Founder of Westboro Baptist Hate Cult “On the Edge of Death”

After causing grievous harm to many, many people at their worst moments
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One of the most horrible, hateful people in the United States is reportedly “on the edge of death.”

The estranged son of the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church said his father is “on the edge of death.”

Fred Phelps Sr. became famous for organizing picket lines of brightly-colored signs carrying hateful messages against tolerance during the funerals of military personnel and famous figures. His actions led to at least two federal and several state laws restricting protests during military funerals.

In a statement on his Facebook page, Nathan Phelps, who has been estranged from his father for 30 years, said the senior Phelps was dying in hospice care in Topeka, Kan., and that he had been ex-communicated from his own church in August of 2013.

“I’m not sure how I feel about this. Terribly ironic that his devotion to his god ends this way. Destroyed by the monster he made,” Nathan Phelps wrote.

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202 comments
1 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:45:08am

God must hate him.

2 Kragar  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:45:52am

I’m curious as to why he got excommunicated from him own church, but as for him dying, I think I’ll simply say “Okay” and move on to other news.

3 Political Atheist  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:47:50am

I’ll say this, his absence will be sincerely appreciated by many including myself.

4 jhrhv  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:49:54am

Many would call this Karma.

5 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:50:00am

I hope his family, after his death, is able to shed his influence and get out from under the roiling cloud of hate.

6 Kragar  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:51:22am

In lieu of picketing, send a donation into a charity of your choice

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:52:21am

re: #1 NJDhockeyfan

God must hate him.

8 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:54:07am

Obdi, posthumous post in the dead thread below. I really would like you—maybe everyone—to read it…

9 Timothy Watson  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:56:03am

What a shame.

10 Testy Toad T  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 10:58:35am

I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.

(apparently not an actual quote of Mark Twain)

11 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:00:05am

re: #8 Chrysicat

Obdi, posthumous post in the dead thread below. I really would like you—maybe everyone—to read it…

And I really don’t think it matters in English.

12 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:00:14am

I’m in no rush to see the man die. He’s offensive, hateful, but unless he’s been committing crimes we don’t know of, he has a chance at reformation. An unlikely one, granted, but that chance is lost with him.

13 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:01:27am

Like it or not, you have to love your enemies.

14 Internet Tough Guy  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:03:10am

And not a single fuck was given that day.

15 Testy Toad T  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:04:43am

re: #13 SteveMcGazi

Like it or not, you have to love your enemies.

Truthfully, I really don’t.

I will grant you that I am not actively wishing the man pain. Considering everything appears to make Phelps Phelps, this is quite magnanimous enough from my point of view.

You’re certainly welcome to do so if you’d like.

16 Dr. Matt  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:05:21am

Satan awaits another resident.

17 Dr. Matt  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:06:33am

re: #13 SteveMcGazi

Like it or not, you have to love your enemies.

Says who? I don’t “have to” and I unequivocally don’t.

18 Political Atheist  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:09:50am

re: #12 SteveMcGazi

I’m in no rush to see the man die. He’s offensive, hateful, but unless he’s been committing crimes we don’t know of, he has a chance at reformation. An unlikely one, granted, but that chance is lost with him.

That’s how I strive to think, I manage it most of the time. I just don’t feel it with this guy honestly. Ordinarily I’d never post like what I did above.

His hate is just overwhelming. Too much damage done to already broken hearts.

19 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:11:11am

re: #13 SteveMcGazi

Like it or not, you have to love your enemies.

Well if by love mean won’t celebrate his death but I certainly won’t mourn him either. The guy and his deranged cult made life hell for people trying to mourn their deceased relations. Nothing outside a sincere apology and a total repudiation of his acts will fix that.

20 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:13:14am

re: Testy Toad T

It’s not for God’s sake or Fred’s sake but your own. It is arrogant to think you some way superior to the man so that you can write him off. You may be. I’m sure there is a line that you can draw and say that a man is not worthy of being loved, for example a killer or a rapist. All the yelling and counterpicketing in the world wouldn’t help this man, it would only harden his heart. The man needed to be shown what love really is. If he doesn’t get the message it is his loss. But by revelling in the man’s pain, I think you are only dragging yourself down a bit.

21 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:13:31am

re: #2 Kragar

I’m curious as to why he got excommunicated from him own church, but as for him dying, I think I’ll simply say “Okay” and move on to other news.

Maybe he went “soft” in his old age.

From the WBC site today:

And

Thank God for 4 more dead troops. We are praying for 4,000 more.

22 Snarknado!  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:15:22am

re: #11 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

And I really don’t think it matters in English.

I was going to weigh in on this downstairs — the reason Ukrainians wanted their country called “Ukraine” instead of “The Ukraine” is “to show that it’s not a colony.” But that’s not the way it works in English. (We use the article to show that it’s not a common noun — e.g., we don’t call our country United State of America instead of THE U.S. of A. to show it’s not a colony. )

(Also, someone asked about Jaunte’s posted picture of the election questions — as I said downstairs, I can’t read that whole page because it gets blurry, but the items #1 in the for and against sections do match the offered translation more or less.)

23 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:15:47am

re: #12 SteveMcGazi

I’m in no rush to see the man die. He’s offensive, hateful, but unless he’s been committing crimes we don’t know of, he has a chance at reformation. An unlikely one, granted, but that chance is lost with him.

That is what was so sad about Andrew Breitbart’s sudden departure. At 43, he should have had plenty of time, and he did have a lot of talent. There is no telling what changes he might have undergone in the next several decades.

