-down.

314 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:52:17am

re: #308 lawhawk

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But teh AIPAC!

315 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:53:30am

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

It looks like Islamic Jihad is hankering for a beat-down.

Kinda like this

316 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:53:33am

I wonder who is supplying them with rockets? //

317 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:54:19am

And this is a problem BECAUSE?

318 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:54:54am

re: #316 Gus

I wonder who is supplying them with rockets? //

Well, Israel did just seize a big shipment of rockets from Iran, so I gather IJ is rather butthurt about that.

319 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:55:04am

re: #316 Gus

I wonder who is supplying them with rockets? //


Obama!
Obama!

320 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:55:52am

Yesterday, I remarked that St. John the Divine has an architectural tour, and it’s similar to the tour offered of parts of Notre Dame in Paris. Today, I came across a report about how Notre Dame has upgraded its internal lighting, giving visitors a new and brighter experience all while cutting power consumption by 80%.

321 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:58:42am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Beyoncé’s new video will encourage ‘girls of color’ to get pregnant and is ‘exploitative garbage’: Bill O’Reilly launches tirade against pop superstar

So, O’Reilly’s ranting is:

A. Religiously inspired censorialism.

B. Breitbartian “Big Hollywood” anti-pop culture raving.

C. Somewhat veiled anti-black trolling.

D. Both A and B.

E. Both A and C.

F. Both B and C.

G. A, B, and C.

H. Rand Paul

WE ARE THE PARTY OF FREEDOM™ AND LIBERTY™ AND WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO ANYTHING THAT I DISAGREE WITH!??!!?11/1?!!?1/1?!?!!?/!?1/!?1?!?

322 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:59:15am

re: #310 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

No, he was the owner of the 57th st. bldg, which is what that story was about from last year; that story was not about the Park Ave store.

Two different bldgs.

323 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:59:16am

re: #316 Gus

I wonder who is supplying them with rockets? //

Moderates!

324 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:59:40am

Oh look…

325 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 8:59:58am
326 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:00:16am
327 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:00:55am

re: #317 Pie-onist Overlord

Is this for salaried workers, or hourly workers? Salaried workers have never been eligible for overtime before, much to our dismay.

328 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:01:00am

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

SUCKS

.A RAPIDLY DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL MOVE THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY AND SPREAD A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN ALONG AND SOUTH OF I 69. THE BAND WILL BE PERSISTENT ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE I 69 CORRIDOR AND HAVE A SHARP EDGE GOING NORTH FROM THERE. THE PEAK OF THE EVENT WILL ENCOMPASS THE REMAINDER OF THE MORNING COMMUTE IN THE FLINT AREA AND THE ENTIRE DETROIT METRO AREA. TOTAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE BETWEEN 4 AND 8 INCHES BETWEEN M 46 AND I 69… AND BETWEEN 8 AND 10 INCHES SOUTH OF I 69. THE HEAVY SNOW WILL COMBINE WITH THE STRONG NORTHEAST WINDS TO CREATE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW THROUGH THE DAY.

The heaviest will be here in NW PA later this afternoon. Probably just in time for me to drive through it going home from work.

329 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:01:27am

Alternet. Heh.

330 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:02:06am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

Well, Israel did just seize a big shipment of rockets from Iran, so I gather IJ is rather butthurt about that.

Doubt the PIJ attack has anything to do with the capture of the weapons-carrying ship laden with Iranian weapons destined for Gaza. Iron Dome intercepted at least 3 of the rockets.

Indeed, the Israelis hit a PIJ cell after that cell fired on an Israeli patrol with mortars:

On Tuesday, the Israel Air Force struck an Islamic Jihad cell in southern Gaza, minutes after identifying it as being behind a mortar attack on an IDF unit on the Gaza-Israel border.

According to military sources, the terrorists fired a mortar shell at soldiers who were conducting routine security measures near the frontier.

Islamic Jihad said the Israeli strike killed three of its operatives. The IDF confirmed the aircraft’s hit on the terrorist cell, and said that the aircraft had then returned safely to its base. The army added that it would not tolerate any attack on military forces operating along the border.

