Rick Perry Refuses to Comply With Anti-Prison Rape Law

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Yesterday, this happened: creationist Texas Governor Rick Perry came out strongly in favor of letting prison rape continue unabated.

“I will not sign your form and I will encourage my fellow governors to follow suit,” Perry wrote in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, the first governor to make such a move.

The “form” in question is a letter asking governors to say whether they comply with the sexual violence prevention guidelines of the 2003 federal Prison Rape Elimination Act (PREA), a law Congress passed unanimously and George W. Bush signed in 2003. Most of what the law has done so far is collect data on sexual victimization in prison, which had never been collected before. More recently, the Department of Justice has issued standards for prisons and jails, including limiting when guards of the opposite sex see prisoners naked or pat them down and prohibiting invasive searches of transgender prisoners.

“Governor Perry’s letter rejecting PREA is a disgraceful illustration of why Texas prisons are among the most violent in the country,” Lovisa Stannow, Executive Director of Just Detention International, said in a statement. The organization, which works on ending sexual abuse in prisons, said it had received more letters from Texan survivors of sexual violence than from any other state.

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1 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 4, 2014 11:20:05am

i guess he’ll get the pro rape vote when he runs for congress.

2 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 11:20:37am

You’re forgetting to take into account that Rick Perry is a sick little shit who is a horrible excuse for a human being.

3 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 11:25:26am

Governor Perry is just following through with his total complete absolute and sincere “prolife” agenda, just giving his “values voters” what they want.

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4 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 11:26:50am

Perry is on short timer’s hours now, not that he ever really did anything anyways.

5 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 11:28:28am

This is why he’s so popular on the Right - Prison isn’t supposed to be FUN! These are the same assholes who love them some Joe Arpaio.

6 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 11:28:40am

I’m just surprised he didn’t say enforcing this law violates the religious beliefs of the rapists.

7 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 11:31:53am

[perry] 1st you make us feed the prisoners and now you are asking us to care for them too? [/perry]

8 S'latch  Apr 4, 2014 11:32:27am

It’s not that Rick Perry has any personal animus towards the Obama Administration or Attorney General Eric Holder.

Rick Perry just remembered that the United States Department of Justice is that third agency of the federal government he wants to eliminate.

Youtube Video

9 darthstar  Apr 4, 2014 11:33:42am

Governor Davis will fix that in another 9 months.

10 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 11:36:43am

Governor Perry during the first GOP primary debate of 2016:

Unlike my good friend over there, Chris Christie, I refused to sign Attorney General Holder’s anti-prison rape form!!!

Audience:

Cheers

11 lawhawk  Apr 4, 2014 11:38:21am

re: #5 GeneJockey

12 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 11:40:20am

re: #11 lawhawk

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Arpaio has is own little fiefdom and he is not about to give it up.

13 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 11:40:27am

i’m beginning to think that teabag ass politicians go beyond moron into being meerons and mutron brains

14 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 11:43:33am

Pat Buchanan: God Is On Putin’s Side, While “The West Is Gomorrah”

Is “Pat” a common name among the crazies?

15 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 11:44:14am

A good roundup of questionable pics from Syria
Questions Arise About Staged or Faked News Photos From Syria

16 jaunte  Apr 4, 2014 11:44:37am
Jason Clark, spokesman for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, said the prison system has already made significant progress in meeting PREA standards.

“We are compliant with most of PREA’s standards, except for the cross-gender supervision standard,” Clark said.

That regulation, which is the primary rule to which Perry objects, would prohibit female officers from working in areas where they would see male inmates in private settings, such as the shower. About 40 percent of TDCJ correctional officers at units that house males are female, Perry wrote. PREA standards would force TDCJ to deny female officers jobs and promotion opportunities at those units.

The rules would also require a smaller ratio of correctional officers to juveniles at facilities that house offenders younger than 18. Perry said the cost of meeting that requirement would be unacceptably burdensome to small, local jails. texastribune.org

Because suddenly Perry is concerned about female jobs and promotion opportunities.

17 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 11:45:01am
18 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 11:45:04am

re: #14 FemNaziBitch

Pat Buchanan: God Is On Putin’s Side, While “The West Is Gomorrah”

Is “Pat” a common name among the crazies?

america, love it or leave it, pat

19 klys  Apr 4, 2014 11:45:32am

re: #16 jaunte

Because suddenly Perry is concerned about female jobs and promotion opportunities.

Kind of like how “free speech” suddenly matters when bigots all of a sudden can’t be CEOs anymore.

21 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 4, 2014 11:46:43am

just wait till Debtors Prisons make their official comeback. I feel its coming no matter who is elected President as the country continues its locally rightward lurch.

The for-profit private prison system means there has to be a constant inflow of prisoners to make a $$$ profit. With the legalization of pot and possibly other drugs, prison corporations will need to fill the hole. People in debt will do nicely.

With this in mind, I think those lower income whites who currently vote Republican/Tea Party reflexsively will wonder what happened as their late credit cards and mortgages turn into months or years in jail. And the possible rape and other assorted violence that follows in prison amy make them rethink their previous positions.

22 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 11:47:34am

re: #20 FemNaziBitch

Charles Koch Claims That African American President Barack Obama Has Stolen His Freedom

Unreadable. I could not get past the first paragraph.

23 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 11:48:01am

The “poll” MSNBC has set up for this:

Why do you think Rick Perry is refusing to follow the Prison Rape Elimination Act?

(1) Out of disrespect for the federal government and Obama.

(2) Because he knows what’s best for his state.

(3) I don’t know.

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Good Lord. Does MSNBC have preschoolers writing these poll questions?

25 jaunte  Apr 4, 2014 11:49:09am

re: #23 Bulworth

They forgot:

(4) Governments should never raise taxes

26 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 4, 2014 11:49:49am

re: #23 Bulworth

The “poll” MSNBC has set up for this:

(1) Out of disrespect for the federal government and Obama.

(2) Because he knows what’s best for his state.

(3) I don’t know.

—————-

Good Lord. Does MSNBC have preschoolers writing these poll questions?

(5) Benghazi

28 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 11:51:05am

re: #23 Bulworth

The “poll” MSNBC has set up for this:

(1) Out of disrespect for the federal government and Obama.

(2) Because he knows what’s best for his state.

(3) I don’t know.

—————-

Good Lord. Does MSNBC have preschoolers writing these poll questions?

I saw an MSNBC poll a few months ago, “Do republicans hate they poor?”

29 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 11:51:33am

re: #22 Pie-onist Overlord

Unreadable. I could not get past the first paragraph.

Oy vey, never mind —I messed-up my tabs —-

30 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 11:52:26am

re: #21 Rocky-in-Connecticut

just wait till Debtors Prisons make their official comeback. I feel its coming no matter who is elected President as the country continues its locally rightward lurch.

The for-profit private prison system means there has to be a constant inflow of prisoners to make a $$$ profit. With the legalization of pot and possibly other drugs, prison corporations will need to fill the hole. People in debt will do nicely.

With this in mind, I think those lower income whites who currently vote Republican/Tea Party reflexsively will wonder what happened as their late credit cards and mortgages turn into months or years in jail. And the possible rape and other assorted violence that follows in prison amy make them rethink their previous positions.

Debtor’s Prison has made a come-back in some areas. Not codified by law, as that would probably not happen.

31 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 11:56:01am
Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder who is holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, has agreed to write a new book detailing his tussles with Google, his publisher, the independent house OR Books, announced.

latimes.com

I can hardly wait!!! Oh wait, yes I can.

So this book will be free to be downloaded by everybody?

