Breitbart “News:” Pat Dollard Should Not Call Himself a Contributor

So why is he listed as a columnist at Breitbart “News?”
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So, after genocide-lovin’ wingnut Pat Dollard tweeted yesterday that it was “time for Americans to start slaughtering Muslims in the streets,” Mother Jones contacted Breitbart “News” for comment, since Dollard’s Twitter profile says he’s a contributor for them. The response:

We asked the editor of Breitbart, Alex Marlow, and the site’s publisher, Stephen Bannon, for a comment on Dollard’s slaughter-Muslims tweet. Within minutes, Kurt Bardella, a spokesman for Breitbart News, called and said, Dollard “was not a paid contributor and has not contributed for three years. He should not call himself a contributor.” Asked if Breitbart would consider publishing future articles submitted by Dollard, Bardella replied, “We have no plans to accept anything. We haven’t ruled anything out. But he is not a Breitbart contributor.”

OK, fair enough. If Dollard hasn’t written for them in years, he should probably be called a “former contributor.”

But then, why is he still listed at Breitbart.com as a columnist?

In the real world, when someone is listed as a columnist for a website, that usually tends to mean he’s a columnist for that website.

But in any case, if anyone actually is tempted to doubt that Breitbart “News” supports and encourages this kind of ugly anti-Muslim hate speech, please note: hate group leader Pamela Geller is currently one of their featured writers. Currently. As in, right now.

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275 comments
1 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 3:29:22pm

breitbart.com isn’t fond of being fact-checked, either.

2 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 3:35:32pm

re: #1 darthstar

breitbart.com isn’t fond of being fact-checked, either.

They’ve faithfully carried on the stie’s tradition, established by its namesake. He was a low-rent Rupert Murdoch, and his site has certainly stayed true to that.

3 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 3:36:42pm

If he’s no longer a contributor, then stop treating him as such. Drop his contributor page link, which Charles posted above. Instead, it looks like he’s still got an ongoing relationship with him.

But for them to claim he’s not involved shows that they don’t even know how their site operates - as in using the basic search feature in this instance (and not for the first time either).

4 Kragar  Apr 3, 2014 3:37:11pm

So when does Dollard respond with a video of him having drug fueled pyromaniacal sex with former Breitbart staffers?

5 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 3:38:22pm

Deny, deny, deny. Isn’t that how it goes when they’re caught with their proverbial pants down around their ankles?

They may have scrubbed his page.

breitbart.com

6 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 3:50:25pm

re: #2 palomino

They’ve faithfully carried on the stie’s tradition, established by its namesake. He was a low-rent Rupert Murdoch, and his site has certainly stayed true to that.

Freudian typo? ;-) It IS full of pigs, after all.

7 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 3:51:34pm

Woohoo - the new mobile version of LGF is really coming along. This is going to make the site so much more useable on a mobile device. It uses the latest responsive design techniques to automatically change the format of the site based on the device’s screen size. Those of you with smart phones are going to really like this.

8 TedStriker  Apr 3, 2014 3:53:04pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Woohoo - the new mobile version of LGF is really coming along. This is going to make the site so much more useable on a mobile device. It uses the latest responsive design techniques to automatically change the format of the site based on the device’s screen size. Those of you with smart phones are going to really like this.

Hopefully, you put it live before I go on vacation to Orlando next weekend, so I don’t have to bring my netbook with me.

*drools*

9 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 3:55:15pm

See? Deny, deny, deny. Bullshit.

“UPDATE: Dollard claims the tweet was not in direct reaction to the Ft. Hood shooting that had already become national news at the time he made the comment. Not sure how that makes the tweet any less repulsive, considering the timing too?”

mediaite.com

10 Blue Fielder  Apr 3, 2014 3:55:23pm

“I never met the dead man.”

Breitbart Noir.

11 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 3:58:27pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Woohoo - the new mobile version of LGF is really coming along. This is going to make the site so much more useable on a mobile device. It uses the latest responsive design techniques to automatically change the format of the site based on the device’s screen size. Those of you with smart phones are going to really like this.

will you leave in a link to view LGF in desktop mode even if you are viewing it on a mobile device?

some of us like to be contrary and curmudgeonly with the mobile auto-detect…

12 b.d.  Apr 3, 2014 3:58:29pm

Breitbart’s site must have been hacked and that guy’s name added!! Damn hacking libtards need to be thrown in jail!!

13 Blue Fielder  Apr 3, 2014 3:59:09pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This is going to make the site so much more useable on a mobile device. It uses the latest responsive design techniques to automatically change the format of the site based on the device’s screen size. Those of you with smart phones are going to really like this.

Hopefully it means I can browse in, say, Dolphin Mini without having to constantly nudge the screen just to read. Boo to whoever designed that browser, also - no zoom is no good. And not every site has a mobile version, and certainly those that do don’t always make them easily accessible.

14 ObserverArt  Apr 3, 2014 4:04:41pm

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

See? Deny, deny, deny. Bullshit.

“UPDATE: Dollard claims the tweet was not in direct reaction to the Ft. Hood shooting that had already become national news at the time he made the comment. Not sure how that makes the tweet any less repulsive, considering the timing too?”

mediaite.com

If the internet was like a school playground in my city in the 60s this popping off and then wimping out when called on it would get you a serious butt kicking and you most likely wouldn’t want to go back to school until the next year because you’d be so labeled a dick you couldn’t live it down.

15 TedStriker  Apr 3, 2014 4:07:58pm

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

See? Deny, deny, deny. Bullshit.

“UPDATE: Dollard claims the tweet was not in direct reaction to the Ft. Hood shooting that had already become national news at the time he made the comment. Not sure how that makes the tweet any less repulsive, considering the timing too?”

mediaite.com

Yeah, and I have some prime beachfront property in Arizona…

16 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 4:08:43pm

BTW, the Giants won again today. :)

17 BongCrodny  Apr 3, 2014 4:10:23pm

re: #5 Justanotherhuman

Deny, deny, deny. Isn’t that how it goes when they’re caught with their proverbial pants down around their ankles?

They may have scrubbed his page.

breitbart.com

Pat Dollard has become an “unperson”!

How very 1984 of Breitbart.

18 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:11:33pm

Evening Lizardim from the snowbound wild north country. So Pat Dollard finally went a bridge too far even for the wingnuts and is getting flushed down the memory hole, eh? How very Stalin of them. Which, considering he would probably be a hero of theirs, has a certain sense of irony to it.

19 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 4:13:07pm

re: #18 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the snowbound wild north country. So Pat Dollard finally went a bridge too far even for the wingnuts and is getting flushed down the memory hole, eh? How very Stalin of them. Which, considering he would probably be a hero of theirs, has a certain sense of irony to it.

better watch it, you’ll start a game of stalin volleyball that way - both sides heave stalin back and forth over the net, saying

“no! he’s your hero!!!”

20 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:15:57pm

re: #19 dog philosopher

better watch it, you’ll start a game of stalin volleyball that way - both sides heave stalin back and forth over the net, saying

“no! he’s your hero!!!”

Well, he certainly isn’t my hero. I don’t idolize mass murderers of any political bent.

21 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 4:16:28pm
22 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 4:18:57pm

re: #18 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the snowbound wild north country. So Pat Dollard finally went a bridge too far even for the wingnuts and is getting flushed down the memory hole, eh? How very Stalin of them. Which, considering he would probably be a hero of theirs, has a certain sense of irony to it.

You realize that if it HAD been another Nidal Hasan at Ft. Hood, Dollard WOULD be their hero.

23 klys  Apr 3, 2014 4:19:21pm

That thing when you are house cleaning and set off a dust allergy attack.

FUN.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 3, 2014 4:20:35pm

re: #21 NJDhockeyfan

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What a beautiful picture, and a beautiful phenomenon of nature. Helps to remind us that this beautiful universe will still be here after these self-important lop-tailed primates and their squabbles have faded to quantum nothingness.

25 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 4:23:31pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

What a beautiful picture, and a beautiful phenomenon of nature. Helps to remind us that this beautiful universe will still be here after these self-important lop-tailed primates and their squabbles have faded to quantum nothingness.

What an amazing thing to see. It makes me want to go visit Finland.

26 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:25:20pm

re: #22 GeneJockey

You realize that if it HAD been another Nidal Hasan at Ft. Hood, Dollard WOULD be their hero.

I meant Stalin would be their hero, but reading it the other way, your point is well taken.

27 Kragar  Apr 3, 2014 4:25:49pm

re: #25 NJDhockeyfan

What an amazing thing to see. It makes me want to go visit Finland.

I visited there as part of a sister cities program back in High School one summer back in the 80s.

28 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 4:26:12pm
29 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 4:27:00pm

re: #17 BongCrodny

Pat Dollard has become an “unperson”!

How very 1984 of Breitbart.

Was he worthy of the designation of “Person” to start with?

RBS

30 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 4:27:47pm

Spring has arrived…

31 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:30:14pm

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

Spring has arrived…

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I know nothing of this “spring” you speak of.

32 klys  Apr 3, 2014 4:31:12pm

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

A friend of mine from high school lives in Denton, says the warning was right by her.

33 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:31:40pm

re: #31 thedopefishlives

I know nothing of this “spring” you speak of.

Yeah, it’s 80 deg right now and I had to turn the A/C on yesterday. The floor fan just wasn’t taking care of business. : )

34 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:32:39pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, it’s 80 deg right now and I had to turn the A/C on yesterday. The floor fan just wasn’t taking care of business. : )

It’s 30 degrees and the flakes are coming down in a hurry. Thankfully they seemed to have backed off the 12-16” Snowpocalypse predictions, but still.

35 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 4:32:42pm

Again…

36 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 4:32:48pm

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

Spring has arrived…

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We had a hard storm come through late last night / early morning. Woke me up, which takes some doing. Expecting more tonight. Also found a place where the roof has developed a very slight leak when it’s really driving rain. Bummer… going to probably have to get somebody to look at it.

RBS

37 klys  Apr 3, 2014 4:33:37pm

re: #34 thedopefishlives

It’s 30 degrees and the flakes are coming down in a hurry. Thankfully they seemed to have backed off the 12-16” Snowpocalypse predictions, but still.

The weather in the Bay Area this week was the closest it has been to winter all year.

