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1 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:02:17pm

Well that’s 25 seconds of my life I won’t get back. Just your usual bs about how raising the minimum wage hurts employers. And hell the GOP will never admit this but refusing to raise the MW makes people more dependent on government. Minimum wage being raised isn’t the solution to all job problems but I’ll tell you what it does too. It allows people who are raising a family to provide more and better paid employees are more productive employees. A decent wage is good not just for the employee but employer too.

2 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:02:40pm

“We heard kids are really into hipster douchebags nowadays.”

3 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:03:15pm

This guy is patently unbelievable the second he starts delivering his lines.

4 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:04:23pm

re: #3 jaunte

This guy is patently unbelievable the second he starts delivering his lines.

He looks like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite if Kip had became a Republican hipster doucher.

5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:04:30pm

Tortoise shell glasses lol

6 Lancelot Link  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:04:56pm

A more perfect example of a Backpfeifengesicht is seldom seen.

7 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:05:23pm

Dear GOP,

A “paycheck” is not a magical totem which solves all problems. You actually need to make enough to live on and have protections to make sure you are not robbed blind by unethical business practices.

8 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:06:34pm

re: #6 Lancelot Link

A more perfect example of a Backpfeifengesicht is seldom seen.

“A face in need of a fist”. Too true.

That goes double for the GOP spin-meisters that created this farce.

9 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:07:10pm

“Why can’t Republicans direct?”

10 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:07:58pm

Somebody tell me more about Georgia medical MJ. I’m 15 minutes from the border and my glaucoma doc is from Trinidad.

(Stuck at my ACA navigator shtick, between appointments.)

11 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:11:36pm

Where does that shmuck work? Walmart or McD? How can he afford to fill his car with gas? Or is he filling customer’s cars? (must be NJ)

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:12:00pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

Somebody tell me more about Georgia medical MJ. I’m 15 minutes from the border and my glaucoma doc is from Trinidad.

(Stuck at my ACA navigator shtick, between appointments.)

GA Senate unanimously passed it today. It’s headed back to the House.

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:12:32pm
14 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:13:08pm

The Republican version of Pajama Boy: Just as stereotypical as the Democratic version, and even more clueless.

15 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:14:10pm

Dear dumb douche:

A “paycheck” is worthless if you can’t support yourself with it.

16 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:14:54pm

re: #6 Lancelot Link

A more perfect example of a Backpfeifengesicht is seldom seen.

+1 Just for teaching me that word. Had to look it up.

17 dog philosopher  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:15:30pm

i need a new gig so i can get enough bread to pay for my pad so i can live there with my chick

can you dig it??

18 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:16:03pm

A couple of years ago, my daughter was identified as having learning problems. We learned part of this was vision but she was also having difficulty focusing on tasks and was easily distracted. She was far below proficiency in tasks for her grade level

We’ve had her go thru counseling and testing, worked with the resource teachers and worked tooth and nail to get her into the programs she needed. Last year, we finally got her into the IEP she needed to be in.

Today, she came home with the news that she is in her school Honor Club for good grades.

19 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:16:52pm

re: #15 Pie-onist Overlord

Dear dumb douche:

A “paycheck” is worthless if you can’t support yourself with it.

But they have the dignity of working for a slip of paper!
/

20 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:17:14pm

re: #18 Kragar

A couple of years ago, my daughter was identified as having learning problems. We learned part of this was vision but she was also having difficulty focusing on tasks and was easily distracted. She was far below proficiency in tasks for her grade level

We’ve had her go thru counseling and testing, worked with the resource teachers and worked tooth and nail to get her into the programs she needed. Last year, we finally got her into the IEP she needed to be in.

Today, she came home with the news that she is in her school Honor Club for good grades.

Aren’t IEPs great? I was on one throughout school too. Today I’m a college graduate. Props to your daughter.

21 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:18:32pm

My God, it’s like Shia Labeouf and Giovanni Ribisi made it and created the most punchable face in history.

22 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:18:32pm

Oh, FFS. I’ll bet this guy wants you to think he makes 6 figures…

23 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:18:51pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

GA Senate unanimously passed it today. It’s headed back to the House.

Too soon, then, to put in for a Medicare bong.

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:18:58pm

re: #19 Kragar

But they have the dignity of working for a slip of paper!
/

For the past 3 days I have been engaging TCOT idiots repeating THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TALKING POINTS HURR HURR I RAISED MYSELF BY MY OWN BOOTSTRAPS & NEVER TOOK A HANDOUT SO TEH POORS SHOULDN’T GET NO WELFARES & NO FOOD STAMPS!!!!!!

This morning’s Red-plate Special was a real treat. Sorry you missed the fun.

25 Tigger2  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:20:10pm

More of the job creator bullshit, we’ve been hearing that for years, they got tax cut after tax cut, where the hell are all the jobs those job creators should have produced.

26 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:20:15pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

My God, it’s like Shia Labeouf and Giovanni Ribisi made it and created the most punchable face in history.

Okay, that’s mean but accurate. I mean damn it Ad people make your person likable. I still say it’s Kip from ND though.

27 Jdorfma4  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:21:23pm

Nice Audi.

28 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:21:43pm

re: #25 Tigger2

More of the job creator bullshit we’ve been hearing that for years, they got tax cut after tax cut, where are all the jobs the job creators should have produced.

Precisely. We’ve heard thousands of times now that tax cuts are good for businesses and jobs. Okay, well why aren’t employers investing in people? Oh and not to mention that Mr. Douchestache’s party only supports tax cuts for large businesses and opposes tax cuts for small businesses which has been a cornerstone of Democratic policy for a while.

29 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:22:07pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Aren’t IEPs great? I was on one throughout school too. Today I’m a college graduate. Props to your daughter.

With the cuts they’ve been hitting the schools with, it seems like its really hard to meet the requirements to get in. I felt like pulling out my hair on a few occasions.

“We ran 14 tests, and she did really badly on 9 of them, but her scores on the other 5 brought her overall score up to an 86. You need an 84 or below to qualify.”

That is when I got our own therapist and had him run tests and submitted those results to the district.

30 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:22:30pm

Of course, that “six figures” comes out to $8,394.03 per year. And the only reason he can afford that car is because Mom & Dad co-signed for it while he’s still living in their basement. No doubt with insurance and taxes, gas and maintenance, it costs him every penny he brings home.

31 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:23:34pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

Of course, that “six figures” comes out to $8,394.03 per year. And the only reason he can afford that car is because Mom & Dad co-signed for it while he’s still living in their basement. No doubt with insurance and taxes, gas and maintenance, it costs him every penny he brings home.

It’s probs not his car, he’s filling it up for the customer somewhere in NJ which is not a “pump your own” state.

32 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:24:05pm

re: #29 Kragar

With the cuts they’ve been hitting the schools with, it seems like its really hard to meet the requirements to get in. I felt like pulling out my hair on a few occasions.

“We ran 14 tests, and she did really badly on 9 of them, but her scores on the other 5 brought her overall score up to an 86. You need an 84 or below to qualify.”

That is when I got our own therapist and had him run tests and submitted those results to the district.

That is annoying. It really is a great program. I know i benefited from having smaller classes or classes where a special ed teacher was present. Some of the regular teachers and I am not trying to knock them just had a harder time dealing with someone on the AS spectrum.

33 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:25:12pm

I like how he leads off with the dog-eared “People should feel lucky to have a job” BS that’s always a lead-in to the argument that employers are somehow being benevolent by creating jobs and that people should try to reward that “generosity” by furthering the business’ ability to make obscene amounts of wealth without hindrance from things like employee wages, employee benefits, employee safety, etc.

34 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:25:45pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

My God, it’s like Shia Labeouf and Giovanni Ribisi made it and created the most punchable face in history.

Too funny. Not to mention that young Republicans are already irritating.

35 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:26:02pm

How to demolish every GOP talking point

6 Things Rich People Need to Stop Saying

“What the hell?” you’re probably thinking, if you’re somehow both rich and reading an article with this title, “I didn’t crash the economy!” You might even be tempted to take to a microphone, to defend yourself and your wealthy friends. But before you do, I want you to stop and ask yourself, “Will this make me sound like an out-of-touch douchebag?”

36 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:26:51pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

I like how he leads off with the dog-eared “People should feel lucky to have a job” BS that’s always a lead-in to the argument that employers are somehow being benevolent by creating jobs and that people should try to reward that “generosity” by furthering the business’ ability to make obscene amounts of wealth without hindrance from things like employee wages, employee benefits, employee safety, etc.

Yeah that employer’s not giving you a job out of the goodness of his heart. He’s doing it because he wants to maximize profits and you know what, that’s fine, but don’t sell me this bs that he hired me out of pure benevolence and that having to pay his employees a little more is some punishment to him.

37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:27:13pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Too soon, then, to put in for a Medicare bong.

yeah And apparently it’s only for cannabis oil for treating pediatric seizures.

38 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:27:19pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

I like how he leads off with the dog-eared “People should feel lucky to have a job” BS that’s always a lead-in to the argument that employers are somehow being benevolent by creating jobs and that people should try to reward that “generosity” by furthering the business’ ability to make obscene amounts of wealth without hindrance from things like employee wages, employee benefits, employee safety, etc.

I noticed that shout-out to Feudalism as well.

All that was missing was for a fat cat to show up and the young Republican to start cringing and scraping before his betters.

39 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:28:09pm

re: #31 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s probs not his car, he’s filling it up for the customer somewhere in NJ which is not a “pump your own” state.

Haha, there’s another one in which he’s driving. First comment is, “Douche”.

Youtube Video

40 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:28:14pm

re: #34 EPR-radar

Too funny. Not to mention that young Republicans are already irritating.

They weren’t as bad at my university since we have a lot of Libertarians so the ones I knew were at least fairly socially liberal though their propensity to spout off von Mises style crap on economics(GMU is notorious for its economics department which is where many of the College R’s are from as opposed to your usual business major types).

41 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:28:15pm

re: #35 Kragar

That should have run on the front page of the New York Times, rather than as a cracked.com six-pointer.

42 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:29:16pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah And apparently it’s only for cannabis oil for treating pediatric seizures.

I could learn to twitch. Or twerk, or tweet or some shit.

43 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:30:43pm

re: #39 Justanotherhuman

Haha, there’s another one in which he’s driving. First comment is, “Douche”.

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Oh my fucking God, is he serious? The GOP, which has had a perpetual hard-on for Keystone XL for years now and is forever arguing that the President is “holding back” the economy by not allowing oil companies to frak themselves silly and drill on any bit of land they so choose, is now trying to lay claim to his “All of the Above” energy policy proposals?

44 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:31:13pm

“Pajama Guy” could so kick this guy’s ass.

45 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:31:35pm

re: #44 Pie-onist Overlord

“Pajama Guy” could so kick this guy’s ass.

Who was Pajama guy? DF referenced him and now you have.

46 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:32:53pm

re: #41 EPR-radar

That should have run on the front page of the New York Times, rather than as a cracked.com six-pointer.

Anything by David Wong is worth a read.

What is the Monkeysphere?

First, picture a monkey. A monkey dressed like a little pirate, if that helps you. We’ll call him Slappy.

Imagine you have Slappy as a pet. Imagine a personality for him. Maybe you and he have little pirate monkey adventures and maybe even join up to fight crime. Think how sad you’d be if Slappy died.

Now, imagine you get four more monkeys. We’ll call them Tito, Bubbles, Marcel and ShitTosser. Imagine personalities for each of them now. Maybe one is aggressive, one is affectionate, one is quiet, the other just throws shit all the time. But they’re all your personal monkey friends.

Now imagine a hundred monkeys.

Not so easy now, is it? So how many monkeys would you have to own before you couldn’t remember their names? At what point, in your mind, do your beloved pets become just a faceless sea of monkey? Even though each one is every bit the monkey Slappy was, there’s a certain point where you will no longer really care if one of them dies.

So how many monkeys would it take before you stopped caring?
That’s not a rhetorical question. We actually know the number.

47 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:32:54pm

My niece is sporting the coolest onesie today- I cry in Spanglish. Too much.

48 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:34:49pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

My niece is sporting the coolest onesie today- I cry in Spanglish. Too much.

I need one for my niece! Extra large, plz, she’s almost one. Maybe make it a t-shirt,

49 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:36:15pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Who was Pajama guy? DF referenced him and now you have.

“Pajama Guy” obviously has a good-paying job and DRIVES A SWEET CAR.
Youtube Video

50 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:38:02pm

Actually I read the Gawker article on this guy yesterday.

Apparently he is very well connected, probably does make fairly good money.

Which inevitably leads to the question of why anybody should listen to his petty ass problems and nonsensical concerns.

51 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:38:43pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

I need one for my niece! Extra large, plz, she’s almost one. Maybe make it a t-shirt,

I’ll have to ask my SiL where they got it. She really is getting some cool shirts though. Hers yesterday was “I’m nuts for Grandma” with a little squirrel on it.

52 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:39:37pm
53 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:39:48pm

Using a hipster douchebag to try and sell a party of greedy douchebags?

Seems legit.

54 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:42:00pm

re: #17 dog philosopher

can you dig it??

Obligatory:

Youtube Video

55 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:42:17pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

Actually I read the Gawker article on this guy yesterday.

Apparently he is very well connected, probably does make fairly good money.

Which inevitably leads to the question of why anybody should listen to his petty ass problems and nonsensical concerns.

