Lunar Eclipse Causes Panic in Strange Tribe of Throwbacks

A sign of the End Times
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The science of a lunar eclipse isn’t complicated and there’s nothing magical about it; one large object (the Earth) passes in front of a light source (the Sun), casting a shadow on another large object (Earth’s moon). You can do the same thing by putting your hand in front of a light source. See that shadow on the wall? That’s an eclipse too.

But there exists a strange tribe of throwbacks for whom seeing a shadow cast across the moon evokes primitive fears and atavistic explanations, a backward, insular, pre-rational group of strange human beings known as World Net Daily: Tens of Millions Watch Heavenly Sign.

All of the science online, the explanations and the details, couldn’t keep even elements of the secular media from asking bluntly, “Does the Bible predict the ‘blood moon’?”

Pastor Mark Biltz, whose “Blood Moons: Decoding the Imminent Heavenly Signs” is one of the hottest books in America now, believes that not only are there references for people to see, but they need to be paying attention.

“I believe that the blood moons have great historic and prophetic significance just as they did following 1948 and 1967. In the book of Joel it mentions three times about the sun and the moon going dark and in context it also mentions Divine wrath against all countries that want to divide or part the land of Israel,” he said.

“I believe the moons are like flashing red warning lights at a heavenly intersection saying to Israel as well as the nations they will be crossing heavenly red lines and if they do, they will understand as Pharaoh did on Passover night 3,500 years ago that the Creator backs up what He says.

“Like Pharaoh the leaders and pundits of today will realize when it comes to crossing the red lines of the Creator of the universe he has more than a pen and a phone in his hand.”

That last line about the pen and the phone is a swipe at President Obama, of course, one of those right wing memes that grabs hold of the tribal consciousness like an eclipse of the brain.

(h/t: Right Wing Watch.)

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1 Mattand  Apr 15, 2014 12:58:26pm
Pastor Mark Biltz, whose “Blood Moons: Decoding the Imminent Heavenly Signs” is one of the hottest books in America now, believes that not only are there references for people to see, but they need to be paying attention.
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*Sigh*

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 1:01:04pm

As Billo is inclined to say:
You can’t explain that!!11!!

3 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 1:01:13pm

re: #1 Mattand

*Sigh*

I think they misspelled his name. Should be ‘Bilkz’

4 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 1:01:39pm

There will be four ‘blood moons’ within a year and a half, plenty for the busiest wannabe prophet.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 15, 2014 1:01:45pm

This was gross ignorance in the 17th century. In the 21st? There aren’t any words to describe it.

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 1:01:51pm

John Hagee is in on the blood moon stuff as well.

“Prophecy” enthusiast, mega-church pastor and pretty good saxophonist John Hagee of San Antonio — who has been preaching an imminent Rapture for more than a generation — sees great prophetic significance in these eclipses occurring around four Jewish holy days. In his view, that must mean … something. Seriously, that’s what he says in the title of his book: Four Blood Moons: Something Is About to Change.

I don’t often agree with Hagee, but I’ll give him that one. I, too, believe that “something” will “change” between now and September of next year. Maybe even more than one something.

This is a prophecy with solid precedent. We’ve had total lunar eclipses before, and after every one of them, something changed.

And I’m contractually obligated to mention that this is the guy that thinks Hitler was a message from God to push the Jews back to Israel.

7 makeitstop  Apr 15, 2014 1:02:20pm

Goddamned cargo cult.

8 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 1:03:32pm

If a ‘blood moon’ happens over open ocean with no one there to predict doom around it, did it really happen?

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 1:04:33pm

re: #8 jaunte

If a ‘blood moon’ happens over open ocean with no one there to predict doom around it, did it really happen?

MH370!!!!
CNN will be on that angle…

10 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 1:04:47pm

Bloodmoon has the power to drive men mad.

11 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 1:06:17pm

re: #7 makeitstop

Goddamned cargo cult.

This is more like old-school Aztec “we better feed God hearts or the star demons will eat the world.”

Cargo cults just want some nummy canned goods and maybe some Sansabelt slacks.

12 klys  Apr 15, 2014 1:06:24pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

MH370!!!!
CNN will be on that angle…

It’s worth reflecting that the Boston Marathon bombing was one year ago today, and we thought then that we’d seen how far CNN could sink.

If only we’d known…

13 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 1:07:06pm

deathreaded

Lying Liars And The Way They Lie

the lying wingnut blogger who lies posts:

Obamacare is increasing health-insurance premiums at the fastest rate in decades. And, as the LA Times notes, this especially burdens the working poor.

but what does the l.a. times article actually say?

Garnaus acknowledges that insurance will be good for her health and finances in the long run but says she’s barely able to cover the increased monthly costs. With government subsidies, her monthly insurance premiums are $13.50, and co-pays to see her oncologist are $20. When lab work or a CT scan is required, it can cost up to $100 more.

you see, under obamacare she can get health insurance, which she didn’t have at all before, despite her pre-existing condition - cancer. and she can get it at the subsidized price of $13.50/mo. what the article describes is how even a $100 charge is a difficult burden for somebody surviving as marginally as she is

marginally - um, she makes $22,908 a year but has her own apartment at $1,180/mo rent, so basically her apartment eats up almost all of her income

that’s her real problem

anyway, THE WINGNUT BLOGGER DOESN’T CARE WHAT THE ARTICLE ACTUALLY SAYS, SHE JUST GOES AHEAD AND LIES

gah

14 Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2014 1:07:33pm

re: #10 jaunte

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Bloodmoon has the power to drive men mad.

A short drive.

15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 1:07:51pm

re: #10 jaunte

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Bloodmoon has the power to drive men mad.

This is what happens when goofballs drink the Bundy Ranch canal water…

16 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 1:08:27pm

I guess if they called it the ‘pumpkin moon’, which would suit the color better, it would be more difficult to freak out the gullible.

17 Political Atheist  Apr 15, 2014 1:09:44pm

Oh maaan! I slept through the end of the world…. again?!

18 Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2014 1:10:49pm

Now I’m reminded of the Cosmos episode the other night about how primitive man saw things in the sky he couldn’t explained and began to attach mystical significance to them. What science didn’t know is that primitive man didn’t die out…he just migrated to the internet.

19 aagcobb  Apr 15, 2014 1:11:55pm

re: #13 dog philosopher

deathreaded

Lying Liars And The Way They Lie

the lying wingnut blogger who lies posts:

Obamacare is increasing health-insurance premiums at the fastest rate in decades. And, as the LA Times notes, this especially burdens the working poor.

but what does the l.a. times article actually say?

Garnaus acknowledges that insurance will be good for her health and finances in the long run but says she’s barely able to cover the increased monthly costs. With government subsidies, her monthly insurance premiums are $13.50, and co-pays to see her oncologist are $20. When lab work or a CT scan is required, it can cost up to $100 more.

you see, under obamacare she can get health insurance, which she didn’t have at all before, despite her pre-existing condition - cancer. and she can get it at the subsidized price of $13.50/mo. what the article describes is how even a $100 charge is a difficult burden for somebody surviving as marginally as she is

marginally - um, she makes $22,908 a year but has her own apartment at $1,180/mo rent, so basically her apartment eats up almost all of her income

that’s her real problem

anyway, THE WINGNUT BLOGGER DOESN’T CARE WHAT THE ARTICLE ACTUALLY SAYS, SHE JUST GOES AHEAD AND LIES

gah

In the real world, the CBO projected that the ACA will cover more people for less money because insurance is costing less than they expected, not that facts are of any significance to rightwing memes.

20 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 1:12:17pm

Mentally ill people don’t get to choose what they believe, and they don’t get excited about the idea that God is going to torture chunks of the world to send oblique messages.

21 HypnoToad  Apr 15, 2014 1:12:44pm

I had several people from around my apartment complex watch through my scope and binos. I like telling them that they are simultaneously seeing light from all of the sunsets and sunrises on Earth. How dark the eclipsed Moon appears depends on how clear the atmosphere is around the limb of the Earth. I’ve seen totally eclipsed Moons ranging from a bright orange-yellow to completely invisible in a 6” telescope (1980) This one was fairly average, but still relaxing to watch. Most common comment from viewers: “it looks like a giant Mars.” (the real Mars was to the upper right)

22 Killgore Trout  Apr 15, 2014 1:14:55pm

re: #17 Political Atheist

Oh maaan! I slept through the end of the world…. again?!
[Embedded image]

Earth Died Screaming while I lay dreaming
Youtube Video

23 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 1:16:42pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

John Hagee is in on the blood moon stuff as well.

And I’m contractually obligated to mention that this is the guy that thinks Hitler was a message from God to push the Jews back to Israel.

Elementary Physical laws - how do they fucking work?

24 Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2014 1:20:07pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Now I’m reminded of the Cosmos episode the other night about how primitive man saw things in the sky he couldn’t explained and began to attach mystical significance to them. What science didn’t know is that primitive man didn’t die out…he just migrated to the internet.

Good one.

25 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 15, 2014 1:20:22pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Now I’m reminded of the Cosmos episode the other night about how primitive man saw things in the sky he couldn’t explained and began to attach mystical significance to them. What science didn’t know is that primitive man didn’t die out…he just migrated to the internet.