And most of last year too, for what it’s worth.

38 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 4:34:08pm

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

Spring has arrived…

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It’s arrived here as well in Toronto. Which means it’s gloomy, overcast and wet.

39 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:35:04pm

I think I’ve seen this in a movie before.

40 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 4:36:25pm

re: #36 RealityBasedSteve

We had a hard storm come through late last night / early morning. Woke me up, which takes some doing. Expecting more tonight. Also found a place where the roof has developed a very slight leak when it’s really driving rain. Bummer… going to probably have to get somebody to look at it.

RBS

It woke me up last night too. Nothing too bad though, not like last fall when all my electronics started going off when a tornado warning was issued for my town.

If you need someone to look at your roof let me know, I have a good contact.

41 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 4:36:35pm

OK, now I want an iPhone.

42 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:36:45pm

Golf ball-sized hail again being reported in Denton, Texas, after earlier hail storm smashed windows - @stormchaser4850
end of alert

43 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 3, 2014 4:36:56pm

re: #28 darthstar

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Some of our fellow primates use their intricately evolved cognitive and verbal skills to assert that a magical sky-daddy spoke the universe into existence just 6000 years ago, and for their convenience alone.
What an insult to our dead ancestors and the billion year life and death struggle that has brought us up from the mud of the Precambrian.

44 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:41:27pm

This doesn’t bode well for Silicon Valley.

morganhill.ca.gov

45 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 4:41:52pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

Well, he certainly isn’t my hero. I don’t idolize mass murderers of any political bent.

i’ve tried to assert that myself, but often the other person persists in the argument that if i’m not a republican therefore i’m a ‘leftist’ and therefore i must admire stalin

46 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 4:42:29pm

re: #40 NJDhockeyfan

It woke me up last night too. Nothing too bad though, not like last fall when all my electronics started going off when a tornado warning was issued for my town.

If you need someone to look at your roof let me know, I have a good contact.

Thanks for the offer. I’ve “gotta guy who’s gotta guy” as we used to say back east. I’ve had him do some work before that was outside my comfort zone.

I mentioned downstairs, that there aren’t any good fish joints as such, a couple of places with a good rep for Catfish, but no Fish / Chowder joint like there are on the coasts.

Nashville Scene (which has a BEST OF in about every category possible) doesn’t even have a category for fish / seafood. That should tell you about all you need to know.

RBS

48 klys  Apr 3, 2014 4:43:37pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

This doesn’t bode well for Silicon Valley.

morganhill.ca.gov

Although I agree that we’re in the middle of a drought here in CA, I see nothing to indicate that those rules are new or related to the current ongoing drought?

49 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 4:45:39pm

re: #47 Pie-onist Overlord

NO.

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They don’t ever stop and consider that more guns floating around means “crazy” people will have an easier time getting a gun.

50 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:46:18pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

They don’t ever stop and consider that more guns floating around means “crazy” people will have an easier time getting a gun.

Or that “sane” people have as much chance to hit an innocent bystander as the “crazy” people they’re shooting at.

51 Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2014 4:46:21pm

So, in my poking around on the internet, I’ve found a 1970s British TV children’s series called Children of the Stones.

It’s apparently known more affectionately to many Brits as ‘The WIcker Man for children’. I’ll have to check it out and let all of you Lizards whether it’s good or not.

And with that, goodnight, Lizards.

52 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 4:46:33pm

re: #36 RealityBasedSteve

We had a hard storm come through late last night / early morning. Woke me up, which takes some doing. Expecting more tonight. Also found a place where the roof has developed a very slight leak when it’s really driving rain. Bummer… going to probably have to get somebody to look at it.

RBS

They’re predicting 8 to 15 INCHES of that white shit here.

I am so ready for winter to be over.

53 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 4:46:37pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

They don’t ever stop and consider that more guns floating around means “crazy” people will have an easier time getting a gun.

I noticed that a lot of these gun-fucking memes are being retweeted by gun dealers.

54 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 4:47:11pm

re: #52 William Barnett-Lewis

They’re predicting 8 to 15 INCHES of that white shit here.

I am so ready for winter to be over.

Similar to the first nuclear bomb, predictions here are ranging from “complete fizzle” to “Snowmageddon”. I’ll be interested to see how it actually turns out.

55 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 4:51:23pm

re: #46 RealityBasedSteve

Thanks for the offer. I’ve “gotta guy who’s gotta guy” as we used to say back east. I’ve had him do some work before that was outside my comfort zone.

I mentioned downstairs, that there aren’t any good fish joints as such, a couple of places with a good rep for Catfish, but no Fish / Chowder joint like there are on the coasts.

Nashville Scene (which has a BEST OF in about every category possible) doesn’t even have a category for fish / seafood. That should tell you about all you need to know.

RBS

I talked to a girl in Portland a little while ago and asked her about seafood restaurants around here. All she could think of was a steakhouse in Goodlettesville that has catfish on the menu. I really wish I had some money so I could open a nice seafood place. It could be a gold mine around here.

56 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:52:41pm

re: #48 klys

Although I agree that we’re in the middle of a drought here in CA, I see nothing to indicate that those rules are new or related to the current ongoing drought?

You might want to look at this; from what I’ve read this is the worst drought in CA at least since the Gold Rush. Even the latest downpours and the snow melt aren’t going to help alleviate that much this year.

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

57 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 4:54:04pm

re: #52 William Barnett-Lewis

They’re predicting 8 to 15 INCHES of that white shit here.

I am so ready for winter to be over.

and where in the Great White North are you?

RBS

58 klys  Apr 3, 2014 4:55:41pm

re: #56 Justanotherhuman

You might want to look at this; from what I’ve read this is the worst drought in CA at least since the Gold Rush. Even the latest downpours and the snow melt aren’t going to help alleviate that much this year.

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

I know it’s the worst drought in CA since the Gold Rush; the governor has already called for a voluntary 20% water usage reduction statewide. There’s places in the north of the state that were down to double-digit day water supplies before the (small) rain we’ve gotten since the beginning of March or so. You drive by any of the reservoirs in the state and its desperately obvious.

But there’s nothing in the Morgan Hill rules to show that they were implemented recently and in response to the current drought, so I fail to see how they would specifically bode ill for Silicon Valley.

59 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 4:57:49pm

This latest discovery makes the interior of Enceladus “a very attractive potential place to look for life,” said Cornell University planetary scientist Jonathan Lunine

looking forward to the possibility of enceladus creatures

60 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 4:58:09pm

re: #55 NJDhockeyfan

I talked to a girl in Portland a little while ago and asked her about seafood restaurants around here. All she could think of was a steakhouse in Goodlettesville that has catfish on the menu. I really wish I had some money so I could open a nice seafood place. It could be a gold mine around here.

ROFL!!! yea, that about sums it up. But I bet you could get the catfish Fried OR Broiled.

My Dad (who’s in Florida now) has a great knack for finding the little “out-of-the-way” joints with great food. Last time I was there we went to a great little fish place, store front type place, maybe 6-8 tables, and a lot of carry out business. Great fresh fish, sides, cooked by people who knew what they were doing.

Well, I’m going to go fix an Omelet for dinner, had a big lunch, but need something to keep the tummy from gurgling.

RBS

61 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 4:58:50pm

re: #58 klys

I was going by this alert and just short-cut to the city’s site.

Morgan Hill, Calif., declares water supply shortage - city web site
read more on morganhill.ca.gov

62 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:00:25pm

The sunset is beautiful tonight in Hendersonville…

63 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 5:01:28pm

re: #55 NJDhockeyfan

I talked to a girl in Portland a little while ago and asked her about seafood restaurants around here. All she could think of was a steakhouse in Goodlettesville that has catfish on the menu. I really wish I had some money so I could open a nice seafood place. It could be a gold mine around here.

you must be in portland me since i know very well that in portland or everybody has heard of jake’s crayfish

64 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:03:16pm

re: #63 dog philosopher

you must be in portland me since i know very well that in portland or everybody has heard of jake’s crayfish

I would love to eat some seafood in Portland ME. I was in Portland TN earlier. Not much there but fast food and a couple bbq places.

65 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 5:04:31pm

in sf among other great places for seafood there is is the tadich grill, “the original cold day restaurant”

66 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 5:07:29pm

re: #57 RealityBasedSteve

and where in the Great White North are you?

RBS

Northern Wisconsin - an hour south of Ashland.

67 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:07:50pm

re: #61 Justanotherhuman

I was going by this alert and just short-cut to the city’s site.

Morgan Hill, Calif., declares water supply shortage - city web site
read more on morganhill.ca.gov

Having dug around for a bit, I’ve finally found a story here with actual details:

Previously, the city council adopted a water supply shortage ordinance that addresses water waste and contains a number of ongoing everyday limits aimed at reducing water waste. A complete list of the ongoing limits is available online.

During a Level I condition, the following provisions apply:

• Obligation to fix leaks, breaks or malfunctions: All leaks, breaks, or other malfunctions in the water user’s plumbing or distribution system must be repaired within seventy-two hours of notification by the city unless other arrangements are made with the city.

• No washing down hard or paved surfaces: Washing down hard or paved surfaces is prohibited except when necessary to alleviate safety or sanitary hazards.

• Limited watering days: The city council has limited watering days to a maximum of three days per week, establishing Monday, Wednesday and Friday as watering/irrigation days from April through October. That will go down to one day - Wednesdays - in November.

They are not the only town to be doing this locally; Mountain View is considering this as well.

Then again, not terribly surprising when the Sierra snowpack is something like 20% of normal for this time of year.

68 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:08:09pm

re: #65 dog philosopher

in sf among other great places for seafood there is is the tadich grill, “the original cold day restaurant”

Om nom nom need to go back there.

69 Skip Intro  Apr 3, 2014 5:09:29pm

re: #47 Pie-onist Overlord

NO.

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The problem is it’s impossible to tell the difference.

70 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:10:51pm

re: #66 William Barnett-Lewis

Northern Wisconsin - an hour south of Ashland.

I was stationed at K. I. Sawyer AFB back in the early 80s which was close to you. I don’t miss all the snow, that for sure.

71 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 5:13:09pm

Ummm… Omelet wif some diced poblano, onion, mushrooms and a bit of sharp cheddar with some hashbrowns along side.

