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1 nines09  Apr 24, 2014 4:57:29pm

Sean Hannity and the Great Bundy Love Fest and subsequent fire drill from the burning building formerly known as Cliven Bundy will be a trove of timeless treasure for the wit of Jon Stewart. This is a comedy shows writers dream. Priceless.

2 Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2014 5:02:50pm

You really couldn’t have written a better ending to this mini-feud. Hannity brought this on himself, and we know he doesn’t have the balls to do more now than run from it. He bet the farm on Bundy no embarrassing and he lost. I don’t think he has it in himself to admit as much and apologize for the way he’s acted over the past two weeks.

3 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:04:17pm

Still the same dumb, stupid, bigoted and ignorant wingnuts as ever. It’s amazing.

4 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 5:06:15pm

re: #3 Gus

Still the same dumb, stupid, bigoted and ignorant wingnuts as ever. It’s amazing.

I’m not really all that surprised, anymore.

5 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:07:17pm

Charles. Something’s wrong here. The videos audio is like in slo-mo.

6 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 5:07:44pm

Just call me Mr. Unhinged.

7 nines09  Apr 24, 2014 5:08:13pm

Using the very video tape and actual recorded words of the person speaking them is a lie. Media twisting the facts. No shame for shameless people. BUNDY!

8 jaunte  Apr 24, 2014 5:08:20pm

re: #3 Gus

Still the same dumb, stupid, bigoted and ignorant wingnuts as ever. It’s amazing.

Diehards:

9 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:09:05pm
10 nines09  Apr 24, 2014 5:10:16pm

re: #9 Gus

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Indeed. I hear it’s a new Republican Jobs Plan.

11 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:10:53pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Just call me Mr. Unhinged.

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She’s been to the stalker site, and she can say ‘supposedly “stalk”’? She’s beyond unhinged. She’s undoored.

12 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 5:11:17pm
13 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 5:12:39pm

I guess Mona thinks it isn’t obvious that the Mighty Greenwald deliberately linked to the stalkers’ site to sic them on me. I’m sure it took him about 10 seconds after he first saw the site to figure out how he could use them; they’re not exactly hard to manipulate.

14 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2014 5:12:48pm
16 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 5:14:32pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I guess Mona thinks it isn’t obvious that the Mighty Greenwald deliberately linked to the stalkers’ site to sic them on me. I’m sure it took him about 10 seconds after he first saw the site to figure out how he could use them; they’re not exactly hard to manipulate.

And now it all becomes clear. It hadn’t occurred to me that The Hypnowald might have had a reason to choose the stalker blog besides just agreeing with him on how evil you are.

17 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 5:14:33pm

re: #5 Gus

Charles. Something’s wrong here. The videos audio is like in slo-mo.

Hmm, odd - no problem like that on this end.

18 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:14:40pm

Audio is not working on both videos here. Super slo-mo audio with regular speed video.

19 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:15:00pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

Audio is not working on both videos here. Super slo-mo audio with regular speed video.

Communism!

20 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:15:22pm

re: #15 Gus

Related:

About Scott Terry - CPAC Slavery Defender and “Disenfranchised Whites” Illustrated

That’s a hell of a Page. Good work.

21 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 5:15:55pm

Show business!

22 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:16:01pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

That’s a hell of a Page. Good work.

Gracias. I feel like Tweeting it but I think I did yesterady.

23 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 5:16:03pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

Audio is not working on both videos here. Super slo-mo audio with regular speed video.

That’s strange. No problems with audio or video when I played them a few minutes ago.

24 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:16:18pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

That’s a hell of a Page. Good work.

But that’s not a new page. In case.

25 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:16:49pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Hmm, odd - no problem like that on this end.

I reloaded the page. Still like WW says as well. First time ever happened. Weird.

26 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 5:17:15pm

re: #24 Gus

But that’s not a new page. In case.

A troll-hammer for use vs. neo-confederates will (unfortunately) remain useful indefinitely.

27 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:18:56pm

Logged off. Cleared everything. Same thing.

28 jaunte  Apr 24, 2014 5:19:39pm

The trick to self-sufficiency is apparently just to steal what you need from the public.

29 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 5:19:43pm

re: #27 Gus

Logged off. Cleared everything. Same thing.

Kick it. Percussive maintenance cures many of this world’s ills.

30 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:20:19pm

re: #24 Gus

But that’s not a new page. In case.

I re-read it yesterday after seeing you tweet it. Updinged it when originally posted. It’s a Classic!

31 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 24, 2014 5:20:44pm

working fine for me. Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116, Win 7

RBS

32 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 5:21:50pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I guess Mona thinks it isn’t obvious that the Mighty Greenwald deliberately linked to the stalkers’ site to sic them on me. I’m sure it took him about 10 seconds after he first saw the site to figure out how he could use them; they’re not exactly hard to manipulate.

Is there any actual history between you and Mona, that she thinks you once said or did something to set her off, or is she just a random psychopath who is going after you as an offering to Teh Overglenn?

33 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:22:22pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

I re-read it yesterday after seeing you tweet it. Updinged it when originally posted. It’s a Classic!

Thanks. I’m sure Cliven Bundy would love their company. They both turned out to be real neo-Nazis. Who’d of thought.

34 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 5:22:47pm

OK - I added the non-MP4 videos above for those of you having trouble. Comedy Central’s embedded videos have been weird lately.

35 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 5:23:03pm

re: #32 Pie-onist Overlord

Is there any actual history between you and Mona, that >she thinks you once said or did something to set her off, or is she just a random psychopath who is going after you as an offering to Teh Overglenn?

I was pretty sure that I’ve heard Mona’s name around here before. But I can’t recall whatever for.

36 CuriousLurker  Apr 24, 2014 5:24:36pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Hmm, odd - no problem like that on this end.

It appears to be a FF-only problem on my end. They play fine on Safari, Chrome, and IE11 on Win7. I encountered the same issue with Stewart’s videos a couple of days ago.

37 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:25:01pm

re: #32 Pie-onist Overlord

Is there any actual history between you and Mona, that >she thinks you once said or did something to set her off, or is she just a random psychopath who is going after you as an offering to Teh Overglenn?

She says she posted here and criticized the hate then (like 10 years ago), just like she’s so nobly doing now.

38 Skip Intro  Apr 24, 2014 5:25:35pm

Meanwhile, deadbeat dad Joe Walsh ain’t having none of this libturd crap about poor, oppressed, welfare king Cliven Bundy.

Youtube Video

39 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:29:33pm

re: #36 CuriousLurker

It appears to be a FF-only problem on my end. They play fine on Safari, Chrome, and IE11 on Win7. I encountered the same issue with Stewart’s videos a couple of days ago.

Bugzilla™

40 Timothy Watson  Apr 24, 2014 5:32:02pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

OK - I added the non-MP4 videos above for those of you having trouble. Comedy Central’s embedded videos have been weird lately.

It looks like they at least disabled that autoplay crap. I absolutely hate autoplay audio/video.

41 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 5:32:06pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

She says she posted here and criticized the hate then (like 10 years ago), just like she’s so nobly doing now.

Hmm. I detect an odor of bovine excrement.

42 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 5:36:22pm
43 Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2014 5:37:27pm

re: #42 Kragar

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But hey, we need to give up all federal land to the states, because they’ll be good stewards of the land.

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44 Bear  Apr 24, 2014 5:38:29pm

re: #42 Kragar

May be in deep do do.

45 Belafon  Apr 24, 2014 5:39:51pm

re: #42 Kragar

Wasn’t there a movie about this involving a little girl and a television?

46 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:40:01pm

re: #41 thedopefishlives

Hmm. I detect an odor of bovine excrement.

Here’s a comment from a Mona who loves Hitchens the way Mona H. loves Greenwald. Low commant total, and I only saw 9 of them. No LGF criticism. In fact, she mentions ‘Islamic lunacy’.

Moreover, Hitchens has long been close friends with Salman Rushdie, and it was when the jihadists issued their murderous fatwa on his pal that Hitchens first began to really take a look at Islamic lunacy. In particular, he was less than impressed with the literary set which, even back then, seemed all too interested in “undersanding” what about Rushdie’s work was offensive to the Muslims.

47 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 5:42:07pm

Sorry we arrested you, come back soon!
Buddha tattoo woman flies from Sri Lanka ‘with apology’

A British tourist arrested in Sri Lanka because she had a Buddha tattoo on her arm said she has been offered a holiday in the country “as an apology”.

Naomi Coleman will arrive in London later, following a deportation order, as a court refused her permission to continue travelling to The Maldives.

Police said she was arrested for “hurting others’ religious feelings” when she arrived at the airport in the Sri Lankan capital Colombo on Monday.

The holiday offer was made as she left.

48 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:43:02pm

Oooh, she’s a lawyer. Could be her.

#89, I also am a lawyer and affirm that the Killian Estate has no standing to sue; as you say, the dead cannot be defamed.

However, General Staudt AND George Bush have grounds to sue. Bush won’t, because he has taken the high ground, and it would be a meaningless distraction if he is reelected.

However, and tho I am not a prosecutor, I strongly suspect there must be applicable state and federal (and military) penal provisions that cover forging documents purported to be written by a member of the military in that capacity.

—Mona—

49 Emoprog Refugee  Apr 24, 2014 5:43:05pm

re: #5 Gus

Charles. Something’s wrong here. The videos audio is like in slo-mo.

I had the same issue, but I figure it’s just my old laptop not being up to snuff. The daily show buttons work fine, although I think the second button links to the same video as the first button (only watched the first few seconds of the second one).

50 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:43:32pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

Here’s a comment from a Mona who loves Hitchens the way Mona H. loves Greenwald. Low commant total, and I only saw 9 of them. No LGF criticism. In fact, she mentions ‘Islamic lunacy’.

Hitchens ruled. Anyway. Mona is registered at LGF?!?!?

51 Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2014 5:45:21pm

re: #45 Belafon

Wasn’t there a movie about this involving a little girl and a television?

“You son of a bitch, you left the bodies and you only moved the headstones!”

/

52 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 5:45:35pm

re: #49 Emoprog Refugee

I had the same issue, but I figure it’s just my old laptop not being up to snuff. The daily show buttons work fine, although I think the second button links to the same video as the first button (only watched the first few seconds of the second one).

You’re right - I fixed the second one.

53 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 5:46:48pm

Not really up to any whining about Hitchens either.

54 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:47:36pm

re: #50 Gus

Hitchens ruled. Anyway. Mona is registered at LGF?!?!?

This ‘Mona’ is not blocked. But:

1 Mona 5/20/2005 5:30:56 pm PDT

Part II is also up. And is superlative.

(I never comment here anymore, but felt moved.)

55 darthstar  Apr 24, 2014 5:48:04pm
56 Emoprog Refugee  Apr 24, 2014 5:48:39pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I should have read the whole thread before commenting, sorry, and thanks for the links.
Edited to add: perhaps I should learn to read. Thanks for fixing the second link!

57 darthstar  Apr 24, 2014 5:49:17pm

Michael Eric Dyson made this point on All In tonight.

58 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 5:50:06pm

re: #57 darthstar

Michael Eric Dyson made this point on All In tonight.

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Heh. I keep thinking of him as ‘Cloven’ too.

59 sagehen  Apr 24, 2014 5:53:13pm

re: #9 Gus

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Except when they had to beat the crap out of one every few days, “to encourage the others.”

60 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 5:55:23pm

re: #57 darthstar

Michael Eric Dyson made this point on All In tonight.

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A lot of elected Republicans have been saying it. Bundy was just more crude.

61 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 5:56:34pm

meanwhile in Oregon
Oregon gets ready to jettison healthcare exchange after website woes

Oregon’s website failed spectacularly, never allowing consumers to shop for plans and enroll online. The agency ran through an estimated $248 million in federal funding through the end of March, but was forced to sign up would-be insurance customers using paper applications.

62 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 5:57:53pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

A lot of elected Republicans have been saying it. Bundy was just more crude.

This is yet another way the media has been failing for decades. Ever since the Southern strategy became entrenched in the GOP establishment, the dog whistles and code words used by crypto-racists should have been called out by the media on every use.

63 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 5:58:58pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

This is yet another way the media has been failing for decades. Ever since the Southern strategy became entrenched in the GOP establishment, the dog whistles and code words used by crypto-racists should have been called out by the media on every use.

Precisely.

64 dog philosopher  Apr 24, 2014 5:59:20pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

meanwhile in Oregon
Oregon gets ready to jettison healthcare exchange after website woes

i would like to think that for $248 million i could do just as good a job of thoroughly screwing up a website

65 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 6:01:27pm

re: #64 dog philosopher

i would like to think that for $248 million i could do just as good a job of thoroughly screwing up a website

I’m curious to know exactly what was such a disaster. MNSure, Minnesota’s health care exchange, has been humming along with nary a blip (no stories of its epic failure have surfaced that I’m aware, though there were some acknowledged slowdowns around the deadline) and signed up a fairly significant number of people. It can be done right if people really want to.

66 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 6:06:12pm

re: #64 dog philosopher

i would like to think that for $248 million i could do just as good a job of thoroughly screwing up a website

It really was a spectacular mess, probably going to result in jail time for a few folks. The lady in charge started hiring and promoting people because she liked their energy. Secretaries became project managers, clerks became administrators. Nobody had any clue what they were doing.

67 dog philosopher  Apr 24, 2014 6:06:21pm

re: #65 thedopefishlives

I’m curious to know exactly what was such a disaster. MNSure, Minnesota’s health care exchange, has been humming along with nary a blip (no stories of its epic failure have surfaced that I’m aware, though there were some acknowledged slowdowns around the deadline) and signed up a fairly significant number of people. It can be done right if people really want to.

i can’t imaging why setting up a website could be such an overwhelming problem in this day and age

the hardest part, as far as i can make out, is where the frontend communicates the information to the ins companies, since you need to interface the front end to various and sundry remote legacy systems that might be cranky and/or need coddling. but many ins companies are national these days and surely minnesota and other states could share lessons learned where applicable in this regard

68 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 6:07:36pm

re: #50 Gus

Hitchens ruled. Anyway. Mona is registered at LGF?!?!?

I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen these comments before - not sure if it’s the same Mona. The comments don’t really sound like her.

But this is definitely the same Mona: LGF-Haters Still Ranting.

69 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 6:07:46pm
70 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 6:07:51pm

re: #67 dog philosopher

My guess is that in Oregon, this effort ended up with an idiot in charge, who then proceeded to make a perfectly possible task into a disaster.

71 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 6:08:00pm

As if I needed another reason to never do business with Chase

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 6:08:15pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

She says she posted here and criticized the hate then (like 10 years ago), just like she’s so nobly doing now.

What was her nic here?

73 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 6:11:40pm

re: #70 EPR-radar

My guess is that in Oregon, this effort ended up with an idiot in charge, who then proceeded to make a perfectly possible task into a disaster.

More or less correct. The problem was made worse by the morons in charge falsifying reviews, progress reports and website tests.

74 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 6:12:19pm

HURR HURR!!!! IF TEH WORKERS GETS PAID MOAR THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING WILL GO UP!!!!!!

75 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 24, 2014 6:12:21pm

Totally OT: My wife’s paper got accepted for publication in Nature Chem-Bio.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 6:12:52pm
77 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 6:14:10pm

Looks like Mona interacted badly with one or more of the people commenting at LGF in those days.

Those would be the very same people she’s now citing to smear me.

78 Jack Burton  Apr 24, 2014 6:14:23pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

It really was a spectacular mess, probably going to result in jail time for a few folks. The lady in charge started hiring and promoting people because she liked their energy. Secretaries became project managers, clerks became administrators. Nobody had any clue what they were doing.

I worked at a place that had an out of control manager doing things like that. When I complained I got handed walking papers for my troubles. They crashed and burned within 2 years after that. The burnt shell that remained was bought out and treaded water for a year or two longer before the building was sold and they auctioned everything in it. I got a lot of expensive networking equipment for dirt cheap when that happened. Sort of a last laugh.

79 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 6:15:10pm

Life truly is a circle.

80 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 6:16:24pm

re: #75 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Totally OT: My wife’s paper got accepted for publication in Nature Chem-Bio.

Congrats

81 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 6:18:33pm

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

What was her nic here?

I’m thinking it was ‘Mona’. Effusive but somewhat defensive libertarian here, then writes at Reason. Makes sense to me.

82 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 6:19:57pm
83 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 6:20:13pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

I’m thinking it was ‘Mona’. Effusive but somewhat defensive libertarian here, then writes at Reason. Makes sense to me.

What set her off and turned her into a raging psycho?

84 darthstar  Apr 24, 2014 6:21:20pm

85 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 24, 2014 6:21:47pm

re: #84 darthstar

The german dub of that movie has those guys speaking Bavarian.

86 thedopefishlives  Apr 24, 2014 6:22:56pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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I wish them both a fiery painful death.

87 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 6:23:20pm

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

What set her off and turned her into a raging psycho?

Charles’s lack of love for Greenwald? I don’t know. She was already nuts enough to be a libertarian.

88 darthstar  Apr 24, 2014 6:24:27pm
89 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2014 6:25:06pm

Later, lizards.

90 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 6:27:24pm
91 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 6:28:56pm

re: #90 Kragar

Cliven Bundy may be the all-time champion hole-digger. At this rate, he’ll reach the Earth’s core in a few days.

92 Odie Hugh Manatee  Apr 24, 2014 6:32:30pm

I’ve been enjoying reading all of the dudebros who are laughing at conservatives that claim that the ‘story’ isn’t about Bundy but rather it’s about government overreach.