32 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 11:57:16am

re: #20 FemNaziBitch

Charles Koch Claims That African American President Barack Obama Has Stolen His Freedom

They (The Koch Bros) may soon be sorry they have come out from behind the foundations they hid behind. As the article states, many people did not know who they were and now they’ve made themselves more publicly known, more people can target them. But they’ve been called out by the media, so they just had to fight back and let everyone know, gosh by golly, we really are swell guys.

This is probably all Rachel Maddow’s fault. Her script writers constantly had her reading negative corporate agiprop against them. It is almost as unfair as targeting a CEO for his stance on a political issue that is highly unpopular.

/// (Red Meat Sauce)

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 11:59:01am

re: #32 ObserverArt

They (The Koch Bros) may soon be sorry they have come out from behind the foundations they hid behind. As the article states, many people did not know who they were and now they’ve made themselves more publicly known, more people can target them. But they’ve been called out by the media, so they just had to fight back and let everyone know, gosh by golly, we really are swell guys.

This is probably all Rachel Maddow’s fault. Her script writers constantly had her reading negative corporate agiprop against them. It is almost as unfair as targeting a CEO for his stance on a political issue that is highly unpopular.

/// (Red Meat Sauce)

You actually read that article? It was like a liberal version of Sarah Palin word salad.

34 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 12:00:28pm

re: #21 Rocky-in-Connecticut

just wait till Debtors Prisons make their official comeback. I feel its coming no matter who is elected President as the country continues its locally rightward lurch.

The for-profit private prison system means there has to be a constant inflow of prisoners to make a $$$ profit. With the legalization of pot and possibly other drugs, prison corporations will need to fill the hole. People in debt will do nicely.

With this in mind, I think those lower income whites who currently vote Republican/Tea Party reflexsively will wonder what happened as their late credit cards and mortgages turn into months or years in jail. And the possible rape and other assorted violence that follows in prison amy make them rethink their previous positions.

A good friend and I had a theory many years ago when the huge growth of ‘big box’ stores started to be built and change the retail landscape. We figured after the big stores got everyone’s money and everyone was tapped out, they could convert the stores into debtors prisons.

Yes, your new debtors Home is Home Depot.

35 jaunte  Apr 4, 2014 12:01:30pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

I’ll be with the cranks on aisle 9.

36 lawhawk  Apr 4, 2014 12:01:42pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

Ah, Repo Depot. You can do it, we can help. /

37 lawhawk  Apr 4, 2014 12:01:48pm
38 Ace-o-aces  Apr 4, 2014 12:01:58pm

re: #16 jaunte

Because suddenly Perry is concerned about female jobs and promotion opportunities.

It’s a legitamite point he makes, but considering that all the law requires him to do at this point is write a letter stating why they are out of complaince and what they are doing to correct the situation, the response is kind of stupid. Basicly he’s writting a letter saying that he refuses to write letter.

39 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 12:02:27pm
Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder who is holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London

Oh, that’s where he is? Mmmm, OK.

40 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 12:03:59pm

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

You actually read that article? It was like a liberal version of Sarah Palin word salad.

No, I read enough to get that one bit about Charles’ op ed piece. I figured that would be the thrust of the article, and once confirmed I could write the very loaded comment.

I feel like being a bit tone deaf today.

: ) Mischief…

41 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 12:06:49pm

have a first world problem day:

thundershower not predicted by the iphone!

now i will have to tide myself over on doritos and graham crackers until it’s dry enough outside to go get some real lunch

42 piratedan  Apr 4, 2014 12:07:34pm

well lets hope that Governor Perry does some time in some of his own state’s prisons so he can express just how much of a rape proponent he is… I’m sure that we can find something nefarious that he’s done, after all, he’s a Republican.

43 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 12:07:35pm

re: #31 b.d.

I can hardly wait!!! Oh wait, yes I can.

So this book will be free to be downloaded by everybody?

Oh and! Bitcoin!!!

44 Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2014 12:08:15pm

re: #16 jaunte

Because suddenly Perry is concerned about female jobs and promotion opportunities.

One of the more transparent right wing excuses I’ve seen recently.

45 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 4, 2014 12:08:38pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

A good friend and I had a theory many years ago when the huge growth of ‘big box’ stores started to be built and change the retail landscape. We figured after the big stores got everyone’s money and everyone was tapped out, they could convert the stores into debtors prisons.

Yes, your new debtors Home is Home Despot.

FTFY. ;)

46 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 12:08:53pm

“When Google Met WikiLeaks”

i hear the sex scenes are really exciting

47 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:10:09pm

re: #43 b.d.

48 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 12:11:34pm
49 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:12:03pm

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

You actually read that article? It was like a liberal version of Sarah Palin word salad.

It comes off as a wall of text. The sentences are so long it feels like it should be read as a breathless panicked monologue. The overuse of buzzwords and catch phrases doesn’t help much either.

50 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 12:12:57pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

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And it starts. Vlad is not going to like Hillary.

51 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 12:13:10pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

A good friend and I had a theory many years ago when the huge growth of ‘big box’ stores started to be built and change the retail landscape. We figured after the big stores got everyone’s money and everyone was tapped out, they could convert the stores into debtors prisons.

Yes, your new debtors Home is Home Depot.

Think about Sears. Everyone owed so much money on their Sears Charge Account, they couldn’t shop anywhere else.

Sears is gone.

52 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 12:14:28pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

It comes off as a wall of text. The sentences are so long it feels like it should be read as a breathless panicked monologue. The overuse of buzzwords and catch phrases doesn’t help much either.

And no supporting links. It was a bad post.

53 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 12:14:43pm

re: #51 FemNaziBitch

Think about Sears. Everyone owed so much money on their Sears Charge Account, they couldn’t shop anywhere else.

Sears is gone.

Sears was destroyed when a hedge fund Libertarian applied an Ayn Rand business model to it.

54 Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2014 12:15:17pm

How awesome is it to see Hillary Clinton tweeting #PussyRiot?

55 FemNaziBitch  Apr 4, 2014 12:16:12pm

bbl

56 makeitstop  Apr 4, 2014 12:16:15pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

How awesome is it to see Hillary Clinton tweeting #PussyRiot?

I had that thought when I saw the tweet earlier.

57 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 12:16:34pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I think she’s gonna run.

I know, going way out on a limb there……

58 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:17:01pm

Intolerance in the Name of Tolerance

Two things are clear. One, a company is within its rights to dismiss a top executive who does not reflect its values or priorities. Two, activists are within their rights to criticize positions held by corporate executives. So what went wrong in the Mozilla/Eich case? A handful of hotheads forgot what the gay rights movement is fighting for: the embrace of diversity and the freedom for all Americans, gay and straight, to live publicly as who they truly are.
…
It’s a big country and there are intolerant and intemperate people on all sides of every issue. This won’t be the last time activists and publicity seekers call for the head of someone they don’t like. When gay-marriage opponents claim that a new reign of terror is abroad in the land, however, please remember that the large majority of gay and lesbian Americans share with the large majority of conservatives and Christians a desire to live and let live, and it is those large majorities that will prevail in our majoritarian country.

59 Political Atheist  Apr 4, 2014 12:17:04pm

I thought these guys hated gays and gay sex. So he won’t lift a finger to reduce violent homosexual rape, but he is fine with persecuting gays. Hmmm. Seems a bit schizo to me.

60 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 12:17:52pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

Sears was destroyed when a hedge fund Libertarian applied an Ayn Rand business model to it.

Yep, Sears is on its last legs - actually, I’d say one foot in the grave - and I have doubts anyone at this point could save it.

Sears - killed by Eddie Lampert. And Ayn Rand.

61 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 12:18:30pm

re: #43 b.d.

Oh and! Bitcoin!!!

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“…for Assange, the liberating power of the Internet is based on its freedom and statelessness.”

