NPR Tiny Desk Concert: The Haden Triplets

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Petra, Rachel and Tanya Haden are three sisters in love with the art of singing. Born in 1971 to a famous musical father (Charlie Haden is a world-class upright jazz bassist), they’ve separately taken on vastly different music projects. You may have heard Petra with The Decemberists or tackling the music of The Who a cappella. Tanya plays in Let’s Go Sailing, while Rachel sometimes turns up with The Rentals and other projects.

Together, they have a common love for American country and traditional songs, and that’s what brought me to them and them to the Tiny Desk. Their new self-titled record is filled with what first made country music grand: songs by The Carter Family, Kitty Wells, Bill Monroe and many others. It’s produced by Ry Cooder, an American legend, terrific slide guitarist and lover of all types of traditional music.

At the Tiny Desk, you’ll hear the traditional tone and effortless voices that only siblings can produce. It’s a treat and a trip in time. —BOB BOILEN

Set List

“Single Girl, Married Girl”
“Voice From On High”
“Slowly”
“Tiny Broken Heart”

Credits

Producers: Bob Boilen, Denise DeBelius; Audio Engineer: Kevin Wait; Videographers: Denise DeBelius, Gabriella Garcia-Pardo, Olivia Merrion; photo by Jim Tuttle/NPR

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448 comments

1 Floral Giraffe  Apr 2, 2014 9:00:48pm

Awesome, thank you for exposing them to me!

2 FemNaziBitch  Apr 2, 2014 9:00:49pm
3 FemNaziBitch  Apr 2, 2014 9:05:33pm
4 FemNaziBitch  Apr 2, 2014 9:07:04pm
5 FemNaziBitch  Apr 2, 2014 9:07:10pm

nytol

6 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:09:49pm
7 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:13:37pm
8 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:15:24pm
9 Killgore Trout  Apr 2, 2014 9:15:48pm

re: #6 Gus

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I’m a bit confused. We don’t know the motivation yet but it’s entirely possible that is was related to his mental state. Are people objecting to this being reported?

10 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:18:00pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

I’m a bit confused. We don’t know the motivation yet but it’s entirely possible that is was related to his mental state. Are people objecting to this being reported?

I report. You decide.

11 DKoch  Apr 2, 2014 9:27:42pm
“I want to be very careful about this, because people get very sensitive when you say these things. I was told by one of these sources who is a law enforcement official that this is a dark-skinned male.” ~ John King on Boston Bombing.

Turned out assailants were caucasian (literally).

12 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:27:44pm
13 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 2, 2014 9:29:58pm

re: #6 Gus

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People with PTSD—and nearly every other mental illness—do have increased risk of being murdered or assaulted, however.

14 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:35:47pm

15 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:36:43pm

Do you see what I see!

*Not the song.

16 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:37:38pm
17 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:38:54pm

Voila…

18 Interesting Times  Apr 2, 2014 9:39:40pm

re: #15 Gus

Do you see what I see!

The same image used in the dKos banner. Is that some kind of sick joke, or are they really that stupid?

19 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:40:09pm

re: #18 Interesting Times

The same image used in the dKos banner. Is that some kind of sick joke, or are they really that stupid?

Probably an inside joke.

20 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 9:40:20pm

Although ya’ never know.

21 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2014 9:40:33pm

Lol, ‘free debate’.

22 Aqua Obama  Apr 2, 2014 9:42:39pm

Where We Went Wrong Buying a Bitcoin from an ATM

Buying the Bitcoin from the Robocoin ATM was at least a straightforward process. It happened like you saw in the video—I had to create an account with the Bitcoin Agents through the Robocoin machine, giving it my telephone number (for SMS verification), creating a PIN, scanning my palm, letting it take my photo, and then also scan a copy of my driver’s license. That’s a whole lot of personal information, which in retrospect was pretty stupid of me. Bitcoin Agents holds on to that identification data to comply with government anti-money laundering laws, but there’s no promise that they can’t be hacked or won’t use that information for suspect ventures in the future. Anecdotally, my identity hasn’t be stolen yet, but I have received on average one strange telemarketing call a week since signing up for Robocoin—the first of which was from an adult chat service just hours after giving the Robocoin machine my phone number.

There’s also the matter of the transaction fee, which for one Bitcoin (~$617 at time of purchase) was $38, or over 6%.

Can you feeeeeeeel the FREEDOM

23 GeneJockey  Apr 2, 2014 10:03:14pm

Hey, is the site buggered or something? I’m arguing pointlessly with Obdi on another thread, and it’s taking AGES for my charmingly snarky replies to post.

24 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 10:04:10pm

re: #23 GeneJockey

Hey, is the site buggered or something? I’m arguing pointlessly with Obdi on another thread, and it’s taking AGES for my charmingly snarky replies to post.

Yeah, same here.

25 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2014 10:04:15pm

re: #22 Aqua Obama

Charles Ponzi would be proud of Bitcoin.

26 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2014 10:04:22pm

re: #23 GeneJockey

Hey, is the site buggered or something? I’m arguing pointlessly with Obdi on another thread, and it’s taking AGES for my charmingly snarky replies to post.

Same.

27 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2014 10:05:40pm

Must watch. AC/DC’s Thunderstruck in cello.

Youtube Video

28 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 2, 2014 10:06:15pm

re: #26 Varek Raith

Same.

Why are you all arguing pointlessly with Obdicut?

29 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2014 10:06:38pm

Must watch. AC/DC’s Thunderstruck in cello.

Youtube Video

30 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2014 10:09:52pm

re: #28 Feline Fearless Leader

Why are you all arguing pointlessly with Obdicut?

Because it’s fun.
;)

31 Chrysicat  Apr 2, 2014 10:10:33pm
32 Chrysicat  Apr 2, 2014 10:14:50pm

re: #14 Gus

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“All I believe in is a society where everyone’s political power is equal to their wealth! If you want to advance your stupid Green Party shit, find some rich hairshirters to pay to get candidates who agree with it elected!”

33 Chrysicat  Apr 2, 2014 10:15:52pm

re: #21 Varek Raith

Lol, ‘free debate’.

From a man who believes the cost of entry into a debate should be half a mil, yet.

34 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2014 10:23:01pm

Hard thunderstorm pushing through. Woke me up, so now I’m watching a back episode of Top Gear and eating an apple. Such a life.

RBS

35 Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2014 10:23:18pm
36 Chrysicat  Apr 2, 2014 10:25:44pm

re: #35 Amory Blaine

Not creepy at all.

Maaaaan, that guy needs laser bad. Either that or grow out that beard. Never good when you can be fresh-shaved and have such obvious follicles.

37 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2014 10:26:41pm

re: #35 Amory Blaine

Not creepy at all.

For some bizarre reason, that’s exactly what I imagine Gus looks like.

RBS

38 GeneJockey  Apr 2, 2014 10:26:41pm

re: #36 Chrysicat

Maaaaan, that guy needs laser bad. Either that or grow out that beard. Never good when you can be fresh-shaved and have such obvious follicles.

Maybe they need to map somebody else’s skin onto him.

39 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 10:34:30pm

re: #37 RealityBasedSteve

For some bizarre reason, that’s exactly what I imagine Gus looks like.

RBS

Hey! Nope.

40 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 10:49:32pm
41 Chrysicat  Apr 2, 2014 10:54:59pm

re: #40 Gus

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OK, are you actually endorsing authoritarianism with that repost, or is there some other reason you put it here?

42 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 10:56:42pm

re: #41 Chrysicat

OK, are you actually endorsing authoritarianism with that repost, or is there some other reason you put it here?

I think it’s awesome.

43 Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2014 11:01:55pm

He plagiarized Jack Nicholson!!

44 Gus  Apr 2, 2014 11:04:49pm

re: #43 Amory Blaine

He plagiarized Jack Nicholson!!

It’s a misquote apparently.

45 kirkspencer  Apr 2, 2014 11:24:50pm

re: #44 Gus

It’s a misquote apparently.

Probably.

46 Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2014 11:31:35pm
47 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 12:09:49am

Since nobody is around, I’m going to re-arrange the furniture in the thread, and watch people hit their shins on the coffee table when they wander in later on.

RBS

48 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 12:15:17am

re: #47 RealityBasedSteve

Since nobody is around, I’m going to re-arrange the furniture in the thread, and watch people hit their shins on the coffee table when they wander in later on.

RBS

I won’t tell. But be careful. Someone might get hurt. And these lizards are a very litigious bunch.

49 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 12:18:45am

the storm has passed, and I’m going to go back to bed. Later Gators.

RBS

50 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 12:30:36am

51 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 12:33:22am
52 Single-handed sailor  Apr 3, 2014 12:33:34am

We passed 11” of rain for our rainy season this year in the east SF bay area. That’s about 50% of normal. Unfortunately most of it was warm rain so snow below 7,000 feet elevation is pretty bad. Snow pack is probably still only 30% of normal.

53 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 1:01:43am
54 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 1:02:15am
55 freetoken  Apr 3, 2014 1:23:06am
56 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 1:36:40am
57 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 1:36:54am
58 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 1:43:17am

Later.

59 freetoken  Apr 3, 2014 2:15:10am
60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 2:49:11am

flatline thread, back on the FT drip…

61 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 3:24:03am

I hope today is better than yesterday.

Another major earthquake hit Iquique Chile the day after an 8.2.

earthquake.usgs.gov

62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 3:27:21am

re: #61 Justanotherhuman

I hope today is better than yesterday.

Another major earthquake hit Iquique Chile the day after an 8.2.

earthquake.usgs.gov

There were “Could another Earthquake Hit Chile?” headlines after the last one, which I initially wrote off as sensationalist journalism, but this seems to be founded.

63 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 3:30:03am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There were “Could another Earthquake Hit Chile?” headlines after the last one, which I initially wrote off as sensationalist journalism, but this seems to be founded.

That fault has been very active in the last month. I recall commenting on it earlier in March when Peru got hit with minor quakes.

64 freetoken  Apr 3, 2014 3:48:41am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There are always after quakes. Plus, the coast of Chile is one of the most seismically active places on the planet.

65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 3:49:38am

re: #64 freetoken

There are always after quakes. Plus, the coast of Chile is one of the most seismically active places on the planet.

And I assume God is particularly upset with Chileans for ousting Pinochet or something…

66 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 3:51:49am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And I assume God is particularly upset with Chileans for ousting Pinochet or something…

No, no! See the section that keeps getting hit? HE would be so much happier if that were back in Bolivian hands already!
/

67 freetoken  Apr 3, 2014 3:54:30am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And I assume God is particularly upset with Chileans for ousting Pinochet or something…

Pinochet says God will forgive rights abuses

68 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:10:06am

Update: Gas leaks with trees on homes and power outages reported after radar-indicated confirmed tornado in University City, Mo. - @KMOVWeather via @stormchaser4850
see original on twitter.com

69 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:14:37am

Hahaha, Joe Scarborough just admitted he likes the Roberts decision because he doesn’t mind being some big donor’s whore.

70 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 4:25:21am

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

Hahaha, Joe Scarborough just admitted he likes the Roberts decision because he doesn’t mind being some big donor’s whore.

I would like to see a voter boycott of any and all candidates who do not publicly list their donors…just because it is not mandatory does not mean it is not possible…

71 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:25:51am

Imagine having to live on $100/mo—this is slave labor, anywhere in the world.

Scores fall sick in mass faintings at Cambodian factories

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Scores of garment workers have fallen sick this week at factories in Cambodia including two that produce clothing for sportswear giants Puma SE and Adidas, police and workers said on Thursday.

“A total of 118 employees passed out at work on Thursday at the Shen Zhou and Daqian Textile factories in Phnom Penh, police said, another blow for an industry fraught with disputes but critical to Cambodia’s fledgling economy.

“Puma and Adidas said they were investigating the faintings at the two factories and would respond soon.” More

For name brand shoes that cost a lot of money, someone is making huge profits of these folks. Not from me, though. The Filas I bought last month cost $25 and original MSRP was $80.

72 Dr. Matt  Apr 3, 2014 4:27:34am

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

Dead Intern Scarborough will shit bricks the moment any democrat takes advantage of this new ruling. Just wait….

73 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 4:29:39am

re: #45 kirkspencer

Probably.

Wow. The quality of analysis on that quote-checker site was impressive. If it is their standard, then that’s a real resource.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2014 4:30:12am

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

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My favorite pet peeve would be:
10. “It isn’t clear” = nobody knows.

I hate that.

75 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 4:47:07am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Wow. The quality of analysis on that quote-checker site was impressive. If it is their standard, then that’s a real resource.

Awesome. Bookmarked & followed.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 4:49:28am

I’m surprised Quote Investigator doesn’t mention all the bogus George Washington quotes that are so popular amongst the wingnuts, but there is mountvernon.org for that.

77 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 4:55:12am

Just heard back from the company I did a follow-up interview with last week for a research analyst position. They want to meet me on site next week! This would be my third (and hopefully final) interview for the gig.

*Snoopy dance*

This has made my day and it’s not even 7am. :D

78 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 4:55:56am

re: #71 Justanotherhuman

As Chinese wages and production costs are rising, some industries are moving to areas with even lower wages, such as Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

I hate to burst your bubble, but your Filas probably cost less than $10 to manufacture.

79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 4:57:12am

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi

As Chinese wages and production costs are rising, some industries are moving to areas with even lower wages, such as Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

I hate to burst your bubble, but your Filas probably cost less than $10 to manufacture.

Are there politicians in China campaigning against exporting jobs?

80 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 4:57:28am

re: #77 Lidane

Just heard back from the company I did a follow-up interview with last week for a research analyst position. They want to meet me on site next week! This would be my third (and hopefully final) interview for the gig.

*Snoopy dance*

This has made my day and it’s not even 7am. :D

Plenty of time for the day to turn to crap.

(Congrats)

81 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 4:59:50am

re: #77 Lidane

Just heard back from the company I did a follow-up interview with last week for a research analyst position. They want to meet me on site next week! This would be my third (and hopefully final) interview for the gig.

*Snoopy dance*

This has made my day and it’s not even 7am. :D

YAYY!!!!

82 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 5:00:36am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Plenty of time for the day to turn to crap.

(Congrats)

Haha, true. I’m going to stay positive though. Having all these interviews lately makes me feel like this will all be over soon.

83 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:00:54am

Good morning lizards!

84 A Mom Anon  Apr 3, 2014 5:02:26am

You know, after the Sandy Hook shooting, my kid got hate mail from an asshole at his high school calling him a retard and a murderer. Because this idiot kid saw all the publicity about autism/Asperger’s regarding Adam Lanza. Because the media fucking sucks and no one could be bothered to do some research. In metro Atlanta, there’s no excuse, we have the Marcus Center, which is devoted (though IMO, somewhat haphazardly) to autism education, research and programs for little kids on the spectrum. It would have taken some asinine reporter a couple of minute to make a phone call and find someone to go on the record. But nooo, they waited for a LONG time before they bothered. I only found out about this a couple weeks ago when The No Longer a Teenager told me about it. People suck, and so do their rotten kids.

Now they’re going off the edge with PTSD talk. I hate to break it to the “media” but a LOT of people have PTSD, not just soldiers. Survivors of rape, domestic violence, armed robberies, assaults, people who lose their homes in fires and floods and tornadoes, etc, etc. Doesn’t mean a damned thing other than the people with PTSD need treatment and help, not more stigma. God this PISSES me off.