That argument sounds vaguely familiar…

93 TedStriker  Apr 24, 2014 6:33:13pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

Cliven Bundy may be the all-time champion hole-digger. At this rate, he’ll reach the Earth’s core in a few days.

Bundy (and his supporters) have graduated from shovels to nukes:

94 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 6:33:24pm

re: #92 Odie Hugh Manatee

I’ve been enjoying reading all of the dudebros who are laughing at conservatives that claim that the ‘story’ isn’t about Bundy but rather it’s about government overreach.

That argument sounds vaguely familiar…

John Calhoun had a few things to say on this subject in the first half of the 1800s.

95 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 6:33:41pm

Putin Was Right: This Internet Thing Really Was Created by The CIA

But why did Vlad have to go and spill the beans?

96 Snarknado!  Apr 24, 2014 6:49:33pm

re: #42 Kragar

The tribe insisted that he do that — neither the developer nor archaeologists (!) wanted it done, but they wanted the remains returned to the Earth or something.

97 dog philosopher  Apr 24, 2014 6:50:03pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Putin Was Right: This Internet Thing Really Was Created by The CIA

“cat listicles” ???

98 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 6:53:25pm

re: #96 Snarknado!

The tribe insisted that he do that — neither the developer nor archaeologists (!) wanted it done, but they wanted the remains returned to the Earth or something.

It wasn’t that it was done, but how:

Archaeologists, however, said that all hopes of future study had been lost because developers had destroyed the geologic record by moving all of the items to an undisclosed location, and then paving them over.

Confidentiality agreements prevented researchers from discussing the site, until word got out at a Society for California Archaeology symposium in Visalia earlier this year. But by then, it was too late.

The Chronicle described what was lost as the “largest, best-preserved, most ethnologically rich American Indian site found in the Bay Area in at least a century.”

“It should have been protected,” UC Davis professor of archaeology Jelmer Eerkens explained. “The developers have the right to develop their land, but at least the information contained in the site should have been protected and samples should have been saved so that they could be studied in the future.”

99 Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2014 6:54:06pm

Pro-tip for wingnuts: Someone who begins his discourse by speaking about “The Negro” (or “The Mexican” or “The Chinaman” or similar turn of phrase) is not someone you want to support. Hanging around with racist assholes makes you an asshole yourself. And in so doing, pretty much every major non-magazine right-wing blogger except Glenn Beck* has now got major egg on his or her face.

*: Beck for some reason kept his distance from Cliven Bundy and thus avoids getting tarred for supporting a racist. (This time, since Beck has supported racists on other occasions.)

And as for Mr. Bundy, let me just say this:

Youtube Video

100 lawhawk  Apr 24, 2014 6:56:32pm

I’d promised to post these earlier in the week, but life got in the way…..

101 dog philosopher  Apr 24, 2014 6:57:33pm

re: #96 Snarknado!

The tribe insisted that he do that — neither the developer nor archaeologists (!) wanted it done, but they wanted the remains returned to the Earth or something.

i think the united federation of planets should return all terran heritage artifacts to the earth

102 Snarknado!  Apr 24, 2014 6:59:19pm

re: #98 Kragar

I saw an elaboration of all that that said the “moving to an undisclosed location” was what the tribe wanted — they didn’t want anyone poking at the bones of their ancestors.

(I agree with the archaeologists, and wish they could have preserved it.)

103 dog philosopher  Apr 24, 2014 6:59:56pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Pro-tip for wingnuts: Someone who begins his discourse by speaking about “The Negro” (or “The Mexican” or “The Chinaman” or similar turn of phrase) is not someone you want to support. Hanging around with racist assholes makes you an asshole yourself. And in so doing, pretty much every major non-magazine right-wing blogger except Glenn Beck* has now got major egg on his or her face.

*: Beck for some reason kept his distance from Cliven Bundy and thus avoids getting tarred for supporting a racist. (This time, since Beck has supported racists on other occasions.)

And as for Mr. Bundy, let me just say this:

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personally, i’m just wondering if The Whites were better off before they were given free access to mayonnaise

just askin

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 24, 2014 7:01:56pm

TEH FLOODING OF DE NILE.

105 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 7:02:00pm

Glenn Beck is currently facing a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit, which could explain why he seems to be trying to keep it on the down low.

106 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:03:32pm

re: #75 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Totally OT: My wife’s paper got accepted for publication in Nature Chem-Bio.

Major grats to Dr.-Mrs. Obdi.

107 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 24, 2014 7:06:34pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Pro-tip for wingnuts: Someone who begins his discourse by speaking about “The Negro” (or “The Mexican” or “The Chinaman” or similar turn of phrase) is not someone you want to support.

It always reminds me of those goofy “mental hygiene” films they used to inflict on school kids in the 50s and 60s, that lent themselves so easily to Mystery Science Theater 3000-style mockery.

We can almost hear the projector ratcheting away as the warbly music fades in…

“THE JOY OF BEING POPULAR”

What makes one person more popular than the next person? That’s what Judy’s trying to find out. Judy wants to be popular among her classmates at school. Judy observes her surroundings during the school day. She notices that lots of people like to visit with Mary during the lunch period and between classes. Gee! Mary sure is popular!

By observing Mary, Judy learns that The Popular Girl is always well-groomed and has good posture. Judy notices that one of her shoes is untied, and well…. she’s just not standing up quite as straight as she could. Judy realizes now that these are the sorts of things The Popular Girl always remembers to do.

108 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 7:07:54pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Glenn Beck is currently facing a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit, which could explain why he seems to be trying to keep it on the down low.

His viewer that was captured on his way to kill people at the Tides Foundation was sentenced recently too. He may have had a genuine change of heart but he was the pinnacle of this era of ugly hyper partisanship and political hate. I’m starting to see signs that the public has burned out a bit and more reasonable and thoughtful politics may be the new fad. Beck is probably just spiffing up his image for marketing purposes.

109 bluebonnetbunny  Apr 24, 2014 7:09:31pm

re: #91 EPR-radar
I think the implosion of right wing support for Bundy proves the wisdom of the strategic retreat by the BLM. If things had escalated, all we would be hearing about this week would be the “tyrannical” BLM and the “martyrs” at Bundy’s ranch.
Instead we have the spectacle of GOP politicians and media figures backpedaling like crazy, and the brilliance of Jon Stewart’s takedown of Hannity and Bundy.

110 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:10:51pm
111 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:11:18pm

re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH FLOODING OF DE NILE.

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I guess he doesn’t understand nuance. Bundy cab be racist towards blacks while not being a racist towards Hispanics though his statements regarding Hispanics were pretty stereotypical bs too.

112 Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2014 7:12:05pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Glenn Beck is currently facing a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit, which could explain why he seems to be trying to keep it on the down low.

Perhaps.

113 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 7:12:06pm
114 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 24, 2014 7:12:34pm

re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord

TEH FLOODING OF DE NILE.

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I like how s/he says “the left” edited the video.

The entire mass of humanity whose politics tend towards any position other than dead-center and rightward collectively and collaboratively edited the video. You worked on it. I worked on it. Steven Spielberg, Werner Herzog, and John Waters worked on it. Presumably all of “Hollywood” and the entire “liberal media” were part of it, and yet THAT was somehow the best we could collectively do.

115 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 24, 2014 7:12:46pm

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

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First one was easy.

RBS

116 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:15:29pm

re: #114 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I like how s/he says “the left” edited the video.

The entire mass of humanity whose politics tend towards any position other than dead-center and rightward collectively and collaboratively edited the video. You worked on it. I worked on it. Steven Spielberg, Werner Herzog, and John Waters worked on it. Presumably all of “Hollywood” and the entire “liberal media” were part of it, and yet THAT was somehow the best we could collectively do.

They have this fantasy that “the left” spends our days doing all we can to make the right look bad. When in reality, the right pretty much writes their own script. I mean I thought Bundy was just another right wing idiot faux victim. Certainly didn’t think he was a reactionary moron who doesn’t realize how terrible slavery was just like.

117 Bear  Apr 24, 2014 7:16:02pm

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

That is a good one! Took a couple minutes and then - the cat popped out.

118 darthstar  Apr 24, 2014 7:16:47pm

Hannity has black guests tonight.

119 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:18:16pm

re: #118 darthstar

Hannity has black guests tonight.

Wonder if any of them will ask him about his friend Hal Turner.

120 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 7:19:33pm
121 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:20:22pm

re: #117 Bear

That is a good one! Took a couple minutes and then - the cat popped out.

I couldn’t do it. My wife had to find it for me. That’s great camo for a cat.

122 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:21:03pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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Government Gone Wild eh.

123 lawhawk  Apr 24, 2014 7:22:48pm

Ummm.. he’s producing something alright…

But he’s not a welfare queen. He’s stealing from the public by refusing to pay the grazing fees for decades. That doesn’t make him a welfare queen. That makes him a deadbeat.

If he wants to play welfare queen, then that’d be an admission that the federal grazing fees are too low and that the ranchers are getting something for less than true market value. A handout.

124 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2014 7:22:50pm
125 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 7:23:15pm

Found the Cat

Spoiler

126 sagehen  Apr 24, 2014 7:23:48pm

re: #125 Gus

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WELL DONE!!

127 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:24:03pm

They just opened the first Cat Café in NYC.

128 jaunte  Apr 24, 2014 7:25:17pm
129 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:25:34pm

re: #123 lawhawk

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Ummm.. he’s producing something alright…

But he’s not a welfare queen. He’s stealing from the public by refusing to pay the grazing fees for decades. That doesn’t make him a welfare queen. That makes him a deadbeat.

If he wants to play welfare queen, then that’d be an admission that the federal grazing fees are too low and that the ranchers are getting something for less than true market value. A handout.

So, the right wing has taken the side of a self described welfare queen who wonders aloud if blacks were better under slavery. Geez that’s sad.

130 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:25:40pm

re: #125 Gus

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You gave up the spoiler!

131 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:26:23pm

re: #128 jaunte

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“It’s okay Sean, I won’t remind you about you paling around with Hal Turner for years.” Man Hannity’s pathetic.

132 jaunte  Apr 24, 2014 7:26:49pm
134 Bubblehead II  Apr 24, 2014 7:28:00pm

re: #5 Gus

Charles. Something’s wrong here. The videos audio is like in slo-mo.

Same here. WTF?

135 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:28:30pm

re: #132 jaunte

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Seems to me that Hannity could use some of that “personal responsibility” that he and other conservatives like to preach so much about but I forgot “personal responsibility” is only for poor people,

136 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 7:29:07pm

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

You gave up the spoiler!

It’s a “spoiler” now.

littlegreenfootballs.com

137 Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2014 7:29:09pm

re: #117 Bear

That is a good one! Took a couple minutes and then - the cat popped out.

Bear - you figure out your email block?

138 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 7:30:15pm

Find the bunny.

Spoiler
139 Gus  Apr 24, 2014 7:30:47pm

Oh jeez. Later.

140 Bear  Apr 24, 2014 7:30:55pm

re: #125 Gus

Spoiler

141 EmmaAnne  Apr 24, 2014 7:31:43pm

re: #117 Bear

That is a good one! Took a couple minutes and then - the cat popped out.

Chameleon cat.

142 Bear  Apr 24, 2014 7:32:30pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

I think so. Will know in the morning.

143 Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2014 7:42:18pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Seems to me that Hannity could use some of that “personal responsibility” that he and other conservatives like to preach so much about but I forgot “personal responsibility” is only for poor people,

In this case, personal responsibility would mean the loss or reduction of Sean Hannity’s lucrative position, since it would mean admitting he was dead wrong and that liberals might have a point, whereupon much of his audience would desert him, since they watch his show to reinforce what they already ‘know’.

144 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:42:59pm
145 Bubblehead II  Apr 24, 2014 7:43:53pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

OK - I added the non-MP4 videos above for those of you having trouble. Comedy Central’s embedded videos have been weird lately.

The non-MPP4 worked. Any idea what went wrong?

146 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:44:34pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

In this case, personal responsibility would mean the loss or reduction of Sean Hannity’s lucrative position, since it would mean admitting he was dead wrong and that liberals might have a point, whereupon much of his audience would desert him, since they watch his show to reinforce what they already ‘know’.

Yeah too bad, it would be nice to see him eat some humble pie for once.

148 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:46:46pm

re: #147 klys

But why’s it all sideways? Dude. That was some tequila.

Arizona?

149 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:47:11pm

re: #147 klys

I may be distracting myself from the fact that there is not a meowing kitten in my backyard for me to pet and play with and not be able to bring indoors I am such a sucker I am sure cats are able to sense this. I am wound around a feline thumb. Or pinky. If they had them.

150 goddamnedfrank  Apr 24, 2014 7:47:20pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Pro-tip for wingnuts: Someone who begins his discourse by speaking about “The Negro” (or “The Mexican” or “The Chinaman” or similar turn of phrase) is not someone you want to support.

That’s great, but Bundy’s central thesis that government social programs “enslave” people, especially blacks is a central tenant of Republican ideology. Paul Ryan expressed basically the same identical sentiment only in slightly more coded language. The GOP is also in denial about the actual institutional racism that lives on today in many of society’s private structures, and about the need to combat it affirmatively. How can you still be a member of such a fundamentally apologetic, revanchist party that caters so heavily to ignorant white angst?

151 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:48:05pm

I just downloaded this

152 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:48:11pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Arizona?

Monument Valley. Totally worth a trip, a tour - we were lucky and there for the full moon, so could do a moonrise tour when you go in at sunset (instead of at dawn which would have been the other photography option but ugh, I am not a good photographer because I hate mornings).

Do the tour, save your car’s suspension.

153 theheat  Apr 24, 2014 7:48:45pm

re: #123 lawhawk

There’s a whole cottage industry of “Thank a Farmer” memes that run the gamut from simple thank yous to the more martyr-flavored “Thank a Farmer or Choke on the Beef You Eat,” and Bundy’s trying desperately to hook a ride on any of those memes he can.

Most farmers’ and ranchers’ expenses in the livestock industry are land (their farm) to graze their animals and/or livestock feed they purchase from suppliers. This is one reason they claim when their feed prices rise, like corn or soybeans, or taxes on their farms increase, or the cost of gas or labor, so does the cost of whichever animal they’re selling as food. In Bundy’s case, he’s getting both the land and animal feed for free, but still wants to be acknowledged for his ‘selfless’ contributions to the consumer food market. It’s double bullshit.

154 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:49:17pm

re: #152 klys

Monument Valley. Totally worth a trip, a tour - we were lucky and there for the full moon, so could do a moonrise tour when you go in at sunset (instead of at dawn which would have been the other photography option but ugh, I am not a good photographer because I hate mornings).

Do the tour, save your car’s suspension.

Looks beautiful. Really want to see more of that part of the country.

155 Bubblehead II  Apr 24, 2014 7:50:39pm

Night Lizards.

156 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:51:28pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Looks beautiful. Really want to see more of that part of the country.

As someone who moved from the East Coast: it’s so worth it. SO worth it. I didn’t realize until I moved out here just how claustrophobic I felt all the time on the East Coast. Here there is space. And mountains. And so much natural beauty.

(Except LA.)

(Sorry PA.)

(I wouldn’t have believed the smog if I hadn’t seen it myself.)

I will never move east again.

I only do classy selfies. (Yes, it’s a repeat. I like this one.)

157 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 7:51:47pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

That’s great, but Bundy’s central thesis that government social programs “enslave” people, especially blacks is a central tenant of Republican ideology. Paul Ryan expressed basically the same identical sentiment only in slightly more coded language. The GOP is also in denial about the actual institutional racism that lives on today in many of society’s private structures, and about the need to combat it affirmatively. How can you still be a member of such a fundamentally apologetic, revanchist party that caters so heavily to ignorant white angst?

This x100. Bundy’s statements are bog-standard GOP ideology on race, and the same sentiments can be seen every day from GOP elected officials, NRO writers, RW leaders etc., etc.

The only thing with Bundy is that he expressed these ideas so crassly that their inherent racism made it through the several meters of lead shielding the US media uses to pretend that the dog whistles don’t mean what they mean.

158 EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2014 7:53:12pm

re: #156 klys

The LA area is stunningly beautiful on the 3-5 clear days per year. It must have been amazing back before it was major city.

159 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:54:56pm

re: #156 klys

As someone who moved from the East Coast: it’s so worth it. SO worth it. I didn’t realize until I moved out here just how claustrophobic I felt all the time on the East Coast. Here there is space. And mountains. And so much natural beauty.

(Except LA.)

(Sorry PA.)

(I wouldn’t have believed the smog if I hadn’t seen it myself.)

I will never move east again.

I only do classy selfies. (Yes, it’s a repeat. I like this one.)

It just looks so picturesque. I mean I like the east coast and being near the ocean but there’s so much beautiful outdoors out west.

160 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:56:17pm

re: #158 EPR-radar

The LA area is stunningly beautiful on the 3-5 clear days per year. It must have been amazing back before it was major city.

True enough. I saw the mountains in Pasadena, once. Visiting a friend from Caltech. They were beautiful, and so close.

That I never saw them again blew my mind.

These are the “roads” in Monument Valley. In very good shape. Other places were not so good.

Monument Valley was the only portion of the trip where I didn’t drive. I may have a LOT of photos.

161 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 7:56:36pm
162 sagehen  Apr 24, 2014 7:56:45pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Arizona?

Mars.

