Putin Trots Out Edward Snowden for Pathetic Propaganda Op

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Meanwhile, today in Russia Vladimir Putin hauled Edward Snowden out of whatever dingy state apartment he’s been living in, for a high profile propaganda show that was utterly laughable.

Snowden, who has been given temporary asylum in Russia, connected via video link and asked Putin: “Does Russia intercept, store or analyze in any way the communications of millions of individuals?”

Putin began his response by telling Snowden that “you are a former agent, a spy. I used to work for an intelligence service [the KGB]. We are going to talk one professional language.”

Then the Russian president, who in recent weeks has claimed he did not send troops into Crimea only to now admit that he did and insists there are no Russian military personnel in eastern Ukraine even though reporters have heard at least one man there introduce himself as a Russian officer, made the case that:

“You have to get court permission to stalk a particular person. We don’t have a mass system of such interception, and according to our law it cannot exist.”

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243 comments
1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:54:19am

In (post-) Soviet Russia, search warrant demands YOU!

2 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 10:54:22am

From downstairs:

New Dudebro conspiracy theory that it was all a move of Wile E. Coyote level genius by Snowden to box Putin in:

3 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 10:55:34am

And of course…

Greenwald Lashes Back At Critics Who Call Snowden A Russian Propagandist

4 jaunte  Apr 17, 2014 10:55:47am

“We don’t have a mass system of such interception, and according to our law it cannot exist.”

“In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like in your country.”

5 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 10:56:50am
6 Bulworth  Apr 17, 2014 10:57:12am
You have to get court permission to stalk a particular person. We don’t have a mass system of such interception, and according to our law it cannot exist.

Well, gosh, that’s good enough for me. Anyone who doesn’t believe him is just another croc-wearing, authoritarian-loving, lickspittle.

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7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 10:58:02am

Putin’s chest has become a projection surface on which dudebros see freedom and wingnuts see Law and Order.

8 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 10:58:33am

“There is no mass surveillance in Russia. It is a decadent Western phenomenon.”

9 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 10:59:05am

Snowden is nothing but Putin’s pet. Enjoy your “life”, Ed.

10 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 10:59:28am

re: #3 Kragar

And of course…

Greenwald Lashes Back At Critics Who Call Snowden A Russian Propagandist

On both Twitter and cable news, Greenwald has mowed down those who have accused Snowden of being in cahoots with Putin.

“Mowed down?” WTF?

11 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 10:59:56am

The same way Jeff Gannon used to try and box in Scotty McClennan.

12 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:01:09am

We’re finding out that quite a few journalists admire Glenn Greenwald not in spite of, but because he’s a gigantic asshole.

13 S'latch  Apr 17, 2014 11:01:51am

re: #3 Kragar

Greenwald would probably also deny that Russian President Vladimir Putin is a Russian Propagandist.

14 jaunte  Apr 17, 2014 11:02:56am
On both Twitter and cable news, Greenwald has mowed down those who have accused Snowden of being “in cahoots” with Putin.

He doesn’t have much argument against Snowden being used by Putin.

15 Alyosha  Apr 17, 2014 11:06:12am

I’m wondering if the idea Snowden is languishing in a lousy apartment building isn’t the same mistake many made when they believed bin Laden was hooked up to a dialysis machine in some dingy, fly-blown cave. Not to compare the two unduly, of course.
They dealt in different types of damage.

Maybe Snowden’s pretty comfy and this bit of theatre is just his rent for the month.

16 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 11:08:05am

And after the TV show…

17 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 11:08:20am

Dkos is confused

Snowden Asks Putin on Live TV If He Spies on Russians

I consider myself a “Snowden supporter,” and yet I’m not sure how I feel about this latest development. Pro or con, what are your thoughts on the subject? .

Top ratred comment so far…

doesn’t bother me (11+ / 0-)

man sacrificed his life to bring to light what we needed to know.

I’m still thankful

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 11:08:46am

re: #16 Kragar

And after the TV show…

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Russian horses are really tiny.

19 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 11:10:12am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russian horses are really tiny.

In Russia, horse mount you (unless you are Putin)

20 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:11:10am
21 nines09  Apr 17, 2014 11:11:58am

re: #16 Kragar

And after the TV show…

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“Now I have cozy Dacha, you like see, no?”

22 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 11:13:57am

I think I saw a StinkProgess chart somewhere where it listed Snowden as, like, the 4th biggest Putin ball licker ever.

23 nines09  Apr 17, 2014 11:14:32am

Putin is old fashioned. He carries his tools on horseback.

24 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 11:14:50am

re: #2 b.d.

From downstairs:

New Dudebro conspiracy theory that it was all a move of Wile E. Coyote level genius by Snowden to box Putin in:

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I saw both this story and this idiotic “Snowden’s got Putin right where he wants him” idea over at Ars Technicha.

Surprisingly, most of the commenters at Ars (pretty much a “Snowden asylumed for our sins” crowd) are essentially shaking their heads that anyone would believe this.

25 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 11:18:20am

re: #24 Mattand

I saw both this story and this idiotic “Snowden’s got Putin right where he wants him” idea over at Ars Technicha.

Surprisingly, most of the commenters at Ars (pretty much a “Snowden asylumed for our sins” crowd) are essentially shaking their heads that anyone would believe this.

Heh!

Hey Snowden, save this for your files!

Address
Ecuadorian Embassy in Moscow, Russia
Gorokhovsky Pereulok No. 12
103064 Moscow
Russia
————————————————————————————————————————
Website embajada-ecuador.ru
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Office Hours 10.00-18.00
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Head of Mission Patricio Chávez, Ambassador

26 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:18:55am

You are a former agent, a spy. Please, try the polonium pancakes, they’re delicious…

27 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:19:23am

re: #23 nines09

Putin is old fashioned. He carries his tools on horseback.

Stealing that…and the Putin/Snowden pic.

28 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 11:20:05am

re: #16 Kragar

And after the TV show…

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Hey, your horse has 3 assholes….

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29 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:20:35am

re: #23 nines09

Putin is old fashioned. He carries his tools on horseback.

30 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 11:23:03am

Russia doesn’t have a surveillance system to do mass intercepts? Really?

