Right Wing Heads Explode as Video of Rand Paul Bashing Ronald Reagan Surfaces

Rand Paul’s Reagan-worship exposed as a scam
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David Corn has discovered video of Rand Paul, the crypto-libertarian Republican chip off of Ron Paul’s block, bashing the Republican Party’s most revered icon: WATCH: Rand Paul Says Jimmy Carter Was Better on the Budget Than Ronald Reagan.

As Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) ponders a presidential bid, he has lately made efforts to wrap himself in the banner of Ronald Reagan. In op-eds and speeches, the libertarian tea partier has increasingly invoked the Republicans’ most holy icon, especially after being attacked by members of his party’s establishment who have accused him of isolationism. Writing in the Washington Post last week, Paul likened his nuanced approach to foreign policy to what he claimed was Reagan’s embrace of “strategic ambiguity.” A few days earlier, at a so-called “Freedom Summit” in New Hampshire, Paul hailed Reagan as the last president who presided over the creation of millions of jobs, asserting that after the Gipper lowered tax rates, 20 million jobs were created and “more revenue came in.” (factcheck.org concluded that Paul was “falsifying evidence”—and ignoring that more jobs were created during President Bill Clinton’s tenure when tax rates went up.) But Paul hasn’t always cast himself as much of a Reagan fan. In fact, when he stumped for his father in 2008 and again when ran for Senate in 2010, Paul often referred to the grand old man of the GOP with a touch of disappointment and criticism. And he routinely made an assertion that might seem like blasphemy to many Republicans: President Jimmy Carter had a better record on fiscal discipline than Reagan.

In a variety of campaign appearances that were captured on video, Paul repeatedly compared Reagan unfavorably to Carter on one of Paul’s top policy priorities: government spending. When Paul was a surrogate speaker for his father, then-Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), during the elder Paul’s 2008 presidential quest, his sales pitch included dumping on Reagan for failing to rein in federal budget deficits. Standing on the back of a truck and addressing the crowd at the Coalition of New Hampshire Taxpayers picnic in July 2007, Rand Paul complained about Reagan and praised his father for having opposed Reagan’s budget:

The deficit went through the roof under Reagan. So how long did it take Ron Paul to figure out that the guy he had liked, endorsed, campaigned for, campaigned for him? The very first [Reagan] budget. Ron Paul voted “no” against the very first Reagan budget… Everybody loved this “great” budget. It was a $100 billion in debt. This was three times greater than Jimmy Carter’s worst deficit.

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238 comments
1 Ian G.  Apr 23, 2014 10:36:25am

David Corn is the one who exposed Romney’s comments on how 47% of this country are parasites, right? He’s a national treasure.

2 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 10:36:44am

Silly Rand, you’re supposed to blame Jimmy Carter for all of the economic problems of the era and give Reagan credit for all its successes. Interested to see how he tries to weasel his way out of it though. Fact of the matter is though there will be backlash to Rand for not being one step in with the Cult of Reagan.

3 Gus  Apr 23, 2014 10:39:20am

Rand Paul Says Jimmy Carter Was Better on the Budget Than Ronald Reagan.

ZOMG!

4 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 10:39:34am

re: #1 Ian G.

David Corn is the one who exposed Romney’s comments on how 47% of this country are parasites, right? He’s a national treasure.

I thought that was Jimmy Carter’s grandson. This is a good find though. If Rand wasn’t such a self-righteous jerk in general and one who will surely try to weasel out of this, I’d actually give him grudging credit for condemning Reagan’s fiscal management. I don’t know how much this will hurt him though. There were clips a plenty of Mitt Romney when he ran for Senate in the early 90’s trying to distance himself from Reagan and H.W Bush and he still got the nomination.

5 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 10:39:46am

re: #1 Ian G.

David Corn is the one who exposed Romney’s comments on how 47% of this country are parasites, right? He’s a national treasure.

6 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 10:40:30am

FETCH ME THE FAINTING COUCH! WHERE ARE MY CLUTCHING PEARLS?!

7 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 10:40:52am

re: #5 Dr. Matt

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I think Obama still beats Romney even without that tape but there’s no denying the release of that tape really re-enforced the image of Mitt as a guy who has contempt for anyone who’s not in with his crowd.

8 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 23, 2014 10:40:53am

Weirdly, that was more accurate than his praise of Reagan.

9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 23, 2014 10:40:53am

How long until they start branding him a WINO: Wingnut in Name Only?

10 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 23, 2014 10:42:27am

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

11 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 10:42:37am

re: #8 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Weirdly, that was more accurate than his praise of Reagan.

That’s actually what is sad here.

12 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 10:43:31am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How long until they start branding him a WINO: Wingnut in Name Only?

13 jaunte  Apr 23, 2014 10:43:45am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

They’re not even trying anymore.

14 Gus  Apr 23, 2014 10:44:14am
15 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 10:44:14am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

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That has to be a joke, right? There was a reason why Bugsy Siegel’s superiors thought he was nuts for wanting to set up a gambling resort town out there.

16 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 10:44:43am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

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That doesn’t matter, because it could be true if they want it to be.

17 Ian G.  Apr 23, 2014 10:45:10am

re: #13 jaunte

They’re not even trying anymore.

Seriously. Yeah, Nevada was a lush tropical savannah. During the fucking Jurassic.

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 10:45:14am
19 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 10:45:16am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

20 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 10:45:39am

re: #8 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Weirdly, that was more accurate than his praise of Reagan.

Indeed, that’s what always gets me, the people making the biggest stink about deficits and debts worshiping at the feet of a man who left the nation nearly $2 trillion deeper in the hole than when he took office.

21 Ian G.  Apr 23, 2014 10:45:44am

re: #15 HappyWarrior

That has to be a joke, right?

Poe’s law.

22 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 10:46:14am

re: #14 Gus

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About time. I thought that old Tailgunner Ted would be the first one to jump on the anti-government bandwagon. I guess he was just waiting for others to clear the path for him.

23 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 10:46:16am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

So the government stole the water and built a desert and mountains…..huh? Good lawd, the stupid is painful

24 Timothy Watson  Apr 23, 2014 10:46:54am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

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And the original poster claims to be a grad student?

This country is so doomed.

25 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 23, 2014 10:49:23am

So it’s a parody account?

26 nines09  Apr 23, 2014 10:49:39am

BLASHPHEMY!!! SEIZE THE INFIDEL!!!!

27 Timothy Watson  Apr 23, 2014 10:50:51am

re: #25 Pie-onist Overlord

Doesn’t appear to be, but the RWNJs are pretty good examples of Poe’s Law.

28 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 10:51:57am

re: #20 Targetpractice

Indeed, that’s what always gets me, the people making the biggest stink about deficits and debts worshiping at the feet of a man who left the nation nearly $2 trillion deeper in the hole than when he took office.

