Russian State TV: Russia Could Turn US to ‘Radioactive Ash’

Putin’s mouthpiece threatens nuclear war
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This is the same guy who advocates genocide for gay people — and he’s not kidding one bit: State TV Says Russia Could Turn US to ‘Radioactive Ash’.

Moscow (AFP) - A leading anchor on Russian state television on Sunday described Russia as the only country capable of turning the United States into “radioactive ash”, in an incendiary comment at the height of tensions over the Crimea referendum.

“Russia is the only country in the world realistically capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash,” anchor Dmitry Kiselyov said on his weekly news show on state-controlled Rossiya 1 television.

Kiselyov made the comment to support his argument that the United States and President Barack Obama were living in fear of Russia led by President Vladimir Putin amid the Ukraine crisis.

And as this is happening, Glenn Greenwald is blatantly shilling for Russia’s sham referendum in Crimea with a sleazy and wholly disingenuous comparison — while at the same time, mocking and insulting anyone who points out he’s shilling for Russia.

This is what passes for wit among the dudebros.

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145 comments
1 ericblair  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:02:07am

They get awful cranky when The Narrative starts wandering away from them.

2 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:02:52am

You need to show the dramtic picture behind him of a mushroom cloud.


3 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:03:59am

Shit. I hope this is not true.


4 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:04:36am

OFFS, what a clown Kiselyov is. The US could turn Russia in a vast uninhabitable wasteland.

5 Dr. Matt  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:05:00am

GG is basically just a dick.

6 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:05:33am

It’s true that Russia could turn the US into a radioactive wasteland, its been true for decades. But we can do the same damn thing to Russia, and they do remember that.


I don’t like this though, not at all. MAD is not a fun concept and I’d really rather not engage in nuclear belligerence with Russia. Even Ronald Reagan didn’t like that (Sorry wingnuts, but he signed the IRBM Treaty because he wanted that particular class of nukes gone).

7 jaunte  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:05:33am

Dmitry Kiselyov, pretend suicide bomber.

8 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:06:41am

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

OFFS, what a clown Kiselyov is. The US could turn Russia in a vast uninhabitable wasteland.

I don’t know if he realizes if Russia nukes us we nuke them back. In other words Russia will be turning Russia into radioactive dust as well.

9 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:07:45am

re: #8 NJDhockeyfan

I don’t know if he realizes if Russia nukes us we nuke them back. In other words Russia will be turning Russia into radioactive dust as well.

Precisely, and it would done pretty much the instant we detected a full-on Russian nuclear launch.

Retaliation would be immediate.

10 thecommodore  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:07:55am

Um…pardon what I fear may be a stupid question, but am I correct in assuming that “dudebro” refers to Greenwald/Snowden, etc? If so, why are they called that?

My understanding is that a “dudebro” is basically a sexist, homophobic douchebag, at least that’s what the kids seem to be saying.

Thanks for helping out this tragically unhip LIzard. :)

11 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:08:30am

Is there a likely-to-succeed ABM test using new parameters we can order to be done soon? Because right now I’m think a successful ABM test might help remind Russia we aren’t a pushover. Also, its a defensive system so President Obama can honestly say we’re not being belligerent.

12 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:08:53am

re: #10 thecommodore

Um…pardon what I fear may be a stupid question, but am I correct in assuming that “dudebro” refers to Greenwald/Snowden, etc? If so, why are they called that?

My understanding is that a “dudebro” is basically a sexist, homophobic douchebag, at least that’s what the kids seem to be saying.

Thanks for helping out this tragically unhip LIzard. :)

A DUDEBRO is what we used to call a “Moonbat” but with MOAR WHITE PRIVILEGE.

13 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:09:22am

re: #10 thecommodore

Um…pardon what I fear may be a stupid question, but am I correct in assuming that “dudebro” refers to Greenwald/Snowden, etc? If so, why are they called that?

My understanding is that a “dudebro” is basically a sexist, homophobic douchebag, at least that’s what the kids seem to be saying.

Thanks for helping out this tragically unhip LIzard. :)

dude bro
White suburban males, usually 16-25 years of age, hailing from anywhere, USA. Characterized by their love of College football, pickup trucks/SUVs, beer,cut off khaki cargo shorts, light pink polo brand shirts (with collar “popped”), abercrombie & fitch, hollister gear, and trucker hats. Favorite bands include, but are not limited to, O.A.R., Jack Johnson, Dave Matthews Band, Avengened Sevenfold, The Fray, and often crappy radio rap (i.e. Nelly, Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L, etc.). Dude bro’s are incredibly insecure in their manhood, which makes them: insanely jealous of their girl friends, overly macho, and laughably homophobic. currently, there is no cure for being a dude bro.

urbandictionary.com

14 Dr. Matt  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:09:41am
15 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:09:57am

re: #12 Pie-onist Overlord

A DUDEBRO is what we used to call a “Moonbat” but with MOAR WHITE PRIVILEGE.