The FSB is more heavily constrained than the CIA or NSA when it comes to domestic intel operations? Really?

There aren’t enough bridges to Brooklyn to sell to cover this. Oh wait, I’ll do bulk discount.

Russian wiretapping is quite different from US domestic wiretapping laws, particularly on oversight and use of the intel gathered:

In the U.S., law enforcement or intelligence agencies must first receive a court order permitting wiretapping. They send that warrant to telephone operators and Internet providers, which are then required by law to intercept the requested information and forward it to the respective government agencies. In Russia, Federal Security Service officers are also required to obtain a court order to eavesdrop, but once they have it they are not required to present it to anybody except their superiors in the FSB.

While the U.S. has checks and balances that regulate how the state eavesdrops on its citizens, Russia has none.

The FSB has control centers that are connected by cables directly to operators’ computer servers. To monitor particular phone conversations or Internet communications, an FSB agent only has to enter a command into the control center located in the local FSB headquarters. That practice is in place throughout the country. Every regional FSB headquarters is connected by cables to all telephone operators and Internet providers in the region.

That system, known as the Law Enforcement Support System, or SORM, is actually a holdover from the country’s Soviet totalitarian past and was developed by a KGB research institute in the mid-1980s. Recent technological advances have simply been used to fine-tune the system. Now, the SORM-1 system captures telephone and mobile phone communications, SORM-2 intercepts Internet traffic, and SORM-3 collects information from all forms of communication, providing long-term storage of all information and data on subscribers.

But Russia’s general approach to surveillance dates back to the Soviet era and has changed little since then. It has none of the checks and balances that are present in the West. FSB agents wanting to add a new phone number to monitor do not need to obtain a new court order and send it to the telephone operator or Internet provider. All they have to do is enter the required information into the control system in their office.

Meanwhile, the Russian system, like its U.S. counterpart, is expanding very rapidly. According to information obtained from Russia’s Supreme Court, the number of intercepted telephone conversations and e-mail messages has doubled over a period of six years, from 265,937 in 2007 to 539,864 in 2012. What’s more, these statistics do not include all of the counterintelligence eavesdropping on foreigners, the main category of wiretapping activity for the NSA in the U.S.

In contrast to the U.S., SORM is also used to wiretap the Kremlin’s political opponents with full support from the courts, which rubber-stamp requests for warrants. This became evident on Nov. 12, when the Supreme Court upheld the right of the authorities to eavesdrop on the opposition. In that case, the court recognized the legality of an FSB operation to wiretap conversations of Yekaterinburg city lawmaker Maxim Petlin because he had participated in a protest rally at which the FSB was criticized.

At the same time, however, Russia doesn’t have the advanced technology to intercept global telecommunications traffic to the extent that it is done in the U.S., but that does not mean Russia is not eavesdropping on communications beyond its borders.

31 Political Atheist  Apr 17, 2014 11:23:57am

Now after that display can we finally agree Snowden is a traitor in addition to liar thief and spy?

32 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 11:24:09am

re: #26 darthstar

No, please take this umbrella. Oops. Sorry about that pinprick. Didn’t realize the tip was sharp. /

33 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:24:50am
34 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 11:25:30am
35 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:25:33am

re: #32 lawhawk

No, please take this umbrella. Oops. Sorry about that pinprick. Didn’t realize the tip was sharp. /

If only the interview were held in a steam room.

36 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:27:15am
37 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 11:28:07am
38 William of Orange  Apr 17, 2014 11:29:13am

It’s not all doom and gloom, guys….

I GET SO FLIPPIN’ HAPPY WATCHING THIS!

Youtube Video

(Enjoy)

39 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 11:29:26am

“Look it’s probably really maybe Muslim(s) not sure yet but Islamists and Muslim(s) that and Norway had it coming so don’t feign surprise OK. Also, update.”
— The Mighty Greenwald on the Oslo (Breivik) Attack

40 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 11:30:04am

Snopes on the Florida voting/bathroom story
Claim: The Miami-Dade County Elections Department has implemented a policy to close the bathrooms at all polling facilities.
Ruling: Mixture

“There’s no legal requirement for us to provide bathroom access, but we, as a courtesy to our voters, do when there is a bathroom at the polling place,” she said. “That’s not always possible.”

41 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 11:30:33am

If you can’t trust some flighty, thieving dudebro and Putin, who can you trust?

42 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 11:32:08am

re: #40 Killgore Trout

Snopes on the Florida voting/bathroom story
Claim: The Miami-Dade County Elections Department has implemented a policy to close the bathrooms at all polling facilities.
Ruling: Mixture

Reading through that again I think it would be better classified as “false”

43 William of Orange  Apr 17, 2014 11:34:28am
44 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 11:34:35am

Damn! About 8 military jets just flew over my apt, very, very low.

I’ve seen small planes before, but never, ever these. They might have been Natl Guard planes, were that dark green color.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 11:36:04am
46 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:36:40am

I love the Jeff Gannon reference…

47 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 11:37:24am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

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I wouldn’t bet on that story either way. Could be a hoax or propaganda. There’s much bullshit about.

48 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 11:37:50am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russian horses are really tiny.

They had to pick a pony to make Putin look big.

49 Alyosha  Apr 17, 2014 11:38:43am

I’m wondering if it isn’t a kind of silver-lining that one discreditable thief, Snowden went to another pathological egomaniac like Greenwald instead of a reputable journalist.

Or even just a journalist…

50 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 11:38:51am
52 EmmaAnne  Apr 17, 2014 11:40:19am

re: #38 William of Orange

It’s not all doom and gloom, guys….

>I GET SO FLIPPIN’ HAPPY WATCHING THIS!

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(Enjoy)

That guy wins at dog owning forever.

53 Ming  Apr 17, 2014 11:40:26am

re: #30 lawhawk

Russia doesn’t have a surveillance system to do mass intercepts? Really?…

Not many big lies measure up to that one. It’s like when the USSR assured the world for decades that they weren’t working on biological warfare.

54 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 11:40:26am

re: #31 Political Atheist

Now after that display can we finally agree Snowden is a traitor in addition to liar thief and spy?

I’ve said it all along.