That’s literally true.

Behavioral modernity

Education, fancy tools, and languages aside, there’s no real way to distinguish modern humans from people who lived in caves, and some modern humans apparently work as hard as they can to keep it that way.

26 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 1:21:40pm

re: #23 GeneJockey

Elementary Physical laws - how do they fucking work?

Eventually, they’re going to smash together the wrong set of particles in the LHC, and Jesus is just going to pop into existence in the reaction chamber.

27 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 1:22:51pm

re: #26 The Ghost of a Flea

Eventually, they’re going to smash together the wrong set of particles in the LHC, and Jesus is just going to pop into existence in the reaction chamber.

So, if they can generate antiMATTER, can they generate the AntiCHRIST?

28 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 15, 2014 1:24:22pm

re: #13 dog philosopher

deathreaded

Lying Liars And The Way They Lie

Do you not understand, there are BIGGER TRUTHS out there, namely that ACA is one of the Signs of the End Times?

/

29 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 1:29:26pm

re: #27 GeneJockey

So, if they can generate antiMATTER, can they generate the AntiCHRIST?

You see, if Left Behind were actually cool, that would be where the Antichrist would come from.

(Instead, we get derpy John Birch stuff)

30 GunstarGreen  Apr 15, 2014 1:30:13pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

This was gross ignorance in the 17th century. In the 21st? There aren’t any words to describe it.

Yes there are. One of them is “idiocy”.

Sheer, unadulterated, primitive, savage idiocy. It is the year 2014, and a significant chunk of the population of the United States is composed of primitive apes that pretend to be human.

The science of planetary and lunar orbit and rotation is understood. It is incontrovertible. It is a known, 100% certain fact that the earth rotates around the sun, that the moon rotates around the earth, and that every so often on a regular and predictable basis, our particular spot on the earth happens to be rotated to be facing away from the sun at such a time as the moon happens to be orbited around the earth to be in its shadow, relative to the light cast from the sun.

And yet, despite all of this, which is basic scientific fact that is taught to elementary school children, there are a substantial number of primitive apes that live in this country and insist that this phenomenon is the work of some invisible sky-deity sending coded messages through strange atmospheric occurrences. These are the same primitive apes that insist that there are such things as witches and warlocks and demons and ghosts. They are this way because we allow them to be, and we see to it that there are no significant repercussions for their continued refusal to develop and evolve with the rest of the human race.

31 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 15, 2014 1:30:42pm

Timelapse video of last night’s blood moon

Youtube Video

32 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 1:31:24pm

My congresscritter.
Excuse me while I go make myself a stiff drink…

33 Timothy Watson  Apr 15, 2014 1:32:32pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Now I’m reminded of the Cosmos episode the other night about how primitive man saw things in the sky he couldn’t explained and began to attach mystical significance to them. What science didn’t know is that primitive man didn’t die out…he just migrated to the internet.

First thing I thought of too.

34 team_fukit  Apr 15, 2014 1:32:52pm

why can’t it be a comet that they’d all like to meet up with?

35 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 15, 2014 1:34:43pm
36 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 1:36:24pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

John Hagee is in on the blood moon stuff as well.

And I’m contractually obligated to mention that this is the guy that thinks Hitler was a message from God to push the Jews back to Israel.

“…who has been preaching an imminent Rapture for more than a generation…”

And he’s gonna keep right on preachin’ ‘bout that imminent Rapture for as long as it takes!

37 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 15, 2014 1:37:28pm

re: #30 GunstarGreen

Yes there are. One of them is “idiocy”.

Sheer, unadulterated, primitive, savage idiocy. It is the year 2014, and a significant chunk of the population of the United States is composed of primitive apes that pretend to be human.

The science of planetary and lunar orbit and rotation is understood. It is incontrovertible. It is a known, 100% certain fact that the earth rotates around the sun, that the moon rotates around the earth, and that every so often on a regular and predictable basis, our particular spot on the earth happens to be rotated to be facing away from the sun at such a time as the moon happens to be orbited around the earth to be in its shadow, relative to the light cast from the sun.

And yet, despite all of this, which is >basic scientific fact that is taught to elementary school children, there are a substantial number of primitive apes that live in this country and insist that this phenomenon is the work of some invisible sky-deity sending coded messages through strange atmospheric occurrences. These are the same primitive apes that insist that there are such things as witches and warlocks and demons and ghosts. They are this way because we allow them to be, and we see to it that there are no significant repercussions for their continued refusal to develop and evolve with the rest of the human race.

Ook. Just don’t tell them they descended from monkeys!

38 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 1:39:02pm

And now for a break from primitive lifeforms who insist that an eclipse is some kind of sign from the Divine. Consider this a form of brain bleach.

Meet Ashol-Pan, a 13-year old Mongolian eagle huntress.

This is NOT photoshopped. And it kicks ass.

Edited to include link: bbc.com

39 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 1:39:12pm

re: #36 AntonSirius

The sharpshooter fallacy-ing will continue until morale improves.

(Send more money, rubes)

40 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 1:42:18pm

re: #13 dog philosopher

deathreaded

Lying Liars And The Way They Lie

the lying wingnut blogger who lies posts:

Obamacare is increasing health-insurance premiums at the fastest rate in decades. And, as the LA Times notes, this especially burdens the working poor.

but what does the l.a. times article actually say?

Garnaus acknowledges that insurance will be good for her health and finances in the long run but says she’s barely able to cover the increased monthly costs. With government subsidies, her monthly insurance premiums are $13.50, and co-pays to see her oncologist are $20. When lab work or a CT scan is required, it can cost up to $100 more.

you see, under obamacare she can get health insurance, which she didn’t have at all before, despite her pre-existing condition - cancer. and she can get it at the subsidized price of $13.50/mo. what the article describes is how even a $100 charge is a difficult burden for somebody surviving as marginally as she is

marginally - um, she makes $22,908 a year but has her own apartment at $1,180/mo rent, so basically her apartment eats up almost all of her income

that’s her real problem

anyway, THE WINGNUT BLOGGER DOESN’T CARE WHAT THE ARTICLE ACTUALLY SAYS, SHE JUST GOES AHEAD AND LIES

gah

I doubt you can find an $1180/mo apt in Laguna Woods, from what I’ve read. She may have a Section 8 subsidy, unless she has a roommate. And there there are utilities, a phone, etc.

41 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 1:43:18pm

It’s 2014 and people are still teaching fucking creationism?

Kill me now.

42 Ian G.  Apr 15, 2014 1:43:58pm

Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly excited for the “blood moon” just because it’s a relatively common occurrence? I feel like I’ve seen many a lunar eclipse in my life. Hell, IIRC, there was one the night the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004 which turned the moon red, which, I gotta admit, was a bit eerie.

43 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 1:44:21pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

And now for a break from primitive lifeforms who insist that an eclipse is some kind of sign from the Divine. Consider this a form of brain bleach.

Meet Ashol-Pan, a 13-year old Mongolian eagle huntress.

This is NOT photoshopped. And it kicks ass.

Edited to include link: bbc.com

I was gonna post that too! One MUST click through to see the rest of the photos!

44 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 1:44:26pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

And now for a break from primitive lifeforms who insist that an eclipse is some kind of sign from the Divine. Consider this a form of brain bleach.

Meet Ashol-Pan, a 13-year old Mongolian eagle huntress.

This is NOT photoshopped. And it kicks ass.

Edited to include link: bbc.com

So, what you’re saying is that Mongols high up in the mountains are more accepting of feminism than Republicans.

45 klys  Apr 15, 2014 1:45:34pm

re: #42 Ian G.

Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly excited for the “blood moon” just because it’s a relatively common occurrence? I feel like I’ve seen many a lunar eclipse in my life. Hell, IIRC, there was one the night the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004 which turned the moon red, which, I gotta admit, was a bit eerie.

I enjoyed going out and seeing it, mostly as a chance to pause and reconnect with some of the wonder of science.

46 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 1:45:44pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

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Mediaite says it was a fake.

47 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 1:46:03pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

I was gonna post that too! One MUST click through to see the rest of the photos!

Impressive photos of an impressive subject. The one I used in the posting is, at least if I were charge of such things, an award-winner. It’s easily one of the greatest photographs I’ve ever seen.

48 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 1:46:38pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

(UPDATE): The account that was associated with Aksyonov has been revealed to be a fake Twitter account.
— -

49 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 1:46:41pm

re: #44 AntonSirius

So, what you’re saying is that Mongols high up in the mountains are more accepting of feminism than Republicans.

Yeah, most likely.

50 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 1:47:34pm

The wore: #40 Justanotherhuman

I doubt you can find an $1180/mo apt in Laguna Woods, from what I’ve read. She may have a Section 8 subsidy, unless she has a roommate. And there there are utilities, a phone, etc.

That article is actually an Obamacare success story, because she now has insurance that can’t be taken away. Yes, it is an expense, but there’s no other coverage for her. Yes, it sucks that she can hardly afford the copay, but without the insurance, she couldn’t afford ANY OF IT - treatment, followups, diagnostic tests, etc.