Life is not bad at this moment

RBS

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 5:13:21pm

Pat Dollard has some fanboys

73 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:14:14pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Ummm… Omelet wif some diced poblano, onion, mushrooms and a bit of sharp cheddar with some hashbrowns along side.

Life is not bad at this moment

RBS

Tonight is going to be maple-mustard glazed pork with roasted garlic potatoes and steamed veggies.

Hopefully.

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 5:14:21pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Ummm… Omelet wif some diced poblano, onion, mushrooms and a bit of sharp cheddar with some hashbrowns along side.

Life is not bad at this moment

RBS

leftovers, but great ones - clam & sauteed mushroom marinara over linguine… nom nom nom.

76 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:15:52pm

re: #75 Pie-onist Overlord

Even Twitchy thinks Pat Dollard is evil.

What, for claiming it was satire?

////

When you’ve lost Twitchy…

77 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:17:07pm

Holy crap.

Meningitis outbreak: 8 cases in Los Angeles County

abclocal.go.com

LOS ANGELES (KABC) — Eight people have been diagnosed with bacterial meningitis in Los Angeles County in 2014, according to the county Department of Public Health.

“Free vaccinations will be offered to people without health insurance by the department beginning Thursday.

(snip)

“Three of the patients were known to socialize in the West Hollywood and North Hollywood areas, according to the department.”

78 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 5:17:07pm

re: #74 William Barnett-Lewis

leftovers, but great ones - clam & sauteed mushroom marinara over linguine… nom nom nom.

Sounds like we both are doing the “Clean up the odds and ends in the fridge”. That’s what this was.

And I love linguine W/ clams. I generally just do it with just olive oil, garlic, green onions, stuff like that.

RBS

79 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:19:56pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Ummm… Omelet wif some diced poblano, onion, mushrooms and a bit of sharp cheddar with some hashbrowns along side.

Life is not bad at this moment

RBS

Hmmm. My favorite 2-egg omelette which I have several times a week morning has green pepper and mushroom inside and a topping of salsa. Yummy! I like it w/wheat toast or English muffin. Have to watch the carbs.

80 Stanley Sea  Apr 3, 2014 5:20:37pm

Tech help! On iPad I thought you embedded a tweet by copying from the tweets time stamp, then pasting & removing the ‘mobile’ in front of twitter. Not working anymore. Argh

81 Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2014 5:21:59pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Stanley—did your folks make it into healthcare far enough to finish or extend?

82 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:24:04pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Tech help! On iPad I thought you embedded a tweet by copying from the tweets time stamp, then pasting & removing the ‘mobile’ in front of twitter. Not working anymore. Argh

Which app are you using to copy the tweet’s time stamp? The official Twitter app?

83 Stanley Sea  Apr 3, 2014 5:24:10pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

Stanley—did your folks make it into healthcare far enough to finish or extend?

My stepmom. Quoted 400. She decided to forego and pay the fine next year. Fixed income and Nicky Hailey. She at least tried. Thanks for your help DD.

84 Stinky Beaumont  Apr 3, 2014 5:25:21pm

Posting from my iPhone with the new mobile version of LGF.

85 Stanley Sea  Apr 3, 2014 5:25:35pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Which app are you using to copy the tweet’s time stamp? The official Twitter app?

Charles, I’m kinda lame. I go to twitter.com on chrome so I can just pop window to window rather than launch the app. Is that the prob?

86 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:26:18pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Tech help! On iPad I thought you embedded a tweet by copying from the tweets time stamp, then pasting & removing the ‘mobile’ in front of twitter. Not working anymore. Argh

I hold my finger over the time and date and copy it. Works great!

87 Stanley Sea  Apr 3, 2014 5:28:35pm
88 Stanley Sea  Apr 3, 2014 5:28:58pm

Worked via the twitter app!

89 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 5:29:10pm

Andrew Sullivan is a douche but when he’s right he’s right
The Hounding Of A Heretic, Ctd

He did not understand that in order to be a CEO of a company, you have to renounce your heresy! There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged! Yep, that’s left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell. No, he wasn’t a victim of government censorship or intimidation. He was a victim of the free market in which people can choose to express their opinions by boycotts, free speech and the like. He still has his full First Amendment rights. But what we’re talking about is the obvious and ugly intolerance of parts of the gay movement, who have reacted to years of being subjected to social obloquy by returning the favor. Reihan notes the use of the word “integrity” about Mozilla:

90 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:29:36pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

Charles, I’m kinda lame. I go to twitter.com on chrome so I can just pop window to window rather than launch the app. Is that the prob?

Are you sure you’re removing the word ‘mobile’ and the following period from the url?

91 TedStriker  Apr 3, 2014 5:30:43pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Andrew Sullivan is a douche but when he’s right he’s right
The Hounding Of A Heretic, Ctd

No, Sullivan is not right on this; he’s still a douche.

92 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:31:56pm
93 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:33:18pm
94 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 5:33:25pm

re: #91 TedStriker

No, Sullivan is not right on this; he’s still a douche.

Ok, we’ll just agree that he’s still a douche.

95 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 5:33:58pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Andrew Sullivan is a douche but when he’s right he’s right
The Hounding Of A Heretic, Ctd

??

There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged!

why would you endorse this obvious straw man?

96 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 5:34:45pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Ummm… Omelet wif some diced poblano, onion, mushrooms and a bit of sharp cheddar with some hashbrowns along side.

Life is not bad at this moment

RBS

Baked pork chops, rice and pasta with a mushroom sauce and sweet peas.

97 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:35:46pm
98 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:36:45pm
99 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 5:38:34pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

SQUIRREL!

100 Stanley Sea  Apr 3, 2014 5:38:38pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Are you sure you’re removing the word ‘mobile’ and the following period from the url?

Yah I was. But I was copying via another window blah blah. Now I see the copy icon. It works now. Thanks mucho!

101 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 5:38:55pm

re: #76 klys

What, for claiming it was satire?

////

When you’ve lost Twitchy…

Yeah, Michelle Malkin: Interment is okay, but I draw the line at genocide!

102 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 5:39:16pm

re: #95 dog philosopher

??

There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged!

why would you endorse this obvious straw man?

Do you think they’re going to hire another CEO that supported Prop 8? I think it’s settled that’s not going to happen. Unlike Sully, I don’t blame the company. They are in the business of making money not becoming martyrs of free speech and tolerance. One of the many reasons I don’t care for these boycotts is it put businesses in the position to decide on free speech issues. I don’t want tech companies or soda factories the judges of what causes their employees can support.

103 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:39:31pm

This is so cool. Almost all the features of LGF are going to be available in the mobile version when I’m done, adjusted for the smaller screen size but still fully functional.

104 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:40:38pm

Media queries rock.

105 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:40:44pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Do you think they’re going to hire another CEO that supported Prop 8? I think it’s settled that’s not going to happen. Unlike Sully, I don’t blame the company. They are in the business of making money not becoming martyrs of free speech and tolerance. One of the many reasons I don’t care for these boycotts is it put businesses in the position to decide or free speech issues. I don’t want tech companies or soda factories the judges of what causes their employees can support.

When they pay all workers CEO-level salaries, I will accept CEO-type restrictions that come as the result of being the public face of a company.

In the meantime, can we at least acknowledge that there is a fucking difference between the average worker-bee and the CEO?

106 thedopefishlives  Apr 3, 2014 5:41:05pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

This is so cool. Almost all the features of LGF are going to be available in the mobile version when I’m done, adjusted for the smaller screen size but still fully functional.

This is good news. Now I just have to track down another old-iPhone charging cord and then I can LGF from work again.

107 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 5:41:32pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Yeah, Michelle Malkin: Interment is okay, but I draw the line at genocide!

Twitchy was also defending the bratbart site as being unconnected to the Dullard.

And posting tweets like ‘I’m no fan of Islam, BUT….’

108 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 5:41:59pm

Ross Douthat: The Terms of Our Surrender

Christians had plenty of opportunities — thousands of years’ worth — to treat gay people with real charity, and far too often chose intolerance. (And still do, in many instances and places.) So being marginalized, being sued, losing tax-exempt status — this will be uncomfortable, but we should keep perspective and remember our sins, and nobody should call it persecution.

But it’s still important for the winning side to recognize its power. We are not really having an argument about same-sex marriage anymore, and on the evidence of Arizona, we’re not having a negotiation. Instead, all that’s left is the timing of the final victory — and for the defeated to find out what settlement the victors will impose.

109 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 5:42:06pm

This looks good.

110 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:42:35pm

I’d just like to say:

box-sizing: border-box;

The solution to having a 100% width textarea that doesn’t spill outside the containing element.

111 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 5:43:02pm

re: #105 klys

In the meantime, can we at least acknowledge that there is a fucking difference between the average worker-bee and the CEO?

Yes, that’s already been discussed and agreed upon. When can reaffirm that agreement as often as you like.

112 BongCrodny  Apr 3, 2014 5:43:22pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Andrew Sullivan is a douche but when he’s right he’s right
The Hounding Of A Heretic, Ctd

Translation: “Andrew Sullivan is a douche but when he agrees with me he’s right.”

113 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 5:43:53pm

re: #106 thedopefishlives

This is good news. Now I just have to track down another old-iPhone charging cord and then I can LGF from work again.

I’ve got 3 here on my desk… and the only apple device I have is an iPod Classic.

RBS

114 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:44:28pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Yes, that’s already been discussed and agreed upon. When can reaffirm that agreement as often as you like.

Well, it’s totally unclear given the way you keep conflating the two, so.

115 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 5:46:09pm

re: #28 darthstar

[Embedded content]

You know what this means, of course:

Neil DeGrasse Tyson is IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!!!
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116 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:47:04pm

Hang on everyone - there’s a bird outside my window!

117 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 5:47:40pm

re: #91 TedStriker

No, Sullivan is not right on this; he’s still a douche.

I’m not a fan of AS’s, either, but it seems to me that Eich really won’t suffer for this professionally—there are other places he can go, no doubt.