He’s done major damage to the US. If he’d done it right, if he’d really had some concern over what the NSA was/is doing, he would have worked the proper US channels to get things changed. But I’ll always think this was planned in advance with the help of others who don’t mind doing major damage to their own country, either.

I’ll always believe that we’re big enough in our democratic ideals to make those changes without someone thinking they have to defect to get things done.

55 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 11:41:48am

re: #46 darthstar

I love the Jeff Gannon reference…

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Ha, love this too:

Edward Snowden - the Max Headroom of the tech-bro set

56 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 11:42:47am

Spin, spin, spin.
— Team Snowden

57 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 11:43:15am

re: #47 Killgore Trout

There’s much bullshit about.

QFT.

Did you read the source articles about bathrooms at polling places?

[…]

The county provides disabled parking and wheelchair-accessible ramps in polling places that don’t already offer it. But bathrooms, either for the disabled or anyone else, are not part of the deal, and allowing voters to tinkle is up to each building owner or operator. Other than the emails to Dubin, there’s no formal bathroom policy.

To Dubin’s broader point about disabled access, though, White did concede that the county’s position is that it doesn’t have to provide those restrooms at polling places — because the county says it doesn’t have to provide any restrooms, period.

“There’s no legal requirement for us to provide bathroom access, but we, as a courtesy to our voters, do when there is a bathroom at the polling place,” she said. “That’s not always possible.”

Read more here: miamiherald.com

58 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 11:45:51am

In Soviet Russia, “Jewish” was a listed in one’s passport under “nationality”. We see what they are trying to get back to.

59 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:46:09am
60 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:47:22am
61 Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2014 11:47:27am

Even my kid knows this doesn’t pass the smell test:

Say whaaat???

62 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 11:47:55am

I swear, if youtube keeps autoplaying my whole fucking favorites list when I repeatedly turn off autoplay, someone is getting cut.

63 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 11:48:54am

The one and only time I’ll wear Google Glass.

64 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 11:48:59am

Yesterday’s pot story seems like it was another case of bad science reporting
No, this study doesn’t show marijuana wrecks your brain

65 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:50:34am
66 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 11:50:51am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Vox: What we know about the pro-Russian flier threatening to round up Ukrainian Jews

What we know is that someone is distributing anti-Jewish flyers and is looking to sow discord in the Ukraine. Which group stands to benefit most from this?

It isn’t the Jews, that’s for sure. And it has a whole lot of remarkable similarities to the kinds of propaganda pushed ahead of pogroms and the Nazi fanaticism that culminated in harsh repression in Germany.

This is a terribly depressing turn of events, and those Ukrainian Jews have got to be wondering when the other shoe might drop.

My family can trace its history back to parts of Ukraine, so this hits home too.

For far too many people (and we’ve seen this here in the US too) - when all else fails to explain what happens in breaking/current events, find the scapegoat to pin it on, and it invariably leads to the “other”, which all too frequently means Jews.

67 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 11:50:57am
68 Ming  Apr 17, 2014 11:53:19am

re: #31 Political Atheist

Now after that display can we finally agree Snowden is a traitor in addition to liar thief and spy?

Yes, absolutely, when he was in Hawaii, Snowden was a traitor. And he may well have been manipulated by some foreign intelligence service, with or without his knowledge.

As to the present day, all we know for sure is that Snowden is intelligent enough to realize he’s a caged animal. He knows, and Putin knows he knows, and Snowden knows that Putin knows he knows, and that’s that. They understand each other.

69 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:54:09am
70 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 11:54:16am

re: #61 Mike Lamb

Even my kid knows this doesn’t pass the smell test:

Say whaaat???

Photo of the day!

71 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 11:54:39am

re: #63 darthstar

The one and only time I’ll wear Google Glass.

Sorry, you get runner-up.

72 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 17, 2014 11:55:08am

Genius, dumbass, traitor, patriot: the minute Snowden hid in Russia and got “managed” by the FSB. This story is no longer about signals intelligence, it’s about human intelligence…and Snowden is being positioned as an asset for Putin. His intentions don’t matter.

I said repeatedly, I don’t understand the blase-ness amongst his supporters about him being in Russia. He’s now part of their plans, their intellgence/propaganda system.

73 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 11:56:26am
74 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 11:56:48am

re: #66 lawhawk

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75 b_sharp  Apr 17, 2014 11:59:12am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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They’re hardly skeptics.

76 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 11:59:38am

If The Intercept wasn’t closed for remodeling then I would have Glenn’s working title for his next screed.

How to win the Pulitzer and still have a lousy week.

77 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 11:59:57am
78 Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH  Apr 17, 2014 12:00:38pm
We don’t have a mass system of such interception, and according to our law it cannot exist.

I was going to call bullshit on this, but then I looked deeply into Putin’s eyes and saw his beautiful soul.

80 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:00:56pm
81 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 12:03:09pm
82 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:03:31pm
83 Bulworth  Apr 17, 2014 12:03:49pm

Russia doesn’t have illegal surveillance because it’s not illegal in Russia and because US invaded Iraq so shutup checkmate lickspittles!!!1

84 Justanotherhuman  Apr 17, 2014 12:03:55pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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No, Charlie, Snowjob made the worst move when he stole NSA documents.

85 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:06:07pm
86 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 12:06:09pm
87 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:06:59pm
88 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 12:10:57pm

re: #87 Kragar

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We must ban voting to save democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!

89 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 17, 2014 12:15:07pm

Prediction: In their standard “Ministry of Truth” style, Texas GOP operatives will soon be denying that the “Boats ‘n Hoes” PAC ever existed.

90 Decatur Deb  Apr 17, 2014 12:16:31pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel

Prediction: In their standard “Ministry of Truth” style, Texas GOP operatives will soon be denying that the “Boats ‘n Hoes” PAC ever existed.

Rebranded the “Lone Star Sailing and Gardening Club”.

91 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:17:02pm

re: #87 Kragar

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War criminal says what. West can go fuck himself. Fuck him and his xenophobic party.

92 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:18:34pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

We must ban voting to save democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!

Voting on laws and policies which you want your community to enforce is the most dangerous form of Jihad.

Just look at what the Teavangelical Jihad has done so far.