The crazy thing is, the wingnut trying to use her as an Obamacare failure doesn’t think she should even have this much.

51 bratwurst  Apr 15, 2014 1:47:51pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mediaite says it was a fake.

[Embedded content]

That is good to know…otherwise he would be right in line for an AM radio show in this country!

52 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 1:48:53pm

re: #48 blueraven

(UPDATE): The account that was associated with Aksyonov has been revealed to be a fake Twitter account.
— -

Imagine the disappointment of the Wingnuts, who thought they’d found a kindred spirit.

53 darthstar  Apr 15, 2014 1:52:34pm

re: #48 blueraven

(UPDATE): The account that was associated with Aksyonov has been revealed to be a fake Twitter account.
— -

The account was fake, but the racism was real.

54 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 15, 2014 1:52:58pm

But is a lunar eclipse even constitutional?

55 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 1:55:20pm

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

Impressive photos of an impressive subject. The one I used in the posting is, at least if I were charge of such things, an award-winner. It’s easily one of the greatest photographs I’ve ever seen.

That photo makes me want to go out and record a Rush-esque rock album, so I can use it as the artwork on the gatefold LP sleeve

56 steve_davis  Apr 15, 2014 1:55:49pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

And now for a break from primitive lifeforms who insist that an eclipse is some kind of sign from the Divine. Consider this a form of brain bleach.

Meet Ashol-Pan, a 13-year old Mongolian eagle huntress.

This is NOT photoshopped. And it kicks ass.

Edited to include link: bbc.com

My understanding is she finds the whole “Mongolian” thing confining and wholly an accident of politics. She prefers to be known as Sky Commander Hutchinson.

57 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 1:58:05pm

Further to last post, their argument seems to be this:

Obamacare is a failure, because this woman’s healthcare isn’t free.

BUT there should be no subsidies, so she should bear the full cost of the insurance.

AND there should be no expanded Medicaid, so she wouldn’t be eligible for that, either.

EDIT: AND there should be no mandates on insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions, so she couldn’t have insurance anyway.

But we’re willing to give her nonrefundable tax credits on her Federal Income Tax to buy the insurance no company will sell her, but since her income is so low she probably has no Federal Income Tax liability, the credits amount to nothing.

58 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 1:58:50pm

Kramatorsk: Interior Ministry repels Russian attack on airfield, Defense Ministry fends off incursion on armed forces unit

11:23 p.m. Ukraine’s Defense Ministry reported that an attack by “radically inclined, armed (Kremlin-backed) people who had all the markings of being diversionary-terrorist groups to forcibly take over a military unit in the city of Kramatorsk (Donetsk Oblast)” was repelled on April 15.

Ukraine’s armed forces body stated that to “fend off the attack warning shots were fired. To secure the perimeter military personnel and armed forces technical equipment (was used),” the Defense Ministry said.

Kramatorsk airfield

An undisclosed number of Kremlin-backed insurgents were taken prisoner at the Kramatorsk airfield on April 15 when Ukrainian forces re-took the strategic object, which lies in between the northern Donetsk Oblast cities of Slovyansk and Kramatorsk, said Ukrainian Interior Ministry advisor Stanislav Rechynsky, cited by local news outlet Ukrainska Pravda.

He said special care was taken in the military planning of the operation to overt the deaths of Ukrainians who have sided with the Russians “because a part of them are also are own people.”

Rechynsky also said that during forces of the (Ukrainian) Anti-Terrorist Center, Omega special unit of the Interior Ministry and Alpha Group of the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine) freed the Kramatorsk airfield. Moreover with casualties (on both sides).”

Omega played a significant role in the operation, stated Rechynsky.

He also added that in Slovyansk, a Russian-occupied city some 20 kilometers from Kramatorsk, “no (Ukrainian) armor (like tanks and armored personnel carriers), no people (soldiers) are present although there are many panicky reports in the media about that. -Mark Rachkevych

59 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 2:00:54pm

re: #56 steve_davis

My understanding is she finds the whole “Mongolian” thing confining and wholly an accident of politics. She prefers to be known as Sky Commander Hutchinson.

Actually, I was proceeding under the assumption that Ashol-Pan translates to “Sky Commander”.

60 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 2:01:17pm

re: #50 GeneJockey

The wo

That article is actually an Obamacare success story, because she now has insurance that can’t be taken away. Yes, it is an expense, but there’s no other coverage for her. Yes, it sucks that she can hardly afford the copay, but without the insurance, she couldn’t afford ANY OF IT - treatment, followups, diagnostic tests, etc.

The crazy thing is, the wingnut trying to use her as an Obamacare failure doesn’t think she should even have this much.

Yes, of course it is. For her to be able to get all that coverage for $15/mo is amazing. She actually would be better off with less income, since Medicaid would kick in and pay for everything, but that would be a hit on where she lives, etc.

We forget that Medicare has the same kinds of restrictions as the ACA. We often have co-pays that, in my case anyway, break my bank acct. I can’t afford supplemental ins. and I’m lucky in that my grandson lives with me and is working since my income is half of hers and the rent is the same % of income, about half. I don’t complain, though, until the drs start ordering tests which are entirely unnecessary, such as the EKG I’m stuck with a large co-pay for. Generally, at 73 I’m in good health—well, except for the high sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure. I’m high as hell and it’s not from drugs. : )

61 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 2:01:48pm

re: #58 blueraven

>Kramatorsk: Interior Ministry repels Russian attack on airfield, Defense Ministry fends off incursion on armed forces unit

at this point it looks to me like we are already well into the opening stages of a russia-ukraine war

62 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 15, 2014 2:04:32pm

Sometimes an eclipse is the least of your problems…
Ah Shit!

RBS

63 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 2:08:00pm

re: #62 RealityBasedSteve

Sometimes an eclipse is the least of your problems…
Ah Shit!

RBS

I saw that, and Oliver Stone’s JFK popped into my head - “Back, and to the left.”

64 darthstar  Apr 15, 2014 2:08:02pm

re: #62 RealityBasedSteve

Sometimes an eclipse is the least of your problems…
Ah Shit!

RBS

Awesome.

65 Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2014 2:08:23pm

re: #61 dog philosopher

at this point it looks to me like we are already well into the opening stages of a russia-ukraine war

Proxy war right now, but Russia will crank it into a full-blown war soon, under the excuse of “protecting” their patsies.

66 darthstar  Apr 15, 2014 2:09:49pm

re: #62 RealityBasedSteve

Sometimes an eclipse is the least of your problems…
Ah Shit!

RBS

Stolen and tweeted.

67 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 2:11:27pm

re: #62 RealityBasedSteve

Sometimes an eclipse is the least of your problems…
Ah Shit!

RBS

West, Texas Is Getting A New Fertilizer Plant

68 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:11:36pm
69 Ming  Apr 15, 2014 2:14:41pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Now I’m reminded of the Cosmos episode the other night about how primitive man saw things in the sky he couldn’t explained and began to attach mystical significance to them. What science didn’t know is that primitive man didn’t die out…he just migrated to the internet.

Richard Dawkins talks about how people tend to attribute “agency” to objects, e.g. a toddler shown two shadows moving at the same speed, one shadow bigger than the other, may believe that the big shadow is “chasing” the small shadow.

If a person really isn’t interested in science, I can only imagine what creative “agencies” (intents, purposes) he or she may attribute to the Moon’s changing color. Especially to a color with a high R in its RGB. Maybe Baal is in a bad mood. Better sacrifice an infant to appease Him… quick.

70 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:15:40pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

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Stopped clock, etc.

We frequently end up investing more hours than I would like trying to figure out what we owe and putting in our best-faith effort to get it right. I finally prevailed and we hired an accountant this year to do them. I still reviewed things. I’m still not sure.

Oh well.

71 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 2:16:56pm

re: #60 Justanotherhuman

Yes, of course it is. For her to be able to get all that coverage for $15/mo is amazing. She actually would be better off with less income, since Medicaid would kick in and pay for everything, but that would be a hit on where she lives, etc.

We forget that Medicare has the same kinds of restrictions as the ACA. We often have co-pays that, in my case anyway, break my bank acct. I can’t afford supplemental ins. and I’m lucky in that my grandson lives with me and is working since my income is half of hers and the rent is the same % of income, about half. I don’t complain, though, until the drs start ordering tests which are entirely unnecessary, such as the EKG I’m stuck with a large co-pay for. Generally, at 73 I’m in good health—well, except for the high sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure. I’m high as hell and it’s not from drugs. : )

And just think - that nice man, Ronald Reagan, wanted to make sure you were never burdened by having the Government help you with your healthcare. Think how much more free you’d be if he’d prevailed!
///////

Seriously, I’ve heard Wingnuts who I KNOW believe Medicare should be abolished complaining about Obama ‘cutting $500 Billion from Medicare!’ How much gall does it take to bitch about cuts in a program you want to ELIMINATE?

72 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 15, 2014 2:18:13pm
73 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 2:18:59pm

re: #70 klys

Stopped clock, etc.

We frequently end up investing more hours than I would like trying to figure out what we owe and putting in our best-faith effort to get it right. I finally prevailed and we hired an accountant this year to do them. I still reviewed things. I’m still not sure.