There’s his problem in a nutshell, right there, if you substitute “lawlessness” for “statelessness”. Without states, there are no laws. Without laws, there is really no “liberation”, simply anarchy where “might makes right”.

62 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:18:33pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

How awesome is it to see Hillary Clinton tweeting #PussyRiot?

It childish but I’m just happy to see the naughty words used by politicians. Kind of like in the 90’s when the Butthole Surfers had a top 10 hit we got to hear the band named mentioned on the radio.

63 calochortus  Apr 4, 2014 12:19:03pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

Sears was destroyed when a hedge fund Libertarian applied an Ayn Rand business model to it.

Because nothing improves a store’s service like having one department warring with another.
/

64 EdDantes  Apr 4, 2014 12:20:44pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

It childish but I’m just happy to see the naughty words used by politicians. Kind of like in the 90’s when the Butthole Surfers had a top 10 hit we got to hear the band named mentioned on the radio.

I know all the words to “pepper”

65 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 12:21:37pm

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

Yep, Sears is on its last legs - actually, I’d say one foot in the grave - and I have doubts anyone at this point could save it.

Sears - killed by Eddie Lampert. And Ayn Rand.

I was in a Sears store a couple of weeks ago to buy some parts for my Sears-brand vacuum cleaner.

It smelled of silent despair.

66 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 12:23:02pm

re: #59 Political Atheist

I thought these guys hated gays and gay sex. So he won’t lift a finger to reduce violent homosexual rape, but he is fine with persecuting gays. Hmmm. Seems a bit schizo to me.

Prison rape is not gay sex. It’s not sex. It’s violence and domination.

Haters are OK with more hate.

67 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 12:23:06pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Intolerance in the Name of Tolerance

the intolerance of the ceo versus the free speech rights of the people criticizing him?

was that what the headline referred to?

68 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 12:23:11pm

re: #63 calochortus

Because nothing improves a store’s service like having one department warring with another.
/

And deciding that Sears stores had to be run like KMart, rather than KMart being run like Sears.

KMart is also on its last legs, being crushed by Walmart.

69 EdDantes  Apr 4, 2014 12:23:55pm

re: #65 Pie-onist Overlord

Sears sucks. More than K-Mart

70 calochortus  Apr 4, 2014 12:25:20pm

re: #68 Pie-onist Overlord

And deciding that Sears stores had to be run like KMart, rather than KMart being run like Sears.

KMart is also on its last legs, being crushed by Walmart.

Both Sears and K-Mart would benefit by having someone do a decent job cleaning their floors occasionally.*

*I haven’t actually set foot in either in a couple years, so things may have improved. Or not.

71 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 12:29:12pm

re: #65 Pie-onist Overlord

I was in a Sears store a couple of weeks ago to buy some parts for my Sears-brand vacuum cleaner.

It smelled of silent despair.

That must be quite an aroma. Sad, really; I worked at Sears during what I guess now was it’s “last gasp” in the early to mid 1990s. I was lucky - I had a great boss, great co-workers, and I even won a couple of awards for customer service ‘above and beyond the call of duty’, such as it were. I owe that to my mentors there, one of whom was a real old-timer, a lifer. He taught me a lot about retail.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 4, 2014 12:29:28pm

re: #70 calochortus

Both Sears and K-Mart would benefit by having someone do a decent job cleaning their floors occasionally.*

*I haven’t actually set foot in either in a couple years, so things may have improved. Or not.

J C Penny is headed that way as well. Place just has an atmosphere that makes you want to leave as quickly as possible.

73 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 12:29:30pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

It childish but I’m just happy to see the naughty words used by politicians. Kind of like in the 90’s when the Butthole Surfers had a top 10 hit we got to hear the band named mentioned on the radio.

Another one of those “re-appropriated” words. I remember as a very young teen going to the library to find out the appropriate terms for what nasty young boys were taunting me with in 9th grade algebra class and which I subsequently heard from men as a term of disdain and vulgar reference and which I saw as a sign of ignorance.

I wouldn’t think Clinton has fond memories of those years, either. I’m sure she is more supportive of the ideology those women espouse rather than the name they chose for themselves.

74 Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 4, 2014 12:31:22pm

re: #72 Feline Fearless Leader

For years now, I have only used JCP and Sears as close parking at the mall, since their lots are always deserted.

75 klys  Apr 4, 2014 12:31:32pm

re: #67 dog philosopher

the intolerance of the ceo versus the free speech rights of the people criticizing him?

was that what the headline referred to?

You forget, us peons have no right to criticize CEOs. It’s not like they publicly represent the companies they head or play any kind of leadership role, so their beliefs and attitudes have no impact. They should be held to the same standard as every worker and that’s why their pay is on a similar scale.

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76 calochortus  Apr 4, 2014 12:31:54pm

re: #72 Feline Fearless Leader

J C Penny is headed that way as well. Place just has an atmosphere that makes you want to leave as quickly as possible.

Sad, but true.

77 lawhawk  Apr 4, 2014 12:31:54pm

If there’s a dead or dying strip mall or shopping mall near you, it may well have a JC Penney, Kmart, or Sears as an anchor tenant. They do smell of despair, that when not smelling of mold/mildew, and inventory that isn’t moving because those who make these kinds of purchasing decisions don’t know what sells.

There are departments that are nearly barren, while others are overstocked and overflowing with goods. It’s a hodgepodge of crap and no one seems to take any pride in how any of the departments look.

The best parts of Sears - the hardware and durable goods (appliances) departments are also withering away because the Kenmore and Craftsman brands don’t carry the cachet they used to, and you can buy similar quality elsewhere.

And much of it traces to Lambert’s decisions to make departments fight each other and undermined performance across the board at the company.

Sears is a company circling the drain. Kmart is probably across the event horizon; there’s no turning back the clock on its inevitable demise.

Similarly, JC Penney was run into the ground in much the same way. It’s in nearly as bad shape as Sears (just without the cachet brands like Craftsman or Kenmore to keep it limping along).

Together, they are a tale of woe for business managers who think they’re the smartest in the room and whose results show that they are far worse than throwing darts at a board.

78 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:33:50pm

re: #63 calochortus

Because nothing improves a store’s service like having one department warring with another.
/

“Kitchen and Houseware has always been at war with Automotive Supplies.”

79 makeitstop  Apr 4, 2014 12:34:02pm

re: #65 Pie-onist Overlord

I was in a Sears store a couple of weeks ago to buy some parts for my Sears-brand vacuum cleaner.

It smelled of silent despair.

There’s one near us, in a big mall. The Macy’s in that mall just finished an expansion and facelift, and people are flocking to it.

The poor Sears is at the end of the mall, and some departments have more empty shelves than stock. It reminds me of what they used to say stores were like in Soviet Russia. Kinda sad.

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 4, 2014 12:34:29pm

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

That must be quite an aroma. Sad, really; I worked at Sears during what I guess now was it’s “last gasp” in the early to mid 1990s. I was lucky - I had a great boss, great co-workers, and I even won a couple of awards for customer service ‘above and beyond the call of duty’, such as it were. I owe that to my mentors there, one of whom was a real old-timer, a lifer. He taught me a lot about retail.

The mid-90s was roughly when Sears lost my business. Got a massive hassle trying to return and get a refund on a vehicle bike rack I bought there that was missing pieces and also had pieces where holes for connections were off by over an inch. Shoddy quality control and thus poor merchandise. Compounded by being treated in a way that made me feel that purchasing it there was *my* fault.

81 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 12:35:24pm
82 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:35:39pm

re: #75 klys

You forget, us peons have no right to criticize CEOs. It’s not like they publicly represent the companies they head or play any kind of leadership role, so their beliefs and attitudes have no impact. They should be held to the same standard as every worker and that’s why their pay is on a similar scale.