24 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:16:31am

To take a scene from “Evan Almighty” when Lauren Graham is in a diner with her kids and Morgan Freeman comes along. He challenges her to consider this: If you pray for courage, does God give you courage or does he give you a chance to be brave?
Does God fill you with love or does He give you a chance to love somebody you don’t want to?

25 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:16:36am

Can’t say I’ll shed any tears, but I will at least express my condolences to the family.

26 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:16:40am

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

That is what was so sad about Andrew Breitbart’s sudden departure. At 43, he should have had plenty of time, and he did have a lot of talent. There is no telling what changes he might have undergone in the next several decades.

Many people have changed from worse.

27 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:17:17am

re: #21 Skip Intro

Maybe he went “soft” in his old age.

From the WBC site today:

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And

>Thank God for 4 more dead troops. We are praying for 4,000 more.

16 billion people killed in the Flood of Noah event? WTF? Where do they get that number from?!

28 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:17:23am

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

That is what was so sad about Andrew Breitbart’s sudden departure. At 43, he should have had plenty of time, and he did have a lot of talent. There is no telling what changes he might have undergone in the next several decades.

What’s sad about Phelps to me is he did have some good in him. From what I read, he was someone who did pro-bono work on Civil Rights as a younger man.

29 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:17:25am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Can’t say I’ll shed any tears, but I will at least express my condolences to the family.

Can’t see why. The family is hideous.

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:17:28am

I don’t give enough of a fuck to picket his funeral.

31 Kragar  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:17:46am

re: #21 Skip Intro

Maybe he went “soft” in his old age.

From the WBC site today:

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Wait, so according to them, at some point less than 6000 years ago, 16 Billion people lived on the Earth and were killed by “The Flood”?

Jesus H motherfucking Christ on a fucking crutch

32 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:18:05am

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

16 billion people killed in the Flood of Noah event? WTF? Where do they get that number from?!

From somebody’s ass. Not sure whose.

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:18:46am
34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:18:51am
35 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:19:03am

re: #31 Kragar

Wait, so according to them, at some point less than 6000 years ago, 16 Billion people lived on the Earth and were killed by “The Flood”?

Jesus H motherfucking Christ on a fucking crutch

They would have starved to death before they ever became sinful enough to rate mass drowning.

36 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:19:32am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

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He really needs to come out already.

37 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:19:35am

“Sodomy” according to Scripture, is cruelty to the poor and homeless.

38 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:19:58am

YOu know what I love to ask people about the flood? Where did all the water go?

39 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:20:08am

re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord

“Sodomy” according to Scripture, is cruelty to the poor and homeless.

So you mean to tell me that Bryan’s among the biggest sodomites ever by biblical standards, yeah I can buy that.

40 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:20:37am
41 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:20:41am

Sodomites raped wayfarers. That was their local custom.

42 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:20:47am

re: #38 SteveMcGazi

YOu know what I love to ask people about the flood? Where did all the water go?

My question is with all the species of termite, how the hell did it endure without being destroyed. Biblical literalism is a silly exercise though.

43 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:21:30am

Sodomites were Ayn Randian, AND they raped wayfarers.

NOTHING to do with Teh Ghey.

44 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:22:00am

A wasted life.

45 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:22:04am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan Fischer @BryanJFischer
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Founding Father Sam Adams was not a fan of sodomy. The Sam Adams brewing company should change its name or its values.

Go fuck a bear, Bryan (assuming you haven’t already tried).

46 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:22:16am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

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So basically Mr. Fischer is on the same page as Islamist governments such as the recent case of Ibrahim in Malaysia being sentenced to 5 years (on appeal) for “sodomy.”

47 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:22:30am

re: #44 jaunte

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A wasted life.

Or too much free time on their hands.

Way too much free time.

48 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:23:10am

Fred Phelps is a Democrat!

49 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:23:14am

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

Rather, several wasted lives.

50 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:23:30am

re: #44 jaunte

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A wasted life.

Freddie Fender?

51 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:23:34am

re: #29 Skip Intro

Can’t see why. The family is hideous.

It’s one of those rare moments of optimism I’m prone to, where I sit and think that there had to be somebody in the family who has a kind soul and is saddened to see the man expire.

52 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:23:37am

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

Or too much free time on their hands.

>Way too much free time.

Way too much money that could have been spent helping people used spreading hate. Phelps legacy is the guy was so toxic even the KKK found him repulsive.

53 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:23:59am

Think of the economic stimulus if they had gone bowling 52,000 times.

54 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:24:22am

re: #48 Gus

>Fred Phelps is a Democrat!

Yeah that one surely is coming even though his ideology was about as reactionary as you could get will be ignored by the conservatives who see that he was registered as a Dem and think oh liberal!

55 Testy Toad T  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:24:33am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

My question is with all the species of termite, how the hell did it endure without being destroyed. Biblical literalism is a silly exercise though.

Fire ants make floating rafts out of themselves, depending on surface tension to keep the lower ants able to breathe.

In this way they are able to ride out major floods and other disruptions (a technique they evolved in their native Amazon, where it is necessary for obvious reasons). Indeed, New Orleans noticed no real change in fire ant population densities, even after the post-Katrina flooding that persisted for some weeks.

Biblical literalism is obviously foolhardy, but that doesn’t mean ants aren’t cool!

56 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:24:48am

re: #53 jaunte

Think of the economic stimulus if they had gone bowling 52,000 times.

or had a pancake fry though that’s really more the Catholics.