But we also use it to refer to libertarians.

16 thecommodore  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:10:30am

re: #12 Pie-onist Overlord

A DUDEBRO is what we used to call a “Moonbat” but with MOAR WHITE PRIVILEGE.

Which Greenwald and company certainly have. Okay…gotcha.

How do you get the dayglo green “dudebro” font?

17 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:10:39am

Keep your “biblical motivations” to yourself, sweetie.

House stenographer on outburst: ‘I did not have a breakdown’ (Video)

washingtonpost.com

18 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:11:24am

re: #16 thecommodore

Which Greenwald and company certainly have. Okay…gotcha.

How do you get the dayglo green “dudebro” font?

[ Dudebro ] [ / Dudebro ]

Remove the spaces.

19 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:11:47am

Greenwald actually gets paid for doing this?

Charles, I think we all deserve a raise.

20 Dr. Matt  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:12:05am

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

But we also use it to refer to libertarians.

Left-wing libertarians…right? Isn’t Rand Paul still a ‘wing-nut’ as a right-wing libertarian?

Someone needs to establish a political slangipedia.

21 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:12:21am
22 jaunte  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:12:54am
Investors pulled $33 billion out of [Russia] in January and February, and that figure could hit $55 billion by the end of March, according to Russian investment bank Renaissance Capital.

Russia faces a hefty bill for supporting Crimea. The region currently depends on Ukraine for roughly 70% of its budget, 90% of its water, and most of its energy and food supplies.
money.cnn.com

23 S'latch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:12:59am

He even has a mushroom cloud in the info-graphic. Wow. Just wow.

24 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:13:47am

re: #16 thecommodore

Which Greenwald and company certainly have. Okay…gotcha.

How do you get the dayglo green “dudebro” font?

Same way as you get the ‘wingnut’ font: in front of the passage you want in the font you type ‘dudebro’ enclosed in brackets and at the end of the passage you type it again, only this time with a ‘/’ between the first bracket and the b.

Click the “Quote” button on this post to see An example.

25 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:16:24am

Charles Johnson,

I just saw this story, I was actually about to post something about it here. I have a feeling that the tumble weed will roll by while people wait for Greenwald to condemn, Dmitry Kiselyov. I wonder if any of his supporters will bring him to task for not condemning this guy.

26 thecommodore  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:16:26am
dude bro
White suburban males, usually 16-25 years of age, hailing from anywhere, USA. Characterized by their love of College football, pickup trucks/SUVs, beer,cut off khaki cargo shorts, light pink polo brand shirts (with collar “popped”), abercrombie & fitch, hollister gear, and trucker hats. Favorite bands include, but are not limited to, O.A.R., Jack Johnson, Dave Matthews Band, Avengened Sevenfold, The Fray, and often crappy radio rap (i.e. Nelly, Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L, etc.). Dude bro’s are incredibly insecure in their manhood, which makes them: insanely jealous of their girl friends, overly macho, and laughably homophobic. currently, there is no cure for being a dude bro.

Add Ed Hardy wear to the repertoire as well.

This is what I’ve always taken “dudebro” to mean.

27 jaunte  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:19:03am

Boom.

“…The Kremlin’s fundamental mistake is to have ignored its economic weakness and dependence on Europe. On Monday, March 3, the Russian RTS index plummeted 12 percent, while Gazprom fell by 17 percent, as it will lose its valuable Ukrainian market and perhaps also transit to Europe.

The ruble fell by 2.5 percent in early trading, and the central bank was forced to raise its policy rate from 5.5 percent to 7.0 percent to impede the run on the ruble. The Russian economy was set to stagnate, but now it is likely to contract.

With its great economic power, Europe can have a great impact just by applying existing rules more rigorously. By normal standards, many big Russian state companies, notably Gazprom, would be considered organized crime syndicates, and according to current legal standards, European financial institutions should not be allowed to deal with them. To a large extent, the United States has already done so.”
piie.com

28 Ming  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:20:04am

It’s astonishing that anyone could have anything good to say about Putin’s Russia at this point, but both the Dudebros (Greenwald, Snowden) and the right-wing nut jobs are up to the task.

Of course, we should all be comforted to know that the adult in the room, President Obama, doesn’t want to escalate this Crimea crisis; it’s already bad enough. BUT, unfortunately, it seems to me that NATO may have no choice, right now, but to offer some increased assurances to various Eastern European countries that are “on the front lines”.