93 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:20:16pm
94 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 12:20:50pm

I’m not clicking on Pamela’s blog, but does she think TEH MUSLIMS have taken over Ukraine?

95 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:22:58pm
96 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:24:07pm

Not sure about those leaflets in Eastern Ukraine. Waiting.

97 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:24:08pm

re: #95 b.d.

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Prediction; no matter what Obama says, he will be labeled a war mongrel by the fireprogs and dudebros and be accused of appeasement by the warfuckers.

98 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 12:24:15pm

That story about Jews being forced to register in Ukraine is probably not true.

buzzfeed.com

99 Jay in Oregon  Apr 17, 2014 12:25:46pm

re: #24 Mattand

I saw both this story and this idiotic “Snowden’s got Putin right where he wants him” idea over at Ars Technicha.

There is nothing Snowden can do to vex Putin that can’t be solved by a bullet to the head.

Meanwhile, betting houses in Las Vegas are revising the odds that Snowden disclosed classified secrets to Russia to “Are you effin’ kidding me?”

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 12:27:24pm
101 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:27:34pm
102 EdDantes  Apr 17, 2014 12:27:51pm

re: #99 Jay in Oregon

Where in Oregon? I was born in Oregon.

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 12:28:01pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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because that’s what Jesus would do!

104 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:28:11pm

I BET OBAMA IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SNOWDEN’S QUESTION TO PUTIN!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THE NERVE OF OBAMA!?!?!?!?

105 dog philosopher  Apr 17, 2014 12:28:43pm

from the cyrillic i can see he is fated to live out his life now as edvard snoudyen

106 KerFuFFler  Apr 17, 2014 12:28:55pm

Deleted since I was responding to a likely false tweet….

107 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 12:29:12pm
108 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 12:29:16pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bryan Fischer is a bot fly larva embedded in what passes for the brains of movement conservatism.

109 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:29:51pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is he ever not a pathetic dick?

110 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:30:17pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

Bryan Fischer is a bot fly larva embedded in what passes for the brains of movement conservatism.

He’s a poster child for the Religious Right’s “Yes, we can be more mentally unbalanced than Pat Robertson.”

111 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 17, 2014 12:30:30pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

Bryan Fischer is a bot fly larva embedded in what passes for the brains of movement conservatism.

Jesus would so totally scourge his ass.

112 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 12:30:39pm
113 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 12:31:08pm
114 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 12:31:20pm
115 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 12:31:57pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Is he ever not a pathetic dick?

Perhaps Bryan Fischer should be given a special title of “Eternal asshole” and taken out of the running for the daily asshole, to give aspiring assholes a fair chance.

116 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:31:59pm

Oh boy. Here we go.

117 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:32:07pm

Some times life keeps letting you down:
First you have to attend Liberty University and before you get free you have to listen to Bobby

118 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 12:32:15pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

We got Afghan food catered to the office today. Chicken Mourgh (yellow curry), Banjan (fried eggplant baked w/tomato sauce), Gulpea (cauliflower, tomato, onion and hot pepper) and Challow rice(rice seasoned with cumin seed and baked).

119 CuriousLurker  Apr 17, 2014 12:33:15pm

I wonder how Putin regards Snowden?

Despite his thoroughly dickish personality, I get the distinct impression that Putin is very patriotic or, perhaps more accurately, very nationalistic. How must someone like Putin, who identifies so strongly with his own Russian ethnicity, regard someone like Snowden who turns on his own?

I suspect Putin regards him with utter contempt, which doesn’t bode well for Snowden’s long-term future, when he ceases being a useful tool.

If I were Snowden, I would be very, very afraid. And very, very pissed at myself and the people who helped me get to where I am.

120 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:33:16pm

re: #117 b.d.

Some times life keeps letting you down:
First you have to attend Liberty University and before you get free you have to listen to Bobby

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Yeah I think that’s a commencement speech I’d pass in exchange for having shots at the campus bar.

121 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:33:45pm

re: #119 CuriousLurker

I wonder how Putin regards Snowden?

Despite his thoroughly dickish personality, I get the distinct impression that Putin is very patriotic or, perhaps more accurately, very nationalistic. How must someone like Putin, who identifies so strongly with his own Russian ethnicity, regard someone like Snowden who turns on his own?

I suspect Putin regards him with utter contempt, which doesn’t bode well for Snowden’s long-term future, when he ceases being a useful tool.

If I were Snowden, I would be very, very afraid. And very, very pissed at myself and the people who helped me get to where I am.

That’s a good question actually. I think useful idiot is ther term here.

122 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 12:34:02pm

re: #117 b.d.

Some times life keeps letting you down:
First you have to attend Liberty University and before you get free you have to listen to Bobby

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It’s a free country. I have little sympathy for those to choose to go to Liberty U to become willfully ignorant.

123 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:34:04pm

OBAMACARE FAIL

124 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 12:34:14pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

Shit stirrers pushing their own agenda (not Buzzfeed, but those who are distributing the flyers).

125 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:34:26pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think that’s a commencement speech I’d pass in exchange for having shots at the campus bar.

You honestly think their is a bar at LU?

126 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 12:35:12pm
127 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 12:35:31pm

I had peanut butter BUT it was on orange apricot current whole wheat sourdough bread.

128 lawhawk  Apr 17, 2014 12:35:44pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

That’s what happens when you mess with Pesach (chametz!) /

129 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 12:35:48pm

An older photo of Eddie Snowden:

130 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:35:49pm

Nothing could go wrong with this:

131 gwangung  Apr 17, 2014 12:36:14pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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Does Walsh have the IQ points to keep his mouth shut?

132 AntonSirius  Apr 17, 2014 12:36:21pm

re: #34 Gus

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An early harbinger of the 24 Hour Rule

133 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 12:37:13pm

BABY DUCKS! ON A WATERSLIDE!

Youtube Video

134 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 12:38:41pm

re: #119 CuriousLurker

I wonder how Putin regards Snowden?

Despite his thoroughly dickish personality, I get the distinct impression that Putin is very patriotic or, perhaps more accurately, very nationalistic. How must someone like Putin, who identifies so strongly with his own Russian ethnicity, regard someone like Snowden who turns on his own?