I noticed this:

But Scott has a lot of hardships that I don’t, frankly. And I don’t just mean his inability to take his eyes off the cue cards beside the camera. (Going for on-the-street conversational veritè? You’re doing it creepily wrong.)

56 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:43:35pm

re: #52 NJDhockeyfan

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57 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:46:36pm

I remember this. Does that make me old?

58 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:47:47pm

Commercial has all the believability of those Ford commercials from a couple years back, where “random” customers were chosen to make comments to the press. Like the one who bought from Ford because he didn’t want to buy a car from a company that had been bailed out, a direct slap in the face to Ford’s competitors despite Ford’s CEO begging for that bailout to remain in business.

59 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:48:16pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

I noticed this:

You’re right. He never looks at the camera. He’s always looking off behind and to the right.

60 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:50:27pm

I mean the thing just comes off so fake. I mean it’s one thing ot believe upping the MW is good policy but he just comes off as gee golly I’m proud to defend people who make 100X more not raising wages on their poorest employees because big business can do no wrong*
* Unless they’re participating in gay friendly events

61 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:51:43pm

Scott Greenberg, GOP Hipster: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Read more at: heavy.com

62 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:52:22pm

re: #59 Kragar

You’re right. He never looks at the camera. He’s always looking off behind and to the right.

Of course. It would cost time/money for him to actually memorize the drivel he’s spouting.

More irony from the party of the incessant teleprompter jokes.

In the above-referenced Gawker article, one of the commenters points out that this doesn’t look like a real attempt at Millenial outreach. Instead, it is more like what would be done to reassure a GOP donor that such outreach is being done (i.e., a Potemkin village exercise). This seems about right to me.

63 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:55:00pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

Of course. It would cost time/money for him to actually memorize the drivel he’s spouting.

More irony from the party of the incessant teleprompter jokes.

In the above-referenced Gawker article, one of the commenters points out that this doesn’t look like a real attempt at Millenial outreach. Instead, it is more like what would be done to reassure a GOP donor that such outreach is being done (i.e., a Potemkin village exercise). This seems about right to me.

Exactly, this is aimed squarely at the olds.

64 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:55:20pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

Of course. It would cost time/money for him to actually memorize the drivel he’s spouting.

More irony from the party of the incessant teleprompter jokes.

In the above-referenced Gawker article, one of the commenters points out that this doesn’t look like a real attempt at Millenial outreach. Instead, it is more like what would be done to reassure a GOP donor that such outreach is being done (i.e., a Potemkin village exercise). This seems about right to me.

GOP outreach checklist:

[X] Hipsters

65 Stephen T.  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:55:40pm

re: #18 Kragar

A couple of years ago, my daughter was identified as having learning problems. We learned part of this was vision but she was also having difficulty focusing on tasks and was easily distracted. She was far below proficiency in tasks for her grade level

We’ve had her go thru counseling and testing, worked with the resource teachers and worked tooth and nail to get her into the programs she needed. Last year, we finally got her into the IEP she needed to be in.

Today, she came home with the news that she is in her school Honor Club for good grades.

My wife and I have gone through much of the same thing, except for the happy ending you’ve had.

Once we finally had our daughter in the IEP she needed to be in, the state, in its Republican wisdom, changed the requirements which cut her off, we jumped through more hoops, got it back, only to learn that NO IEPs ever follow a child from grade school to middle school, we’ll have to do everything all over again this fall.

Oh, and if that’s not the worst part, high grades simply don’t have certain classes of IEP available, if you child has made it this far, the reasoning is, they don’t need one.

Pardon me, my frustration is showing.

66 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:55:40pm

re: #61 Justanotherhuman

Scott Greenberg, GOP Hipster: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Read more at: heavy.com

The problem Republicans have with young voters such as myself is they want us to totally ignore the fact that they’re shitheads on social issues that would involve either limiting our rights directly or that of our friends or ignore that their economic policies are about as fiscally conservative as a horse’s ass. They talk down to young voters like we’re stupid.

67 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:55:43pm

Is this really for reals???

68 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:56:15pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

Is this really for reals???

Fraid so.

69 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:56:53pm

re: #18 Kragar

A couple of years ago, my daughter was identified as having learning problems. We learned part of this was vision but she was also having difficulty focusing on tasks and was easily distracted. She was far below proficiency in tasks for her grade level

We’ve had her go thru counseling and testing, worked with the resource teachers and worked tooth and nail to get her into the programs she needed. Last year, we finally got her into the IEP she needed to be in.

Today, she came home with the news that she is in her school Honor Club for good grades.

Yay!

We’re having all kinds of problems with my son’s math right now. His meds are screwed up and there are other things going on too. Hearing a success story is what i need right now :)

70 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:58:57pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

Of course. It would cost time/money for him to actually memorize the drivel he’s spouting.

More irony from the party of the incessant teleprompter jokes.

In the above-referenced Gawker article, one of the commenters points out that this doesn’t look like a real attempt at Millenial outreach. Instead, it is more like what would be done to reassure a GOP donor that such outreach is being done (i.e., a Potemkin village exercise). This seems about right to me.

Yeah I think you guys are right. Really, this is literally the textbook answer every Republican gives for opposing the minimum wage. And there’s also the fact that Scott’s friends are likely fairly recent college graduates who are looking for work better than the minimum wage too. This is just more lame bs.

71 sagehen  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:59:07pm

re: #11 Pie-onist Overlord

Where does that shmuck work? Walmart or McD? How can he afford to fill his car with gas? Or is he filling customer’s cars? (must be NJ)

It’s his mom’s car; he’s the overpaid personal assistant who she and the other senior partners at the law firm have hired to take care of errands the secretaries deem beneath them.

72 thedopefishlives  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 2:59:47pm

Evening Lizardim.

73 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:01:35pm

re: #65 Stephen T.

We’re making the jump to middle school this year. I’m going to have to check the procedures to carry over the IEP here in CA.

74 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:02:24pm

re: #73 Kragar

We’re making the jump to middle school this year. I’m going to have to check the procedures to carry over the IEP here in CA.

Hopefully it’s simple. I was on the IEP program throughout elementary, middle, and high school.

75 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:02:47pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

Commercial has all the believability of those Ford commercials from a couple years back, where “random” customers were chosen to make comments to the press. Like the one who bought from Ford because he didn’t want to buy a car from a company that had been bailed out, a direct slap in the face to Ford’s competitors despite Ford’s CEO begging for that bailout to remain in business.

Ford has made some lame commercials. I have brought this to the attention of some managements that I know, but I doubt it will go anywhere since none of us have any connection to Marketing.

A couple of years ago they made this Mustang commercial, showing various types—young woman in red boots, bike rider in green shirt, food service worker with tattoos, little girl in a ballerina costume—WTF. NOT ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WOULD BUY A MUSTANG.

They missed the “little old lady in blue hat” who could go out to a dealership and actually drive away in a new Mustang: THAT should have been the final cut, not the ballerina girl.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:06:14pm

And don’t get me started on the Lincoln commercials that were total ripoffs of the Chrysler “Imported From Detroit” commercials.

77 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:08:22pm

In 2011 video uncovered by Right Wing Watch on Thursday, the co-founder of the Institute on the Constitution asserts that “evolutionary thinking is dangerous and anti-American.”

“American political philosophy is based on the belief that the world was created by God in six days, and that this creation event occurred about 6,000 years ago,” he explains, adding that news reports describing the Earth as millions of years old were either ignorant or “anti-American.”

“What I’m saying is that the promotion of evolution is an act of disloyalty to America… What I’m saying is there’s no way you can support or believe evolution and sing ‘God Bless America’ during the 7th inning stretch!”

78 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:09:24pm

re: #77 Kragar

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Which America?

79 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:09:53pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Which America?

REAL AMURIKA!

80 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:10:01pm

re: #77 Kragar

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Something ironic about someone in charge of a group that is an apologia for a society that seceded form the Union talking about disloyalty.

81 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:10:52pm

re: #77 Kragar

Damn. Irony really is dead. An official of the League of the South barking about someone allegedly being ‘anti-American’.

82 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:11:20pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

Damn. Irony really is dead. An official of the League of the South barking about someone allegedly being ‘anti-American’.

Beatcha by 51 secs there.

83 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:11:23pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Something ironic about someone in charge of a group that is an apologia for a society that seceded form the Union talking about disloyalty.

“The South will rise again!” = hick version of “Death to America!”

84 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:11:54pm

re: #83 Kragar

“The South will rise again!” = hick version of “Death to America!”

It sounds better in the original frontier gibberish.

85 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:11:58pm

re: #77 Kragar

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And to that I answer:

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86 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:13:07pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And to that I answer:

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Personally I prefer…

Youtube Video

87 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:13:31pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

It sounds better in the original frontier gibberish.

No, Gabby wasn’t an asshole. He genuinely loved Rock Ridge and wasn’t willing to let his fellow townspeople wimp out and run.

88 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:13:54pm

How the hell does a guy with a name like Peroutka end up being at a CSA apologist group? Damn it dude have a Pilsner Urquell and think about what you’re doing. Not that Czechs can’t be dumb but damn.

89 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:14:09pm

re: #86 Kragar

Personally I prefer…

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I normally use that one, but I decided to change things up a little.

90 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:14:19pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

No, Gabby wasn’t an asshole. He genuinely loved Rock Ridge and wasn’t willing to let his fellow townspeople wimp out and run.

True. He also got over his bigotry.

91 blueraven  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:15:59pm

re: #61 Justanotherhuman

Scott Greenberg, GOP Hipster: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Read more at: heavy.com

So according to that site, he works for the Washington Ballet

Uh Oh…The WB receives government support

Grants from the D.C. Commission on the Arts and Humanities, the National Capital Arts and Cultural Affairs program administered by the U.S Commission of Fine Arts, the National Endowment for the Arts and the Government of the District of Columbia have provided support for The Washington Ballet’s artistic, educational, and community engagement programs. Consistent government support is a wonderful reflection of quality and impact of our programs on the Washington, D.C. community and the arts community throughout the nation.

92 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:16:54pm

re: #77 Kragar

American political philosophy is based on the belief that the world was created by God in six days, and that this creation event occurred about 6,000 years ago,” he explains, adding that news reports describing the Earth as millions of years old were either ignorant or “anti-American.

And this is more shit than could fit into all the bulls in the world.

American political philosophy is based on the Enlightenment. Not so incidentally, GOP knuckle-draggers and oxygen thieves are getting seriously into undoing the Enlightenment.

93 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:18:01pm

espn.go.com
Didn’t know Gretsky’s kid played baseball.

94 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:18:53pm

re: #92 EPR-radar

And this is more shit than could fit into all the bulls in the world.

American political philosophy is based on the Enlightenment. Not so incidentally, GOP knuckle-draggers and oxygen thieves are getting seriously into undoing the Enlightenment.

Well when we consider that Bill Donohue was openly defending the Inquisition the other day. I think it’s something that we should come to expect.

95 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:21:55pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Well when we consider that Bill Donohue was openly defending the Inquisition the other day. I think it’s something that we should come to expect.

Yes, that was a hoot. It’s true the Inquisition was not always and everywhere as bad as it got in Spain, but the Inquisition and its relatives (e.g., the Index of prohibited books) can’t honestly be regarded as standing for much that is good.

96 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:22:47pm
97 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:23:50pm

re: #96 jaunte

A Ship Being Built in Iran Looks Awfully Familiar to the U.S.

Mullahs with money to burn.

Well that’s a productive use of money.

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:24:36pm

Something else to add to the never-ending list of things I didn’t know:

In Shakespeare’s As you like it (IV, 1:90) Rosalind says to Orlando:
“The poor world is almost 6,000 years old.”

99 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:25:45pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Well when we consider that Bill Donohue was openly defending the Inquisition the other day. I think it’s something that we should come to expect.

I thought it was hilarious when Donohue threatened to boycott and go after Guinness for pulling their sponsorship of the NYC St. Paddy’s Day parade. That was a hoot.

100 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:27:45pm

SCHULTZ: It’s just, I think, sad when a political party — my political party — has so lost faith in its ideas that it’s pouring all of its energy into election mechanics. And again, I’m a guy who understands and appreciates what we should be doing in order to make sure every vote counts, every vote is legitimate. But that fact is, it ought to be abundantly clear to everybody in this state that there is no massive voter fraud. The only thing that we do have in this state is we have long lines of people who want to vote. And it seems to me that we should be doing everything we can to make it easier, to help these people get their votes counted. And that we should be pitching as political parties our ideas for improving things in the future, rather than mucking around in the mechanics and making it more confrontational at the voting sites and trying to suppress the vote.

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:28:02pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Well that’s a productive use of money.

Hey, they could build an entire fleet and fool the world, just like the folks did in Rock Ridge!

102 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:28:43pm

re: #99 Lidane

I thought it was hilarious when Donohue threatened to boycott and go after Guinness for pulling their sponsorship of the NYC St. Paddy’s Day parade. That was a hoot.

He can stay and drink the green colored Coors all he wants, I’ll drink acutal beer.

103 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:28:47pm

re: #95 EPR-radar

Yes, that was a hoot. It’s true the Inquisition was not always and everywhere as bad as it got in Spain, but the Inquisition and its relatives (e.g., the Index of prohibited books) can’t honestly be regarded as standing for much that is good.

Kept me from having to read Ayn Rand for years.

104 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:29:15pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

I guess eventually they’ll tow it out and pretend to sink an aircraft carrier.

