Rand Paul: “You Go to a Republican Event and It’s All White People”

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Apparently, we’re now supposed to forget that Rand Paul once said he would have opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

And we’re not supposed to draw the obvious conclusion that he’s trying to capitalize on the Bundy Ranch mess, either.

Making the GOP slightly more libertarian is just part of Paul’s recent mission to broaden the Republican Party. The senator reiterated his message that it also needs to look different in terms of race and age.

“You go to a Republican event and it’s all white people—not because we’re excluding anybody, but because we just haven’t done a good enough job encouraging people to come into our party.”

Oh no. No, no, no. It’s not because they’ve excluded anybody. What would ever give anyone that idea?

Outreach, people. Outreach.

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484 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2014 6:11:42pm

Oh no, it’s not because we’re excluding anybody. What would ever give anyone that idea?

2 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 6:13:41pm

Does the GOP really want all those people who, let’s face it, were better under slavery?

3 Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:05pm

Jeez, Rand. You’re slow. You just noticed that now?

4 Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:27pm

We just haven’t done a good enough job of tricking people into working against their own best interests!

/

5 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:49pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Oh no, it’s not because we’re excluding anybody. What would ever give anyone that idea?

The GOP will accept any votes in its favor, even from minorities etc., but will make no effort at all to deal with its massive bigotry problem.

So I suppose it’s technically true that there are no “Whites only” signs at the door, but that really doesn’t count for very much these days.

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 25, 2014 6:14:57pm

Didn’t Rand do some pretty horrible whitesplaining to an audience of African American college students awhile back?

Anyone remember or got a link?

7 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 6:15:29pm

Dismissing over half the country as moochers, lazy freeloaders and dirty, filthy sinners who just want a government handout is kind of a turn off, Rand.

Also, that whole pandering to the Posse Comitatus nutjobs, the sovereign citizens, and the yahoos who are stupid enough to think that a bunch of hunters and neckbeards with AR-15s could overthrow the government is a problem too.

8 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 6:15:37pm

Dear GOP,

You can’t encourage people to come to your side until you stop incorporating massively insulting and patronizing ideas about them into your core ideology.

9 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 25, 2014 6:16:28pm

re: #7 Lidane

Dismissing over half the country as moochers, lazy freeloaders and dirty, filthy sinners who just want a government handout is kind of a turn off, Rand.

Also, that whole pandering to the Posse Comitatus nutjobs, the sovereign citizens, and the yahoos who are stupid enough to think that a bunch of hunters and neckbeards with AR-15s could overthrow the government is a problem too.

That’s just the government microchip talking.

10 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 6:16:44pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Didn’t Rand do some pretty horrible whitesplaining to an audience of African American college students awhile back?

Yep. That was at Howard University:

thinkprogress.org

11 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 6:16:56pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

Dear GOP,

You can’t encourage people to come to your side until you stop incorporating massively insulting and patronizing ideas about them into your core ideology.

Especially when said core ideology is often seen as a diversion from the underlying intent of the GOP to enable the top 0.01% to rob everyone else blind.

12 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 6:17:21pm

re: #9 The Ghost of a Flea

That’s just the government microchip talking.

I was born before 1980. I didn’t get one. ;)

13 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:17:45pm

SPLC Report: Nearly 100 Murdered by Stormfront Users

14 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:17:59pm

re: #12 Lidane

I was born before 1980. I didn’t get one. ;)

me either, I feel shafted.

15 b_sharp  Apr 25, 2014 6:18:31pm

Some people do not recognize the racist ‘tells’ in themselves or others.

16 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 6:19:09pm

re: #12 Lidane

I was born before 1980. I didn’t get one. ;)

There is a retro-fit kit. I love mine, I can detect open wi-fi points by the tones in my head.

RBS

17 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 6:20:07pm

re: #15 b_sharp

Some people do not recognize the racist ‘tells’ in themselves or others.

To opine that blacks may have been better off under slavery (per Bundy and, more significantly, a standard conservative talking point) cannot be regarded as mere ignorance.

Nobody is that stupid.

18 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 6:20:07pm

The shape shifting of Rand Paul really is an amazing thing to watch happening in real time.

19 jaunte  Apr 25, 2014 6:21:48pm

re: #18 b.d.

Not sure if he or Ted Cruz is a more annoying obvious condescending liar.

20 ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2014 6:21:58pm

That small image Charles posted above…why does Rand look more hayseed and ‘aw shucks’-like in it? I think Charles has used it before, and I always wonder about it. It almost looks like he is in need of a can to spit in.

Maybe it is the smile. You very rarely see him smile. Usually smirking…

21 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 6:22:36pm

WE HAVE DOCTOR BEN CARDIN SO SHUT UP LIBTARDS! YOU’RE THE REAL RACISTS!!

22 b_sharp  Apr 25, 2014 6:23:41pm

re: #17 EPR-radar

To opine that blacks may have been better off under slavery (per Bundy and, more significantly, a standard conservative talking point) cannot be regarded as mere ignorance.

Nobody is that stupid.

My brother once told me my wife didn’t act like an indian.

I told him that was a racist comment.

He didn’t understand my point.

He wasn’t a stupid man.

23 Archangelus  Apr 25, 2014 6:23:41pm

re: #13 FemNaziBitch

SPLC Report: Nearly 100 Murdered by Stormfront Users

Holy Cr*p! Seriously, how the hell have these sickos not been categorized as terrorists yet? There are hostile organizations operating in the world that have been categorized as such for killing fewer Americans!

24 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 6:24:29pm

re: #21 b.d.

CARSON! NOT CARDIN, I WAS THINKING OF ANOTHER ONE OF MY BLAH DOCTOR FRIENDS!!

25 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 6:25:28pm

re: #22 b_sharp

My brother once told me my wife didn’t act like an indian.

I told him that was a racist comment.

He didn’t understand my point.

He wasn’t a stupid man.

I was speaking specifically about “blacks being better off under slavery”. There are many other manifestations of racism for which ignorance is a perfectly reasonable explanation.

26 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 6:29:12pm

re: #19 jaunte

Cruz has been rather quiet of late? I am betting that he won’t even try and smooth out his edges for primary season, he isn’t going for the crowd who wants an acceptable candidate.

27 sagehen  Apr 25, 2014 6:29:37pm

You know what would go a long way to getting black voters to listen to Republicans with an open mind?

Stop the voter suppression crap.

Not just call halftime; really cut it the hell out.

For some reason, people don’t take you seriously asking them to vote for you, when all indications are you’d rather they not vote at all.

28 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 6:30:21pm

re: #23 Archangelus

Yeah, I want to see action on this.

29 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:30:49pm

re: #23 Archangelus

Holy Cr*p! Seriously, how the hell have these sickos not been categorized as terrorists yet? There are hostile organizations operating in the world that have been categorized as such for killing fewer Americans!

I Page the linked report.

30 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:34:51pm

Brat Puppy went to daycare this afternoon and got beat-up by a 4 lb Chihuahua named Chewbacca.

31 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 6:36:18pm

I assume that the republicans are legitimately at a loss. I can imagine them looking and saying:

We have Justice Thomas, we had Michael Steele run the RNC, we had Herman Cain run for President, we had Condi Rice as SoS, we have Tim Scott as a senator and they still won’t take us seriously?!?!

They are so lost that there is no place to even start to tell them where they are wrong.

32 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 6:36:19pm

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

I am sorry, but I can’t help but laugh.

33 klys  Apr 25, 2014 6:36:43pm

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

Brat Puppy went to daycare this afternoon and got beat-up by a 4 lb Chihuahua named Chewbacca.

I guess he learned an important lesson to let the Wookiee win?

34 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:37:44pm

re: #32 The War TARDIS

I am sorry, but I can’t help but laugh.

That’s ok, I laughed too.

Brat Puppy has about 3 brain cells —all geared toward pheasant. That is only because he hasn’t been around a bitch in heat yet.

35 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 6:39:44pm

Haven’t seen this linked here yet.newyorker.com

Republican politicians blasted the Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy on Thursday for making flagrantly racist remarks instead of employing the subtler racial code words the G.O.P. has been using for decades.

“We Republicans have worked long and hard to develop insidious racial code words like ‘entitlement society’ and ‘personal responsibility,’ ” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky). “There is no excuse for offensive racist comments like the ones Cliven Bundy made when there are so many subtler ways of making the exact same point.”

36 DKoch  Apr 25, 2014 6:43:37pm
U.S. Sen. Rand Paul remarked on President Obama’s decision to publicly support same-sex marriage by saying, “Call me cynical, but I wasn’t sure his views on marriage could get any gayer.”

The comments by the Republican lawmaker from Kentucky drew big laughs at a gathering sponsored by the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition. A video became public after it was posted on the website “The Iowa Republican.”

articles.latimes.com

37 b_sharp  Apr 25, 2014 6:43:55pm

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

Brat Puppy went to daycare this afternoon and got beat-up by a 4 lb Chihuahua named Chewbacca.

4 lbs?

Prime cooking weight.

38 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:46:01pm

Betty White!
Youtube Video

39 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 6:46:35pm

re: #37 b_sharp

4 lbs?

Prime cooking weight.

Yep. 20 lbs for babies. //

40 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 6:47:46pm

This is getting some coverage:

OKLAHOMA DISTRICT BIBLE CLASS: SINNERS WILL SUFFER

[…]

The superintendent of Mustang schools, Sean McDaniel, said if the board believed the curriculum crossed a line it wouldn’t have approved the course.

“We’re not asking kids to believe the stories,” McDaniel said. “This is a purely academic endeavor. If it turns into something beyond that, either we will correct it or we will get rid of it.”

[…]

Yeah, it’s not as if school boards have ever done something that “crossed a line”.

This is a blatantly religious-goal project of the Green family.

41 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 6:49:56pm

And your Friday Evening Cult Film Music Clip…. Tonight’s offering is from “Streets of Fire”

Streets of Fire is a 1984 film directed by Walter Hill and co-written by Hill and Larry Gross. It was described in previews, trailers, and posters as “A Rock & Roll Fable”. It is an unusual mix of musical, action, drama, and comedy with elements both of retro-1950s and 1980s. The film stars Michael Paré as a soldier of fortune who returns home to rescue his ex-girlfriend (Diane Lane) who has been kidnapped by Raven (Willem Dafoe). Some of the film was shot on the backlot of Universal Studios in California on two large, elaborate sets covered in a tarp 1,240 feet long by 220 feet wide so that night scenes could be filmed during the day . It grossed 8 million on a production cost of 15 million dollarsWikipedia

It grossed 8 million on a production cost of 15 million dollars. What stands out is the Jim Steinman / Ry Cooter soundtrack. It’s the classic Steinman sound that even I can recognize, and you could just as easily insert Meatloaf or Bonnie Tyler as the singer and it would work just the same.

Enjoy.
Youtube Video

RBS

42 Decatur Deb  Apr 25, 2014 6:50:06pm

re: #12 Lidane

I was born before 1980. I didn’t get one. ;)

Mine uses vacuum tubes.

43 TedStriker  Apr 25, 2014 6:50:36pm

re: #37 b_sharp

4 lbs?

Prime cooking weight.

Watch it, bub… ///

I have two Chihuahuas, one standard and one long-haired, and both of them are rescue dogs with their own personality traits and neuroses.

Wouldn’t trade them.

44 DKoch  Apr 25, 2014 6:51:04pm

Bundy went on CNN this morning and said: “when I say negro, or black boy, or slave, if those people can not take those types of words and not be offended then Martin Luther King hasn’t done his job”

on.msnbc.com

45 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 6:51:32pm

Greetings Lizards! It was a great day of skiing up in the Vail Pass backcountrry today, great spring corn skiing!

And I got to drive this today!

46 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 25, 2014 6:52:06pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

I was speaking specifically about “blacks being better off under slavery”. There are many other manifestations of racism for which ignorance is a perfectly reasonable explanation.

There’s a lot of dark stuff to unpack in the “better off under slavery” thing.

Today it occurred to me that it’s not just about race as justification for slavery, but also about denying all the abuses inherent in the system.

The arbitrary physical violence?

The rapes, and the subsequent chattelage of one’s own children?

The police state invested with the ability to surveil suspected abolitionists, to confiscate and destroy all printed/written abolitionist materials, and detain any suspected sympathizer? The death penalty for abolitionists,,,and/or the collaboration of legal authorities in lynching or extralegal murders?

All of this is handwaved. It’s exaggeration, lies, propaganda.

47 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:52:30pm

Nasty looking teeth!

48 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 6:52:50pm
49 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:53:01pm

re: #37 b_sharp

4 lbs?

Prime cooking weight.

No meat, I wouldn’t bother.

50 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 6:54:33pm

re: #46 The Ghost of a Flea

Bingo.

I’ve come around to the view that revisionist history about the US confederacy is as close as we can get in the US to something like present day Germans trying to whitewash Hitler.

51 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:54:51pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

Greetings Lizards! It was a great day of skiing up in the Vail Pass backcountrry today, great spring corn skiing!

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I get altitude sickness when I get up that high in the world.

52 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 6:57:10pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

Very envious, how cool.

T-shirt and windbreaker weather? Looks like a beautiful day.

53 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 6:57:57pm

Since this last Sunday (4/20) I’ve been noticing a little more pushback to legal ganja in my great home state of Colorado. The Denver Post has ratcheted up the anti-pot letters.

And Fox News is getting in on the act as well.

Heady times in Colorado and Washington these days! Just watch. Whoever runs for president in 2016 should use this issue to their advantage. Hearts and minds are changing rapidly about cannabis.

54 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 6:58:00pm
55 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:00:16pm
56 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:02:20pm
57 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:03:29pm

re: #56 FemNaziBitch

I like to [be]

58 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:04:32pm

PROOF! Chocolate is food:

59 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:05:00pm

re: #41 RealityBasedSteve

And your Friday Evening Cult Film Music Clip…. Tonight’s offering is from “Streets of Fire”

It grossed 8 million on a production cost of 15 million dollars. What stands out is the Jim Steinman / Ry Cooter soundtrack. It’s the classic Steinman sound that even I can recognize, and you could just as easily insert Meatloaf or Bonnie Tyler as the singer and it would work just the same.

Enjoy.

RBS

Upding for the pick. Much of Streets of Fire was filmed in Chicago, with the elevated trains in the movie being part of Chicago’s CTA ‘L’ system. Sing you posted the first song from the movie, I’ll post the last:

Youtube Video

60 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:05:45pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

Clay Aiken, why the hell not?

61 nines09  Apr 25, 2014 7:06:13pm

He left out “ignorant stupid arrogant and mostly old and twisted out of their miniscule minds” white people. But the GOP has so much to offer. So much. Just ask, uh, any Republican. They freed the slaves you know. Now they wonder if that was a mistake, but they freed the slaves.

62 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:07:02pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Since this last Sunday (4/20) I’ve been noticing a little more pushback to legal ganja in my great home state of Colorado. The Denver Post has ratcheted up the anti-pot letters.

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Heady times in Colorado and Washington these days! Just watch. Whoever runs for president in 2016 should use this issue to their advantage. Hearts and minds are changing rapidly about cannabis.

Yes. Because if you drive through Colorado on the interstate you’ll surely collide with a baked Coloradoan and your car will burst into flames and you’ll die. In fact. Everybody out driving in Colorado now is smoking weed.

63 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:07:43pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

64 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 7:08:49pm

re: #56 FemNaziBitch

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Two Bees or Not Two Bees..

RBS

65 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:09:50pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

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Thank you for showing us your trolling Tweet.

66 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:12:18pm

re: #65 Gus

Thank you for showing us your trolling Tweet.

That’s pushback, not trolling.

67 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:12:20pm
After over 3 hours of grilling, North Carolina shill Rep. Renee ‘I Need My Paycheck So Screw You’ Ellmers dished up this little bit of lovely, asking Sec. Sebelius why men had to pay for maternity coverage when they don’t deliver babies.

She summed it up by stating that “we’re forcing them to buy coverage for things they will never need.”

crooksandliars.com

68 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:12:57pm

So like I said, trying a new type of embroidery project.