I suspect Putin regards him with utter contempt, which doesn’t bode well for Snowden’s long-term future, when he ceases being a useful tool.

If I were Snowden, I would be very, very afraid. And very, very pissed at myself and the people who helped me get to where I am.

I think Putin makes a point of being loyal to his fellows in crime. He’ll continue to protect Yunk. If Assad has to flee Putin will welcome him. He’ll keep Snowden safe and relatively happy. In Putin’s mind it’s important to stay loyal, it makes Russia a valuable and attractive ally to dictators and strongmen.

135 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:40:00pm

re: #125 Kragar

You honestly think their is a bar at LU?

Snicker no actually but I imagine there’s some good ones in Blacksburg where Va Tech is which is nearby enough.

136 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 12:42:02pm

This is relevant to my interests.

The aim of this workshop is to explore the role of science and technology in adapting the global cocoa and chocolate industry to climate change. More specifically, the workshop will develop a roadmap on how to leverage the power of institutions of higher learning to respond to the sustainability challenges facing the industry.

137 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:42:49pm

35% of people who signed up for the ACA are under 35 years of age.

PBO now

138 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:43:29pm

re: #137 b.d.

35% of people who signed up for the ACA are under 35 years of age.

PBO now

Well that’s another GOP/TP myth wiped out.

139 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 12:44:39pm
140 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:45:02pm

re: #136 wrenchwench

This is relevant to my interests.

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Also. Coffee crops. Something must be done about this climate change thing now! // :D

141 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:45:29pm

re: #139 darthstar

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Obviously it needs to be repealed before more people can enroll on it.

142 steve_davis  Apr 17, 2014 12:46:27pm

oh dear god. I’m tempted to wander over to Crooks and Liars to troll for a bit. I love the taste of medium-rare dudebro, with just a drizzle of emoprog on top.

143 EdDantes  Apr 17, 2014 12:46:49pm

re: #137 b.d.

35% of people who signed up for the ACA are under 35 years of age.

PBO now

That’s it? Do you have a link?

144 AntonSirius  Apr 17, 2014 12:46:52pm

re: #119 CuriousLurker

I suspect Putin regards him with utter contempt, which doesn’t bode well for Snowden’s long-term future, when he ceases being a useful tool.

Generally speaking, Russians have no respect at all for wimps.

Snowden running away from America rather than facing the music, and doing what he’s told in that “interview” with Putin, brand him firmly as a wimp.

He’ll survive at the pleasure of his new lord and master, and not a moment beyond that.

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 12:47:06pm
146 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 12:47:49pm

re: #143 EdDantes

That’s it? Do you have a link?

If you were watching, you would have heard the President say exactly that.

147 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 12:48:30pm

Duck and cover! The ‘splodey heads are coming!

148 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:48:45pm

re: #143 EdDantes

That’s it? Do you have a link?

President Obama is holding a press conference and that is what came out of his mouth.

I am sure there will hard numbers somewhere soon.

149 darthstar  Apr 17, 2014 12:48:55pm

Presidential PWNAGE.

150 Ming  Apr 17, 2014 12:50:02pm

A powerful video (under 2 minutes) about gun control (via Andrew Sullivan).

151 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:50:20pm

re: #149 darthstar

Presidential PWNAGE.

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Seriously. The GOP’s only been doing this pointless repeal effort to wave their dicks in front of their base. It’s accomplished nothing of substance. I can understand one symbolic repeal attempt but they’ve had over 40 of these since USSC affirmed ACA’s constitutionality.

152 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 12:50:35pm

re: #143 EdDantes

That’s it? Do you have a link?

Maybe he was quoting a movie.

153 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 12:50:40pm
154 EdDantes  Apr 17, 2014 12:50:56pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wasn’t watching so what did the President say about the ACA? If I like my plan I can keep it? If I like my doctor I can keep him/her?

155 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:51:48pm

re: #154 EdDantes

I wasn’t watching so what did the President say about the ACA? If I like my plan I can keep it? If I like my doctor I can keep him/her?

He said a Death Panel has been trying to get a hold of you.

//

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 12:51:53pm

re: #154 EdDantes

I wasn’t watching so what did the President say about the ACA? If I like my plan I can keep it? If I like my doctor I can keep him/her?

Here, have a kegger…

157 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:51:57pm
158 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:52:11pm

re: #155 b.d.

He said a Death Panel has been trying to get a hold of you.

//

Is that before or after ACA indoctrinates you into Kenyan socialism.

159 blueraven  Apr 17, 2014 12:52:14pm

Oh the bitter, bitter tears.

160 EdDantes  Apr 17, 2014 12:52:16pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Maybe he was quoting a movie.

Barbershop?

161 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:52:32pm

Barack Obama is lying about the ACA numbers because, Benghazi!!

//

162 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2014 12:52:45pm

re: #125 Kragar

You honestly think their is a bar at LU?

In the faculty lounge and the deans’ offices - sure.

163 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 12:53:44pm

re: #154 EdDantes

I wasn’t watching so what did the President say about the ACA? If I like my plan I can keep it? If I like my doctor I can keep him/her?

It was stuff about how more people are getting access to healthcare and proof to back it up. You know, things that conservatives and certain “independents” hate.

164 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 12:53:45pm

re: #162 Feline Fearless Leader

In the faculty lounge and the deans’ offices - sure.

Where else would they have the cocaine and prostitute/rentboy parties?

165 Killgore Trout  Apr 17, 2014 12:53:46pm

Has anyone looked into the Media Matters-SIEU thing? Any truth to it?
Media Matters for America is resisting SEIU’s effort to unionize its staff

166 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:53:48pm

re: #162 Feline Fearless Leader

In the faculty lounge and the deans’ offices - sure.

I know I’d keep the whiskey flowing if I had to work for a Falwell.