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The author of the article

Jonathan Rauch is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the author of “Kindly Inquisitors: The New Attacks on Free Thought” and “Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America.”

It shouldn’t be unthinkable that people might disagree with the tactics, they aren’t even opponents or enemies. Sometimes people have a different perspective.

83 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 12:36:42pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

It childish but I’m just happy to see the naughty words used by politicians. Kind of like in the 90’s when the Butthole Surfers had a top 10 hit we got to hear the band named mentioned on the radio.

I have got my wife hooked on shows like Xena: Warrior Princess and Hercules: The Legendary journeys on Netflix. We watched on episode last night where they used “Ass” and “Bitch” and it was right around the time the FCC relaxed regulations on language. All throughout the seasons, up until that point, the language was “clean”. Made me chuckle just a bit.

84 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 12:37:57pm

Intolerance in the Name of Tolerance

add calls for suppression of the free speech of people criticizing them to the pro-control, anti freedom policies of conservatives who so often tout how much they are the ones who are against government control and “pro-freedom”

we already have pro-big-government, anti-freedom calls for

- ‘tort reform’ - controls on the amount individuals can sue companies for

- ‘border control’ - crack down on people illegally here to work - but not on the companies hiring them by the millions

- ‘pro-life policies’ - control women’s bodies with more and more laws restricting their access to healthcare

- ‘election reform’ - making it harder and harder to vote, every day

- ‘defense of marriage’ - suppression of the rights of gay folks

did i miss anything?

85 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 12:38:27pm

re: #64 EdDantes

I know all the words to “pepper”

I still say Independent Worm Saloon was a better album than the one with “Pepper” on it. Can’t remember the album name.

86 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:38:48pm

re: #83 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I have got my wife hooked on shows like Xena: Warrior Princess and Hercules: The Legendary journeys on Netflix. We watched on episode last night where they used “Ass” and “Bitch” and it was right around the time the FCC relaxed regulations on language. All throughout the seasons, up until that point, the language was “clean”. Made me chuckle just a bit.

I’m old enough to remember when profanity was allowed on basic cable. Even some light nudity later at night.

87 klys  Apr 4, 2014 12:39:20pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

The author of the article

It shouldn’t be unthinkable that people might disagree with the tactics, they aren’t even opponents or enemies. Sometimes people have a different perspective.

I did, in fact, read the essay. I also read the other two essays, including one by someone who is gay and works in the tech industry who said she would have been very leery working for a company where the CEO has put money towards a constitutional amendment designed to restrict her rights.

Funny, that. It’s like, there are real world consequences related specifically to this being the role of the CEO, and yet you are all busy being concerned that this might lead to oppression. Never mind the very real oppression people can still face for being gay - we have to worry about making sure the bigots don’t feel like their bigotry isn’t being tolerated anymore!

But hey, apparently yesterday’s discussion seems to have left you thinking minds still need to be changed here, since you keep linking opinions that support your own and none for the other side. Keep fucking that chicken.

88 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:39:40pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

I’m old enough to remember when profanity was allowed on basic cable. Even some light nudity later at night.

Those were the good old days when the religious right was trying to ban music.

89 Killgore Trout  Apr 4, 2014 12:40:35pm

re: #87 klys

Keep fucking that chicken

Will do!

90 calochortus  Apr 4, 2014 12:40:46pm

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

They lost me a bit earlier when they moved from the housewares, tools, and things-you-couldn’t-get-elsewhere model, to the standardized trendy clothing model. Their profits went up, but it didn’t last.

I’ve been spending some time lately wondering if there is such a thing as an economy that can be robust while emphasizing more expensive, quality goods that will last over cheap disposable crap, or if we’re just all doomed.

91 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 12:40:58pm

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

The mid-90s was roughly when Sears lost my business. Got a massive hassle trying to return and get a refund on a vehicle bike rack I bought there that was missing pieces and also had pieces where holes for connections were off by over an inch. Shoddy quality control and thus poor merchandise. Compounded by being treated in a way that made me feel that purchasing it there was *my* fault.

That sucks.

One of those events I won an award for was as follows; a woman had purchased a treadmill, and the control board went belly-up after 15 days. Of course, it was under warranty. So I called the service center (lolol) and they said it would take five weeks to get one. Never being one to take that kind of BS as acceptable, I called the manufacturer in Utah. They could FedEx one up to me and I’d have it two days.

So I spoke to my boss, and he said, “Do it - we’ll bill the service center”. So I ordered it. And when it came in, after work, I went to the customers house, swapped them out, and she was very happy. Mind you, the service center wasn’t too happy with me, but tough shit.

92 Timothy Watson  Apr 4, 2014 12:41:19pm

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

The mid-90s was roughly when Sears lost my business. Got a massive hassle trying to return and get a refund on a vehicle bike rack I bought there that was missing pieces and also had pieces where holes for connections were off by over an inch. Shoddy quality control and thus poor merchandise. Compounded by being treated in a way that made me feel that purchasing it there was *my* fault.

My family stopped shopping at Sears when their automotive section tried to screw my dad on tires for his car. They claimed they wouldn’t touch the car without replacing two tires (one needed to replace but the other was fine) and told him the cheapest tire they had was $350 a piece. My dad took the car to this local shop and got one for $89.

93 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 12:42:01pm

Sears sold complete house kits until 1940.

bchrs.org

Image: sears+house.jpg

Plenty of other models as well, including Craftsman style.

94 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:42:05pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Those were the good old days when the religious right was trying to ban music.

Ah yes, I remember those golden days, and Anthrax’s response to those efforts.

Definitely 100% totally NSFW

Youtube Video

95 Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 4, 2014 12:42:10pm

re: #64 EdDantes

A sort-of new twist on the old classic:

Youtube Video

96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 12:44:05pm

re: #90 calochortus

I’ve been spending some time lately wondering if there is such a thing as an economy that can be robust while emphasizing more expensive, quality goods that will last over cheap disposable crap, or if we’re just all doomed.

If wages allowed, people would more than likely buy more expensive/quality goods over settling for cheap garbage.

97 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:44:15pm
98 dog philosopher  Apr 4, 2014 12:45:04pm

re: #75 klys

You forget, us peons have no right to criticize CEOs. It’s not like they publicly represent the companies they head or play any kind of leadership role, so their beliefs and attitudes have no impact. They should be held to the same standard as every worker and that’s why their pay is on a similar scale.

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we also should be forbidden to criticize workers in a business that use racist language to customers, since it would be limiting their free speech/////////////////////////

99 Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 4, 2014 12:47:00pm

re: #85 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Fun fact you might not know if you’re not from the DFW area: Gibby Haynes’ dad, Jerry Haynes, local kids morning show in the early 70s, “Peppermint Place.” He would often show up to Butthole Surfers’ shows in Dallas to support his son (although sadly, without sidekick Muffin or his trademark candy cane striped blazer).

mix931fm.com

100 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 12:47:52pm

I remember one of the highlights of the year as a kid was getting the Sears Christmas catalog in the mail. We’d go through it circling all the toys we wanted. Going to a mall usually meant going through a Sears store and they were always nice to go into. And Craftsman tools used to be one of the top brands.

Now Craftsman tools are cheap and Sears is a joke. KMart is just as bad (made even worse by its alliance with the worst of the pizza chains, Little Caesar’s (Many of the KMarts here have little Caesar’s pizza joints inside much like having McDonalds in Wal Mart).

101 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:48:05pm
102 EdDantes  Apr 4, 2014 12:48:17pm

re: #95 Flying Squirrel Girl
Ok. but not a Butthole Surfer.

103 calochortus  Apr 4, 2014 12:49:51pm

re: #96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

If wages allowed, people would more than likely buy more expensive/quality goods over settling for cheap garbage.

