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1 jaunte  Apr 16, 2014 7:46:06pm

Hashtag #desperatelyseekingattention

2 Charles Johnson  Apr 16, 2014 7:46:37pm

Un-freaking-real. They just can’t help themselves.

3 SpaceJesus  Apr 16, 2014 8:07:57pm

Onion Video

4 Targetpractice  Apr 16, 2014 8:09:15pm

Joe who?

5 Charles Johnson  Apr 16, 2014 8:09:18pm
6 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 16, 2014 8:11:33pm

I get the sense that Obama and Biden are actually pretty good buddies.

7 GeneJockey  Apr 16, 2014 8:12:04pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Charles, I will take your word for it. I find myself embarassed that I used to like his blogging, but then he seems to have gone so far around the bend that he can’t see the bend anymore

8 dog philosopher  Apr 16, 2014 8:14:36pm

geez how bad do you have to be to fail as a republican?

9 Charles Johnson  Apr 16, 2014 8:16:09pm
10 Kragar  Apr 16, 2014 8:19:45pm

Nice to see Walsh has continued his career as an asshole after losing his congressional seat.

11 Gus  Apr 16, 2014 8:20:44pm
12 Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2014 8:21:06pm

re: #3 SpaceJesus

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Oh heh.

13 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2014 8:22:30pm

re: #10 Kragar

Nice to see Walsh has continued his career as an asshole after losing his congressional seat.

It’s the pursuit of a singular passion.

14 makeitstop  Apr 16, 2014 8:23:35pm

re: #11 Gus

Tomorrow I’m taking a selfie with Allen West in the back of a Land Rover.

So he can show everyone he has a war criminal friend.
/

15 Killgore Trout  Apr 16, 2014 8:24:08pm

re: #10 Kragar

Nice to see Walsh has continued his career as an asshole after losing his congressional seat.

He’s a radio show host now. Shock jock tactics are an easy way to generate publicity.

16 The War TARDIS  Apr 16, 2014 8:25:18pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Is my tweet going to bring the Cult of Greenwald on me?

17 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 16, 2014 8:27:47pm

My students here in China are endlessly amazed on how down-to-earth Obama (and Biden) are. China’s political leaders are stiff and overly formal, like a Romneybot without the plastered-on smile, and would never appear on a comedy program or post selfies like this one on Sina Weibo.

Biden and Obama are the kind of guys I’d invite over to a barbecue. I’m sure they’d have a lot of stories to share.

(Probably, I’d need to lay in extra food for the SS detail, though. At least the agents wouldn’t be drinking the beer up. … I think.)

18 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 16, 2014 8:28:19pm

re: #16 The War TARDIS

Is my tweet going to bring the Cult of Greenwald on me?

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

19 iossarian  Apr 16, 2014 8:32:10pm

re: #11 Gus

It’s too funny that he would actually say that.

“Allen West is a Republican and he is black!”

20 Gus  Apr 16, 2014 8:33:45pm

re: #19 iossarian

It’s too funny that he would actually say that.

“Allen West is a Republican and he is black!”

Yep. For Joe Walsh, Obama isn’t the president but instead for him, Obama is still, “just another black guy.”

21 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 16, 2014 8:36:22pm

re: #11 Gus

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If I actually used twitter, I’d be tempted to say “I am so glad a real American Hero kicked you out of a job you disgraced.”

22 palomino  Apr 16, 2014 8:36:25pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

He’s a radio show host now. Shock jock tactics are an easy way to generate publicity.

Indeed, that’s probably the only reason he gives a shit about the photo. Fodder for his show. He’ll take something totally benign (a Biden-Obama selfie) and use it to manufacture outrage at something even though it’s completely irrelevant to pretty much everything.

23 GeneJockey  Apr 16, 2014 8:37:00pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

He’s a radio show host now. Shock jock tactics are an easy way to generate publicity.

Christ, they’ll hire anybody. Maybe I could do that, I can feign outrage.

24 Aqua Obama  Apr 16, 2014 8:42:50pm

Oh wow Missouri

Marionville Mayor: I agree with Frazier Miller’s beliefs, not behaviors

“I am a friend of Frazier Miller helping to spread his warnings,” wrote Clevenger. “The Jew-run medical industry has succeeded in destroying the United State’s workforce.”

25 Majacita  Apr 16, 2014 8:51:24pm

I looked at that photo and thought, “those two really seem to like each other. The smiles look genuine and more carefree than I would expect with the pressures on them both.” Joe Walsh looked at the same picture and I have trouble even conceptualizing what he saw, unless it’s that the VP only hangs with the POTUS because he’s his token black friend?

26 Majacita  Apr 16, 2014 8:55:39pm

I wish I could photoshop to put myself in Biden’s place so I could post it as “Me and my black friend.”

27 HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2014 9:00:21pm

re: #24 Aqua Obama

Oh wow Missouri

Marionville Mayor: I agree with Frazier Miller’s beliefs, not behaviors

Yeah yikes.

28 HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2014 9:00:54pm

re: #14 makeitstop

So he can show everyone he has a war criminal friend.
/

Hey not many people would be friends with a war criminal. Joe’s just showing he’s inclusive.//

29 Targetpractice  Apr 16, 2014 9:05:47pm

Finally got around to see to seeing Captain America: The Winter Soldier. And I have one thing to say…

Spoiler

HAIL HYDRA!

30 dog philosopher  Apr 16, 2014 9:09:01pm

two’s complement, three’s a crwth

31 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 16, 2014 9:09:12pm

re: #25 Majacita

I looked at that photo and thought, “those two really seem to like each other. The smiles look genuine and more carefree than I would expect with the pressures on them both.” Joe Walsh looked at the same picture and I have trouble even conceptualizing what he saw, unless it’s that the VP only hangs with the POTUS because he’s his token black friend?

My thoughts exactly.

32 HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2014 9:11:35pm

Walsh is obviously an incredibly bitter man. Obama and Biden are both going to be remembered and he if he’s remembered at all will be as that deadbeat dad who attacked Tammy Duckworth. Joe Walsh isn’t even going to the most famous Joe Walsh in history.

33 Ming  Apr 16, 2014 9:14:18pm

re: #17 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

My students here in China are endlessly amazed on how down-to-earth Obama (and Biden) are…Biden and Obama are the kind of guys I’d invite over to a barbecue…

Only 7 - 10 years ago, when they were both in the U. S. Senate, Biden was taking Amtrak from D. C. to Delaware to have dinner with his family, and Obama was flying from D. C. to Chicago to spend weekends with his family.

34 GeneJockey  Apr 16, 2014 9:15:37pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Walsh is obviously an incredibly bitter man. Obama and Biden are both going to be remembered and he if he’s remembered at all will be as that deadbeat dad who attacked Tammy Duckworth. Joe Walsh isn’t even going to the most famous Joe Walsh in history.

Life has NOT been good to him so far.

35 palmerskiss  Apr 16, 2014 9:16:41pm

hiya lizards, hope everyone is well…

36 andres  Apr 16, 2014 9:25:04pm

That’s envy, pure and simple. That picture shows two things Walsh wish he could do: take a photo with a real black friend, and take a selfie with a President.

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Walsh is obviously an incredibly bitter man. Obama and Biden are both going to be remembered and he if he’s remembered at all will be as that deadbeat dad who attacked Tammy Duckworth. Joe Walsh isn’t even going to the most famous Joe Walsh in history.

Bitter and nasty. He would probably won’t be remembered for more than a roll call list in Congress. Obama and Biden have their names etched in a bigger part of history.

37 palomino  Apr 16, 2014 9:25:18pm

I just visited the stalker blog for the first time. Wow, what a cesspool.

Their extreme fixation on one person (CJ) and his “heresy” is bizarre and monomaniacal.

And they love that meme that Dems are the real racists because of…KKK! As if nothing could possibly change in a political party over the course of 150 years.

38 Ming  Apr 16, 2014 9:29:58pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

…Fact: the owner of the blog @ggreenwald linked to today boasted openly about stabbing Muslims in the face. Listen: littlegreenfootballs.com …

That is one of the most unpleasant and hateful audios I’ve ever heard.

39 Political Atheist  Apr 16, 2014 9:30:24pm

re: #35 palmerskiss

All good at the 3 Lizard Lair. Had some carne asada and listening to some Arlo Guthrie. “500 miles when the day is done” and “Coming into Los Angeles with a couple of keys”

Way old school evening.

40 majii  Apr 16, 2014 9:31:26pm

re: #11 Gus

It’s too bad that Walsh is so out of touch that he doesn’t realize no one gives a damn about him staging a fake “black friendship” pic with Allen West. Most of the blacks I know, including myself, detest everything West represents.

41 Political Atheist  Apr 16, 2014 9:33:35pm

re: #37 palomino

I just visited the stalker blog for the first time. Wow, what a cesspool.

Their extreme fixation on one person (CJ) and his “heresy” is bizarre and monomaniacal.

And they love that meme that Dems are the real racists because of…KKK! As if nothing could possibly change in a political party over the course of 150 years.

Heh. I’m the conservative “turned hard leftist” over there. Pffft.

42 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2014 9:38:22pm

Funny how Joe Walsh being a shock jock sounds exactly like Joe Walsh being a political candidate.

43 freetoken  Apr 16, 2014 9:42:13pm

re: #24 Aqua Obama

Oh wow Missouri

Marionville Mayor: I agree with Frazier Miller’s beliefs, not behaviors

Wikipedia, fastest thing in the west:

Marionville, Missouri

[…]

Marionville has a population of white squirrels, which is one of a handful of such populations in the United States. They can be seen in yards near the Ozarks Methodist Manor.

The mayor of Marionville, Danny Clevenger, has written in support of anti-Semitic views and has expressed agreement with violent anti-Semites that Jewish people have conspired to control the economy for their own profit.[7]

44 dog philosopher  Apr 16, 2014 9:44:48pm

new routine for the library:

perform two’s complement conversion on bitstream where number of bits does not conform to byte boundaries, e.g. a 10 bit number where the most significant bit needs to be taken as the sign bit

45 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 16, 2014 9:44:57pm

re: #41 Political Atheist

Heh. I’m the conservative “turned hard leftist” over there. Pffft.

Considering I started as one of the first really true hard leftists (card carrying socialist, etc) ‘round here, I can only imagine what they’d think if they actually really knew me :)

Of course this new to me but seriously old-fashioned toy (from 1972) of mine would confuse them to no end…

46 andres  Apr 16, 2014 9:50:41pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Finally got around to see to seeing Captain America: The Winter Soldier. And I have one thing to say…

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I’d say it’s a solid movie in the Marvel Movie Universe. It stands well alone, and makes some very interesting changes in the Universe. This is another set up movie, but better done than Iron Man 2.

Spoiler

With Stark without his armors, SHIELD imploded, and many of their best agents spread around, it will bring some interesting interactions in Avengers 2.

I found interesting that Captain Rogers still represents the best of old time America.

47 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 16, 2014 9:55:13pm

re: #46 andres

I’d say it’s a solid movie in the Marvel Movie Universe. It stands well alone, and makes some very interesting changes in the Universe. This is another set up movie, but better done than Iron Man 2.

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I found interesting that Captain Rogers still represents the best of old time America.

The Captain _is_ America … ;)

48 freetoken  Apr 16, 2014 9:56:36pm

re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis

The Captain _is_ America … ;)

I thought the Captain was Mr. Tennille?

49 Gus  Apr 16, 2014 10:00:06pm
50 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 16, 2014 10:03:49pm

re: #48 freetoken

I thought the Captain was Mr. Tennille?

I prefer the 40’s to the 70’s ;)

51 sagehen  Apr 16, 2014 10:13:02pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Finally got around to see to seeing Captain America: The Winter Soldier. And I have one thing to say…

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I haven’t seen it, it’ll be ages until I see it.

I’ve been watching the TV show… and I’m irritated that the plot suddenly ties in with the movie. TV shows should not do that mid-season.

52 dog philosopher  Apr 16, 2014 10:13:04pm

re: #50 William Barnett-Lewis

I prefer the 40’s to the 70’s ;)

personally i try to arrange my life at home so that i rarely have to be reminded that it is later than 1948

53 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2014 10:18:19pm

re: #48 freetoken

I thought the Captain was Mr. Tennille?

The Cap’n is Crunch.

54 Targetpractice  Apr 16, 2014 10:32:24pm

re: #46 andres

I’d say it’s a solid movie in the Marvel Movie Universe. It stands well alone, and makes some very interesting changes in the Universe. This is another set up movie, but better done than Iron Man 2.

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I found interesting that Captain Rogers still represents the best of old time America.