Man, this goes a whole lot faster than cross stitch.

69 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:13:57pm

re: #60 b.d.

Clay Aiken, why the hell not?

I think he could be a player. If not this time around, then in the future.

70 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:14:38pm

re: #62 Gus

Yes. Because if you drive through Colorado on the interstate you’ll surely collide with a baked Coloradoan and your car will burst into flames and you’ll die. In fact. Everybody out driving in Colorado now is smoking weed.

IIRC, the State coffers are certainly busting at the seams.

71 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:15:26pm

re: #68 klys

So like I said, trying a new type of embroidery project.

Man, this goes a whole lot faster than cross stitch.

My hands hurt just looking at that. :)

I am also very jealous.

72 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:16:10pm
This week, I was proud to submit H.R. 6607 - a bill to name the Century Post Office in Raleigh as the ‘Jesse Helms Federal Building and United States Courthouse’. Senator Helms was an important advocate and representative of North Carolina throughout his 20 years of service in the United States Senate. This bill will ensure that the work he accomplished for the people of North Carolina will live on and invite future generations to learn about the important work he accomplished for our state. - Renee Ellmers

citizenjames72.blogspot.com

Yep, Go Clay Go!

73 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:16:35pm

re: #70 FemNaziBitch

IIRC, the State coffers are certainly busting at the seams.

Guess so. Rather silly to be worried about pot smokers and driving now considering, well, you know, booze.

74 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:17:12pm

re: #72 b.d.

citizenjames72.blogspot.com

Yep, Go Clay Go!

His wiki shows he’s been busy while I wasn’t paying attention.

75 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:17:51pm

re: #73 Gus

Guess so. Rather silly to be worried about pot smokers and driving now considering, well, you know, booze.

I don’t remember having any desire to drive while stoned.

76 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:18:01pm

re: #71 FemNaziBitch

My hands hurt just looking at that.

This really isn’t so bad. The fabric is pretty stiff, and it’s tacked into a wood frame. The needle is also larger than what I normally use for cross stitch (tapestry #22 instead of #28) - that’s yarn there (hand-painted! and one ply).

It’s supposed to be a LOT easier to do while in a car. Cross stitch on linen is virtually impossible, I want something besides crochet to keep my hands occupied.

I think you’d really like the colors on this piece. It’s all browns and greens - appropriate, since this piece is called “Sierras” and is meant to evoke memories of the mountains.

77 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:18:28pm

re: #75 FemNaziBitch

I don’t remember having any desire to drive while stoned.

Most people don’t.

78 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:18:58pm

re: #77 Gus

Most people don’t.

So, you are saying I actually remembered something correctly?

79 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:19:20pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

So, you are saying I actually remembered something correctly?

Stopped clock, blind pig, etc.?

/// ;)

80 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 7:19:44pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

I know you’re rooting for your team here, but really “Go GOP” seems awfully strange after a week in which the neo-confederacy that has been imported into the GOP and movement conservatism as part of the civil rights realignment has rarely been more clear.

81 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:19:57pm

re: #76 klys

This really isn’t so bad. The fabric is pretty stiff, and it’s tacked into a wood frame. The needle is also larger than what I normally use for cross stitch (tapestry #22 instead of #28) - that’s yarn there (hand-painted! and one ply).

It’s supposed to be a LOT easier to do while in a car. Cross stitch on linen is virtually impossible, I want something besides crochet to keep my hands occupied.

I think you’d really like the colors on this piece. It’s all browns and greens - appropriate, since this piece is called “Sierras” and is meant to evoke memories of the mountains.

I just really miss being able to do anything (really) with my hands. Typing is ok, I think because I don’t have to twist and turn my fingers too much. Just trying to sew on a button is a scary thing these days.

82 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:20:27pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

So, you are saying I actually remembered something correctly?

Ayep. Well, at least in that I wouldn’t drive stoned. I assume people who smoke weed are going to get high at home and eventually hit the sack. They’re not going to be driving to work stoned, etc.

83 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:21:02pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

I know you’re rooting for your team here, but really “Go GOP” seems awfully strange after a week in which the neo-confederacy that has been imported into the GOP and movement conservatism as part of the civil rights realignment has rarely been more clear.

There comes a time when a person must realize their “team” isn’t what they think it is anymore.

I came late to the game —well you all know the date.

84 Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2014 7:21:03pm
85 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:21:19pm

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

I just really miss being able to do anything (really) with my hands. Typing is ok, I think because I don’t have to twist and turn my fingers too much. Just trying to sew on a button is a scary thing these days.

If I do lose the ability to use my hands I think I will go mad. {{ggt}}

86 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:21:21pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

Remembering that you didn’t want to, like, do stuff while stoned is a great accomplishment.

:P

You should reward yourself somehow.
It is the weekend after all.

87 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:22:16pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

That’s pushback, not trolling.

Don’t really care if you Tweeted that. Just saying it’s trolling. What difference does it make that she Tweets that? It’s fine for you to support the GOP. Just saying that you barged in and Tweeted to her, and two other people out of the blue. That’s considered trolling.

88 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 7:22:44pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

Not to mention what a horrible person the candidate he’s rooting for is. At least read up on who you’re cheering for, FFS.

89 Gus  Apr 25, 2014 7:23:20pm

re: #87 Gus

Don’t really care if you Tweeted that. Just saying it’s trolling. What difference does it make that she Tweets that? It’s fine for you to support the GOP. Just saying that you barged in and Tweeted to her, and two other people out of the blue. That’s considered trolling.

Or rather than doing that send out your own positive Tweets about a candidate you support.

90 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:23:35pm

re: #85 klys

If I do lose the ability to use my hands I think I will go mad. {{ggt}}

I thought that too until it became difficult to walk on some days.

I never thought I’d choose my legs over my hands, but now I’m glad.

I still have photoshop.

91 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:23:55pm

re: #86 b.d.

Remembering that you didn’t want to, like, do stuff while stoned is a great accomplishment.

:P

You should reward yourself somehow.
It is the weekend after all.

:(

92 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:24:02pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

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Your kneejerk GOP cheerleading is sadly expected. Rene Ellemers is a bigoted greasy piece of trash who opposes marriage equality, a fundy who believes life (and hence personhood) begins at conception, and she voted against reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.

Your thoughtless, impenetrable gang mentality is just the most depressing, pathetic thing ever.

93 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 7:24:09pm

re: #88 A Mom Anon

Not to mention what a horrible person the candidate he’s rooting for is. At least read up on who you’re cheering for, FFS.

Please share. I did a quick check but wasn’t able to find anything juicy.

94 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:24:31pm

re: #88 A Mom Anon

I bet he voted for Ruben Studdard too!

//

95 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:24:35pm

re: #90 FemNaziBitch

I thought that too until it became difficult to walk on some days.

I never thought I’d choose my legs over my hands, but now I’m glad.

I still have photoshop.

I tweeted you a link so you can at least see some of the colors stuff she does.

With how fast this is going, if there was one that really spoke to you, it could possibly be made to happen.

96 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:26:29pm

re: #91 FemNaziBitch

Sorry if that came out wrong FemNaziBitch. I have a vendor based out of Denver and it seems that as of the turn of the year they haven’t been able to find their ass with both hands. I know it is a coincidence but still……

97 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:28:13pm

re: #96 b.d.

Sorry if that came out wrong FemNaziBitch. I have a vendor based out of Denver and it seems that as of the turn of the year they haven’t been able to find their ass with both hands. I know it is a coincidence but still……

No, just wishing I could reward myself with something. But, I’m old and I live in Illinois.

98 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 7:28:14pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

rightwingwatch.org

99 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:28:19pm

re: #88 A Mom Anon

Not to mention what a horrible person the candidate he’s rooting for is. At least read up on who you’re cheering for, FFS.

On top of everything else she’s one of those colossal idiots who thought the Fed could just prioritize payments in the event the debt ceiling was reached and everything would be just fine.

100 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 7:29:36pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

I know you’re rooting for your team here, but really “Go GOP” seems awfully strange after a week in which the neo-confederacy that has been imported into the GOP and movement conservatism as part of the civil rights realignment has rarely been more clear.

Seriously. For anyone who’s a Republican and not a complete batshit Neo-Confederate loon, all this Bundy Ranch shit should be a serious gut check. Do you really want to keep cheering for this team when they’re determined to start another Civil War and they’ll use any pretense to do it?

For fuck’s sake, the militia snipers that we saw photographed aiming at the BLM were bragging about having several federal officers in their line of sight. They’re all part of this Posse Comitatus, white supremacist bullshit and they’ve been openly supported and cheered on by the RW blogs, Fox News, several elected officials with an (R) after their name and most of the talk radio loons. What more does it take for someone to finally realize that the Republican party is completely insane?

101 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:29:44pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

Please share. I did a quick check but wasn’t able to find anything juicy.

On the Issues is a good site. They’re non-partisan and simply lay out state policy, votes, and NGO ratings.

102 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:30:37pm

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

No, just wishing I could reward myself with something. But, I’m old and I live in Illinois.

Cheese curds? I live in Texas and wish I could have access to some upper midwest cheese curds or an Italian beef sandwich.

Damn! I want an Italian beef sandwich!

103 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 7:31:48pm

That Maddow clip downstairs was kind of disturbing. We’re still living with the consequences of The Civil War and Reconstruction many many generations later.

104 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 7:31:52pm

re: #100 Lidane

Seriously. For anyone who’s a Republican and not a complete batshit Neo-Confederate loon, all this Bundy Ranch shit should be a serious gut check.

I’m surprised that some GOP candidates didn’t right away have a “Cousin Cliven Moment” to make themselves stand out from the crowd.

105 Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2014 7:32:35pm

re: #36 DKoch

a gathering sponsored by the Iowa Faith and Freedom Power Coalition

Man, I wish those people would be honest about their goals.

106 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:33:36pm
Rene Ellmers on Abortion

Life and human rights begin at fertilization or cloning. (Jan 2013)

Basically, if you believe this, then every fertility clinic in America is perpetuating the mass slaughter of innocents.

It’s clinical fucking insanity.

107 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 7:33:37pm

re: #98 A Mom Anon

rightwingwatch.org

Thanks for the link. One telling note:

Ellmers believes that Obama put the country at risk because he supposedly refuses “to recognize - and tell the American people - [that] he understands radical Islamic terrorism does exist.” She then launched an ugly and bigoted campaign ad equating all Muslims with the 9/11 terrorists, and arguing that the Islamic Community Center in Lower Manhattan is a “Victory Mosque” and a symbol of Muslim conquest:

Narrator: “After the Muslims conquered Jerusalem, and Cordoba and Constantinople, they built victory mosques. And now, they want to build a mosque near Ground Zero. Where does Bob Etheridge stand? He won’t say, won’t speak out, won’t take a stand.”

Ellmers: “The terrorists haven’t won, and we should tell them in plain English, ‘No, there will never be a mosque at Ground Zero.’”

In an interview with Anderson Cooper, she suggested that Obama’s foreign policy subtly shows support for terrorists by using foreign aid to build mosques. Cooper, however, pointed out that she was referring to a program started by President Bush that helps rebuild houses of worships including churches and temples. When he asked if the Roman Catholic Church built a “Victory Church” in Rome over a Pagan temple, she took umbrage and asked Cooper if he was “anti-religion” or “anti-Christian.” Cooper replied: “That’s like the lowest response I have ever heard from a candidate, I have got to tell you.”

Ending up on the side of raving bigots is an occupational hazard of supporting GOP elected officials and candidates these days.

108 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:35:14pm

re: #102 b.d.

Cheese curds? I live in Texas and wish I could have access to some upper midwest cheese curds or an Italian beef sandwich.

Damn! I want an Italian beef sandwich!

*blech*

No, right now I’d be happy with to be headache free for an hour.

109 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:36:12pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

Renee Ellmers on Environment

•Stop considering manure as pollutant or hazardous. (Sep 2011)

ontheissues.org

Maybe it was in the downstairs thread so I paraphrase:

There is nothing worse than a pig farm/

110 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:36:25pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

You can go fuck yourself.

111 Belafon  Apr 25, 2014 7:36:39pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

It’s been beneficial to whites for 200 years to go with the racism. It’s not easy to convince people to give up benefits like that, even if you can see that it’s actually hurting them, or that it should be going against their core religious beliefs of not hurting others.

112 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:36:48pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

That Maddow clip downstairs was kind of disturbing. We’re still living with the consequences of The Civil War and Reconstruction many many generations later.

Today Maddow profiled the release of the Squeeky Fromme tapes. Yesterday she profiled Gordon Kahl, who I’m related to, and today Fromme, who was a high school classmate of my Mom.

I’m like the Kevin Bacon of fucked up weirdos.

113 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:37:42pm

re: #107 EPR-radar

I am so freakin’ tired of the “muslims are going to take over the world” BS.

First, it is one sect the Wahabbi’s and second of all it’s not all of them.

THIRD, it’s not a matter of one religion over another —no zero-sum game here.

Fundamentalism of one flavor does not trump fundamentalism of another.

It’s FUNDAMENTALISM that is the problem. Whether it is religious or non-religious.

114 freetoken  Apr 25, 2014 7:38:01pm

Since this is DNA Day and we’re talking about “it’s all white people”, many of those southern self-identifying “white” folk would show up as having small amounts of definitely non-white recent ancestry, if they bothered to take a DNA test.

And, if any Republican was truly insightful, they’d realize that a big problem is that the average GOPer is now getting older than not only the other party but also the self-identifying “independents”.

The inability to connect with the next generation, on more than just a fad level, is telling.

115 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:39:11pm

re: #109 b.d.

Maybe it was in the downstairs thread so I paraphrase:

There is nothing worse than a pig farm/

SKUNK!

116 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:39:31pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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Bill Maher also had Ward Churchill on ‘Real time’ once. This is another of that type of “controversial figure invites”.

117 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:39:32pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

You can go fuck yourself.

More sad predictability. How about you come up with a compelling reason for why you still belong to such a deeply pathological political party?

118 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:41:14pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

More sad predictability. How about you come up with a compelling reason for why you still belong to such a deeply pathological political party?

GUNZ, gunz and moar GUNZ.

119 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:42:45pm

re: #118 FemNaziBitch

GUNZ, gunz and moar GUNZ.

Dark doesn’t own any guns. I own over two dozen.

He’s just ganged in, misplaced family loyalty. Pathetic.

120 TedStriker  Apr 25, 2014 7:43:33pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

Today Maddow profiled the release of the Squeeky Fromme tapes. Yesterday she profiled Gordon Kahl, who I’m related to, and today Fromme, who was a high school classmate of my Mom.

I’m like the Kevin Bacon of fucked up weirdos.

Ain’t that nice?

///

121 Belafon  Apr 25, 2014 7:43:35pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

He hasn’t finished Atlas Shrugged yet.

122 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:43:37pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

I’m not going to explain myself to someone who just insulted me.

123 A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2014 7:44:22pm

re: #107 EPR-radar

What makes me sad is that decent people at heart, like DF, are so certain that Democrats are awful and terrible that the will continue to vote for GOP candidates even if it means the world burns. I don’t get it. I would vote GOP if there were honest and viable candidates that would get shit done. But that ship sailed. Now it’s only about pissing off liberals and “winning”. What they’re winning with this sort of shitty politics is beyond me. It’s just making things more divisive and causing more destruction.

I am proudly liberal. I love my country. I am a Patriot. I also love my country enough to be critical when things are wrong and see room for improvement. I think that government has a job to do, and it’s too damned important to treat like a game. We’re supposed to be Americans, being part of a community and helping each other and working together. Republicans consistently show no signs of wanting to do that. Whenever they rarely do that the far right scares them back into submission.

124 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:44:47pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

Dark doesn’t own any guns. I own over two dozen.

He’s just ganged in, misplaced family loyalty. Pathetic.

I quit trying to figure it out.

I’m surrounded by the gunz, gunz and moar gunz type.

I’m so freaking tired of the NRA brainwashing. Americans aren’t’ going to give-up their guns, Republican, Democrat, Independent, or non-voter.

125 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:44:48pm

You folks realize, in a non-round about way, that you are arguing over Clay F*cking Aiken?