I’m wondering if Eich is a Catholic, like Sullivan? He was featured in a story about the NSA in Catholic Online.

saints.catholic.org

118 dog philosopher  Apr 3, 2014 5:49:53pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Do you think they’re going to hire another CEO that supported Prop 8? I think it’s settled that’s not going to happen. Unlike Sully, I don’t blame the company. They are in the business of making money not becoming martyrs of free speech and tolerance. One of the many reasons I don’t care for these boycotts is it put businesses in the position to decide on free speech issues. I don’t want tech companies or soda factories the judges of what causes their employees can support.

be that as it may, my question was this:

There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged!

why would you endorse this obvious straw man?

119 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:49:59pm

re: #11 dog philosopher

will you leave in a link to view LGF in desktop mode even if you are viewing it on a mobile device?

some of us like to be contrary and curmudgeonly with the mobile auto-detect…

That’s a possibility, but the way it’s coming together I don’t think it will really be necessary, since everything will be available in the mobile version in a much more useable form.

120 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 5:51:15pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Ummm… Omelet wif some diced poblano, onion, mushrooms and a bit of sharp cheddar with some hashbrowns along side.

Life is not bad at this moment

RBS

Just wait a bit.

121 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 5:52:19pm

Everything is better with Brian Blessed!

thehammerstrikes.com

122 BongCrodny  Apr 3, 2014 5:54:22pm

re: #118 dog philosopher

be that as it may, my question was this:

There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged!

why would you endorse this obvious straw man?

Indeed. The Prop 8 vote was 52.24% “yes” votes to 47.76% “no” votes. One would assume that would mean that somewhere in the neighborhood of 52.24% of Mozilla employees also voted to or endorsed repeal of same sex marriage rights.

Has there been a mass firing of Mozilla employees that I’ve missed?

Hardly seems like “one permissible opinion” to me.

123 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 5:55:07pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Ross Douthat: The Terms of Our Surrender

Negotiation? WTF? Did we negotiate with segregationists? With slaveowners?

124 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 5:55:25pm

OK, the bird’s gone now. What were you saying?

125 klys  Apr 3, 2014 5:55:53pm

re: #123 GeneJockey

Negotiation? WTF? Did we negotiate with segregationists? With slaveowners?

Apparently we should have. Because otherwise we were being intolerant, and they might oppress us if the tables were turned.

///

126 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 5:55:58pm

re: #120 GeneJockey

Just wait a bit.

Yea, but I’m going to savor this simple pleasure for the moment.

RBS

127 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 5:57:49pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Ross Douthat: The Terms of Our Surrender

Douchehat is the worst.

128 lawhawk  Apr 3, 2014 5:58:01pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Hang on everyone - there’s a bird outside my window!

Point!!!!

129 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:00:51pm

Haha, those medieval types…

“Baltimore Consort - Her Thing His Thing My man John had a Thing that was long” From “The Art of the Bawdy Song”.

amazon.com

130 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:01:26pm

re: #125 klys

Apparently we should have. Because otherwise we were being intolerant, and they might oppress us if the tables were turned.

///

Now that I think of it, we did kind of negotiate with the slaveowners. We let them keep a lot of their oppressive white supremacist apparatus in place for another century.

That was a mistake.

131 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 6:03:37pm

Ella Fitzgerald - Sunshine Of Your Love

Youtube Video

Ella gets psychedelic. She was the best.

132 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:03:42pm

Police Seize 14K Bags of Heroin

The seizure was the largest in the history of New Castle County, Delaware and law enforcement officials say they’re not done yet.

nbcphiladelphia.com

133 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 6:03:53pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Hang on everyone - there’s a bird outside my window!

Micro-aggression!
/pointing finger angrily

134 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 6:05:01pm
135 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:06:10pm

Part of the thing I like about the community here is that most of the time, I feel like there’s good faith on the part of other folks commenting. There’s an actual attempt to have a dialog.

Most of the time.

136 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:08:11pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Andrew Sullivan is a douche but when he’s right he’s right
The Hounding Of A Heretic, Ctd

He did not understand that in order to be a CEO of a company, you have to renounce your heresy! There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged! Yep, that’s left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell. No, he wasn’t a victim of government censorship or intimidation. He was a victim of the free market in which people can choose to express their opinions by boycotts, free speech and the like. He still has his full First Amendment rights. But what we’re talking about is the obvious and ugly intolerance of parts of the gay movement, who have reacted to years of being subjected to social obloquy by returning the favor. Reihan notes the use of the word “integrity” about Mozilla:

More hyperbolic bullshit & generalizations.

He starts of with all the melodrama about purging dissidents, then claims it’s “left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell”—broad brush he’s using there.

Imagine my surprise on noticing that when it comes to the group he’s part of, Mr. Sullivan suddenly uses a much finer brush to pick out “obvious and ugly intolerance of parts of the gay movement”. //

Since parts of the gay movement ≠ left-liberals as a whole, WTF is he even saying and which part of his word salad are you agreeing with? You’ve already made it clear that you dislike free market boycotting because you seem to think it’s similar to bullying or something, so…?

137 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 6:09:49pm

re: #123 GeneJockey

Negotiation? WTF? Did we negotiate with segregationists? With slaveowners?

But it’s still important for the winning side to recognize its power. We are not really having an argument about same-sex marriage anymore, and on the evidence of Arizona, we’re not having a negotiation. Instead, all that’s left is the timing of the final victory — and for the defeated to find out what settlement the victors will impose.

I’d settle for the complete removal of tax exempt status for all Religions.

138 wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2014 6:10:17pm

Imma save this for possible future posting:

Later, lizards.

139 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 6:11:46pm

re: #136 CuriousLurker

Andrew lost me a long time ago when (among other things) he made excuses for Ron Paul’s racist newsletters. Among countless other indications that his politics are deeply weird in the usual depressing libertarian way.

Libertarianism poisons everything.

140 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:12:24pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Hang on everyone - there’s a bird outside my window!

Squirrel, white rabbit, bird. Oh, look!…

141 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 6:12:33pm

re: #136 CuriousLurker

You’ve already made it clear that you dislike free market boycotting because you seem to think it’s similar to bullying or something, so…?

Other people are starting to notice and I’m glad to see the debate happening.

142 Killgore Trout  Apr 3, 2014 6:13:45pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Andrew lost me a long time ago when (among other things) he made excuses for Ron Paul’s racist newsletters. Among countless other indications that his politics are deeply weird in the usual depressing libertarian way.

Libertarianism poisons everything.

I tried to give him a second chance after the election but he was still going on about Palin’s baby and rabid hate for Israel.

143 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:16:48pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Andrew lost me a long time ago when (among other things) he made excuses for Ron Paul’s racist newsletters. Among countless other indications that his politics are deeply weird in the usual depressing libertarian way.

Libertarianism poisons everything.

Yeah, that and the thing with Sarah Palin’s baby not really being hers. I can’t stand the woman, but that was some seriously creepy Alex Jones type shit.

144 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:17:32pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I tried to give him a second chance after the election but he was still going on about Palin’s baby and rabid hate for Israel.

Why does Palin’s baby hate Israel?

145 EPR-radar  Apr 3, 2014 6:17:43pm

re: #137 Bubblehead II

But it’s still important for the winning side to recognize its power. We are not really having an argument about same-sex marriage anymore, and on the evidence of Arizona, >we’re not having a negotiation. Instead, all that’s left is the timing of the final victory — >and for the defeated to find out what settlement the victors will impose.

I’d settle for the complete removal of tax exempt status for all Religions.

I’d allow the religions to keep their tax exempt status if they would refrain from their poisonous “family values” political activities.

I must be getting kinder in middle age.

146 b_sharp  Apr 3, 2014 6:18:28pm

re: #135 klys

Part of the thing I like about the community here is that most of the time, I feel like there’s good faith on the part of other folks commenting. There’s an actual attempt to have a dialog.

Most of the time.

????

147 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:19:07pm

Ooohhhh! (Can you tell I’m a dog person?)

148 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:19:28pm

re: #146 b_sharp

????

Well, except for you.

//

149 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:19:37pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

I’d allow the religions to keep their tax exempt status if they would refrain from their poisonous “family values” political activities.

I must be getting kinder in middle age.

I’m actually getting crankier. Soon I’ll be all, “Get your Creationist/AGW denier/Austrian Economics shoes off my lawn!”

150 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:20:25pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Other people are starting to notice and I’m glad to see the debate happening.

LOL, yeah, Sully brings lots of gravitas to the discussion.

151 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:20:34pm

re: #149 GeneJockey

I’m actually getting crankier. Soon I’ll be all, “Get your Creationist/AGW denier/Austrian Economics shoes off my lawn!”

Careful, that’s getting dangerously close to oppressing them.

You’re a real enemy of democracy if you do that.

///

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 6:21:00pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Because even trolls get lonely under their bridge so you’re desperate for validation?

153 Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2014 6:21:01pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

Yeah, that and the thing with Sarah Palin’s baby not really being hers. I can’t stand the woman, but that was some sriously creepy Alex Jones type shit.

Another sign of libertarian poisoning is willingness to believe in irrational conspiracy theories.

154 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:21:31pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Another sign of libertarian poisoning is willingness to believe in irrational conspiracy theories.

Or the idea that there might be consequences for actions in the public domain.

155 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:22:03pm

re: #135 klys

Part of the thing I like about the community here is that most of the time, I feel like there’s good faith on the part of other folks commenting. There’s an actual attempt to have a dialog.

Most of the time.

For some reason, I can’t see a post like this without wanting to respond abusively. In jest, of course.

156 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:22:24pm

re: #152 William Barnett-Lewis

Because even trolls get lonely under their bridge so you’re desperate for validation?

Where’s Gus’s goat when you need it?

157 b_sharp  Apr 3, 2014 6:23:12pm

re: #148 klys

Well, except for you.

//

I know nothing.

158 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:23:36pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Another sign of libertarian poisoning is willingness to believe in irrational conspiracy theories.

Are the other symptoms like that “Do You Have These Symptoms?” ad that keeps popping up?

159 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:23:38pm

re: #155 GeneJockey

For some reason, I can’t see a post like this without wanting to respond abusively. In jest, of course.

We’re one big happy cranky family.

///

160 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:23:54pm

re: #159 klys

We’re one big happy cranky family.

///

Fuggoff!
//

161 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:24:19pm

re: #160 GeneJockey

Fugoff!