163 Mattand  Apr 24, 2014 7:56:59pm

re: #156 klys

As someone who moved from the East Coast: it’s so worth it. SO worth it. I didn’t realize until I moved out here just how claustrophobic I felt all the time on the East Coast. Here there is space. And mountains. And so much natural beauty.

(Except LA.)

(Sorry PA.)

(I wouldn’t have believed the smog if I hadn’t seen it myself.)

I will never move east again.

I only do classy selfies. (Yes, it’s a repeat. I like this one.)

You know what that photo needs? A coyote chasing a road runner on a Acme brand rocket powered Segway.

Sorry. I blame Chuck Jones.

164 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:57:05pm

re: #162 sagehen

Mars.

Haha, while I think I am relatively well travelled…

165 goddamnedfrank  Apr 24, 2014 7:57:17pm

I’ll never understand why conservative whites think they have any compelling arguments to make on the subject of race and prejudice. Historically they have been the ones to do the discriminating, to exercise their bigotry from a position of power. The idea that blacks have been re-enslaved by liberal big government hand outs and “free stuff” is so massively insulting, intrinsically racist and idiotic that it’s amazing anybody could ever make it with a straight face.

Black people in America have lived generation after generation after generation dealing with the often violent consequences of actual, practiced racism by whites and white societal power structures. Only a goddamned tool would be so openly patronizing as to imply that black people are so lazy and stupid as to be re-enslaved by the pittance offered by welfare, minimum wage jobs and food stamps.

166 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:57:29pm

re: #163 Mattand

You know what that photo needs? A coyote chasing a road runner on a Acme brand rocket powered Segway.

Sorry. I blame Chuck Jones.

Meep-meep.

167 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:57:30pm

re: #163 Mattand

You know what that photo needs? A coyote chasing a road runner on a Acme brand rocket powered Segway.

Sorry. I blame Chuck Jones.

It’s ok, you’re allowed to be jealous that I escaped from NJ.

///

168 Mattand  Apr 24, 2014 7:58:26pm

re: #167 klys

It’s ok, you’re allowed to be jealous that I escaped from NJ.

///

Eventually, I make a left at Albuquerque.

169 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 7:59:17pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

I’ll never understand why conservative whites think they have any compelling arguments to make on the subject of race and prejudice. Historically they have been the ones to do the discriminating, to exercise their bigotry from a position of power. The idea that blacks have been re-enslaved by liberal big government hand outs and “free stuff” is so massively insulting, intrinsically racist and idiotic that it’s amazing anybody could ever make it with a straight face.

Black people in America have lived generation after generation after generation dealing with the often violent consequences of actual, practiced racism by whites and white societal power structures. Only a goddamned tool would be so openly patronizing as to imply that black people are so lazy and stupid as to be re-enslaved by the pittance offered by welfare, minimum wage jobs and food stamps.

Not to mention likening allegiance to a political party to a slave plantation. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard white conservatives refer to the Democratic Party as “the plantation.” Great post.

170 klys  Apr 24, 2014 7:59:46pm

Panoramic moon rise.

171 Mattand  Apr 24, 2014 8:00:15pm

Daily Show time.

This should be good…

172 Lidane  Apr 24, 2014 8:00:43pm

Rebranding!

173 Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2014 8:01:19pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

It just looks so picturesque. I mean I like the east coast and being near the ocean but there’s so much beautiful outdoors out west.

When I moved from FL to San Diego I took a month drive. Once you hit the West you are just beyond amazed. It is so different.

174 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 8:02:12pm

re: #173 Stanley Sea

When I moved from FL to San Diego I took a month drive. Once you hit the West you are just beyond amazed. It is so different.

Yeah when I was in ABQ a couple years back, I went for a small walk around my friend’s neighborhood. Just a world’s different from what I’ve experienced here on the east coast.

175 klys  Apr 24, 2014 8:02:18pm

re: #173 Stanley Sea

When I moved from FL to San Diego I took a month drive. Once you hit the West you are just beyond amazed. It is so different.

On the northern route you hit it about the Badlands. Central, west of Denver. I don’t know where it happens in the south, never done that route.

I suppose it depends on how much you like desert.

176 TedStriker  Apr 24, 2014 8:03:08pm

re: #168 Mattand

Eventually, I make a left at Albuquerque.

Beware the turn at Cucamonga…

177 klys  Apr 24, 2014 8:03:19pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

My neighbors came over for drinks and snacks and exchanging travel photo stories this afternoon. They had photos from the balloon festival.

Oh man. A photographer’s dream.

178 HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2014 8:04:31pm

179 TedStriker  Apr 24, 2014 8:07:28pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Yeah when I was in ABQ a couple years back, I went for a small walk around my friend’s neighborhood. Just a world’s different from what I’ve experienced here on the east coast.

re: #177 klys

My neighbors came over for drinks and snacks and exchanging travel photo stories this afternoon. They had photos from the balloon festival.

Oh man. A photographer’s dream.

I love going to NM and being in ABQ and up in the Sangre de Cristos.

180 Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2014 8:08:25pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

I’ll never understand why conservative whites think they have any compelling arguments to make on the subject of race and prejudice. Historically they have been the ones to do the discriminating, to exercise their bigotry from a position of power. The idea that blacks have been re-enslaved by liberal big government hand outs and “free stuff” is so massively insulting, intrinsically racist and idiotic that it’s amazing anybody could ever make it with a straight face.

Black people in America have lived generation after generation after generation dealing with the often violent consequences of actual, practiced racism by whites and white societal power structures. Only a goddamned tool would be so openly patronizing as to imply that black people are so lazy and stupid as to be re-enslaved by the pittance offered by welfare, minimum wage jobs and food stamps.

Favorited that one GDF.

182 Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2014 8:12:23pm

re: #175 klys

On the northern route you hit it about the Badlands. Central, west of Denver. I don’t know where it happens in the south, never done that route.

I suppose it depends on how much you like desert.

I had friends to meet in Denver so we went there via Taos. My first ski slope evah was Taos. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Then Denver and Utah. Thankful I wasn’t entirely the southern route.

183 klys  Apr 24, 2014 8:15:48pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

I had friends to meet in Denver so we went there via Taos. My first ski slope evah was Taos. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Then Denver and Utah. Thankful I wasn’t entirely the southern route.

My first ski slope was in Utah.

I think I was 3.

My last was at Steamboat Springs, CO, when I was 14. And said I’d had enough of this shit and I was old enough to say I wasn’t enjoying it anymore and I wanted to stop.

There may have been a backboard involved.

184 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 8:22:11pm
185 Egregious Philbin  Apr 24, 2014 8:25:14pm

Lifelong resident of Phoenix here, yeah, you really take it for granted how stunning it can be here, even a simple 1 mile hike reveals so much.

But, the inferno of summer approaches..steeling myself for weeks of 110 degrees and it being 100 degrees at 11 PM and 95 degrees at 6 am…

186 Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2014 8:32:06pm

re: #185 Egregious Philbin

Lifelong resident of Phoenix here, yeah, you really take it for granted how stunning it can be here, even a simple 1 mile hike reveals so much.

But, the inferno of summer approaches..steeling myself for weeks of 110 degrees and it being 100 degrees at 11 PM and 95 degrees at 6 am…

Grocery shopping at 2am?

187 Cheechako  Apr 24, 2014 8:37:01pm

re: #185 Egregious Philbin

Lifelong resident of Phoenix here, yeah, you really take it for granted how stunning it can be here, even a simple 1 mile hike reveals so much.

But, the inferno of summer approaches..steeling myself for weeks of 110 degrees and it being 100 degrees at 11 PM and 95 degrees at 6 am…

Last winter my wife and I helped our son and DIL sell Christmas trees in the Phoenix area. I was amazed how many families did their tree shopping between 7 pm and 10 pm. Suddenly I realized they were just carrying their summer habit of shopping in the cooler evenings into a year round activity.

188 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 8:37:51pm

Israel slams ‘weak’ U.S. response to Fatah-Hamas unity deal

There are a few rumblings about cutting funding to the PA but it’s just not going to happen
Rep. Lowey: I will take steps to defund P.A.

189 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 8:41:10pm

What’s up with Haaretz? They’re usually dovish to the point of absurdity. The caption under the pic….

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reaches out to shake hands with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, but Kerry is about to explode

190 blueraven  Apr 24, 2014 8:45:22pm

Oh Lordy, Colbert just eviscerated Sean Hannity. It was brutal!

191 Lidane  Apr 24, 2014 8:52:20pm
192 blueraven  Apr 24, 2014 8:59:10pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

What’s up with Haaretz? They’re usually dovish to the point of absurdity. The caption under the pic….

Why haven’t you linked to any of the many other Haaretz articles regarding the PA/Hamas, Israel story?

PALESTINIAN RECONCILIATION

Fatah and Hamas representatives meet in Gaza City, April 22, 2014.
A sad evening in Washington, as Palestinians celebrate unity
News of the Fatah-Hamas reconciliation caught Kerry entirely off guard; and at very bad timing.
By Barak Ravid | Apr 25, 2014 | 05:24 AM


A question for Prime Minister Netanyahu
If Benjamin Netanyahu will not talk with the Palestinian Authority, how will he address the demographic threat he warned of?
By Haaretz Editorial | Apr 25, 2014 | 03:06 AM

Why is the Palestinian reconciliation driving Israel into a panic?
Contradictions are rife when it comes to Israel’s refusal to engage in dialogue with Hamas.
By Zvi Bar’el | Apr 25, 2014 | 01:19 AM

Israel slams ‘weak’ U.S. response to Fatah-Hamas unity deal
Senior official in Jerusalem: ‘Americans need to tell Abbas this is a red line - he can’t associate with Hamas.’
By Barak Ravid | Apr 24, 2014 | 11:24 PM

Palestinian Authority leaders campaign in defense of unity with Hamas
Abbas tells Indyk that reconciliation pact does not change his commitment to peace talks; Erekat accuses Israel of ‘piracy’ for withholding $100 million in PA funds.
By Jack Khoury , Haaretz | Apr 24, 2014 | 10:13 PM

Israel suspends talks with Palestinian Authority over Fatah-Hamas unity deal
Seeks clarifications of make-up and policy of new Palestinian government.
By Barak Ravid | Apr 24, 2014 | 08:26 PM

PA official says Hamas accepted two-state solution
Wednesday’s reconciliation agreement between Fatah and Hamas recognizes the existence of Israel and is based on the two-state model, says Jibril Rajoub.

Palestinians celebrate after announcing a reconciliation agreement in Gaza City, April 23, 2014
China welcomes Palestinian unity deal, hopes it will help peace
While U.S. reassesses aid to Palestinian Authority after Fatah-Hamas deal, Beijing says unity would lead to coexistence with Israel.
By Reuters | Apr 24, 2014 | 12:36 PM |2

Analysis || Palestinians are still a long way from real reconciliation
Abbas has not yet ‘chosen Hamas over peace’ and can press the ejector seat button at any time.
By Amos Harel | Apr 24, 2014 | 04:01 AM |3

Analysis || Palestinian reconciliation is an opportunity for Israel
Jerusalem chooses to see the unity deal as a threat, even after it long argued that Abbas doesn’t represent the entire Palestinian people.
By Barak Ravid | Apr 24, 2014 | 03:28 AM |27

There are many opinions and analyses in those pages.
One might think you have an agenda.

193 Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2014 9:01:33pm

Have a great night LGF. Scroll the outdated troll.

194 Dalai Rasta  Apr 24, 2014 9:05:32pm

re: #133 klys

We just adopted this little one about a month ago.

This is her story.

195 klys  Apr 24, 2014 9:08:30pm

re: #194 Dalai Rasta

We just adopted this little one about a month ago.
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This is her story.

Kudos for providing a home to a kitty that might otherwise have a hard time finding one.

It killed me that we couldn’t keep this sweetheart, but we already have three, so when she showed up in the backyard on Sunday, it was a really difficult decision to drive her to the shelter today.

I am trying to console myself with the knowledge that at least she is warm and indoors tonight.

196 Egregious Philbin  Apr 24, 2014 9:18:08pm

re: #187 Cheechako

Yeah, it can be rough in the really bad days. I am one who feels cold in my house if it is 80 degrees, so I don’t run up obscene bills. I also have a huge portable evaporative “swamp” cooler which really works well for the first half of summer when the humidity is low. I work at home now, so I can wear shorts or nothing to work every day, and take a dip in the pool whenever it gets too warm. But, it is a 3.5 month period of hell, however, the rest of the year makes up for it. This last winter was so mild, we had only one frost, my bananas and papayas lost a few leaves…beats the hell out of what the rest of the nation went through.

197 Killgore Trout  Apr 24, 2014 9:19:17pm

Not The Onion: The State Department Is Getting Ruthlessly Mocked For Tweets Of ‘Hashtag Diplomacy’

Forget sanctions, military options, or tough talk. The State Department is now hitting Russia with bizarre tweets.

198 klys  Apr 24, 2014 9:22:11pm

Well, I thought it was punny.

199 The War TARDIS  Apr 24, 2014 9:24:44pm

re: #198 klys

That is a serious thing though.

Why does insurance cover psuedo-scientific horseshit, and not things that factually help with various issues, like said hyperbaric chamber and Birth Control.

200 klys  Apr 24, 2014 9:28:46pm

re: #199 The War TARDIS

I ended up owing $25 for the most recent BC update.

I think it’s because they don’t cover the removal of the old IUD, but the billing is about as clear as mud.

The pre-insurance bill was $2107. For five years’ worth of birth control.

201 Ming  Apr 24, 2014 9:33:52pm

re: #64 dog philosopher

i would like to think that for $248 million i could do just as good a job of thoroughly screwing up a website

Apparently they’re not happy with Oracle!

I hope they have better luck with the federal exchange.

202 TedStriker  Apr 24, 2014 9:42:50pm

re: #198 klys

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Well, I thought it was punny.

A question that could only come from a member of the MythBusters cast.

A very punny reply indeed.

203 TedStriker  Apr 24, 2014 9:43:54pm

From Kari’s feed:

So full of awesome…

204 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 9:47:59pm

My latest project, getting a command squad together for Ursarkar E. Creed

Lord Castellan Ursarkar E. Creed of Cadia is the 50-year-old supreme commander of all Imperial military forces assigned to Cadia and also serves as the Imperial Commander and Imperial Planetary Governor of that crucial Fortress World. Creed is known to be a tactical genius who has saved his world from falling to the Forces of Chaos again and again. He most recently led the Imperial forces in the defence of Cadia from the massive invasion unleashed on the Fortress World by the Forces of Chaos during Abaddon the Despoiler’s 13th Black Crusade.

205 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 9:58:01pm

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Not The Onion: The State Department Is Getting Ruthlessly Mocked For Tweets Of ‘Hashtag Diplomacy’

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206 dog philosopher  Apr 24, 2014 10:05:28pm

re: #204 Kragar

My latest project, getting a command squad together for Ursarkar E. Creed

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jesus h christ, what is he, some kind of nazi era napoleonic roman??? or is he a napoleonic era roman nazi??

207 SteveMcGazi  Apr 24, 2014 10:09:12pm

re: #206 dog philosopher

jesus h christ, what is he, some kind of nazi era napoleonic roman??? or is he a napoleonic era roman nazi??

He’ snot gonna be either in a few seconds if he doesn’t disperse the men and get low.
edit: and lose the bling

208 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 10:09:48pm

re: #206 dog philosopher

jesus h christ, what is he, some kind of nazi era napoleonic roman??? or is he a napoleonic era roman nazi??

Think Zhukov meets Caesar

209 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 10:18:54pm

re: #207 SteveMcGazi

He’ snot gonna be either in a few seconds if he doesn’t disperse the men and get low.
edit: and lose the bling

It was the battle of Tyrok Fields, where the Cadians were ceremonially welcoming the Volscani Cataphracts for a series of combined exercises, when the Volscani launched an attack killing the Cadian senior command staff. Creed was one of the few senior officers left alive who took command and then destroyed the Volscani.

210 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 10:27:14pm

And I’m guessing we’re back

211 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 24, 2014 10:31:55pm

re: #209 Kragar

It was the battle of Tyrok Fields, where the Cadians were ceremonially welcoming the Volscani Cataphracts for a series of combined exercises, when the Volscani launched an attack killing the Cadian senior command staff. Creed was one of the few senior officers left alive who took command and then destroyed the Volscani.

OK. I’m lost. You be talkin’ game speak now.

212 Mich-again  Apr 24, 2014 10:32:15pm

I am surprised this clip from Napoleon Dynamite hasn’t been used by Sean 11ty to show how the BLM agents are treating Cliven Bundy’s cattle.. Youtube Video

213 Kragar  Apr 24, 2014 10:35:28pm

re: #211 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

OK. I’m lost. You be talkin’ game speak now.

Battle of Tyrok Fields

214 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 10:38:43pm
215 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Apr 24, 2014 10:51:15pm

re: #213 Kragar

Battle of Tyrok Fields

Thanks, but my brain is full. May I be excused?

216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2014 10:58:36pm

I mostly do straight Napoleonics, although a gaming friend sent me fourteen kits of Samurai that I have started painting.

217 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 24, 2014 11:02:36pm
218 KiTA  Apr 24, 2014 11:05:43pm

So does anyone want to take bets as to how long it’ll take Bundy to see a jail cell now that he’s not being used by the GOP as a prop?

219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2014 11:17:30pm

re: #218 KiTA

So does anyone want to take bets as to how long it’ll take Bundy to see a jail cell now that he’s not being used by the GOP as a prop?