126 Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2014 7:45:31pm
127 Belafon  Apr 25, 2014 7:46:14pm

re: #125 b.d.

I don’t really care who Clay fucks.

128 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 7:46:20pm

Maybe some folks in here could use some of that Colorado sticky icky!
AK Thunder Fuck

129 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:46:25pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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Whackos WANT TO BELIEVE and it makes for good ratings.

130 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 7:46:59pm

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

SKUNK!

There’s a very entertaining chemistry blog I found recently that considers “things I won’t work on”. The main categories are things that are ridiculously explosive, things that are ridiculously toxic and things that are ridiculously malodorous.

A small writing sample:

But today’s compound makes no noise and leaves no wreckage. It merely stinks. But it does so relentlessly and unbearably. It makes innocent downwind pedestrians stagger, clutch their stomachs, and flee in terror. It reeks to a degree that makes people suspect evil supernatural forces. It is thioacetone.

Or something close to it, anyway. All we know for sure is that thioacetone doesn’t like to exist as a free compound - it’s usually tied up in a cyclic thioketal trimer, when it’s around at all. Attempts to crack this to thioacetone monomer itself have been made - ah, but that’s when people start diving out of windows and vomiting into wastebaskets, so the quality of the data starts to deteriorate. No one’s quite sure what the actual odorant is (perhaps the gem-dimercaptan?) And no one seems to have much desire to find out, either.

There are sound historical reasons for this reluctance. The canonical example (Chemische Berichte 1889, 2593) is the early work in the German city of Freiburg in 1889 (see page 4 of this textbook), which quotes the first-hand report. This reaction produced”an offensive smell which spread rapidly over a great area of the town causing fainting, vomiting and a panic evacuation.”. An 1890 report from the Whitehall Soap Works in Leeds refers to the odor as “fearful”, and if you could smell anything through the ambient conditions in a Leeds soap factory in 1890, it must have been.

pipeline.corante.com

131 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:47:07pm

Dark, I think you are a good person. And I appreciate that by you posting here, you are somewhat aware of what’s going on in the world around us and politics in general.

Which makes it that much harder to understand how you can interact with people like me (and presumably see me as human), and yet still cheer on folks who would flat out deny me the right to make my own decisions about my body. For example. Or deny some of our gay/lesbian Lizards the right to marry someone they love.

I think that’s the cognitive dissonance a lot of us find hard to understand, and your tweet (which you posted) highlighted just how much PARTY FIRST matters to you over the very real impact these people can have on some of our lives.

Just wanted to give you some food for thought.

132 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:47:12pm

re: #125 b.d.

You folks realize, in a non-round about way, that you are arguing over Clay F*cking Aiken?

Actually. we were arguing about the person he’s running against.

133 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:48:02pm

re: #124 FemNaziBitch

I quit trying to figure it out.

I’m surrounded by the gunz, gunz and moar gunz type.

I’m so freaking tired of the NRA brainwashing. Americans aren’t’ going to give-up their guns, Republican, Democrat, Independent, or non-voter.

It’s true, I don’t want to give up my guns. I do think that at the very least all handguns should be registered under the NFA though, requiring an expensive tax stamp to transfer.

134 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:48:06pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

I did an internship at International Flavors and Fragrances in high school, and then worked there my freshman summer.

Some of the stuff that went through the lab, you wouldn’t believe.

135 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:48:14pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

There’s a very entertaining chemistry blog I found recently that considers “things I won’t work on”. The main categories are things that are ridiculously explosive, things that are ridiculously toxic and things that are ridiculously malodorous.

A small writing sample:

pipeline.corante.com

did you read that I have a headache? LOL

Seriously, it seems very interesting, but I cannot concentrate with the depth required.

136 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:50:24pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

It’s true, I don’t want to give up my guns. I do think that at the very least all handguns should be registered under the NFA though, requiring an expensive tax stamp to transfer.

I mostly have issues with the money involved. Too much fucking money for anything to be civil or sensical.

like the War on Drugs.

137 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 7:50:34pm

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

did you read that I have a headache? LOL

Seriously, it seems very interesting, but I cannot concentrate with the depth required.

I know nothing about the chemistry. I just enjoy the writing and marvel that things like FOOF exist.

138 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:50:48pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

To paraphrase Paul Krugman; Bill Maher is republican’s idea of what a liberal person sounds like.

139 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 7:50:49pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

Maybe some folks in here could use some of that Colorado sticky icky!
AK Thunder Fuck

Is it wrong that it’s been years since I used pot and my response to that was absolutely pavlovian?

140 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 7:51:29pm
141 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 7:51:49pm

re: #132 Dark_Falcon

Actually. we were arguing about the person he’s running against.

In 20 years no one will remember who President Clay Aiken beat to earn his House seat.

..

142 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:51:53pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

Is it wrong that it’s been years since I used pot and my response to that was absolutely pavlovian?

No skunk weed!

with that I have to try to sleep.

have a great evening all

143 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:52:01pm

I won’t lie.

Pot smells about as appealing as a skunk to me. On a VERY visceral level.

I will never, ever smoke it. I can’t stand to be around it. I make no value judgement regarding its use or lack thereof, but I want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

144 jaunte  Apr 25, 2014 7:52:14pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

All we know for sure is that thioacetone doesn’t like to exist as a free compound - it’s usually tied up in a cyclic thioketal trimer, when it’s around at all.

So that’s what’s wafting around outside. I suspect a possum curled up and died under my deck in the back yard yesterday, in a place where I can’t get to it.

145 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 7:52:19pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

Is it wrong that it’s been years since I used pot and my response to that was absolutely pavlovian?

I had a friend in Crested Butte that came up with his own strain, he called it “Drool Bucket.” *snark*

146 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2014 7:52:33pm

re: #143 klys

I won’t lie.

Pot smells about as appealing as a skunk to me. On a VERY visceral level.

I will never, ever smoke it. I can’t stand to be around it. I make no value judgement regarding its use or lack thereof, but I want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

oooh, I love the smell.

Then again, I’ve smoked it. :)

nytol

147 jaunte  Apr 25, 2014 7:53:34pm

re: #146 FemNaziBitch

It smells better than dead possum, for sure.

148 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 25, 2014 7:53:48pm

149 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 7:55:09pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

There’s a strain called cherry pie. It has an unusual taste, or so I’ve heard.

Cherrie Pie

150 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 7:55:21pm

re: #143 klys

I won’t lie.

Pot smells about as appealing as a skunk to me. On a VERY visceral level.

I will never, ever smoke it. I can’t stand to be around it. I make no value judgement regarding its use or lack thereof, but I want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Edible cannabis! You don’t have to smoke it, you know.

151 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:55:34pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

Thanks, but no thanks. I don’t plan on voluntarily inhaling smoke, as I value my lungs.

152 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 7:56:22pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, but no thanks. I don’t plan on voluntarily inhaling smoke, as I value my lungs.

See Comment #150.

153 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 7:58:24pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

See Comment #150.

Still, no thank you.

154 klys  Apr 25, 2014 7:58:42pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

Edible cannabis! You don’t have to smoke it, you know.

Nah, I have my drug of choice already.

155 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 7:59:57pm

re: #154 klys

Nah, I have my drug of choice already.

My husband is pouring me a glass of my drug of choice right now! In this case, a nice Zin.

156 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 8:01:06pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

Edible cannabis! You don’t have to smoke it, you know.

you really have to plan on doing nothing if you eat it, it can get intense.

157 klys  Apr 25, 2014 8:01:07pm

re: #155 calochortus

My husband is pouring me a glass of my drug of choice right now! In this case, a nice Zin.

Did you see the new project? You should scroll upthread if no.

All the counting was done before the drink.

158 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 8:01:12pm

This next bit just need to be said:

Celebrity Quack Moms Are a Terrible Influence on Everyday Parents

On April 15, the actress Alicia Silverstone released a book called The Kind Mama: A Simple Guide to Supercharged Fertility, a Radiant Pregnancy, a Sweeter Birth, and a Healthier, More Beautiful Beginning. It’s chock-full of attachment parenting lessons and dangerous misinformation. The Daily Beast compiled some of the book’s more outrageous claims. These include the notion that postpartum depression is caused by eating processed sugars, that allowing your baby to sleep in its own crib is neglectful, that the diaper industry is “fueled by corporate-backed pseudoscience,” and most troubling, that some children are “never the same” after they get vaccines.

SNIP

But as any critical reader of celebrity coverage knows, stars are not just like us. They are better-looking and have more money, time, and support. Which is why it’s so aggravating that they are promoting attachment parenting techniques that are inaccessible to most working parents. When Silverstone tells other mothers that they are borderline monsters if they don’t let their kids sleep in a family bed, not only is she not considering the latest scientific evidence on co-sleeping, she’s also telling working parents who desperately need a good night sleep that they’re not doing right by their children.

Same goes for elimination communication, otherwise known as potty training your kid before he can even sit up on his own. Both Silverstone and Bialik push EC in their books, and because they have the money and the help to watch their kid 24/7, that method of potty training worked for them. If you try telling your local day care that your 6-month-old goes diaper-free, they will probably laugh so hard tears form in their eyes before they chuck you out the door.

Most of these things are just silly, not dangerous. But even the dangerous ones—like the anti-vaccine thing—are a product of the blithe privilege of the wealthy celebrity mom. As Lindy West puts it in Jezebel, “Spreading hysterical misinformation about vaccines (even if you’re just criticizing vax schedules and not shilling a direct vaccine-to-autism connection) might not seem like a big deal to families that can afford high-quality out-of-pocket medical care, but it is a very big, life-and-death deal to the low-income and immunocompromised.”

159 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 8:03:53pm

re: #157 klys

I did. It looks nice-and it will be way easier to do while traveling than counted cross stitch.

I’m gearing up for some surface embroidery, but as always, working out the design is a slow, slow, slow process for me. I do have a cotton/linen table runner on the loom though.

160 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 8:04:39pm

re: #123 A Mom Anon

What makes me sad is that decent people at heart, like DF, are so certain that Democrats are awful and terrible that the will continue to vote for GOP candidates even if it means the world burns. I don’t get it. I would vote GOP if there were honest and viable candidates that would get shit done. But that ship sailed. Now it’s only about pissing off liberals and “winning”. What they’re winning with this sort of shitty politics is beyond me. It’s just making things more divisive and causing more destruction.

I am proudly liberal. I love my country. I am a Patriot. I also love my country enough to be critical when things are wrong and see room for improvement. I think that government has a job to do, and it’s too damned important to treat like a game. We’re supposed to be Americans, being part of a community and helping each other and working together. Republicans consistently show no signs of wanting to do that. Whenever they rarely do that the far right scares them back into submission.

For me it is about following the evidence. Over time, and as GOP positions became more extreme, it became clear that the GOP really is pretty much as awful as its critics say it is —- i.e., it stands for plutocracy and runs on all kinds of BS culture war crap to distract from that. Furthermore, it is infected with racism and neo-confederacy as a result of the civil rights realignment.

So I stopped voting GOP.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are heavily compromised and are also too corporate. But the Democrats are hardly the socialist/communist boogiemen of RW propaganda. It’s just laughable.

Should these basic fact patterns change, I’ll reconsider my present habit of voting always and exclusively (D).

161 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 8:06:56pm

re: #143 klys

Pot smells about as appealing as a skunk to me. On a VERY visceral level.

My last dog got skunked, twice, before I learned not to let her out when she was positively crazy to go out. There’s definitely a difference. Pot is skunky, but mixed with a ton of evergreen pine tree. Real skunk smell, up in your face after your dog has charged back in and rolled around on your pillows, is different. It has some kind of fucked up unidentifiable animal hormone component.

162 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 8:07:27pm

re: #156 Single-handed sailor

you really have to plan on doing nothing to eat it, it can get intense.

The edibles thing in Colorado is kind of an elephant in the room. We’ve already had a couple of deaths that were (allegedly) attributed to edible cannabis intoxication. And there really is no standard when it comes to purity. The Colorado legislature is working on new laws and standards for edibles as we speak. But this is all so new that I think it’ll be years before we see any kind of standards for edibles.

The Denver Post’s all-weed website is pretty comprehensive in this matter.

163 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 8:07:32pm

re: #155 calochortus

My husband is pouring me a glass of my drug of choice right now! In this case, a nice Zin.

Enjoy! I had a nice Bordeaux with some lamb chops this evening, it was tasty.

164 klys  Apr 25, 2014 8:08:17pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

My last dog got skunked, twice, before I learned not to let her out when she was positively crazy to go out. There’s definitely a difference. Pot is skunky, but mixed with a ton of evergreen pine tree. Real skunk smell, up in your face after your dog has charged back in and rolled around on your pillows, is different. It has some kind of fucked up unidentifiable animal hormone component.

You all can laugh at me, but I didn’t actually know what pot smelled like for sure until this past year.

When I finally IDed that that was what that absolutely noxious smell I occasionally encounter on public transit was, thanks to being able to ask the husband.

It’s not that I didn’t know people who smoked it, it’s just that they never did it around me…

165 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 8:08:26pm
166 EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2014 8:09:37pm

re: #164 klys

Hell, I probably still can’t identify pot smoke except by context —- e.g., smoke that smells very different from cigarette/cigar/pipe smoke.

167 Dark_Falcon  Apr 25, 2014 8:10:10pm

And the Chicago Blackhawks pull it off in overtime, downing the Saint Louis Blues 3-2 to take a lead of the same number in their best-of-7 series.

168 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 8:10:13pm

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169 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 8:10:13pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

My last dog got skunked, twice, before I learned not to let her out when she was positively crazy to go out. There’s definitely a difference. Pot is skunky, but mixed with a ton of evergreen pine tree. Real skunk smell, up in your face after your dog has charged back in and rolled around on your pillows, is different. It has some kind of fucked up unidentifiable animal hormone component.

We keep cans of tomato juice on had for skunked dogs, they get immediate shower and tomato juice shampoo followed by dog shampoo, even then they smell for at least a year after skunking.

170 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 8:10:29pm

Speaking of weed, and munchies…

171 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 8:10:42pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

There has been money to be made by making moms feel inadequate for over a century. Before that, it was just a popular amateur sport.

Dr. Spock’s great contribution wasn’t, as many people think, “permissive parenting”, but more practical advice that kids are pretty resilient and parents shouldn’t worry about every little thing. And that’s a good thing.

172 Amory Blaine  Apr 25, 2014 8:12:59pm

Moderation is good. Maybe now that more people have access to mental health services the bad stigma to get help will go down. Reducing peoples effort to self medicate.

173 calochortus  Apr 25, 2014 8:13:53pm

re: #169 Single-handed sailor

We keep cans of tomato juice on had for skunked dogs, they get immediate shower and tomato juice shampoo followed by dog shampoo, even then they smell for at least a year after shunking.

It seems to me the Mythbusters tested tomato juice and found it ineffective.

174 Belafon  Apr 25, 2014 8:16:13pm

re: #173 calochortus

It wasn’t great, but this shows what they found: discovery.com.

175 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 8:16:20pm

re: #164 klys

You all can laugh at me, but I didn’t actually know what pot smelled like for sure until this past year.

When I finally IDed that that was what that absolutely noxious smell I occasionally encounter on public transit was, thanks to being able to ask the husband.

It’s not that I didn’t know people who smoked it, it’s just that they never did it around me…

Pot and pot smoke also have differences. Dirty old bong water, burnt resin and mold all contribute to what a lot of never-users identify as “pot smell.” Also people who light up in public aren’t always the most diligent types when it comes to person hygiene. Fresh weed is different, not vastly different, but different. THC mixed properly in a lipid / fat like butter shouldn’t really be detectable in most recipes.

176 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 8:18:28pm

Apply the pressure!!!

Youtube Video

177 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 8:19:35pm

re: #169 Single-handed sailor

We keep cans of tomato juice on had for skunked dogs, they get immediate shower and tomato juice shampoo followed by dog shampoo, even then they smell for at least a year after shunking.

I remember many many years ago, I was living and working in rural NE Missouri. Car was a great old Olds Cutlass, and it was a beautiful summer evening, windows down on a late night drive.