I’m pretty sure I could still pull out a convincing “BUT DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD” whine.

162 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:04pm

re: #158 GeneJockey

Are the other symptoms like that “Do You Have These Symptoms?” ad that keeps popping up?

/consults WebMD

It’s cancer.

163 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:19pm

re: #159 klys

We’re one big happy cranky family.

///

The LGF Family puts the FUN in dysFUNctional.

RBS

164 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:32pm

re: #161 klys

I’m pretty sure I could still pull out a convincing “BUT DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD” whine.

Hey, I was the youngest kid. I have an innocent, “Who, me?” look that’ll melt your heart.

165 Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:34pm

re: #162 klys

/consults WebMD

It’s cancer.

It’s not a tumah!!

//

166 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:50pm

re: #164 GeneJockey

Hey, I was the youngest kid. I have an innocent, “Who, me?” look that’ll melt your heart.

I’m the oldest. None of those work.

167 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:25:50pm

re: #162 klys

/consults WebMD

It’s cancer.

It’s not a tumor!

RBS

168 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:26:31pm

re: #166 klys

I’m the oldest. None of those work.

It’s not FOR the older kids, silly.

169 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:26:41pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

It’s not a tumah!!

//

Get on the Choppa!

170 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:26:48pm

Have an article on sloth(s).

171 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:27:02pm

re: #168 GeneJockey

It’s not FOR the older kids, silly.

Of course not. Because we can see right through the damn thing.

172 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:27:35pm

re: #169 RealityBasedSteve

Get on the Choppa!

RAHN!! RAHN!! GETTOODA CHOPPA!!!

173 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 6:28:32pm

re: #171 klys

Of course not. Because we can see right through the damn thing.

For decades I heard from the older kids that I’d never got the spank brush.

174 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:30:46pm

re: #170 klys

Have an article on sloth(s).

True Facts about Sloths…

Youtube Video

175 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:31:12pm

So, I was shopping yesterday at the Target store in Allen Park, MI which is right next to Dearborn, and I found this Demonic Sharia Toy:

It looks kinda cute, I think it’s supposed to teach kids names of different animals, but I can imagine the freakouts and meltdowns amongst the usual crowd of idiots.

176 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:31:45pm

re: #173 GeneJockey

For decades I heard from the older kids that I’d never got the spank brush.

When my great grandmother finally passed away at 93, there were lots of stories about the shoehorn that used to get used.

Sure enough, someone found it and the morning of the service went around smacking everyone once with it.

She was then buried with a rose in one hand and the shoehorn in the other.

177 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 6:33:14pm

re: #47 Pie-onist Overlord

NO.

[Embedded content]

Plenty of sane people become “insane” because they lose their tempers and have a weapon nearby. Then, after they’ve killed someone, they’re sane again.

Most killers aren’t actually crazy, just flawed humans with more hate or less self-control than most of the rest of us.

178 Justanotherhuman  Apr 3, 2014 6:33:14pm

Damn, this is a pisser. They shouldn’t have gotten one thin dime.

Edison bosses sell $18M in stock after rate deal

bigstory.ap.org

179 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 6:33:50pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

I’d allow the religions to keep their tax exempt status if they would refrain from their poisonous “family values” political activities.

I must be getting kinder in middle age.

Nope. They are a business and should pay taxes just like any other business. They enjoy all the benifits of a modern society (police,fire,roads,ect) yet feel they don’t need to help pay for those services. Screw that shit.

180 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:34:21pm

In other news, I ordered some small balloons so I can make some paper mache eggs. I took one out and blew it up* as my younger cat, never having seen such a contraption, watched the process with intense curiosity.

I batted it over the table and let it fall to the floor so she could investigate. She immediately sprinted after it then pulled up short and spent about 10 minutes cautiously sidling up to it from different directions and sniffing at it. She finally got up the nerve to tap it a couple of times, but something about it weirded her out and she quit.

I’m wondering how long it’ll be before she (or the other one) really goes after it in earnest and it pops, scaring the hell out of them.

————

*Since I’m Muslim I prolly shouldn’t say I blew anything up, even if it was just a balloon, right? FBI/NSA: If you’re watching I didn’t blow it up, I inflated it, okay?

//

181 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:35:11pm

re: #180 CuriousLurker

In other news, I ordered some small balloons so I can make some paper mache eggs. I took one out and blew it up* as my younger cat, never having seen such a contraption, watched the process with intense curiosity.

I batted it over the table and let it fall to the floor so she could investigate. She immediately sprinted after it then pulled up short and spent about 10 minutes cautiously sidling up to it from different directions and sniffing at it. She finally got up the nerve to tap it a couple of times, but something about it weirded her out and she quit.

I’m wondering how long it’ll be before she (or the other one) really goes after it in earnest and it pops, scaring the hell out of them.

————

*Since I’m Muslim I prolly shouldn’t say I blew anything up, even if it was just a balloon, right? >FBI/NSA: If you’re watching I didn’t blow it up, I inflated it, okay?

//

I heart you so much.

182 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:35:31pm

re: #177 palomino

Plenty of sane people become “insane” because they lose their tempers and have a weapon nearby. Then, after they’ve killed someone, they’re sane again.

Most killers aren’t actually crazy, just flawed humans with more hate or less self-control than most of the rest of us.

These gun-fuckers imagine that if someone starts shooting in a crowded place, like a theater or a shopping mall, they’ll be able to aim and pick off the shooter with perfect precision, like in the movies.

In reality though, they shoot some guy texting the babysitter, or a kid walking alone with a pack of skittles.

183 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:36:43pm

re: #180 CuriousLurker

In other news, I ordered some small balloons so I can make some paper mache eggs. I took one out and blew it up* as my younger cat, never having seen such a contraption, watched the process with intense curiosity.

I batted it over the table and let it fall to the floor so she could investigate. She immediately sprinted after it then pulled up short and spent about 10 minutes cautiously sidling up to it from different directions and sniffing at it. She finally got up the nerve to tap it a couple of times, but something about it weirded her out and she quit.

I’m wondering how long it’ll be before she (or the other one) really goes after it in earnest and it pops, scaring the hell out of them.

————

*Since I’m Muslim I prolly shouldn’t say I blew anything up, even if it was just a balloon, right? >FBI/NSA: If you’re watching I didn’t blow it up, I inflated it, okay?

//

Get the Magic Jinn, that should certainly weird them out.

184 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 6:37:31pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Andrew lost me a long time ago when (among other things) he made excuses for Ron Paul’s racist newsletters. Among countless other indications that his politics are deeply weird in the usual depressing libertarian way.

Libertarianism poisons everything.

I’ve followed Sullivan for a long time. But less and less lately, he may be losing me too. Speaking of racism, he’s currently on a kick of making excuses for Charles Murray. And he’s done a bit of the same for Rand Paul over the Civil Rights Act.

He hasn’t quite gotten to excuse making for Europe’s racist far right, but that may be next.

185 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:38:01pm

re: #183 Pie-onist Overlord

Get the Magic Jinn, that should certainly weird them out.

One year, for my birthday, my inlaws gave me one of those cards that plays music. In this case, it was a bunch of cats meowing the happy birthday song.

Our cats were so confused by this. Whenever I played it, one would come and start looking for the cats, meowing back at them.

I still have it somewhere.

186 Political Atheist  Apr 3, 2014 6:41:32pm

re: #180 CuriousLurker

In other news, I ordered some small balloons so I can make some paper mache eggs. I took one out and blew it up* as my younger cat, never having seen such a contraption, watched the process with intense curiosity.

I batted it over the table and let it fall to the floor so she could investigate. She immediately sprinted after it then pulled up short and spent about 10 minutes cautiously sidling up to it from different directions and sniffing at it. She finally got up the nerve to tap it a couple of times, but something about it weirded her out and she quit.

I’m wondering how long it’ll be before she (or the other one) really goes after it in earnest and it pops, scaring the hell out of them.

————

*Since I’m Muslim I prolly shouldn’t say I blew anything up, even if it was just a balloon, right? >FBI/NSA: If you’re watching I didn’t blow it up, I inflated it, okay?

//

*camera store scenario*
No sir we only do enlargements. We do NOT, sir blow images up.

187 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 6:41:35pm

re: #182 Pie-onist Overlord

These gun-fuckers imagine that if someone starts shooting in a crowded place, like a theater or a shopping mall, they’ll be able to aim and pick off the shooter with perfect precision, like in the movies.

In reality though, they shoot some guy texting the babysitter, or a kid walking alone with a pack of skittles.

The fantasy of being John Wayne or Clint Eastwood outweighs any logical thinking.

The military commanders who actually understand this deal with real life situations, hence the General’s comments at Ft. Hood. If only the armchair warriors would put down their guns for a moment and actually listen to the people they claim to respect so much.

188 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:41:42pm

re: #185 klys

One year, for my birthday, my inlaws gave me one of those cards that plays music. In this case, it was a bunch of cats meowing the happy birthday song.

Our cats were so confused by this. Whenever I played it, one would come and start looking for the cats, meowing back at them.

I still have it somewhere.

That happened when somebody got me that “Jingle Cats” cd. Both of them ran over to the speakers, looking at them, tapping the speakers, poking behind them for the poor trapped kitties. The funniest part was when they came running over to me, started meowing, pawing at my leg, and looking back at the speakers, like “Dad, get them out of there”.

I felt so guilty.

RBS

189 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:41:56pm

re: #182 Pie-onist Overlord

These gun-fuckers…

I saw this ice cube tray on Amazon the other day and have been saving it for the next time you brought them up:

Gun shaped ice cubes, yay! //

190 klys  Apr 3, 2014 6:42:17pm

re: #188 RealityBasedSteve

That happened when somebody got me that “Jingle Cats” cd. Both of them ran over to the speakers, looking at them, tapping the speakers, poking behind them for the poor trapped kitties. The funniest part was when they came running over to me, started meowing, pawing at my leg, and looking back at the speakers, like “Dad, get them out of there”.

I felt so guilty.

RBS

On the other hand, I am a horrible, horrible person, and do this over and over again while laughing hysterically.

191 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:42:20pm

re: #181 klys

I heart you so much.