Oh well.

Yes, but are you within the 95% confidence interval?

74 thedopefishlives  Apr 15, 2014 2:18:59pm

Evening Lizardim.

75 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:19:30pm

re: #70 klys

Stopped clock, etc.

We frequently end up investing more hours than I would like trying to figure out what we owe and putting in our best-faith effort to get it right. I finally prevailed and we hired an accountant this year to do them. I still reviewed things. I’m still not sure.

Oh well.

I think the solution will be political. Writing the same letter to the IRS every year is just being a jerk, especially when you’re one of the most politically privileged assholes in the world. (Not you, Donald Rumsfeld). /lol

76 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 15, 2014 2:21:47pm
77 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:23:03pm

re: #73 GeneJockey

Yes, but are you within the 95% confidence interval?

Hopefully.

We mostly had things understood and then got switched to an HSA-eligible insurance plan for 9 months of the year last year but did the 12 months contribution so had to get that refunded and …yeah.

re: #75 wrenchwench

I think the solution will be political. Writing the same letter to the IRS every year is just being a jerk, especially when you’re one of the most politically privileged assholes in the world. (Not you, Donald Rumsfeld). /lol

I do like to think I’m less of an ass than Donald Rumsfeld. :)

78 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 2:28:46pm

Women being killed all over. Why didn’t police respond right away to this woman’s call, esp since a gun was involved? If she was on a cell phone, why didn’t she just leave? We’ll never know.

Denver woman spent 13 minutes on 911 call before being shot to death

Read more: Denver woman spent 13 minutes on 911 call before being shot to death - The Denver Post denverpost.com

I doubt pot played any role in this. And these family dynamics aren’t always what they appear to be, whether the neighbors think they are “OK” or not.

79 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:31:47pm

re: #77 klys

I do like to think I’m less of an ass than Donald Rumsfeld. :)

Is that a very high bar or a very low bar? Are you getting under the bar or over it?

/Moar coffee, then on to the state taxes. I did the Feds last night, the state ones are easy after that, but much easier with the door locked than with the damn customers coming in to entertain me.

80 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 15, 2014 2:32:28pm

re: #62 RealityBasedSteve

I once read (but I’ll be damned if I can remember where or by whom) a sci-fi story about an astronaut alone on a research station on the dark side of the moon. One day, he loses all contact with Mission Control. He soon realizes that there’s nothing wrong with his broadcast equipment. He gets in his lunar vehicle and drives where he can see the earth over the horizon. To his horror, he can see flashes popping all over the globe. He knows that for whatever reason, a global nuclear war has happened, and he will never be returning home, because there’s no more home to return to.

He eventually gets the idea of trying to preserve something of human history, so in desperation he turns on his transmitter and points it towards the distant stars. He begins broadcasting every fact he can think of. Every bit of trivia, every scientific fact he knows. The last thing he broadcasts before his oxygen runs out is a knock-knock joke.

81 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 2:33:41pm

fish

82 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:33:54pm

Wait. I have to post this so I can close the tab.

83 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:34:39pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

Wait. I have to post this so I can close the tab.

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And how many tabs do you keep open at a time?

/shouldn’t talk, there’s probably a good 100+ open on my machine…

84 Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2014 2:37:29pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

New wallpaper.

85 thedopefishlives  Apr 15, 2014 2:38:29pm

re: #83 klys

And how many tabs do you keep open at a time?

/shouldn’t talk, there’s probably a good 100+ open on my machine…

I like to Wikiwalk. A lot.

86 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 2:39:08pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

Is that a very high bar or a very low bar? Are you getting under the bar or over it?

/Moar coffee, then on to the state taxes. I did the Feds last night, the state ones are easy after that, but much easier with the door locked than with the damn customers coming in to entertain me.

I do my grandson’s on TurboTax, and it’s free for both Fed and State (NC), up to $58K income which covers an awful lot of people. I never could figure out why anyone would go to a tax service and pay to have it done.

Easiest thing in the world, when I think about the paper & pen returns I did for myself and others over the years. : )

87 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 2:39:15pm

re: #83 klys

And how many tabs do you keep open at a time?

/shouldn’t talk, there’s probably a good 100+ open on my machine…

Remember the good old days, when opening a tab meant you were about to imbibe a refreshing solution of mild carcinogen?

88 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 2:39:22pm

Ashol-Pan isn’t the only eagle huntress; here’s some photos of Makpal Abdrazakova of Kazakhstan.

Link here: blogs.reuters.com

89 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 2:40:13pm

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Ashol-Pan isn’t the only eagle huntress; here’s some photos of Makpal Abdrazakova of Kazakhstan.

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Never fly a bird that can throw you off the mountain.
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90 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 15, 2014 2:41:52pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

I do my grandson’s on TurboTax, and it’s free for both Fed and State (NC), up to $58K income which covers an awful lot of people. I never could figure out why anyone would go to a tax service and pay to have it done.

Easiest thing in the world, when I think about the paper & pen returns I did for myself and others over the years. : )

I did mine the day I got my last tax form in. Figured out that I owed a whopping 100 bucks extra, couldn’t find anything else (legal) to reduce it, so I saved the forms and pushed the “FILE” button Sunday. (Of course, if they owed me even a buck, it would have been filed right then.

RBS

91 thedopefishlives  Apr 15, 2014 2:42:25pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

I do my grandson’s on TurboTax, and it’s free for both Fed and State (NC), up to $58K income which covers an awful lot of people. I never could figure out why anyone would go to a tax service and pay to have it done.

Easiest thing in the world, when I think about the paper & pen returns I did for myself and others over the years. : )

I pay $50 or so for a do-it-yourself tax program. Either TurboTax or H&R Block, whichever one offers me the best deal. Since I don’t do anything terribly complicated with my finances, my taxes are pretty straightforward and the tool covers it pretty well. I’ve had mine done since February and have had my refund in hand. I realize I’m giving the government an interest-free loan from my income, but unlike the wingnuts who herp and derp all day long, I don’t actually mind.

92 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 2:42:34pm

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Ashol-Pan isn’t the only eagle huntress; here’s some photos of Makpal Abdrazakova of Kazakhstan.

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What does that mean? They hunt eagles? Eagle “huntress” is eagle hunter.

So, it’s probably misleading.

93 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:43:38pm

re: #83 klys

And how many tabs do you keep open at a time?

/shouldn’t talk, there’s probably a good 100+ open on my machine…

No more than will fit across the tab bar at the top. At eleven they get squished off to the side. I don’t know how I would deal with 100.

94 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:43:45pm

re: #87 GeneJockey

Remember the good old days, when opening a tab meant you were about to imbibe a refreshing solution of mild carcinogen?

You mean like today’s 3rd can of Diet Mountain Dew?

The lecture involves a lot of sums.

95 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:44:07pm

re: #93 wrenchwench

No more than will fit across the tab bar at the top. At eleven they get squished off to the side. I don’t know how I would deal with 100.

Multiple windows.

96 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 2:44:25pm


Casual weed smoking linked
to brain abnormalities, study finds

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, researchers have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes — finding that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures.

for the first time ever

only took 80 years

and who’s to say any changes in brain structure aren’t an improvement?

97 kirkspencer  Apr 15, 2014 2:44:50pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

Dear Mr. Rumsfeld, the solution is actually easy.

Give all your money to the poor and follow Christ.

Oh, wait, you don’t want to live in poverty, and besides you don’t think that’s really what He meant. OK, try this.

The majority of the confusion of taxes is due to various loopholes created either to be ‘fair’ or to encourage or discourage certain behavior. To demonstrate your unwillingness to tolerate such complexity, submit a 1040 and claim nothing but standard deductions. Submit no schedules beyond those required for certain types of income such as investments; even there use the minimum without seeking loopholes.

I am aware that others will scoff at you for ‘overpaying’ taxes. On the other hand you will be content that you not only avoided not paying anything you might have owed but also completed your returns in an amazingly short period of time.

If, however, you wish to squeeze every penny you can from what you pay the government, using every possible loophole and opportunity available, then quit complaining about the complexity.

It’s really that simple: You can have ‘fair’ or you can have ‘easy’.

98 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:46:32pm

re: #91 thedopefishlives

I pay $50 or so for a do-it-yourself tax program. Either TurboTax or H&R Block, whichever one offers me the best deal. Since I don’t do anything terribly complicated with my finances, my taxes are pretty straightforward and the tool covers it pretty well. I’ve had mine done since February and have had my refund in hand. I realize I’m giving the government an interest-free loan from my income, but unlike the wingnuts who herp and derp all day long, I don’t actually mind.

Because bonuses can form a substantial portion of income in software development here in Silicon Valley, it is reasonably difficult to predict our annual income from year to year.

This year was a refund, hooray! But I don’t mind the loan because if it goes the other way, sometimes the only way we have avoided penalties was the amount already paid.

99 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:48:37pm

re: #95 klys

Multiple windows.

Eeek!

Is this a sign of age? Of having used onto Windows XP too long? My ‘puter used to get real slow with 5 tabs open.

If I can’t finish with what’s open in a reasonable amount of time, I bookmark it for later. Then I never get around to it.

