1 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 1, 2014 7:31:01am

A very Colbert-like response as Colbert deals with Colbert to handle the not-Colbert being mistaken for Colbert for a 72-hour period.
(Just like Jesus)

2 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 7:36:36am

Brilliant videos, of course!

3 Dr. Matt  Apr 1, 2014 7:38:08am

The cringe worthy HuffPost Live interview with Suey Park: live.huffingtonpost.com

*Found the youtube version*

Youtube Video

4 Dr. Matt  Apr 1, 2014 7:42:23am

If your resume/CV lists “Twitter activist” as your current position, you’re basically stating you have no real job skills.

5 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 7:44:12am
6 Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2014 7:44:32am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

If your resume/CV lists “Twitter activist” as your current position, you’re basically stating you have no real job skills.

But at least you’re succinct.

7 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 7:47:29am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

The cringe worthy HuffPost Live interview with Suey Park: live.huffingtonpost.com

And who the fuck gives an interview from (obviously) inside her bedroom?

Who the hell is this person, anyway, who talks like a 5 yr old?

Excellent piece from John Avarosis about this brouhaha.

americablog.com

“We’ve used that argument from time to time in the gay community as well. And it’s often accurate, but not always. Just because I’m gay, doesn’t mean I’m always right. Sometimes, gay people have a unique life-experience which lends itself to spotting homophobia that straight people might not notice. Other times, our unique experience makes us hypersensitive, and we blow up about something unjustly. The problem with the change-dot-orgafication of the Internet is that now “everyone’s an activist.” And activism, like any other skill in life, takes a certain amount of, well, skill. And just because you have the power to blow things up doesn’t mean you have the wisdom to wield it well. Good activists are usually right about their targets. The masses, less so.

“The Internet has led to some amazing citizen engagement. But it’s also empowered a lot of crazy. It gives crazy a home where it can meet like-minded crazy, and then make crazy babies.

“While it’s certainly possible that, once you find a large number of people who agree with you, this might prove that your cause is just. It also might simply mean you’ve joined a cult.”

8 Dr. Matt  Apr 1, 2014 7:48:40am

re: #7 Justanotherhuman

And who the fuck gives an interview from (obviously) inside her bedroom?

Who the hell is this person, anyway, who talks like a 5 yr old?

A “twitter activist”. She probably has cheeto stains on the front of her slacks.

9 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 7:50:51am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

re: #7 Justanotherhuman

As I’ve said before a few days ago in regards to similar things: SJWs are why we can’t have nice things.

The internet is pretty awesome in general. But it has also allowed a whole lot of bad crazy to flourish by giving people the means with which to find other loons that think just like them and won’t ever challenge what they say.

10 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 7:53:16am

re: #9 GunstarGreen

As I’ve said before a few days ago in regards to similar things: SJWs are why we can’t have nice things.

The internet is pretty awesome in general. But it has also allowed a whole lot of bad crazy to flourish by giving people the means with which to find other loons that think just like them and won’t ever challenge what they say.

SJW = ‘Social justice Warrior’, correct?

11 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 7:53:57am

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

SJW = ‘Social justice Warrior’, correct?

Correct.

See synonyms at: “Twitter Activist”, “Tumblr Activist”

12 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 7:54:59am

I’m going to quote myself from the previous thread since it goes to the new one.

——

Morning! Happy Fool’s Day. Watch where you step!

I see there seems to be some confusion over Colbert’s outrage from late last week. This whole thing is a great example of the ‘net out of control.

For those still confused a couple of links to put things in context. The first one is the Washington “Redskins” NFL site with the announcement that kicked the whole mess off. The second site has the original Colbert show’s sports report video where he cracked on the Washington team and used the “slur” that got tweeted after the show and really got the shit storm going.

Redskins Launch Washington Redskins Original Americans Foundation

A Lot Of People Are Upset Over The Colbert Report’s ‘Ching Chong Ding Dong’ Joke

Everyone knows or should know the NFL and team owner Dan Snyder have been back and forth over him changing the name of the team. To try to tamp down the outrage over the name Snyder started a foundation and in his own way of completely missing the point named the foundation with the offending name in it. Duh! DerppyDo to the extreme.

Colbert went from there. The outrage then followed. Hopefully with some background people will understand where Colbert was coming from.

Sorry if I am going over ground already gone over, but I saw in this thread where it might not be too clear what got the ball rolling. And I must admit…I cringed big time when I saw Colbert being compared to Limbaugh.

13 lawhawk  Apr 1, 2014 7:54:59am

re: #5 Lidane

It’s kind of tough to call the report exhaustive when you don’t interview any of the principals (Wildstein, Baroni, Sampson, Stepien, Kelly), let alone anyone at the Port Authority who might have shed light on any and all aspects of the controversy, including Pat Foye.

Calling the report a whitewash does a disservice to the term whitewash.

Its primary purpose was to find a way to claim Christie didn’t know what his underlings were doing. The only way to achieve that was to avoid asking or be unable to ask anyone who remotely knew what was going on.

14 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 1, 2014 7:55:06am

re: #11 GunstarGreen

Correct.

See synonyms at: “Twitter Activist”, “Tumblr Activist”

I thought it was “Steve Jobs Worshiper”

15 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 7:56:11am
16 Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2014 7:56:38am

For those who don’t want to chew through the gristle, it’s basically just a new cover slapped onto the 2014 budget, with the numbers moved around to account for projected slower growth, and filled to the brim with Ryan’s temper tantrums.

17 missliberties  Apr 1, 2014 7:58:53am

Stephen Colbert conservative hero!

Just like Jesus he was canceled for three days. He will now become an iconic figure and a legend in history. That’s one for the record books.

18 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 8:04:01am

re: #11 GunstarGreen

Correct.

See synonyms at: “Twitter Activist”, “Tumblr Activist”

Those aren’t synonyms as ‘Twitter Activist’ and ‘Tumblr Activist’ are politically neutral terms, while ‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

What would the right-of-center version of ‘Social justice Warrior’ be?

19 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 8:29:43am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

I’m curious why you believe this. Why should social justice only be something on the left?

20 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 8:32:07am

re: #19 Lidane

I’m curious why you believe this. Why should social justice only be something on the left?

It’s a term used by the left but very seldom the right, hence my point. I’m not going to discuss the ‘why’ behind uses of terminology.

21 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 8:32:26am

#LGFDown if we go down again.

23 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 8:32:59am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Those aren’t synonyms as ‘Twitter Activist’ and ‘Tumblr Activist’ are politically neutral terms, while ‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

What would the right-of-center version of ‘Social justice Warrior’ be?

GUN OWNIN’ FREE MARKETIN’ OBAMA HATIN’ PATRIOT!!!!!!

24 klys  Apr 1, 2014 8:33:08am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Those aren’t synonyms as ‘Twitter Activist’ and ‘Tumblr Activist’ are politically neutral terms, while ‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

What would the right-of-center version of ‘Social justice Warrior’ be?

A Men’s Rights Activist.

half /

25 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 8:34:04am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Those aren’t synonyms as ‘Twitter Activist’ and ‘Tumblr Activist’ are politically neutral terms, while ‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

What would the right-of-center version of ‘Social justice Warrior’ be?

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Those aren’t synonyms as ‘Twitter Activist’ and ‘Tumblr Activist’ are politically neutral terms, while ‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

What would the right-of-center version of ‘Social justice Warrior’ be?

If a left-wing SJW is one that complains about the oppression of the remarkably-niche-social-outcast-group-du-jour, a right-wing SJW is one that complains about the oppression of mainstream christians/conservatives.

The common thread being “The world doesn’t bend over backwards specifically to cater to me and my particular sensibilities, oppreshun!”

Clarification: This is not to say that there is no such thing as discrimination or oppression, that would be absurd. Of course there is. I’m talking in the context of taking things to absurd extremes, like this whole Colbert kerfluffle or, on the other side of the spectrum, that old “secular humanists out to convert us all into gay atheists!” chestnut.

26 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 8:34:45am

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

It’s a term used by the left but very seldom the right, hence my point. I’m not going to discuss the ‘why’ behind uses of terminology.

The Catholic Church has an entire doctrine of Social Justice. They’re hardly a bastion of liberalism. You know that, right?

27 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 8:36:58am

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

It’s a term used by the left but very seldom the right, hence my point. I’m not going to discuss the ‘why’ behind uses of terminology.

Although the term is very rarely used for right wing or conservative groups I guess you could include Bill Donahue and Brian Fischer as right wing “social justice” activists. The methods of threatening jobs, boycotts, advertiser intimidation, etc for “offensive” speech or ideas are the same gimmick used by lefty activists.

28 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2014 8:37:37am

re: #21 Pie-onist Overlord

#LGFDown if we go down again.

How long were we out for last night?

29 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 8:37:56am

Social Justice is something you do hear mostly on the left but it’s mostly from a Catholic pov as already said. And it for some weird reason reminds Glenn Beck of Nazism.

30 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 8:38:20am

re: #9 GunstarGreen

As I’ve said before a few days ago in regards to similar things: SJWs are why we can’t have nice things.

The internet is pretty awesome in general. But it has also allowed a whole lot of bad crazy to flourish by giving people the means with which to find other loons that think just like them and won’t ever challenge what they say.

Yep, In the old days old “Crazy Mr. Brown” would hang around the park or the bar and make his crazy talk, and was ignored. If he was really effective he put out a 4 page blue spirit duplicated news letter to a dozen people.

Now he’s Jim Hoff, and runs Gateway Pundit.

RBS

31 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2014 8:38:45am

I think social justice can be applied to both right wing and left wing groups, but the interpretation of the term changes depending on which side you’re dealing with.

32 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 1, 2014 8:40:15am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Those aren’t synonyms as ‘Twitter Activist’ and ‘Tumblr Activist’ are politically neutral terms, while ‘Social Justice Warrior’ strongly suggests a person on the left side of the political spectrum.

What would the right-of-center version of ‘Social justice Warrior’ be?

Fox News Host

33 iossarian  Apr 1, 2014 8:40:15am

I don’t think it’s all that productive to make fun of Suey Park or to mock her views as being “stupid”. I mean, I happen to think that she’s wrong, but I think the HuffPo guy above was being provocative for the sake of a viral video, which is sad.

The flip side of this is that Suey Park should also think about the fact that the people who agree that her views should not be dismissed, and that her voice should be heard and taken seriously (even in disagreement) tend to be liberals (white or otherwise).

34 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 8:41:29am

re: #32 Iwouldprefernotto

Fox News Host

Snicker standing up for the rights of the little billionaire against the big mean poor people trying to get their fair share.

35 jonhendry  Apr 1, 2014 8:41:58am

I loved the “Michelle Malkin Memorial Unpaid Internment Program” line, along with the mention of her book.

BURN.

36 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 8:42:36am

re: #26 Lidane

re: #26 Lidane

Point taken.

37 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 8:42:47am

re: #30 RealityBasedSteve

Yep, In the old days old “Crazy Mr. Brown” would hang around the park or the bar and make his crazy talk, and was ignored. If he was really effective he put out a 4 page blue spirit duplicated new letter to a dozen people.

Now he’s Jim Hoff, and runs Gateway Pundit.

RBS

Idiot America is largely about precisely this phenomenon. It used to be that cranks were told that they were crazy, to their faces, and weren’t given much credence. Now they host blogs and podcasts and radio shows and television shows and write NYT Best-Sellers.

Anything can be true if it moves units or produces ratings.

38 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 8:43:09am

re: #35 jonhendry

I loved the “Michelle Malkin Memorial Unpaid Internment Program” line, along with the mention of her book.

BURN.

That was actually how I first came to hear of Ms. Malkin. Her you know defense of the internment of the Japanese Americans during WWII which you know should be used by conservatives as a strike against FDR. But go figure, she chose arguably the worst aspect of FDR’s legacy to defend.

39 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 8:44:16am

I can’t see any difference in the #tcot feed between today and any other day.

40 iossarian  Apr 1, 2014 8:44:32am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

I can’t see any difference in the #tcot feed between today and any other day.

BENGHAZI?

41 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 8:45:01am

re: #32 Iwouldprefernotto

Fox News Host

HA, that’s it! ‘FNH’ is the new right-wing counterpart to ‘SJW’.u

42 klys  Apr 1, 2014 8:45:24am

re: #40 iossarian

BENGHAZI?