His hard-core supporters will stick with him for some time, but count on the canonization and general patriotic brouhaha dying down by several notches.

220 The War TARDIS  Apr 24, 2014 11:19:07pm

In regards to my previous post 2 threads back, I have now applied for another job, this time in my field.

However, on the Muslim Matrimonial Site, I had a response from someone rejecting any question because I didn’t belong to the same ethnicity.

I can hold out to wait, but not for more than 2, maybe 3 years. And I heavily prefer marrying into the community. Because I want to be more involved in the community, and have links into it. I feel I would be looked at with suspicion for marrying outside of it.

I can be very cold in trying to find someone. That’s how I got the Muslim-only conslusion.

221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 12:06:20am

re: #220 The War TARDIS

I saw an article in The Slate asking, “Is it racist to want to date only people of your own color?”.

I did not bother reading it, as the question seems irrelevant: What does racism have to do with matters of personal preference in your private life, especially involving love, marriage, family and intimacy?

Nobody has a right to be your spouse or girlfriend; It is, however, a much different matter when it comes to other issues such as being denied service in a public business, or receiving preferential or discriminatory treatment in a job or housing/loan application based on race.

222 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 12:30:23am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, this article by Reihan Salem:

Is It Racist to Date Only People of Your Own Race?

Things like this are published with the intent on pushing hot buttons to generate comments, even if those comments tend towards the derp. And indeed, they’re up to 2107 comments, many full of derp.

Reihan being Reihan, has to throw this in, which I suspect is the ulterior motive:

We could make an effort to eliminate in-group favoritism, but such an effort would inevitably fail, as in-group favoritism is a powerful human impulse. A more sensible course of action would be to do our part to expand the boundaries of the in-group. And by doing our part, I mean doing more than piling on when some minor celebrity or politician is accused of racism, or holding “rednecks” in casual contempt for their (supposedly) backward views.

Reihan has for a while made his bed with National Racists Online and tip-toes around the most obvious of idiocies and hypocrises over there.

That in his latest Slate column he fails to even broach the question of the validity of the concepts of “race” which most people believe demonstrates that he doesn’t really want to address the hard problems.

That he proposes the best solution to racism is not

voting “the right way.”

but rather intermarriage quickly runs into counterexamples, none more so than Salem’s once upon a time cohort at NRO, Derbyshire, who has an Asian wife.

Slate exists to make money for Graham Holdings Company and for them an author like Salem, who can generate thousands of comments from likely a hundred thousand views, is a tool for business.

223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 12:35:18am

re: #222 freetoken

I visit Slate because it runs Doonesbury online. I seldom venture further into the magazine.

224 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 12:36:15am

Many of the comment writers on that piece swallow Salem’s diversion whole. He’s got them arguing over whether they find people different from themselves as attractive, as well as having victim-posers whining about be called “racists”.

Salem’s piece is an art of diversion, as indicated about what he said about voting.

225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 12:41:32am

re: #224 freetoken

I remember a similar brouhaha over a statement by smarmy pop star John Mayer that he did not date black women.

Again, so what? Nobody has the right to date anyone else.

Except John Hinckley Jr. and Jody Foster.

/

226 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 12:52:45am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember a similar brouhaha over a statement by smarmy pop star John Mayer that he did not date black women.

Again, so what? Nobody has the right to date anyone else.

Except John Hinckley Jr. and Jody Foster.

/

It’s kind of a dick statement to make, no matter who’s making it. I had a black friend who made that statement once, and it was true, he only dated white women. I told him the same thing, who he likes dating is his business but it’s a dick statement because there’s almost always some underlying stereotype that such preferences are based on. Usually that black women are hard, loud, gold digging, etc. I don’t care what kernel of truth a person thinks it’s based on that shit is tired.

People can and should date who they like, but they should also keep their exclusionary dumbfuckery to themselves.

227 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 12:57:18am

re: #226 goddamnedfrank

Dickish, granted, and probably but not necessarily racist. People have the right to be dicks. And we have the right to call them out on it.

228 EdDantes  Apr 25, 2014 2:34:12am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Dickish, granted, and probably but not necessarily racist. People have the right to be dicks. And we have the right to call them out on it.

Over the years I have heard a few “non-black” women say that they prefer black men. That is fine with me. I don’t know if it is racist or merely a racial preference. In any case it does not affect me and I don’t give a darn.

229 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 2:40:22am

re: #228 EdDantes

I am very sensitive about political correctitude when it applies to official speech and language, and when it applies to how rights and privileges are granted in the public sphere.

But anywhere else, it is a matter of personal choice.

It does not help, though, that the Internet has made the private sphere a public place: if somebody wants to dress in an SS outfit or wear blackface at a gathering , that is their own affair, but you can almost count on it appearing on FB or Twitter and causing a big blowup.

230 EdDantes  Apr 25, 2014 2:58:55am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I strongly believe that Americans are entitled to their prejudices, They are also entitled to having their names and visages spread all over the intrerwebs as you said.

231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 3:00:27am

re: #230 EdDantes

I strongly believe that Americans are entitled to their prejudices, They are also entitled to having their names and visages spread all over the intrerwebs as you said.

You can always ask your guests to check their iPhones and cameras at the door.

And then you can go party by yourself because everyone will leave.

232 EdDantes  Apr 25, 2014 3:14:17am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You can always ask your guests to check their iPhones and cameras at the door.

And then you can go party by yourself because everyone will leave.

Good. I’m a misanthrope so that suits me just fine.

233 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 3:25:41am

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234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 3:29:25am

Standby mode activated…

235 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 3:47:49am

re: #123 lawhawk

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Ummm.. he’s producing something alright…

But he’s not a welfare queen. He’s stealing from the public by refusing to pay the grazing fees for decades. That doesn’t make him a welfare queen. That makes him a deadbeat.

If he wants to play welfare queen, then that’d be an admission that the federal grazing fees are too low and that the ranchers are getting something for less than true market value. A handout.

I’d say that, after this, the man has pretty much burned whatever bridges there were between him and his most vocal supporters in the media and political circuits. Bad enough he’s a racist, but an admitted welfare queen as well? He’s become radioactive to all but the militia buddies who, of course, see his “plight” as just another excuse to wave guns at the government.

236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 4:01:42am

re: #235 Targetpractice

I’d say that, after this, the man has pretty much burned whatever bridges there were between him and his most vocal supporters in the media and political circuits. Bad enough he’s a racist, but an admitted welfare queen as well? He’s become radioactive to all but the militia buddies who, of course, see his “plight” as just another excuse to wave guns at the government.

That’s all this was ever about: all the arguments and justifications offered in support were just window dressing, and all but the stupidest were aware of that.

237 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 4:12:04am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s all this was ever about: all the arguments and justifications offered in support were just window dressing, and all but the stupidest were aware of that.

Oh, I had a pair of wingnuts who spent days trying to argue their little hearts out about how I was missing the bigger pictures, whether it was Harry Reid and corruption in the government, or “government overreach” that was in danger of destroying property rights in America. Funny, they went oddly silent yesterday…

238 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 4:15:00am

re: #214 NJDhockeyfan

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No vision of peaceful activity, just an image of killing the enemy that is divorced from reality. More proof than Hamas is evil and cannot be reformed. If Fatah forms a government with Hamas, the US should abandon support for peace talks and reduce aid to the PA.

239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 4:18:33am

re: #237 Targetpractice

Oh, I had a pair of wingnuts who spent days trying to argue their little hearts out about how I was missing the bigger pictures, whether it was Harry Reid and corruption in the government or “government overreach” that was in danger of destroying property rights in America. Funny, they went oddly silent yesterday…

It is also about the fact that lots of people absolutely hate the federal government (especially when it is being controlled by the party they did not vote for) and are very open to any sort of rationalization or justification for the use of force against it.

And it has a lot to do with a bunch of pathetic jerks with some serious penis-size inadequacy & overcompensation issues.

240 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 4:28:37am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is also about the fact that lots of people absolutely hate the federal government (especially when it is being controlled by the party they did not vote for) and are very open to any sort of rationalization or justification for the use of force against it.

And it has a lot to do with a bunch of pathetic jerks with some serious penis-size inadequacy & overcompensation issues.

Oh, the “militia” nutters will continue to revere his name for weeks and months to come, but the whole narrative of Cliven Bundy, stand-up guy who has become the subject of a shadowy conspiracy to rob him of his land for the high crime of making ends meet, ended yesterday in a rather spectacular fashion.

Already the scurrying of the rats has begun and the historical revisionism is in full swing, as those who spent weeks trying to play Cliven up as a symbol of all the was “good” about the West now try to act as if he was just one guy on a list, despite none of the other names on that list getting anywhere near the publicity that he did.

241 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 4:39:36am

re: #240 Targetpractice

Anytime something like this happens with these nitwits it’s ALWAYS about waving a gun at some perceived Other. In this case it’s the terrible evil government workers. Who are all lazy and over paid and a waste of “my tax dollars”.

I’d still love to know where all these staunch supporters of liberty and freedom were when the PATRIOT Act was signed into law. In fact, some of those same types of assholes told me I was a traitor and a communist when I was venting my spleen about THAT. And the super awesome “Free Speech Zones” Iraq war protesters got shoved into any time they wanted to show up where President Bush was speaking, or any elected official who didn’t want to be inconvenienced by the peasantry. Patriots my ass, these fuckers HATE democracy, and maybe I’m giving their knuckle dragging asses too much credit for understanding what democracy is.

242 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 4:41:02am

Also, has anyone heard from Justanotherhuman? Kinda worried about her.

243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 4:43:55am

re: #240 Targetpractice

Oh, the “militia” nutters will continue to revere his name for weeks and months to come, but the whole narrative of Cliven Bundy, stand-up guy who has become the subject of a shadowy conspiracy to rob him of his land for the high crime of making ends meet, ended yesterday in a rather spectacular fashion.

Because they could not stop at “I support CB in his dispute with the BLM”, they had to elevate him to the status of True Patriot and Great American, which is what they just love to do with anyone they support.

Add those they disagree with are given the status of “moocher”, “traitor”, “fascist/communist”, “Muslim/atheist”, “loser”, “baby-killer” or whatever seems to fit at the moment.

244 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 4:45:51am

BBL, dog walk, chores, and the yard/garden cleanup and planting extravaganza continues…..(I’m tired just thinking about it).

245 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 4:50:05am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they could not stop at “I support CB in his dispute with the BLM”, they had to elevate him to the status of True Patriot and Great American, which is what they just love to do with anyone they support.

Add those they disagree with are given the status of “moocher”, “traitor”, “fascist/communist”, “Muslim/atheist”, “loser”, “baby-killer” or whatever seems to fit at the moment.

Yep, it couldn’t stop at simply “He has a legitimate gripe,” it had to be that he was the symbol of all that was good in America and any who didn’t feel that he deserved to be saved were themselves on the side of the “evil” government. And I believe that’s largely because, when shorn of all the character drama, there’s really nothing to Bundy’s “plight” that warrants any sympathy. He’s got all the appeal of a guy who, months behind on car loan payments, decides that he’ll just keep driving the car and scare off repo guys with a gun.

246 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 4:53:12am

re: #245 Targetpractice

Yep, it couldn’t stop at simply “He has a legitimate gripe,” it had to be that he was the symbol of all that was good in America and any who didn’t feel that he deserved to be saved were themselves on the side of the “evil” government. And I believe that’s largely because, when shorn of all the character drama, there’s really nothing to Bundy’s “plight” that warrants any sympathy. He’s got all the appeal of a guy who, months behind on car loan payments, decides that he’ll just keep driving the car and scare off repo guys with a gun.

Meanwhile, in the burrows, the dessert tortoises wait. And plan. Two things a tortoise has is patience, a fine taste for vengeance, and a hard shell. Three things!
;)

247 Usually refered to as anyways  Apr 25, 2014 4:59:08am

Ahhh, Australia Day almost over.

This couldn’t have made me prouder

The front page included dummy headlines, empty space, “three lines to come here”, Gallipoli misspelt (twice) and the subhead ‘World Is Fukt’.

248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 5:00:06am

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

Meanwhile, in the burrows, the dessert tortoises wait. And plan. Two things a tortoise has is patience, a fine taste for vengeance, and a hard shell. Three things!
;)

Nobody expects the snapping turtle inquisition!

249 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 5:03:26am

re: #245 Targetpractice

Yep, it couldn’t stop at simply “He has a legitimate gripe,” it had to be that he was the symbol of all that was good in America and any who didn’t feel that he deserved to be saved were themselves on the side of the “evil” government. And I believe that’s largely because, when shorn of all the character drama, there’s really nothing to Bundy’s “plight” that warrants any sympathy. He’s got all the appeal of a guy who, months behind on car loan payments, decides that he’ll just keep driving the car and scare off repo guys with a gun.

Tucker Carlson was able to stop at “Bundy has a point about the BLM, but he’s still doing wrong and breaking the law”, but for most wingnuts that wasn’t emotionally satisfying. It required an element of nuance, which interfered with the mental images required for their anti-government masturbation.

250 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 5:06:04am

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

Tucker Carlson was able to stop at “Bundy has a point about the BLM, but he’s still doing wrong and breaking the law”, but for most wingnuts that wasn’t emotionally satisfying. It required an element of nuance, which interfered with the mental images required for their anti-government masturbation.

The country could probably stand to have a realistic discussion about use of federal land, the funding of enforcement agencies such as the BLM, and the applicable laws regarding fees, usage, mineral rights, improvements, etc.

Wasn’t going to happen in the current political climate. And Bundy was not the case to use to initiate the discussion.

251 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 25, 2014 5:08:08am

re: #250 Feline Fearless Leader

The country could probably stand to have a realistic discussion about use of federal land, the funding of enforcement agencies such as the BLM, and the applicable laws regarding fees, usage, mineral rights, improvements, etc.
.

Mostly that we should charge a shitload more for mineral rights.

252 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 5:11:11am

re: #251 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Mostly that we should charge a shitload more for mineral rights.

Among other things. One reason the discussion is not being had is that a bunch of interests know that if anything is done it will involve a tightening of the rules regarding mineral and timber exploitation. And, in my opinion, the declaration of national parks and national monuments has basically been used to prevent some of this exploitation in sensitive areas.

253 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 25, 2014 5:18:51am

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

We basically pay timber companies to log federal forests, which makes anti-sense.

254 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 5:19:16am

We are dealing with the “I wanna drown the federal government in a bathtub” faction here, they don’t want a discussion, they want a shouting match, backed up by assault rifles.

255 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 5:20:37am

The whole “It’s not about Bundy!” business is a joke and not a very funny one. It was always about Bundy, from the moment he called out to the militia nutters to come stand with him, to the moment the Hannity crowd started pleading his case. Loesch put up a list yesterday of other people who are “just like Bundy,” but I doubt you’d find any of them listed in the major media earlier than last week. Bundy was the epicenter and to deny that is to insult the intelligence of those us who’ve been following this shit for over a week now.

256 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 5:28:24am

I’m arguing with an idiot who claims that raising minimum wage will kill jrrbs, raise prices, yada yada. Why do I bother?

257 Justanotherhuman  Apr 25, 2014 5:29:49am

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday. He is in a hospice room where he is on a morphine drip and oxygen, but is not being fed; they’re just making him comfortable. We were told that the cause of death will be apoxia, or lack of oxygen to the brain, which occurred when he had cardiac arrest Sunday morning. His internal organs will stop functioning altogether, but he is able to breathe on his own pretty well. It seems like it’s a conflicted situation, but we were told that he had suffered irreversible brain damage, even though his body appears to be functioning all right on the outside. I’m beginning to think that his liver might have already been failing for the last month or so, and caused the cardiac arrest, but he didn’t want to tell us, although he had hinted something was wrong. They said at the hospital it had failed completely and they also said his kidneys were failing as well when they took him off life support.

My granddaughter and I spent the night with him last night and it’s been heartbreaking. Just came home to an empty apt (my g-son and gg-son spent the night w/friends) and we’ll all gather at the hospital today since we don’t know when he will pass away. We’re all holding up pretty well; we’ve done a lot of crying each day, but it’s a bit of relief. Everyone at the hospital has been wonderful, competent, professional. So, we’re appreciative of everyone’s kind thoughts as we get through this ordeal. : )

258 Usually refered to as anyways  Apr 25, 2014 5:31:54am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday. He is in a hospice room where he is on a morphine drip and oxygen, but is not being fed; they’re just making him comfortable. We were told that the cause of death will be apoxia, or lack of oxygen to the brain, which occurred when he had cardiac arrest Sunday morning. His internal organs will stop functioning altogether, but he is able to breathe on his own pretty well. It seems like it’s a conflicted situation, but we were told that he had suffered irreversible brain damage, even though his body appears to be functioning all right on the outside. I’m beginning to think that his liver might have already been failing for the last month or so, and caused the cardiac arrest, but he didn’t want to tell us, although he had hinted something was wrong. They said at the hospital it had failed completely and they also said his kidneys were failing as well when they took him off life support.

My granddaughter and I spent the night with him last night and it’s been heartbreaking. Just came home to an empty apt (my g-son and gg-son spent the night w/friends) and we’ll all gather at the hospital today since we don’t know when he will pass away. We’re all holding up pretty well; we’ve done a lot of crying each day, but it’s a bit of relief. Everyone at the hospital has been wonderful, competent, professional. So, we’re appreciative of everyone’s kind thoughts as we get through this ordeal. : )

{hugs}

259 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 5:32:16am

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It must be very hard for you. I have no words, just hugs & prayers.