105 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:29:31pm

re: #100 Kragar

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I believe this is the same GOPer that called Walker out over the union bullshit too. Good guy. Surprised he’s still in. Thought someone like him would be primaried for sure.

106 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:30:21pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Kept me from having to read Ayn Rand for years.

Lucky, I had to read The Fountainhead in 11th grade philosophy though that was a rewarding experience since I felt the same reading it that Officer Barbrady did after reading Atlas Shrugged.

107 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:30:30pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

I believe this is the same GOPer that called Walker out over the union bullshit too. Good guy. Surprised he’s still in. Thought someone like him would be primaried for sure.

He’s not running again.

108 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:31:27pm

re: #107 Kragar

He’s not running again.

Well there speaks to my adage that the only good Republican is either retired or was elected before I was born. Meant to phrase that as not to say the only good republican is a dead one because that sounds too much like the infamous quote attributed to Sheridan and has a totally different meaning on what I am getting at here.

109 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:32:44pm

Crossing the streams:

110 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:32:49pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Lucky, I had to read The Fountainhead in 11th grade philosophy though that was a rewarding experience since I felt the same reading it that Officer Barbrady did after reading Atlas Shrugged.

It seems like malfeasance to assign Ayn Rand in a philosophy class, except perhaps as a target for criticism.

111 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:34:04pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

It seems like malfeasance to assign Ayn Rand in a philosophy class, except perhaps as a target for criticism.

The same could be said for a literature class.

She really was a terrible writer.

112 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:34:15pm

Drudge breathless headline

Spy Drones Poach Cellphones

Who does that make you think of? KGB/FSB? NSA/CIA? Homeland sec.?

I thought NSA when I saw that headline but the real deal is it’s just a hacker experiment for a conference. Nothing special they could do this from a car or a backpack. Dude needs to ease off on the caffeine. Or whatever keeps him so excited. The article has zero evidence any spies are doing this for realz. Nothing.

113 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:34:31pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

It seems like malfeasance to assign Ayn Rand in a philosophy class, except perhaps as a target for criticism.

Probably had outlawed caning. It was either her or the hemlock.

114 SpaceJesus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:35:44pm

thanks for this. i haven’t had this much fun with a facebook post in a while

115 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:36:08pm

re: #109 Lidane

Crossing the streams:

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FNC can go fuck themselves. People died in attacks on embassies and consulates in the Bush years too but FNC was too busy getting hard about Cowboy diplomacy to give a damn about those people but BENGHAZI HAPPENS and it’s like no president ever had an embassy attacked ever except Jimmy Carter who is worse than Satan, OBL, Saddam Hussein, and Barack Obama combined at that network.

116 SpaceJesus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:36:38pm

i wonder how many cases of pbr they had to pay this guy with

117 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:36:41pm

Twitter has been shut down in Turkey; a Turkish friend of mine just confirmed it.

Erdogan, Erdogan, Erdogan!!

*headdesk*

118 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:36:56pm

re: #111 Lidane

The same could be said for a literature class.

She really was a terrible writer.

Youtube Video

119 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:37:47pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

It seems like malfeasance to assign Ayn Rand in a philosophy class, except perhaps as a target for criticism.

Teacher did a great job playing devil’s advocate that whole semester. I think he generally speaking was a liberal from what I heard from people who later had him for political science but he was able to really challenge our minds. Plus we saw the infamous Phil Donahue- Ayn Rand video where Ayn is the grandmother from hell who would never give you a gift because charity is bad.

120 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:38:19pm

re: #118 Kragar

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And that’s coming from perhaps the most famous Libertarians in the business.

121 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:38:21pm

Kim Dotcom won’t get more FBI evidence

radionz.co.nz

“In a major ruling in the Kim Dotcom case, the Supreme Court has refused to allow the accused internet pirate access to more FBI documents about his case.

“American authorities are trying to extradite Mr Dotcom, and three colleagues, to face charges in relation one of the world’s biggest internet copyright cases.

“The Court of Appeal had ruled that the United States only had to give Mr Dotcom’s legal team a 109-page summary of the evidence against him.” More

Sorry, dudebro—money can’t always buy everything.

122 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:39:39pm

And now, afternoon stress relief…

Youtube Video

123 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:40:54pm

re: #121 Justanotherhuman

There’s big money on both sides of this dispute, which is likely the main reason Mr. Dotcom can’t buy his way out of this mess. In other words, Disney et al. have already acquired the fiercest copyright system money can buy.

124 b.d.  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:42:10pm

And they wonder why there aren’t any famous conservative actors.

I’ve seen more appealing mimes than that wannabe hipster douchebag. MIMES!

125 palomino  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:45:50pm

re: #100 Kragar

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If you can’t beat them, make sure they don’t vote. What else can the GOP do at this point? The demographic math slowly weakens the GOP with each passing day.

The GOP’s alternative would be to moderate and update both their tone and substance, while remaining conservative. But that’s not really possibly with the party so indebted to their TP/far right wing.

126 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:47:56pm

re: #124 b.d.

And they wonder why there aren’t any famous conservative actors.

Huh? Sorry that’s not quite right. Few maybe but still.

Denzel Washington, LL Cool J, James Caan, James Earl Jones…. Vince Vaughn. There is even a Republican club for actors, directors etc.

127 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:51:14pm

OFFS

128 b.d.  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:52:21pm

re: #126 Political Atheist

Huh? Sorry that’s not quite right. Few maybe but still.

Denzel Washington, LL Cool J, James Caan, James Earl Jones…. Vince Vaughn. There is even a Republican club for actors, directors etc.

I stand corrected obviously, I was somewhat referring to the wingnut whine of how all of Hollywood is nothing but liberals.

129 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:52:42pm

re: #127 Kragar

Billy Graham’s daughter is babbling about the Rapture while his son is saying that Putin has the moral high ground.

Amazing.

130 Skip Intro  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:53:19pm

re: #129 Lidane

Billy Graham’s daughter is babbling about the Rapture while his son is saying that Putin has the moral high ground.

Amazing.

When does she go on CNN, or is from CNN?

131 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:57:18pm

re: #126 Political Atheist

Huh? Sorry that’s not quite right. Few maybe but still.

Denzel Washington, LL Cool J, James Caan, James Earl Jones…. Vince Vaughn. There is even a Republican club for actors, directors etc.

Denzel:

No. I’m an independent. In some ways I’m liberal, and other ways I’m conservative. We get so locked in on “you have to be this or that.” It’s ridiculous. I’m not a liberal or a conservative completely. Who is? Or why do you have to be? You assess the pros, the cons, of both sides and you make an intelligent decision.

132 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:58:09pm

re: #128 b.d.

I stand corrected obviously, I was somewhat referring to the wingnut whine of how all of Hollywood is nothing but liberals.

Your wingnut types would be Jon Voigt, Scott Baio, Kelsey Grammer, Craig T. Nelson and the ever wingnutty Victoria Jackson.

133 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:59:31pm

ITS THE FIRST DAY OF SPRING!

Youtube Video

134 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:59:39pm

re: #129 Lidane

Billy Graham’s daughter is babbling about the Rapture while his son is saying that Putin has the moral high ground.

Amazing.

Not so much if you know Billy Graham as well as some of us here in NC did.

135 AntonSirius  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:01:06pm

re: #112 Political Atheist

I thought NSA when I saw that headline but the real deal is it’s just a hacker experiment for a conference. Nothing special they could do this from a car or a backpack. Dude needs to ease off on the caffeine. Or whatever keeps him so excited. The article has zero evidence any spies are doing this for realz. Nothing.

By Greenwald’s Law of Transference, if hackers can do it the NSA can do it, and if the NSA can do it they are doing it.

OMG THE NSA ARE USING DROOOOOOONES TO STEAL MY CELLPHONE CALLS!!!!

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:03:13pm

re: #127 Kragar

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OFFS

IT WAS A BETA TEST OF TEH RAPTURE!!!! IT COULDN’T BE A REAL RAPTURE BECAUSE THE PLANE WAS FULL OF TEH MUSLINS & TEH HEATHEN CHINEE!!!!

137 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:03:28pm
138 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:03:34pm

OT Drive-by, via Gus:

139 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:05:31pm

re: #128 b.d.

I stand corrected obviously, I was somewhat referring to the wingnut whine of how all of Hollywood is nothing but liberals.

Yeah all they see is the Barbara Streisands and just take a critics bias. Blah blah. Like the NRA they do a big disservice to their own cause.

I just was aware ‘cause where I live there is a lot of production people, mostly mid level actors and tons of crew like sound guys etc. It’s a topic among their own and there are certainly a couple directors that will not cast one of the “enemy” i.e. GOP or more rarely Democrats. Dick Wolf who produced Law and Order is infamous for not hiring anyone with even a whiff of right lean unless he gets over ruled. which in his case is not often.

Personally i think taking politics to work with resentments is really super dickish. Hire them for their talent. Drinking or voting buddy status is not required. I happen to be aware of Bruce Boxleitner missing out on a good gig over this. Too bad he’s a good guy caught in a tough moment for most actors. You don’t see him out there on Fox like Jon Voight shilling for the extreme view.

140 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:05:38pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

>OT Drive-by, via Gus:

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Make sure Alouette sees that. She’ll get a kick out of it.

BBL

141 palomino  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:07:09pm

re: #126 Political Atheist

Huh? Sorry that’s not quite right. Few maybe but still.

Denzel Washington, LL Cool J, James Caan, James Earl Jones…. Vince Vaughn. There is even a Republican club for actors, directors etc.

Pretty sure that Denzel is an independent with political views across the spectrum. James Earl Jones is a member of the NRA and supported the Iraq War (at first anyway), but he’s on record denouncing the TP as racist in no uncertain terms. These guys are too independent minded and their views all over the map so they’re hard to pigeonhole.

James Caan is an idiot who just loves his money and hates taxes. Vaughn is more of a Ron Paul libertarian.

Better examples of celebs who are consistently conservative (if not Republican) would be: Kelsey Grammer, Angie Harmon, Jon Voight, James Woods, Ahhnold, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris, Don Johnson, Melanie Griffith, Mel Gibson, and a bunch of other aging has-beens.

142 thedopefishlives  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:07:20pm

re: #137 darthstar

[Embedded image]#Teamwork.

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:08:07pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Make sure Alouette sees that. She’ll get a kick out of it.

BBL

Cute.

144 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:11:42pm

re: #139 Political Atheist

Yeah all they see is the Barbara Streisands and just take a critics bias. Blah blah. Like the NRA they do a big disservice to their own cause.

I just was aware ‘cause where I live there is a lot of production people, mostly mid level actors and tons of crew like sound guys etc. It’s a topic among their own and there are certainly a couple directors that will not cast one of the “enemy” i.e. GOP or more rarely Democrats. Dick Wolf who produced Law and Order is infamous for not hiring anyone with even a whiff of right lean unless he gets over ruled. which in his case is not often.

Personally i think taking politics to work with resentments is really super dickish. Hire them for their talent. Drinking or voting buddy status is not required. I happen to be aware of Bruce Boxleitner missing out on a good gig over this. Too bad he’s a good guy caught in a tough moment for most actors. You don’t see him out there on Fox like Jon Voight shilling for the extreme view.

Dick Wolf hired Fred Thompson in a recurring role for a short period. He’s the most prominent one I can remember.

145 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:12:59pm
146 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:14:07pm

Twitter says looking into reports that service banned in Turkey

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Twitter Inc said on Thursday that it is looking into reports that its service has been banned in Turkey.

“The Internet company published a message on its service on Thursday advising users in Turkey that it was possible to send Tweets using mobile phone text messaging.” End

147 AntonSirius  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:15:47pm

Here’s how you know Scott Greenberg is generally full of shit. From the WordPress site for his PR company:

What makes AMPS Creative different? We brand local companies and work hand in hand with entrepreneurs. We develop signature media campaigns. We launch our clients’ products, promote social events and throw dynamic gallery openings. We design great websites, create luxe invitations and snap party pictures. We introduce and showcase incredible new restaurants, bars, salons, musicians, tattoo parlors and avant-garde boutiques. We blog, tweet and manage e-newsletter campaigns.

To repeat: he claims he designs great websites on the front page of the WordPress blog he uses for a company website.

He didn’t even bother setting up a new domain name to take the ‘wordpress’ out of the URL.

148 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:16:42pm
149 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:16:59pm

re: #141 palomino

& Obdi

Lets not exclude the moderates. Denzel came out strong for ‘ol Clint after that empty chair embarrassment. I could supply a few more actors names and tons of top crew. Republicans working in Hollywood. His own words admit in some ways he is conservative. I fit that description, as an Indy too. When BD said conservative i simply did not take that to mean just TP guys or extreme conservatives, or even Republicans. I don’t know of one but some digging might just find a few conservative Dems working in Hollywood at a high level. Blue Dog Dems to put a slightly finer point on it.

Time for my commute BBL

150 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:17:14pm

Grifters gotta grift, yo:

151 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:18:29pm

re: #144 Justanotherhuman

Dick Wolf hired Fred Thompson in a recurring role for a short period. He’s the most prominent one I can remember.

Yeah one of the few exceptions. Was that before his Senate stint? I don’t watch the show.

152 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:20:01pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

I like the ear holes. Someone is taking their Babushkats seriously.

153 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:21:01pm

re: #147 AntonSirius

Here’s how you know Scott Greenberg is generally full of shit. From the WordPress site for his PR company:

To repeat: he claims he designs great websites on the front page of the WordPress blog he uses for a company website.

He didn’t even bother setting up a new domain name to take the ‘wordpress’ out of the URL.