Apply directly to the forehead.

43 lawhawk  Apr 1, 2014 8:53:21am

Meanwhile, Drudge (and NRO) is trying to cast blame on Obama over the latest GM recalls, who somehow should have known that one of the cars he was touting in the cash for clunkers would go on to be one of those at the center of a major coverup at GM for ignition lock issues.


The link goes to Geraghty at NRO. Geraghty points out that all 2005-2010 Cobalts are being recalled because of that problem. But then leaves the reader to draw conclusions not in evidence (namely that Obama somehow knew or should have known of the problems, and that Cash for Clunkers was a poor program, etc.)

That this goes to the GM leadership in place before the bankruptcy reorganization and that GM was trying to save pennies and instead is costing the company hundreds of millions (if not more) isn’t a reflection on Obama, but on the fact that GM was driving GM into bankruptcy with its awful penny pinching while blaming all woes on unions.

44 makeitstop  Apr 1, 2014 8:53:36am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

The cringe worthy HuffPost Live interview with Suey Park: live.huffingtonpost.com

*Found the youtube version*

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I had to turn it off. Too many sentences ending in question-like inflections for my taste

45 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 8:54:49am

re: #43 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Drudge (and NRO) is trying to cast blame on Obama over the latest GM recalls, who somehow should have known that one of the cars he was touting in the cash for clunkers would go on to be one of those at the center of a major coverup at GM for ignition lock issues.

[Embedded content]

The link goes to Geraghty at NRO. Geraghty points out that all 2005-2010 Cobalts are being recalled because of that problem. But then leaves the reader to draw conclusions not in evidence (namely that Obama somehow knew or should have known of the problems, and that Cash for Clunkers was a poor program, etc.)

That this goes to the GM leadership in place before the bankruptcy reorganization and that GM was trying to save pennies and instead is costing the company hundreds of millions (if not more) isn’t a reflection on Obama, but on the fact that GM was driving GM into bankruptcy with its awful penny pinching while blaming all woes on unions.

When in doubt, blame the unions. Page one of the RW playbook since the Industrial Revolution.

46 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 8:58:15am

re: #37 GunstarGreen

Idiot America is largely about precisely this phenomenon. It used to be that cranks were told that they were crazy, to their faces, and weren’t given much credence. Now they host blogs and podcasts and radio shows and television shows and write NYT Best-Sellers.

Anything can be true if it moves units or produces ratings.

That’s to a great degree a result of the Internet and the massive upgrade it has given to communication. The problem is that the newspaper sold from boxes along the outside of “Crazy Mr. Brown“‘s park were already very good at getting their publication out and they did not gain nearly as much from the net as did “Crazy Mr. Brown”. Mr. Brown, by sharp point of contrast, would have found has capability to reach people greatly boosted by the internet, with the result that he was now able to reach far more people and offer and better looking product.

As it happened, though, Mr. Brown never got a chance to use the Internet to spew his conspiracy theories. A couple years before Netscape was launched he was recruited to take part in a diamond heist in LA, only to be killed by the LAPD, which had infiltrated the heist crew.

47 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 8:59:09am

A roundup of Brookings Scholars on the Ukraine/Crimea Crisis

48 Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2014 9:00:40am

Interesting post from a woman of color who’s had run-ins with Suey Park before:

joslynstevens.com

49 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 9:01:48am

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

That’s to a great degree a result of the Internet and the massive upgrade it has given to communication. The problem is that the newspaper sold from boxes along the outside of “Crazy Mr. Brown“‘s park were already very good at getting their publication out and they did not gain nearly as much from the net as did “Crazy Mr. Brown”. Mr. Brown, by sharp point of contrast, would have found has capability to reach people greatly boosted by the internet, with the result that he was now able to reach far more people and offer and better looking product.

As it happened, though, Mr. Brown never got a chance to use the Internet to spew his conspiracy theories. A couple years before Netscape was launched he was recruited to take part in a diamond heist in LA, only to be killed by the LAPD, which had infiltrated the heist crew.

I do agree with this. Mass communications has exposed a lot of nuttiness out there. Whereas in the past, Crazy Old McLoonie would leave his rants to your hometown. Now he gets to broadcast them for the whole world to see via facebook or Twitter. World’s always been nuts but now the nuts can show the world their collective nuttery.

50 Skip Intro  Apr 1, 2014 9:05:32am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I do agree with this. Mass communications has exposed a lot of nuttiness out there. Whereas in the past, Crazy Old McLoonie would leave his rants to your hometown. Now he gets to broadcast them for the whole world to see via facebook or Twitter. World’s always been nuts but now the nuts can show the world their collective nuttery.

What’s much worse is that they can now find each other. No other way to explain the success of Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

51 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:06:09am

re: #16 Targetpractice

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For those who don’t want to chew through the gristle, it’s basically just a new cover slapped onto the 2014 budget, with the numbers moved around to account for projected slower growth, and filled to the brim with Ryan’s temper tantrums.

Yeah, some get the exclusive dinner reservations with plenty of drinks, and the rest of us are lucky to partake of the $1 menu at McD’s.

52 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 9:07:15am

re: #42 klys

Apply directly to the forehead.

Some applied it too much and it has left a big old hole where all their brains spilled out. It is not pretty.

53 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:08:07am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Interesting post from a woman of color who’s had run-ins with Suey Park before:

joslynstevens.com

And an explanation of why she was interviewed in her bedroom?

54 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 1, 2014 9:09:01am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I do agree with this. Mass communications has exposed a lot of nuttiness out there. Whereas in the past, Crazy Old McLoonie would leave his rants to your hometown. Now he gets to broadcast them for the whole world to see via facebook or Twitter. World’s always been nuts but now the nuts can show the world their collective nuttery.

Local once a week newspapers, the kind that are actually thriving in small towns, do a booming business in Freazoid McNutcase’s letters to the editor. Often they’re the stuff that Infowars won’t touch mixed up with elements of local politics. Today’s school board elections here in Hayward could be the catalyst for such a crank though (thank you Lord) I haven’t run into any; just one Libertarian twit promising he’d be willing to make the “hard choices” necessary to protect his wallet. O_o Yeah, right. I voted for the native American single mom instead ;)

55 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 9:10:19am

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

And an explanation of why she was interviewed in her bedroom?

She claims to be an invalid who is confined to bed most of the time. So Victorian quaint.

56 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 9:10:24am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

World’s always been nuts but now the nuts can show the world their collective nuttery.

And it’s much easier for them to find each other.

57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 9:13:53am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I do agree with this. Mass communications has exposed a lot of nuttiness out there. Whereas in the past, Crazy Old McLoonie would leave his rants to your hometown. Now he gets to broadcast them for the whole world to see via facebook or Twitter. World’s always been nuts but now the nuts can show the world their collective nuttery.

This is the same stuff you could find in any bar or lunchroom, but the audience was limited to those in earshot of the ranter/raver/grudge-bearer.

58 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 9:15:16am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This is the same stuff you could find in any bar or lunchroom, but the audience was limited to those in earshot of the ranter/raver/grudge-bearer.

Precisely.

59 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 9:16:11am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Interesting post from a woman of color who’s had run-ins with Suey Park before:

joslynstevens.com

Yup….

Calling for someone to be fired solely because he hurt your feelings by calling your opinions stupid is weak, immature, and shows intolerance against those who dare question your intelligence and alleged outrage. Who’s the real bully here?

60 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 9:17:52am

Television people.

61 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 9:19:30am

OKCupid piles on Mozilla, calls for new CEO to resign

Rudder made it clear that, at least for him, part of the OKCupid’s actions were punitive. “I want all the proto-Eich’s in the world to realize, don’t do this. There should be shame involved in supporting things that are hurtful to other people. Those people should feel the shame that they make others feel,” he said.


Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

62 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 9:20:16am

Suey Park is buddies with Michelle Malkin.

63 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:20:36am

re: #55 Pie-onist Overlord

She claims to be an invalid who is confined to bed most of the time. So Victorian quaint.

Which doesn’t stop her from wearing full makeup, does it? For someone who allegedly is “suffering” she looks very attractive. When most people suffer, they look like shit and don’t care if they do, esp if they’re ill both physically and mentally.

Just another attention whore with a schtick, or seriously mentally ill, or both.

And WTF is this “triggering” bullshit? If I collapsed every time someone said something mean to me, I’d have never gotten through life.

I think this woman has discovered her muse: Constant Attention.

64 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 9:21:06am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

OKCupid piles on Mozilla, calls for new CEO to resign


Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

It’d be consistent with your libertarian beliefs, but I am interested whether you think that, say, a jazz musician who refused to perform at a club run by a segregationist is also a monster. Do you?

65 klys  Apr 1, 2014 9:21:14am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

OKCupid piles on Mozilla, calls for new CEO to resign


Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

So where is your cutoff point, where you are unwilling to support someone economically because their actions are morally abhorrent to you?

I’m sort of assuming you have one, maybe that’s a wrong assumption.

66 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 9:41:17am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Meh, I don’t use that site anyways. But I’m used to Firefox and I’m not going to drop it just because of the political views of Mozilla’s CEO.

67 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 9:42:02am

re: #63 Justanotherhuman

Which doesn’t stop her from wearing full makeup, does it? For someone who allegedly is “suffering” she looks very attractive. When most people suffer, they look like shit and don’t care if they do, esp if they’re ill both physically and mentally.

Just another attention whore with a schtick, or seriously mentally ill, or both.

And WTF is this “triggering” bullshit? If I collapsed every time someone said something mean to me, I’d have never gotten through life.

I think this woman has discovered her muse: Constant Attention.

I just listened to that interview at HuffPro. Wow.

I would comment further, but since I am a white male…

Since I am not a tweeter, has anyone started #cancelwhitemaleopinion?

Oppress the Oppressors…everyone, under the bus!!!

(Ha, I did not know that the hashtag makes it a real live twitter tag. Looks like no one has it going.)

68 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 9:43:45am

re: #65 klys

So where is your cutoff point, where you are unwilling to support someone economically because their actions are morally abhorrent to you?

I’m sort of assuming you have one, maybe that’s a wrong assumption.

I don’t know really, it depends but I try to keep things in perspective. I’m a long time supporter of gay marriage but I realize not everybody shares my views and the historical trend is in favor of my side. I’m not threatened by those who disagree with me so I see no need to punish them as a warning to others. My favorite Halal market is owned my the mosque next door. They probably don’t support gay marriage but they have great deals on spices. I shop there and it doesn’t bother me.

69 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 9:43:49am

Music break! Here’s a sneak peek at the Nine Inch Nails set for Austin City Limits:

Vimeo

I had the pleasure of seeing this live. Such an amazing show. Can’t wait to see the full set again. :D

70 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 9:44:19am

#CancelEverybody

71 Mattand  Apr 1, 2014 9:44:31am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

OKCupid piles on Mozilla, calls for new CEO to resign


Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Seriously: you and your concern trolling can fuck yourselves.

The man who is supposed to be on of the public faces of Mozilla and Firefox worked to deny people civil rights based on their sexuality.

That’s not a matter of one person’s opinion; that’s openly embracing bigotry.

Given your past nasty remarks about Rachel Maddow and her sexuality, though, I’m not surprised you don’t see this as a big deal.

72 CriticalDragon1177  Apr 1, 2014 9:44:54am

Charles Johnson,

This was hilarious! So glad they didn’t Cancel Colbert! People should have looked more into it, and realized it was just a joke.

73 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 9:45:04am

In fairness on the OKCupid vs. Firefox issue: I’ve been using Firefox since long, LONG before they promoted their current CEO. I’m not going to change my browsing solution to something else (they were even recommending IE. IE for christ’s sake) that doesn’t support the features and plugins that my web usage is tailored around simply because they happened to promote an asshole to CEO for now. And I didn’t appreciate being harassed about it in an unsolicited manner, as if I’m too stupid to follow current events on my own.

That being said, I just clicked “Whatever, get out of my face and let me go on my way” and moved on.

re: #63 Justanotherhuman

Like so many other things in the SJW sphere, “triggering” was something that once had a legitimate application (being sensitive to PTSD and rape victims), then got twisted so far that it’s no longer recognizable or at all useful. Nowadays, “Trigger Warnings” are used to point out any case of anything that might make anyone uncomfortable to any degree, and it’s an absurd farce.