No kidding. I think they give Reagan a pass by the way since he really legitimized their movement even if his administration’s actual practices were about as far as fiscally conservative could be. If Reagan had lost to Carter or Mondale, he’d get thrown under the bus the same way they do Nixon, Ford, and the Bushes. That and the right needed their own FDR/JFK type.

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 10:56:19am

The Win 8.1 marathon download (~30 hours) completed last night. The setup contortions took another hour or so.
Start page is now the old-fashioned looking desktop instead of the miles of tiles and there’s a link to the tiles in the left side of the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. There’s an easier way to shut down when you’re on the tiles screen.
I’ll play around with it more tonight, but so far 8.1 appears to be a massive improvement over 8.

In other news, the Spring pollen allergy nightmare is easing somewhat but full bloom hasn’t begun yet, so there’s that.
Supposedly had a light frost this morning, but I was comatose until the sun rose. Blueberry bushes are happily blooming, however, so it must not have been much of a frost.

31 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 10:58:40am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Win 8.1 marathon download (~30 hours) completed last night.

And over the last 30 hours since you started the download, Microsoft has issued 12 patches and 4 updates.

32 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 10:58:52am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blueberries!!! I’ll be over in a few months.

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 10:59:36am

re: #31 Dr. Matt

And over the last 30 hours since you started the download, Microsoft has issued 12 patches and 4 updates.

no doubt

34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:00:07am

re: #32 wrenchwench

Blueberries!!! I’ll be over in a few months.

I have 50 blueberry bushes. They should be ready sometime in June. Come on over!

35 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:00:46am

OK, I’m going to need everyone to chip in a few bucks so I can attend this:

forgeworld.co.uk

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:03:55am
37 Single-handed sailor  Apr 23, 2014 11:06:15am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Win 8.1 marathon download (~30 hours) completed last night. The setup contortions took another hour or so.
Start page is now the old-fashioned looking desktop instead of the miles of tiles and there’s a link to the tiles in the left side of the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. There’s an easier way to shut down when you’re on the tiles screen.
I’ll play around with it more tonight, but so far 8.1 appears to be a massive improvement over 8.

In other news, the Spring pollen allergy nightmare is easing somewhat but full bloom hasn’t begun yet, so there’s that.
Supposedly had a light frost this morning, but I was comatose until the sun rose. Blueberry bushes are happily blooming, however, so it must not have been much of a frost.

I’ve miles
And miles
Of tiles
Pretty tiles of your forefather’s fruit
And now to suit our
Great computer
You’re magnetic ink.

38 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:06:25am

It is bright and sunny in my part of the world today.

I thought I’d post this from last year.

As we seem to be seeing the freak-out that, IMHO, is resulting. Fear, Paranoia and dreams of South Afrikan style apartheid …

39 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 11:07:03am

Jebus, another one!

“Clueless” star Alicia Silverstone has risked the wrath of parenting groups by sharing her controversial views on motherhood in a new book, in which she criticizes vaccination programs and claims women can boost fertility by ditching tampons and sugar.

“While there has not been a conclusive study of the negative effects of such a rigorous one-size-fits-all, shoot-‘em-up schedule, there is increasing anecdotal evidence from doctors who have gotten distressed phone calls from parents claiming their child was ‘never the same’ after receiving a vaccine. And I personally have friends whose babies were drastically affected in this way.”

blog.sfgate.com

40 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:07:53am

re: #39 Skip Intro

Jebus, another one!

>”Clueless” star Alicia Silverstone has risked the wrath of parenting groups by sharing her controversial views on motherhood in a new book, in which she criticizes vaccination programs and claims women can boost fertility by ditching tampons and sugar.

blog.sfgate.com

Why trust doctors or medical experts when you can take the advice of ditzy celebrities?

41 Bulworth  Apr 23, 2014 11:08:05am

Oh say it ain’t so, Alicia!

42 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:08:22am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

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Nevada was a tropical paradise?

Then why did we bother getting Hawaii?

43 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 11:08:58am

re: #40 Kragar

Why trust doctors or medical experts when you can take the advice of ditzy celebrities?

“Well yeah, she has no medical training whatsoever and her IQ likely isn’t high enough to boil an egg, but she’s a celebrity so she’s gotta be right!”

44 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:09:08am

re: #39 Skip Intro

Jebus, another one!

>”Clueless” star Alicia Silverstone has risked the wrath of parenting groups by sharing her controversial views on motherhood in a new book, in which she criticizes vaccination programs and claims women can boost fertility by ditching tampons and sugar.

blog.sfgate.com

She is one of those who is majorly involved with PETA as well.

45 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 11:10:13am
46 aagcobb  Apr 23, 2014 11:11:20am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Win 8.1 marathon download (~30 hours) completed last night. The setup contortions took another hour or so.
Start page is now the old-fashioned looking desktop instead of the miles of tiles and there’s a link to the tiles in the left side of the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. There’s an easier way to shut down when you’re on the tiles screen.
I’ll play around with it more tonight, but so far 8.1 appears to be a massive improvement over 8.

In other news, the Spring pollen allergy nightmare is easing somewhat but full bloom hasn’t begun yet, so there’s that.
Supposedly had a light frost this morning, but I was comatose until the sun rose. Blueberry bushes are happily blooming, however, so it must not have been much of a frost.

My wife’s asthma has been awful this spring; she’s barely been able to breathe. She went to the doctor and got some steroids yesterday. Of course here in Frankfort we are at ground zero for the worst allergy region in the nation.

47 lawhawk  Apr 23, 2014 11:11:37am

re: #17 Ian G.

Seriously. Yeah, Nevada was a lush tropical savannah. During the fucking Jurassic.

Which according to the YECs who populate the right wing, didn’t exist because the earth is only a few thousand years old.

48 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 11:11:49am

Georgia Governor Signs ‘Unprecedented’ Gun Rights Bill

Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal (R) signed a sweeping gun rights bill on Wednesday.

House Bill 60, also known as The Safe Carry Protection Act, will allow licensed gun owners to carry their firearms into public places, including bars, nightclubs, schools, churches and government buildings.

“People who follow the rules can protect themselves and their families from people who don’t follow the rules,” Deal said, according to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution. “The Second Amendment should never be an afterthought. It should reside at the forefronts of our minds.”

huffingtonpost.com

You know what the solution is to an abusive husband who has 20 guns? A wife who has 21.

49 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:13:00am

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

She is one of those who is majorly involved with PETA as well.

“Tonight on World Forum, we’re discussing the topic of vaccinations. Our guests tonight are the deputy director of the CDC, a Nobel prize winner who won his award in immunology, and 30 year old celebrity who made her name making softcore porn washing Mustangs in a bikini.”

50 lawhawk  Apr 23, 2014 11:13:03am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

And yet you and your site is irrelevant and doesn’t merit a second thought. Except to the stalkers who devote what appears to be every waking moment to knowing what you’re up to. It’s nuts, and Holland’s no exception.