I’m thinking of Poland in particular, since I have some very small knowledge about that country. But I’m sure there are many other countries in Eastern Europe, who were formerly in the Warsaw Pact, who are looking for assurances that Putin won’t go after them.

One bad case would be if such an “assurance” is, for example, moving missiles into that country. This would be an “escalation”, even though it’s defensive.

My point is that we should all want to avoid escalation if possible, but it may be difficult to avoid. I’m very glad that Obama is President now, considering some of the possible alternatives!

29 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:20:37am

Obama: America stands ready ‘to impose further sanctions’ on Russia

Speaking in the White House on March 17, U.S. President Barack Obama again called on Russia to withdraw combat troops from Ukraine’s Crimea and to pursue a diplomatic solution with Ukraine’s central government in Kyiv.

Here is the entire statement:

Statement by U.S. President Barack Obama in the White House on Ukraine

James S. Brady Press Briefing Room

10:45 A.M. EDT

kyivpost.com

He’s going to Europe next week, and, tonight, Biden “departs for Europe, where he will meet with the leaders of our NATO allies — Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. “

30 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:20:44am

One difference between the Soviet Union and the new Putin kleptocracy: An unknown but possibly high percentage of Putinite missiles might fail to launch because corrupt commanders and various cronies have sold the parts on the black market, converted silos to marijuana farms, and diverted maintenance crews to painting dachas, and operators are either too drunk or too busy with side jobs to bother with training.

31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:23:12am
32 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:23:13am

re: #9 Dr Lizardo

Precisely, and it would done pretty much the instant we detected a full-on Russian nuclear launch.

Retaliation would be immediate.

Dugin got some attention in the NYT yesterday.

[…]

Another person who has been swept into the mainstream is one of Mr. Prokhanov’s former protégés, Aleksandr G. Dugin, who, in the late 1990s, called for “the blinding dawn of a new Russian Revolution, fascism — borderless as our lands, and red as our blood.”

Virulently anti-American, Mr. Dugin has urged a “conservative revolution” that combines left-wing economics and right-wing cultural traditionalism. In a 1997 book, he introduced the idea of building a Eurasian empire “constructed on the fundamental principle of the common enemy,” which he identified as Atlanticism, liberal values, and geopolitical control by the United States.

Building a Eurasian economic bloc, including Ukraine, became a central goal for Mr. Putin upon his return to the presidency. His point man on the project was the economist Sergei Glazyev, an associate of Mr. Prokhanov’s and Mr. Dugin’s.

In an interview, Mr. Dugin was evasive when asked about his personal contact with Mr. Putin, saying only that he had been “in close contact with the Kremlin, and with those in the Kremlin who make decisions,” for the last 15 years. But he said the president, whom he described as a Henry Kissinger-style “pragmatist,” had embraced a version of his ideology because it served his interests domestically.

“It is popular, it is populist, it helps to explain all the processes which are going on in the country, and gradually — just by the logic of things, pragmatically, he becomes closer and closer to this ideology, just by the logic of events,” he said. He also offered a more human reason: that Mr. Putin had been stung by Western leaders’ apparent preference for his predecessor, Dmitri A. Medvedev, and then by the antigovernment protests that he believed were backed by the West.

Though a number of high-ranking officials around Mr. Putin have argued strenuously against this ideological shift, Mr. Dugin said that their influence had been waning steadily, and that the Crimean crisis left them no option but to “be quiet, or gather up their suitcases and leave Russia.”

“Anti-Americanism has become the main ideology, the main worldview among Russians,” he said. “Now, after Crimea, we have passed the point of no return. There will not be another Medvedev. There will never be another ‘reset,’ ever.”

[…]

33 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:23:22am

re: #28 Ming

It’s astonishing that anyone could have anything good to say about Putin’s Russia at this point, but both the Dudebros (Greenwald, Snowden) and the right-wing nut jobs are up to the task.

Of course, we should all be comforted to know that the adult in the room, President Obama, doesn’t want to escalate this Crimea crisis; it’s already bad enough. BUT, unfortunately, it seems to me that NATO may have no choice, right now, but to offer some increased assurances to various Eastern European countries that are “on the front lines”.

I’m thinking of Poland in particular, since I have some very small knowledge about that country. But I’m sure there are many other countries in Eastern Europe, who were formerly in the Warsaw Pact, who are looking for assurances that Putin won’t go after them.

One bad case would be if such an “assurance” is, for example, moving missiles into that country. This would be an “escalation”, even though it’s defensive.

My point is that we should all want to avoid escalation if possible, but it may be difficult to avoid. I’m very glad that Obama is President now, considering some of the possible alternatives!