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 5:08:18am

The #tcot has picked up their talking points for yesterday’s shooting.

HURR HURR NO MOAR GUN FREE ZONES!!!!! MOAR GUNZ 4 EVERYONE!!!!!11!!!

What could possibly go wrong?

86 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 3, 2014 5:09:03am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

Absolutely. I have PTSD. I’m not going to kill anyone. I haven’t even gotten into a fight in fifteen years.

87 A Mom Anon  Apr 3, 2014 5:11:47am

But, in other news, The Husband may be going to a new job at the beginning of May. Same pay, BUT, there’s actual quarterly bonuses, and a good chance that the health insurance won’t eat up such a huge chunk of his paycheck. He also might actually get paid for overtime sometimes. And there might actually be a chance to advance within the company.

As it stands right now, this current company expects him to work nearly every weekend and work 10-12 hours a day on salary (less than 50K). His job is physical, he’s doing residential maintenance on a 500 unit student housing complex with two pools, hot tubs, common areas, etc. He has two assistants and the work never stops. His last “bonus” was 20 dollars. Seriously. And they simply would not consider him for a regional job, even with 10 yrs of experience. No raises in a year, and they wrote him up for not taking a call when he wasn’t on call. He can’t get out of there soon enough.

He’s also about halfway through the interview process for a regional job, which would pay a lot more. Keep your fingers crossed and say a prayer of some sort. If things don’t change, we’re seriously in danger of losing our house at the end of the year. Savings will be gone, more outgo than income, etc.

88 A Mom Anon  Apr 3, 2014 5:15:29am

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

What could possibly go wrong?

Watch Georgia over the next couple of years, they’re passing laws to allow guns everywhere but the State Capitol. Bars. churches, the freaking airport. Stay tuned.

89 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 5:20:17am

re: #88 A Mom Anon

What could possibly go wrong?

Watch Georgia over the next couple of years, they’re passing laws to allow guns everywhere but the State Capitol. Bars. churches, the freaking airport. Stay tuned.

Texas already allows guns in the State Capitol. They made it to where people who have a CHL can bypass the metal detectors that normally take ages, so it’s been a popular thing for reporters and state workers to get licenses so they can get in faster.

So far they’ve resisted putting guns in bars, but it’s a matter of time.

90 A Mom Anon  Apr 3, 2014 5:23:17am

re: #89 Lidane

Do these people shower with their firearms? I can’t imagine being that scared of everything.

(congrats on the job, keeping happy thoughts for you. this economy sucks)

91 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:24:06am

re: #77 Lidane

Just heard back from the company I did a follow-up interview with last week for a research analyst position. They want to meet me on site next week! This would be my third (and hopefully final) interview for the gig.

*Snoopy dance*

This has made my day and it’s not even 7am. :D

Congrats! Fingers crossed. : )

92 A Mom Anon  Apr 3, 2014 5:26:37am

Alrighty, I’m taking Miss Dog to a friend’s house to play with her giant Golden Retriever. Seriously, he weighs 140 lbs and he’s not fat. He’s part Belgian Work Horse, lol. BBL.

93 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:29:42am

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi

As Chinese wages and production costs are rising, some industries are moving to areas with even lower wages, such as Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

I hate to burst your bubble, but your Filas probably cost less than $10 to manufacture.

Yes, I know. That $25 was wages for an entire week for one of those workers which I paid for a pair of shoes.

I was just making a comparison of what the MSRP was compared to what I paid. I never pay full price for products and will wait for a sale if I have to. : )

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 5:32:51am

re: #77 Lidane

Just heard back from the company I did a follow-up interview with last week for a research analyst position. They want to meet me on site next week! This would be my third (and hopefully final) interview for the gig.

*Snoopy dance*

This has made my day and it’s not even 7am. :D

Congrats!

I’m dropping off an application for a custodial job at the local elementary school today. It would be nice - a local, full time job pushing a broom, mop & toilet brush. Thing is, my dad did it for 20+ years at a University and it’s not bad work. I’d rather do it that ever set foot in a factory, let me tell you! Got a great reference letter from my priest and have updated my “stay-at-home” dad bit on the resume to include “cleaning” :)

95 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 5:37:33am

re: #94 William Barnett-Lewis

Congrats!

I’m dropping off an application for a custodial job at the local elementary school today. It would be nice - a local, full time job pushing a broom, mop & toilet brush. Thing is, my dad did it for 20+ years at a University and it’s not bad work. I’d rather do it that ever set foot in a factory, let me tell you! Got a great reference letter from my priest and have updated my “stay-at-home” dad bit on the resume to include “cleaning” :)

Do you want to come to my house for a week? Now begins the final phase of “Spring Cleaning,” turning over the kitchen. I have already put away all the pie equipment. All the pantries, drawers, & countertops have to be scrubbed down, new shelf liner put down, and the fridge, oven & stovetop scoured.

96 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:39:32am

re: #93 Justanotherhuman

Yes, I know. That $25 was wages for an entire week for one of those workers which I paid for a pair of shoes.

I was just making a comparison of what the MSRP was compared to what I paid. I never pay full price for products and will wait for a sale if I have to. : )

ETA: And how many pairs of shoes did that particular person work on? Probably hundreds, even thousands, if my memory of production work is any indicator. I once had to wrap and solder 10 capacitors/transistors on a TV tuner in a minute and I made $3.25/hr, so I know how that goes (that was 40 yrs ago). At least it was a union shop and the steward would stop the line any time someone thought the super had sped it up. The plant closed down while I was there after about 6 mos and moved out of the country, so industry moving out of the US is nothing new—but the accumulation of these moves over the years has been devastating for many people here in the US.

97 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 5:48:29am

re: #95 Pie-onist Overlord

Do you want to come to my house for a week? Now begins the final phase of “Spring Cleaning,” turning over the kitchen. I have already put away all the pie equipment. All the pantries, drawers, & countertops have to be scrubbed down, new shelf liner put down, and the fridge, oven & stovetop scoured.

Alas, I’m in Northern WI and that would be a bit of a drive :) I like the “local” part of my description best.

98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 6:00:34am

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

… industry moving out of the US is nothing new—but the accumulation of these moves over the years has been devastating for many people here in the US.

…to be only partially replaced by minimum-wage jobs selling cheap imported wares to other people working minimum-wage service jobs.

99 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 6:10:16am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Are there politicians in China campaigning against exporting jobs?

Are you being sarcastic? I can’t tell.

Chinese politics is way different from American politics. If they are campaigning, they’re doing it behind closed doors and/or or under the table.

I’m guessing that many of those offshore factories are Chinese-owned, so the businessmen don’t care. Policy makers, on the other hand, may worry about China’s falling employment rates. As the Chinese yuan slowly strengthens against the dollar, Chinese goods are not as cheap as before and demand has dropped. So domestic factories are not hiring as many workers.

100 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:12:59am


‘Fox & Friends’ finds Obama ‘responsible’ for Ft. Hood shooting within first 24 hours

Doocy then pointed to the current Democratic president by quoting a conservative blogger: “Gateway Pundit, which is a way right-leaning blog, what they write this morning is, ‘The Obama administration is responsible for this mass shooting. They witnessed this before, they didn’t learn a thing. Gun-free zones are death zones. It is time to stand up to the lunacy.’”

101 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:13:47am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Although there are the usual gaps in education for racial groups, overall HS and bachelor degree attainment in the US has increased greatly in the last 40 yrs.

For instance, in 1970, only a couple of years earlier than that factory job I had, only 55% of adults 25 and older had graduated from HS, only 11% had a bachelor’s or higher degree.

In 2012, the figures were 88% and 31%, respectively.

nces.ed.gov

102 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 6:14:22am

So, the second time in, what, 5 years that Fort Hood has gotten its shit pushed in by a lone, rogue soldier going on a shooting spree?

Remember kids, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with—

Oh. Oh, uh… well shit.

Keep in mind: The gunfuckers truly, honestly believe that they stand a better chance of stopping an armed madman than trained combat personnel. There is empirical, multiple-trial evidence that demonstrates that even people who know what the hell they’re doing don’t stop “bad guys with guns”, but fuck all that.

Clearly the answer to our problem is MOAR GUNZZZZ!11!11!111!

103 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:15:55am

re: #100 Varek Raith


‘Fox & Friends’ finds Obama ‘responsible’ for Ft. Hood shooting within first 24 hours

No, it’s time to stand up to Fux News and those like them. Grrrrrr!

104 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 6:16:45am

re: #100 Varek Raith


‘Fox & Friends’ finds Obama ‘responsible’ for Ft. Hood shooting within first 24 hours

They’re using Dim Hoft as a quote source? That’s pathetic even by Fox’s usual standards.

105 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 6:17:04am

re: #100 Varek Raith


‘Fox & Friends’ finds Obama ‘responsible’ for Ft. Hood shooting within first 24 hours

I know others have already commented on this idiocy, but do any of these nudniks ever consider that Fort Hood is a military installation, and by definition is NOT a gun-free zone? It’s a gun-restricted zone, for very good reasons. If only the 101st Chairborne Division would take time to ponder those reasons.

106 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 6:19:51am

re: #88 A Mom Anon

What could possibly go wrong?

Watch Georgia over the next couple of years, they’re passing laws to allow guns everywhere but the State Capitol. Bars. churches, the freaking airport. Stay tuned.

Yeah, the great minds down here in Georgiastan have decided that it’s cool to carry guns everywhere except the state house. You know, the place where they happen to be.

Funny, that.

107 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 6:22:49am

re: #106 GunstarGreen

Yeah, the great minds down here in Georgiastan have decided that it’s cool to carry guns everywhere except the state house. You know, the place where they happen to be.

Funny, that.

If your state respected your 2nd Amendment rights, you would be allowed to strap a claymore to your NASCAR belt buckle and walk into the state house cafeteria.

108 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 6:24:07am

Really CNN? I never would have guessed:

109 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:24:47am

re: #108 Lidane

Really CNN? I never would have guessed:

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LIES

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:24:58am
111 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:15am

re: #108 Lidane

Idiocracy wasn’t fiction, it was a documentary sent through a time portal from the future.

112 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:26am

re: #108 Lidane

Really CNN? I never would have guessed:

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In reality, that’s pretty much the point at which it stops struggling.

113 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 6:26:54am

re: #111 GunstarGreen

Idiocracy wasn’t fiction, it was a documentary sent through a time portal from the future.

Via tachyon transmissions.

114 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:27:09am

115 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 6:27:24am

In other news, Twitsville is now calling for the wholesale genocide of a particular religious sect, without even a single shred of shame or, you know, understanding of history.

Your (semi-)daily dose of meteor summoning.

Summon the Meteors

116 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 6:28:23am
117 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:28:58am

re: #105 wheat-dogghazi

I know others have already commented on this idiocy, but do any of these nudniks ever consider that Fort Hood is a military installation, and by definition is NOT a gun-free zone? It’s a gun-restricted zone, for very good reasons. If only the 101st Chairborne Division would take time to ponder those reasons.

Remember that, to wingnut’s, the answers to all life’s problems are more guns. Even if it becomes clear that the shooter in this case was a fellow suffering from mental health issues, they think he should have been armed by virtue of being a soldier. Most people might question the logic of having soldiers suffering from PTSD walking around armed, but to a wingnut the biggest tragedy is that somebody might question a soldier’s trustworthiness with a gun.

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:30:20am

If these psychotics think they only need 3% to overthrow the government, they can’t claim to be WHEE TEH PEOPLE!!!!!!
Also: look how they use iii% to make it look like “one hundred and ten” percent”
Bring it on dumbasses.

119 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 6:31:57am

re: #108 Lidane

This is why we should all be tuned into cable tv news, for insightful analysis and BREAKING NEWS!!! such as this. /

120 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:32:25am

Alright RWers.
You’ve been calling for a revolution for years now. Put up or shut up you chickenshits so we can move on.
Morons.

121 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:32:57am

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

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And thus Jesus said, “OUCH!”

122 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 6:33:45am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Remember that, to wingnut’s, the answers to all life’s problems are more guns. Even if it becomes clear that the shooter in this case was a fellow suffering from mental health issues, they think he should have been armed by virtue of being a soldier. Most people might question the logic of having soldiers suffering from PTSD walking around armed, but to a wingnut the biggest tragedy is that somebody might question a soldier’s trustworthiness with a gun.

Yeh, well, I know logic is not their forte, but calling a military base a “gun-free zone” is beyond stupid.

123 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 6:34:47am

re: #121 Varek Raith

And thus Jesus said, “OUCH!”

it would have been more impressive if he had come alive, and started walking down the mountain into Rio.

124 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:34:55am

re: #120 Varek Raith

Alright RWers.
You’ve been calling for a revolution for years now. Put up or shut up you chickenshits so we can move on.
Morons.

And assuming they should win the next two elections, all the “revolution” shit will suddenly and inexplicably go away.

2008-2016: “WE NEED A REVOLUTION! FEED THE TREE OF LIBERTY!!!!”
2017: “We never really wanted to overthrow the government…”

125 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:36:05am

re: #124 Targetpractice

And assuming they should win the next two elections, all the “revolution” shit will suddenly and inexplicably go away.

2008-2016: “WE NEED A REVOLUTION! FEED THE TREE OF LIBERTY!!!!”
2017: “We never >really wanted to overthrow the government…”

Every time they are out of power. Like clockwork.

126 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 6:36:19am

Well I learned last night that, indeed, it was my neighbor’s car that accidently jumped the curb and junked up my front lawn and ran down my azalea bush. But his auto insurance is supposed to be footing the bill for undoing the damage for me and the neighbor on my otherside, who actually got the worst of it, the car having smashed into their heating/air-conditioning thing.

Just relieved to learn it wasn’t some crazed wacko or some person on the Internets I might have offended who managed to track me down. //

127 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:37:01am

BUSH IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!
OBAMA IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!

128 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:38:01am

re: #126 Bulworth

Well I learned last night that, indeed, it was my neighbor’s car that accidently jumped the curb and junked up my front lawn and ran down my azalea bush. But his auto insurance is supposed to be footing the bill for undoing the damage for me and the neighbor on my otherside, who actually got the worst of it, the car having smashed into their heating/air-conditioning thing.

Just relieved to learn it wasn’t some crazed wacko or some person on the Internets I might have offended who managed to track me down. //

You don’t mind if I park my UFO on your roof, do you?

129 Political Atheist  Apr 3, 2014 6:39:29am

re: #127 Varek Raith

BUSH IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!
OBAMA IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!

You forgot Clinton on that one.

130 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 6:40:25am

re: #124 Targetpractice

2017: Anyone who says anything against the government is a sore loserman and hates America. Get over it.

2018: People who disagree with President Jeb Christie Ben Carson are traitors and should be shot for treason

Fall 2018: Democrat Party should be outlawed because Freedom.

131 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:40:32am

re: #129 Political Atheist

You forgot Clinton on that one.

I should’ve just put all PotUSes on that list.
:P

132 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:40:37am

re: #122 wheat-dogghazi

Yeh, well, I know logic is not their forte, but calling a military base a “gun-free zone” is beyond stupid.

Nor does soldiers/sailors being armed give them superhuman abilities, like knowing that the guy coming towards them is a civilian with a felony murder rap on his record who’s looking to wrestle their gun away and shoot other sailors.