51 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:16:28am
52 Minor_L  Apr 23, 2014 11:18:08am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Good job.

She strikes me as actually pretty stupid. She has spent several days referring to LGF as a “hate site,” while continuing to interact with and get information from an actual hate site. Does she not realize how that looks?

53 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:19:18am

re: #46 aagcobb

My wife’s asthma has been awful this spring; she’s barely been able to breathe. She went to the doctor and got some steroids yesterday. Of course here in Frankfort we are at ground zero for the worst allergy region in the nation.

You are in Frankfort, KY?

Was down your way a couple of weeks ago. Took my allergy meds and did the neti pot faithfully.

Up in the Chicagoland area we are a couple of weeks behind. It’s just started to hit us. I feel like Dorothy in the Poppy Fields.

After a winter of menapausal insomnia, you’d think I’d be greatful. No, I have to complain. I just want a normal sleep/wake cycle. Is that too much to ask?

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:19:25am

re: #46 aagcobb

My wife’s asthma has been awful this spring; she’s barely been able to breathe. She went to the doctor and got some steroids yesterday. Of course here in Frankfort we are at ground zero for the worst llergy region in the nation.

Here’s the pollen forecast for my area. I’m doomed.

forecast via pollen.com

55 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:19:50am

re: #48 Skip Intro

>Georgia Governor Signs ‘Unprecedented’ Gun Rights Bill

huffingtonpost.com

You know what the solution is to an abusive husband who has 20 guns? A wife who has 21.

bars? WTF?

56 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:20:52am

re: #52 Minor_L

Good job.

She strikes me as actually pretty stupid. She has spent several days referring to LGF as a “hate site,” while continuing to interact with and get information from an actual hate site. Does she not realize how that looks?

Yeah, we just hate everyone, spreadin’ hate like butter is what we do best.

/////

57 iossarian  Apr 23, 2014 11:20:54am

re: #35 Kragar

OK, I’m going to need everyone to chip in a few bucks so I can attend this:

forgeworld.co.uk

Heavy Metal
Beards
Real Ale
Warhammer Figurines

It all adds up to…

NOTTINGHAM

58 Snarknado!  Apr 23, 2014 11:21:39am

re: #43 Targetpractice

“Well yeah, she has no medical training whatsoever and her IQ likely isn’t high enough to boil an egg, but she’s a celebrity so she’s gotta be right!”

She was the perfect hire for a show of that name.

59 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:21:40am

re: #57 iossarian

Heavy Metal
Beards
Real Ale
Warhammer Figurines

It all adds up to…

NOTTINGHAM

I’ll just sign my zionist paycheck over to you for the next couple weeks …

:)

60 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 23, 2014 11:22:10am

re: #52 Minor_L

Good job.

She strikes me as actually pretty stupid. She has spent several days referring to LGF as a “hate site,” while continuing to interact with and get information from an actual hate site. Does she not realize how that looks?

Mona is a sociopath. She doesn’t give a shit if the crap she spew is true or even makes sense, she just wants to get under your skin.

Wingnuts spew a bunch of crap, but at least in their little minds they think it’s TEH TROOF. Mona knows that what she spews is complete bullshit, but she does it anyway because she is a sociopathic asshole.

61 Khal Wimpo  Apr 23, 2014 11:22:46am

re: #48 Skip Intro

>Georgia Governor Signs ‘Unprecedented’ Gun Rights Bill

huffingtonpost.com

You know what the solution is to an abusive husband who has 20 guns? A wife who has 21.

I’d be more concerned with guns in bars in rural Georgia … and in the rowdy nightclubs around Atlanta. Or the almost-ubiquitous strip clubs. A couple of drunk knuckledraggers awash in hormones get into a dispute over who gets the next lap dance. Instead of going outside to briefly scuffle in the parking lot, they now have access to loaded weapons in a crowded room. Why, what could go wrong?

At some point, all the angry, paranoid wingnuts who feel the need to strap on a pistol so they can strut around and pretend to be a force of order in the world, are going to run into each other and make territorial displays. I’d dismiss the inevitable results of that as “evolution in action,” were it not for the tendency for stray bullets to hit people who are pretty much minding their own business. This is a fairly common occurrence in troubled, heavily armed areas of the 3rd World.

62 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:23:41am
63 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 11:23:49am
64 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 11:24:02am

re: #61 Khal Wimpo

I’d be more concerned with guns in bars in rural Georgia … and in the rowdy nightclubs around Atlanta. Or the almost-ubiquitous strip clubs. A couple of drunk knuckledraggers awash in hormones get into a dispute over who gets the next lap dance. Instead of going outside to briefly scuffle in the parking lot, they now have access to loaded weapons in a crowded room. Why, what could go wrong?

At some point, all the angry, paranoid wingnuts who feel the need to strap on a pistol so they can strut around and pretend to be a force of order in the world, are going to run into each other and make territorial displays. I’d dismiss the inevitable results of that as “evolution in action,” were it not for the tendency for stray bullets to hit people who are pretty much minding their own business. This is a fairly common occurrence in troubled, heavily armed areas of the 3rd World.

And if the bouncers were not already armed now, they will start doing so shortly. Or escalating to heavier weapons.

65 Minor_L  Apr 23, 2014 11:24:40am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe you’re right. It does seem that she will do just about anything to attack her target. And, it’s infuriating how she says, “I deal in facts. No one else does.” That is the exact opposite of what she does.

66 Bulworth  Apr 23, 2014 11:25:10am

More rebranding:

The Republican-controlled Missouri House will begin impeachment proceedings against Democratic Gov. Jay Nixon on Wednesday. Why? There are three reasons, according to the state legislature’s judiciary committee. First, Nixon allowed legally-married same-sex couples in the state to file joint tax returns in order to keep the state consistent with the IRS’s post-Defense of Marriage Act policies. Second, Republicans argue Nixon took too long to call a special election to replace legislative vacancies. Third, Republicans believe that Nixon didn’t punish state officials enough over a controversy involving concealed carry permits.

So, will Nixon get impeached? It’s unlikely. Republicans control both the state’s House and Senate, but as the Washington Post notes, the bills probably won’t make it to a final vote in both houses of the legislature. Even if they did, the state constitution outlines that the governor can’t actually be removed from office unless five of seven state judges convict him.

news.yahoo.com

67 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:25:16am

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

I’ll just sign my zionist paycheck over to you for the next couple weeks …

:)

Should about cover it.

One of the displays from last year: The World Eaters at Istvaan 3

68 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:27:00am
69 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:27:45am

re: #67 Kragar

Should about cover it.

One of the displays from last year: The World Eaters at Istvaan 3

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and some men make model train boards… .

70 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 11:27:58am

re: #67 Kragar

Should about cover it.

One of the displays from last year: The World Eaters at Istvaan 3

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That’s a pretty high target concentration - what in the genre keeps regular artillery or cluster munitions from clobbering them?