167 dog philosopher  Apr 17, 2014 12:54:06pm

re: #137 b.d.

re: #139 darthstar

obamacare denialism today seems focussed on these topics:

1) don’t believe any good news, the numbers are all cooked na na na i don’t hear any good news i’m not listening to you

2) healthy people aren’t signing up enough, so premiums will go through the roof (“insurers are already predicting double digit increases for next year”), therefore obamacare is in an Unavoidable Death Spiral

3) health insurance census gate!!!!11! the census bureau, acting on eeevil instructions directly from deep in the white house, have diabolically changed their health insurance questions JUST THIS YEAR precisely so that all bad obamacare news will be obscured WHY ISN’T EVERYBODY VERY VERY UPSET WHY?

168 CuriousLurker  Apr 17, 2014 12:54:12pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

I think Putin makes a point of being loyal to his fellows in crime. He’ll continue to protect Yunk. If Assad has to flee Putin will welcome him. He’ll keep Snowden safe and relatively happy. In Putin’s mind it’s important to stay loyal, it makes Russia a valuable and attractive ally to dictators and strongmen.

I just can’t see Putin feeling any loyalty towards Snowden. Yanuk & Assad were/are leaders of their respective countries, so they have some status. Also, regardless of what massively corrupt & brutal assholes they might be, they didn’t rat out their own countries. Yes, yes, I know someone like Assad has done horribly brutal things to his fellow countrymen, but but he didn’t do it to his own, AFAIK—i.e. he didn’t brutalize fellow Alawites.

I think that’s something a nationalist like Putin can respect. Snowden? Not so much—he has no loyalties, not even to his own, so why would Putin put any stock in Snowden’s loyalty? Putin is an asshole. but he’s far from stupid, and I’m 99% certain that Snowden’s usefulness has an expiration date.

169 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:54:19pm

YOU LIE!

//

170 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 12:54:25pm

This will get TCOT going:

171 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 12:55:04pm

re: #170 Lidane

This will get TCOT going:

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Ayep.

172 b.d.  Apr 17, 2014 12:55:22pm

re: #170 Lidane

This will get TCOT going:

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Ha!

Like moths to a flame.

173 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:55:39pm

re: #170 Lidane

This will get TCOT going:

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I believe we call that poking the hornet’s nest.

174 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 12:55:42pm

re: #149 darthstar

An elegant way of pointing out that the congressional GOP members have been useless fuckwits on this (and all other) issues for the entire duration of Obama’s term.

175 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 12:56:18pm

re: #170 Lidane

This will get TCOT going:

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They hate things like facts

176 EdDantes  Apr 17, 2014 12:57:05pm

re: #163 Mattand

It was stuff about how more people are getting access to healthcare and proof to back it up. You know, things that conservatives and certain “independents” hate.

That’s funny. Thanks ;) Upding!

177 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 12:57:22pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

I believe we call that poking the hornet’s nest.

I’m expecting to see plenty of ZOMG OUTRAGE on my FB feed about this. Should be fun.

178 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:57:33pm

re: #175 Kragar

They hate things like facts

Moreover, they like to smear shit around but they don’t like it coming back to them. The same people who will accuse Reid of using charged language will be the same people who have had no problem likening POTUS to a murderous tyrant.

179 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 12:58:04pm

re: #149 darthstar

Presidential PWNAGE.

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This is something Bill Maher brings up in his more lucid moments: imagine what good could have been done if even a fraction of the GOP Nope Dopes acted like adults and put country first, party 337th.

180 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:58:07pm

re: #177 Lidane

I’m expecting to see plenty of ZOMG OUTRAGE on my FB feed about this. Should be fun.

Yeah I know a couple of people will be the moths to Harry’s flame here too.

181 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 12:59:32pm

re: #170 Lidane

This will get TCOT going:

An armed revolt and threats against federal agents enforcing a law signed by Ronny Raygun……yup, that’s domestic terrorism,

182 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 12:59:49pm

re: #179 Mattand

This is something Bill Maher brings up in his more lucid moments: image what good could have been done if even a fraction of the GOP Nope Dopes acted like adults and put country first, party 337th.

It really sucks. I mean as I said I understand one repeal of ACA for symbolic reasons. Tacky, granted but whatever but they’ve had well over 40 repeal attempts that they know will fail and they know it’s costing a ton of money. I think they’ve been just trying to delay the inevitable which is ACA both working and being popular. Eventually they’ll start taking credit for it like how they do with Civil Rights.

183 EdDantes  Apr 17, 2014 1:00:13pm

Is he still talking? Good evening all.

184 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:03pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Moreover, they like to smear shit around but they don’t like it coming back to them. The same people who will accuse Reid of using charged language will be the same people who have had no problem likening POTUS to a murderous tyrant.

They don’t even realize they’re doing it. Ran into a twit yesterday ranting about “Punk ass liberals” complaining about Bundy Ranch, and I called the militia a bunch of morons. Sure enough, she was outraged I would resort to name calling, something she would never do.

185 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:04pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

…Eventually they’ll start taking credit for it like how they do with Civil Rights.

While still working to undermine/gut it at every opportunity, also just like civil rights.

186 Testy Toad T  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:04pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

I think they’ve been just trying to delay the inevitable which is ACA both working and being popular. Eventually they’ll start taking credit for it like how they do with Civil Rights.

Twenty years hence, the GOP is welcome to take the credit for the Civil Rights Act, Obamacare, and gay marriage while they’re at it. All I ask in return is that they get the fuck out of the way right now.

187 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:12pm
188 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:39pm

re: #183 EdDantes

Is he still talking? Good evening all.

Forget to write. Please.

189 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:43pm
190 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 17, 2014 1:01:46pm
191 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 17, 2014 1:02:10pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

It really sucks. I mean as I said I understand one repeal of ACA for symbolic reasons. .

I even sent an e-mail to the GOP congratulating them for their 40th attempt at repealing ACA and told them I looked forward to the 50th vote against it…

192 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 1:02:37pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

It really sucks. I mean as I said I understand one repeal of ACA for symbolic reasons. Tacky, granted but whatever but they’ve had well over 40 repeal attempts that they know will fail and they know it’s costing a ton of money. I think they’ve been just trying to delay the inevitable which is ACA both working and being popular. Eventually they’ll start taking credit for it like how they do with Civil Rights.

Wile E. Coyote has slightly more dignity than these guys. At least he was trying to catch a meal.

193 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 1:02:49pm

re: #188 Mattand

Forget to write. Please.