I’m not sure about that. People love, love, love a “bargain”. I have a friend who can easily afford to buy the best and pay full retail for it, but is always looking for a ‘deal’. Sometimes it is high quality, sometimes not so much. When you add in the question of the profit margin on an item, working conditions for the people making the stuff, etc., etc. it becomes hard to know what anything is “worth.”

104 Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2014 12:49:59pm

Seriously thinking of making the new mobile version of LGF public. On the staging server, all the main pages of the site now adapt themselves to small screen sizes beautifully — the front page, articles, and LGF Pages. Might as well push it out there into the wild and see what happens.

105 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 12:50:36pm

Who was in my room last night

Youtube Video

106 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 12:51:21pm

re: #101 Kragar

The LOLs, they cannot be stopped

107 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:53:56pm

re: #106 Bulworth

The LOLs, they cannot be stopped

“WE HAD A RESEARCH TEAM! THEY WENT THRU #TCOT PULLING ALL SORTS OF QUOTES!”

108 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 12:54:58pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Seriously thinking of making the new mobile version of LGF public. On the staging server, all the main pages of the site now adapt themselves to small screen sizes beautifully — the front page, articles, and LGF Pages. Might as well push it out there into the wild and see what happens.

When I pull up a single comment, the bar with my nic and the menu button shows up on the left side of the header, behind the logo.

109 EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2014 12:56:11pm

re: #107 Kragar

“WE HAD A RESEARCH TEAM! THEY WENT THRU #TCOT PULLING ALL SORTS OF QUOTES!”

Their research team must have sifted out only the choicest nuggets from various sewers of the internet.

110 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 12:56:27pm

re: #105 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Who was in my room last night

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That’s some pretty sophomoric shit. I don’t get the appeal.

111 Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2014 12:57:35pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Seriously thinking of making the new mobile version of LGF public. On the staging server, all the main pages of the site now adapt themselves to small screen sizes beautifully — the front page, articles, and LGF Pages. Might as well push it out there into the wild and see what happens.

You sure that’s why? It might become self-aware and then decide that humans are a threat.

//

112 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 12:57:57pm

For those of you who missed it:

A review of former congressman and Founding Father enthusiast Allen West’s new book has turned up a wide assortment of fake quotes attributed to Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and other famous historical figures.

According to the Palm Beach Post, West’s “Guardian of the Republic,” which outlines his political philosophy and his “warrior code,” includes many quotes that have been described by historians as erroneous.

113 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 12:58:12pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

When I pull up a single comment, the bar with my nic and the menu button shows up on the left side of the header, behind the logo.

I wanted to ask; how much do retro-style LED front lights (battery operated) go for in the US?

Like this: Image: 1084-0-full-axa_vintage_chrome-23.jpg

114 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 12:59:08pm

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

That’s some pretty sophomoric shit. I don’t get the appeal.

The album came out in 1993 when I was in Jr. High, I loved it.

115 EdDantes  Apr 4, 2014 12:59:15pm

I’m a Frisbiterian, We believe when you die your soul goes on the roof and you can’t get it down.

116 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 4, 2014 12:59:45pm

re: #93 Justanotherhuman

Sears sold complete house kits until 1940.

bchrs.org

Image: sears+house.jpg

Plenty of other models as well, including Craftsman style.

I just sold one of those. It was a Westley built in 1930. That house is very solid with horsehair plaster walls and heart pine flooring you can’t find anywhere.

117 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 1:00:26pm

re: #112 Kragar

Historians? What do they know?

//

118 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 1:00:34pm

re: #113 Dr Lizardo

I wanted to ask; how much do retro-style LED front lights (battery operated) go for in the US?

Like this: Image: 1084-0-full-axa_vintage_chrome-23.jpg

$40, in stock now!

119 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 1:02:06pm

re: #112 Kragar

“warrior code”

OFFS

Real Sermon on the Mount kind of guy.

120 Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2014 1:02:10pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

When I pull up a single comment, the bar with my nic and the menu button shows up on the left side of the header, behind the logo.

Fixed.

121 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 1:02:13pm

and, inevitably, looking up that video led me to another classic

Wynona’s Big Brown Beaver

Youtube Video

122 Bulworth  Apr 4, 2014 1:03:05pm

re: #112 Kragar

You know who else believed in a “warrior code”?

half sarc

123 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 1:03:20pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Fixed.

OK, now you can launch!

124 klys  Apr 4, 2014 1:03:48pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Fixed.

Also, on the comments in the main page, occasionally the ! box is appearing down a line. Never did that before yesterday.

125 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 1:05:29pm

Incredible bullshit from Cantor.

Cantor holds firm against unemployment bill

thehill.com

126 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2014 1:05:39pm

re: #124 klys

Also, on the comments in the main page, occasionally the ! box is appearing down a line. Never did that before yesterday.

obviously this site is failing like healthcare.gov so the whole thing should be scrapped //

127 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 4, 2014 1:05:51pm

re: #37 lawhawk

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128 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 1:06:20pm

re: #119 Bulworth

“warrior code”

OFFS

Real Sermon on the Mount kind of guy.

I am unaware of any “warrior code” that says beating fake confessions out of and threatening to kill civilians is okay.

129 palomino  Apr 4, 2014 1:07:05pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I saw an MSNBC poll a few months ago, “Do republicans hate they poor?”

Seems like a reasonable question to me. Have you heard the far right rhetoric that describes the unemployed and working poor as “moochers” and “takers” and “leeches”? Those are words you use to describe what you hate.

Maybe your outrage over the poll is a bit exaggerated. Kind of an outrageous outrage, wouldn’t you say?

130 Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2014 1:08:14pm

re: #124 klys

Also, on the comments in the main page, occasionally the ! box is appearing down a line. Never did that before yesterday.

This should also be fixed now.

131 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:10:01pm

re: #101 Kragar

[Called Allen West about fake founding father’s quotes in his book “I know that we had a research team, go through my publicist (hangs up).”]

Arrogant ass would never admit to being wrong.

Amazing how TeaParty folks and pols like Rand Paul and other Republicans can be so wrong on so many things, steal copyrighted material, used wrong quotes, bend the bible, deny science and be all loud and proud about it. They truly are selling to lowest of the low. Question is though…how does any of it elevate anyone, which you’d think a ‘leader’ would want to do.

“Vote for me, I’ll keep you stupid!”

132 The War TARDIS  Apr 4, 2014 1:10:33pm

re: #93 Justanotherhuman

Hey, uh, can I have one of those.

I wan’t something that isn’t a MCMansion.

133 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 1:11:13pm

Bizarre.

Alleged bank robber fatally shot by Seattle police is ID’d as chef

blogs.seattletimes.com

134 Timothy Watson  Apr 4, 2014 1:11:19pm

I have these two songs in my head and it’s driving me nuts, it’s all Person of Interest’s (episode from last season that I rewatched recently) and The Blacklist’s (most recent episode) fault.
Youtube Video
Youtube Video

135 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 1:11:25pm

I did not hear about this before

Allen West Is Gone from Another Job Following Alleged Anti-Semitism

Former congressman Allen West, who was hustled out of the military before being hustled out of Congress after one term, is now also leaving his job at right-wing news outlet PJ Media. And this time the tireless Israel supporter is being accused of anti-Semitism.

BuzzFeed’s Rosie Gray reports that West is out as director of programming for PJ Media’s nextgeneration.tv. Gray’s sources tell her West was fired after getting into an argument in which he called an employee a “Jewish American Princess” and told her to “shut up.”

136 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 1:11:26pm

re: #118 wrenchwench

$40, in stock now!