133 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 6:43:07am
134 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:43:28am

re: #126 Bulworth

Well I learned last night that, indeed, it was my neighbor’s car that accidently jumped the curb and junked up my front lawn and ran down my azalea bush. But his auto insurance is supposed to be footing the bill for undoing the damage for me and the neighbor on my otherside, who actually got the worst of it, the car having smashed into their heating/air-conditioning thing.

Just relieved to learn it wasn’t some crazed wacko or some person on the Internets I might have offended who managed to track me down. //

Your neighbor’s car came to life and did this on its own (like “Christine”) or your neighbor was behind the wheel while all his meds kicked in?

You know the thing seniors fear most is having their license suspended.

135 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:44:16am

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:44:17am

re: #127 Varek Raith

BUSH IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!
OBAMA IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!

CLINTON IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW & CANCEL TEH ELECTIONS!!!!

137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 6:44:25am

re: #132 Targetpractice

Nor does soldiers/sailors being armed give them superhuman abilities, like knowing that the guy coming towards them is a civilian with a felony murder rap on his record who’s looking to wrestle their gun away and shoot other sailors.

It will take a mass public shooting incident that turns into an OK-Corral gunfight with multiple gun-carrying citizens “responding” and shooting innocent passers-by before anyone considers even discussing unrestricted carry laws.

138 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:44:52am

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

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“That’s not entirely accurate…”

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 6:45:09am

re: #136 Pie-onist Overlord

CLINTON IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW & CANCEL TEH ELECTIONS RETROACTIVELY!!!!

140 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:46:04am

I just got off the phone with Virgin Mobile. Do not ever buy a phone from them. My grandson’s phone that cost $225 from them stopped working after 17 days (he bought it on 2/21/14). On March 10, we called them to report the phone and were told they’d send a shipping envelope to return the phone for a refund (he had already bought another phone).

We never got it. Now, we’re being told that a refund would have only been available after 14 days, but they would give him a “replacement”. The phone was 17 days old—and has a 1 yr guarantee. They also refused to send us a printed copy of the guarantee (“it’s on our website”).

Lie after lie. This is why people sue.

141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 6:46:27am

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

“I DIDN’T HAVE CONTACT WITH THAT ALIEN!

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:47:23am

This gunfucker is boycotting all businesses that don’t allow unrestricted open carry on the premises. He must get hungry.

143 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:47:30am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It will take a mass public shooting incident that turns into an OK-Corral gunfight with multiple gun-carrying citizens “responding” and shooting innocent passers-by before anyone considers even discussing unrestricted carry laws.

I’d say that’s the most likely scenario. Like with the “true conservative” BS, no matter how thoroughly a shooting debunks their talking points, they’ll go on screaming “MOAR GUNS!!!”.

144 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 6:47:38am

re: #127 Varek Raith

BUSH IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!
OBAMA IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND CANCEL THE ELECTIONS!

re: #136 Pie-onist Overlord

CLINTON IS GOING TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW & CANCEL TEH ELECTIONS!!!!

ZOMBIE REAGAN IS GOING TO COME BACK FROM THE DEAD, DECLARE MARTIAL LAW & CANCEL TEH ELECTIONS FOREVER!!!!

145 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:49:07am

re: #142 Pie-onist Overlord

This gunfucker is boycotting all businesses that don’t allow unrestricted open carry on the premises. He must get hungry.

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One of these days, somebody really should let these nutters in on the secret that “An armed society is a polite society” was satirical in nature.

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:49:09am

re: #144 Lidane

ZOMBIE REAGAN IS GOING TO COME BACK FROM THE DEAD, DECLARE MARTIAL LAW & CANCEL TEH ELECTIONS FOREVER!!!!

VAMPIRE ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAYS I ALREADY DECLARE MARTIAL LAW, NOW I WILL DECLARE MYSELF PRESIDENT FOR NEVERENDING LIFE, MOTHERFUCKERS.

147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 6:49:32am

re: #144 Lidane

ZOMBIE REAGAN IS GOING TO COME BACK FROM THE DEAD, DECLARE MARTIAL LAW & CANCEL TEH ELECTIONS FOREVER!!!!

and name himself “President-for-Un-Life”?

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 6:49:54am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

beat me

149 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:50:04am

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan
Bill Clinton assured America that he has checked and there are no aliens in a bunker at Area 51 politico.com

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But if you parse that correctly, he said that there wasn’t any aliens in A BUNKER at Area 51. He didn’t deny that there were aliens in OTHER BUNKERS, or even in NON BUNKER FACILITIES //////

RBS

150 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:00am

re: #149 RealityBasedSteve

Bill Clinton assured America that he has checked and there are no aliens in a bunker at Area 51 politico.com

But if you parse that correctly, he said that there wasn’t any aliens in >A BUNKER at Area 51. He didn’t deny that there were aliens in >OTHER BUNKERS, or even in >NON BUNKER FACILITIES //////

RBS

He’s a tricksie one.

151 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:01am
152 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:02am

re: #149 RealityBasedSteve

Bill Clinton assured America that he has checked and there are no aliens in a bunker at Area 51 politico.com

But if you parse that correctly, he said that there wasn’t any aliens in >A BUNKER at Area 51. He didn’t deny that there were aliens in >OTHER BUNKERS, or even in >NON BUNKER FACILITIES //////

RBS

Everybody knows they’re being held in Hanger 18 at Wright-Patterson.

153 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:15am

re: #143 Targetpractice

I’d say that’s the most likely scenario. Like with the “true conservative” BS, no matter how thoroughly a shooting debunks their talking points, they’ll go on screaming “MOAR GUNS!!!”.

What if it happened at an NRA convention, and the exchange took out most of their executive committee plus a few big bucks contributors?
(Just asking questions.)

154 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:40am

re: #153 Feline Fearless Leader

What if it happened at an NRA convention, and the exchange took out most of their executive committee plus a few big bucks contributors?
(Just asking questions.)

Well, it would be wrong not to speculate…

155 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 6:53:08am

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

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So the Queen of England told Bill Clinton to lie about the aliens in the bunker??

156 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 6:53:09am

The GOP keeps trying to poke holes in the 7.1 million ACA enrolled figure, but they’re going to find that the numbers are running against them.

In NYS, the state has enrolled 865,000 in the marketplace, and 70% are those who had no prior health insurance. So, even with all the glitches, the number of enrolled is a significant reduction in uninsureds.

The GOP will find that its fight against health insurance for uninsureds will be significantly harder than they think. Moreover, they keep playing with unskewed polling and wishful thinking in hoping that they can repeal ACA down the line (as candidates/prominent GOPers keep pushing that as their ultimate goal).

While the rollout of the ACA website was awful, I’m more concerned with the problems they had this past week. Those need to be resolved and they should be ahead of the next enrollment period in November. Everyone should take a hard look at how and why that happened, but GOPers will focus on how to make enrollment even more painful and point to it as a failing point for the ACA overall.

That would ignore that enrollment in health care isn’t always an easy process even through employers. It ignores that insurers are constantly playing with their network coverages/doctors included. They are constantly pushing to minimize their costs/payouts to maximize their profit, which comes at the insureds expense. The ACA didn’t totally change that dynamic, though there are mechanisms in place to try and make sure that the premiums paid are in line with claims as far as marketplace policies are concerned.

157 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 6:53:32am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

He was behind the wheel, pulling in to his parking slot. Not clear what happened with the brake.

Actually won’t mind having my front lawn redone anyway because it sucks. The azalea bush was once beautiful, but when I let my other neighbor do some lawn work for me he drastically pared it back. And the grass was never much to speak of.

Silver linings and all that.

158 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 6:53:44am

OUTRAGE!

159 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 6:54:39am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

Ugh. But thanks for the heads-up re: Virgin Mobile.

160 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 6:54:49am

re: #149 RealityBasedSteve

Bill Clinton assured America that he has checked and there are no aliens in a bunker at Area 51 politico.com

But if you parse that correctly, he said that there wasn’t any aliens in >A BUNKER at Area 51. He didn’t deny that there were aliens in >OTHER BUNKERS, or even in >NON BUNKER FACILITIES //////

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘bunker’ is” - Clinton

161 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 6:58:59am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

I just got off the phone with Virgin Mobile. Do not ever buy a phone from them. My grandson’s phone that cost $225 from them stopped working after 17 days (he bought it on 2/21/14). On March 10, we called them to report the phone and were told they’d send a shipping envelope to return the phone for a refund (he had already bought another phone).

We never got it. Now, we’re being told that a refund would have only been available after 14 days, but they would give him a “replacement”. The phone was 17 days old—and has a 1 yr guarantee. They also refused to send us a printed copy of the guarantee (“it’s on our website”).

Lie after lie. This is why people sue.

I have to say that two benefits of living in China is the excellent cellphone coverage and the ability to buy a phone independent of any service contract. The cell providers are of course limited in number, by law, but their options are quite good and not too costly. China Mobile is in the process of rolling out 4G service in my neck of the woods, and I may see if it’s worth switching.

WiFi hot spots, on the other hand, are still limited. Thailand has way better WiFi coverage.

162 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 6:59:08am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

I’ve got a Virgin Mobile phone right now. It worked without a hitch for a long time, but these days almost every incoming call is dropped. I could have my phone right next to me and STILL end up getting a surprise voicemail because somebody called and it never rang at all.

As soon as I get some money, I’m ditching Virgin for T-Mobile or someone else. This is ridiculous.

163 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:59:42am

My grandson just threw the old cell phone into the garbage. He said it wasn’t worth getting upset over. And really, it’s not since they bat off lawsuits like flies. It doesn’t affect them.

Still, Virgin Mobile can go to hell.

164 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:00:36am

re: #156 lawhawk

Then there are the assholes like Daniel Horowitz over at RS, who are further entrenching themselves in the “DEFUND OBAMACARE!” rhetoric by declaring that every single one of those 7.1m enrolled was previously insured and “happy,” because the law is destroying the private insurance industry. Obviously those grapes must have been quite sour.

165 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:02:22am

HURR HURR PERTECKT ARE FREEDUMZ!!!!!!!

166 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:02:49am

re: #151 Lidane

Didn’t see combat, but could still have had PTSD because of a threat of violence that pervaded his sense of well being during his tour. Or he could have had underlying mental health issues exascerbated by the tour (and for which he apparently sought treatment). We may never know his motivation to go and kill 3 people and shoot so many others before taking his own life.

But one has to wonder whether leadership at the base has devoted enough attention to the mental health issues on the base, along with other problems with personnel (including harassing local police and openly flouting rules while asserting a right to open carry without showing ID).

167 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 7:03:54am

re: #158 Lidane

How about Schneeverschlag (Snow Den)?

168 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:04:38am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR PERTECKT ARE FREEDUMZ!!!!!!!

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Yes, it’s absolutely horrific that people can get affordable health insurance in this country. However will we survive such evil?

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169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 7:04:42am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

Only in a hearltess regime does the government allow 40 million citizens to be without healthcare…

170 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 7:05:54am

re: #161 wheat-dogghazi

I have to say that two benefits of living in China is the excellent cellphone coverage and the ability to buy a phone independent of any service contract. The cell providers are of course limited in number, by law, but their options are quite good and not too costly. China Mobile is in the process of rolling out 4G service in my neck of the woods, and I may see if it’s worth switching.

WiFi hot spots, on the other hand, are still limited. Thailand has way better WiFi coverage.

One thing I like about the Czech Republic is not only the ability to buy a mobile phone independent of a contract, but that they’re ubiquitous in pawn shops here, and you can easily buy them online as well. The overwhelming majority of them are unlocked, so you just pop in your SIM and you’re good to go.

171 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:05:54am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It will take a mass public shooting incident that turns into an OK-Corral gunfight with multiple gun-carrying citizens “responding” and shooting innocent passers-by before anyone considers even discussing unrestricted carry laws.

All that would do is just deepen the gun nuts’ resolve even further.

If 20 slaughtered Connecticut first graders can’t get people to realize how unnecessary guns are in our modern society, nothing will.

172 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 7:06:10am
173 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:07:59am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Only in a hearltess regime does the government allow 40 million citizens to be without healthcare…

Hell, even with the “socialism” of Obamacare, there will still be (by the CBO’s estimates) 28 million people without health insurance in 10 years. To the rest of the civilized world, that’s unthinkable. To America, that’s just tough shit.

174 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:08:27am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Only in a hearltess regime does the government allow 40 million citizens to be without healthcare…

Or ignores that the Constitution requires Congress to act for the general health and welfare of the people.

Preamble: “…promote the general Welfare”

Art I, Sec 8: “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;”

General welfare includes health. Access to health insurance would surely fit, and it’s health insurance via private health insurers in marketplaces that didn’t exist but for the ACA).

175 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:09:23am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

re: #162 Lidane

Yeesh. I’m almost 2 months in with a Virgin Mobile iPhone. The only issues I’ve had so far is there’s a stretch a highway where the phone can’t make a decent connection; and if I’m in a warehouse like setting, those buildings go all Faraday Cage on me.

Other than that, It’s been fine. However, I was warned of some of the things you guys are complaining about. I’ll be tracking that closely.

176 sattv4u2  Apr 3, 2014 7:10:55am

re: #172 b.d.

Just ‘sayin…

I hear he called Captain Kirk to get the green chics number too!!!

177 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:14:22am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR PERTECKT ARE FREEDUMZ!!!!!!!

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Oh, for fuck’s sake…

Dear Conservatives:

INDVIDIUAL MANDATED HEALTHCARE WAS YOUR FUCKING IDEA IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!

YOU STOPPED LIKING IT AFTER TWO DECADES BECAUSE THE BLACK GUY STARTED PROMOTING IT!!!

I actually had a conservative on Facebook tell me that Obama lied and cheated to get it passed, when I pointed out it was his side that came up with the idea.

This is why I get so effing crazy when I hear these projections that the GOP will take the Senate in November. Are Americans that stupid that haven’t watched what these loons have been doing for nearly 6 years?

178 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 7:14:36am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe this person is talking about the forced ultrasounds….

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179 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 7:15:25am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

One thing I like about the Czech Republic is not only the ability to buy a mobile phone independent of a contract, but that they’re ubiquitous in pawn shops here, and you can easily buy them online as well. The overwhelming majority of them are unlocked, so you just pop in your SIM and you’re good to go.

Cellphone service in the States, simply speaking, sucks, compared to China, Thailand, or probably the Czech Republic. It’s an example of the free market failing to deliver the services people need.

180 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:15:56am

re: #177 Mattand

Oh, for fuck’s sake…

Dear Conservatives:

INDVIDIUAL MANDATED HEALTHCARE WAS YOUR FUCKING IDEA IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!

YOU STOPPED LIKING IT AFTER >TWO DECADES BECAUSE THE BLACK GUY STARTED PROMOTING IT!!!

I actually had a conservative on Facebook tell me that Obama lied and cheated to get it passed, when I pointed out it was his side that came up with the idea.

This is why I get so effing crazy when I hear these projections that the GOP will take the Senate in November. Are Americans that stupid that haven’t watched what these loons have been doing for nearly 6 years?

Yes.

182 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:16:53am

The Hoft in action:

Ummm, what specific policy did the President enact that caused this? Extended tax cuts to all but the rich? Expanded access to affordable health insurance?