The Baltic states are exceedingly nervous; they all have large ethnic Russian minorities, and a Latvian of my acquaintance refers to them quite openly as “fifth columnists”.

34 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:23:24am
35 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:24:14am

If we’re back to nuclear posturing, we’d better get out the retro soundtrack:

Youtube Video

36 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:25:57am

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

One difference between the Soviet Union and the new Putin kleptocracy: An unknown but possibly high percentage of Putinite missiles might fail to launch because corrupt commanders and various cronies have sold the parts on the black market, converted silos to marijuana farms, and diverted maintenance crews to painting dachas, and operators are either too drunk or too busy with side jobs to bother with training.

Unlikely. Putin has pushed nuclear readiness HARD and he’s been death on any corruption involving the nuclear force.

37 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:26:09am

re: #14 Dr. Matt

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Ha ha! This one I’m sure left many children with nightmares.


38 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:27:11am

re: #32 wrenchwench

Dugin got some attention in the NYT yesterday.

Dugin’s ideology is dangerous, to be blunt.

As I’ve said before, given the turn of events in Russia, and its apparent pursuit a quasi-imperialistic foreign policy, a new containment strategy is needed.

To use Clemenceau’s term, a ‘cordon sanitaire’ around Russia.

39 b.d.  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:27:25am

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

OFFS, what a clown Kiselyov is. The US could turn Russia in a vast uninhabitable wasteland.

OFFS, what a clown Kiselyov is. The US could turn Russia into more of a vast uninhabitable wasteland.

Fixed it for you.

40 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:29:02am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Dugin’s ideology is dangerous, to be blunt.

As I’ve said before, given the turn of events in Russia, and its apparent pursuit a quasi-imperialistic foreign policy, a new containment strategy is needed.

To use Clemenceau’s term, a ‘cordon sanitaire’ around Russia.

Dangerous, and ascendant. Baldly pro-fascist.

41 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:29:26am
42 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:30:37am

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

If we’re back to nuclear posturing, we’d better get out the retro soundtrack:

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Noo-ku-lar combat toe to toe with the Rooskies:

Youtube Video

43 darthstar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:32:19am

And now his wife can have the mink she always wanted because Walter believed only minks should wear mink skins.

Pretty funny obit the guy wrote for himself.


44 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:33:20am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Unlikely. Putin has pushed nuclear readiness HARD and he’s been death on any corruption involving the nuclear force.

So he says. It is very difficult to isolate one field of activity from a pervasive atmosphere of corruption though, especially when a LOT of resources are involved. I hope we don’t find out.

45 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:33:44am

“I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth — rocks!”

- Albert Einstein

46 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:33:54am
47 darthstar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:34:44am
48 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:35:39am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Noam Chomsky: another example of an extremely talented person mouthing off outside their specific area of expertise.

49 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:35:45am

re: #47 darthstar

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50 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:36:02am
51 darthstar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:36:20am
52 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:37:04am

Another bit of history to mark the day:

“Wear green on St. Patrick’s Day or get pinched.” That pretty much sums up the Irish-American “curriculum” that I learned when I was in school. Yes, I recall a nod to the so-called Potato Famine, but it was mentioned only in passing.
Sadly, today’s high school textbooks continue to largely ignore the famine, despite the fact that it was responsible for unimaginable suffering and the deaths of more than a million Irish peasants, and that it triggered the greatest wave of Irish immigration in U.S. history. Nor do textbooks make any attempt to help students link famines past and present.

more at:

The Real Irish American Story Not Taught in Schools

53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:37:08am

re: #49 Targetpractice

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Wasn’t that supposed to be the rapture or something?

54 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:37:12am

re: #51 darthstar

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“Beginning”?

55 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:37:46am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t that supposed to be the rapture or something?

If it was, it didn’t impress me much. House shook for perhaps 15 seconds and that was it. Didn’t even knock anything off the curio cabinet.

56 darthstar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:38:31am

re: #54 Targetpractice

“Beginning”?

Yeah…but it’s a good read. Ricks apparently is somewhat recognized for being an actual journalist, and GG liked having his support…but now…

All of this is a far cry from where Ricks stood in January, when he wrote that he was beginning to “edge toward Snowden.” Those days, apparently, are over.

In a post published Monday on his blog, Ricks once again seemed to insinuate that Greenwald and Snowden are in cahoots with the Russians.

“Bottom line: I am no longer going soft on Greenwald and Snowden,” he wrote. “In fact, rather the opposite, I am beginning to believe the worst about them. If they acting on moral beliefs, now would be the time for both of them to speak out against Putin. It could have a great impact, I think.”

57 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:39:22am

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

Noo-ku-lar combat toe to toe with the Rooskies:

[Embedded content]

The upside:

Youtube Video

58 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:40:56am

The cold war was just so much fun! And now we get to do it again!