By the way, I’m waiting for a guy who is going to ‘call me right back’, so I’m still not finishing my taxes.

100 Political Atheist  Apr 15, 2014 2:49:21pm

*gasp* LOL *whooping inhale*

Shoe Truthers’ Wonder If Hillary Staged Shoe Throwing Incident

Shuthers?

101 klys  Apr 15, 2014 2:49:41pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Eeek!

Is this a sign of age? Of having used onto Windows XP too long? My ‘puter used to get real slow with 5 tabs open.

If I can’t finish with what’s open in a reasonable amount of time, I bookmark it for later. Then I never get around to it.

By the way, I’m waiting for a guy who is going to ‘call me right back’, so I’m still not finishing my taxes.

I am probably on the extreme side of keeping tabs open. I should not be used as a benchmark.

Tabs are a huge improvement over when I used to have 20 windows open at a time.

102 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 2:52:31pm

re: #87 GeneJockey

Remember the good old days, when opening a tab meant you were about to imbibe a refreshing solution of mild carcinogen?

i take it you aren’t referring here to e.g. a ‘tab of windowpane’

103 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 2:52:32pm

re: #96 dog philosopher


Casual weed smoking linked
to brain abnormalities, study finds

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, researchers have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes — finding that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures.

for the first time ever

only took 80 years

and who’s to say any changes in brain structure aren’t an improvement?

Really? 20 people?
ahem

104 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 2:53:25pm

re: #96 dog philosopher


Casual weed smoking linked
to brain abnormalities, study finds

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, researchers have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes — finding that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures.

for the first time ever

only took 80 years

and who’s to say any changes in brain structure aren’t an improvement?

They’re not an improvement if they mimic the same changes as schizophrenia. But this wasn’t a definitive study and hasn’t been replicated, has it?

While I think pot is relatively harmless if not used to excess, everything you put into your body is going to have an effect on it, whether it’s food, liquids, drugs of all sorts.

It should be studied in various ages, lengths of use, etc.

105 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 2:57:13pm

re: #103 blueraven

Really? 20 people?
ahem

Hey, it was 40 people! 20 were the control group!

106 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 2:58:00pm

re: #103 blueraven

re: #104 Justanotherhuman

what really makes it amusing is that it is the leading banner headline on the fox news site just right now…

107 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 3:00:01pm

Well, damn.

ow.ly

108 thedopefishlives  Apr 15, 2014 3:00:36pm

re: #106 dog philosopher

what really makes it amusing is that it is the leading banner headline on the fox news site just right now…

Must’ve run out of things to compare to Benghazi. For now.

109 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 3:01:46pm
110 kirkspencer  Apr 15, 2014 3:05:57pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Hey, it was 40 people! 20 were the control group!

A “well-matched” control group at that.

I think I want to read the Journal of Neuroscience when it comes out, as I find myself lacking trust in anything Fox publishes. It may actually be a legit pilot study, because Dr. Breiter appears to have a decent rep in the neuroscience field. It may also actually be a wee bit different than what Fox claims.

111 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 3:06:55pm

re: #104 Justanotherhuman

They’re not an improvement if they mimic the same changes as schizophrenia. But this wasn’t a definitive study and hasn’t been replicated, has it?

While I think pot is relatively harmless if not used to excess, everything you put into your body is going to have an effect on it, whether it’s food, liquids, drugs of all sorts.

It should be studied in various ages, lengths of use, etc.

Sure. Let the studies abound. I doubt there is any more harm than many totally legal substances, but yes it would be a good thing to have more studies.
The problem is, it is very difficult to get approval for human clinical trials on a drug that is classified as a schedule 1; defined as having no medical benefits, no safe use and a high potential for abuse.

112 Justanotherhuman  Apr 15, 2014 3:07:04pm

Ukraine: Military secures airport from attack

bigstory.ap.org

KRAMATORSK, Ukraine (AP) — In the first Ukrainian military action against a pro-Russian uprising in the east, government forces said they repelled an attack Tuesday by about 30 gunmen at a small airport.

“The clash came hours after Ukraine’s acting president, Oleksandr Turchynov, had announced an “anti-terrorist operation” against the armed, pro-Russian insurgents who had seized control of numerous buildings in at least nine cities in Ukraine’s restive east.

(snip)

“There were conflicting reports of casualties. Yury Zhadobin, coordinator of a pro-Russian defense force, said two people were slightly injured and were taken to a hospital. Russian media, without sourcing, claimed anywhere from four to 11 casualties at the airport. Ukraine’s government said there were no casualties and added that Ukrainian forces took an unspecified number of militiamen prisoner.” More

113 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 3:10:32pm

re: #104 Justanotherhuman

They’re not an improvement if they mimic the same changes as schizophrenia

that’s what you say, but my close friend the Blue Dragon disagrees, and he is much bigger and bluer than you

114 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 3:11:56pm
115 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 15, 2014 3:14:31pm

Obama Derangement Continues…

WorldNetDaily manages to fit criticism of President Obama into nearly everything it publishes, including its story on Monday’s lunar eclipse.

Citing the president’s comments from January — “I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone” — about using executive orders and executive actions in the face of congressional obstruction, right-wing pastor Mark Biltz told WND today that the “blood moon” is a divine warning to Obama that God has “more than a pen and a phone in his hand.”

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

So, let me see if I’ve got this right, ‘cuz I’m not too bright some times. A lunar eclipse, which happens on a regular basis, and I’m sure that any reference book on astronomy would have listed 20+ years ago was sent as a warning to the President.

What if it were a member of the Tea Party who was in the Oval Office right now, would the eclipse have been cancelled, or would it be like ‘call forwarding’ and then it would apply to somebody else?

Really, help me out with this, and if WND would be so kind as to tell me who the eclipses are targeted for the rest of the century.

Thanks…

RBS

116 Ryan King  Apr 15, 2014 3:19:02pm

Does this mean the moon is actually a port cheddar?

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 3:20:39pm

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

One of my nieces did two tours with the Peace Corps in Kazakhstan. She loves seeing these articles showing up in the media now.

118 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 3:23:12pm

Alright, alright.
I confess.
I bathed the moon in ewok blood.
Get off my back.

119 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 15, 2014 3:25:01pm

re: #118 Varek Raith

Alright, alright.
I confess.
I bathed the moon in ewok blood.
Get off my back.

You should have used Jar-Jar Binks… nobody would have objected. Ewoks are cute.

RBS

120 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 3:26:21pm

Ukrainian military operation targets pro-Russian separatists

Ukraine’s military launched its first, formal military action Tuesday against pro-Russian separatists, with troops retaking an airport in the eastern Donetsk region after a reported clash with armed gunmen.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 3:27:43pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

I do my grandson’s on TurboTax, and it’s free for both Fed and State (NC), up to $58K income which covers an awful lot of people. I never could figure out why anyone would go to a tax service and pay to have it done.

Easiest thing in the world, when I think about the paper & pen returns I did for myself and others over the years. : )

TurboTax Maker Linked To Fight Against ‘Return-Free’ Tax System

I used TurboTax for many many years, but have been using Second Story’s TaxAct for a few years now since TurboTax screwed me over for months because of a defect in the software CD and it’s the only time in my life I had to file for an extension to file. TaxAct’s Deluxe and premium packages are much less expensive than TurboTax, and there is a free version available for most people.

122 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 3:29:25pm

So, when I was five years old, I saw this film on TV one fine Saturday afternoon, and I was hooked on sci-fi ever since.

Youtube Video

123 Ming  Apr 15, 2014 3:35:17pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

This may be the first time I agree with Donald Rumsfeld about anything.

124 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 3:39:04pm

re: #80 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I once read (but I’ll be damned if I can remember where or by whom) a sci-fi story about an astronaut alone on a research station on the dark side of the moon. One day, he loses all contact with Mission Control. He soon realizes that there’s nothing wrong with his broadcast equipment. He gets in his lunar vehicle and drives where he can see the earth over the horizon. To his horror, he can see flashes popping all over the globe. He knows that for whatever reason, a global nuclear war has happened, and he will never be returning home, because there’s no more home to return to.

He eventually gets the idea of trying to preserve something of human history, so in desperation he turns on his transmitter and points it towards the distant stars. He begins broadcasting every fact he can think of. Every bit of trivia, every scientific fact he knows. The last thing he broadcasts before his oxygen runs out is a knock-knock joke.

Then there’s James Hogan’s Inherit the Stars, which is a brilliant piece of “hard” sci-fi whimsy and which is also about humanity destroying its home planet and the survivors having to watch it happen from the moon.

125 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 3:39:58pm

Josh Romney being dumb about taxes:
twitter.com

126 darthstar  Apr 15, 2014 3:44:34pm

re: #125 jaunte

Josh Romney being dumb about taxes:
twitter.com

Josh Romney being a dick about taxes. Like his daddy actually has to mail his taxes in person. Give me a fuckin’ break.

127 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 3:45:49pm

re: #126 darthstar

“Dad’s first visit to a Post Office.”

128 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 15, 2014 3:46:59pm

At the motel in memphis, waiting for my Pizza to show up. Yea Life.