The first slew of Marvel Studios films, started with Iron Man up to The Avengers, was really largely about building up this new universe and showing how everything fit together. The new films, starting with Iron Man 3, seem more about dealing with the world that’s been created now by the appearance of all these new superheroes as well as the mark they’ve left on the world.

Spoiler

Stark dealing with his baggage, Thor dealing with being of Asgard as well as fond of Earth, and now the Captain dealing with the fall of SHIELD and the loss of trust in the only real lifelines he had, is going to have a lot of bearing on the new Avengers film. I’m very curious about how they can be brought back together and under who’s flag they’ll assemble now that SHIELD is kaput.

55 freetoken  Apr 16, 2014 10:33:01pm

re: #50 William Barnett-Lewis

I prefer the 40’s to the 70’s ;)

Well, let’s see….

1970’s:

MP3 Audio

1940’s:

MP3 Audio

56 dog philosopher  Apr 16, 2014 10:37:28pm

re: #55 freetoken

Well, let’s see….

1970’s:

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1930s

Youtube Video

57 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 16, 2014 10:41:20pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The first slew of Marvel Studios films, started with Iron Man up to The Avengers, was really largely about building up this new universe and showing how everything fit together. The new films, starting with Iron Man 3, seem more about dealing with the world that’s been created now by the appearance of all these new superheroes as well as the mark they’ve left on the world.

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The problem with this idea is - where do the X-Men fit in? They were always marvel’s black sheep in one way or the other even while being the best of their universe otherwise.

No, Cyclopse, Kitty, and all the rest will always be better than the movies…

59 Kragar  Apr 16, 2014 10:52:07pm

re: #57 William Barnett-Lewis

The problem is: Marvel sold off the movies rights to the X-Men and Spiderman before they joined Disney and aren’t likely to get them back any time soon due to the way those licenses work, so they tweak the universes to get rid of them.

60 Targetpractice  Apr 16, 2014 10:56:23pm

re: #59 Kragar

The problem is: Marvel sold off the movies rights to the X-Men and Spiderman before they joined Disney and aren’t likely to get them back any time soon due to the way those licenses work, so they tweak the universes to get rid of them.

So long as the studios which own them can find new ways to resuscitate those cash cows, they’ll never get sold back to Marvel. Which in some ways is a shame because of the possible cameos that could be in the Marvel Studios films, but on the other hand there’s already enough on the plate without adding more stuff like human/mutant relations or the whole “Civil War” arc that did everything it could to drag Tony Stark’s character through the mud and then light what was left on fire.

61 theheat  Apr 16, 2014 10:59:02pm

re: #58 Aqua Obama

“Phillips was the dominant authority figure in Ms. Torres’s life and family,” the suit claims. “He made himself her spiritual father. He was her authority figure with regard to where she lived, where she worked, where and how she worshipped, her education, her interpersonal relationships, her time and schedule, and even acted as her counselor.”

Let’s pretend this was a formulaic horror movie for just a moment. The correct response to that situation would be, “Ya’ll are fucking crazy. Get me the hell out of here NOW.”

Raise your daughters to think for themselves, value themselves, and not get sucked into crazy. Also, to recognize crazy when they see it, instead of trying to accommodate crazy to affirm their self-worth. That would have helped a lot.

Raising girls as a herd of complacent little broodmares is about one of the creepiest things I can think of.

62 palmerskiss  Apr 16, 2014 11:08:15pm

re: #39 Political Atheist

All good at the 3 Lizard Lair. Had some carne asada and listening to some Arlo Guthrie. “500 miles when the day is done” and “Coming into Los Angeles with a couple of keys”

Way old school evening.

:D sounds like an evening!!!

63 dog philosopher  Apr 16, 2014 11:10:40pm

Ukraine’s interior minister says, in Facebook post, 3 pro-Russian separatists killed at Mariupol near Azov Sea

64 Targetpractice  Apr 16, 2014 11:11:06pm

One of the other things to keep in mind is something that was pointed out during a special they did on ABC a few days back about the Marvel Movieverse and how it came into being. They went with Iron Man and the films that followed because Spiderman, X-Men, and Fantastic Four were already sold to other studios. If that weren’t the case, if Marvel owned those movie rights, we might never have gotten The Avengers. Then again, we might also not have had to watch X-Men 3 and Spiderman 3…

65 darthstar  Apr 16, 2014 11:13:21pm

re: #58 Aqua Obama

Lawsuit reveals teen was groomed as personal sex slave in the Duggar family’s movement

Quiverfull of fuckers.

66 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 16, 2014 11:24:27pm

For any lovers of digital art, my former student and a high school classmate of my son has an exhibition online here.

From his email announcement:

I am excited to share with you my newest series of works titled Parallels. The works explore interaction with our contemporary digital worlds and landscapes through the use of animation, 3D scanning, interactive web based works, and written word. The works were commissioned by the web based gallery Neverland Space and is now online for public viewing. I invite you to see these new works in their native digital environment! Click, drag, and explore these spaces. The works will be hosted with Neverland Space until the 24th of May in which afterwards they can be viewed on my website.

MARK DORF: PARALLELS

“Through the World Wide Web, we have created a parallel. Using our physical reality as the original text, we have translated and manipulated our world and experiences into something new that runs and slides atop what we see and navigate physically. Parallels explores my interaction with this world and the ways in which we absorb, navigate and manipulate this digital landscape.”

NOTE: This project will not work on mobile phones due to the use of WebGL, once it is on my own site it will then work on your cellular device.

68 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:13:00am
69 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:14:11am
70 Amory Blaine  Apr 17, 2014 12:35:08am

I’m just glad to be here. I know how it used to be around here and I hated LGF. (Can you tell I changed my mind? ;). Life is dynamic.

71 goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2014 12:36:31am

re: #68 Kragar

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If a bunch of Bedouins who were citizens took up their ancestral lifestyle, started roaming federal lands and refused to pay grazing fees he’d go positively apeshit.

72 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 12:38:17am

re: #70 Amory Blaine

I’m just glad to be here. I know how it used to be around here and I hated LGF. (Can you tell I changed my mind? ;). Life is dynamic.

I joined the site in 2007 when it was just transitioning. I found it a place where you could have a reasoned, rational argument with a conservative. And even then, the site was solidly pro-science and pro-evolution.

73 Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2014 12:39:08am

re: #68 Kragar

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Bryan’s “logic” here is the sort of stuff that only a child would say makes sense. In Fischer’s estimation, since Bundy didn’t sign the contract that included the terms and conditions of land usage, then he legally doesn’t have to pay the fees for use of the land. And, of course, it’s “unfair” for Bundy to have to cut back on the size of his herd because it’s his livelihood.

It’s one of those times that an icepick lobotomy to make the hurting stop looks tempting.

74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 12:45:46am

re: #73 Targetpractice

There are people who just hate the federal government in all its multi-letter manifestations: NSA, CIA, FBI, ATF, IRS, BLM, etc., and would have it replaced with a feral government.

75 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:57:23am

re: #73 Targetpractice

Bryan’s “logic” here is the sort of stuff that only a child would say makes sense. In Fischer’s estimation, since Bundy didn’t sign the contract that included the terms and conditions of land usage, then he legally doesn’t have to pay the fees for use of the land. And, of course, it’s “unfair” for Bundy to have to cut back on the size of his herd because it’s his livelihood.

It’s one of those times that an icepick lobotomy to make the hurting stop looks tempting.

I never signed a contract so why should I pay my income taxes?
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76 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:59:59am

I never signed a contract, so why should I pay for your toll road?
/

77 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 1:10:23am

The ER doctors and staff never signed a contract with you. Why should they treat you just because you are bleeding to death?

78 goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2014 1:17:03am

re: #75 Kragar

I never signed a contract so why should I pay my income taxes?
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All they seem to care about is that an old, white, conservative guy wrapped up in western cowboy tropes of rugged individualism is mad at the government. The fact that he’s trying to get free access to resources he doesn’t own is irrelevant.

The truth is that ranching is a tough business in the modern market, in no small part because people like Bundy go way over their quotas and abuse the grazing lands, which has negative repercussions for the entire industry. The people I know in Montana that still run traditional beef ranches have for years had to supplement their incomes by offering tours and suchlike. It’s hard to believe from a meat loving consumer perspective but the price of meat was for a long time way too low to sustain a healthy ranching industry, and there are built in costs that factor twice.

Some of this is because much of the industry is dependent on the price of corn for feeding stock, and since the ethanol industry too off corn supplies for feed compete with and are slaved to to the price of energy. Then there’s the price of energy itself, which determines a good chunk of how much it costs to transport both the feed to the cattle and the cattle to the market. The modern economy has some reinforcing feedback mechanisms that, once they start to move, hit many smaller operators like a ton of bricks.

79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 1:24:19am

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

They just hate the federal government and see a hero in anyone who defies it, for whatever reason.

80 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 1:25:37am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They just hate the federal government and see a hero in anyone who defies it, for whatever reason.

Not so.

“Them welfare moms are bleedin’ the US of A dry!”

81 sagehen  Apr 17, 2014 1:26:23am

re: #67 Kragar

‘X-Men’ director Bryan Singer accused of sexually assaulting 17-year-old boy in 1999

Isn’t that way past the statute of limitations?

82 Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2014 1:26:44am

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

All they seem to care about is that an old, white, conservative guy wrapped up in western cowboy tropes of rugged individualism is mad at the government. The fact that he’s trying to get free access to resources he doesn’t own is irrelevant.

The truth is that ranching is a tough business in the modern market, in no small part because people like Bundy go way over their quotas and abuse the grazing lands, which has negative repercussions for the entire industry. The people I know in Montana that still run traditional beef ranches have for years had to supplement their incomes by offering tours and suchlike. It’s hard to believe from a meat loving consumer perspective but the price of meat was for a long time way too low to sustain a healthy ranching industry, and there are built in costs that factor twice.

Some of this is because much of the industry is dependent on the price of corn for feeding stock, and since the ethanol industry too off corn supplies for feed compete with and are slaved to to the price of energy. Then there’s the price of energy itself, which determines a good chunk of how much it costs to transport both the feed to the cattle and the cattle to the market. The modern economy has some reinforcing feedback mechanisms that, once they start to move, hit many smaller operators like a ton of bricks.

And that seems to be the theme I’m hearing more and more from Bundy’s supporters, now that the whole HARRY REID/CHINA!!! BS is getting so much blowback. That it’s “not fair” that Bundy can’t use federal land how he sees fit for the ridiculously low fee per head per day that was imposed before. That the BLM is somehow violating an unwritten agreement, based off what Bundy’s daughter wrote, that they’d “help” the ranchers in exchange for fees. They really do seem to run on this idea that Bundy is owed a living, that any reasons stated for cutting back his herd and limiting the space he’s allowed to graze on are “lies” meant to cover for their intentions of driving him off his own land.

83 goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2014 1:26:47am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They just hate the federal government and see a hero in anyone who defies it, for whatever reason.

No, trust me, not “anyone” and not for just “any” reason. Dark skinned domestic marijuana distributors need not apply.

84 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 1:31:17am

re: #80 Kragar

Not so.

“Them welfare moms are bleedin’ the US of A dry!”

Welfare moms are not defying the system, they are gaming it. That is only allowed for corporations…

85 goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2014 1:40:59am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Welfare moms are not defying the system, they are gaming it. That is only allowed for corporations…

I’ve never heard sovereign citizens come down on TLDS welfare moms like those in Warren Jeff’s communities. But they’re all white.

Again, the view of who is a parasite and who is patriotically “bleeding the beast” very much depends on who’s white and who isn’t, who’s urban and who’s rural, who’s “traditional american” and who is the other.

86 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 1:43:17am

re: #81 sagehen

Isn’t that way past the statute of limitations?

Quite possibly, but it might lead to a settlement or civil charges perhaps

87 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 1:49:27am

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

…the view of who is a parasite and who is patriotically “bleeding the beast” very much depends on who’s white and who isn’t, who’s urban and who’s rural, who’s “traditional american” and who is the other.

They also have this fuzzy Jeffersonian ideal of the gentleman farmer/rancher living on his own without government interference, aid or assistance.

Which of course has nothing to do with the current situation…

88 Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2014 1:56:47am

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

I’ve never heard sovereign citizens come down on TLDS welfare moms like those in Warren Jeff’s communities. But they’re all white.

Again, the view of who is a parasite and who is patriotically “bleeding the beast” very much depends on who’s white and who isn’t, who’s urban and who’s rural, who’s “traditional american” and who is the other.