Going down a dark country road I noticed that there was something ‘shambling’ along the road, and too my horror I realized that it was a SKUNK. I swerved to miss it, and THUNK!

His last act, totally empty that scent gland onto the front wheel of my car. It was ‘intense’

RBS

178 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 8:20:42pm

re: #177 RealityBasedSteve

I remember many many years ago, I was living and working in rural NE Missouri. Car was a great old Olds Cutlass, and it was a beautiful summer evening, windows down on a late night drive.

Going down a dark country road I noticed that there was something ‘shambling’ along the road, and too my horror I realized that it was a SKUNK. I swerved to miss it, and THUNK!

His last act, totally empty that scent gland onto the front wheel of my car. It was ‘intense’

RBS

I always wondered about those dead skunks in the road and who hit them, thanks. LOL

179 goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2014 8:21:25pm

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

Quit pulling my leg and baiting me like cod
My name ain’t Craig and I ain’t lost my job.

I fucking love that song.

180 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2014 8:23:30pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

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Armored glass stores in high crime areas are nothing new. I knew of at least two in Pittsburgh back in the late 80s. Built due to robbery issues. How does that fit the desired narrative?

181 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 8:24:58pm

Anyone care to comment on the new Twitter?

182 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 8:27:22pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

That’s pushback, not trolling.

If you think your tweet was “pushback”, you don’t know Twitter. You have no impact on Twitter if you stay in G-rated mode. If you want anyone to pay attention, you need to go full retard on Twitter. Remember you’ve only got 140 characters. And YOUR tweet will be forgotten, just like millions of others each day, unless it says something over the top.

183 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 8:29:22pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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I don’t know. He was on Colbert about 6 months ago. He’s America’s most respected racist intellectual. I guess that still counts for something, especially with extreme libertarians and publications like NRO.

184 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 8:32:35pm
….

Atari Dig

Crews begin digging at the old Alamogordo, N.M., landfill on Friday April 25, 2014, to search for copies of the Atari game “E.T. The Extraterrestrial” purportedly buried there in the 1980s. The game is considered among gamers to be one of the worst ever and is believed to have contributed to the demise of Atari.

Hidden for three decades in a landfill deep in the New Mexico desert lie thousands of Atari cartridges from what is widely believed to be worst video game ever made — or so the urban legend goes.

“Bottom line, this is just trash. But there is a legend in it, we want to unlock that legend, that mystery,” a spokeswoman for the public relations firm working on behalf of Xbox Entertainment Studios, one of the companies developing the film. The documentary is expected to be released later this year on Microsoft’s Xbox game consoles.

Future folks: This is so bad that we better hang on to it.

185 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 8:35:35pm

re: #184 b.d.

They are digging for shit.

186 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 8:37:58pm

re: #185 The War TARDIS

They are digging for shit.

Next up: The search for Jar Jar Bink’s original digital code

187 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 8:39:23pm

re: #149 Single-handed sailor

There’s a strain called cherry pie. It has an unusual taste, or so I’ve heard.

Cherrie Pie

It’s good stuff, tried it a couple of times. A near 50-50 hybrid of sativa and indica, so you get some of the best of both worlds. Not too powerful, but definitely gets the job done. Lots of those little brown filaments are usually a good sign.

If you’ve got some, enjoy! Try vaping instead of smoking, easier on the lungs.

188 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 8:45:15pm

re: #184 b.d.

I just watched a YouTube of ET the video game. What a stinker!

189 The Awkward Guy  Apr 25, 2014 8:46:24pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

I just watched a YouTube of ET the video game. What a stinker!

I actually beat it.

190 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 8:46:36pm

re: #187 palomino

I have to confess, I have heard of people with Autism using MJ as a relaxant, and it is tempting.

191 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 8:48:47pm

Hot Wingnut On Wingnut Action! ™

192 jaunte  Apr 25, 2014 8:49:44pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

I almost didn’t recognize him with the ears.

193 b.d.  Apr 25, 2014 8:55:27pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

I just watched a YouTube of ET the video game. What a stinker!

Youtube Video

Hahahaha, they really need to keep them buried.

194 Ming  Apr 25, 2014 9:04:15pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

The GOP will accept any votes in its favor, even from minorities etc., but will make no effort at all to deal with its massive bigotry problem.

So I suppose it’s technically true that there are no “Whites only” signs at the door, but that really doesn’t count for very much these days.

Yes. The GOP wants minority votes, and it also wants the votes of white bigots. You’d think there’s a trivially-easy moral decision here, but to today’s GOP, this is a very complex and sophisticated tradeoff.

And “complex and sophisticated” is what we’ll see in the upcoming elections: the GOP will market their party very differently in some areas (e.g. New Hampshire) than others (e.g. the Deep South). We’re talking Big Data here: lots of internal variables about racial attitudes to keep track of, from one jurisdiction to the next.

195 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 9:04:17pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

You can go fuck yourself.

goddamn actually made an argument, even if it wasn’t nice.

All you did was hurl an insult as a response.

196 klys  Apr 25, 2014 9:09:30pm

Continuing to stitch, we now have:

FORWARD!

197 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 9:10:17pm

re: #143 klys

I won’t lie.

Pot smells about as appealing as a skunk to me. On a VERY visceral level.

I will never, ever smoke it. I can’t stand to be around it. I make no value judgement regarding its use or lack thereof, but I want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Almost a third of all dispensary sales in Cali now are edibles—cookies, brownies, candy bars, lollipops, etc. There’s no smell whatsoever. The effects come on more slowly, as one would expect. But overall it still gets the job done. And again, easier on the lungs. Don’t knock it before you try it.

198 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 9:11:58pm

For some reason, this isn’t coming up:

re: #464 RealityBasedSteve

CD Burner XP Fast, Free, Reliable. It’s what I use.

RBS

199 DKoch  Apr 25, 2014 9:14:22pm

“You go to a Republican event and it’s all white people—not because we’re excluding anybody,” ~ Aqua Buddha

Nooooooo… of course not. Where would anyone get the idea that the GOP is exclusionary?

200 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 9:14:44pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, but no thanks. I don’t plan on voluntarily inhaling smoke, as I value my lungs.

You don’t have to smoke it. You can eat pot and get the same effect. Since you’re a newbie, you won’t even know the difference. Live a little, try something new and different.

201 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 9:15:04pm

Since there’s a fair amount of cannabis discussion, how about you waste 5 seconds on this drivel.

Youtube Video

202 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 9:19:27pm

re: #198 The War TARDIS

For some reason, this isn’t coming up:

works for me.

203 klys  Apr 25, 2014 9:19:46pm

re: #197 palomino

Almost a third of all dispensary sales in Cali now are edibles—cookies, brownies, candy bars, lollipops, etc. There’s no smell whatsoever. The effects come on more slowly, as one would expect. But overall it still gets the job done. And again, easier on the lungs. Don’t knock it before you try it.

I have no issues with anyone else doing it, as long as they aren’t doing so in a manner that could harm someone else.

But I’m not terribly interested. Like I said above, I already have my drug of choice.

204 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 9:20:21pm

re: #198 The War TARDIS

For some reason, this isn’t coming up:

Weird. It seems to work when I click it. cdburnerxp.se is the top of the site. Or google CD burner XP. Can’t understand why it’s not working.

RBS

205 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 9:21:43pm

re: #190 The War TARDIS

I have to confess, I have heard of people with Autism using MJ as a relaxant, and it is tempting.

Unless your state’s laws are still draconian on pot, give it a try.

No one ever dies or goes permanently psycho from weed. Those are the stereotypes of the Dragnet generation, which knew nothing more about weed than the Reefer Madness generation before them.

Worst that’s likely to happen is some paranoia, which fades away after a little while.

206 Killgore Trout  Apr 25, 2014 9:30:14pm

re: #205 palomino

Unless your state’s laws are still draconian on pot, give it a try.

No one ever dies or goes permanently psycho from weed. Those are the stereotypes of the Dragnet generation, which knew nothing more about weed than the Reefer Madness generation before them.

Worst that’s likely to happen is some paranoia, which fades away after a little while.

He should probably talk to his doctor about it first

207 Ming  Apr 25, 2014 9:32:45pm

re: #197 palomino

Almost a third of all dispensary sales in Cali now are edibles—cookies, brownies, candy bars, lollipops, etc. There’s no smell whatsoever. The effects come on more slowly, as one would expect. But overall it still gets the job done. And again, easier on the lungs. Don’t knock it before you try it.

Here, here! I must assume that smoking anything is bad for you. The lungs are not digestive organs. Most of us get way too much air pollution anyway. It’s hard to think of a worse thing than smoking for your health, unless you stand in front of a speeding train.

I assume that eating it is much, much healthier. This is an easy assumption to make, but it would be nice to have some hard data. Of course, we don’t have much if any of that, because the DEA (or Congress? or the Obama Administration?) continues to classify pot as “Schedule 1”, which is considered so dangerous that it’s illegal to even do medical research on it.

208 teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2014 9:40:20pm

re: #207 Ming

continues to classify pot as “Schedule 1”, which is considered so dangerous that it’s illegal to even do medical research on it.

Alcohol isn’t scheduled. Cannabis shouldn’t be either. Maybe that’ll be an Obama October Surprise in 2016, he’ll just remove cannabis from scheduled substances, right before the election, right before he leaves office.

Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

209 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 9:41:58pm

re: #202 Single-handed sailor

Not for me. Using Chrome.

210 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 9:52:01pm

Killed the thread.

211 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 9:56:29pm

re: #209 The War TARDIS

so am I. What happens when you go directly to the site? or google “CD Burner XP”? I’m really curious as to what’s going on for you.

RBS

212 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 9:56:54pm

re: #209 The War TARDIS

Not for me. Using Chrome.

First tried in FF, now tried in chromium 33, works in both.

213 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:00:10pm

re: #209 The War TARDIS

Not for me. Using Chrome.

try this… I’ve put a copy into my google drive, and shared it…

214 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2014 10:00:31pm

re: #211 RealityBasedSteve

This is what happens.

215 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:12:06pm

All Point Bulletin!!! The Thread is Dead!!!! It was last seen in the company of THE WAR TARDIS. Be On Look Out for said named individual.

RBS

216 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 10:14:18pm

The ganja in the thread has taken it’s toll.

217 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:15:18pm

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee, stitch stitch stitch.

218 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 10:16:02pm

Time for some Ronnie James Dio then

Youtube Video

219 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:16:57pm

Well, I’m outta here myself very shortly. Had a ‘challenging’ day, had to talk 19 people (who were not physically present with me) on how to create a free trial AZURE acct, and create a new database in it.

Lets just say that I’m glad I’ve got a lot of experience as a trainer, because I would have lost it otherwise.

RBS

220 jonhendry  Apr 25, 2014 10:17:03pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

“Since this last Sunday (4/20) I’ve been noticing a little more pushback to legal ganja in my great home state of Colorado. The Denver Post has ratcheted up the anti-pot letters.”

I would guess there was an increase in the # of letters received purely due to 4/20 and the attendant national media coverage. Watch the number of anti-pot letters and other coverage to revert to the pre-4/20 level in the next week or so.

221 jonhendry  Apr 25, 2014 10:19:14pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Ah, but consider. Aiken would likely be the first Congressperson to have worked with Monty Python. (Via his performances in Spamalot.)

222 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:21:22pm

re: #217 klys

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee, stitch stitch stitch.

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I remember doing needlepoint back in the 70’s. It was cool because Rosie Greer did it, and you didn’t mess with him.

RBS

223 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:22:44pm

re: #222 RealityBasedSteve

I remember doing needlepoint back in the 70’s. It was cool because Rosie Greer did it, and you didn’t mess with him.

RBS

My parents actually did a few pieces together. And my dad did some of that nail & string art, along with some kits (I have one hanging in the hallway at home - from my grandparents’ house).

And we won’t even talk about the crafty hobbies my grandmothers have/had.

224 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:33:24pm

I’ve never been artistic, but I do enjoy my craft type activities (pen making takes most of my time now). It lets me burn off some energy, makes my brain work in areas that it doesn’t usually go, and occasionally I end up with something that petty much takes my breath away.

Well, Lizards and Lizardettes, I’m outta here…. my closing gift to you, yet another great fashion look from the dark days of the soul know as “The Disco Era”.

No… Just NO!!!

RBS

225 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 10:35:10pm

re: #217 klys

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee, stitch stitch stitch.

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I don’t think I could find the Zen in that, it would drive me crazy to do stitching or needle point.

226 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:35:14pm

re: #224 RealityBasedSteve

Only $14.00!!!

227 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:36:06pm

re: #225 Single-handed sailor

I don’t think I could find the Zen in that, it would drive me crazy to do stitching or needle point.

Haha, this is eeeeeeeeeeeeasy.

My main hobby is more crazy.

See?

228 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:39:33pm

re: #226 klys

Only $14.00!!!

And I bet Charles had a set just like this….

RBS
Looking over my shoulder to see if he’s watching.

229 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:41:04pm

Tomorrow I get to go by the needlework store in Alameda (featured in the needle in a haystack episode of Mythbusters! haha, that’s their name too) and get linen for my next major project.

It turns out I dislike all the linen I have for it.

It will be so pretty.

230 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 10:42:38pm

re: #224 RealityBasedSteve

SPEEDSUITS FOR EVERYONE!

231 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:45:34pm

re: #230 Kragar

SPEEDSUITS FOR EVERYONE!

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I didn’t want to go there Krager, but you left me no choice….

Hi, We’re you new neighbors, and we swing.

232 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:45:43pm

re: #229 klys

This is the closest I can get to art coming out how I think it should. This and photography.

Drawing just frustrates me because it NEVER comes out how it looks in my head.

233 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:46:19pm

re: #230 Kragar

re: #231 RealityBasedSteve

You know, some of us got to skip that decade and were quite fine with that.

234 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:46:39pm

re: #184 b.d.

I invite all those diggers to look elsewhere for the worst video game ever made:

Custer’s Revenge

ET might have been a shit game for its time, and it lost Atari a bunch of money, but it’s hardly the worst thing ever presented as a video game.

235 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:47:27pm

re: #233 klys

You know, some of us got to skip that decade and were quite fine with that.

Get off my lawn /////

RBS

236 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:47:51pm

re: #235 RealityBasedSteve

Get off my lawn /////

RBS

I thought you were going to bed, old man.

///

237 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 25, 2014 10:49:47pm

re: #236 klys

I thought you were going to bed, old man.

///

I am… it’s 1 am here, and 7 will roll around soon enough. Have a good evening one and all.

Hugs and High-Fives all around.

RBS

238 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:50:07pm

re: #237 RealityBasedSteve

I am… it’s 1 am here, and 7 will roll around soon enough. Have a good evening one and all.

Hugs and High-Fives all around.

RBS

Ewww, 7am.

239 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 10:50:17pm

re: #231 RealityBasedSteve

I didn’t want to go there Krager, but you left me no choice….

Hi, We’re you new neighbors, and we swing.

240 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:51:15pm

re: #239 Kragar

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You know, you didn’t have to put up pictures of your neighbors from hell.

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241 Ming  Apr 25, 2014 10:53:31pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

Alcohol isn’t scheduled. Cannabis shouldn’t be either. Maybe that’ll be an Obama October Surprise in 2016, he’ll just remove cannabis from scheduled substances, right before the election, right before he leaves office.

Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

That would be great! Well, maybe it would be more appropriate to make cannibis (and alcohol) one of the Scheduled drugs, but not in the infamous Schedule I category.

Apparently this is an official DEA site, and I was amazed to see ketamine and anabolic steroids in Schedule III. Not that I know anything about those drugs, or most of what’s listed on the Schedules. But the Schedules don’t seem to make any sense. It may be better to do away with them completely.

Currently, methamphetamine is Schedule II, and marijuana is Schedule I. This is not making any sense. Time for me to go to bed.

242 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 10:54:19pm

re: #240 klys

You know, you didn’t have to put up pictures of your neighbors from hell.