Wow. I didn’t realize they were that much. I’ll see about converting mine to an LED; I need to find the Czech version of a Radio Shack for one of those little toggle switches. Other than that, I can buy a small LED flashlight that uses AAA batteries for about $1 or so and then just borrow my neighbor’s soldering iron and get it going. I saw a few vids on YouTube, and apparently, it’s pretty easy to do.

I found a whole new rear wheel with coaster brake hub at a scrapyard not far from here - cost me $6, so the bikes pretty much ready to go. I’ll have to replace the front brake (the spoon brake) pad, but I improvised on that; I used an old leather belt, cut it to fit, and glued the leather together to the appropriate thickness to fit the brake shoe. A lot of those old spoon brake pads were made of leather typically.

137 klys  Apr 4, 2014 1:11:32pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

This should also be fixed now.

Reloaded and yep, it’s fixed.

138 EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2014 1:12:25pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

Arrogant ass would never admit to being wrong.

Amazing how TeaParty folks and pols like Rand Paul and other Republicans can be so wrong on so many things, steal copyrighted material, used wrong quotes, bend the bible, deny science and be all loud and proud about it. They truly are selling to lowest of the low. Question is though…how does any of it elevate anyone, which you’d think a ‘leader’ would want to do.

“Vote for me, I’ll keep you stupid!”

The preference the GOP base has for lies over truth is really a sight to behold.

Self-inflicted propaganda has reached heights the Nazis and Soviet Communists could only dream of.

139 The War TARDIS  Apr 4, 2014 1:13:14pm

re: #135 Kragar

The way the Republican Party thinks of Israel is anti-semitic.

140 makeitstop  Apr 4, 2014 1:14:58pm

re: #121 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and, inevitably, looking up that video led me to another classic

Wynona’s Big Brown Beaver

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We’re going to see Primus in a small theater in Port Chester in June. Never seen ‘em before, looking forward to it.

141 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 1:15:42pm
I loved every page of Allen West’s new book - Patrick Henry
142 lawhawk  Apr 4, 2014 1:16:18pm

Allen West, plagiarist?

143 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 1:17:34pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

Wow. I didn’t realize they were that much. I’ll see about converting mine to an LED; I need to find the Czech version of a Radio Shack for one of those little toggle switches. Other than that, I can buy a small LED flashlight that uses AAA batteries for about $1 or so and then just borrow my neighbor’s soldering iron and get it going. I saw a few vids on YouTube, and apparently, it’s pretty easy to do.

I found a whole new rear wheel with coaster brake hub at a scrapyard not far from here - cost me $6, so the bikes pretty much ready to go. I’ll have to replace the front brake (the spoon brake) pad, but I improvised on that; I used an old leather belt, cut it to fit, and glued the leather together to the appropriate thickness to fit the brake shoe. A lot of those old spoon brake pads were made of leather typically.

You need this to hold your flashlight.

144 Timothy Watson  Apr 4, 2014 1:18:01pm

re: #142 lawhawk

Allen West, plagiarist?

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Christ, after reading that, you don’t need the question mark.

145 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 1:18:29pm

I need stamps!

146 makeitstop  Apr 4, 2014 1:19:29pm

re: #135 Kragar

I did not hear about this before

Allen West Is Gone from Another Job Following Alleged Anti-Semitism

Poor Allen West, being punished for his opinions.
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147 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:19:38pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

The preference the GOP base has for lies over truth is really a sight to behold.

Self-inflicted propaganda has reached heights the Nazis and Soviet Communists could only dream of.

Seems the connection there would be hate. Jews. Blacks. Gays. Liberals. Muslims. Hispanics. Give them something to boost their already established hate and they buy whatever you say.

Fox built a news network around it.

148 palomino  Apr 4, 2014 1:20:01pm

re: #14 FemNaziBitch

Pat Buchanan: God Is On Putin’s Side, While “The West Is Gomorrah”

Is “Pat” a common name among the crazies?

From Buchanan’s article:

It is a cultural, social, moral war where Russia’s role, in Putin’s words, is to “prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state.”

Yes, who on earth would want to live in a “primitive state” like the US, Canada, Australia, or most of western Europe? Russia, with its autocratic oligarchy, phony democracy, dogshit economy, media censorship, crackdown on gays and dissidents—that’s the “advanced” place in the mind of an old fossil like Buchanan.

Turns out, in the eyes of reactionaries like Buchanan, that there was really only one thing wrong with the old Soviet Union. They didn’t go to church enough. All they needed was some theocracy. Now they’re great.

149 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:20:04pm

re: #141 b.d.

I loved every page of Allen West’s new book - Patrick Henry

Allen West is a true Patriot. - George Washington

150 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:20:52pm

Allen West…time to go bye bye. Your time is up.

151 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 1:21:41pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Poor Allen West, being punished for his opinions.
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It was the best of jobs, it was the worst of jobs - Allen West

152 EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2014 1:23:02pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

Seems the connection there would be hate. Jews. Blacks. Gays. Liberals. Muslims. Hispanics. Give them something to boost their already established hate and they buy whatever you say.

Fox built a news network around it.

That feels right to me. The “two minutes of hate” of 1984 is 24/7 at Fox News.

153 Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2014 1:25:41pm
154 Kragar  Apr 4, 2014 1:26:11pm
155 klys  Apr 4, 2014 1:27:11pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

That feels right to me. The “two minutes of hate” of 1984 is 24/7 at Fox News.

That can’t be, the left is the intolerant side.

//

156 Stanley Sea  Apr 4, 2014 1:27:42pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

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I need stamps!

Jimi Hendrix stamp is also available. I’m going to buy both. Add to my Johnny Cash ones, I’m set forever.

157 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:30:29pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

That feels right to me. The “two minutes of hate” of 1984 is 24/7 at Fox News.

Guys like Orwell and Huxley were more correct about what they saw coming even though they meant it as a caution to stop it. Oh well…damn artists, who needs ‘em.

Killing the arts in this country is going to kill this country…it is one of the reasons our education system is in the dumper. Expansion of creativity is dangerous…damn people start coloring outside the lines and that can’t happen.

158 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 1:32:48pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

You need this to hold your flashlight.

Actually, what I’ll do is use the LED bulbs and the holder inside the old light.

Like this: bicyclesafari.blogspot.cz

159 thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2014 1:32:58pm

Afternoon Lizardim from the home of the Snowpocalypse. Things seem to be melting rapidly, but it was enough to put the fishfolk in a very sour mood when they arrived. Of course, that turned around rather quickly once they caught up with the fishspawn. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sunny and beautiful afternoon?

160 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 1:33:22pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

Jimi Hendrix stamp is also available. I’m going to buy both. Add to my Johnny Cash ones, I’m set forever.

I used all my Johnny Cashes. I’d make a terrible philatelist.

161 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:34:21pm

re: #159 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim from the home of the Snowpocalypse. Things seem to be melting rapidly, but it was enough to put the fishfolk in a very sour mood when they arrived. Of course, that turned around rather quickly once they caught up with the fishspawn. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sunny and beautiful afternoon?

Windy! Real windy.

Sort of reminds me of listening to Rand Paul.

162 klys  Apr 4, 2014 1:34:42pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

I used all my Johnny Cashes. I’d make a terrible philatelist.

I’m worse! I only buy forever stamps.

I think we’re still working on the set from the wedding.

163 wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2014 1:35:02pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Actually, what I’ll do is use the LED bulbs and the holder inside the old light.

Like this: bicyclesafari.blogspot.cz

Nice!

164 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 1:37:09pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

Guys like Orwell and Huxley were more correct about what they saw coming even though they meant it as a caution to stop it. Oh well…damn artists, who needs ‘em.