////////////

It better stay cold.

59 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:41:30am
60 Kilroy01  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:42:06am

re: #57 wrenchwench

More timely Lehrer
Youtube Video

61 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:42:13am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another bit of history to mark the day:

more at:

The Real Irish American Story Not Taught in Schools

The famine is honestly one of the biggest tragedies in modern history. Ireland I think has only or perhaps has yet to regain its population pre-famine levels. It’s sad that the tale of the Irish is often of leaving Ireland. I know not the circumstances that inspired my ancestors to emigrate but I imagine the Famine and its consequences played a big part.

62 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:42:47am
63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:44:21am

Glenn Greenwald: another day, another drooling temper tantrum on Twitter.

64 makeitstop  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:44:47am

Jesus, what a dick.

65 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:45:13am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Glenn Greenwald: another day, another drooling temper tantrum on Twitter.

It’s always Rage hour somewhere.

66 b.d.  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:45:38am

Nice little journalist you got there Pierre.

67 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:46:44am

And now of course the Cult of Glenn will descend upon Thomas like a pack of flying monkeys, screeching and slinging shit at him for daring to speak against their idol.

68 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:47:04am

So sick of the moonbat/dudebro Iraq so you can’t criticize Russia’s behavior here. Fuck that. I’m sorry. Iraq was IMO a mistake too but this whole “You had an immoral invasion so you shouldn’t criticize others” is stupid. Pretty much every major power has had something like this in their history.

69 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:49:58am
70 blueraven  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:51:03am

It is either one thing or the other

Greenwald approves of Putin, or he is afraid for Snowden’s life.

So he deflects.

71 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:51:14am

re: #60 Kilroy01

More timely Lehrer
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Lehrer is pretty timeless. I was unaware of how much he resembled Chevy Chase (or vice versa).

72 b.d.  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:51:25am

Look at US history. The US never had this mythical BS “moral authority” to speak out about other people doing horrible shit. I really have no idea where this concept came from.

73 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:53:13am

re: #70 blueraven

It is either one thing or the other

Greenwald approves of Putin, or he is afraid for Snowden’s life.

So he deflects.

He doesn’t give a shit about Snowden, the human. Just Snowden, the commodity, which may actually increase in value if he dies.

74 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:53:15am

Meanwhile, here’s the contributor list at Nate Silver’s new site fivethirtyeight.com.

Six white dudes, one woman.

75 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:53:18am

re: #71 wrenchwench

Lehrer is pretty timeless. I was unaware of how much he resembled Chevy Chase (or vice versa).

And Chevy too was a musician at one point.

76 b.d.  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:54:35am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, here’s the contributor list at Nate Silver’s new site fivethirtyeight.com.

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Six white dudes, one woman.

538 DudeBros and a gal.

77 b.d.  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:54:57am

re: #76 b.d.

538 DudeBros and a gal.

537 DudeBros and a gal

78 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:56:00am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

The famine is honestly one of the biggest tragedies in modern history. Ireland I think has only or perhaps has yet to regain its population pre-famine levels. It’s sad that the tale of the Irish is often of leaving Ireland. I know not the circumstances that inspired my ancestors to emigrate but I imagine the Famine and its consequences played a big part.

It was out and out genocide brought on by profit. But it always pains me to see the descendants of these oppressed people, victims of a horrible class system, mouthing off about about others who have been oppressed not only because of class, but because of the color of their skin.

79 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:56:10am

re: #70 blueraven

It is either one thing or the other

Greenwald approves of Putin, or he is afraid for Snowden’s life.

So he deflects.

I don’t believe Greenwald gives a shit about Snowden’s life.

80 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:57:35am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, here’s the contributor list at Nate Silver’s new site fivethirtyeight.com.

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Six white dudes, one woman.

And she’s arguably a twofer in the diversity game.

81 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:57:38am

re: #79 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t believe Greenwald gives a shit about Snowden’s life.

Greenwald’s paycheque on the other hand? That he worries about.

82 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:57:42am

re: #78 Justanotherhuman

It was out and out genocide brought on by profit. But it always pains me to see the descendants of these oppressed people, victims of a horrible class system, mouthing off about about others who have been oppressed not only because of class, but because of the color of their skin.

I know, it always gets me when I see Irish Americans defend oppression.

83 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:57:46am

SFZ was so knowledgeable about Irish history. I miss her contributions here.

84 Minor_L  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:57:49am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

You know what’s crazy? A person can criticize BOTH Russia and the US. Criticizing Putin doesn’t mean that one is condoning anything the US has done (though I don’t agree with Greenwald that the US is “worse,” or even near as bad). Only a child (i.e., Greenwald) would think otherwise.