71 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:28:38am

alcohol and guns DO NOT MIX.

Another of my Dear Ol’ Dad’s maxims.

72 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:29:10am

re: #58 Snarknado!

She was the perfect hire for a show of that name.

the show was named “Boiled Egg”?

73 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:31:44am

re: #61 Khal Wimpo

The National Rifle Association has praised the bill as “the most comprehensive pro-gun reform legislation introduced in recent state history” and called it a “historic victory for the second amendment.” Americans for Responsible Solutions, a gun control organization started by former Rep. Gabrille Giffords (D-Ariz.), fought to defeat the bill, calling it “the most extreme gun bill in America.”

I seriously wonder what was left on the board room floor. Would any of these people seriously walk into a local bar in which people were carrying?

What happened to checking your sidearm at the door?

74 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:32:09am

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s a pretty high target concentration - what in the genre keeps regular artillery or cluster munitions from clobbering them?

For this particular battle, which marked the beginning of the heresy, Loyalist troops were sent in first to take the planet and told to establish a beachhead for heavy weapons to be brought down later. Once they were engaged, Horus unleashed a biological weapon attack, killing the entire population of the planet and devastating the loyalist troops. The World Eaters then disobeyed Horus, didn’t wait for the orbital bombardment and chose to assault the remaining survivors on their own, staging a mass landing and full frontal assault.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:32:18am

Mohr rebranding!

76 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 11:33:44am

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

bars? WTF?

The one thing we now know for sure: the NRA owns America.

77 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 11:35:02am

Thought about making a post out of those tweets, but it would just be giving these weirdos more attention. At least I’ve posted some facts on Twitter to counteract this unbelievable relentless smear campaign the Greenwaldians have mounted.

79 EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2014 11:36:22am

re: #61 Khal Wimpo

I’d be more concerned with guns in bars in rural Georgia … and in the rowdy nightclubs around Atlanta. Or the almost-ubiquitous strip clubs. A couple of drunk knuckledraggers awash in hormones get into a dispute over who gets the next lap dance. Instead of going outside to briefly scuffle in the parking lot, they now have access to loaded weapons in a crowded room. Why, what could go wrong?

At some point, all the angry, paranoid wingnuts who feel the need to strap on a pistol so they can strut around and pretend to be a force of order in the world, are going to run into each other and make territorial displays. I’d dismiss the inevitable results of that as “evolution in action,” were it not for the tendency for stray bullets to hit people who are pretty much minding their own business. This is a fairly common occurrence in troubled, heavily armed areas of the 3rd World.

Turning the US into a troubled, heavily armed third world state is pretty much the NRA agenda.

80 Stanley Sea  Apr 23, 2014 11:36:23am

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

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Wow. I see Rhianna in there.

81 Bulworth  Apr 23, 2014 11:37:09am

I guess moar gunz are needed in churches in case some libtard preacher with a fancy academic preaching degree from the city starts talking about tolerance and diversity and such. ////

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:38:20am

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Wow. I see Rhianna in there.

ha! You’re correct!

83 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:39:00am
The problem here is obvious: the Court has basically said that an anonymous 911 call is sufficient all by itself to justify a police stop and subsequent search of a vehicle.

In this particular case, it’s likely that the 911 caller was entirely sincere. But that’s surely not always the case, and this decision gives police far greater discretion stop pretty much anyone they like for any reason. You don’t even need to roll your front bumper a foot over the limit line in an intersection to give them a pretext.

If we’re lucky, this case will become a footnote, with the precise nature of its facts giving it little value as precedent. But if we’re not so lucky, it’s yet another step in the Supreme Court’s decades-long project to chip away at the Fourth Amendment. When an unknown caller is all it takes to trigger a search, the entire notion of “probable cause” is pretty much consigned to the ash heap of history.

I don’t know how I feel about this.

84 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:40:20am

re: #81 Bulworth

I guess moar gunz are needed in churches in case some libtard preacher with a fancy academic preaching degree from the city starts talking about tolerance and diversity and such. ////

If Dr. Tiller had a gun … .

85 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 23, 2014 11:41:07am

re: #46 aagcobb

My wife’s asthma has been awful this spring; she’s barely been able to breathe. She went to the doctor and got some steroids yesterday. Of course here in Frankfort we are at ground zero for the worst allergy region in the nation.

Get some local honey. One teaspoon a day will kick back most of the allergy problems. Normally I’m sneezing and have itchy red eyes right now. Since we’ve been eating local honey it’s like the pollen doesn’t exist ( until I look at my car in the morning).

86 kirkspencer  Apr 23, 2014 11:41:09am

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s a pretty high target concentration - what in the genre keeps regular artillery or cluster munitions from clobbering them?

The fact that artillery is inaccurate, relatively uncommon, and has small effective burst radius.

(Hey, it’s fantasy fantastic SF that includes magic psionics, undead, and a host of other things that cannot stand cold reason. I play, but I do not defend.)

87 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:41:25am
88 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:41:56am

The trick is knowing when one is appropriate and the other is not.

I feel the Serenity Prayer coming on … .

89 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 11:42:11am

re: #83 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know how I feel about this.

What it’s probably going to take is a sufficiently large number of legislators and judges to be harassed by law enforcement, and the harassment to be legal due to all the chipping away that has been done. However, the way the unofficial influence and old boy networks operate you’ll never see it happen.

90 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 11:42:45am

re: #86 kirkspencer

The fact that artillery is inaccurate, relatively uncommon, and has small effective burst radius.

(Hey, it’s fantasy fantastic SF that includes magic psionics, undead, and a host of other things that cannot stand cold reason. I play, but I do not defend.)

The Loyalists didn’t have heavy support on Istvaan 3

I will defend it dammit!
/

91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 23, 2014 11:42:49am

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mohr rebranding!

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Yunno, the point of politics is to win people over to your point of view, not to brand those who disagree with you as “illiterates”, “parasites”,”traitors”, “moochers”, “terrorist sympathizers”, “losers”, etc…

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:44:45am

re: #83 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know how I feel about this.

Navarette vs. California

There’s your “reasonable suspicion”.

93 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:45:08am
94 EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2014 11:46:04am

re: #83 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know how I feel about this.

Finding myself in agreement with Scalia is always good for a WTF moment or two.

95 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 23, 2014 11:47:48am

re: #46 aagcobb

My wife’s asthma has been awful this spring; she’s barely been able to breathe. She went to the doctor and got some steroids yesterday. Of course here in Frankfort we are at ground zero for the worst allergy region in the nation.

Here on the Tenn-Ken boarder things are starting to bloom like crazy. I’m teaching from home this week, so I haven’t had to drive for a couple of days. Went out at lunch to get something from the car, the windshield looks like I’ve driven through a dust storm there is so much pollen on it.

I’m lucky, a couple of generic sinus gel-caps seems to handle it all for me.