Chopped government spending at a time when the economy wasn’t growing enough reducing jobs for all (even as GOPers routinely try to protect military/defense spending precisely because it creates certain kinds of jobs)?

If I had to guess, it’s the sequester and reduction in government spending that is driving any shrinkage in the middle class - but even that’s assuming it’s happening as the report suggests.

183 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:18:28am

HURR HURR!!!!

184 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:18:37am

re: #177 Mattand

Oh, for fuck’s sake…

Dear Conservatives:

INDVIDIUAL MANDATED HEALTHCARE WAS YOUR FUCKING IDEA IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!

YOU STOPPED LIKING IT AFTER >TWO DECADES BECAUSE THE BLACK GUY STARTED PROMOTING IT!!!

I actually had a conservative on Facebook tell me that Obama lied and cheated to get it passed, when I pointed out it was his side that came up with the idea.

This is why I get so effing crazy when I hear these projections that the GOP will take the Senate in November. Are Americans that stupid that haven’t watched what these loons have been doing for nearly 6 years?

Yeah, but that was yesterday. Today they’re all about tax credits, HSAs, and high risk pools. Why? They’ll tell you it’s because those give “choice” back to consumers, but the truth is that that’s all they have left in their bag of tricks to build an “alternative” around.

185 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 7:18:43am

re: #181 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Charles Koch is using the DailyKos flag guy image?

186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 7:19:29am

re: #182 lawhawk

sounds about like the share of the Middle Class that lost their jobs and/or homes as a result of the 2008 crisis…

187 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:19:43am

re: #177 Mattand

Are people that attuned to what politicians say? Nope. They aren’t. They’ll pull the lever for who they usually vote for. They’ll vote by party line, ignoring all the facts and evidence to not do so because their party position is antithetical to their own well being. Or they’ll do it for less honorable reasons.

It’s how criminals and ethically challenged politicians are elected, reelected, and gain near lifetime seat status.

Everyone loves their own representatives, but hates Congress (it’s always the other guy’s fault and think that others should change their votes to clean up Congress’ act).

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:20:03am

re: #185 b.d.

Charles Koch is using the DailyKos flag guy image?

Some guy thinks Koch should run for President.

189 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:20:32am

re: #77 Lidane

Just heard back from the company I did a follow-up interview with last week for a research analyst position. They want to meet me on site next week! This would be my third (and hopefully final) interview for the gig.

*Snoopy dance*

This has made my day and it’s not even 7am. :D

YAY!

But THIRD interview? Cripes. Remember the good old days when it wasn’t like breaking into Fort Knox to get a job?

I’m currently hiring a new minion for the lab, and I find myself chafing at how the company does this. I don’t think we hire ANY lab dogs as permanent right off the bat, for one. They all have to go through an extended period as a temp. Some have gone TWO YEARS, and only got permanent employee status when they let it be known they were interviewing at other places.

Then there’s background checks and drug screening - “Here, professional lab worker with 15 years of experience and a record of accomplishment - pee in this cup for us.”

190 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 7:20:58am

re: #181 Pie-onist Overlord

Eh, might as well put forward the person most responsible for their agenda.

half /

191 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 7:21:46am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR PERTECKT ARE FREEDUMZ!!!!!!!

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Alright then, we’re in a “totalitarian regime”.

Explain to me how it is that you, a dissident, are not in a death camp right now, and are in fact allowed to openly insult the government on twitter.

192 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 7:21:54am

Obama Protester Attacks CBS Reporter During Live ReportThe guy’s pretty young. Probably a 9-11 Truther or Greenwald fan.

193 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 7:22:22am

re: #189 GeneJockey

All this makes me realize why I will cling to the job I have until they pry my cold dead fingers from my keyboard.

194 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:22:55am

re: #191 GunstarGreen

Alright then, we’re in a “totalitarian regime”.

Explain to me how it is that you, a dissident, are not in a death camp right now, and are in fact allowed to openly insult the government on twitter.

I ask that all the time and no one ever has an answer.

195 sattv4u2  Apr 3, 2014 7:22:58am

Ah well

Deck and front porch ,,,,, stained
Front yard,,,,, sprayed for weeds

Sunny + hitting the low 80’s today + rest of the day off = GOLF DAY!!

Laterz

196 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:23:16am

re: #194 Pie-onist Overlord

I ask that all the time and no one ever has an answer.

IT TAKES TIME!!111ty

197 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:23:28am

re: #182 lawhawk

The Hoft in action:

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Ummm, what specific policy did the President enact that caused this? Extended tax cuts to all but the rich? Expanded access to affordable health insurance?

Chopped government spending at a time when the economy wasn’t growing enough reducing jobs for all (even as GOPers routinely try to protect military/defense spending precisely because it creates certain kinds of jobs)?

If I had to guess, it’s the sequester and reduction in government spending that is driving any shrinkage in the middle class - but even that’s assuming it’s happening as the report suggests.

Haven’t referenced this lately…

In a world of close to seven billion people, where the internet is exponentially becoming a greater part of people’s everyday lives, it is Hoft who deftly gazes upon the information around him and manages to shamelessly shit his pants publicly on a daily basis.

198 Timothy Watson  Apr 3, 2014 7:24:07am

Something I posted on another blog:

Because police officers (including military police) always love walking into a ten way gun battle having no idea whose the hostile is and who isn’t.

You would think that given the number of friendly-fire incidents that military has every year, people would be a little more intelligent about having military personnel (or civilians) firing on one another with absolutely no way for authorities to know who they should shoot.

199 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 7:24:32am

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi

Cellphone service in the States, simply speaking, sucks, compared to China, Thailand, or probably the Czech Republic. It’s an example of the free market failing to deliver the services people need.

A friend came and visited me here in 2008; she was pretty shocked at how good the cellphone service was here compared to back in the states, not to mention the price being far lower than what she was paying back home for pretty much the same level of service.

200 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 7:24:50am

re: #196 Varek Raith

The tyranny is already here but it will really be here in Obama’s second third term. /

201 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 7:25:59am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

So our cell phone service sucks and costs too much? Thanks Obama!!

/

202 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:26:03am

re: #197 Mattand

Haven’t referenced this lately…

I heard that last bit in my head with the ‘In a world where…” voiceover guy reading it.

203 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:26:12am

re: #201 Bulworth

So our cell phone service sucks and costs too much? Thanks Obama!!

/

Same with internet.

204 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 7:27:16am

There will be facts…
IRS chief: No ‘targeting’ of tea party groups, just ‘inappropriate criteria’

We understand the public relations concern about acknowledging that the IRS engaged in targeting of conservative groups. But the cat’s out of the bag, given an official IRS report has used the phrase and both George and Koskinen have used it in public testimony.

The IG’s report was carefully written, but at this point, it is silly and counterproductive for Koskinen to fall back on bureaucratese — or even deny that the phrase “targeting” had been used. While perhaps technically correct in terms of the report, this is a slender reed to hide behind. After all, George publicly said that all three allegations of “targeting” were proven, and that using “inappropriate criteria” was the equivalent of “targeting.” That demonstrates that the term “inappropriate criteria” is simply a euphemism. Accept that means “targeting,” and move on.

Three Pinocchios

205 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 7:27:34am

re: #182 lawhawk

“Poverty”? There ain’t no poverty in America. Wingnuts proved that Confirmed FACt because the poors have smart phones and microwaves and flat-screen TV’s. //

206 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 7:28:28am

“Remember the good old days when it wasn’t like breaking into Fort Knox to get a job?”

In almost 50 yrs of working, I never had to go on more than 1. Of course, I never worked at a “professional” level and my last job ended in 2004.

Still, I’d never work some place where I had to go through hoops to get hired. Not after I’ve had a look at the inner workings of an HR dept.

207 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:28:42am

re: #205 Bulworth

“Poverty”? There ain’t no poverty in America. Wingnuts proved that Confirmed FACt because the poors have smart phones and microwaves and flat-screen TV’s. //

And refrigerators, don’t forget the refrigerators.

208 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 7:28:55am

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Obama Protester Attacks CBS Reporter During Live ReportThe guy’s pretty young. Probably a 9-11 Truther or Greenwald fan.

“Internal Player Error” on vid 1.

209 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:29:06am

re: #204 Killgore Trout

That’s why only a progressive group got denied while the TP ones didn’t, right?

210 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 7:29:51am

The 1st place and undefeated Houston Astros.

(I will never be able to type that again, forgive me)

211 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:30:27am

In which homophobe hate preacher Matt Barber makes the idiotic claim that DuPont child rapist is a “Hero to Liberals”

212 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 7:30:30am

re: #203 Varek Raith

Same with internet.

As an example; with my internet company, I have 100 Mbps speed, unlimited with no caps, for $25 USD per month. When I got it installed, I went downtown to the service center, showed ‘em my rental contract, and the techs were out the following day.

213 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 7:30:52am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

“Internal Player Error” on vid 1.

Huh, it worked for me. Mediaite is a funky site, their videos get buggy sometimes.

214 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 7:30:58am

re: #211 Pie-onist Overlord

In which homophobe hate preacher Matt Barber makes the idiotic claim that DuPont child rapist is a “Hero to Liberals”

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$50 that DuPont is a republican.

215 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:32:17am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

As an example; with my internet company, I have 100 Mbps speed, unlimited with no caps, for $25 USD per month. When I got it installed, I went downtown to the service center, showed ‘em my rental contract, and the techs were out the following day.

Mine is half that for nearly four times the cost.
You suck.
:P

216 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:32:43am

LET’S KEEP THIS STUPID, SIMPLE

217 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:33:42am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

LET’S KEEP THIS STUPID, SIMPLE

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That’s why Somalia is a paradise.

218 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 7:33:49am

re: #191 GunstarGreen

Alright then, we’re in a “totalitarian regime”.

Explain to me how it is that you, a dissident, are not in a death camp right now, and are in fact allowed to openly insult the government on twitter.

Funny how so many of those types can’t distinguish between totalitarian corporate “culture” and the Federal govt, which forces corporations to respect your rights and enforces them in the civil sphere.

I call it the “Greenwald Effect”.

219 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:33:57am

re: #206 Justanotherhuman

“Remember the good old days when it wasn’t like breaking into Fort Knox to get a job?”

In almost 50 yrs of working, I never had to go on more than 1. Of course, I never worked at a “professional” level and my last job ended in 2004.

Still, I’d never work some place where I had to go through hoops to get hired. Not after I’ve had a look at the inner workings of an HR dept.

The last time I was out of a job was mid 2008. I worked under contract for 8 months, watching the whole economy fall off the cliff and knowing close to a million people a month were losing their jobs. When the company that acquired the company I was working for decided to make me permanent, I’d have crawled over broken glass for it. But I still resent having to pee in a cup after almost thirty years in the business and 8 months of working for them.

220 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:34:10am

re: #187 lawhawk

Are people that attuned to what politicians say? Nope. They aren’t. They’ll pull the lever for who they usually vote for. They’ll vote by party line, ignoring all the facts and evidence to not do so because their party position is antithetical to their own well being. Or they’ll do it for less honorable reasons.

It’s how criminals and ethically challenged politicians are elected, reelected, and gain near lifetime seat status.

Everyone loves their own representatives, but hates Congress (it’s always the other guy’s fault and think that others should change their votes to clean up Congress’ act).

I just get frustrated at things like the government shutdown, for example. One party triggered that, publicly and openly. One and one only.

I have friends and relatives who were out of work during that time. And to a person, when you point out the GOP’s culpability, at best they go into “Both parities are at fault” mode.

No. No, they’re not. And this is the second time these guys have done this in less than 20 years. And how many of these guys get elected by openly vowing to cripple the federal government as much as possible?

It’s like choosing a new doctor who will treat your cold by chopping off both hands so you can’t touch germ-infested surfaces, and then saying “Well, he seems to know what he’s doing.”

All of what you say is true. I get that. But, on a whole, Americans aren’t that smart when it comes to politics. At leas this cycle.

221 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:36:41am

re: #210 b.d.

The 1st place and undefeated Houston Astros.

(I will never be able to type that again, forgive me)

In Houston, you can pay $500 for the privilege of being engaged at an Astros game with the name on the big screens. It’s as close as anyone on Houston gets to putting a ring on it. /Conan (paraphrased from last night).

222 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 7:37:01am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

A friend came and visited me here in 2008; she was pretty shocked at how good the cellphone service was here compared to back in the states, not to mention the price being far lower than what she was paying back home for pretty much the same level of service.

Ditto. My American friends were amazed they could get a decent data connection in the middle of nowhere China.

223 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:37:17am

re: #221 lawhawk

In Houston, you can pay $500 for the privilege of being engaged at an Astros game with the name on the big screens. It’s as close as anyone on Houston gets to putting a ring on it. /Conan (paraphrased from last night).

Ouch!

224 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:37:18am

re: #206 Justanotherhuman

“Remember the good old days when it wasn’t like breaking into Fort Knox to get a job?”

In almost 50 yrs of working, I never had to go on more than 1. Of course, I never worked at a “professional” level and my last job ended in 2004.

Still, I’d never work some place where I had to go through hoops to get hired. Not after I’ve had a look at the inner workings of an HR dept.

The last job interview that I had, I was asked two questions:

THEM: It says here on your resume that you worked at [place across the street]. Did you know [this guy]?

ME: Yes, he was my boss’s boss.

THEM: Can we contact him?

ME: Sure, he’ll remember me.

225 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 7:37:31am

re: #209 Varek Raith

That’s why only a progressive group got denied while the TP ones didn’t, right?

Previous fact checks
IRS Officials Misled Congress, Public

Republican Overreach on IRS

226 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 7:38:07am

re: #215 Varek Raith

Mine is half that for nearly four times the cost.
You suck.
:P

Internet service here is quite reasonable and fast - I certainly can’t complain. As to what accounts for the vast difference between the Czech Republic and the US, I honestly don’t know. Here in Ostrava, there are several ISP’s; three major ones and about five or six smaller ones, as well as one run by the city itself, but that’s WiFi and it’s not in all areas yet - it’s mostly confined to the downtown core.

227 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:38:51am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Internet service here is quite reasonable and fast - I certainly can’t complain. As to what accounts for the vast difference between the Czech Republic and the US, I honestly don’t know. Here in Ostrava, there are several ISP’s; three major ones and about five or six smaller ones, as well as one run by the city itself, but that’s WiFi and it’s not in all areas yet - it’s mostly confined to the downtown core.

Pretty much monopoly conditions for ISPs here.

228 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 7:39:07am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi

Ditto. My American friends were amazed they could get a decent data connection in the middle of nowhere China.

Even here in very remote areas it’s possible to get connected.

229 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 7:39:15am

Not the same guy but from the same family and…hint, not a democrat

230 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 7:39:38am

re: #227 Varek Raith

Pretty much monopoly conditions for ISPs here.

That would explain it.

231 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 7:39:57am

re: #201 Bulworth

So our cell phone service sucks and costs too much? Thanks Obama!!

/

It’s all the Obama-phones sucking up the bandwidth!

232 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:39:58am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

LET’S KEEP THIS STUPID, SIMPLE

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Gah. If there were one story that should really make a difference to people who think that way, you’d think it would be the story of the ‘good guy with a gun’ who almost shot another ‘good guy with a gun’ during the Gaby Giffords shooting.

It’s not a goddam movie. The bad guys don’t wear black hats.