74 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 9:45:04am

re: #63 Justanotherhuman

Which doesn’t stop her from wearing full makeup, does it? For someone who allegedly is “suffering” she looks very attractive. When most people suffer, they look like shit and don’t care if they do, esp if they’re ill both physically and mentally.

Just another attention whore with a schtick, or seriously mentally ill, or both.

And WTF is this “triggering” bullshit? If I collapsed every time someone said something mean to me, I’d have never gotten through life.

I think this woman has discovered her muse: Constant Attention.

She may or may not have panic “triggers”, but if she does, I’d recommend another line of work for her.

75 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 9:45:25am

Also. Was thinking. Anyone that feels threatened by “hash tag activism” on TWITTER probably shouldn’t leave their mother’s basement.

76 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 9:45:48am
77 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 9:45:53am

Note: that may or may not be satire on my part.

78 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:46:10am

re: #69 Lidane

Music break! Here’s a sneak peek at the Nine Inch Nails set for Austin City Limits:

[Embedded content]

I had the pleasure of seeing this live. Such an amazing show. Can’t wait to see the full set again. :D

Teehee. I’m listening to “The Merry Sherwood Rangers”. I do this once in a while.

amazon.com

79 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 9:47:12am

re: #75 Gus

Tag.

80 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:47:30am

re: #74 calochortus

She may or may not have panic “triggers”, but if she does, I’d recommend another line of work for her.

I think she knows the language and is making all of this up. It’s just more bullshit from the internet.

If this is the future of “activism” we are so fucked.

81 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 9:48:22am

re: #75 Gus

Also. Was thinking. Anyone that feels threatened by “hash tag activism” on TWITTER probably shouldn’t leave their mother’s basement be on Teh Internets.

82 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 9:48:40am

re: #80 Justanotherhuman

I think she knows the language and is making all of this up. It’s just more bullshit from the internet.

If this is the future of “activism” we are so fucked.

It’s not the future, yo. It’s the present. Why actually go places and do things and make sacrifices when you can just whine like an asshole on twitter/tumblr and call yourself an “activist” there?

83 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 9:49:10am

re: #78 Justanotherhuman

Every time anyone mentions amazon.com I think about 3 embroidery books that I’m just drooling over.
Oddly, actual Amazon ads and emails do not have this effect on me.

Should I just go order them and get it over with?

84 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 9:49:17am

re: #80 Justanotherhuman

I think she knows the language and is making all of this up. It’s just more bullshit from the internet.

If this is the future of “activism” we are so fucked.

What??? The world can’t be changed with the click of the mouse? Damn I thought the internet was the be all.

85 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 9:49:33am

re: #80 Justanotherhuman

I think she knows the language and is making all of this up. It’s just more bullshit from the internet.

If this is the future of “activism” we are so fucked.

Suey Park and Michelle Malkin: If they’re our future, we’re history.

86 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 9:49:35am

re: #73 GunstarGreen

In fairness on the OKCupid vs. Firefox issue: I’ve been using Firefox since long, LONG before they promoted their current CEO. I’m not going to change my browsing solution to something else (they were even recommending IE. IE for christ’s sake) that doesn’t support the features and plugins that my web usage is tailored around simply because they happened to promote an asshole to CEO for now. And I didn’t appreciate being harassed about it in an unsolicited manner, as if I’m too stupid to follow current events on my own.

That being said, I just clicked “Whatever, get out of my face and let me go on my way” and moved on.

Mozilla offers health benefits to spouses of same sex employees, the CEO is not using his position or the company to advance his personal politics or force his views on others. however, the OK Cupid CEO is doing exactly that.

87 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 9:50:32am

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

Suey Park and Michelle Malkin: If they’re our future, we’re history.

I blame Samsung!!!

/

88 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 9:50:35am

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

Suey Park and Michelle Malkin: If they’re our future, we’re history.

Not to worry. They aren’t. We’re just bored and looking for someone to talk about.

89 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 9:50:38am

I’m starting to look at this like a cage match in which both contenders lose.

90 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 9:51:25am

re: #89 Gus

I’m starting to look at this like a cage match in which both contenders lose.

Welcome to Blunderdome!

91 klys  Apr 1, 2014 9:51:53am

re: #83 calochortus

Every time anyone mentions amazon.com I think about 3 embroidery books that I’m just drooling over.
Oddly, actual Amazon ads and emails do not have this effect on me.

Should I just go order them and get it over with?

Yes. Always. Embroidery rules all.

92 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 9:52:09am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Welcome to Blunderdome!

Ah, good. We finally got beyond thunderdome.

I’m here all week!

93 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 9:52:44am

re: #63 Justanotherhuman

Which doesn’t stop her from wearing full makeup, does it? For someone who allegedly is “suffering” she looks very attractive. When most people suffer, they look like shit and don’t care if they do, esp if they’re ill both physically and mentally.

Just another attention whore with a schtick, or seriously mentally ill, or both.

And WTF is this “triggering” bullshit? If I collapsed every time someone said something mean to me, I’d have never gotten through life.

I think this woman has discovered her muse: Constant Attention.

Triggering is a valid word that gets pulled out far too often. It’s really just a rephrasing of something common sense.

You wouldn’t show a film that contained graphic depictions of rape to a class, for example, without warning them “Hey, this film has a lot of brutal rape, so it might bother some people.” That’s ‘triggering’. The most common modern association of it is with PTSD: for a lot of sufferers of battlefield PTSD, various things are triggering, like crowds, loud noises, etc.

Like anything, it’s just a matter of taking it into account. Making jokes about child-rape is stupid not just because it’s crass, but because people who have actually been raped as kids may get triggered by it. So if you are going to make that joke, you have to think about whether or not it’s actually worth it.

for the Vietnam vets at the bar I used to bartend at, Robert MacNamara and any Vietnam movie were triggering. If any of that came on the TV, they’d get upset. I did my best to make sure that our TVs stayed Vietnam free, so that those dudes didn’t get triggered.

Like anything, it gets used incorrectly and unfairly by people, in the same way that people claim to be offended when they’re embarrassed, etc. It’s a real thing, but it gets used as a trump card when it shouldn’t.

94 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 9:53:04am

re: #80 Justanotherhuman

I think she knows the language and is making all of this up. It’s just more bullshit from the internet.

If this is the future of “activism” we are so fucked.

It’s not the future of activism.

95 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:53:59am

re: #73 GunstarGreen

Woops! Meant to say I use FF also, and won’t change just because someone tells me to.

Not every company is as pristine about women’s rights as I would like for them to be either, esp tech firms.

So, whatcha gonna do? Without?

96 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 9:54:25am

re: #91 klys

Yes. Always. Embroidery rules all.

I knew I could count on you to enable. ;)

97 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:54:44am

re: #82 GunstarGreen

It’s not the future, yo. It’s the present. Why actually go places and do things and make sacrifices when you can just whine like an asshole on twitter/tumblr and call yourself an “activist” there?

Or get to use shorthand in 140 characters to abuse a subject?

98 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 9:56:06am

re: #80 Justanotherhuman

If this is the future of “activism” we are so fucked.

It’s only one aspect of current activism and anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit.

You still need warm bodies on the ground doing real work and putting in real effort in order to affect change. Sending a barrage of tweets with hashtags doesn’t even come close.

99 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 9:56:39am

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Mozilla offers health benefits to spouses of same sex employees, the CEO is not using his position or the company to advance his personal politics or force his views on others. however, the OK Cupid CEO is doing exactly that.

The position of CEO in a modern corporation is a leadership position. CEOs are combination cheerleaders, planners, advocates, evangelists, recruiters, etc. That the CEO of Mozilla is bigoted against gay people has an effect on his ability to do that job, because CEO is a public-facing position that implies advocacy.

I know you’re not going to answer since you dodge any remotely difficult question, but would you be against a jazz musician, refusing to play at a club where the manager was a segregationist? By your logic, you would be against that.

100 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 9:57:24am

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

Suey Park and Michelle Malkin: If they’re our future, we’re history.

They’re not our future.

101 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 9:57:35am

re: #98 Lidane

It’s only one aspect of current activism and anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit.

You still need warm bodies on the ground doing real work and putting in real effort in order to affect change. Sending a barrage of tweets with hashtags doesn’t even come close.

No, but it’s effective amongst the unwashed, and it gets attention, exactly like the user wants.

Take on a well known comedian who was joshing in the first place and twist it for your own purposes.

And everyone talks about it.

102 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 9:58:03am

re: #88 calochortus

Not to worry. They aren’t. We’re just bored and looking for someone to talk about.

Here’s another ‘Asian’ story that folks might like better:

The arms deal that brought down Sen. Leland Yee, his consultant and a dentist

The 137-page affidavit details the FBI’s 4-year investigation of a criminal organization in San Francisco, its ties to Yee, and on Yee’s corruption. It reads like a crime novel following two undercover agents who immerse themselves in the city’s seedy underbelly. One agent poses as a political donor, exploring the depths of Yee’s corruption and how it affects state legislation. While the other exposes criminal mischief, i.e. money laundering, drugs, stolen goods and guns, which ultimately leads him to meet with Yee about an arms trafficker.

The latter agent’s story began May 2010 when he met Kwok Cheung Chow, aka “Shrimp Boy,” the head of the criminal organization Chee Kung Tong in San Francisco. The agent embeds himself with Chow’s people and various dealings and meetings, eventually discussing the arms deal with Yee three years later.

Keith Jackson, Yee’s political consultant, is the intermediary that brings them together around May 2011, but it isn’t until summer 2013 that Yee’s gun connection is introduced in the conversation. Over time, Jackson and the agent have various transactions such as money laundering, drug investments, gun sales and campaign contributions. It eventually adds up to meet the probable cause needed for a formal charge.

103 klys  Apr 1, 2014 9:58:04am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I don’t know really, it depends but I try to keep things in perspective. I’m a long time supporter of gay marriage but I realize not everybody shares my views and the historical trend is in favor of my side. I’m not threatened by those who disagree with me so I see no need to punish them as a warning to others. My favorite Halal market is owned my the mosque next door. They probably don’t support gay marriage but they have great deals on spices. I shop there and it doesn’t bother me.

I’m really not sure how to respond to this.

Historical trends don’t mean a lot to the gay couple that needs access to benefits *now* because one of them is sick and the other has health insurance. It doesn’t mean a lot to those who have done their best to legally establish their union only to see states pass laws and/or constitutional amendments to attempt to interfere with that, simply because their partner is of the same gender. So maybe those who disagree with your view aren’t threatening *you* but they represent a very real and direct threat to other people’s rights.

Your attitude towards this seems to be that well, that doesn’t matter because it doesn’t directly affect you. I’d rather not be that selfish.

104 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 9:58:07am

Yep. Hash tag activism is not the future. Neither is hash tag foreign policy. AMITRITE?

105 Gus  Apr 1, 2014 10:00:00am

Wait! That’s different!

106 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 10:00:12am

Real news story or April Fools

107 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:00:15am

re: #104 Gus

Yep. Hash tag activism is not the future. Neither is hash tag foreign policy. AMITRITE?

Hash tag makes me think of a lot of hippies giggling and slowly stumbling around a meadow trying to catch each other.

108 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:00:47am

re: #104 Gus

Yep. Hash tag activism is not the future. Neither is hash tag foreign policy. AMITRITE?

I don’t think hash tag anything is the future of anything.

109 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:00:50am

re: #96 calochortus

I knew I could count on you to enable. ;)

I found a new needlework store down in Morgan Hill! Absolutely fantastically stocked. If I am good and get the to do list done at home this week, I might allow myself to go on Friday.

110 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 10:01:17am

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

Here’s another ‘Asian’ story that folks might like better:

The arms deal that brought down Sen. Leland Yee, his consultant and a dentist

It sounds more like “Shrimp Boy” and Keith Jackson were involved than Yee. Not one sentence in your report attributed anything illegal to Yee, although there could have been—it just wasn’t mentioned. I had read that Yee actually transacted bribery with the agent himself earlier. Is that true or not?

111 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 10:01:27am

re: #106 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s not a 666, it’s Herman Cain nostalgia.

112 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 1, 2014 10:01:46am

re: #71 Mattand

Given your past nasty remarks about Rachel Maddow and her sexuality, though, I’m not surprised you don’t see this as a big deal.