Killing the arts in this country is going to kill this country…it is one of the reasons our education system is in the dumper. Expansion of creativity is dangerous…damn people start coloring outside the lines and that can’t happen.

Money has taken over art. If it doesn’t turn a profit, the hell with it.

165 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 1:37:26pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

Nice!

This video is good; it shows you step-by-step. Not very difficult, actually.

Youtube Video

166 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 4, 2014 1:40:16pm
167 makeitstop  Apr 4, 2014 1:40:26pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

Jimi Hendrix stamp is also available. I’m going to buy both. Add to my Johnny Cash ones, I’m set forever.

I have a full sheet of Elvis stamps, framed, on the wall in my office. Bought ‘em the day they dropped.

168 klys  Apr 4, 2014 1:40:56pm

re: #167 makeitstop

I have a full sheet of Elvis stamps, framed, on the wall in my office. Bought ‘em the day they dropped.

I have the Star Wars set somewhere.

169 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 1:41:54pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

Guys like Orwell and Huxley were more correct about what they saw coming even though they meant it as a caution to stop it. Oh well…damn artists, who needs ‘em.

Killing the arts in this country is going to kill this country…it is one of the reasons our education system is in the dumper. Expansion of creativity is dangerous…damn people start coloring outside the lines and that can’t happen.

Are you kidding? Nowadays you get shit if you provide lines for kids to color inside of (or not), since it might dampen their creativity.

Seriously.

170 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 1:45:46pm

re: #168 klys

I have the Star Wars set somewhere.

For a while, my late BIL made extra cash to supplement his SSI by waiting at the PO for new issues, getting some canceled the date of issue, and selling them on Ebay.

171 thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2014 1:46:46pm

re: #169 GeneJockey

Are you kidding? Nowadays you get shit if you provide lines for kids to color inside of (or not), since it might dampen their creativity.

Seriously.

Pretty sure people would absolutely freak out if they saw the way the fishspawn are being parented. We actually have the audacity to DISCIPLINE the elder fishspawn when he does something “wrong”.

172 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 4, 2014 1:46:50pm
173 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 1:47:55pm

CNN Developing lead online story:

DEVELOPING STORY: THE SEARCH FOR FLIGHT 370

See Malaysia Airlines jet — before it vanished

Plane buffs scour their images

When Flight 370 went missing, plane spotters found they had several photos of the jet before it disappeared.

174 thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2014 1:48:58pm

re: #173 b.d.

CNN Developing lead online story:

Wow. It must be a REALLY slow news day.

175 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 1:49:02pm

re: #172 NJDhockeyfan

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Serously, what in the Wide, Wide World of Sports are those meant to convey?

176 klys  Apr 4, 2014 1:51:23pm

re: #175 GeneJockey

Serously, what in the Wide, Wide World of Sports are those meant to convey?

Look for debris, fire, or water outside the emergency exit before deciding to open it.

Not the best done depiction, I agree.

177 Stephen T.  Apr 4, 2014 1:52:18pm

re: #84 dog philosopher

Intolerance in the Name of Tolerance

add calls for suppression of the free speech of people criticizing them to the pro-control, anti freedom policies of conservatives who so often tout how much they are the ones who are against government control and “pro-freedom”

we already have pro-big-government, anti-freedom calls for

- ‘tort reform’ - controls on the amount individuals can sue companies for

- ‘border control’ - crack down on people illegally here to work - but not on the companies hiring them by the millions

- ‘pro-life policies’ - control women’s bodies with more and more laws restricting their access to healthcare

- ‘election reform’ - making it harder and harder to vote, every day

- ‘defense of marriage’ - suppression of the rights of gay folks

did i miss anything?

- ‘end affirmative action’ -so that companies can stop spending so much money on loss prevention because they believe having brown people working for them means employee theft.

178 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 1:53:13pm

re: #171 thedopefishlives

Pretty sure people would absolutely freak out if they saw the way the fishspawn are being parented. We actually have the audacity to DISCIPLINE the elder fishspawn when he does something “wrong”.

We HAD TO discipline the older boy, and to do it we HAD TO yell at him. He didn’t hear us otherwise. It was so bad my wife had his hearing tested - perfectly fine, ears like a bat. Just hard to penetrate his concentration.

The younger one would actually get upset with the yelling, even though it wasn’t at him. So much more sensitive, not to mention eager to please. Well, THAT didn’t last through teenage!

179 lawhawk  Apr 4, 2014 1:53:35pm

re: #173 b.d.

IOW, it’s a reversion to the first week’s news reports at CNN, where they were basing news reports on people scouring Google Earth satellite/aircraft photos for ghost planes (which is an artifact of when the satellite captures a plane in flight).

180 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 1:55:16pm
KAMPALA (Reuters) - A U.S.-funded health project in Uganda has suspended operations after police arrested a staff member on suspicion of promoting homosexuality, highlighting the mounting legal risks confronting the gay community in the east African state.
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A U.S. State Department official said the health project conducts important research into Ebola, Marburg disease and HIV. One of the project’s aims is to develop vaccines for these diseases. It has been in operation since 2002.

news.yahoo.com

181 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 1:55:20pm

re: #177 Stephen T.

- ‘end affirmative action’ -so that companies can stop spending so much money on loss prevention because they believe having brown people working for them means employee theft.

Essentially they all boil down to empowering the powerful and enriching the rich, and they’re supported by people who are neither powerful or rich, but somehow have come to believe that the rich and powerful are under siege.

182 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 1:59:23pm

re: #169 GeneJockey

Are you kidding? Nowadays you get shit if you provide lines for kids to color inside of (or not), since it might dampen their creativity.

Seriously.

I was being more metaphoric than literal. I do not doubt what you wrote.

So, do they actually have art education in schools anymore, or is it just a free-for-all experience and not necessarily built around any actual history and things like basic color education? I really do not know. I was under the impression a lot of arts programs have been cut.

183 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:00:22pm

re: #179 lawhawk

IOW, it’s a reversion to the first week’s news reports at CNN, where they were basing news reports on people scouring Google Earth satellite/aircraft photos for ghost planes (which is an artifact of when the satellite captures a plane in flight).

Actually, it sounds even stupider. I think they’re talking about pictures of that particular plane taken by airplane buffs prior to the day it disappeared. BUT, I ain’t going to CNN to find out if I’m right.

184 thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2014 2:01:17pm

re: #183 GeneJockey

Actually, it sounds even stupider. I think they’re talking about pictures of that particular plane taken by airplane buffs prior to the day it disappeared. BUT, I ain’t going to CNN to find out if I’m right.

That’s exactly what it sounds like. Like you, I’m not planning on going over there to find out.

185 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 4, 2014 2:03:01pm
186 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:04:07pm

re: #182 ObserverArt

I was being more metaphoric than literal. I do not doubt what you wrote.

So, do they actually have art education in schools anymore, or is it just a free-for-all experience and not necessarily built around any actual history and things like basic color education? I really do not know. I was under the impression a lot of arts programs have been cut.

Yes, arts programs have been cut, AND there’s the kind of free-for-all experience in the early years.

187 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 2:05:08pm

re: #183 GeneJockey

re: #184 thedopefishlives

I did it so you don’t have to.

Airplane buffs is right:

*The Boeing 777 on the tarmac near Johannesburg, South Africa, on June 28, 2011.
*Another aviation enthusiast spotted the jet in Amsterdam on the foggy morning of May 5, 2013.
*One airline captain says he loves to take pictures of heavy aircraft taking off. He spotted the now-missing plane departing Istanbul on January 23, 2012.
*Ignatius Kwee, a Malaysian, says he loves to fly in the Boeing 777. He shot this photo in Perth, Australia, in August 2010.
*The Malaysia Airlines plane taxis down a runway in Rome on June 27, 2010.