260 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 5:34:23am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

My kind thoughts are with ya. Having lost close family to heart attacks, I know that the suddenness of it all makes accepting the reality so hard. But it sounds like you’ve got a good family to share your grief with.

261 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 5:34:55am

re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m arguing with an idiot who claims that raising minimum wage will kill jrrbs, raise prices, yada yada. Why do I bother?

You’re having a microeconomics debate about a subject that is really macroeconomics.

262 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 5:35:17am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

sincerest condolences

263 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 5:36:06am

re: #261 Feline Fearless Leader

You’re having a microeconomics debate about a subject that is really macroeconomics.

And using a media that is limited to 140 char.

264 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 5:36:27am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Crap. My condolences.

:(

265 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 5:38:22am

re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m arguing with an idiot who claims that raising minimum wage will kill jrrbs, raise prices, yada yada. Why do I bother?

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It will simply never dawn on them that greedy bastard execs at the top giving themselves and each other million dollar paychecks does nothing for the economy. The rich in this country simply do not spend enough of their wealth to drive the sort of demand that keeps the economy growing. A guy with a million dollars in his paycheck is not going out and buying a million $1 cheeseburgers at McDonald’s.

266 Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2014 5:38:49am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday. He is in a hospice room where he is on a morphine drip and oxygen, but is not being fed; they’re just making him comfortable. We were told that the cause of death will be apoxia, or lack of oxygen to the brain, which occurred when he had cardiac arrest Sunday morning. His internal organs will stop functioning altogether, but he is able to breathe on his own pretty well. It seems like it’s a conflicted situation, but we were told that he had suffered irreversible brain damage, even though his body appears to be functioning all right on the outside. I’m beginning to think that his liver might have already been failing for the last month or so, and caused the cardiac arrest, but he didn’t want to tell us, although he had hinted something was wrong. They said at the hospital it had failed completely and they also said his kidneys were failing as well when they took him off life support.

My granddaughter and I spent the night with him last night and it’s been heartbreaking. Just came home to an empty apt (my g-son and gg-son spent the night w/friends) and we’ll all gather at the hospital today since we don’t know when he will pass away. We’re all holding up pretty well; we’ve done a lot of crying each day, but it’s a bit of relief. Everyone at the hospital has been wonderful, competent, professional. So, we’re appreciative of everyone’s kind thoughts as we get through this ordeal. : )

My deepest condolences and my thoughts are with you.

267 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 5:39:09am

re: #265 Targetpractice

It will simply never dawn on them that greedy bastard execs at the top giving themselves and each other million dollar paychecks does nothing for the economy. The rich in this country simply do not spend enough of their wealth to drive the sort of demand that keeps the economy growing. A guy with a million dollars in his paycheck is not going out and buying a million $1 cheeseburgers at McDonald’s.

I pointed that out and he was all HURR HURR THEIR TEH JRRB CREEYATERZ!!!!!!!

268 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 5:39:45am

nbcnews.com

Sounds like some shoddy construction.

269 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 5:43:27am

re: #267 Pie-onist Overlord

I pointed that out and he was all HURR HURR THEIR TEH JRRB CREEYATERZ!!!!!!!

Yet I’ll bet this economic genius is the kinda guy who thinks that government jobs aren’t “real” jobs but “make-work” because the people working them don’t produce anything that he’s looking to buy. The job creators are sitting on their money not because they’re scared of regulations or taxes, they’re sitting on enough wealth to make Scrooge McDuck jealous because nobody’s buying anything. How can they when, by the time they’ve paid the mortgage and the bills, they’re lucky if they have enough for basic necessities?

270 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 25, 2014 5:44:56am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

No parent should outlive their child. I can’t imagine the depth of that grief.

271 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 5:45:10am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

I am so sorry Justanotherhuman. Prayers and good thoughts are with you and your loved ones.

272 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 5:46:34am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 5:48:14am

re: #265 Targetpractice

A guy with a million dollars in his paycheck is not going out and buying a million $1 cheeseburgers at McDonald’s.

And if they invest in “job creation”, it will be wherever they can get the highest returns, which often means overseas. The only jobs created here will be minimum-wage jobs selling cheap imported goods at the Wal-Mart.

274 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 5:50:37am

re: #269 Targetpractice

Yet I’ll bet this economic genius is the kinda guy who thinks that government jobs aren’t “real” jobs but “make-work” because the people working them don’t produce anything that he’s looking to buy. The job creators are sitting on their money not because they’re scared of regulations or taxes, they’re sitting on enough wealth to make Scrooge McDuck jealous because nobody’s buying anything. How can they when, by the time they’ve paid the mortgage and the bills, they’re lucky if they have enough for basic necessities?

en.wikipedia.org

Yep. Trying to get someone to understand (or admit) the concept of marginal propensity to consume, and how money cascades through an economy to increase gross domestic product can be difficult.

275 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 5:52:32am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Oh no. I am so sorry. I never know the right thing to say in these situations, but I offer my love and many, many ((((big hugs)))) to all of you.

276 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 5:53:32am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Many thoughts and prayers coming at you from Tennessee. I have no idea what you are going through. I don’t know how well I would handle it.

277 Mattand  Apr 25, 2014 5:55:19am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday. He is in a hospice room where he is on a morphine drip and oxygen, but is not being fed; they’re just making him comfortable. We were told that the cause of death will be apoxia, or lack of oxygen to the brain, which occurred when he had cardiac arrest Sunday morning. His internal organs will stop functioning altogether, but he is able to breathe on his own pretty well. It seems like it’s a conflicted situation, but we were told that he had suffered irreversible brain damage, even though his body appears to be functioning all right on the outside. I’m beginning to think that his liver might have already been failing for the last month or so, and caused the cardiac arrest, but he didn’t want to tell us, although he had hinted something was wrong. They said at the hospital it had failed completely and they also said his kidneys were failing as well when they took him off life support.

My granddaughter and I spent the night with him last night and it’s been heartbreaking. Just came home to an empty apt (my g-son and gg-son spent the night w/friends) and we’ll all gather at the hospital today since we don’t know when he will pass away. We’re all holding up pretty well; we’ve done a lot of crying each day, but it’s a bit of relief. Everyone at the hospital has been wonderful, competent, professional. So, we’re appreciative of everyone’s kind thoughts as we get through this ordeal. : )

I am so, so sorry to hear this. Deepest condolences to you and your family.

278 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 5:59:28am
279 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 5:59:45am

Now here is the Twitter feed of a guy who has decided to wage his own personal “jihad” of becoming a kinder, more compassionate, tolerant and loving human being.

280 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 6:01:38am
281 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 6:01:47am

re: #278 darthstar

CNN is hunting for ratings, so pinning Bundy down about racist remarks is the way to get them since essentially he’s “hot” right now and still within his 15 minutes of fame. Bundy and the interviewer are talking past each other so it’s win-win so far since all both want is the attention and eyeballs.

282 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 6:04:26am

re: #281 Feline Fearless Leader

Have they set up a simulator for what it’s like to stand outside and look at cows?

283 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 6:04:30am

re: #281 Feline Fearless Leader

CNN is hunting for ratings, so pinning Bundy down about racist remarks is the way to get them since essentially he’s “hot” right now and still within his 15 minutes of fame. Bundy and the interviewer are talking past each other so it’s win-win so far since all both want is the attention and eyeballs.

Have they asked Bundy about flight 370 yet?

284 Fineday  Apr 25, 2014 6:05:04am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

I am so sorry.

I don’t know if this will be of any comfort to you, but my father had a stroke when he was 50 years old. He became paralysed in his left side and blind. We took care of him at home for 4 years until he finally passed away, and those 4 years were miserable. Not something I would wish for anybody to happen.

So even though it must be unspeakably horrible for you to lose your son at such a young age, perhaps it was better that he did not really have to suffer for long.

My thoughts are with you. I wish I could reach out and hug you across the Atlantic, but this will have to do.

Hang in there.

285 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 6:06:52am
286 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 6:07:02am

re: #283 NJDhockeyfan

Have they asked Bundy about flight 370 yet?

Didn’t watch it for more than 30 seconds or so. Bundy wants to bitch about the BLM and federal government overreach, CNN wants him to comment on his racist remarks*. So it was going nowhere fast.

* - And I presume CNN for hoping for some sort of blowup on camera.

287 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 25, 2014 6:08:01am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

{{{jah}}}

kyrie eleison
christe eleison
kyrie eleison

288 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 6:08:40am
289 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 6:10:35am

re: #286 Feline Fearless Leader

There comes a time when it’s time to stop paying attention to a racist asshole. It’s usually some days before they get their exclusive on CNN.

290 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 6:11:11am

nbcnews.com

Sort of nice to see a somewhat reasonable reaction to a measles outbreak. Would prefer the community to be more proactive about vaccines personally, but still nice to see a reaction to counter effects rather than whining and carrying on.

291 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 6:12:43am

re: #288 darthstar

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I think that’s what’s been most telling about all of this, that the people who actually know what it’s like to deal with the BLM and raise cattle in Nevada have either A) refused to weigh in on the whole mess or B) have voiced opposition to Bundy’s foolishness. Which really runs against the bit we’ve heard since Day One, which was that he’s the “last man standing,” that the BLM purposefully put all the ranchers in the area out of business, and that they’ve a reputation there for screwing over ranchers who are just barely making a living.

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 6:13:07am

re: #289 darthstar

There comes a time when it’s time to stop paying attention to a racist asshole. It’s usually some days before they get their exclusive on CNN.

I’ve already petitioned for the lunch room TV to be set to a different channel with something meaningful on - like Cartoon Network.

293 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 6:13:43am

re: #282 darthstar

Have they set up a simulator to see what it’s like to be a sniper putting a bead on BLM officers who are operating with authority of the law, the courts, and the Constitution on their side?

294 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:05am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

I can’t come up with any words, since it all sounds trite in my head.

I’m so sorry to hear this. Hugs to you and your family. :(

295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:22am

re: #291 Targetpractice

… Which really runs against the bit we’ve heard since Day One, which was that he’s the “last man standing,” that the BLM purposefully put all the ranchers in the area out of business, and that they’ve a reputation there for screwing over ranchers who are just barely making a living.

By charging grazing fees that are 90% below the commercial rate?

296 Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:58am

re: #206 dog philosopher

jesus h christ, what is he, some kind of nazi era napoleonic roman??? or is he a napoleonic era roman nazi??

Yes.

297 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 6:15:18am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

By charging grazing fees that are 90% below the commercial rate?

I think to Bundy the “tragedy of the commons” is that there is not more space there for him to exploit.
:p ///

298 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 6:19:02am

W T F I T S ? ?

299 Mattand  Apr 25, 2014 6:21:02am

re: #293 lawhawk

Have they set up a simulator to see what it’s like to be a sniper putting a bead on BLM officers who are operating with authority of the law, the courts, and the Constitution on their side?

I think this is what angers me the most, particularly when I think about how Georgia just went “All guns, all the time.”

So many of these militia/Tea Bagger/originalist gun huggers have such an incredibly childish view of both the world and responsible gun ownership.

If the world doesn’t comport to the fantasy they see in their heads, well then by God, they’ll bend it to their will one bullet at time.

This is Exhibit A as to why the 2nd Amendment needs a page one re-write.

300 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 6:22:37am

Colbert did a good job on Bundy last night. Transcript here: dailykos.com

(I prefer to read the transcripts BruinKid does)

301 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 6:24:25am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

By charging grazing fees that are 90% below the commercial rate?

That’s the thing, when you actually look at the facts of the case, it becomes ridiculous to hear the man whining that he’s being charged too much. And that’s really what this is all about, that in 1993 the BLM changed the formula under which grazing fees are calculated, Bundy disapproved, and he decided that he’d just start grazing for free instead of paying.

302 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 6:27:09am
303 Mattand  Apr 25, 2014 6:27:12am

re: #301 Targetpractice

That’s the thing, when you actually look at the facts of the case, it becomes ridiculous to hear the man whining that he’s being charged too much. And that’s really what this is all about, that in 1993 the BLM changed the formula under which grazing fees are calculated, Bundy disapproved, and he decided that he’d just start grazing for free instead of paying.

It makes you wonder what kind of business man he actually is, too. If my web host decided to only charge me 10% of what I pay now, I’m not going to wave a gun at their offices and host my site by illegally hacking their servers.

304 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 6:32:18am

re: #303 Mattand

It makes you wonder what kind of business man he actually is, too. If my web host decided to only charge me 10% of what I pay now, I’m not going to wave a gun at their offices and host my site by illegally hacking their servers.

The greedy kind. It’s why none of the other ranchers have come to his aid, because they’ve been paying the fees despite any opposition to the increases. And, lo & behold, the fees came down after ranchers raised a fit to Congress. But Bundy decided he was already hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to the BLM before he began paying his fees again, so he’d just challenge their authority in the courts instead. It’s the classic tale of a deadbeat, already deep in debt, choosing to take the debt collectors to court out of some vain hope that he could get the courts to wipe away the debt.

305 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 6:36:02am

re: #301 Targetpractice

Correctamundo! He was fine with paying the grazing fees up until the BLM changed the formula and land use rules (which they could do as owners of the land). Once they did that, Bundy decided that he wouldn’t pay them but continued grazing.

306 Ian G.  Apr 25, 2014 6:37:51am

re: #279 Pie-onist Overlord

GET A HAIRCUT, HIPPIE!

/////////////////////

307 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 6:39:12am
308 Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2014 6:40:19am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Hugs from Matt and family.

309 makeitstop  Apr 25, 2014 6:40:39am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday. He is in a hospice room where he is on a morphine drip and oxygen, but is not being fed; they’re just making him comfortable. We were told that the cause of death will be apoxia, or lack of oxygen to the brain, which occurred when he had cardiac arrest Sunday morning. His internal organs will stop functioning altogether, but he is able to breathe on his own pretty well. It seems like it’s a conflicted situation, but we were told that he had suffered irreversible brain damage, even though his body appears to be functioning all right on the outside. I’m beginning to think that his liver might have already been failing for the last month or so, and caused the cardiac arrest, but he didn’t want to tell us, although he had hinted something was wrong. They said at the hospital it had failed completely and they also said his kidneys were failing as well when they took him off life support.

My granddaughter and I spent the night with him last night and it’s been heartbreaking. Just came home to an empty apt (my g-son and gg-son spent the night w/friends) and we’ll all gather at the hospital today since we don’t know when he will pass away. We’re all holding up pretty well; we’ve done a lot of crying each day, but it’s a bit of relief. Everyone at the hospital has been wonderful, competent, professional. So, we’re appreciative of everyone’s kind thoughts as we get through this ordeal. : )

I’m so sorry. Wishing for strength for you and your family.

310 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 6:43:03am
311 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 6:50:49am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday.

So very sorry to hear this Justanother. I’m tearing up just reading it.

I lost my bestest life-long friend almost exactly three years ago to heart related problems, so I know how tough it all is for you and your family.

Please do take care, and you will be in my thoughts too as I reminisce about my friend which is automatic now every early May.

{{{Justanother}}}

312 Ian G.  Apr 25, 2014 6:53:44am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

I went through a similar ordeal with my mother about 8 years ago, so I know how horrible an experience it must be. Just try to find strength in your family (and in god, if that’s your thing) and try to remember all the good that your son brought into your and others lives, because, in the end, all we are is how we affected other people’s lives.

313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 6:56:08am

re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord

Even though the majority of people on welfare are white, it’s only black people on welfare who are supposedly virtual slaves.

The argument here is that the Democrat “plantation owners” intentionally keep black people dependent on Free Government Stuff in order to buy their support and votes.

314 Ian G.  Apr 25, 2014 6:56:26am

re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord

We’re not allowed to talk about poor whites, or dysfunction in lower-class white communities. That might cost the GOP votes!

Or to put it another way, just imagine the lunacy on the right if the Obama family had the kind of baggage that the Palin family did. Imagine if Malia had been knocked up by a high-school dropout son of a crack dealer from Chicago whose only goal in life was to play basketball.

315 kirkspencer  Apr 25, 2014 6:57:26am

re: #301 Targetpractice

That’s the thing, when you actually look at the facts of the case, it becomes ridiculous to hear the man whining that he’s being charged too much. And that’s really what this is all about, that in 1993 the BLM changed the formula under which grazing fees are calculated, Bundy disapproved, and he decided that he’d just start grazing for free instead of paying.

Minor error. changed the formula AND put a cap on number of cattle that could use the area AND made certain areas off-limits.

Bundy objected to all of them, in part and in whole.

316 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:00:16am

Is there such thing as too much schadenfreude?

317 CuriousLurker  Apr 25, 2014 7:01:25am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just thought I’d stop by for a minute and let you know they removed my son from life support yesterday. He is in a hospice room where he is on a morphine drip and oxygen, but is not being fed; they’re just making him comfortable. We were told that the cause of death will be apoxia, or lack of oxygen to the brain, which occurred when he had cardiac arrest Sunday morning. His internal organs will stop functioning altogether, but he is able to breathe on his own pretty well. It seems like it’s a conflicted situation, but we were told that he had suffered irreversible brain damage, even though his body appears to be functioning all right on the outside. I’m beginning to think that his liver might have already been failing for the last month or so, and caused the cardiac arrest, but he didn’t want to tell us, although he had hinted something was wrong. They said at the hospital it had failed completely and they also said his kidneys were failing as well when they took him off life support.