And of course, despite it being years since it was debunked, they still believe in the myth of the “welfare queen,” who’s driving up to the welfare office in a brand new Cadillac and wearing expensive clothes as she sucks the government dry. And if you have to wonder about what race they envision her as, then you’re obviously new to politics.

89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 2:04:11am

re: #88 Targetpractice

And if you have to wonder about what race they envision her as, then you’re obviously new to politics.

Well, even if they are white, they are dressed as black pimps and hookers, as a hard-hitting investigative reporter once demonstrated…

90 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 2:11:56am

re: #88 Targetpractice

And of course, despite it being years since it was debunked, they still believe in the myth of the “welfare queen,” who’s driving up to the welfare office in a brand new Cadillac and wearing expensive clothes as she sucks the government dry. And if you have to wonder about what race they envision her as, then you’re obviously new to politics.

Ironically, the “welfare queen” immortalized by Saint Ronnie of Reagan was a woman who was a born finagler and grifter, who could pass as white or black depending on the circumstances. boingboing.net She was an outlier in her ability to game the system.

91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 2:23:45am

re: #90 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Ironically, the “welfare queen” immortalized by Saint Ronnie of Reagan was a woman who was abornfinagler and grifter, who could pass as white or black depending on the circumstances.

Now the image is that of the surfer dude who buys steak and shrimp on his food stamps…

92 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 2:59:07am

Putin making his move on Transnistria:

Putin urges end to blockade of Moldova’s separatist province of Trans-Dniester

Putin urges end to blockade of Moldova’s separatist province of Trans-Dniester.

Trans-Dniester - is that anywhere near Perth?

93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 3:00:59am

re: #92 freetoken

is that anywhere near Perth?

I’m just a sweet Transnistrian from Tiraspol’ in Eastern Moldavia!

94 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 3:03:51am

re: #92 freetoken

Putin making his move on Transnistria:

Putin urges end to blockade of Moldova’s separatist province of Trans-Dniester

Trans-Dniester - is that anywhere near Perth?

Why does the reference to Perth always makes me think of dragons?

95 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 3:16:20am

re: #94 FemNaziBitch

Why does the reference to Perth always makes me think of dragons?

MP3 Audio

96 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 3:35:00am

re: #94 FemNaziBitch

Why does the reference to Perth always makes me think of dragons?

The Dragonriders of Pern Perth.

97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 3:36:20am

re: #96 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

The Dragonriders of Pern Perth.

I thought it was Perthy the Dragon

98 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:00:07am

I see assholery is alive and well, from Walsh to Greenwald.

Cheeeeez.

And now, Putin is trying to blame his moves in Ukraine on NATO.

More: Moscow’s intervention in Crimea was, in part, influenced by NATO enlargement, Putin says - @Reuters
end of alert

1h
NATO enlargement is squeezing Russia out of Black Sea region, Russia’s Putin says - @Reuters
end of alert

99 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 4:04:03am

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

NATO enlargement is squeezing Russia out of Black Sea region, Russia’s Putin says - @Reuters
end of alert

Although NATO lost its justification with the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, it is merely an excuse, he would’ve found a casus belli even without it.

100 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:10:37am

Obviously, the Federal law isn’t within Levison’s area of expertise.

Pro tip: Always hire a lawyer knowledgeable and experienced in these matters and stop trying to be a know-it-all, ‘cause you’re not the qualified god you think you are.

Snowden’s Email Provider Loses Appeal Over Encryption Keys

wired.com

“A federal appeals court has upheld a contempt citation against the founder of the defunct secure e-mail company Lavabit, finding that the weighty internet privacy issues he raised on appeal should have been brought up earlier in the legal process.

“The decision disposes of a closely watched privacy case on a technicality, without ruling one way or the other on the substantial issue: whether an internet company can be compelled to turn over the master encryption keys for its entire system to facilitate court-approved surveillance on a single user.

(snip)

“Levison resisted the order on the grounds that he couldn’t comply without reprogramming the elaborate encryption system he’d built to protect his users’ privacy. He eventually relented and offered to gather up the email metadata and transmit it to the government after 60 days. Later he offered to engineer a faster solution. But by then, weeks had passed, and the FBI was determined to get what it wanted directly and in real time.” More

101 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 4:11:15am

re: #46 andres

Oh, I’m definitely waiting to see where things go from here.

Spoiler

In the film, it’s revealed that the deaths of Howard Stark and his wife were staged by HYDRA under the cover of SHIELD. That’s reason enough for Stark to get back into his suits and fight. Also, there’s the whole bit about both Stark and his tower being targets when the Hellicarriers were getting ready to launch.

I could easily see Tony taking over the Avengers. Bankrolling them, giving them a place to stay, etc. now that SHIELD has been decimated.

102 Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2014 4:15:45am

re: #101 Lidane

Oh, I’m definitely waiting to see where things go from here.

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Spoiler

Which s part of what happens in the comics. If you find yourself rewatching The Avengers anytime soon, take a closer look at the blueprints of Stark Tower during the ending Fury & Hill’s ending dialogue. It clearly shows what looks like a Quinjet hanger in the upper floors.

103 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 4:22:14am

re: #57 William Barnett-Lewis

The problem with this idea is - where do the X-Men fit in? They were always marvel’s black sheep in one way or the other even while being the best of their universe otherwise.

Short answer: They don’t. The X-Men are tied to a different studio, so in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that we’re seeing with the Avengers is separate. They don’t have mutants. One of the end credits in Captain America: The Winter Solider makes this clear as day:

Spoiler

In the mid-credits scene, you see Baron von Strucker who is one of the leaders of HYDRA. He not only has Loki’s scepter, but he and another officer talk about the human experimentation they’ve been doing. The failed subjects were all killed and their bodies hidden. The two successes are “the twins” (Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch) that he also calls “miracles”.

The implication is that instead of them being Magneto’s kids that were born with their powers, they’re HYDRA creations.

104 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 4:22:37am

Yes, we still believe in magickal incantations:

Butler County Commissioners OK display of ‘In God We Trust’ in meeting room

105 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:32:41am

re: #104 freetoken

Yes, we still believe in magickal incantations:

Butler County Commissioners OK display of ‘In God We Trust’ in meeting room

These are the assholes who are pushing that.

charitablegivingfoundation.org

106 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:36:48am

So, I take it Eddie accepted his boss’s answer?

30m
Edward Snowden submits video question to Putin’s televised session, asks about surveillance and if Russia intercepts and stores communications - @KiritRadia
see original on twitter.com

Russian President Vladimir Putin tells Snowden Russia is not carrying out mass collection of citizen’s data - @Reuters
end of alert

107 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 4:38:58am

re: #106 Justanotherhuman

So, I take it Eddie accepted his boss’s answer?

30m
Edward Snowden submits video question to Putin’s televised session, asks about surveillance and if Russia intercepts and stores communications - @KiritRadia
see original on twitter.com

Russian President Vladimir Putin tells Snowden Russia is not carrying out mass collection of citizen’s data - @Reuters
end of alert

Oh, well, if Vlad says so, then it must be true!

//

108 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:40:53am

And there is no other boss.

109 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 4:42:40am

In post-Soviet Russia, warrant demands you!!!

110 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 4:45:19am
111 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:45:57am

This guy is very good. He wrote a book about today’s Russia.

editor at agentura.ru, author of ‘The New Nobility. The Restoration of Russia’s Security State and the Enduring Legacy of the KGB’.

Moscow * agentura.ru

(sorry wrong tweet—changed)

112 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 4:46:24am
113 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 4:49:56am

Well I am back after 2 days offline enjoying the holidays with my loved ones.

Did the world get stupider?

114 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 4:50:28am

re: #113 Pie-onist Overlord

Did the world get stupider?

Unfortunately, yes.

115 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 4:52:17am

Apparently, the US Constitution no longer applies in either Nevada or Louisiana, the lunar eclipse started the Last Days, and Glenn Greenwald has found yet another way to deceive.

So yes, stupider.

116 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 4:52:20am

re: #113 Pie-onist Overlord

Well I am back after 2 days offline enjoying the holidays with my loved ones.

Did the world get stupider?

You betcha! Case in point:

117 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:52:33am

re: #113 Pie-onist Overlord

Well I am back after 2 days offline enjoying the holidays with my loved ones.

Did the world get stupider?

Haha, is the Pope Catholic? : )

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 4:53:55am

re: #116 Lidane

You betcha! Case in point:

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I make way much more money than Zedushka, if we both had to live on his shitty Social Security disability allotment, we’d be fucked.

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 4:54:54am

To answer my own question, yes, much stupider in 2 days than I could have believed even possible:
HURR HURR!!!!! TEH MILLIONAIRE RANCHER NEEDS UR MONEYS!!!!!!

120 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:55:10am

re: #116 Lidane

You betcha! Case in point:

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First of all, she presumes all women are looking for husbands…

I always made less than men, but I wasn’t looking for a husband, either, not after I’d already had one and didn’t like the arrangement.

121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 4:55:49am

re: #116 Lidane

You betcha! Case in point:

Phyllis Schlafly claims women who are paid the same as men won’t find husbands

In other words: women who do not learn to regard themselves as property will never find an owner.

122 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 4:56:36am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

To answer my own question, yes, much stupider in 2 days than I could have believed even possible:
HURR HURR!!!!! TEH MILLIONAIRE RANCHER NEEDS UR MONEYS!!!!!!

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Is that the awful band Palin was promoting? Eeeccchhh.

123 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 5:01:49am

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

Is that the awful band Palin was promoting? Eeeccchhh.

Christian rock?

124 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 5:04:31am

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

Is that the awful band Palin was promoting? Eeeccchhh.

Oh, yes, they wrote the theme song for her POS show. No use asking her for the fare, though. She’s a known tight-wad. With Palin, you pay—always.

“Like Creed but with more Constitution”

thedailybeast.com

125 Timothy Watson  Apr 17, 2014 5:08:35am

re: #124 Justanotherhuman

Based on the way Palin dresses nowadays, is she trying to get a guest spot on “Sons of Anarchy”?

126 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 5:09:35am

So I sent off thank you notes for the job interviews I had last week. Heard back tonight from the manager in Seattle I did the phone screen with after my in person interviews here in Austin. This is the reply I got:

It was nice speaking with you as well. Thanks for the time and for addressing some of my concerns.

In terms of next steps, you should hear from HR soon but we are slightly behind schedule. We have a final candidate coming into the office early next week so I would hope to move forward soon after that.
Thanks for checking in.

GAH. And this is for a position he said had urgency behind it, and that they wanted to hire ASAP. At this rate it’s going to be May before I start working again assuming I get the job. I’m going to have to figure out something with my landlord. I’d asked to pay him at the end of this month figuring I would’ve started working by now. *sigh*

127 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 5:09:37am

HURR HURR U STUPID POORS IF UR SO STUPID UR JRRB IS AT WALMART UR TOO STUPID 2 GET PAID AT ALL!!! GET ANOTHER JRRB U LAZY MOOCHER!!!!!

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 5:10:33am

re: #126 Lidane

So I sent off thank you notes for the job interviews I had last week. Heard back tonight from the manager in Seattle I did the phone screen with after my in person interviews here in Austin. This is the reply I got:

GAH. And this is for a position he said had urgency behind it, and that they wanted to hire ASAP. At this rate it’s going to be May before I start working again assuming I get the job. I’m going to have to figure out something with my landlord. I’d asked to pay him at the end of this month figuring I would’ve started working by now. *sigh*

Why do they have another candidate? This is bullshit.

129 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 5:12:33am

re: #125 Timothy Watson

Based on the way Palin dresses nowadays, is she trying to get a guest spot on “Sons of Anarchy”?

Nowadays? She’s always tried for the “Dominatrix” edge with her various leathers.

130 Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2014 5:13:12am

re: #117 Justanotherhuman

Haha, is the Pope Catholic? : )

There is some debate about that:

en.wikipedia.org

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 5:14:30am
132 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 5:17:01am

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Ah yes, reminds me of the good ol’ days of the Vatican, when everything was cloak and daggers.

Literal cloak and daggers.

133 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 5:20:04am

Sad:

SALSA GREAT CHEO FELICIANO DIES IN CAR CRASH AT 78

Wikipedia can be scary fast sometimes:

Cheo Feliciano

134 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 5:21:41am

Good morning lizards!

135 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 5:22:17am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

Why do they have another candidate? This is bullshit.

I’m more worried about money than anything else. As it is I’m stretched beyond thin. The landlord and his family are nice, though. I’m sure we can work out a deal for me to pay for this month and next month once I do start working so I can get caught up. I just feel so irritated that it’s taking this long for something that’s a temporary contract gig upfront with the potential to become more down the line.