Islamic Jihad has been behind a trickle of attacks in recent days that have tested the cease-fire in place between Palestinian terrorist groups in Gaza and Israel.

This is part of the tit-for-tat that PIJ has been carrying out over the past week or so.

PIJ is doing this, and it would appear to be condoned by Hamas. Internal dynamics in Gaza means that no one does anything without Hamas knowing. Hamas doesn’t want anyone challenging them for power, and terrorists hitting at Israel would suggest that Hamas isn’t going hard enough after Israel. So, there’s that dynamic at play as well.

Now, this could also be part of the effort to hit at Israel, which just captured an arms shipment meant for Gaza, but it also reveals that Gaza keeps getting supplied despite efforts by Egypt and Israel to curb smuggling into the area.

331 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:03:11am

re: #321 GunstarGreen

WE ARE THE PARTY OF FREEDOMTM AND LIBERTYTM AND WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO ANYTHING THAT I DISAGREE WITH!??!!?11/1?!!?1/1?!?!!?/!?1/!?1?!?

To be fair, O’Reilly didn’t bring up political parties in this particular rant. It was much more of a “sick culture” theme. Though the “sick culture” theme is often associated with the Democrats in other segments of the show on other days.

332 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:04:53am

Peace now! Stop the fighting! No more military! Hey, hey, ho, ho, we need to stop Bibi’s war!

Rocket attack launched into Israel from Gaza.

Hey man, Israel had it coming to them.

333 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:06:30am

re: #326 Gus

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And once again Alternet sees its credibility damaged by a barking moonbat.

334 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:06:52am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

I’m coming at it more from an ‘internal consistency’ angle. Claiming to be all about FREEDOM™ and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY™ and then complaining when someone exercises their actual freedom and leaves it up to the viewers to exercise personal responsibility.

335 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:07:36am

re: #333 Dark_Falcon

And once again Alternet sees its credibility damaged by a barking moonbat.

Kane should just start wearing one of those fake uniform like the Bolivarians.

336 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:09:21am

re: #317 Pie-onist Overlord

And this is a problem BECAUSE?

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WASHINGTON —President Barack Obama is expected to order a rule change this week that would require employers to pay overtime to a larger number of salaried workers, two people familiar with the matter said.

Currently, many businesses aren’t required to pay overtime to certain salaried workers if they earn more than $455 a week, a level that was set in 2004 and comes to roughly $24,000 a year. The White House is expected to direct the Labor Department to raise that salary threshold, though it is unclear by how much.

Ross Eisenbrey, vice president of the liberal Economic Policy Institute, and Jared Bernstein, a former White House economist, recently proposed the limit be increased to $984 a week, or roughly $50,000 a year…

337 Gus  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:10:58am

Massive fire in San Francisco yesterday. Massive explosion and fire in Harlem this morning. Guess no one will be making Tea Party/regulation jokes about this will they.

338 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:12:37am

re: #337 Gus

Massive fire in San Francisco yesterday. Massive explosion and fire in Harlem this morning. Guess no one will be making Tea Party/regulation jokes about this will they.

Nope, they’ll claim that it’s the heathens getting their just desserts (even if one of the buildings in Harlem was being used as a church). /

339 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:13:02am

re: #337 Gus

Massive fire in San Francisco yesterday. Massive explosion and fire in Harlem this morning. Guess no one will be making Tea Party/regulation jokes about this will they.

What sort of Tea Party/regulation jokes are you talking about?

340 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:14:42am

re: #334 GunstarGreen

I’m coming at it more from an ‘internal consistency’ angle. Claiming to be all about FREEDOMTM and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITYTM and then complaining when someone exercises their actual freedom and leaves it up to the viewers to exercise personal responsibility.

Well, this is different. You can’t really expect Negros to understand personal responsibility. We have to push know against these sick videos because otherwise we’ll have an increase in black teens getting pregnant which will mean a whole new generation of welfare queens!

I really wish I was kidding, but it seems clear some white people really do think this way. I actually think Bill O’ Reilly thinks in terms of ‘impressionable teenagers’ rather than ‘impulsive blacks’, but this sort of rant encourages those of his viewers who do think in racist terms..