57 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:24:51am

BREAKING: WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH HAS RELEASED A STATEMENT INDICATING THAT THEY WILL BE PICKETING FRED PHELPS’ FUNERAL.

A SPOKESMAN HAS TOLD THE AP, “GOD HATES FRED PHELPS.”

//

58 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:25:18am

re: #44 jaunte

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A wasted life.

You have to understand. This was posted after Phelps was “ex-communicated”. The WBC is still the same site of seething hate it’s always been.

59 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:26:21am

re: #48 Gus

>Fred Phelps is a Democrat!

He liked Al Gore in the 1980s because Gore was anti-gay.

60 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:27:16am

Fred Phelps is going to have a hell of a rude awakening when he realizes he wasted his life.

61 nines09  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:27:18am

Every living thing eventually dies. His death diminishes hate by one. I won’t pile on, even though ample opportunity exists.

62 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:27:43am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Yeah that one surely is coming even though his ideology was about as reactionary as you could get will be ignored by the conservatives who see that he was registered as a Dem and think oh liberal!

Yep, it’s coming. Guaranteed. At least for a little bit from Team Twitchy and the like.

63 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:27:59am
Russian First Channel TV has just reported Crimea referendum forecast: 93% for union with Russia.

Kim Jong Un scoffs at leaving 7% on the table.

64 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:28:24am

re: #51 Targetpractice

It’s one of those rare moments of optimism I’m prone to, where I sit and think that there had to be somebody in the family who has a kind soul and is saddened to see the man expire.

I can understand the saddened part, but I don’t see where the kind soul comes into it. The WBC is a family business, and the business model hasn’t changed at all.

65 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:28:38am

re: #59 Skip Intro

He liked Al Gore in the 1980s because Gore was anti-gay.

and conservative too. The ha ha Phelps supported Gore ergo Phelps is a lefty thing is stupid since Al Gore was probably the most right wing Democratic in the 1988 race. He had another right wing supporter that year. Some guy named Rick Perry.

66 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:29:10am

If Mr. Phelps is on his death bed odds are that his brain functions are already severely diminished and close to death. Ergo, not much retrospection going on here until final brain death and all conscious thoughts cease to function.

67 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:29:24am

re: #62 Gus

Yep, it’s coming. Guaranteed. At least for a little bit from Team Twitchy and the like.

Yep, inevitable and predictable as a sunrise but so it goes. Anyone who looks at party registration as a means of measuring someone’s ideology is stupid.

68 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:30:21am

re: #59 Skip Intro

He liked Al Gore in the 1980s because Gore was anti-gay.

Which one was active then? Or was it actually both for a time? ISTRC Gore was young for a veep…

69 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:30:22am

re: #63 jaunte

Kim Jong Un scoffs at leaving 7% on the table.

Yeah if you’re going to rig the vote like that, may as well make it 100% and avoid all pretext of dissent.

70 blueraven  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:30:55am

re: #24 SteveMcGazi

To take a scene from “Evan Almighty” when Lauren Graham is in a diner with her kids and Morgan Freeman comes along. He challenges her to consider this: If you pray for courage, does God give you courage or does he give you a chance to be brave?
Does God fill you with love or does He give you a chance to love somebody you don’t want to?

This assumes everything that happens in a life comes from God’s grace.
Not everyone believes this. Maybe it is ones own inner power that recognizes opportunity when it comes along.

Courage is about doing something even when you are afraid, not about some notion of “bravery”.

Love is always a chance.

71 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:31:04am

re: #68 Chrysicat

Which one was active then? Or was it actually both for a time? ISTRC Gore was young for a veep…

Gore was in the Senate by then after having first been elected to the House in the late 70’s and early 80’s.

72 A Mom Anon  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:31:46am

A thought or two on the Phelps clan:

1) It’s possible Fred was excommunicated so the grifters didn’t have to pay his medical bills. I wouldn’t put it past them. I’ve often wondered what their source of income is since it’s not really clear what they do beyond protest every 5 minutes.

2) If anyone thinks the rest of the family that’s in that “church” are going to suddenly have an epiphany once Fred is gone, they have no clue what a piece of work Shirley Phelps Roper is. If that’s possible, she’s nastier than her father.

3) The Phelps family members who had the courage/sense to get the hell out of that cult are now being banned from seeing Fred before he dies. It’s not been made clear if that’s his wishes or if he’s signed over power of attorney to Shirley or another family member.

4) It will be interesting to see what happens to the WBC once Fred is dead and buried. My hope is that the whole thing disintegrates, it will if we’re REALLY blessed by God.

73 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:32:06am

re: #63 jaunte

Kim Jong Un scoffs at leaving 7% on the table.

They should do like they do in Latin America: REFERENDUM PASSES BY A VOTE OF 50.1% (YES) VS. 49.9% (NO).

74 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:32:33am

These points about Gore get me at another thing that annoys me about the right and the Republican Party. You’ve got a few notables in the GOP i.e. Romney and Pawlenty and I believe I heard even Santorum were pro-gay rights at one point but moved to the right on that issue. Gore started out on the right but moved left on LGBT rights. Same thing can eb said about many Republicans on choice oto.

75 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:32:38am

re: #48 Gus

>Fred Phelps is a Democrat!

There were, and maybe still are Democrats in the deep south that inhabit the same moral plane as Fred Phelps.

76 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:33:00am

re: #64 Skip Intro

I can understand the saddened part, but I don’t see where the kind soul comes into it. The WBC is a family business, and the business model hasn’t changed at all.