////

I thought the neighbors from hell were these guys

243 jonhendry  Apr 25, 2014 10:54:42pm

re: #144 jaunte

“So that’s what’s wafting around outside. I suspect a possum curled up and died under my deck in the back yard yesterday, in a place where I can’t get to it.”

Judging by the possum that was in my parents’ house last week, they smell really bad when they’re alive, too.

It was hiding under a recliner. I found it by following the stink to its most intense location.

244 TedStriker  Apr 25, 2014 10:55:38pm

re: #242 Kragar

I thought the neighbors from hell were these guys

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Egads…brain bleach, stat!

245 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:56:46pm

re: #242 Kragar

I thought the neighbors from hell were these guys

[Embedded image]

I dunno, they were your neighbors.

246 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 10:56:50pm

re: #233 klys

You know, some of us got to skip that decade and were quite fine with that.

And some of us were kids at the tail end of that decade. I look back at some of my childhood photos and laugh. Not only was I saddled with a terrible pageboy haircut (which soon became a Dorothy Hamill haircut when I got older), but some of my clothes was horrific.

247 klys  Apr 25, 2014 10:58:55pm

re: #246 Lidane

And some of us were kids at the tail end of that decade. I look back at some of my childhood photos and laugh. Not only was I saddled with a terrible pageboy haircut (which soon became a Dorothy Hamill haircut when I got older), but some of my clothes was horrific.

I was tail end of the 80s, so there’s plenty of photos of me at 4 with sweatpants under a skirt and the bowl cut because I used to eat my hair and I had Popples sheets and striped Lands End shirts with matching shorts.

Fortunately NONE of those photos have been scanned. Hah.

248 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 11:00:28pm

Now, for the fashionable cultists…

249 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:01:18pm

re: #248 Kragar

So when do we get the photos of you in one of these?

250 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 11:02:19pm

re: #247 klys

Fortunately NONE of those photos have been scanned. Hah.

Oh, I’ve scanned quite a few of those. I’ve even put some of them up on my FB page for laughs. Luckily I end up embarrassing my friends from high school just as much. ROFL.

251 Floral Giraffe  Apr 25, 2014 11:02:27pm

Who says it never rains in Southern California? It’s POURING here right now !
Which is going to wreck my plans for tomorrow…

252 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 11:03:04pm

re: #248 Kragar

Now, for the fashionable cultists…

[Embedded image]

That cost $50 back when that amount of money really was something.

What a piece of shit.

253 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:03:17pm

re: #250 Lidane

Oh, I’ve scanned quite a few of those. I’ve even put some of them up on my FB page for laughs. Luckily I end up embarrassing my friends from high school just as much. ROFL.

One of my friends now teaches at the high school we went to, and I chat with her on Twitter sometimes. We have reflected that the lack of camera phones when we were in high school is not a bad thing.

re: #251 Floral Giraffe

We all need it! Don’t knock it.

254 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 11:05:45pm

re: #237 RealityBasedSteve

7 AM, what’s that?

255 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 11:05:49pm

re: #253 klys

We have reflected that the lack of camera phones when we were in high school is not a bad thing.

The best thing about being in my 40’s (well, one of them, anyway) is that I did most of my stupid, truly embarrassing shit years before anyone had a smartphone and before the internet really took off. I am forever grateful for that.

256 palomino  Apr 25, 2014 11:06:27pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

He should probably talk to his doctor about it first

Would you say the same thing if I told him to have a glass of whiskey?

What do you actually know about pot? And why do you feel the need to play hall monitor? Maybe you should be on a college campus right now, ignoring all the drunks but telling the stoners that they need to see their doctor first.

257 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:06:42pm

re: #255 Lidane

The best thing about being in my 40’s (well, one of them, anyway) is that I did most of my stupid, truly embarrassing shit years before anyone had a smartphone and before the internet really took off. I am forever grateful for that.

I use an entirely different set of screennames now, there is no possible way to connect me to the shitty fanfic of my youth.

258 jonhendry  Apr 25, 2014 11:08:19pm

re: #223 klys

Stuff like this has made me think about doing crossstitch:

etsy.com

KISS THE COOK

259 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:09:39pm

re: #258 jonhendry

Stuff like this has made me think about doing crossstitch:

etsy.com

KISS THE COOK

There is so much fantastically modern stuff out there. I heartly approve. What I do tends to be in one vein, but I love seeing my hobby become a little more prevalent (it’d certainly been on its way to dying off).

260 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:10:21pm

re: #258 jonhendry

I have seen several lovely patterns asking people not to do coke in the bathroom, for example.

261 TedStriker  Apr 25, 2014 11:12:44pm

re: #258 jonhendry

Stuff like this has made me think about doing crossstitch:

etsy.com

KISS THE COOK

That’s totally badass.

In a homey sort of way, of course.

262 Kragar  Apr 25, 2014 11:13:30pm

re: #249 klys

So when do we get the photos of you in one of these?

All those photos were destroyed along with the photographers.

263 Ming  Apr 25, 2014 11:15:59pm

re: #256 palomino

Would you say the same thing if I told him to have a glass of whiskey?

What do you actually know about pot? And why do you feel the need to play hall monitor? Maybe you should be on a college campus right now, ignoring all the drunks but telling the stoners that they need to see their doctor first.

Until the government removes marijuana from its Schedule I, medical research on the drug remains illegal, so unfortunately anyone can say just about anything about the effect of marijuana on health, however hostile or insulting.

Considering the number of Americans who actually use marijuana, an evolving body of medical research would be extremely beneficial.

For now, I can safely say that I’d rather eat an Alice B. Toklas brownie than play 10 minutes of college football.

264 Floral Giraffe  Apr 25, 2014 11:17:59pm

re: #253 klys

I KNOW we need it, but I wanted to watch the Ensenada boat race tomorrow!
NOW what am I going to do with all the chicken salad I made earlier, to feed friends tomorrow?

265 klys  Apr 25, 2014 11:19:00pm

re: #264 Floral Giraffe

I KNOW we need it, but I wanted to watch the Ensenada boat race tomorrow!
NOW what am I going to do with all the chicken salad I made earlier, to feed friends tomorrow?

Eat it?

Make them come over anyway.

266 Floral Giraffe  Apr 25, 2014 11:22:10pm

re: #265 klys

Make them come over anyway is the best idea!
I’d be eating it for a month!

267 Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2014 11:24:07pm

re: #260 klys

I have seen several lovely patterns asking people not to do coke in the bathroom, for example.

People still do coke? That’s so 80s!

268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 11:35:31pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

Dear GOP,

You can’t encourage people to come to your side until you stop incorporating massively insulting and patronizing ideas about them into your core ideology.

I learned that politics is about winning people over to your viewpoint, not calling everyone you disagree with a “loser”, “moocher”, “traitor”, “communist/socialist”, “thug,, “Muslim/atheist”, “slut”, “baby-killer”, etc…

269 Lidane  Apr 25, 2014 11:45:10pm

Joining Cliven Bundy on the CPAC 2015 guest list:

270 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 25, 2014 11:48:15pm

re: #184 b.d.

Girlfriend gave me a book “Ready Player One” about a dystopic future in which people search through clues hidden in old 80’s video games and VCR’s for clues to an enormous a hidden treasure.

Kinda reminds me that I spent an awful lot of the the 80’s hiding out in the forests and deserts outside Apache Junction, Sedona and Flagstaff, Arizona and had little to do with TV, video games or popular culture in general.

271 CuriousLurker  Apr 26, 2014 12:02:16am

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

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Ellmers is the worst sort of pandering, fear mongering bigot and I hope she gets trounced by Aiken. You really have no ethics when it comes to party loyalty, do you? She still has this POS on her YouTube channel. *spit*

Youtube Video

272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 12:04:39am

re: #271 CuriousLurker

“Let me tell you about the Muslim…”

273 goddamnedfrank  Apr 26, 2014 12:07:42am

re: #271 CuriousLurker

Ellmers is the worst sort of pandering, fear mongering bigot and I hope she gets trounced by Aiken. You really have no ethics when it comes to party loyalty, do you? She still has this POS on her YouTube channel. *spit*

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LOL, of course she does. The woman is a bigot through and through.

274 CuriousLurker  Apr 26, 2014 12:08:22am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Sometimes D_F just…

275 CuriousLurker  Apr 26, 2014 12:12:51am

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

LOL, of course she does. The woman is a bigot through and through.

My son & his GF live in NC. This reminds me to make sure they intend to vote in the mid-terms.

Good going D_F, you just won two more votes for Aiken!

276 klys  Apr 26, 2014 12:14:09am

re: #275 CuriousLurker

Have a kitten.

277 CuriousLurker  Apr 26, 2014 12:19:44am

re: #276 klys

Heh, one of mine just woke up and sleepily followed me into the living room. She’s currently sitting in a chair across from me looking at me like, “WTF? We were already in bed, sleeping. Do you realize it’s after 3:00 am?”

278 CuriousLurker  Apr 26, 2014 12:23:38am

Oh man, I just remembered JAH and her son. What a terrible time she’s going through. Her heart must be breaking into a million pieces. Maybe I should go back to bed and try to escape the thoughts that come at 3AM.

279 goddamnedfrank  Apr 26, 2014 12:31:01am

re: #269 Lidane

Joining Cliven Bundy on the CPAC 2015 guest list:

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Amazing. They should give out a Nobel Prize for oblivious tardfuckery, to truly acknowledge the priceless contribution these rich old white clowns are making to our society.

— “It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you’re associating with black people. Do you have to?” (3:30)

— “You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that … and not to bring them to my games.” (5:15)

— “I’m just saying, in your lousy f******* Instagrams, you don’t have to have yourself with, walking with black people.” (7:45)

— “…Don’t put him [Magic] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don’t bring him to my games.”

Fucker is lucky enough to own a basketball team and he’s bitching about his inappropriately young half-black trophy girlfriend bringing Magic Johnson to his games because he’s black.

Doesn’t care if she sleeps with black guys, because let’s be honest, the odds of him satisfying her in that department are dubious at best, but being seen or photographed walking with black people is a bridge too far.

280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 1:09:25am

re: #279 goddamnedfrank

funny how we still hold up sports as a symbol for all we hold near and dear about America: fair play, competition, the striving for excellence.

this is behind the rationale for maintaining a system in which college athletes are basically the unpaid minor league training camps for the NFL and NBA.

but scrape away at this PR veneer and you see the racism, homophobia, disregard for health and safety, elitism and unscrupulous drive for making money that powers the entire system.

281 Varek Raith  Apr 26, 2014 1:19:17am

Nothing like being woken up by a massive allergy attack.
Stupid trees and their stupid pollen.

282 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 1:24:23am

re: #281 Varek Raith

Nothing like being woken up by a massive allergy attack.
Stupid trees and their stupid pollen.

I attend an outdoor music at an apple orchard outside Frankfurt every 1st of May, it is a great event, and an ongoing tradition (nearly 20 years now) but every year, my allergies get worse and worse, I have trouble keeping my eyes open afterward, they are so irritated.

283 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 2:21:38am

Wide awake

you?

284 Justanotherhuman  Apr 26, 2014 3:19:55am

Dear Friends, I regret to inform you that my beloved son, father, grandfather, passed away at 10:40 am on Friday, only hours after he was removed from life support. Organ failure quickly followed hypoxia from the cardiac arrest he suffered on Sunday morning, and he never regained consciousness.

We are devastated even though it was expected, and are scrambling to find a way to bury him (he did not want cremation even though he also didn’t want to be kept alive on a “machine”) because he had no insurance and few resources. We are trying to find some local funding for a burial as well as trying to pool resources for a burial plot, both expensive, and had almost come to a consensus of cremation as a last resort (which we could afford), but his son wants to continue looking for a way to bury him, since it was my son’s wish.

My son was a kind and generous person, to a fault, and sometimes to his own detriment, but he loved people and he was loved in return. We will miss him so much, but he lived his life as he wanted and I expect that is what we all think we do, in the end, for better or worse. Unfortunately, he didn’t care about having a lot of money for himself and was impractical in that respect, but we will find a way to honor his last wish, although it might not be possible in the end.

We have also heard from relatives we haven’t seen in many years (through a FB posting on my granddaughter’s page) and I’m still sorting that out. Worst of all, when I called his father in WA state to inform him of his hospitalization, his father wasn’t even interested. Not surprising, since he showed no interest in him during his entire life—a total failure of character on his father’s part, for which his son forgave him, but which I never have because it did affect my son tremendously. All in all, this is a sad, but busy, as well as confusing and frustrating, time for us.

Nevertheless, I wanted to get this to message to you and to thank you for all your kind thoughts in our time of grief.

285 Flounder  Apr 26, 2014 3:43:22am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

My sincerest and most heart felt condolences. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. I’m sorry.

286 dell*nix  Apr 26, 2014 3:51:23am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

Condolences. May he rest in peace.

287 freetoken  Apr 26, 2014 4:18:02am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

{{{Justanotherhuman}}}

288 freetoken  Apr 26, 2014 4:28:12am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I do believe North Carolina does allow simple burials on private property, if any of your family owns land. Local ordinances may apply, of course. You might want to contact these people regarding laws about family plots:
ncbfs.org

289 Dark_Falcon  Apr 26, 2014 5:00:08am

re: #182 palomino

If you think your tweet was “pushback”, you don’t know Twitter. You have no impact on Twitter if you stay in G-rated mode. If you want anyone to pay attention, you need to go full retard on Twitter. Remember you’ve only got 140 characters. And YOUR tweet will be forgotten, just like millions of others each day, unless it says something over the top.

I don’t go ‘over the top’ like that. I’ve got a job that involves interacting with the public and my Twitter account uses my actual name. So I have to keep it clean.

290 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 5:05:41am

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

I don’t go ‘over the top’ like that. I’ve got a job that involves interacting with the public and my Twitter account uses my actual name. So I have to keep it,clean.

Were you aware of the candidates bigoted, divisive, and unamerican remarks about Muslims when you tweeted in support of her?

291 BongCrodny  Apr 26, 2014 5:10:17am

re: #53 teleskiguy

Since this last Sunday (4/20) I’ve been noticing a little more pushback to legal ganja in my great home state of Colorado. The Denver Post has ratcheted up the anti-pot letters.

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Heady times in Colorado and Washington these days! Just watch. Whoever runs for president in 2016 should use this issue to their advantage. Hearts and minds are changing rapidly about cannabis.

Here’s something a little more rational from the Kansas City Star.

Families flee Kansas and Missouri so sick kids can get medical marijuana

I used to work for the Denver Post about a million years ago. Thought it was a really good newspaper then; sad to see them turning into a fearmonger.

292 Dark_Falcon  Apr 26, 2014 5:12:37am

re: #191 teleskiguy

Hot Wingnut On Wingnut Action! TM

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As soon as you reject part of the Bad Craziness (BC), the entirity of the BC will attack you.

This is also Alex Jones running a “The Best Defense is a Good Offense” strategy. Jones, like most wingnuts, ended up with major egg on his face when Cliven Bundy was revealed as a racist. Glenn Beck, however, kept his distance and so avoided being embarrassed along with Jones and the rest of the lot. So now Jones is attacking Beck with a conspiracy theory in order to avoid having to admit that he screwed up.

293 Dark_Falcon  Apr 26, 2014 5:13:32am

re: #290 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

No. It was just standard “Stand with you party” support.

294 Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2014 5:19:06am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

No. It was just standard “Stand with you party” support.

Half the politicians in my party are assholes. Almost all of the
TPGOP are assholes or asshole-enablers. “Rah-rah Dem” makes less sense than “Roll, Tide”.

295 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 26, 2014 5:21:30am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

“In the midst of life, we be in death.” {{{jah}}}

296 sagehen  Apr 26, 2014 5:21:52am

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

As soon as you reject part of the Bad Craziness (BC), the entirity of the BC will attack you.

This is also Alex Jones running a “The Best Defense is a Good Offense” strategy. Jones, like most wingnuts, ended up with major egg on his face when Cliven Bundy was revealed as a racist. Glenn Beck, however, kept his distance and so avoided being embarrassed along with Jones and the rest of the lot. So now Jones is attacking Beck with a conspiracy theory in order to avoid having to admit that he screwed up.