RBS

96 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:48:17am
97 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:52:16am
98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 11:53:22am
99 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:53:58am
100 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 11:54:48am

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

Fox News anchor convention?

101 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:55:21am
102 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 23, 2014 11:55:45am

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

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Isn’t that Anne Coulter in the middle?

RBS

103 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 11:57:18am

re: #102 RealityBasedSteve

Isn’t that Anne Coulter in the middle?

RBS

don’t insult the hound. :(

104 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 23, 2014 11:59:31am

re: #83 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know how I feel about this.

I know how I feel - given that Thomas wrote the majority opinion the best way to describe this ruling is this:

A high tech lynching of the 4th Amendment.

105 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 12:01:34pm

re: #104 William Barnett-Lewis

I know how I feel - given that Thomas wrote the majority opinion the best way to describe this ruling is this:

A high tech lynching of the 4th Amendment.

I”m way behind on my SCOTUS knowledge.

I just yesterday hear about the Monsanto GMA debacle.

106 FemNaziBitch  Apr 23, 2014 12:02:04pm

bbl

107 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 23, 2014 12:06:32pm

How dare Ukraine keep their troops in Ukraine territory!

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 12:09:19pm

lol

109 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 12:10:11pm
110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 12:12:01pm
111 calochortus  Apr 23, 2014 12:16:56pm

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

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Nevada does have springs. They create incredibly beautiful areas like Ash Meadows and look nothing like Florida. If the government (federal and state) weren’t protecting them, many probably would have been developed or otherwise damaged. Las Vegas exists because of the springs there.

112 Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2014 12:17:27pm

If the Reagan quotes don’t sink Paul, this will.

Rand Paul: GOP ‘May Have Over-Emphasized’ Voter Fraud Fears

huffingtonpost.com

113 Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2014 12:17:38pm

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL, the top photo is Fairchild Tropical Garden, in FLORIDA!

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Holy crap! Please tell me that’s satire.

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 12:18:19pm
115 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 12:19:06pm

re: #96 FemNaziBitch

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That’s not a lamb, it’s a kid.

/I’ll fact-check your asses, too.

116 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 23, 2014 12:19:11pm
117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 12:19:42pm

re: #111 calochortus

Nevada does have springs. They create incredibly beautiful areas like Ash Meadows and look nothing like Florida. If the government (federal and state) weren’t protecting them, many probably would have been developed or otherwise damaged. Las Vegas exists because of the springs there.

If there was a single spring where Bundy was grazing his cattle, I have no doubt he let the cattle trample and foul it, without a single thought or regret.

118 Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2014 12:23:05pm

re: #48 Skip Intro

Oh, this is going to end well.

119 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 12:23:21pm

I finally blocked Mona.

What took me so long, I don’t know.

120 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 12:24:57pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

I finally blocked Mona.

What took me so long, I don’t know.

Her smile?

121 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 23, 2014 12:28:46pm
122 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 12:28:59pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

Saw a little bit of your “discussion” with her. But with someone like this, there’s really no point in even trying to engage. She’s hooking up with the stalkers because she’s the same personality type.

123 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 12:31:38pm
124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2014 12:33:02pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

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jeez. I read something yesterday where the Dutch ran off some Russian planes that entered THEIR airspace.

125 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 23, 2014 12:33:35pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Also, roadrunners can fly.

126 b_sharp  Apr 23, 2014 12:34:58pm

re: #125 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Also, roadrunners can fly.

Nuh uh!

Next thing you’ll try to tell us bunnies can’t dig tunnels really fast.

127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 23, 2014 12:35:07pm

re: #125 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Also, roadrunners can fly.

and coyotes cannot build catapults, rocket sleds, bat wing outfits, giant cannons, etc…

128 b_sharp  Apr 23, 2014 12:37:20pm

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and coyotes cannot build catapults, rocket sleds, bat wing outfits, giant cannons, etc…

Bull!

They can as long as ACME will ship to their location.

129 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 12:39:21pm

re: #128 b_sharp

Bull!

They can as long as ACME will ship to their location.

Someone with a sense of humor should dummy up an ACME crate with a mix of odd items, or something weird like a “bat suit”, and send it to the Bundy Compound.

130 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 12:43:36pm

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How long until they start branding him a WINO: Wingnut in Name Only?

today’s winner of the internetses!

131 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 12:44:26pm

I spent 2 days warning the team “if we do it that way, things will be fucked up.”

“Management says to do it that way, so just do it.”

Today management wants to know why things are fucked up, and I am plum out of fucks to give.

132 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 12:44:36pm

what he claimed was Reagan’s embrace of “strategic ambiguity.”

i must say i’ve always admired reagan’s success with his technique of “Strategic Stupidity”

133 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 23, 2014 12:44:54pm
134 lawhawk  Apr 23, 2014 12:48:53pm
135 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 12:49:40pm

re: #131 Kragar

I spent 2 days warning the team “if we do it that way, things will be fucked up.”

“Management says to do it that way, so just do it.”

Today management wants to know why things are fucked up, and I am plum out of fucks to give.

Sounds like a place where in the leadership it is more important to be right than right.

136 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 12:49:49pm

The deficit went through the roof under Reagan. So how long did it take Ron Paul to figure out that the guy he had liked, endorsed, campaigned for, campaigned for him? The very first [Reagan] budget. Ron Paul voted “no” against the very first Reagan budget… Everybody loved this “great” budget. It was a $100 billion in debt. This was three times greater than Jimmy Carter’s worst deficit.

i predict dnar will soon say that he has since discovered that democrats were in charge of the house during this time

something he didn’t know before

137 Lidane  Apr 23, 2014 12:51:16pm
138 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 12:52:13pm

re: #135 Feline Fearless Leader

Sounds like a place where in the leadership it is more important to be right than right.

They said they wanted if by Friday. I told them it would take a week just to sort out the groups they gave us. They said don’t bother sorting it, just scan it.

Clusterfuck ensues.

139 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 12:54:38pm

re: #138 Kragar

They said they wanted if by Friday. I told them it would take a week just to sort out the groups they gave us. They said don’t bother sorting it, just scan it.

Clusterfuck ensues.

They would only have reconsidered if they had an expensive consultant on-site tell them that it would take longer to do correctly?

140 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 12:54:49pm

We’ve got some boxes scanning dead air, some scanning a few dozen subnets at most, while others are scanning duplicates networks or being allocated far beyond the 65k license limit.

But hey, we’ll be done by Friday.
/

141 b_sharp  Apr 23, 2014 12:57:04pm

re: #140 Kragar

We’ve got some boxes scanning dead air, some scanning a few dozen subnets at most, while others are scanning duplicates networks or being allocated far beyond the 65k license limit.

But hey, we’ll be done by Friday.
/

WTF are you doing?

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 23, 2014 12:57:35pm

This stupid fucking meme again.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 12:57:46pm

re: #140 Kragar

We’ve got some boxes scanning dead air, some scanning a few dozen subnets at most, while others are scanning duplicates networks or being allocated far beyond the 65k license limit.