2005 called, they want their sucky website design back.

154 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:21:16pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

Twitter says looking into reports that service banned in Turkey

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Twitter Inc said on Thursday that it is looking into reports that its service has been banned in Turkey.

“The Internet company published a message on its service on Thursday advising users in Turkey that it was possible to send Tweets using mobile phone text messaging.” End

The government there has been making noises about cracking down on the evils of social networking sites. Let’s hope it’s just a morality thing and not a prelude to a violent crackdown.

155 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:22:20pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

Twitter says looking into reports that service banned in Turkey

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Twitter Inc said on Thursday that it is looking into reports that its service has been banned in Turkey.

“The Internet company published a message on its service on Thursday advising users in Turkey that it was possible to send Tweets using mobile phone text messaging.” End

Turks I know are going through VPN’s, apparently, and they’re able to get online on Twitter, thereby making a mockery of Erdogan’s shutdown.

156 Floral Giraffe  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:22:35pm

re: #18 Kragar

WOOT!
Congratulations to her for all the hard work!
And to you & your family for getting her the help she needed!
Honor Club Star!!!

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:23:31pm

re: #147 AntonSirius

Here’s how you know Scott Greenberg is generally full of shit. From the WordPress site for his PR company:

To repeat: he claims he designs great websites on the front page of the WordPress blog he uses for a company website.

He didn’t even bother setting up a new domain name to take the ‘wordpress’ out of the URL.

He’s just being fiscally conservative…

158 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:23:41pm

re: #147 AntonSirius

Here’s how you know Scott Greenberg is generally full of shit. From the WordPress site for his PR company:

To repeat: he claims he designs great websites on the front page of the WordPress blog he uses for a company website.

He didn’t even bother setting up a new domain name to take the ‘wordpress’ out of the URL.

So—doesn’t do PR for the ballet? A lawyer who doesn’t practice law? Frustrated musician? Doesn’t know what he wants to be when he grows up?

Well, at least it sounds like his wife is making the paycheck.

159 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:23:56pm

re: #139 Political Atheist

Dick Wolf who produced Law and Order is infamous for not hiring anyone with even a whiff of right lean unless he gets over ruled. which in his case is not often.

Michael Moriarty and Angie Harmon, just off the top of my head.

160 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:24:49pm

re: #151 Political Atheist

Yeah one of the few exceptions. Was that before his Senate stint? I don’t watch the show.

Yeah, I think so. He acted that part, too. : )

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:29:42pm

re: #148 darthstar

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Of course, my first tweet had to have a typo.
hahahaaaa

162 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:30:43pm

re: #158 Justanotherhuman

“My wife recently accepted a role in Washington DC, working with the fe
deral government in our
nation’s counter
-
terrorism efforts, so I am now exploring new opportunities as a high
-
level public
relations and outreach executive with a dynamic organization where I can showcase my leadership
and expertise in the Washington DC ar
ea.”

(That’s exactly how it’s set up, here:
Page 1)

163 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:34:20pm

People have been posting that pic of Fred Phelps with the Mark Twain quote(fake or not) on it all day. I just realized that wasn’t Clint Eastwood in the pic…I’ve been confused for hours wondering if Clint had died.

164 blueraven  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:34:51pm

re: #149 Political Atheist

& Obdi

Lets not exclude the moderates. Denzel came out strong for ‘ol Clint after that empty chair embarrassment. I could supply a few more actors names and tons of top crew. Republicans working in Hollywood. His own words admit in some ways he is conservative. I fit that description, as an Indy too. When BD said conservative i simply did not take that to mean just TP guys or extreme conservatives, or even Republicans. I don’t know of one but some digging might just find a few conservative Dems working in Hollywood at a high level. Blue Dog Dems to put a slightly finer point on it.

Time for my commute BBL

Good grief. Eastwood is still my hero too, as far as his movies go.

What Denzel said

“I have the utmost respect for him as an actor and as a director,” Washington said. “He’s my hero.”

Although Washington supported Obama in 2008, he graciously declined to address an empty chair or do any “Eastwooding,” as it’s come to be known on the Internet. He calls himself an independent and said in this election he isn’t committing to either side.

I haven’t seen anywhere that he self identifies as a “capital C” Conservative

165 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:35:19pm

re: #162 Justanotherhuman

An MS Word template???

166 AntonSirius  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:35:51pm

re: #162 Justanotherhuman

“My wife recently accepted a role in Washington DC, working with the fe
deral government in our
nation’s counter
-
terrorism efforts, so I am now exploring new opportunities as a high
-
level public
relations and outreach executive with a dynamic organization where I can showcase my leadership
and expertise in the Washington DC ar
ea.”

(That’s exactly how it’s set up, here: [Embedded content]

Page 1)

Wait… he worked for Exide Technologies?

This Exide Technologies?

It’s almost too perfect.

167 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:37:55pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

An MS Word template???

He’d just say he’s “old school”. : )

At 30.

168 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:38:40pm
169 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:39:41pm

re: #168 darthstar

Most people don’t confuse Twittering with “working in my office”.

170 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:39:55pm

re: #151 Political Atheist

Yeah one of the few exceptions. Was that before his Senate stint? I don’t watch the show.

Then what’s your basis for the claim about Wolf’s strict hiring preferences? I can count at least three right wing nut jobs that were given major, multi season lead roles on Law and Order.

171 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:40:57pm

re: #166 AntonSirius

Wait… he worked for Exide Technologies?

This Exide Technologies?

It’s almost too perfect.

Maybe that’s where his law school “experience” came in handy…

172 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:43:03pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe that’s where his law school “experience” came in handy…

Probably not. The CV doesn’t seem to list any state bar admissions, and no BigCorp is going to get into an unauthorized practice of law mess.

Edited to add: There is also no apparent law school diploma noted on the CV.

173 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:44:30pm

re: #172 EPR-radar

Probably not. The CV doesn’t seem to list any state bar admissions, and no BigCorp is going to get into an unauthorized practice of law mess.

Notice that I only referred to his law school experience.
I’m snarking on the way he’s padding his resume.

174 Skip Intro  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:44:48pm

U.S. Navy P-8 Finds ‘Nothing’ In Debris Hunt, Returns To Refuel

A U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft searching the area where an Australian satellite traced possible debris found nothing on Thursday and headed back to its base, authorities said.

CNN scrambling to find model P-8A Poseidon to use as prop for the next 24 hours.

175 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:46:44pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Notice that I only referred to his law school experience.
I’m snarking on the way he’s padding his resume.

Yes, he does a lot. Including a “portfolio” for chrissakes.

Probably can’t pass the bar anywhere. Wait too long after law school graduation and you might not be able to pass it. : )

176 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:47:14pm

re: #174 Skip Intro

>U.S. Navy P-8 Finds ‘Nothing’ In Debris Hunt, Returns To Refuel

>A U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft searching the area where an Australian satellite traced possible debris found nothing on Thursday and headed back to its base, authorities said.

CNN scrambling to find model P-8A Poseidon to use as prop for the next 24 hours.

While their model shop is working on Cthulhu and Godzilla figurines for next week’s coverage?

177 thedopefishlives  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:49:01pm

re: #176 EPR-radar

While their model shop is working on Cthulhu and Godzilla figurines for next week’s coverage?

They imported a Jesus figurine from Fox News.

178 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:50:46pm

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

Yes, he does a lot. Including a “portfolio” for chrissakes.

Probably can’t pass the bar anywhere. Wait too long after law school graduation and you might not be able to pass it. : )

I thought law school and passing a state bar exam were almost unrelated (whence the big business in bar preparation courses).

With respect to resume padding, using two lines of a resume to note that reports were written for clients is very entertaining. I guess the only thing that was left out of this CV was the model UN victory from third grade….

179 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:51:26pm

re: #162 Justanotherhuman

“When it comes to editing and staying organized, I am a hound.”

?

180 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:52:17pm

I think Janie has a swarm of sockpuppets who are retweeting that fake Columbia ID because can real people be that stupid?

Yeah yeah I know the answer.

181 AntonSirius  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:52:23pm

re: #179 jaunte

?

I assumed that was an admission he dogs it.

182 DKoch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:54:19pm

re: #139 Political Atheist

Have you ever watched L&O, most of the story lines are reactionary. There was this episode where the detectives plant heroin on a innocent witness who didn’t want to testify, then they exchange his freedom for testimony, and it was presented in a favorable light, as a neat trick,

183 Skip Intro  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:54:28pm

Is it just me, or are all the stories on the Featured Pages bar broken? None of them display, and what does display is whacked.

Using Firefox 28 on a Mac.

184 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:54:59pm

re: #181 AntonSirius

I assumed that was an admission he dogs it.

I’m still surprised by the nerve of listing under Education “law school experience” that has no apparent relation to any conferred degree or even an upcoming degree.

185 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:56:08pm

re: #183 Skip Intro

Is it just me, or are all the stories on the Featured Pages bar broken? None of them display, and what does display is whacked.

It’s not just you…

186 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:56:21pm

re: #183 Skip Intro

They aren’t showing for me either. Firefox 28.0

187 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:56:53pm

I’m slightly embarrassed by the date on my first tweet.

My tweet count shows how little of an impact it’s made long term though:

188 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:56:56pm

re: #172 EPR-radar

Probably not. The CV doesn’t seem to list any state bar admissions, and no BigCorp is going to get into an unauthorized practice of law mess.

Edited to add: There is also no apparent law school diploma noted on the CV.

Ah, drop out? That would explain a lot, although you actually don’t have to graduate law school to pass the bar in some venues—CA, for example.

wikihow.com

189 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:57:08pm

re: #186 jaunte

They aren’t showing for me either. Firefox 28.0

Same here. Safari on a Mac.

190 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:57:32pm

Saw this on twitter and I’m fascinated with the photograph.
The newspaper covering the walls and ceiling, the wood cookstove, the cupboards, the lunchbox and other things hanging on the walls, the way she has her special plates displayed.
And the knife…

<script async src=”//platform.twitter.com” charset=”utf-8”></script>

191 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:57:53pm

Yeah, about that promised aid to Ukraine…..
Pentagon proposes cuts to Ukraine military aid

The Obama administration has proposed a 28% spending cut for a Pentagon program that supports modernizing the military of Ukraine and other former Soviet Union republics, Pentagon budget records show, a move that could endanger efforts to boost Ukraine’s armed forces as they face threats from Russia.

The proposed cuts, which are contained in a detailed budget plan posted online this week, come over the objections of officials with the U.S. European Command, who argue they will hurt U.S. attempts to build armed forces in nations formerly beholden to Russia.

192 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 4:59:02pm

Liam Neeson Saves Dog From A Group Of Teenagers

Actor Liam Neeson reportedly turned real-life hero to save a dog from a group of kids in New York. Reports suggest the Taken star was jogging in Central Park, New York when he heard a woman calling for help as she attempted to stop a group of young thugs throwing rocks at a stray dog they had cornered, according to showbizspy.com. A source tells the National Enquirer, “Liam charged down a path and confronted three gangbanger wannabe types. “Liam yelled that they’d better stop or he’d knock the c**p out of them - but the punks just swaggered up and warned him to mind his own business. In a fury, he warned them to back off fast - or else!” During the confrontation, police arrived at the scene, prompting the alleged attackers to back down and run off. The source continues, “Liam just shook his head and approached the shivering dog, stroking it while the policeman assessed its injuries.”

hollywood.com

Clearly, he was making up for this regrettable incident:

I’m just joking, of course; Liam Neeson’s a cool guy and a good actor.

193 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:00:30pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

shorpy.com

Interesting picture. Had to have been a hard life.

194 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:01:07pm

re: #187 klys

Is there some sort of tool to find the first tweet?

I’ve noticed several people posting about them today….??

195 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:01:47pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Yeah, about that promised aid to Ukraine…..
Pentagon proposes cuts to Ukraine military aid

Just as Biden is in the Baltic states telling them we have their back.

196 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:01:59pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

Is there some sort of tool to find the first tweet?

I’ve noticed several people posting about them today….??

In honor of Twitter’s birthday, you can look up a first tweet with the tool here.

197 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:02:22pm
198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:03:10pm

re: #193 William Barnett-Lewis

shorpy.com

Interesting picture. Had to have been a hard life.

I’m trying to figure out what the round things are in the box on the floor in the lower right corner.

199 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:03:28pm

re: #195 NJDhockeyfan

Just as Biden is in the Baltic states telling them we have their back.

There’s a rather big difference between NATO members (i.e., the Baltic states) and non-members (i.e. the Ukraine).

Putin can grab the Baltic states if he really wants to start World War III.

200 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:03:45pm

re: #196 klys

In honor of Twitter’s birthday, you can look up a first tweet with the tool here.

Thanks, I’m behind the curve today!

201 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:04:38pm

I found my #FirstTweet:


. What was yours? first-tweets.com

Charles is honored.

202 makeitstop  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:05:13pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s just being fiscally conservative…

‘Cheap’ would be closer to it. That Wordpress URL indicates that the site is a freebie, hosted on Wordpress’ site.

Damn, son. At least put in a little effort here.

203 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:05:33pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m trying to figure out what the round things are in the box on the floor in the lower right corner.

Looking at the full size image, I’d guess gourds or squash.

204 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:06:49pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m trying to figure out what the round things are in the box on the floor in the lower right corner.

Ostrich eggs. Of course.