Remind me again of the GAY RIGHTS ACTIVIST who this info originally came from, and whether he’s allowed to see his dying father or not because they were both excommunicated?

77 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:33:11am

re: #68 Chrysicat

Which one was active then? Or was it actually both for a time? ISTRC Gore was young for a veep…

The future VP.

78 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:33:22am

re: #75 Skip Intro

There were, and maybe still are Democrats in the deep south that inhabit the same moral plane as Fred Phelps.

Yeah. Most of them live in East Texas. =P

79 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:34:45am

Phelps is 84. Shit happens, you die. I’m always surprised when bigots last that long.

Meanwhile.


80 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:35:05am

re: #4 jhrhv

Many would call this Karma.

Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.
-William Munny, Unforgiven
Youtube Video

81 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:35:27am

re: #66 Gus

If Mr. Phelps is on his death bed odds are that his brain functions are already severely diminished and close to death. Ergo, not much retrospection going on here until final brain death and all conscious thoughts cease to function.

I wouldn’t really trust a deathbed conversion by him more than anyone else, i.e. not really at all.

82 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:35:48am

re: #66 Gus

If Mr. Phelps is on his death bed odds are that his brain functions are already severely diminished and close to death. Ergo, not much retrospection going on here until final brain death and all conscious thoughts cease to function.

Eternal Sonata frowns on your thought process, Though I’m probably the only one who’s even heard of that game here let alone played it :-P

83 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:36:33am

For Ukraine see #40. You can also read the timeline here.

84 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:37:18am
85 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:38:50am

Fred Phelps will die just like everyone else. You, me, saints and sinners.

86 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:39:30am

re: #77 Skip Intro

The future VP.

In my defense to everyone who pointed THAT one out, in 1988, my biggest interest was trying to get through Super Mario 2 (which I actually never managed) and begin to re-climb the school-hierarchy ladder (agewise; I was never a respected student leader) after the jump to middle school that fall :-P

87 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:41:32am
88 Weet  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:41:52am

Greenwald's Kremlin Russian Utopia: Mass Arrests of opposition leaders, TV stations shut down, internet sites blocked pic.twitter.com/J8Ys3XhJuD

— Jeff Gauvin(@JeffersonObama) March 16, 2014

89 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:42:00am

re: #86 Chrysicat

In my defense to everyone who pointed THAT one out, in 1988, my biggest interest was trying to get through Super Mario 2 (which I actually never managed) and begin to re-climb the school-hierarchy ladder (agewise; I was never a respected student leader) after the jump to middle school that fall :-P

No worries.

90 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:42:16am

re: #87 bratwurst

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Hah!

91 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:43:50am
92 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:45:04am

re: #91 Gus

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Wingnut Putin fans are in favor of this if Obama is among those turned into radioactive dust.

93 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:45:12am

?

94 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:45:13am

re: #82 Chrysicat

Eternal Sonata frowns on your thought process, Though I’m probably the only one who’s even heard of that game here let alone played it :-P

I had that game. I bought it because it was a JRPG centered on Chopin. I liked the concept.

95 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:46:06am

Oh please. Calling thieves & traitors whistleblowers is so dishonest and you know it.


96 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:46:14am

re: #91 Gus

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Does Rupert Murdoch own them too?

97 Weet  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:46:45am

Meanwhile the chief of Putin's media empire goes on air with threats to turn US into “radioactivedust” if needed pic.twitter.com/UojybzHtXF

— Maxim Eristavi(@MaximEristavi) March 16, 2014

98 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:47:33am

re: #96 Skip Intro

Does Rupert Murdoch own them too?

Not sure if it’s real yet.

99 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:48:02am
100 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:48:16am
101 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:48:39am

Some nice photos of the Czech Republic here; yes……it really is this beautiful here.

Photos #12 and #13 are of the town where I got married. A lot of the photos are of Prague, but there’s a few photos of the countryside and other towns here.

And that’s why I’ll never leave.


buzzfeed.com

102 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:50:18am

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

Some nice photos of the Czech Republic here; yes……it really is this beautiful here.

Photos #12 and #13 are of the town where I got married. A lot of the photos are of Prague, but there’s a few photos of the countryside and other towns here.

And that’s why I’ll never leave.

buzzfeed.com

Only thing CR needs is coast. But yes I loved Prague. Beautiful city, people, bridges, great tasting beers, drinks, and food.

103 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:52:25am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Only thing CR needs is coast. But yes I loved Prague. Beautiful city, people, bridges, great tasting beers, drinks, and food.

Heh.

I love it here; a nice, quiet and mellow sort of place.

104 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:53:15am

re: #103 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I love it here; a nice, quiet and mellow sort of place.

Yeah I bet. Of all the cities I went to my first time in Europe, I liked Prague the most. Was totally bummed that I never got to see more of the historical places linked to the Heydich assassination.

105 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:54:02am

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

Some nice photos of the Czech Republic here; yes……it really is this beautiful here.

Photos #12 and #13 are of the town where I got married. A lot of the photos are of Prague, but there’s a few photos of the countryside and other towns here.

And that’s why I’ll never leave.

buzzfeed.com

Looks beautiful. Are people sane there?

Here, I read the other day, a company plans to market bulletproof backpacks for children. Some seem to think that’s rational.

106 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:54:31am
107 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:54:39am

re: #99 Gus

It’s almost certainly real. That’s the same guy who advocates genocide for gay people.