233 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:40:13am

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Previous fact checks
IRS Officials Misled Congress, Public

Republican Overreach on IRS

I’m not seeing anything that contradicts Varek’s statement.

234 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 7:40:41am
235 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:40:46am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

LET’S KEEP THIS STUPID, SIMPLE

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I keep wondering what Tim McVeigh was in their black/white world. He was a veteran and a white American, so obviously he was a “good guy,” right? But he blew up a federal building, killing hundreds of people, with the intention of starting a race war, which would make him a “bad guy,” right? So was he Schrodinger’s terrorist, simultaneously “good” and “bad” until that bomb exploded?

236 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:40:54am

MEME OF THE DAY

237 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:41:42am

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Oh please.
One office targeted left and right groups based on phrases.
Why? Because they got a shit ton of requests. It was the best they could manage with what they had.
Clearly, none of those groups should’ve been approved. They aren’t non political.
Sick of the games.

238 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:42:25am

re: #236 Pie-onist Overlord

MEME OF THE DAY

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*Then proceeds to shoot self in nards*

239 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:42:29am

re: #236 Pie-onist Overlord

MEME OF THE DAY

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What, drew their gun at the first sign of “trouble”? Yeah, I can see a world where people’s first instinct is to go for their gun if “threatened.” That world’s got gun-related death statistics that make ours pale in comparison.

240 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:42:44am

re: #234 Chrysicat

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They like to use III% (Roman numeral for 3, followed by a percent sign which MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE since Roman numerals are always whole numbers, not fractions or decimals)

They do it because III looks like 111 not 3.

241 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 7:44:34am

re: #189 GeneJockey

YAY!

But THIRD interview? Cripes. Remember the good old days when it wasn’t like breaking into Fort Knox to get a job?

Seriously. I got my radio gig by meeting a DJ at a club appearance he was making. He turned out to be the Assistant Program Director and he was hiring. I went to the station a few days later to sit down formally. I walked out with a job that lasted almost five years.

This current opportunity wasn’t so bad. I saw a job posting for it after a friend who works at the company mentioned on FB that they were hiring. She hooked me up with the contact info of the hiring manager and he wrote back and said he wanted to talk. The first interview was just a basic HR screen. The second was a phone interview that I had a minor freakout about on here because I thought some of my answers had jinxed me. They’ve been silent for a couple of weeks and I just heard back this morning.

I’m currently hiring a new minion for the lab, and I find myself chafing at how the company does this. I don’t think we hire ANY lab dogs as permanent right off the bat, for one. They all have to go through an extended period as a temp. Some have gone TWO YEARS, and only got permanent employee status when they let it be known they were interviewing at other places.

Yeah, this gig is a temporary one. It’s not a permanent job, but I’m interested in it and I’m willing to do it. Plus it’s a job and that means money coming my way. I could still look on my own time for other work and get something lined up if I know that the contract won’t be renewed.

Then there’s background checks and drug screening - “Here, professional lab worker with 15 years of experience and a record of accomplishment - pee in this cup for us.”

Oh, geez. The field sales job I interviewed for yesterday has a drug screen, a criminal background check, a credit check, AND if I make it to the final round of interviews, I’ll be given a “homework assignment” of a bunch of stuff I need to study and websites I need to evaluate, then I’d give them a full PowerPoint presentation. And this is for an outside sales gig for an SEO/SEM firm. It’s insane.

Meanwhile, the temp gig I’m up for has never once required any of those things.

242 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:44:37am

re: #225 Killgore Trout

The IRS job is to administer the IRC. It means preventing entities from obtaining tax benefits and status they are not entitled to.

That includes the 501(c)(4) nonprofit status. Congress has not provided sufficient funding to check every single entity with as much scrutiny as there should be to prevent tax avoidance/evasion by gaining nonprofit status where none is deserved because the group is engaging in political activities.

This particular office used shorthands to try and weed out entities that were engaging in this kind of behavior. Some of them happened to be right wing groups. But they weren’t alone. Left wing groups also tried to gain the benefit.

Both sides should be prohibited as per the terms of IRC 501(c)(4) and associated regulations, rulings, and IRS materials.

Congress has refused to remedy the situation except for the GOP efforts to try and gut the IRS ability to vet entities seeking this exemption and punish the IRS for doing the job that Congress intended by writing the statute the way it did.

There are any number of real fixes for this - eliminate the exemption for political entities, provide an exemption specifically for any entity that engages in any kind of political activity, etc.

But the GOP uses the anti-government hatred to feed its insatiable need for campaign contributions, and anti-IRS rhetoric feeds that need like none other.

Yet, Issa’s investigations have found… bupkus as far as targeting of right wing groups to exclusion of all other groups. Issa specifically sought out only one kind of fact from the IRS and IG. He wanted to ignore the other side altogether, but when that’s taken into account, it shows the IRS was doing its job as intended.

243 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:44:39am

re: #240 Pie-onist Overlord

They like to use III% (Roman numeral for 3, followed by a percent sign which MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE since Roman numerals are always whole numbers, not fractions or decimals)

They do it because III looks like 111 not 3.

How…Foreign of them.
/

244 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:45:21am

re: #239 Targetpractice

What, drew their gun at the first sign of “trouble”? Yeah, I can see a world where people’s first instinct is to go for their gun if “threatened.” That word’s got gun-related death statistics that make ours pale in comparison.

Yeah the whole “An armed society is a polite society” is nonsense frankly. You’ve got too many people who are all too eager to shoot to kill over something mundane like not liking the noise level of music or being pissed that they egged your house.

245 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:02am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Yeah the whole “An armed society is a polite society” is nonsense frankly. You’ve got too many people who are all too eager to shoot to kill over something mundane like not liking the noise level of music or being pissed that they egged your house.

Texting in a movie theater.

246 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:03am
247 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:04am

re: #210 b.d.

The 1st place and undefeated Houston Astros.

(I will never be able to type that again, forgive me)

Yeah, enjoy that while it lasts. They’ll be stinking up the joint in no time.

I moved to Houston when I was a kid and lived there for 17 years. I totally feel your pain.

248 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:13am

re: #243 Varek Raith

How…Foreign of them.
/

What have the Roman numerals ever done for us?

249 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:29am

re: #240 Pie-onist Overlord

In a 140-twitterverse, every character is sacred, so it must be done with a specific purpose - like you say.

250 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:51am

re: #248 GeneJockey

What have the Roman numerals ever done for us?

Confuse me for one!
/

251 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:53am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Yeah the whole “An armed society is a polite society” is nonsense frankly. You’ve got too many people who are all too eager to shoot to kill over something mundane like not liking the noise level of music or being pissed that they egged your house.

Or walking with a hoodie and being black in Florida.

252 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 7:47:30am

re: #235 Targetpractice

I keep wondering what Tim McVeigh was in their black/white world.

Duh. He was a lone wolf.

253 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:48:29am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Yeah the whole “An armed society is a polite society” is nonsense frankly. You’ve got too many people who are all too eager to shoot to kill over something mundane like not liking the noise level of music or being pissed that they egged your house.

Ah, but you see those weren’t ‘Responsible Gun Owners’, and never had been, or they wouldn’t have shot somebody.

254 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 7:48:33am

re: #240 Pie-onist Overlord

They like to use III% (Roman numeral for 3, followed by a percent sign which MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE since Roman numerals are always whole numbers, not fractions or decimals)

They do it because III looks like 111 not 3.

Not that simple. the Threeper symbols go back to the Bill Clinton era militias. “Copyright” of the III has caused vicious battles between factions of the nutcases—basically the True Believers vs the scam artists who are pushing the American Redoubt and their ‘Citadel’. Googling “III Patriot” will take you down their rabbit hole.

255 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:48:42am

re: #252 Lidane

Duh. He was a lone wolf.

They’re still Derping about “John Doe #2” who looked kinda sorta like a brown, foreign, MUSLIM.

256 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:49:57am

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

Texting in a movie theater.

Yep. Agh. Hurts your head thinking about it since these are all things that we’ve all done I’m sure and they got people killed by morons who shoot first before thinking “Hey I might actually kill someone.”

257 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 7:50:14am
258 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:50:33am

re: #251 Mattand

Or walking with a hoodie and being black in Florida.

Yep. Too many assholes with guns out there who think having a gun is permission to end another’s life. Makes me ill.

259 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 7:51:14am

re: #252 Lidane

Duh. He was a lone wolf sovereign citizen.

to some of the extremists, anyway.

260 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:51:22am

re: #253 GeneJockey

Ah, but you see those weren’t ‘Responsible Gun Owners’, and never had been, or they wouldn’t have shot somebody.

Yeah “crazy people” aka the NRA’s scapegoat for every asshole who kills someone with a gun.

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:52:11am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Yeah “crazy people” aka the NRA’s scapegoat for every asshole who kills someone with a gun.

But they don’t want background checks which might possibly prevent some of these “crazy people” from getting a bunch of guns.

262 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 7:52:12am

re: #214 b.d.

$50 that DuPont is a republican.

opensecrets.org

RICHARDS, ROBERT
WILMINGTON,DE 19807 RICHARDS LAYTON & FINGER 10/1/13 $1,000 Republican State Cmte of Delaware (R)

263 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:52:33am

So I see that some right wing asshole called for mass murder against Muslims in the wake of yesterday’s shooting at Fort Hood. Way to sound like Bin Laden asswipe.

264 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:53:18am

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

But they don’t want background checks which might possibly prevent some of these “crazy people” from getting a bunch of guns.

Yep. But they’re all okay with blaming movies and video games but we can’t talk about guns so go figure.

265 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:54:05am

re: #242 lawhawk

The IRS job is to administer the IRC. It means preventing entities from obtaining tax benefits and status they are not entitled to.

The funny thing is, I’ve seen wingnuts claim that Obama won reelection in part because the IRS targeted right wing groups.

Wrap your mind around that, for a moment. Obama won, because groups that filed for tax exempt status based on not being primarily political were investigated to determine whether they were primarily political, so they were not able, somehow, to exert enough political influence.

Or something.

266 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 7:54:36am
267 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 7:55:12am

re: #266 NJDhockeyfan

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My shock, let me show you.

268 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 7:56:26am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

So I see that some right wing asshole called for mass murder against Muslims in the wake of yesterday’s shooting at Fort Hood. Way to sound like Bin Laden asswipe.

Didn’t you see the follow-up. It was “satire” and everyone fell for it.
:p

269 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 7:56:57am

re: #266 NJDhockeyfan

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That’s a lie! Euromaidan planned it all! They killed their own! The right-wing fascists threw out the rightfully elected government over a pack of lies!! FALSE FLAG!!!

270 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:58:00am

re: #268 Feline Fearless Leader

Didn’t you see the follow-up. It was “satire” and everyone fell for it.
:p

Missed that. Just saw the headline here since I was out all day yesterday. Ah yes, satire, so many budding Jonathan Swifts on the right!

271 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:58:01am

re: #269 Targetpractice

That’s a lie! Euromaidan planned it all! They killed their own! The right-wing fascists threw out the rightfully elected government over a pack of lies!! FALSE FLAG!!!

Antisemitic right wing fascists, don’t forget antisemitic!

272 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 7:59:13am

re: #265 GeneJockey

The funny thing is, I’ve seen wingnuts claim that Obama won reelection in part because the IRS targeted right wing groups.

Wrap your mind around that, for a moment. Obama won, because groups that filed for tax exempt status based on not being primarily political were investigated to determine whether they were primarily political, so they were not able, somehow, to exert enough political influence.

Or something.

They also convince themselves everytime they lose it’s because they weren’t conservative enough because that’s why they’re losing. I want Santorum or Cruz to be the nominee just to prove how stupid that is but then again, they’ll make that excuse for them too. Seen it here with Cuccinnelli of all people.

273 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 7:59:13am
274 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 7:59:25am

Exactly. No one can predict a rogue.

Killeen mayor: ‘Unreasonable’ to expect Fort Hood security to be any tighter

statesman.com

275 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 7:59:46am
276 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:01:15am

re: #273 Lidane

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Of course, FNC knows nothing better to do than to stir up racial hatred. Ailes did work for Nixon when Nixon started the Southern Strategy after all.

277 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:02:18am

re: #275 Chrysicat

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They have a right to boycott the mall but I’m glad a mall’s telling these psychos “No, our malls aren’t a place for you to bring your gun to, you stupid psychos.”

278 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 8:03:19am
279 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 8:03:32am

re: #275 Chrysicat

Oh, man - Propertarians versus Gun Nuts. Where’s my popcorn?

280 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:03:45am
281 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 8:05:29am

re: #198 Timothy Watson

You would think that given the number of friendly-fire incidents that military has every year, people would be a little more intelligent about having military personnel (or civilians) firing on one another with absolutely no way for authorities to know who they should shoot.

If you want to defend even your own home with a gun, you need training, solid nerves and good situational awareness. Those skills do not come over the counter at the Wal-Mart sporting section.

282 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 8:05:41am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Of course, FNC knows nothing better to do than to stir up racial hatred. Ailes did work for Nixon when Nixon started the Southern Strategy after all.

But I thought liberals were the REAL racists?

283 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 8:05:45am

re: #278 Pie-onist Overlord

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“We have no idea who your target is, what he looks like, or where he’s at at this present time. Shoot anybody with a gun who looks like he’s in a hurry to get somewhere.”

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284 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 8:06:23am

re: #283 Targetpractice

“We have no idea who your target is, what he looks like, or where he’s at at this present time. Shoot anybody with a gun who looks like he’s in a hurry to get somewhere.”

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What could possibly go wrong?

285 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 3, 2014 8:06:29am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

LET’S KEEP THIS STUPID, SIMPLE

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so you can bear a gun as long as you smile?

286 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 8:06:40am

re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You would think that given the number of friendly-fire incidents that military has every year, people would be a little more intelligent about having military personnel (or civilians) firing on one another with absolutely no way for authorities to know who they should shoot.

If you want to defend even your own home with a gun, you need training, solid nerves and good situational awareness. Those skills do not come over the counter at the Wal-Mart sporting section.

What, guns aren’t magic talismans that instantly impart knowledge and experience upon their wielder? Hollywood lied to me!!!

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287 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 8:07:09am

re: #278 Pie-onist Overlord
#FortHood personnel told once again to ‘shelter in place’ while being gunned down. Ya think ‘lock and load’ might be a better option? #tcot

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Yes… Because the effect of now having multiple people running around with weapons drawn, with no distinctive markings to identify the actual SHOOTER can’t possibly result in “Friendly Fire” incidents.

People are acting like Obama disarmed the Military. 25+ years ago when I was a young private, even then you had to register your firearms on post, if you lived in the barracks you had to keep them secured in the Arms Room, and you sure as hell couldn’t just carry while in uniform.

IDIOTS.
RBS

288 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 3, 2014 8:07:11am

re: #278 Pie-onist Overlord

TRoYPaLMeR:~$ ‘s gun fire experience was no doubt honed playing CS, and watching episodes of 24. Real men don’t seek cover. They forge on ahead amid a spray of bullets, unharmed because they haz guns!

289 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:07:42am

Rain, snow in northern California brought only short-term drought improvements - @NBCLA
read more on nbclosangeles.com

290 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 8:07:57am

re: #284 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

That’s so severe that I think I’d insist on writing ‘possiblie’ instead… :-p

291 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:08:03am

re: #282 GeneJockey

But I thought liberals were the REAL racists?