205 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:07:07pm

re: #201 Stanley Sea

206 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:07:09pm

More on the shutdown of Twitter in Turkey:

hurriyetdailynews.com

Just before midnight, access to Twitter was already blocked in Turkey. The Communication Technologies Institution (BTK), which was given extraordinary powers with the recently passed Internet law, lists three court rulings and one prosecutor decision on its website as the reason of the outage.

Eventually, all Internet service providers (ISP) in Turkey have abided by the rulings, as Turkish social media users have started to figure out ways to circumvent the blocking, like DNS-tweaking and VPN services.

Heh. This ain’t the good old days; there’s all manner of ways around things now.

207 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:07:35pm

re: #205 jaunte

[Embedded image]

My blood brother!

208 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:07:47pm

re: #201 Stanley Sea

I found my #FirstTweet:

[Embedded content]

. What was yours? first-tweets.com

Charles is honored.

Heh, Charles’ first tweet was also about Michael Steele:

209 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:07:48pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m trying to figure out what the round things are in the box on the floor in the lower right corner.

Onions? Grapefruit?

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:09:10pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looking closer at the photo, I don’t think that’s a knife. I think it’s a lid lifter.

212 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:11:18pm

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

In fact this has already been thoroughly explained by Mark Twain:

“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”

All of greater wingnuttia lives according to this principle.

213 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:11:51pm
214 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:13:21pm

Gus’ was also a retweet:

Mine was kinda weird/boring—as if anyone would care what I intended to do:

#facepalm

215 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:14:55pm

re: #213 Pie-onist Overlord

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Wow, mine was like 18 hours after yours.

216 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:15:09pm

re: #214 CuriousLurker

WE WERE ALL YOUNG AND FOOLISH.

217 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:15:33pm

re: #215 CuriousLurker

Wow, mine was like 18 hours after yours.

I think we all started Tweeting at the same time.

218 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:16:39pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Yeah, about that promised aid to Ukraine…..
Pentagon proposes cuts to Ukraine military aid

It’s for the entire Warsaw Initiative Fund; Ukraine could get enough. But how much is enough to you?

Cuts could also be changed before or in committee, if warranted. You are aware that this budget was probably made months ago?

219 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:19:17pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

In fact this has already been thoroughly explained by Mark Twain:

“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”

All of greater wingnuttia lives according to this principle.

i.e.

220 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:21:01pm

Have some frogs, because I can.

Husband is moving to a new office down the hall, so I took advantage of the frogs’ sojourn home to grab a photo.

221 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:21:53pm

re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord

I think we all started Tweeting at the same time.

Heh, I was April.

I remember signing on right after the So Cal Easter earthquake. The first photos were from some girl in Calexico.

That to me is still the holy grail, being in some event and presenting it first person to the world.

#ceptformyboringlifepossible

222 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:22:54pm

re: #195 NJDhockeyfan

Just as Biden is in the Baltic states telling them we have their back.

Ya gotta look on the bright side. Now that the Russians have taken over all those Ukrainian bases and ship they now have a smaller military so the money should go farther.

223 dog philosopher  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:24:04pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

Is there some sort of tool to find the first tweet?

tool tweets?

i never tweet when i can toot

224 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:24:08pm

re: #193 William Barnett-Lewis

shorpy.com

Interesting picture. Had to have been a hard life.

That could have been my mother, without the tattoos. We lived in a house with a similar kitchen. No running water (until someone ran a faucet to the front porch from the well in the front yard) and an outhouse; this was only a month or so before my mother went into the hospital to die of cancer and kidney failure. She was 28 and left 3 kids, the youngest only 11 mos old; I was 7 and my younger sister 6. It was 1948.

225 Lidane  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:25:02pm

re: #201 Stanley Sea

What was yours?

Mine was a sarcastic tweet about going to take a midterm exam. Not the most exciting stuff.

226 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:25:34pm

re: #224 Justanotherhuman

That could have been my mother, without the tattoos. We lived in a house with a similar kitchen. No running water (until someone ran a faucet to the front porch from the well in the front yard) and an outhouse; this was only a month or so before my mother went into the hospital to die of cancer and kidney failure. She was 28 and left 3 kids, the youngest only 11 mos old; I was 7 and my younger sister 6. It was 1948.

Damn, that’s tough. {{JAH}}

227 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:26:15pm

re: #225 Lidane

Mine was a sarcastic tweet about going to take a midterm exam. Not the most exciting stuff.

You? Sarcasm? No way. //

228 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:26:32pm

HURR HURR!!!!!!

229 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:26:37pm

re: #223 dog philosopher

tool tweets?

i never tweet when i can toot

Hold it.

230 Jack Burton  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:26:58pm

re: #214 CuriousLurker

Mine was a Foursquare Check In Apparently:

I’m at San Diego Comic-Con International (#SDCC) (111 West Harbor Drive, at Front St, San Diego) w/ 398 others. 4sq.com

10:32 AM - 22 Jul 2010

231 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:28:30pm

OMG the Foursquares. I was following this guy who Foursquared his location like every five minutes.

It took a while before I figured out how to unfollow and block.

232 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:28:41pm

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

>Liam Neeson Saves Dog From A Group Of Teenagers

Not sure they knew who they were fucking with,

At age nine, Neeson began boxing lessons at the All Saints Youth Club and later became Ulster’s amateur senior boxing champion.[9]

233 Jack Burton  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:30:44pm

re: #231 Pie-onist Overlord

OMG the Foursquares. I was following this guy who Foursquared his location like every five minutes.

It took a while before I figured out how to unfollow and block.

A friend of mine checks in on foursquare in different rooms of her house. I think… or rather hope, she’s trying to get a prize of some kind.

234 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:30:48pm

YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON

235 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:31:09pm

<script async src=”//platform.twitter.com” charset=”utf-8”></script>

236 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:31:28pm

Does Twitter not allow you to tweet the same image twice in a row?

237 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:31:44pm

re: #226 CuriousLurker

Damn, that’s tough. {{JAH}}

My mom was pretty but poor and thought my dad (older by 10 yrs) could be a good provider, but he was pretty much a rounder and neglected us a lot. He lived to 69 and died of lymphoma, but I wasn’t in touch with him for 20 yrs after I got married, and at my sister’s request, saw him before he died and went to his funeral. Haven’t seen his side of the family since.

238 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:32:14pm

re: #232 BongCrodny

Not sure they knew who they were fucking with,

Yeah, probably not.

239 Floral Giraffe  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:32:24pm

re: #235 Stanley Sea

I hope the Hoopster sees that!

240 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:32:44pm

re: #224 Justanotherhuman

That could have been my mother, without the tattoos. We lived in a house with a similar kitchen. No running water (until someone ran a faucet to the front porch from the well in the front yard) and an outhouse; this was only a month or so before my mother went into the hospital to die of cancer and kidney failure. She was 28 and left 3 kids, the youngest only 11 mos old; I was 7 and my younger sister 6. It was 1948.

JA, that is tough stuff.

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:32:56pm

re: #193 William Barnett-Lewis

shorpy.com

Interesting picture. Had to have been a hard life.

Thanks for the link to the larger photo, lots more details to see.
Like what appears to be a long fishing bobber propped up against the wall behind her elbow, and the pressed glass deep dish/bowl on the shelf above the box of grapefruit. And the bobbie pin with the star in her hair.

242 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:33:32pm

re: #235 Stanley Sea

That picture looks like it could give a dissecting aortic aneurysm to the unwary viewer.

243 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:33:55pm

re: #239 Floral Giraffe

I hope the Hoopster sees that!

IT GETS BETTER HOOPS!

244 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:34:03pm

re: #235 Stanley Sea

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I am so hungry.

245 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:34:59pm

re: #244 wrenchwench

I am so hungry.

Well, there’s a lot to choose from.

246 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:35:42pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

Well, there’s a lot to choose from.

I have a hard boiled egg. A bloody mary would go good with that….

247 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:35:44pm

Conor Friedersdorf has a serious case of butthurt at being constantly shown up as a pontificating moron with no clue what he’s talking about.

He just posted a 16-part crybaby rant that Glenn Greenwald called “pithy.”

248 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:36:57pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

JA, that is tough stuff.

It’s the story of a lot of women back then. I missed having a mother, but my grandmother and her sisters made up for some of it. Plenty of us had to overcome a lot from our childhood to get where we are. But that’s life, isn’t it? : )

249 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:38:05pm

re: #246 wrenchwench

I have a hard boiled egg. A bloody mary would go good with that….

yeah. Kinda.

250 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:39:23pm

re: #248 Justanotherhuman

It’s the story of a lot of women back then. I missed having a mother, but my grandmother and her sisters made up for some of it. Plenty of us had to overcome a lot from our childhood to get where we are. But that’s life, isn’t it? : )

Yes it is. It also gives pause to others who think they had it bad.

251 dog philosopher  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:39:27pm

re: #193 William Barnett-Lewis

shorpy.com

what an awesome photo site

bookmarked

252 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:40:20pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Conor Friedersdorf has a serious case of butthurt at being constantly shown up as a pontificating moron with no clue what he’s talking about.

He just posted a 16-part crybaby rant that Glenn Greenwald called “pithy.”

This series of tweets by Friedersdorf wasn’t entirely devoid of merit. I was particularly fond of “[end]”.

253 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:40:37pm

That certainly describes Conor.

254 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:40:47pm

re: #248 Justanotherhuman

It’s the story of a lot of women back then. I missed having a mother, but my grandmother and her sisters made up for some of it. Plenty of us had to overcome a lot from our childhood to get where we are. But that’s life, isn’t it? : )

Judging by what I’ve seen of you here, they did a pretty good job. ;o)

255 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:41:05pm

She is the most despised woman in Australia. (To read the story, you must enable cookies.)

Gina Rinehart receives backing from global banks and credit agencies for $11 billion new iron ore mine in Australian outback - @australian
read more on theaustralian.com.au

256 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:42:00pm

Define “reasonable.”

257 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:43:05pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looking closer at the photo, I don’t think that’s a knife. I think it’s a lid lifter.

She’s going to open that hole on top of the stove and set one of those cast iron skillets in it, assuming the stove and the skillet are the same brand so it fits. (Been learning about cast iron cookware.)

258 Jack Burton  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:43:26pm

re: #256 jaunte

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Define “reasonable.”

Something that might make Art Bell or Alex Jones only blush a little.

259 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:45:06pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Conor Friedersdorf has a serious case of butthurt at being constantly shown up as a pontificating moron with no clue what he’s talking about.

He just posted a 16-part crybaby rant that Glenn Greenwald called “pithy.”

About half of the things on that list are things GG does.

260 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:45:27pm

Behold! Serious RT journalist, Abby Martin’s first Tweet!

Which links to “Charlie Sheen Requests Meeting With Obama Over 9/11 Cover-Up!”

261 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:45:58pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Conor Friedersdorf has a serious case of butthurt at being constantly shown up as a pontificating moron with no clue what he’s talking about.

He just posted a 16-part crybaby rant that Glenn Greenwald called “pithy.”

Twitter is conductive to presenting a series of overly-broad bullet points with no consideration of the complexities of real world issues.

In other words, a perfect medium for this “new journalism”.

262 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:46:28pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Conor Friedersdorf has a serious case of butthurt at being constantly shown up as a pontificating moron with no clue what he’s talking about.

He just posted a 16-part crybaby rant that Glenn Greenwald called “pithy.”

263 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:46:52pm

re: #261 EPR-radar

Twitter is conductive to presenting a series of overly-broad bullet points with no consideration of the complexities of real world issues.

In other words, a perfect medium for this “new journalism”.

Shallow and fact free, coming right up!

264 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:48:13pm
265 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:49:33pm

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

Shallow and fact free, coming right up!

Derp!
Why Isn’t the Fourth Amendment Classified as Top Secret?

266 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:50:34pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Is that a widget?

267 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:51:10pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Did I miss a tech tip on how to embed a series of tweets like that?

268 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:51:31pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Ability to write in complete sentences: not required for today’s journalists!

269 Stanley Sea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:51:46pm

heading out. bbl!

270 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:51:52pm

Gawd, this is awful, just awful. This perp must have been full of meth.

Police: Man who killed deputy suspect in 2nd case

kvue.com

I’m wondering why they couldn’t keep him locked up?

271 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:53:02pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

You have to create a custom timeline in the Widgets section of Twitter’s settings — when you Create Widget it gives you the embed code you can paste in here.

272 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:54:02pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

This just kills me: 9) Their narrow conception of journalism leaves no room for non-expert analysis.

Except his and the dudebros, of course, because they do real journalism! The non-expert kind!

273 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:54:44pm

I actually created the custom timeline in Tweetdeck because it’s so easy to set up two columns, one for the custom timeline and one for the search that shows the tweets you want to include, then just drag the tweets into the custom timeline.

274 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:54:58pm
275 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:55:20pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

That picture looks like it could give a dissecting aortic aneurysm to the unwary viewer.

Friend of mine survived one of those five years ago. I’ve been concerned about my aorta ever since.

276 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:55:23pm
277 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:55:56pm

Getting some weird stuff at the end there.

278 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:56:38pm

re: #277 Gus

Getting some weird stuff at the end there.

Hmm, yeah, the script tag left some garbage behind.

279 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:56:40pm

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

More on the shutdown of Twitter in Turkey:

hurriyetdailynews.com

Heh. This ain’t the good old days; there’s all manner of ways around things now.

280 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 5:56:43pm

re: #275 wrenchwench

Friend of mine survived one of those five years ago. I’ve been concerned about my aorta ever since.