Is there precedent for banning someone for doing nothing but trolling, even if they are somewhat polite about it?

194 Kragar  Apr 17, 2014 1:03:12pm

re: #181 Dr. Matt

An armed revolt and threats against federal agents enforcing a law signed by Ronny Raygun……yup, that’s domestic terrorism,

195 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:03:13pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

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Every morning I pray to God thanking Him for not having been born a male spider.

//

196 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:04:33pm

re: #192 Mattand

Wile E. Coyote has slightly more dignity than these guys. At least he was trying to catch a meal.

Ha yeah but you do got to wonder that with all the money Wile spent on gadgets from ACME that he couldn’t have just had Roadrunner at a local restaurant. I jest obviously but yeah this is just sad. There’s literally no way Obama is going to sign a repeal of ACA and there’s no way they’re going to get it past the Senate right now. It’s a colossal waste of time and just a massive dick wave to the base that they’re afraid of.

197 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:04:49pm
198 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 1:04:53pm

re: #193 EPR-radar

Is there precedent for banning someone for doing nothing but trolling, even if they are somewhat polite about it?

Eh, I can deal with polite trolling. It’s knowing when to stop that’s the problem. Which I guess goes against the concept of trolling in the first place.

I just broke my cerebrum.

199 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:05:12pm

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I even sent an e-mail to the GOP congratulating them for their 40th attempt at repealing ACA and told them I looked forward to the 50th vote against it…

Ha, anyone want to start taking bets how many repeals we end up having by January 2017 when Obama parts ways?

200 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:06:01pm

re: #184 Kragar

They don’t even realize they’re doing it. Ran into a twit yesterday ranting about “Punk ass liberals” complaining about Bundy Ranch, and I called the militia a bunch of morons. Sure enough, she was outraged I would resort to name calling, something she would never do.

Yeah I enjoy hearing about the mean liberals from people who enjoy Limbaugh, Hannity,, and others.

201 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 1:06:05pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Ha, anyone want to start taking bets how many repeals we end up having by January 2017 when Obama parts ways?

If the GOP takes the Senate in 2014, we may have to start counting the number of failed impeachments.

202 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 1:06:41pm
203 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 1:07:09pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ha yeah but you do got to wonder that with all the money Wile spent on gadgets from ACME that he couldn’t have just had Roadrunner at a local restaurant. I jest obviously but yeah this is just sad. There’s literally no way Obama is going to sign a repeal of ACA and there’s no way they’re going to get it past the Senate right now. It’s a colossal waste of time and just a massive dick wave to the base that they’re afraid of.

LOL at the bolded. In my decades of Road Runner fandom, I never considered that!

And yeah, spot on about the GOP. History is not going to look kindly on this current batch. My regret is I or they won’t be here to see it.

204 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:07:14pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

If the GOP takes the Senate in 2014, we may have to start counting the number of failed impeachments.

Agh yeah. Honestly I’m amazed Obama hasn’t had a Truman moment where he’s totally went off on these guys. This isn’t ideological disagreement that the GOP has with Obama, this is raw hatred.

205 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:07:15pm
206 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 1:07:20pm

re: #202 wrenchwench

Help me here. Since when is a missing plane a missing blonde white girl?

207 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 1:07:32pm

Well, shit:

208 Testy Toad T  Apr 17, 2014 1:07:48pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

If the GOP takes the Senate in 2014, we may have to start counting the number of failed impeachments.

As they say,

Please proceed.

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2014 1:08:30pm

re: #193 EPR-radar

Is there precedent for banning someone for doing nothing but trolling, even if they are somewhat polite about it?

My own bit of protest is to refuse to acknowledge, even with a downding.
Sadly, I am mortal and made that kegger comment…

210 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:08:37pm

re: #203 Mattand

LOL at the bolded. In my decades of Road Runner fandom, I never considered that!

And yeah, spot on about the GOP. History is not going to look kindly on this current batch. My regret is I or they won’t be here to see it.

Neither had I, it just occured to me when you pointed out that all Wile was trying to do was catch a meal and then I thought “Shit he buys all these expansive gadgets, so it’s not like he’s lacking money.” Maybe raw roadrunner is a delicacy. I don’t know. I’m not a coyote who’s fallen off the cliff way too often for comfort so Wile’s probably not exactly sharp mentally these days.

211 Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2014 1:08:53pm
212 Lidane  Apr 17, 2014 1:09:21pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ha yeah but you do got to wonder that with all the money Wile spent on gadgets from ACME that he couldn’t have just had Roadrunner at a local restaurant.

Hah! Seriously.

213 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 1:09:38pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

If the GOP takes the Senate in 2014, we may have to start counting the number of failed impeachments.

re: #208 Testy Toad T

As they say,

Please proceed.

The problem is that many of the people who will be complaining about “Why does the GOP do nothing but try to impeach Obama?” will be the same fuckwits who ignored the last 6 years and voted GOP anyway.

214 Dr. Matt  Apr 17, 2014 1:10:31pm

Chill-Ass Orangutan Doesn’t Even Care He Got Shot In The Leg

What we have here is a 14-year-old Sumatran Orangutan receiving medical treatment from a member of the Sumatran Orangutan Conservation Programme after taking an air-gun pellet to the leg. Is this chill-ass orangutan upset by any of this?

Nah, man. He’s good. Everything’s good.

From: theconcourse.deadspin.com

215 dog philosopher  Apr 17, 2014 1:10:43pm

re: #205 Gus

The repeal debate my career is far from can’t possibly be over already, can it? #FullRepeal

— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) April 17, 2014

216 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 1:11:07pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

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The illustration:

217 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:11:26pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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For me, I think it’s a desire of them to wipe off his signature accomplishment. If some people lose their coverage, so what, at least Obummer lost his accomplishment. The more time that drags on and the more that enroll on ACA though, the more pathetic they look. I really think they seriously thought Roberts would just rubber stamp them and repeal ACA because they want Roberts to be what they believe “judicial activists” to be.

218 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 1:11:34pm

It would be nice to be able to review some of the LGF member’s comments back when this whole Snowden thing broke.

I’m thinking several here saw this whole thing coming and it is almost going to script.