Wonder what would happen if you told the KKK that they were liberals.

292 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 8:10:43am
293 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 8:10:47am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi

TRoYPaLMeR:~$ ‘s gun fire experience was no doubt honed playing CS, and watching episodes of 24. Real men don’t seek cover. They forge on ahead amid a spray of bullets, unharmed because they haz guns!

Yeah, the only danger you face rushing into battle is that you’ll get red jam smearing in your face and only for a few seconds if you hide behind cover. And even if you do get gunned down like some n00b, you’ll respawn at the start of the next round.

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294 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 8:12:14am

OT, but half the time I hit Dkos this morning I get the ‘Down For Maintenance’ page. I wonder if it’s related to the WSJ using their image on Koch’s editorial?
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295 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:13:17am

re: #292 Chrysicat

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Yep and this is the problem with having guns on campuses. Your “good guy with a gun” could easily end up being a “dead guy with a gun.” But I understand gun fuckers think real life is a video game where in which the shooter kills you or you kill someone who isn’t the shooter you can just restart at the latest checkpoint.

296 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:14:39am

This is the kind of propaganda being slung about on “christian” TV and radio.

Sweden is like North Korea!

297 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 8:14:53am

re: #292 Chrysicat

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No.
You see, bad guys have a red outline.

298 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 8:14:58am

A reminder: “Responsible gun owners” are the ones that believe it would have been a good idea for a whole bunch of people to be running around a base with their guns out, none of them knowing who the attacker was, how many of them there were or what they looked like — only that somebody with a gun was shooting other people who may or may not have guns.

An entire nation of idiots.

299 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:17:02am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

This is the kind of propaganda being slung about on “christian” TV and radio.

Sweden is like North Korea!

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Pat would like actual North Korea quite well I imagine.

300 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:17:29am

re: #297 Varek Raith

No.
You see, bad guys have a red outline.

And if you shoot them, you can always replay if you have another quarter.

301 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:17:50am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

As long as he could be dictator for life. : )

302 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 8:18:30am

re: #301 Justanotherhuman

As long as he could be dictator for life. : )

and worshipped like a living god.

303 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:21:22am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

This is the kind of propaganda being slung about on “christian” TV and radio.

Sweden is like North Korea!

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Funny, too, that the woman in the Dale Hurd segment wasn’t ID’d, nor were any of those Swedish reporters named, either.

So they found a woman who Julian Assange didn’t try to pick up when he was there and she’s still in poutrage mode?

304 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 8:21:32am

re: #9 Killgore Trout

I’m a bit confused. We don’t know the motivation yet but it’s entirely possible that is was related to his mental state. Are people objecting to this being reported?

Because saying, “The gunman might have PTSD,” is not reporting. It’s guessing, and it continues the demonization of the mentally ill..

305 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 8:25:19am

re: #297 Varek Raith

re: #300 HappyWarrior

SEGA PRESENTS: VIRTUA HOOD

Youtube Video

306 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 3, 2014 8:26:43am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Yeah, the only danger you face rushing into battle is that you’ll get red jam smearing in your face and only for a few seconds if you hide behind cover. And even if you do get gunned down like some n00b, you’ll respawn at the start of the next round.

The main thing to remember is don’t hide near red barrels.

307 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 8:28:59am

re: #306 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

The main thing to remember is don’t hide near red barrels.

Yeah, splash damage sucks…

308 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 8:32:55am

One thing I learned this morning is that there was news that would make CNN stop flailing the missing plane for at least a little while.

309 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:34:01am

Greenwald quotes from a James Risen & Eric Lichtblau piece from 2009 about the NSA and repeats gossip from it. Observe how he frames and quotes from the following paragraph taken from the article, the following of which is complete.

“The former analyst added that his instructors had warned against committing any abuses, telling his class that another analyst had been investigated because he had improperly accessed the personal e-mail of former President Bill Clinton.”

ETA: GG wouldn’t know what truth is if it hit him in the face. This isn’t journalism he’s doing, and he knows it. It’s fiction—cleverly done, but still fiction.

310 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 8:34:41am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Yeah, the only danger you face rushing into battle is that you’ll get red jam smearing in your face and only for a few seconds if you hide behind cover. And even if you do get gunned down like some n00b, you’ll respawn at the start of the next round.

///

I got XCOM: Enemy Unknown and I’m impressed with the combat system. You have to have your soldiers dash from cover to cover with their teammates covering them, and it doesn’t always work.

Plus you don’t get your troops back when they die. My memorial wall is getting rather full.

311 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 8:35:17am
312 Teukka  Apr 3, 2014 8:36:54am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

This is the kind of propaganda being slung about on “christian” TV and radio.

Sweden is like North Korea!

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Just so you get how extremely disconnected from reality Pat Robertson is… The government in Sweden is a centre-right coalition, lead by Moderaterna (m), which is as conservative as they come, IIRC they are a sister party of the Republicans. And they have been in power since 2006.

And for each year, the delay between a particular propaganda line being used by the Republicans and Tea-partiers in the US to it being used by the “Moderates” ((sic(!)) )ROTFLMAO) in Sweden is becoming shorter and shorter.

And it is at this juncture in the comment you are expected to simuntanelously facepalm and headdesk and hit the NOPE buttons under your keyboards.

313 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 8:36:55am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

This is the kind of propaganda being slung about on “christian” TV and radio.

Sweden is like North Korea!

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Not long ago on another forum I had someone compare Canada to North Korea because both had “socialized healthcare.” I lambasted him for being an ignorant moron.

The mods on the forum told me to tone it down or I’d be banned.

I don’t hang there anymore.

314 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 8:37:01am

re: #306 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

The main thing to remember is don’t hide near red barrels.

Also, melee weapons>>>Guns.

315 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 8:37:38am

re: #310 Romantic Heretic

I got XCOM: Enemy Unknown and I’m impressed with the combat system. You have to have your soldiers dash from cover to cover with their teammates covering them, and it doesn’t always work.

Plus you don’t get your troops back when they die. My memorial wall is getting rather full.

Heh. Most of the people I know, faced with that type of game, would save-scum it to death. And is it still turn-based, or RTS?

316 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 8:37:41am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Pat would like actual North Korea quite well I imagine.

As long as he got to be “Beloved Leader.”

317 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 8:39:41am

The only ‘shooter’ games I liked were the Metal Gear Solid series.
Not so much shooting as sneaking. Great fun.

318 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 8:40:46am

HURR HURR U CAN’T BLAME BUSH FOR EMBASSY ATTACKS BECAUSE ALL TEH PEOPLE KILLED WAS JUST TEH BROWNS NOT REAL HUMANZ!!!!!!!!

319 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 8:41:44am

re: #314 Varek Raith

Also, melee weapons>>>Guns.

They need to implement one of those games with accurate artillery and blast effects. Then let them loose in a non-urban setting where there is not quite so much cover and watch what happens.

320 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 8:42:23am

re: #304 Romantic Heretic

Because saying, “The gunman might have PTSD,” is not reporting. It’s guessing, and it continues the demonization of the mentally ill..

Fort Hood Shooter’s Facebook Page Puts Face to Rampage

“He was undergoing behavioral health, psychiatric treatment for depression and anxiety and a variety of other psychological and psychiatric issues. … He was not diagnosed, as of today, with PTSD, he was undergoing a diagnosis process to determine if he had PTSD. That is a lengthy process.”

I see no reason why this shouldn’t be discussed as a possible factor in the shooting. Of course irresponsible discussions such as “Kill all the Muslims” or “Kill all the PTSD sufferers” is not helpful but there are facts regarding the case that shouldn’t be hidden because someone might take offense.

321 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 8:42:27am

re: #315 Chrysicat

Heh. Most of the people I know, faced with that type of game, would save-scum it to death. And is it still turn-based, or RTS?

Turn based.

So far my biggest problem is handling panic. About a quarter of the nations in The Council are shitting their drawers at the moment and I don’t have the satellites or uplink capability to calm them down.

But I’m still a noob and still feeling my way through the game.

322 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 8:43:15am

NYT 2005:

The man said it rained cats and dogs

Glenn Greenwald:

In 2005, The New York Times reported that felines and canines were literally falling out from the sky

323 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 8:44:47am
324 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 8:45:31am

re: #321 Romantic Heretic

Turn based.

So far my biggest problem is handling panic. About a quarter of the nations in The Council are shitting their drawers at the moment and I don’t have the satellites or uplink capability to calm them down.

But I’m still a noob and still feeling my way through the game.

I’ve found the best way to keep panic down is to save satellite launches til the end of the month, just before a Council transmission. Also keep in mind that if you do real well on a terror mission, it brings down panic across that continent by 1-2 notches. And the big missions, like the alien base mission, automatically bring down global panic 2 notches one completed.

325 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:45:52am

Chief of Staff for US Army Ray Odierno: Alleged Fort Hood shooter spent 9 years in Puerto Rico National Guard, was very experienced soldier - @NBCNews
end of alert

326 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 8:47:27am

So, I just got to my building’s very own Schneider (for those of you who remember One Day At A Time). The power went out totally when I switched on a light, and the fellow who has the key for the utility room and the electrical panels lives on the ninth floor. He’s a retired electrician, so he’s always home, and when he’s not, another retired electrician on the 12th floor fills in.

Good things to know.

327 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 8:47:35am

re: #323 Gus

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“We do know that this soldier had behavioral health and mental health issues and was being treated for that,” said Lt. Gen. Mark Milley, head of the Army’s III Corps at the Texas post.

It may have been his mental state but also recent changes in medication can cause some severe reaction in some people.

328 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 8:47:58am

re: #325 Justanotherhuman

Chief of Staff for US Army Ray Odierno: Alleged Fort Hood shooter spent 9 years in Puerto Rico National Guard, was very experienced soldier - @NBCNews
end of alert

Wait, if that’s true, how was he still an E-4? Don’t they wash you out if you don’t make Sergeant by a certain time post-enlistment?

329 GunstarGreen  Apr 3, 2014 8:48:03am

re: #317 Varek Raith

The only ‘shooter’ games I liked were the Metal Gear Solid series.
Not so much shooting as sneaking. Great fun.

If you like good stealth games with a serious focus on not getting caught, you might enjoy Mark of the Ninja, or any of the Tenchu games from Wrath of Heaven or earlier.

330 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 8:50:05am

the worst thing about Fallon’s skit with Palin is that is clogs up my newsfeed searching for the latest developments with Russia/Ukraine with pop culture stuff.

331 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 8:50:18am

re: #327 Killgore Trout

It may have been his mental state but also recent changes in medication can cause some severe reaction in some people.

The Jones crowd are blaming the shooting on SSRIs, which they say the Army admitted the guy was on and are linked to numerous other mass shootings.

332 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 8:51:27am

Because baseball is more important than the birth of your child:

334 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 8:52:06am

re: #331 Targetpractice

The Jones crowd are blaming the shooting on SSRIs, which they say the Army admitted the guy was on and are linked to numerous other mass shootings.

Mind control! Fluoride!

335 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 8:53:56am

re: #322 b.d.

NYT 2005:

Glenn Greenwald:

Did you notice that Risen and Lichtblau were repeating gossip, too? That should never have slipped by an editor since it obviously wasn’t verified.

If they had gone to the instructor who allegedly said it, they wouldn’t have had to name him or her, but would at least have interviewed and had notes about whether it was true or not. Instead, they take the word of an allegedly disgraced analyst, a former, unnamed employee, allegedly of the NSA.

Also, I think Rush Holt is a bit too close to Greenwald in all this as well. What has he leaked?

336 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 8:53:57am

re: #334 Killgore Trout

Mind control! Fluoride!

Don’t forget HAARP!! and of course, CHEMTRAILS!!

*smh*

337 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 8:54:38am

re: #320 Killgore Trout

Fort Hood Shooter’s Facebook Page Puts Face to Rampage

I see no reason why this shouldn’t be discussed as a possible factor in the shooting. Of course irresponsible discussions such as “Kill all the Muslims” or “Kill all the PTSD sufferers” is not helpful but there are facts regarding the case that shouldn’t be hidden because someone might take offense.

I do see a reason. It’s prejudice.

The huge majority of the mentally ill, including myself, are the most peaceable people. No wise person would accept a person’s colour or religion as a factor in such an event. They wouldn’t mention diabetes or cancer.

By hypothesizing about a person’s mental state before the facts are in is prejudice.

The original Tweet that started this discussion states there is no empirical link between PTSD and violent behaviour. Your response, so it seems to me, challenged that observation. You made it clear you do believe his mental state was a cause of his actions.

And I’m challenging you on this point. It’s false. Although his mental state might have influenced his behaviour it is not the cause of his actions.

338 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 8:56:12am
339 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 9:00:14am

re: #324 Targetpractice

I’ve found the best way to keep panic down is to save satellite launches til the end of the month, just before a Council transmission. Also keep in mind that if you do real well on a terror mission, it brings down panic across that continent by 1-2 notches. And the big missions, like the alien base mission, automatically bring down global panic 2 notches one completed.

That’s what I’m going to try this month.

The two chokepoints are engineers and money. There aren’t enough engineers to build the uplinks required to control enough satellites at the beginning of the game. The satellites take a long time to build and so do the uplinks, and none of this is cheap.

Ah well. Still learning.

340 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 9:00:47am

re: #332 Lidane

Because baseball is more important than the birth of your child:

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Not to mention the baseball season is really long. Murphy missing three games isn’t going to have a damn to do with why the Mets won’t make the playoffs again.

341 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 9:02:47am

Looks like someone found an opportunity.

BREAKING: Suspicious device reported in Killeen neighborhood

kcentv.com

Not related to Ft Hood shootings.

342 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 9:02:51am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Not to mention the baseball season is really long. Murphy missing three games isn’t going to have a damn to do with why the Mets won’t make the playoffs again.

Ouch. As a fan of a team almost as hopeless as the Mets, TRUE, but Ouch.

343 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 9:03:04am

re: #318 Pie-onist Overlord

Curiously, they leave out the 2002 Bali bombing of the consulate in Indonesia, which occurred nearly concurrent with the other bombings of locations favored by Westerners. 202 people killed in all, including 7 Americans in that series of bombings.

The bomb that detonated at the consular facility injured one person.

It also ignores that the Karachi consular facilities were repeatedly attacked, and that diplomat David Foy was killed in an attack at the Marriott next door in the 2006 attack (the “1 American”. Guess he’s chopped liver compared to the four killed in Benghazi when the DoD says they couldn’t do anything to respond, and have since put in place a plan to respond to these kinds of events in most parts of the world (mostly North Africa, Europe, and parts of the Middle East in range of the newly deployed rapid response force).

It also ignores that the House has refused to act on the State Department security funds requests.

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 9:03:04am

LOLWUT

345 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 9:03:49am

re: #343 lawhawk

Curiously, they leave out the 2002 Bali bombing of the consulate in Indonesia, which occurred nearly concurrent with the other bombings of locations favored by Westerners. 202 people killed in all, including 7 Americans in that series of bombings.

The bomb that detonated at the consular facility injured one person.

It also ignores that the Karachi consular facilities were repeatedly attacked, and that diplomat David Foy was killed in an attack at the Marriott next door in the 2006 attack (the “1 American”. Guess he’s chopped liver compared to the four killed in Benghazi when the DoD says they couldn’t do anything to respond, and have since put in place a plan to respond to these kinds of events in most parts of the world (mostly North Africa, Europe, and parts of the Middle East in range of the newly deployed rapid response force).