My grandfather died from complications following his (very shortly after, but apparently he had a stroke and/or heart attack to follow it up).

281 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:00:46pm

re: #279 wrenchwench

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Heh.

282 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:00:50pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Then what’s your basis for the claim about Wolf’s strict hiring preferences? I can count at least three right wing nut jobs that were given major, multi season lead roles on Law and Order.

That’s a mere handful over twenty years of a show. Short stints big actor name. I know of one guy who was told by his agent that was what killed his hire for the show. That was Bruce Boxleitner. His reaction was kinda, “oh yeah he does that a lot’. Call it anecdotal if you wish.

But if you wanted to have the best resume so to speak to get roles you would not be best off with a GOP affiliation. That would be a moderate disadvantage in a very tough biz.

283 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:01:08pm

re: #280 klys

My grandfather died from complications following his (very shortly after, but apparently he had a stroke and/or heart attack to follow it up).

My aunt’s husband, in his 60s, suffered a torn aorta while planting a rose bush outside their new house and suffered 2 strokes while in hospital, and died a day after the last one (I just happened to be there when it happened—my aunt was downstairs and I had to get her).

284 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:01:12pm

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

She is the most despised woman in Australia. (To read the story, you must enable cookies.)

Gina Rinehart receives backing from global banks and credit agencies for $11 billion new iron ore mine in Australian outback - @australian
read more on theaustralian.com.au

AND SHE IS A JRRB CREEYATER!!!!! $2/DAY & ALL TEH DIRT U CAN EAT!

285 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:02:57pm
286 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:04:15pm

re: #283 Justanotherhuman

My aunt’s husband, in his 60s, suffered a torn aorta while planting a rose bush outside their new house and suffered 2 strokes while in hospital, and died a day after the last one (I just happened to be there when it happened—my aunt was downstairs and I had to get her).

Grandpa was …75? I think? Very sudden, 12 hours from first symptoms to declaration - and part of that was probably delaying making the call because it was a holiday (July 4th).

Really hard on my grandmother; it wasn’t necessarily surprising when she went about a year later.

287 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:05:03pm

re: #284 Pie-onist Overlord

AND SHE IS A JRRB CREEYATER!!!!! $2/DAY & ALL TEH DIRT U CAN EAT!

Yes, she’ll make sure she gets 99% of the value of that mine in her own pocket.

288 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:06:36pm
289 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:06:55pm
290 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:07:14pm

re: #286 klys

Grandpa was …75? I think? Very sudden, 12 hours from first symptoms to declaration - and part of that was probably delaying making the call because it was a holiday (July 4th).

Really hard on my grandmother; it wasn’t necessarily surprising when she went about a year later.

OTOH, my aunt is still alive; 84 now, just 11 yrs older than I am.

291 Weet  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:07:41pm

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Lindsey Graham believes in resorting to war only after every other option has been barely considered & perfunctorily dismissed.

— Jay Stamper (@jay_stamper) March 19, 2014

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292 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:07:43pm

re: #285 Gus

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Nice ‘Load More’ at the ‘end’.

293 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:07:52pm

DIM JIM & RUSH: WHAT WONDERFUL PATRIOTS
Can’t you just imagine them making fun of the “cripple” FDR and how he was so pwn3d by that dreamy Hitler.

294 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:08:18pm

re: #275 wrenchwench

Friend of mine survived one of those five years ago. I’ve been concerned about my aorta ever since.

The brother in law of a good friend just had one of these at age 40. The scariest part (so far) in that story is that it was missed in the initial radiography scans, and only a second look at the images by a doctor with a personal connection to the patient led to the diagnosis.

295 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:09:12pm

re: #282 Political Atheist

That’s a mere handful over twenty years of a show. Short stints big actor name. I know of one guy who was told by his agent that was what killed his hire for the show. That was Bruce Boxleitner. His reaction was kinda, “oh yeah he does that a lot’. Call it anecdotal if you wish.

Do you have a source?

296 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:09:12pm

re: #290 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, my aunt is still alive; 84 now, just 11 yrs older than I am.

Everyone handles it differently, so there’s no guarantee, but I know that after 50+ years of marriage Grandma missed Grandpa a lot.

I’m thankful she was at my wedding, even if Grandpa couldn’t be, and she made a gorgeous king-sized quilt (her first quilting project ever) for our wedding present.

One of the things I would run back into the house for to save.

297 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:12:01pm

Antivaxxers feeling some heat.

298 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:12:34pm

re: #295 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Do you have a source?

As in published about this particular incident? No, of course not. Why would there be? I only have a passing acquaintance with Bruce, we know a close friend of his well. So as I did point out above call it anecdotal if you wish.

Is this a thing that is particularly hard to accept or unlikely in your view? Can’t just wiki every little hiring thing especially where those involved are not the type to tweet their complaints.

You could look up the IMDB for Law And Order and see that ridiculously long list of actors that worked the show. Here is a link to that.

299 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:13:03pm

OK - those garbage script characters are no longer a problem.

300 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:14:12pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

OK - those garbage script characters are no longer a problem.

I started stripping the end after the closed “a” tag.

301 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:14:18pm

ANOTHER PATRIOT HEARD FROM:

302 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:15:11pm

I’ve noticed that a lot of white kids just look stupid when they try to dress in current fashions without going ghetto.

Really, the current version of preppy is nerdy. Go ghetto or wear sweats.

303 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:15:45pm

re: #300 Gus

I started stripping the end after the closed “a” tag.

No need to do that now - they’re stripped out automatically by this:

<?php
$htmltext = trim(preg_replace('~<script[^>]*>.*?</script>~is', '', $htmltext));
?>
304 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:16:10pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

No need to do that now - they’re stripped out automatically by this:

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Thanks.

305 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:16:16pm

How has the day been for everyone?

306 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:16:18pm

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

ANOTHER PATRIOT HEARD FROM:

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That really offensive. Everybody knows that Edward Snowden is the real Putins bitch.

307 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:17:03pm
308 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:17:05pm

re: #298 Political Atheist

As in published about this particular incident? No, of course not. Why would there be?

Because that’s the kind of thing that people write down and publish.

I only have a passing acquaintance with Bruce, we know a close friend of his well. So as I did point out above call it anecdotal if you wish.

It’s actually an anecdote of an anecdote.

Is this a thing that is particularly hard to accept or unlikely in your view?

Yep. Or rather, it’s hard to accept that’d happen without someone actually saying that it was happening.

Can’t just wiki every little hiring thing especially where those involved are not the type to tweet their complaints.

Sorry, you’re claiming that actors aren’t the types to talk about why they didn’t get a role?

You could look up the IMDB for Law And Order and see that ridiculously long list of actors that worked the show.

Which makes the initial claim a lot more suspect, yeah. I’m wondering how you think this works in your favor. Can you explain?

309 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:17:37pm

re: #296 klys

Everyone handles it differently, so there’s no guarantee, but I know that after 50+ years of marriage Grandma missed Grandpa a lot.

I’m thankful she was at my wedding, even if Grandpa couldn’t be, and she made a gorgeous king-sized quilt (her first quilting project ever) for our wedding present.

One of the things I would run back into the house for to save.

Oh, I would, too!

Yes, seemingly happens to many couples who have long-lived marriages. They seem to “pine away”. It was my aunt’s third husband, though she missed his company. He left her fairly well fixed for retirement, with a pension and health care, though, as he had worked at Union Carbide for many years in acctg.

310 EPR-radar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:17:53pm

re: #306 Political Atheist

That really offensive. Everybody knows that Edward Snowden is the real Putins bitch.

Or W Bush in 2008 with respect to Putin’s little adventure in Georgia.

311 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:18:35pm

Showed up again.

312 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:19:21pm

re: #302 FemNaziBitch

I’ve noticed that a lot of white kids just look stupid when they try to dress in current fashions without going ghetto.

Really, the current version of preppy is nerdy. Go ghetto or wear sweats.

I wear sweats all winter! Does that make me cool? : )

313 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:19:52pm

re: #305 FemNaziBitch

How has the day been for everyone?

It was one of those days where, when I finally get a little break to take a leak, I notice black grease on my face and wonder how long it’s been there and why nobody told me.

314 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:20:07pm

OK… now it’s fixed for reals.

315 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:20:41pm

re: #312 Justanotherhuman

I wear sweats all winter! Does that make me cool? : )

depends, do you wear Grandma Warm-up Suits with white sneakers?

316 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:21:12pm
317 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:21:33pm

Oops. Double post. Wanted…

318 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:21:45pm
319 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:22:10pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

OK… now it’s fixed for reals.

What happens if I delete the widgets from my widgets list?

320 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:22:18pm

re: #316 Gus

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An extract:

321 TedStriker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:22:26pm

re: #77 Kragar

WTFITS?!?

322 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:22:56pm

re: #315 FemNaziBitch

depends, do you wear Grandma Warm-up Suits with white sneakers?

Oh hell, no. Real sweats with black running shoes. : )

323 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:22:57pm
324 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:23:07pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

An extract:

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There’s a bunny in mah tissue box… help!

325 freetoken  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:23:12pm

Racism and creationism merge is faux patriotism:

‘League of the South’ official: Teaching evolution is ‘an act of disloyalty to America’

Michael Peroutka, a Maryland-based lawyer who was the Constitution Party’s candidate for president in 2004, says that Americans cannot believe in evolution if they truly love their country.

In 2011 video uncovered by Right Wing Watch on Thursday, the co-founder of the Institute on the Constitution asserts that “evolutionary thinking is dangerous and anti-American.”

[…]

326 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:23:38pm

re: #319 Gus

They’ll show up as a link, probably to a Twitter error page.

327 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:23:53pm

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

Oh hell, no. Real sweats with black running shoes. : )

Then you are cool.

328 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:24:11pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

They’ll show up as a link, probably to a Twitter error page.

Ah, OK. So basically leave ‘em alone.

329 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:26:03pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

Michael Moriarty and Angie Harmon, just off the top of my head.

Michael Moriarty was in some ways ‘right’ in other ways ‘left’. But what got him gone from Law & Order was his picking a fight with then-Attorney General Janet Reno over what he felt were her violations of civil liberties both as Miami-Dade DA, and later as AG. He finally made so much noise about Reno that the Department of Justice told Dick Wolf bluntly that the DoJ would cease all cooperation with Law & Order unless Moriarty was fired. Wolf needed that cooperation so, Moriarty got the boot.

330 dog philosopher  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:26:32pm

re: #302 FemNaziBitch

I’ve noticed that a lot of white kids just look stupid when they try to dress in current fashions without going ghetto.

Really, the current version of preppy is nerdy. Go ghetto or wear sweats.

i’m looking for the real radical break in fashions the way it happened 1920-1925 and 1962-1968 but it’s been a long time since anything like that

331 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:26:38pm

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

ANOTHER PATRIOT HEARD FROM:

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332 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:26:47pm
333 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:27:10pm
334 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:27:22pm
335 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:28:06pm

re: #308 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Because that’s the kind of thing that people write down and publish.

I don’t think so.

Sorry, you’re claiming that actors aren’t the types to talk about why they didn’t get a role?

Ahem. I said those actors, a far less general statement, and it was not “talk about” it was “publish”. Actually that meant Bruce Boxleitner. Who simply moved on in his acting roles without L&E. So I have no memo link for you. If you are unconvinced of what I had to say that’s fine.

Which makes the initial claim a lot more suspect, yeah. I’m wondering how you think this works in your favor. Can you explain?

Sure. A handful of rightwingers can be found hired at L&E. There were so very many over 20 years, and see how long the right wingers lasted. Seems that handful is a pretty small number when scaled to the total. And all this really means is Dick Wolf as a strong bias, rather than an absolute one. Please feel free to show me the link where people have the opposite impression of him that have auditioned or worked the show have reason to show me wrong about him.

336 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:28:13pm

HEY! Where’s all the stuff that suppossed to be at the sides of the page? Up Top, you know, blogroll, newsfeed etc …

337 palomino  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:28:15pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

Michael Moriarty and Angie Harmon, just off the top of my head.

A few others: Dennis Hopper (but he’s dead); Sylvester Stallone (just brain damaged); and Patricia Heaton (an actual class act).

338 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:28:17pm
339 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:28:58pm

Wow, this just showed up in a column in Tweetdeck for one of the hashtags I’d been following. Seriously weird stuff. It’s like they syncretized all the most woo woo, way out there elements of all the major religions and combined them into a single cult that revolves around their man-in-the-moon savior who’s a combination of the (Jewish) Messiah, Jesus, the Mahdi, etc. Good grief. O_O

340 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:29:34pm

I see Gus and Charles are baiting the Dudebros and Wingnuts on Twitter tonight.

341 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:30:18pm

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

I see Gus and Charles are baiting the Dudebros and Wingnuts on Twitter tonight.

Not tonight. Last night for a bit.

342 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:30:37pm

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

I see Gus and Charles are baiting the Dudebros and Wingnuts on Twitter tonight.

It’s like chumming a koi pond with bread crumbs.