DING DING DING - We have a winner here.

113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 10:01:58am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I’m not threatened by those who disagree with me so I see no need to punish them as a warning to others.

You’re not punishing them, you are just exercising your right to free choice, which is something they wish to deny certain other people…

This is like saying that you are “punishing” Glenn Beck by not watching his show or “punishing” Ted Nugent by not hiring him to play at your fundraiser.

114 Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2014 10:02:14am

re: #104 Gus

Yep. Hash tag activism is not the future. Neither is hash tag foreign policy. AMITRITE?

You might have a point if that State Department hash tag tweet was the only thing they’re doing. But it isn’t.

Is everybody going to be weird today?

115 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 10:02:45am

I’m just going to post canned goods.

116 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:02:55am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

You might have a point if that State Department hash tag tweet was the only thing they’re doing. But it isn’t.

Is everybody going to be weird today?

Charles, I know I can tempt you with embroidery books.

////

117 lawhawk  Apr 1, 2014 10:03:12am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

Every day is April Fools on Twitter. Some days are more foolish than others. This is one of those days.

118 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 10:03:19am

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

That’s to a great degree a result of the Internet and the massive upgrade it has given to communication. The problem is that the newspaper sold from boxes along the outside of “Crazy Mr. Brown“‘s park were already very good at getting their publication out and they did not gain nearly as much from the net as did “Crazy Mr. Brown”. Mr. Brown, by sharp point of contrast, would have found has capability to reach people greatly boosted by the internet, with the result that he was now able to reach far more people and offer and better looking product.

As it happened, though, Mr. Brown never got a chance to use the Internet to spew his conspiracy theories. A couple years before Netscape was launched he was recruited to take part in a diamond heist in LA, only to be killed by the LAPD, which had infiltrated the heist crew.

There is no point in me ever being on the internets from this point forward, I will never see anything as good that that. I tip my hat to you Sir, I tip my hat.

RBS

119 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 10:03:23am

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

Why might we like it better? And what difference does it make that he is Asian?
Yee has a somewhat ethically troubled past, but has always managed to skate through. If he is corrupt he needs to be dealt with by the law.

120 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 10:03:32am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Youtube Video

121 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 10:05:04am

re: #103 klys

I’m really not sure how to respond to this.

Historical trends don’t mean a lot to the gay couple that needs access to benefits *now* because one of them is sick and the other has health insurance. It doesn’t mean a lot to those who have done their best to legally establish their union only to see states pass laws and/or constitutional amendments to attempt to interfere with that, simply because their partner is of the same gender. So maybe those who disagree with your view aren’t threatening *you* but they represent a very real and direct threat to other people’s rights.

Your attitude towards this seems to be that well, that doesn’t matter because it doesn’t directly affect you. I’d rather not be that selfish.

It does matter to me, I think it’s an important issue. A few years ago Prop 8 was popular with voters, Obama himself only embraced the concept of gay marriage recently. Imagine the positions are reversed: Gay marriage proposals are popular with voters, the courts overturn gay marriage and puplic opinion begins to turn against gay marriage. If CEO’s then used their companies and new found social acceptance to punish gay marriage proponents for their political activity. It would hinder our progress by punishing people for legitimate political activity and would make it more difficult to achieve political development. It’s intolerant and suppressive.

122 darthstar  Apr 1, 2014 10:05:52am

Hat tip to sattv4u for the tasteless idea of the following tweet.

123 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:06:52am

Twitter is going to be a thing for awhile, until it’s replaced by some other thing. During the time it is active, it will have some effects and influence. It will not become the be-all end-all, it will mostly be used, when it is used, as a proxy for other information.

There is a tendency of people to think that things that are new are truly transformative; it’s almost always only in retrospect that we can see what the real transformative technologies are, and even those are mostly limited in time, and they still act on a system, they do not replace it.

124 Dr. Matt  Apr 1, 2014 10:06:59am

re: #44 makeitstop

I had to turn it off. Too many sentences ending in question-like inflections for my taste

In brief, racism is the fault of white liberal men, white liberal men prevent her from speaking out, and white liberal men victimize her. Suey sounds like the Asian version of Sarah Palin.

125 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:07:46am

Morning.

I’m still pissed about this.

you?

126 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:08:44am

re: #121 Killgore Trout

Imagine the positions are reversed: Gay marriage proposals are popular with voters, the courts overturn gay marriage and puplic opinion begins to turn against gay marriage. If CEO’s then used their companies and new found social acceptance to punish gay marriage proponents for their political activity. It would hinder our progress by punishing people for legitimate political activity and would make it more difficult to achieve political development. It’s intolerant and suppressive.

To use your awkward language: Do you think that a jazz musician refusing to play at a place run by a segregationist is ‘punishing’ that segregationist?

127 iossarian  Apr 1, 2014 10:08:56am

re: #121 Killgore Trout

Is this comment meant to communicate anything more sophisticated than “no-one should oppose anything, because then other people might oppose THEM”?

128 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:09:23am

re: #121 Killgore Trout

It does matter to me, I think it’s an important issue. A few years ago Prop 8 was popular with voters, Obama himself only embraced the concept of gay marriage recently. Imagine the positions are reversed: Gay marriage proposals are popular with voters, the courts overturn gay marriage and puplic opinion begins to turn against gay marriage. If CEO’s then used their companies and new found social acceptance to punish gay marriage proponents for their political activity. It would hinder our progress by punishing people for legitimate political activity and would make it more difficult to achieve political development. It’s intolerant and suppressive.

You live in this very weird fantasy world where having any consequences for speech is apparently a punishment.

…which says a lot, really.

129 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 10:09:25am

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

Morning.

I’m still pissed about this.

you?

The GOVERNMENT has no place telling people what they can do, but Jebus is all up in your LadyBits. /RWNJ

RBS

130 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 10:10:33am

re: #124 Dr. Matt

In brief, racism is the fault of white liberal men, white liberal men prevent her from speaking out, and white liberal men victimize her. Suey sounds like the Asian version of Sarah Palin.

Well, she’s certainly passive-aggressive enough.

131 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 10:10:50am

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

It sounds more like “Shrimp Boy” and Keith Jackson were involved than Yee. Not one sentence in your report attributed anything illegal to Yee, although there could have been—it just wasn’t mentioned. I had read that Yee actually transacted bribery with the agent himself earlier. Is that true or not?

If you read on it becomes very clear Yee played the key role in brokering the arms deal at the heart of the case. He was prepared to smuggle in M-16A1s and the Chinese copies of same. Also of interest is the following:

[Dr. Wilson] Lim’s source for the weapons was a Philippine citizen who used to sell guns to clients in Florida, meaning he has ties there. The plan was for Lim’s contact to ship weapons from the port of Cagayan de Oro, which is on the north end of Mindanao, to Florida and then off to wherever the agent wants.

“The ideal way of handling it,” Yee said.

The weapons need to be shipped to the Port of Newark, New Jersey, the agent said because his family has connections there. From Newark, a portion of the weapons would be shipped to Sicily and then on to North Africa.

Yee told the agent that it would be easier if he picked up the weapons in the Philippines. He then added that Lim was surprised to hear the agent wanted $2 million for the initial purchase - a sum that’s quite large and might bring about unwanted attention.

“We can’t catch attention to any of this stuff,” Yee said, and reiterated that it would be best if the agent picked up the shipment from the port of Cagayan de Oro. Yee then warned that the Philippines are a corrupt place and would have to pay people off at every level in this deal.

(Bolding mine.)

I wonder if those guns smuggled into Florida were for the drug cartels or for wingnut militia types. It’s something the FBI and ATF should look into, to be sure. We’re talking about illegally smuggled in full-auto weapons, to be clear, not semi-auto replicas of same.

132 Skip Intro  Apr 1, 2014 10:11:03am

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

Morning.

I’m still pissed about this.

you?

As Catholic Healthcare keeps buying up hospitals, it’s just going to get worse, and I doubt they’re going to stop at contraception/abortion.

133 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:12:40am

re: #132 Skip Intro

As Catholic Healthcare keeps buying up hospitals, it’s just going to get worse, and I doubt they’re going to stop at contraception/abortion.

Scary shit.

134 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 10:13:44am
135 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 10:15:11am

re: #116 klys

Charles, I know I can tempt you with embroidery books.

////

Well, I don’t know about Charles, but I’ve just ordered 2 Jane Nicholas books on stumpwork (raised or 3-D embroidery to the rest of you) and one on goldwork. The latter will enable me to buy some real gold Japanese thread from John Marshall at the weaving conference next month and pretend I’ll do something constructive with it.

136 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 10:16:00am

re: #128 klys

You live in this very weird fantasy world where having any consequences for speech is apparently a punishment.

…which says a lot, really.

Any sort of consequence for speech is a punishment and TV shows based on comic books about the zombie apocalypse must adhere to consistent, logical rules. For example, people who have been disarmed and herded into a cattle car must immediately try to escape when the door opens, despite the fact that they’ve just heard a whole new hail of gunfire.

See? It all makes total sense.

137 Dr. Matt  Apr 1, 2014 10:16:28am

re: #124 Dr. Matt

In brief, racism is the fault of white liberal men, white liberal men prevent her from speaking out, and white liberal men victimize her. Suey sounds like the Asian version of Sarah Palin.

And in Suey’s world, I’m racist since I’m white, librul, a male, and mentioned that she is ‘Asian’ in the aforementioned comment.

138 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:16:55am

Audio: Cuccinelli Rants About “vast left-wing conspiracy,” “Humanist Manifesto” on Hobby Lobby Case

I may have to come-up with a new moniker.

Something like VastFemNaziConspiracy.

But that’s very long.

139 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:17:43am

re: #128 klys

You live in this very weird fantasy world where having any consequences for speech is apparently a punishment.

…which says a lot, really.

Natural Consequences are difficult for those who think they are truly in control.

140 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 10:18:36am

While I would certainly agree that the jazz musician has as much right as anyone to play or not play at whatever venues he or she chooses, I think the analogy is somewhat flawed if we’re still relating it to the OKC/Firefox issue.

That would be more on the order of the musician putting out a release on the digital marketplace, and by means of technology inserting an extra bit at the front of the song/album that only played if the song was being listened to on certain makes/models of digital audio players, essentially telling people that they should use different players because the recently-promoted CEO of the company that made those players is a segregationist. This, despite the fact that the players in question were designed, manufactured, sold, and purchased in an era WELL before this new CEO ever came about, possibly on the order of decades prior.

This aside from the fact that the message-in-question works by detecting the Agent header of the request, and there are reasons other than “I am currently browsing this site using Firefox” for that header to be set to Mozilla, and it’s possible — however unlikely — for the interstitial to interfere with those applications.

It’s just a bad way to go about disseminating the message, is all I’m saying.

141 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 10:18:37am

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Is he for real, or is this more “provocation” from Russia?

142 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:19:02am

???

143 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:19:19am

re: #142 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

???

Check today’s date.

144 Lidane  Apr 1, 2014 10:19:31am

re: #138 FemNaziBitch

Audio: Cuccinelli Rants About “vast left-wing conspiracy,” “Humanist Manifesto” on Hobby Lobby Case

Gotta love how denying contraception is a matter of religious freedom for Hobby Lobby, but investing in contraceptive manufacturers is not:

145 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 10:20:03am

Heh

146 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 10:20:14am

re: #137 Dr. Matt

And in Suey’s world, I’m racist since I’m white, librul, a male, and mentioned that she is ‘Asian’ in the aforementioned comment.

Check your privilege, (presumably) cishet scum.

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147 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:20:49am

re: #144 Lidane

Just remember,we ladies should be supporting them with our dollars, don’t you know, because otherwise we’re punishing them for their political speech.

///////////////////////// I feel like I should be dripping with these.

148 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 10:20:54am

re: #144 Lidane

As has been noted, HL is also not concerned about abortion in China where they get most of the stuff they sell.

149 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:21:29am

re: #148 calochortus

As has been noted, HL is also not concerned about abortion in China where they get most of the stuff they sell.

That’s because it’s not white babies.

/half

150 iossarian  Apr 1, 2014 10:22:05am

re: #147 klys

Just remember,we ladies should be supporting them with our dollars, don’t you know, because otherwise we’re punishing them for their political speech.

///////////////////////// I feel like I should be dripping with these.