You’d think the “temporary” part of the job description would make it easier to hire someone, not harder. It’s basically a way to have an extended trial run with a person before you make them a full-time employee.

136 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 5:26:14am

One of my favorites:

MP3 Audio

137 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 5:28:32am
138 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 5:29:22am

WaPo trying to scare us:

What would a Mitch McConnell-led Senate look like?

139 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 5:30:17am

So the big brouhaha this morning seems to be Sen. Warren’s account of Summer’s telling her she can be either be an insider or an outsider rather than the obvious choice, by looking at her career path, that Warren made?

I am befuddled with the slacktavist, dudebro fascination with her and wanting her to run for President.

What has she accomplished as Senator?
She is horrible on the stump and does not come across well on television, and she had a hard time ousting a republican in Massachusetts.
What am I missing here?

140 freetoken  Apr 17, 2014 5:33:06am

re: #139 b.d.

What am I missing here?

1. - Anybody But Hillary.
2. - DNC being unable to come up with long lists of potentials to position 4 years ahead of primaries.

141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 5:33:46am

re: #137 Pie-onist Overlord

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Over 99% of people who receive EBT are moochers, welfare queens or system-gaming surfers! I researched that on Fox news!!!

/

142 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 5:35:59am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Over 99% of people who receive EBT are moochers, welfare queens or system-gaming surfers! I researched that on Fox news!!!

/

Druggies! You forgot the druggies!!

//

143 sagehen  Apr 17, 2014 5:36:19am

re: #139 b.d.

So the big brouhaha this morning seems to be Sen. Warren’s account of Summer’s telling her she can be either be an insider or an outsider rather than the obvious choice, by looking at her career path, that Warren made?
(snip)
What am I missing here?

I think it ties in to that book last year about how sexist Obama’s econ team is, a “hostile working environment.”

This is the place to remind everyone that Sheila Bair and Tim Geithner *hate* each other with the white hot passion of a thousand fiery suns. This predates Obama’s election, they disagree about everything. Also, that Sheila was always right and Tim was always wrong, and my single biggest disappointment with Obama is that he took Geithner’s side in every dispute. (ex: she wanted to take over the big banks, break them into little pieces, close down the loser pieces, then sell the functioning bits back out into the private sector at sizes that could be FDIC’d at will. She also had some foreclosure abatement ideas.)

144 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 5:39:03am

re: #140 freetoken

1. - Anybody But Hillary.
2. - DNC being unable to come up with long lists of potentials to position 4 years ahead of primaries.

Pretty much, yeah.

I like Elizabeth Warren, but she wouldn’t make a good nominee for POTUS. She’d be a decent choice for VP, or over at Labor.

145 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 5:46:47am

re: #144 Lidane

Pretty much, yeah.

I like Elizabeth Warren, but she wouldn’t make a good nominee for POTUS. She’d be a decent choice for VP, or over at Labor.

Agree, great VP material, also a good political move, but please not Hilary.

If she is nominated, it will get so shrill and ugly that I will have to abandon my favorite pastime of following politics…

146 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 5:51:00am

Go away, already!

147 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 5:51:06am
148 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 5:57:16am

Edward Snowden Just Asked Vladimir Putin About Surveillance on Live TV

“Does Russia intercept, store, or analyze in any way the communications of millions of individuals?” Snowden asked, in a rare public-ish appearance. “And do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement investigations can justify placing societies, rather than subjects, under surveillance?”

“Mr. Snowden, you are a former agent, a spy, I use to be working for an intelligence service; we are going to talk one professional language,” Putin replied through a translator. “Our intelligence efforts are strictly regulated by our law. So our special forces can use special equipment as they intercept phone calls or follow someone online. You have to get court permission to stalk a particular person. We don’t have mass system of such interception. And according to our law it cannot exist.”

“Of course special services have to use technical means to respond to [terrorists’] crimes,” Putin said. “Of course we do some efforts like that. But we do not have a mass scale uncontrollable effort like that. I hope we won’t do that. We don’t have as much money as they have in the States, we don’t have these technical devices that they have in the States. Our special services, thank God, are strictly controlled by the society and the law, and are regulated by the law.”

149 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 5:57:45am

re: #147 NJDhockeyfan

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Unlike most cathedrals in Spain, construction of this cathedral had to await the acquisition of the Nasrid kingdom of Granada from its Muslim rulers in 1492; while its very early plans had Gothic designs, such as are evident in the Royal Chapel of Granada by Enrique Egas, the construction of the church in the main occurred at a time when Spanish Renaissance designs were supplanting the Gothic regnant in Spanish architecture of prior centuries. Foundations for the church were laid by the architect Egas starting from 1518 to 1523 atop the site of the city’s main mosque; by 1529, Egas was replaced by Diego de Siloé who labored for nearly four decades on the structure from ground to cornice, planning the triforium and five naves instead of the usual three. Most unusually, he created a circular capilla mayor rather than a semicircular apse, perhaps inspired by Italian ideas for circular ‘perfect buildings’ (e.g. in Alberti’s works). Within its structure the cathedral combines other orders of architecture. It took 181 years for the cathedral to be built. (my emphasis)

Subsequent architects included Juan de Maena (1563-1571), followed by Juan de Orea (1571-1590), and Ambrosio de Vico (1590-?). In 1667 Alonso Cano, working with Gaspar de la Peña, altered the initial plan for the main façade, introducing Baroque elements. The magnificence of the building would be even greater, if the two large 81 meter towers foreseen in the plans had been built; however the project remained incomplete for various reasons, among them, financial.

en.wikipedia.org

150 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:00:02am

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Edward Snowden Just Asked Vladimir Putin About Surveillance on Live TV

Did you notice the links I posted above? Do you think anyone believes this bullshit?

151 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 6:01:23am
152 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 6:04:59am

Kidnapping update: 115 Nigeria schoolgirls still missing after kidnap: Principal

A Nigerian school principal on Thursday denied reports from the military that most of the students kidnapped from her school by Islamists were now safe, saying that only 14 of the 129 taken had escaped.

“The report from the military is not true,” Asabe Kwambura told AFP, referring to an official claim that only eight of the girls were still being held. She specified that Wednesday’s report from the area’s Governor Kashim Shettima that only 14 had safely returned home was “correct.”

153 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 6:06:23am

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

Did you notice the links I posted above? Do you think anyone believes this bullshit?

in situations like this it’s hard to tell what people really believe.

154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 6:10:18am

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Kidnapping update: 115 Nigeria schoolgirls still missing after kidnap: Principal

In Phoenix, police kidnap prostitutes and bring them to churches to “save their souls”, In Nigeria Islamists kidnap schoolgirls to do the same.

155 GunstarGreen  Apr 17, 2014 6:12:03am

re: #137 Pie-onist Overlord

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Similar to that old saw 50% of people don’t even pay taxes!!!1!1!1, conveniently leaving out that those are largely the people that make at or below the poverty line — i.e., there’s nothing to tax in the first damn place.

Republicans love them some numbers in the complete absence of context. Context is a messy thing that makes their bullshit statistics look stupid, so they prefer to leave it out of the discussion.

156 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 6:13:11am

Joe Walsh’s first (and natural) instinct is to play the race-card (twice). But remember, libruls are the race-baiters.

157 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:13:59am

re: #144 Lidane

Pretty much, yeah.

I like Elizabeth Warren, but she wouldn’t make a good nominee for POTUS. She’d be a decent choice for VP, or over at Labor.

Look into her background. Until she was elected Senator from MA, she had held no elective office. I’ll give her credit for intelligence and work she did on TARP and CFPB, but she’s a relative newby to elective office.

Meanwhile, she voted Republican well into her 40s, and is probably as moderate as any academic might be. People often change, but they always retain some of their former selves.

thedailybeast.com

“For all those quaking on the right at the sight of an ascendant Warren, rest easy. Warren’s no lefty. In fact, Warren was a registered Republican into her 40s. When it comes to ideology, Warren makes for a rotten heir to Kennedy.

“I was a Republican because I thought that those were the people who best supported markets. I think that is not true anymore,” Warren says. “I was a Republican at a time when I felt like there was a problem that the markets were under a lot more strain. It worried me whether or not the government played too activist a role.”

“Did she vote for Ronald Reagan, who ushered in much of the financial deregulation which Warren has devoted her life to stopping? “I’m not going to talk about who I voted for,” she says.”

The left has swung so far to the right to compensate for the reactionary elements in our country that this is not particularly an unusual move, but Warren is just not as “left” as the dudebros figure her to be, even though she claims to be the intellectual wisdom behind the Occupy movement. That’s a pretty tall claim, IMHO.

“I created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do,” she says. “I support what they do.”

158 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:17:10am

re: #155 GunstarGreen

Similar to that old saw 50% of people don’t even pay taxes!!!1!1!1, conveniently leaving out that those are largely the people that make at or below the poverty line — i.e., there’s nothing to tax in the first damn place.

Republicans love them some numbers in the complete absence of context. Context is a messy thing that makes their bullshit statistics look stupid, so they prefer to leave it out of the discussion.

How many of those complainers can say they paid this much in taxes?

President Obama and Vice President Biden’s 2013 Tax Returns

whitehouse.gov

Wonder how much Mitt paid? : )

159 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:18:55am
160 Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2014 6:22:33am

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

Warren is no Bernie Sanders or Robert Reich, but she’s well to the economic left of Hillary (Walmart BOD) Clinton. The issue is probably moot, though. The calendar just doesn’t show much room for a Warren run.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 6:29:24am
162 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 6:30:48am
163 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 6:31:22am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

Literally

164 Bubblehead II  Apr 17, 2014 6:32:10am

Surprise, surprise , surprise. Idiot bridge sniper wanna be was from Idaho.

Paged.

165 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 6:32:26am

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

“I was a Republican because I thought that those were the people who best supported markets. I think that is not true anymore,” Warren says. “I was a Republican at a time when I felt like there was a problem that the markets were under a lot more strain. It worried me whether or not the government played too activist a role.”

Very much my attitude well into the 1990’s…

166 Political Atheist  Apr 17, 2014 6:32:41am

Putin: Russia May Invade Ukraine to Protect Locals

HT LA Times, Paged for comment

167 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 17, 2014 6:33:20am

#150 Justanotherhuman

Did you notice the links I posted above? Do you think anyone believes this bullshit?

KT is concerned so it’s ok…

168 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 6:34:00am

Someone tell Stockman that Alberta is not in U.S.

169 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 6:34:56am

re: #162 Pie-onist Overlord

I would like to invite Cruz to China, to drink some of Henan province’s lovely water, or breath Beijing’s refreshing air, or eat a pork chop cut from one of the pigs found floating dead in the Yangtze River. Regulations? Naah, we don’t need those.

170 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 6:35:23am

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Edward Snowden Just Asked Vladimir Putin About Surveillance on Live TV

Hahahahahahaha:

Mr. Snowden, you are a former agent, a spy… - Vlad Putin

171 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 6:35:56am

re: #169 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I would like to invite Cruz to China, to drink some of Henan province’s lovely water, or breath Beijing’s refreshing air, or eat a pork chop cut from one of the pigs found floating dead in the Yangtze River. Regulations? Naah, we don’t need those.

FREEDUMB INDUSTRIES!!!!!!!! PERTECK ARE FREEDUMBZ!!!!!!

172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 6:37:12am

re: #168 Pie-onist Overlord

Someone tell Stockman that Alberta is not in U.S.

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no brain, meet no-brainer…

173 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 6:38:34am

re: #169 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I would like to invite Cruz to China, to drink some of Henan province’s lovely water, or breath Beijing’s refreshing air, or eat a pork chop cut from one of the pigs found floating dead in the Yangtze River. Regulations? Naah, we don’t need those.

But that is what these people want. Environmental regulations as good as China’s. Security service regulations like Russia’s. Religious interactions like Africa. To adopt “best practices” from around the world.

:p ///

174 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 6:39:44am
175 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 6:42:23am

re: #173 Feline Fearless Leader

Considering many of them anticipate the end of the world, Book of Revelation style, they probably don’t give a shit about the benefits of environmental regulations, limits on law enforcement and domestic surveillance, and religious tolerance. Those are only for the damned who get to slog around on earth, while all the “good people” fly up to heaven.

176 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:43:23am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Warren is no Bernie Sanders or Robert Reich, but she’s well to the economic left of Hillary (Walmart BOD) Clinton. The issue is probably moot, though. The calendar just doesn’t show much room for a Warren run.

Yes. It’s also amazing how much rhetoric is dropped once some people actually get to DC and understand how things work on the ground.