85 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:57:49am

I fear for Glenn. After January 2017, the focus of all his hate will be out of office. If a white guy Republican wins the presidency, he may have nothing to live for. Pierre may have to put him on suicide watch.

86 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:58:17am

re: #84 Minor_L

You know what’s crazy? A person can criticize BOTH Russia and the US. Criticizing Putin doesn’t mean that one is condoning anything the US has done (though I don’t agree with Greenwald that the US is “worse,” or even near as bad). Only a child (i.e., Greenwald) would think otherwise.

Precisely! Times a 1000.

87 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:58:48am

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

SFZ was so knowledgeable about Irish history. I miss her contributions here.

She was the best. I know I gave her a smile when I told her she reminded me of Frank McCourt with her gift for teaching and story telling. I hope she’s doing well.

88 Minor_L  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:00:32am

re: #70 blueraven

To me, it seems he is only protecting his own ego. He keeps doubling and tripling down on the “no one in the US can criticize Russia” rhetoric, so for him to criticize even the most outrageous Russian transgressions would mean that he was backing down on something he said. He can never, ever admit that he might have been wrong.

This is how my brother behaved when he was 11 years old, mind you.

89 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:01:01am
90 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:01:51am

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Was Glenn Nate’s hr director?

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:01:52am

re: #89 Charles Johnson

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She could be cleaning them. :(

92 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:02:53am

sunny, muddy and really not too bad in my part of the world.

you?

93 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:03:20am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I know, it always gets me when I see Irish Americans defend oppression.

That’s part of why Colin Flaherty anti-black people screeds so anger me: He forgets that “They’re inherently violent and lawless” is something bigots used to say about Irish people like him. He forgets the history of his own people to wallow in bigotry.

94 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:03:56am

So is 538 now a dudebro site or what’s the situation?

95 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:04:23am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, here’s the contributor list at Nate Silver’s new site fivethirtyeight.com.

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Six white dudes, one woman.

Is Mona related to Ahmed Chalabi, by any chance? It’s an Iraqi name, but I can’t find a connection. Ahmed has 4 children, none named.

96 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:04:34am

re: #5 Dr. Matt

GG is basically just a dick.

That is an insult to dicks.

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:04:39am

Guess who is not getting a followback!

Tea Party Patriots followed you
TPPatriots’s avatar
Tea Party Patriots
@TPPatriots
Official Grassroots American Movement | Fiscal Responsibility | Constitutionally Limited Government | Free Markets

98 Kragar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:05:03am
99 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:05:08am

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

That’s part of why Colin Flaherty anti-black people screeds so anger me: He forgets that “They’re inherently violent and lawless” is something bigots used to say about Irish people like him. He forgets the history of his own people to wallow in bigotry.

Absolutely. I grew up near a large Irish American family and the father never missed a day to bitch about the “Damn Mexicans.” Had to remind his sons who often echoed the old man that’s exactly what was sad about the Irish. Plus it’s annoying to hear them all referred to as Mexicans. My best friend back then was Peruvian as is my niece and SiL, and there’s tons of Salvadorians here too.

100 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:05:29am

Here’s another gun-fucking idiot:

101 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:05:55am

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

But we also use it to refer to libertarians.

Who mostly fit the urban dictionary definition of Dudebro.

102 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:06:20am

re: #100 Pie-onist Overlord

Here’s another gun-fucking idiot:

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Yay more scapegoating the mentally ill.

103 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:07:01am

re: #26 thecommodore

Add Ed Hardy wear to the repertoire as well.

This is what I’ve always taken “dudebro” to mean.

Hey, I have Ed Hardy wear. Well, some pieces with the tiger’s on them.

I have a thing about tigers.

104 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:07:12am

Perhaps Nate Silver’s binders weren’t full of female sports/politics/math geeks who would work for the pay.

105 Lidane  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:07:37am

I haz job interview in about 30 minutes. I’m trying hard not to be nervous. It doesn’t help that I had a shitty night’s sleep last night. Gah.

Here’s hoping it goes well. *crosses fingers*

106 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:08:13am

re: #105 Lidane

I haz job interview in about 30 minutes. I’m trying hard not to be nervous. It doesn’t help that I had a shitty night’s sleep last night. Gah.

Here’s hoping it goes well. *crosses fingers*

Knock ‘em dead!

107 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:09:02am

re: #105 Lidane

I haz job interview in about 30 minutes. I’m trying hard not to be nervous. It doesn’t help that I had a shitty night’s sleep last night. Gah.

Here’s hoping it goes well. *crosses fingers*

Don’t insist on a livery car.