I feel compelled to go and buy cheap shit from China from a Hobby Lobby right now. Otherwise, who will stand with me when I am oppressed?

151 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:22:14am

Mr. w just reported being canvassed by Jehovah’s Witnesses while he was outside hanging laundry. They said, ‘We’re getting ready to celebrate the death of Jesus.’ He asked, ‘Do you have a flyer?’ They did, so he said, ‘Stick it in the door, I’ll throw it away when I get the chance.’ So they did.

152 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:22:14am

re: #140 GunstarGreen

While I would certainly agree that the jazz musician has as much right as anyone to play or not play at whatever venues he or she chooses, I think the analogy is somewhat flawed if we’re still relating it to the OKC/Firefox issue.

That would be more on the order of the musician putting out a release on the digital marketplace, and by means of technology inserting an extra bit at the front of the song/album that only played if the song was being listened to on certain makes/models of digital audio players, essentially telling people that they should use different players because the recently-promoted CEO of the company that made those players is a segregationist. This, despite the fact that the players in question were designed, manufactured, sold, and purchased in an era WELL before this new CEO ever came about, possibly on the order of decades prior.

Only if those digital audio players receive constant updates. That analogy is equally bad, actually, if not worse.

But yeah, let’s say it is kind of like having, say, Elton John’s songs not play on Pandora or Spotify or anything on Mozilla because he doesn’t like that they hired a CEO who’s bigoted towards him.

Do you think that’s wrong?

153 simoom  Apr 1, 2014 10:22:23am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

There’s also a third part / segment to that Colbert Report #CancelColbert bit. Here it is:

Comedy Central Video

154 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 10:22:39am

re: #147 klys

Just remember,we ladies should be supporting them with our dollars, don’t you know, because otherwise we’re punishing them for their political speech.

///////////////////////// I feel like I should be dripping with these.

And I think there’s a Hobby Lobby in Morgan Hill, so when you go down to the new needlework place you can stop in at HL and load up on 2nd quality stuff.

155 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 10:22:49am

Oh, wow! It’s going to be 81 deg here tomorrow. Wonder if we’re going straight to it like we did a couple of years ago?

Youtube Video

156 Kragar  Apr 1, 2014 10:25:30am
157 lawhawk  Apr 1, 2014 10:25:55am

re: #144 Lidane

It’s not only investing. It’s about the choice of investment options in the employees’ 401k’s. It’s giving the employees the option to invest with their earnings - part of the company’s compensation package. And then doing the company match on the employees’ choices.

In other words, it’s a pretty good analogy for the health insurance benefits that HL now claims is somehow violating the corporation’s religious rights.

Bad cases make for bad law, and this may well end up being spectacular example of this concept if the court finds for HL.

158 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 10:26:51am

re: #151 wrenchwench

Mr. w just reported being canvassed by Jehovah’s Witnesses while he was outside hanging laundry. They said, ‘We’re getting ready to celebrate the death of Jesus.’ He asked, ‘Do you have a flyer?’ They did, so he said, ‘Stick it in the door, I’ll throw it away when I get the chance.’ So they did.

How fucked up is that? That you celebrate someone’s death? Never could quite get past that one. Seemed pretty goddamned selfish to act all joyful because someone “died for your sins”.

159 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 10:26:52am

re: #152 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Only if those digital audio players receive constant updates. That analogy is equally bad, actually, if not worse.

But yeah, let’s say it is kind of like having, say, Elton John’s songs not play on Pandora or Spotify or anything on Mozilla because he doesn’t like that they hired a CEO who’s bigoted towards him.

Do you think that’s wrong?

Yes. There are much better ways to get out that message than to use the consumer’s choice of viewer/player technology — a choice that they in all likelihood made long, long ago before the offending CEO was hired — as a crude bludgeon.

160 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 10:27:51am

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

Oh, wow! It’s going to be 81 deg here tomorrow. Wonder if we’re going straight to it like we did a couple of years ago?

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72° here in Ohio right now. That means thunderstorms have to be right around the corner. It can’t get that warm, this fast without paying for it.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 10:27:55am

re: #151 wrenchwench

Mr. w just reported being canvassed by Jehovah’s Witnesses while he was outside hanging laundry. They said, ‘We’re getting ready to celebrate the death of Jesus.’ He asked, ‘Do you have a flyer?’ They did, so he said, ‘Stick it in the door, I’ll throw it away when I get the chance.’ So they did.

WHAT WHAT WHAT

162 Kragar  Apr 1, 2014 10:29:01am

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) has told the Department of Justice that he has ordered the Texas Department of Criminal Justice not to abide by federal rules that were designed to prevent prison rapes.

In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder last week, Perry explained that Texas could not afford to implement parts of the Prison Rape Elimination Act (PREA), which was signed by President George W. Bush in 2003.

“Washington has taken an opportunity to help address a problem in our prisons and jails, but instead created a counterproductive and unnecessarily cumbersome regulatory mess for the states,” Perry wrote in the letter. “Absent standards that acknowledge the operational realities of our prisons and jails, I will not sign your form (certifying compliance with the act) and I will encourage my fellow governors to follow suit.”

163 iossarian  Apr 1, 2014 10:29:25am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT WHAT WHAT

This really bright shiny thing appeared in the sky today. It’s like the end times or something.

164 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 10:30:15am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT WHAT WHAT

I guess some people sometimes prefer to dry their clothes the old fashioned way, Shelia.

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165 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:30:38am

re: #159 GunstarGreen

Yes. There are much better ways to get out that message than to use the consumer’s choice of viewer/player technology — a choice that they in all likelihood made long, long ago before the offending CEO was hired — as a crude bludgeon.

Say there’s better ways doesn’t say that that’s wrong, just that it’s not optimal. The choice of a viewer/player is also something that is changeable instantly: i frequently have to fire up IE to access sites that for whatever goddamn reason still won’t work with chrome. There is one site that only works on Firefox with me. So it’s also not an exclusive choice.

I don’t think it’s some amazingly good strategy either—partially because switching what browser you’re using for the moment is so trivial—but that’s not what I asked.

166 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 10:30:53am

re: #151 wrenchwench

Mr. w just reported being canvassed by Jehovah’s Witnesses while he was outside hanging laundry. They said, ‘We’re getting ready to celebrate the death of Jesus.’ He asked, ‘Do you have a flyer?’ They did, so he said, ‘Stick it in the door, I’ll throw it away when I get the chance.’ So they did.

Let’s not let him down….

One can not truly repent if one has not truly sinned.

RBS

167 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:31:24am

re: #144 Lidane

Gotta love how denying contraception is a matter of religious freedom for Hobby Lobby, but investing in contraceptive manufacturers is not:

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Can I just say again how grateful I’m glad that this pathetic bigot isn’t and will never be my governor.

168 Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2014 10:31:33am

re: #153 simoom

There’s also a third part / segment to that Colbert Report #CancelColbert bit. Here it is:

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Thanks, just added that. I was trying to edit the post a little while ago to put that in, but the server locked up.

We seem to be out of the woods - not sure what caused the downtime. I think the hamsters might have gotten a little food poisoning.

169 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 10:32:22am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Can I just say again how grateful I’m glad that this pathetic bigot isn’t and will never be my governor.

EDIT
ok, that ended up on the wrong post….

170 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:32:24am

re: #162 Kragar

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Texas can afford to execute innocent people but they can’t afford to prevent prison rape. Fuck Perry.

171 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:33:48am

re: #169 RealityBasedSteve

simple.. One COSTS you money, the other one MAKES you money… Prosperity Jebus want you rich.

RBS

Yep. Kind of like it was a okay for Romney when he was in charge of Bain to invest in fetus disposal clinics but it was not okay for a woman to make that choice.

172 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:33:50am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT WHAT WHAT

He was also bothered by some people looking at the house next door. They said, ‘Is this place for rent?’ He said, ‘Yes.’ They said, ‘Where’s your wife?’ He almost said, ‘Do you think I’d be hanging laundry if I had a wife?’ Instead he said, ‘Why do you assume I have a wife? Maybe I have a husband.’ Then he directed them to the sign with the realtor’s number on it.

173 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 10:34:08am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Thanks, just added that. I was trying to edit the post a little while ago to put that in, but the server locked up.

We seem to be out of the woods - not sure what caused the downtime. I think the hamsters might have gotten a little food poisoning.

I’d say its time to feed one of the hamsters to a cat, pour encourager les autres.

174 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:34:30am

re: #172 wrenchwench

He was also bothered by some people looking at the house next door. They said, ‘Is this place for rent?’ He said, ‘Yes.’ They said, ‘Where’s your wife?’ He almost said, ‘Do you think I’d be hanging laundry if I had a wife?’ Instead he said, ‘Why do you assume I have a wife? Maybe I have a husband.’ Then he directed them to the sign with the realtor’s number on it.

I may adore Mr. W a bit right now.

175 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:34:48am

re: #158 Justanotherhuman

How fucked up is that? That you celebrate someone’s death? Never could quite get past that one. Seemed pretty goddamned selfish to act all joyful because someone “died for your sins”.

Most Christians talk about celebrating the resurrection. I think the JWs were being provocative.

176 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 10:35:24am

re: #172 wrenchwench

He was also bothered by some people looking at the house next door. They said, ‘Is this place for rent?’ He said, ‘Yes.’ They said, ‘Where’s your wife?’ He almost said, ‘Do you think I’d be hanging laundry if I had a wife?’ Instead he said, ‘Why do you assume I have a wife? Maybe I have a husband.’ Then he directed them to the sign with the realtor’s number on it.

And Zedushka thinks he’s teh shitz because he learned how to make gefilte fish.

177 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 10:36:22am

re: #158 Justanotherhuman

How fucked up is that? That you celebrate someone’s death? Never could quite get past that one. Seemed pretty goddamned selfish to act all joyful because someone “died for your sins”.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are a strange group. My brother-in-law grew up as a JW. When he got my sis-in-law pregnant they decided to get married. His parents would not come to the wedding and will not talk to him. He is no longer a part of the family as far as they are concerned because he had sex before he was married. That’s damn insane. How can anyone do such a thing to their kids?

178 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:36:56am

re: #174 klys

I may adore Mr. W a bit right now.

He cooks too, but not often enough. And yes, he’s hysterically funny, almost every day.

179 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 10:37:35am
180 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 10:38:03am

re: #165 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Say there’s better ways doesn’t say that that’s wrong, just that it’s not optimal. The choice of a viewer/player is also something that is changeable instantly: i frequently have to fire up IE to access sites that for whatever goddamn reason still won’t work with chrome. There is one site that only works on Firefox with me. So it’s also not an exclusive choice.

I don’t think it’s some amazingly good strategy either—partially because switching what browser you’re using for the moment is so trivial—but that’s not what I asked.

I contend that it is. I say it is wrong because it is non-optimal. It is wrong because it is ineffective. It inconveniences — and I use that word for lack of anything I know that is stronger than it yet not as strong as ‘harasses’ — innocent end-users for effectively no reason. It accomplishes nothing except to piss people off, and likely not in the way that the author of the message intended. For these reasons I say that it is wrong. I’m not pissed at Mozilla for promoting an asshole to CEO, every CEO that I’ve ever heard of is a colossal asshole for all sorts of reasons. I’m pissed at OKC for treating me like a freaking child that has to have current events spoonfed to me by random websites based on nothing but my choice of browser. Hell, for all they know I could have donated a million dollars to the campaign for prop 8, but as long as I happen to use Chrome or IE instead of Firefox they don’t have a single word to say to me.

It’s stupid, and that’s why it’s wrong.

181 klys  Apr 1, 2014 10:38:10am

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

Jehovah’s Witnesses are a strange group. My brother-in-law grew up as a JW. When he got my sis-in-law pregnant they decided to get married. His parents would not come to the wedding and will not talk to him. He is no longer a part of the family as far as they are concerned because he had sex before he was married. That’s damn insane. How can anyone do such a thing to their kids?

Maybe we should ask some of the ‘Christians’ who disown their kids for being gay.

182 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:38:13am

re: #179 jaunte

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I somehow expect Dick Cheney to spin this as bad news because Obama weak appeaser etc.

183 Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2014 10:39:13am
184 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:39:21am

re: #143 klys

Check today’s date.