I’m a great admirer of Reich’s, I have his book about his tenure as Labor Secy in DC, called “Locked in the Cabinet” and it’s a thoroughly enjoyable read.

amazon.com

Woops—

177 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 6:43:32am

Haha:

178 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 6:47:38am
179 fern01  Apr 17, 2014 6:47:42am

re: #125 Timothy Watson

Based on the way Palin dresses nowadays, is she trying to get a guest spot on “Sons of Anarchy”?

She’s always dressed inappropriately for every occasion - for a few short months the GOP minders provided the dress sense needed for a country wide campaign - thereafter back to the real thing.

180 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 6:48:21am

re: #175 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Considering many of them anticipate the end of the world, Book of Revelation style, they probably don’t give a shit about the benefits of environmental regulations, limits on law enforcement and domestic surveillance, and religious tolerance. Those are only for the damned who get to slog around on earth, while all the “good people” fly up to heaven.

Where the Overmind uses them for light snacks.
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Edit: Which is also what makes the finish of Clarke’s _Childhood’s End_ so interesting. Is merging with the Overmind worth the complete loss of individuality? And what if the process is not one of conscious choice?

181 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:56:39am

re: #179 fern01

She’s always dressed inappropriately for every occasion - for a few short months the GOP minders provided the dress sense needed for a country wide campaign - thereafter back to the real thing.

This is from the 2008 campaign…

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182 abolitionist  Apr 17, 2014 6:57:28am

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Edward Snowden Just Asked Vladimir Putin About Surveillance on Live TV

He has balls. For now.

183 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 6:58:00am

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

First of all, she presumes all women are looking for husbands…

I always made less than men, but I wasn’t looking for a husband, either, not after I’d already had one and didn’t like the arrangement.

So, if a woman makes nothing, any man making a $1/day will look good to her.

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 6:58:16am

Kragar, wanna chew toy?

185 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 6:58:20am

re: #182 abolitionist

He has balls. For now.

Vlad: Mr Snowden, would you like extra syrup on your pancakes?
/

186 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 6:58:29am

re: #181 Justanotherhuman

This is from 2010 (not 2008), an appearance in AZ w/McCain. Sorry.

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187 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 6:58:54am

re: #127 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U STUPID POORS IF UR SO STUPID UR JRRB IS AT WALMART UR TOO STUPID 2 GET PAID AT ALL!!! GET ANOTHER JRRB U LAZY MOOCHER!!!!!

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Hey turning down legal money in any form is bad for profits. That is a stupid, stupid thing to do.

188 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 6:59:13am

re: #186 Justanotherhuman

Hard to tell from the photo, but is McCain laughing, or crying?
;p

189 Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2014 7:01:07am

re: #180 Feline Fearless Leader

Where the Overmind uses them for light snacks.
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Edit: Which is also what makes the finish of Clarke’s _Childhood’s End_ so interesting. Is merging with the Overmind worth the complete loss of individuality? And what if the process is not one of conscious choice?

In ‘Childhood’s End’, if I remember correctly, it was the Overlords who guided human evolution to the phase where humanity would be able to merge with the Overmind, so arguably, it wasn’t really a conscious choice. It was the result of the Overlords directly intervening in human affairs.

190 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:01:27am

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

So, if a woman makes nothing, any man making a $1/day will look good to her.

That’s what Schlafly seems to be saying. Actually, every man I met, no matter how “lowly” his job, made more than I did.

Women still only make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. In the 21st century. Forty years after we fought for equal pay.

Men need to work on themselves; I’m tired of doing it.

191 Timothy Watson  Apr 17, 2014 7:01:29am

re: #181 Justanotherhuman

This is from the 2008 campaign…

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Christ, never saw that back then. I just noticed that she keeps making speeches, etc. in jeans and I’m like “WTF?”

I just know that I have a friend (male) who ran for a political office at the county level (a rural county too) and he caught crap from a supporter for showing up to an event, where he gave a short speech, wearing jeans.

192 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:01:29am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Agree, great VP material, also a good political move, but please not Hilary.

If she is nominated, it will get so shrill and ugly that I will have to abandon my favorite pastime of following politics…

shrill and ugly would be attributes you’d also apply to a male candidate?

193 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:02:21am

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

Hard to tell from the photo, but is McCain laughing, or crying?
;p

Hard to tell since McCain obviously thinks with his dick, but I feel sure he was laughing.

194 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:02:54am

re: #191 Timothy Watson

Christ, never saw that back then. I just noticed that she keeps making speeches, etc. in jeans and I’m like “WTF?”

I just know that I have a friend who ran for a political office at the county level (a rural county too) and he caught crap from a supporter for showing up to an event, where he gave a short speech, wearing jeans.

That was in 2010—I corrected; it was my error.

195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 7:04:11am

re: #192 FemNaziBitch

shrill and ugly would be attributes you’d also apply to a male candidate?

I mean that if Hillary is nominated, the political debate will likely grow even more shrill and ugly than it is now, which is right about at my threshhold of tolerability.

196 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:04:22am

re: #190 Justanotherhuman

That’s what Schlafly seems to be saying. Actually, every man I met, no matter how “lowly” his job, made more than I did.

Women still only make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. In the 21st century. Forty years after we fought for equal pay.

Men need to work on themselves; I’m tired of doing it.

me too

197 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:05:34am

Hey, I’m no fan of Palin, but how she dresses isn’t the issue. It’s what comes out of her mouth.

People tried to make an issue of whether or not Obama wore a flag pin.

Don’t buy into the crap.

198 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 7:05:46am

re: #182 abolitionist

He has balls. For now.

I wonder if the Pulitzer effects the chances of him being charged if caught. Politically it might be more difficult for Obama to prosecute him because it might look personal, it might be easier for a future president to bring him up on charges but Snowden has a big fan club and some friendly members of the press. Putting him on trial is going to cause some problems.

199 b_sharp  Apr 17, 2014 7:06:06am

re: #197 FemNaziBitch

Hey, I’m no fan of Palin, but how she dresses isn’t the issue. It’s what comes out of her mouth.

People tried to make an issue of whether or not Obama wore a flag pin.

Don’t buy into the crap.

Thank you.

200 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:06:37am

re: #190 Justanotherhuman

That’s what Schlafly seems to be saying. Actually, every man I met, no matter how “lowly” his job, made more than I did.

Women still only make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. In the 21st century. Forty years after we fought for equal pay.

Men need to work on themselves; I’m tired of doing it.

This way, we can pay men even less!

Control women in order to control men -basically. It’s a tool powerful men use to control less powerful men.

201 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 7:09:03am

Again? This happened last year too.
Ore. officials drain reservoir after man urinates in it

202 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:09:04am

Rick Perry, or one of them IMHO, campaigned in a cowboy hat. I think he also wears cowboy boots.

WE need to stop this judge ye by what ye wear bullshit.

Especially when it comes to women.

203 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:09:09am

re: #197 FemNaziBitch

Hey, I’m no fan of Palin, but how she dresses isn’t the issue. It’s what comes out of her mouth.

People tried to make an issue of whether or not Obama wore a flag pin.

Don’t buy into the crap.

The only reason how she dresses enters into the conversation is because she’s a hypocrite, dispensing her version of rightwing christianity on one hand and acting like the right’s version of a sex symbol on the other.

She knows exactly what she’s doing and plays it for all it’s worth.

204 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 7:10:17am

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

In ‘Childhood’s End’, if I remember correctly, it was the Overlords who guided human evolution to the phase where humanity would be able to merge with the Overmind, so arguably, it wasn’t really a conscious choice. It was the result of the Overlords directly intervening in human affairs.

I think the Overlord’s role was watching over the delicate period where (part of) humanity transformed into a merge-ready state. No evolution as such since it was less than 200 years from the Overlord appearance until the merge.

205 Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2014 7:10:22am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Again? This happened last year too.
Ore. officials drain reservoir after man urinates in it

I actually thought the story was a repost from the previous incident.

206 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:10:56am

re: #203 Justanotherhuman

The only reason how she dresses enters into the conversation is because she’s a hypocrite, dispensing her version of rightwing christianity on one hand and acting like the right’s version of a sex symbol on the other.

She knows exactly what she’s doing and plays it for all it’s worth.

Yes, and use that not what she is wearing when arguing against her.

IIRC, wearing “casual” clothing was a hallmark of her campaign for
Governor, so she is being consistent. It’s not a new thing.

207 Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2014 7:11:03am

re: #204 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the Overlord’s role was watching over the delicate period where (part of) humanity transformed into a merge-ready state. No evolution as such since it was less than 200 years from the Overlord appearance until the merge.

Yep, you’re right. It’s been almost 30 years since I read it, but that sounds correct.

208 Timothy Watson  Apr 17, 2014 7:11:10am

re: #203 Justanotherhuman

I was going more after the fact the way she dresses just demonstrates how unbelievably unserious she is about everything.

209 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:12:19am

Sounds as though they may be at an impasse. Or not, depending on what “negotiations” we’re talking about.

Negotiations between Ukraine, Russia, US and EU have been ongoing for nearly 5 hours in Geneva - @margbrennan

210 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:12:21am

re: #208 Timothy Watson

I was going more after the fact the way she dresses just demonstrates how unbelievably unserious she is about everything.

You can’t draw that conclusion.

If it were so, Bill Gates wouldn’t be what he is now.

211 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 7:12:59am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

I actually thought the story was a repost from the previous incident.

I did at first as well but it happened again.

212 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 7:15:07am

re: #198 Killgore Trout

I wonder if the Pulitzer effects the chances of him being charged if caught. Politically it might be more difficult for Obama to prosecute him because it might look personal, it might be easier for a future president to bring him up on charges but Snowden has a big fan club and some friendly members of the press. Putting him on trial is going to cause some problems.

Nitpick. The Pulitzer for Public Service went to the New York Times Washington Post and the Guardian. Not to Snowden, Greenwald, etc.

Then again, you knew that already.

Edit: Correction made on who got the Pulitzer

213 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:15:34am

I hate the new google maps. It won’t let me go side to side, up or down, only zoom in or out.

what am I doing wrong.

214 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 7:17:00am

re: #213 FemNaziBitch

I hate the new google maps. It won’t let me go side to side, up or down, only zoom in or out.

what am I doing wrong.

Did you try to click and drag on the map?

215 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:17:05am

re: #206 FemNaziBitch

Yes, and use that not what she is wearing when arguing against her.

IIRC, wearing “casual” clothing was a hallmark of her campaign for
Governor, so she is being consistent. It’s not a new thing.

I think the way a person dresses is a big part of the “image” they present. She wants people to talk about her, her narcissism demands it, even when she’s not a serious candidate for anything or has anything worth listening to that would actually contribute to public discourse.

216 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:17:20am

Why does a woman have to be physically attractive in order to be acceptable as a candidate?

A man certainly doesn’t have to be.

217 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:18:16am

re: #215 Justanotherhuman

I think the way a person dresses is a big part of the “image” they present. She wants people to talk about her, her narcissism demands it, even when she’s not a serious candidate for anything or has anything worth listening to that would actually contribute to public discourse.

I think she is a celebrity/personality and she knows it. She’s using what she has to make money.

nothing more, nothing less.

218 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 7:18:16am

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

Why does a woman have to be physically attractive in order to be acceptable as a candidate?

A man certainly doesn’t have to be.

So that the male candidates running against her can claim she only gets votes due to her being attractive. Of course.

219 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:19:16am

re: #214 Feline Fearless Leader

Did you try to click and drag on the map?

Gawd, you are awesome!

220 abolitionist  Apr 17, 2014 7:20:15am

re: #213 FemNaziBitch

I hate the new google maps. It won’t let me go side to side, up or down, only zoom in or out.

what am I doing wrong.

May be a permissions issue with NoScript and/or some ad/popup blocker tool; guessing.

221 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:21:09am

Hillary is 68 years old.

Can we stop paying attention to her looks and look at her record?

222 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:23:13am

GAWD, Sarah Palin was born in the same year I was. She is now 50.

Her looks are all she has, she uses them to deflect from her record.

Hillary’s detractors use her looks to deflect from her record.

Strange how that works.

223 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:24:19am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

me too

I think women (mostly Moms) have enabled men for far too long. I still have friends who do for their sons what they wouldn’t do for their daughters.

224 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:25:16am

bbl

225 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 7:25:18am

Rodan/Trajan 75 is STILL alive…..and STILL stalking?! HOLY SHIAT! Wow. I haven’t heard from that douche since the old Thinkprogress days. I can’t believe he hasn’t taken a self-induced dirt nap. His only life-long accomplishments are racism and weird obsessive stalking. He seriously needs therapy….this is not hyperbole.

edit: I was reading an entry below that included stalker beau

226 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:28:30am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Rodan/Trajan 75 is STILL alive…..and STILL stalking?! HOLY SHIAT! Wow. I haven’t heard from that douche since the old Thinkprogress days. I can’t believe he hasn’t taken a self-induced dirt nap. His only life-long accomplishments are racism and weird obsessive stalking. He seriously needs therapy….this is not hyperbole.

edit: I was reading an entry below that included stalker beau

He called me a troll once, many, many moons ago.