108 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:55:59am

Well, at least the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics has finally evolved into a democracy.

//

109 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:56:03am

re: #107 Charles Johnson

It’s almost certainly real. That’s the same guy who advocates genocide for gay people.

Sounds like a lovely guy.//

110 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:56:52am

re: #105 Skip Intro

Looks beautiful. Are people sane there?

Here, I read the other day, a company plans to market bulletproof backpacks for children. Some seem to think that’s rational.

For the most part, folks are sane here. There’s a few nuts, but there’s loonies everywhere.

Kids play without supervision, climb trees, and get up to shenanigans. Violent crime is actually pretty rare here.

111 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 11:57:54am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Yeah I bet. Of all the cities I went to my first time in Europe, I liked Prague the most. Was totally bummed that I never got to see more of the historical places linked to the Heydich assassination.

I recall in 2002 that Heydrich’s car was on display at the Czech Military Museum. It was something to see, from a historical point of view.

112 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:00:07pm

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

For the most part, folks are sane here. There’s a few nuts, but there’s loonies everywhere.

Kids play without supervision, climb trees, and get up to shenanigans. Violent crime is actually pretty rare here.

Yeah, it used to be that way here too, although it seems like it must have been thousands of years ago now.

113 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:01:01pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

It’s almost certainly real. That’s the same guy who advocates genocide for gay people.

and this…


114 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:01:06pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

It’s almost certainly real. That’s the same guy who advocates genocide for gay people.

Yes, it appears that way and also, “oh, that guy.” O.O

115 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:01:14pm
116 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:01:18pm

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

I recall in 2002 that Heydrich’s car was on display at the Czech Military Museum. It was something to see, from a historical point of view.

There’s a cathedral in Prague, I believe Cyril and Methodilus where the assassins hid out and fought ot the death. Didn’t get to see that unfortunately though I did see St. Vitus which is the most beautiful cathedral I’ve ever seen.

117 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:01:50pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Anyone here sprechen deutsch?

118 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:03:29pm

Merry voices from the Allgäu

119 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:04:20pm

re: #118 jaunte

Merry voices from the Allgäu

Danke.

120 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:05:12pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Anyone here sprechen deutsch?

Jawohl. “Happy Sounds from the Allgäu” (south central region of Germany).

121 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:06:16pm

re: #112 Skip Intro

Yeah, it used to be that way here too, although it seems like it must have been thousands of years ago now.

Where I live, I dig it.

I have a tram stop about 100 feet from my front door that takes me anywhere, a bus as well, anything I need (except for refried beans) is all within in walking distance, there’s a movie theater about 20 minutes walk away and a major shopping center about a half-hour walk from here when the weather’s nice.

And I have this view (I’ve posted it before) from my balcony.

Balcony photo 4 at sunset

122 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:06:21pm

re: #118 jaunte

Merry voices from the Allgäu

Voices = Stimmen

123 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:06:24pm

re: #120 bratwurst

Jawohl. “Happy Sounds from the Allgäu” (south central region of Germany).

Figured it was South Germany by the way they’re dressed and the Alpine looking background so danke.

124 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:08:00pm

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

That is beautiful.

125 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:08:07pm
126 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:08:42pm

re: #63 jaunte

Kim Jong Un scoffs at leaving 7% on the table.

127 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:09:28pm

re: #126 Lidane

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128 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:09:33pm

re: #124 PhillyPretzel

That is beautiful.

Thanks. Yeah, my apartment is only a studio, but it’s just me, so no big deal. And it’s cheap; less than $250 per month including all utilities.

129 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:09:39pm

WTFITS

130 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:10:21pm

Why the fuck are US reports on the ‘election’ being so credulous?

131 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:10:34pm
132 blueraven  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:10:36pm

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Where I live, I dig it.

I have a tram stop about 100 feet from my front door that takes me anywhere, a bus as well, anything I need (except for refried beans) is all within in walking distance, there’s a movie theater about 20 minutes walk away and a major shopping center about a half-hour walk from here when the weather’s nice.

And I have this view (I’ve posted it before) from my balcony.

[Embedded image][Embedded image]Balcony photo 4 at sunset

Cook beans. Mash beans. Refry beans (preferably in bacon fat)

Lovely location!

133 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:11:05pm

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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A day doesn’t go by where he doesn’t beclown himself somehow does it? But leave it to Bryan to blame this tragedy on believing in equal rights for gay people. For fuck sakes dude, just come out of the closet already you repressed ass.

134 KiTA  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:11:15pm

Kinda a bummer about Phelps.

Yea yea, hear me out before you downvote:

You know how much the civil rights has been advanced for LGBI people because of his cult? Before, people like him could hide under the quiet acceptance of silent hatred we have going on in the US, and claim that anti-LGBI bigots didn’t really exist.

For all the evil and shock-mongering his legal-scheme hiding as a cult goes through (protip: Most of his family are lawyers, they’re intentionally trying to get attacked so they can sue towns / sates / police departments for not protecting them enough) they really did manage to put quite a head on the anti-LGBI civil rights countermovment in the US.

Without his cult, people leaning towards his worldview might never have been shocked into confronting their own bigotry. Others might have never realized that yeah, we actually do have a problem in the US with homophobes.

So for that, I salute him. Now hurry up and die - no one will miss ya.

135 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:11:38pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Anyone here sprechen deutsch?

It’s singing and musicianship from the Mühlbach Trio, Yodeler Ernst Ihler, the Kerber Quartet and the Lindenberg Country Choir!