I gathered that Beck’s lack of support was because he owns land that other people’s cattle graze on; those fees are personal to him.

297 Dark_Falcon  Apr 26, 2014 5:29:57am

BBIAB, narcolepsy.

298 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 5:46:53am

re: #296 sagehen

I gathered that Beck’s lack of support was because he owns land that other people’s cattle graze on; those fees are personal to him.

A lot of other Nevada ranchers seem to share the same point of view. They know they are getting a good deal from the BLM and see no reason to be assholes about it.

299 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 6:08:18am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

{{{Justanotherhuman}}}

300 Political Atheist  Apr 26, 2014 6:11:42am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

So sorry to hear that. Hugs,prayers and the kindest thoughts for you and the rest of the family.

301 Dr Lizardo  Apr 26, 2014 6:19:50am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I’m very sorry to hear that; my deepest condolences and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

302 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 6:20:21am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

No. It was just standard “Stand with you party” support.

Does this teach you anything? Are you going to bother to investigate whether the GOP politician you’re supporting is a horrific bigot who also advocates the US defaults on its debts like a con-man?

303 darthstar  Apr 26, 2014 6:22:41am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I’m so sorry for your loss. Peace.

304 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 6:25:09am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

Dear Friends, I regret to inform you that my beloved son, father, grandfather, passed away at 10:40 am on Friday, only hours after he was removed from life support.

I thought about you all week Justanother, knowing all you must have been going through. You will remain in my thoughts, and I hope you and your family can find strength and peace.

305 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:25:40am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

Dear Friends, I regret to inform you that my beloved son, father, grandfather, passed away at 10:40 am on Friday, only hours after he was removed from life support. Organ failure quickly followed hypoxia from the cardiac arrest he suffered on Sunday morning, and he never regained consciousness.

We are devastated even though it was expected, and are scrambling to find a way to bury him (he did not want cremation even though he also didn’t want to be kept alive on a “machine”) because he had no insurance and few resources. We are trying to find some local funding for a burial as well as trying to pool resources for a burial plot, both expensive, and had almost come to a consensus of cremation as a last resort (which we could afford), but his son wants to continue looking for a way to bury him, since it was my son’s wish.

My son was a kind and generous person, to a fault, and sometimes to his own detriment, but he loved people and he was loved in return. We will miss him so much, but he lived his life as he wanted and I expect that is what we all think we do, in the end, for better or worse. Unfortunately, he didn’t care about having a lot of money for himself and was impractical in that respect, but we will find a way to honor his last wish, although it might not be possible in the end.

We have also heard from relatives we haven’t seen in many years (through a FB posting on my granddaughter’s page) and I’m still sorting that out. Worst of all, when I called his father in WA state to inform him of his hospitalization, his father wasn’t even interested. Not surprising, since he showed no interest in him during his entire life—a total failure of character on his father’s part, for which his son forgave him, but which I never have because it did affect my son tremendously. All in all, this is a sad, but busy, as well as confusing and frustrating, time for us.

Nevertheless, I wanted to get this to message to you and to thank you for all your kind thoughts in our time of grief.

{{{{{Justanotherhuman}}}}}}

306 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 6:26:57am
307 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:27:22am

re: #304 ObserverArt

I thought about you all week Justanother, knowing all you must have been going through. You will remain in my thoughts, and I hope you and your family can find strength and peace.

I can’t imagine.

I am glad LGF is here. Having someone to share with can be a powerful tool in healing.

308 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 6:29:18am

re: #302 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Does this teach you anything? Are you going to bother to investigate whether the GOP politician you’re supporting is a horrific bigot who also advocates the US defaults on its debts like a con-man?

It doesn’t ever seem to matter to Dark. Party over anything. Anything being rationality, others, the country, etc. Dark is a hard one to figure out.

309 Political Atheist  Apr 26, 2014 6:29:34am

Good morning. Looks like a really fun day, where a few of us long in the trade have students and staff up from the Gemological Institute (where they teach gemology and jewelry making) to the gold refinery.

I really enjoy teaching this stuff. We get to include a little shop physics combustion, metallurgy, the art of casting, etc. I think I’d love a part time teaching gig in the biz when I retire maybe in a decade or so.

310 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 6:32:14am
311 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:32:32am
312 PhillyPretzel  Apr 26, 2014 6:32:35am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I am very sorry to hear of your loss. You and your family are in my prayers.

313 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:34:40am

re: #308 ObserverArt

It doesn’t ever seem to matter to Dark. Party over anything. Anything being rationality, others, the country, etc. Dark is a hard one to figure out.

I’ve noticed that for some the cold war paranoia was bred strong. It’s kinda weird because the faithful almost conditioned loyalty to a certain ideal or party is a hallmark of totalitarian governments.

314 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:35:49am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

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I forgot to post that I posted this for Justanotherhuman.

315 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 6:39:20am

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

I’ve noticed that for some the cold war paranoia was bred strong. It’s kinda weird because the faithful almost conditioned loyalty to a certain ideal or party is a hallmark of totalitarian governments.

Exactly. I was going to post something similar, but decided against it. But, you are right, when a ‘name’ or an ‘idea’ or ‘cause’ is more important than the reality of its makeup and goals bad stuff often happens. I think they call that blind loyalty.

I never want to choose to be blind about anything.

316 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:40:54am

Rape Charges Filed Vs. GOP Official

317 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:42:26am

Ok, this is cool:
23 GIFs That Will Teach You A Damn Thing For Once In Your Life

318 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 6:43:29am

re: #316 FemNaziBitch

Rape Charges Filed Vs. GOP Official

was it legitimate rape?

319 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 6:44:28am
320 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:48:29am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

was it legitimate rape?

**grrr***

321 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 6:51:13am

????

322 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 6:56:08am
323 Political Atheist  Apr 26, 2014 6:57:16am

re: #322 NJDhockeyfan

I’ll bring the gravy and stuffing.

324 makeitstop  Apr 26, 2014 6:59:33am

re: #267 Single-handed sailor

People still do coke? That’s so 80s!

You’d be surprised. I know I’m often surprised at the amount of marching powder still in use out there.

I haven’t touched the stuff since the late 80s, and I’m perfectly fine with that. My old man ticker probably couldn’t take it at this point, so I stay far, far away from it now.

325 makeitstop  Apr 26, 2014 7:10:03am

re: #296 sagehen

I gathered that Beck’s lack of support was because he owns land that other people’s cattle graze on; those fees are personal to him.

And as has been pointed out frequently, Beck is looking at a massive defamation suit that could cost him and his company millions of dollars (and should).

Nothing reins in Teh Crazy like a looming legal judgment that could reduce your net worth by a hefty percentage.

Of course, that begs the question - was Beck just acting crazy then, or is he acting sane now?

326 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:14:33am

I don’t think I’ll be reading it, but someone might be interested:

327 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:15:20am
328 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:19:38am

Bill O’Reilly Is Freaking Out About Beyoncé Again

329 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:19:56am

re: #324 makeitstop

You’d be surprised. I know I’m often surprised at the amount of marching powder still in use out there.

I haven’t touched the stuff since the late 80s, and I’m perfectly fine with that. My old man ticker probably couldn’t take it at this point, so I stay far, far away from it now.

Pesi, no coke.

330 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:21:40am

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

Bill O’Reilly Is Freaking Out About Beyoncé Again

I guess a married women isn’t supposed to WANT her husband and tell people about it.

331 Flounder  Apr 26, 2014 7:22:18am

re: #327 FemNaziBitch

He gets the asshole of the year award.

332 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:24:13am

I don’t think I want to know.

333 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:33:27am

Visit to the World’s Fair of 2014 I. Asimov

334 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 7:33:34am
335 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 7:35:02am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

DUCK,,, DUCK,,, DUCK,,

GOOOSE!!!!

336 Political Atheist  Apr 26, 2014 7:35:31am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

Aflaaak… ouch *&%$

*fading*

337 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 7:36:21am

VOCABULARY WORD (PHRASE) OF THE DAY:

Today’s 50-Cent Phrase: “Cognitive Estrangement”

By immersing yourself in a story, whether written or visual, you get to know the world the writer has created. When things in that fictional world differ from your understanding of how the real world works, you begin to ask questions. And you want answers. You look for an explanation of why these things are the way they are.

Literature scholars have a fancy name for this: cognitive estrangement. (Write that down; you can use it to impress your friends at parties.) Cognitive estrangement puts the reader in a world different than their own such that the reader is provoked to think about those differences and question them from a unique perspective. Cognitive estrangement is essentially literature’s solution to “can’t see the forest for the trees.” By stepping outside a situation (seeing it from another’s perspective), we detach ourselves from it and can better see it for what it is.

338 Political Atheist  Apr 26, 2014 7:36:22am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

No no no you idiot. You shoot the bird with the arrow not the arrow with the bird.

339 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 7:36:59am

re: #322 NJDhockeyfan

I posted that yesterday

I said I thought it would be cool to erect a large billboard there with a picture of a full Thanksgiving day spread, a HUGE cooked turkey on a platter right in the middle, with a graphic that states

DEAR PETA,,,, PLEASE PASS THE GRAVY

340 Varek Raith  Apr 26, 2014 7:37:26am

re: #338 Political Atheist

No no no you idiot. You shoot the bird with the arrow not the arrow with the bird.

Since when???

341 Flounder  Apr 26, 2014 7:38:34am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

My new goose scope works great, it just smells a little fowl.

342 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 7:39:10am

re: #337 FemNaziBitch

Matt Ruff wrote the excellent “Sewer, Gas, Electric” and the terrifying “Bad Monkeys”. The latter is an excellent examination/satire of ideological revolution and counter-revolution.

343 makeitstop  Apr 26, 2014 7:40:06am

Interesting take on a doorbell.

I’d like mine with a Les Paul and Marshall 100 - just to be sure I hear it.

344 Lidane  Apr 26, 2014 7:41:49am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

My deepest and most sincere condolences to you and your family.

{{{Justanotherhuman}}}

345 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 7:42:03am

re: #341 Flounder

My new goose scope works great, it just smells a little fowl.

You’re not going to feather your nest with jokes like that; it was a rotten egg. You’ve not got your audience rapt or displayed any particular talont there. Hawking those sorts of dodos here is going to make you look like a loon or a coot. Go out on a wing and a prayer and take a gander at some better bird-based comedians, like Eddie Buzzard.

346 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 7:42:50am

re: #345 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You’re not going to feather your nest with jokes like that; it was a rotten egg. You’ve not got your audience rapt or displayed any particular talont there. Hawking those sorts of dodos here is going to make you look like a loon or a coot. Go out on a wing and a prayer and take a gander at some better bird-based comedians, like Eddie Buzzard.

that was a cheep shot

347 Flounder  Apr 26, 2014 7:43:04am

re: #345 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You are amazing sir!

348 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 7:43:20am

re: #339 sattv4u2

I posted that yesterday

I said I thought it would be cool to erect a large billboard there with a picture of a full Thanksgiving day spread, a HUGE cooked turkey on a platter right in the middle, with a graphic that states

DEAR PETA,,,, PLEASE PASS THE GRAVY

And next to the billboard have a giant cookout!

349 Dark_Falcon  Apr 26, 2014 7:46:05am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

Dear Friends, I regret to inform you that my beloved son, father, grandfather, passed away at 10:40 am on Friday, only hours after he was removed from life support. Organ failure quickly followed hypoxia from the cardiac arrest he suffered on Sunday morning, and he never regained consciousness.

We are devastated even though it was expected, and are scrambling to find a way to bury him (he did not want cremation even though he also didn’t want to be kept alive on a “machine”) because he had no insurance and few resources. We are trying to find some local funding for a burial as well as trying to pool resources for a burial plot, both expensive, and had almost come to a consensus of cremation as a last resort (which we could afford), but his son wants to continue looking for a way to bury him, since it was my son’s wish.

My son was a kind and generous person, to a fault, and sometimes to his own detriment, but he loved people and he was loved in return. We will miss him so much, but he lived his life as he wanted and I expect that is what we all think we do, in the end, for better or worse. Unfortunately, he didn’t care about having a lot of money for himself and was impractical in that respect, but we will find a way to honor his last wish, although it might not be possible in the end.

We have also heard from relatives we haven’t seen in many years (through a FB posting on my granddaughter’s page) and I’m still sorting that out. Worst of all, when I called his father in WA state to inform him of his hospitalization, his father wasn’t even interested. Not surprising, since he showed no interest in him during his entire life—a total failure of character on his father’s part, for which his son forgave him, but which I never have because it did affect my son tremendously. All in all, this is a sad, but busy, as well as confusing and frustrating, time for us.

Nevertheless, I wanted to get this to message to you and to thank you for all your kind thoughts in our time of grief.

I’m sorry to hear that, and I will keep your son in my prayers.

350 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 7:46:11am

re: #347 Flounder

You are amazing sir!

Sorry the tone was so negative, but bird metaphors and names tend towards the ridiculous. I hope you didn’t take any of that out of tern.

351 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 7:46:16am

re: #345 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You’re not going to feather your nest with jokes like that; it was a rotten egg. You’ve not got your audience rapt or displayed any particular talont there. Hawking those sorts of dodos here is going to make you look like a loon or a coot. Go out on a wing and a prayer and take a gander at some better bird-based comedians, like Eddie Buzzard.

What a bird brained post. Robin’ others thoughts flies in the face of all the good work that a Russell Crow or Ethan Hawke has done

352 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 7:46:24am

re: #331 Flounder

He gets the asshole of the year award.

Year? Pfffft!

He goes into the asshole hall of shame for eternity.

353 Flounder  Apr 26, 2014 7:49:12am

PETA seeks memorial for cows killed in Berne, NY

354 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 7:50:14am

re: #353 Flounder

PETA seeks memorial for cows killed in Berne, NY

I think that would be a good location for a Ruths Chris steak house !!!!

355 Flounder  Apr 26, 2014 7:52:17am

re: #354 sattv4u2

I was going to post something about the beef already been tenderized, but, I won’t.

356 Dark_Falcon  Apr 26, 2014 7:52:23am

re: #353 Flounder

PETA seeks memorial for cows killed in Berne, NY

I’m sure they have a moooving ceremony planned. But its out in the rural boondocks, so PETA may find most of its supporters cud not make the trip.

357 The War TARDIS  Apr 26, 2014 7:53:34am

APB to all lizards, we have a missing girl from Greenwood Village, CO.

Name is Ava Reinhard.

Also, FB.

Recent update:

Update 4/26/2014 12:32 PM: Seen going towards California with young adult males that go by “Ghost” and “Juice” carrying a red duffle bag.

DENVER we need your help!!!! Ava has been sighted near the train at Broadway and Florida, along theW line of the light rail near abandoned buildings in Jeffco, and downtown on the 16th street mall. If you can get out to these places now we need everyone’s help to look for her. We have been told the people she’s been seen with are planning to leave the state.

358 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 7:54:32am
359 Varek Raith  Apr 26, 2014 7:57:05am

re: #345 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You’re not going to feather your nest with jokes like that; it was a rotten egg. You’ve not got your audience rapt or displayed any particular talont there. Hawking those sorts of dodos here is going to make you look like a loon or a coot. Go out on a wing and a prayer and take a gander at some better bird-based comedians, like Eddie Buzzard.

Dude.

360 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 7:59:30am

re: #353 Flounder

PETA seeks memorial for cows killed in Berne, NY

That reminds me of steak…a big fucking steak…

361 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 8:09:06am

re: #358 NJDhockeyfan

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Yesterday they were claiming he went nuts at the border, tore up his tourist visa and started begging for asylum.

362 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 8:10:20am

re: #361 Killgore Trout

Yesterday they were claiming he went nuts at the border, tore up his tourist visa and started begging for asylum.

I thought that was the guy in North Korea on a tourist visa

364 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 8:12:58am
365 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 8:13:53am

re: #362 sattv4u2

I thought that was the guy in North Korea on a tourist visa

oops, my bad. I have no idea how I mixed up North Korea and Russia.
/need moar coffeee

366 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 8:16:46am

Hey Dark…I see you posted about some the Stanley Playoff game between Chicago and St. Louie. The playoffs have been great…well except for Montreal winning in 4.