But hey, we’ll be done by Friday.
/

And the beatings will continue until morale improves.
/

144 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 12:58:09pm

re: #141 b_sharp

WTF are you doing?

Heartbleed vulnerability scanning for people who would rather be fast than correct

145 Emoprog Refugee  Apr 23, 2014 12:58:52pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Yes, but there’s one, tiny positive result of her having done so: I was unaware that accounts here were automatically suspended for inactivity.
This prompted me to log in and post just to keep my account active. I really do love this site, despite my astonishing lack of contribution, and would hate to have my account suspended.
Since I’m here, Hello Lizards!

146 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 12:59:43pm

re: #142 Pie-onist Overlord

Socialism and totalitarianism

i’ve double checked the dictionaries recently and it seems ‘socialism’ continues to mean something other than what these morons think it means

147 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 1:01:06pm

re: #144 Kragar

Heartbleed vulnerability scanning for people who would rather be fast than correct

there was a sign at hewlett packard when i was contracted there

Good. Fast. Cheap.

pick two

148 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 1:01:18pm

re: #134 lawhawk

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I didn’t rtwt, but it not only looks like a good article, it looks like a good site.

149 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:02:20pm

re: #147 dog philosopher

there was a sign at hewlett packard when i was contracted there

They’ve dropped the good since you worked for them

150 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 23, 2014 1:02:49pm

Yeah right.

151 JustMark  Apr 23, 2014 1:02:53pm

re: #93 FemNaziBitch

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Good, they were looking a bit rotund…

152 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:05:02pm
153 Lidane  Apr 23, 2014 1:05:39pm

re: #150 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah right.

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Because a bunch of neckbeard yokels with AR-15s stand a chance against their local SWAT team, much less the same military that spends more than the next dozen nations COMBINED.

154 Bulworth  Apr 23, 2014 1:06:30pm

Kragar

I spent 2 days warning the team “if we do it that way, things will be fucked up.”

——-

But why didn’t you warn them?!?!?!?!?1111

155 Lidane  Apr 23, 2014 1:06:58pm
156 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:07:00pm

re: #150 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah right.

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Uh huh. Stupid morons and their delusions of persecution.

157 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:07:55pm

re: #155 Lidane

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That’s really pathetic. But just like the GOP too.

158 Bear  Apr 23, 2014 1:08:05pm

Broke down and got new “puter. Windows 8.1 What a pain in the ass.

159 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 23, 2014 1:09:46pm

re: #128 b_sharp

Bull!

They can as long as ACME will ship to their location.

The ORIGINAL Illustrated Catalog of ACME Products. Where Quality is our #1 dream.

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 23, 2014 1:12:03pm

re: #158 Bear

Broke down and got new “puter. Windows 8.1 What a pain in the ass.

Good way to fix it right here: xubuntu.org

161 petesh  Apr 23, 2014 1:12:38pm

re: #147 dog philosopher

Nice, he said, not only to keep himself active.

162 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 1:12:48pm

re: #159 RealityBasedSteve

The ORIGINAL Illustrated Catalog of ACME Products. Where Quality is our #1 dream.

Bundy could use the artificial rock. But probably especially needs a clue collector.
/ ;P

163 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 1:14:11pm

Oh yeah, somebody’s birthday is today.

164 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:14:43pm
165 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 1:16:10pm

re: #164 Kragar

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I notice only the outer two are capable of accessing a holster.

166 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:17:46pm
167 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 23, 2014 1:17:48pm

re: #164 Kragar

What do you call the two big guys in the middle?

Cover.

RBS

168 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:18:22pm

re: #167 RealityBasedSteve

What do you call the two big guys in the middle?

Cover.

RBS

Champions of Nurgle, obviously

169 kirkspencer  Apr 23, 2014 1:18:30pm

re: #90 Kragar

The Loyalists didn’t have heavy support on Istvaan 3

I will defend it dammit!
/

re: #149 Kragar

They’ve dropped the good since you worked for them

Eh, they did for a while. On the other hand every tech producing (hard or soft) that’s been in existence more than five years has gone through the hubris cycle.

From what I can see they’re back.

170 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:18:44pm

re: #166 Kragar

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You just brought up why they’re hypocrites. They claim to venerate the military yet they despise the federal government.

171 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 23, 2014 1:19:49pm

re: #166 Kragar

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The military obeys orders. Unlike the Oathbreaker numbnuts.

172 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:19:59pm

Seems to me, Obama’s been president for just over five years now. If Obama were Hitler, you’d think we’d at least have one death camp open by now. You’d also think that at least one political party would have been banned during his presidency.

173 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:20:23pm

re: #171 William Barnett-Lewis

The military obeys orders. Unlike the Oathbreaker numbnuts.

and respects the military oath regardless of who is president.

174 kirkspencer  Apr 23, 2014 1:20:27pm

re: #166 Kragar

They are utterly convinced that the military will be 100% on their side. It’s this that keeps me predicting blood on the ground in the future.

175 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:21:47pm

re: #174 kirkspencer

They are utterly convinced that the military will be 100% on their side. It’s this that keeps me predicting blood on the ground in the future.

They’re convinced that most if not every single member of the military shares their deranged hatred of Obama and all things left wing. They don’t realize that one, military members sign up to protect their country and aren’t thinking about politics and two, the military has never been just for right wing assholes like themselves.

176 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 23, 2014 1:22:19pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

and respects the military oath regardless of who is president.

I served under Reagan. If I can stomach that fool as a leader, Obama should be a cakewalk. At least he doesn’t cut and run after losing hundreds of Marines.

177 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 1:23:57pm

re: #174 kirkspencer

They are utterly convinced that the military will be 100% on their side. It’s this that keeps me predicting blood on the ground in the future.

They’re convinced that, when the flag goes up, the military will either side with them or will simply refuse to take up arms and let them rolls into DC to take the President prisoner for “war crimes” or “treason.”

178 Lidane  Apr 23, 2014 1:24:28pm

I don’t think this is what Jesus had in mind with that whole Christianity thing:

179 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:26:28pm

re: #178 Lidane

I don’t think this is what Jesus had in mind with that whole Christianity thing:

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I want Rios to explain how her thought process is different from Osama Bin Laden’s. Really this is fucking sick. But thanks Sandy for showing why the Christian Right has more in common with Islamists than secularists could ever dream of.

180 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:27:11pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

They’re convinced that, when the flag goes up, the military will either side with them or will simply refuse to take up arms and let them rolls into DC to take the President prisoner for “war crimes” or “treason.”

They’re in for a rude awakening when Obama fades off into retirement and isn’t brought to a wingnut kangaroo court.