I haven’t forgotten.

227 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 7:29:03am

really, bbl

228 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 7:29:49am

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

I see assholery is alive and well, from Walsh to Greenwald.

Cheeeeez.

And now, Putin is trying to blame his moves in Ukraine on NATO.

More: Moscow’s intervention in Crimea was, in part, influenced by NATO enlargement, Putin says - @Reuters
end of alert

1h

NATO enlargement is squeezing Russia out of Black Sea region, Russia’s Putin says - @Reuters
end of alert

Richard Engle was on MSNBC the other night and he was saying one of Putin’s methods to rile up the Russian sympathizers in Eastern Ukraine and at home is to call Western Ukrainians Nazis. So, I guess Euromaiden was propped up by untrustworthy Germans and other Euros like the Dutch, the Polish, etc., …all Nazis!

Engle said Russian still respond to the scare of the name Nazi due to all they went through in WW2.

However, all one needs to do is look at how Vlad is going about this and discover Vlad isn’t all that scared of Nazis since he seems to be follow quite a few of their tactics.

Little fucker is turning into quite the asshole. I wonder if some of the rich Russians that have made money in less than ideal ways want Vlad fucking around like that? I wonder if some within Russia wouldn’t mind seeing him gone.

229 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 7:30:43am

re: #226 FemNaziBitch

He called me a troll once, many, many moons ago.
.

Badge of honor.

230 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 7:31:05am

re: #184 Pie-onist Overlord

Senior citizens who paid into the system for decades as workers who built businesses, worked for a living are now takers? Really?

Moochers?

Everyone pays taxes - payroll taxes, sales and use taxes, motor fuel taxes, and excise taxes. Sure, some people are exempt from income tax, because they don’t make enough money, but they’re paying taxes nonetheless.

You can’t escape not paying any tax.

231 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 7:41:37am

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

Go away, already!

[Close to 15 inches of #snow in Ashland, WI…and still snowing. Thanks to @clkoval for the photo.]

Poor ‘hoops.

I hope he is doing well. Every once in awhile when he posts I feel so bad for him. I hope depression doesn’t set in an really hurt him. I’d hate to see him go all Jack Nicholson in the Shining.

232 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 17, 2014 7:43:13am

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

I think women (mostly Moms) have enabled men for far too long. I still have friends who do for their sons what they wouldn’t do for their daughters.

Come to China to see the little emperors all at sea when they come to university and have to fend for themselves.

In rural areas, families will bend over backwards to send their sons to college. For girls, not so much. Some of my female students have told me their parents, especially fathers, viewed sending them to college as a waste of time and money.

One of those students just landed a job at an oil refinery in Tanzania. It’s far away, but the pay is better than any starting salary in China for an English major. I’d say she had the last laugh.

233 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 7:46:38am

re: #231 ObserverArt

Poor ‘hoops.

I hope he is doing well. Every once in awhile when he posts I feel so bad for him. I hope depression doesn’t set in an really hurt him. I’d hate to see him go all Jack Nicholson in the Shining.

The second question is whether he is in an area that goes straight from wall-to-wall snow to wall-to-wall mosquitoes and black flies.

234 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 7:50:43am

re: #232 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Come to China to see the little emperors all at sea when they come to university and have to fend for themselves.

In rural areas, families will bend over backwards to send their sons to college. For girls, not so much. Some of my female students have told me their parents, especially fathers, viewed sending them to college as a waste of time and money.

One of those students just landed a job at an oil refinery in Tanzania. It’s far away, but the pay is better than any starting salary in China for an English major. I’d say she had the last laugh.

That attitude is not that far out of date in the US. My father’s family married off the daughters once they finished high school and only arranged for the son to get further education.

235 The War TARDIS  Apr 17, 2014 7:54:15am

re: #234 Feline Fearless Leader

And a significant portion of the US wants to go back to that.

236 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 7:56:56am

re: #230 lawhawk

Senior citizens who paid into the system for decades as workers who built businesses, worked for a living are now takers? Really?

Moochers?

Everyone pays taxes - payroll taxes, sales and use taxes, motor fuel taxes, and excise taxes. Sure, some people are exempt from income tax, because they don’t make enough money, but they’re paying taxes nonetheless.

You can’t escape not paying any tax.

My grandson’s first paycheck (on $8.50/hr plus a little extra for OT & Sundays) for 2 wks had over $165 taken out for both wks of work for SS & Medicare and extra in taxes. (I corrected that since I only know how much his takehome was.) That was working around 100 hrs and his net take home was $575, iirc. I don’t have the exact figures at hand, but if he had earned $900 (w/the OT, etc), they would have taken out $325, or 36%. And as far as I know, he does claim 2 exemptions on his withholding. If it weren’t for the EIC, he would probably get very little back in taxes.

237 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 8:00:29am
Vladimir Putin denied that Russia employs NSA-style mass surveillance programs after fielding a question from Edward Snowden via Skype-style video during what seems to have been a televised mass town hall event.

Here’s a transcript of what the two said, as best we can tell. (Translation of Putin’s remarks is from the audio on the state-affiliated RT network’s broadcast):

SNOWDEN: I’d like to ask about mass surveillance of online communications and the bulk collection of private records by intelligence and law enforcement services. Recently in the United States two independent White House investigations as well as a federal court all concluded that these programs are ineffective in stopping terrorism. They also found that they unreasonably intrude into the private lives of ordinary citizens—individuals who have never been suspected of any wrongdoing or criminal activity. And that these kinds of programs are not the least intrusive means available to such agencies for these investigative purposes. Now, I’ve seen little public discussion of Russia’s own involvement in the policies of mass surveillance, so I’d like to ask you: does Russia intercept, store, or analyze, in any way, the communications of millions of individuals, and do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement investigations can justify placing societies, rather than subjects, under surveillance? Thank you.

PUTIN: Mr. Snowden, you are a former agent, a spy. I used to be working for an intelligence service. We are going to talk one professional language. First of all, our intelligence efforts are strictly regulated by our law—so, how special forces can use this kind of special equipment as they intercept phone calls or follow someone online. And you have to get a court permission to stalk a particular person. We don’t have a mass system of such interception, and according to our law it cannot exist. Of course we know that criminals and terrorists use technology for their criminal acts and of course special services have to use technical means to respond to their crimes, including those of terrorist nature. And of course we do some efforts like that, but we do not have a mass scale uncontrollable efforts like that. I hope we won’t do that, and we don’t have as much money as they have in the States and we don’t have these technical devices that they have in the States. Our special services, thanks god, are strictly controlled by the society and by the law and are regulated by the law.

238 Snarknado!  Apr 17, 2014 8:04:01am

re: #237 NJDhockeyfan

That is hilarious. In a sick, twisted sort of way.

239 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 8:04:09am

Via Balloon Juice, RE: SNOWDEN

by Betty Cracker

Okay, it’s one thing to claim that, as a matter of conscience, you absconded with classified documents to expose overreach at the NSA. It’s quite another to crawl up in Vladimir Putin’s lap and nestle your muzzle up against his nut sack.

balloon-juice.com

240 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 8:04:10am

re: #237 NJDhockeyfan

Yet their parliament has no say-so in the matter. The FSB is strictly controlled by Putin and his henchmen.

WTF did Snowjob think he’d gain from asking such questions? Since I don’t think he’s that naive, it had to be a set up.

241 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 8:07:01am

NATO sending part of its naval rapid reaction force to the Baltic Sea as part of measures to step up the defense of its eastern European allies in response to the Ukraine crisis, the alliance says - @Reuters

They won’t be able to drive while using, but handling a gun? No problem.

Report: Controversial language removed from proposed Illinois medical marijuana rules that would bar legal gun owners from becoming cannabis-using patients - @AP

242 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 8:08:10am
243 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 8:12:15am

re: #242 b.d.

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Snowden is becoming the well-worn Kremlin prop.

244 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 8:12:37am

re: #235 The War TARDIS

And a significant portion of the US wants to go back to that.

I think a lot of them never left it in the first place.

245 FemNaziBitch  Apr 17, 2014 8:18:19am
Now we have Mike Huckabee shamelessly ascribing the desire to have insurance cover birth control—something that it has always done, by the way—to women’s inability to “control our libido.” Now anti-contraception protesters are a major part of the March for Life, making it undeniable that “life” is just a code word for efforts to punish and control women by taking away their ability to manage their fertility. Far from denying the anti-sex motivations of their movement, anti-choicers are beginning to own it loudly and proudly.

Also Paged.

I think I’m going to try to stay off the internet for a while.

Have a wonderful day all.

246 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 8:18:20am

Wasn’t it mentioned around here just the other day that Putin had people looking into any information he can find on the Euromaiden protesters? Does any rational thinking person not think he is using all kinds of methods to probe all sorts of media to find as many Euromaiden leaders as possible?

Hell, he probably has Eddie working on it. And when Eddie can’t hack his way to help find out, maybe Vlad will grow a bit tired of Snowden. And then what?

247 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 8:21:32am

Both of these guys are immediately in the running for the Golden Raspberry Award…

248 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 8:21:50am

re: #237 NJDhockeyfan

PUTIN: Mr. Snowden, you are a former agent, a spy. I used to be working for an intelligence service. We are going to talk one professional language.

Very interesting sentence. I wonder how that all fits in with Greenwald and all the glibertarian dudebros?

Seems Vlad agrees with many in the US government. Eddie and him are kindred spirits.

249 Snarknado!  Apr 17, 2014 8:26:37am

re: #240 Justanotherhuman

Yet their parliament has no say-so in the matter. The FSB is strictly controlled by Putin and his henchmen.

WTF did Snowjob think he’d gain from asking such questions? Since I don’t think he’s that naive, it had to be a set up.

Actually, I think he is that naive (I get the impression that they don’t teach anything in schools except how to pass achievement tests).

Which doesn’t keep it from being a setup, of course.

250 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 8:34:24am

re: #249 Snarknado!

Actually, I think he is that naive (I get the impression that they don’t teach anything in schools except how to pass achievement tests).

Which doesn’t keep it from being a setup, of course.

There are people who want to believe that Putin’s Russia is somehow less oppressive and repressive than America under Obama, which makes them very receptive to such “information”.

251 Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 17, 2014 8:36:01am

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

And their daughters wouldn’t EXPECT them to do the things they do for their sons.

I was raised by a single mother, and she always told me , “Nobody owes you a living, and don’t expect that anyone will ever take care of you. Know how to take care of yourself.”

252 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 8:36:55am

The parliament in Russia has little oversight over FSB operations, and you’d have to be stunningly naive to think that they aren’t spying on their own people. They’ve got a huge terror threat, one which could have reared its ugly head during the Sochi games but didn’t. They had several major attacks in the months leading up to the games, and the Russian security forces have routinely rounded up suspects and gone after terror groups inside Russia using all the means at their disposal.

To think that Russia doesn’t have the means to carry out mass surveillance is naive, and Snowden’s response shows he’s a tool of the Kremlin (as he’s been from the get-go).

Wikileaks too has been uncritical of how the Russian security services operate, even though they do so with far less oversight and far more brutality than their opposite number in the US - especially when it comes to operations that involve citizens of their own countries residing within their own countries. That’s not exactly a surprise either, since Wikileaks has done all it could to get all kinds of sensitive documents about US intel operations and internal workings released, but has shown no interest in going and digging into the FSB and what they’ve been doing.

That willful blindness is not without purpose. It’s meant to hamstring the US and undermine US national security, while giving the Russians a strategic and tactical advantage in the spy game (the Russians get all kinds of dirt about US spycraft, means, methods, and operations, while the US sees those operations and spycraft disrupted, resulting in costs to replace, update, invent new measures).

253 Snarknado!  Apr 17, 2014 8:38:28am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There are people who want to believe that Putin’s Russia is somehow less oppressive and repressive than America under Obama, which makes them very receptive to such “information”.

Yes, and don’t forget the Magic Balance Fairy. I was born into the height of the cold war, and that nasty old bat was fully active (Gulags! but WWII internment camps! Dissidents! but US left (fringe) organizations don’t get equal access to media! And on and on).