Ok, I’ve only had 1/2 a cuppa.

didn’t sleep last night

185 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 10:39:50am

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

I would have thought getting married would have redeemed him, but perhaps they are harder on members of the flock than outsiders. My husband and I lived next door to a couple JWs before we were married. They pretty much ignored us until we got married, then they were friendly. They must have been paying attention all along to notice that we had, in fact, gotten married.

186 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:39:58am

re: #183 Charles Johnson

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Two words I never thought I’d ever see in the same sentence that’s for sure.

187 Dr. Matt  Apr 1, 2014 10:40:04am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

We seem to be out of the woods - not sure what caused the downtime.

My guess……Benghazi

188 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:40:52am

re: #151 wrenchwench

‘We’re getting ready to celebrate the death of Jesus.’

That’s just wrong.

189 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 10:41:13am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Thanks, just added that. I was trying to edit the post a little while ago to put that in, but the server locked up.

We seem to be out of the woods - not sure what caused the downtime. I think the hamsters might have gotten a little food poisoning.

It’s the flying penguins. They were harassing the hamsters. (so they couldn’t dance)

RBS

190 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:41:30am

re: #162 Kragar

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So he’s against men having sex with each other, unless it’s state-sponsored. (I know rape isn’t sex, it’s violence, abuse, and domination.)

I hope some prisoners sue the ever-loving hell out of Perry. I wish I believed in hell, and that he could go there.

191 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 10:42:32am

re: #180 GunstarGreen

I contend that it is. I say it is wrong because it is non-optimal. It is wrong because it is ineffective. It inconveniences — and I use that word for lack of anything I know that is stronger than it yet not as strong as ‘harasses’ — innocent end-users for effectively no reason. It accomplishes nothing except to piss people off, and likely not in the way that the author of the message intended. For these reasons I say that it is wrong. I’m not pissed at Mozilla for promoting an asshole to CEO, every CEO that I’ve ever heard of is a colossal asshole for all sorts of reasons. I’m pissed at OKC for treating me like a freaking child that has to have current events spoonfed to me by random websites based on nothing but my choice of browser. Hell, for all they know I could have donated a million dollars to the campaign for prop 8, but as long as I happen to use Chrome or IE instead of Firefox they don’t have a single word to say to me.

It’s stupid, and that’s why it’s wrong.

I’m sure you’re not actually claiming all non-optimal things are wrong, but to be clear, I’m talking about ‘wrong’ on a moral and ethical level.

I wasn’t aware that the Mozilla head was bigoted towards gay people until I read the story on this; I don’t think I need current events ‘spoon fed’ to me, but it is information I’m glad to know.

I guess i might agree with you if the inconvenience were something extraordinary, but like I said, switching browsers to access a website is completely common. It’s not a very high burden of inconvenience on the user.

192 Romantic Heretic  Apr 1, 2014 10:42:38am

re: #19 Lidane

I’m curious why you believe this. Why should social justice only be something on the left?

It’s the word ‘social’ that troubles conservatives of all stripes. Since ‘social’ is the root word of ‘socialism’ and ‘socialism’ was the enemy of America for decades somehow ‘social’ becomes a bad thing.

Also, despite their obvious tribalism, conservatives tend to pride themselves on their individuality. ‘Social’ implies a group into which a person is ‘socialized’. They will no longer be an individual then. This also ties in with my point above.

So conservatives don’t react well to the word ‘social’. They also have rather mixed feelings about ‘justice’ for justice often feels like oppression to them.

193 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:44:32am

re: #190 wrenchwench

So he’s against men having sex with each other, unless it’s state-sponsored. (I know rape isn’t sex, it’s violence, abuse, and domination.)

I hope some prisoners sue the ever-loving hell out of Perry. I wish I believed in hell, and that he could go there.

More like he is all for female inmates getting pregnant —celebrating life and all … .

194 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 10:45:07am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Yep. Kind of like it was a okay for Romney when he was in charge of Bain to invest in fetus disposal clinics but it was not okay for a woman to make that choice.

To be fair to Romney, Stericycle does a great deal more than dispose of fetuses, and and anyways its better if that grim task be done by a properly licensed, bonded, and equipped firm.

The whole Stericycle kurfluffle wasn’t really about Romney having done something wrong, it was about the prospect of evangelical voters being sent hysterical mailers right before their state’s primary or right before the general election saying “MITT ROMNEY FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED ABORTION!!!11”. Given the general apathy/dislike for Romney among evangelicals, the Romney campaign feared such an “October Surprise” could be fatal to their campaign. In fact, of course, by late October of 2012, Romney had already lost the election.

195 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 10:45:25am

re: #162 Kragar

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I have no problem with Prisons being a hard and difficult place. Start everybody with minimal privileges and comforts, and as they earn point by taking steps to rehabilitate or at least behave in a model manner, reward them with more and more rights and small independence’s inside the system.

That being said, when the State takes the responsibility of taking away a persons freedom, they (the State) takes on a special responsibility to ensure the basic living conditions and rights that we associate with living in a civil society. Freedom from rape is sure as hell one of those.

RBS

196 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 10:45:29am

re: #185 calochortus

I would have thought getting married would have redeemed him, but perhaps they are harder on members of the flock than outsiders. My husband and I lived next door to a couple JWs before we were married. They pretty much ignored us until we got married, then they were friendly. They must have been paying attention all along to notice that we had, in fact, gotten married.

I worked with a couple girls years ago who were JWs. The older one was married with kids. She is one of the nicest people I have ever met. Her little sister however hung out with the party crowd, drinking, getting high… Her parents through her out of the family because of premarital sex. That must have a huge emotional effect on her and my b-i-l after being thrown out of the family they grew up in.

197 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:45:35am

re: #192 Romantic Heretic

It’s the word ‘social’ that troubles conservatives of all stripes. Since ‘social’ is the root word of ‘socialism’ and ‘socialism’ was the enemy of America for decades somehow ‘social’ becomes a bad thing.

Also, despite their obvious tribalism, conservatives tend to pride themselves on their individuality. ‘Social’ implies a group into which a person is ‘socialized’. They will no longer be an individual then. This also ties in with my point above.

So conservatives don’t react well to the word ‘social’. They also have rather mixed feelings about ‘justice’ for justice often feels like oppression to them.

They’re petrified of anything that may encourage the poor to get a better hand then they got. I think is really at the core at many conservatives’ opposition to socialism and communism especially in early 20th century Europe.

198 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:45:49am

re: #193 FemNaziBitch

More like he is all for female inmates getting pregnant —celebrating life and all … .

Nothing like some DNA as evidence.

199 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 10:46:13am

re: #191 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Morally, ethically? People are free to do what they please, so long as they’re not harming other people. I wouldn’t say it’s wrong in that sense, no. Remarkably stupid and a giant waste of everyone’s time, but not wrong.

200 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 10:46:23am

The contemporary face of welfare fraud.

“Millionaire” Welfare Fraud Couple Caught: Police

nbcmiami.com

“The couple was charged with milking public assistance programs, mainly in their home state of Minnesota, for more than $165,000 between January 2005 and March 2012 in that state alone.

“The criminal case against Colin Chisholm, 62, and Andrea Chisholm, 53, details a lavish lifestyle. Records show they had $3 million in various bank accounts during that period. They are also accused of receiving welfare benefits from Florida.

(snip)

“Authorities said they made a few payments on the yacht they bought while in Florida for $1.2 million, but it was repossessed by the Coast Guard.”

201 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:47:56am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

To be fair to Romney, Stericycle does a great deal more than dispose of fetuses, and and anyways its better if that grim task be done by a properly licensed, bonded, and equipped firm.

The whole Stericycle kurfluffle wasn’t really about Romney having done something wrong, it was about the prospect of evangelical voters being sent hysterical mailers right before their state’s primary or right before the general election saying “MITT ROMNEY FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED ABORTION!!!11”. Given the general apathy/dislike for Romney among evangelicals, the Romney campaign feared such an “October Surprise” could be fatal to their campaign. In fact, of course, by late October of 2012, Romney had already lost the election.

Well, I wasn’t really shaming Romney. I was criticizing the evangelical voters who oppose abortion at all times but had no problem supporting and giving money/support to a guy who actually invested in such a company. It’s like how Hobby Lobby claims that subsidizing birth control goes against their conscience but yet they have no problem investing in a contraceptive firm.

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 10:48:10am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

The contemporary face of welfare fraud.

“Millionaire” Welfare Fraud Couple Caught: Police

nbcmiami.com

“The couple was charged with milking public assistance programs, mainly in their home state of Minnesota, for more than $165,000 between January 2005 and March 2012 in that state alone.

“The criminal case against Colin Chisholm, 62, and Andrea Chisholm, 53, details a lavish lifestyle. Records show they had $3 million in various bank accounts during that period. They are also accused of receiving welfare benefits from Florida.

(snip)

“Authorities said they made a few payments on the yacht they bought while in Florida for $1.2 million, but it was repossessed by the Coast Guard.”

HURR HURR TYPICAL LIBRULS!!!!! ALL TEH WELFARE MOOCHERS IS LIKE THESE ONES!!!!!!!

203 wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2014 10:48:17am

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

I’d say its time to feed one of the hamsters to a cat, pour encourager les autres.

You Animal!

Oh, wait. Hamsters are animals too.

204 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:48:19am

This is what Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome is.

205 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:48:47am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

The contemporary face of welfare fraud.

“Millionaire” Welfare Fraud Couple Caught: Police

nbcmiami.com

“The couple was charged with milking public assistance programs, mainly in their home state of Minnesota, for more than $165,000 between January 2005 and March 2012 in that state alone.

“The criminal case against Colin Chisholm, 62, and Andrea Chisholm, 53, details a lavish lifestyle. Records show they had $3 million in various bank accounts during that period. They are also accused of receiving welfare benefits from Florida.

(snip)

“Authorities said they made a few payments on the yacht they bought while in Florida for $1.2 million, but it was repossessed by the Coast Guard.”

Unpossible. The only people who commit welfare fraud are blah people.

206 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:49:32am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

The contemporary face of welfare fraud.

“Millionaire” Welfare Fraud Couple Caught: Police

nbcmiami.com

“The couple was charged with milking public assistance programs, mainly in their home state of Minnesota, for more than $165,000 between January 2005 and March 2012 in that state alone.

“The criminal case against Colin Chisholm, 62, and Andrea Chisholm, 53, details a lavish lifestyle. Records show they had $3 million in various bank accounts during that period. They are also accused of receiving welfare benefits from Florida.

(snip)

“Authorities said they made a few payments on the yacht they bought while in Florida for $1.2 million, but it was repossessed by the Coast Guard.”

Welfare Parents?

207 calochortus  Apr 1, 2014 10:50:58am

Ah well, time to go to the grocery store.

208 Kilroy01  Apr 1, 2014 10:51:30am

Wow.. New Clothes for techie in your life!

Youtube Video

209 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 10:53:00am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Well, I wasn’t really shaming Romney. I was criticizing the evangelical voters who oppose abortion at all times but had no problem supporting and giving money/support to a guy who actually invested in such a company. It’s like how Hobby Lobby claims that subsidizing birth control goes against their conscience but yet they have no problem investing in a contraceptive firm.

Because it’s all about posturing and making a statement.

210 gwangung  Apr 1, 2014 10:54:16am

I find it interest with Park

a) how she hijacked this issue, of import to Native Americans, and made it about her and Asian Americans. That’s very….white (male) of her, given I’ve heard very little about Native concerns from her.

b) She’s in a twitter feud with other Asian American activists, all of who are older, more experienced and more accomplished than her. And it’s always THEM who are in the wrong.

c) Anybody using death threats, racists threats, etc. against her are showing their true colors (whether they SAY they’re liberal or not). That’s on THEM, not her.

211 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 10:54:42am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because it’s all about posturing and making a statement.

Sure, that doesn’t change the fact that Hobby Lobby claiming that subsidizing contraception goes against their “Christian beliefs” is a load of Grade A horseshit.

212 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 10:55:19am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Sure, that doesn’t change the fact that Hobby Lobby claiming that subsidizing contraception goes against their “Christian beliefs” is a load of Grade A horseshit.

POWER AND CONTROL and JEBUS!!!!!

213 Justanotherhuman  Apr 1, 2014 10:57:02am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Unpossible. The only people who commit welfare fraud are blah people.