181 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 1:27:50pm

Oh, to our Virginia lizards, if you have some pressing matters that require a visit to government offices, I’d suggest hurrying:

182 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:30:50pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

Oh, to our Virginia lizards, if you have some pressing matters that require a visit to government offices, I’d suggest hurrying:

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Damn, hadn’t heard about that. This shit is really getting pathetic.

183 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 23, 2014 1:32:54pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I want Rios to explain how her thought process is different from Osama Bin Laden’s. Really this is fucking sick. But thanks Sandy for showing why the Christian Right has more in common with Islamists than secularists could ever dream of.

She told one listener, Michael, that all Americans — not just Bostonians — are responsible for the looming attacks that she said will occur because the country has not paid enough attention God and is ignoring his moral laws. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

So Sandy, please answer me this… when did God turn his back on us for not following moral law.

Was it when we systematically engaged in the destruction of Native Americans?

Was it when we enshrined in law the right of one person to own another person?

Was it when those people who WERE property were then denied their rights as citizens by law, by violence and by the institutions?

Was it when women were viewed as inferior to men, and given only partial rights?

I’d wait patiently for an answer, but I know you don’t have one.

RBS
These people disgust me.

184 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:35:13pm

re: #183 RealityBasedSteve

So Sandy, please answer me this… when did God turn his back on us for not following moral law.

Was it when we systematically engaged in the destruction of Native Americans?

Was it when we enshrined in law the right of one person to own another person?

Was it when those people who WERE property were then denied their rights as citizens by law, by violence and by the institutions?

Was it when women were viewed as inferior to men, and given only partial rights?

I’d wait patiently for an answer, but I know you don’t have one.

RBS
These people disgust me.

Seriously, that’s what disgusts me most about them too. They think that their idea of God would have tolerated what you mention but will destroy our country over something like giving gay and lesbian couples the same rights as heterosexual ones. As I said, her mindset to me is really no different from Bin Laden’s. I really do think that the Religious Right is perhaps the most dangerous political movement in the country along with the anti-vaxxers.

185 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 1:36:33pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Damn, hadn’t heard about that. This shit is really getting pathetic.

It’s the first I’m hearing of it. Not surprising, considering how much Republicans here ran on the election being yet another referendum on Obamacare.

186 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 1:39:39pm

Twitter’s down.

187 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:40:20pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

It’s the first I’m hearing of it. Not surprising, considering how much Republicans here ran on the election being yet another referendum on Obamacare.

Yeah it’s not. I am really nervous about the Congressional primary here with Wolf retiring. Wouldn’t shock me at all if the GOP nominates Bob Marshall for the seat and he could well win since this district is much more red than Connolly and Moran’s.

188 b_sharp  Apr 23, 2014 1:40:22pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

Twitter’s down.

Twitter’s up.

189 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 1:40:37pm

And now it’s back. That was a quick one.

190 Jack Burton  Apr 23, 2014 1:41:47pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

Twitter’s down.

For the past couple of minutes I couldn’t get to several sites. Twitter, anything hosted by Google, my work VPN… it might have been something more widespread. Routing problems at a major backbone provider?

191 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:42:22pm
192 Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2014 1:42:59pm

re: #190 Jack Burton

For the past couple of minutes I couldn’t get to several sites. Twitter, anything hosted by Google, my work VPN… it might have been something more widespread. Routing problems at a major backbone provider?

Could be. Tweetdeck also froze for a couple of minutes.

193 jaunte  Apr 23, 2014 1:46:00pm

re: #191 Kragar

Nice work reducing another twitter militia fan to “we shall see.”

194 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:47:58pm

re: #193 jaunte

Nice work reducing another twitter militia fan to “we shall see.”

Its really all they have in the first place

195 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 23, 2014 1:48:48pm

re: #191 Kragar

I’d toss them a box of donuts and watch them turn on each other @vidiotfl @TheXclass @viciousbabushka @KarrattiPaul

Extra updings for life.

I’m so tired of hearing from gun owners that they are so #$!#@$#@$ tough. If you can’t make a convincing argument threaten your opponent.

196 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:51:21pm

So for the record, Obama is just like Hitler, except he doesn’t round up dissident, silence his opponents or use troops against people who oppose him.

But still totally like Hitler.
///

197 jaunte  Apr 23, 2014 1:52:06pm

re: #196 Kragar

Any minute now.

198 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 1:52:11pm

re: #196 Kragar

So for the record, Obama is just like Hitler, except he doesn’t round up dissident, silence his opponents or use troops against people who oppose him.

But still totally like Hitler.
///

Oh, and totally like Stalin, except no gulags, summary executions, or kangaroo trials for his political opponents.

199 Jack Burton  Apr 23, 2014 1:52:15pm

re: #194 Kragar

Its really all they have in the first place

I’m convinced that’s part of the reason they are jumping all over the Bundy Ranch situation. They think it’s their chance to prove to all the “libtards” that the 2nd Amendment alone really can halt “tyranny” in the 21st century.

Your redneck with AR vs professional soldier with tank argument is invalid commie!

or some shit…

200 jaunte  Apr 23, 2014 1:52:21pm

Be on your guard.

201 Timothy Watson  Apr 23, 2014 1:52:34pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

Oh, to our Virginia lizards, if you have some pressing matters that require a visit to government offices, I’d suggest hurrying:

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Won’t possibly be a problem until after June 30th when the fiscal year rolls over.

202 jaunte  Apr 23, 2014 1:53:09pm

Buy gold / seeds / a year’s supply of everything.

203 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 1:53:27pm

re: #196 Kragar

So for the record, Obama is just like Hitler, except he doesn’t round up dissident, silence his opponents or use troops against people who oppose him.

But still totally like Hitler.
///

He only hasn’t done it because of the second amendment. Seems to me that a truly ruthless dictator wouldn’t care. They want Obama both ways though- bumbling incompetent fool who also is the worst mass murderer this country has ever seen.

204 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 1:54:49pm

re: #199 Jack Burton

I’m convinced that’s part of the reason they are jumping all over the Bundy Ranch situation. They think it’s their chance to prove to all the “libtards” that the 2nd Amendment alone really can halt “tyranny” in the 21st century.

Your redneck with AR vs professional soldier with tank argument is invalid commie!

or some shit…

Even though, if they truly were dealing with a tyrannical government, they wouldn’t have sent federal agents, they would have rolled in the Army and simply shot anyone who got in the way. And Bundy would not be sitting on his fat ass, laughing to the press, he’d be sitting a jail cell while awaiting trial where the guilty verdict is never in doubt.

205 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:57:12pm
206 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 1:57:39pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

Oh, and totally like Stalin, except no gulags, summary executions, or kangaroo trials for his political opponents.

And completely 100% like Idi Amin, except he hasn’t captured and murdered nearly 500,000 opponents.

207 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 1:57:44pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

Hey now!

Bundy is already guilty. He had his trials and lost.

208 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 1:59:00pm

re: #205 Kragar

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Swear to God, it’ll be Inauguration Day 2017 and they’ll still be convinced that he’s waiting til they let down their guard to declare martial law, seize control of the government, and begin his reign of terror.