254 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 8:39:48am
255 Snarknado!  Apr 17, 2014 8:40:55am

re: #252 lawhawk

That’s not exactly a surprise either, since Wikileaks has done all it could to get all kinds of sensitive documents about US intel operations and internal workings released, but has shown no interest in going and digging into the FSB and what they’ve been doing.

And they’d risk a lot more than prison for that.

256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 8:41:16am

re: #253 Snarknado!

Yes, and don’t forget the Magic Balance Fairy. I was born into the height of the cold war, and that nasty old bat was fully active (Gulags! but WWII internment camps! Dissidents! but US left (fringe) organizations don’t get equal access to media! And on and on).

Putin’s bare chest has become a projection surface on which people see whatever they want in it.

257 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 8:44:34am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Putin’s bare chest has become a projection surface on which people see whatever they want in it.

When Putin rips the shirt open the “S” seen there stands for “Soviet” and not “Superman”.
/

258 GunstarGreen  Apr 17, 2014 8:45:02am

re: #245 FemNaziBitch

Also Paged.

I think I’m going to try to stay off the internet for a while.

Have a wonderful day all.

Nothing is more terrifying for a WASP male than a powerful, self-determining female that has control over her own destiny. It’s important to keep in mind that the ascendency of the self-determining woman, even in the US, is incredibly recent — within the last 60 years or so. It’s similar, yet of course importantly different, from the racial issue. There are still people alive today who are from a time before the uppity women/blahs had any real say in anything, to include the course of their own lives, and a lot of those people wish for us to go back to before that pandora’s box was opened.

They’re wrong and stupid of course, but until their generation dies out, it’ll be an ongoing issue because, unfortunately, we tend to put people in that age bracket at the wheels of power.

259 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 8:47:00am

re: #254 Charles Johnson

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Hey, GG! When are you going to start criticizing the Brazilian govt for its actions, and how it treats millions of its own citizens right outside your own door while you live in relative luxury?

Alternatively, we could move completely out of the country, buy a house in Brazil, and never completely reclaim our citizenship, just what’s convenient for us, like you have.

So STFU—when you become a real participating citizen of the US again, living here, working here, you can start us criticizing again.

260 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 8:50:16am

re: #259 Justanotherhuman

Not a word from him as Rio’s favelas are cleared, tens of thousands displaced, and the country spends billions it doesn’t have on sports venues that will be used once and likely fall into disrepair once the Rio games are over.

And that doesn’t count the deaths at several venues during construction, or the fact that the IOC is actually concerned that Brazil wont meet deadlines for completing venues in time for the Games - construction on some locations hasn’t even started yet.

261 iossarian  Apr 17, 2014 8:50:57am

re: #258 GunstarGreen

Nothing is more terrifying for a WASP male than a powerful, self-determining female that has control over her own destiny. It’s important to keep in mind that the ascendency of the self-determining woman, even in the US, is incredibly recent — within the last 60 years or so. It’s similar, yet of course importantly different, from the racial issue. There are still people alive today who are from a time before the uppity women/blahs had any real say in anything, to include the course of their own lives, and a lot of those people wish for us to go back to before that pandora’s box was opened.

They’re wrong and stupid of course, but until their generation dies out, it’ll be an ongoing issue because, unfortunately, we tend to put people in that age bracket at the wheels of power.

I think it’ll take more than a couple of generations, unfortunately. There’s a lot of cultural expectations around the role of women that are adjusting much more slowly than the political/workplace rights issues.

Having said that, the trend is in the right direction. With vigilance and effort, that will hopefully continue.

262 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 8:57:01am

re: #260 lawhawk

Not a word from him as Rio’s favelas are cleared, tens of thousands displaced, and the country spends billions it doesn’t have on sports venues that will be used once and likely fall into disrepair once the Rio games are over.

And that doesn’t count the deaths at several venues during construction, or the fact that the IOC is actually concerned that Brazil wont meet deadlines for completing venues in time for the Games - construction on some locations hasn’t even started yet.

Exactly. GG doesn’t have an empathic bone in his body. That wouldn’t satisfy his massive ego.

263 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:02:40am
264 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:06:10am

Holy crap! And I was complaining about having to wear a sweater since morning here was in the 30s.

20 inches of snow reported near North Branch, Minn. - @NWSTwinCities
read more on weather.gov

265 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 9:08:32am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

re: #252 lawhawk

Both of these are spot on. I think Lawhawk’s assertion of one being “stunningly naive” that Russia has somehow more restrictions on domestic spying than the US is too kind. I’d personally go with “Stupid fucking idiot”, but that’s me.

266 Snarknado!  Apr 17, 2014 9:10:13am

re: #265 Mattand

Both of these are spot on. I think Lawhawk’s assertion of one being “stunningly naive” that Russia has somehow more restrictions on domestic spying than the US is too kind. I’d personally go with “Stupid fucking idiot”, but that’s me.

Works for me, too.

267 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:10:29am

Oh, sweet justice!

First Lady Michelle Obama to give commencement address at Topeka, Kan., high school on May 17, 60 years after Brown vs Board of Education decision - @jmartNYT
end of alert

268 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:16:05am

Canada to send fighter jets to Poland in response to Ukraine crisis - @globalnews
read more on globalnews.ca

269 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 9:18:11am

re: #267 Justanotherhuman

Oh, sweet justice!

First Lady Michelle Obama to give commencement address at Topeka, Kan., high school on May 17, 60 years after Brown vs Board of Education decision - @jmartNYT
end of alert

Another decision lots of people would like to see overturned…

270 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:20:39am

Yeah, it only had to affect you personally for you to “evolve”. You’re still a sorry POS for arguing the case in the first place.

Prop 8 lawyer’s views on gay marriage evolving

bigstory.ap.org

271 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 17, 2014 9:23:58am

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap! And I was complaining about having to wear a sweater since morning here was in the 30s.

20 inches of snow reported near North Branch, Minn. - @NWSTwinCities
read more on weather.gov

Officially 13.5” here in Hayward, WI. Heavy wet nasty snow. 50 degrees and rain predicted for Saturday. I’ll be looking at 2 - 3” more water in the basement… :( (rental so I can’t really _do_ much about it).

272 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 17, 2014 9:24:53am

re: #265 Mattand

I’d personally go with “Stupid fucking useful idiot”, but that’s me.

FTFY.

273 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:26:17am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Another decision lots of people would like to see that will never be overturned…

FTFY

274 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 9:28:42am

LOL, I’ve been called “Union Thug” “Libtard” and “Communist” but this is the first time anyone ever called me a “Lawyer”

275 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:29:46am

re: #274 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, I’ve been called “Union Thug” “Libtard” and “Communist” but this is the first time anyone ever called me a “Lawyer”

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I thought greed was good.

276 Snarknado!  Apr 17, 2014 9:30:00am

re: #274 Pie-onist Overlord

They’re not known for checking facts (you may have noticed :).

277 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:30:31am

re: #267 Justanotherhuman

Oh, sweet justice!

First Lady Michelle Obama to give commencement address at Topeka, Kan., high school on May 17, 60 years after Brown vs Board of Education decision - @jmartNYT
end of alert

It’s a fitting choice though I’m sure the usual suspects will be furious because
Michelle and her husband hate America or something like that.

278 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:31:03am

re: #276 Snarknado!

They’re not known for checking facts (you may have noticed :).

Not intended to be a factual statement. Ah so like how Jon Kyl understand what Planned Parenthood does.

279 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 9:31:10am

Somebody pointed out this map is from 2008 and now the wingnuts are all HURR HURR!!!!!
Can’t find anything more recent.

280 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:36:09am

re: #279 Pie-onist Overlord

Somebody pointed out this map is from 2008 and now the wingnuts are all HURR HURR!!!!!
Can’t find anything more recent.

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Not only is it higher in really red states, it’s also really low in bright blue states. Fact is despite what they believe, conservatives are willing to and do take as much and perhaps even more government assistance than liberals. The difference is your average liberal doesn’t go around berating those who do. Your average con takes welfare money and then calls someone in the same lot as he is a moocher because he’s an insecure asshole. It’s not at all unlike the whites that owned little land in the antebellum South defending slavery and slave owners.

281 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 9:37:34am

BUT THE KREMLIN DOESN’T HAVE SURVEILLANCE DOCS GLENN!!! PUTIN SAID SO!!

282 GunstarGreen  Apr 17, 2014 9:38:36am

re: #270 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, it only had to affect you personally for you to “evolve”. You’re still a sorry POS for arguing the case in the first place.

Prop 8 lawyer’s views on gay marriage evolving

bigstory.ap.org

Yeah, it’s funny how people will be all DOWN WITH THE < INSERT UNDESIRABLE THING HERE > !!11!!1!! right up until it affects them. Then they call for “understanding”.

Fuck ‘em. If he were my father, I’d tell him to fuck off and stay the hell away from my wedding, Formally Not Invited. You went to court to argue that what I’m doing should be illegal? Then piss off.

283 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 9:40:22am

re: #274 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, I’ve been called “Union[ Thug” “Libtard” and “Communist” but this is the first time anyone ever called me a “Lawyer”

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Unless Racer X paid more than $21K in taxes last year, he has no grounds to comment…

284 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:41:47am

re: #282 GunstarGreen

Yeah, it’s funny how people will be all DOWN WITH THE < INSERT UNDESIRABLE THING HERE > !!11!!1!! right up until it affects them. Then they call for “understanding”.

Fuck ‘em.

I feel ya but I guess this is better than say someone like Alan Keyes who disowned his daughter upon finding out she was gay. What upsets me though is probably what I imagine upsets you is that guys like Cooper never think about how this issue effects people until they see it effect them directly. Perhaps this is the crux of the article I saw here the other day that said essentially that most conservatives have a problem with empathy and that’s something that unites the conservative mind from even the sane conservatives to the batshit insane ones.

285 Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2014 9:43:00am

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

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But didn’t Putin say the Ukrainians were harassing the pro-Russians, that is why he has to go into the Ukraine. Could he be lying? I haven’t looked into his soul like others have, but I am sure it glows like gold. At least I know he and the other Politburo of Russia won’t be spying on this post.

286 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:45:02am

Back on original topic though, Biden always looks like he’s having fun. I used to think Joe Biden was perhaps a little arrogant though I did like him. I don’t really think he’s particularly arrogant anymore. He seems to really enjoy his role as VP and he seems to enjoy working with the president. It’s said that when a presidential candidate makes his VP decision, that’s a good way you can tell how serious to take him and I really though I was pulling for my then governor Tim Kaine to get the spot thought Biden was a great choice for Obama and infinitely better than the wackjob that McCain ended up picking and heartless dick Romney chose.

287 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 9:45:23am

Found a Tax Foundation map from 2010.

288 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 9:46:08am

Aaaaaand. The Russians are still lying.

289 GunstarGreen  Apr 17, 2014 9:46:41am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

I feel ya but I guess this is better than say someone like Alan Keyes who disowned his daughter upon finding out she was gay. What upsets me though is probably what I imagine upsets you is that guys like Cooper never think about how this issue effects people until they see it effect them directly. Perhaps this is the crux of the article I saw here the other day that said essentially that most conservatives have a problem with empathy and that’s something that unites the conservative mind from even the sane conservatives to the batshit insane ones.

That’s exactly what it is, except that I don’t cast is as an inability to consider it, but as a refusal to consider it. Short version: They don’t give one single shit about anybody other than themselves, and their positions ‘evolve’ once it actually affects them.

“Fuck you, I got mine” is the mindset, and it enrages me to unhealthy levels. It is not acceptable to have that mindset when it comes to other people.

290 Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2014 9:49:29am

re: #75 Kragar

I never signed a contract so why should I pay my income taxes?
///

More like…I walk into your house, sit down on your couch and watch your TV, then say: “I didn’t sign a contract, why should I pay for your cable?”

291 blueraven  Apr 17, 2014 9:50:00am

re: #281 b.d.

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BUT THE KREMLIN DOESN’T HAVE SURVEILLANCE DOCS GLENN!!! PUTIN SAID SO!!

No Glenn, he shouldn’t be there in the first place! It is his own fault that he is Putin’s bitch now.

also, this

292 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 9:50:21am

re: #289 GunstarGreen

That’s exactly what it is, except that I don’t cast is as an inability to consider it, but as a refusal to consider it. Short version: They don’t give one single shit about anybody other than themselves, and their positions ‘evolve’ once it actually affects them.

“Fuck you, I got mine” is the mindset, and it enrages me to unhealthy levels. It is not acceptable to have that mindset when it comes to other people.