Linda Taylor, Reagan’s “welfare queen” was far more evil than the thief who defrauded the state of money. This story looks at her life, including the fact that she was actually a white woman who was a terrific actress and could play many, many real life roles.

slate.com

214 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 10:58:34am

re: #210 gwangung

I find it interest with Park

a) how she hijacked this issue, of import to Native Americans, and made it about her and Asian Americans. That’s very….white (male) of her, given I’ve heard very little about Native concerns from her.

b) She’s in a twitter feud with other Asian American activists, all of who are older, more experienced and more accomplished than her. And it’s always THEM who are in the wrong.

c) Anybody using death threats, racists threats, etc. against her are showing their true colors (whether they SAY they’re liberal or not). That’s on THEM, not her.

SJWs do not care about the issues. They merely use the issues as platforms from which to enhance themselves.

215 CuriousLurker  Apr 1, 2014 10:58:43am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Two words I never thought I’d ever see in the same sentence that’s for sure.

I’ve seen grown women sigh over OBL as being “handsome”, like teeny boppers squealing over the latest Tiger Beat heartthrob. I thought it was disgusting and didn’t understand how anyone could separate the man from what he’d done.

I say it’s incomprehensible, but then I remember how often I’ve heard about serial killers & such having female fans who write to them & want to marry them, so I guess it’s not all that surprising when you think about it. It’s certainly not indicative of someone capable of healthy relationships though, IMO.

216 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 10:59:07am

Ted Cruz pwn3d Teh Twitters with his lame fake tattoo.

217 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:00:23am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

Ted Cruz pwn3d Teh Twitters with his lame fake tattoo.

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Nothing more lame than a 40+ year old man showing off a fake tattoo. I guess this is more of that Republican youth outreach.

218 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:02:30am

re: #215 CuriousLurker

I’ve seen grown women sigh over OBL as being “handsome”, like teeny boppers squealing over the latest Tiger Beat heartthrob. I thought it was disgusting and didn’t understand how anyone could separate the man from what he’d done.

I say it’s incomprehensible, but then I remember how often I’ve heard about serial killers & such having female fans who write to them & want to marry them, so I guess it’s not all that surprising when you think about it. It’s certainly not indicative of someone capable of healthy relationships though, IMO.

Bundy even had a child with one of his admirers. I’m amused though about OBL since nearly all the women I know hate beards. Couldn’t even get some slack for having a winter one here.

219 darthstar  Apr 1, 2014 11:02:45am
220 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 11:03:03am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Nothing more lame than a 40+ year old man showing off a fake tattoo. I guess this is more of that Republican youth outreach.

Youtube Video

221 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:03:04am

Is this true?

222 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:03:10am
223 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 11:03:21am

re: #214 GunstarGreen

SJWs do not care about the issues. They merely use the issues as platforms from which to enhance themselves.

Exactly. Posers strike their poses on issues in order to attract attention to themselves, not to actually address the issue.

224 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Apr 1, 2014 11:03:27am

I’m in the minority here, clearly, but I think that Colbert’s satire was cringeworthy. I don’t think one needs to continue to disseminate racial stereotypes when doing a send up of racists. I’m not sure why it is that her point is so difficult to understand. But it appears to be. I have to say I’m a little disappointed.

225 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:03:45am

re: #220 GunstarGreen

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It’s worse than my mother saying that she’s just trying to “keep it real”.

226 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:04:15am

re: #215 CuriousLurker

I’ve seen grown women sigh over OBL as being “handsome”, like teeny boppers squealing over the latest Tiger Beat heartthrob. I thought it was disgusting and didn’t understand how anyone could separate the man from what he’d done.

I say it’s incomprehensible, but then I remember how often I’ve heard about serial killers & such having female fans who write to them & want to marry them, so I guess it’s not all that surprising when you think about it. It’s certainly not indicative of someone capable of healthy relationships though, IMO.

Drew Peterson …

eckewe!

227 lawhawk  Apr 1, 2014 11:04:49am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

Fake tattoo? Really? That’s what he thinks will help sway votes? What’s next piercings?

Doesn’t the Old Testament prohibit tattooing and piercings (Lev. 19:28)? So I guess that’s another passage that they’ll conveniently ignore when they claim to be good Christians….

228 darthstar  Apr 1, 2014 11:04:51am
229 GunstarGreen  Apr 1, 2014 11:05:56am

re: #221 FemNaziBitch

Is this true?

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I highly doubt it. Especially seeing as “shifting from thinking to feeling” smacks of meaningless word salad in the first place. None of that is well-defined.

230 CuriousLurker  Apr 1, 2014 11:06:05am

re: #226 FemNaziBitch

Drew Peterson …

eckewe!

Oh man, I’d forgotten about that guy—100x eckewe!

231 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:07:05am

Wingnut Gun-Fucking Meme Of The Day
(Is she about to shoot herself in the face or what?)

232 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:07:05am

Kirk Cameron: Back to Atheism Thanks to Bruised Banana

Oy Vey

233 Kragar  Apr 1, 2014 11:07:16am
234 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:08:13am

re: #227 lawhawk

Fake tattoo? Really? That’s what he thinks will help sway votes? What’s next piercings?

Doesn’t the Old Testament prohibit tattooing and piercings (Lev. 19:28)? So I guess that’s another passage that they’ll conveniently ignore when they claim to be good Christians….

Yes, it does. I’ve seen on sites like Lamebook where homophobes will get tattooed the anti-gay passage from Levitcus and someone will always respond that Levitcus also forbids tattoos.

235 darthstar  Apr 1, 2014 11:08:42am
236 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:09:02am

re: #231 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnut Gun-Fucking Meme Of The Day
(Is she about to shoot herself in the face or what?)

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They don’t call it gunfucking for nothing and yeah it does look like she’s about to shoot herself. Gun porn is so stupid.

237 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:09:34am

re: #228 darthstar

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Ownage.

238 klys  Apr 1, 2014 11:09:40am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

They don’t call it gunfucking for nothing and yeah it does look like she’s about to shoot herself. Gun porn is so stupid.

I don’t think she has enough eyeliner on. She needs some more.

239 CuriousLurker  Apr 1, 2014 11:10:05am

re: #232 FemNaziBitch

Kirk Cameron: Back to Atheism Thanks to Bruised Banana

Oy Vey

LOL, I forgot it’s April Fools’ Day.

240 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:10:31am
241 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 11:10:43am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

They don’t call it gunfucking for nothing and yeah it does look like she’s about to shoot herself. Gun porn is so stupid.

It has about as much to do with real-life guns as porn does with real-life sex.

Except for the “money shots”…

242 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:11:31am

Please tell Glenn to check the date on his new “Journalism” award.

243 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:11:48am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It has about as much to do with real-life guns as porn does with real-life sex.

Except for the “money shots”…

True but at least regular porn isn’t full with self-righteous bullshit.

244 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:12:34am

re: #233 Kragar

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I really wish his kids would just do us all a favor and put Pat in a home.

245 Stoatly  Apr 1, 2014 11:13:08am

When it goes right you don’t think about the people behind street markings

When it goes wrong…

You might wonder about the process involved:
Vimeo

(From here)

246 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 11:14:09am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

To be fair to Romney, Stericycle does a great deal more than dispose of fetuses, and and anyways its better if that grim task be done by a properly licensed, bonded, and equipped firm.

The whole Stericycle kurfluffle wasn’t really about Romney having done something wrong, it was about the prospect of evangelical voters being sent hysterical mailers right before their state’s primary or right before the general election saying “MITT ROMNEY FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED ABORTION!!!11”. Given the general apathy/dislike for Romney among evangelicals, the Romney campaign feared such an “October Surprise” could be fatal to their campaign. In fact, of course, by late October of 2012, Romney had already lost the election.

It’s kind of hard to be fair to Romney when he (and many Republicans) are not fair about their stance on abortion and birth control. You are asking for us to excuse him by splitting hairs. Yet, Republican have no problem casting ALL abortion and Birth Control as The Evil even if the abortion is due to rape or medical reasons and the birth control is for women’s health and to regulate systems, etc.

Sorry Dark. No nuance for Romney. He is in fact a two-faced politician. The whole thing goes to show how its all politics and money and real human concerns get left out in both cases.

247 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:17:03am

re: #246 ObserverArt

It’s kind of hard to be fair to Romney when he (and many Republicans) are not fair about their stance on abortion and birth control. You are asking for us to excuse him by splitting hairs. Yet, Republican have no problem casting ALL abortion and Birth Control as The Evil even if the abortion is due to rape or medical reasons and the birth control is for women’s health and to regulate systems, etc.

Sorry Dark. No nuance for Romney. He is in fact a two-faced politician. The whole thing goes to show how its all politics and money and real human concerns get left out in both cases.

The thing that pisses me off about Romney re:abortion is he knows better than your average politician how dangerous it is to have abortion illegal. His own aunt I believe died of a botched abortion before abortion was legal. He himself was politically pro-choice before he decided to reinvent himself as right wing Mitt. But as I said, my slam was more on Romney’s supporters who had no problem supporting such a man than Romney himself. Sort of like the people who cheer on HL for “standing up for their religious freedom” all the while HL invests in contraception.

248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 11:17:23am

re: #246 ObserverArt

Sorry Dark. No nuance for Romney. He is in fact a two-faced politician. The whole thing goes to show how its all politics and money and real human concerns get left out in both cases.

“All Ye Who Enter Here Abandon Nuance”

-Sign above the entrance to the GOP tent.

249 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:18:32am

re: #229 GunstarGreen

I highly doubt it. Especially seeing as “shifting from thinking to feeling” smacks of meaningless word salad in the first place. None of that is well-defined.

I know men process signals between the hemispheres at a slower rate than do women, that’s why women can multitask better. I’m not sure how that relates to emotions vs. thoughts/actions.

I have noticed it seems to be difficult for men to switch from one topic to another quickly. Like, if I ask my husband a question while he is involved in an activity, it frustrates him.

250 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 11:18:42am

re: #195 RealityBasedSteve

I have no problem with Prisons being a hard and difficult place. Start everybody with minimal privileges and comforts, and as they earn point by taking steps to rehabilitate or at least behave in a model manner, reward them with more and more rights and small independence’s inside the system.

That being said, when the State takes the responsibility of taking away a persons freedom, they (the State) takes on a special responsibility to ensure the basic living conditions and rights that we associate with living in a civil society. Freedom from rape is sure as hell one of those.

RBS

Good comment. Problem is there are those that think a prisoner has given up all their rights and therefore anything that happens to them is their own fault for being in the prison in the first place.

And, it again shows how a Republican can be all concerned about abortion but once a person is born, well…good luck, you’re on your own. Screw up and we will kill you…states rights.

251 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:19:07am

re: #227 lawhawk

Fake tattoo? Really? That’s what he thinks will help sway votes? What’s next piercings?

Doesn’t the Old Testament prohibit tattooing and piercings (Lev. 19:28)? So I guess that’s another passage that they’ll conveniently ignore when they claim to be good Christians….

I’ve seen more bible cherry-pickin’s today on twitter than ever before.

252 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:21:08am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Good comment. Problem is there are those that think a prisoner has given up all their rights and therefore anything that happens to them is their own fault for being in the prison in the first place.

And, it again shows how a Republican can be all concerned about abortion but once a person is born, well…good luck, you’re on your own. Screw up and we will kill you…states rights.

Protect life they say but they’ve never met a cut to education, health care, etc that they haven’t liked.

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:22:25am

WTFITS

254 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 11:24:49am

Yeah, I see some people are upset about that but I don’t expect him to become a champion of free speech (note: not synonymous with the 1st Amendment). He’s a comedian on a network with corporate ties. He wants to keep his job, I can’t fault him for that.

255 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 11:26:10am

re: #251 FemNaziBitch

I’ve seen more bible cherry-pickin’s today on twitter than ever before.

So, I guess me enjoying this great cheeseburger with a side of lobster salad, while sporting a cool linen-cotton shirt, and still smarting a bit from the Van Dyke I got on the Sabbath totally puts me over the limit?

RBS

256 Bulworth  Apr 1, 2014 11:26:44am

re: #253 Pie-onist Overlord

The amendment is aimed at Nashville’s proposed $174 million rapid bus system called the Amp, but would apply to any mass transit system proposed in Tennessee’s cities.