341 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:15:13am

re: #338 lawhawk

Nope, they’ll claim that it’s the heathens getting their just desserts (even if one of the buildings in Harlem was being used as a church). /

If the information from above is correct, it looks like it might have been either a badly-installed gas line or a building failure that caused the gas explosion.

PG&E fucks this up all the time in the Bay Area, in San Bruno most dramatically.

en.wikipedia.org

342 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:23:40am

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

I’d actually admire this guy if it weren’t for that last paragraph. I don’t like the Connecticut law in question either, but law scale refusal to enforce a duly passed law by police seems to me the way to anarchy.

Of course that’s where it leads, DF.

Libertarians are anarchists who are dumb enough to think that they will come out on top after their little revolution. The ultra-rich would eat them alive and the rest would be serfs.

From the Pirkei Avos (C3,M2)

“Rabbi Chanina the deputy [High] Priest said: Pray for the welfare of the government (lit., monarchy), for if not for its fear, a person would swallow his fellow live.”

True then, true now, true in the future as well.

343 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:26:32am

That whistle frequency is getting lower—not only dogs can hear it now.

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:28:37am

“The culture of work” not working in order to get paid enough to support a family, but just “the dignity of work” as in “work will set you free” and “they were happy down on the old plantation!”

345 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:31:57am
346 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:32:56am

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

That whistle frequency is getting lower—not only dogs can hear it now.

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Inner city? Just come out and say black if that’s what he means. It’s certainly what he’s implying.

WFT Ryan? Seriously. WTF?

Cities are where most of the nation’s wealth is created. Yeah, you heard me. Cities drive the nation’s economy. And poverty is pervasive in rural areas, particularly in the South. That doesn’t mean that urban areas don’t have poverty, or significant pockets of poverty, but the fact that poverty is dispersed in rural areas doesn’t make it any less worrisome.

347 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:34:23am

Another,How come I didn’t know this?
Youtube Video

348 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:35:39am

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

That whistle frequency is getting lower—not only dogs can hear it now.

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“inner city” men

yeah, sure

*spit*

349 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:37:11am

350 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:44:54am
351 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:45:30am
352 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:46:55am

Remind everyone that the GOP, which keeps claiming that they’re not out to repeal Obamacare, is still intent to do just that:


50+ attempts aren’t enough. They’ll keep at it for the next two years, and thereafter. Because this is all the GOP has.

353 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:46:59am
354 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:49:14am

re: #321 GunstarGreen

WE ARE THE PARTY OF FREEDOMTM AND LIBERTYTM AND WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO ANYTHING THAT I DISAGREE WITH!??!!?11/1?!!?1/1?!?!!?/!?1/!?1?!?

didn’t they say the same thing about Cher?

355 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:50:40am

re: #352 lawhawk

Remind everyone that the GOP, which keeps claiming that they’re not out to repeal Obamacare, is still intent to do just that:

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50+ attempts aren’t enough. They’ll keep at it for the next two years, and thereafter. Because this is all the GOP has.

They keep telling themselves if they win in November, then they’ll be able to force the President to repeal the law. I’m not sure how they expect to do that, as they’re in no danger of winning veto-proof majorities in either house of Congress. And if they think that further dragging the country on the ground with shutdowns or even the threat of default is going to force him to see things their way, then they’re in for a rude awakening.

356 Kragar  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:52:07am

re: #352 lawhawk

Actually, it isn’t one more vote. They replaced a R with another R in a district which has been Republican for decades. Plus, the GOP shit all over their guy so if he lost, they could claim the reason he lost was because he wasn’t a good candidate, now they’re bragging he won?

357 GunstarGreen  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:52:50am

re: #355 Targetpractice

Why would they be? There was a significant chunk of the country that bought, wholesale, their line that it was really the Democrats/Obama that were responsible for the shutdown. Because that’s what the rubes want to believe.

358 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:53:17am

re: #356 Kragar

Actually, it isn’t one more vote. They replaced a R with another R in a distrcit which has been Republican for decades. Plus, the GOP shit all over their guy so if he lost, they could claim the reason he lost was because he wasn’t a good candidate, now they’re bragging he won?