108 b.d.  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:09:50am

re: #105 Lidane

I haz job interview in about 30 minutes. I’m trying hard not to be nervous. It doesn’t help that I had a shitty night’s sleep last night. Gah.

Here’s hoping it goes well. *crosses fingers*

St. Patrick’s Day, luck of the Irish to you*.
Go get ‘em!


*please do not open up a history book and find out what the real luck of the Irish has been like.

109 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:09:53am

Thing is though, this always happen. One generation emigrates. Gets shit because their language and or accent is funny and their religion bothers people. Their children assimilate. And then their grandchildren bitch. My brother was making the point to my Eastern European grandmother that many of these Hispanic immigrants are older and as we know a new language is tougher to learn at a later age. I honestly don’t mind hearing Spanish. The only thing that upsets me is that it reminds me that I should have studied it harder in school rather than treating it like a prerequisite for graduation. SiL’s family does love it though when I show my limited knowledge though.

110 Kragar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:10:25am
111 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:10:40am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

She was the best. I know I gave her a smile when I told her she reminded me of Frank McCourt with her gift for teaching and story telling. I hope she’s doing well.

What happened to SFZ —I can’t remember .

112 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:10:57am

re: #108 b.d.

St. Patrick’s Day, luck of the Irish to you*.
Go get ‘em!

*please do not open up a history book and find out what the real luck of the Irish has been like.

Lidane might enjoy being transported to the Fatal Shore.

113 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:11:09am

re: #110 Kragar

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Right we let them head the NRA.

114 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:11:15am

re: #105 Lidane

I haz job interview in about 30 minutes. I’m trying hard not to be nervous. It doesn’t help that I had a shitty night’s sleep last night. Gah.

Here’s hoping it goes well. *crosses fingers*

Good luck to you! Crossing my own fingers for you. : )

115 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:12:09am

re: #111 FemNaziBitch

What happened to SFZ —I can’t remember .

I’m not totally sure to be truthful with you. Didn’t talk to her outside LGF like some others did. I miss her though. I really enjoyed her stories about teaching because it was obvious to me that she enjoyed doing it a lot and she reminded me of some of my favorite teachers I’ve had.

116 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:12:28am

re: #105 Lidane

re: #114 Justanotherhuman

Good luck to you! Crossing my own fingers for you. : )

I would too
But I have enough trouble typing with them uncrossed ,, so,,,,,,,

117 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:12:33am

re: #110 Kragar

Too bad we don’t FUND the laws we already have on the books to prevent those adjudicated mentally ill from legally buying firearms.

118 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:13:52am

re: #100 Pie-onist Overlord

Here’s another gun-fucking idiot:

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The irony being: That’s fucking crazy.

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:13:59am

MY KIDS SHOULD HAVE SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION, BUT NO MOAR TAXES!!!!!!

120 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:15:04am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I’m not totally sure to be truthful with you. Didn’t talk to her outside LGF like some others did. I miss her though. I really enjoyed her stories about teaching because it was obvious to me that she enjoyed doing it a lot and she reminded me of some of my favorite teachers I’ve had.

I don’t recall what frustration here caused her to quit coming around (or if there was one) but she pops in on rare occasion.

Too rare.

121 Kragar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:15:05am

re: #117 FemNaziBitch

Too bad we don’t FUND the laws we already have on the books to prevent those adjudicated mentally ill from legally buying firearms.

But remember, the GOP just passed a law saying the President needs to be forced to fully enforce the law.

Oh wait, that was only on draconian immigration and drug laws.

Never mind.

122 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:16:14am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

MY KIDS SHOULD HAVE SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION, BUT NO MOAR TAXES!!!!!!

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Her little snowflakes just aren’t that special. And with her attitude, they never will be.

I just love to say that. : )

123 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:16:15am

re: #120 wrenchwench

I don’t recall what frustration here caused her to quit coming around (or if there was one) but she pops in on rare occasion.

Too rare.

Yeah I think I did see her pop in some months back.

124 Kragar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:16:22am

re: #120 wrenchwench

I don’t recall what frustration here caused her to quit coming around (or if there was one) but she pops in on rare occasion.

Too rare.

I think it was work and financial issues IIRC.

125 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:16:51am

re: #124 Kragar

I think it was work and financial issues IIRC.

Yeah wasn’t she switching careers or going back to school or something? Anyhow, as said, she is definitely missed.

126 blueraven  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:17:19am

re: #89 Charles Johnson

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Looks like they are bringing in more women

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<script async src=”//platform.twitter.com” charset=”utf-8”></script>

I have no idea what the burrito bracket is.

127 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:17:29am

#121 Kragar

Which, IIRC,he has been doing and drawing the angst of those who think that is a bad thing.