So, how about those Columbus Blue Jackets, eh? People probably thought the Pittsburgh Penguins would roll over them with ease. I’m proud of the guys and their never-give-up attitudes. They tied the game Wednesday night with less than half a minute to go by putting one between and through Crosby and Letang who were trying to cover for Fluery who was playing the puck behind the net before it got knocked out to Dubinsky for the tying goal.

Nationwide arena was 100+ decibel loud and proud all night even with the team down 3-0 five minutes in.

Series tied 2-2 with both teams winning one at home and away. All games have been 4-3, two overtimes…and the team that has had the 3-1 lead has lost in each game. You can’t write that script.

Hockey has officially come of age in Columbus. And, we are a hockey town. Look out Detroit and Pittsburgh…no easy games anymore, the rivalry is on!!!

Videos of the tying goal and winning goal. Listen to that Columbus crowd.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

Yeah…I’m just a little into this. Forgive me. Can’t wait for tonight’s game.

367 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 8:18:14am

Homemade tunnel digging machine in Gaza looks pretty cool
gettyimages.com

368 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 8:19:45am

re: #366 ObserverArt

GO BRUINS !!

369 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 8:21:04am

re: #367 Killgore Trout

Homemade tunnel digging machine in Gaza looks pretty cool
gettyimages.com

They have an order in to ACME for the rocket-launcher-accessory-kit

370 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:26:19am

re: #345 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You’re not going to feather your nest with jokes like that; it was a rotten egg. You’ve not got your audience rapt or displayed any particular talont there. Hawking those sorts of dodos here is going to make you look like a loon or a coot. Go out on a wing and a prayer and take a gander at some better bird-based comedians, like Eddie Buzzard.

Well, you are certainly awake.

May I have the name of your coffee brand, please sir?

371 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:27:58am

re: #342 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Matt Ruff wrote the excellent “Sewer, Gas, Electric” and the terrifying “Bad Monkeys”. The latter is an excellent examination/satire of ideological revolution and counter-revolution.

Only one of his is on Audible. It’s in the queue.

372 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 8:27:59am

re: #370 FemNaziBitch

Well, you are certainly awake.

May I have the name of your coffee brand, please sir?

I just stare at this gif for 5 minutes.

373 Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2014 8:30:31am

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

Looks like Morton’s.

374 Lidane  Apr 26, 2014 8:30:45am
375 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:31:15am
376 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:32:10am

re: #374 Lidane

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Little Moses channelling there?

377 Snarknado!  Apr 26, 2014 8:32:15am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I’m so sorry to hear this.

378 darthstar  Apr 26, 2014 8:32:54am
379 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:32:59am

Regarding the goose arrow.

My first thought was that whomever was hit by it would be goosed. But I couldn’t form the sentence.

Carl Sagan didn’t help.

380 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:33:29am
381 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 8:34:57am

re: #373 Amory Blaine

Looks like Morton’s.

I don’t believe Mortons has the steak challenge

I do know that former coach Don Shulas restaurants (amongst others) has them

382 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:37:25am

Republican Governors Declare War on Civilized Society

In a way, although it is perverse in a so-called civilized society some Americans think this country is, it makes sense that Georgia, part of the third world former Confederacy, passed a law allowing frightened residents to carry loaded firearms in any public area; guns are likely at the forefront of their minds. The region already leads the nation in poverty, crumbling infrastructure, low-wage jobs, child poverty, lack of healthcare, poor educational outcomes, and a people mired in religious extremism, so the vision of residents carrying loaded firearms meets the standard of uncivilized nations like Somalia and Yemen. America is continuing to devolve from a once-civilized society into a barbaric gun-toting nation and while many Americans pale at the prospect of loaded guns in schools, bars, courthouses, malls, airports, and churches, an element of the population derives pleasure at the prospect of armed men roaming the public square because they saw images of Somalia and begged the NRA and Republicans to create America in Somalia’s image.

Sometimes I wonder if fear of such a thing is what brings it to pass.

383 Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2014 8:37:29am

Not to beat a dead horse but I don’t see a mention of a “eat this=free” challenge. Going by the frenched bone on that gorgeous ribeye and the tableware was a tell for me.

384 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:38:57am
385 Lidane  Apr 26, 2014 8:47:15am

re: #382 FemNaziBitch

Republican Governors Declare War on Civilized Society

Sometimes I wonder if fear of such a thing is what brings it to pass.

It’s not fear. It’s a long-standing desire for a society just like Somalia’s. A lot of the libertarian cranks hold Somalia up as a paradise, since there’s no centralized government, no gun control, etc. They WANT us to devolve into anarchy.

386 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2014 8:48:25am

Another tidbit about Renee Ellmers. She’s huge about the 2nd Amendment and responsible gun ownership.

Unsecured AR-15 rifle reported stolen from U.S. Rep. Ellmers’ home

RALEIGH — U.S. Rep. Renee Ellmers’ husband reported an AR-15 rifle stolen from the family’s home in Dunn last week, according to a police report.
The weapon had been left leaning against a gun locker in an unlocked garage on Kingsway Drive, the report said.

387 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:48:55am

re: #385 Lidane

It’s not fear. It’s a long-standing desire for a society just like Somalia’s. A lot of the libertarian cranks hold Somalia up as a paradise, since there’s no centralized government, no gun control, etc. They WANT us to devolve into anarchy.

And they ALL think they will be at the top of the food chain?

388 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 8:49:06am
389 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 26, 2014 8:49:18am

re: #379 FemNaziBitch

Regarding the goose arrow.

My first thought was that whomever was hit by it would be goosed. But I couldn’t form the sentence.

Carl Sagan didn’t help.

Does that bow use a peep sight?

390 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:49:20am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another tidbit about Renee Ellmers. She’s huge about the 2nd Amendment and responsible gun ownership.

Unsecured AR-15 rifle reported stolen from U.S. Rep. Ellmers’ home

HOLY FUCK!

My Dear Ole’ Dad is rolling in his grave.

391 Romantic Heretic  Apr 26, 2014 8:50:02am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I’m so sorry for your loss. *HUGS* My wife sends her prayers as well.

392 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 8:50:28am

re: #353 Flounder

PETA seeks memorial for cows killed in Berne, NY

Are they gonna hold a special service for Bundy’s dead calf?

393 Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2014 8:50:52am

re: #390 FemNaziBitch

“Gun safety is of the utmost importance in their household,

Yeah, right.

394 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:51:46am

re: #385 Lidane

It’s not fear. It’s a long-standing desire for a society just like Somalia’s. A lot of the libertarian cranks hold Somalia up as a paradise, since there’s no centralized government, no gun control, etc. They WANT us to devolve into anarchy.

Youtube Video
CHAOS IS A LADDER

395 Stephen T.  Apr 26, 2014 8:52:00am

re: #46 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s a lot of dark stuff to unpack in the “better off under slavery” thing.

Today it occurred to me that it’s not just about race as justification for slavery, but also about denying all the abuses inherent in the system.

The arbitrary physical violence?

The rapes, and the subsequent chattelage of one’s own children?

The police state invested with the ability to surveil suspected abolitionists, to confiscate and destroy all printed/written abolitionist materials, and detain any suspected sympathizer? The death penalty for abolitionists,,,and/or the collaboration of legal authorities in lynching or extralegal murders?

All of this is handwaved. It’s exaggeration, lies, propaganda.

There is a part of me that wonders if the “better under slavery” language might also be a way of softening up people for a return to legal chattel slavery, you know where your food and shelter were provided for you if you worked for someone for life with no chance of ever leaving? No more living paycheck to paycheck, right?

396 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 8:52:32am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another tidbit about Renee Ellmers. She’s huge about the 2nd Amendment and responsible gun ownership.

Unsecured AR-15 rifle reported stolen from U.S. Rep. Ellmers’ home

Stupid arrogance right there. They should have those guns taken away for being careless.

Yeah…gun control. Controlling guns from someone that should know better. An example to lawful gun owners.

397 Lidane  Apr 26, 2014 8:53:35am

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

And they ALL think they will be at the top of the food chain?

Well, duh. Clearly they’d be granted their own fiefdoms because Ayn Rand and Jesus don’tcha know.

398 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 8:54:25am

re: #395 Stephen T.

There is a part of me that wonders if the “better under slavery” language might also be a way of softening up people for a return to legal chattel slavery, you know where your food and shelter were provided for you if you worked for someone for life with no chance of ever leaving? No more living paycheck to paycheck, right?

Lotsa these people think that the Federal Government had no business ending slavery in the USA, period. They believe that negroes are culturally and intellectually inferior and deserve to be kept in bondage “for their own good”, and naturally for the benefit of their white overlords.

Get one of them alone, drunk and off-camera and they will not hesitate to tell you this.

399 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:57:33am
Two years ago, David Gross, then an NRA board member, confided to me that a substantial number of the group’s 1 million Life Members are, well, dead. “There just isn’t that much incentive to go find out when someone passes away,” Gross explained. “Not when the cost of maintaining (a dead member) is minimal and when they add to your membership list.”

ALSO PAGED

400 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:58:08am

re: #395 Stephen T.

There is a part of me that wonders if the “better under slavery” language might also be a way of softening up people for a return to legal chattel slavery, you know where your food and shelter were provided for you if you worked for someone for life with no chance of ever leaving? No more living paycheck to paycheck, right?

OR Indentured Servitude.

401 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 8:58:48am

re: #399 FemNaziBitch

And many are lapsed memberships, left over from free memberships that they give away.

Nonetheless, they have the power to strike the Fear of God into a lot of politicians.

402 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:58:57am

re: #396 ObserverArt

Stupid arrogance right there. They should have those guns taken away for being careless.

Yeah…gun control. Controlling guns from someone that should know better. An example to lawful gun owners.

Technically, I think that does fall under the realm of federal gun crime. I don’t have time to look-it-up right now. DF would know.

403 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 8:59:23am

re: #401 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And many are lapsed memberships, left over from free memberships that they give away.

Nonetheless, they have the power to strike the Fear of God into a lot of politicians.

FOLLOW THE MONEY

404 Lidane  Apr 26, 2014 8:59:36am
405 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:00:58am

re: #404 Lidane

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Puddy!

406 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 26, 2014 9:01:11am

re: #400 FemNaziBitch

OR Indentured Servitude.

What makes wage slaves? Wages! I want you to be free!!!

-Groucho Marx

407 Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2014 9:02:37am

re: #400 FemNaziBitch

OR Indentured Servitude.

We’re already heading there at warp speed.

Just one example.

Meet The Real Amazon Drones”

408 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:02:43am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What makes wage slaves? Wages! I want you to be free!!!

-Groucho Marx

6 for .25.

yeah that sounds about right. With the gubernet subsidizing the rest.

409 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 9:06:47am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

{{{JAH}}}

I hope you’re able to bury him as he wanted. Do you happen to have a paypal account?

410 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:07:44am

Books listened to in the last week or so:

A Constellation of Vital Phenomena -Sad, very sad tale of Chechnya.

The Blazing World —TOTALLY enjoyed this audiobook.

The Death of Bunny Munro —not yet finished, very strange.

Throne of the Crescent Moon — FUN STUFF —really good writing —it’s my second listen and it was as good as the first if not better.

411 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:08:10am

re: #409 wrenchwench

{{{JAH}}}

I hope you’re able to bury him as he wanted. Do you happen to have a paypal account?

good question!

412 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:09:25am
413 Snarknado!  Apr 26, 2014 9:11:49am

re: #409 wrenchwench

{{{JAH}}}

I hope you’re able to bury him as he wanted. Do you happen to have a paypal account?

No account needed, just an email address (and a bank account, of course, so the recipient can “download” funds).

414 Lidane  Apr 26, 2014 9:13:55am

re: #400 FemNaziBitch

OR Indentured Servitude.

Imagine a legal indenture system in place where working for someone for a couple of years with clearly defined rules and protections ended with crippling student loan debts being paid in full. I’m not so sure that people would be against it. It’s scary, but true.

Hell, I’m surprised corporations don’t do this already. Pay someone a living wage so they can feed, clothe and shelter themselves, then at the end, pay their loans off. It would be cheaper for the companies involved, since they’d be guaranteed employee loyalty for that amount of time.

415 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:15:35am

I have no idea about the article, but I love the picture!!!

416 Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2014 9:16:30am
417 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 9:20:45am

Some people think twitter is irrelevant. Others are scared to death of it.

418 Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2014 9:23:36am

Article shedding light on the rip off to taxpayers with our laughably low grazing fees.

Federal Grazing Program in Bundy Dispute Rips-Off Taxpayers, Wild Horses

Across the west, the BLM and U.S. Forest Service manage 13.3 million AUMs (Animal Unit Months) on 250 million acres of public land. One month of grazing one cow/calf combination or five sheep (the definition of an AUM) costs $1.35—a fee that’s substantially below the present-day cost of $16-$20 per month to graze livestock on private land (BLM evidence of this disparity is noted here.) The direct loss to taxpayers, according to Wild Earth Guardians’ interpretation of GAO data, is huge: at least $123 million a year. Indirect but related costs push the total to as much as $1 billion, all to produce less than 3% of the nation’s beef supply.

419 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 9:24:52am
420 Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2014 9:26:36am

re: #419 NJDhockeyfan

Robin? He’s around here somewhere…

421 sagehen  Apr 26, 2014 9:26:54am

re: #279 goddamnedfrank

Amazing. They should give out a Nobel Prize for oblivious tardfuckery, to truly acknowledge the priceless contribution these rich old white clowns are making to our society.

Fucker is lucky enough to own a basketball team and he’s bitching about his inappropriately young half-black trophy girlfriend bringing Magic Johnson to his games because he’s black.

Doesn’t care if she sleeps with black guys, because let’s be honest, the odds of him satisfying her in that department are dubious at best, but being seen or photographed walking with black people is a bridge too far.

Isn’t Magic Johnson the most popular basketball player anywhere ever? (I know for sure he’s the most popular basketball player in Los Angeles.) The Clippers just lost a bunch of high-price season-ticket customers, a bunch of merchandise sales, they lost whatever free agents they were hoping to sign next year, next time they need a coach their options will be limited…

422 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 9:28:31am

re: #420 Amory Blaine

Robin? He’s around here somewhere…

Who!?!?!

(sorry ,, too easy!!)

423 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 9:35:10am

re: #418 Amory Blaine

Article shedding light on the rip off to taxpayers with our laughably low grazing fees.

Federal Grazing Program in Bundy Dispute Rips-Off Taxpayers, Wild Horses

There’s an awful lot of bullshit in that article.

If there is an invasive species, here, it’s cattle and sheep. Wild horses, as early fossils show, originated here—and they’re a lot better suited to restoring the landscape than the cowboys and federal grazing program that’s looking to get rid of them—with the help of unwitting but fleeced taxpayers.

Pretending horses will help the ecosystem is the same harebrained logic the cattle runners use.

There are too many animals grazing on public lands. Raise the fees for cattle and sheep, and continue to remove horses and protect water sources. Let the native species recover, including wolves.

424 bubba zanetti  Apr 26, 2014 9:37:56am

re: #423 wrenchwench

Cosmic convergence: grazing allotments meets bicycles:

Mutton Master

425 Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2014 9:39:11am

re: #423 wrenchwench

True, but that’s another argument. The numbers hold. Cattle ranchers are underpaying and there needs to be a revision in the numbers.

426 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 9:42:02am

re: #424 bubba zanetti

Cosmic convergence: grazing allotments meets bicycles:

Mutton Master

That’s wonderful, thank you!

I have a customer whose kids used to run their 4-H sheep with bicycles. They grew up left home or they’d still be doing it.

427 Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2014 9:42:06am

With all the attention Bundy has brought, his neighbors won’t be happy if higher fees are the end result.

428 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 9:42:49am

re: #425 Amory Blaine

True, but that’s another argument. The numbers hold. Cattle ranchers are underpaying and there needs to be a revision in the numbers.

No disagreement there.