136 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:12:30pm

re: #134 KiTA

Kinda a bummer about Phelps.

Yea yea, hear me out before you downvote:

You know how much the civil rights has been advanced for LGBI people because of his cult? Before, people like him could hide under the quiet acceptance of silent hatred we have going on in the US, and claim that anti-LGBI bigots didn’t really exist.

For all the evil and shock-mongering his legal-scheme hiding as a cult goes through (protip: Most of his family are lawyers, they’re intentionally trying to get attacked so they can sue towns / sates / police departments for not protecting them enough) they really did manage to put quite a head on the anti-LGBI civil rights countermovment in the US.

Without his cult, people leaning towards his worldview might never have been shocked into confronting their own bigotry. Others might have never realized that yeah, we actually do have a problem in the US with homophobes.

So for that, I salute him. Now hurry up and die - no one will miss ya.

That’s actually a good point. Phelps more than anyone has shown the hatred behind the anti-LGBT rights movement. I’d go a step further and say Phelps shown not only do we have a problem with homophobia but that homophobia was ugly and nothing to be proud of.

137 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:12:47pm

re: #135 bratwurst

My great-grandfather came from Lindenberg, but we didn’t keep speaking the language.

138 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:13:15pm

Oh brother.

139 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:13:59pm

The White House rejects the election results in Crimea. Which of course means the wingnuts will have no choice but to embrace the election results.

140 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:14:04pm

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Ibrahim was also supported by the Bush administration so there will be plenty on neocon-New World Order stuff floating around too.

141 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:14:05pm
142 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:14:11pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Oh brother.

[Embedded content]

God there’s a lot of stupid people out there.

143 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:14:17pm

Preis
15,93 EUR
musicland-bayern.de

144 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:14:37pm
145 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:15:27pm

I won’t celebrate the death of an individual human being who is simply obnoxious or advocates repulsive ideas, as opposed to committing murder or presenting a real risk of physical harm.

The only time I ever felt a twinge of sympathy for the John Birch Society, for example, was when their president, Representative Larry McDonald (D-GA), was murdered by the Soviet Air Force in the KAL 007 shoot-down. I despise everything JBS stands for, as well as their unethical methods, but McDonald was not a killer and he was in fact a sitting member of Congress, duly elected by the people of Georgia. May he rest in peace.

146 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:16:21pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Oh brother.

Oh man. I can’t wait to see if Cosmos does any specific segments on Darwin and evolution. The head explosions will be glorious.

147 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:16:23pm

148 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:07pm

re: #147 jaunte

[Embedded image]

And people wonder why I ID with my Irish/generic Eastern European heritage more than my German.

149 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:07pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

God there’s a lot of stupid people out there.

Which is precisely why we need Cosmos and more shows like it.

Real science education is desperately needed in this country.

150 Targetpractice  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:11pm

re: #139 Gus

The White House rejects the election results in Crimea. Which of course means the wingnuts will have no choice but to embrace the election results.

Oh, I imagine that we’re set for a week-long celebration as wingnuts congratulate Putin for his masterful seizure of Crimea against the White House’s protestations, that a “real leader” would have done something to prevent the referendum or forced Putin to declare it illegitimate, and that this is yet another sign of just how Putin is a magnificent bastard.

151 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:18pm
Are we left with the retarted monkeys?

Rotating title-worthy.

152 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:19pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Ibrahim was also supported by the Bush administration so there will be plenty on neocon-New World Order stuff floating around too.

Good point. We should ignore history and US foreign policy in how it applies to alleged radicalization and the nuances of the Malaysian political atmosphere.

153 bratwurst  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:46pm

re: #137 jaunte

My great-grandfather came from Lindenberg, but we didn’t keep speaking the language.

That is definitely in the Allgäu region, not too far from Austria. All of my years in Germany were spent far away in Nordrhein-Westfalen. The way they speak German down there is only barely intelligible to me!

154 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:17:50pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

slimy @hachi8411
Follow

@neiltyson#cosmos if we came from monkeys why they stoped evolving? Are we left with the retarted monkeys? Pt1
[Embedded content]

Somebody (here, I believe) had the perfect answer to that a while back: “If we came made from dirt, why is there still dirt?”

155 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:18:00pm

re: #149 Lidane

Which is precisely why we need Cosmos and more shows like it.

Real science education is desperately needed in this country.

Yep. We sure do.

156 Skip Intro  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:18:02pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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slimy appears to be getting drunk early today.

157 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:18:26pm
158 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:18:37pm

re: #156 Skip Intro

slimy appears to be getting drunk early today.

It’s always happy hour somewhere.

159 KiTA  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:19:14pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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160 chadu  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:20:03pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Maybe he went “soft” in his old age.

From the WBC site today:

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And

>Thank God for 4 more dead troops. We are praying for 4,000 more.

What fucking hateful bastards.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:20:06pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Calling Poe’s Law here

South Park Video

162 Mattand  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:21:59pm

re: #13 SteveMcGazi

Like it or not, you have to love your enemies.

No, you don’t.

163 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:23:01pm
164 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:23:36pm

Hasn’t it already been proven that microscopic life once existed on Mars?

165 Chrysicat  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:24:45pm

re: #143 jaunte

Preis
15,93 EUR
musicland-bayern.de

No fair! Musicland’s overseas operations are stll in business?

166 KiTA  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:24:49pm

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

Hasn’t it already been proven that microscopic life once existed on Mars?

No. If it had, it would have been EVERYWHERE in the news.