I heart ya’ right back. ;)

192 gwangung  Apr 3, 2014 6:42:20pm

re: #184 palomino

I’ve followed Sullivan for a long time. But less and less lately, he may be losing me too. Speaking of racism, he’s currently on a kick of making excuses for Charles Murray. And he’s done a bit of the same for Rand Paul over the Civil Rights Act.

He hasn’t quite gotten to excuse making for Europe’s racist far right, but that may be next.

This is after he got schooled by statisticians and by biologists on Murray (Murray knows neither statistics or biology).

Racist is a word that fits.

194 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:45:41pm

re: #190 klys

On the other hand, I am a horrible, horrible person, and do this over and over again while laughing hysterically.

ok, I’ll admit that perhaps, just maybe, a bit of a chuckle, perhaps verging on pant’s wetting hysterics may have occurred. But I did feel a little bit guilty.

RBS

195 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 6:47:07pm

The internet is filled with useless shit. But sometimes, if you’re lucky, you’ll find something really important…like this.

This is why god invented the internet.

196 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:48:32pm

re: #185 klys

One year, for my birthday, my inlaws gave me one of those cards that plays music. In this case, it was a bunch of cats meowing the happy birthday song.

Our cats were so confused by this. Whenever I played it, one would come and start looking for the cats, meowing back at them.

I still have it somewhere.

LOL, I have a battery operate Japanese piggy bank someone gave me where when you put the coin down a cat pops out of a box, meows, and uses its paw to take the quarter—totally freaks my cats out every time.

197 calochortus  Apr 3, 2014 6:48:32pm

re: #193 Pie-onist Overlord

Rick Perry is a horrible, horrible human being

So is Paul LePage.

198 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:49:12pm

re: #186 Political Atheist

*camera store scenario*
No sir we only do enlargements. We do NOT, sir blow images up.

LOL!

199 Political Atheist  Apr 3, 2014 6:51:29pm

So you guys have seen the hummingbird feeders and the hummingbirds I have on my porch. Been thinking maybe a webcam would be fun. But my small experiments have indicated I would need a dedicated computer if only a small one.

Anyone happen to know of a better approach? Maybe a cam that generates it’s own IP?

200 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 6:51:48pm

re: #197 calochortus

So is Paul LePage.

Even MOAR HORRIBLE than you think.

201 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:12pm

re: #186 Political Atheist

*camera store scenario*
No sir we only do enlargements. We do NOT, sir blow images up.

It’s not as fun, apparently, as

being a Mets fan.

202 calochortus  Apr 3, 2014 6:52:39pm

re: #200 Pie-onist Overlord

Yup, I remember that. A real sweetheart…

203 CuriousLurker  Apr 3, 2014 6:55:11pm

re: #199 Political Atheist

Wish I could help, but I don’t know anything about networking cameras.

204 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:57:41pm

re: #199 Political Atheist

So you guys have seen the hummingbird feeders and the hummingbirds I have on my porch. Been thinking maybe a webcam would be fun. But my small experiments have indicated I would need a dedicated computer if only a small one.

Anyone happen to know of a better approach? Maybe a cam that generates it’s own IP?

Maybe this will help stanford.edu

205 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 6:58:28pm

re: #201 darthstar

It’s not as fun, apparently, as[Embedded image]

being a Mets fan.

Holy Cow… is that THE Jared Diamond? (EDIT: Author of Collapse, among other books)

RBS

206 Political Atheist  Apr 3, 2014 6:59:39pm

re: #204 RealityBasedSteve

Maybe this will help stanford.edu

That looks like worthwhile reading, thank you.

207 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 7:01:05pm

re: #206 Political Atheist

That looks like worthwhile reading, thank you.

I bet if you hit some of the ones that people have put up, I’d bet they would be glad to share some of their knowledge too. I use a webcam almost everyday when I teach, but setting up what you want isn’t my area either.

RBS

208 klys  Apr 3, 2014 7:02:39pm

re: #207 RealityBasedSteve

I bet if you hit some of the ones that people have put up, I’d bet they would be glad to share some of their knowledge too. I use a webcam almost everyday when I teach, but setting up what you want isn’t my area either.

RBS

The most impressive webcam I know is the one for watching the geysers in Upper Geyser Basin at Yellowstone. That one is driveable (by select operators), with zoom.

209 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 7:05:18pm

re: #205 RealityBasedSteve

Holy Cow… is that THE Jared Diamond? (EDIT: Author of Collapse, among other books)

RBS

ok, looking at his twitter pic vs that one of the Jared Diamond I’m thinking of, it’s not the same person.

HURMMPHSS

RBS

210 klys  Apr 3, 2014 7:05:23pm

Speaking of geysers, have another photo from my last trip. (I would half-trade Ireland for going back this year. Maybe (hopefully) I can do both.)

Riverside.

211 Political Atheist  Apr 3, 2014 7:08:38pm

re: #207 RealityBasedSteve

I have done some and some livestreaming. Trying to avoid the cost of that dedicated computer. It’s evolving fast so it’s easy to miss a new black box or better cam.

212 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 7:09:54pm

OHHH!!! I just learned a new trick in Chrome. If you make a folder, put some bookmarks in it, and then have it show on the bookmark bar, all you have to do is point at it, center mouse click, and it will open all the links in separate tabs at once in your browser.

SWEET!!!!

RBS
Yes, I’m easily amused

213 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:18:03pm

Well, it didn’t take long for the FALSE FLAG!!!!!! maniacs to crawl out of the woodwork.

214 EPR-radar  Apr 3, 2014 7:18:11pm

re: #184 palomino

I’ve followed Sullivan for a long time. But less and less lately, he may be losing me too. Speaking of racism, he’s currently on a kick of making excuses for Charles Murray. And he’s done a bit of the same for Rand Paul over the Civil Rights Act.

He hasn’t quite gotten to excuse making for Europe’s racist far right, but that may be next.

Engaging in apologetics for the racist crap of Charles Murray really is beyond the pale.

215 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 3, 2014 7:19:22pm

re: #214 EPR-radar

Engaging in apologetics for the racist crap of Charles Murray really is beyond the pale.

Some prominent wingnut did that just recently but I’m blanking on who it was.

216 klys  Apr 3, 2014 7:24:17pm

This quarter’s lecture is in Russian* accents.

* From that area, he hasn’t said, so I may be off.

217 Romantic Heretic  Apr 3, 2014 7:34:01pm

re: #47 Pie-onist Overlord

NO.

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How can they tell that the woman in that picture is insane?

218 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 7:44:32pm

Ping!

219 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 7:46:26pm

re: #218 RealityBasedSteve

Ping!

Ping

220 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 7:49:36pm

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

Some prominent wingnut did that just recently but I’m blanking on who it was.

You might be thinking of Paul Ryan, though I didn’t find Ryan’s words to be racist.

221 makeitstop  Apr 3, 2014 7:51:46pm

re: #213 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, it didn’t take long for the FALSE FLAG!!!!!! maniacs to crawl out of the woodwork.

[Embedded content]

Someone with a Craig’s List account is clearly fucking with the gullible.

222 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 7:55:53pm

re: #187 palomino

The fantasy of being John Wayne or Clint Eastwood outweighs any logical thinking.

The military commanders who actually understand this deal with real life situations, hence the General’s comments at Ft. Hood. If only the armchair warriors would put down their guns for a moment and actually listen to the people they claim to respect so much.

Hey, aren’t these the guys who rip on Obama for ‘not listening to the generals’?

223 klys  Apr 3, 2014 7:56:30pm

re: #222 GeneJockey

Hey, aren’t these the guys who rip on Obama for ‘not listening to the generals’?

Clearly the mind control units have been in play; they can no longer be trusted.

224 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 7:59:22pm

re: #222 GeneJockey

Hey, aren’t these the guys who rip on Obama for ‘not listening to the generals’?

The generals can be rotters or heroes as the need dictates, the consistent point being that President Obama is blakblakblakityblak.

225 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 7:59:25pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

You might be thinking of Paul Ryan, though I didn’t find Ryan’s words to be racist.

There are twice as many white poor in the US as black poor. Indeed, there are more poor Hispanics than poor blacks. Yet Ryan seems to think the poverty subculture that needs to be attacked is the one in the “inner city”, which is predominantly black.

Poor whites in KY, WV, LA, MS, AL, GA, etc, etc, share the same dysfunctional behaviors as their counterparts in urban areas, white or black. So, yes, focusing on the inner city reveals a form of racist thought. It doesn’t make Ryan a KKK member, or an evil man. He is what he is: a white guy who’s more likely to buy into stereotypes about blacks because his experiences with blacks are limited, and his ideas about blacks are shaped by the likes of racist right wing media (Fox, NRO, talk radio, dishonest intellectuals like Charles Murray, etc).

226 Kragar  Apr 3, 2014 8:00:04pm

re: #223 klys

Clearly the mind control units have been in play; they can no longer be trusted.

All the good generals are on the run after they stole the nukes from Obama.
///

227 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 8:01:48pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

You might be thinking of Paul Ryan, though I didn’t find Ryan’s words to be racist.

They were (using the Bell Curve fantasy) but I can accept that we disagree on that. Unlike others you aren’t trolling the issue.

228 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:03:04pm

re: #227 William Barnett-Lewis

They were (using the Bell Curve fantasy) but I can accept that we disagree on that. Unlike others you aren’t trolling the issue.

Thank you for that.

229 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Apr 3, 2014 8:08:39pm

I’m OK with Sullivan. His tendency to fall back on libertarian bullshit is annoying. Why does he take the Pauls the dipshit Megan McArglebargle seriously? But he has been more reflective of his positions than most. And the guy has the President’s back. He does it passionately, intelligently and eloquently, while many of his (former) peers went all wingnut.

230 gwangung  Apr 3, 2014 8:09:05pm

re: #227 William Barnett-Lewis

They were (using the Bell Curve fantasy) but I can accept that we disagree on that. Unlike others you aren’t trolling the issue.

Just factually wrong.

231 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 8:11:23pm

re: #222 GeneJockey

Hey, aren’t these the guys who rip on Obama for ‘not listening to the generals’?

Yes. Then again, they’ve become habituated to hate everything about Obama since they first heard of him SEVEN years ago (yes, it’s been that long since he first announced his candidacy).