It also ignores that the House has refused to act on the State Department security funds requests.

Not to mention the 241 Americans killed in Beirut on Reagan’s watch.

346 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 9:03:59am

re: #342 Chrysicat

Ouch. As a fan of a team almost as hopeless as the Mets, TRUE, but Ouch.

I honestly wouldn’t have made that jab if he had played for most teams but screw the 1969 Miracle Mets!

347 ObserverArt  Apr 3, 2014 9:04:22am

I have a simple 2-part question about all this gun violence and the typical response from the gun nutters saying more guns in the hands of the soldiers at Ft. Hood would have stopped the latest shooting.

Part A. Why did the Army feel for so many decades there was no reason for everyone on base to be carrying?

Part B. Why for so many many years did a majority of Americans feel they could get through the day without carrying a gun to protect themselves from all the bad guys? (And to properly answer, one needs to consider FBI crime rates show that overall crime is down over the last couple decades).

Now, after pondering some answers to those…consider that over the past 20 years there have been more and more calls for people to arm themselves and in the same time these spree/mass shootings are becoming more and more common. More gun shooting for stupid stuff like road rage and settling a simple argument. More shootings in domestic violence cases, more shooting due to poor gun storage and handling.

Simply put…does it seem that the more America arms itself the more shootings increase? Does it seem the more guns there are the more incidents like the ex-cop shooting the movie phone text guy we see? More shootings of innocent people like those in trouble or in an accident and going up to a strangers house to ask for help? More shootings from police overreaction thinking others have a gun?

See where I am going with this?

So, in all reality…can we construe there are more shootings when there are more people thinking they have to have a gun to protect themselves? Can we say that even with more people being armed there are more killings?

It sure seems with more and more pro-gun thinking and ‘they’re coming after your guns’ scare tactics we see more shootings? In the time the NRA has gone all political and against any type of gun control it actually appears they have done a big disservice to ALL Americans with their politics - even those that buy into thinking they are safer with a gun. Stats (if they were allowed to be really collected and analyzed) would probably show no one is safer with more guns.

Can we say the gun nuts are in fact nuts and the current NRA may be one of the worst things that ever happened to ALL, even gun owners?

348 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 9:07:07am

re: #347 ObserverArt

I have a simple 2-part question about all this gun violence and the typical response from the gun nutters saying more guns in the hands of the soldiers at Ft. Hood would have stopped the latest shooting.

Part A. Why did the Army feel for so many decades there was no reason for everyone on base to be carrying?

Part B. Why for so many many years did a majority of Americans feel they could get through the day without carrying a gun to protect themselves from all the bad guys? (And to properly answer, one needs to consider FBI crime rates show that overall crime is down over the last couple decades).

Now, after pondering some answers to those…consider that over the past 20 years there have been more and more calls for people to arm themselves and in the same time these spree/mass shootings are becoming more and more common. More gun shooting for stupid stuff like road rage and settling a simple argument. More shootings in domestic violence cases, more shooting due to poor gun storage and handling.

Simply put…does it seem that the more America arms itself the more shootings increase? Does it seem the more guns there are the more incidents like the ex-cop shooting the movie phone text guy we see? More shootings of innocent people like those in trouble or in an accident and going up to a strangers house to ask for help? More shootings from police overreaction thinking others have a gun?

See where I am going with this?

So, in all reality…can we construe there are more shootings when there are more people thinking they have to have a gun to protect themselves? Can we say that even with more people being armed there are more killings?

It sure seems with more and more pro-gun thinking and ‘they’re coming after your guns’ scare tactics we see more shootings? In the time the NRA has gone all political and against any type of gun control it actually appears they have done a big disservice to ALL Americans with their politics - even those that buy into thinking they are safer with a gun. Stats (if they were allowed to be really collected and analyzed) would probably show no one is safer with more guns.

Can we say the gun nuts are in fact nuts and the current NRA may be one of the worst things that ever happened to ALL, even gun owners?

The NRA does the nation a disservice when it relies on fear of guns being confiscated by Democratic presidents whether his name be Clinton or Obama to get people to give them more money, buy more guns, etc. I’m sick of the NRA and like minded groups implying that if you don’t like or own a gun that it makes you less of an American. I got nothing against the individual who wants to protect themselves or their family, enjoys hunting or target shooting, or even likes collecting old guns from a bygone era but I don’t like guns and not wanting them in my household doesn’t make me less of an American despite what that pathetic shithead LaPierre believes.

349 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:08:26am

re: #337 Romantic Heretic

I do see a reason. It’s prejudice.

The huge majority of the mentally ill, including myself, are the most peaceable people. No wise person would accept a person’s colour or religion as a factor in such an event. They wouldn’t mention diabetes or cancer.

By hypothesizing about a person’s mental state before the facts are in is prejudice.

The original Tweet that started this discussion states there is no empirical link between PTSD and violent behaviour. Your response, so it seems to me, challenged that observation. You made it clear you do believe his mental state was a cause of his actions.

And I’m challenging you on this point. It’s false. Although his mental state might have influenced his behaviour it is not the cause of his actions.

If the guy was a White Supremacist, Oathkeeper or Tea Partier we’d have no problem discussing that as possible motivation. As long as the reporting and speculation is accurate and reasonable I have no issue with it. Special interest and identity politics advocates will always complain that certain things shouldn’t be reported or discussed, I don’t think that’s helpful in educating the public or forming informed opinions.

350 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 9:08:49am

re: #332 Lidane

The CBA gives players the right to take up to 3 days for leave for the birth of their child(ren). Murphy’s taking a leave as allowed in the CBA.

Why is this even an issue? Oh wait. It’s troglodytes like Francesca and Esiason on sports talk radio trying to gin up a controversy.

Heck, Francesca has been shown to be unable to make it through an actual show without dozing off.

It’s a nontroversy as far as the Mets and Murphy are concerned. It reveals more about Francesca, Esiason and the rest who think that the time away to celebrate the birth of a child will somehow be what keeps the team from the playoffs.

Umm, it’s the bullpen and starting pitching that will keep the Mets from making the playoffs - the same issues that have dogged them for years. Well, that and timely hitting.

351 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:13:36am

Russia tell US to stop Crimea ‘tantrums’ by ‘doing yoga and watching comedy’

A SENIOR Russian diplomat has presented a defiant stance to his US counterparts, urging them to “practice yoga” and “watch some comedy sketch shows” in response to his country’s invasion of Crimea.

Bonus: Artist’s rendition

352 HappyWarrior  Apr 3, 2014 9:15:02am

re: #350 lawhawk

The CBA gives players the right to take up to 3 days for leave for the birth of their child(ren). Murphy’s taking a leave as allowed in the CBA.

Why is this even an issue? Oh wait. It’s troglodytes like Francesca and Esiason on sports talk radio trying to gin up a controversy.

Heck, Francesca has been shown to be unable to make it through an actual show without dozing off.

It’s a nontroversy as far as the Mets and Murphy are concerned. It reveals more about Francesca, Esiason and the rest who think that the time away to celebrate the birth of a child will somehow be what keeps the team from the playoffs.

Umm, it’s the bullpen and starting pitching that will keep the Mets from making the playoffs - the same issues that have dogged them for years. Well, that and timely hitting.

The Mets have hitters? But yeah their BP blew two leads to the Nats on OD I saw. Honestly, shit like this is part of why I hate the “macho” side of sports culture. I assume that this is Murphy’s first child and that’s an important event in any man’s life if he’s a million dollar athlete or working at a lumberyard like my brother who recently became a father.

353 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 9:15:19am

Watched this again last night and guess what I saw? The first sighting of a teabagger hat (woman wearing hat w/teabags hanging from it). The movie came out in 1983. I can’t imagine those humorless fucks watching Monty Python, but you never know.

archive.org

354 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:19:25am

I’m not a fan of Gawker but I applaud the effort
Gawker bans ‘Internet Slang’

“We want to sound like regular adult human beings, not Buzzfeed writers or Reddit commenters,” new Gawker Editor Max Read says in a memo to the publication’s writers. Words like “epic,” “pwn” and “derp” are no longer welcome on the site. Read also says the word “massive” is “never to appear on the website Gawker dot com.”

355 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 9:21:30am

re: #354 Killgore Trout

I’m not a fan of Gawker but I applaud the effort
Gawker bans ‘Internet Slang’

Yes, Gawker. The bastion of seriousness.

356 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 9:21:56am

re: #354 Killgore Trout

I’m not a fan of Gawker but I applaud the effort
Gawker bans ‘Internet Slang’

Gawker sucks massive hairy derpballs.

357 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 9:22:18am

Derp.

358 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 9:22:26am

re: #349 Killgore Trout

If the guy was a White Supremacist, Oathkeeper or Tea Partier we’d have no problem discussing that as possible motivation. As long as the reporting and speculation is accurate and reasonable I have no issue with it. Special interest and identity politics advocates will always complain that certain things shouldn’t be reported or discussed, I don’t think that’s helpful in educating the public or forming informed opinions.

We should all have an interest in reporting of facts and discouraging speculation based on prejudice. That’s in the interest of educating the public and forming informed opinions.

Membership in the Oathkeepers would be a fact that would allow reasonable speculation on the person’s interest in violence as a permissible action.

359 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:23:36am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

Gawker sucks massive hairy derpballs.

lol

360 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:24:37am

White Supremacist, Oathkeeper, Tea Partier or Possible PTSD.

One of these things is not like the others.

361 The War TARDIS  Apr 3, 2014 9:25:45am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

Russia can go fuck off.

362 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:26:28am

re: #361 The War TARDIS

Russia can go fuck off.

Russia can do pretty much whatever it wants.

363 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:28:03am

re: #362 Killgore Trout

Russia can do pretty much whatever it wants.

You have yet to offer anything on what we should be doing.

365 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:28:57am

How is everyone?

It is wet and dreary in my part of the world.

366 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:29:21am

Ok, maybe thes sanctions have gone too far, let’s not get carried away
Miley Cyrus concert may be hit by US sanctions

Finnish music fans may find they miss out on planned concerts by a host of stars, including Miley Cyrus and Justin Timberlake, this summer.

Both stars may be forced to cancel their sell-out shows as a result of US sanctions against Russia.

Helsinki’s Hartwall venue is owned by Gennady Timchenko and brothers Arkady and Boris Rotenberg.

All three appear on the US sanctions list as part of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s “inner circle”.

Seriously, everything looks like a belated April Fool’s joke to me this morning.

367 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:31:22am

re: #348 HappyWarrior

The NRA does the nation a disservice when it relies on fear of guns being confiscated by Democratic presidents whether his name be Clinton or Obama to get people to give them more money, buy more guns, etc. I’m sick of the NRA and like minded groups implying that if you don’t like or own a gun that it makes you less of an American. I got nothing against the individual who wants to protect themselves or their family, enjoys hunting or target shooting, or even likes collecting old guns from a bygone era but I don’t like guns and not wanting them in my household doesn’t make me less of an American despite what that pathetic shithead LaPierre believes.

The point, IMHO, of the 2nd Amendment is that firearm ownership is a CHOICE.

I just wish everyone that does choose to own also would choose to TRAIN.

368 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 9:31:59am

re: #362 Killgore Trout

Russia can do pretty much whatever it wants.

Come on. Some NATO member had some strongly worded words about Russia while he was at the American Horticultural Society convention in Davos. //

369 Dr. Matt  Apr 3, 2014 9:32:21am

NHL Prospect Takes Puck To Mouth, Tweets Photo Of Aftermath.

I won’t post the pic; click above, but beware……

370 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 9:32:30am

re: #365 FemNaziBitch

How is everyone?

It is wet and dreary in my part of the world.

Still better your Aurora than mine. 3 inches of snow and still falling.

371 The War TARDIS  Apr 3, 2014 9:32:33am

re: #363 Varek Raith

Forget it. He never really puts forward any new ideas or proposals.

Personally, I would try to focus more on trying to aid moderates in the Caucasus secede. People like the Chechens, Dagestanis, and others have been persecuted for too long.

Force Russia to have to defend many different areas at one time. With the Demographics swinging against the Ethnic Russian Majority in Russia, Russia would bend or break at some point.

372 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:33:28am

re: #347 ObserverArt

Part A. Why did the Army feel for so many decades there was no reason for everyone on base to be carrying?

My understand of this is that soldiers only fire their weapons with orders to do so. On a domestic base, there should be no reason for every soldier to be on alert. Only MP would have weapons.

YMMV

373 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:34:39am

re: #370 Chrysicat

Still better your Aurora than mine. 3 inches of snow and still falling.

The allergy report is being published again. Trees and weeds are in the air.

I’d really rather be in your Aurora.

374 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 9:35:23am

re: #360 Varek Raith

White Supremacist, Oathkeeper, Tea Partier or Possible PTSD.

One of these things is not like the others.

That’s one of my favorite songs.

375 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:35:47am

re: #331 Targetpractice

The Jones crowd are blaming the shooting on SSRIs, which they say the Army admitted the guy was on and are linked to numerous other mass shootings.

I’m so tired of people blaming SSRI’s.

I don’t know where I’d be without them and if anything I am more mellow than I’ve ever been —clean and sober.

376 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:35:57am

Clearly we should be bombing Russia.

377 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 9:36:35am

re: #318 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh, there’s another BEnGhazi!!1 hearing? I’m sure this one will expose….something.

379 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 9:37:44am

re: #369 Dr. Matt

NHL Prospect Takes Puck To Mouth, Tweets Photo Of Aftermath.

I won’t post the pic; click above, but beware……

I always get a chuckle when I go to a Predators game (Nashville’s NHL team), that listed at the bottom of the roster are the official team dentist and official team plastic surgeon.

RBS

380 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 9:39:10am

Well, here’s something you don’t see every day - hopefully, that is.

Monster crocodile ‘which ate four fishermen’ captured in Uganda

A killer crocodile said to have eaten four fisherman has been captured following a four day hunt in a Ugandan village.

The reptile, thought to be aged 80-years-old, weighs 1,000 kg and has been terrorising people living in the Jinja and Mayuge districts on the shores of Lake Victoria.

standard.co.uk

My Ugandan friend is originally from the Mayuge District; I’ll have to ask her about that when I talk to her next time.

381 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:39:30am

re: #368 Gus

Come on. Some NATO member had some strongly worded words about Russia while he was at the American Horticultural Society convention in Davos. //

I stand corrected

382 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:40:32am

Pain is a big part of the picture with my disorder and opiates tend not to work. the Psych meds that are available do take the edge off. Most of them work, in part, by mediating serotonin.

Add opiates and any other drug that also affects serotonin and you get basically a serotonin crash. Double Plus Not Good.

Guess what legal over the counter drug affects serotonin?

ALCOHOL.

I haven’t done the research, but I have to wonder of all these people who blame SSRI’s —does the patient also drink?

383 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 9:40:51am

re: #381 Killgore Trout

I stand corrected

Was going to use another humorous example but free speech is just a theory for some people.

384 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 9:41:12am

re: #378 Varek Raith

Boomer Esiason: MLB player should have forced C-section on wife before Opening Day

Asshole of the day.