343 dog philosopher  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:30:48pm

re: #339 CuriousLurker

Wow, just showed up in a column in Tweetdeck for one of the hashtags I’d been following. Seriously weird stuff. It’s like they syncretized all the most woo woo, way out there elements of all the major religions and combined them into a single cult that revolves around their man-in-the-moon savior who’s a combination of the (Jewish) Messiah, Jesus, the Mahdi, etc. Good grief. O_O

i rather follow a spender than a savior

more handouts

344 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:31:19pm

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

Michael Moriarty was in some ways ‘right’ in other ways ‘left’. But what got him gone from Law & Order was his picking a fight with then-Attorney General Janet Reno over what he felt were her violations of civil liberties both as Miami-Dade DA, and later as AG. He finally made so much noise about Reno that the Department of Justice told Dick Wolf bluntly that the DoJ would cease all cooperation with Law & Order unless Moriarty was fired. Wolf needed that cooperation so, Moriarty got the boot.

Some pretty interesting stuff about Moriarty here:

cinemaretro.com

345 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:32:03pm

Do I want to know what Tweetdeck is?

I just found out today that I have a cc that I can just wave at the cash register and it works.

346 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:32:07pm
347 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:32:09pm

re: #334 Gus

Be warned: Next time you get cranky on Twitter I’m gonna make a custom timeline of all your gripes for posterity. // lol

348 freetoken  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:32:10pm

re: #342 darthstar

It’s like chumming a koi pond with bread crumbs.

I was about to write “it’s like putting peanut butter on the floor for the mice”, but I think it’s the same idea.

349 palomino  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:32:48pm

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

ANOTHER PATRIOT HEARD FROM:

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If Obama is Putin’s bitch, then so was W.

For that matter, Reagan was the bitch of whoever the hell bombed our base in Beirut in 1983.

Funny thing is, according to the fanatics who still can’t accept his two election wins, Obama is also a “military tyrant” (but only in the case of Libya, Afghanistan, use of drones, and surveillance.)

I guess he’s a bitch some days of the week and Hitler on other days.

350 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:33:08pm

Wow had no idea about Moriarty. Most of the L&O I watched was with Waterston as McCoy who I feel was a better character. I really was missing Jerry Orbach as Briscoe at the end. He was probably my favorite character on the entire series.

351 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:33:33pm

re: #347 CuriousLurker

Be warned: Next time you get cranky on Twitter I’m gonna make a custom timeline of all your gripes for posterity. // lol

Who? Me? :P

352 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:33:39pm
353 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:34:13pm
354 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:34:18pm

CNN can now use video of the P-8 aircraft. They just have to crop it from Rachel’s broadcast.

355 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:01pm
356 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:04pm

re: #345 FemNaziBitch

Do I want to know what Tweetdeck is?

I just found out today that I have a cc that I can just wave at the cash register and it works.

You’re not using it?? It’s like the best thing since sliced bread.

about.twitter.com

357 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:06pm

re: #347 CuriousLurker

Be warned: Next time you get cranky on Twitter I’m gonna make a custom timeline of all your gripes for posterity. // lol

This is why God invented custom timelines.

358 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:08pm

re: #349 palomino

If Obama is Putin’s bitch, then so was W.

For that matter, Reagan was the bitch of whoever the hell bombed our base in Beirut in 1983.

Funny thing is, according to the fanatics who still can’t accept his two election wins, Obama is also a “military tyrant” (but only in the case of Libya, Afghanistan, use of drones, and surveillance.)

I guess he’s a bitch some days of the week and Hitler on other days.

What amuses me is they claim Obama is soft for not declaring war on Russia while ignoring the fanboy/girl love for Putin that exists in their own camp and that the Bush administration didn’t exactly declare war on Putin when South Ossetia was invaded either. This whole idea of Obama as a wimp is delusional anyhow. This friend of my father’s was talking about Putin doesn’t respect Obama yada yada. I wasn’t present but if I had been, I would have said there’s a 6’6 dead Saudi guy in the bottom of the Arabian sea that may disagree. He also sent a moronic photoshop of Obama’s head on a female figure skater and Putin’s on a male. Nice guy outside of politics but it’s people like this that are wrong with the political right in this country. Same guy also thinks Putin will nuke us.

359 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:12pm

re: #335 Political Atheist

I don’t think so.

Why not? I’ve read stories from actors talking about why they didn’t get roles, why is this a weird idea to you?

Ahem. I said those actors, a far less general statement, and it was not “talk about” it was “publish”. Actually that meant Bruce Boxleitner. Who simply moved on in his acting roles without L&E. So I have no memo link for you. If you are unconvinced of what I had to say that’s fine.

I’m confused by why you would think anyone would be convinced by “A guy I know says this other guy said it”.

I wouldn’t ever expect someone to treat that as credible, and we shouldn’t treat that sort of thing as credible. You really think that if I tell you something that someone else said about what someone else said that you should treat that as credible?

Sure. A handful of rightwingers can be found hired at L&E. There were so very many over 20 years, and see how long the right wingers lasted. Seems that handful is a pretty small number when scaled to the total. And all this really means is Dick Wolf as a strong bias, rather than an absolute one. Please feel free to show me the link where people have the opposite impression of him that have auditioned or worked the show have reason to show me wrong about him.

Please continue to follow my posts on statistics, because you are fucking them up right now. In order to answer the question using these statistics, you’d first have to know the proportion of right-wing vs. left-wing people in the auditions, know who else didn’t get the roles, etc. You have none of that.

You don’t even have, I don’t think, a list of which actors on Law and Order were conservatives. Do you? You mentioned there’s a ton of people, have you actually counted the conservatives?

360 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:17pm
361 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:36:32pm

re: #355 FemNaziBitch

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Ouch. Good one.

362 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:37:04pm
363 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:38:21pm

Oh drats, less than a minute.

364 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:38:33pm
365 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:38:56pm

I went the other route, making me the victor.

366 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:39:38pm

No pie this week, I have started Spring Cleaning.

But there will be cupcakes.

367 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:40:05pm

3 in 2 minutes.

368 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:40:25pm
369 BongCrodny  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:40:50pm

re: #144 Justanotherhuman

Dick Wolf hired Fred Thompson in a recurring role for a short period. He’s the most prominent one I can remember.

Fred Thompson appeared in 116 episodes from 2002-2007. Not really a short period by most TV series’ lives, but maybe in Law & Order years. :-)

Did he leave because he was “let go,” or did he choose to leave because he ran for President in 2008?

370 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:41:20pm

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

3 in 2 minutes.

Those are fast cupcakes.

371 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:41:24pm
372 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:42:39pm

re: #298 Political Atheist

Is this a thing that is particularly hard to accept or unlikely in your view? Can’t just wiki every little hiring thing especially where those involved are not the type to tweet their complaints.

Um, ok. So you’re saying Boxleitner is kind of a whiney gossip in private, ascribing the loss of a role to his own personal politics. That’s great and all, but not very instructive when pitted against Wolf’s actual history. L&O probably has the most spin offs in TV history. The guy dry humped that franchise’s bones until they crackled into dust, and then dry humped the dust. Considering the people he did hire, from the very beginning, and cast to lead roles you want me to believe he had some long running policy against employing conservative talent out of pure spite.

Anyway the charge itself is kind of a trope at this point, lots of conservative actors have made it, from Janine Turner to John Voigt. It’s almost the go to excuse for a flagging career. The whole left wing / liberal control of Hollywood mindset is also, dare I mention it, dangerously related to and intertwined with conspiracies about Jewish control of same.

You could look up the IMDB for Law And Order and see that ridiculously long list of actors that worked the show. Here is a link to that.

That’s great, how many of them are Democrats? Seems like most people in the public eye just keep their politics private, which is probably wise.

373 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:42:40pm

re: #371 FemNaziBitch

That’s funny.

374 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:42:59pm

re: #356 CuriousLurker

You’re not using it?? It’s like the best thing since sliced bread.

about.twitter.com

Holy …

do I want it to show desktop notifications?

What even does that mean?

375 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:43:41pm

re: #361 CuriousLurker

Ouch. Good one.

Yeah, I thought it was a good one.

Can’t believe no one did it until now.

376 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:45:08pm

re: #359 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You are taking a very small part of my point to BD and a small aside as worthy of a full on statistical study. That approach is not worth my time for a single skeptic such as yourself this afternoon. This is a conversation not a scientific or academic paper. One should not confuse the appropriate standards.

377 dog philosopher  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:46:28pm

re: #370 wrenchwench

Those are fast cupcakes.

that’s what sh

oh nevermind…

378 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:46:44pm

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Wow had no idea about Moriarty. Most of the L&O I watched was with Waterston as McCoy who I feel was a better character. I really was missing Jerry Orbach as Briscoe at the end. He was probably my favorite character on the entire series.

I loved Jerry Orbach. But I had a shallow crush on Chris Noth when I first started watching back in the early 90s, then started looking at the others. I admit, I liked Moriarty’s character. I couldn’t figure out all the hype over Mariska Hargitay as I didn’t think her character had as much depth as some of the other women, esp in SVU (Michelle Hurd comes to mind). Yes, I watched them all. : )

379 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:46:46pm

Later, lizards.

380 darthstar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:46:54pm

re: #356 CuriousLurker

You’re not using it?? It’s like the best thing since sliced bread.

about.twitter.com

I like the feature of having things scroll out of view on twitter…I don’t want to start tracking topics (even trending ones) more than clicking on my interactions requires.

381 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:47:33pm

I have a collection of Babushka dolls (Matrioshka) that I bought when I visited Russia in 2007. Here is how some of them are arranged:

382 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:10pm

re: #313 wrenchwench

It was one of those days where, when I finally get a little break to take a leak, I notice black grease on my face and wonder how long it’s been there and why nobody told me.

Women are glad you look silly. Men are afraid it’s a new fashion.

383 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:14pm

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

Holy …

do I want it to show desktop notifications?

What even does that mean?

You can control the notifications. Just try it for a week or so—it’s not like you can’t just uninstall it if you decide it’s not for you. Personally, I love it. If it went away, I’d probably stop using Twitter altogether unless someone came up with a comparable desktop application.

There are other clients I like better for work-related stuff and got moblie devices, but Tweetdeck is hands-down my overall favorite.

384 Jack Burton  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:30pm

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

One of these things is not like the other…

385 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:34pm

re: #376 Political Atheist

You are taking a very small part of my point to BD and a small aside as worthy of a full on statistical study.

I’m saying you shouldn’t repeat rumors of rumors without the slightest hint of actual statistical backing.

That approach is not worth my time for a single skeptic such as yourself this afternoon. This is a conversation not a scientific or academic paper. One should not confuse the appropriate standards.

It’s just as useless in a conversation, though. It’s just not worthwhile to say “Hey, this other guy said that this other guy said this.” Even if that other guy did say it, it’s then a case of “Well, is that other guy credible?”

Even when you’re just having an ordinary conversation, you shouldn’t do it, especially when it’s an accusation of unprofessionalism against someone. Just spreading around rumors doesn’t do anyone any good, and it makes you look bad too.

386 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:40pm

re: #369 BongCrodny

Fred Thompson appeared in 116 episodes from 2002-2007. Not really a short period by most TV series’ lives, but maybe in Law & Order years. :-)

Did he leave because he was “let go,” or did he choose to leave because he ran for President in 2008?

No kidding? That many? I missed a lot of episodes, then. : ) He may have quit to run, then.

387 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:45pm

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

I have a collection of Babushka dolls (Matrioshka) that I bought when I visited Russia in 2007. Here is how some of them are arranged:
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388 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:48:50pm

re: #372 goddamnedfrank

and then dry humped the dust.

With dust, I don’t thinking there’s any other humping option available.

389 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:49:06pm

re: #387 Gus

The looks on their faces is freaking perfect.

390 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:49:20pm

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Wow had no idea about Moriarty. Most of the L&O I watched was with Waterston as McCoy who I feel was a better character. I really was missing Jerry Orbach as Briscoe at the end. He was probably my favorite character on the entire series.

Jerry Orbach’s Detective Lenny Briscoe is still the fan favorite character of the entire Law & Order franchise, and Jerry Orbach was the most beloved actor on the show in the eyes of the crew and the rest of the cast.

391 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:50:04pm

re: #380 darthstar

I like the feature of having things scroll out of view on twitter…I don’t want to start tracking topics (even trending ones) more than clicking on my interactions requires.

Yeah, that’s one of my favorite things about it.

392 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:50:59pm

re: #383 CuriousLurker

You can control the notifications. Just try it for a week or so—it’s not like you can’t just uninstall it if you decide it’s not for you. Personally, I love it. If it went away, I’d probably stop using Twitter altogether unless someone came up with a comparable desktop application.

There are other clients I like better for work-related stuff and got moblie devices, but Tweetdeck is hands-down my overall favorite.

I’m not sure, I don’t like the fast scroll. I don’t have that much interaction.

393 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:51:13pm

re: #385 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’s just as useless in a conversation, though. It’s just not worthwhile to say “Hey, this other guy said that this other guy said this.” Even if that other guy did say it, it’s then a case of “Well, is that other guy credible?”

I call it the Ferris Bueller / 31 Flavors Fallacy.

394 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:51:26pm

re: #369 BongCrodny

Did he leave because he was “let go,” or did he choose to leave because he ran for President in 2008?

Is that what he was doing in 2008? Running for president? Could have fooled me!

395 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:52:27pm

CNN’s first Tweet appropriately enough…

396 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:52:33pm

re: #389 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The looks on their faces is freaking perfect.

The cat with her head turned: “As soon as the human takes these things off we shred her sleeves like confetti! Got it?”

Other Cat: “I got it. We’ll show her who runs this house!”

397 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:53:00pm
398 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:53:34pm

re: #393 goddamnedfrank

I call it the Ferris Bueller / 31 Flavors Fallacy.

Is the Willis Tower involved in that one?