My granddaughter and I spent the night with him last night and it’s been heartbreaking. Just came home to an empty apt (my g-son and gg-son spent the night w/friends) and we’ll all gather at the hospital today since we don’t know when he will pass away. We’re all holding up pretty well; we’ve done a lot of crying each day, but it’s a bit of relief. Everyone at the hospital has been wonderful, competent, professional. So, we’re appreciative of everyone’s kind thoughts as we get through this ordeal. : )

I’m so very, very sorry you’re going through this. As the mother of a 30-year-old I shudder to even imagine it. Sending you lots of prayers & kind thoughts.

{{{{{{{{{{JAH}}}}}}}}}

318 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:04:06am

I stopped the video when Hannity said

proportionality

—

is that a really a word?

and

is a a new way of saying “moral equivalence’?

319 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:04:18am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 7:04:19am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Is there such thing as too much schadenfreude?

the spin on this is that “liberals are using Bundy to brand the entire Tea Party as racist”

321 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:04:46am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

big, big ((justanotherhuman))

322 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:05:31am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

the spin on this is that “liberals are using Bundy to brand the entire Tea Party as racist”

Mmmmm, we didn’t need Bundy to brand the entire GOPTP as racist.

323 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:05:41am

It’s morning, it rained last night.

Man-Cardinal is singing his lungs out this morning.

you?

324 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 7:05:54am

re: #314 Ian G.

We’re not allowed to talk about poor whites, or dysfunction in lower-class white communities. That might cost the GOP votes!

Nor do we mentioned that the majority of states that receive more in government benefits than they pay in taxes are GOP-majority states…

325 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 7:06:32am

re: #322 Dr. Matt

Mmmmm, we didn’t need Bundy to brand the entire GOPTP as racist.

They can now use him as a lightning rod…

326 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:07:15am
327 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 7:08:02am
328 CuriousLurker  Apr 25, 2014 7:08:18am

re: #279 Pie-onist Overlord

Now here is the Twitter feed of a guy who has decided to wage his own personal “jihad” of becoming a kinder, more compassionate, tolerant and loving human being.

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He’s such a calm island of sanity in the often tumultuous twitterverse—he totally understands the “greater jihad” concept.

329 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 7:09:44am

re: #323 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning, it rained last night.

Man-Cardinal is singing his lungs out this morning.

you?

Clear and cool again today. Up early and spent time reading before going to work. Less issue with cats today - I guess working closer to their schedule makes them happier.*

* - Plus I think they enjoyed playing “red dot must die” last night.

330 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:10:31am

re: #329 Feline Fearless Leader

Clear and cool again today. Up early and spent time reading before going to work. Less issue with cats today - I guess working closer to their schedule makes them happier.*

* - Plus I think they enjoyed playing “red dot must die” last night.

red dot must die is a great game.

331 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:14:21am

Been busy with non-computer related activities this week.

Have I missed anything important?

332 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:16:17am

re: #279 Pie-onist Overlord

Now here is the Twitter feed of a guy who has decided to wage his own personal “jihad” of becoming a kinder, more compassionate, tolerant and loving human being.

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I love that guy!

333 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 7:16:30am

re: #331 FemNaziBitch

Been busy with non-computer related activities this week.

Have I missed anything important?

Cliven Bundy’s support collapsing like a souffle?

334 gwangung  Apr 25, 2014 7:22:24am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Ah, man…hugs…hugs…..

335 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 7:23:11am

re: #327 NJDhockeyfan

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Pro-Palestinian activists leave ‘eviction’ notices for Jewish NYU students

336 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:24:33am

re: #331 FemNaziBitch

Been busy with non-computer related activities this week.

Have I missed anything important?

Sean Hannity’s butthurt reached eleven.

337 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 7:26:27am

re: #335 Killgore Trout

Pro-Palestinian activists leave ‘eviction’ notices for Jewish NYU students

Evicting Jews can lead to disastrous consequences down the line…don’t these guys ever learn?

338 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 7:27:54am

Hey Jewish Republicans, how do you like this meme your Tea Party friends are Tweeting?
(Don’t know if it is a Fake Quote)

339 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:28:38am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey Jewish Republicans, how do you like this meme your Tea Party friends are Tweeting?
(Don’t know if it is a Fake Quote)

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Of course, he was speaking of white male landowners… . .

everyone else wasn’t human.

340 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 7:29:48am

re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Evicting Jews can lead to disastrous consequences down the line…don’t these guys ever learn?

It’s really hard to convince committed activists their tactics are counterproductive. PETA has been shooting itself in the foot for decades without a hint of self awareness.

341 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:30:13am

Old [x]
White [x]
Racist [x]
Moocher [x]
Anti-gummit [x]

342 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:30:53am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey Jewish Republicans, how do you like this meme your Tea Party friends are Tweeting?
(Don’t know if it is a Fake Quote)

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Jay, who served as vice-president (1816-21) and president (1821-27) of the American Bible Society,[30] believed that the most effective way of ensuring world peace was through propagation of the Christian gospel. In a letter addressed to Pennsylvania House of Representatives member John Murray, dated October 12, 1816, Jay wrote, “Real Christians will abstain from violating the rights of others, and therefore will not provoke war. Almost all nations have peace or war at the will and pleasure of rulers whom they do not elect, and who are not always wise or virtuous. Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”[31] He also expressed a belief that the moral precepts of Christianity were necessary for good government, saying, “No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian Religion. Should our Republic ever forget this fundamental precept of governance, we will then, be surely doomed.”[32]

343 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 7:30:57am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

(Don’t know if it is a Fake Quote)

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…no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Remember where that came from, you dickheads?

344 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:31:55am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

>…no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Remember where that came from, you dickheads?

Constitution trumps random quotes by founders.

345 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 7:32:46am

A sign of things to come.

346 Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2014 7:32:47am

re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m arguing with an idiot who claims that raising minimum wage will kill jrrbs, raise prices, yada yada. Why do I bother?

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My question to that shit is, if the cost of things is so tied to wages that raising min wage will cause prices to rise, why didn’t the prices drop on items that were made overseas by cheaper labor when the companies moved their operations there?

I asked this of a Werner ladder big wig when they were moving operations to Mexico from my hometown. He said the labor and regulations were better for them to lower the cost of production. So I asked him if the price of the ladder would come down. A funny look was my answer. Why does this marriage of wages to price only work in one direction?

347 Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2014 7:34:07am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

{{{{{Justanotherhuman}}}}}

348 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 7:34:31am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

And also a reference to “Real Christians”. I think they’re much like True Scotsmen and come with a built-in set of mobile goal posts.

349 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:35:23am

re: #346 Eventual Carrion

My question to that shit is, if the cost of things is so tied to wages that raising min wage will cause prices to rise, why didn’t the prices drop on items that were made overseas by cheaper labor when the companies moved their operations there?

I asked this of a Werner ladder big wig when they were moving operations to Mexico from my hometown. He said the labor and regulations were better for them to lower the cost of production. So I asked him if the price of the ladder would come down. A funny look was my answer. Why does this marriage of wages to price only work in one direction?

They are probably brainwashed into thinking that the move was necessary to NOT raise the price of the ladder. If the price is too high, no one will buy a ladder.

The idea of those at the top (shareholder value) be asked to lower their take is unimaginable.

350 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:36:27am

re: #345 Targetpractice

A sign of things to come.

GOPer squirms on Obamacare: “I’m not saying it hasn’t worked for some people”
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) April 25, 2014

As the exchanges improve, more people get covered, and more success stories come out, the GOPTP are going to regret labeling the ACA as “Obamacare”.

351 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 7:36:48am

re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The story has been getting some airtime on the NYC metro news, but at least one report interviewed a Jewish student who’s saying it isn’t anti-Semitic because they’re involved in distributing the flyers.

Umm… no.

It’s anti-Semitic because it’s targeting the a group because of their religious and ethnic affiliation, and it’s purposefully designed to frighten and scare the recipients. And while NYU is so far claiming that Jews weren’t targeted by the flyers, it does appear that the dorms where they were distributed under doors, does have a higher than average number of Jews residing there (and the dorm has a Shabbat elevator too).

And also because the underlying reason (that Israel does it against Palestinians in a similar fashion, and that it is somehow illegal under international law) isn’t quite accurate either.

This is a worrying trend on college campuses as other schools around the country have had similar incidents in the past year. Our Shul is holding an event to alert parents and college age-students about the situation, and what they can do to counter them.

As the ADL notes, while Israel does engage in some evictions, there is a legal process to conduct the evictions, and demolitions are done when those involved are engaging in activities against Israel’s security (like allowing terrorists to use the location for smuggling, weapons preparations, etc.).

352 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:37:38am

I’m so tired of religion.

353 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 7:39:33am

re: #350 Dr. Matt

As the exchanges improve, more people get covered, and more success stories come out, the GOPTP are going to regret labeling the ACA as “Obamacare”.

Oh, there’s no doubt they did damage to the law with the name, as polls have shown time and again that if you call it the ACA and describe the things it does, people support it, but that support evaporates if you call it Obamacare. But the more people the law helps, the more that people will take pride in the name.

354 Bulworth  Apr 25, 2014 7:40:12am
GOPer squirms on Obamacare: “I’m not saying it hasn’t worked for some people”
— Talking Points Memo

FAIlure!!! TRAinWRECkl!!!! REPEALLLLL REplace (maybe)DEAth Panellls. Tyrannies@!!!

355 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 7:40:13am

re: #346 Eventual Carrion

asked this of a Werner ladder big wig when they were moving operations to Mexico from my hometown.

iirc, it was part of the plan to ease them out of Chapter 11 by cutting costs of labor and raw materials (which they were importing from countries they set up new manufacturing facilities in)

356 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:44:03am

re: #353 Targetpractice

But the more people the law helps, the more that people will take pride in the name.

Exactly. And the fact that some of the blue dogs are finally embracing the ACA/O-care shows the shift in public opinion and beginning successes of the program.

357 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 7:44:11am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

Ummm.. it’s a clipped quote of a letter written to John Murray dated 10/12/1816:

Real Christians will abstain from violating the rights of others, and therefore will not provoke war. Almost all nations have peace or war at the will and pleasure of rulers whom they do not elect, and who are not always wise or virtuous. Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.

358 Stephen T.  Apr 25, 2014 7:45:07am

re: #351 lawhawk

…a Jewish student who’s saying it isn’t anti-Semitic because they’re involved in distributing the flyers…

I forget who said it, I want to say it was Al Franken, but I may be wrong, he, or someone like him said. “There is no worse anti-Semite than a Jewish anti-Semite… and most of us are.”

359 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 7:45:31am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

Exactly. And the fact that some of the blue dogs are finally embracing the ACA/O-care shows the shift in public opinion and beginning successes of the program.

Yep. By 2016, “Repeal Only” is no longer going to be politically viable. There is simply no way that Republicans can salvage such an effort now that millions have been helped and millions more will benefit in the next two years.

360 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 7:47:33am

re: #359 Targetpractice

Yep. By 2016, “Repeal Only” is no longer going to be politically viable. There is simply no way that Republicans can salvage such an effort now that millions have been helped and millions more will benefit in the next two years.

And “voting GOP” will be treated as a preexisting condition.
///

(I seem to recall an old “Life in Hell” cartoon that featured Akbar & Jeff’s Rehabilitation Hut that included a claim they could treat “voting Republican” amongst other addictions.)

361 Snarknado!  Apr 25, 2014 7:47:37am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

My condolences.

362 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:47:56am

re: #354 Bulworth

FAIlure!!! TRAinWRECkl!!!! REPEALLLLL REplace (maybe)DEAth Panellls. Tyrannies@!!!

We are Going to Repeal Every Word of Obamacare

#Dramaqueen

363 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 7:48:22am

re: #359 Targetpractice

Boehner’s going to trot out repeal ACA as long as he possibly can. He was at it again yesterday, only this time claiming that doing so would make health care cheaper and create jobs - both of which are laughable as so much word salad.

364 Ian G.  Apr 25, 2014 7:52:03am

Apologies if this has been posted already, but Michael Tomasky nails it (and sums up pretty much every teabagger tweet posted about Bundy):

thedailybeast.com

365 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 7:52:21am

‘Repeal ACA’ will always likely be part of the right-wing lexicon along with: overhauling social security, medicare/caid, SNAP, and eliminating gov agencies like the FDA, ATF, etc. It sounds good to the raw meat crowd, but the vast majority of Americans just hear white noise.

366 Ian G.  Apr 25, 2014 7:53:23am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey Jewish Republicans, how do you like this meme your Tea Party friends are Tweeting?
(Don’t know if it is a Fake Quote)

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David Horowitz would like to remind you that Hitler and Obama are both leftists and shut up.

367 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 7:53:26am

The money behind Rand Paul’s expected 2016 campaign starting to come into focus.

368 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 7:55:19am
369 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 7:58:03am

Uncle Ruckus is flapping his pie hole again:

370 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 7:59:58am

Hey, I need a program to burn a CD and get it’s information correctly, because Windows Media Player continues to fuck the goat.

371 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2014 8:01:08am

re: #345 Targetpractice

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A sign of things to come.

Something very important about ACA that doesn’t get any attention is the fat that those of us who already had health insurance reaped huge benefits from the removal of pre-existing conditions.
How quickly people forget about how some insurance companies almost always charged higher premiums and had waiting periods of up to two years before covering said pre-existing conditions.
There were other immediate benefits from ACA, but the pre-existing conditions part is, in my mind, probably the biggest one.

372 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 8:03:42am

re: #352 FemNaziBitch

I’m so tired of religion.

I’m so tired of humans who are religious and use it as a club against others.

373 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 8:03:48am
374 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 8:05:47am

re: #370 The War TARDIS

Hey, I need a program to burn a CD and get it’s information correctly, because Windows Media Player continues to fuck the goat.

Nero seems to be fairly successful and easy to use. Not sure if it is free as most times it comes packaged with CD/DVD setup on a lot of Windows machines.

375 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 8:06:46am

re: #372 ObserverArt

I’m so tired of humans who are religious and use it as a club against others.

the paranoia —I think the Russian Orthodox Church rearing it’s whacko head is scary as shit.

376 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:07:54am

McConnell’s Tea Party Challenger Caught Attending a Cockfighting Rally
Anxiously awaiting the “wide stance” defense

377 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:08:58am

Attn:gus
You made The Blaze last night! lol

378 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:09:41am

re: #376 Killgore Trout

McConnell’s Tea Party Challenger Caught Attending a Cockfighting Rally
Anxiously awaiting the “wide stance” defense

So many lines,,, so little time!!!

379 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:11:22am

Vice journalists captured by pro-Russian militia tells his story
‘I Had It Pretty Easy, Because I Was Let Go’: Simon Ostrovsky On His Detention in Sloviansk

380 Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2014 8:11:44am

re: #369 Lidane

Uncle Ruckus is flapping his pie hole again:

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lololol

“Uncle Ruckus”.

:D

381 CuriousLurker  Apr 25, 2014 8:12:00am

OT Drive-by - Sheesh, the charts in this WaPo article almost succeed in making Americans look like teetotalers:

The world’s boozing habits revealed. There are some surprises

382 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:13:28am

re: #377 Killgore Trout

Attn:gus
You made The Blaze last night! lol

I’m famous! A Tweet right?

383 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:13:42am

Obama gets tough on Abbas, threatens time out
‘Pause’ perhaps needed in Israeli-Palestinian talks: Obama

384 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:13:57am

re: #382 Gus

I’m famous! A Tweet right?

yeah.

385 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:14:32am

re: #384 Killgore Trout

yeah.

Looking. Loading. Waiting.

386 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 8:14:57am

Well, I have to start my day,

Have a good one all.

387 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:15:17am

re: #384 Killgore Trout

yeah.

Ah, they used my serious one.

388 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 8:16:04am

re: #387 Gus

Ah, they used my serious one.

Link?

389 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 8:16:27am

Rebranding!

390 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:16:54am

re: #387 Gus

Ah, they used my serious one.

I thought that was interesting too. Yours was the only non-snark one they chose.

391 Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2014 8:17:16am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

I am so sorry Justa. You are in my thoughts.

392 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:17:19am

re: #388 Dr. Matt

Link?

theblaze.com

393 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:18:13am

re: #383 Killgore Trout

Obama gets tough on Abbas, threatens time out
‘Pause’ perhaps needed in Israeli-Palestinian talks: Obama

Maybe a beer summit is needed!!!

394 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:19:19am

re: #393 sattv4u2

Maybe a beer summit is needed!!!

Falafel party!

395 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 8:19:43am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Justanotherhuman, I am so very sorry to hear this.
Thank heavens he is in a hospital that will let him go in peace and with understanding for your family.

396 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:19:45am

re: #394 Killgore Trout

Falafel party!

WaffleLafel!!!

397 makeitstop  Apr 25, 2014 8:21:13am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey Jewish Republicans, how do you like this meme your Tea Party friends are Tweeting?
(Don’t know if it is a Fake Quote)

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Founder’s Quotes says it’s real - and the full quote is actually worse.

Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.

It is to be regretted, but so I believe the fact to be, that except the Bible there is not a true history in the world. Whatever may be the virtue, discernment, and industry of the writers, I am persuaded that truth and error (though in different degrees) will imperceptibly become and remain mixed and blended until they shall be separated forever by the great and last refining fire.

I’m kind of surprised that the wingnut didn’t include the Bible bit.