RBS

129 EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2014 3:49:03pm

re: #126 darthstar

Josh Romney being a dick about taxes. Like his daddy actually has to mail his taxes in person. Give me a fuckin’ break.

Anything to distract from the simple fact that much of the unreasonable complexity of the tax code is there to permit Romney et al. to legally pay taxes at much lower rates than people who work for a living.

130 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 3:50:49pm

re: #125 jaunte

Josh Romney being dumb about taxes:
twitter.com

God forbid he’d have to mingle with the peasants.

131 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 3:51:21pm

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

So, when I was five years old, I saw this film on TV one fine Saturday afternoon, and I was hooked on sci-fi ever since.

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No wonder Buckaroo Banzai blew your mind the first time you saw it

132 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 3:51:39pm

re: #129 EPR-radar

Anything to distract from the simple fact that much of the unreasonable complexity of the tax code is there to permit Romney et al. to legally pay taxes at much lower rates than people who work for a living.

^^THIS^^

133 darthstar  Apr 15, 2014 3:53:29pm
134 Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2014 3:53:59pm

re: #128 RealityBasedSteve

At the motel in memphis, waiting for my Pizza to show up. Yea Life.

RBS

Youtube Video

135 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 3:56:36pm

re: #133 darthstar

[Embedded content]

We used to drive our tax return to the post office at the last minute. Then we started E-filing. The first year, my wife INSISTED we drive to the post office and wait in line to drop off nothing. It was a tradition!

136 darthstar  Apr 15, 2014 3:59:06pm

re: #135 GeneJockey

We used to drive our tax return to the post office at the last minute. Then we started E-filing. The first year, my wife INSISTED we drive to the post office and wait in line to drop off nothing. It was a tradition!

I’m e-filing mine tonight.

137 Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2014 4:01:55pm

re: #131 AntonSirius

No wonder Buckaroo Banzai blew your mind the first time you saw it

Even though the 1953 version isn’t exactly faithful (to put it mildly) it’s still a damned good sci-fi film. For its era, the visual effects are remarkable, and the use of sound - particularly the sounds of the Martian war machines - still works to build suspense.

And those Martian war machines are still one of the coolest designs ever.

Nice planet. We’ll take it.

138 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:03:29pm
139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 4:04:49pm

re: #136 darthstar

I’m e-filing mine tonight.

I e-filed federal and Kentucky on Saturday. Drove into town yesterday to mail an Illinois return … employer reorganized the company and accidentally withheld two weeks of Illinois taxes instead of Kentucky. A stinking $14 refund that wasn’t worth the hour it took to find the forms on the internet, fill them out (trust me, Illinois state tax returns for non-residents are a nightmare) and then the hour round-trip (and $4 in gasoline, 90 cents in postage because Illinois demands a copy of federal and Kentucky state returns attached) to the post office, but I just know that I’d get hit with a stupid failure to file penalty if I didn’t.

I hate tax returns. Just tell me what I owe and go away.

140 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 4:05:18pm

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

And those Martian war machines are still one of the coolest designs ever

i want an android tablet that looks like that

141 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 4:07:06pm

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

Even though the 1953 version isn’t exactly faithful (to put it mildly) it’s still a damned good sci-fi film. For its era, the visual effects are remarkable, and the use of sound - particularly the sounds of the Martian war machines - still works to build suspense.

And those Martian war machines are still one of the coolest designs ever.

Nice planet. We’ll take it.

Tripods or go home.
:P

142 BongCrodny  Apr 15, 2014 4:08:27pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

If only:

“Iraq is so complex and complicated, that I know that I cannot have any confidence that I know what is being requested, and therefore I cannot and do not know, whether or not the war effort will be successful.”

If Rumsfeld had written that in 2003 we might have salvaged the better part of that whole wasted fucking decade.

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 4:09:42pm

heh…

144 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:11:04pm

Dan Patrick to Julian Castro: “Lets leave the politics out of this.”

145 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:11:49pm

Watch live: Julián Castro, Dan Patrick debate
blog.chron.com

146 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:13:34pm
147 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:13:59pm

re: #138 jaunte

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Wow, Castro just took Patrick to the woodshed. Awesome.

148 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 4:16:02pm
149 JustMark  Apr 15, 2014 4:16:22pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Very, very freakin’ cool!

150 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:17:50pm

Dan Patrick “Washington has put us in this box.”
(immigration)

151 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 15, 2014 4:17:52pm

re: #128 RealityBasedSteve

At the motel in memphis, waiting for my Pizza to show up. Yea Life.

RBS

Let us know if Elvis is the delivery guy.

152 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:18:16pm

re: #144 jaunte

Dan Patrick to Julian Castro: “Lets leave the politics out of this.”

Patrick is trying to sound reasonable, but he’s still branding kids that would be affected by the DREAM Act as “others” and not American.

153 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 4:20:00pm
154 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:20:13pm

“…hardened criminals crossing the border…”

155 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:21:00pm

Cut to old white guys clapping, and looking around wondering why no one else is clapping with them.

156 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:22:48pm

Julian Castro illustrating how Patrick distorted crime statistics as Patrick tried to talk over him.

158 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:27:39pm
159 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:28:00pm

Patrick just said that adding more citizens via DREAM devalues citizenship.

Because citizenship is a zero-sum game, apparently.

Wow.

160 Ming  Apr 15, 2014 4:28:35pm

re: #126 darthstar

Josh Romney being a dick about taxes. Like his daddy actually has to mail his taxes in person. Give me a fuckin’ break.

It still bothers me that for the 2012 campaign, Mitt Romney released only two years of his tax returns. Not a good precedent for future presidential campaigns.

I continue to suspect that he lied to people in his personal life about his “tithing”, or lack thereof, to the Mormon Church. In regard to “Every year, I gave 10% of my income to the Church,” the word “income” can be interpreted in many different ways.

161 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:28:43pm
162 palomino  Apr 15, 2014 4:29:43pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

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What a douchebag. Especially considering his own penchant for adventurism into the unknown (i.e., invading Iraq with no fucking clue what came next.)

Best part is where he says, “I’m old, in my 80’s and don’t have many years left.” Is that an “unknown known” or a “known unknown”?

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 4:30:41pm

re: #160 Ming

It still bothers me that for the 2012 campaign, Mitt Romney released only two years of his tax returns. Not a good precedent for future presidential campaigns.

I continue to suspect that he lied to people in his personal life about his “tithing”, or lack thereof, to the Mormon Church. Of course, in regard to “Every year, I gave 10% of my income to the Church,” the word “income” can be interpreted in many different ways.

Bet he amended those returns right after he lost.

164 klys  Apr 15, 2014 4:31:06pm

re: #160 Ming

I suspect he was accurate in his tithing. The Mormon church takes that *very* seriously.

I suspect he had years where his tax rate worked out to be below 10% and that’s what he didn’t want to reveal. The two years he released? He knew he was going to have to release, so things were deliberately tweaked to have him paying more.

165 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:32:55pm

Dan Patrick is bringing out the terrorist border threat now.

166 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:33:47pm
167 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:34:04pm

re: #165 jaunte

Dan Patrick is bringing out the terrorist border threat now.

Dirty bombs!

But he’s not the one demogoguing in this debate, remember.

168 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:37:20pm

“As you know, we have anchor babies in this country…”

169 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 4:37:25pm

Anchor Babies!!

170 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:37:47pm

re: #167 AntonSirius

He’s completely forgotten about the Canadian border.

171 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 4:37:58pm

re: #165 jaunte

Dan Patrick is bringing out the terrorist border threat now.

Good grief. Terrorists would have done something already if that were the case methinks.

172 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:38:57pm

re: #170 jaunte

He’s completely forgotten about the Canadian border.

He’s forgetting about a lot of things.

173 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:39:30pm

Dan Patrick speaks about education as a cost, not an investment.

174 abolitionist  Apr 15, 2014 4:40:18pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Now I’m reminded of the Cosmos episode the other night about how primitive man saw things in the sky he couldn’t explained and began to attach mystical significance to them. What science didn’t know is that primitive man didn’t die out…he just migrated to the internet.

Counterpoint: If a modern educated person is able to grasp why the daytime sky is blue (except in a particular direction… and I’ll advise against looking there), I find it shocking that such a person could be so quick to ridicule ancient beliefs that a Blood Red Moon may be a sign of seriously bad troubles ahead.

Let me pose a question. In the weeks/months after a major volcanic eruption anywhere in this world, or an impact from a small astroid, would you expect the moon to look like it usually does? Eclipse or not.

175 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:40:30pm

Patrick just offered a hypothetical situation in which an anchor baby grows up, and tries to get into UT, but gets denied because the spot went to a DREAMer. He says it would be a tragedy.

Ummm… other than an arbitrary legal distinction, what’s the difference?

176 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:40:42pm
177 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:41:39pm

“These kids can go to a community college.”

178 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:42:55pm

Patrick: “I’m the one candidate that the Democrats fear.”

179 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 4:43:24pm

Patrick would repeal in-state tuition for the Dreamers.

180 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 4:43:32pm

re: #177 jaunte

“These kids can go to a community college.”

I could make a Texas A&M joke here, but I shall resist…

182 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:44:36pm

re: #178 jaunte

Patrick: “I’m the one candidate that the Democrats fear.”