These people will still be screaming that Obama “took their guns away” 50 years from now. The fact that he didn’t take away anyone’s guns is irrelevant.

Hating Obama is something of a cultural marker, a way of proclaiming (without explicitly stating) the reactionary view that America is, or should be, a white Christian nation.

232 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 8:14:27pm

re: #230 gwangung

Just factually wrong.

While I consider that a given, there is a strong difference in motive. DF is seeking truth and while I believe he has not found it (for whatever reason) I do not believe that he is consciously avoiding it like Congressman Ryan or our local concern Troll. I’ve watched DF grow as a person over the years. I’ll cut him far more slack than any of a 1000 others. Mind I’ll still tell him he’s got “a long way to go and a short time to get there” as the Coors Hymn puts it.

///Let’s see if _anyone_ get’s that reference.

233 bratwurst  Apr 3, 2014 8:16:42pm

re: #232 William Barnett-Lewis

Mind I’ll still tell him he’s got “a long way to go and a short time to get there” as the Coors Hymn puts it.

///Let’s see if _anyone_ get’s that reference.

10-4 good buddy!

Youtube Video

234 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 8:17:42pm

re: #232 William Barnett-Lewis
Mind I’ll still tell him he’s got “a long way to go and a short time to get there” as the Coors Hymn puts it.

///Let’s see if _anyone_ get’s that reference.

I’m east bound and down… See ya tomorrow.

RBS

235 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 8:17:54pm

re: #232 William Barnett-Lewis

While I consider that a given, there is a strong difference in motive. DF is seeking truth and while I believe he has not found it (for whatever reason) I do not believe that he is consciously avoiding it like Congressman Ryan or our local concern Troll. I’ve watched DF grow as a person over the years. I’ll cut him far more slack than any of a 1000 others. Mind I’ll still tell him he’s got “a long way to go and a short time to get there” as the Coors Hymn puts it.

///Let’s see if _anyone_ get’s that reference.

Smokey and the Bandit

236 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 8:18:42pm

re: #233 bratwurst

re: #234 RealityBasedSteve

We be old. :-)

237 freetoken  Apr 3, 2014 8:18:50pm

Adnan Oktar is getting some attention again, courtesy of Balkanist:

THE ISLAMIC SEX CULT SUPPORTING TURKEY’S PRIME MINISTER

which then Jezebel picks up:

Islamic Creationist Is World’s Most Astounding Pervert Televangelist

Pretty much the same old thing, though the first article seems more sensitive to the Turkish politics and how that plays out in other locations.

We’ve covered most of the rest before:

Creationism Turkey-style: Adnan Oktar and his Kittens of Creation

238 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:20:47pm

re: #231 palomino

Yes. Then again, they’ve become habituated to hate everything about Obama since they first heard of him SEVEN years ago (yes, it’s been that long since he first announced his candidacy).

These people will still be screaming that Obama “took their guns away” 50 years from now. The fact that he didn’t take away anyone’s guns is irrelevant.

Hating Obama is something of a cultural marker, a way of proclaiming (without explicitly stating) the reactionary view that America is, or should be, a white Christian nation.

It’s worth adding here that the marker is the person animosity directed at the president. Its entirely within mainstream and decent bounds to oppose President Obama’s policies and decisions without making it personal. But for the haters whose views of things peripheral to the subject of their hatred can change at the drop of a hat, its far less about policy and much more about how they see Barack Obama as the “Evil and Scary Other”.

239 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 3, 2014 8:21:32pm

re: #236 Bubblehead II

We be old. :-)

Speak for yourself. I’m just 30*

RBS
*with appx 27 years time-in-grade.

240 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:23:42pm

re: #237 freetoken

Adnan Oktar is getting some attention again, courtesy of Balkanist:

THE ISLAMIC SEX CULT SUPPORTING TURKEY’S PRIME MINISTER

which then Jezebel picks up:

Islamic Creationist Is World’s Most Astounding Pervert Televangelist

Pretty much the same old thing, though the first article seems more sensitive to the Turkish politics and how that plays out in other locations.

We’ve covered most of the rest before:

Creationism Turkey-style: Adnan Oktar and his Kittens of Creation

Jezebel doesn’t care how its piece plays in Turkey, its going for Shock Value among English speakers. The story is secondary to the web hits.

241 Bubblehead II  Apr 3, 2014 8:24:59pm

re: #239 RealityBasedSteve

Speak for yourself. I’m just 30*

RBS
*with appx 27 years time-in-grade.

I figure I’ll hover at 52 for the next 20 or so years.

242 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 8:25:49pm

re: #232 William Barnett-Lewis

…We’re gonna do what they say can’t be done.

The boys are thirsty in Atlanta
and there’s beer in Texarcana
We’re gonna bring it back no matter what it takes…

Yeah, I be old and shit too. (turned 50 on Saturday).

243 Kragar  Apr 3, 2014 8:26:34pm
244 freetoken  Apr 3, 2014 8:26:39pm

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

Jezebel doesn’t care how its piece plays in Turkey, its going for Shock Value among English speakers. The story is secondary to the web hits.

No doubt, but I guess I find more interesting the Balkanist, which keeps an eye on that part of the world. Turkey’s society and politics spills over across the channel and how Turkish society comes to terms with modernity and refurbished atavistic movements can affect its neighbors.

245 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 8:26:48pm

re: #229 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

I’m OK with Sullivan. His tendency to fall back on libertarian bullshit is annoying. Why does he take the Pauls the dipshit Megan McArglebargle seriously? But he has been more reflective of his positions than most. And the guy has the President’s back. He does it passionately, intelligently and eloquently, while many of his (former) peers went all wingnut.

And, to Sullivan’s credit, he copped to his mistakes in the early 2000’s, namely his early rabid support for the Iraq War. He now admits that the war was an ill-advised piece of adventurous nation building, and has apologized profusely over the years for his role in supporting it.

Unlike Cheney, Rumsfeld, Kristol, et al, who stubbornly hold on to the idea that the invasion will turn into a great success and history will vindicate them all. It’s actually kind of pathetic seeing old men like these three so in denial that they can’t even admit they made mistakes in Iraq. Just shows what a bitch reality can be when it bites you in the ass.

Ten years ago, along with the rest of us, these neocons were laughing at Baghdad Bob; now they’ve turned into Baghdad Bobs, telling us everything will be fine in Iraq while the country continues to burn in the background.

246 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:27:08pm

Photo of the day: ‘Rosie the Riveter’ sneaks a kiss with President Obama (VIDEO)

Image: tt.jpg

World War II’s hero on the home front ‘Rosie the Riveter’ got up close and personal with President Obama, and even managed to sneak in a hug from Vice President Joe Biden.

Women who worked in the shipyards during WWII, know as ‘Rosie the Riveters,’ made a significant impact on the war. They stepped up in a time of crisis and while their actions were once recognized, some of the Rosies feared their legacy may slip into the darkness. After years of requesting an audience at the White House, they finally got it, ABC reports.

One of the Rosies planted a kiss on Obama smack on the lips, and when confronted by a reporter, she said with a huge smile, “I did. That’s a Rosie for you.”

247 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 8:29:47pm

re: #242 darthstar

…We’re gonna do what they say can’t be done.

The boys are thirsty in Atlanta
and there’s beer in Texarcana
We’re gonna bring it back no matter what it takes…

Yeah, I be old and shit too. (turned 50 on Saturday).

Really? Happy birthday from another 50 year old fart.

248 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:30:12pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

As an aside, the article I quoted is written by an man named Brent McCluskey, who has often been quite critical of Barack Obama. But as this piece shows in part, McCluskey is still able to see President Obama as human and not simply as a hate-figure.

249 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 8:33:24pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

Sometimes war can have positive unintended consequences thousands of miles from where any actual combat took place.

The equal rights movements for blacks and women were buoyed by WWII. Men took women a bit more seriously, and whites started to look at blacks a bit differently. The payoffs mostly wouldn’t come until subsequent generations, but the ball was definitely advanced downfield by the likes of the Rosies and Tuskegee Airmen.

250 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 8:33:45pm

re: #245 palomino

Ten years ago, along with the rest of us, these neocons were laughing at Baghdad Bob; now they’ve turned into Baghdad Bobs, telling us everything will be fine in Iraq while the country continues to burn in the background.

That is one of the best short and pithy descriptions of Dubya’s Wars I’ve heard yet. Kyrie Eleison…

251 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Apr 3, 2014 8:35:12pm

Some smart person should write favorable faux reviews of Bell Curve-like writings from different times history.

252 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:37:42pm

re: #250 William Barnett-Lewis

That is one of the best short and pithy descriptions of Dubya’s Wars I’ve heard yet. Kyrie Eleison…

Iraq’s holding on, and what burning’s happened has been largely contained in Anbar Province. Moreover, Al-Maliki has worked to end the crisis in Anbar without massive bloodshed. That last alone marks a welcome change of pace from the brutality of Saddam Hussein.

Youtube Video

253 kirkspencer  Apr 3, 2014 8:39:51pm

re: #245 palomino

And, to Sullivan’s credit, he copped to his mistakes in the early 2000’s, namely his early rabid support for the Iraq War. He now admits that the war was an ill-advised piece of adventurous nation building, and has apologized profusely over the years for his role in supporting it.

Unlike Cheney, Rumsfeld, Kristol, et al, who stubbornly hold on to the idea that the invasion will turn into a great success and history will vindicate them all. It’s actually kind of pathetic seeing old men like these three so in denial that they can’t even admit they made mistakes in Iraq. Just shows what a bitch reality can be when it bites you in the ass.

Ten years ago, along with the rest of us, these neocons were laughing at Baghdad Bob; now they’ve turned into Baghdad Bobs, telling us everything will be fine in Iraq while the country continues to burn in the background.

The problem is that having admitted being wrong, and even going so far as to doing the self-examination necessary to know what his mistakes were, he then repeats them. And eventually acknowledges and apologizes, and repeats the cycle yet again.

Whether he’s being weak or coy, he gets no more consideration from me.

254 teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2014 8:40:14pm

re: #242 darthstar

…We’re gonna do what they say can’t be done.

The boys are thirsty in Atlanta
and there’s beer in Texarcana
We’re gonna bring it back no matter what it takes…

Yeah, I be old and shit too. (turned 50 on Saturday).