398 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:21:38am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

There are no words, but you and yours are in my prayers

399 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:23:42am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Sorry to hear about this {{{{{{{{Justanotherhuman}}}}}}}} :-(

400 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 8:23:48am

401 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:24:22am

Seriously, the State Dept needs to rethink its use of twitter. The Egyptian embassy had some trouble with it a while back too. Use it for official statements and announcements. Twitter squabbling is stupid enough when “journalists” like Peirs Morgan does it, there’s no need for the State Dept to be taunting on twitter like some basement dwelling moron. It really doesn’t help anyone to take our foreign policy seriously.

402 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:27:02am

re: #401 Killgore Trout

Sadly, I doubt the bell will be unrung. The temptation now is too great to not instantly put out every thought that comes into ones head without a filter

403 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:27:46am
404 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:28:39am

re: #403 Gus

a cigarette smoking penguin

Obviously stunted his/her growth

405 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 8:28:51am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

{{{{{JAH}}}}}

406 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:29:38am

re: #404 sattv4u2

a cigarette smoking penguin

Obviously stunted his/her growth

Ah. Just noticed that. I see I’m paying attention. Better not fly the 747 today. :D

407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 8:30:07am

re: #400 Lidane

WND insists Cliven Bundy isn’t racist because he was “inviting blacks and Latinos” to a big party

“I hereby invite The Negro to leave the porch of his government house and come celebrate with me!”

408 Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2014 8:30:10am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Sending strength and positive vibes your way.

409 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 8:30:32am

re: #381 CuriousLurker

A number of them a Muslim Countries:

Tunisia, Senegal, Malaysia, UAE, Burkina Faso, Pakistan, the Seychelles, Chad, Kazakhstan, Indonesia, Yemen, Qatar, Tajikstan, Saudi Arabia, Mali, Gambia, and Sudan.

410 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:31:04am

Life.

411 nines09  Apr 25, 2014 8:35:47am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Just a hug and a kind thought your way.

412 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 8:38:15am

re: #402 sattv4u2

Sadly, I doubt the bell will be unrung. The temptation now is too great to not instantly put out every thought that comes into ones head without a filter

John Podesta is on White house staff now. He should be media savvy enough to know that our diplomats behaving like Suey Park just looks bad. Obama keeps pretty tight message control in his administration, he could crack down.

413 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2014 8:39:22am

MrBWS is off to our local sheriff’s office and county clerk to see if a particular annoyance can be resolved.
He keeps getting pulled over because the license plate on his truck keeps getting “pinged” for someone who has arrest warrants. It always gets sorted out quickly that husband is not the nefarious person. The police always apologize but the last officer told him that this will likely continue because the incorrect information is already in the system and there’s no way to remove or fix it. (!!!)
But, in addition to being an annoyance, there’s the possibility that one day it might turn out to be a very bad outcome.
So, he’s thinking that maybe just getting a new plate might be a solution.

414 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:41:38am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

How ‘bout just going to the DMV and having them issue a different plate #

415 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:41:47am

re: #412 Killgore Trout

John Podesta is on White house staff now. He should be media savvy enough to know that our diplomats behaving like Suey Park just looks bad. Obama keeps pretty tight message control in his administration, he could crack down.

Hayes Brown chimes in here with some snark. stream.aljazeera.com

416 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2014 8:42:21am

re: #414 sattv4u2

How ‘bout just going to the DMV and having them issue a different plate #

That’s what he is going to try to accomplish today. The county clerk is our DMV.

417 sattv4u2  Apr 25, 2014 8:42:52am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s what he is going to try to accomplish today. The county clerk is our DMV.

Ahhhh ,,,, K,,,

418 Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2014 8:43:49am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian Religion.

Really? The Romans? The Chinese (Despite the many ruling dynasties their culture has been pretty much continuous)? The Achaemenids? The Tokugawa Shogunate? Ancient Egypt? They seemed to do all right despite ‘lack of Christianity’.

Man, I so dislike people who come to a conclusion and then find data to support it.

419 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:43:58am

Oh boy.

420 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 8:44:35am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS is off to our local sheriff’s office and county clerk to see if a particular annoyance can be resolved.
He keeps getting pulled over because the license plate on his truck keeps getting “pinged” for someone who has arrest warrants. It always gets sorted out quickly that husband is not the nefarious person. The police always apologize but the last officer told him that this will likely continue because the incorrect information is already in the system and there’s no way to remove or fix it. (!!!)
But, in addition to being an annoyance, there’s the possibility that one day it might turn out to be a very bad outcome.
So, he’s thinking that maybe just getting a new plate might be a solution.

Is it the license plate registration that is the problem, or is it a duplicate or similar name and local that is causing him to be stopped? If it is his name that is shared with the wanted one, license plate might not be enough…unless they can put in extra notes to the new plate saying that this (name) is not the person you are looking for.

421 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:45:10am

An association of Russia’s largest Internet companies will create an Edward Snowden online media award named after the fugitive U.S. security leaker to honor journalists’ achievements, the association’s chief said.

Russian Electronic Communications Association head Sergei Plugotarenko said Thursday that his group — which includes more than 100 of Russia’s largest online companies, such as mail.ru, Yandex, and news agencies Interfax, RIA Novosti and Ekho Moskvy — has “received official permission from Snowden” to use his name in the award, lenta.ru reported.

The association’s spokeswoman Yekaterina Vorobyova said the award will honor accomplishments in civic journalism, breaking news reporting and in a number of other still-to-be-determined categories.

422 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2014 8:46:04am

re: #420 ObserverArt

Is it the license plate registration that is the problem, or is it a duplicate or similar name and local that is causing him to be stopped? If it is his name that is shared with the wanted one, license plate might not be enough…unless they can put in extra notes to the new plate saying that this (name) is not the person you are looking for.

It’s the license plate ping that’s the problem. Once the officer physically runs the plate, everything is OK. The bad guy’s name is totally different.

423 makeitstop  Apr 25, 2014 8:46:38am

re: #419 Gus

Oh boy.

Russian Journalism Award Named for Snowden

The ‘Dudebro Douchecanoe Award of Journalistic Excellence?’

The ‘Traitorous Asswipe’ Award?

424 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 25, 2014 8:47:28am

Happy friday fellow Lizards!

425 Political Atheist  Apr 25, 2014 8:48:33am

re: #419 Gus

Oh boy.

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re: #423 makeitstop

The ‘Dudebro Douchecanoe Award of Journalistic Excellence?’

The ‘Traitorous Asswipe’ Award?

Pets are so easily pleased. Edward reaps the rewards of Russian sponsorship.

426 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 8:50:08am

re: #418 Romantic Heretic

Really? The Romans? The Chinese (Despite the many ruling dynasties their culture has been pretty much continuous)? The Achaemenids? The Tokugawa Shogunate? Ancient Egypt? They seemed to do all right despite ‘lack of Christianity’.

Man, I so dislike people who come to a conclusion and then find data to support it.

Of course, John Jay was presumably a man of his time, just like everyone is. It’s the people now, with immediate access to better information, who think this is a valid point that drive me nuts.

427 Ed E. Lishus  Apr 25, 2014 8:54:48am

re: #338 Pie-onist Overlord

I could see Jewish conservatives like Dennis Prager having no problem with that quote, actually.

428 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 8:57:56am

Hamas and Fatah form coalition government. Nothing to see here other than Hamas is considered a terrorist organization.

429 Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2014 8:58:51am

re: #352 FemNaziBitch

I’m so tired of religion.

Humans being what they are if there was no religion they’d use politics or economics to hate one another.

430 kirkspencer  Apr 25, 2014 8:59:14am

re: #418 Romantic Heretic

Really? The Romans? The Chinese (Despite the many ruling dynasties their culture has been pretty much continuous)? The Achaemenids? The Tokugawa Shogunate? Ancient Egypt? They seemed to do all right despite ‘lack of Christianity’.

Man, I so dislike people who come to a conclusion and then find data to support it.

One of the fun things to do with history is to point out that the decline of Rome started when it became a Christian empire under Constantine. (It’s equally valid to say it started when they moved the capital from Rome to Nova Roma (later known as Constantine’s city aka Constantinople). But less fun.)

431 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 9:07:05am

re: #429 Romantic Heretic

Humans being what they are if there was no religion they’d use politics or economics to hate one another.

Look at Ireland: they have no racial minorities, so they base their bigotry almost entirely on religion.

432 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 9:10:30am

re: #429 Romantic Heretic

Humans being what they are if there was no religion they’d use politics or economics to hate one another.

Actually, too many times it is religion that drives the political and economic hate.

To me ‘religion’ is all about man and his conventions and has nothing to do with spirituality.

One on one…groups are dangerous.

433 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:10:43am
434 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 9:10:44am

re: #329 Feline Fearless Leader

Clear and cool again today. Up early and spent time reading before going to work. Less issue with cats today - I guess working closer to their schedule makes them happier.*

* - Plus I think they enjoyed playing “red dot must die” last night.

Mine get very “antsy” when I teach from home. They are like “How come you’re here? Go away”.

And mine have learned to ignore the red dot… look at me like ‘yea, it’s a laser… we’re glad it amuses you’

RBS

435 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 9:13:41am

re: #432 ObserverArt

Actually, too many times it is religion that drives the political and economic hate.

To me ‘religion’ is all about man and his conventions and has nothing to do with spirituality.

One on one…groups are dangerous.

Broad brushes are also dangerous, or at least unkind.

Some people use religion to serve others, not themselves.

436 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:14:29am

The violence erupted after the unidentified boy, also 16, shoved the victim, identified as Maren Sanchez, down the stairs and tried to choke her inside Jonathan Law High School in Milford about 7:15 a.m., friends told the Daily News.

437 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 9:17:07am

Outrage!

(From the Free Beacon)

Quinn Campaign Silent on Support for Nazi Article
Jewish leaders demand Illinois governor publicly apologize

Illinois Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn is ducking questions about his campaign’s promotion of a controversial article comparing black Republican voters to Jews who collaborated with the Nazis.

Quinn found himself engulfed in controversy on Wednesday after the Washington Free Beacon revealed that his campaign had urged backers several times via Twitter to read the article. The tweets were later deleted after some in the Jewish community expressed outrage.

Now Jewish leaders are calling on Quinn to publicly distance himself from the controversy and apologize to both the Jewish and black communities.

The controversy hinges on the Quinn campaign’s promotion of a Chicago Sun Times article by writer Neil Steinberg that compared black supporters of Republican gubernatorial candidate Bruce Rauner to Jews who collaborated with the Nazis against their brethren.

“As a general rule, individuals will sell out the interests of their groups in return for personal benefit,” Steinberg wrote in his column, which claimed that Rauner is buying off the black community and its leaders. “It isn’t just a black thing. Jews collaborated with the Nazis during World War II, helping them to round up their own people in the hopes they’d be the last to go.”

The Quinn campaign then tweeted—and later deleted—several messages praising the piece and urging backers to read it.

Quinn is scheduled Thursday night to be the “guest of honor” at an even honoring the victims of the Holocaust, according to a copy of the invitation obtained by the Free Beacon.

The event, which is being organized by the Consulate General of the Republic of Poland in Chicago, will feature Quinn as well as a discussion about Polish efforts to save Jews from the Nazis.

One Chicago-based Jewish community leader who learned of the event expressed outrage when approached by the Free Beacon.

“I find it absolutely outrageous that Pat Quinn thinks he can diminish Holocaust victims for political gain one day and then honor their memory the next,” said the source, who requested anonymity in order to speak freely. “Governor Quinn needs to clearly state an apology for these tweets during tonight’s event.”

Jewish leaders, black community members, and Illinois political insiders all expressed outrage at what they described as the Quinn campaign’s callous behavior.

Calls to the Quinn campaign on Wednesday and Thursday were not returned.

…

438 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:17:45am
439 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 9:19:45am

re: #428 Gus

Hamas and Fatah form coalition government. Nothing to see here other than Hamas is considered a terrorist organization.

I don’t think it’s politically viable to withdraw funding, the humanitarian outcry would be serious. We’ll continue funding them indirectly and they know it. There’s no incentive for peace.

440 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:19:54am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Outrage!

(From the Free Beacon)

Quinn Campaign Silent on Support for Nazi Article
Jewish leaders demand Illinois governor publicly apologize

Nothing to see here.

441 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 9:21:03am

Clock’s ticking, Johnny.

442 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 9:23:43am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Do not Godwin, like ever.

What a dork.

443 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2014 9:24:08am

License plate problem solved.
In Kentucky, the plate stays with the vehicle when ownership changes within the Commonwealth. (If transfer is outside of state lines, the plate is removed and turned into the DMV.)
Turns out that the bad guy was the previous owner of husband’s truck (which husband purchased several years ago via a local used dealership). Sheriff’s office pinged the plate and, yes, bad guy showed up on the ping.
So, $6 for a new plate and license registration. He should be good to go now.

444 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 9:25:29am

You can practically see the desperation wafting off the man.

445 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 9:27:35am

re: #444 Targetpractice

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You can practically see the desperation wafting off the man.

Hating Obama automatically makes one a hero in many people’s eyes

446 kirkspencer  Apr 25, 2014 9:27:37am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

yaknow, everyone condemns one party (R) for tying a race’s voting patterns to the holocaust and slavery. You’d think members of the other party would pay attention, not say, “Hey, that looks like a good idea.”

447 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 9:27:37am

re: #444 Targetpractice

You can practically see the desperation wafting off the man.

Translation: “I’m a victim….waaaaaaaaah”

448 Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2014 9:28:04am

re: #446 kirkspencer

yaknow, everyone condemns one party (R) for tying a race’s voting patterns to the holocaust and slavery. You’d think members of the other party would pay attention, not say, “Hey, that looks like a good idea.”

You’d think that…
e_e

449 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 9:28:50am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Sorry, but considering how the Republican party treats minorities, I don’t see the problem.

I’ve used a k-word to describe Muslim Republicans.

450 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 9:29:18am

re: #447 Dr. Matt

Translation: “I’m a victim….waaaaaaaaah”

Yeah, he’s pulling the Breitbart Maneuver: “They’re only after me because I hate Obama!”

451 Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2014 9:29:25am

re: #449 The War TARDIS

Sorry, but considering how the Republican party treats minorities, I don’t see the problem.

I’ve used a k-word to describe Muslim Republicans.

No, just no.

452 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 9:30:48am

re: #444 Targetpractice

D’Souza’s lawyer’s suggestion that his client was being selectively targeted was “without merit.”

“Without merit”? His lawyer(s) admitted that D’Souza was “guilty” of not knowing he was breaking the law, i.e., he was breaking the law, but ignorant of it!

“Hey officer, I didn’t realize I was doing 20 miles over the speed limit. Your ticket is without merit”

453 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:32:14am
454 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:33:17am
455 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 9:33:51am

re: #440 Gus

Nothing to see here.

Crickets

456 Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2014 9:35:04am

Gee, I can’t imagine why an anti-government nutter would be associated with a political party that runs on a platform that government is the source of so many of the country’s problems…

457 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 9:35:28am

re: #449 The War TARDIS

Well, what do you recommend I call them? These are people who side with those that would persecute us for money, power, or favors.

458 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 9:36:12am

re: #453 Gus

The award is valid, and the name has been freed from the confines of an oppressive and controlling entity for the betterment of all mankind. It’s heroic in its obligation to make the world a better place by making the name free for all to use. /////Russian Electronic Communications Association

459 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 9:36:37am
460 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 9:36:46am

re: #453 Gus

[Embedded content]

Because the Russians wouldn’t do anything without asking Snowden if it was alright.

//

461 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:38:39am

re: #458 lawhawk

The award is valid, and the name has been freed from the confines of an oppressive and controlling entity for the betterment of all mankind. It’s heroic in its obligation to make the world a better place by making the name free for all to use. /////Russian Electronic Communications Association

They’re fighting over it now. On Twitter.

462 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 9:38:41am

re: #454 Gus

[Embedded content]

I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that he sounded like Andy Devine when he spoke day before yesterday.

463 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 9:38:50am

re: #435 wrenchwench

Broad brushes are also dangerous, or at least unkind.

Some people use religion to serve others, not themselves.

Oh I agree. My wording was too quick and I can see how it could be taken wrong. I was addressing ‘hating each other’ in the original comment to which I was responding.

I agree not all religious groups are bad, but when a group uses religion as a reason to hate others, it can be doubly dangerous compared to just politics or economics as they feel they have God on their side and they can not be wrong.

Sorry about the lazy commenting. I didn’t mean to broad brush.

464 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 9:39:38am

re: #370 The War TARDIS

Hey, I need a program to burn a CD and get it’s information correctly, because Windows Media Player continues to fuck the goat.

CD Burner XP Fast, Free, Reliable. It’s what I use.

RBS

465 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 9:41:28am

re: #463 ObserverArt

Oh I agree. My wording was too quick and I can see how it could be taken wrong. I was addressing ‘hating each other’ in the original comment to which I was responding.

I agree not all religious groups are bad, but when a group uses religion as a reason to hate others, it can be doubly dangerous compared to just politics or economics as they feel they have God on their side and they can not be wrong.

Sorry about the lazy commenting. I didn’t mean to broad brush.

I didn’t mean to jump on you. It was a continuous thread that I jumped on the end of.

I always try to avoid the self-righteous, whether atheist, religious, or other.

466 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 9:41:38am

Comrade Snowden sure does have some weird western handlers.

467 darthstar  Apr 25, 2014 9:42:06am

Bundy’s getting damn close to adopting a Romney.