167 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:24:58pm

Anwar Ibrahim is an anti-Semite therefore even appearing like you might be apologizing for something-something you’re also antisemitic!

168 KiTA  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:25:12pm
169 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:25:39pm

Meet Stephen F. Cohen, Vladimir Putin’s Best Friend in the American Media

He is a great historian of Stalinism who has been celebrated by colleagues on the left and right. So why is Stephen F. Cohen so eager to act as a propagandist for Putin?

170 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:26:49pm
171 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:26:52pm

Comment:

Kurt Koller ‏@kurt_obruny 8m

@ChristopherJM @sergyaksenov Crimean parliament recomposed at gunpoint and man who garnered 3 % in election calling the shots = #Putsch


172 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:28:22pm

Statement by the Press Secretary on Ukraine

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 16, 2014

The United States has steadfastly supported the independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Ukraine since it declared its independence in 1991, and we reject the “referendum” that took place today in the Crimean region of Ukraine. This referendum is contrary to Ukraine’s constitution, and the international community will not recognize the results of a poll administered under threats of violence and intimidation from a Russian military intervention that violates international law.

No decisions should be made about the future of Ukraine without the Ukrainian government. Moreover, this vote was not necessary. The Ukrainian government has made clear its willingness to discuss increased autonomy for Crimea, and the presidential elections planned for May 25 provide a legitimate opportunity for all Ukrainians to make their voices heard on the future of their country.

In addition, Ukraine, the United States, the EU, the OSCE, the UN, and others have called for Russia to allow international monitors into the Crimean peninsula to ensure that the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine are being upheld. Russia has spurned those calls as well as outreach from the Ukrainian government and instead has escalated its military intervention into Crimea and initiated threatening military exercises on Ukraine’s eastern border.

Russia’s actions are dangerous and destabilizing. The UN Security Council recognized this in a vote yesterday that only Russia opposed. As the United States and our allies have made clear, military intervention and violation of international law will bring increasing costs for Russia - not only due to measures imposed by the United States and our allies but also as a direct result of Russia’s own destabilizing actions.

In this century, we are long past the days when the international community will stand quietly by while one country forcibly seizes the territory of another. We call on all members of the international community to continue to condemn such actions, to take concrete steps to impose costs, and to stand together in support of the Ukrainian people and Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.

173 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:30:43pm

re: #172 Gus

In this century, we are long past the days when the international community will stand quietly by while one country forcibly seizes the territory of another.

We will stand by but we’ll make some noise while doing so.

174 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:30:51pm
175 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:31:30pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

We will stand by but we’ll make some noise while doing so.

Is there anything you’d rather have us do, Killgore?

176 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:31:32pm

No doubt to get their marching orders and request to be included in the Russian Federation.


177 Lidane  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:32:16pm

re: #175 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Is there anything you’d rather have us do, Killgore?

Duh. We need to carpet bomb the Kremlin with pepper spray.

178 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:33:44pm
179 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:34:59pm

re: #178 Gus

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No bitcoins?

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:35:02pm

re: #146 Lidane

Oh man. I can’t wait to see if Cosmos does any specific segments on Darwin and evolution. The head explosions will be glorious.

No, there won’t be any. These people don’t actually care about the reality - they’d know that moneys along with humans are still evolving otherwise - they’ll just point to it as yet more satanic propaganda.

The whole thing is about uncertainty.

Fear of uncertainty is what drives fundamentalism in all of the major religions. People want absolute answers. They want certainty. Even if those facts and that certainty contradicts the teachings of their faith, they will chose the certainty instead of the teachings.

(There is a similar effect in the secular world as well that shows up in the love of conspiracy theories and pseudo-science that “explains” what real science is uncertain about.)

In the case of fundamentalists and evolution, evolution + God would imply that God uses uncertainty and tries random chance to see what works best. That horrifies them so bad that they have to presume that evolution can’t just be wrong but must be actively evil.

181 chadu  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:35:41pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Something’s retarded in that tweet.

It just might be slimy’s understanding of evolution.

182 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:36:25pm
183 KiTA  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:36:26pm

I’m having entirely too much fun with this slimy guy on Twitter. He’s ineptly spouting off the standard christian cultist anti-science talking points, but it’s obvious he doesn’t really understand them.

184 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:37:11pm

Supreme Soviet? ZOMG!

O.O

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:37:40pm

re: #162 Mattand

e: #13 SteveMcGazi

Like it or not, you have to love your enemies.

No, you don’t.no, you don’t.

True no one has to. Some of us do try to because we try to follow the teachings we’ve been given. It is one of the harder lessons.

186 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:37:42pm


WTF?

187 A Mom Anon  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:37:59pm

re: #162 Mattand

Forgiveness does NOT mean you burst open with love and bring someone who is destructive into your life like nothing happened. You can forgive or send love to someone you wouldn’t have a damned thing to do with in your own life. Forgiveness as part of the concept of love isn’t for the other person anyway, it’s for you, so you can have peace within yourself.

I have a younger brother who is a liar, an addict and a thief. Because of him we cannot have normal family gatherings because I refuse to let him near my son. I chose not to make my parents have to choose between us at holiday time. I have forgiven him for a host of shit he’s done and continues to do, but he’s not getting anywhere near my little family unit. He doesn’t have my address or phone number and my parents and sister have been told not to give it to him. If he gets treatment and gets sober and WORKS those steps forward, then maybe I’ll rethink my position, but not until then. He has my parents fooled, just because he has a job he’s held onto for over a year(as a security guard, which is heee-larious to me), but he’s still getting high and he’s taking advantage of my younger sister with MS. Living with her, lying and saying he can’t afford to help her pay rent, buying weed and coke, etc, etc. I can forgive him, send him sisterly love and best wishes, but he’s not in my life and won’t be. I don’t owe him shit.