I’m pretty sure I’ve Pages Posted a few about that topic.

128 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:17:54am

mediamatters.org
This will be an easy counter-boycott!

129 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:18:08am

The ad at the top of my page says I can choose any internet and add TV for $xx.

Which Internet would you choose?

130 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:19:04am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

MY KIDS SHOULD HAVE SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION, BUT NO MOAR TAXES!!!!!!

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Then accept higher taxes or STFU.

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:20:42am
132 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:20:50am

re: #126 blueraven

Looks like they are bringing in more women

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I have no idea what the burrito bracket is.

Sure doesn’t sound good. Latino sports coverage? Or making lunch for the guys?

133 taserian  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:24:16am

re: #71 wrenchwench

I’m partial to Lehrer’s “Who’s Next?”

Youtube Video

134 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:26:02am

re: #126 blueraven

Looks like they are bringing in more women

[Embedded content]

I have no idea what the burrito bracket is.

Give it a guess.

135 blueraven  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:27:14am

re: #132 wrenchwench

Sure doesn’t sound good. Latino sports coverage? Or making lunch for the guys?

Actually has to do with Chicago and finding the best burrito

chicagoist.com

Just some fun with that maybe, and she bills herself as health reporter.

136 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:27:22am

Writing about the best burrito in Chicago.

thebraiser.com

137 HappyWarrior  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:28:17am

re: #136 Justanotherhuman

Writing about the best burrito in Chicago.

thebraiser.com

Burritos are proof that that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

138 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:31:08am

More about diversity at 538.

There was a column in the Guardian by Emily Bell yesterday citing that so far, there are six women on your 19-person editorial staff, and calling this new wave “a repackaging of the status quo with a very nice clubhouse attached.” Do you think about problems of representation in the team you’ve built?

About 85 percent of our applications come in from men. That worries us. At the same time, we’re hiring the best candidate for the position. But that’s one of the reasons why we take a long time and put a lot of effort into our hiring process, to make sure that we’re looking widely for the best possible candidates.

I’ll be honest — that piece, the grander point I don’t have any opinion about. I thought the notion about FiveThirtyEight … it upset me. We think a lot about the hiring process. The phrase “clubhouse chemistry” is an allusion to baseball, but the idea that we’re bro-y people just couldn’t be more off. We’re a bunch of weird nerds. We’re outsiders, basically. And so we have people who are gay, people of different backgrounds. I don’t know. I found the piece reaaaally, really frustrating. And that’s as much as I’ll say.

Nate doesn’t like to talk about it.

139 darthstar  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:49:22am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

MY KIDS SHOULD HAVE SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION, BUT NO MOAR TAXES!!!!!!

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Is she saying the Secret Service should protect her kids from her?

140 Ming  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:56:27am

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

The Baltic states are exceedingly nervous; they all have large ethnic Russian minorities, and a Latvian of my acquaintance refers to them quite openly as “fifth columnists”.

It’s quite a surprise, but we apparently have a re-awakening of the Cold War. Of course, this is only an echo of the Cold War of 1945 - 1991. But given the obvious concerns of the Baltic states, and I assume Poland and maybe other Eastern European countries (Georgia comes to mind), it looks like this is more of a crisis than I’d realized.

141 AntonSirius  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:20:45pm

Hmm. I wonder if this will work:

☭lenn ☭reenwald

142 AntonSirius  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:23:33pm

Good. I think I will use that from now on.

143 ipsos  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:35:25pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Burritos are proof that that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Wouldn’t that be a beer-ito?

144 Khal Wimpo  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 5:31:16pm

Dang. Just tried to log in here after so long, and here I was all excited because I actually had something relevant to share. Feh.

Anyway - here it is: the struggling tech review site PandoDaily published a truly odious piece about Crimea today.

Gary Brecher’s recites a bunch of stuff he got from poring over books of how f’d up things have been in Ukraine in the 20th century, all in service of basically painting all Americans objecting to the Crimean takeover as blind tools of De Eebil Military Industrial Complex Overlords, and concludes with this little zinger.

So if you had the opportunity to declare yourself a Russian, with the security of living on a highly-defensible diamond-shaped peninsula with only two narrow access points, you might well decide to sign up with Putin’s Russia rather than whoever has declared him- or herself Hetman in Kiev.

Ain’t that just yummy?

145 DKoch  Mon, Mar 17, 2014 5:56:31pm

Matt Yglesias’ glib reaction to factory collapse is Dudebro self-parody

Yglesias shockingly immoral indifference to the death of 238 poor sweat shop workers in Bangladesh

Remember that. Dudebros don’t give a damn about anyone other than themselves.


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