399 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:54:26pm
400 palomino  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:54:38pm

re: #397 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

And with 11 days left, that number will likely increase by at least a few hundred thousand. Like everything else in life (tax returns anyone?) many people wait til the last minute.

401 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:54:57pm

This can’t be right, where is the BENGHAZI!!!!!! lobe?

402 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:55:03pm
403 klys  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:55:18pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

Expertise is overrated. I mean, that’s why he just asks random folks on the street for medical advice, right?

404 gwangung  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:55:49pm

re: #376 Political Atheist

You are taking a very small part of my point to BD and a small aside as worthy of a full on statistical study. That approach is not worth my time for a single skeptic such as yourself this afternoon. This is a conversation not a scientific or academic paper. One should not confuse the appropriate standards.

Aw, all you civilians are so darn cute when you try to explain show business.

Heh.

405 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:56:14pm
406 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:56:42pm

re: #393 goddamnedfrank

I call it the Ferris Bueller / 31 Flavors Fallacy.

It most annoys me when it happens at workplaces. There tends to be two forms of it.

1) A guy claims that Bigwig only likes projects with X in them, like, only ones that have an animal, or only things that are set outside the US. Sometimes it’s even ‘true’ if you look at what projects that guy approves, but it’s still not actually true, it’s just a coincidence. Mostly it’s just a misinterpretation of something the guy said sometime, or selection bias.

2) A guy claims that person X is poison to any project he’s assigned to and they all get shitcanned. This is the most harmful one, because it becomes self- fulfilling. Projects get cancelled. If someone is on two projects in a row that get cancelled, then suddenly they’ve got this aura of failure around them, and people start either just blaming them directly or making up reasons, (sometimes that Bigwig doesn’t like X, and will cancel any project he’s on.) Again, this is usually just selection bias, but people have their careers ruined because of stuff like this.

I shocked everyone at one company when I just popped by the VP’s office and said, “Hey, people say you only like products with animals in them, is that true?” And he said, “No, I’ve been wondering why every project has animals in it. Who told you that?” And nobody was the originator, these things often just spring up out of nowhere apparently and then just get rumored around.

Again, I really think discourse in general would be improved if people had (and employed) a firm grasp of statistics.

407 jaunte  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:57:03pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

Thank goodness _somebody_ is sticking up for the rights of non-experts to weigh in on whatever the fuck.

FREEEDom!!!!

408 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:57:13pm

HOLY SHIT WHAT A PSYCHOPATH

409 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:57:24pm

re: #392 FemNaziBitch

I’m not sure, I don’t like the fast scroll. I don’t have that much interaction.

Ah, I see, well then maybe it’s not for you. I’m following 600+ and have about 300 followers—which is nothing compared to like Charles’ 8K followers—but it’s enough to make Twitter a PITA for me without it.

410 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:57:36pm
411 palomino  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:57:59pm

re: #390 Dark_Falcon

Jerry Orbach’s Detective Lenny Briscoe is still the fan favorite character of the entire Law & Order franchise, and Jerry Orbach was the most beloved actor on the show in the eyes of the crew and the rest of the cast.

One of his more memorable, albeit small, roles was in an underrated movie called Prince of the City. Made in 1981, it was about corrupt NYC narc officers, one of which was played by “Lenny”, as I’ll always think of him.

412 Gus  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:58:20pm

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

HOLY SHIT WHAT A PSYCHOPATH

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413 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:58:39pm

re: #402 Gus

[Embedded content]

Wow, that one’s so fancy I didn’t even realize what it was at first.

414 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 6:58:49pm

re: #409 CuriousLurker

Ah, I see, well then maybe it’s not for you. I’m following 600+ and have about 300 followers—which is nothing compared to like Charles’ 8K followers—but it’s enough to make Twitter a PITA for me without it.

I don’t even look at my own Time Line, I follow #UniteBlue and the Derp on #tcot, and my Derp and Win lists.

415 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:00:38pm
416 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:01:01pm

re: #410 Gus

[Embedded content]

If she ever had to argument an actual point with Netanyahu he’d win by default, as her brain would seize up when exposed to too much reality.

417 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:02:36pm

re: #409 CuriousLurker

Ah, I see, well then maybe it’s not for you. I’m following 600+ and have about 300 followers—which is nothing compared to like Charles’ 8K followers—but it’s enough to make Twitter a PITA for me without it.

I have 300+ followers and I”m following 800+, but I don’t expect to read everything. Much is duplicated from one organization or another or on facebook.

418 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:03:19pm

re: #414 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t even look at my own Time Line, I follow #UniteBlue and the Derp on #tcot, and my Derp and Win lists.

I do that sometimes with stuff that is trending —mostly so I can learn what the heck it is.

419 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:03:47pm

re: #396 Dark_Falcon

The cat with her head turned: “As soon as the human takes these things off we shred her sleeves like confetti! Got it?”

Other Cat: “I got it. We’ll show her who runs this house!”

I’ve gotta admit I was wondering HTF they got the cats to allow them to put those on, especially over their ears and tying it close to their necks? NO WAY my cats would’ve allowed that (or if I’d somehow managed to accomplish it, everything would’ve been blood-spattered).

420 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:08:08pm

re: #416 Dark_Falcon

If she ever had to argument an actual point with Netanyahu he’d win by default, as her brain would seize up when exposed to too much reality.

I wonder if Netanyahu feels ashamed of his role in fomenting hatred against Rabin. He really should.

Rallies, organized partially by Likud, became increasingly extreme in tone. Likud leader (and future Prime Minister) Benjamin Netanyahu accused Rabin’s government of being “removed from Jewish tradition … and Jewish values.” Netanyahu addressed protesters of the Oslo movement at rallies where posters portrayed Rabin in a Nazi SS uniform or being the target in the cross-hairs of a sniper.[2] Rabin accused Netanyahu of provoking violence, a charge which Netanyahu strenuously denied.

It says something about the absolute dearth of leadership options on the Israeli right that Netanyahu was ever allowed to again take part in national politics. In pretty much any other country that kind of stunt would get a dude declared persona non grata forever.

421 TedStriker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:08:23pm

re: #258 Jack Burton

Something that might make Art Bell or Alex Jones only blush a little.

Say what you will, but, IMNSHO, Art Bell doesn’t really belong in the same category as Jones.

While Art may have believed some of the stuff his guests talked about, he always came off as jovial and as enthralled by some of his guests as the audience was; to me, he was a great radio host and entertainer.

Jones is just filled with CTs and bile.

422 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:09:21pm

There was a GSD puppy at the pet shop at the mall tonite.

She was perfect. and I left her there.

:(

423 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:09:50pm

re: #418 FemNaziBitch

I do that sometimes with stuff that is trending —mostly so I can learn what the heck it is.

When stuff is trending, that’s when all the spambots swarm in and a hashtag becomes unreadable.

I also don’t see all the shit that’s on tcot because I have blocked so many assholes.

424 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:10:12pm

re: #417 FemNaziBitch

I have 300+ followers and I”m following 800+, but I don’t expect to read everything. Much is duplicated from one organization or another or on facebook.

Oh, okay. I just quickly looked at the numbers in your Twitter profile as linked in your LGF profile, which isn’t the right one. You might want to correct that as it goes to www.twitter.com/ggt, which an account belonging to some guy in Mexico who hasn’t tweeted for nearly 3 years.

425 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:11:35pm

re: #419 CuriousLurker

I’ve gotta admit I was wondering HTF they got the cats to allow them to put those on, especially over their ears and tying it close to their necks? NO WAY my cats would’ve allowed that (or if I’d somehow managed to accomplish it, everything would’ve been blood-spattered).

Yea… One of my ‘meezer cats would tolerate it pretty well, but that’s because any kind of attention is fine with him. My female one on the other hand… well lets just say it wouldn’t be a mistake I’d make twice.

RBS

426 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:13:03pm

re: #424 CuriousLurker

Oh, okay. I just quickly looked at the numbers in your Twitter profile as linked in your LGF profile, which isn’t the right one. You might want to correct that as it goes to www.twitter.com/ggt, which an account belonging to some guy in Mexico who hasn’t tweeted for nearly 3 years.

try it now

427 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:14:28pm

Freepers are having Vladgasms.

428 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:14:38pm

re: #425 RealityBasedSteve

Yea… One of my ‘meezer cats would tolerate it pretty well, but that’s because any kind of attention is fine with him. My female one on the other hand… well lets just say it wouldn’t be a mistake I’d make twice.

RBS

Yeah, both of mine will allow me to touch them (almost) anywhere, but approach them with a strange object and try to attach it to them? Uh-uh, not happening.

429 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:15:22pm

re: #426 FemNaziBitch

try it now

It’s correct now.

430 Kragar  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:16:18pm

re: #427 Pie-onist Overlord

Freepers are having Vladgasms.

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431 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:16:29pm

re: #429 CuriousLurker

It’s correct now.

I don’t know what I would do without you.

Now, I need another lesson on how to put a non-youtube video in a Post.

but not tonite.

Thanks!

432 TedStriker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:16:51pm

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Wow had no idea about Moriarty. Most of the L&O I watched was with Waterston as McCoy who I feel was a better character. I really was missing Jerry Orbach as Briscoe at the end. He was probably my favorite character on the entire series.

Say what you will about the original L&O, but Wolf picked good main cast members consistently throughout the entire series.

Moriarty, Sorvino, Noth, Orbach, Watterson, and Merkerson, among others…I like(d) their characters a lot

433 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:17:38pm

re: #431 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know what I would do without you.

Now, I need another lesson on how to put a non-youtube video in a Post.

but not tonite.

Thanks!

Whenever you’re ready, let me know.

Anyhoo, new thread so I’m out for the night. Later, lizards.

434 chadu  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:37:15pm

re: #139 Political Atheist

I happen to be aware of Bruce Boxleitner missing out on a good gig over this. Too bad he’s a good guy caught in a tough moment for most actors. You don’t see him out there on Fox like Jon Voight shilling for the extreme view.

I’ve heard/read that the lunchtable political discussions on the sets of B5 were EPIC.

435 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 9:35:22pm

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Wow had no idea about Moriarty. Most of the L&O I watched was with Waterston as McCoy who I feel was a better character. I really was missing Jerry Orbach as Briscoe at the end. He was probably my favorite character on the entire series.

Jerry Orbach was terrific as Briscoe. He also did Broadway, and was in the original cast of The Fantasticks. He could sing, too!

And Patrick Swayze told him he couldn’t put Baby in a corner.

436 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 21, 2014 8:16:11am

re: #385 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Rumros? Perhaps. Also the statements of certain people involved among friends. Sorry TMZ & Twitter must have missed this incident.

Might you be aware of the kerfuffle at a big Hollywood guild that resulted in a resolution to not discriminate on a political basis? This after a few conservatives reacted to a power player admitting on tape that he favors that accusation? See “Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors”. Hollywood reporter

Additionally, some with knowledge of the situation told The Hollywood Reporter on Friday that efforts are underway to encourage that similar steps be taken by the writers’, directors’ and producers’ guilds and the TV and motion picture Academies.
“The crusade is on,” one insider said.
The Caucus, founded in 1977 by Norman Lear, Aaron Spelling and others to promote diversity and free speech in television, was under pressure after a couple of its right-leaning members quit in disgust after hearing some of the online tapes that were released by Ben Shapiro, author of the new book, Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV.
Lionel Chetwynd (Ike: Countdown to D-Day, DC 9/11: Time of Crisis) and Norman Powell (24, The Big Valley), who quit a month ago, told THR they’d return in light of the resolution.
“It’s a real step forward in the relevance of the Caucus,” Powell said. “I’m happy to rejoin, assuming they want me to. And I’m assuming they do, or they wouldn’t have done this.”

Of course those that choose to discriminate on a foolish basis are not often open about their bad habits. So when the people involved speak to a thing in among friends, it’s not my inclination to presume them wrong or deceitful. It’s my inclination to think they might well be right and are speaking honestly. Which is why is used certain disclaimers above. As in “anecdotal” etc. There are many true things that don’t wind up at a sight we would agree is reliable on the internet.

I have a modicum of respect for the views of those involved. That can of course have it’s trade offs. I actually am looking forward to your further Pages on stats, and I expect I will learn a few things. What I may have learned already is when I need to take that approach and when I do not.

437 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Fri, Mar 21, 2014 1:14:44pm

re: #436 Political Atheist

Rumros? Perhaps. Also the statements of certain people involved among friends. Sorry TMZ & Twitter must have missed this incident.

Yeah, that’s what a rumor is.

Might you be aware of the kerfuffle at a big Hollywood guild that resulted in a resolution to not discriminate on a political basis? This after a few conservatives reacted to a power player admitting on tape that he favors that accusation? See “Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors”. Hollywood reporter

…and?

Of course those that choose to discriminate on a foolish basis are not often open about their bad habits. So when the people involved speak to a thing in among friends, it’s not my inclination to presume them wrong or deceitful. It’s my inclination to think they might well be right and are speaking honestly. Which is why is used certain disclaimers above. As in “anecdotal” etc. There are many true things that don’t wind up at a sight we would agree is reliable on the internet.

If you have to use those disclaimers, you shouldn’t be saying it at all.

I have a modicum of respect for the views of those involved. That can of course have it’s trade offs. I actually am looking forward to your further Pages on stats, and I expect I will learn a few things. What I may have learned already is when I need to take that approach and when I do not.

You should always take that approach, you should always hold yourself to a better standard, you shouldn’t ever just credulously pass along rumors.


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