You don’t love your enemies, love is really for people who enrich your life and make it fuller and have more meaning. Forgiveness is another thing entirely IMO. And it doesn’t mean you have to let people into your life to do more damage. As for Fred Phelps, he created a monster bigger than himself, but in a weird way he also did quite a lot to bring attention to the rights of the very people he heaped his hatred upon. So maybe in an odd way he did a little bit of good, which in no way offsets the harm he caused. Forgive him? I honestly don’t know, his actions are such a tiny grain of sand in our larger mean spirited culture, but perhaps he can be an object lesson in how NOT to be. Maybe?

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:38:28pm

re: #183 KiTA

I’m having entirely too much fun with this slimy guy on Twitter. He’s ineptly spouting off the standard christian cultist anti-science talking points, but it’s obvious he doesn’t really understand them.

I think it’s a parody account, it’s spouting the spoof talking points from South Park.

189 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:38:42pm

re: #182 Gus

[Embedded content]

Fucking seriously? Supreme Soviet?!

lolololol

Tells you everything you need to know - Soviet revanchists all the way.

190 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:39:00pm

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

Hasn’t it already been proven that microscopic life once existed on Mars?

No. Some fairly suggestive but controversial evidence, mostly micrometer based, but no conclusive proof.

191 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:40:52pm
192 Gus  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:41:28pm
193 HappyWarrior  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:43:40pm

re: #187 A Mom Anon

Forgiveness does NOT mean you burst open with love and bring someone who is destructive into your life like nothing happened. You can forgive or send love to someone you wouldn’t have a damned thing to do with in your own life. Forgiveness as part of the concept of love isn’t for the other person anyway, it’s for you, so you can have peace within yourself.

I have a younger brother who is a liar, an addict and a thief. Because of him we cannot have normal family gatherings because I refuse to let him near my son. I chose not to make my parents have to choose between us at holiday time. I have forgiven him for a host of shit he’s done and continues to do, but he’s not getting anywhere near my little family unit. He doesn’t have my address or phone number and my parents and sister have been told not to give it to him. If he gets treatment and gets sober and WORKS those steps forward, then maybe I’ll rethink my position, but not until then. He has my parents fooled, just because he has a job he’s held onto for over a year(as a security guard, which is heee-larious to me), but he’s still getting high and he’s taking advantage of my younger sister with MS. Living with her, lying and saying he can’t afford to help her pay rent, buying weed and coke, etc, etc. I can forgive him, send him sisterly love and best wishes, but he’s not in my life and won’t be. I don’t owe him shit.

You don’t love your enemies, love is really for people who enrich your life and make it fuller and have more meaning. Forgiveness is another thing entirely IMO. And it doesn’t mean you have to let people into your life to do more damage. As for Fred Phelps, he created a monster bigger than himself, but in a weird way he also did quite a lot to bring attention to the rights of the very people he heaped his hatred upon. So maybe in an odd way he did a little bit of good, which in no way offsets the harm he caused. Forgive him? I honestly don’t know, his actions are such a tiny grain of sand in our larger mean spirited culture, but perhaps he can be an object lesson in how NOT to be. Maybe?

Yes!

194 Ryan King  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:49:40pm

Although this man is extremely vile and has undoubtedly caused much pain, I can’t image wanting or hoping he’d die. Even a touch of empathy for all the pain inside of him.

195 A Mom Anon  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:52:58pm

re: #194 Ryan King

Yeah, I’m not happy dancing over his demise, though it would be easy to. His death fixes nothing. His batshit family is going to carry on that hate, it’s not going anywhere. Sadly.

196 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 1:21:12pm

Hell is eagerly waiting his demise. I’m sure they have something very special planned for him.

197 William of Orange  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 3:31:03pm

Go on. Create your own sign.

198 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 16, 2014 4:10:55pm

May Fred Phelps repent of his misdeeds and receive God’s mercy. I don’t want people to go to Hell, even if I don’t like them.

199 sffilk  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 5:03:48am

re: #5 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I hope his family, after his death, is able to shed his influence and get out from under the roiling cloud of hate.

It won’t happen. phelps has poisoned his entire family, including his daughter who apparently is now the spokes-being for the group.

200 sffilk  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 5:37:18am

re: #12 SteveMcGazi

I’m in no rush to see the man die. He’s offensive, hateful, but unless he’s been committing crimes we don’t know of, he has a chance at reformation. An unlikely one, granted, but that chance is lost with him.

I hate to say it, but in this case I think you’re not correct. He refuses to reform himself.

201 sffilk  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 5:55:30am

re: #57 Gus

BREAKING: WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH HAS RELEASED A STATEMENT INDICATING THAT THEY WILL BE PICKETING FRED PHELPS’ FUNERAL.

A SPOKESMAN HAS TOLD THE AP, “GOD HATES FRED PHELPS.”

//

Don’t you wish?

202 sffilk  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 6:03:19am

As a Jew, when we hear of the death of someone, we have a blessing: “Blessed are You, Oh L—d our G-D, ruler of the universe, THE TRUE JUDGE.” phelps will truly be judged when he’s gone and it won’t be in his favor.


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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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