Castro: “Actually, you’re our meal ticket back into office.”

183 Ming  Apr 15, 2014 4:44:39pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bet he amended those returns right after he lost.

I never thought of that. New precedent: release only those tax returns that can still be amended (the deadline hasn’t passed).

184 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:45:38pm

Dan Patrick is a horrible person.

185 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:46:03pm
186 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:48:08pm

187 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:48:29pm

Patrick is suddenly harping on abortion. Wow, who told him that was a good idea?

188 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 4:48:56pm

re: #187 AntonSirius

Patrick is suddenly harping on abortion. Wow, who told him that was a good idea?

No one. They can’t help it.

189 blueraven  Apr 15, 2014 4:49:05pm

Oh good grief…Patrick is trying to distract with abortion issues.

190 goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2014 4:50:51pm

re: #161 jaunte

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They showed up white.

191 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:51:13pm

Dan Patrick just bragged about how much money he helped raise for inner-city children “most of whom were brown or black” and that “he did it quietly.”

192 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 4:52:29pm
193 goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2014 4:53:22pm

re: #159 AntonSirius

Patrick just said that adding more citizens via DREAM devalues citizenship.

But getting citizenship by random circumstance of birth somehow doesn’t?

194 abolitionist  Apr 15, 2014 4:53:46pm

re: #30 GunstarGreen

[snip] The science of planetary and lunar orbit and rotation is understood. It is incontrovertible. It is a known, 100% certain fact that the earth rotates around the sun, that the moon rotates around the earth,
[snip]

It takes a while for truly rotationary ideas to be widely accepted.

195 calochortus  Apr 15, 2014 4:53:51pm

re: #192 jaunte

There’s quantity of life and there’s quality of life. He apparently favors the former at the expense of the latter.

196 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 4:54:17pm

Patrick: “This isn’t about politics. Now let me tell you my campaign platform…”

197 goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2014 4:56:03pm

re: #192 jaunte

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In the modern world there might actually be a point to this, if say our entire system readjusted itself to pay agricultural workers decent wages and didn’t cruelly exploit the labor of a perpetual underclass.

198 b_sharp  Apr 15, 2014 4:58:41pm

re: #194 abolitionist

[snip] The science of planetary and lunar orbit and rotation is understood. It is incontrovertible. It is a known, 100% certain fact that the earth rotates around the sun, that the moon rotates around the earth,
[snip]

It takes a while for truly rotationary ideas to be widely accepted.

Upding for the bad pun.

199 Kragar  Apr 15, 2014 5:01:16pm

Got in a good game of 40k this afternoon. Only 1000 pts, and was getting my ass handed to me the first 4 turns, but pulled out a win in the end.

200 Belafon  Apr 15, 2014 5:01:37pm

re: #174 abolitionist

They’re not ridiculing ancient beliefs. They are ridiculing modern people still holding onto those ancient beliefs.

201 ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2014 5:04:08pm

re: #96 dog philosopher


Casual weed smoking linked
to brain abnormalities, study finds

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, researchers have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes — finding that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures.

for the first time ever

only took 80 years

and who’s to say any changes in brain structure aren’t an improvement?

Yeah man. Mind expansion. The structures got bigger as the individual started to ponder his existence in the world, grew more interested in all the little things and got into reading and learning about shit.

: )

202 Kragar  Apr 15, 2014 5:05:01pm

I respect the religious beliefs of others right up to the point they attempt to use them as a precedent to pass reprehensible laws or use them as a basis for discrimination.

203 abolitionist  Apr 15, 2014 5:05:29pm

re: #200 Belafon

Sometimes I jump in before reading the story and following links. (And I’m a bit sleep-deprived now.)

204 Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2014 5:05:43pm

re: #100 Political Atheist

*gasp* LOL *whooping inhale*

Shoe Truthers’ Wonder If Hillary Staged Shoe Throwing Incident

Shuthers?

Hillary’s a wttch. She threw the shoe at herself.

205 Ming  Apr 15, 2014 5:07:13pm

re: #164 klys

I suspect he was accurate in his tithing. The Mormon church takes that *very* seriously.

I suspect he had years where his tax rate worked out to be below 10% and that’s what he didn’t want to reveal. The two years he released? He knew he was going to have to release, so things were deliberately tweaked to have him paying more.

What you say adds to my own knowledge and perspective. Not being a fan of Mitt Romney, I can’t resist noting that I’ve read that the Mormon Church sometimes uses “the honor system” for tithing. So as you say, any “irregularity” in this area would have had major ramifications for Romney personally… IF they were revealed.

You make a good point; his reasons might have been that he had years where his tax rate was unusually low. That would have had a major impact on his candidacy; it would have been a gold mine for the Obama campaign.

206 Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2014 5:10:41pm

re: #125 jaunte

Josh Romney being dumb about taxes:
twitter.com

Willard has his accountant file electronically. I file electronically, and I don’t even have hidden offshore accounts.

What a pile of B.S.

207 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:11:16pm

Susan B. Anthony List v. Driehaus

Issue: (1) Whether, to challenge a speech-suppressive law, a party whose speech is arguably proscribed must prove that authorities would certainly and successfully prosecute him, as the Sixth Circuit holds, or should the court presume that a credible threat of prosecution exists absent desuetude or a firm commitment by prosecutors not to enforce the law, as seven other Circuits hold; and (2) whether the Sixth Circuit erred by holding, in direct conflict with the Eighth Circuit, that state laws proscribing “false” political speech are not subject to pre-enforcement First Amendment review so long as the speaker maintains that its speech is true, even if others who enforce the law manifestly disagree.

My brain is having a difficult time with legalese these past couple of weeks. Please, someone, decode this for me.

Also interesting are the amicus briefs filed.

208 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 15, 2014 5:11:37pm

re: #204 Skip Intro

Hillary’s a wttch. She threw the shoe at herself.

She borrowed Obama’s TARDIS.

209 calochortus  Apr 15, 2014 5:11:59pm

re: #164 klys

I suspect he was accurate in his tithing. The Mormon church takes that *very* seriously.

I suspect he had years where his tax rate worked out to be below 10% and that’s what he didn’t want to reveal. The two years he released? He knew he was going to have to release, so things were deliberately tweaked to have him paying more.

I wouldn’t put it past either Romney or the Mormon Church to make some sort of ‘deal’ on the tithe. The tax rate below 10% is also possible. Of course, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

210 Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2014 5:12:07pm

re: #192 jaunte

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He’s only pro-life until the little parasites are born, then they can fend for themselves.

211 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 5:13:52pm

re: #205 Ming

What you say adds to my own knowledge and perspective. Not being a fan of Mitt Romney, I can’t resist noting that I’ve read that the Mormon Church sometimes uses “the honor system” for tithing. So as you say, any “irregularity” in this area would have had major ramifications for Romney personally… IF they were revealed.

You make a good point; his reasons might have been that he had years where his tax rate was unusually low. That would have had a major impact on his candidacy; it would have been a gold mine for the Obama campaign.

I read ‘honor system’ as ‘horror system’, and pictured them threatening folks with eternal damnation for cheating on their tithes.

212 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 5:13:55pm

re: #154 jaunte

“…hardened criminals crossing the border…”

just looking to get their hands on some easy money stoop labor and slaughterhouse work

213 Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2014 5:14:10pm

re: #208 The Ghost of a Flea

She borrowed Obama’s TARDIS.

Now I’m sorry I posted that. I could have sold it to Limbaugh for tomorrow’s show.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

214 Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2014 5:14:39pm

re: #213 Skip Intro

Now I’m sorry I posted that. I could have sold it to Limbaugh for tomorrow’s show.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Live and learn.

215 GeneJockey  Apr 15, 2014 5:18:08pm

re: #202 Kragar

I respect the religious beliefs of others right up to the point they attempt to use them as a precedent to pass reprehensible laws or use them as a basis for discrimination.

“Respect” is too strong a word for how I feel about it. BUT, I outwardly appear to respect them, i.e. I don’t tell believers how I really feel about some of their beliefs.

Unless they get all up in my face denigrate mine, then all bets are off.

216 goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2014 5:18:48pm

re: #207 FemNaziBitch

>Susan B. Anthony List v. Driehaus

My brain is having a difficult time with legalese these past couple of weeks. Please, someone, decode this for me.

Also interesting are the amicus briefs filed.

Basically what kind of test must someone pass before being able to challenge a law that punishes speech. Do they have to prove that they’re basically 100% certain to be prosecuted and convicted under the letter of that law, or is the bar set somewhat lower.

217 Bubblehead II  Apr 15, 2014 5:18:53pm

[Lurk Mode] [Evening Lizards.

btw, Blood moon in Southern Idaho sucked. Should have stayed in bed with the Wife and got some needed sleep, but noooooooo, I had to get up and see it. What a waste of sleep/snuggle time. [/Lurk Mode]

218 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 15, 2014 5:23:22pm

Oh. Crap.

I just saw this:

.Winter Storm Warning remains in effect from 10 am Wednesday to 10 am CDT Thursday…

* location…northwest Wisconsin…including the Highway 53 and Highway 2 corridors…and the Hayward lakes and Gogebic Range areas.