I feel ya totally. I mean damn did Cooper even think “What if one of my children or someone I loved were gay and wanted to get married to someone they loved and enjoy the same benefits as me?” You’re right. They just don’t think about it because it’s fuck you, I got mine and it’s really the mentality about conservatism that I hate the most outside the hypocritical rantings about “big government” all the while they want to use the same government to enforce their morality.

293 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 9:51:40am

re: #274 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, I’ve been called “Union Thug” “Libtard” and “Communist” but this is the first time anyone ever called me a “Lawyer”

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That’s because you know stuff.

: )

294 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 9:54:16am

HURR HURR!!!!!!UR WRONG LIBTARD!!!!!

295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 9:55:27am

re: #294 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!!UR WRONG LIBTARD!!!!!

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do you enjoy arguing with fenceposts?

296 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 9:57:13am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

do you enjoy arguing with fenceposts?

I’m going to do some actual work.

297 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 9:59:00am
298 Bulworth  Apr 17, 2014 9:59:52am

The map clearly says Filers w/Zero or Negative Income Tax Liability. Period.

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Confirmed. FACT. Period.

299 Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2014 10:01:29am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

do you enjoy arguing with fenceposts?

Fenceposts are useful…do not besmirch fenceposts.

The question I’d love to see him answer: yes, the map is a little old. What in the past 6 years as happened that would have you believe that those trends are reversed?

Alternatively, I’ve shown you my evidence. (And since Pie is apparently a lawyer now, she could say “I’ve made a prima facie showing that red states are moochers”). Burden is on you to show otherwise.

300 Bulworth  Apr 17, 2014 10:01:54am

Although Biden is doing what every white guy on Instagram does: The “hey, look! I have a black friend” pic

Any idea what former one-term congressteabagger is talking about here? Who lets these guys do social media?

301 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 10:03:25am

re: #300 Bulworth

Although Biden is doing what every white guy on Instagram does: The “hey, look! I have a black friend” pic

Any idea what former one-term congressteabagger is talking about here? Who lets these guys do social media?

I don’t know. If Walsh knew anything about social media, he’d know that Instagram is reserved for pictures of lunch.

302 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 10:05:29am
303 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 10:05:50am
304 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:06:19am

Well now.

305 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 10:08:26am
306 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 10:11:35am

10 days out of the office, I did a detailed pass down of what needed to be monitored and had to be followed up on while I was out.

The fucking bastards didn’t do one fucking thing.

“We didn’t understand it, so we left it for you. Oh, and we got confused by another issue, so we broke your systems. Can you get them fixed now that you’re back?”

307 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:14:00am

re: #302 wrenchwench

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We son the Cold War because we could write stuff in space that Russians could not erase!

308 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 10:15:05am
309 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 10:18:00am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Devastating enough that CNN cut away from the plane search to talk about it for a little bit.

310 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:18:48am
311 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 10:19:40am

re: #310 Gus

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When the political becomes personal.

312 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 10:20:26am

Did a bit of searching on this, and apparently it was a real thing.

313 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:21:10am

re: #311 wrenchwench

When the political becomes personal.

“Hey man, I was representing my client.” //

314 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 10:23:01am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did a bit of searching on this, and apparently it was a real thing.

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‘Honest Fleshiness of Form’, my new euphemism non-euphemism.

315 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:24:32am
316 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:25:08am

“Hey man, we’re crazy but Frazier Glenn Miller isn’t one of us.” //

317 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:25:34am

“Us” that is.

318 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:26:27am
319 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 10:27:34am
320 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 10:27:52am
321 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 10:28:54am
322 GunstarGreen  Apr 17, 2014 10:29:28am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did a bit of searching on this, and apparently it was a real thing.

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It was. In Ye Olden Tymes, being overweight was a sign of wealth, because only wealthy people could afford enough food to get fat. Overweight was seen as desirable because it meant that person had easy access to a ton of food.

This was, of course, back when the vast majority of what we had was real food, and real food isn’t very calorie-dense. Now that we have easy mass-manufacturing of ultra-calorie-dense junk food, and the science of human weight management is understood to the point that you can spend a crapload of money on equipment and memberships and trainers to get and stay in shape, being overweight is more often a sign of low class rather than high class.

But yes, we have always been doing stupid things to our bodies in the name of vanity to achieve current societal standards of beauty.

323 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 10:31:16am

HURR HURR MOOCHERZ!!!!!!

324 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 10:31:43am

re: #316 Gus

No true Klansmen/white supremacists.

325 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 10:32:03am

Back to work.

326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:32:08am

re: #322 GunstarGreen

also, in the days before central heating, you wanted a lot of natural insulation and energy reserves to keep warm. And to tide you over the next famine…

327 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:32:50am

re: #323 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR MOOCHERZ!!!!!!

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fencepost.

he believers everyone should be armed and act as their own law enforcement.

328 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 10:33:00am

re: #321 darthstar

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Not the Onion? Wow.

329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:34:26am

re: #324 lawhawk

No true Klansmen/white supremacists.

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“We agree with his message, but not his actions (namely, getting caught)”

330 GunstarGreen  Apr 17, 2014 10:34:43am

re: #323 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR MOOCHERZ!!!!!!

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I’d bet dollars to donuts that you can pick any random “gub’mint wurker”, and they’ll be working far harder than any Twit that has time to argue on Twitsville during business hours.

331 Bulworth  Apr 17, 2014 10:36:33am

“Hey man, we’re crazy but Frazier Glenn Miller isn’t one of us.” //

No true klansman, etc.

//

332 jaunte  Apr 17, 2014 10:39:09am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

That ad may have been faked. The font that “RESPECTFULLY TELL THE LADIES” is set in was designed in 1928 linotype.com.

333 iossarian  Apr 17, 2014 10:40:26am

re: #332 jaunte

That ad may have been faked. The font that “RESPECTFULLY TELL THE LADIES” is set in was designed in 1928 linotype.com.

Obviously made up.

334 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 10:41:02am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

also, in the days before central heating, you wanted a lot of natural insulation and energy reserves to keep warm. And to tide you over the next famine…

And pale complexions and soft hands meant that you weren’t out in the fields doing menial labor or hand-toughening tasks like laundry.

335 iossarian  Apr 17, 2014 10:41:12am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did a bit of searching on this, and apparently it was a real thing.

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I don’t mean to be rude but there is no way in hell that thing is real.

“Respectfully tell the ladies: get plump”

???

336 Alyosha  Apr 17, 2014 10:43:11am

Maybe the Klan might profit from some kind of patterning on their robes so we know which ones are anti-Semites.
Maybe they ought to adopt the kilt since they’re always showing their arses.

Apologies to any Scots. True or otherwise.
Hatters gonna hate.

337 EmmaAnne  Apr 17, 2014 10:43:13am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Agree, great VP material, also a good political move, but please not Hilary.

If she is nominated, it will get so shrill and ugly that I will have to abandon my favorite pastime of following politics…

I am not down with that argument. It was made in 2008 - Obama was supposed to be the candidate who didn’t make the wingnuts into frothing crazies. And for people who were paying attention in the 90s, Clinton was supposed to be the president they could accept (moderate Southern white guy). Whoever is nominated will be covered in crazy froth, so I am not interested in letting them choose our candidates.

338 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:44:56am

re: #337 EmmaAnne

I am not down with that argument. It was made in 2008 - Obama was supposed to be the candidate who didn’t make the wingnuts into frothing crazies. And for people who were paying attention in the 90s, Clinton was supposed to be the president they could accept (moderate Southern white guy). Whoever is nominated will be covered in crazy froth, so I am not interested in letting them choose our candidates.

I simply mean from a personal viewpoint, I would most likely vote for her (cannot imagine the GOP nominating a candidate I could support) but I would just have to stop following politics.

339 Ian G.  Apr 17, 2014 10:45:00am

re: #127 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U STUPID POORS IF UR SO STUPID UR JRRB IS AT WALMART UR TOO STUPID 2 GET PAID AT ALL!!! GET ANOTHER JRRB U LAZY MOOCHER!!!!!

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Damn, I wish I owned a grocery store in the same town as this one. I’d put up a sign that says “PLEASE SPEND YOUR EBT DOLLARS HERE!!! MORE PROFIT FOR MY BUSINESS AND LESS FOR THAT WINGNUT TWIT’S!!!”

340 iossarian  Apr 17, 2014 10:45:59am

re: #336 Alyosha

Maybe the Klan might profit from some kind of patterning on their robes so we know which ones are anti-Semites.
Maybe they ought to adopt the kilt since they’re always showing their arses.

Apologies to any Scots. True or otherwise.
Hatters gonna hate.

I would have thought that hatters would be quite keen on the Klan, at least if they’re also in the nylon hood business.

341 Romantic Heretic  Apr 17, 2014 10:47:15am

re: #232 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Come to China to see the little emperors all at sea when they come to university and have to fend for themselves.

In rural areas, families will bend over backwards to send their sons to college. For girls, not so much. Some of my female students have told me their parents, especially fathers, viewed sending them to college as a waste of time and money.

One of those students just landed a job at an oil refinery in Tanzania. It’s far away, but the pay is better than any starting salary in China for an English major. I’d say she had the last laugh.

In a cyberpunk RPG I designed years ago I built my own future for it.

One thing I put in was how certain castes, the wealthy and powerful ones, in India were dying out. They used sex selection to make sure mostly sons were born. They wouldn’t marry outside their caste. They were wealthy enough to try cloning but even fifty years from now it was a very iffy proposition.

I’m of the opinion that is a very likely future for certain cultures on our planet.

342 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 10:48:00am

HURR HURR GOVT EMPLOYEES IS ALL TEH MOOCHERS!!!!!!

343 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 10:48:17am

That idiot is blocked.

344 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 10:49:25am

I wonder if Snowden had “♥ Putin” tattooed on his left or right cheek?

345 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 10:49:59am
346 Alyosha  Apr 17, 2014 10:50:51am

re: #340 iossarian

Yeah, ‘hooders gonna hood’ didn’t have the same ring to it ;)

347 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:51:46am

Phuket.

348 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 10:52:47am

New Dudebro conspiracy theory after the shameful Snowden appearance:

RIGHT! IT WAS A MASTERSTROKE OF GENIUS TO BOX PUTIN IN!!

349 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 10:53:58am

re: #348 b.d.

New Dudebro conspiracy theory after the shameful Snowden appearance:

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RIGHT! IT WAS A MASTERSTROKE OF GENIUS TO BOX PUTIN IN!!

Journalism.

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 10:59:24am

re: #332 jaunte

That ad may have been faked. The font that “RESPECTFULLY TELL THE LADIES” is set in was designed in 1928 linotype.com.

Could be. I couldn’t find the original ad, but I did find other ads and mentions for “FAT TEN U FOODS” using parts of the same ad copy in three issues of the 1895 Indianapolis News

351 makeitstop  Apr 17, 2014 11:03:03am

re: #348 b.d.

New Dudebro conspiracy theory after the shameful Snowden appearance:

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FTR, I think Snowden w/this and follow-up may have been TRYING to get Putin on record. Technique used by Soviet dissidents.

RIGHT! IT WAS A MASTERSTROKE OF GENIUS TO BOX PUTIN IN!!

They’ll go to any lengths to defend that traitorous little fucker.

352 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 11:13:27am

CNN has found a disaster worthy of pushing MH370 off the top of the page. The ferry disaster in the waters off South Korea has done the trick for the moment. Nearly 300 still missing, many of them kids in high school who were on a school trip. Rampant speculation about why the ship capsized. Whether the victims may be able to survive in air pockets trapped inside the ship. Why the captain fled the ship before so many others on board. Whether foul play was the cause. Etc.

No actual facts.

And families are just as anguished over the whole incident because they don’t know what’s happened to their loved ones.

353 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 17, 2014 11:15:24am

re: #339 Ian G.

Damn, I wish I owned a grocery store in the same town as this one. I’d put up a sign that says “PLEASE SPEND YOUR EBT DOLLARS HERE!!! MORE PROFIT FOR MY BUSINESS AND LESS FOR THAT WINGNUT TWIT’S!!!”

NPR dis a series about how business (including Walmart) cater to the EBT crowd.

354 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 12:02:05pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Could be. I couldn’t find the original ad, but I did find other ads and mentions for “FAT TEN U FOODS” using parts of the same ad copy in three issues of the 1895 Indianapolis News

For many people, few things are harder to grasp than the idea that present-day US standards for human attractiveness have not existed unchanging for all time and in all cultures.

355 Areopagitica  Apr 17, 2014 2:05:38pm

It saddens me that some dumb people in my state actually voted this idiot into congress. Thank god, once it was discovered what a d-bag he truly was, from his unpaid child support to his verbally assaulting constituents who dared to ask him questions at town hall meetings, his district booted his butt out.


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