Poor Eddie has gotten himself in deep and there is probably not a whole hell of a lot of extraction methods to get out of it.

And I get the feeling his home country is in no hurry to help. Heck, they may never help, just leave the little punk there to rot.

Great game plan you had going there Eddie. You might want to see if you could at least fire your manager…Glenn Greenwald. All he does is give you the ‘take’ sign.

And Glenn…I see you got to a point where many saw you as a big man. Your shrinking daily now. In a few months, many might not even know who you are. It’s called distance.

219 Mattand  Apr 17, 2014 1:11:53pm

re: #214 Dr. Matt

Chill-Ass Orangutan Doesn’t Even Care He Got Shot In The Leg

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I think Dr. Zaius has been writing himself prescriptions again.

220 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:11:57pm
221 wrenchwench  Apr 17, 2014 1:12:10pm

re: #214 Dr. Matt

Chill-Ass Orangutan Doesn’t Even Care He Got Shot In The Leg

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Thanks. I was wondering why that woman was so close to an orang with his eyes open.

222 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:12:23pm

re: #214 Dr. Matt

Chill-Ass Orangutan Doesn’t Even Care He Got Shot In The Leg

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That’s an awesome pic. He’s just so relaxed. Sucks he got shot though.

223 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 1:12:42pm

re: #213 Mattand

The problem is that many of the people who will be complaining about “Why does the GOP do nothing but try to impeach Obama?” will be the same fuckwits who ignored the last 6 years and voted GOP anyway.

How anyone can look at the difference between the parties these days and choose to vote one way or the other depending on random media bullshit or other crap is beyond me. I can more easily understand the GOP true faithful since they are merely consistently wrong, as opposed to being incomprehensible.

224 CuriousLurker  Apr 17, 2014 1:13:20pm

re: #220 Gus

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Damn, someone’s always trying to steal our thunder. //

225 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:13:28pm

re: #220 Gus

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Yes, Cal, people marrying members of the same gender and having the same rights that you and I do with women as our spouses is more dangerous than terrorists that target innocent civilians. Gee, do you listen to yourself?

226 EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2014 1:14:36pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

The illustration:

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The factoid “..copulations last 40-70 hours…”

227 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:14:51pm

re: #224 CuriousLurker

Damn, someone’s always trying to steal our thunder. //

BEWARE THE GAY MARRIAGE CALIPHATE! //

228 Eventual Carrion  Apr 17, 2014 1:15:30pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

They had to pick a pony to make Putin look big.

“Aim low boys, they’re riding Shetlands!”

229 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:16:28pm

Cal Thomas is illustrating why the right is thankfully losing the gay marriage debate. They can’t’ discuss this issue without sounding like hysterical morons. Gay marriage a bigger threat than Russia or Islamic terrorist? See, your average person sees that and thinks what the fuck is wrong with this guy.

230 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:16:47pm

re: #227 Gus

BEWARE THE GAY MARRIAGE CALIPHATE! //

Creeping Fabulous Shariah Law.

231 CuriousLurker  Apr 17, 2014 1:17:47pm

Gah—ant invasion! Happens every frickin’ spring. Gotta go see if I can find the source. BBL

232 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:17:53pm
233 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:18:06pm

re: #231 CuriousLurker

Gah—ant invasion! Happens every frickin’ spring. Gotta go see if I can find the source. BBL

Better ants than stinkbugs but my sympathies.

234 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:19:06pm

re: #232 Gus

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That explains the epidemic of child marriage in Canada. Really, please proceed Cal, you really are doing more to help the cause of marriage equality when you liken same sex marriage to child marriage you pathetic dolt.

235 Gus  Apr 17, 2014 1:20:48pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

That explains the epidemic of child marriage in Canada. Really, please proceed Cal, you really are doing more to help the cause of marriage equality when you liken same sex marriage to child marriage you pathetic dolt.

Ha! :D

236 HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2014 1:22:46pm

re: #235 Gus

Ha! :D

David Weigel was right, we’re going to look back on this and wonder why the hell was this even a contested issue. Cal Thomas will be looked at the same way most people look at those who shouted racial slurs at black students enrolling in schools.

237 palmerskiss  Apr 17, 2014 1:23:09pm

good evening/afternoon salamanders :)

238 palmerskiss  Apr 17, 2014 1:30:21pm

Fighting off jetlag here last night I went on a little journey into the deep dark “butthurt” webz, following of a certain link posted here yesterday relating to a certain group of very hurt and very bigoted characters from “portrait of an artist”

on my journey there was much irony, and mindbending lack of self-awareness, and what appears to be a complete lack of understanding contradiction and hypocrisy.

some of the tourist sights included lengthy dossiers on certain lizards.

all in all - it was an eye-opening trip into obsession and love/hate jealousy all wrapped up in hatred for the muslim.

have some sharp and strident thoughts related to what i read so will page it tonight or tomorrow.

239 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 1:43:20pm

re: #192 Mattand

Wile E. Coyote has slightly more dignity than these guys. At least he was trying to catch a meal.

Ha. The ACME Republican We Can’t Do It Ourselves Congress.

240 ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2014 1:46:34pm

re: #205 Gus

Ted Cruz - The repeal debate is far from over. #FullRepeal

That boy is a real trooper, going to any length…

241 Bubblehead II  Apr 17, 2014 2:13:17pm

re: #170 Lidane

This will get TCOT going:

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They are.

Per 18 U.S. Code § 2331 - Definitions

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

242 AntonSirius  Apr 18, 2014 6:25:41am

re: #231 CuriousLurker

Gah—ant invasion! Happens every frickin’ spring. Gotta go see if I can find the source. BBL

Help me, Sinterklaas. You’re my only hope

243 Jay in Oregon  Apr 18, 2014 9:05:34am

Edward Snowden defends decision to question Vladimir Putin on surveillance

I’m sure Snowden asked Putin a “gotcha” question precisely so he could unleash the truth!

Ed has probably been busy emailing Glenn Greenwald hundreds of files from his pilfered cache of NSA documents. Any minute now we’ll have the first of a dozen articles over at The Intercept detailing what the U.S. knows of Russia’s intelligence operations against its citizens.

Yep, aaaaaaaaaaany minute now…


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