Is he even nominated? I thought those were most often politicians…well, or Nugent…

385 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 9:41:23am

re: #362 Killgore Trout

Youtube Video

386 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 9:42:09am

re: #363 Varek Raith

You have yet to offer anything on what we should be doing.

And he never will. KT is nothing but a concern troll. No ideas, no substance, nothing.

387 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:42:10am

re: #385 Lidane

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Youtube Video

388 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:42:46am

TV report: 25 Ukrainian citizens arrested in Russia on suspicion of plotting acts of sabotage

A state-controlled Russian TV station says 25 Ukrainian citizens have been arrested in Russia by the country’s security agency on suspicion of planning sabotage.

NTV television reported Thursday those arrested included three activists from Right Sector, a Ukrainian nationalist group that played a role in the ouster of Ukraine’s pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in February. The report didn’t say when the suspects were arrested or give their names but included footage of three suspects in custody.

NTV also reported the suspects had instructions to take pictures of Russian military movements on the border with Ukraine and were plotting to launch their sabotage last month in Russia.

389 The War TARDIS  Apr 3, 2014 9:43:18am

re: #371 The War TARDIS

Should clarify I mean indirectly. Funnelling money and weapons.

Force Russia to spend blood and money on its own soil. Because of the topography of the Caucasuses, it could quickly bog down into a mini-Afghanistan.

390 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 9:43:22am

Uh oh. Here we go with the tone policing. Hmm. Seen this before.

391 Gus  Apr 3, 2014 9:43:43am

I’m out. Good luck with the tone policing.

392 Amory Blaine  Apr 3, 2014 9:44:47am

re: #89 Lidane

Texas already allows guns in the State Capitol. They made it to where people who have a CHL can bypass the metal detectors that normally take ages, so it’s been a popular thing for reporters and state workers to get licenses so they can get in faster.

So far they’ve resisted putting guns in bars, but it’s a matter of time.

“You can’t bring an iPad or a piece of paper and a pencil in the (Wisconsin Assembly) gallery to take notes of what’s going on,” but “you can bring a gun up there.”

393 Dr. Matt  Apr 3, 2014 9:45:03am

Pat must be off his meds again:
Pat Robertson: Buying stuff ‘by computer’ is the ‘Mark of the Beast’

Amazon Prime is sending me to heellllllL!!!!!!!!!!!!

394 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:45:26am

Yep. Bomb Russia.

395 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 9:45:54am

re: #391 Gus

I’m out. Good luck with the tone policing.

I don’t care for your tone, mister.
/#cancelGus

396 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:46:47am

Dollar Store? WHY?

397 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:46:56am

re: #390 Gus

Uh oh. Here we go with the tone policing. Hmm. Seen this before.

Yes, heaven help us for asking KT to give a straight answer.
;)

398 The War TARDIS  Apr 3, 2014 9:47:18am

re: #394 Varek Raith

Who is that in response to?

399 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:48:35am

re: #398 The War TARDIS

Who is that in response to?

Not you.

400 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 9:49:22am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

CBN invites viewers to donate through credit cards, electronic funds transfers and cash.

So CBN is shilling for Stan?

401 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 9:49:49am

re: #400 Bubblehead II

CBN invites viewers to donate through >credit cards, electronic funds transfers and cash.

So CBN is shilling for Stan?

Stan is the Man with the Plan.
Damn Cylon.

402 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 9:50:21am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

Pat must be off his meds again:
Pat Robertson: Buying stuff ‘by computer’ is the ‘Mark of the Beast’

>Amazon Prime is sending me to heellllllL!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you have against Bitcoins Pat!!!?!?!?!

403 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 9:51:26am

re: #400 Bubblehead II

How’d you know?

404 Bulworth  Apr 3, 2014 9:51:44am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

Bring on the meteor

405 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 9:52:08am

re: #402 b.d.

fake currency death watch, btw $449 can get you 1 Bitcoin if you’d like

406 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 9:52:24am

re: #401 Varek Raith

What does Pat have against toasters?

407 ObserverArt  Apr 3, 2014 9:52:40am

re: #363 Varek Raith

You have yet to offer anything on what we should be doing.

Why should he? We’d be wrong no matter what we did anyway.

And I feel pretty sure in saying that, but then that would be 50-50!

: )

408 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 9:53:07am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

Dollar Store? WHY?

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That’s more than a two bit crime.

409 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 9:53:21am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

Dollar Store? WHY?

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That would be like getting busted for counterfeiting pennies. Lots of work for little reward.

RBS

410 jaunte  Apr 3, 2014 9:53:41am

re: #408 b.d.

They’ve got the Washingtons.

411 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:53:49am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

Pat must be off his meds again:
Pat Robertson: Buying stuff ‘by computer’ is the ‘Mark of the Beast’

>Amazon Prime is sending me to heellllllL!!!!!!!!!!!!

#timetoretire

412 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 9:54:53am

Well that was a TOTAL waste of my time. Today’s interview was a webinar for a health insurance company that had a big part of their sales pitch being that they’re “exempt from the Affordable Care Act” and that they’re helping the small businesses that are being burdened by the law.

They made a lot of flashy promises — Training! Exclusive leads! Stock sharing! Bonuses! Income residuals for as long as your clients are customers! Company trips! But the numbers never looked right to me and the whole thing reeked of bullshit.

The worst part? No direct questions to the guy giving the webinar, no nothing. Just a half hour of sitting there with my phone up to my ear watching a PowerPoint sales pitch to join a company in selling health insurance to small businesses that will still get them in hot water because it’s supposedly outside the ACA. Oh, and I’m supposed to call some area manager to set up a second interview? LOL no. I’ll take my chances with the actual interviews I’m getting from actual companies that will give me a salary and benefits instead of an insurance scam.

413 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 9:55:23am

re: #410 jaunte

They’ve got the Washingtons.

HAND OVER THE SACAGAWEAS AND NOBODY GETS HURT!

414 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 9:55:48am

re: #400 Bubblehead II

CBN invites viewers to donate through >credit cards, electronic funds transfers and cash.

What, no Bitcoin? OUTRAGE!

415 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 9:56:17am

re: #412 Lidane

Well that was a TOTAL waste of my time. Today’s interview was a webinar for a health insurance company that had a big part of their sales pitch being that they’re “exempt from the Affordable Care Act” and that they’re helping the small businesses that are being burdened by the law.

That’s a scam targeting unemployed people.

416 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:56:31am

re: #408 b.d.

That’s more than a two bit crime.

LOL

Seriously, a Class X Felony.

If I were to consider such a thing, it would be for serious booty.

I’m not devious enough to pull it off and I know it.

417 ObserverArt  Apr 3, 2014 9:56:47am

re: #372 FemNaziBitch

My understand of this is that soldiers only fire their weapons with orders to do so. On a domestic base, there should be no reason for every soldier to be on alert. Only MP would have weapons.

YMMV

So, would you say the people in the Department of Defense feel their soldiers are safer without guns? That question goes to the point I am trying to make. And if soldiers, trained in guns, are safer on their base without them, then why aren’t ordinary citizens safer on the streets without others carrying guns?

418 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 9:57:01am

re: #412 Lidane

Sorry Lidane, that stinks.

419 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 9:57:40am

re: #417 ObserverArt

So, would you say the people in the Department of Defense feel their soldiers are safer without guns? That question goes to the point I am trying to make. And if soldiers, trained in guns, are safer on their base without them, then why aren’t ordinary citizens safer on the streets without others carrying guns?

Because, in theory, a Military Base is a controlled situation. The streets of America are not, by law.

420 Mattand  Apr 3, 2014 9:58:34am

re: #412 Lidane

Well that was a TOTAL waste of my time. Today’s interview was a webinar for a health insurance company that had a big part of their sales pitch being that they’re “exempt from the Affordable Care Act” and that they’re helping the small businesses that are being burdened by the law.

They made a lot of flashy promises — Training! Exclusive leads! Stock sharing! Bonuses! Income residuals for as long as your clients are customers! Company trips! But the numbers never looked right to me and the whole thing reeked of bullshit.

The worst part? No direct questions to the guy giving the webinar, no nothing. Just a half hour of sitting there with my phone up to my ear watching a PowerPoint sales pitch to join a company in selling health insurance to small businesses that will still get them in hot water because it’s supposedly outside the ACA. Oh, and I’m supposed to call some area manager to set up a second interview? LOL no. I’ll take my chances with the actual interviews I’m getting from actual companies that will give me a salary and benefits instead of an insurance scam.

Did he end it with a variation of “Greed is good”?

421 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 9:59:34am

re: #415 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s a scam targeting unemployed people.

Oh, but they’re a Better Business Bureau rated company! They’ll give you a long-term career! Y U NOT LIEK LONG TERM CAREER?

Like I said — total bullshit.

422 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 10:01:13am

I wish I had the time today. I may create a list on Twitter for things I’d like to remember to do.

423 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 10:01:40am

re: #420 Mattand

Did he end it with a variation of “Greed is good”?

It might as well have. I only stayed on the call to see the whole pitch, since I’d decided almost immediately that he was full of shit.

424 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 10:04:45am

re: #418 b.d.

Sorry Lidane, that stinks.

I’m not worried. One of the companies I really want got in touch today and they want to meet in person next week. And the interview yesterday went well, so there’s that. I did this webinar today just to see what the whole thing was about.

Total waste of my time, but I finally got to see one of these insurance company pitches first hand.

425 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 10:05:42am

re: #412 Lidane

That sucks.
:(

426 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 10:06:46am

re: #424 Lidane

I’m not worried. One of the companies I really want got in touch today and they want to meet in person next week. And the interview yesterday went well, so there’s that. I did this webinar today just to see what the whole thing was about.

Total waste of my time, but I finally got to see one of these insurance company pitches first hand.

Reminds me of those anti union vids I saw back when I was in retail. Complete and utter bullshit.

427 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 10:06:53am

Breitbart: “Dollard? Never heard of the guy!”

428 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 10:08:28am

Still trying to figure out how satan is involved with e-commerce…

429 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 10:10:53am

re: #406 lawhawk

What does Pat have against toasters?

Oh wait. I figured it out.

Inadequacy.

431 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 10:11:23am

Farrow with a retired Sgt who thinks that the gunman would have been shut down if every enlisted man at Ft. Hood were armed.

W—T—F?!?

432 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 10:11:52am

I wanna change my nic to “whiteness at large”

433 abolitionist  Apr 3, 2014 10:12:30am

re: #428 Varek Raith

Still trying to figure out how satan is involved with e-commerce…

Someone said he’s in the details. :)

434 Lidane  Apr 3, 2014 10:12:34am

re: #427 Targetpractice

Breitbart: “Dollard? Never heard of the guy!”

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When Breitbart disavows you for being too crazy, it’s time to examine your life choices.

435 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 10:13:04am

re: #428 Varek Raith

Still trying to figure out how satan is involved with e-commerce…

Mark of the beast and all that. Satan wants to control the world, so he’s going to get rid of cash and force us all to use credit/debit cards instead.

No Joke

436 Chrysicat  Apr 3, 2014 10:14:00am
437 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 10:14:46am

re: #432 Killgore Trout

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I wanna change my nic to “whiteness at large

Rotating title nominee.

438 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 10:15:43am

re: #428 Varek Raith

Still trying to figure out how satan is involved with e-commerce…

He’s mainly a systems guy, Lilith is a wiz a Data Mining, Lucifer does mainly UI Stuff.

RBS

439 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 10:16:42am

re: #433 abolitionist

Someone said he’s in the details. :)

random code?

440 Floral Giraffe  Apr 3, 2014 10:17:03am

re: #412 Lidane

You’re good, and will find the right place. Today’s webinar does not sound like it!

441 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 10:17:16am

re: #365 FemNaziBitch

How is everyone?

It is wet and dreary in my part of the world.

Partly sunny, high 50s-F, and has been a good day for a lunch-time walk. Supposed to start raining this evening though.

442 abolitionist  Apr 3, 2014 10:17:49am

re: #439 FemNaziBitch

random code?

Nein, nein, nein.

443 Varek Raith  Apr 3, 2014 10:18:25am

re: #442 abolitionist

Nein, nein, nein.

SimCity tax default settings.
I still think Cain was trolling the GOP.

444 ObserverArt  Apr 3, 2014 10:29:19am

re: #419 FemNaziBitch

Because, in theory, a Military Base is a controlled situation. The streets of America are not, by law.

And again…to the point…a controlled situation that has now two times gotten out of control.

What I am trying to get at is are any of us safer with the NRA in its current form and with more and more guns in circulation? If soldiers trained in there use are cautioned and controlled not to have them and stuff like yesterday happens, then how can the uncontrolled streets of America be safe.

And I want to add, I have no problem with guns per say. My father and brothers were all hunters. I’ve been around guns and shot them a few times myself. I grew up and live in areas that most white folk would be fearful in due to bigoted and cliched thinking, and have gotten by without guns.

Where I have problems is with the current NRA and the monster I think they have created for all of us. Through their politic campaigns and what I feel is over-the-top rhetoric they are hurting this country. And that is so sad for an organization that was originally founded to be an education group. An education group that you would think would be out preventing what I think they are creating.

This country needs a real gun education policy that gets to the facts of where we are in 2014. It needs politicians that stand up for my right not to be fearful of some nut going off. For so many of my nearly 60 years I never worried about guns. For the last ten, I can’t say I feel safe with all the guns around. Where the hell are my rights?

I hate to say this, but would there be change if say a gun supporter type politician of even Wayne LaPierre himself were gunned down in a public shooting? I am not asking for that to happen, but what is it going to take to get some real-world, critical thinking about where we are with guns?

I see there is a new thread going…but oh well…I still wanted to get this in.

445 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 10:34:44am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

Dollar Store? WHY?

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On their way to a pole-dancing exhibition.

446 FemNaziBitch  Apr 3, 2014 10:44:56am

re: #444 ObserverArt

This country needs a real gun education policy that gets to the facts of where we are in 2014. It needs politicians that stand up for my right not to be fearful of some nut going off. For so many of my nearly 60 years I never worried about guns. For the last ten, I can’t say I feel safe with all the guns around. Where the hell are my rights

WE do need real gun education. And, yes the NRA is being run by a bunch of kooks. BUT who else is doing firearm education, but the NRA?

I don’t worry about legal guns. I really don’t worry about guns at all. I’ve been around them all my life and have yet to see someone shot or known anyone affected by gun violence. The point being that there are a great many number of other things I am more like to be killed by.

I think the media hype is a big part of the picture here.

447 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 3, 2014 12:10:00pm

re: #362 Killgore Trout

Russia can do pretty much whatever it wants.

Except have a good economy, a non-corrupt police and government, or a replacement birth rate.

Or a meaningful contribution to science.

scimagojr.com

448 Ming  Apr 3, 2014 12:14:00pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

One of these days, somebody really should let these nutters in on the secret that “An armed society is a polite society” was satirical in nature.

Many right-wingers would very much prefer a “polite society”, where the “real Americans” with their guns are so intimidating, that no one says anything very interesting or provocative, and no one even looks all that different from the “mainstream”. No one flaunts their gayness, their liberal opinions, how much they enjoyed last Sunday’s episode of Cosmos, how unhappy they are that their tax dollars are going to the Creationist Museum, how they’ll no longer shop at Hobby Lobby.

Change “polite society” to “intimidated society”, and their slogan makes more sense.


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