429 Mattand  Apr 26, 2014 9:46:06am

Just checking in after watching a bunch of 5 year olds play T ball.

“You go to a Republican event and it’s all white people—not because we’re excluding anybody, but because we just haven’t done a good enough job encouraging people to come into our party.”

If by “we just haven’t done a good enough job encouraging people to come into our party”, you mean “constantly playing fears about ‘those people’”, well, yeah; spot on.

430 Mattand  Apr 26, 2014 9:47:50am

re: #427 Amory Blaine

With all the attention Bundy has brought, his neighbors won’t be happy if higher fees are the end result.

What’s the deal with his neighbors? Is this one of those stretches of country where your closet neighbor is 30 miles away?

There seems to have been a pronounced lack of comment from people in the area, pro or con. I wonder if they’re just trying to avoid getting dragged into this racist clown’s freak show as much as possible.

431 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:48:26am

re: #429 Mattand

Just checking in after watching a bunch of 5 year olds play T ball.

If by “we just haven’t done a good enough job encouraging people to come into our party”, you mean “constantly playing fears about ‘those people’”, well, yeah; spot on.

Yeah, just as soon as they can brainwash all the woman and brown people that they want to be white men, they’ll get full house.

//

432 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 9:52:13am

re: #430 Mattand

What’s the deal with his neighbors? Is this one of those stretches of country where your closet neighbor is 30 miles away?

There seems to have been a pronounced lack of comment from people in the area, pro or con. I wonder if they’re just trying to avoid getting dragged into this racist clown’s freak show as much as possible.

Maddow had the district’s congressman on her show. He’s the first black congressman from Nevada. He said the people who live in the area are not happy, especially about all the gun-totin’ going on. He was speaking about people who live in Bunkerville, I believe, and not necessarily fellow ranchers. Somebody interviewed a pissed off Nevada rancher, but I don’t remember where I saw that.

433 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 9:54:15am

Your Tax Dollars?

World Vision
US may describe itself as a secular/plural/multicultural nation but almost 20% of Government funding to faith-based organizations have gone to international NGOs which are all Christian. World Vision alone has an annual budget of $1.7 billion (International Religious NGOs at The United Nations: A Study of a Group of Religious Organizations).
The final object of two Abrahamic religions i.e. Christianity and Islam, is world conquest through religion. Thus they aim to spread their religion worldwide and to convert masses to their beliefs and aligning with development when the populations of the Third World are in need of money and other essentials. It provides the perfect alibi especially when Third World Governments are unable to cater to the needs of all the populace and are also silenced into non-action when these organizations construct or expand their religious facilities (legal and illegal).
7 out of top 10 contributing nations to NGOs are predominantly Roman Catholic. Austria, France, Luxembourg and the Netherlands are the top donors.

434 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 10:00:49am
435 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 10:05:06am

re: #432 wrenchwench

Maddow had the district’s congressman on her show. He’s the first black congressman from Nevada. He said the people who live in the area are not happy, especially about all the gun-totin’ going on. He was speaking about people who live in Bunkerville, I believe, and not necessarily fellow ranchers. Somebody interviewed a pissed off Nevada rancher, but I don’t remember where I saw that.

Did I hear someone on Maddow say the militia types are running check points out on the highway, and stopping people in town? I would think that has locals a bit disturbed. I know having a bunch of wanna-be heroes with guns I don’t know running around would piss me off. WTF???

And the local police and sheriffs are okay with this?

436 Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2014 10:06:49am

re: #434 NJDhockeyfan

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Ugly little spud, isn’t he?

437 darthstar  Apr 26, 2014 10:07:52am
438 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 10:08:34am

re: #435 ObserverArt

Did I hear someone on Maddow say the militia types are running check points out on the highway, and stopping people in town? I would think that has locals a bit disturbed. I know having a bunch of wanna-be heroes with guns I don’t know would piss me off. WTF???

And the local police and sheriffs are okay with this?

I didn’t hear about that. The Oathkeepers want to replace the sheriff of that county with one of their own, meaning the current guy isn’t one. I doubt there’s much law enforcement besides county sheriffs in Bunkerville.

439 Romantic Heretic  Apr 26, 2014 10:13:06am

re: #385 Lidane

It’s not fear. It’s a long-standing desire for a society just like Somalia’s. A lot of the libertarian cranks hold Somalia up as a paradise, since there’s no centralized government, no gun control, etc. They WANT us to devolve into anarchy.

Because they suffer from ‘Meanest Son Of A Bitch In The Valley’ syndrome.

They know that in such a society thanks to their gunz they will never be victims, and they’ll be able to victimize others at will.

It’s pretty much pure sociopathy.

440 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 10:15:26am

re: #439 Romantic Heretic

Because they suffer from ‘Meanest Son Of A Bitch In The Valley’ syndrome.

They know that in such a society thanks to their gunz they will never be victims, and they’ll be able to victimize others at will.

It’s pretty much pure sociopathy.

complete idiocy or inability to fathom what living that kind of life is really like.

There is a reason we have the rule of law …

441 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 10:16:14am

Old, but interesting.

442 Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2014 10:17:10am

re: #439 Romantic Heretic

Because they suffer from ‘Meanest Son Of A Bitch In The Valley’ syndrome.

They know that in such a society thanks to their gunz they will never be victims, and they’ll be able to victimize others at will.

It’s pretty much pure sociopathy.

Indeed, they live in a fantasy world where they could beat the shit out of the guy who annoyed them in the supermarket checkout line without worry of legal consequences. Or that they could scare off bill collectors with their guns and not worry that the sheriff’s gonna kick down their door and haul them off.

443 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 10:18:54am

re: #442 Targetpractice

Indeed, they live in a fantasy world where they could beat the shit out of the guy who annoyed them in the supermarket checkout line without worry of legal consequences. Or that they could scare off bill collectors with their guns and not worry that the sheriff’s gonna kick down their door and haul them off.

You can tell the people who didn’t grow-up in Detroit.

444 ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2014 10:19:04am

re: #440 FemNaziBitch

complete idiocy or inability to fathom what living that kind of life is really like.

There is a reason we have the rule of law …

Problem being, there no longer seems to be a clear definition of what rule of law means. Everyone is fudging, and seemingly the conservative law and order types are reading it all their way.

445 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 10:20:22am

re: #444 ObserverArt

Problem being, there no longer seems to be a clear definition of what rule of law means. Everyone is fudging, and seemingly the conservative law and order types are reading it all their way.

Yes, SYG is making for some interesting interpretations. Yet, we still seem to respect the system enough to use it to fight it out.

I’d rather we do that than the alternative.

446 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 10:21:07am

re: #444 ObserverArt

Problem being, there no longer seems to be a clear definition of what rule of law means. Everyone is fudging, and seemingly the conservative law and order types are reading it all their way.

Needless to say, I haven’t yet heard of any reports of people being disappeared.

447 FemNaziBitch  Apr 26, 2014 10:27:32am

bbl

448 Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2014 10:29:18am

re: #446 FemNaziBitch

Needless to say, I haven’t yet heard of any reports of people being disappeared.

THAT’S JUST WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE!

449 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 10:30:42am

Tymoshenko calls for NATO membership
I suppose by the time the paper work gets finalized Putin will have taken what we wants anyways. No honor for hashtag

450 thedopefishlives  Apr 26, 2014 10:31:22am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Tymoshenko calls for NATO membership
I suppose by the time the paper work gets finalized Putin will have taken what we wants anyways. No honor for hashtag

I’m going to start calling you Eeyore Trout. Seriously, this defeatism is getting ridiculous.

451 Romantic Heretic  Apr 26, 2014 10:31:27am

re: #446 FemNaziBitch

Needless to say, I haven’t yet heard of any reports of people being disappeared.

Yet. I suspect some states like Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana etc. might start in the near future. They’ve done it before after all.

452 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 10:34:26am

The UK’s Muslim outreach to keep jihadists from travelling to Syria is going as expected
Muslim parents fear British police anti-terror plan

The latest reported death of a Briton from Syria is 18-year old Abdullah Deghayes, who died earlier this month.

His father, Abu Bakr, knew of his death through Facebook. Two of his other sons - Amer, 20, and Jaafar, 16, who is thought to be the youngest British rebel - are still in Syria. Their parents did not give them consent to go to Syria and were unable to convince them to come back.

However, this new police strategy is seen by Abu Bakr and some other Muslims as a way of spying on their children.

The prolonged Syria conflict has increasingly worried security chiefs who think hundreds of people have gone from UK to fight in Syria. Police have previously warned that anyone travelling to Syria should expect to be scrutinised while the UK government has condemned the Assad regime, which is accused of atrocities.

453 Varek Raith  Apr 26, 2014 10:37:19am

*Starts new Minecraft worlds, spawns at the bottom of an ocean*

454 Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2014 10:38:01am

re: #453 Varek Raith

*Starts new Minecraft worlds, spawns at the bottom of an ocean*

First World Minecraft problems.

//

455 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 10:39:58am
456 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 10:43:39am

Dear customer

If you hand me off a standard def TV signal, ask me to upconvert it to a Hi Def TV signal, please do NOT call complaining about the poor video quality. When you ask us to polish a turd, it’s just a shiny turd!!

457 thedopefishlives  Apr 26, 2014 10:45:33am

re: #456 sattv4u2

Dear customer

If you hand me off a standard def TV signal, ask me to upconvert it to a Hi Def TV signal, please do NOT call complaining about the poor video quality. When you polish a turd, it’s just a shiny turd!!

I don’t think the customer understood what he was asking for. And of course, there’s no way to explain it to them in any way that makes sense to a noob.

458 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 10:46:31am

Yeah ,,, I think i’ll stick with domestic travel for the time being!!!

Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has called in an interview for militants to kidnap Westerners, especially Americans, to exchange them for jihadist captives
news.yahoo.com

459 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 10:47:30am

re: #457 thedopefishlives

I don’t think the customer understood what he was asking for. And of course, there’s no way to explain it to them in any way that makes sense to a noob.

Sadly, they do know what they are asking for (we’re requested to do it all the time)

What they don’t understand is that it doesn’t HIDE the imperfections, it ENHANCES them

460 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 10:52:18am

Abbas further clarifies the reports that the new unity government will “recognize” Israel

We will never recognise Israel’s religious identity: Palestinian president

Hamas salutes positive speech by Palestinian president

461 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 10:56:02am

re: #458 sattv4u2

Yeah ,,, I think i’ll stick with domestic travel for the time being!!!

Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has called in an interview for militants to kidnap Westerners, especially Americans, to exchange them for jihadist captives
news.yahoo.com

Somebody needs a drone visit

462 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 10:56:22am

re: #460 Killgore Trout

Abbas further clarifies the reports that the new unity government will “recognize” Israel

We will never recognise Israel’s religious identity: Palestinian president

Under the agreement, Abbas would head an independent government of technocrats, to be formed within five weeks. That new interim administration would be charged with holding parliamentary and presidential elections within six months of taking office

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in those meetings!

463 Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2014 10:56:35am

re: #459 sattv4u2

Sadly, they do know what they are asking for (we’re requested to do it all the time)

What they don’t understand is that it doesn’t HIDE the imperfections, it ENHANCES them

It’s like I told my sister awhile back, the higher definition TVs are getting to the point where the smallest imperfections get distracting. Kinda hard to pay attention to the action on the screen when you can practically count an actor’s skin pores during close-ups.

464 bluebonnetbunny  Apr 26, 2014 10:57:34am

re: #332 FemNaziBitch

It could be because camels tend to spit a lot. They also have impressive range and throw-weight. That’s one of the seldom mentioned risks of getting too close to them. I don’t think I want to know about the other possibilities.

465 Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2014 10:59:20am

Enhancing the point of the worst Chief Justice of the SC in memory that racism is no longer of concern in the US,

LA Clippers Owner Donald Sterling’s Racist Rant Caught On Tape: Report

Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling told his girlfriend that he doesn’t want her to bring black people to his games or post pictures with black people on Instagram, according to audio obtained by TMZ.

The tape begins in the middle of an argument between Sterling and his girlfriend, V. Stiviano. Sterling appears to be upset that Stiviano, who is black and Mexican, has been posting photos to Instagram of herself with black people — in particular, with Magic Johnson.

“It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you’re associating with black people,” he is heard saying. “Do you have to?”

Proving once again that in White America that the only racism is against white christians.

huffingtonpost.com

466 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 11:01:27am

re: #458 sattv4u2

Yeah ,,, I think i’ll stick with domestic travel for the time being!!!

Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has called in an interview for militants to kidnap Westerners, especially Americans, to exchange them for jihadist captives
news.yahoo.com

Ah, this explains it. JIhad for fun and profit
France denies it paid ransom for Syria reporters

Focus, a German magazine, published on its website a report that France paid 18 million dollars for their release, citing NATO sources in Brussels.

Ka-ching!

467 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 11:02:26am

re: #466 Killgore Trout

Ah, this explains it. JIhad for fun and profit
France denies it paid ransom for Syria reporters

Ka-ching!

{sigh}

468 wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2014 11:02:50am

By the way, this:

103 wrenchwench 4/25/2014 1:00:57 pm PDT

In other news, a guy just came by with his full-suspension bike that has a creaking noise somewhere, which he refers to as ‘obviously the bottom bracket.’ The other shop took it apart and put it back together, but that didn’t fix it, but still it’s obviously the bottom bracket. No, couldn’t be one of those dozen pivot points in the vicinity, nor a chainring bolt nor pedal. No. It’s ‘obviously’ the bottom bracket. Because he can feel it in his feet.

it was the bottom bracket.

469 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Apr 26, 2014 11:04:16am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Tymoshenko calls for NATO membership
I suppose by the time the paper work gets finalized Putin will have taken what we wants anyways. No honor for hashtag

You’re real good at predictions.

littlegreenfootballs.com

That was one where you forgot to cover your ass with ‘I suppose’ or ‘he might’ or one of the other weasel words you normally use so that you can talk and talk without actually ever taking a real position. When you do take a position, of course, you’re almost always wrong.

470 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 11:06:22am

Obama: Our new sanctions won’t make Putin honor hashtag
Obama: Putin ‘Not a Stupid Man’ But Unlikely to Cave to Sanctions

471 Killgore Trout  Apr 26, 2014 11:07:08am

re: #467 sattv4u2

{sigh}

18 million is quite a payday

472 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 26, 2014 11:11:45am
473 sattv4u2  Apr 26, 2014 11:14:06am

re: #471 Killgore Trout

18 million is quite a payday

yeah, but the new call is to trade for prisoners

They must be running low on #2’s !!!!!

474 JustMark  Apr 26, 2014 11:24:41am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

So, so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family.

475 klys  Apr 26, 2014 12:28:37pm

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

{{JAH}}

I have done a little bit of looking for you, in case you see this.

Here is information about consumer rights dealing with funerals in NC; your grandson may be eligible to get a small death benefit from Social Security for his father. It also has information about doing a burial on private property.

Check with the county where he was residing; it appears that NC did have support for indigent burial as recently as 2009, but of course that’s questionable under the current budgetary climates. Still, it doesn’t hurt to look and ask.

This article may also have some useful tips.

Keeping you and your family in the thoughts here at Casa klys, and I hope you can find comfort and peace in time.

476 CuriousLurker  Apr 26, 2014 12:59:20pm

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I’m so sorry. {{{{{{{{JAH}}}}}}}}

477 urbanmeemaw  Apr 26, 2014 1:58:37pm

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

My deepest condolences and prayers for you and your family.

478 Gus  Apr 26, 2014 8:00:30pm

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

I’m so sorry to hear this {{{{JAH.}}}}

Please accept my condolences.

479 socrets  Apr 26, 2014 9:12:36pm

In other news, you find cosplayers at a cosplay convention.

480 Fineday  Apr 26, 2014 9:53:43pm

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

481 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 27, 2014 6:44:42am

Republican “all-white”-ism isn’t by chance.

It’s by design.

482 EmmaAnne  Apr 27, 2014 5:40:39pm

◽

483 EmmaAnne  Apr 27, 2014 5:41:41pm

♈

484 EmmaAnne  Apr 27, 2014 5:42:16pm

✨


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