Gotta do really good things for his sense of loyalty to the GOP too.

359 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:54:19am

What is the resolution of the human eye? Surprisingly hard to answer well.

An attempt to sort that out. Paged.

360 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:55:02am

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

That whistle frequency is getting lower—not only dogs can hear it now.

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Funny how the states with the biggest cities (and therefore biggest inner cities) still manage to have less poverty than the southern states, including Texas with its tremendous agriculture & oil wealth.

Areas With Concentrated Poverty: 2006-2010 (PDF)

Now compare with the following from Wikipedia:

2012 Presidential election results

Party control of Governors’ offices (as of January 2013)

361 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:55:09am

Is this the video Bill is all upset about?

Looks like a women trying to seduce her husband to me - I guess that is a bad thing

Youtube Video

362 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:55:38am

re: #351 NJDhockeyfan

That’s not exactly what Steinitz said.

Steinitz has said that if the rocket attacks persist from Gaza, Israel may invade and topple Hamas, giving power back to Fatah.

Israel has no interest in reoccupying Gaza.

But the idea of giving power back to Fatah isn’t particularly comforting either. Fatah couldn’t hold power in Gaza, and was booted in the Palestinian civil war that led to Hamas assuming power there. Fatah remains in control of the West Bank civil administrative areas. There’s no indication that Fatah could retain control in Gaza even if it was handed the power. Hamas is deeply entrenched, and it would result in significant casualties in Gaza, as well as put many Israelis in harms’ way if Hamas fired off its longer range rockets/missiles.

My guess is we’ll continue to see retaliatory strikes for attacks against Israelis (the tit-for-tat), avoiding a larger scale effort.

363 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:00:13am

re: #362 lawhawk

I wonder how things might have changed with the Muslim Bros out of power in Egypt. The new Egyptian government is finally shutting down the smuggling tunnels and has a serious interest in getting terrorists out of Gaza. I recall that Israel tried to get Egypt to take administrative control of Gaza after the pull out but the Egyptians declined. The new Egyptian government might be more interested in such an arrangement now.

364 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:02:50am

Metro North dodged a bullet this morning with the explosion in the building adjacent to their tracks to Grand Central. If a train had been in the vicinity of the explosion, the number of casualties could have been much higher from flying debris.

Service has been suspended since this morning’s explosion. Be thankful for that.

There’s still a number of people unaccounted for. Mayor DeBlasio’s holding a presser, and indicated that ConEd was responding to reports of gas leaks when the explosion occurred.

De Blasio said there are also a number people still missing from the blast, but said some may have fled to safety. He said once the fire is out, a thorough search will be conducted for anyone who may be trapped in the rubble.

“Our hearts go out to all the families involved,” he said. “We are spending every effort to locate each and every loved one.”

He said a hotline was being set up. In the meantime, he said worried relatives can call 311.

Video from the scene showed huge flames and heavy smoke as hundreds of firefighters battled the five-alarm blaze. Debris and rubble could be seen scattered all over the area.

365 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:06:12am

re: #307 wheat-dogghazi

[snip]


If you want to accuse me of invoking the MBF, fine. I am just in a different situation from yours, and GG’s “USA bad, everyone else, what?” just pisses me off.

I don’t believe pointing out that others do this is MBF either. I see it more as a warning that we NEED to do this or fall far behind in intelligence with these other nations (putting us at risk). I also see GG and SnowBlower as a threat to our national security because of their shit, and I will leave out exactly what I think should be done to person(s) that are a threat to our national security.

366 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:08:55am

I guess Bill doesn’t approve of a woman in unashamed of being sexually attracted to her husband.
Youtube Video

367 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:14:48am

I’m seeing this same issue with comments running outside their “box” and overlapping later comments and the bottom of the page. Seems to occur just after comments with multiple pictures embedded in them.

(Running Firefox on Win XP pro machine)

368 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:29:52am

re: #366 FemNaziBitch

I guess Bill doesn’t approve of a woman in unashamed of being sexually attracted to her husband.
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He’s just pissed a loofah wasn’t involved.


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