This…..is CNN.

188 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 2:05:27pm

re: #185 NJDhockeyfan

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Love it. One of my all-time favorite films.

189 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:05:40pm

re: #180 b.d.

news.yahoo.com

Well, you know, by prohibiting things like homosexuality and abortion, you can pretty much make sure they never, ever happen.
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190 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:06:20pm

re: #187 b.d.

I did it so you don’t have to.

This…..is CNN.

There must not be a single missing blonde anywhere in the world.

191 b.d.  Apr 4, 2014 2:07:07pm

re: #190 GeneJockey

There must not be a single missing blonde anywhere in the world.

Hahahahaha

192 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:07:24pm

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

Love it. One of my all-time favorite films.

The final scene, with him sitting in his apartment with all the walls peeled down to the lath…

193 Eventual Carrion  Apr 4, 2014 2:08:36pm

re: #140 makeitstop

We’re going to see Primus in a small theater in Port Chester in June. Never seen ‘em before, looking forward to it.

I may catch them in May in Cleveland. It is either them or Widespread Panic. I am going to catch one of them damn it. Or maybe Chris Robinson Brotherhood in June. Maybe all 3. My buddy and I were just texting about Widespread Panic so I know he wants to hit that show.

194 ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2014 2:09:47pm

re: #189 GeneJockey

Well, you know, by prohibiting things like homosexuality and abortion, you can pretty much make sure they never, ever happen.
/////

Yeah, history proves that. Oh, wait.

195 Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2014 2:10:26pm

re: #192 GeneJockey

The final scene, with him sitting in his apartment with all the walls peeled down to the lath…

Oh, yeah. It’s one of the best films ever.

196 AntonSirius  Apr 4, 2014 2:12:51pm

re: #10 Bulworth

Governor Perry during the first GOP primary debate of 2016:

Unlike my good friend over there, Chris Christie, I refused to sign Attorney General Holder’s anti-prison rape form!!!

Audience:

Cheers

197 bratwurst  Apr 4, 2014 2:13:48pm
198 Lidane  Apr 4, 2014 2:25:09pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

The preference the GOP base has for lies over truth is really a sight to behold.

Self-inflicted propaganda has reached heights the Nazis and Soviet Communists could only dream of.

THIS. The Republicans and/or conservatives I know will breathlessly share every new link from The Blaze or Breitbart or Heritage or the Tea Party News Network about whatever the latest outrage du jour is and even if you debunk it or show how it’s wrong, they simply don’t care because the lies reinforce their beliefs.

They live in a world of confirmation bias. It’s scary.

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 2:31:52pm

re: #107 Kragar

“WE HAD A RESEARCH TEAM! THEY WENT THRU #TCOT PULLING ALL SORTS OF QUOTES!”

There was this libtard called “The Babushka” harassing the patriots and saying all the quotes were fake. Haha we just spamblocked that Commie!

200 thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2014 2:36:19pm

re: #199 Pie-onist Overlord

There was this libtard called “The Babushka” harassing the patriots and saying all the quotes were fake. Haha we just spamblocked that Commie!

Aww, poor Babushka got put in the Twitter Gulag.

Wait, what? That only applies to conservatives? DOUBLE STANDARD!

201 Lidane  Apr 4, 2014 2:36:23pm

ZOMG OPPRESSION

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 4, 2014 2:39:26pm

re: #200 thedopefishlives

Aww, poor Babushka got put in the Twitter Gulag.

Wait, what? That only applies to conservatives? DOUBLE STANDARD!

I never got a Twitter timeout, in spite of True Patriots like Prudence, Janie Johnson, SpreadButter & MikeAndy all ordering their 40,000 followers to BLOCK & REPORT THAT COMMIE!!!!!

203 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:39:53pm

re: #201 Lidane

ZOMG OPPRESSION

[Embedded content]

No big Macs in the new Russian Crimea! Still think God’s on Putin’s side, Pat?
/////

204 thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2014 2:40:15pm

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

I never got a Twitter timeout, in spite of True Patriots like Prudence, Janie Johnson, SpreadButter & MikeAndy all ordering their 40,000 followers to BLOCK & REPORT THAT COMMIE!!!!!

Perhaps because, unlike the victims of the so-called Twitter Gulag, you didn’t actually do anything wrong.

205 GeneJockey  Apr 4, 2014 2:40:43pm

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

I never got a Twitter timeout, in spite of True Patriots like Prudence, Janie Johnson, SpreadButter & MikeAndy all ordering their 40,000 followers to BLOCK & REPORT THAT COMMIE!!!!!

Maybe it’s like slander or libel - truth is an absolute defense.

206 Justanotherhuman  Apr 4, 2014 2:41:28pm

Ach.

Moody’s downgrades Ukraine rating amid unrest in country, outlook negative - @AFP
end of alert

207 Romantic Heretic  Apr 4, 2014 3:06:56pm

re: #27 FemNaziBitch

Watch: Medal Of Honor winner slaps down pro-gun advocate over arming troops on base

Well done, Colonel.

208 theheat  Apr 4, 2014 3:18:12pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

I don’t always test my code…

209 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 4, 2014 5:51:25pm

re: #43 b.d.

#Bitcoin: “When Google Met WikiLeaks” is now available for pre-order in #Bitcoin t.co

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) April 3, 2014

Oh, now that’s interesting. Assange had trouble following through finishing an earlier book with a ghostwriter doing most of the heavy lifting. In the end, after several go-rounds with the publishers, the book was published without his final approval, because deadlines, contracts, money exchanged. In short, his track record in getting books out on time is not stellar.

Now the thing about Bitcoin is that transactions are irreversible. So, if some Assange fanboi sends WikiLeaks $1,000 in Bitcoin, he can’t change his mind later and cancel the remittance and get the charges reversed. So, the Bitcoin payment method benefits Assange and WikiLeaks. Take the money and run, as it were.

On the other hand, every Bitcoin transaction is recorded in a massively shared public ledger, so if the book never makes it to print, all those donors would have record of their pointless donations, and could take legal action.

210 Hal_10000  Apr 4, 2014 6:16:10pm

To be fair to Perry, his reason for not complying with the law is that it would require a massive and expensive reorganization of the huge Texas prison system.

To be fair to everyone else, keeping 17-year-old boys from being raped in prison is the kind of thing you want to make an effort to prevent. I think even most conservatives — like the Congress and President who passed the bill — would be OK with spending a little money to do that.

211 Gus  Apr 4, 2014 6:51:11pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Intolerance in the Name of Tolerance

212 Gus  Apr 4, 2014 6:52:09pm
213 Gus  Apr 4, 2014 6:52:35pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Intolerance in the Name of Tolerance

Worthy of debate KT that’s for sure. But probably in a different venue.

214 klys  Apr 4, 2014 6:54:16pm

re: #213 Gus

Worthy of debate KT that’s for sure. But probably in a different venue.

Or, you know, here yesterday. Or today.

But whatever. It’s just the tone police, am I right?

215 kubrickon  Apr 5, 2014 6:39:57am

re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto

You guys at Little Green Footballs are standing up against prison rape? Your courage is really inspiring! I just got goosebumps all over me!

216 kubrickon  Apr 5, 2014 6:47:45am

re: #3 Bulworth

As terrible as Rick Perry speeches are I would watch a marathon of them over having to watch Warren Beatty rap again in that godawful movie.

217 Decatur Deb  Apr 5, 2014 7:13:02am

re: #215 kubrickon

You guys at Little Green Footballs are standing up against prison rape? Your courage is really inspiring! I just got goosebumps all over me!

Sort of makes us the Red Brigades, those of us in Texas.

218 John Vreeland  Apr 5, 2014 5:40:49pm

My entry from earlier


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