209 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 2:00:01pm

re: #205 Kragar

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Seems to me that Obama if he wanted to take away the guns would have done so when he had a huge majority of his own party in both houses of Congress but then again I am not a sheep who believes anything the NRA and GOA tell me because I’m paranoid and feel I need a personal arsenal to protect me against Obama.

210 jaunte  Apr 23, 2014 2:00:33pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Then, the story will be that Obama was the head-fake Antichrist, meant to distract everyone from the coming of the Beast, Hillary Clinton.

211 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 2:00:36pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Swear to God, it’ll be Inauguration Day 2017 and they’ll still be convinced that he’s waiting til they let down their guard to declare martial law, seize control of the government, and begin his reign of terror.

They’ll be saying on his death bed that “You know he would have but we didn’t let him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

212 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 2:00:43pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

And Bundy would not be sitting on his fat ass, laughing to the press, he’d be sitting a jail cell while awaiting trial where the guilty verdict is never in doubt.

Or they would be scraping him off some tank tread……

213 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 2:00:58pm

re: #210 jaunte

Then, the story will be that Obama was the head-fake Antichrist, meant to distract everyone from the coming of the Beast, Hillary Clinton.

And the circle of wingnut life will go on.

214 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 2:01:47pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

They’ll be saying on his death bed that “You know he would have but we didn’t let him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

I was just about to say that, the moment he’s gone from office, they’ll be patting themselves on the back and declaring that it was only their “vigilance” that kept him from seizing total control.

215 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 2:01:49pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Swear to God, it’ll be Inauguration Day 2017 and they’ll still be convinced that he’s waiting til they let down their guard to declare martial law, seize control of the government, and begin his reign of terror.

And it will be known as the “Benghazi Rapture”.
///

216 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 2:03:20pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Swear to God, it’ll be Inauguration Day 2017 and they’ll still be convinced that he’s waiting til they let down their guard to declare martial law, seize control of the government, and begin his reign of terror.

Inauguration Day 2017 the RWNJ meme will be: “We resisted! We Won! Obama feared us and couldn’t take away our guns!”

….that rhymes,…

217 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 2:07:04pm

Sen. Paul, you have a call on the white courtesy phone. Sen. Paul, white courtesy phone.

218 Lidane  Apr 23, 2014 2:09:35pm

LOLWUT:

219 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 2:10:51pm
220 HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2014 2:11:29pm

re: #218 Lidane

LOLWUT:

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I think I know how WND comes up with their conspiracies. They’re playing Mad-Libs.

221 Lidane  Apr 23, 2014 2:14:47pm
222 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 2:15:25pm

re: #219 Kragar

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“Having served in the military…,” when uttered by a wingnut, pretty much means everything that comes after is utter bullshit.

223 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 2:17:09pm

re: #218 Lidane

WND’s new birther conspiracy involves nukes, pedophiles, Tony Blair, Madeleine McCann and MH370

what about the scented massage oil and bowling balls???

224 Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2014 2:18:01pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

“Having served in the military…,” when uttered by a wingnut, pretty much means everything that comes after is utter bullshit.

“Having served in the military…..every evening on XBOX call of duty, I have a KDR of 1.13 while slaying libtard commie islamo-fascists”

225 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 2:18:27pm

“Having served in the military, I’m absolutely sure that the majority of the military would join me and my militia buddies in committing treason!”

226 Kragar  Apr 23, 2014 2:18:35pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

“Having served in the military…,” when uttered by a wingnut, pretty much means everything that comes after is utter bullshit.

Pretty much. Its how they say “I’m a veteran, so you don’t dare contradict me!”

227 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 23, 2014 2:20:51pm

re: #196 Kragar

So for the record, Obama is just like Hitler, except he doesn’t round up dissident, silence his opponents or use troops against people who oppose him.

But still totally like Hitler.
///

And these guys who complain about Obama being “Hitler” all have Teh Hots for Vlad Putin.

228 Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2014 2:22:29pm

re: #227 Pie-onist Overlord

And these guys who complain about Obama being “Hitler” all have Teh Hots for Vlad Putin.

He’s ever so dreamy, riding shirtless on horseback, shooting an AK-47, and looking ever so totally manly!

229 dog philosopher  Apr 23, 2014 2:25:52pm

re: #226 Kragar

Pretty much. Its how they say “I’m a veteran, so you don’t dare contradict me!”

but also you’re likely to find that they think that since you disagree with them, you’re a “liberal” who, as such, would never have been man enough to serve in the military

and therefore you stand in awe of their hairy cojones

230 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 23, 2014 2:34:01pm

re: #229 dog philosopher

but also you’re likely to find that they think that since you disagree with them, you’re a “liberal” who, as such, would never have been man enough to serve in the military

and therefore you stand in awe of their hairy cojones

I find that attitude pretty laughable since the daughter of one of my family’s neighbors was one of the first women to attend and graduate West Point. And she is currently faculty at the Air Force Academy.

231 darthstar  Apr 23, 2014 2:41:41pm

All hail the sacred drooler, Ronald Reagan. Crazy, addled fucker. This will be great help to Rand Paul I’m sure.

232 Special Forces Grunt  Apr 23, 2014 2:58:44pm

Reagan did bust the budget, but he mostly spent money on defense (Star Wars, etc.) and broke the Soviet Union in the process. Some folks thought that was a good thing.

233 wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2014 3:00:22pm

re: #232 Special Forces Grunt

Fastest post-and-run of the year to date.

234 Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2014 3:06:59pm

re: #146 dog philosopher

i’ve double checked the dictionaries recently and it seems ‘socialism’ continues to mean something other than what these morons think it means

Several years ago on a politics and current events forum I used to hang at, some one from the UK asked, “Why do Americans get so freaked by socialism?”

My reply? “In America socialism is a codeword for unfettered evil! (Add a cool reverb and sound effect to get the right meaning.)” Yes I even coloured the same words because in America ‘socialism’ appears in people’s minds in shades that are evocative of wickedness.

She finally understood.

235 Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2014 3:10:32pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

They’re convinced that, when the flag goes up, the military will either side with them or will simply refuse to take up arms and let them rolls into DC to take the President prisoner for “war crimes” or “treason.” being an n-word in the White House.

FTFY.

236 makeitstop  Apr 23, 2014 3:33:15pm

re: #210 jaunte

head-fake Antichrist

Band name alert.

237 makeitstop  Apr 23, 2014 3:35:51pm

re: #218 Lidane

LOLWUT:

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I could have sworn that said ‘Madeline Kahn.’

238 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 23, 2014 6:34:47pm

re: #232 Special Forces Grunt

Reagan did bust the budget, but he mostly spent money on defense (Star Wars, etc.) and broke the Soviet Union in the process. Some folks thought that was a good thing.

Neither of those things are true.


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