Moar carz, moar traffic, = freedoms and prosperity.

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257 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:26:58am

Michele Bachmann’s Reelection Campaign Is Nonexistent, But Her PAC Lives On

The leadership PAC — which Bachmann claims works to elect like-minded conservatives to Congress — was engulfed in campaign finance violation accusations in 2013. The House Ethics Committee decided to continue its investigation of Bachmann’s 2012 presidential campaign in September of that year.

258 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 11:27:13am

re: #254 Killgore Trout

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Yeah, I see some people are upset about that but I don’t expect him to become a champion of free speech (note: not synonymous with the 1st Amendment). He’s a comedian on a network with corporate ties. He wants to keep his job, I can’t fault him for that.

Posting the tweet without reference to the joke/satirical point he was making was a very bad idea…

259 Kragar  Apr 1, 2014 11:27:33am

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) said this week that the constitutional separation between church and state was meant to be a “one-way wall” where the “church plays a role in the state.”

In a World Net Daily-sponsored promotion for an upcoming Christian TV event called “Washington - A Man of Prayer,” Gohmert recalled that the U.S. House of Representatives once met in what is now known as National Statuary Hall.

“On Sundays this became the largest non-denominational Christian church in the Washington, D.C. area,” he explained. “People came in here and prayed, they sang hymns, they worshipped God. It was part of our history.”

I’m so fucking tired of this stupid ass shit

260 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:27:34am

re: #255 RealityBasedSteve

So, I guess me enjoying this great cheeseburger with a side of lobster salad, while sporting a cool linen-cotton shirt, and still smarting a bit from the Van Dyke I got on the Sabbath totally puts me over the limit?

RBS

Depends on who is interpreting the text.

261 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:28:35am

re: #259 Kragar

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I’m so fucking tired of this stupid ass shit

I am too. But i’m even more tired of people like him easily getting re-elected.

262 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:28:43am

You know, I’ve shot a gun before.

I didn’t in the most remote parts of my brain/body get a rush from it.

263 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 1, 2014 11:29:03am

re: #260 FemNaziBitch

Depends on who is interpreting the text.

Damn…. just got ketchup on my shirt. You got a Tide cleaning pen?

RBS

264 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:29:29am

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

You know, I’ve shot a gun before.

I didn’t in the most remote parts of my brain/body get a rush from it.

You’re not a Gun Fucker.

265 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:29:36am

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

You know, I’ve shot a gun before.

I didn’t in the most remote parts of my brain/body get a rush from it.

Didn’t do much for me either. I mean, it was neat but I got a much bigger adrenaline rush from the time I went gambling on the same trick.

266 Dark_Falcon  Apr 1, 2014 11:31:14am

re: #253 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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What it is is an overwrought attack from ThinkProgress:

On Thursday, the Tennessee Senate passed SB 2243, which includes an amendment that “prohibits metropolitan governments and any transit authorities created by a metropolitan government from constructing, maintaining or operating any bus rapid transit system using a separate lane, or other separate right-of-way, dedicated solely to the use of such bus rapid transit system on any state highway or state highway [sic].” The amendment is aimed at Nashville’s proposed $174 million rapid bus system called the Amp, but would apply to any mass transit system proposed in Tennessee’s cities.

The Amp, a proposed 7.1-mile bus rapid transit system that would cut commute times along one of Nashville’s major corridors, has been staunchly opposed by the Tennessee branch of Americans for Prosperity, a lobbying organization founded in part by the Koch brothers. AFP’s Tennessee director told the Tennessean that SB 2243 was the result of a conversation he’d had with the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Jim Tracy. In addition, AFP pushed the Senate to vote on the bill — efforts that led to stopamp.org, one of the lead groups opposing the Amp, thanking AFP in a press release after SB 2243 passed the Senate. The transit system’s opponents say it would create traffic problems and safety issues due to its middle-lane location, a claim that a spokesman for the Amp Coalition disputes.

Given the doubled use of the phrase “state highway”, I think TP got that part of the quote wring but the gist is clear. What the bill is against is not mass transit more broadly (such as a commuter rail system) but against creating dedicated bus lanes for use only by mass transit buses. Creating dedicated bus lanes means either closing lanes off for other traffic or building new lanes at great expense.

To oppose dedicated bus lanes is not a sinister act.

267 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:32:23am

re: #263 RealityBasedSteve

Damn…. just got ketchup on my shirt. You got a Tide cleaning pen?

RBS

Natural Consequences —live with it.

268 Mattand  Apr 1, 2014 11:33:03am

re: #254 Killgore Trout

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Yeah, I see some people are upset about that but I don’t expect him to become a champion of free speech (note: not synonymous with the 1st Amendment). He’s a comedian on a network with corporate ties. He wants to keep his job, I can’t fault him for that.

Colbert Declares Victory Over Twitter Activists: ‘Dark Forces’ Thwarted

Per Colbert:

“To recap, a web editor I’ve never met posts a tweet in my name on an account I don’t control, outrages a hashtag activist and the news media gets 72 hours of content,” he concluded. “The system worked.”

269 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 11:34:10am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Posting the tweet without reference to the joke/satirical point he was making was a very bad idea…

I don’t think it makes much difference. People determined to be outraged are always going to find an excuse, nothing can be done to prevent it. As long as the occasional outrage works in getting people fired or forcing apologies people will fear for their jobs but no amount of caution will stop it.

270 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 1, 2014 11:34:53am

re: #268 Mattand

Colbert Declares Victory Over Twitter Activists: ‘Dark Forces’ Thwarted

Per Colbert:

This is actually Colbert getting more, not less, control over his speech.

Nifty.

271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 1, 2014 11:36:07am

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

You know, I’ve shot a gun before.

I didn’t in the most remote parts of my brain/body get a rush from it.

some people feel that way about sex…

272 FemNaziBitch  Apr 1, 2014 11:36:22am
273 CuriousLurker  Apr 1, 2014 11:36:33am

Retweet via @Gus_802:

274 HappyWarrior  Apr 1, 2014 11:38:45am

re: #273 CuriousLurker

Retweet via @Gus_802:

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Seems to me that this is a classic no win situation.

275 Killgore Trout  Apr 1, 2014 11:41:49am

re: #273 CuriousLurker

Retweet via @Gus_802:

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As they should. It’s an embarrassingly stupid idea.

276 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 1, 2014 11:42:02am

re: #269 Killgore Trout

I don’t think it makes much difference. People determined to be outraged are always going to find an excuse, nothing can be done to prevent it. As long as the occasional outrage works in getting people fired or forcing apologies people will fear for their jobs but no amount of caution will stop it.

Outrage should take a day off today…

277 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 11:43:21am

The House of Representatives Committee on Science is turning into a national embarrassment

“…The Republican members of the committee made it clear that not only do they lack the slightest interest in addressing climate change but they are about as ignorant about the nuances of science as a stone. Leading the charge was Texas congressman Randy Weber:

Several members, for example, appeared to be trying to mock rather than engage Holdren on climate change. “I may want to get your cellphone number, Dr. Holdren,” said Representative Randy Weber (R-TX), “because, if we go through another few cycles of global warming and cooling, I may need to ask you when I should buy my long coat on sale.”

278 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 1, 2014 11:43:27am

Some wingnut claiming to be a movie producer doing a horror film about Kermit Gosnell is really fleecing the rubes on #tcot.

Something tells me they’ll fall “just short” of being able to make an actual movie but they’ll keep all Teh Moneys.

279 Kragar  Apr 1, 2014 11:44:14am

re: #278 Pie-onist Overlord

Some wingnut claiming to be a movie producer doing a horror film about Kermit Gosnell is really fleecing the rubes on #tcot.

Something tells me they’ll fall “just short” of being able to make an actual movie but they’ll keep all Teh Moneys.

I’m strangely comfortable with that scenario.

280 ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2014 11:44:19am

re: #224 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)

I’m in the minority here, clearly, but I think that Colbert’s satire was cringeworthy. I don’t think one needs to continue to disseminate racial stereotypes when doing a send up of racists. I’m not sure why it is that her point is so difficult to understand. But it appears to be. I have to say I’m a little disappointed.

Isn’t Colbert as a satirist comedian being lost in all of this? All he did was use a stereotype to make a point. Cringe worthy…yes as it should be and I should think he had that very thing in mind when he did it. Good comedy should cause some cringing.

And her point was lost too, the minute she made her comment about liberal white males. That shows she is really no different. She is NOT know for being a satirists, so what is her point for calling out another group?

Still…where is the concern for the whole thing that set it off. That would be Dan Snyder dancing around changing the damn team name. I see no one here addressing the original point.

281 sagehen  Apr 1, 2014 11:44:37am

re: #254 Killgore Trout

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Yeah, I see some people are upset about that but I don’t expect him to become a champion of free speech (note: not synonymous with the 1st Amendment). He’s a comedian on a network with corporate ties. He wants to keep his job, I can’t fault him for that.

The account that got closed was ComedyCentral’s — Colbert’s twitter is @stephenathome.

282 klys  Apr 1, 2014 11:45:45am

re: #277 jaunte

The House of Representatives Committee on Science is turning into a national embarrassment

I’d comment, but that might be taken as expressing outrage.

283 jaunte  Apr 1, 2014 11:46:17am

re: #282 klys

It’s ok, it was from March 31.

284 Mattand  Apr 1, 2014 11:55:54am

re: #282 klys

I’d comment, but that might be taken as expressing outrage.

No more outrageous than saying water is wet.

285 lawhawk  Apr 1, 2014 11:57:24am

Every few years, Pollard’s name comes up, and it goes nowhere. Everyone will retread the same worn space and arguments, and Pollard deservedly continues to sit in prison for his crimes.

It’s not likely to go beyond this talking stage because there’s no deal to be had. What kind of Palestinian-Israeli talks are there when Hamas isn’t at the table? You know, the terror group that operates out of Gaza and which tossed Fatah from power there?

We’re not talking about a 2-state solution then, but a 3-state solution involving two separate Palestinian entities.

My ongoing thesis about ME peace process is that you don’t get peace without both parties wanting it, and you’re not going to get meaningful deals unless they’re hashed out between the parties in private (backchannels). That’s how it has happened before, and it’s not in the cards with the current efforts because it appears to be more about Obama doing the Presidential legacy burnishing dance that all presidents do in their 2d terms.

286 makeitstop  Apr 1, 2014 12:03:21pm

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Posting the tweet without reference to the joke/satirical point he was making was a very bad idea…

I believe he’s on the record as saying it wasn’t his account.

287 gwangung  Apr 1, 2014 12:15:38pm

re: #280 ObserverArt

Isn’t Colbert as a satirist comedian being lost in all of this? All he did was use a stereotype to make a point. Cringe worthy…yes as it should be and I should think he had that very thing in mind when he did it. Good comedy should cause some cringing.

And her point was lost too, the minute she made her comment about liberal white males. That shows she is really no different. She is NOT know for being a satirists, so what is her point for calling out another group?

Still…where is the concern for the whole thing that set it off. That would be Dan Snyder dancing around changing the damn team name. I see no one here addressing the original point.

The point about not using racist images to be anti racist has some validity, but it’s not one I agree with. Satire is a good way to SHOW how disgusting and stupid racism is, and not just TELLING it. Show is better than Tell in the arts world.

And, yes, Park is not particularly apologetic about hijacking the focus away from Native Americans.

288 CuriousLurker  Apr 1, 2014 1:57:29pm

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Seems to me that this is a classic no win situation.

Yeah. From the article:

It was reported Tuesday that a deal was near and would include Israel releasing additional Palestinian prisoners as well as a partial halt to construction of settlements in the West Bank.

It just sounds like more of the SOS to me. I don’t see any of those things helping the peace process. IMO, there’s too much water under the bridge—the hatreds and resentments have built up over generations now, so even if there was never another settlement built by Israelis or rocket launched by Palestinians, there would still be crippling distrust & bitterness.

289 Roger S  Apr 1, 2014 6:49:42pm

As an anti-racist I agree with many of here points and understand that she’s fed up with the patronizing prejudice Asians and other races face. She just did not understand Colbert’s humor. And doesn’t really seem to have much of a sense of humor. I’m glad this went nowhere but I hope she focuses on real issues in the future. The Aussie interviewer was a real condescending jerk to her.


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