Happy Birthday Sean!

So, surfing in Costa Rica?

255 teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2014 8:42:21pm
256 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 8:43:36pm

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

Iraq’s holding on, and what burning’s happened has been largely contained in Anbar Province. Moreover, Al-Maliki has worked to end the crisis in Anbar >without massive bloodshed. That last alone marks a welcome change of pace from the brutality of Saddam Hussein.

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Problem remains that 1) we used to support him and 2) that brutality was equaled if not bettered by that of our “allies” in Chile and Argentina. I have a hard time believing the squeals of neo-con’s about the very real brutalities of Hussein’s sons when our governments congratulated those who did far worse things when they threw their rape victims out of helicopters an hour out over the Atlantic or herded people into stadiums for mass executions.

257 GeneJockey  Apr 3, 2014 8:44:13pm

re: #243 Kragar

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I thought Peppermint Patty and the girl with glasses were together…

258 darthstar  Apr 3, 2014 8:49:12pm

re: #247 William Barnett-Lewis

Really? Happy birthday from another 50 year old fart.

Yeah…and thanks (and happy birthday back at you). I was a little apprehensive about it, mostly because I lost two fellow 49 year old friends in the last three months and wasn’t sure I’d get here.

259 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 8:49:36pm

re: #256 William Barnett-Lewis

Problem remains that 1) we used to support him and 2) that brutality was equaled if not bettered by that of our “allies” in Chile and Argentina. I have a hard time believing the squeals of neo-con’s about the very real brutalities of Hussein’s sons when our governments congratulated those who did far worse things when they threw their rape victims out of helicopters an hour out over the Atlantic or herded people into stadiums for mass executions.

What Saddam and his sons did was quite real and it has been independently collaborated many times since 2003. Whatever hypocrisies some in America have engaged in, the fact remains that those three bastards needed killing.

260 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 8:57:19pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

What Saddam and his sons did was quite real and it has been independently collaborated many times since 2003. Whatever hypocrisies some in America have engaged in, the fact remains that those three bastards needed killing.

I could make a comment about what your bishops could say about that, but I’ll stick it on myself instead. By my understanding of the lord’s teaching _no one_ NEEDS to die. That the world may be made better by a death is a very different and sad reality…

It’s kind of like how we Anglican’s look at confession - everyone can, some should, none must.

261 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 8:58:40pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

As an aside, the article I quoted is written by an man named Brent McCluskey, who has often been quite critical of Barack Obama. But as this piece shows in part, McCluskey is still able to see President Obama as human and not simply as a hate-figure.

Unfortunately I think this is merely the continuation of a trend which won’t get much better soon. Regardless of the next president or his/her party, they too will be quickly demonized and accused of being a “polarizing figure.” You can already see this with Hillary, as well as the alleged GOP frontrunners like Christie, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, et al.

Partly I think it’s the inevitable result of living in a huge nation that’s still growing and becoming more diverse. And keeping some sense of unity will be one of our nation’s biggest challenges going forward.

262 teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2014 8:59:02pm

I don’t know if the following is an apt metaphor, but I’m gonna give it a college try.

The politics of Republicans now and Confederates then seem similar. The Confederacy doesn’t exist primarily because none of the leaders could agree on the politics and ideology. Bear in mind that the mountain counties along Appalachia hated Confederates. The Confederates themselves, at the end of the war, rethought their view on the viability of blacks, as they started supplying their army with black soldiers who 4 years earlier were slaves and only slaves.

Complete ideological disarray.

And that’s where we’re at with the politics of Republicans today. It indicates to me that what we know of as the Republican Party is probably on it’s way out. We’ll see how far right they go in November. I mean, here in Colorado, we had counties out on the eastern plains voting yes or no on secession from the state of Colorado last year!

Speaking of weird politics and policy in Colorado: Colorado town rejects plan to let residents shoot drones by a wide margin.

263 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 9:00:52pm

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

Iraq’s holding on, and what burning’s happened has been largely contained in Anbar Province. Moreover, Al-Maliki has worked to end the crisis in Anbar >without massive bloodshed. That last alone marks a welcome change of pace from the brutality of Saddam Hussein.

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re: #253 kirkspencer

The problem is that having admitted being wrong, and even going so far as to doing the self-examination necessary to know what his mistakes were, he then repeats them. And eventually acknowledges and apologizes, and repeats the cycle yet again.

Whether he’s being weak or coy, he gets no more consideration from me.

True. But he at least possesses a capacity for introspection. Most pundits don’t.

264 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Apr 3, 2014 9:02:29pm

re: #253 kirkspencer

Of course you’re free to not like him of forgive him. I get it. But he has learned some lessons. He’s now a dogged critic of the neocons, torture and American military adventurism. He thinks Rummy and Cheney are war criminals. He was both wrong and conned and he owned up - and changed his view.

He supports the ACA and and higher taxes on the rich and “Fisks” the Ryan budget and his fake catholicism.

He’s mostly on my side.

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 3, 2014 9:04:02pm

re: #185 klys

One year, for my birthday, my inlaws gave me one of those cards that plays music. In this case, it was a bunch of cats meowing the happy birthday song.

Our cats were so confused by this. Whenever I played it, one would come and start looking for the cats, meowing back at them.

I still have it somewhere.

There are wav files around of cats winding up for a cat fight. I’d play that and my two Siamese would start freaking out trying to find the cat(s) that wanted trouble.

266 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 9:04:44pm

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

Iraq’s holding on, and what burning’s happened has been largely contained in Anbar Province. Moreover, Al-Maliki has worked to end the crisis in Anbar >without massive bloodshed. That last alone marks a welcome change of pace from the brutality of Saddam Hussein.

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Please, it’s 11 years later. The ship has sailed. And then it sank.

Don’t go all Cheney with the Iraq justifications. It’s like Vietnam: a giant foreign policy mistake that no amount of re-hashing will change. Best to admit it and move on. Don’t feel bad about it. Better presidents than W also made foreign policy mistakes; indeed, they all have.

267 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 9:11:49pm

re: #262 teleskiguy

I don’t know if the following is an apt metaphor, but I’m gonna give it a college try.

The politics of Republicans now and Confederates then seem similar. The Confederacy doesn’t exist primarily because none of the leaders could agree on the politics and ideology. Bear in mind that the mountain counties along Appalachia hated Confederates. The Confederates themselves, at the end of the war, rethought their view on the viability of blacks, as they started supplying their army with black soldiers who 4 years earlier were slaves and only slaves.

Complete ideological disarray.

And that’s where we’re at with the politics of Republicans today. It indicates to me that what we know of as the Republican Party is probably on it’s way out. We’ll see how far right they go in November. I mean, here in Colorado, we had counties out on the eastern plains voting yes or no on secession from the state of Colorado last year!

Speaking of weird politics and policy in Colorado: Colorado town rejects plan to let residents shoot drones by a wide margin.

The analogy makes sense. The Confederates were the most reactionary Americans of their day. Today’s Republicans, while not all reactionary, have the bulk of the nation’s far right wingers, nationalists and populists. The common thread is the south and its peculiar culture.

268 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 9:12:07pm

re: #258 darthstar

Yeah…and thanks (and happy birthday back at you). I was a little apprehensive about it, mostly because I lost two fellow 49 year old friends in the last three months and wasn’t sure I’d get here.

Hey, happy birthday old man! Now you can get an AARP card and get discounts everywhere :)

269 klys  Apr 3, 2014 9:13:04pm

re: #265 Feline Fearless Leader

There are wav files around of cats winding up for a cat fight. I’d play that and my two Siamese would start freaking out trying to find the cat(s) that wanted trouble.

I just tried YouTube, but the cats saw through my evil ploy.

270 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 3, 2014 9:13:06pm

re: #219 Bubblehead II

Ping

Youtube Video

271 Dark_Falcon  Apr 3, 2014 9:13:59pm

re: #266 palomino

Please, it’s 11 years later. The ship has sailed. And then it sank.

Don’t go all Cheney with the Iraq justifications. It’s like Vietnam: a giant foreign policy mistake that no amount of re-hashing will change. Best to admit it and move on. Don’t feel bad about it. Better presidents than W also made foreign policy mistakes; indeed, they all have.

I can say that Operation IRAQI FREEDOM was a mistake and still argue in favor of supporting better-case outcomes in Iraq. Regardless of past mistakes, seeing Iraq’s Sunni Radical islamists defeated and that nation afterward having a period of genuine peace would be a positive good, and that positive good is worth speaking in its favor and its worth some material support, which President Obama has provided.

The battles of the past are over, but where Iraq ends up has yet to be decided and if the US can help Iraq end up in a decent place by providing the Iraqi government with material and diplomatic support, then we should do so.

272 palomino  Apr 3, 2014 9:14:20pm

re: #264 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

Of course you’re free to not like him of forgive him. I get it. But he has learned some lessons. He’s now a dogged critic of the neocons, torture and American military adventurism. He thinks Rummy and Cheney are war criminals. He was both wrong and conned and he owned up - and changed his view.

He supports the ACA and and higher taxes on the rich and “Fisks” the Ryan budget and his fake catholicism.

He’s mostly on my side.

Yeah, to paraphrase Reagan, your 20% enemy can still be your 80% ally.

273 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 3, 2014 9:20:25pm

re: #272 palomino

Yeah, to paraphrase Reagan, your 20% enemy can still be your 80% ally.

“The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.” - Howard Tayler.

Never pretend there is anyone who will give you that partial support without giving the enemy even more support. Until they willingly ally with you they must be presumed to be your enemy.

274 palomino  Apr 4, 2014 12:36:35am

re: #273 William Barnett-Lewis

“The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.” - Howard Tayler.

Never pretend there is anyone who will give you that partial support without giving the enemy even more support. Until they willingly ally with you they must be presumed to be your enemy.

I’m talking about the mindset that labels people RINOs. Demanding 100% purity from party members is just unrealistic, and it kills any hopes of bipartisanship.

275 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 4, 2014 11:55:13am

re: #121 Feline Fearless Leader

Everything is better with Brian Blessed!

thehammerstrikes.com

Agreed, and I’m glad I got to meet the man at a convention in my teenage years.


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