468 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 9:42:14am

re: #466 b.d.
He told no one it was true so it must be false?

469 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:44:49am

Answer: yes

470 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 9:45:18am

re: #467 darthstar

Bundy’s getting damn close to adopting a Romney.

[Embedded content]

I was looking for info on the armed troll on that guy’s shirt. I found this:

Always be ready.
5.11 is currently down for maintenance

lol

471 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:46:54am

re: #468 b.d.

He told no one it was true so it must be false?

Doesn’t really matter. “Russia” doesn’t need his permission.

472 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:48:02am

Put Russia in quotes to signify various internal groups governmental and non-governmental.

473 Alyosha  Apr 25, 2014 9:48:20am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

I’m still a greenhorn here and there’s a likelihood that with all that’s going on, you’ll never read this, but my grandparents faced a scenario similar in many ways to yours.
However impersonal this kind of communication is, I can only send my condolences.
{{{JAH}}}

474 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 9:49:25am

Mona Holland will be linking this Tweet to “our” Charles.

475 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 9:51:52am

re: #474 Pie-onist Overlord

Mona Holland will be linking this Tweet to “our” Charles.

[Embedded content]

Like saying ‘our brothers’ is some kind of guarantee against hate. Has he not heard of Cain and Abel?

476 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:51:56am
477 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 9:53:52am

re: #471 Gus

Doesn’t really matter. “Russia” doesn’t need his permission.

Isn’t Snowden a registered trademark of GlennCo?

478 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:54:31am

Looks like a bunch of us made the rounds.

businessinsider.com

479 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 9:55:09am
480 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 9:56:18am

re: #477 b.d.

Isn’t Snowden a registered trademark of GlennCo?

Glen Greenwald© Edward Snowden™

481 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 9:57:13am

re: #480 Gus

Glen Greenwald(c) Edward SnowdenTM

ShamWow, the journalism version.

482 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 9:57:34am

Shorter Bundy: “Some of my best friends are black.”

483 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:02:00am
484 Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2014 10:02:03am

re: #479 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The whole thing is an hourish long.
I watched it.
Made him sound worse than that sound bites did.

485 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:03:16am

I’m almost tapped out on Cliven Bundy. Heard enough already. Whew.

486 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 10:03:22am

re: #484 Varek Raith

The whole thing is an hourish long.
I watched it.
Made him sound worse than that sound bites did.

only because you heard it with liberal ears.

/

487 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:03:29am

For myself personally that is.

488 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 10:03:45am

re: #485 Gus

I’m almost tapped out on Cliven Bundy. Heard enough already. Whew.

One more for good measure:

489 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 10:04:43am

re: #476 Gus

[Embedded content]

If Rumsfeld is lucky, his legacy will be the ‘known unknown’ remarks.

490 Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2014 10:06:26am
491 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 10:06:30am

re: #489 wrenchwench

If Rumsfeld is lucky, his legacy will be the ‘known unknown’ remarks.

I hope he will go down in history as the man who sold Saddam Hussein chemical weapons…

492 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:07:14am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

{{JAH}}

When we lost my grandmother suddenly to a stroke with irreversible brain damage, one of the small comforts was that her last conscious day was painfree, with my dad, getting to go out shopping and doing some of the things she loved. I hope that you can find some of that small comfort too, in having gotten to share Saturday evening with your son.

Thinking of you and your family, and we will be here when you are ready to come back.

493 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 10:07:40am
494 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:09:51am

Wheee!

495 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:10:22am

re: #493 lawhawk

From the local grapevine, Apple is apparently a kind of shitty place to work unless you’re a more senior developer.

496 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:12:05am

re: #444 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

You can practically see the desperation wafting off the man.

Yes. It’s interesting watching the smarmy, “I’m so smart I can do what I want and get away with it” evolve into flop sweat.

497 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:12:07am
498 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 10:12:12am

re: #494 Lidane

Wheee!

Texas GOPer accuses George W. Bush of aiding “stealth jihad,” Muslim “psychological warfare”

They will eat their own…

499 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:12:22am

re: #495 klys

From the local grapevine, Apple is apparently a kind of shitty place to work unless you’re a more senior developer.

From what I understand, that’s a common refrain at a lot of the big Silicon Valley companies.

500 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:12:43am
501 Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2014 10:13:31am

re: #497 Gus

[Embedded content]

Cloaking device.

502 Alyosha  Apr 25, 2014 10:13:41am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Is there such thing as too much schadenfreude?

The metrics on that are currently being calibrated. Gorge yourself now. It’s dark-chocolate.

503 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:14:29am

LOL no. When branding experts are brought into a show as established as Meet The Press, it has nothing to do with your strengths and everything to do with trying to salvage a show that’s clearly circling the drain.

504 Decatur Deb  Apr 25, 2014 10:14:50am

re: #500 Gus

[Embedded content]

While walking the dog, saw a Ford Tri-motor make several low passes over the neighborhood. News check showed one is in town for the weekend.

505 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:15:17am

re: #499 Lidane

From what I understand, that’s a common refrain at a lot of the big Silicon Valley companies.

Google is just a giant traffic generating monster sucking up all in its path.

Apparently their interview process is kind of hellish and they take their sweet time getting back to you with an answer.

506 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:16:32am

re: #504 Decatur Deb

While walking the dog, saw a Ford Tri-motor make several low passes over the neighborhood. News check showed one is in town for the weekend.

Going?

507 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 10:16:58am

re: #495 klys

Well, apparently the lawsuit deals with the four companies agreeing not to hire from the other companies and poach talent. That would let them keep certain people locked up in their jobs, depress the wages across the board, and limit where people could go to similar high performing companies.

Had it gone to trial, the companies stood to potentially lose $3 billion (or $9 billion in punitive damages), but the plaintiffs could have lost on appeal if the appellate level found that they shouldn’t have been certifiable as a class.

508 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:17:32am

re: #497 Gus

[Embedded content]

Try seeing a brindle Greyhound outside in twilight.

509 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:17:34am

re: #504 Decatur Deb

While walking the dog, saw a Ford Tri-motor make several low passes over the neighborhood. News check showed one is in town for the weekend.

$75

510 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 10:18:14am

re: #499 Lidane

From what I understand, that’s a common refrain at a lot of the big Silicon Valley companies.

Very interesting. I wonder how the libertarian dudebro thinking figures into all of that?

511 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:18:29am

re: #505 klys

Google is just a giant traffic generating monster sucking up all in its path.

Apparently their interview process is kind of hellish and they take their sweet time getting back to you with an answer.

I don’t know their interview process, but the last company I worked for was based in Mountain View and was close to Google HQ. Google had even bought up all the buildings around that company and were making a play for it when I got laid off. Heard through the grapevine later that they bought the building and that my former company will have to move, but they’ve got a few years before they need to be out.

512 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 10:18:49am

FYI. Here is the entire Bundy video which clocks in at just over an hour: bambuser.com

513 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 10:19:00am

re: #504 Decatur Deb

While walking the dog, saw a Ford Tri-motor make several low passes over the neighborhood. News check showed one is in town for the weekend.

There is an old Junkers-52 trimotor that does panorama flights over the Rhine valley. I can hear those big 900-hp Jumo motors rumbling from miles away, I always go out to watch it glide over.

514 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:19:07am

re: #507 lawhawk

I read the article and my main takeaway was, once again, that Steve Jobs was kind of an asshole.

On the flipside, I have to laugh a little bit at hearing software engineers arguing that their wages are depressed. Just a teensy bit out of touch with the rest of the country, there.

515 Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2014 10:19:09am

CNN Asks Cliven Bundy: ‘How Does It Feel To Be Abandoned By Your Friends At Fox?’

CNN? Really?

huffingtonpost.com

516 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:19:10am

An hour of Bundy. Nope. :D

517 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:20:20am

re: #516 Gus

An hour of Bundy. Nope. :D

Somebody else can watch it for me. I’ll read the bullet points, though.

518 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:20:57am

re: #511 Lidane

My husband works at the same exit as Google HQ.

I’m not really kidding when I describe them as a giant traffic-generating monster sucking up all in their path.

519 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:20:59am
520 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:21:17am
521 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 10:22:58am
522 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 10:22:59am

re: #503 Lidane

[Embedded content]

LOL no. When branding experts are brought into a show as established as Meet The Press, it has nothing to do with your strengths and everything to do with trying to salvage a show that’s clearly circling the drain.

It used to be ‘can’t miss TV’ for me for years. Now, if I miss it, I didn’t miss anything. Lot’s of times I start to watch and then just say screw it. Gregory is just terrible. For me it has nothing to do with left/right/liberal/conservative just the fact that he is lousy at interviewing. There is no meat on the bones. And when he thinks he is being tough it comes off like he is just being smarmy.

523 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:23:19am

re: #518 klys

My husband works at the same exit as Google HQ.

I’m not really kidding when I describe them as a giant traffic-generating monster sucking up all in their path.

That’s the Shoreline exit, right? I remember being out there for a few trips to Mountain View. I was very happy I never had to drive when I was there. I would’ve been totally lost.

524 wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2014 10:23:24am

re: #516 Gus

An hour of Bundy. Nope. :D

525 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 25, 2014 10:23:53am
526 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:24:08am

re: #510 ObserverArt

Very interesting. I wonder how the libertarian dudebro thinking figures into all of that?

I’d say the libertarian dudebro thinking is just regular old business thinking. You treat well those employees who are hardest to replace and on whom the business most depends. You treat like this those who can be easily replaced. Meanwhile, you try to find a way to reduce the leverage of the ones you treat well so you can treat them like shit, too, because the more employees you can treat like shit the more profit you make.

It’s not even evil. It’s just capitalism, as it ACTUALLY works.

527 Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2014 10:24:22am

re: #521 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I hope it wasn’t in a government building, because that would be illegal.

Otherwise, being Georgia, who knows?

528 Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2014 10:25:12am

Ugh. I actually watched 10 minutes of it. It’s painful and won’t waste any time detailing his rants. It can be summed as: Bundy is Alex Jones in 27 years.

529 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:25:13am

re: #523 Lidane

That’s the Shoreline exit, right? I remember being out there for a few trips to Mountain View. I was very happy I never had to drive when I was there. I would’ve been totally lost.

Yep.

Between 9 and 11am, the exit is …slow. Very, very slow.

My main complaint about the freeways out here is that the concept of a longer on-ramp has been abandoned in the face of NO SPACE so instead you just get dumped right into the traffic at 65 and it turns out my car doesn’t accelerate that fast.

530 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 25, 2014 10:25:31am

re: #514 klys

I read the article and my main takeaway was, once again, that Steve Jobs was kind of an asshole.

On the flipside, I have to laugh a little bit at hearing software engineers arguing that their wages are depressed. Just a teensy bit out of touch with the rest of the country, there.

531 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:26:34am

re: #524 wrenchwench

532 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:27:32am

re: #529 klys

Yep.

Between 9 and 11am, the exit is …slow. Very, very slow.

My main complaint about the freeways out here is that the concept of a longer on-ramp has been abandoned in the face of NO SPACE so instead you just get dumped right into the traffic at 65 and it turns out my car doesn’t accelerate that fast.

Not to mention the ones where the off ramp overlaps the on ramp and you have to merge with car decelerating from 70+ while you’re at your slowest and they’re at their fastest.

533 Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2014 10:27:37am

Lol @ Marvel saying that Wolverine will ‘die’.
He’ll be magically back after the cash grab.

534 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:28:00am

re: #532 GeneJockey

Not to mention the ones where the off ramp overlaps the on ramp and you have to merge with car decelerating from 70+ while you’re at your slowest and they’re at their fastest.

RENGSTROFF I AM LOOKING AT YOU.

535 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 10:28:47am

re: #532 GeneJockey

Not to mention the ones where the off ramp overlaps the on ramp and you have to merge with car decelerating from 70+ while you’re at your slowest and they’re at their fastest.

And don’t forget that everyone on the highway is more important than you are so you should yield to them immediately.

536 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 10:29:51am

re: #504 Decatur Deb

While walking the dog, saw a Ford Tri-motor make several low passes over the neighborhood. News check showed one is in town for the weekend.

Wow. I wonder how many of the old corrugated tin wonders are still flying? Wiki claims 12 in existence in 2012.

There used to be a small airline that flew from Sandusky Ohio to the Ohio controlled Lake Erie islands. Island Airlines…go figure! They had three in operation and used daily. I loved watching them as a kid. My Dad was a Ford guy, so he had to see them too and it rubbed off on me. We stopped in and saw them when we were on our way to Cedar Point amusement park. Cool ol’ planes.

537 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:30:02am

re: #534 klys

RENGSTROFF I AM LOOKING AT YOU.

Grand Ave/South Airport in South City would be like that, if traffic weren’t always crawling there.

538 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 10:30:50am

re: #537 GeneJockey

Grand Ave/South Airport in South City would be like that, if traffic weren’t always crawling there.

And that’s why we stay off 101 whenever possible.

539 Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2014 10:31:45am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Uh, wait a minute. First, I would have thought you were past the point of trusting anything the Free Beacon says without double checking.

If you follow the link to this column they’re screaming about, you’ll find out that he didn’t “compare” black Republican voters to Nazis. He listed several examples from history of people acting against their own best interests. Was it in poor taste, yes. Was it comparing black voters to Nazis? That’s ridiculously false.

And these Jewish leaders who are demanding apologies from Gov. Quinn?

One Chicago-based Jewish community leader who learned of the event expressed outrage when approached by the Free Beacon.

“I find it absolutely outrageous that Pat Quinn thinks he can diminish Holocaust victims for political gain one day and then honor their memory the next,” said the source, who requested anonymity in order to speak freely. “Governor Quinn needs to clearly state an apology for these tweets during tonight’s event.”

Jewish leaders, black community members, and Illinois political insiders all expressed outrage at what they described as the Quinn campaign’s callous behavior.

What do you know - they’re anonymous.

The Free Beacon is a right wing smear machine. Never trust them.

540 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 10:32:26am

re: #530 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded image]

I borrow.

541 lawhawk  Apr 25, 2014 10:34:49am

re: #512 Dr. Matt

FYI. Here is the entire Bundy video which clocks in at just over an hour: bambuser.com

TL;WV. There’s only so much stupid and race-baiting nonsense I can take.

542 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2014 10:35:47am

re: #536 ObserverArt

Wow. I wonder how many of the old corrugated tin wonders are still flying? Wiki claims 12 in existence in 2012.

There used to be a small airline that flew from Sandusky Ohio to the Ohio controlled Lake Erie islands. Island Airlines…go figure! They had three in operation and used daily. I loved watching them as a kid. My Dad was a Ford guy, so he had to see them too and it rubbed off on me. We stopped in and saw them when we were on our way to Cedar Point amusement park. Cool ol’ planes.

I flew on that air ferry service, Ford Tri-motor between Sandusky and Bass Island. It crashed many years ago. I remember the landing strip on Bass Island being particularly heart-stopping.

543 Decatur Deb  Apr 25, 2014 10:38:45am

re: #506 Gus

Going?

Time permitting. It’s about 5 miles to the airport. The Ford has been around the area a couple times this hour, with a ceiling of only 1000 or so. Love the sound.

544 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:41:21am

re: #538 calochortus

And that’s why we stay off 101 whenever possible.

Even when it’s slow, it’s the fastest way to get to work. When it’s stop and go, not so much. And in the evenings, I’d say about 50% of the time I take 380/280/92, even though it’s significantly more miles.

545 Decatur Deb  Apr 25, 2014 10:41:35am

re: #509 Gus

$75

Love to jump it (still have a round parachute) but the chute and I would need extensive re-certification.

546 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 10:43:51am

re: #544 GeneJockey

But at least it moves…

547 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 10:46:54am

re: #546 calochortus

But at least it moves…

Unless you’re going South in the AM, or North in the PM. Luckily for me, I’m doing the opposite.

548 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 10:47:36am

re: #525 NJDhockeyfan

North Korea doesn’t think the mentally ill or criminals should be allowed to roam free. If you ask for asylum there they’re pretty sure you fall into one or both of those classes.
///

549 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 11:02:05am

re: #547 GeneJockey

Unless you’re going South in the AM, or North in the PM. Luckily for me, I’m doing the opposite.

I’m so old I remember when people lived in the suburbs and commuted into the City to work rather than the other way around.

550 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 11:05:34am

re: #549 calochortus

I’m so old I remember when people lived in the suburbs and commuted into the City to work rather than the other way around.

It ain’t that long ago. Or maybe it’s that I’m old, too.

551 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:16:05am

re: #549 calochortus

I’m so old I remember when people lived in the suburbs and commuted into the City to work rather than the other way around.

I sort of figure that the Silicon Valley sprawl has just gotten that everyone lives everywhere and commutes everywhere.

Or maybe that’s just what it feels like on 101 around Stanford.

552 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 11:18:31am

re: #551 klys

I sort of figure that the Silicon Valley sprawl has just gotten that everyone lives everywhere and commutes everywhere.

Or maybe that’s just what it feels like on 101 around Stanford.

Pretty much.

553 GeneJockey  Apr 25, 2014 11:39:27am

re: #552 calochortus

Pretty much.

I started working in South City in 1982, and at that time it definitely was still the case that traffic ran from the ‘burbs to the City in the AM, and back in the PM. Now that has largely reversed, although traffic in general is heavier going everywhere.

554 urbanmeemaw  Apr 25, 2014 1:22:04pm

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

{{{{{{{{Many prayers and hugs to you and your family. You are such a lovely person}}}}}}}}}}


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