* Timing…snow will begin Wednesday morning and increase in intensity and coverage through the day Wednesday…eventually diminishing and moving out of the region early Thursday morning.

* Snow accumulations…10 to 15 inches of snow is possible. The heaviest amounts will likely extend from the Minong and Gordon areas northeastward to around Ironwood and Ashland.

* Winds/visibility…northeast winds 20 to 25 mph are expected with the strongest winds close to Lake Superior. Frequent gusts 30 to 40 mph are possible. Visibility will be less than one quarter of a mile at times during the heavier snow bands… and especially closer to Lake Superior with the combination of strong winds and blowing snow.

* Impacts…the heavy snow and high winds could bring down branches. Roads could become snow covered with low visibility.

Where the Fuck is Spring???

219 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 5:24:17pm

re: #204 Skip Intro

Hillary’s a wttch. She threw the shoe at herself.

Proof: shoes float in water.

220 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:25:01pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Basically what kind of test must someone pass before being able to challenge a law that punishes speech. Do they have to prove that they’re basically 100% certain to be prosecuted and convicted under the letter of that law, or is the bar set somewhat lower.

both the amicus curae by PJORourke/Cato and the ACLU recommend the reversal of the law.

I’m unsure how this plays out with libel and slander laws and mostly, why does Susan B. Anthony want to be able to lie?

221 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 5:25:26pm

re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh. Crap.

I just saw this:

Where the Fuck is Spring???

Um, in New Mexico. It promised to head north for a visit. Soon.

222 Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2014 5:26:05pm

Have a nifty little short Javascript function to scale objects proportionally up or down by maximum width or maximum height.

function imageScale(width, height, maxWidth, maxHeight) {
	var ratio = maxHeight
		? Math.min(maxWidth / width, maxHeight / height)
		: maxWidth / width;
	return {
		width: Math.ceil(width * ratio),
		height: Math.ceil(height * ratio)
	};
}
223 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:26:33pm

re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh. Crap.

I just saw this:

Where the Fuck is Spring???

There is a rule (unwritten) in parts North of Indianapolis. Don’t plant your flowers until Mother’s Day.

224 AntonSirius  Apr 15, 2014 5:28:09pm

re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh. Crap.

I just saw this:

Where the Fuck is Spring???

225 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:28:18pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Basically what kind of test must someone pass before being able to challenge a law that punishes speech. Do they have to prove that they’re basically 100% certain to be prosecuted and convicted under the letter of that law, or is the bar set somewhat lower.

I mean, do they just have to believe what they say is true. I’m seeing some real Science vs. Superstition here.

Yes, I am mostly bothered because it is Susan B. Anthony.

226 aagcobb  Apr 15, 2014 5:34:26pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

And now for a break from primitive lifeforms who insist that an eclipse is some kind of sign from the Divine. Consider this a form of brain bleach.

Meet Ashol-Pan, a 13-year old Mongolian eagle huntress.

This is NOT photoshopped. And it kicks ass.

Edited to include link: bbc.com

Think you and your rottweiler are badass? Think again.

227 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 5:37:53pm

re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis

Where the Fuck is Spring???

it’s so romantic when you quote poetry to me!

(gush!)

228 dog philosopher  Apr 15, 2014 5:39:58pm

re: #226 aagcobb

Think you and your rottweiler are badass? Think again.

bumper sticker

My Trained Hunting Eagle Carried Your Rottweiler Off To A Remote Mountain Peak And Fed It To Her Chicks

229 abolitionist  Apr 15, 2014 5:40:57pm

re: #97 kirkspencer

[snip]
It’s really that simple: You can have ‘fair’ or you can have ‘easy’.

i1040.pdf from irs.gov had a section about filing your return. I had paper forms to mail in, but could find nothing in that whole document about where to mail them. Not in the table of contents, the index, or that so-specifically-named section. After about 15 min, I resorted to googling.

230 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 5:41:05pm

re: #218 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh. Crap.

I just saw this:

Where the Fuck is Spring???

231 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 15, 2014 5:41:17pm

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

There is a rule (unwritten) in parts North of Indianapolis. Don’t plant your flowers until Mother’s Day.

I grew up in this state. I’m used to March snow storms and April Thunder Showers. Not 15” after Happy Tax Day!!!!! O_o

232 wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2014 5:42:08pm
233 aagcobb  Apr 15, 2014 5:43:18pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Rummy, maybe you should’ve talked to the President you were employed by for several years about this when he could’ve done something about it. Its not like tax returns just got complicated in 2009 or something.

234 Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2014 5:44:52pm

235 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:46:00pm

re: #231 William Barnett-Lewis

I grew up in this state. I’m used to March snow storms and April Thunder Showers. Not 15” after Happy Tax Day!!!!! O_o

Still it happens, this isn’t the first year and it won’t be the last. I admit, it’s usually more like morning frost on the ground killing the petunias …

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 5:46:12pm

Bomb squad on the scene, one person in custody.

237 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:46:56pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

FUCK!

238 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:47:15pm

NPR Sirius Radio had a very good segment on the Boston Maraton today.

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 5:48:00pm
240 Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2014 5:48:16pm

Somebody thought that would be a clever thing to do?

We’re a nation of idiots.

241 Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2014 5:48:33pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bomb squad on the scene, one person in custody.

[Embedded content]

Taser that dumbass in the balls, please.

242 Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2014 5:49:14pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

Taser that dumbass in the balls, please.

You’re way too kind.

243 Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2014 5:50:08pm

re: #242 Skip Intro

You’re way too kind.

I’m a people person, don’t ya know?

/

244 Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2014 5:53:59pm
245 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 5:54:51pm

re: #226 aagcobb

Think you and your rottweiler are badass? Think again.

Thank you so much for that link.

I never realized people used Eagles and well as hawks and falcons.

Just never thought about it.

The pictures of that huntress are awesome. She is such a natural for the camera.

246 Belafon  Apr 15, 2014 5:55:57pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

When I try to click the link I get:

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to eff.org.

The OCSP server has no status for the certificate.

(Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert)

247 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2014 5:55:57pm
248 kirkspencer  Apr 15, 2014 5:56:14pm

re: #229 abolitionist

i1040.pdf from irs.gov had a section about filing your return. I had paper forms to mail in, but could find nothing in that whole document about where to mail them. Not in the table of contents, the index, or that so-specifically-named section. After about 15 min, I resorted to googling.

Page 104, last page of 1040 instructions proper. Funny thing is that this has never been in the table of contents or the index, but it’s always been on the last page. But with the i1040 it’s no longer quite so obvious.

249 jaunte  Apr 15, 2014 5:57:13pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

Tax, Spend and Surveil
Reason magazine has an excellent essay about IRS and privacy, outlining how the IRS obtains, scours and fails to secure personal data collected from taxpayers, while tax-reform advocate Grover Norquist wrote a worthwhile op-ed in The Daily Caller today about how the IRS exploits the outdated Electronic Communications Privacy Act. But it’s also important to consider that the taxes the government collects ultimately fund the surveillance state.

This is getting into Alex Jones territory.

250 klys  Apr 15, 2014 6:01:02pm

re: #249 jaunte

LOL, “Grover Norquist, tax reform advocate.”

251 abolitionist  Apr 15, 2014 6:02:19pm

re: #248 kirkspencer

Page 104, last page of 1040 instructions proper. Funny thing is that this has never been in the table of contents or the index, but it’s always been on the last page. But with the i1040 it’s no longer quite so obvious.

Thanks. I found on irs.gov that it’s (by design) dependent on ones state, the form, payment-included-or-not, etc.

252 Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2014 6:04:52pm

re: #246 Belafon

Somebody’s messing with an htaccess file over there.

/smdh

253 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 6:08:21pm

254 Snarknado!  Apr 15, 2014 6:08:32pm

re: #252 Charles Johnson

Somebody’s messing with an htaccess file over there.

/smdh

This one worked for me.

255 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 6:10:57pm
256 ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2014 6:11:23pm

re: #229 abolitionist

i1040.pdf from irs.gov had a section about filing your return. I had paper forms to mail in, but could find nothing in that whole document about where to mail them. Not in the table of contents, the index, or that so-specifically-named section. After about 15 min, I resorted to googling.

I’m late to the thread…so if already mentioned, sorry.

The addresses are in i1040.pdf. They are on page 104 under general information. There is no big headline to catch your eye. There is a graphic of an envelope. There are lists like a paragraph with the states and then two columns of addresses. One for no payment, one for.

I know, cuz I had to dig them out yesterday…and I’ve used the pdf docs the last few years and knew I had seen them before.

257 Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2014 6:13:12pm

Haven’t seen this up—WSJ: Rand Paul for President

online.wsj.com

Epic Red-on-Red GOP Fratricide

258 FemNaziBitch  Apr 15, 2014 6:28:05pm
259 Origuy  Apr 15, 2014 9:28:08pm

I saw an group of falconers at a Highland Games a few years ago. They had various hawks, falcons, and a couple of golden eagles. The guy who flew one of the eagles (which had been rescued after it flew into a power line) said that it was the only bird there which saw people as prey. You have to be strong to hold them. Hunting birds are never tame. You have to make them want to come back to you.


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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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